Eve Online general /eog/

>tfw unironically want to try mining and industry

>>168494021
Mining no, industry yes

>>168494021

Not much point in mining these days; unless you might have access to nullsec ore.

Now that they changed refining, a lot of it goes to waste during processing.

what battleship is best for babby's first battleship (skill wise)?

>>168494484
Vexor

>try to login after long time to train skills
>stuck at character screen, not text, only one character is shown, cant click anything

Great

>>168494484
Worm

Kick PLA now, jesus christ.

>>168494475
Well i might get invited into some null operated corporation where i can mine...or not, depends if the guy who i messaged is okay with being memed or not. Too bad i have barelly any skills in industry (and it takes a lot of time to learn it right?).

>>168494598
>>168494530
T-thanks
I just wanted to try on something bigger

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>>168493934
>all that nigmatar

>>168495061
Do you mean pvp or pve? If pve and you like me just want to fly "a real big thing" then...i mean pretty much all of them are fine: raven, maelstorm, apoc, megathron\hyperion (domi if you want to be afk) are all good enough choices.

I was always wondering:

Do wormholers (wh corps) never leave w-space?
Or do they all have alts inside to roll entrances for main?

I can't imagine people rolling entrances for other people "on demand", and never leaving w-space sounds autistic as fuck.

Which one is it?

>>168496127
I bet they live in them all the time except for freighter hauling in and out and only leave if someone decides to war them to take over WH.

>>168496127
They'll often look for fun in kspace because whspace is largely dead. In particular, a lot of groups are gravitating toward nullsec statics so they can have their fun there. Usual order of business is to come into kspace and dick around for a few hours and then just come home via the same connection, so nobody needs to roll to eachother connections. That said, people sometimes log in kspace so you do them the courtesy of getting an entrance for them. Of course, anybody who isn't shit will have their own backup scanning alts in their home too.

>>168496450
Figured that was the case.

Thanks Anon.

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>Added missing Hecate SKIN to the Guardian's Gala loot drops.

>>168497815
>just as I sold my gala ship
Fuck it. I'll buy it off the market. 35m should be enough nearing the end of event, right?

Give me a good Naga fit

>good
>naga
pick one

What sort of ships are good for running these new sites? Is it the usual Gila sort of sites?

>>168498456
Machariel.

>>168494484
Maelstrom into Machariel

>>168495031
Getting into industry doesn't take a lot SP. You can train a basic research and production alt in a couple days and start producing rigs.

>>168498802
Can I fit blasters?

>>168498456
Drones and missiles are awful for this. Fly some blaster or projectile ship with a web and maybe a sensor booster or two.

>>168498802
this, polarized AC Machariel with hyperspacials worked pretty well when I was farming gala sites yesterday.

>>168498289
If I picked a good ship and asked for a good fit it wouldn't be a challenge

>>168498829
Maybe you can, post it here if you do it.

Just use any cruiser+ ship, should be fine. I never saw any site myself but people say it's easy as fuck and you can do them on any class of ship so all you want is maximum damage with maximum warp speed, mach is better than others at this.

>>168499032
Link your mach fit plox

assault frig worth it if I live in a nullblob?

>>168499369
That actually sounds like a good plan. Report back on success.

>>168499312
http://pastebin.com/L6ZRUxnM

>>168499948
How much dps is this thing?

>>168499948
Ty

>>168500025
1450ish unheated. A normal PVP setup would probably do fine too. Most people I ran into were flying HML Tengus or random drone boats. Warp to site at 50, pop frigs, approach bunker for 1-2 MWD cycles while you kill the cruisers then fly towards the BC and loot.

>>168499049
I suppose everyone would call you a shitter for asking too.

>>168490209
Can always join Horde desu

>>168493934
>Izana
>Tsugumori

I like you.

>>168501012
is a destroyer workable with gala sites

>needing a special mach fit to run event sites

why are highsec fags so retarded

>>168501483
Not that Anon but I did it in an Algos.
Won't recommend - low dps makes it last longer than it should and everyone will steal the BC kill from you.

It's doable if you can't fly anything else, but if you can - do it in a cruiser.

>>168501483
I did one in a thrasher on an alpha character. It took a little while though.

>>168501607
>can't afford a cheap as fuck t2 fit
How is your null pvp going? Need some money for a shutle?

>>168501608
I'll try it with a Hecate

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>strat paps

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>in alliance without strat paps
>alliance chat is just freeloading shitters being smug about freeloading
>join fleets and no one ever notices

>in a really big alliance, but I only ever play with my small group of friends doing small gang shit
feels good man. Hopefully SRP is back soon.

>>168503096
Sounds good to me.

>>168501927
>highsec
>isk

choose one

>>168503528
>he doesn't know

>scan down a wormhole
>immediately warp there
>it's not there
>the scan list still shows it should be there
>there wasn't anyone in local the entire time
This happens to me all the fucking time. Why.

