/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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Are offensive miracles still shit, I asked!

what the fuck do I level as a sorc

>>168441678
Sunlight Spear and Lightning Stake are good, but that's it.

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>>168441181 >>168441678
Sure is

>invaded by some dual wielding bleed autist who obviously watches too much anime

jesus christ

>>168440352
Please respond.

>>168441678
Pretty slow for how close your enemy needs to be to get hit. Lightning spears aren't worth chucking but are devastating as melee spell. Also AoE spells in general are pretty unreliable. Also, melee damage miracles need shield piercing because its stupid for divine pillars of light to be block by a shield. Way of white corona needs its trajectory fixed.

>>168441859
Yuria, yes
Sirris, I'm not sure

>invade fag
>runs away back to bonfire to summon backup
>kill back up
>runs away and chugs till he can spawn backup again
These people are so fucking shit you have to wonder how they even got to this point in the game.

>>168441939
ummmmm maybe by summoning backup repeatedly

>>168441939
>>runs away and chugs till he can spawn backup again
you answer your own question

>>168441749
top fucking kek

>>168441765
Bloodbite+1, Artorias shield, ironflesh, exile set, fleshbite +1
Become invincible

>>168442006
>>168441994
then how did he beat the Road of Sacrifices?

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>>168441939
That's why i love low-level caster builds.

>>168441939
>Invades
>Expects some fair play

You're there to fuck someone else's experience so you really can't ask for much fairness

>>168441939
That makes me think, would this make cloud spells viable for invasions, if you just spray the bonfire zone with poison and/or frostbite so that they can't even get close to it to summon backup?

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Anyone wanna help me kill Dancer early so I can grab Blessed Weapon?

>>168442074
I'm turning on my refrigerator

>>168442151
he's already ruining his own experience by being a co-op bitch

>>168442151
This. As much as I hate to say it, you invaded THEIR world.

>>168442214
they last too little
if they stayed for a minute, then it would at least make some faggots think before summoning

>>168442258
>>168442261
PC
pw "regen"

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>>168442287
never gets old

>>168442385
Sign is outside the door

>>168442563
Coming

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pus of man is humanity turning into dragons.

ringed city knights wear dragon armour because humanity = serpents = imperfect dragons.

>>168442627
But abyssal creatures hate fire and ringed city guardians are using it.

Is there a way to replace music tracks in Dark Souls 3? I want to change all boss music to songs from the Rocky movies.

>start fight with Sully
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffFBdWBp0NE

How do you drop off ladders in DaS3?

>>168442959
Press B without moving.

>>168442959
Center left thumbstick, press roll.

Doing exile cosplay, great curved sword or great club ?

>>168442859

even kalameet breaths fire anon.

>>168442627
Dark is the opposite of light, Deep is the opposite of disparity.
Dragons are a symbol of the deep as they presided over the time before disparity.
Golems like the ds1 iron golem are made from part of a dragon, and giants have hollow faces like golems.
Killing the ancient dragon in ds2 got you a giant's soul.
The cathedral of the deep kept several giants.
Giants = golems made from dragons

>>168443225
SL? and why not both?

>>168442623
Why does everyone in this general have Internet connections from Ethiopia?
Summon me again but don't walk into the door right in this time, I want to drop you something

>>168442385
Just put my sign down too if you need.

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>summon can't go through fog
>instead of crystaling out they just leave me with the buffed boss, wasting my embers

>>168443286
dark and light is disparity though, that's the whole point of the end of the age of stone dragons

>>168443338
Between 80 and 90
In fact i just want a thicc build

>>168443384
>picking up ANYTHING from people on PC
>from dsg
Yeah nah. Just BC home if you cant go through.

>>168441723
Faith and luck.

>>168441859
Sirris and Yuria both die at the end of their questlines anyways.

>>168443410
If they leave the boss will still be scaled for those players that are now gone

how do I hit people with the MLGS weapon art
do I have to free aim it and hope for the best?

>>168443386
lol, that went well

>>168443619
that, or do it in their face point blank and hope they spaz out

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>>168443606
Yeah, but I can Bone back and not waste and ember.

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>>168443619
lrn 2 space

>>168442859

not all imperfect dragons are abyssal like the pus of man anon. serpents are merely dark, and wyverns are almost indistinguishable from a perfect dragon.

yes I'm implying turning into a wyvern is a unique aspect of humanity and is why ringed city knights feature a blend of dark and dragon designs.

Reminder that the Undead Legion was an entire military dedicated to fighting the abyss, inspired by tales of Artorias.

The Abyss Watchers were the elite special forces of this army.

