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Sasha Edition

Previously on /wfg/: >>168362028

>READ the pastebins BEFORE asking stupid questions
GENERAL FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wyz3Ye1g
Additional FAQ, SERIOUSLY, READ THIS ONE: http://pastebin.com/GHStmm22

>How to join Warbros No Fun Allowed, if it wasn't full: http://i.imgur.com/RMS2guW.png
>Avoid the line, join the /wfg/ alliance today! PM killsaw of Warbros NFA for inquiries


>Notable links
Essentials: http://deathsnacks.com/wf/index.html
Focus System: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Focus
Buying and Selling items: https://warframe.market
News: https://forums.warframe.com/forum/170-news-events/
Raid Setups and individual Builds:
Warframe Raid Schoolbus: Hide your power lvl and follow the rules: https://discord.gg/aUTTyWH
THE LAW OF RETRIBUTION: http://pastebin.com/dMMdZRpY
THE JORDAS VERDICT: http://pastebin.com/NLPSMBed
Damage 2.n: http://i.imgur.com/AFVavTs.jpg
Droptables and Data: https://github.com/VoiDGlitch/WarframeData
DPS calculator and weapon build planner: https://github.com/GottFaust/WWDC/releases/tag/0.8.2 (not maintained)
Top guns, read note at the bottom: http://i.imgur.com/DZc7JO4.jpg
Tierqueer Filters: https://git.io/vMhaS
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CURRENT UPDATE: The Glast Gambit
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/738152-the-glast-gambit-update-195/
CURRENT PRIME ACCESS: Valkyr
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/723544-the-war-within-1907-valkyr-prime/
Older stream footage: http://pastebin.com/LkZRPteU
liestream highlights: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Livestreams
For specific liestream highlights, use http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Devstream_## (replace ##)
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/wfg/ OP pastebin, if it's not like this one report it and make a proper one: http://pastebin.com/iAgtMahh
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first for mesa
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Froggos.
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What Syndicate will Bardframe's quest linked to?
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>>168443996
Dial up robot
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>he uses animation sets other than the base frame's animations!
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>>168443996
Gotta be Arbiters or Suda. Jews, Hippies, and Waifubait have all been used so far.

>>168444107
Agility Ivara on every single frame.
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>>168443990
Yes
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>>168444107
>not only using classic excal on everything
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>>168444107
>he is bad at fashion frame
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if you do not reply to this post with "Thank You Based Faven" your favorite frame will be forever without fashion
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>>168444152
>Gotta be Arbiters or Suda
it could also be edgekids
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>>168444346
Thank you based Faven
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>>168444386
I highly doubt Red Veil want anything to do with a frame that dances.
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>>168444346
make a grineer mask for rhino faven
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>>168444152
It's Suda, we've been told already
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>>168444346
that is a fucking disgusting color scheme wtf are you thinking
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>>168444440
Not like it really has to be thematically appropriate. The jew syndicate gives you the infested frame.

Also has meridian been linked to a frame quest? I thought it was just the arena shit.
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>>168444440
I highly doubt New Loka want anything to do with a frame that orokins
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>>168444480
your favorite frame will now forever be without fashion
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Cheshire knows what the fuck is up. Hell yes, I love this Saryn skin.
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>>168444657
Good point.

New Quest is the Red Veil help you discover birdframe, and are disgusted it doesn't light anything on fire.
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>>168444346
Ugly Frame Faven
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>>168444346
thank you based faven

thank god for that helmet fix
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>>168444674
Why would you pay money to end up looking like that
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>>168444657
>I highly doubt Nw Loka want anything to do with a frame

That Orokins is implified automatically.

Either way though DE has confirmed Bard is paired with Suda the day they said it'd be syndicate related at all, months ago.
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>>168444657
I'm pretty sure the silver grove wasn't what they thought it was and thus the frame was involved
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>>168444152
>Waifubait
Steel Meridian has a warframe quest?
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Is a Volt built for Capacitance and crowd control welcome in Berehynia, Hieracon etc farming groups?

I really wanna play Volt and do more than just speedrun shit, but I get the impression people would rather have almost any other frame in their group.
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>>168445176
so I can make you think it looks like shit I guess
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The guy that wanted the Miter Riven still here?

Sorry for the wait. I'm booting up the game.

Message me. Doctor_Darling
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>>168445379
I don't mind a Volt coming along
I like some eye candy while I play
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>>168445342
They had the rathuum event for saryn. It's not a quest, and it doesn't have a new frame but it's close enough for DE to count it.
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>>168444440
>we will purge by the fires of the dance
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>>168445379
haha no

Overload is subpar at best, and you have a very poor understanding of Bere if you think it needs CC or Capacitance

http://pastebin.com/rSmHFVTG

check the guide
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leather looks nice
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i level up my frames and weapons at Ani on the void :D
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beep beep, superior mesa fashion coming through, tennogen walletwarriors need to jump off a cliff
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>>168445627
to be fair you get normal saryn parts from kela
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Do you guys use any sites for inspiration on what to color your warframes? I'm not at all that imaginative and would like either suggestions for valkyr prime or a site.
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>>168445958
some frames have fucked up color patterns, so I try to simplify them by using only two colors.
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>>168445873
Similar colors to mine
But I got the helmet for plat
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>>168445873
On the one hand, Mesa Graxx is hideous. On the other hand, so is this.
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its skull-able too if you are willing to sacrifice the helmet HUD

>>168445873
>edgelord sigil
>mustard yellow
>clan emblem
yeah no
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>>168446084
I do that too. I also try to use real life as well. In example, my Trinity is main white with red highlights because she's a healer. But with a berserker, I'd figure red on white would be a decent choose considering blood all over.
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how do i conclave ?
i get rekt in 5 secs and that cancer movement
any cheese strats other than nyx bolts + rubico ?
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>>168446319
Or white on blue cause when she goes into hysteria, she jumps like sanic.
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>>168446456
>i get rekt in 5 secs and that cancer movement

now you know how the grineer feel!
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>>168446456
>run around and collect energy
>press 4
>collect kills
much hard
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>>168446508
>sonic
>not screw attack
kys
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>Still no bardframe


Fucking DE. No one buys these skins and only autists care about the new prime toggle.
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>>168446940
>expecting bard frame this month
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>>168447089
At this pace I don't, but before it seemed like she was coming along fine and was almost ready for release.
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physics on mesa helmet are messed up. they are always pulled down, even when you are jumping
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>>168446731
She was a close second for me actually. I'm just not a huge fan of orange.
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>>168446456
Go fast
Kill people good
Don't die
Don't somehow topscore in a free for all only using the Tekko
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Thanks again for the trading, Anon. Nice to get rid of that Miter riven.
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>>168443990
Where is the frog anon that gifted a bunch of shit past christmas?
did he die
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>>168444346
This is really ugly man.

I would like to buy Mesa GRAXX but
>No Content Update
I'm not that much of a shill, where is the fucking major update and Burpframe?
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>>168448114
He's been busy. I've chatted with him a few times in game. He usually only announces himself when he gifts things. He's probably still here.
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Can't seem to sell anything but Rivens and Syndicate melees anymore, even cheap. Is Prime farming dead?
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>>168448536
Who cares about Warframes when you can just bind slide attacks to your mouse and crit 800k per slide
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>>168447815
there is always zero suit
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naked frames when, they are starting to get the right idea with ash and frost deluxe.
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>>168448353
I see
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>>168443831
i hate sasha, she should die
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>>168448969
Naked frame that's just a frame that removed their armor to reveal their grotesque knotted up infested innards when
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Bullet Dance or High Noon?
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>>168449356
Don't worry. Just take her past level 30 enemies.
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>>168449486
But isn't Nidus out already?
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>>168449561
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>>168448761
That's an excellent suggestion. Thanks.
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>>168449356
Sasha and the lotus cat are objectively the worse things to come out of the community.
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>Naramon Lens
fugg
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Reposting here:

After farming up an Argon Scope, I'd like to use it on some kind of weapon.
The problem is, after some basic googling, it doesn't seem that argon scope is particularly useful(?) on weapons? Especially with the effectiveness of 90% elemental mods.
Apparently argon scope isn't worth it for the Dread? But maybe on the SomaP?

Do you use Argon Scope (+Bladed Rounds) and for which weapon?
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>can't use loki immortal skin with regular loki skin on loki prime
I just wanted to move my mania cosplay over to my loki prime, but I guess I'll be keeping my regular loki for that.
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>>168449971
I only have used bladed rounds on my soma p and literally nothing else.

then I took it out because I become obsessed with having three elemental mods on every weapon i have.
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HIT MARKERS

FUCKING HIIIIIIIITTTTTTTT MAAAAAAAARKKKKKKKERRRRRRRRSSSSSSS

FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCK

WHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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Is it DE's endgame to make it so you'll eventually be able to see nothing at all?
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>>168450304
they were already there you blind fuck
the only changes were making them larger and making them move and making them yellow on a bodyshot
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>>168449971
No it's shit
Its primary competition was bladed rounds. Bladed beats it in raw DPS in nearly every case, so the only case where you would use argon is on slow-firing weapons like snipers where consistent crits are more important than the average damage. It could also work on weapons where you might use both bladed and argon.
But now, we have not only rivens but also primed cryo rounds. Both of those tend to be much better than argon. Crit weapons generally only have room for one mod between argon/bladed/cryo/riven, and argon is generally the worst of those 4.
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>>168449971
nope, argon scope is garbage

It was garbage before Rivens. With Rivens, there's even more competition for mod slots and even less reason to use memescope
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>>168450769
>>168445873
>>168445647
>>168444107
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>>168450854
>stealing memes
is there anything more pathetic?
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>>168450987
>is there anything more pathetic?
uhm yes?

you.
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>>168450769
>bpnpc finally manages to actually make the right argument about red crits
Well that's surprising.
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>>168450854
posting nyx
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>>168451129
that picture existed before rivens were a thing
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>>168451129
what are you even trying to imply? Argon scope sucks and redcrits are a meme
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>>168451260
>went from making a good argument to making a fucking retarded one
Well shit, there goes any respect I just gained toward him.

>>168451306
>redcrits are a meme
>argon scope is mathematically worse than bladed rounds
I wonder which of these is a good argument.
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>>168450987
>>168450854
who gets defensive over a 5+ year old /new/ meme
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>>168451401
both of them are objectively, mathematically correct arguments
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>>168450769
Argon Scope is better when only fighting one enemy
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>>168451765
>warframe
>fighting only one enemy
back to the simulacrum with you
and take off those fire rate only mods and put on shred, they aren't helping
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>>168451498
No they aren't because "Redcrits are a meme" doesn't fucking mean anything.

Try using actual words instead of fucktarded nonsense so people understand your actual point.
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Is it hard to reach Grand Master?
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>>168444107
i rather you do this than what you normally shitpost about.
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>>168451848
>warframe
>fighting only one enemy
capture
assassinate
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>>168451895
"Redcrits scale identically to regular crits. The ability to redcrit does not suddenly give you a massive boost in damage. Using shitty mods like argon scope/Critical delay/bad rivens in order to reach redcrit territory is stupid."

nigga I can't be assed to repeat that (along with the math) every damn time a retard spouts off about redcrits

"redcrits are a meme" - clean, simple, succinct
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>Chilling Reload
Why is this allowed?
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>>168452330
My Tigris Prime likes it.
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>>168451978
>dropping knowledgebombs on clueless shitters = shitposting
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>>168452263
the problem here isn't red crits at all
it's the mods and mod slots being limited
red crits are fine
argon scope is not because there are better mods than it
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>>168452445
this
if we had 10-12 mod slots they'd be okayish.
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>>168452396
I moreso meant your frivolous time wasting multi thread ruining arguments that you normally have.Which is probably what you are leading up to in this thread.
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The best part about this entire thing is that when I first posted on /wfg/ that argon scope sucked, SO MANY SHITTERS argued. Even after having the math shoved in their faces, they continued to throw bland, tepid comments like "you don't know what you're talking about" and "it's only theoretically, in-game argon scope is good."

Damn it feels good to be validated by history
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>>168452445
the problem is that shitters have a warped conception of what redcrits do. Mod limitations are only a peripheral concern.
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>>168452647
you are gonna die alone.
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>>168452647
I thought I filtered you cunt
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>>168452647
see >>168450854

you did exactly what the picture just said

"is there anything more pathetic?"
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>>168452263
"Redcrits are a meme" makes it sound like redcrits are worthless. Saying "The ability to redcrit does not suddenly give you a massive boost in damage" is fine.
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Reminder to always update your filters at the start of every new anime season.
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>>168452647
fuck off gaylord
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>>168452263
Red Crits are red, which makes them more edgy, and therefore more desirable. Checkmate.
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>>168453029
I don't filter anything though
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>>168452647
Can we please kick him out of Warbros
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>>168453037
>it's a "let's make a weapons chart without considering damage, TTK, or performance, instead using my own arbitrary unexplained criteria" episode
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Anyone know the droprate on Bullet Dance from Orokin sabotages?
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>>168453249
GO AWAY TIERQUEER
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I love you guys.
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>>168453218
Is Warbros still accepting new members?
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>>168453356
Literacy is a requirement, I recommend you reread the part of the OP detailing how to join.
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>>168453197
Hey, you do you, my dude.
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>>168453442
Reading is for fuccbois. I DEMAND that you tell me how to join NOW
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>>168453442
That's some high grade autism. I'll stick with my small clan with RL friends.
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>>168453585
>>168453609
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>>168453552
I like Liverslices. He's Opticool.
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>>168453552
>topgun
>better than tierlist
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>>168453552
P O T T E R Y
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>>168453609
>high grade autism
WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE
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>>168453356

Yes but it's full of nothing but autist faggots who started playing the game in 2016, long after Warbros stopped being #1.
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>>168453743
GO AWAY TIERQUEER
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>>168453743
clearly one of you faggots did something well, happens to be in the op
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>>168453505
I was going to write a long lost about how you shouldn't filter but I figured the longer my post the higher the chance of it getting filtered. So, I just want to say, kill yourself.
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>>168453685
Kay.
You are a faggot
Warbros is a fucking shit
Too much autism
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>>168454085
>How to join Warbros No Fun Allowed, if it wasn't full:
>if it wasnt full
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>>168453971
tier list/frame guide is also in the OP
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>>168450854
>Hey does anyone got some good nyx lewds
>i got you wfg senpai

100/10 tears of joys also saved.
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>>168454075
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>>168454171
>800 empty slots
>full
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>>168454171
Are you implying there isn't enough autism and you need to fill the autism meter up? Have you asked /v/?
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>>168453037
>That feeling when I feel for the Furis meme
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I'll get used to it
>Still resisting Mesa Graxx
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I just gave all of my clan's credits to my alliance with you, No Fun Allowed.