>>168503765
the sig disappears maybe 20 seconds after the wormhole

you can also land on grid with a wormhole and press jump, and then be told that it doesn't exist, because that can disappear a little delayed too

>>168503765
Is the signature on grid, literally 500m away and you can approach it?
If yes - the site hasn't spawned yet due to lag. Warp out, wait a while and warp back in.

>>168503765
You got cucked by WINGSPAN. They camp holes that are close to hitting mass limit, wait until someone warps in and collapse it before you land. Then they cloak and make fun of you.

>tfw got so annoyed by exploration so just jump from gate to gate in nulls
>exit is ofc camped
>could have exited it very easily but decided "im just gonna leave nulls either way, fuck this"
>lost ship, but i think guy decided leave my pod (and my 500m implants in it)
It's alright, fuck exploration. I'd extract it but i don't care that much...although it IS month+ of SP...

>cnr

>>168498238
search zkillboard my man

>>168504023
cuckspan are literally brain dead, if you get cucked by them it's your fault

>attack battlecruisers
>2017

enjoy doing less dps than combat battlecruisers and with less tank, no tracking and no mjd

>>168505114
oracle works well though

>>168505114
>i have no idea what im talking about: the post

>>168505210
>>168505271
>m-muh scorch!

>>168505114
>Suicide ganking in a hurricane

>Suicide ganking

>open eveboard
>open all my characters
>yep, skills are still training
Make it faster reee.

>>168505114
Attack battlecruiser s do more damage though

>oracle is the only ABC

>>168494484
Hyperion, Dominic, maelstrom, raven

>>168505617
Why aren't you using EVEMon?

>>168505883
so

>any of them

>>168505897
can't use evemon at work, and besides i have like 40+ skills at all times, im not sure why i even check it.

>>168494312
But if no one mines, where will everyone get the ore for industy?

>>168506685
Human's don't mine, only bots and chinese.

>>168505617
you are subbed right?
eveboard will show you as still training even if tou ran out of time

>>168507957
>subbed
nobody is subbed

>>168504381
I think you're just no very good at it anon

>>168508194
you know what I mean

>>168508194
w-what?
I-I am....

>>168508208
What do you even mean by this?

>>168504381
listen bud I made enough money in month to get plex and 2 skill injectors by exploring and I'm not even a vet, I literally started playing last month. AND I had time to join a low sec corp and roam around killing stuff and exploding. No, I don't play 24/7. You are just incompetent. I bet you never achieved anything worthwhile in your life and thought you can do something in Eve, but this game won't just handle everything to you on a silver platter like WoW. If you don't even enjoy this game why are you trying to play it? Nothing will change if you get a BS or a carrier. Just leave and go fap and cry yourself to sleep. All the possibilities to do something with your life are gone. You will not find redemption in this game. Accept you are a failure and continue leeching. Or admit you lost at life and kill yourself, this would would be better without you.

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>>168508889

>>168508889
That actually sounds like a good plan. Report back on success.

>>168508294
The main reason why people get fed up with exploration is because they don't know where to look, end up going to either depleted nullsec like stain or wormholes with highsec connections, decide that because they aren't getting shit that must mean exploration is shit, and leave.

It's fine with me by the way. Please don't explore, go do your ratting or something.

>>168509136
Yea i will go to ratting cos explorations sucks because it's so rare that you actually do something. Im sure that me constantly jumping through nulls for 4 days 4hours a day and getting 70m is perfectly fine amount of money and i just needed to wait untill i get lucky and get 5 billions from a single container.

>don't know where to look
:meme seal of approval:

>>168509136
>Tfw comfy as fuck null region in sansha space

>Wake up at 1pm
>"Lets do a little explo"
>Clear out some pockets, seems like it's been a while since someone has been here
>645m in cargo
>Check time 5pm

This isn't the norm, but it really isn't that hard to make 80m+/h doing exploration.

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>people still fall for exploration meme

>>168509427
That's not what proper exploration looks like. Proper exploration is where you only fit a relic analyzer and go to the area where you know you'll definitely find at least one or two relic sites on average per system.

If you're not willing to *explore* and find such an area, then that's just better for me. Have fun ratting.

>>168509569
>sites spawn randomly everywhere
>people jump and explore everywhere
>"just go in a system where you know you will get 200m from single site, it's not that difficult"

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>>168509684
>I can't do it so others can't too

>>168509684
First line is right. Second isn't. You're welcome.

I don't even mind telling you this because you're too stubborn to become my competition.

>200m from a single site
No such system, it's random, and I never count on it. When it happens I could say that my isk/h is much higher than the regular 70m or so, but that would be dishonest.

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>>168509526
>run 4/10
>takes 5 minutes
>make 300 mil

>>168511347
You forgot to mention that makes it 6 bil / hour :^)

>>168511448
and it's free isk

>>168511561
Only if you fly >Amarr battleship with afterburner and 2 cap rechargers.