The Crystal Sages and their disciples served as the air support or navy equivalents

The Followers are part of the military police for the undead legion, created to hunt down Legionaries that succumbed to the Abyss.

We have not seen:

the primary fighting Force/Frontlines support (Harald Knights)
the commander, or leader(???)

expect these things to arise in dlc2

>>168443435
I didn't say anything to contradict that
I suppose to clarify I should say that dark is a subset of the deep affected by disparity, but now the fire has faded so much that the deep is prevalent once again

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>>168443823
>the leader of a host of Artorias fanboys
>implying it could be anyone else

>>168443823

undead legion is over anon.

DLC2 is about the pilgrims and the nature of man

>>168444019
ITS CIARAN

REMEMBER THE GOLDEN DUAL BLADES CUT CONTENT
AAAAAAAAAA CALL VAATI

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>>168443823
>an entire military dedicated to dying to the abyss, inspired by lies about Artorias.

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>>168444019
>abyss watchers being founded by someone dead centuries of not millennia before the abysswatchers came to be
Ciaran would know that Artorias used a shield.

>>168444019

fun fact: artorias was human

Thank you, Galen.
Kisses <3

>>168444019

>Artorias had a gf

Did Ornstein leave to go on a waifu quest?

>>168444339
>>168444019
>>168444223

>ornstein is the leader of a group of 4 knights
>everyone jerks off over artorias (the only one to fail at his duties) because he was cool

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profane flame

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>>168444482
>abyss is growing to be a serious problem
>dragons are nigh extinct
>anti-abyss force idolizes the legend of a knight who fought the abyss over the legend of a dragonslayer
Really gets the noggin joggin

>>168444482
Gough was the only good member of the 4 knights.

>tfw constant hackusations

how fucking shit do you have to be to blame getting flawlessed by an ultra user that can only 2h his weapon?

tired of fighting retards that think it's impossible to midroll in full havel's + fugs at meta levels

>>168444730

how would you know ornstein was bad? did you ever have a conversation with him?

>>168444293
No problem, glad I could help some.

>>168444901
>did you ever have a conversation with him?

How could he when Ornstein abandoned his post?

>>168444901
he looks like the attack and ask questions later type of guy.

>>168444482
>(the only one to fail at his duties
Ornstein deserted. That's worse.
Gough and Ciaran are the only two that aren't shown to have failed Anor Londo from what I recall

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>>168445056

?

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>try to kill dancer early
>fail for almost 40 minutes straight
>start to feel bad about myself
>decide to quit for today after this try
>kill her
It's a complex kind of feel.

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>>168445175
It was another one of Gwyndolin's illusions.

>>168441939
Nothing better than a butthurt invader

>>168445175
>He doesn't know

That ornstein was an illusion. We've never actually seen the real Ornstein.

>>168443692
you can also crystal them out yourself ya know

>>168445527
>>168445491

so an illusion is capable of both:

a. absorbing the soul of a real being
b. dropping a soul

>>168445653
The soul was an illusion as well, same with the weapon you can create from it.

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>all out of estus
>bonfire just ahead
>suddenly invaded
how come I never get to invade ridiculously favorable situations like that?

>>168445653
>a.

Correct.

>>168445763
>>168445653

why does ornstein grow bigger when he absorbs smough, but you don't grow bigger when you absorb smough?

>>168445812
Because the player is a piece of shit and it is completely unviable from a design perspective to have the player growing huge like that.

>>168445527
>mfw we find him randomly in DLC
>talks about knowing Ariandel for a long time
>he's Irish

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>second phase abyss watcher
>Astora greatsword
>continually knock him over with R2
>repeat until dead

???????????

>>168445796
>>168445763

what if the chosen undead was an illusion the whole time?

>>168445910
>potatoes can conduct electricity
>Ornstein has lightning powers

It's like poetry

>>168445913

the abyss watchers are human anon, no shit you can knock him down. you can do anything to them you can do to a player.

>>168445653
Why not? The other illusions in Anor Londo also drop equipment, don't they?

>>168445937
All the events of DaS1 are a fever dream in Solarie's mind as he's burning up while linking the fire.

>>168445913
>>168446093

>finally reach the king of the ruined capital
>it's the furtive pygmy
>he's the same height as you
>it's an npc battle

>>168444236
He was more likley a part of gwyns race, whatever they are

Is it normal to have an easier time parrying online people (duels) than normal PVE enemies just cause lag?

