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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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SMT HD Game and 3DS game planned in the works:
http://shin-megamitensei.jp/

SMT HD Project teased at Nintendo Switch Presentation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALfkAh4iZ6o

Participate in the current /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/sBJjhw7f

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/ByiXrDGX

Previous thread: >>168152287
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I let the demons out /smtg/
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xth for Serph
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This is perfection.
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>>168467775
How long is he going to stay in the flower fields?
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Vote for best mainline game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
Vote for best spinoff game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/12100304

VOTE
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>>168468417
no mt2 no vote
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>>168469626
VOTE
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>>168466686
What a magnificent glass.
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Stop picking non-Neutral routes
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>>168470489
They should have more cute girls slitting their own throats.
It does a good job at making you want to be neutral
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>>168470489
Sorry Bobo I need muh 100% completion.

If it makes you feel better I almost always get neutral on the first run.
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FAI NA RU

was a

DIS A POINT MENT
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>>168471905
Just like I read in reddit!

Upvoted, bro :)
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What is demon?
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>>168472696
A miserable pile of contracts
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>>168472696
a miserable pile of magnetite
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>>168472696
A miserable pile of macca
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>>168472696
a miserable pile of data
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Playing SMT2, I know YHVH is in the game and so I thought I'd go Chaos to fight him. Will I end up fighting him and whoever is the head of Chaos if I go neutral?
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>>168473604
You fight him regardless of route
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Who is YHVH
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>>168473792
A demon that pretends to be god
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Redpill me on Law.
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>>168473995
It's a perfectly justified reponse to humanity letting the demons out desu

YHVH allows all manner of degeneracy to exist as long as you contain the demons
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>>168473687
No shit? Cool. I might still go Neutral so I can fight both sides. If my boy Lucifer is in the game I'll probably side with him, he was pretty based in MT2.
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>>168473995
it's the alignment of naive faggots hence "lawfag"
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>>168473995
law is for intellectuals
Chaos is for children
neutral is for fuck you
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>>168467775
Senile and impotent, reeks of tobacco, not fit.
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>tfw angels try to assassinate you for letting a shitload of lilim into your human community so you can exploit them for macca but you manage to convince some of the angels to join your side by giving them random items and then fuse them together to form lilith
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>>168475679
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What Gaston and Hallelujah argued about?
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>>168476148
theyre so shiny theyd squeak if you wiped them with a cloth
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>>168476148
How many fingers you can put into Nozomi's vagina.
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>>168476148
I just noticed Hallelujah's nails. Are they like that ingame?
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>>168476302
nozomi can't have babies anymore
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>Save Mari from a vampire, have to find her bag
>Find bag
>Have to save some civilians from the police
>Day ends
Did I fuck up somewhere?
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>>168476378
Yes.
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Why doesn't nu-Dagda revive Navarre?
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>>168476750
Because IVF is well written
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>>168477230
Good point.
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>>168476750
You never asked him to.
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>>168478363
Strange Journey Final soon?
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can i do any ending in nocturne with a str build?
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>>168479564
yeah
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>>168479564
yes
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>>168479564
>tfw to strong for shijima
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>>168480859
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Which route should I do first in Devil Survivor Overclocked? I have Yuzu, Amane, and Kaido open.
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How many Branes are there in YHVH universe?
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>>168482748
woops >>168483082
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>>168483082
Oh thank god
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Huh, Kaneko actually illustrated something new.

http://shoten.kadokawa.co.jp/sp/mangagakushu/jinbutsuden/
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>>168483258
Neat
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>>168483258
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>>168483258
Nice.
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>>168483258
he's back
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>>168470489
Neutral is a meme.
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>>168474950
>>168473995

That's a little off.

Law is the intersection between intelligence and altruism
Neutral is for your typical nonreflective people.
Chaos (where you are one of the strong) is for frat bros
Chaos (where you think you are one of the strong but end up the weak) is for neckbeards.
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>>168482172
Amane. Its by far the best route.
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are there any undub let's plays of SMT IV Final? don't want to mod my 3DS
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>>168482748
Too many.
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If I ever play Nocturne again, no way in hell am I going to fight Noah again. That fight was just monotonous. I had no problem but it just took way too damn long even with full buffs and debuffs, and it was just a slog.
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>>168476750
Didn't Navarre kill himself? Why would he want to be revived?
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>>168490070
He drowned himself after seeing Isabeau naked.
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>>168490123
So would I
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>>168490070
He died accidentally, not on purpose. He was masturbating to a female hunter taking a bath, and then fell and drowned.
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Does YHVH resist ultimate? I want to try killing him without Awakened Power
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>>168490139
Fuck you Isabeau has a voloptuous figure.
I bet she's good at all sorts of lewd things
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>>168490325
I'm not into bestiality, sorry
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>>168490364
We're not taking about Asahi though
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in apocalypse, should I stick with +9 heavy abilities or switch them out for things like glacial blast, judgement light, etc.
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hee ho
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Anyone got sick SMT wallpapers?
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>>168495976
this ones my current wallpaper cause its good resolution
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>>168495976
I always liked this one. Could be bigger though.
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>>168432047
Could I get a link to this?
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>tfw almost through Strange Journey, at least I think
>no motivation to continue
I think I'm going to start up Last Bible today.
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>>168498843
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>>168499838
>not Fucking Casualries

Failure as a human.
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>>168499950
Alas, you're right.
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>>168500156
Repent. There is still time.
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what does it truly mean to be son of man?
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>>168503816
killing all your friends
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>>168503816
Liking Lady Gaga.
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So uh does it have a penis?
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>>168505942
of course ___
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>Chaos Hero fusing with my Lillim
Lucky fucking bastard
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playing DDS2
>Serph dies so I get Sera who gets all his stats
>my healer Argilla decides to fuck off and die
>Serph is back
>Sera is still here
>now I have 2 of the same character but Sera has more mantras

What the fug
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>fusing in IVA
>get a fusion error
>get a demon 7 levels higher than me
Are Famed demons still only fusion accident exclusive in Apocalypse?
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>>168507121
Yeah, it's like that
Later they fuse and become one, so learn different mantras with each
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>>168489908
Now try fighting him in a blind run without any good mage.
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>>168483258
IT'S TIME
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>Triangulum Arc
>meet Miyako

What an angel. Oh god how amazing.
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>>168482172
The one you agree with.
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hey, does anyone remember what party they used to farm in tar nig nog? I kinda want to just mindlessly auto pinpoint while I watch a movie.
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SMT Live Action movie when
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SMT x newsman
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>>168508537
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NOW!
WHEN THE THOUSAND YEARS HAVE EXPIRED
SATAN WILL BE RELEASED
JUDGEMENT HAS COME TO YOU!
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>atlus will never port the DS/3DS games to PC like squeenix did for the FF games
i cry every time
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>>168505942
That's what's good about being bisexual master race. You don't have to worry about these kinds of things ahead of time. You just unzip and get ready to go to town on their hole, and if it turns out there's more than one its just an expansion of options.
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>>168511218
Epic.
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>>168511218
>homosexual propaganda
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>>168511157
Just get a 2DS and buy all the games before they stop pressing carts.
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I'm playing SMT IV and this is my first SMT game, just consulted the FAQ thing trying to avoid spoilers. Right now I'm doing my stat build with Luck as main stat followed by Agi/Str being split and totaling up to half my Luck value. Looking at the guide though, it looks like dex boosts physical damage more than str for physical attacks except for the standard attack.

But I'm curious, if I use a weapon like the bone sword that I just unlocked in the shop will my luck stat make my basic attacks more likely to inflict sleep from the weapon effect or does luck only apply to skills?
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>>168512684
well it's just that stuff like higher res would be nice

that and the fact that the 2DS is huge
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>>168507597
No, they infact changed the Zealot race to work the same way as the Famed, and there's still the Undead sans Alice too.
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Quick question on Apocalypse.

I'm at the third brane, fighting metatron.