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>>168511823
>paying for ammo

>>168511561
Then it makes infinite isk/h

>>168512307
That's right

Every time you shoot a laser? You just made infinite virtual isk and then wasted it when the laser fired you moron why did you do that

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Is there a lore reason that explains how civilian weapons have infinite ammo?

>>168512942
Yes. A capsuleer can afford to squeeze infinite civilians into the weapon feed.

>>168512942
The description panel of "Show info".

>>168512942
Doesn't it say in the description that it uses particles from space around the ship?

Daily reminder that the moros is worse than the nag in every way

>>168513194
I don't remember you reminding me about this yesterday. You'll need to do better than that.

moros has longer lock range

>>168506031
Don't pic anything amarr

>>168513194
But why?

>>168513076
>>168513097
Oh, okay. I guess I should've read the description. Thanks.

>>168513271
I'll. Make up. For yesterday

Second daily reminder for yesterday's absence that the moros is worse than the nag in every way

>>168513342
they are not more skill intensive

>>168513356
Because ccp is really bad at balance

The capital focus group even pointed out weeks before hand that the moros has no benefit to it over the nag and ccp ignored them

>>168513451
Not good enough, two daily reminders aren't daily anymore.

Guys, lately generals have been getting productive. Can /dog/ say the same? What's the last productive thing this place has done?

>>168514480
Reminded everyone that the moros is worse than the nag in every way.

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>>168514480
Made dogs great again.

>>168514480
free isk

>>168514480
That actually sounds like a good plan. Report back on success.

Low sec is actually the most cancerous thing in this game.

>>168515203
why

>>168515830
One of the reasons is because you can fly with full set of HG Snakes and not worry about losing them. In null sec you might end up in a bubble, for example, but in low sec there is literally nothing that can stop you if you aren't retarded.

where do i see how many days of omega status i have left

>>168516254
Bubbles are almost impossible to hit if you're careful

>>168516259
Log into you account on CCP's website

>>168516382
He means sabre bubbles

>>168516254
this is a good point and I agree. smartbombs aren't a good solution because they're only for blobs or dedicated bombing ships. I can't on my own engage a guy, somehow win even though he has snakes, and then kill his snakes. so we end up with the current shit: 95% of people getting their pods out because they're all using implant cancer

>>168516416
says my next billing date is in 62 days, i guess that's it though i didn't know i had that much time

also i hope it's not literally a billing date because i didn't agree to any such thing

>>168514602
>>168514921
>>168514959
>>168515020
pathetic

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>>168517993

>>168513458
Yes they are, they need way better cap skills than any other while still running things like reps and hardeners

>>168518341
you only need power grid management 1 and capacitor systems operation 1 to use a heavy electrochemical

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>>168517993

What corp should I apply for if I'm more or less completely new to the idea of being in a corp but have 7 million sp from solo play

>>168519487
go on reddit and find some furries that play eve
or join brave

>>168519698
I'm not a furry though

>>168518535
>needs to chug mana potions on cooldown to not OOM

>>168519487
Pandemic Horde. Even though they're focused on helping new players, they don't mind anyone, even if you played EVE for years. And unless you're on their list of banned players, you can join and leave any time.

>>168519487
ph, karmafleet, wangspin

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>>168519890

I don't have cyno alt, should i train JF?

Don't know for what reason, just thinking about what filler skills to put on alt.

>>168521076
Cyno, research, PI, invention, manufacturing, trading, scouting, hauling and maybe reactions.

>>168518535
>hey just burn tons of ammo and all end loads of cap

Nah there's a reason why no one uses t1 amarr battleships is because they're shit in the face of things like the hyperion or Megathron

>>168521483
no, it's because they're t1 battleships, which are basically all shit because of power creep, capitals and cheap pirate bs

>>168521483
The Armageddon is good.

what's the meta on energy turrets?
are beam lasers any good compared to pulse lasers?

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>what's the meta

>>168522260
Lasers have always been bad, go with artillery, on a mach preferably.

>>168522438
what if I want to fly amarr?
inb4 amarr memes

>>168522535
>>168522535
>what if I want to fly amarr?

then enjoy no cap

>>168522535
pulses are better because scorch gives all the range you will ever need and beams are unbalanced (in a bad way) pieces of shit.

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>>168511347
>run 9/10, 8/10 and 7/10 inside a sansha wormhole
>takes 40min
>make 200mil

>>168523167
stop posting, your opinions are wrong

>>168523167
is conflagration any good? it looks like you loose a shitload of tracking with it

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>joining wangspin

>>168523260
what's a sansha wormhole?

>>168523594
a bad meme

>>168521703
No one used the amarr laser battleships even when they were introduced

>>168523289
>opinions
>wrong
This is not how it works.