>>168446272
>2nd phase is a primordial serpent pus of man erupting out of his body

>>168445653
The soul you get was given to hym by Gwyn, not his own soul

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Show me your thicc builds dsg

>>168446275

king of drangleic was human and was like 3x as tall as gwyn

pygmy =/= human, apparently, and artorias both wore dark armour and was consumed by the dark like a human would be.

>>168446184

If time is convoluted and time is warped in different realities because the curse is fucking up the fabric of reality then doesn't Ash have to literally go to the end of time/universe to end it all?

Also what's with the stars in Darksouls, what are they? They all go dark too (see untended graves).

The curse is a cosmic horror, it's shit up the Universe.

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Is she /our girl/?

>>168446714
Hell no.
She's mine

>>168446714
ADOBE SLABS
FOR MUH GUUUUURLZ

>>168446572

brass armour + pontiff crown

>>168446605
>If time is convoluted and time is warped in different realities because the curse is fucking up the fabric of reality then doesn't Ash have to literally go to the end of time/universe to end it all?

yes, that's what the kiln literally is, the end of the world/the end of time. when the DLC2 trailer says the ringed city is located at the end of the world, they mean the end of time.

>Get summoned for duel
>Host emotes at the sky
>Look there
>Naked guy with Xanthous head floating in the sky
>Before I realize what's going on, 100 arrows fall and hit me

okay that was kinda funny

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>>168446714
keep her all you want, this girl princess is mine

>>168446994
Wait until you encounter an AC-130 cosplay in Irithyll

pcfcbf

need FOUR MORE SUN MEDALS to plat ds2 im outside demon of song NG+

pls summon

>>168446601
We've only seen his armor after he was fucked up by the abyss

It's kinda depressing how everything is dead, gory, and or monstrous in DaS3, even though I'm sure that's the point. DaS wasn't afraid to have fantastic stuff like crystal golems, talking cats, or dancing magic guys.

>>168446601
Ciaran hates humans, and she wouldn't be in love with him if he was one

MAKE POISON GOOD AGAIN FROM

DO IT

Why did they make it so weak? Because newfags can't get moss at low levels? In that case why did they give us DSA?

>ornsteins armor in 3 looks like it's made out of cheap plastic
>still no plume/hair/whatever

Could have just given us dragonslayer armors armor and the "dark" moonlight set instead of ornsteins and smoughs armor to be honest.

>>168447359
Platform and sotfs?

>>168444236
>>168446601
WE WUZ ABYSSWALKERS N SHIET
Humans are the blacks of Dark Souls.

>>168447621
But humans actually accomplish things and build civilizations in Dark souls

>>168447621
>Humans are the blacks of Dark Souls.
>Implying it isn't the literal WE WERE 4KANGZ
>Implying it isn't the everlasting dragons

Desu
Ugs and machete type ga should block by holding the hilt high and covering the body with the length of the blade, kinda like raime and guts do
/desu

>>168447487
>comfy knight armor looks like cheap plastic in Dark Souls 2 as well
>looks good on 3, but you only get at the end of the game

It's not fair

>>168447416
what did he mean by this

>>168447359
sm?

>>168447808
You get brain cancer if you play these games

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Thank fuck I didn't pay more than $15 for the season pass.

I would have been pissed as hell if I paid full price for Ariandel.

Seriously, what was From thinking when they made this? There's barely any new gear, barely any new armor and just one proper boss fight.

>>168448045
they had to get the money for ringed city somehow, I guess

>>168447487
>could've added the plume
>still no plume
>could've given us good deadagain now that we have ragdolls again
>nerfed to shit and half the enemies disappear like in ds2
>finally gave us poison infusions in a game without horrible matchmaking
>poison is 100% fucking worthless.

>>168448045
FRIEDE

BRING ME MAHFLEYL

>>168448045
at least they didn't pull an old hunters

>>168447416
>tfw too intelligent for bloodborne

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>mfw retards who say DS2 is bad

Why can't people see the way From improved the combat substantially from Demon Souls and DS1? There is literally no weapon or moveset variety in either of those two games. Also, PvP is significantly improved in Dark Souls 2

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How do you counter a pyro using fire surge in the arena? I have to run around the flame and approach them from the side but then they just roll away and repeat.

i tried to get back into ds3 after a while, and i'd forgotten how bullshit the input delay is. is there any way around it? all i see on google are complaints on gamefaqs

>>168448045
It actually adds more new weapons, an equal amount of new armor and nearly the same number of new spells as AotA did for DaS1.

>>168448357
wait until they burn through all their fp and recovery?

>>168448316
You mean from's best DLC?

>>168448316
Old Hunters was amazing what are you talking about?

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Can someone give me a quick and easy build for Anri's Straight Sword? Sorry if I seem lazy, but I'm still new to DaS3 and don't know anything about Luck.

