/mhg/ - Monster Hunter General

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-CsPBkNqa3TZTcweWw2bEJydlU/view

Third for Barioth Best Cat

>no Isabelle butt post yet

>>168378586
He's too busying getting the tail end of a harsh deal.

>>168378539
Someone confirm this

Brave is confimed shit. XX hype all gone.

>>168378456
Damn it I keep forgetting to make new threads, I've been holding onto this one image for nearly a week.

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>>168378674
Here also if you want confirmed.

http://we.tl
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>>168378674
It's dolphin porn

quick, someone make a deal with the chinese so they can datamine the demo faster

>>168378674
One in the last thread was legit, I'll check that one in case it's delicious dolphin porn.

>>168378798
Excellent

>>168378804
Also good

>another demo where IG has a snail for a bug

guess i'll hop on the brave LS bandwagon for now.

Brave HBG is beyond stupid. You can chain like 3 staggers worth of damage before the monster can even make it to you. I simply can not think of how this will be balanced at all, the only reason it sort-of underperforms in the demo to not being stupid is because they give you no combines

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>>168378557
Love the CGI intros

>>168378674
>>168378857
Checked it, the file size is identical to the byte so I think it's legit. Don't feel like the fifteen minute transfer to my microsd and five minute install because microsds are shit tho. Worst case you have to restore an sd backup, anyway, best case it's dolphin porn AND you get the one pixel uploaded.

>Brave HBG rapid fire

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>>168378586
Priority on the demo.

So is there a written explanation of what's the basic gist of the new styles in XX?

Is the first option brave?

Don't have the demo, can someone explain the barrel shaking?

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>Brave HBG seige
MAXIMUM FUCKING DAKKA

>>168379401
Thanks anon, downloading as we speak

>>168379506
Brave style every weapon gets a block while sheathing, which turns into a perfect evade basically if you time it right or reduced damage if you don't, and the longer you hold it the more damage over time you take as well. Once you fill up a gauge (if you're a shitter who never CBed or Guard Lanced and doesn't know how to counter, you can get it up more slowly by just hitting the monster) you go into cuhrazy game mode and get a stupidly overpowered moveset where you move around really fast and do ridiculous anime shit. People thought the mvs might be weak to compensate but it seems to mostly be really strong (staggering monsters multiple times in rapid succession).

Alchemy lets you shake a barrel (not sure how, haven't tried it yet) to create items the longer you shake it. You can use the items (they're like normal items but with side effects, like a whetstone that is also a hunter drink) or throw them on the ground for teammates to pick up (kinda shitty, unless I've missed something and you can throw them straight TO teammates). It's clearly meant as a support role regardless, but due to the free op items and iirc 3 arts it might replace striker on some weapons.

>>168378539
Fuck you. I expected Dolphin Porn, and all I got was a demo for a Monster Hunter game!

>>168379506
Yes where is a primer for people who can't stand the YouTube "personalities"?

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>Brave Switch Axe
boys, it's been 8 years and they finally figured out what Switch Axe needed. It is no longer Reload Sword
at least in this style

Just beat a Barioth for the first time.
I did pretty bad, but picked up the pace near the end of the fight.

It's one of those good moments where you can feel yourself improving.

I can't wait for MH5, tired of all this anime bullshit

>>168379817
So by sheathing you get guard point? Is the timing as small as CB? Or is it as lenient as adept dodging?

>>168379873
>break wings
>Barioth will trip every time he tries to pounce like Narga

So in Gen what's a good set to graduate to from the usual jaggi and Bulldrome mix if I'm using CB?

>>168380307
>Gen
Fuck off

Is Brave LS borked?

Looks like Brave Bow might be the new KO weapon.

>>168380270
It's extremely lenient, guess I didn't explain well. The timing on not getting damage over time is very lenient, about a lance charge, but if you take longer than that you start taking self-damage. You can hold it indefinitely but you'll keep hurting yourself.

>>168380307
same set but HR or do what normal people do and just go from that to a HR set you actually want

>>168380557
Explain.
Brave Bow+StaminaOilSnS+Hammer+CB KO team when?

Oh, I see how the Alchemy barrel thing works. When you use it, there are three choices. To craft one of 2 items, or to spend 1 point of the gauge to be able to craft a different set of two items. Since you can spend up to 4 additional points, that makes it so that there are 10 different items you can make, depending on points spent.
Not that anyone was actually interested.

>>168380701
>Hammer
replace that with HH

>>168380701
The special brave sheath attack seems to shoot out your arc shot, but in a single arrow. Add Exhaust Coating.

>>168380740
I forgot to add, that "shaking" animation is what the hunter does when a point is spent. So the more points an item needs, the more time is spent shaking. It actually doesn't take too long to spend all points.

>>168380771
Did they fix it in XX?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5PveKpf_mc

SaGa series collab with Frontier
http://members.mhf-z.jp/campaign/imperialsaga/pc/?gareferrer=http%3A%2F%2Fcog-members.mhf-z.jp%2F

>>168380563
The longer you hold it? So let's say I have weapon out and I sheathe right before getting hit. By holding it, do you mean keeping my weapon sheathed?

I want to give Miss Cat a big, wet, adult kiss!

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>>168380963
>Alkaiser suit in Frontier

>>168380995
when you hold the sheath button you do some charge stance that drains hp and stamina

Who dual blades here ?