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r8 my troll fit

>>168524203
it's my opinion that that is how it works

>>168524203
Don't care about the lasers, but this opinion is wrong.

>>168523665
Kil2 did.

>>168524256
But won't people just warp away?

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>>168524519

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>Try to warn EE leadership that Hydro0 will rob them blind if the alliance shows signs of weakness
>Alliance starting to fail
>Hydro loses a 1.2bil nightmare and drops alliance

Gee, I wonder what happened.

>want to join a corp
>"can you give your API?"
W-what should i do?

>>168525128
Give them your api if you want to join.

>>168523594
There's a single shattered wormhole system that spawns Sansha rats instead of sleepers

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>dronelands

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Me: "I really shouldn't spend frivolously and buy the 3 plex for my bday"

My mind: Buy 6

>>168525853
upvoted xdddd

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>buying PLEX with money

>>168525979
>buying plex with many more hours of your life grinding

>buying plex for free

>>168524621

>EE

https://soundcloud.com/user-315468926/ee-1

*Nod's head Respectfully*

>he can't make plex without grind

>he can't grind without plex

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>>168526486

>>168526486

That's ~$450 to fly a fucking Tengo lmao

>>168525201
Do i restrict it or what? Im afraid they are going to literally check everything.

>>168526807
>Do i restrict it

I've never had to give a corp an API key before. But i would just make it a limited duration one that granted whatever access you're comfortable with them seeing. If it's not good enough for them I would assume they would tell you what they want.

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>>168526486

>>168527227
they reject those, every request for an api demands it to be indefinite and to have a specific access mask that they ask for

>>168527376
>indefinite

not always

>>168527989
I would assume always, I'd never risk not having access to my members api

>>168526807
Almost all corps want an unrestricted API so that they can scan through it with Jackknife or something similar to see if you're a spy. Most also want it to have no expiration, but there's nothing stopping you from deleting it when you get in and they almost certainly won't notice when you do.

>>168524583
I'd fit a 10mn afterburner so you get some power grid back maybe you can run heavy beams

>>168526807
>oki doki anon, we just need your full api for every alt and account you have and you must join with them and move to our system.

>>168528418
There's nothing wrong with this

>>168528051
maybe you'd attract better people if you were less gestapo about things. I think all this api shit is pretty bad for eve

>>168528605
No this shit is great for eve. The intermingling of the data is super useful for all sorts of shit

Without it it'd be impossible to detect spies of any kind. It's already stupidly easy to create and inject spies into other corps

There's nothing wrong with full api access

>>168528525
I won't fall for your tricks, i will keep my trader alt's wallet locked so you can't steal my market.

>>168526061
or just do PI

How to fix API bullshit in one simple step:
1. don't join API corps

You're welcome.

>>168528768
>implying you already can't just make an alt, never give him anything and get him to spy in desider corp.

>>168528768
more spy shit and betrayal from people who aren't 20 account mega autist ~spymasters~ would be nice I think

I would never join a corp that requires api, unless it's just character list for authenticating bullshit services

>>168528990
OK then you're not getting into my Corp then you fucking spy

>>168529148
We already have all that
>I'd never give anyone my api
Enjoy not getting into any Corp ever

>>168529427
>Enjoy not getting into any Corp ever
>that's what apifags actually believe
It's okay to justify your bad decisions in life, but you ain't convincing anybody.
Other than yourself, that is.

>>168529938
>hrs in his own Corp with all his alts
>hahaha see I'm in a Corp

You being worried about what someone else sees your already publicly available shit is like worrying so one is gonna steal your car because they read your VIN off your cars windshield

>>168529938
Nah shut up spy

>>168530252
>publicly available

what

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>Man, Gallente are such SJWs

>>168531139
>not just biomassing them

>tfw no gains like genetically modified livestock

>>168530252
But API isn't about stealing, literally what are you on about.
It's about willingly giving away information to people who have absolutely no business knowing that info.

>publicly available
>If there's a person in chat to read what you said, then your chatlog API doesn't compromise anything!
Using that logic this is also true:
>If there's a person behind your shoulder when you're an ATM then giving away PIN for your credit card doesn't compromise anything either.

Your address, full name, bank account credentials and logins are all "publicly available" then too.
But you wouldn't willingly give it all to someone, would you?

Go away with your false definition of "publicly available".

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>>168531139

I remember years ago doing a gallente storyline courier mission about delivering bottles of champagne to a 10yr olds arranged wedding.

>>168531469
A pin is private, a fucking Vin is not

>>168531469
The idea that retards want to keep their api hidden is literally synonymous with spies of all sorts or retards who think you can steal someone's shit with it

There is no reason to not provide full api in any way unless you have something to hide / keep from someone from knowing

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>>168532419
>if you want privacy then you have something to hide

>only corp leadership has access to api
>omg im so violated

>>168531748
This still doesn't make the information the API provides "publicly available".
It may not be private, but it most certainly isn't public.