>>168448472
It was broken when the game first launched but its meh at best now.

Is the sunlight covenant the only one that rewards co-op?

>>168448349
I don't know, it might just be super polarizing. As far as the raw gameplay goes it was always a huge step up from DaS1 for me.

>>168444176
Still bothers me that he took all the credit.

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>can finally complete my sister of battle cosplay
can't wait for the DLC

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>>168448316
>at least they didn't make something good this time

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>>168448357
bash their shit in with a shield or roll in and roll out to bait the BF.

>>168447534
ps4 and yes

>>168447871
4 mil

>>168448537
Just Anri's Sword or is luck at least still viable to the point I can at least have fun? I can settle for moderately lethal. Can't be worse than whips I guess and I think those are kind of fun weapons despite the agonizing flaws.

>>168448638
>he took all the credit
He didn't have any say in that. Blame Alvina.

If the parallel universe/time-space fuckery is caused by the fire fading, would linking it erase all branching paths from existence?

>>168448702
Why do people just full on give up like that in the arena?

>>168448841
Yes, refer to the shortsword description.

>>168448349
Because the pvp is the only thing they did right.

>SM
>shitty "lore"
>SM
>no atmosphere
>SM
>super game-y pve
And have you gone back and looked at the game lately? The graphics and model animations are fucking horrible.

>>168448841
You would have no way of knowing if they still existed or not because the connection would be gone.

>>168448846
the fuck was he gonna do?

>>168448702
Why the fuck didn't he just wait it out? Silly fuck.

>>168448772
It does good damage, but you're better off going for a quality build in all honesty. Luck is better for bleed or poison builds honestly, there isn't much reason to be using it otherwise.
If you still want to use it, fiddle around on mugenmonkey until you get somewhere good at the level you want, pretty sure you can get it to around 500 AR at level 120 without fucking over your health and stamina.

What souls game has the best casting?
And why is it bloodborne?

>>168449435

>Bloodborne
>Souls Game

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Don't fuck it up from.

Sunlight spears on the homo brothers is just great, makes me feel like it slightly validates all that faith investment

>>168449494
You're just upset DaS casters will never get something as fun as Kos Parasite.

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>>168448841
Yes of course by linking the fire you are killing millions of innocents. By joining the Darkwraiths you are not only saving yourself you're also saving humanity and most importantly: our children.

>The Ringed City comes out
>at the end of it all acquire the Dark Soul
>go to Ludleth to see what it can be transposed into
>broken straight sword
>that's it
>nothing else

How mad would people be?

>>168450427
I honestly wouldn't mind, it'd be funny.

>>168450178
>tfw ringed city won't give us something as fun as Kos Parasite

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QUICK /dsg/ I need help finding some ideas of "pick up" lines for valentine card stuff, like pic related but with /ourguy/ Pontiff "if it's low test, put it to the rest" Sulyvahn

>>168450427
Some would be mad but some would also go into pendant mode.

>Playing through DS3 with a friend
>Just 2v1ing every invasion we get because dying wastes a ton of time
I kinda feel bad, it feels pretty lame basically ganking people who honorabu duels where one of us dies kinda eats a bunch of our time to play.

Out of curiosity, do invaders see cutscenes the way phantoms do? Because I just married Anri while an invader was in my world and he seemed to know exactly where I was afterwards.
Resulted in a climatic duel over her corpse, it was actually pretty cool.

>>168441749
>stand next to enemy mobs
>try pillars of light
>only one gets hit

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>>168450652
Something about "burning love takes root within me" or reference some other item descriptions related to him.

>>168450724
who cares, people take the pvp in this game way too seriously

>>168449757
Where did you get that?

>>168450427
Does it have a unique skin and lore?

>>168451119
ds3 wikidot

>>168450724
It's fair as long as you're not giant seeding.

>>168450652
I'd lock you in a tower and feed you last to my slime, cutie

>>168450427
the final meta

>>168451248
Anything goes in invasions

>>168450427
>it has a batshit crazy moveset, literally bloodborne tier like valorheart, crow talons, or friede's great scythe.

>>168450427
>another ss
>more broken than any other
I'd be mad

>>168451326
he can do what he wants, I just think it's more or less a fair fight if the invader has mobs on his side

>>168450724
I've let one invader kill my friend so far. He left humanity for him in a prism stone circle for him and then tried to 1v1 me. Friend jumped in and tried attacking him so I let my bud r1 spam him, get parried, and die.

He needs a little pvp experience and nice invaders are rare.