How close I am to the end?
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>>168515290
what do you think?
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>>168515771
Well, I wonder if I have something 5 more "levels" to go, or if it's the last one.
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>>168515290
5 more to go
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>>168515909
*like
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>>168515909
your answer is in the thread.
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>>168495976
the one i use
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>Sector Grus

I'm a little bitch and this area is about to make me drop this game
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>>168492776
I miss holding hands with Alice while running through the fields.
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why are life stones in SMT1 such a fucking burden
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>>168483258
So can we finally stop with this "Kaneko's humans suck" meme.
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>>168519579
of course his art would have evolved from the 90s

i want him to redraw all the demons desu
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>>168519579
sure but his angels are still so fucking 80s, goddam
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>>168520008
>something drawn in 80s/early 90s looks 80s/early 90s
whoa
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>>168520008
Yeah, they look pretty jarring and they desperately need a redesign that isn't the mess from IV.
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>>168520008
that is literally a jojo character
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>>168520519
holy shit etc etc
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I just preordered a Switch, mainly for new SMT game. Am I retarded?
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is it possible to get all the magatamas and the ultimate one before finishing the last kalpas in nocturne

i know there exists a no-turning back point in the store where I can't get the kalpa-ending anymore, but is it doable before while having the ultimate magatama?
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>>168523217
Probably. It's likely that it will be a Switch exclusive but we also got fooled by SMTxFE, so I wouldn't count on it.
Also depends on how much you like (new) SMT of course.
I got a WiiU only because of Fatal Frame and I didn't regret it at all.
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>>168523217
What else did you preorder it for? The most likely answer is yes though since we know almost nothing about it.
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>>168523634
Zelda, Super Mario Odyssey, Fire Emblem Warriors, also Mario Kart as it's the only game my gf will play.
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>>168523241
No, because there are a few magatamas you buy from a shop in the final dungeon, which you have to clear all the kalpas before entering to get the ending you're going for.
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>>168523912

ah ok so to my understanding ther is either the kalpa ending, or getting the ultimate magatama and choose another ending, is that right?
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>>168524354
The only "point of no return" is if you agree on climbing an elevator at the very end of the labyrinth; which will lock you in TDE no matter what.
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>>168524602

hmm alright thanks, this is my first playthrough so i'm not sure whats gonna happen further in the game, so I should get the magatamas first before doing the kalpas (i can go to the 4th kalpa now btw)
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>>168524354
You can still get the ultimate magatama regardless of what ending you wind up going for but the labyrinth of amala must be completed before you head to the final dungeon.
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reposting:

Help, /smtg/

So I downloaded the hard mod for Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne from

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3299/

and I keep getting these graphical glitches after patching the game with the mod. Some objects seem to be see-through (2 pics on the top). For comparisons sake, I've included 2 pictures from the same place only this time the game was left unpatched. I also get random frame drops in the patched version which never happened in the orig. version

Has anyone come across this on their PCSX2? I've tried older builds, different plugins and the trick from the SMT Nocturne Wiki but it's not working. The only solution seems to be playing in software mode.
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>>168525430
It's because you be on that phone
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>pixie transformed dia to analyze
I should never let demons transform skills right?
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>>168525173

ok one last thing, so the final dungeon you mean is not the last kalpa but one afterwards, further in the story
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>>168525430
My guess is that PCSX2 has some sort of game-specific fix (it uses many of these to avoid graphical glitches in popular games) built into it that will be applied when and only when it detects nocturne is running. For whatever reason it's not detecting the modded version as nocturne, thus is not applying the fix. That's just my guess, I would go ask the emulation general about it, since I doubt anyone here is really an expert on the internal workings of PCSX2.
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>>168526237
All endings have you go to the same final dungeon. The only difference with the kalpa ending is that you must complete the labyrinth of amala before going there.
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>>168525430
Switch to openGL hardware
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>>168526218
I definitely never trust it.
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>>168526463

ah ok thank you very much
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>Spica has gained resistance to Almighty
>all my demons have is holy dance and drain

rip
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>>168525430
Alright, I got it to work.

If you wanna check the mod out, here's what you do.
>start the game via with the original unpatched .iso
>when the PS2 logo pops up, go to "iso selector" and swap the disc to the patched .iso of Nocturne
>it will go into boot mode where the memory cards etc. are. just click on "PS2 disc" and it will properly boot into the modded version of Nocturne without the graphical glitches.
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>>168528393
Good to know. Thanks Jeff.
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Anyone know a fusion method to get Mediarama for Maki in Persona 1? Saurva is not being very hospitable.

Oh, and is there any solid method for dealing with random battles other than blasting them with (All Foes) magic attacks from all sides? Something like Naoto in Persona Q and her almost guaranteed instant death attacks would be really nice, but I suppose that's probably wishful thinking.
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>>168525031
If you want the TDE (best ending objectively) you have to do the 5th kalpa before entering the very last story dungeon. It's very doable without all the Magatamas. You'll get them all eventually anyway
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>>168489320
>Law
>Intelligence
Only your superiors are allowed to be intelligent and you must like it. Dumb sheep.
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Playing DeSu, are any of the paths significantly harder than others?
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>>168530954

thanks for the info
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when will atlus make a phone game that's a demon app????
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>>168534610
Naoya path has a boss rush
Gin path final boss is humans only
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How do I kill Wendigo in DeSu? My humans are around lvl8 and my demons don't last more than a single turn.
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>>168538546
You are really underleveled anon, should do some free battles to catch up
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>>168538546
git
gud
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>>168538705
What level should I reach at this point?
Also does this game contain a lot of grinding like that?

>>168538812
The two demon with him are also too strong
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>>168538973
Have you been cracking all the skills available for you at the time?
I started playing DeSu recently too and didn't have any problem with Wendigo, I didn't go out of my way to grind intensively, but I always go for free battles to see if there are new skills to crack
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>>168538973
Also I don't remember the exact level Wendigo is, but I believe I was one level below or at his level, my party was either Garm or Waira and a Moh Shuvuu
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>>168511218
>master1200
Come on anon.
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>>168538546
hit him with fire
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>play smt4
>first smt
>all i really know is its a jrpg and you can get demons to join you
>first dungeon, kill monster quest done, save
>now i gotta recruit up three demons
>centaur, easy grab
>next monster, chinese chicken and nepaea
>they get the first hit and take out centaur
>FUCK
>recruit nepaea
>gets killed in one hit by chickedy china
>reset and load save i made after getting centaur
>rest of the hour is failing to get a nepaea or her getting immediately killed

does it get better than this
please say yes
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>>168541956
Just give up. You're never going to make it.
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>>168541956
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>Mothman says hee-ho in devil survivor
wtf
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>>168519579
How is this even a meme, his human designs are as good as anything he's done.
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>>168541956
Recruiting is pretty much RNG in IV. It doesn't matter what option you choose. That said if it's taking you an hour to recruit 3 demons you might be doing something wrong.
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>>168541956
dying in smtIV isn't game over

you did that to yourself
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>>168541956
>being this much of a scrub
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>>168541956
You're going to rage quit at Minotaur and Medusa so you may as well give up.
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>>168542997
Fuck i remember Minotaur, that was a trip.
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>>168542475
I guess I should've been more specific and said first SMT game as in the franchise, I haven't played ANY of these games at all. I haven't really ever played a jrpg either besides Crystalis on GBC.

>>168542675
Honestly I think that I'm just trying to hard to keep them alive, whenever they kept dying I just would reload but I guess they're intentionally fragile?

>>168542997
pls no
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>>168542997
I still don't get this, I didn't die on Minotaur and only died once on Medusa because I forgot to heal. I bought my copy of SMTIV used and the dumbass who had it before quit on Medusa after he was clearly grinding and for some reason he ONLY had Kaso on his team. No other demons in his stock that I remember.
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>>168543341
just let the demons hits the floor
they're your tools
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>>168543149
why the fuck is SMT1 Protag not Pascal/Cerberus?!
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>>168543341
Dying doesn't mean they leave your stock. They shouldn't be dying all that much anyway, Hit weaknesses and top up HP out of battle with restoratives or Dia if you have to.
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>>168543754
>just let the demons hits the floor
>they're your tools
that feels so rood tho

>>168543896
>Dying doesn't mean they leave your stock
So how does it work?
>top up HP out of battle with restoratives or Dia if you have to.
I would but usually when I try to recruit they mostly want items, and I've only started this dang game.
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>>168543754
>they're your tools
Demon's are not tools anon, they're digital friends to the boys and girls. You should treat them much better.

That being said, Digimon x SMT when? They're practically the same setting, Digimon even has friend punching.
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>>168544606
>So how does it work?
like a fainted pokemon or similar
they'll be revived/healed when you rest
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>>168545703
Oh, ok. It just looks like they're gone, so I kept panicking.
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Hoy
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>>168531764
... and in Chaos only the strong have a say.
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Why doesn't Asahi follow orders like a good girl?
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What makes a guy strong according to a chaosfag?
Hitting the gym? Being crafty? Being a ruthless motherfucker? Having some good friends.
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>>168542531
>playing Devil Survivor
That's the real problem here.
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>>168551456
I'd assume being able to what you want with the power you have.
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>>168551664
to do*
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>>168551456
Every single one of these , chaos is pretty much defending your average high school environment into a global scale the strong,beautiful,rich and powerful rule. People who can't be at least one of those either start to suck them up or get fucked.
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There really a reason to run a dedicated healer in SMT IV? I'm on Medusa and seems like every fight is more or less "kill them before they kill you", some enemies use moves that hit 3+ party members for 3/4 hp and move twice a turn..
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>>168553373
Any magic demon is good at healing necause you only need a couple of slots to make a healer.
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>>168466686
Is it me or SMT just too inaccessible?

