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Big Manly Dragon People Edition

This general is for discussing new and upcoming MMOs, or MMOs with populations that are too small to sustain their own generals.

MOs with documented MMO aspects are also welcome here, such as games like Diablo, ARK, and Dark and Light.

>Recommendations
http://pastebin.com/4ykaqgvu

>Game databases
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm
http://www.mmobomb.com/games/

>Popular foreign MMOs & MMOs in development
http://pastebin.com/iALuQdht

>Popular upcoming MMOs
Bless: http://bless.aeriagames.com/
Revelation Online: https://ro.my.com/en
Dark and Light: http://www.playdnl.com/
Albion Online: https://albiononline.com/en/home
Ashes of Creation:
http://www.ashesofcreation.com

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I only play female characters because I like to wear pretty dresses.
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Post some of ya grinding music
https://youtu.be/UbQgXeY_zi4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o77BL-hCHxA
I never played the game, but it's still sad.
Imagine the platform you had many good memories on is suddenly counting down to closing the servers forever.
T_T
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>>168172657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI1ETfJ_HSM
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>>168172008
the amani were based as fuck. sad that people only cared about their elins in swimsuits.
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>>168172405
tfw mmos won't have good cloth physics for swooshy dresses for years to come
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>>168172895
Overlord animu wasn't that good but the first ep catches this feeling quite well.
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First for Elsword waifus
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>>168173726
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>>168174192
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>>168172895

Jesus Christ that video. That was wonderfully sad.

I can't believe how old everyone playing that game is, and the way everyone was forcefully logged out in purple sparkles was honestly really sad. Damn.
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RevPasta

>What is Revelation Online?
Fuck off. It's shit.

>Current News
None, it's dead.

>Official Links
F
U
C
K

O
F
F

>FAQ - INFORMATIVE! READ BEFORE POSTING!
http://pastebin.com

>Resources
F
U
C
K

O
F
F

>Can I play now?
Never

>/revog/ Guilds
There is none

>Steam Group
Steam is a meme
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I'm pretty much retarded but is it difficult to get into games like monster hunter online or maplestory 2 and would I even want to?
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i like the little dance that the Goddess Cra does when she wins.
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>>168172008

OFFICIAL ONLINE CARD GAMES TIER LIST:

SSS

- Might & Magic: Duel of Champions

SS

- Krosmaga
- Duelyst
- Elders Scrolls Legends

S

- Hearthstone
- Shadowverse

A

- Card Hunter
- Spellweaver
- Runescape Legends
- Faeria

B

- HEX
- thatvampireone
- thatonewithniceanimationsbuttoosimple

C

- ?

D

- ?

F

- Yu Gi Oh

---------------

Haven't played yet:

- Eternal
- Gwent
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>>168173491
Amani is best race. All other race are shit. Other than baraka.
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>>168180776

>Elder Scrolls Legends in SS Tier

Really? What makes it so good? I thought it was generic hearthstone clone.
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>>168172008
Sorry to all those who tried to joined Yotsuba in Mabinogi Alexina over the past week and haven't gotten accepted.

Kinda rare for us to get people so we tend to not look at the guild manager quite often, but we accepted all of you guys today.
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>>168184235
Wait so you guys never look at the thread and just hang out in the discord?
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>>168173491
Elins in swimsuits saved the game from shutting down.
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>>168184703
Yes
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>>168184987
They saved the game one time. After that they should have stopped making elin only and female only classes. Yes I still mad that brawler is human female only.
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>>168185230
One time is more than your faggot rock people.
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>>168185093
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>>168184987
I would rather have the game shut down while it's still good than to see it turning into a cancerous shitfest as it is now.
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>>168185363
Go back to /terag/ you dirty elin lover.
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>>168185518
Go back to /lgbt/ you cock loving faggot.
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>>168185445
>would rather the game shut down
no you wouldn't. you would just cry about it like city of heroes or AC or whatever the fuck you played back then
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>>168185592
>elin lovers don't love their Elins with cock
Maybe you should go bak to /terag/ with the other immoral elin lovers.
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>>168185392
To be fair, a large majority are originally from our own thread, /mabigen/, from several years back. When that died off due to lack of interest, we just stuck together as our own little circlejerk but had the guild open still.

/mmog/ happened maybe a few months ago, I stated that we're the /vg/ guild of the dead game because you guys listed Mabinogi in the pastebin with no guild.

We're a rather large guild open to and willing to help new people, but me and the guild honestly expected no one would join, guess we were wrong.