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QUICK. Post yfw
>you are being summoned as a Blade of the Darkmoon

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>decide to try to get tongue for leonhard earlier than usual
>invading at highwall just after killing vordt
>no upgraded weapons and only two 2 +0 flasks as a phantom
>first invasion is a countertwink and a phantom
>second and fifth invasions hosts pull the plug before i even find the host
>third and fourth invasions hosts have two passworded downscaled phantoms
>out of eye orbs
I understand why people twink now

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>Start a pyro
>everything is going well, it's really fun
>halfway through catacombs
>realize I have to do smouldering lake and demon ruins next

And suddenly I don't want to play anymore

>>168451910
>be summoned as blade today
>ariandel
>pussy invader trying to greatbow snipe solo host
>give him my obscuring ring
>we make to boss without ever being found
>he BCs out

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what's the lore behind this?

>>168451463
As someone who never did pvp above level 25 I finally started doing mid/higher SL invasions and the ganks are numerous.

They were annoying at low levels but with lower scaling you didn't have 3 guys all using ultras/GS with a mix of annoying spells, high poise and having decent vig they had to give up something.

I still have fun and beat them now and then but some fights I kick myself for just not black crystaling out, I literally can only win some fights by spamming avelyn shots and firebombs.

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>>168451910

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>2017
>there are still people, in this very general even, that complain about twinking and the caestus

Wow, good job idiots.

>>168452136
Dragon eye, possibly a GoT reference.

>>168451985
can't you just rush to irithyll dungeon?

>>168451985
Suicide rush to get to the chaos pyromancies, so you can get Chaos Fire Orb. Just keep going until you get Karla, get the dark pyromancies, and then breeze through. Or alternatively use dark sorceries.

>>168452268
He'd be missing the best pyromancies if he does that

Takes literally 10 minutes to just rush through smouldering lake to get the 2 tomes and defeat the boss though

>>168452268
What's that supposed to achieve?

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>>168451910

>>168452453
The boss is near impossible on pyro builds, since you won't be doing any damage.

You can cheese him with toxic, just make sure that you summon the pyro lady, and that SHE DOES NOT die. If she does, suicide, since you lose out on a pyromancer set.

>>168451043
Something related to root/tree sounds great, thanks Anon

>>168451256
Lovely <3 Thanks, other Anon


Any more ? pls

>>168452621
>gold pine resin ASS
>spam R1

Wooooooow

>>168451910
>be summoned as cop
>OH GOD YES
>remember that I already have DMB

Why is the black blade the second heaviest katana? It's so fucking small

reeee

>>168452820
You can also use any other kind of magic because a pyro build is basically an omni-caster

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>>168451910
>shitshitshit gotta take all this itemfind gear off
I remember this happening when I got summoned to the kiln once. The host wouldn't help and the red wouldn't let me finish changing my gear.

Fuck that asshole.

>>168450724
>duels
>in invasions
people who think like this need their saves corrupted. look m8, everything goes in invasions. Even summoning 3 phantoms+ blueberries with seed active. It's bullshit and retarded, but it's miyazaki's or whoseever works on pvp job to fix it. If you want to not be a cancerous asshole just: don't seed if you're not alone and don't start rolling all over the place summoning more phantoms when your previous ones die

Where's that pic from fextralife about pvp ""rules""

>>168452906
You don't have anything else to use then

>20 int arrows without ring

>>168452457
free karla, gain access to dark pyros, melt the demons?

>>168447419

ciaran was a tsundere whore.

>>168452906
What's the best talisman, chime and staff for pyromancers? Is it crystal chime in general, discounting dark spells.

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Anyone on PC have a Carthus Curved Greatsword or a Cathedral Knight Greatsword up for trade?
I've got a good handful of boss souls.

>>168452997
honestly the only thing I can't stand is the giant seed. i'd like at least some kind of timer or animation with summoning phantoms but if they could just remove the giant seed from the game entirely i'd be happy.

it's the one thing that prevents me from being able to troll asshole pro ganks or pro lone hosts through an entire level if they're stubborn about abusing their many advantages to the most cancerous maximum. without seed i can at least fuck with them for as long as i please which would be good enough for me, even if it'd be impossible to actually win.

>>168453189
They're really easy to farm, why would you waste boss souls?

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>>168453131
>loyal to one man to the point of dying behind his grave
>never exhibits any tsundere behavior

>tsundere whore

>>168452091
>invader
>being a pussy
That was probably the only 1v1 or 1v2 invade he got all day. Its not being a pussy when you're regularly put up against 3-4 people.

>>168453440
I'd rather not spend an hour or so grinding for a weapon I want to test for fashion purposes.