BRAVE GL IS SO GOOD OH MY GOD I CAN'T STOP CUMMING

Could someone please give some feedback on Brave LS?

>>168381345
600% anime

>>168381275
WHat's good about it? I want my weaponfu to be good again.

>>168381345
Out of brave mode, very clunky, and it's a bit slower to reach brave mode than other weapons
Once you're in brave mode, you will shit all over whatever you are hunting, and also maintain brave better than most other weapons
Spirit counter timing is tighter than you'd think

According to some dataminers, we may not see anything come from this demo. A lot of stuff seems to be dummied out from the demo code. WELP it looks like we are waiting till release

Can someone confirm if the prowler in the demo is beast forte or not? I want to know if I can have a viable prowler that isn't lazy mode.

Datamine when..?

What's everyone playing on the demo? I can't stop using cat for some reason. I'm almost done going through all the options. Still have no idea what I'm doing.

>>168381423
Both in and out of brave mode, you get a guard point on your quick reload. Outside of brave mode, your quick reload reloads 1 shell, in brave mode it reloads 4.
Brave attacks are a powered up shell, and the adept counter reload. These build up brave gauge EXTREMELY quickly, and you can easily enter brave mode within 10 seconds of starting a fight.
You can rapid fire powered up shells, and cancel any attack into a guard point reload, giving the weapon a lot more fluidity and safety.
You can now also combo the slam into more thrusts.
In brave mode, wyvernfire is sped up to about the speed of a regular charged shell.

>>168378557
>ywn have some wyvernian cutie give you a footjob with her digitigrade feet

>>168381503

Likely not, apparently Capcom learned and dummied out monster names, aside from the 3 we have.

>>168381691
didn't nips already confirm peco is in game?

>>168381691
Can't we at least know how many monsters are in the game?

>>168381663
>cancel any attack into a guard point reload, giving the weapon a lot more fluidity and safety

This sounds amazing but the fact that you it's gained fluidity again without losing the tankiness is baller.

>>168381423
shelling seems to do alot of damage(although they seem like high rank monsters), the guard point on reload is amazing, wyvernfire comes out fast.

>brave hammer doesn't have the golfswing after the double pound

Brave hammer may be garbage.

>>168381773
How gullible can you be?

>>168381773
Was that true? I couldn't get him to provide a source. My source says that each monster name is stated as " " <- empty text.

>>168381905
It's supposed to focus entirely on charges, so it depends on how well the charging gimmick works out.

can i play online with the demo on an american 3DS?

What's the point of boomerangs?

>>168381823
I'm not sure. I would think so too.

>>168381964
I couldn't get the R hits after the brave charge hit to connect reliably.
So far not a fan. The dash movement is nice though and can really help with positioning.

>>168382045
Cutting tails.

>Brave CB is literally GPs everywhere

>>168381230
>best styles in XX will be Striker and Adept again

>>168381663
>gl has a style where it can combo into counters like lance and thrust continuously
inb4 we find out shells do half damage and thrust mvs have been nerfed a further 20%

I'm gonna try brave lance now

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Holy shit! I got 31 fps!

>>168382268
That sounds like it'll take ages and even HH's poke would be faster.

>>168382456
IS THIS THE FUTURE

Why do you keep taking your name off, everyone can see you're a pass user anyway

>>168381425

So slow to start but seemingly worth it? Neat. Thanks.

>>168382328
Good, that's exactly what it needed. X fucked up with the Charge Blade changes by changing how Guard Points work and not giving Guild all of the new ones.

Brave DB should have been demon mode moveset

>>168382459
You've never done the event or hunted with tfw? Doesn't take long.

>>168381823
Tried that, counted 58, so clearly something is off.

The demo won't install on a non-CFW 3DS, right?

>>168382817
No, unless you've got japanese 3ds.

>>168382758

Yea lol, we are over 120 at this point too lol

>>168382410
Unless I'm missing something it doesn't seem to gain anything in bravemode? Still gets the on-demand bushido counter as the brave attack, no counter. Only good thing about its brave mode seems to be that it has a longish infinite combo (three thrusts and the counter), which doesn't seem worth the tradeoff since it has the triple hit thrust and the long counter attack. Looks like brave lance is a bust unless I'm missing something.

>>168382817
Do you have a jap 3ds?

>>168382730
Is it really useful for tail cutting? I've tried it once in 3U, and it was awful.

I'm scared, guys. It didn't feel like they've changed the HH motion values at all.

>>168382945
Yeah this sucks, it even gets the infinite out of bravemode btw so I really don't know what that adds and both in and out it loses the charge AND the counter. No charge and a triple long sheathe makes the weapon feel like you're glued in place, which REALLY sucks with FUCKING CATS, but it also sucks when you can't fucking evade or counter. Brave lance seems downright fucking worthless.

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Is Gunlance saved?

>>168383295
IT'S BACK BABY

GEORGELANCE IS BACK

>>168382945
X+A for a guard point shield bash is Brave Lance's unique benefit.

>>168383295
Does shelling still trip?

Brave IG is fun

>>168383381
Okay, thanks. That clears a lot up, this isn't as bad. At least it can combo the block and charge.

>>168382456
how

>>168383517
It's mostly the same, which is nice. Brave pheromone shot should be the norm for future games.