Will I be spared for the time being?
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>>168454417
The Furis got niche value

Only good to heal yourself, that's why it’s Furis + Winds of Purity
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>>168453743
TUMMY KISSU
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>>168452647
>muh average DPS as calculated by wfbuilder
>ignoring all the practical implications and use cases
>abusing math and twisting words to present opinion on results as critical and objective conclusion
fuck off, you colossal retard shitterking
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>>168454617
My main warframe is Nezha
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>>168454417
just for you bby
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>>168454417
Go back to d2g
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>168454184
clearly it isn't if it needs to be posted by the same person over and over again i don't think a single person uses it other than memes. for example
https://aww.moe/zf5897.webm
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>>168454691
>HE'S ACTUALLY DEFENDING ARGON SCOPE
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>>168454417
I'm gonna need sauce there, friend.
That's hitting a lot of things for me.
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>>168454857
wait wait wait, what?
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how exactly do the overall kill count leaderboards work? are they an old relic like "skill" before it got removed? I still can't believe that's gone, I remember having it at 100 and when I came back being crushed to see I couldn't raise it above 30 any longer
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>>168455039
Pugna from DotA
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>DE reworking Peace Maker into Trigun meet DMC when
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>>168455146
how illiterate can you be?

blacklisted.
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>>168454751
nigger Telos Akbolto is shit
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>>168455278
can you explain why without sperging and drawing attention to yourself like last time?
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>>168455256
same time DE reworks blade storm into some MGRR style bullshit, or just a dynamic target-hopping active ability that leaves behind clones

they can either do auto-aim/auto-target a whole room like old peacemaker and old blade storm, or make it tedious manual aiming with all the downsides of the previous forms, no in-between and nothing creative
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>>168454751
>Sancti Castanas
Wait, what? I thought they were shit. I sold them, fuck.
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>>168455278
>doesn't have cannonade
me either
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>>168455146
>No image

Son.
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>>168453442
I just wanted to know whether Warbros was full or not. A relatively new player, but I want to get into Dragon Key stuff.

>>168443831
IGN:Garm_2

A Sonnet

The days go by, then a month, then a year,
how long will I play without nerfs and shit changes?
For all DE's shit, one thing is most clear,
I'll never complete Vauban, or finish New Strange.

I winced when I thought on the hours gone.
I howled whilst I farmed for Nidus. Blind Rage!
O! To start Salvage at the eerie crack of dawn,
Only Neuroptics today. It's all a cage!

But getting on after a long day at work, I'm renewed.
After getting THAT to drop, commiseration and thanks.
/wfg/ shitposting and Saryn lewds,
Something I'd finally like to join, to be frank.

As many days that I think "I'll quit and go,"
there are more fellow faggots I guess I'll stay and know.
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>>168454465
you can toggle it, best of all worlds
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>>168450321
The worst part is if you lower the brightness, you will not be able to see fucking shit in the barely darker areas because everything in this game just blend together. Pretty much the whole game is dark as shit besides those NEON bright pieces of shit light that just blocks everything.

Fucking cunts added yet more noise on the screen so you can see you hit anything yet did not changed the transparency of the HUD that just blend with everything and you cant see shit, especially in snow levels. Sometimes its hard to see when someone is capping a point in interception due to how shit the contrast is, especially bad when you had to react half a second later because of the shit ping you get something.

More oppacity for the HUD and control of brightness for the FX when.
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>>168455335
>sperging and drawing attention to yourself like last time?
what did he mean by this?
I think you're confusing me with someone else, but whatever.
Aside from kinda decent damage there's nothing that makes Telos Akbolto worth using, they shoot projectiles with travel time, have no crit chance, no status chance, they don't even have a a gimmick that makes them fun, that's why I think they're shit.

>>168455363
dude area denial lmao
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>>168455278
save your breath, he's been told many times that telos akboltos (and akmagnus) are garbage, complete with OBJECTIVE, MATHEMATICAL PROOF, and he's ignored it in favor of his own shitty, unexplained weapons criteria. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

>>168455335
THE NUMBERS
THE DAMAGE
THE INFLATED DPS DUE TO FIRE RATE

ITS DAMAGE SUCKS, WHY ELSE DO YOU FUCKING THINK A WEAPON WOULD SUCK ASS?

holy fuck this isn't complicated you goddamn retard. Why make a guide for something you don't know jack shit about? It's like watching a child writing a textbook on quantum physics
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>>168455589
you had already fucked up and lost your chance.

also 7 seconds cypher time? how can you even do spy missions. blacklisted.
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>>168455589
You're already blacklisted m8. Don't act like we didn't see the first post
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>>168455467
yep I'm retarded
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>>168455335
Not the same guy but with aklex around, do we need a projectile semi-auto akimbo pistol?

The proc is nice but I don't think that's good enough.
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>>168450321
GIVE UNTO THE VOID
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Can the mutalist cerno's gas clouds crit? Was thinking of putting a crit and crit damage mod onto it if so instead of all element mods
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>>168455186
Thanks, will keep in mind, but was thinking is there any more of that specific image?
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>>168455589
Its Profile with Cipher stats over it

Blacklisted
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>get a discount
>-20%

i literally just bought two tennogen items and this is how the game repays me
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>>168455778
Yes
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>>168455682
>can you explain without sperging out
>posts this
so the answer to that is a no

stop reading my guide you weeb, you are getting it dirty
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>>168455682
>tell him not to sperg
>spergs anyway
__________kek
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>>168455834
Please give/link it
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guys what possible reason is there for a weapon not to be good? Don't strain yourselves too hard on this one.
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Is there any particular way to build the Redeemer or is it just stack damage and elementals?

Using Bullet Dance so I can chain shots on demand, that's the best stance right?
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>>168456018
again see this >>168450854
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>>168455861
nigger learn to read, i'm OP >>168455673
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>>168455256
>DMC

devil trigger frame
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>>168455783
>>168455715
>>168455707
Yeah, I tried, I guess. I'll just lurk for now, I suppose.
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Is it even possible to gift Tennogen
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>>168453197
filtering is for the Weak. Reddit Tier trash that grew up playing Gaia Online. their Feefees get triggered by names, tripcodes, pictures, and opinions they disagree with. lets hope they filter so thoroughly they erase themselves.
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>>168456678
>posting with a name/avatar-tier recycled images and webms
>on an anonymous board

it's like they're missing the point of an anonymous board.
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>>168456074
stack damage and use Loki/Ivara/Ash for stealth bonus, it can't crit or status for shit
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>>168455256
Why didn't the graxx skin get rid of the pouches ;_;

That's all I wanted

Instead it's barely a change from base mesa
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>>168443990
>>168444162
more
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>>168456882
/vg/ isn't anonymous

especially mmo generals
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>tell Tom Telos akbolto is shit
>he tells me to explain myself and not to sperg out
>I explain myself
>he ignores my post and responds to the sperg who posted after me
really makes u think
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What's the best mission for farming relics? I have up to Europa unlocked.
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>>168444346
>>168444674
>>168445873
>Mesa
>Shoulder Armor
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE[spolier]EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE[/spoiler]
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FUCK OFF
WITH THE FIELDRON

When can I side with the Infestation and get something actually worthwhile?
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>>168451942
Guys pls
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>>168457058
Full elemental or can I throw a slash on there too?
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>>168456882
>muh anonymity
>site lets you use names and tripcodes
>Why wont everyone be like me!!!! Heretics!!

seems like you're missing the point to a board that allows you to post anonymously.
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best quick-attacking status-based melee with good range?

or am I stuck with the atterax
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>>168457632
>Never get a Mutagen Mass invasion with 3 to give

Fucking DE. I would have no many samples if I didn't just build them from scratch all that time ago. Fucking Hema.
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>>168457341
>implying any tennogen changes the actual model below the neck

Heavy texture changes=/=model
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>>168457748
the wiki has a comprehensive comparison chart look for your self.
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>>168457748
lesion
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>>168457748
dark split sword in dagger mode is pretty good. but yeah there really isnt anything that matches the range, speed, and killing potential of the Atterax.
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>>168449356
>>168449785
fags
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>>168456882
You've obviously never posted enough for people to deduce who are you simply from noticing common phrases and other quirks of vocabulary.
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>>168458329
butthurt
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Any alive clans here recruiting? No one even talks in the clan I'm in.. It has all the research which is what matters, but I like to have active clan chats in my games
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>>168458521
Check if one of the other clans in the warbros alliance has space
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>>168458351
I always overthink this when I'm posting, and it probably makes my posts seem even more stilted and recognizable

>>168456678
I agree but it doesn't make the garbage these people want to filter out any less cancerous
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Does weeping wounds work on helios' weapon? Racks up a lot of hits but I don't know if they get a counter
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Is it hard to reach Grand Master please?
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>>168454465

>not really that into the whole warframe lewds thing
>this image literally made my dick hard on sight

Apart from the obvious, I don't know what to do with this new information.
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What are some nice alternate animations for Mesa? Been thinking about Nidus Noble.
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>>168455964
It's pretty easy to find man
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>>168457647
>>168459271

get a time machine
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>>168459636
Ember Noble
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>tfw you didnt drop a single rare when the acolytes were here
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>>168457341
Mesa's model is way more, well, modelled than Ember or Nyx or Excal. She's got all the little folds and pouches as part of her body model, so there's no way to remove them or work around them.

I actually really appreciate how the Graxx approached the colors and added texture. I dig the quilted look.
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Why are the helmets for the Graxx skin inconsistent between the preview lineup and the ingame one? The preview lineup has a squarer right eyepiece and a nose, as well as straps along the top and an extra thingy on the forehead. Meanwhile the in-game version is just Faven's original version. What gives?
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>>168460358
it went through several iterations, he worked on it while it was still being voted on in workshop
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>>168460438
So it's... DE not having the proper version in the game?
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>K U V A F L O O D MOB DEF
>Shitter #1 runs off to activate Kuva
>Shitter #2 runs off to start System
>"Why"
>"Why what"
>"I'll protect systems" Shitter #2 says
>Shitter #2 has been buttfucked and downed
>Angel and Demon spawn on my shoulders
>"I really want my 2k Kuva get it over with"
>"Let him fucking die to prove a point"
>Revives Shitter #2

I hate my conscious
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>>168460538
I only play floods solo on nodes that I can stealth through
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>>168460538
I also hate that you are conscious, I'd recommend ceasing immediately

but really I've been there and it's infuriating, just drop fireworks and don't revive
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>>168460694
Same but every now and then I just say fuck it, what's the worse that could happen? well...
>>168460701
Mind you, I did the entire Kuva by myself and still had enough time to run through Corpus Ice tileset to revive him AND defend the systems.

Next time I'm embracing my devil side.
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>can finally use nekros prime without looking like garbage
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>>168460526
no? this is the latest version
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The prime bits aren't a toggle, they are a skin option that the only exception of them not being removed would be the immortal skin.
Trinity prime can't use her immortal without losing her junk, though.

If the prime bits were a real toggle, would you still use the prime frame's default skin, without the bits? Which tennogen would you still use them on, considering now you can't really have any proof you have a prime under the tennogen.

are there people out there disappointed that they can no longer mix tennogen with the prime frames?
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>>168461518
they are a toggle, just only with tennogen
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>it's a "4-terminal MD" episode
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>>168461518
>they can no longer mix tennogen with the prime frames?
anyways the real issue is loki graxx never ever
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>>168461838
>current year
>no screenshot background
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>>168457665
Shot is only affected by elemental damage.
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>>168461837
>4-terminal MD
jesus christ how horrifying.
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>>168458707
>garbage these people want to filter out any less cancerous

their issue is they havent learned to ignore it, they literally go out of their way to pay attention to the things they hate. Then they spend every thread moaning about it, deriving methods to remove a problem that never goes away. They become a Cancer in their attempt to remove Cancer. Protip for them, Learn to scroll past them.

it is funny that this Obsession about repelling Cancerous posts is kind of part of the Fabric of 4chan's culture... likely because newfags what to be OG and Absorb the hate of outsiders. Almost like they feel Edgy for being here and want what to Preserve their sense of self on 4chan by protecting 4chan from normies. "if 4chan is less edgy, then I wont be edgy." :D like how i inserted Reddit and Gaia in my post and linked it with filtering, because if you are one of those 4chan protectionists, you wont want to be like people from Reddit and Gaia.

tl;dr: think for yourself and do what you want. filter if you feel its necessary.
but dont pretend bringing attention to "cancer" is any less cancerous. just more shit getting in the way, more posts to scroll over.

Imagine all the posts people that dont like me could have filtered out if they didnt tell me I was being filtered. they are their worst enemies. become the cancer that is killing (insert board)
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>>168461838
The main question is if you could remove the prime parts on the prime's main skin, would it break the skin? Do the models have holes where the prime exclusive parts are?

Interesting they are making it so certain cosmetics give you a new option to choose from in the interface.
You think they will allow the same thing for prime weapons/ cosmetics with new skins or they too different to allow such customization anymore?
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>>168459827
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Pugna+r34
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How much do bad tiberon rivens go for? I don't mind rerolling it til it's good, want to make the tiberon decent as I am having fun while leveling it
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>First time doing Kuva Spy
>Got 2
>Fail 3rd, literally cant find a way in and accidentally alarmed

;_;
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>>168462015
fine

>>168462426
The prime skins for sure don't require the added parts to work. The extra bits have no collision, so you can see the texture underneath.