I started SMT4 and I literally died in the first dungeon

not even Fire Emblem is that hard in the first level
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>>168554548
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>>168554689
>SMT
>hard

>FE
>hard

Just get used to it, anon. Dying is not the end of the world; specially in a game where you can save and toggle difficulties at any time.
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>SMT2
>Bruta Hannya keeps asking me to be her love slave and and loves it every time I compliment her
>can't recruit because I'm a filthy lawfag
LET ME BE CHAOS OR AT LEAST FUCKING NEUTRAL GODDAMMIT I DIDN'T WANT THIS
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SMT on Switch stars Oda Nobunaga as the protagonist according to twitter.

Kaneko will be returning for this new project.
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>>168556126
>Historical setting with Kaneko returning
Too good to be true.
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>>168556126
why even bother when source link for that pic is in the thread
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>>168556328
I can't read moonrunes, so I'm glad he posted this.
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>>168556541
It's not even anything to do with SMT. It's just some light novel cover.
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>>168554986
what about when you're playing SMT 1-3

Nocturne beat my ass
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SMT if...
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summer 2011
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I need a recomendation, Im on lv 72 on Horologium bf2, I need a recomendation on who bring to final boss, Alice is a must the other 2 are wild cards.
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Edison is pretty cute.
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SMT x Kingdom Hearts
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what went wrong?
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>>168561193
It was boring and had bad music.
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>>168561193
I would hate it less if it wasn't mostly empty space with bad music.
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>>168561193
Walking through empty space is boring. Didn't mind the music
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>>168561193
Been through that shithole multiple times, and still never found all the armor pieces in there.
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>Lost my DeSu and SMT IV save files
Thanks 11.3
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>>168561193
Too T H I C K
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>>168558039

Any demons that can reflect spells is a blessing in that boss battle, as it allows you to deal damage without depending much on attacking too often. She doesn't have any weaknesses, so it's not going to be like you can take advantage of the party attack system.

Off the top of my head, Hresvelgr with something to take care of his fire weakness is a blessing. She does a 6-8 hit (yes, that fucking many, why, because fuck you) physical attack, and he's a godsend to have as he can reflect both ice and fire. He has a weakness to Gun, but I'm pretty damn sure she doesn't have anything relating to gun. I can't remember any more, as it's been a while since I've played Strange Journey, but basically:

Get demons with Reflect. Get a demon with Salvation or someone who can play up-keep on your party; don't just also leave that on one demon only, give it to at least one other guy. Debuff her and buff yourself.

And then fucking pray. God help you come MA.
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So if scout won't work on demons in YHVH's universe what's a good place to get new high level demons?
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>>168561193
>Boring scenery and music.
>Wide open, flat, and empty pieces of land that take forever to traverse
>No traps, puzzles, or anything even remotely interesting aside from teleporters.
>No real incentive to explore since the only worthwhile loot is behind stat doors
>Only memorable parts were the Metatron horde and the lead up to YHVH.
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why is yhvh trying so hard to keep Kaneko from us?
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>>168562508
DLC goyjin
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>>168562439

Also, an addendum:

You can use Magic mirrors and shit in her FIRST PHASE ONLY.

Do not fucking do it on her second phase. If you do, she'll use MA on your ass like it's going out of fucking style.

I'd recommend going with the Dragon Vest as well as the ring that acts as an Endure. You can also get one that makes you immune to Petrification, as her random status effect bullshit can spit in your face and fuck you over in that regard, but it's generally never happened to me as far as I've seen.
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How do I beat Belial's battle? Once he summons reinforcements I'm practically out of SP and most of my good demons are dead because of his Maragidyne
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>>168562604
Because we don't deserve him
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>>168563145
To clarify: its in DeSu and I've got a few demons with Ice Dance but by the time he summons a few more demons, my team is practically done for
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>>168473995
edgy /pol/fag alignment
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Are Danu and Dagda weeaboos?
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>>168562508
fuse cosmic egg demons, go to twisted tokyo
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>>168564784
Oh wow I had no idea about Twisted Tokyo. Will definitely spend some time there thanks.
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Wake up
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Get up.
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SMT x 2hu
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SMT x JoJo
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SMT x TMS
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SMT x Persona
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SMT x SRW
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SMT x SNK
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>>168573553
>tfw I'll never see Terry, or Heidern drawn by Kaneko
>tfw I'll never see Shinkiro draw Raidou, or Chaos Hero
It just isn't fair.
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How did NuDusa expect to petrify someone with boobies like these? Nobody would look into her eyes.

Also, where/when do I get the Black Card for the premium shops? I'm on Tsukiji Hongwanji quest and finally gained access to Ginza for the first time, even the premium shop areas. But they won't trade with me without the card. I assume, since they let me in that area, I can already get the Black Card somehow. Or am I wrong?
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>>168575940
You get it from a sidequest late into the game
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>>168576164
Damn, again. I liked how I just wandered randomly in IV and traded gold/black cards with some NPCs. Don't know if Apocalypse opens up later in the game, but so far it's been really linear.
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I really want to play the original SMT, what version should I pick? Ideally I'd like the Android version (don't own an iPhone) but I don't know if there's a translation patch for it.
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>>168554689
I really don't understand this. Dying doesn't equate to inaccessibility, you should instead view it as the game teaching you what you can and can't do early. Why does everyone want their hand held these days?

That's not to say SMTIV's game balance isn't hilariously front-loaded, but the beginning isn't anywhere near hard enough that you can't push through it with a little effort.
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>>168575940
It's amazing how a different artstyle can do wonders for the same design.
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I going against Mem Alpeh. Is an Alice with Diarahan passable or she must have mediarachan/Salavation?
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>>168577983

Most of Mem Aleph's attacks are attacks that hit everyone, so group heals are way better than singular ones.
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is there more than one black card shop in apocalypse? I've only found the one in ginza shopping district with the sissy maid costumes and demonica.
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>>168579513
There are two in the same zone, just like in IV.
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>>168577983
Oh, you're in for a treat.
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>>168577983
>>168579046
Has there ever been a case in SMT when group heals didn't absolutely outclass single target heals? They're not much more expensive, but heal almost as much as the single heals, and with Mediarahan case just as much.
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>>168580020

Usually whenever you're in the middle of a dungeon sprawl or trying to conserve mana in a battle, it's way more profitable to think about single-heals rather than going broad and possibly losing out on an action later on or putting you in a situation where you're pressed for either getting that MP back, or trying to hope that luck'll make up for the lack of it. The cost is a bitch: two to three times more than a single heal, which is definitely a problem if you're caught up in something that you can't just easily teleport out of.

Of course, this is just in the case of it being level-by-level. If we're talking about later on, then it's way better to just have a group heal that a demon can spend willy-nilly for shit that doesn't necessarily require a full-brunt Prayer or what heal'll match up with what state of magic you're on.

This is a blessing for physical guys, especially if the game doesn't have Arts Mastery or whatever: it takes the brunt of what's wrong out of your party as well as healing up any scratches so that you can still dish out HP-tied damage dealing physical attacks, or just physical attacks in general.

Basically: single heals are good for conserving MP early-game/hobo stage, but when you're in later on, it's better to let the MP conserving heals just be group heals a stage or two below your current magic shit so that you can cover up any small mistakes here and there and not leave any room for error.

Also, they let you skill-change into the group heals if you actually get them to fucking change the skill and not change another skill into something retarded like fucking Shibaboo, fuck you Kodama, just get fucking Media already you piece of childish shit
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Where can I get a Mou Ryo in Apocalypse?
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>>168581518
Just fuse it?
Although I think I saw them in some random encounters. Can't say for sure where.
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You know the drill.
What do you do?
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>>168583727
I don't know the drill.
What do they do?
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>>168583974
You're in YHVHs universe, and he slaps your girlfriends ass.
What do you do?
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>>168583727

Realize that my girlfriend didn't take that much damage at all because he didn't cast Futility yet, then me and her spam Charge and then Debilitate the shit out of him before kicking him in the dick.
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>get to my first Demon Domain in Apocalypse
>enter battle
>IV's Tokyo battle theme starts playing
>find boss
>IV's boss theme starts playing
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I can't do it, /smtg/.
How the fuck do I beat Tiamat in SJ?
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>>168587156
You better have Dekaja and Debilitate/all -kunda spells. Also the classic fuse demons that null/reflect/drain the element Tiamat uses and that have elemental spells according to Tiamat's weakness.
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>>168588909
>You better have Dekaja and Debilitate/all -kunda spells
>Debilitate
Well, I'm already fucked. I've made my way this far, and have yet to fuse something with that, or Luster Candy. I've got Dekaja handy, at least.
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>>168589115
Dekaja is a great start. You better have at least Sukunda/Tarunda ready too, not necessarily Debilitate. If you don't have Luster Candy just get Sukukaja and/or Rakukaja to survive some more turns or Tarukaja if you already have some high HP but can't deal enough damage.
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Is it worth going through Twisted Tokyo if I'm already near the end game?
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>>168589115

Don't throw in the towel just yet, Anon. There's a lot of demons ready to be fused as well as leveled up for their D-Source. Remember that you always get the D-Source on your first max analyze level up for most demons, which is easy as hell (stand still and defend with them in your party for like a few dozen turns on Sector A). Look and see if you can get a D-source from any demons that have Debilitate/Luster Candy, they're easy to look up and I think Thoth might have one of those (maybe, but don't take my word on it)

Also, a few points that might help you:

Don't debuff her to -4 on anything. The second you do, she'll use it without pause. I stuck to just getting her to minus two or so and then focusing on myself. Try to go for Agility first-hand as the party-wide bufu shit is fucking atrocious.