So, sorry. I'll start lurking for now.
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>>168186070
We'll aslong as one high ranking person is on from time to time it's fine.
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>>168180776
>elder scrolls legends, hearthstone, and runescape legends anywhere near the top
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>>168187209
What's your list then?
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>>168185230
>not liking THICC fhum brawlers
what a gay fagit
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>>168187937
I don't play Tera to fap. I played it to play as big strong guys. Also I'm a tiny asian girl.
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>>168188248
I am also a tiny asian girl
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>>168188416
Hello other tiny asian girl.
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>>168188248
>implying you're not fapping to BIG GUYS 4U
stop lying on the internet
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>>168187209

S:
-Duelyst
-Card Hunter

A:
-Krosmaga
-Magic Duels

B:
-Shadowverse
-Faeria

C:
-Spellweaver
-Infinity wars
-Elder Scrolls Legends

D:
-Runescape Legends
-Hearthstone
-Hex

F:
-Gwent
-Every card game on mobile except ygo so far
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>>168188616
Not when I'm playing Tera.
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>>168188634
>>168187760
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>>168188248
L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
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>>168189017
That list is bad and you should feel bad for posting it.
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>>168187209
>>168188634
>waaah if it's popular it's not good waaaaah i'm a filthy contrarian
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How is AIKA online now? Is it still alive?
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>>168189715
It's shit now. No one does PvP anymore and the people that do them all have cash shop gear.
Hell dungeons can be solo'd by everyone now.

And while it's still alive it's still losing players.
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Wish Revelation wasn't gonna be ultra pay to win. The game looked actually interesting.
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>>168189979
You mean
>wish every asian MMO wasn't p2w
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>>168189979
Stop baiting. I don't care what you say I'm still play it.
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Which is better?

>Oldschool MMO ability bars with long cooldowns and many abilities
>Newschool MMO ability bars with short cooldowns but limited ability selection at one time
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>>168190109
I'll probably still play it too.

I'll just go into it expecting to not stay with it for longer than a couple of weeks, due to it being so pay to win.

Enjoy it for a casual while then drop it, basically.
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>>168189972
>No one does PvP anymore
It's not the point of that game is PVP and RvR?
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>>168191296
The game was advertised as a PVP game. Nation vs nation, guild vs guild. Even boasting 1000 players against each other.
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>>168191076
Newschool, having 100 fucking abilities and 10 bars that take up half your screen with 90% of them being unused in most situation was retarded design
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>>168191076
I only play old niche shit so I don't know what newer mmo's are doing. What are some example screenshots?
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>>168191076
in between, having 5 abilities is too little and over 15 is too much
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>>168192560

Don't have a screenshot, but a lot of MMOs are doing decks where you have 5-6 spqm bilities and a more powerful ability or two. You swap these out to create playstyle and builds
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Are there ANY good "traditional" mmo's that aren't dead as fuck? I want something I can really sink my teeth into that isn't pure casual garbage.

I might follow that Pantheon game despite fucking Brad just because I'm so desperate.
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>>168195535
what do you mean by traditional
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>>168195734
Longer leveling process, more about journey to max level rather than "get max level and grind raids/pvp," more social in nature, slower paced, more punishing of mistakes, etc.

Think MMOs before WoW destroyed the industry.
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>>168176423
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjfhW16Yxds
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Tell me why I shouldn't download Elsword and play RIGHT NOW
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>>168196995
meme waifu game
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>>168196995
Ain.
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>>168190109
>he will waste his time with ANOTHER shitty themepark p2w asian shitfest

kek
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>>168195874
>get max level and grind raids/pvp

But this is how you advance at the late stage of the game. If you don't put anything at the max level it is pointless to level up.
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Why not have an MMO where all the mobs outside of the towns are like raid/instance bosses that require a whole group to combat? Make the entire game like a raid, requiring teamwork.
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>>168195874
>Longer leveling process, more about journey to max level rather than "get max level and grind raids/pvp," more social in nature, slower paced, more punishing of mistakes, etc.

Except people nowaday don't have time or patient for that.
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>>168199163
But then I'd have to play with other people and I wouldn't feel like an ELITE SUPER WARRIOR WHO NEED NO PARTY!!!

I DESERVE to be able to solo the entirety of all content in an MMO!
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>>168199163
>be late in joining the game
>everybody else is lvl 60+
>can't progress at all
gee I wonder why
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My waifu > You're waifu
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>chinks finally did it the madmen
http://www.pcgamer.com/chinese-law-will-force-game-makers-to-reveal-loot-box-drop-rates/
Gacha era is coming to an end my dudes
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>>168201909
Cool. Too bad all the good MMOs are made in Korea.
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>>168202179
>good MMOs
>gookland
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>>168201909
old news, and gookland already does this
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>>168201909
This is so old.
And if you ever had any doubt that the featured item(s) has a much lower drop rate, you'd be an idiot.
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>>168202273
>maplestroy
>dfo
>mabinogi
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>>168199806
Well with a few thousand players you'd hope that there would be some action.

The most populated places in most MMOs are the starting zones and endgame. Obviously you could do something fun like allowing higher level players to mentor lower level players, dropping thenselves to the other players level+1, or the other way around going up to mentor level-1 so people can play together easier.
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>>168202179
korea already has this law
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>>168204713
Only for mobage.
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>>168204270
>bothering and begging other people to help you
I'd rather not be spoonfed XP by other people out of pity. I mean higher level players would actually want to do something they enjoy, unless helping lowbies is actually rewarding to them somehow
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>>168204743
I think maplestory has it
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god damn. just started krosmaga, these guys have better cards than me.
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>>168207061
Then use real money. It's hard starting out as a free player in that game.
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>>168207472
no. i'm a free bird.
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>>168205258