>>168383517
Yeah, pretty cool. Side and forward dashes like brave SA, sends the bug out automatically on A attacks.

I can't figure out what LBG does. When you do the brave sheathe, you can hold R and I think X to do a power reload, but you don't need to have the gauge full for that. Rapid fire isn't affected either.

>>168383808
What does it do?

>>168383884
The power reload only makes the gauge fill faster.
You get some dinky little stone shots that fire automatically when you hop.

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>>168382024
>>168382024
>>168382024
>>168382024
plz answer i am new to MH and want to get into it.

>>168383517
>>168383808
You cant use the jump until the gauge is filled, interensting

>>168384005
Fuck off frog

>>168384005
No unless you have CFW.

>>168383549
Actually yeah my opinion has completely changed, this is pretty sweet. That GP feels more aggressive than a counter, idk if it's as good as the counter was but comboing from it into a charge and linking attacks with it feels fast and I don't feel as vulnerable or immobile now.

>has the backswipe and the jump
all is right in the world, it's like a better adept after all

>>168383884
>Rapid fire isn't affected either.
weird, on hbg your crouch fire accelerates until you dump the last few shots all in like a second. Can't wait for hame with it.

>that brave DB dash

>>168384005
The demo is local only for one, you'd need homebrew 3DS regionfree for two.

>>168383907
You shoot out a pheromone bullet, and the bug is automatically sent out. You know how you have the crosshair for the pheromone shot? Feels like you're shooting the bug out into the crosshair instead.

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>cannot claw
How the fuck do I play this game?

>>168384152
By not being retarded.

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>>168384152

Barroth seems a little bugged in this demo.

I had him walking sideways while his model was facing forward. Kind of looked like the Tigrex drift, but with his normal walk animation.
Also, he got ko'd out by nothing after getting out of a pitfall trap. Like a delayed KO after I stopped attacking.
His model snapped into place and then fell over.

>Deviant Diablos and Valfuck are the flagships
>Intro shows a fight with barioth and a small scene with Valfuck attacking airships

>>168384252
He also freezes up before he charges. It's a really good tell from a gameplay perspective but he didn't do it in 3U and it looks super glitchy so I'm pretty sure it's a bug.

>>168384152
>that super old 3ds
yuck

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>>168384330
I'll tell you the one thing that's good for.

>>168384152
>gen
>game

??????

>>168384302
Yeah I saw that too.

I was using brave hammer, so I don't know if all the constant charging/staggering blows fucks up anything with him.

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>>168384330
>falling for the new 3ds meme when most 3ds games worth a damn can be emulated
>falling for the new 3ds meme when the hardware is still grossly outdated
i can deal with slightly lower res textures

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>>168384252
Snap KOs are actually not that uncommon. Another one you can see all the time is KOing Glav after you burst throat - you can fill up the threshold during the disable, but he'll stand all the way back up first before the full KO flop animation. Sounds like the same thing happened to you, he had to 'finish' getting out of the trap before the next animation could snap in.

Extra annoying: zone transitions count in the same way. If you surpass a para threshold, for example, while the monster is limping away, it'll land and then immediately trigger the disable animation.

>>168378456
WHAT OPTION IN GAME LETS ME TURN ON MY FUCKING CPP?

>>168384716
It asks you right at the start.

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Will anything ever top Monster Hunter 3U?

>>168384557
This looked really unfinished though.
He escaped the trap, prepared to do his roar, then snapped into the monster equivalent of a t-pose if that makes sense, then fell over.

The whole thing was so stiff that it looked broken.

>>168384000
Oh, I see now. They do KO, or at least the last shot does.

>>168384769
Monster hunter 5S

The S stands for Switch :^)

>>168384032
Jump was mostly useless apart from romantic dodges and mountspam if you were a baby to start with. Brave IG seems really cool.

Daemon dashes that either have e+3 or I've suddenly gotten a lot better at dodging without e+, full moveset, kinsect attacks with you in the air (which makes aerial attacks worth a shit for aesthetics if nothing else, I love those little guys), rifle aspect feels like a rifle, TWO brave attacks one of which is the backflip which is low commitment and moves you out of harms way. Feels like IG might be OP again, but then again all the brave styles seem really good so I don't know.

>>168384769
capcom not porting expansions and selling them for full price.
capcom actually making the game look nice on the newer hardware instead of just copypasting 3 without any visual improvemens besides upscaling
capcom porting 4U to the switch and fixing said grievances

>>168384769
4, 4U, maybe XX, if we are talking about sales then FU, P3rd, 4, 4U, X, maybe XX

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>>168385017
>4U
>better than 3U

>>168384471
I did him with brave LS and bow, and both times he was glitchy as fuck. LS spent 2/3 of the time staggering him though, so he didn't get too many opportunities to be really fucky.

>>168385116
3U was a joke
>brach shit was overpowered as hell
>capcom didn't take advantage of the wii u hardware and the game didn't look graphically superior to the wii version
>have to buy a wii u to play 3DS online (???)
>underwater combat
>weapon made from basic kelbi shit was a top tier endgame weapon
MH4U >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3U

>>168385116
not him but while I prefer 3U's monsters, maps and balance, which you would think would be the most important part, I just enjoy 4U more because it has more content, better fps, better movesets and a lot of QOL features 3U lacked (most important being item sets).