I'm sure they could at least add in the default look as a skin option for prime weapons. It's not like it would change anything.
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>>168462994
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>>168463176
ew, no
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>>168463326
do it
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>>168460951
>next time

By that time you will have forgotten this happened and bitch out again. Thats how it always goes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lqdErI9uss
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>pubbing sortie assass as my man WUKONG
>idiot slovva keeps using MP against Kril
>ask him not to
>he proceeds to sperg out
>continues to spam 4 every time it's off CD
>Kril takes 4x the time to kill
>we call him out on being stupid
>he gets dick-sucking mad
>puts me on ignore

How can people be Mr23 and still be this bad at the game?
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>168462198
>seeking immunity from criticism by acknowledging he is cancer, but asks us to ignore that fact and instead focus on how cancerous the responses are
the mind of tq
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>>168463430
no, I like the arsenal area
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>>168463430
That looks weird as fuck, I'm unsure if I want to do that, but at the same time it's different than the same thing it's been for a while.
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>>168463708
his first mistake was not being speed nova
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Feels like with every update/hotfix, the fps gets lower and lower.
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>>168459376
Maybe you just like Nyx
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>>168463708
well fuck me

posted the wrong screenshot
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>>168464057
it's nice
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Thanks again for the Transient Fortitude, Anon.

My friend will appreciate it.
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>>168464243
Holy shit , I have had luck not running into idiots like this.

But god damn, to top it all off he fucking blocks you lol hes the 1st one to make it into a problem too. Funny how the assholes are always the ones to silence somebody in disagreement.
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>>168464243
At least your Kril didn't fuck up on the final phase and keep switching between invulnerable and damageable really fast.
Lucky some of us had rapid fire weapons or we never would've killed him.
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>>168463829
an intimate look at schizophrenia
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When will Loki Prime return? Wanna know if I should sell my sets now or not.
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>>168464536

:D
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>>168464476
That looks a bit better.
a nice grey looks way better than pitch black.
Also, is that nidus a reference to anything or just actually tasteful edge?
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Holy shit, I still cant get nano aplicators to make my crap build and this guy is one of the bpring lameasses acolytes of the bunch along the opticor one, why is he not droping that yet? that piece of shit

Important part is, as soon as he spawn I fell a MASSIVE drag on the mouse, and I mean AS SOON as he spawn that happens, then after the mission doing something as stupid as using the arsenal to change loadout takes for fucking ever unless you want to close and restart the game. There is something really fucky about that mania one, I know the game just crap itself after playing for a while, but this happens even during the very first mission in the game since I ran it, and the drag is painfully noticiable even when the fps dont change much at all. There is definitely something really fucky about this one.
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>>168464243
>you both made the list
Nah, we all know BPNPC is too autistic to take suggestions to the list from anyone else.
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>sliders now display values in options menu
>still no numbers in appearance menus
it's a huge step forward, but we need to go further
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>>168463546
>All those skins in there combined are world more than a brand new game
Thanks DE
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>>168464848
Just like how the option to disable prime bits is ONLY for 10ogen skins and not shit like rubedo rhino or phased vauban.

Fuck
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>>168464837
you motherfucker
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>>168457632
implying you won't need 20 fieldiron to make Helios Prime
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OFFICIAL WARFRAME SOUNDTRACK

Volt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr9ie2J2690
Atlas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zdoXgGnKdc
Oberon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y983TDjoglQ
jk, sorry oberon fan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewkz0bl5nVA
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>>168464815
I was going for generic supervillain look without being full-edge. Not entire sold on the placement of the colors yet, might switch them around some.

And yeah, you can pull off some interesting background colors/textures/patterns by playing around with the filters and the selected art piece.
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Yo the Arcturus 10ogen is fucking huge. I love it. what are the odds this is legit and not a scaling problem?
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I'll have frog built in an hour, can someone give me a good build for her? She's my first stealthy frame, so not sure on her.
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>>168464613
At least your group didn't have a Valk try to kill him with Hysteria in ice phase. (said valk was MR14). Goddamn. DE puts a fucking indicator of when something is invulnerable and people still cant figure out "if I see a zero when attacking, that means stop shooting and figure something else out".
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>Go to bazaar to sell a few mods I don't really care for
>Make 73 plat
Trading is actually very fun.
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>>168465103
No no, the first one you posted for Oberon was quite accurate to how I feel using him now. Hard to believe I thought I was a god among frames when I first got him years ago.
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i hope the acolytes never come back
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>>168465416
At least for another five months. I got four maiming to sell here when the prices go back up.
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>>168465218
100% strength, maxdur, a bit of range and efficiency
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>tfw I can now use my old scheme on loki prime now

>>168464815
You can also do this with it. Keep in mind using bright colors and white though, it creates an ugly fade around the right and left sides of the screen.
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>>168465218
MAX STRENGTH

But for real, all stats are pretty good on her. I recommend having a bit of everything, no stat is completely necessary, though range is probably the one you don't want negative the most if you're keeping the utility.
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>>168465218
http://pastebin.com/rSmHFVTG

there are many different ways to build her, asking for one build without any specifics is just silly. Luckily there's a repository of all good builds
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>>168465597
congrats, you got what thousands of people couldn't not just once, but four times
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>>168464169
>tubes leading into the ovaries
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>>168465702
Well, I'd like to be able to remain in stealth and CC with her sleep arrows I think
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>>168466006
Well, range is better sleeping.

Efficiency is better stealth, so long as you're not negative duration there's no real concerns there, not that having duration hurts since that improves duration of sleep as well as her arrow invis, not that you can shoot your sentinel with invis arrow any more.
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>>168466006
All builds rely on Prowl.

The most important thing you want to ask yourself is:

Do I want to solo or do I want to contribute to a team?

If you're solo, go for 1st build, pure AB.
If you want to help the team, go for 2nd/3rd builds that use Quiver.

The last two builds are cheesy meme builds you probably aren't ready for
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I love playing Nidus.

I can either just be on the front lines and taking the brunt of the enemy or just lazily hide and boost other players to do the work for me.
>>
>>168463708
>>168464243
It would be a dam shame if someone would save these screenshot and report you to DE, I mean it's not the first time this happen :-)
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>>168465103
>Volt
Not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtPk5IUbdH0
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a4gyJsY0mc
Disgusting.
>>
how many forma does lex/aklex prime need? I stuck in 5 Vs and 1 --, so now I have my base damage, multishot, and primed crit mods, plus two elements, so do I forma for a third element? crit gimmick like creeping or hydraulic or sharpened? punchthrough?
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>>168466608
>Only time someone tried to ERP me was a Volt
Very appropriate song anon, that guy was a weirdo.
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>>168466673
I went with 4 Vs and 3 —s, before any of the primed mods got added in

lex doesn't really need gimmicks, just stick another element in
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>>168464243
>>168463708
>People out there that make TQ look like the sane man
Goddamn, guess he really is a lesser evil.
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Hello friends. Can someone post their Incubus Lokey with the Essence hat? Thanks!
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>>168466578
>wouldnt be the 1st time

What happened the 1st time?
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>>168467140
I like these drawings and the set it comes from.
>>
someone endo my suffering

statue
4k endo
statue
4k endo
booster
4k endo

literally a week without a riven

I can actually use the endo though
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>>168467506
Hol up, there is a set? I've been using that image for years and didn't know that.
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>>168467039
third element is what I've been settling with, but I could use punchthrough in some cases especially with the aklex vs the lex, and I like the idea of having consistent crits, so maybe a riven would be the answer

anyone have a good aklex riven? what's the highest crit chance it can roll?
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Since the Statue is worth 3400 Endo, will they buff the 4000 reward to 5000 or so?
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>>168467638
I'm sure it can go higher, but
Takes it to like 7% redcrits or so.
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>>168467314
He sperg out on someone because the other player frost's globe was too small.
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>Playing energy succ trinity in defense
>Some guy keeps using team energy restores
>Don't know if he's bad or BMing me
>Round 14 he starts following me round placing energy restores under me
O-okay
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>>168468163
He is showing you how easily replaced you are.
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>>168468069
I guess the minimum for guaranteed crits would be 112.8%, if you're using the primed mods... that's a damn nice riven, though I'd sooner it have a drawback like less zoom and tox instead of elec
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/wfg/ where do i farm for oxium? im trying to build vauban prime and i got all the damn nitain, but nobody said anything about the oxium.
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>>168465801
It was a long fucking day, and I had a lot of podcasts lined up for the occassion to save needing to buy some plat next 75% discount.
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>>168468372
Any Corpus area, wait for alerts, I have never farmed oxium once in my life.
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>>168463829
thats not TQ.

>seeking immunity from criticism by acknowledging he is cancer,
Im stating that making posts about Cancer is Cancer. So if im making posts about posts that are about cancer, I am also adding to the cancer. but just like all "cancer", it can be ignored. And if its an issue for you then you should ignore it or become one of the filterfags that sperg out every time they notice characteristics of their current bogyman.

>but asks us to ignore that fact and instead focus on how cancerous the responses are.
ignore the fact that things are deemed cancer, No. Just dont pay attention to Cancer because it only creates more cancer.

This general more than most is obsessed. You have a Scab on your Arm and you keep poking it until your finger hurts. A doctor tells you to stop poking it so your finger can heal and you complain that the doctor and the scab are your problems.
No, you are your problem.
Ignore the Scab, new ones will always show up and leaving them alone makes them go away faster. Less picking and poking and you dont need a doctor to tell you to stop. Yes, im the doctor, knower of all things that are good, telling you to stop if it causes you so much trouble.
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>>168468372
BAAL
A
A
L

Finish Mobile Defense, run all over the map killing ossssspreys
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>>168468490
>doctor
stopped reading right there
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>>168468163
Trins are meant for bullying.
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>>168468490
>doctor

that word is loaded, friendo.
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Buy Saryn Prime or grind for it?

Or stop being lazy and unlock all the planets?
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>>168468163
Nothing sparks my ire like someone using energy pads at the start of a mission when I'm Trin.

Like no, stop wasting your resources you fucker.
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I hope someday to see infested on the Kuva fortress. Seems like a perfect tileset for that old spooky feeling.
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>>168468826
>infested kuva fortress
man, that'd be nice

the whole lasers, mines and the music reminds me of abe's odyssey in kuva spies
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>>168468724
it doesn't really matter if you build ahead and top off once in a while, but you have no way of knowing if you're playing with the kind of trin who's going to EV at least occasionally and be useful or just refuse to use any abilities
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>>168468696
actually i just remembered, isnt TQ actually going to school to become a Doctor? ha
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What's the current credit faucet?
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>>168468826
>wanting more of the tileset with the worst minimap directions
they really need to fix that shit
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>>168469310
I think you made that up just now.
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Anyone get a Dead Space vibe from the Convectrix? It's a fucking horrible weapon; I'm just leveling it up for MR, but damn does it look cool. It wouldn't be out of place at all in a CEC engineer's arsenal.
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>>168469428
maybe it was PBNPC or whatever their name is.
that person that gives free stuff away.
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>>168469756
BPNPC is TQ, friend. He did a giveaway after he supposedly got into med school.
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>Farming Kuva, because resource booster login

>Some mr23 shit head just killing grineer and opening lockers 3m away from extract for the full 60 seconds the other 3 of us were in extraction

I don't mind shitters or leechers, but when you're actively slowing down the end of mission intentionally you're the worst.
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>>168468826
Infested sealab would be cool
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>>168470124
I've seen more and more people doing that recently. What the fuck started it?
When I first started, people would actually race you to extraction and use shit like ST or coptering to get ahead of you. Now, they'll fucking rush there and stop 5 meters from extract for the entire minute. What gives?
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>>168469941
I don't think he's going to med school at all, what he need is real help.
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>>168470236
There is.
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>Sortie got me a forma
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>some noob is wanting to trade maiming strike for prime sets
>offer to give him 4 sets plus 100p
>doesnt trust me enough to trade maiming strike for one of the sets in a trade and wants me to give him all of the sets before getting meme strike
>mfw

sorry but im not that stupid
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>mynki quit DE because they wanted to toggle prime parts and he would have none of it because "muh art"

makes you think
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>>168471140
[citation needed]
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>>168465026
Nigga I have hundreds of those fucking things and six times as many detonite. Fuck Fieldron.
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>>168471140
I 99% doubt it, but 1% would be really funny.
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>Get Tempo Royale during an alert weeks ago
>Go to bazaar and see it going on sale for 60 plat
What are some other unexpectedly valuable mods a new player might have sitting around?
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>Join infested defense
>2 Frost
>One globe inside of the other, we have to get under 2 layers of globes to damage enemies who get to the capsule
>ask them to remove globes
>they don't even answer
This made me want to kill people BUT
>Play the mission again (it's infested invasion)
>A frost joins
>fuckyou.jpg
>He doesn't actually use the globe
>I say "THANK YOU for not using globe"
>He answers "I'm not THAT kind of frost player"
Feels good to know that there's still people with half a functioning brain out there
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>>168471705
Tempo Royale is rare AF from bursas, and it's only 60p because Baro was selling it the other week.
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>Swift Finesse
is this attainable in-game somehow?
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>>168471963
"Swift Finesse 20% Parkour Velocity" do you even have any evidence of it existing? I want it
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>>168471849
Frost needs a mandatory tutorial on the Do's and Don'ts of snow globe that must be recompleted each daily reset. Just a basic run down is all I'm asking, tell players that allies can not fire into globes under most circumstances and how to remove globes.
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>>168472214
I just stumbled across it when looking for anything to increase my AVATAR_PARKOUR_BOOST

semlar com misc 84atk6f swift-finesse
I swear this shit isn't spam, pls gookmoot, shows up on the wf poedb site too
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>>168472307
>tutorial for every frame
while that would be god-tier, it'll never happen. DE hasn't voluntarily made information like that happen ever, much less made it mandatory.
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>>168471963
>>168472214
>>168472427
looks like it's a pvp mod, never mind
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>>168445647
>Told him his Mag build is a trap for new players
>still have not fixed it

God dammit Tierqueer
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>>168471928
Was it worth less or more before Baro sold it?