The PIN may be a false equivalence with API, but so is VIN.
If you want to argue provide actual arguments.

>>168532419
I have a lot to hide.
Like what system I was in yesterday and what I typed in chat.

API is voluntary for a reason.
So that it's your choice whether you want this information released to the public or not.
If this info is not private to you then that's fine with me - what do I care?

>>168532824
>I have a lot to hide
Say no more spy you aren't getting into my corp

>>168532824
kys spai

what is privacy

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>>168528768
>Without it it'd be impossible to detect spies of any kind.

Only retards get caught because they hand over their API keys, it's just security theater.

I have characters in NCdot, TEST, Goonswarm and The Culture. All of them require full API.

If they'll ever catch me it will be because I used the wrong VPN, someone recognized my voice or writing style or I leak something with a watermark.

Most corps and alliances don't even have the right tools to make use of API keys. They just demand the keys because everyone else does it.

>NCdot
u mean NC

>being this new

>i have chars in shit alliances
>im so ebin master ruseman

>>168532824
>can I join your corp?
>sure, gimme your API
>heres a restricted one
>no anon, you give me the full API and I let you in
>REEEEE I DONT WANNA MUH PRIVACY
>ok I guess you're not getting in
>FUCKING API KEK

>>168533809
weapon grade cringe

>>168535378
corps generally want people to join them

>>168535461
There are more corps that want full API's then those who don't. Corps don't need faggots who wanna spy and hide their shit so they can cover up their other alts identities because they trade with them a lot

>>168535615
if you're doing unnecessary security shit that just makes people not want to join, you aren't doing yourself any favours

>>168535803
This never happens, you've never been in any real corp that actually does shit.

>>168535852
what do you mean this never happens, we've just been talking about how nearly all corps require full api at least for a check at the beginning, and many want you to keep an indefinite full api for them to poke around with whenever they feel like

>>168494475

High Sec Ice Mining can turn a decent profit if you're multiboxing.

>>168535983
>omg he took 5 minutes to put my API through a filter script/program. I'm SO turned off by the api process I don't even wanna join now. I'm LITERALLY shaking.

Theres nothing wrong with requiring full API keys

>>168535378
More like:
>hey I wanna find out more about the corp you're recruiting for, can you answer some questions?
>sure bud
>*10 minutes later*
>oh, one more thing - do you require full api key?
>yes
>sorry to bother you then, have fun!
I'd sperg about API if it were actually preventing me from reaching content.
As it stands, for every corp that asks API there's a corp that does the same thing and doesn't require an API.
So I'm not missing out on anything.

>inb4 that one example where the only choice is API-corps
Sure, sure. There's always something.
Though if you're dead-set on ~~those~~ corps then you have no choice but to clench your buttcheeks and then keep defending your decision on anonymous imageboards for years to come.

>>168536019
Where does the line between a decent profit and shitbux lie?

>>168531605
If you do the Gallente epic arc you can sell the son of a Gallente politician to Intaki Syndicate pedophiles

>>168536098
So you admit you're a spy thats so triggered by giving out a full API key that you don't wanna join corps that require it.

Thanks I'll remember you're a spy and to not let you in.

>I NEED MUH PRIVACY

>>168536084
that's up to the individual to decide. do you really want le martin to anally probe everything you do whenever he feels like it, without you even knowing? it's retarded

>>168536265
>thats up to the individual decide
ok then its your choice to join my corp or not but don't act like you're entitled to jack shit because you wanna hide your shitty spying and other alts I'm obviously gonna ask about.

>do you really want le martin to anally probe everything you do whenever he feels like it, without you even knowing? it's retarded
>I don't understand why people want to keep tabs on its corp mates but its retarded because I don't understand shit

>>168536162
>Hey kid, wanna /ss/?

>>168536219
No, I'm not a spy. I'm perfectly content with you thinking I'm one though.

And yes. I'm so "triggered" by APIs that I won't join any API corp.
Biggest question: why does this trigger *you*? You don't even know me.
You should mind your own business. This nosiness of yours is nothing but a red flag.

>>168536398

I understand why you want to keep tabs on people, but you should understand why people don't want you to

implying I'd want to join your autism corp anyway

>>168536575
>No, I'm not a spy.
Then gimme your full API otherwise I have no choice but to assume you're a spy because you're hiding other alts, suspicious shit you've done in the past and other fuckery I DONT want in my corp.

>>168536654
>people don't want you to
fine then you're not allowed in my corp. I don't need spies and shady people

>>168536656
>>>No, I'm not a spy.
>I have no choice but to assume you're a spy
Nice cherrypicking. Now read the next sentence.
I'll even copy it for you, here:
>I'm perfectly content with you thinking I'm one though.

>>168536110

Guess it's relative, I can't 100% remember math right now but it totals out to about 2-3 billion profit per month with about 5 miners + 1 command.