>>168448472
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/146195
>1. Apply Carthus Rouge
>2. Spam R1
>3. ???

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>>168445491
>Smough
>Knight
I thought the whole deal with him was he didn't get to be a knight because he ate people

>>168444236
Are you retarded? The whole point was that being a god, he had great weakness to dark. Which is also part of the reason you actually can defeat Manus
>>168453352
Seed needs to make a world free for all. You take away my only backup, you also lose yours. Seeds should enable friendly fire (not affecting lockon, just potential damage) which imho should be a feature from the start. Not having to worry about hitting your ally not only helps ganks a fuckton, it also trivialises the pve with phantoms even more

>>168448349
Yeah, nah. Dark Souls 2 relied too much on spamming areas with enemies in lieu of having interesting enemy design, and every single area was boring as fuck.

Shrine of Amana is the only one that looks interesting, and even then it's a boring slog through a single linear path.

And the bosses are all shit. Looking Glass Knight is the high point of the game, and he only has atmosphere going for him.

Pretty much the entire game is a boring, poorly designed slog. The mechanics were good, although I hate having to dump points into a pointless stat just to get the same dodge as in the first game. It's a good shell for a game, but the content fucking sucked dick. The DLCs are the only saving grace in that respect.

>>168453854

I'd take nearly any fixes at this point but the sad thing in discussing these things is we all know miyazaki ain't doing shit to balance this game's PvP, ever. But I stick to SL70 +8 and below for invasions and honestly I don't even run into seed that often, very rarely in fact, so I just leave in those rare instances and it's no big deal.

>>168452621
>ODK is hard for pyros

He's weak to dark though.

>>168448825
I should've rephrased that, but yeah. Alvina is one to blame but what about Elizabeth? Didn't she also spread the lies about Artorias because people wouldn't be able to comprehend the idea of CU time traveling.

>>168451248
I giant seeded if they run away to mobs 3 times, I work off a 3 strike system.

>>168454098
>spamming areas with enemies in lieu of having interesting enemy design, and every single area was boring as fuck.
Sounds a lot like DS3 desu. Except the enemies in DS3 also act like withdrawing crackheads so going through each area is even more shitty.

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>>168451910

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>spend 4 hours on new character in DS3
>realize that it would be much better if I made it in DS2 because of the armor and powerstance
RIP 4 hours of my life

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>>168441528
So, Most annoying enemy in all souls games?

For me its the rats and their "never not be attacking" ai of DS1
Honorable mention to the Ice horses in Frigid Outskirts

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>>168451910
>spawn in
>host dies the second I take two steps
>mfw

>>168454471
I'm not saying DaS3 is any better there. DaS3 areas were just as forgettable and boring. But it did have better bosses.

Also, I like having an MP system much more than a limited uses system for magic. Other than that, they're both low points for the games.

DaS > BB > DeS > DaS3 >DaS2

>>168453815
One of Gwyn's four knights.

He probably was a pleb tier knight

>>168446356
anticipation is easier than reaction

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>>168454471
>DaS2 babby insulting DaS3 even when it wasn't mentioned in the post
>AGAIN
You can't make this shit up.

>>168453352
Make it only usable if you have no phantoms, boom imbalance fixed

>>168454840
I don't get how you could seriously consider DaS1 as better than BB or DeS.

>>168455071
>insulting DS2 but ignoring DS3 when it does bad things from DS2 even worse
>AGAIN
/dsg/

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Thinking of starting a mercenary playthrough and sticking with dual-weapons. Any tips?

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QUICK

You're suddenly invaded by Thine Exodus! As you are finishing off an enemy, you see your opponent appear from around a corner with pic related hovering over him, and carrying an Izalith Staff.

You must fight him with the last Dark Souls 3 character you've used.

How fucked are you?

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>stacks aura
>one shots you

heh.. nothing personal kid

>>168455242
Yes, this is normal. People will shit on DS2 for something that every other game does exactly the same, but it was only a problem when DS2 did it.

>>168455280
Sellsword twinblades are one of the best weapons in the game for stomping pve content so just stick with those and everything with be fine.

>>168455242
>the only argument they can make to defend their terrible game is "w-well dark souls 3 is worse!"
/DaS2babies/

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>>168455242
Consistently shitty encounter design is DS2's problem alone.

>>168455291
It's entirely dependent on the skill level of the invader
So anywhere from me crushing him to him crushing me

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>>168455484
>some group of shitty hollows is a problem for you
lmao git gud

Reminder that people can't figure out the difference between SOTFS and DS2
2 updated with DLC is better than SOFTS besides the player activity

>>168453815
Fun fact, he's called FourKnight_C in the game's files

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>>168455634
>completely missing the point
Good job, dumbass.