I think I might have sold a duplicate for credits.
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Where do I find the hidden data for things like Sonicor in the datamines?

I remember void mining the actual status value for sonicor explosion, which is actually more than 0% listed on card.

I want to know what it is for stug.
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Did they fuck up clan emblems again?
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>>168472718
more but not that much more. 100p maybe, compared to whatever you see now.

Odds are you sold the other rare heavy blade but hey. Support might refund it to you.
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>>168472704
how?
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>unveiled a daikyu riven
+toxin, +multishot -critical damage
endo fodder right
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>>168472636
There's a loading screen tip that says that Frosts can pop their bubbles with a Freeze.
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>>168472845
well, they continue to fuck up not letting you use them as glyphs/profile icons, but nothing seems changed to me
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>>168472704
I like all the place were it says "There is one build" and then proceeds to explain multiple builds.
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>>168472926
2bfair the crit chance on daikyu is lackluster, and toxin and multishot are decent rolls.

But yeah the weapon itself is shit. Someone might buy it for 20p+, Daikyu has a fan club like oberon.
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>>168472953
Which is one of hundreds of little quips that can appear randomly and a third of those are outdated. If nothing else, a mandatory run down on a Frame's basic functions would eliminate the 'lol i didnt know XD' types; so when you ask a Frost to ditch the globe and he just responds with question marks then you know you're dealing with a shitlord and not someone who genuinely did not know.
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>>168472894
Magnetize is a decent defense on a frame that no matter how strong you build for shields a well place shot will ruin your day plus with the changes that happen this patch you can get a bit more spammy with them too.

I love Mag and I tried following this build, shit was fucking awful I was about to give her up
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>>168473278
It's the best build for her. Don't tell me you're running shitty Polarize builds. Whether you personally have fun with a build is meaningless. The only thing the guide takes into consideration is effectiveness.
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>>168473123
>a mandatory run down on a Frame's basic functions
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDmrv5FhAWj_VzURMqylYnfxlRWvtLspv

>those are outdated.
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These guys are Corpus.

Say something nice about them.
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>>168473524
I like it when we work together and they bring sappers.
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>>168473524
John Prodman
They make cute Bursas
Nothing else
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>>168473524
just tech my shit up
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>>168473524
no
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>>168473524
Their stupid heads look good nailed on my trophy wall.

>helping jews
>ever
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>>168473468
But here is the thing, running your shitty Mag was not fun or effective and your crappy build is out of date and of course you're going to be too much of a shitter to fix it. Fuck to /egg/ and let the slavs deal with the text based shit you spray out of your fingers you Gold Plated Kuva Sucking Orokin Double Faggot
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>>168473870
so what do you run?
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WHY IS A MAG SPAMMING POLARIZE IN AN INFESTED MISSION
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>168473524
They make it so I can't see the same room copy pasted fifty times.
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>>168473934
A fun and effective build

>>168474001
Maybe to keep someone's shields up, most likely is a shitter
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>>168472704

>"if you disagree with the frame guide explain WHY and HOW your build is better!"
>people do
>guide never changes
>"check the frame guide" spam
>it's shit, jim
>"REEEEE!"

Every time.
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How to Sobek? Acid Shells? Syndicate mod?
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>>168474249
except this fucking retard in question literally never fucking gave his build

are you illiterate?
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what weapons is weeping wounds good on

is weeping wounds even good
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>>168474120
the mission had just started
there was noone with low shields
he dropped 5 pizzas and is still spamming it
i don't want to live anymore
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>>168474403
Atterax, Galatine Prime
use it instead of 60/60s so you don't dilute the slash procs with other less useful procs
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>>168473862
Thanks for curing me of robo-zombie-AIDs and covering my ass from the Stalker's minions, Tenno!
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Is Hydroid worth a damn? Haven't really been able to find a satisfactory answer yet
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>>168473469
Are you seriously using youtube release promos as an argument for a thorough breakdown of frames? Did you watch any of those for frames that have undergone reworks since their initial release?
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>>168457454
Sorry i'm late
Have some more froggo
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>>168474613
WHY DID THEY DO NOTHING WITH THE DUAL FACTION SHIT

WHY

LET ME KILL THIS FUCK
OR AT LEAST TORTURE HIM INDEFINITELY
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>>168474658
check the tier list

hydroid is garbage
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>>168474613
>DE shoehorning

>>168474658
No and I'm sure you've seen that answer many times but some part of you just wants to believe otherwise.
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>>168474736
>check the tier list

sheldon no

bad sheldon
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>>168474736
which one

my list says he's pretty good
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>>168474613
>you will never save tyl's tubes and tubemen from alad the jellyfish
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>>168474929
>wanting tyl's tubes
>instead of ruk's meaty thighs
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This drives me up the fucking wall.

It's an Exterminate mission, why do this.

Avalanche would be more fucking useful.
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>>168475054
>bring frost on exterm
>spam icy avalanche for free aoe team iron skin and cc/kills
when I play frost I literally only pop globes on console/target/excavator defense missions, or if I'm bunkering down alone on an intercept point, and even then only if it's appropriate and not blocking people
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>>168475183
>icy avalanche
you are part of the problem
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>>168474402

People have gone through your guide and explained where it's wrong, but you just spazz out and tell us how you are Doctor TQ Rosa Parks, professor of Warframe and that they're wrong because they aren't you and didn't write the frame guide EVEN THOUGH LARGE SECTIONS OF IT ARE OUT OF DATE EVEN IF THEY WERE EVER CORRECT, AND PROBABLY NEVER FUCKING WERE TO BEGIN WITH.

Then you run out the post limit on threads with smug anime girl image macros, insults, and NEVER EVER CHANGE YOUR GUIDE EVEN THOUGH IT IS TOTAL SHIT.

So people know you won't listen and will never change and the only point to posting "the guide is shit" is for the rare occasion when it isn't you pretending to be a newbie who wants advice on one of your cookie cutter builds or asking for a tier list is to tell people who don't know any better yet that you are absolutely full of shit and should not ever, at all, be listened to. Not even a little bit.

I look forward to another 30+ posts in this thread where you do your usual song and dance and having this post be screencapped and used out of context when you feel the need to wank over how awesome and wise you are.
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Is jewing retards with shitty gear and getting hella plat from it the true endgame of warframe?
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>>168475183
I honestly would have no problem with it, but this fucker kept spamming globe every minute we ran into a new group of enemies. He even did it in narrow hallways.
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>>168474249
Fuck it here is a quick review of the TQ's shit build

>Trying to get out of low MR hell on Akkad
>Tossing a low dura Magnetize on an ancient, I blink and the bubble is gone, did not pop, was just flat out gone dealing zero damage

This at its core is why I call that build a shit

The build have right now might not be non-DEAC ready but I can handle sorties and I'm having fun when I use my powers

>Mobilize rank 3
>Rifle Amp rank 5
>Flow rank 5
>Redirection rank 7
>Transient Fortitude rank 7
>Continuity rank 5
>Streamline rank 5
>Intensify rank 5
>Stretch rank 5
>Quick Thinking rank 5

So there, am I going to have to go out of my way to build every fucking frame in this game and try to make better new player friendly builds than this scared >>168474265 little faggot?
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>>168475289
wait, what the actual fuck is wrong with using icy avalanche?
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>>168475601
There is none
The status immunity is great for sortie hazards too
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>>168474773
Nope, I'm a really new player and I'm still learning, Hydroid just seemed neat
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>>168475308
Ah yes, shitters have gone through the guide and told me it was wrong and how I should include their superior builds.

F U C K O F F

I'm not going to listen to every fucking retarded player who thinks his opinion is worth the ATP to process his retarded fucking post.

Either give specific examples of why the guide is wrong, or fuck off. You general "it's wrong lol" is worth less than the metaphysical space it's printer on.
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>>168475671
that's what I thought, at absolute worst it will slow down and stop enemies within range of cast, not at all slowing your progress of aoe killing and rushing through exterms with tboltace or ember or miragulor or whatever, and at best it's killing shit, either way it's giving you a free one-time or more status proc shield
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>>168474389
Acid Shells yeah

Syndicate mod meh
Pellet count is pretty low and fire rate can get decent so the syndicate mod technically functions for high level grineer but you're better off loading up with more damage and letting acid shells chip away at crowds.

Legitimately my favorite shotgun - Nova, Saryn, and Rhino's roar all have synergy with acid shells in one form or another and it's great.
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>>168448114
>Remembering a random literal who
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>>168475773
Hold up, I did not say use my build, I'm just warning new players not to use yours
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>>168475534
WHY ARE YOU SURPRISED THAT ANCIENT DISRUPTORS

WHICH ARE RESISTANT TO CC EFFECTS

IS RESISTANT TO MAGNETIZE, A CC EFFECT

HOLY FUCK YOU ARE YOU ARE RETARDED

Not to mention your "superior build" is LITERALLY THE BUILD GIVEN IN THE GUIDE. Jesus fucking christ, it's a low-duration Mag build, what the fuck are you schizophrenic?
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>>168474249
>People tell TQ why he's wrong
>He gets assblasted and starts making up total shit arguments
>Later tries to claim nobody explained why they disagree
Every time
Fuck off tiernigger
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>>168475996
Clam down nigger also look up also my "superior build" which I never it was can handle ancients also maybe friendo if you're going to try to write out new player friendly builds use some solid numbers and not wishy washy shit
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I hope you tierhates realize you're literally arguing for a low-MR shitter who's using Rifle Amp, a fucking R7 Redirection, and who has no idea what Ancient Disruptors do.

It's like you retards don't even read the posts you're replying to, just agreeing with them because they disagree with me.
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>>168475773

>here, look at the image where i crop out all the parts where the guy said he was testing a build and clearly doesn't have the mods to go for a min-maxed, highly tweaked endgame build yet any way
>this totally shows that I, Doctor Martin Luther King Jr of Warframe, am an expert and absolutely trustworthy
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>>168476242
it's not new-player friendly you illiterate dumbshit

In the very first fucking line of the guide it states "This guide is aimed at players seeking to do high-level content. It assumes you have some experience with the game and access to rare mods."

So fuck off with your special snowflake builds. If you're too new to properly utilize the builds in the guide, then do whatever the fuck you want, but don't start spouting off bullshit when you have no grasp yet of the game
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>>168476275

And yet in one post he's shown that he has a better grasp on game mechanics than you and is more willing to hear and act on advice people give than you ever have.
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Can I get some suggestions for my t*er l*st?
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>>168476309
>guy calls my build shit
>proceeds to post his clearly superior build

yeah no. If he actually was a new player asking for build advice, I wouldn't give a shit, but not when the first thing he says is how shitty my build is and how much better his build is
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Why do +fire rate mods only work 2x on bows and not all charge weapons?
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>>168476275
MR 12
Rifle Amp because I'm not about to waste a forma on a basic Mag
I hate jews so I went SM, I love the Top Hek and never had a chance to grab the jew whip

>>168476381
>but new players can also make use of this guide if they're wondering which frame/build to work towards.

Read moar faggot also if you want to talk about builds post some with your guide unless you're just talking out of your ass
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>>168476381

>new player asks for advice
>"check my endgame guide, even though my builds are shit"

Well done, very helpful.
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>>168476476
akari posters in good tier
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>>168476493

DE logic.
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>>168476493
Because that'd make too much sense
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>>168476381
>New players are the ones who would need both a tier list to show them what frames to grind for, and a guide so they know how to use and build them
>Experienced players don't need a guide because they have experience
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>>168476681
>MR12 with basic Mag, no forma, using Rifle Amp and R7 Redirection, with no clue of what Ancient Disruptors do
>people will actually defend this

The sad thing is, I bet you didn't even use the frame guide build properly. It only works with certain weapons, which your scrub ass doesn't have

>>168476714
It gives them something to work towards. Not to mention the guidelines are the same whether you're running endgame or low-level shit. Builds like Invis Loki, Chroma, Slovva, etc. are perfectly usable for newer players. They just need to substitute mods they don't have
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>>168475880

Cool. Off to grind fucking Rathum. God this game is a meme.
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Anybody with a synapse riven with a V polarity?
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>>168476952
>not just waiting till you can kill kela with on entry fee in sorties
fuck that awful wannabe-Unreal deathmatch mode
>>
>>168476941
>chroma builds are accessible to new players
130% power strength will go a long way
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>>168476853
There's no fucking point in making a frame guide for new players, because new players are limited by mods, not frames. Every single fucking new player is going to slap Vitality/Redirection/Flow/SL on their frames, because those are the best and ONLY mods they have.

It's only up to a certain level of game experience, once basic mods have been acquired, that efficiency and frame builds become important.
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>>168477037

Who knows when that'll be? I guess I could just buy it.
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>>168476998
Yes, but it's my better one. I have a D, though. i love my succ gun even if its an ammo hog
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>>168477045
High base health/armor with Ward/Vex WILL carry new players a long way. New players will build chroma exactly the same as endgame players, except with less of the proper mods. You build str+duration+vit on Chroma no matter what stage of the game you're at.
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>>168476941
>tonkor
Yup also this is the part where you forgot where I said your "builds" should have solid numbers and be more than just "get a high str and low dura" because as I have said listening to your poorly worded advice made build a %20 dura Mag

Also I have forma, I don't waste forma. Most people here knows this game is a shit so logically they would want to cut down the grind by not wasting mats and credits on a frame you will ditch when you get the prime version
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>>168477381
YOU DON'T BUILD A FUCKING 20% DURATION MAG YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER

That negative duration is too fucking low to do anything. You need time to still fucking shoot inside it. The guide SPECIFICALLY SAYS TO EXPERIMENT WITH A DURATION THAT WORKS FOR YOU. I personally use ~70-80% duration.