And again that's ice mining in highsec, so it's very low impact, you can essentially afk if you're running procs/skiffs. Or if you're more hands on you can switch out to covetors/hulks .. but you just gotta be watching your local/d-scan to keep an eye out for CODE wannabes.

I'm sure some uber cool decade old player will go LOL 2 BIL LMAO, but uh yeah that's fine for me and the guys I know who do it.

>>168536801
ok

>>168536162
Sounds eerily familiar

>Only people with something to hide don't want people knowing every single facet of their lives
Okay Big Brother.

>>168536823
>you're cherry picking

You claim you're not a spy, but won't effectively allow the simple task of proving you're not up to no good

You could be a corp thief, a griefer, a trouble maker, etc for all intents and purposes a spy. So when you have something to hide its ALWAYS safer, better and more efficient to just toss you aside because you're a spy and theres no point taking any risk on some faggot that thinks he should have to hide his shit from me.

>I'm perfectly ok with you thinking that
everyone is gonna call you that, you're autistic if you somehow think that you're entitled to hide shit in my corp

>>168536871
Yeah my character is only a week old, I've just been grinding standings with Caldari Navy and I have like 30m isk between him and my industrialist alt (is that even a good idea I just trained him into mining barge today)

>>168537064
you could be a big jerk too, I don't see you handing out your api key to everyone who joins

>>168537212
>you could be a big jerk
but this is my corp, I make the rules so "me being a jerk" has nothing to do with you like what you're hiding has to do with me

>hand out your corp API to everyone who joins
because they don't get that, its a security hazard, OPsec

>>168536871
>2-3 billion profit per month
>5 miners + 1 command
Were you mining a single hour per day or something? I can get the same profits with a single retriever in null.

>>168537291
it's not like being unable to join a corp that you don't want to join is some kind of problem

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>>168536871
>don't want to give API to bullies
>too shy to make friends in small comfy corp
So I should become a miner?

>>168537554
The only corp that'll take you is your own corp and an NPC corp. Any corp that doesn't require a full API is putting themselves at risk immensely

>>168537210

Sure, solo mining is fairly shit though. If I recall its about ~20 mil an hour once you're 5/5 skills.

5 mining alts + command will get you about 100 mil an hour, which is ok. It's enough to fund whatever pvp shenanigans you wanna get up to.

Honestly, if you want to do the fleet route it's not hard.

It takes 1 skill injector to get a character into barges and 5/5 skill w/ harvesting & mining upgrades + 1 plex.

>>168537501

That's at 2 hours a day roughly, yeah. It totals out to about 100 mil an hour.

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>>168537591
just follow the instructions

>>168537635
or a chill pvp corp where people actually get to know each other and are good at the game

>>168537827
>or a chill PVP corp
that is inviting a spy, griefer, corp thief unto them.

>>168537064
This is not the point.

What I'm saying is - I'm perfectly content with you denying me entrance to your corp on assumption that I'm a spy.
This will not upset or anger me in any possible way. What it will make me do is just look for another corp.
That is all.

Why are you so salty about how my approach of not joining API corps is wrong then?
Keep shady people out of your corp by any means you deem necessary. Fine with me.

But you can't go on criticizing people for being picky regarding what corp they join "because my corp is less favoured due to more screening".
You ask for API to get less shady people - that's your choice. Deal with the consequences on missing out "MUH PRIVACY" recruits, instead of flinging shit at them.

>>168537909
you want to spy on a corp with nothing to steal and no secrets? hey if you don't get kicked for being a no-mic afk autist then why not

>>168537591

If you want, I mean most guys just keep their command ships in npc corps to avoid war-decs.

There's plenty of high/low sec corps recruiting that don't bother with api because they're too insignificant to worry about it.

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>I have characters in NCdot, TEST, Goonswarm and The Culture.

>>168538098
yeah he is missing ph

>>168537931
>This is not the point.
That is the point, you have something to hide it doesn't matter what it is the safest and most logical assumption to make is to assume that you are hiding something malicious. Malicious things are bad and you are immediately suspicious for even refusing to give full unrestricted API's for any reason at all even if you claim you're benign.

>Why are you so salty about how my approach of not joining API corps is wrong then?
Because you're projecting this dumb notion that "you're not a spy" which is 100% false.

>you can't criticize people for not wanting to
I can criticize who ever I want, you're a spy

>deal with missing out on "muh privacy recruits"
I don't miss out on anything when I reject spies, corp thieves, and other malicious entities

>>168535237
Name 1 (one) non-shit alliance, please.

>>168537643
>5 mining alts + command will get you about 100 mil an hour, which is ok. It's enough to fund whatever pvp shenanigans you wanna get up to.

But you need to mine for 60 hours just to plex.
So the 2b profit/month is really just 25mil Isk/hour.
I suppose it gets better in the long term once you can SP farm or have free training queues to make some PI alts.