Kill the Black Rider. I'm pretty sure he had a gun that has you shoot out Electric shots. It's practically mandatory on solo runs, and even outside of that, it's a blessing for her electrical weakness. If you can't get them, just get Mazio stones.

And lastly, there's always ways to get yourself back in the game no matter how fucked you are in the games. It's a matter of just getting gud

>>168589684

If you want. I really only do it just for getting some demons here and there, as well as some grinding so that if one demon gets fucked up, I'm not completely screwed.
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>>168589458
>>168589737
Alright, thanks. Gonna get some sleep, and give this another shot in the morning. I've been stuck here for a lot longer than I should've been, and it's wearing me down.
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Is there even any reason for not being a chaosfag?
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What was Toki's arc in Apocalypse supposed to be?
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>>168495976
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>>168594239
That deep down she gets wet from bullying Navarre.
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>>168594239
something about coming of age and humanist chaosfaggotry
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Why were they killed off so quickly?
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Guys Miyako-chan is so cute
She's a miracle
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>>168563430
This is true
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>>168600273
Is the Triangulum Arc's story any good? I mean, it can't possibly be worse than DeSu 2's main game writing can it?
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>>168600075
I want to be Nanashi in this image
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>>168600075
couldn't survive in a world of str
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>>168603271
Nanashi looks pretty good in that pic.
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>>168603101
So far for me it's literally the same story with minor changes. Instead of Sep its the Triangulum. But I'm only on the second one so
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>>168603101
>it can't possibly be worse than DeSu 2's main game writing can it?
It is.
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>>168604784
>>168605221
Thanks guys. You just killed my interest in trying it out. Guess I'll keep playing Apocalypse for now.
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>>168594239
muh master
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>>168604143
>Nanashi with a full head of hair
no thanks
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>>168605538
Operation Return of the Cardboard Box gave me a chuckle just now. There are some funny scenes throughout the Tri Arc
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>>168608029
Are they genuinely funny scenes or just cringey scenes like in the main story? I actually like light hearted jokes and stuff but DeSu 2's "comical" scenes were really fucking bland as they can be.
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>>168610036
cringey scenes like in the main story
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>>168610036
If I'm to be truthful more cringe.
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>>168610092
>>168610120
I'm not sure if I should feel disdain for Tri Arc if it's really that bad or curiosity to see just how bad of a trainwreck it can be.
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Otome teasing me even harder in Tri. This woman is my dream.
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>>168610036
The whole thing is made worse by them being in an even worse scenario than they were in the first arc (no Yamato to coddle them, Miyako is incompetent) yet they take things even less seriously than they did at first. Also Miyako amounts to nothing but a forgettable waifu despite all the characters hyping her and sucking her off. They have to get Yamato back to clean up her mess.
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>You can't open this door at your current luck level
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>>168610585
Not gonna lie, I really like Miyako's design but considering the general reception of the Tri Arc I'm not too keen on playing it. I still remember the meltdown we had back in 2015, when we started getting the first japanese spoilers and stuff.
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>>168541956
You know you can ressurect demons right? If you get a demon save instantly.
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>>168543486
>I didn't die on Minotaur and only died once on Medusa because I forgot to heal
Then you were lucky. On hard mode, there is no guaranteed way to beat them, it's literally just RNG. Even if you get up 4 sukukaja/kundas, he can hit you with labrys strike and get free smirks
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>>168611461
Who you think she is is probably better than who she is.
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>>168611461
Its not intolerable. Its decent for what it is.
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So i finished Persona 1 + 2 last week and DDS 1 just now, what should i play next?
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>>168612760
DDS2
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>>168613331
OK, how long is it?
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>>168613438
22 hours give or take.
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>>168613546
Not bad, i'll start it in a little bit.
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>>168612760
Did you play IS and EP or just one of them?
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how are you supposed to get new demons if you can't use scout on demons in YHVH's universe and twisted tokyo?
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>>168613807
Just IS, i wanted some time before i went back to EP, i will probably play it after DDS2 and i might play the first Raidou game before it.
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>>168614490
Slowly fusing them from ones from the cosmic egg.
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how many cosmic egg sections are there
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>>168614654
Well that sucks.
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>>168614862
Welcome to why I said fuck it at yhvh and lowered the difficulty.
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>>168614490
That awkward point where you need to start using the fusion guide tools to make good demons. I've been stuck in the cosmic egg for a while now just because I don't feel like messing around with fusion even though I want Odin and Baal in my party. I also want to make a super powerful Alice.
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>>168614971
Guess I'm going back to the shitty cosmic egg then. I'd rather not lower the difficulty like >>168614928 recommended.
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>>168614971
And right after making this post I get my shit together and fuse Odin, Izanami and Kazfiel. Nice. Angel is next.
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>>168618298
Haven't summoned a demon chick yet.
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>>168618298
xD
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>>168618298
Because my waifu isn't real yet.
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>>168618298
Haven't found that special girl to spend the rest of my life with.

And i probably never will.
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>>168618298
2scared of boys.
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>>168618298
I'm not. I bought this like a month ago for her to wear during sex while shouting praises to law. Not even joking.
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>>168618962
That looks ugly af.
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NEW SMT ON 3DS WHEN
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how many cosmic eggs are there
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>>168619201
6
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>>168618298
But I'm not a virgin since I was 16.
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>>168619698
Your uncle raping you in the colon not counting.
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>>168619886
>uncle Terry
>waiting until you're 16
You're such an optimist.
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>>168619886
That was an accident. It never happened again.
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>>168619886
16 is way too old.
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>>168620343
>>168620231
Maybe his uncle got a standarts? What sick fuck would want to fuck a children anyway?
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I just beat the bosses on the first brane, but haven't explored everything yet. Should I just keep going or explore the entire brane? Anything worth wild?
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>>168619307
why what the fuck
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>>168620578
If you don't want the area to last forever then move on.
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>>168619886
Technically speaking, taking it in the ass doesn't count as losing virginity though.
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>>168621576
Funny story. I did my girlfriend in the ass a long time before regular since we weren't seeing eachother for awhile. And she kept insisting that it counts as losing virginity. And I was like I don't know, its kind of ambiguous. But she didn't like that her sister insulted her for being a virgin. Even though that didn't make much since since we'd been going out for awhile, so when she was still a virgin it was clearly by choice.
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>>168619037
>he doesn't want to fuck an angel and cum on her back
Don't be a faggot.
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>>168620516
We all know what they really did to their little princess.
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If it wasn't for Mokoi, smt would have been lost to me. My first SMT game was Demikids when it got released in the US.
>Amazing game
>beat it
>Stupid kid self traded it in...

Went through my whole life after that thinking about how good it was.

Then one day two years ago I randomly bought 'Persona Q' not knowing anything about it.
>Started playing
>thinking this game is pretty alright.
> Fight a few fights and gained a new Persona.
>It was mokoi

Made the connection at that moment, then proceeded to buy all of the SMT game I could find.

I ended up grabbing Nocturn, SMT IV/Apocalypse, devil survivor 1&2, Soul hackers, Persona 3,4,&Q, and Tokyo Mirage sessions.

Im working on beating them all.
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>>168621576
So gay men are eternally virgins?
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>>168621576
Yup. People's poophole loophole.
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>>168597050
But even Lucifer, Belial, and Lucifuge think humans are too retarded to pursue a path of Chaos by themselves, and need demons to help them.
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>>168622837
I got into smt because of Mokoi too.
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>>168624517
>gas the demons. Race war now.

Atlus didn't really think iva through too well. Don't try to make sense of it.
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>>168622837
Oh wait... is that a boomerang???