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>>168454934
If thats the case From needs to get their lore/shit together because they go to the trouble of saying he wanted to but never got to join the four, but in Ds3 the description calls him "knight"
Like nigga get your facts right From.

But I guess you can be a Knight AND an Executioner.

>>168455634
>people only call something bad design because they had problems with it
Lol scrub can't even get past lost izalith

What's the best way to use the Demon's Fist apart from not, Str/Pyro?

>>168455862
That isn't shitty encounter design

>>168456064
40STR first, then level INT and FTH equally

>>168455358
>allowing him to buff
>not staggering him with an ultra or an arrow to the face
BTW, were he and the silver knights such pinheads?

>>168456168
Pyromancer for starting class?

>>168456413
Most likely, but that depends. Make a build in Mugenmonkey and use the optimal class finder there.

>>168455883

the DS3 descriptions are wrong on purpose. smough and ornstein got morphed into one person

Who's canonically stronger, Artorias or Ornstein?

Is it just me, or is dex shit in DS3?

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Which chime has the shortest cast time in Scholar?

>>168456491
I forgot about the class finder, haven't done this in awhile

>>168448364
help

>>168456562
Probably Ornstein, he was the leader of the knights and wasn't a bitch.

>>168456630
>quills
>sellsword twinblades
>chaos blade
>friede's
no

>>168456562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4ohvvDo7no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q7pkitJ5Yg

>>168456814
>first fifteen seconds of the first video
TOP 5 ANIME BATTLES

>start a dexfag playthrough
>rapiers feel weak
>katanas feel weak
>twinblades are okay I guess if you spam L1 all day

How do people enjoy this, am I missing something?

>>168457607
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW2B3P3A_30

>>168457607
How far into the game are you and what do you mean by 'feels weak'? Most weapons outside of something infused with deep or fire in the early game aren't exactly going to feel like powerhouses.

>>168457607
I dunno I always hated dexfags, what about the washing pole?

>>168457607

DaS3 dex is basically discount quality.

>>168455943
>a gang of weak soldier hollow's in a predictable ambush is comparable to Lost Izalith
Y'all need to kill yourselves, desperately. Just stop playing Souls games if you're honestly crying about falling for "oh wow look an item I can just go and pick it up!".

>>168457607
You attack fast
You do a lot of damage
You can stagger most enemies because lolpoise?

How're lightning infusions on a pure faith character?

>>168457607
You CE in Crow Quills or just rush them.

>>168457810
any souls game's dex is a discount quality

>>168458015
What's good about this weapon anyway?
R1 is just normal estoc/rapier attack
R2 is normal estoc/rapier attack
L1 is cool looking but still way below R1 spam of any Straight sword
L2 is worthless trash

>>168457607
>get crow quills and offhand talons
>murder the fuck out of the entire game with zero difficulty up to ng+7 while being at SL60 max

>>168457843
>this reading comprehension
My point was that "git gud" isn't a good counterargument to bad design. I never said any level in DaS2 is as bad as Lost Izalith.

>>168457991
Not as good as just using the buffs you will have access to from your investment in faith.

are there any faith builds that work well in DS3 pvp?

I keep wanting to do a paladin cosplay but it always feels inferior to high vig/end and using a arsenal of weapons to counter everything.

>>168458062
Except for a select few weapons in DS3.

>>168458161
PVP wise it's good because normal estoc shit.
PVE wise it's good because it has a diverse moveset beyond normal estoc shit.

You can mix L1s and R's, do a huge backstep lunge, etc.

>>168457843
it is comparable in how much it lacks any creativity
ds2's encounter design constantly shits its bed by not even trying to actually rely on power of individual enemies, it can only spam hordes of samey enemies with no actual thought put into their composition

Is the any of the DLC any good? I stopped playing 3 after the first week of release. I love 1 & 2 but 3 didn't cut it for me.

>>168458410
It's shit don't get it

>>168458386
>PVP wise it's good

Any vid showing them? every time I've tried them I just get fucked to death against any straight sword or GS because they deal more damage or they have HA

>>168458410
get out and stay out

>>168458410
Sometimes I just want to die.

>>168458252
It is when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about to the point that you're calling a visible ambush of weak enemies bad design.
Being shit at the game or fighting more than one enemy isn't ""bad design"". I swear to God I'm going to fucking go blind from rolling my eyes every time some faggot unironically types artificial difficulty.