Is there an English option in the demo?

Bros, which of /ourguy/ monsters been datamined? Is Peco confirmed?

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Fucking niggers. They didn't nerf aerial SA at all.

>>168385305
They only way you could possibly think 4U is superior to 3U is if you didn't own a Wii U

>>168385351
No. Not like you need it except maybe if you're playing bowgun or HH.

>>168385352
Read the thread, full roster doesn't seem to be there and they're all dummied out except the three we can fight.

>>168385305
>kelbi bow
>good
This meme will never die, will it?
It was only good in 4-man rape squads.

>>168384907
Do you prefer dodging normally or using brave to bypass attacks? It feels like every time I try to brave through something, I get hit. Like I need to preempt when I intend to brave dodge, instead of doing it on reaction like on a normal dodge. Maybe I should just play it like I would Guild IG and only consider brave dodges on roars and more lethal attacks?

>>168385352
>/ourguy/
Stop that!

>>168385116
3U has a few flaws I fucking hate, also it's end game is pretty weak.
locked charm tables, Flooded Forest underwater, free hunt only goes to high rank

Brave looked OP from the first trailer, and it sounds like it is. At least for most weapons.

Can CB get red shield from blade mode now?

>>168385434
L/H/BG and HH are exactly what I'm wanting to try. Fucking Japs always have to overcomplicate shit.

>>168385570
>brave CB
>red shield

>playing with the shaking barrel
I don't understand what I'm doing but I love it

>>168385352
Quit trying to make it happen. It's not going to happen.

>>168385395
I own it on Wii U. My buddy got the 3DS version and we couldn't play online. The game looked like shit and lacked any sort of polish for being on a next gen system and was just a lazy cashgrab on Capcom's part. Underwater combat is fucking garbage too. Endgame was 50% of lobbies being dominated by retards who kick you out of the lobby for using or not using a kelbi bow. Two endgame elder dragons.

3U is garbage. 4U so much better.

>>168385457
On IG dodging normally felt better. Felt a lot safer before entering bravemode to use brave dodge on the lance, then once I found out about it the GP felt top tier. On LS I used brave dodge a lot, but it was the first weapon I tried, on HBG I used it but I was trying to get the meter up and didn't really realise how brave attacks made it fill up much faster yet, and on bow I used the brave dodge because I had to, it was locked in place way more than bow ever should be. I liked brave bow the least. The others all either felt really good or like they had a lot of potential. I'm a bow and lance main from 3U through Gen (and including MHO, except I used HH instead of bow there) though, so I guess I'm touchier about those.

All this is based on like an hour spent with the demo with bitching/raving about it here and to friends that are into mh in between, though, so take it with a grain of salt. Just first impressions.

>>168385691
>can shake up to 5 times
>each time gives you 2 different options of items
something like that

Why was my precious demon dance replaced with a sprint that drains my stamina faster than waterblight? The guard point that also sharpens at the start of it is nice but I end up halfway across the map with no stamina when I try using it

>>168385646

I mean for guild/ striker/ aerial.

>>168385816
try some multi button inputs, pretty sure you can demon dance

Has dasding said anything about working on a translation for the demo?

>>168385816
You can sorta demon dance with Y then X+A when the blue gauge isn't full.

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Why is this a Switchaxe? It should have been a HH.

>>168386065
Yeah, he was talking to /ourgaijin/ and they are going to collaborate on that. /ourgaijin/ is also starting a #mhxxforthewest campaign soon.

Source: his discord. Bases gaijin.

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>>168385395
i played 3U on Wii U and played 4U on an old 3DS. even playing with choppy framerates and inferior hardware i would take 4U over 3U any day of the week.

>>168386235
see
>>168385732

The only acceptable entry was /ourgaijin/ for the sloppy wordplay, but damn anon, it's just annoying at this point if I'm the third one to chime in

>>168386235
Please don't shitpost or reply to me anymore. Thank you.

>>168385450
>kelbi bow
>amazing all-around weapon
>makes any boss easy for a team of incompetent retards
Yes, most monsters had a specific element that they were weaker to than the kelbi bow but stunlocking an enemy with bombs was retarded and make the already weak endgame even more pathetic. Any shit player could use the kelbi bow and succeed. And it wasn't exclusive to 4 mans. It worked good in any scenario, 1 or 4 man.

>bowgun aiming finally matches the analog stick instead of the D-pad
cool, glad we finally graduated to year 2005. Now when can I have a touchscreen crosshair?

Fun fact
GL's wyvernfire cooldown period was reduced from 2 minutes to 1 minute

>>168385691
I think I'm gonna try some alchemy next. Brave mode seems really powerful on most weapons, I hope it doesn't trivialise the game. The guy bitching about how it takes forever to get up and then wears off really fast couldn't have been more wrong, most of the weapons can get bravemode up in ~10-15 seconds and then easily keep it up with brave attacks for about 2:00, like IG triple buff. Bow felt bad but was capable of keeping brave up indefinitely because the brave attack restored gauge much faster than it depleted.

>>168386207
It's a funny pun, sometimes people call guitars axes.

>>168381663
Wait, by rapid fire do you just mean a->a->a? Also, what do you mean by powered up shell? As in being in brave mode makes all your shells more powerful? Since it seems brave style replaces the ability to charge shells with the quick reload.