Goddamn you literally never even fucking actually used the build correctly
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>>168477229
I have a V one I'm already using which is why I'm asking. Thanks tho. Speaking of ammo hogs, my riven is 55+ fire rate. I don't want to reroll it though because it's also +multishot and +critchance Make Synapse great again. Please kill me.
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>>168477705
>this is the part where you forgot where I said your "builds" should have solid numbers and be more than just "get a high str and low dura"

I knew you would say that
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>Low duration is a meme
>red crits are a meme
>melee is a meme

>playing warframe is a meme

>TQ is a meme

hillary was right ban all memes
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>>168477901
>Watching konoshitba
Wew
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>>168478109
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>>168477943
There are several reasons why the guide uses guidelines as opposed to exact numbers:

1) Variance in builds. There is room (oftentimes significant room) for player preference, even within the same build. Vauban, for example, can have many different combinations of STR/duration/range. Same with Mesa, Nidus, etc.

2) Players may not have all the mods. Guidelines allow players to use the mods they have (e.g. using Intensify + Power Drift for high strength, even if they don't necessarily have TF/BR), instead of setting arbitrary limits on numbers.

3) Guidelines help explain WHY you want those stats. "High power strength" for example can tell you that you're using power strength for more damage.
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>>168478109
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>>168478114
Low Duration is a meme on most things. It has it's place on others.

Red Crits are not a meme, but their is no point in building for them on weapons that don't benefit from crits.

Melee is a meme if you use it for anything other than a heal stick (melee only sorties aside for obvious reasons).
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>>168478109
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>>168478195
I saw it on reddit

I don't watch anime
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>>168478279

>it's fine if you have some variance in your build
>BUT YOU HAVE TO DO IT MY WAY, WITH MY EXACT BUILD FROM MY SCREENSHOTS OR YOU'RE A TURBOSHITTER WHO DOESN'T DESERVE TO HEAR MY WISDOM

ok then
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>>168478109
I love this
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>>168478347
>heal stick
>not using melee for going fast and breaking boxes
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>>168478513
>using melee for going fast
how do
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>>168478347

TQ makes a point of recommending max efficiency for most builds and as a general point though.

So if you follow his guide you'll wind up with Fleeting and he recommends Transient a lot as well. Thus, extremely low durations which he claims is fine because muh power spam, you have efficiency lel
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>>168478440
I call out shitters on complete garbage builds. For some reason, people think this makes me intolerant of goods builds. Simply untrue.

There are many goods builds that differ from what I use, which is fine. But if you're doing stupid shit like Polarize Mag and CC Mesa, yeah, I'm going to call you out on being retarded
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>>168478550

Dispatch Overdrive, I guess. Coptering is dead.
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>>168478347
>Melee is a meme that is only used as a heal stick
>it is the only thing that stays viable besides ash teleport and trinity vampire in the index
>even tigris prime and soma prime fall off hard eventually
Melee's time is now.
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>>168478513
You don't even play the game. You just watch out-dated videos.

>>168478587
We already know that TQ is an idiot though.
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How do I make the supra good without a riben.
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>>168478749
you sell it and use the slot for something actually functional.
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What's the best Dark Sector for credit farming? I'm getting poor after today's upgrading and actually making decent plat
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>TQ AND luccy autism
>people are replying to both
wfg pls
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>>168478684
Everything falls off eventually. Tigris Prime is still the best if you build it right.
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>>168478550
>>168478678
Telos Boltace. It's passive parkour speed works even when you don't have it out
>>168478703
Y'all dumb. Not talking coptering, talking new copter.
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>>168478603

>I call out shitters on complete garbage builds.

Then, physician-to-be, heal thyself.

Because 99% of your builds are shit, and you ignore the advice that would let you fix that and correct your precious frame guide.
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>>168478109
PIC RELATED GLYPH WHEN

>>168478513
telos boltace literally makes your parkour shit 20% faster, also using a high speed melee attack after your bullet jump will get you a bit more distance and more control than the usual chain spam

>>168478678
only works on your walking/sprinting speed
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>>168478279

I can agree with most of this but my counterpoint

>Aim for X% power strength, if you can't hit it fine. Closer you come to this number the better this frame will be in this build, going over it might make you weaker in other areas

I understand your points but vague advice and rules is just as bad as set in stone rulings that can't be changed no matter what. The middle ground is a noble goal all should work toward
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Has anyone managed to find GKL's in-game profile? I want to see how shit he is.
How did we find TQ's name, anyway? Did he just forget to remove it from a screenshot?
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>+244.9% Damage
>+87.5% Rate of Fire
>+3.8 Punch Through
>-56.9% Ammo Maximum

Would the Harpak be viable with this Riven?
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>>168478962
no
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>>168478847
I love the Tigris, but every single build under the sun falls off about halfway before prodman, even with 4 corrosive projections, even with Ash invisibility and slash buff. Meanwhile Lesion still kicks the shit out of everything ever with naramon.
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>>168478962
Needs crit damage and crit chance along with damage or multishot.
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>>168478920
ah yes, more of "your builds suck but I'm not going to give examples, say why, or post my builds"

fuck off, I'm so tired of seeing these empty, meaningless insults. If you gouged out your eyes and blindly smacked your keyboard your posts would have as much meaning

>>168478932
Too many words for something that's already implicitly understood. "High" and "Max" does that but simpler, and there's a general "how-to-build" frames guide at the bottom that resolves most conflicts anyway.
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>>168478962
Harpak doesn't need punch through that much because when it kills an enemy the enemy becomes a projectile
it has meh accuracy and noticeable recoil'
>burst-fire
the only really useful thing on that riven is the +damage
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>used to log in for sorties
>stopped
>log in
>trade a few things
>log out
>waiting for the game to not be shit

anyone else in this slough of despondency?
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>>168479220

>putting a how to build frames guide at the end of a builds guide

I was trying to be chill but then you say something dumb and I have to become the law
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>>168479341
Pretty sure Harpak's burst speed does scale on rof
>>168479348
life is empty til Bard
then it'll be empty again in a few weeks, but at least I'll have one extra thing to do in ships.
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>>168478109
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>>168478846
>responding to fucci

I'm just trying to get him to 'ignore' me again, for the 5th time

>>168478950
>How did we find TQ's name, anyway? Did he just forget to remove it from a screenshot?

yes more or less

>Has anyone managed to find GKL's in-game profile?
why bother he's a console pleb

>>168479220
>Too many words for something that's already implicitly understood.

nigger that's bad reasoning

the only thing I'm implicitly acknowledging is that everyone on the internet is an idiot, me included

give examples, it'll help the newshitters and people coming back
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>>168477805
Bruh, that's almost exactly what I have for my good Synapse riven, I know your pain. Turns out the - was the good one and the V the okay one, been a while since I used it.
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>>168479513
>why bother he's a console pleb
He claims he plays on both PC and an unspecified console, but either way it would let us see how much of a shitter he is.
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>>168479220
>ah yes, more of "your builds suck but I'm not going to give examples, say why, or post my builds"
So when TQ says "I say that red crits are a meme because I cbf to do the long version every time" it's okay, but when other people don't bother to explicitly cite every time you've gotten BTFO, it's not?
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>>168478352
>>168478478
>>168478289
My dudes
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>>168479523
It's okay/10
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>>168479475
increased fire rate on a burst-fire weapon with recoil is a big no, you only end up getting one headshot per burst
harpak is built for crit too, so you really want those headshots
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>>168479636
If I post the long explanation of why redcrits are a meme, retards are going to argue despite the fact that literal fucking math shouldn't be argued with, and I don't want to talk simply fucking multiplication with retards. Just search the archives for "Redcrit meme" it should be easy to find
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Status is good for Dex Pixia right?

If so, I guess Braton Prime would be a good weapon for it maybe
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>>168479925
This is what I use.
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>>168478587
But there's nothing wrong with power spam. Not every map will have consistent spawns and streams of enemies coming consistently. A lower duration build for any frame that needs some duration can be more efficient than one that has a minute of duration for truckloads of energy but spends half of it waiting for enemies to appear. The low(er) duration build is just more risky when it affects something related to survivability, and how feasible it is to manage that risk also partially comes down to playstyle.
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>>168480101
Low duration should only be used on things that have no durration (e.g. snow globe) or things that benefit from it (e.g. Energy Vampire).
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>>168479852
Autismally yelling isn't good reasoning, nigger. Nor is implying stuff you could've basically laid out. Pointing them after the fact is generally seen as you moving the goalposts.

Just simply saying 'attaining red crits on 90% weapons is too much of an opportunity cost, you'd get more damage out of dual stats/whatever, here have some maths' is in fact easier than throwing shitfits in here, unless internet confrontation is the only way you can interact online.

If this is too much for you maybe you shouldn't be making tier lists or interacting with public.

because holy hell you're gonna be in a rude awakening whenever you actually go out and interact with public

Or, more likely, you've never wanted discussion, you just need blind praise like deviantart.

Also your nezha suggestions are shit, post an actual build in there faggot.

>>168479594
>but either way it would let us see how much of a shitter he is.

why, you can see how much of a shitter he is, he can't stop posting webbums.
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>>168479925
yeah it's got like 25% base status, crits are ok on it but not the best considering it's only 10%/2x
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Headshots typically do *2 damage, or a bonus of 100%, some enemies receive *3 damage or a 200% bonus to damage.
Critical Headshots occur when an attack crits during a headshot, this is an additional *2 or a 100% bonus to damage after all other bonuses.
If the critical chance is 100% or higher the Critical Headshot Bonus will always trigger on headshots, so just use "*2" instead of "(1+1*CritChance)"
These calculations do not take into account enemy elemental weaknesses/resistances, use elements that the opposing faction is weak against for best results in game.
These calculations do not take into account the additional damage from status affects that do additional damage over time.
CriticalDamageBonus is CriticalDamageMultiplier-1
BaseDPS=Damage*Firerate*AddedMultishot
BaseDPS*(1+CritDamBonus*CritChance)*HeadshotMultiplier*(1+CritHeadshotBonus*CritChance)=CritHeadshotAdjustedDPS
BaseDPS*Accuracy*(1+CritDamBonus*CritChance)*(HeadshotPercentage*HeadshotMultiplier*(1+CritHeadshotBonus*CritChance))=RealDPS

building for redcrits is best if you headshot consistently, but only if it had less than 100% crit chance before you added the mod that makes it redcrit (which is pretty much everything capable of getting redcrits)
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>>168479591
Those stats are crazy close, spooky
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>>168480287
Wiki says 15%/2x for crit

That's not half bad, if it's true.
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>>168480262
In the original redcrit meme post I LITERALLY spelled out everything, including all the math, with a summary of important results at the end, and retards still fucking argued. Fuck off with "you're just saying it wrong!" Retards will argue no matter what you say and how you say it

Like this retard>>168480350
It doesn't fucking matter whether you headshot or not. Redcrits scale identically as regular crits, it changes nothing.
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>>168480393
Sounds right, it crits a reasonable amount with crit mods.
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>>168480378
>crit chance instead of crit damage
Into the trash
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>>168480350
>mechanic has situational value for paper DPS and applications beyond simple DPS factor
careful, sounds dangerously reasonable and you're going to trigger some fucking retard who needs to come and tell you it's a meme
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>>168480440
>post empirically proves you wrong
>"No you're just a retard"
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>>168480440
>For example, a melee weapon with a base 3.0x crit multiplier and Organ Shatter installed would have a multiplier of 5.7x for level 1 (yellow) crits. If that weapon were to have a Critical Chance over 100% it would be capable of achieving level 2 crits and they would have a multiplier of 10.4x, and if that weapon reached a Critical Chance over 200% it would be capable of level 3 crits dealing 15.1x damage.

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Critical_Hit

15.1x > 5.7x
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>>168480483
Oh yeah? 1v1 me with your synapse then. I'll be waiting.
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>>168480378
Damn son, that's really close. I do recommend crit damage, I wish my V riven wasn't at 3500 kuva already so I could offer.
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>>168480493
>careful, sounds dangerously reasonable
It sounds like word salad. Dear lord I hate college liberals and their nonsensical word salads.
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>>168479009
>>168479109
Fuck you I'm gonna dump 5 Forma into this thing
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>>168480578
The post doesn't prove anything. I barely even read it because it's formatted so awfully, with no explanation for any of the formulas it uses, or in fact where it gets its formulas from. Copy+paste a bunch of formulas with zero context and formulas does not an argument make.
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>>168480718
it's presented very poorly but is of sound statistical basis

dear lord I hate pompous self-righteous retards and their inexplicable blindness to their own capacity for fault or error
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>>168480718
Don't drag mathematics down into your jew circus.
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>>168480679
Your big numbers red damage does nothing useful if it procs on the last sliver of health on an enemy and so it DOESN'T FUCKIGN MAKE IT OBJECTIVELY BETTER HOLY SHIT YOU MORON
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>>168480743
harpak needs projectile velocity to be really usable

but follow your dreams, I have that many forma in the buzlok and it's irredeemable
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>>168480718
go back to your safe space, no one wants to hear about how you're triggered by the assumption of liberals
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>Sortie 2 Kuva Spy
>Sortie 3 LeKrillMan, one of the worst bosses to get upscaled to 100
>Get a statue for my efforts

It seems my Sortie Riven luck ran out the moment I bought a riven with plat myself.
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>>168480718
are you a Dunce? i mean, conservative?
thats not word salad, but it certainly is laden with snark.

>making idiots feel like idiots
>Stop using Words Libtard!!!
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>>168478962
>>168479109
Please don't, I've tried. The accuracy for a burst rifle is disgusting.
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>>168480867
>Redhead Damage = Damage × Red Crit Multiplier × Headshot Multiplier × Headcrit Multiplier

>Red Crit Multiplier: This is double your critical multiplier, minus 1.00 exactly.

>Headshot Multiplier: typically 2.0x.

>Headcrit Multiplier: Still 2.0x.