I always thought it was a weird creepy nail
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>>168624686
Yup, thats a boomerang. Weird haha
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>>168622837
>>168624647

God bless this demonic ginger.
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>>168466686
>http://shin-megamitensei.jp/
What did they mean with "coming soon"?
Next E3?
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>>168625913
I work at Atlus,
It's a Persona 1 Remake.
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>>168625913
Baka-anon, it's smt stuff.
Why do i always fall for this bait?
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it'd be funny, since 3DS will be totally dead>>168625913
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Yeah I get it, Mara looks like a dick, this quest isn't funny. I'm so tired of this shit meme demon and normalfags getting hard about him.
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>>168623551
No. Taking it doesn't count but f you stick your dick then you're no longer virgin.
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>>168589115
>>168589737
Get fucked, Tiamat.
After some sleep, and newly acquired motivation, I got her. Thanks guys.
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>>168626903
Gratz anon. Post team/skills/strategy for future reference.
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>>168626846
I feel the exact same.
Fuck the Mara meme.
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Agreed SMT it's so cringe ~.~
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Anybody know what OST is playing during this boss? I can't seem to find it.
https://youtu.be/J_XNXXioh1o?t=2458
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>>168627551
It's from original IV
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>>168627074
Every single Megaten game needs 5 minutes full of bad, obvious penis jokes written by Adam Sandler and starring Mara.
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>>168627684
Guess that explains why I couldn't find it in 4A's OST then. Thanks
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>Atsuro sticks with you no matter what
A true bro
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>>168628080
>cucks you on Naoya's power of friendship path
>true bro
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>>168628401
He tries to but fails and Naoya makes fun of him. Yuzu only cares about that King's demonic cock.
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How do i not be intimidated by fusion options? I always feel like I'm making a bad decision
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Anybody else slow as fuck playing SMT games? I know they're usually decent length games but right now I'm at the final boss of Nocturne and I've clocked in 123 hours or so.
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>>168630650
How the hell have you done that. That's double my first run.
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>>168630623
If you feel like you want a demon back, you can always buy him. Always save before you start fusing in case of a change of heart, or even worse, a fusion error.
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>>168630893
A couple times I've had to leave my PS2 on while I do other things but that probably only accounts for ~5 hours. I like to fully explore every nook and cranny and just wander, and sometimes I delay moving on because I don't want the game to be over. I know there's a whole meme over grinding in SMT but I really like zoning out and grinding while watching shows or listening to music. It gives me something to do.
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I want off YHVH's wild ride.
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Is Overclocked that much better than the original DeSu? I want to play it, but I'd rather not spend the $80 necessary unless I plan on crawling through IV and IVA in the near future (which I don't).
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>>168632768
Yes it is.
>$80
Where the fuck do you live, Australia?
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>>168632409
more like, boring ride
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>>168632768
>$80
jesus fuck anon
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>>168632768
WHY HAVENT YOU HACKED YOUR 3DS?
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>>168631304
No i mean i'm worried i made a shit demon when i could've made a better one with a different demon
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>>168633610
Doesn't matter. That better demon would just be fused into something else in a few levels. Just focus on passing down useful skills.
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YHVH sucks
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>>168637217
Watch it, boy.
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>>168637720
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>>168632869
>>168633367
>>168633438
I don't have a 3DS
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>>168632768
original has no compendium
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>SMTIV lets you move the touch screen map freely without having to do anything else
>SMTIVA makes you click a little thing to be able to move it around
For what fucking purpose? I can't see a single benefit to this and it's just going to annoy the shit out of me the entire game.
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>>168639084
It pauses the game so demons won't attack you while you're looking at the map.
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>>168638932
I'm aware. I was wondering more if the auction was really that much more painful in addition to the other less polished aspects and if the story expansion was any good.
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>>168639480
Oh, I guess that's alright then. One of the most annoying things is low level demons just wasting you time when you're backtracking so I can live with that.
I kinda wish they did it like Youkai Watch, where they'll avoid you if you're too powerful but you can still battle them easily if you'd like. I hate being accosted by weak ass punks while I'm just trying to get around.
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SMT4: Part 3 when?
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>>168639763
Pretty sure there's an app for that
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>>168639874
Hopefully never. SMT IV needs and deserves to be forgotten. Nu-Odin can stay though.
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>>168638723
Then emulate it anon
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MT is a shitstain on SMT
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Anon is a shitstain on /smtg/
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>>168640228
The main concern is time, so I'd rather just be patient and play Overclocked when it becomes more economically viable to do so (i.e. Citra developers stop being faggots) unless it's not an adequately superior experience to the original DeSu.
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>>168640937
But Citra is free?
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Just finished Apocalypse with the bonds ending. Is it just me or was the entire game pretty easy? I think I could count my deaths on 1 hand.
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why is MT2 so underrated

it's not fair
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>>168640324
yeah the series should just be called Shin
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>>168641360
While that is true, it can only run ROMs decrypted through 3DS hardware and they refuse to implement a solution to this, as that would be harmful to the developers. It's somewhat understandable considering how many renowned fan projects have been shut down by Nintendo, although Dolphin, Cemu, and such have gone on fine.
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>You've received a new Challenge Quest!
>Heh, already completed...
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>>168642614
Fair enough anon, as much as I'd like to buy the game and play it legit, video games are just too expensive in my country
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Odin's voice is pretty bad baby.
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recarn
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Stop having friends.
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>>168648235
Fuck you old Dagda
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>>168648235
I don't have any friends, I don't depend on anyone else and I'm still a weakling. Explain this you potatonigger.
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>>168650701
>implying you are not depending on (You)s
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>>168651459
Do I look like a fucking newfag that has that cancerous feature enabled? Fuck you, don't ever reply to my posts again.
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>>168651607
(You)
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>>168650701
You don't depend on anyone but you also avoid challenges instead of struggling to overcome them. That's why you are weak.

>>168648235
No. I'm stronger with them.
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I'm right at the end of Nocturne, just about to fight Kagutsuchi and Lucifer for the TDE. I checked a guide and it said I should be level 99, but I'm only level 93. Will I be okay? I got Masakados and everything.
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>>168653926
You're fine. I beat lucifer at level 88 on hard mode with demons lower leveled than me
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>>168653926
As long as you have pierce on Demi and good support demons you'll be fine.
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>>168653926
You're fine. Kagatsuchi dies very quickly 80+, and It's exaggerated how hard lucifer is. I won first time at level 95 not knowing anything about lucifer with only freikugel + focus for damage.
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>>168654483
>>168654558
>>168654732
Nice, I could probably stand to do a bit better with support demons but I think I can manage.
Does focus boost freikugel? I never thought to try for some reason.
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>>168654901
Yes. when it crits at that level with focus you do next to 8000 damage i think. He'll go down quicker than you think, you just need to not get fucked over too hard and you'll keep up.
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>>168655089
*8000 with debuffs that is. It's a good idea to have taunt and 2 debilitate casters. Forget about attacking with anyone but demifiend.
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>>168655089
Just beat him, he was even easier than fighting the four deva. I never even buffed my side, just debuffed him a shit ton and he went down really easy.
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>>168626903

Knew you could do it.

>>168653926

The difficulty of that boss battle isn't as severe a Super Boss as you might come to think. On all accounts, as long as you have Pierce on all of your physical demons, then you should be a-okay.

If you don't and just have it on Demi-Fiend, then it's really just about keeping your cool and not doing something reckless while you Focus+Physical Attack. You can take him on easily at your level 60's to even 50's with as basic a strat as that (as well as all of your demon's getting neutered to support roles, but quite honestly, if you've gotten to that point by not sacrificially fusing the crap out of everything so you don't get fucked over, then it's a wonder how you even made it at all).
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>>168658935
Holy fuck I just beat Lucifer and I can finally unclench my asshole. I'm actually shaking a bit because of how tense it was and how cool the ending was. I'm so glad I went through all that trouble because that ending was just the coolest, and surprisingly satisfying for an SMT ending.
Also
>Capcom logo comes up and Dante appears in the background
Now I guess I'll play Raidou or IVA.
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>>168659251
>Raidou
>IV:A
Both of those games are complete good games.
Raidou combat is clunky, but worth it to play.
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>>168659251

Good job, Anon. He's easily a little bit overwhelming, but once you get situated with him, he's a breeze.

As for those two games, I'd recommend you stick to IV:A if you want to keep to the Press Turn system in Nocturne. There's a lot of fanservice in there, as well as a big design shift if you're a big fan of Take-Minakata's work, but the game itself is fun enough to play nonetheless.

Raidou is a really different approach: it's an action-rpg that gets to be about as big a button masher as you can get it in base game, but it mixes it up later to turn something surprisingly clunky into something really fun. There's still some bad in there, but I had a blast with it.
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>>168660176
>>168660534
I think I'll just play both at the same time. I finished IV recently enough that it's fresh in my mind, but I also don't want to get too bogged down on turn based combat. I've been dying to play the Raidou games since I can remember, they were arguably what got me interested in SMT in the first place.
I saw the collector's edition of Raidou 2 at a game store when it came out and the aesthetics really drew me in. 8 years later and I finally bought that collector's edition along with the first game and strategy guide. I haven't been this excited over games since I was a kid, and it feels so good.
I've probably told this dumb story a long time ago here, so I apologise for the repeat.
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IVA is shit
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>>168661069
Don't bother with neutral on raidou 2. chaos give you all the NG+ bonuses and going law gives you a complete different ending on your second run unlike neutral that gives you the same ending as chaos with some minor changes in some lines.
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>>168662012
this but replace IVA with SMT
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>>168662062
People complain about SMT games punishing you for not going neutral, but Raidou 2 punishes you pretty hard for not going chaos.
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SMT if... is coming!
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>>168665106
Before or after the Alpha translation?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKYIfOUmd9I
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Hoy
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>>168668817
STOP USING AGI ON DEMONS THAT NULL OR ABSORB FIRE YOU CHOASSPERG
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>>168669660
whens the meetup
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>>168669669
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susano-o-o
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toot toot
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Hi, /smtg/. I have a problem that's not directly related to Megaten games/manga, but I don't think /v/ or /pg/ know enough about Megaten to help me out.