This style seems like a lot of fun, like adept for shitters like me, but I'm a bit confused still

I hope striker is buffed so I can use it too though, blast dashing is too good to pass up

>>168385570
Still has yellow shield.

>>168385857
Striker never had it.

>>168386559
Is that for all styles or just Brave?

>>168386613
the rapid fired shells have a blue tint to them like the one you shoot during brave guard. So I assume they're more powerful than normal shells.

>>168386714
All styles

>>168386654

Right, striker loses shield thrust. I forgot.

Also fuck. Looks like it's brave or bust for me if I wanna use it.

>tfw GL will fall off hard in G rank as usual even with how amazing brave GL is

Guild Horn recital animations were sped up slightly. The backwards recital is noticably faster

>>168386846
I fear this as well.

>>168386846
I'm calling it now. Every MV. Nerfed by 50%.

>>168386846
>tfw I'll use it anyway

>>168386373

Fuck off faggot, this isn't highschool or your discord.

Cringe

>>168386874
Positive it's not just the self-buff recital (which was already faster) or the specific style you're in?

>>168386740
I don't see any blue tint outside of brave mode.

will i be able to play XX on a modded USA 3DS online when it comes out

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>get excited about demo announcement
>looking forward to today, actively planned against Valentine's so I'd have time to demo repeatedly and autistically
>lazy hunting while watching thread like a hawk
>download within minutes of becoming available on JP eshop
>L o c a l o n l y
>try the new styles on my main a couple times
>put it down
>no desire to pick it back up

What the hell, Ryozo? Barroth and Barioth were great, for sure, I had fun or whatever. Obviously we want to be able to go online, what's the big idea?

>try to aim with lbg
>camera zooms in and out

WTF DID THEY DO?!?! HOW DO I CHANGE IT BACK?? THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE CAPCOM!!

>>168386846
Pray they don't forget about shelling levels

>>168386559
is that with or without artillery

>>168386846
>turns out shell damage now scales with monster rank

So are we gonna make a TA chart for the demo? I'm getting a new record every hunt. I think I'd be top of the board easy peasy.

>>168387057
Ryozo left for Stories. Only Shintaro now.

>>168387240
>GL being buffed

>play hammer
>everyone knocks me away from the head

>>168387035
yes

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>>168386981
>anon is trying and has been trying for weeks to force an actually cringey meme
>multiple people have called it annoying
>but fuck me, right

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>>168387360
J-just you wait, GL will tops the TA ladder in XX!

Brave CB is interesting.
The sword mode is really fucking shitty (cannot transform normally, no guard point from normal roundslash)
Axe mode with Brave mode has a very agile step dodge, kinda like the dodge in DB Demon mode.

>hammer is now cucked by not only CB, LBG, and Prowler but Bow as well
J U S T

>>168387558

>I stop doing something I want to because other people find it annoying

Cringe, beta whiteboi detected. I bet you pay niggers to fuck your mother and sister.

>>168387673
>prowler

What does brave style do for lbg? I'm not seeing anything different.

>>168387795
Hardly anything, apparently.

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>>168387749
>writing a post that speaks for itself

>>168387558
KARINGGEEH

>>168387762
Pierce + Big boomerangs I'm guessing. I do admit though that it seems to take about the same amount of time that a hammer could take, even with slugger.

>>168387057
Wait for the western demo if you want online.

>>168387960
It takes more time. A lot more time.

>>168386235
Who's datamining the demo?

Is alchemy just a better striker style?? Feels like alchemy is what striker was meant to be and brave is what adept was meant to be.

I don't know what the items I'm making are so I accidentally made a keg you carry around with presumably an area of effect that heals really fast when I was at like 95%

>>168388168
Charlotte and Aria.

>>168388168
Kockgath, because he's soooooooooooo good at decryption.

There's nothing to datamine, Capcom learned their lesson.

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>demo is out
>I'm at work
>won't be able to play it with everyone for another 7 hours
>just learned it's local only
I don't know how I should feel about it.

>>168388281
They lose different moves. There may also be motion value changes we're not aware of yet.

>>168388321
"pls could someone who knows how to code help me translate" for what, a year now? That guy?

What's that new HH move it does when you press R during a bushido evade?

>>168388321
Has anything actually been datamined from the previous demos?

>>168388441
You can play a song during evasion or something like that.

>>168388441
It kinda does a long rolling evade into a recital.

>>168388442
Yeah, the MHX demo had fucking everything. The entire monster list, skills, loads of shit.

>>168388402
It was a joke. Fucker's incompetent and will probably talk his ass off about how datamining is ruining the community.

>>168388442
Everything.

>>168388325
be happy that by the time you get home you'll have a menu translation

I have NO idea what any of this shit does but goddamn if I don't love it

Brave style best style, you heard it here first

>>168388576
But weren't all of those announced long before the demo anyway? I don't remember MHX having any surprise monsters like Gog.

>>168388608
Certainly is kino, famalam

>>168388589
>menu translation
I think I'll manage without that. I just started learning nihongo, but something as trivial as menu items can't be that hard to understand, can it?

>>168388667
Nakarkos comes to mind, I think there were more.

>>168388753
I don't mean that, I mean enjoy trying to figure out what the fuck button does what with the new styles, or what X item from the pot does

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Hello, everyone. I would like to borrow a minute of your time to introduce my wife to you.