>>168538236
Waffles

>>168538237

Uhh, no it's 2-3 profit after you take out plexing the alts.

Hence why I said profit.

>Waffles

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>Waffles

>>168538236
The Tuskers

>>168538236
xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx

kys jeronica

pl is a decent alliance and im not baiting

>pl is a decent alliance
What did he mean by this?

>>168538918
he meant they're a decent alliance

>>168538975
are they tho?

>>168539059
Yes.

>owning a bunch of supers means you're decent
lmao

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>pl
>is a decent alliance
>and im not baiting

>>168539226
>organizing a large alliance with the best pilots, the best support, the best ships, the best FC's and the best everything doesn't mean you're decent

>>168532824
>Like what system I was in yesterday and what I typed in chat.
Not visible through the API.

>>168539298
but what has it gotten them? all they do is blob around with caps and complain about jump fatigue and the sov changes

>>168539734
>but what has it gotten them?
Anything they want.

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>no heavy drones for alphas

>>168539770
Sure, lol

>>168538342
>6 accounts making 100m/hour
>10 hours to mine a PLEX
>60 hours to PLEX all accounts
>80 hours mining to hit 2B Isk/month
>Isk/h is 25m
>spend another 20 hours mining to hit 4B Isk/month
>Isk/h is 40m
>...
>160 hours mining to hit 10B Isk/month
>Isk/h is 100m
Sounds like a full time job. Why not just run incursions with a single account?

>>168528298
still not enough powergrid and cpu, I'd have to drop the t4 plate to meta4, which would drop ehp by a lot
it drops speed to 559m/s

>>168539770
except fun. it's just a retirement alliance for terrible richfags who want to feel elite

>>168538236
White Stag Exit Bag!

>>168539864
>except fun
how would you know? Are you in PL? Because it doesn't sound like you are

>>168539824

100,000,000 (isk) x 3 (hours) x 30 (days) = 9 billion.

6 to plex + 3 profit.

Was it really that hard?

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Are there any powerful Türk corps in EVE?

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>NPSI

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>ironic mining with BRAVE
>60m an hour mercoxit
>solo'd a svipul with procurer
>8 killmarks on the thing
>70k ehp
>had to repackage it to move

>>168540192
Theres a german sub channel I guess

>>168538236
ugh, it's that all-alliances-are-terrible memester who doesn't get it and everyone whop replies to him is basically picking a disabled person up off the floor for nothing but abuse and arguments as a repayment.

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>not having a carrier to move things in

>>168539952
never mind him, grrrPL is as prevalent and as dumb as grrrrGons or any grrr(powerful group)
he probably just has a rash from Rorquals dropping on his junk.

>>168540210
That's a pity.
I'd be sad too.

>>168540192
100 aktif t*rk bile yoktur ne corpu

>>168540578
sure thing anon, anyone who doesn't think much of you is clearly just le assblasted because you epic pwned them so hard

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>being able to fit all your stuff in one taxi carrier
>being willing to cyno chain back and forth to move crap
>not having alliance JFs to move stuff quick and cheap
>talking strangers down on a Malaysian shadow puppet imageboard

>>168540192
t*rko copurlari ne anlar eve oynamaktan

>>168540680

> 2 nerds arguing about their favourite group even tho the reasons are entirely arbitrary and would change in 24 hours if they joint the other corp.

OUR TEAM IS RED HOT

UR TEAM AINT DOODLY SQUAT

>>168540680
grrr(whoever) is a mistake after you've been epic pwned tho. It's just adding flavor to a tasteless win.
Or are you new to eve? No h8 if you are m8, but eventually everybody gets to the point where they say well played, grrr is just the noise made by blasted asses.
Actually the only exception i can think of is Grath Telkin's hate for some groups, he genuinely doesn't get that you will end up flying with whoever you hate if you play long enough. To then shit on people you have some kind of standing agreement with is kinda lame, but still within the rules.

*mjd's behind you*

>>168541324
>blasted asses

I'm not. I'm just saying nothing pl does is impressive except alliance tournament I guess

>>168541289
oh man tell me about it, i fly with Brave because no commitment do what you want, but i have to listen to people grumble about groups i know are actually good at eve and good people.
Been playing since 09, got friends in every english speaking group there is.
It is good for a group to hate on another tho, it's a real basic kind of bonding, it depends on ignorance and assblastedness tho.

>>168541457
*unsheathes tachyon*
Nothing personal, kid.

>>168541457
*scrams*
pssh...not so fast...kid

>>168541482
Have you gone hunting for cap kills? Ever got news of a blops drop and counter dropped panthers with torp bombers? Pushed a swarm of sleipnirs through a wh and killed 18 ratting chimeras at once because their pvp backup is deployed?
It is next level, risks billions in nullsec and can be fucked up badly, you gotta give em credit for organisation and experience.