I know that this is going to sound incredibly autistic, but I cannot function in social settings unless I imagine myself as a Megaten character. No, I don't go around saying "Hee-ho!" or try to summon demons or anything. I just feel myself with the overall demeanor of a Megaten character. I can pass off as a normie well with this.

I choose Megaten characters that already compliment my personality. My main 3 are Demi-fiend (When I'm feeling quiet but confident), YHVH (When I'm feeling a bit smug/cocky) and Nanashi (When I'm feeling a bit edgy). I also have a rotating list of Megaten characters that I can use. I've done Jack Frost, Yuriko, Metatron, Magatsu-Izanagi, Oni, Angel, etc...

But my problem is, I have a late valentines party with my co-workers tonight, and I'm not sure which Megaten character I should be. I want to be a bit more outgoing and talkative than usual, but not TOO much. I had a bad experience with Mastema this spring, when I got a bit TOO confident, so I don't want to use him. I'd like to try a SMTIV:FINAL character, but I'm not sure which once. I like Cleopatra, but I feel like she would make me come across as an autist. I was actually thinking about Raidou, but his chances of being in a new game hurts him a bit.

Do you guys have any ideas for a Megaten character that would be sociable and confident, but not too much so?
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>>168675459
Jirae Knocker
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>>168675459
try hero because he's dead
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>>168675459
Cielo
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>>168675459
>I was actually thinking about Raidou, but his chances of being in a new game hurts him a bit.
This hurts me more than you know.
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>>168675459
Navarre. Or a happier Flynn after the end of SMT IV:A. Also screencapped for posterity. And I'd pay to see you when you were channeling YHVH.
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>>168676368
I've done navarre before, it was before FINAL came out and it really didn't go well...
I guess I could try FINAL navarre.
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>>168576541
Pls respond
>I really want to play the original SMT, what version should I pick? Ideally I'd like the Android version (don't own an iPhone) but I don't know if there's a translation patch for it.
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>>168675459
>literal kin
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>>168676615
If you don't have an iPhone, then you gotta play the fan translated SNEA version.
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>>168676518
FINAL Navarre after he gets so much better he *almost* passes on would seem good to me.
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What build should I go for in Raidou? Does it even matter?
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>>168679723
str
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I want to fuck Dagda
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The fuck you looking at? Keep scrolling.
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>Can't get Raiho until your 2nd cycle
For what purpose?
Also Raiho in mainline games when? Demoneeho needs a partner in crime. I hope SMT HD has some Raidou armour or something at least, even if it's DLC.
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>>168676518
At least use a clearer smug Kazuya pic.
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>>168675459
Soul Hackers's MC always seemed like a friendly yet confident, smuggy guy.
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So is there a canon ending to Devil Survivor or is 2 not at all connected to the previous game?
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>>168691112
No canon ending nor an connection at all to DeSu 2.
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>>168688801
>Kazuya
Abel, idiot.
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>>168679723
LUCK
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Well that was weird.
The final boss being the save terminal from nocturne was hilarious though.
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Are there any differences between the JP and NA release of SMT IV Apocalypse? I heard that YHWH was censored but I also heard it's that way in the JP version too. Anything else?
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>>168693664
poo in the loo Enlightenment trite don't worry about it and move on too what REALLY matters which is the eternal dick measuring contest of Satan and record scratch
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Wake up
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>>168698485
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>>168693960
No. YHVH was not censored.
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>>168693960
Its not censored you idiot. Its blocked out on purpose as a stylistic choice.
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thanks treehouse
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I've bought SMT: Lucifer's Call on PSN without realising about the TDE bug. Is there a known fix for it yet?
>>168562171
What's wrong with 11.3? I updated my N3DS XL to 11.3 and it wouldn't turn on correctly, but it was because I didn't have Luma on it.
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I let the dragons out.
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New SMT with Varg as one of the reasons a la mishima-gotou when
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>>168705172
Never.
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SMT x thulean perspective
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I'm in the sun in DDS2, about to beat Ravana, colonel Beck, whatever his name is. What level should I be against the final boss? My party is on level 55 on average, I should be ok for the skills I need against Meganada and the big train but I want to be sure I'm not too underleveled.

Also, DDS1 and 2 are really fun, I wish I had a PS2 before to play them earlier.
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>>168707598
iirc my main 3 party members were around level 62 or something. I made some last minute AP grind for some extra skills though so you probably can finish it with lower levels.
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>>168707598
I beat the game on level 60 ish. I didn't even have Mediarahan on any character. Beat the final boss first try, but it wasn't exactly easy. The second last boss took a bunch of tries, though.

Personally I liked the games, but I feel like they get outclassed by almost every other SMT game out there.
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Reminder that the White weren't right.
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>>168684308
Doesn't Persona 5 have a Raidou outfit?
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>Gain the power of Bel
>Get literally nothing
At least give me a level or something
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>>168712992
You get a new race and more movement range.
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>>168713204
So far I've killed Beldr, Belial and Jezebel and I only got +3 speed
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>>168713310
Really? Maybe you get it after you beat the route.
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>>168708276
>>168708480
Ok, I think I should be fine, I just need to get dekaja on at least one character instead of using dekaja as a fusion skill and maybe more skills to null ailments and I should be ok. I just beat Ravana btw. I think I'll beat the game this weekend then.
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>>168713682
Remember to spread out Drain or Null skills for all elements throughout your party for the final boss.
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Hello SMTG. What is your favorite SMT from the SMT franchise?
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>>168715005
Mainline, Nocturne
Spin-offs, DDS
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>>168715005
SMT is my favorite SMT from the SMT franchise
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>>168693960
Today I will remind them
https://youtu.be/mDj9XPX0Das
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>>168715005
Out of what I've played so far, a tie between Nocturne and IV.
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>>168472696
A miserable pile of misery
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>>168713442
I hope so, got Belzaboul too and no change in stats
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>>168714749
I'll do that soon, I hope the drain skills can be enough if I can't grind for everyone.
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>>168715005
If I really had to pick one, I'd pick _IV_ solely for the atmosphere and music.

I love DDS and SMT I though. As well as DeSu 1.
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He spawns and one shots the last Frost to transform

I can't believe I have to redo this.
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>>168480954
hoy
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>>168715282
I went with just some Drains and a couple of Nulls and did fine.
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>>168715005
Nocturne and I are my fave SMT.
DeSu 1 and Soul Hackers are cool too. DDS sucks.
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>>168542475
I cringed so hard I opened a portal to the expanse.
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who let the demons out
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>>168716007
I did, Kojiro.
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>>168715746
Yamato pls
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>>168715005
Megami Tensei II
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FUCKING GIRLS
WHY WONT THEY LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE
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>>168715005
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
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>>168718093
gay
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U p d a t e w h e n ?
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>>168720969
lol___
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>>168721193
Don't play with my emotions.
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God damn I do not remember anything about SMTIV maybe I should replay it before playing Apocalypse.
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does anyone have that drawing of a nocturne battle but it looks like P3
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Guys help I don't want to kill Toki but I also don't want to side with this bitch Nozomi/Wooden tiddies.
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How should I build my dude in soul hackers?
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>>168726568
meat wall
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>>168726665
So, go full defense?
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>>168723669
Have her be your goddess then.
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>>168727126
12 int, then max VIT, then LUK
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>>168727257
Thanks.
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/smtg/ stinks.
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>>168727721
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>>168727721
At least I'm not ugly, ugly.
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>>168727257
There is no vit. Is en what I'm looking for?
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>>168727721
It was probably me. Sorry.
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>>168727868
Prove it, loser.
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>>168728047
Don't post pics of my boyfriend.
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>>168728047
>no face
You first
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>>168728164
>implying you need face with the body this godlike
Its okay, you can just post your own torso, virgin.
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Here's the part where you guys get all gay again.
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Stop searching in-depth analysis of Nocturne on Youtube already, silly anon.
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>>168729758
Grandma clothes
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>>168729991
Are the warmest and comfiest.
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What his end game?
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Nanashi is the strongest MC of all time as far as game strengh potential goes.
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>>168730185
He's also non-canon.
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>>168730096
Hijacking The Great Will.
Screencap.
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>>168730252
shut up you. he's technically canon
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>>168730096
Acting on behalf of the Axiom.
Actually now that I think about it is it our fault that YHVH is so corrupt?
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What's a good build for nemissa?
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>>168730787
Sexy full Ma biribiri
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>>168730954
Thanks. Should I dump points into anything else along the way?
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>>168730787
Cheerful!
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>>168731126
Agility.
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Do you want vocals for battle music in V?
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>>168731483
No and keep Meguro off it.
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>>168729758
>>168729991
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>>168731483
only if it's whisper
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Megidolaon or Ice Age for Mastema?
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>>168731648
>implying Yamai will allow Meguro to write music for mainline ever again while Koduka is alive
Haha.
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>>168731483
Vocal versions are fine, but I don't think I want them all the time. Maybe when a certain requirement is met, or a low chance of getting it.
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>>168731261
Thanks.
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>>168731853
Since the teaser looks very Nocturnesque, it got me concerned. Hopefully, you're right. Koduka is the man.
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>>168731805
Please respond I'm getting tired of the level up track.
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>>168732248
>using almighty
>ever
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>>168731483
YES
Nocturne Butt rock please
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>>168732481
I use almighty all the time. What's wrong with that?
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>fanmade SH games
>fanmade MGS games
>fanmade something something games
>no fanmade SMT games
Why
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>>168733972
You're pussy.
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>>168734146
There is literally nothing wrong with magic nuking everything into oblivion
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>>168734007
There's that Yamato dating sim
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nozomi shot glass
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why does dagda wear the 4chan logo? was that a nod to us for our support over the years?
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>>168735453
He shitposts on /x/
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>>168715391
Frost Five? I don't remember them being in DeSu2
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>>168735830
RB
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>>168735642
x doesn't exist anymore
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>>168734007
Technically, eraMegaten exists.