>>168388885
Eh, I always figured out controls by just pressing buttons in video games. This is no different. Especially since I'm familiar with the original moveset of the weapons, the new things shouldn't be hard to spot.
And I couldn't care less for the renkin style.

Alatreon, Ukanlos, Akanotor, Shagaru, 4 deviants, among others were all revealed from MHX demo data.
Capcom learned and actually dummied all the data, except for the relevant stuff in this demo.

>>168388949
yes, wife (male).

>Barroth with my brother: 15 minutes
>Barroth solo : 5 minutes

Looks like the monsters in online version have their health adjusted.
We played like shit at first but there is no way I can solo this much faster.

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>>168389162

>>168389191
How new are you?

>>168389191
Really? I solo much faster than the monsters die online.

What are the extra options in the start menu? Gen has 3 pages but the demo has 4.

>>168389284
Really? I die much faster online than the monsters solo.

>>168389279
Yeah this is the first time I bother with the demo version.

>>168389294
Second last is lens flare toggle. Last is default

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So do any pre-existing styles actually get any alterations?

>>168389191
I wish I had someone to play MH with locally.
I have a suspicion I'm the only person with a 3DS in my town.

Out of what I've played for Braves
>fantastic, actually put deliberate thought into them
Brave Gunlance, Brave Switch Axe, Brave Charge Blade, Brave Longsword
>really good but I'm still shaky on them
Brave DB, Brave IG, Brave HH, Brave Bow
>Don't like it but someone else might
Brave Hammer, Brave GS, Brave LBG
>absolutely retarded
Brave HBG(took adept and made it even more stupid), Brave SnS, Brave Lance

Lance motion value changes
Triple hit stab: 15*3 -> 16*3
Striker charge finisher: 70->67
Brave shield bash: 20

>>168389475
Brave HH seems really cool but maybe I just didn't play it well or something, it felt really clunky.

>>168389475
What's wrong with Brave Hammer? I thought it could use some extra defensive moves, because it has to stay unsheathed for the most time, unlike GS. And Adept counters don't have exactly the best animations.

>>168389528
Adept swipe: 41+36 (yes they nerfed adept Lance)
Brave swipe: 30+20

Does Brave LS no longer have access to the spirit gauge damage multiplier?

>>168389294
One is replacing your Gen extra data. Don't touch that one.

>>168389556
Brave HH is weird but I like it not because of the Brave recitals but because it has full range of motion with the backstrike since you need to brave charge it
>>168389584
I don't like that it completely removes golfswing. golfswing should always be the strongest hammer attack

>>168389402
Thanks Anon. Now what happened to the charge with brave GS? This is awkward to use.

>>168389584
Brave Hammer's stance moves are garbage and your damage is entirely reliant on charging. I like how it's more mobile, but getting rid of the golfswing is stupid.

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>beat mode palico
>max damage multiplier
IT'S SO GOOD, you might as well turn into a miniature narga

>>168389667
>>168389708
Oh fuck, Capcom don't learn on their mistakes do they? First Striker now this.

>>168389475

What does Brave SnS even get? All I was able to do was that backflip slash. You don't even seem to get roundslash back in brave mode.

>>168389886
That seems to be it. I'm still trying to figure out what HH gets.

>>168389840
To be fair, the best way to use the hammer since Tri has been to just roll next to the monster's leg and execute a full combo instead of actually superpounding their face.

Adept tried to fix this but sine the new lv. 3 charge wasn't that much stronger it didn't work. Personally I'm glad the Hammer gets a different use, it's been the same for a very long time now.

>>168389689
Without meter you must go into the Brave stance, then press and hold X to use the default charge attack.

With meter, your draw attack will default to the strong charge. It seems that it uses the standard strong charge on the draw, but walking around and then starting an attack starts one with blue aura. You can continue to use the Brave stance to dodge attacks for small health and then start a charge attack.

Is there any way to activate the brave counter thing when sheathed?

Alright, so I'm really confused about Brave GL's moveset so I'm gonna try to list it

X-X-X is the standard poke poke slam combo
X+A is the upswing, and acts like it usually does

A shoots a shell, but does NOT quick reload if pressed after shooting a shell. It fires another shell. You can press R+A to reload one shell or four in brave mode, and this can be chained after any move except the slam. This attack has a guard point, which is pretty generous. However, outside brave mode, you can't chain anything after it except another shell. You can still use it to interrupt combos into a guard, like CB.

R raises your shield as normal, and X+R still guard pokes, but there is no running shell and you can't wyvern fire out of a guard. So your only options while guarding are reloading, guard poking, and dropping your guard stance.

The brave stance, which is activated with Y, has three moves that can be performed out of it. B doesn't do anything, nor does R. A fires a quick shell, X does the adept counter (which can chain into a slam), and X+A fires a normal wyvern fire.

In brave mode, there's five main differences. One, the quick reload reloads four shells at once, instead of one. Two, you can follow up a quick reload with a slam, even if you trigger the guard point, and it's much quicker than the adept slam. Three, Wyvern fire is MUCH quicker and can be performed out of a guard. Four, shells after poke attacks that aren't the running attack (the circle pad + x move) are blue. This means you can rapid fire the shells by mashing A. The shells seem to come out faster when pointing straight up with the upswing than when pointing forwards, but it might just be perception. Also, the shell after the Y+A is also blue. Five, you can keep poking after slams, making mashing X into an infinite combo. Also, slammed shells are blue, but you can't rapid fire after them for obvious reasons.