>>168541828
I'll give 1 fc and a couple of scouts credit. the average smug line shitter I will give nothing, because they are shit at eve

im a relatively new player, is there a reason for me not to join any of the big corps such as brave or ph?

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>ever letting go of grudges
>falling for the 'we're all just space nerds playing a game m8888o7' meme
>not attending normie EVE meets just for social engineering

>>168540192
>>168540654
>>168540967
türk olmaktan gurur duyuyorum, selam arkadaşlar Onurlu Savaşçılar klanına sizi davet ediyorum yüksek güvenlik uzayının koruyucuları Onurlu Savaşçılar uzayın en ücra köşelerindeki haydutların dahi korkulu rüyası

send complete API and forum membership is mandatory, 50% tax so our capital pilots can welp their shit

ne mutlu türküm diyene

>>168541742
*runs out of cap*
haa... haah.... im not done yet...!
*pops 3200 cap booster*

>>168542283
epüg ;-DD

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>>168542283

>>168540192
Co2

>>168542252
Only if you're "deaf" (aka autistic). But even then people are ready to help you. Be aware though, Brave are being farmed by PL. For some it's a good thing, since it allows you to git gud faster, but some might end up leaving Brave instead.

>>168541949
Some of us like to be in big groups, some of us like small gang, some solo. I like small gang because it doesn't work unless everybody is minimally competent. Sure in big groups line members are just really powerful drones but that's how big groups work, and they are way more powerful than any solo Bruce Lee.
That's why the grr just sounds like a blasted ass, it's not relevant and exactly what badly beaten victims say.

>>168542252

only downside to these corps is you're essentially not a human.

just shut the fuck up and slave your drones, pleb.

but there's a lot of upsides, namely infrastructure for new players, opportunities to learn & experience things, and you learn faster being thrown straight into the shit.

personally, I preferred babby corps first (30-50 players) which were all tight and everybody knew each other, and then progressed to managing my own.

>>168542654
Brave have been installed back in Catch to meatshield the road to the south, Test+CO2 are backing them up so if PL tries more cap committing shenanigans there could be wacky shit going down, stay tuned.

>>168542704
it's fine to be in a big group, but taking credit for the people doing all the work makes you sound terrible

>pl
>best pilots
>press f1 in t3 blob

>>168542252
Big corps usually have proper ways to deal with the newbies whereas other corps might not.
Joining a big corp for a long time will rise red flags if you want to join some other big blob however so keep that in mind.

>>168543420
name a single better alliance

>>168543420
>every other blob is losing to them

B-but they're bad!

>only fight when outnumber 3to1
>drop supers on cruisers
>farms their own feeder corp
>lolwewon xD

>>168543609
Blue Republic

>>168543859

the battle is won before it's joint, kohai :~)

>>farms their own feeder corp
?

>>168543859
sounds like winning, you got a problem with winning?

>>168543859
eve is not a fair game newfriend

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>tfw

>>168544414
>>168544480
t. risk averse plfag

>>168544516

At least add skills until you hit the 50 queue limit.

>>168545434
Not that Anon but
>had 80d 20 skill queue
>started adding towards 50 skills
>127d after adding 4 more skills
N-no thanks. This is too depressing.

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>>168546024
>9day queue
>alpha

Anyone here ever bought/sold RMT? Is it as risky as CCP jews make it out to be?

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>>168544516
>92 days
>was expecting 180 just to sit in the ship
>160 for t2

everything went better than expected!

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>tfw no fights

>>168547752
>falling for le gf o7 isk sink

lads how do we deal with rockmuncher666

>>168547909
use a hecate with dual a-type reps. or if you're good at pvp use a thorax

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>tfw you fall in love with the Nidhoggur

Is it a bad idea to to sell PLEX so I can inject enough SP just to sit in one? Can I rat with just carrier skill 3 and fighter skills at 3?

>>168547909
tell ccp to nerf the orthrus
if the best that /dog/'s top minds can come up with boils down to 'the counter for X ship is another X ship with better skills!' it means it's unbalanced

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>>168525226

Three, actually.

J010556, J011195 and J005299

>>168546706
Knew a fella who logged in one day to find his account was already active, got that usurped by proxy notify you get when you log in to an already online account.
When he finally managed to log in he found he'd lost an orca full of assets on a gate somewhere.
He traced the IP and found it had been accessed from Latvia.
Petitioned to CCP, got a note back saying it was an operation against RMT.
Yeah he had bought a bunch of RMT isk, they sell tens of billions for 20 bucks.
Really weird case, someone took his orca, stuffed it with things then got it ganked on a hisec gate somewhere, maybe to make the stuff untraceable?
He's since left the game (not because of that) but was firmly of the opinion that Rus mafia scum employ streetkids to farm isk and sell it and that CCP is mixed up with that somehow.

>>168549271
this story makes zero sense