>This means that a player wielding Dread with all related mods could deal up to 60.0x their normal damage.
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>>168481058
I don't care too much about accuracy, I'll just pretend it's a weird shotgun.
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>>168480867
and your change in average raw DPS does nothing useful if you can instead minimize the number of firing cycles/time to kill a given enemy or group of enemies

retard
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>>168480710
For some reason I read that your previous pic as V. (Just shows how tired I am though I guess) If you were interested, I could maybe trade it for this flux rifle riven. I've been trying to get rid of it for awhile anyway. And before you look it up again, no flux rifle isn't a crit weapon (at all).
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>>168480393
I think the wiki is wrong, but I'm just assuming the base values for the weapon itself aren't modified by the ability script... which it might be
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>>168479220

People have gone through what's wrong with your guide and explained what's wrong with your builds, both in the guide and in the screenshots you've posted.

Over and over and over again.

But you keep pretending they don't, and you keep screencapping shit to pull out whenever the pressure is really on to try and convince people that you actually understand anything.

People are exhausted from doing all the work to prove your idiotic ass wrong, because it never matters in the end. So instead they just say "You are wrong and don't understand what you're talking about" because there is LITERALLY no point to doing anything more than that. They can put in as much effort as they like, and BTFO your asinine arguments as thoroughly as they deserve to be, and yet the very next thread you will post "Update tier list lads, I'm right and everyone else is a pleb who's wrong about everything" any way.

>>168480258

But that would require logic, reason, and understanding game mechanics, three things that TQ has proven himself tragically incapable of.

READ THE FRAME GUIDE, FOLLOW THE FRAME GUIDE, etc.
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>>168480948
I got a forma.
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>>168480350
Since it seems people have trouble understanding it

Example Weapon 1:
25% base critical chance, 2 base critical damage multiplier (this is a critical damage bonus of 100% or 1.0), 100 base damage, base rate of fire of 1
2973.88*(1+3.4*0.625)*2*(1+1*0.625)=30203.46875 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Stormbringer, Shred, Point Strike, Vital Sense
2017.99*(1+5.8*0.625)*2*(1+1*0.625)=30332.9121875 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Shred, Point Strike, Vital Sense, Bladed Rounds
2017.99*(1+3.4*0.9625)*2*(1+1*0.9625)=33840.809429375 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Shred, Point Strike, Argon Scope, Vital Sense
1552.3*(1+5.8*0.9625)*2*(1+1*0.9625)=40105.70789375 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Point Strike, Argon Scope, Vital Sense, Bladed Rounds

Example Weapon 2:
30% base critical chance, 2 base critical damage multiplier (this is a critical damage bonus of 100% or 1.0), 100 base damage, base rate of fire of 1
2973.88*(1+3.4*0.75)*2*(1+1*0.75)=36950.459 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Stormbringer, Shred, Point Strike, Vital Sense
2017.99*(1+5.8*0.75)*2*(1+1*0.75)=37786.86275 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Shred, Point Strike, Vital Sense, Bladed Rounds
2017.99*(1+3.4*1.155)*2*2=39770.54692 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Shred, Point Strike, Argon Scope, Vital Sense
1552.3*(1+5.8*1.155)*2*2=47804.6308 Serration, Heavy Caliber, Split Chamber, Infected Clip, Point Strike, Argon Scope, Vital Sense, Bladed Rounds
those were for the CritHeadshotAdjustedDPS
or in other words, on paper redcrits are vastly superior

for the RealDPS
Accuracy is the percentage of shots that actually hit the target
HeadshotPercentage is how many of those hits are headshots

I didn't expect Argon Scope + Bladed Rounds to make such a large difference
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>>168481293
>as V
Meant as D

>forgot pic
just fuck it
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Who gives a fuck about DPS.

Slap on your max mods and kill shit. None of this crap matters anymore.
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>>168481746
>negative multishot
>Daikyu
Nope, not even without the multishot.
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>>168481573
Unfortunately I already have a Flux Rifle riven and hate snipers or else I'd totally take you up on your offers.
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>>168477229
>>168476998
Can you two sell me on the synapse?
I actually got my first riven as one shortly after I sold the gun for the slot. I don't usually do that, but the synapse just felt so wrong I couldn't stand it. Might remake it if it's interesting enough Most of the infested weaponry rub me the wrong way, really
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>>168481527

Argon Scope is largely a meme mod, but things like Critical Delay can be worth using especially on things like the Rakta Cernos since that takes it into permacrit territory and the draw speed is insane enough that you're usually getting your shot lined up properly as it finishes any way.

But if you can only fit one mod on out of Argon, Delay, or Bladed Rounds then Bladed is the one to go with, definitely.
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>>168480350
>>168481527
Jesus Christ, this is some next level autism, how do you even understand math that well while writing it in such a convoluted way, and why waste all that on a skinnerbox.
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>>168478109
are there any profile icons besides >>168478213
and the grineer queens that you don't have to buy?
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>>168482106

The Synapse is a strictly worse version of the Amprex, I'm afraid. The lack of chaining and limited range makes it pretty bad on most maps.

I have one with like 7 polarised slots on it from when I was trying to get it to work but it just isn't going to happen. Maybe if its base damage type was toxin, corrosive, or viral I might consider it but otherwise everything it is good for the Amprex does better.
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>>168481527
no shit you're going to do more damage by using a damage mod instead of punchthrough
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>>168482229
Well the baro selfie isn't plat at least
>>168482283
To be fair it can be better single target thanks to riven disposition, but considering the chaining is Amprex's main appeal in the first place.
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>>168482150
>the math explicitly says otherwise
though he didn't do one for real dps the on paper perfect accuracy examples have argon scope doing more than bladed rounds
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>>168480440
>In the original redcrit meme post I LITERALLY spelled out everything

this is the post that started it, then you continued on the 2nd thread. :^)

If I was you, I'd be editing this post with greentext everywhere
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>>168482058
>Dual Tox on mesa
is that actually a thing? i thought it was just kind of a joke.
also
>corpus armor with grineer skin
>weapons being out when holstered instead of hidden
but why
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>>168482193
Pure autism. I would bet my LIFE that DE has NEVER EVER NEVER NEVER even ONCE calculated DPS
>DE: That's for the players to do
And this is why you're game at it's core is completely broken and boring as fuck. Enjoy the next 2-3 years of banking $$$
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>Play high level spy with ivara
>IDENTIFIED: Ivara Blueprint
T-thanks i guess
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>>168482000
Ah okay. Thanks anyways dude. I want to say something witty with tentacles or whatever but I'm too tired for that.

>>168482106
The Synapse used to be good. Now it's not. It's tentacles though. Pretty much just tentacles and nostalgia. And I don't like how amprex looks. Looks nice with Nidus.

It's not V polarity is it?
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>>168482379
The original post is the long post with the anime picture that goes into the math
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>>168482193
>next level autism

friendo, have you noticed which kind of hungarian basket weawing board we're on?

It's not kspg or ksg or spengies, I'll give you that
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>>168482106
It's kind of like the Lightning Gun from Quake. Single target damage, plus it focuses on crit. However it's an ammo hog and isn't too relevant in the current damage system, you need a specific riven to make it work. Mine works in sorties, but I risk running out of ammo quickly depending on the mission type.

plus it makes a cute SUCC sound when you reload
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>Atlas finished today
>Mirage, Nidus and Titania left to get
>A tiny fraction away from MR 16

I feel like I'm almost at the end. What happens when there are no more BRAND NEW frames to get? Sure I can aim for the Primes too but they just wont be as refreshing.

And what happens when I dont wanna MR grind anymore once I'm MR16 and able to use all the Rivens? Do I just pack maxed weapons like a bawss to even level 15 alerts?
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>>168482420
Dual Tox with Mesa are like retardedly strong.
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>>168482375

Perfect headshot accuracy and Argon Scope don't go to well together in practice though.

>>168482361

I think a change to the base damage type and innate punch-through up to the maximum range of the beam would be enough to get me to use it on some maps. Mostly Infested ones, admittedly.
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>>168482317
>build with argon scope and shred does more damage than the build with bladed rounds and shred
I bet I could still find your post on the forums "always use bladed rounds instead of argon scope, its just the best"
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>>168482283
>>168482361
Keep in mind the Synapse came out before the Amprex, they're not meant to do the same thing, even if the Synapse is lackluser in its role comparatively.
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>>168482481
>I removed most important part of my post
I was actually trying to say when I load up WF I'll check it's polarity for you, see if you want to trade some shitty other riven for it.
>looks good with nidus.
you might have made me keep it, now.
>>168482575
Never played quake, but thanks for the info.
>>168482651
I'll try it if mine are potatoed. Just go 3 element+crit for maximum peacemaker, right?
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>>168482442
>Play it again
>Ivara Neuroptics
why do people say that she's difficult to get?
i literally got half an ivara in 2 missions
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>>168479852
If I post the long explanation of how your shit has been called out time and time again, a certain retard aka (You) is going to claim that those things never really happened and I don't want to talk about how to search an archive with retards. Just search the archives for all the times you've been completely BTFO it should be easy to find
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>>168482560
I know. Hence the ":^)"

Two things wasn't mentioned though, in that post. Opportunity cost of pushing crits above say, elementals, and headshot crit modifiers and red crits being a bonus for those builds.

>>168482590
>And what happens when I dont wanna MR grind anymore once I'm MR16

>not wanting more loadout slots
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>>168482651

No they aren't, they're a pure meme.

DT builds do not synergise well with Peacemaker because Peacemaker is a crit weapon and Toxocyst is a status gun. The Toxocyst fire rate buff wears off and PM is plenty fast after a few shots any way, so to get the most out of DTs you need to take your headshot on a weapon with mods equipped to it that don't suit it, then burn energy to start PM, then drop out of PM to line up another headshot and start over.

Or you can carry a Lex P (any crit gun will do really) with mods that work for both it and PM and save your time and energy in PM mode by staying in it rather than constantly dropping in and out.
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>>168482746
Yes, 3 element+crit .
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is TQ dead yet
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>>168482912
>>168482590
forgot pic

>>168482651
they nerfed dual toxo buff on PM staying forever
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>>168482984
Unfortunately, no. We are not free of him yet.
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DE are stretching out this event
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>>168482893
The argon scenario, flooded if you don't want it

But yeah she's not that bad, sometimes it does take like 10 missions to get a piece when you want it, but that's like not bad.
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>>168482893
>Why do people say she is difficult to get
>RNG favored me so it favors everyone
I've never seen a single Ivara drop ever, I even did like 50 in a row and got nothing. Some people have gone even longer.
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>>168483142
>outlier even more so than that person is
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>>168482746
Lemme know if you decide to keep it and it's a v, but otherwise enjoy anon
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>Halfway done grinding Saryn Prime set
>Look up ingredients
>Requires 6 Nitain to build
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>>168483301
ur cute
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>>168483301
Better not grind for Vauban Prime.
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>>168483301
Welcome to hell Walker.
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>>168483319
say that to me too anon
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>>168482984
Not after my Ultimate Finisher!!!

SUPAAA

TUMMMIIIII

KISSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>168483445
You're ugly
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>>168483224
Go on goodle, look up Ivara farm, you will find people bitching about doing 100 or more missions and still not having a set.
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>TQ gets BTFO by someone even more autistic then him
>TQ has stopped posting
top jej
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Help me anons.
Vigor or Vitality on Chroma after Steel Fiber?
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>>168483531
Took me 176 missions to get Ivara. Worth the grind.
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>>168483527
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>>168483489
What the fuck am I looking at?
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>>168483593
What can she do that Loki and Ash can't? Do not bring up her ass. I already have an ass frame.
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>>168483570
The only way to fight autism is with autism. It's like chemo but more depressing.
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Should I build the vaykor hek for status or crit damage? Gut says crit
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>>168483646
I like her augment.
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>>168483531
Ivara was very strange for me. I did do a bunch of Spy along the way through the star chart and everything else in order to quickie level and get some important mods, however I never really got much Ivara stuff until I actually started to work for her.

Nowadays I get a bunch of parts every now and then just from random sortie Spys, enough for a few more Ivaras. Wish I could trade these to unlucky players instead of turning them into credits.
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>>168483579
>after Steel Fiber
Take this garbage off
SF is additive with ele ward i.e. not worth a mod slot
>Vigor or Vitality
Vitality is higher priority
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>>168483716
P R I M E D R A V A G E
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>>168483142
>Another neuroptics
i just want endo or golden mods

>>168483224
not lying famalam
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>go through 8 vault runs in a row
>my key didn't even need to be used once
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>>168481445
good point
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>>168483579

Vigour if you want the more reliable Vex buff.

Viltality if you want to be a better tank.
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You ever wish you were female, /wfg/?
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>>168483780
>Steel Fiber
>not worth a mod slot on Chroma
please stop giving advice
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>>168483743
Okay, I guess.
>>168483751
They really should be tradeable, I don't see why they aren't.
>>168483863
Do not mock the less fortunate.
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After practicing Kuva Spy over and over, I've realized that it's actually quite easy.
By running around under the map you can avoid pretty much all the cameras.

What's not easy, however, is getting to each of the spies. With a Loki I get oneshot and with a nidus with something like 800 armor I'm still getting oneshot by napalms and bombardiers as I rush the points.
As someone relatively new to sorties, are Inaros/Chroma/Limbo necessary for these kinds of runs? How to you tank the crazy damage you receive while trying to speed through the map? Or do you have to take it slowly?
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Question on slash weapons/procs if someone can help me out.

Say i'm using atterax, if I'm going for slash I want:
Relentless combo
weeping wounds
spoiled for more base damage
no buzz kill

if I'm doing just straight damage I'd do:
maiming strike
buzz kill
another damage mod.

Is it ever worth it to go halfway between each? ie. Go with option 2 but instead of extra damage mod do relentless or weeping?
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>>168484003

Why would Loki get one shot?

You're invisible.