I think I got everything. Let me know if there's something I missed.

>>168390013
Given it's a function of sheathing your weapon, no.

>>168389191
Yeah, MHX and MH4G demos were like that too.

>>168389924

That's terrible. I just checked, and striker still only loses the charge attack. Still no reason not to pick it that I can see.

>>168389989
Superpound is really only good solo and only on certain monsters. I prefer uppercut spamming until KO or a trip.
I didn't like that Adept coutners were all just flashy superpound variations. Aerial Hammer was surprisingly good on land, because it replaced superpound with a stronger uppercut.
I'll definitely give Brave Hammer a try. I hope it's not as bad as people are saying.

>>168389708
The x brave attack is golfswing though. Not sure of the KO or MV but it killed kut ku fairly quick relative to the others I've tried and KOed it a few times mostly just spamming that or comboing it at the end of two x's like a classic golfswing.

>gaijinhunter got in the intro
truly /ourguy/

Alchemy SnS seems pretty cool but I don't see much purpose in any of the combines besides the Alchemy Whetstone and Earplugs. Having Access to 3 HA but sacrifice slightly faster charge speed for access to SPIV seems like a viable trade-off.

The Alchemy SnS moveset has no real downsides as well

So really, in both movesets and HAs what's functionally different between Striker and Alchemy?

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Tell me about Brave CB. How does it compare to Adept?

>>168390364
Striker charges HA faster. Alchemy gets the barrel and access to higher tiers of SP is what I understand from the video they put out

>brave GL can't full reload
wut

One last demo question /mhg/.

How do I hunt alone? The cats are messing me up.

Has it been confirmed that there will be no actual endgame, other than G-rank quests and the new deviant monsters?

>>168390608
Open a local wireless room and start solo.

>>168390608
You can't.

So by my understanding it would take almost two months possibly for this to arrive if I ordered it?
https://www.amazon.com/Monster-Hunter-Generations-Nintendo-3DS-Standard/dp/B01CJI62WA?th=1

>>168390651
>other than G-rank quests and the new deviant monsters
As opposed to what?

>>168390790
Guild Quests

>>168390572
Get to brave mode and you reload 4 shells at once

>>168390651
No because you still have 2+ famitsu's and another trailer left. There are things they just dont talk about too that people find out in the game.

>>168390651
How would it be confirmed? One thing's for sure though, Capcom isn't putting the full effort into X or XX.

>>168390813
So, you're a 4Ubabby.
Only one game in the series had those. Do you want to say all other games had no "actual" endgame?
Sure, guild quests provided a lot of extra lifetime to the game with its RNG rewards, but you cannot expect every future game do that exact same thing again.

>>168390995
To this day I've never fought a single +110 GQ because fuck grinding up the level. Are they different in any meaningful way?

>>168391109
Yes. At 136+ monsters that can start to go Apex instead of Frenzy, Gore evolves into Chaotic Gore, and most importantly they start dropping Beshackled Relics.

>>168390320
What intro, bro?

>>168391262
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV8dqB6xVR0
The HBG hunter is a gaijin, as a shoutout to Gaijinhunter.
/ourguy/ did it!

>>168384152
Put the virtual dpad on the touchscreen opposite the buttons on the right side.

>>168390357
>The Alchemy SnS moveset has no real downsides as well
No second a, no backhop. So no poise except off an initial x+a, no fine positioning, significantly less damage per combo. Probably lacks striker's 10% attack buff too. Fucking trash.

Alchemy LS doesn't have that slick fade slash into spirit combo but the fade slash combos into the poke, so it's not that bad. Least offencive alchemy I've tried.

>>168391403

oWo..... How is this possible?!.....

Truly based, bro

>>168391403
That's William-dono.

>>168391496
>poise

Cringe

All the monsters in the demo are small crowns or did Capcom make them smaller than gens to fix the fov problem?

>>168391403
The hammer girl in the intro is the same hammer girl in Gen's intro, she truly has grown

>>168391715
I'm sorry the english language offends you. Maybe you should stay on a board that speaks your native language instead.

>>168391742
Pretty sure they're all the same hunters.

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>>168391403
M-Masaka! Nanda kore wa?!

>>168389475
>Brave DB
>really good
i'm pretty sure loss of demon mode will make it shit tier, unless brave mode boost mv's by a lot.

>>168390904
In Brave mode, you also get the Adept reload slash from stance.

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>>168391403
That intense fucking face. I'm going to play through all of XX making this face.

>>168391780
Notice how they all got Fated Four armor.

>>168391814
better

>>168392023
Who's the poor sonofabitch who got stuck with Gammoth's trash?

>>168392032
Elaborate.

>>168392053
The cat.

From playing the demo I've found I really like adept switch axe. This much more fun than the striker meme setup.

>>168392053
cat

>>168391403
This is why you wear a fucking helmet Tamafaggot
I can't get my mind off the frustrated/shit-eating grin face the girl made when she smashed Barioth with the hammer

>>168391742
>>168391780
Oh shit, you're right

Is it just me, or does the new kutku do a ridiculous number of tail spins?