Also, early game Tower of Flame after DR kill or the first half of Lava Land are WAY better examples because you're forced to kite or stand in a fucking corner while 8 million weaboo warriors run up to you.

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>>168458646
>>168458863

>>168458451
Cool thanks senpai
>>168458646
That does not answer the question you fucking sperg

Post your waifus butthole

American time /dsg/ is such a fucking shithole, jesus.

fun fact: pinwheel was originally an early game boss that required you to rescue petrus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryRVozz4Zbs

>>168459362
>t. Asylum seeker from Europe

>>168458365
There's enough player skill based variables to allow you to win fights in pvp as a faith build

>>168458961
>Being shit at the game
>artificial difficulty
Lots of assumptions being made here. Difficulty of any sort had not been mentioned by anyone but you.

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>>168459305
Not my waifu, but couldn't resist posting a pic of me sending her off. Dumb bitch, you were the only thing standing between me and an early-game Obscuring Ring.

>>168459536
>ds3
>player skill
When will this meme end

>>168459536
list some please

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>invaded by two aldrich faithful
Is this my reward for not summoning three phantoms? I'm really not good at pvp,

>>168459656
The only one that didn't require player skill was DaS2.

>>168459704
I haven't got build advice for you
I'm telling you it's possible to win matches with an '''''''''inferior'''''''' build depending on player to player, which is completely true

>>168459815
*DS1

>>168459815
>(you)
>t. straight sword shitter

What's the most shitter weapon in the AoA?

Looks like the eurocucks are at it again

>>168459924
Friedes scythe

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>>168459305
Okay.

Most autistic outfit? I want to be a qt trap

>>168459924
Onyx blade.
>>168459362
>>168459473
>>168460009
>>>/int/

>>168460070
Fallen Knight armor

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Did anyone keep the templet?

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Fashion Souls time

>>168460064
*sniiiiiiiiif*

>>168459656
Almost all games require player skill, a lot of games rely on character skill too
Like it or not compared to a lot of RPGs souls relies more on player skill, all of these games do

>>168459904
DaS1 was the deepest of them all. The BS and counter-BS meta alone was more complex than any of the other games.

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>>168460160
>pre-nerf DaS2 backstabs
Please don't make me remember.

>>168460160
>open image in Paint
>place white rectangles over everything
You're welcome, you fucking moron.

>>168460176
Wait, that's it? That was your punchline?

I'm sorry I bothered.

>>168460237
>DaS1 was the deepest of them all.
>he's never played bloodbourne

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If anyone was curious on when would be a good time they should filter Lucy, >>168460237 now would be a pretty damn good time.

>>168460171
The right one is pretty horrible, the thrall hood ruins it all. The ornate, pompous chestpiece contrasts way too much with that fucking sack on your head.
The fur coat kinda looks weird on the left one, but it's passable.

>>168460425
>Bloodborne is the deepest of them all
>He hasn't played DaS 2

>>168460425
>BB PvP

It's fun but not deep at all anon. The only relevant thing to learn is which are the few actual good attacks in your weapon and learn to not use the bad ones

>>168460425
BB's PvP isn't very deep at all.

>>168460485
>gets rekt
>OMG everyone should filter that guy for kicking my ass!!!11ONE
lulz

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>>168460171
This is what I'll be wearing on my new build

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/146026

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>>168460528
Don't ever reply to me again unless your contributing to the general

Thanks for the (you) faggot

>>168460789
Here have another

>>168460641
I'm glad I'm finally filtering your stage 4 autistic ass.

>>168460832
No you I insist

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firelink altar contains a lordvessel with ashes in it

DEEPEST LORE

>>168460641
Saying the dumbest thing ever on /dsg/ does not equate to anything.
I used to think you were just an autist with a trip, but it's clear now that you are just a Master B8r with a name (for whatever reason).
You also suck at Dark Souls.

>>168460064
WHY
>>168460261
I liked it for the dual-wielding+poison and two-handed rolling attack. The rolling attack was so good that I started going into arena naked with nothing but a mundane dagger.

Then they nerfed it and I never played again.
>>168460297
Fuck that.

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>>168461118
Probably related to when you still had access to that half of the shrine

I'm kind of happy I found the cave piece that joins them together.

Also found a ton of unused geometry in the catacombs map folders, some of it is pretty different to the final product

Pontiff Sulyvahn has the best boss theme of DaS3, prove me wrong

>>168461480
dark souls is a pretty unique game in the sense that, cut content means cut lore. it really makes me think

>>168461698
>was even used for the trailer
I can't.

>>168461698

DaS3 doesnt have any good themes so thats not an accomplishment