I failed Kuva Spy once and the next time I was a bit more careful and did it just fine.
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>>168483784
Thought so, I already have it and two of the status dual mods. Anything else must have for a shotgun god to be?
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>>168483916
No, cause girls bleed down there and lose their value quicker than men.
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>>168483916
that's weird anon
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>>168484003
>With a Loki I get [hit at all for any reason]
there's your problem - learn to evade detection entirely by timing your movements and invis recasts, or be constantly disarming or moving to evade fire if you're playing with a team
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>>168484003
with nidus specifically, I think a max range build that just throws larva somewhere off to the side to turn off nearby enemies is better than trying to tank everything. if you're a quick hack just getting range/duration and plopping a fuckball should be good enough to get in and get out.
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>>168484003
Honestly, Ivara is best for spy missions.
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>>168483225
It is, and I haven't really decided yet. I re-rolled it once for some reason, does that matter? Only have 2 rivens, really haven't looked into them that much.
I don't think I care enough about it to rebuild the synapse, not when it would cost me 2 more forma just to rebuild and more mutagen masses I /am/ kicking myself for selling anything clantech, though
Ign is Gigglesworth if you want to trade for it. I'm not even gonna try and sell it, fuck rivens and their impact on trading.
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>>168483894
Goddamn I love how crisp Part 4 looked
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>>168483916
2D female? Maybe
3D female? Fuck no
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>>168484003
Kuva Spy was really disappointing after Lua, Uranus, hell even Earth Spy.
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>>168484190
Oh, based on the preview from buying the blueprint in clan again, it does look really goddamn good with nidus.
Good taste, there.
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>>168484169
fuck off you shitter
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>>168483916
god yes
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Paris prime is mastery fodder, right?
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>>168483531
The same can be said for any other Warframe in the game. It took like 80 runs to get the Saryn part for Chroma, thankfully before new Kela.

And anyone who doesn't take forever to get it doesn't post about it.
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>>168484169
>Go through with Ash
>done in a few seconds because he is so fast
>all the Ivarafags take eternity doing it
Not sure if I run into all the shitter Ivara but goddamn is she slow.
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>>168484346
>walking through lasers without having to worry about alarms or recasting stealth
she is shit RITE GUISE
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just scored this for 80p
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>>168483962
Retard
Steel fiber is 110%
Chroma with 250% power str gets a 375% armor bonus.
Chroma has 350 base armor.
With just ele ward, that's 1662 armor.
With SF too, that's 2047 armor, which is only 23% more armor, or 19.6% more EHP. That's pretty shit for one mod slot on Chroma.
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>>168484190
>>168479591 here, keep in mind that to get the most use out of it you'll not only need forma to build it but also a shit ton to properly forma it. I did it all during that Tennobaum bullshit but I imagine it'd take a lot longer now. I wish you could try it out, the 15m firing range isn't terrible but that combined with other factors could make or break whether you keep it or sell it to that other guy.
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>>168446456
Starter weapons somehow deal more damage. Go for Boltor and Skana.
Always keep moving. Always. Never go in one direction, change directions per action
Inaros eats people. Vae Victis
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>Still don't have Cernos lower limb
>Every fucking time it's a forma

Fuck, DE. I'm so close to being free.
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>>168484505
But at least with most frames, you always get at least one part, with her I have never got a single part, not one.
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>>168484528
>Akstiletto
>Not Aksomati
Eh
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>>168483301
Better keep that alert tab open, 10o
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>>168484516
ash is my go-to for quick missions now, loki only if I'm going to need ST or ID or the hush augment - being able to one-click delete something or toss out a camera/sensor bar killer on demand is nice and it appeals to my slightly more edgy sensibilities, though I remain faithful to the church of liki
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Check out my Damage Math

Vaykor Kek
1Shot + 1Enemy = 1Dead Enemy

White Damage, Yellow Damage, Red Damage
All Dead Damage
1 shot I win.

Mesa
1 Intensify + Activate Power = Everything Dead.

people are over complicating Warframe.
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>>168484572
kek I mixed two sentences together. Boltor isn;t starter but it deals more damage than Braton. Anyways, go for shit that has high rate of fire
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>>168483916
Think about what if sometimes
Then I remember that bodily functions are a thing

Then I remember I live in a city where rape's a daily thing on the news for college campuses
#notalllatinos
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>>168483579

Follow up question. I take it Steel Charge is shit on tank mode. Forma for Corrosive or Rejuv?
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>>168484526
>walking

that there is the problem

plus luci wants to slow down even more and advises for pic related
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>>168484650
Loki's got a nicer look than ash, so I stick to him regardless. Can't beat that hammerhead style.

Though if either of them got a graxx skin I'd probably switch to it immediately.
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>got Ivara in 10 runs
>got Equinox in 12 runs
>got Nekros in 5
>got Mesa in 4
>got all the other frames obtained from bosses in less than 7 runs each (back before we got the Kela de Tumblr rework too)
>Limbo was so quick/easy I didn't even know people had difficulty
>ran acolytes about 90 times total (across 3 events) and got 8 rare mods from them
>killed 100s of Sentients, only Vengeful Revenant I've ever gotten is from Tenshit
>sold drift mods I got from sentient hunting for quick plat
>whenever new primes are added I sell all I obtain for the first 2-3 weeks, and by the end of the month I have more than enough plat to buy them all 3x over
>40+ runs for Elytron (used to be C rotation Archwing Intercept)
>got a shitload of R5 Cores from trying to farm Elytron
>20+ runs for the stuff that used to drop from C rotation of Archwing Defense
>bought the Nidus bundle once I saw it was C rotation on JV bore puzzle

I've been pretty lucky, and most of the times I've really had to grind for something I end up with other good stuff. Sometimes its just easier to grind stuff to sell for plat then buy from the market.
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>>168484516
They literally have the same movement speed.
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>>168484495

Depends on what you like and/or have Rivens for. Rakta Cernos has probably dethroned it but for a long time the Dread and Paris P were about as good as each other.

>>168484541

>I don't understand Vex Armour: The Post

Are you TQ?
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Okay so I'm working on an Artemis Bow/Prowl build with Rakta Cernos, since I like its quick draw and syndicate proc

I have an Exilus Adapter which I guess I should probably throw Power Drift into when I forma, right?

Also I'll probably get rid of the status mods when I forma as well, but what should I remove for Speed Trigger or Shred? I read that Artemis Bow wants the quicker chargeup time and the punch through might be nice as well.
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>>168484541
>19.6% of 10s of thousands is pretty shit for one mod slot
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>>168484541
Scorn is a multiplier that affects Chroma's total armor[1] (e.g., with a maxed Steel Fiber and Intensify, Scorn will increase Chroma's total armor to a maximum of 350 × (1 + 1.1) × 3.5 × 1.3 = 3344.25 at rank 3). Scorn is applied after all additive armor bonuses have been accounted for, including the armor bonus from a Cold b Cold damage Elemental Ward.
http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Vex_Armor
READ THE WIKI
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>>168484836
I prefer Ash's long braid thing.
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>>168484928
>Armour
>Can't even fucking spell
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>>168484794

Corrosive Projection if you intend to take it anywhere high level. Rejuve if you don't, or are in a HAHA FUCK THE SQUAD mood.
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>>168484971
>Rakta C
Y'know artemis won't have the same quick draw, right

if you wanna go artemis you'll probably going to want RoF on your bow, at that point dread is probably better.
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>>168485040

Shockingly, not everyone who posts on 4Chan is a degenerate conditioned by "American English" to spell everything incorrectly.

Some of us speak and write actual English.
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>>168485101
charging artemis bow only affects the angle at which it shoots, its always full damage when fired
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>>168484794
Corrosive and Energy Siphon when you don't feel like Corrosive P.
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>>168484928
>>I don't understand Vex Armour: The Post
No, apparently YOU don't understand.
Vex armor is a multiplicative modifier. It's going to multiply whatever you had before vex armor.
If SF only gives you 20% more EHP, it's going to give you 20% more regardless of whether you have vex armor or not.

>>168485007
Yes, actually it is. QT+PFlow multiplies your EHP several times over. Power strength will give more EHP because it will improve both ele ward and vex armor. Hell, even a plain old vigor will give nearly as much EHP and has the added benefit of allowing vex armor to reach max without having to recharge any shield in-between.

>>168485015
What about it do you want me to read? Ele ward is additive then vex armor multiplies. The fact that ele ward is an additive bonus and massively overshadows SF is what matters here.
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>>168484920
>movement speed
>mattering
you sound slow
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>>168484805
First of all, that mod is shit
Second, with the augment you go pretty fast and you can still roll and run on dashwires
Plus, if you compared the time it takes an Ivara to walk through the room to the time it takes a loki or ash running through having to dodge every laser and scaner, i think Ivara would still make it faster
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>>168485156
Languages evolve. We got rid of the "u" in armor because it was fucking retarded.
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>>168484541
You're just embarrassing yourself at this point.
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>>168484752
There seriously needs to be more porn of that affront to god and science.
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>>168485156
oi britbong init like 7 am over there

TOP O THE DAY TO YE

>>168485184
Yeah, I was generally thinking about general use, not single target max deeps. I personally like hitting a few clumped up dudes with a charged shot compared to shooting thrice
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>>168485156
What purpose does the U serve?

>>168485219
Then you are even stupider than I thought.
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>>168485256
Not an argument
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>>168484971

I'm not a fan of Fleeting Expertise on Ivara because it messes up her Duration-based abilities when combined with a high-level Transient Fortitude. Your playstyle may vary.

I also favour the use of Paris Prime with Artemis Bow, because the 120% mod synergises quite well with both. Again, YMMV.
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>>168485303
that was my first reply to you, are you actually suggesting that a warframe's base sprint speed matters for true speed?
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>>168484920
If I remember, doesn't Prowl/Infiltrate only work while walking? Like Nyx and her bubble?
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>>168485305
It's a statement.
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>>168485189
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/431756-sci_ants-comprehensive-chroma-armor-build-guide-in-depth-with-calculations-and-results/
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>>168485306
Ivara generally has two different options for offensive builds. You can either use sleep arrows+CL finishers in which case you would want duration+efficiency (dump strength), or straight AB (str+eff, dump dur).
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>>168485374
It's slightly faster with her augment mod, you can spam roll, use her ziplines, ignore almost all of the sensors, and you should only be using it once you are in the vault anyway.
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>>168485026
I wish I could give ashp's arms to other frames. Those are just great.
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>>168485481
I'm not gonna bother arguing this until I test it myself, which will be never since she never drops, so whatever. Just saying most Ivara players I see walk through the entire thing.
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>>168485247
>First of all, that mod is shit

read what I wrote nigger

exactly my point, that mod is shit.

GKL likes it because he can't hack for shit on consoles

>Second, with the augment you go pretty fast and you can still roll and run on dashwires

Still can't bullet jump>>doublejump>aimglide>roll though, and dashwire can get fucked by geometry or DE's sleek coding

once you get it up it's grate though

>Plus, if you compared the time it takes an Ivara to walk through the room to the time it takes a loki or ash running through having to dodge every laser and scaner, i think Ivara would still make it faster

Depends on the room and switch teleport use from loki, some rooms prevent it going thru some don't

ash is fucked

I still like ivara doe.
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>>168485303

>What purpose does the U serve?

It lets you spell the word properly.

>>168485472

I mostly use her for spy runs and sorties, especially bow or sniper-only ones so duration matters more with my builds than efficiency.
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>>168485469
Have there been any significant changes tp vex armor since this was made?
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>>168485156
>Some of us speak and write actual English.
>It's older so it's more REAL
Speak REAL English then, you cuckold.
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>>168485727
not directly
only introduction of drift mods, the exilus slot, and energy conversion
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>>168485634
>get to that one grineer room on uranus
>oh fuck its the tiny hallway with 3 laser grids sliding up and down with no other way through
>just slam into it and run my ass off to the terminal room
>hack that shit in no time flat
>done before everyone else
Such is the way of Ash
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>>168485771
oh and energy overflow means efficiency doesn't matter, and no need for rage
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>>168485762
I wish I could talk old english.
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>>168485850
>No other way through
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>>168485275
I can't get physically aroused by it because whenever I hear her voice i'm reminded of the dorito goblin

It's painful.
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>>168485850
Get a load of this guy he doesn't know the 4 other paths in that vault
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>Identified: 3 Power Throws
wat
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>>168485931
It's the one with the huge convener belt that just teleports you back when you step on it. Stairs going downstairs and a huge glass window showing the room with the terminal in it.
No way above the glass as an invisible wall stops me.
Around the side there isn't anything either unless I'm blind.
And downstairs is one guard patrolling, a closed door that only opens once you are done and a small hallway with 3 laser grids that have almost no time to slip between.
I just brute force it and it works every time.
Is there any other way in? I should really check it out one day, but I only visit uranus when forced.
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>>168485469
Yes, I've read that, what's your point?
>He needs someone else to do math for him
Chroma with 250 str and vita will have 36k EHP.
With 250 str, vita, and SF you get 45k.
With 300 str, and vita, you get 50k.
It doesn't even take 300 str, you only need 281 str in this scenario to beat it.

QT blows other builds out of the water in terms of EHP anyway which you'd know if you actually read the thing you linked. Toss PF+QT in a build with 250 str and vita and it's 112k EHP.
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>want the grinlok to be good
>was even what my free TWW riven was for
>it just isn't
thirty rolls in and I can't get a decent mod for it

m-maybe I'll get something good by fifty

nyx's collarbones are pretty great
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>>168485850
>play ivara
>incredibly fast froggo running at very hihg speed
>get to hallway with lasers
>go through vent behind me
>drop down right on top of the terminal
out clASSed
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>>168485850
>hitting the lasers
git gud

besides, there are other ways through, just depends on how slow you want to go or what other bullshit (like water) you want to avoid
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>>168485962
NYEHEHEH
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>>168486108
There's an shitty sharkwing bit that takes you to the vault without triggering anything, but it's a much longer way around.
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>>168486220
even just imagining it causes me great pain
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Viral/Status build feels really good for Titania's Dex Pixia since her guns proc slash so much

Having more luck with this over crit/status
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Chroma
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>>168486291
JUST
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>>168486290
10% crit isn't worth building for, and if you want slash procs to really hit hard you might even consider slotting a trash mod like magnum force just because nothing but base damage/crit increases them
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>>168486115
>Chroma
>shitload of Forma
>at least 7 Forma, yes I'm serious
>exilus adapter
>make him cold, always cold
>299strength 45efficiency 34range 227duration
>steel fiber, vitality
>2 slots left for whatever, it doesn't even matter, Primed Vigor if you have it so your companion doesn't matter
>2 Arcane Graces
>Telos Boltace with Healing Return
>Zenurik with Energy Overflow
>QT is wasted slot because your health never gets low enough to use it
>Rage is unnecessary in almost every situation becuase you regain energy faster than you use it, if you get magnetic procced just drop an energy pizza
Invincible hurricane of slash procs
now you know how to chroma
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>>168486291
Also, if you feel like wasting more for forma and an adapter slot rush into the extra slot.