I recall another one that was shit, I think it had something to do with Pokemon or whatever.
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When is our fiend coming back?
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>tfw your dad tries to connect with you and build knowledge of your hobby by playing your video game while you're in the shower but accidentally deletes your save files in the process
t-thanks dad, i wasn't 60 hours into the game or anything
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>>168740270
>not backing up your saves on 25 floppy disks buried in the back yard
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>>168740270
What a fucking asshole. Move out.
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Which Megaten protag do you like best, /smtg/?
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>>168740505
anonymous
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>>168740505
Demi-fiend, all he wanted was to show his teacher his cool new jacket but ended up going an adventure that made him strong enough to rival god
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>>168740505
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>>168740505
Serph. Tatsuya is a close second.

Maya is the worst. Don't get me wrong, I love her, but as a supporting character. Not as a protagonist.
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>>168740505
You already posted him.

I like Hacker too.
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Should I buy DeSu2 or Apocalypse?
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>>168743252
if you played IV already then Apocalypse
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>>168743252
there's literally no reason for you not to hack your 3DS
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>>168744579

>That tamer in IV who can't keep a straight face upon summoning him
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>>168727257
>int
For what fucking purpose?

>>168727941
Endurance.
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>>168744579
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>>168744579
Mara plushie when
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Well I just beat apocalypse

Great game but holy shit it did not know when to end

Don't think I'll ever replay it because that shit dragged
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>>168747731
>Great game
Get the fuck out
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>>168747731
when do you feel it should have ended appropriately?
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>>168747731
I was never annoyed by its length. I don't get this meme.
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>>168748084
Not him but it is a great game, from a gameplay standpoint.
Almost EVERYTHING to do with the writing was a flop, but the game itself is real good.
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>>168748776
2 ez
only thing that got me was Krishna and his gay ailment spam, so i switched off navarre and use hallelugay.
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>>168720969
gideon posted an update on his twitter like 1-2 weeks ago
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>>168749106
I played it on the Apocalypse difficulty first and found it to be the most engaging and difficult combat in the series, and I've always played SMT games on their hardest settings first.

I can certainly see it being easy on lower settings, but it's really fantastic on Apoc.
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>>168740505
this guy

he has a robot hand
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>>168490070
Navarre died cause he fell into a river while jacking off with his pants around his ankles and drowned.
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>>168490146
>>168749667
I took this as him hiding the real reason why he died. Everything else he said hinted at suicide.
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>>168749667
isabeau must be hot as fuck naked
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Is the Nocturne Hard Mode mod worth playing? What's it like?
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>>168750228
a load of horseshit
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>>168741354
Yeah best girl turning silent was a step down from IS. I missed Eikichi and Ginko too.
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>>168751990
thats me
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>>168751990
http://myfigurecollection.net/item/549508
>when they make figmas of personas but not actual characters
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>mfw changing difficulty to easy for YHVH

if the game cheats I'm going to cheat too watch me give a fuck
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>>168752105
I'm gonna fuse you with a slime.
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>>168751990
I will never understand the appeal of figmas.
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>>168752163
Wow
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>>168751990
cute!
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>>168752551
amazing
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>>168752189
Pff, look at this fucking casual.
Even being able to change the difficulty means you're not Apocalypse, babby.
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>wonder why apocalypse has been ridiculously easy
>find out conflict was easy mode in JP release
fuck man. is there even any point in amping it up now? I'm already on cosmic egg five
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>>168752708
Is there any SMT game where hard mode doesn't just mean more grinding?

Serious question
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What smt game is most similar to SMT II, the greatest rpg of all time?
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>>168752832
YHVH was literally the only boss I had to grind for, which is fine considering he's the final boss.
Just be sure to use all the options available to you, and I do mean ALL. Constantly low on MP items.
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>>168753064
we've actually played the games so we know the SMT II meme is full of shit
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>>168752551
>>168752163
>cool, a naoto reference
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>>168752350
People saw rapeface Woody and wanted to take their own funny pictures.
>>
>Kill Belberith with a single Force Dance
I guess I was expecting it to have more HP
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>>168754909
Random spell damage skills have been way too good in pretty much every game. I've only seen DDS 2 somewhat address that by moving light random to mid tier mantras and moderate random to high tier, and even then explode/jupiter's fury etc. were too good.

In a way it's dissapointing. I remember smt games being unforgiving from when i was like 14, which was the most fun thing about them, but coming back to finish the ones i haven't played and replaying some everything is easy when you know what you are doing. Really only early game is enjoyable because you cant cheese anything.
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>>168466686
>worst character in 4
>only good character in apocalypse
What went wrong?
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>>168757359
Heard you were talkin shit
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>>168757676
garage kits?
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>>168749217
Oh, wow, you weren't lying. Thanks man.
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>>168741284
Something extremely satisfying about sitting on the throne in a maid costume.
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>>168731483
Fuck no. That's one of the main reasons I've never been able to get into Persona.
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>>168757359
>worst character in 4
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Oh Jesus, SJ came out 8 years ago. It feels like it came out 30 years ago.
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>>168736281
Fuck you, you made me check.
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Fuck, Babel is fucking bullshit
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>>168759510
He may not have been the worst one since he only appears around 1% of the game, but he was a jerk and a failure.
>>
>>
I have no dreams or hopes for a brighter future anyway.
>>
devil survivor
nocturne
persona 1

what do play next
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>>168762713
Nocturne
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>>168762713
shortest to longest
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>>168762982
which is the shortest
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>>168763050
https://howlongtobeat.com/
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>>168744579
>>168746608
This is trending on moon twitter.
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smt x yugioh
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SMT x Kamen Rider
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>>168762713
You shouldn't be allowed to post here without finishing nocturne. Nocturne.
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>>168765641
does demon end count
>>
So where could SMTV possibly go after the ending of IV:A? YHVH is gone for good it seems, as he's slowly slipping out of the minds of humans and all the other gods are dead. Yes, every game is a separate universe and he's been defeated before, but this time it seemed like it'd change everything.

>inb4 Apolcayse is not canon
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>>168766231
You're autistic
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>>168766231
Peace ending was canon and SMTV is set so far in the future that He's back and even more of an asshole than ever.
>>
>>168766231
Apocalypse is not canon, but it is also canon.
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>>168766093
why wouldnt it
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>>168766231
Apoc ruins the canon.
Its not canon.
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https://discord.gg/BykvH

Come, warriors of light
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>>168740270
60 hours? You can get back up to that point in a week maximum. Get out you casual.
>>
https://www.rabb.it/U4ick
SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI
>>
Why do people keep calling FINAL not canon? Isn't it supposed to be "what really happened", hence the title?
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>>168766454
>Peace ending was canon
neck yourself bondbabbler
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>>168769696
It's an alternate universe that splits when Nanashi dies. In Flynn's universe, Nanashi refuses the deal and dies, while Apocalypse has him accept it
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>>168767827
gay server
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>>168769858
why wouldn't he accept 99 out of 100 times
IV seems more noncanon
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>>168769810
Calm your tits Anon, it was a suggestion of how YHVH could come back for 5.
I would never betray Dagda's teachings.
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>>168769696
Nothing is set in stone.