>>168392169
Do you think hunting giant monsters is a huge aphrodisiac to these people?

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>>168392129
>>168392168
>Felcote's coat is made from Hyper Gammoth parts

Wasted opportunity

>>168392223
It always has.

>Barioth is a bitchnigga and gets rekt in the intro

I see people saying that brave LS is really good, but I'm not feeling it. What exactly is great about it? Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Maybe I'm using brave style wrong entirely.

I will say that the lack of any fade slash makes keeping a combo up difficult.

>>168392223
Yes, like goddamn. I feel safer attacking him from the front.

Alright lads, tell me about the brave greatsword. Even if it's still inferior to guild I might just use it anyway. Drawing into strong charges when the meter is active just looks fun as hell. Also I just like the blue charge color, same reason I fooled around with adept hammer.

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>>168392236
Yes.

>>168392313

You get side fades back in Brave mode.

>>168392253
Not this many.

>cut tails/broken body parts which can be carved show up as ! on the minimap

>>168392313
You ARE doing it wrong.

>>168392358
Low rank version does.

>>168392336
It's probably what Adept GS should have been.

Also consider that you can fucking CritDraw and Lion's Maw with strong charges, and the latter also provides a means of sheathing without being as hindered by Brave's slower sheathing.

>>168392336
>I fooled around with adept hammer
>tell me about the brave greatsword
If you have the demo, why don't you just, you know, try the Brave GS for yourself?

>>168392313
It has a relatively easy GP, combos well, and does enough damage/ works in stance attacks well enough to make upkeep of Brave really easy.

>>168390067
>X does the adept counter (which can chain into a slam)
How do you do it? If I press X after upswing, I could only do regular poke.

>>168392394
It's a nice touch and about time it was implemented.

>>168392482
Press X while you're in the sheathing animation.

>>168392394
Nice

>>168392476
I don't have the demo, I was saying I fooled around with adept hammer in Gen. I just never used it a lot because it loses the uppercut outside of the adept charge.

>>168392394
I won't believe this until I see it.
Capcom can't be actually improving QoL in their games at this rate. They won't have anything left to "improve" in the future games. Unless of course they'll just revert them, like they did in MHX.

>>168392521
So in order to use brave attack, I shouldn't wait until it does running animation? I thought it'd be like adept when you can delay the attack.

How are the movesets for Alchemy Style? Are they the same as Striker?.

>>168392223
Yeah, it can do any number in a row like garuga now. I had one do 10 tailspins without stopping.

>>168392253
No it hasn't. It used to do two or four.

>>168392779
That's still a ridiculous number,

>>168392764
It has to be in the sheathing animation.

>>168390067
Doesn't seem like you can charge shells in Brave. Unless the blue shells fulfill that niche, I don't see it being too much useful for Wide GLs.

What kind of shell type would this style ultimately benefit the most?

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>>168392758

>>168384519
>not having a fucking camera stick
go away neet

>>168392887
Must be a shoop. Can't fool me.

>>168392223
who cares, at least it only spins in one direction

>>168392480
Where is the gp?

>>168392758
You should look at what Frontier and MHO did for QoL stuff

>>168392998
No, I really, really shouldn't.

>>168392983
At the start of spirit 1.

>Brave mode HBG now allows you to run across the map with your weapon without consuming stamina and at the same time rain pain down on the monster with rapid fire crouchfire
dicc status: muh

>>168392964
We're lucky the garuga never got a move where it angles its head and holds its tail out straight to breathe fire as thrust for a perpetual beyblade tailspin to zoom around wildly poisoning everyone.

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What does Brave SA even get

>brave hammer

DICK STATUS: MUH

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>>168392341
She's got nice teeth.

>>168392223
Now you can rev up that Brave like a top!

>>168393123
You can transform into sword from any move in axe
And double phial burst at one go

>>168393123
Fast double sword and stamina finishers in the brave stance.
Morph anywhere.
It's pretty stylish, too.

>>168392883
Wide shells still pack quite a punch uncharged, 48 + 12 fire while not being subjected to hitzone modifiers. Loading two at once will make the damage output greater than overcharging.

>>168393163
>>168393220
Alright then. What's with the new dodge animations, do they cover more distance and/or do they have more i-frames?

>>168393279
They're faster and can be chained. I don't know about frames, but it is easier to evade through attacks with them, similar to lance hops.

>>168393092
instead garuga dropped his insta charge for a charge up charge

>>168393253
>48 + 12 fire
>immediately think "what an awful attack"
>"it's mostly pure damage, but the fire component might fuck you up big time"
>"if the monster is resistant to fire, shelling would make it smirk"
I've been playing too much SMT recently.

Alchemy is stupid. No one is going to use it.

>>168393546
>I'M SUPPORT
>I'M HEALING
>HON HON HON

>>168393546
except casual nipshitters who think they are contributing anything to a fight

>>168393634
We already have LBGs, Bows and Hunting Horns for that.

>>168393546
I'd treat it as Striker with some niche uses during downtime. The fireball doesn't seem overly useful unless it does a shitload of damage or stagger.

>>168393726
t. GS shitter

>>168393157
Muh dick

>>168393546
Alchemy CB doesn't seem THAT gimped.
Only differences from Striker are "no ED2 -> upswing -> ED2 loop" and "no reload -> ED1".

Would definitely fuck around with it with casual friends.