>>168486331
>Just Perfect*
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>>168486291
>SF
>Non-maxed BR
>Nothing in exilus
>Armored agility
>Esiphon
>No duration
I'd say you're pretending to be pretending but then I saw the name field.
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>>168486291

>armoured agility
>vigour
>rage
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>>168486159
That one gets fucked if you're not the host btw

>pubbing spy

sometimes I like to help my clanmates

and sometimes I click on an alert forgetting I was pubbing hieracon or something
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>>168486159
Good shit, I'll try that next time there is a sortie there. Literally the only spy mission I have even a tiny bit of trouble with.
>>168486152
Couldn't I just do that with any frame then? Plus there is no vent that skips the lasers on the one I am talking about.
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>>168486159
>not using his teleport ability to the vent
>he doesn't know
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Primed Steel Fiber
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>>168486269
Don't know where to find that, but I wont be using it, even if I do hit the lasers, nothing really changes, just the lotus starts bitching at me.
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>>168486159
What did you film this with?
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>>168486347
It's 15% and rapid fire.

>>168486386
>>Nothing in exilus
Opinion discarded

>>168486409
Armored agility, I like faster acceleration.

Vigor helps his damage.

>tank
>without rage
lel
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>>168486480
At the bottom of the stairs there's a door on the left, it's through there.
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Best place to farm Argon Crystal?
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>>168486565
see
>>168486370
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>>168486452

SF is a 10-rank mod and so far all the Primed ones have been for 5-rank ones instead.

Primed Armoured Agility is, I suppose, a possibility but why the fuck would you ever use it over Steel Fibre when parkour is a thing?

>>168486565

Or you could invest in a proper build with Narrow-Minded and Primed Continuity so your buffs stay up long enough to actually be useful, with Zenurik to handle your energy economy.
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>>168486682
The void. :)
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>>168486480
>less xp
>if all 3 people fuck the alarms up it'll turn into exterminate

There's also a non water path right up on the roof in the big area.
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>>168486370
>>299strength 45efficiency 34range 227duration
Or you could drop the TF and put in energy conversion instead so you get about the same str without penalizing duration.
>vitality
Wasted
>Zenurik with Energy Overflow
Far inferior to Naramon if you're doing a melee-centric build
>QT is wasted slot because your health never gets low enough to use it
If your health never gets low, why would you need SF? Even without flow/pflow, QT is still a much larger EHP increase than SF would be.

It's like you people don't even stop to think, you just look at a mod and say "me like this mod" and toss it on.

>>168486565
>>>Nothing in exilus
>when power drift exists

>tank
>without rage
Correct, Chroma isn't fucking energy hungry even with efficiency dumped fully. Not to mention it goes off of HP lost after reductions meaning it takes extreme amounts of damage to actually get a good amount of energy out of it on Chroma unless your build is shit.
The only time you might want rage is when fighting a long boss fight like Kela where there won't be energy orbs.
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>>168486682

Void maps with swarms of enemies. Defence, Survival, Intercept. Plus or minus whatever the level requirement for Vor showing up is now, fucked if I know what that is but he can drop it too.
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>>168486409
>Armoured
>Vigour
Please, the image has the correct spellings, there's no excuse for these mistakes
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>>168486552
relive and a script for ffmpeg that probably doesn't optimize for anything in particular and makes it look pretty bad with a lot of motion or whole-screen blur/other effects

>>168486438
I know, but that's not the point - it works great for anything with an hp bar but then you might as well just be using liki
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Primed Chilling Reload when
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>>168486835
press 1 and 3 for liki
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>>168486904

Not until after Primed Blaze.
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>>168486784
>Vitality is to boost Arcane Grace's affect on restoring EHP
>You don't need to be tanky if you're using shadow step
>SF makes each point of health worth even more EHP, boosting EHP directly and boosting the Arcane Graces effect
>Still 1 open Slot if you use Primed Vigor so you could put Energy Conversion for 349 strength
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>>168486746
Buffs lasting forever is boring as fuck anyway. You cast them once then go take a nap. They will still last like 20 seconds with that build.

>>168486784
>actually get a good amount of energy out of it
That's the point. There is no reason to use Chroma outside of ridiculously high-leveled shit.
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>>168486904
>110% cold and 70% reload maxed
>mod starts out costing -3 mod points and costs 7 when it's fully upgraded
Make it happen DE
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>Got Bullet Dance on my third run looking for it
I feel like I lucked out a bit there.
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>>168487003
>Vitality
My bad, I meant SF.
SF is wasted just by virtue of having such a small effect for a mod slot.
>Shadow step
Even without SS naramon is still better than zenurik for a melee build, not to mention Chroma is more than just tankiness, he's also a huge weapon damage multiplier.
>>SF makes each point of health worth even more EHP, boosting EHP directly and boosting the Arcane Graces effect
But SF has less effect on your final armor than getting more power strength would.
>Still 1 open Slot if you use Primed Vigor so you could put Energy Conversion for 349 strength
Post the entire build, I don't see where you would be getting 2 empty slots despite having SF unless you forgot something major.

>Buffs lasting forever is boring as fuck anyway
Buffs running out in the middle of something gets you killed.
>They will still last like 20 seconds with that build.
Which means if you stagger cast them you only have a 10 second window instead of 30 seconds to pick up an orb for energy conversion, not to mention it will take way more energy per minute to keep up.
>That's the point. There is no reason to use Chroma outside of ridiculously high-leveled shit.
But rage is just a waste of a mod slot when Chroma's energy upkeep isn't an issue to begin with because he casts two abilities a minute.
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Steam suddenly doesnt detect my Warframe and decides to reinstall.
Fuck me, I have limited poverty internet.
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>>168487359
Even with the buffs down you will have something like 80 to 90 % DR.

Why would you stagger cast them?
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>>168487518
>Why would you stagger cast them?
e n e r g y c o n v e r s i o n
don't tell me you give up 50 free power strength
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>Get ready to farm Saryn systems for Chroma
>get my index set on since I imagine the arena to be about that hard
>they all die in one shot from my basic gun
>lethal teleport isn't even needed
>my fucking hikou rend them
Time to break out Mesa I guess, mow em down as soon as they spawn.
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>>168487547
Absolutely. What do I need more for? Fucker never dies.
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>>168487359
Corrosive Projection, Power Drift
Vitality, Steel Fiber, Primed Vigor, Intensify
Blind Rage, Transient Fortitude, Primed Continuity, Narrow Minded

yeah, only one free slot, fucked it up because I forgot about intensify
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>>168487587
>Why would I not want to make my build better
Guess it's real shitter hours on /wfg/ right now.
>>
>>168487518

To actually survive in high-level content, maybe?

I mean your build will get you through Sortie-level stuff but is complete shit for anything more than ~10 levels higher than that. And the only reason it will work for Sorties is how good Vex Armour and Elemental Ward are when combined, not because the build itself is any good.
>>
Do i get equinox's aspects from regor too?
Also
>Equinox Prime when
>Have to farm 6 parts and 3 bp from 9 different relics
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>>168487630
If reload speed/holster speed actually scaled on strength instead of duration maybe I would.

Besides, it's not strictly better if it involves an extra step for negligible gains. If it's just gains without a drawback yes, but it's not.
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I foolishly deleted him when I got his prime but now he's back and better than ever! I missed my sweet baby boy geth so much. I'll never do him a wrong again.
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>>168487640
You must suck if you really believe that. It is a stronger build, just in shorter bursts, which is what you want for ridiculously high levels.

It's similar to why you build Frost bubbles for pure efficiency rather than EHP.
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>>168487626
You would want constitution in order to offset the -dur from TF and/or energy conversion.
As it stands, you have 78k EHP with that build.
If you were to simply switch SF for econv, you would have 86k EHP.
It's really that simple.
SF is just plain trash on a frame that has an xbox hueg armor modifier that is additive with SF.
>>
>>168487924
Energy Conversion requires me to pick up energy orbs at two different times to apply it to 2 and 3, and if my sentinel is dead that becomes a pain in the ass, that's also why I use Primed Vigor, so I don't need Guardian to max out Scorn.
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>>168478109
>muh vanity
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>>168487869
>It is a stronger build, just in shorter bursts
But it's not any stronger.
Even if I give it the benefit of the doubt and make that a primed vigor AND toss power drift into the empty exilus slot, AND max the blind rage, it's still less EHP than the build described in >>168487626 but with SF switched for EC.
It's 86k for that one versus 83k for yours, despite yours having worse duration.
The problem is that not having duration means you chew through more energy which means you end up needing rage, even with the BR only at R4 as shown in your build.
>>
I feel like a race traitor when I fight Infested as Nidus.
>>
>>168488163
I mean, if you look at it like that, you're *always* a race traitor.
>>
>>168488163
>>/pol/>>
>>
>>168488163
Which is good, because Ironically he isn't even best at fighting infested, he's good at grineer.
>>
>>168488120
>Having to pick up a single energy orb once every 30 seconds is such a huge downside, totally not worth 50 power strength on a frame whose EHP scales quadratically with it
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>>168488140
I think my BR was actually rank 6 instead of 4, and to be honest, the build was made before Zenurik was a thing.

I am mainly just recreating it from memory. Also you have to take into account DR reduction inside nullifier bubbles, because you will eventually be clipped by one.
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>I main x
>>
I'm moderately proud that it's actually being called staggered casting in relation to Chroma's buffs since I'm the one that originally advocated for that.
>>
>suddenly have the idea to do crit zenistar with adarza and naramon
>zenistar doesn't trigger shadow step
fuck and it was so close to being cool
at least berserker worked I guess
>>
>>168488365
I main Nova Prime, what's your point?

>>168488342
Relying on RNG is never a good idea.
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>>168488342
its only 8k extra EHP, and I'd have to use a different build for bosses and events, which would require me to build a whole new chroma then forma it
if picking up orbs isn't a big deal to you bring a nekros with you and use health conversion, the armor goes fucking nuts
>>
So, I just started this game with a bud about a week ago. Mastery 5, Rhino almost done building, friend has Trinity and is building Oberon.

Should we just go at our own pace and have fun for now or dive right into the autism?
>>
>>168488525
>Relying on RNG is never a good idea
Yes, because the build totally falls apart if you happen to not get an energy orb for a protracted amount of time.
If you can go 30 seconds without getting a single energy orb your clear speed probably sucks.

>>168488545
>and I'd have to use a different build for bosses and events
No you don't, you just swap out the EC for rage. It's even the same polarity. Bosses are never post-DEAC so you don't really need as many fucktons of EHP for them.
>>
>>168488871
>Should we just go at our own pace and have fun for now
yes
>>
>>168488871
Find what little fun you can in this game and hold onto it while you can.
>>
>>168488932
Corrosive Projection (no polarity) Power Drift (no polarity)
Vitality, Steel Fiber, Primed Vigor, Intensify
Blind Rage, Transient Fortitude, Primed Continuity, Narrow Minded
those main 8 all have matching polarities, switching SF for EC would not fit
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>>168489126
For that build you would swap TF for EC since you would only lose 5 power strength but you avoid the downside of TF.
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>>168489205
the downside of EC is worse than the downside of TF once your sentinel is killed, I'm not gonna stop killing to look around for orbs to slide through
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Neat.
Was easier than I expected.
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>>168488932
>still pretending like nulliiers aren't a thing or like you will be instantly clearing rooms with level 300 enemies

To be honest, it sounds like you did the math but never actually tried it, which is why you are only comparing them at their highest point (i.e. assuming your powers will never be down or that you will always have an orb right when you want it).
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>>168489250
>I'm not gonna stop killing to look around for orbs to slide through
Perfect, because you generally pick them up just by melee sliding around into enemies.

>>168489471
>Being so shit you somehow accidentally clip nullies
If you really care about EHP with both buffs down then you'd be going QT+PF anyway.
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>>168489515
if I forma'd my exilus slot I could use EC instead of Intensify, that might actually be worthwhile
both buffs are still nearly a minute with TF
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>>168489515
QT is a math/noob trap.

Nullifiers bubbles clip through the environment. One can spawn right above you and nail you through the floor with no warning.

Like I said, it's pretty obvious you never actually tried putting any of this into practice.
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>10h left until nekros prime is done building
How shitty is my SOS build? I want to not completely screw up my nekros prime.
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>>168489669
plus that build gets really fucking close to 99% DR
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>>168489471
>you will always have an orb right when you want it
You have a 31 second window to pick up an orb if your buffs last 62 seconds.

>>168489672
>QT is a math/noob trap.
No, it's not.
>Nullifiers bubbles clip through the environment
You know what else clips through the environment? The very distinctive sound they make.
>it's pretty obvious you never actually tried putting any of this into practice
I'm not even the same guy.
Let's compare chroma XP, shall we? The kill count is meaningless since it just counts frame kills, but the XP amount tells you something.
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>>168489909
>>168489909
>>168489909
New Thread
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>>168489945
>No, it's not.
Really? "Nuh-uh," is your big retort?
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>>168443990
Is this Warframe actually any good? I've never played the game but I'm getting in just because of how sick and lewd it's design is. Plus I'm a bowfag.

Can it be bought with platinum? What should I spend platinum on?
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>>168490575
Platinum or more platinum or slots
You get Ivara from Spy only
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>>168490575
>What should I spend platinum on
Slots or capital for jewing so you can make more plat
>>
i don't understand the MR14 test
i just... kill 38 enemies?
no timer?
no conditions?
>>
>last hotfix lets me remove Nova's nigger rings and give her back her butt and belly
Aw yeeee
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