And technically, everything that happens in SMT can be canon, even your MC dying to some mobs in your first encounter like in the Stephen DLC.
It is only up to ATLUS to choose whether they'll make a game around certain timeline or not.
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>>168769880
your gay
>>
I never see nips obsessing over the concept of canon like westerners do
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>>168769909
Because Dagda makes it very clear that Nanashi is gonna nothing but his puppet.

From a player perspective it obviously makes a lot of sense to accept Dagda's deal. But I'm sure everyone would hesitate if a spooky skeleton man offered to revive you in exchange of becoming his slave.
>>
Reminder to report chatroom advertising.
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>>168770240
k
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>>168748776
Nah, it becomes really linear and shallow with its restrictions right from the beginning. Skill slots make sense from the standpoint of balance, but infringes the freedom of choice at the same time, it feels like game tries to shoehorn certain demons in my roster, and you certainly can't spend your app point on anything before buying slots - otherwise you're fucked and its bullshit. Karn nullifyiers are pure bullshit, three-icons bosses with karn nullifyiers are bullshit, lelsorundom ailment-attacks are bullshit, Vishnu first form is bullshit, Branes are lazy bullshit, smirkcentrism of entire battle mechanics is bullshit, YHVH 2.0 is bullshit.

No freeze statuses anymore, no shock statuses anymore, every elemental attack is dmg-only varicoloured pomf now. Companion feature is okay in the beginning, becomes bullshit in the lategame.

>'Finally I'll be useful to my friends!!'
>proceeds to spam True Bufudyne instead of fucking Endures

Fucking joke of a mechanic. Physical friends are absolute useless garbage, Nozomi seems so useless I never actually used her for once. Lategame looks more like Fire Emblem RNG-kusogeimu than Megaten. No replayability for shit. Dungeons layouts are lazy as fuck (lets make 'em wider, lol!!), resource management is still non-existant since original IV, because of regenerating apps.

Its a trainwreck even from the gameplay perspective. Its oversimplified shadow of the SMT. Its not a very bad game, but its not even okay as everybody tries to suggest here, even from the standpoint of the gameplay its very mediocre and disappointing.

And I'll never forgive them for raping glorious IV's plot with this cheap-ass Final's moeshit garbage instead of actual story.
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Hey anons, if there were the chance for non-demon characters to be made into figures, who would you want to see?
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>>168770121
her gay
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>>168766231
YHVH is just an avatar of the Great Will you dufus. There are shitloads of YHVHs in every other world.
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>>168770761
Demifiend or Stephen
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>>168770761
Chiakey
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>>168770571
Can you write a book about Nocturne and IV? Or at least a brief opinion. Curious to see what you have to say.
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>>168770761
Koromaru
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>>168771027
Do Purse Owners count? In that case, Fuuka
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>>168770879
It already exists.
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>>168771237
They probably mean non-prize.
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>>168770761
I want to hot-glue Argilla.
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>>168771526
http://myfigurecollection.net/item/55624

I personally hope for a Kazuya fig someday. Or a character in 'If...', which I've actually seen someone do a custom for Tamaki.
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>>168770962
Too much coffee for now, sorry. And I can't write down things in english straight from the head for shit, as you can see.

But I am about to do some tism-induced detailed in-depth review for every particular installment on Youtube sometime from now on. So if one day you'll see long-ass SMT review on tube, with some slavic sperg mumbling about shit behind the curtains like a pseudointellectual snob - that's probably will be me. I'll try to provide subtitles for this shit tho. Just need to finish treating my room for good quality recording.

You can laugh.
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I want a persona 1 figure based on this image
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>>168767827
Server invite is expired. Do you guys actually talk about vidya, or is it just another place for you guys to be gay with each other?
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>>168772906
It's a meme, ya dip.
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>>168773000
Dope, now once Discord gets its shit together and stops throwing me into voice chats everything will be fine.
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>>168772396
How would one model the mirage?
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>>168772307
Shelling out for a quality mic before you even start seems tricky.
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>>168773795
Well, its not like I won't be able to afford buying myself helium tank afterwards, so its okay.
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hee ho
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>>168731483
Maybe if there aren't dialogues at the time like in the Persona games starting from 3. It makes the music annoying instead of good.
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>>168733612
>Butt rock
Not butt rock. Do some research before you throw terms like that around.
A list of actual buttrock for reference: Creed, Nickelback, God Smack, Five Finger Death Punch, Seether, Bush, Puddle Of Mudd, Staind, and whoever made the guilty gear xrd main theme.
>>
What is the Dark Souls of SMT?
>>
>>168782650
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqTIEfHyKfo
so does that mean DS music is butt rock?
>>
Which SMT game do you wanna see adapted into an anime? How many episodes should it be?
>>
>>168785591
DDS or Persona 2.
52 episodes with two OPs and four EDs animated by late 90's Madhouse or modern day DEEN
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>>168785591
Strange Journey, and as few episodes as possible without missing anything important.
With one filler episode helping that one NPC with his demon woman problems.
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>>168785591
4A, two-cour splitting up right after you beat Krishna, following the Peace route
Anarchy is a high budget movie that begins at the decision
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>>168749815
Why would you make up a story about dying masturbating? There was no hint at suicide at all. The point was that he was pathetic and it was a pathetic death.
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>>168753239
Huh? That's what someone who hasn't played them would say.
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>>168766231
Are you retarded? The game never implied that this effects anything outside of its one universe. If anything, nocturne is the game that made it seem like it might. And the answer was no: whatever happened was limited to some limited scale.
>>
Someone remake raidou with the traditional battle system please
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>>168731483
If we can get Albert back, sure.
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>>168754221
That was on the Sukuna-Hikona video, right? That triggered me so fucking hard.
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LEWD
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>>168788970
To make people laugh
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>>168785591
I don't want to see anything in particular butchered.
>>
Have you guys tried Nocturne hardtype?
>>
>>168791479
why
>>
>>168799997
to make it good
>>
aside from the fact that his path allows you to murder your friends, why does everyone here pick Dagda's route? What makes him any different from the Divine Power's?
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>>168800670
Muh wind.
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#X FULL VERSION FUCKING WHEN
WINK WINK DEBUT ALBUM FUCKING WHEN
REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>168800670
there is no way to side with the divine powers, so his route is the closest way to break the status quo with a new universe
>>
SMT x isekaishit
>>
>>168800670
>why does everyone here pick Dagda's route?
Because he's too hard for them to beat on Bonds.
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>>168800670
So humanity doesn't rely or bend over for the gods.
That sounds pretty good to me.
>>
>>168512684
>>168513319
You mean getting a 2DS and then hacking it to pirate all the 3DS SMT games?
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>>168802671
I for one would be glad to live under the guidance of a god.
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>>168802671
yeah but absolute equity isn't really ideal either. way he's talking all existing God's will transition into nature, while all humans become godlike. to me, that just sounds like some chaos variant bullshit.
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>>168801148
But he's easy as fuck to beat.
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>>168803284
and another thing, the Divine Powers are at least bringing over the existing human race into their universe. Dagda makes it sound like only Nanashi will be in his universe in the beginning.
>>
do you ever actually stop getting stronger after a certain point in SMT IVA? I keep dropping points in magic.
>>
>>168805372
No, go wild.
>>
NO WAR
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Happy 25th, /smtg/! Enjoy your 3DS project!

https://www.amazon.fr/Shin-megami-tensei-Persona-Nintendo/dp/B0045Y19Y8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1487507761&sr=8-3
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>>168806695
If this turns out to be the 3ds project I'm gonna kill myself again. This time for real.
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>>168803127
YHVH is an asshole though.

He is willing to obliterate entire countries or more just because some nerd summoned a demon in his basement.
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>>168806695
Good try, but Persona is japanese, not french.
>>
what the hell am I supposed to do with HP MP and STR incense
>>
>>168807136
Use them.
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>>168807136
give them to your waifu
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>>168807218
when?
>>
Finally beat Babel, fucking tower
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>>168807653
what difficulty
>>
>>168806943
If an old man doesn't want kids to get off his lawn he's no old man I'd trust.

If a god doesn't get pissed about a summoning in his basement he's no god I'd trust.
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>>168807691
Normal
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>>168807410
Depends on the game. Some incenses give you full HP recovery which is a nice backup, but if you're playing IV:A, then there's no reason to don't use them on Nanashi right away; maybe just keep around a few to give them to your endgame party.
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>>168807918
>aw fuck some kid is on my lawn I MUST NOW STEAL THE AMERICAN NUCLEAR LAUNCH CODES TO DESTROY EARTH
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>>168808093
Awe, true to YHVH.
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50 Shades of SMT
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>>168806695
doujin game?
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>>168808736
probably.
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New
>>168808845
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>>168785591
P2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPIo5k2Zqu8
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>>168806695
TOLD YOU HAHAHAHAHAHAH
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