You imply people would HAVE to do this, or there would be nobody out there of even similar level who would be willing.
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Anything worth playing yet?
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>>168188634
Infinity Wars could have been good but fucking hell it's impossible to get into the game. Getting wrecked by a top-tiered deck on your first day isn't fun.
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>>168172405
I only play female characters because I hope I'll reincarnate into a slut and drown in dicks in some alternate reality once I die.
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>>168207490
Then do unranked until you get enough cards
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>>168211201
That's even worse.
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>>168211260
Because everyone does dailies? Well, you can iop then. Its starter deck is okay
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>>168211413
>everyone does dailies
Exactly. You have a higher chance of running into someone with 5 level 3 infinites in unranked.
Just stick to ranked, at least it has a chance to match you with someone in a similar rank.
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Random ancient screenshot from last day of Priston Tale open beta. I can't even remember the server name i played at, was playing Knight named Arislan in clan called RogueAvenger but i quit in like 2004 was it when beta ended because i was 16 and didn't have access to credit card.

Damn i can't even imagine how i managed to be so hooked to it when it had 0 content outside of grinding mobs for months for a level, didn't even have pvp or anything else untill post launch
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>>168197940
>it's a waste of time if I enjoy myself
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lol dumb phoneposter
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>>168212304
>>168212403
You can't hide your shame.
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>>168212489
>>168212492
It's early and I mistyped cuz sleepy still. I'm be on my comp soon playing mabinogi.
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Why is this guy still gay for Elsword when his sister fucking stole the show from him in Lanox?
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When does the Soluna Blade rabble start?
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>when someone pms you to buy the weapon you're using
Fuck off. You can clearly see I'm using it.
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>>168213136
That's happen to me on LaTale one time. I got this super rare wolf spear that's a low percent chance to drop and a guy traded me a outfit for it.
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>when you finally get a good spot to set up shop but hackers crash your game 5 minutes later
This is why I want auction house to be mandatory in games.
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>>168212732
Fujos want to see boys together, waifu-fags want their waifus to stay pure.
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>>168212790
Playing on that server, can tell the guy is nobody, no shops, no dungeon runs, no raids, no ads to sell or buy anything ever. Screen could be photo-shopped. Dude could be a gm-related prank to bring some drama life. Dude can't be an independent legit cheater because gms defend him. Dude can't be the crafter either because the thing is impossible without mass buying and all phantasm runners fucking know each other.
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>>168213136
bonus point if the guy keep pm-ing you 4-5 times after when you clearly told him to fuck off
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So is Wildstar really all bad?

I was instantly turned off by the reddit-tier "humor" in the first few trailers but I heard the game actually had a lot of good content and customization options later on in development. How dead is it?
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>>168215136
I hated the UI. Played for like an hour or two and gave up on it.
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>>168201909

No its not. Mobages since almost forever, stated the 3% rate and still we throw money at the screen.

> Casino with no nameplate puts a wooden sign in the front door. That's all..
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>>168191076

Post-newschool.

>Fully immersive VR without ability bars. You have the full range of your abilities available at all times, you need only activate them with the appropriate movements/intent.

Between your options though, oldschool. More of your shit's available. MMORPGs aren't fucking card games, why should I try to build a deck of only five or so moves to play with after putting in all that work to rank up my skills or learn new abilities? I'm looking at you, ESO.
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GM pm me plsss, tnx
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>>168215136
trailers are cringe for some reason, while game itself had bit better humour - it's like if they were done by different people
sadly its ded, no amount of new content can save it from that hype trainwreck, there is no salvation from this point and since its NCJEW, The Black Hole Of IPs, there won't be any rework, any sequel, any restart - they will eventually pull the plug and hoard it's ashes
>>168215180
yeah UI was shit, but luckily we had the ability to change that with addons
I personally used forgeUI
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>>168215136
Wildstar wasn't terrible per say, but there were definitely quite a few design flaws.

I'd say the thing that turned me off the most was how much of the combat revolved around dodging the red box.
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>>168221041
It looked like Ratchet and clank.
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>>168221041
>yfw most of their players couldn't handle even dodging the box so they had to ease up raid requirements but it was already too late
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This is edgy Elesis, her heart is filled with grief and rage.
Say something to soothe her scarred heart.
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>>168223282
You suck. I like Ronan more.
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>>168223282
She's KoG's favorite, so she'll be in whatever game succeeds Elsword
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>>168223282
And she is the winner of a NSFW patreon art!
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For the anon that posted this http://mud.co.uk/richard/The%20Decline%20of%20MMOs.pdf on the other thread ( Don't remember right now which) THANKS.

I've been trying to discuss for ages now with other ppl exactly what the .pdf states and soon or later I ended hitting a brick wall(They deny my arguments blindly) with their no-Knowledge about the topic.

So finaly I've smth structured and well written that I can link to them and hopefully translate.
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I wish there was an accurate way I could see the playerbase of each game.
All we have are steamcharts which only represent a small portion anyway.

In terms of most populated what would you say are the top 5. pls respond
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>>168228207
Some mmo's actually have an ingame option that lets you see the player base and sometimes even a clan/guild list.

>In terms of most populated what would you say are the top 5. pls respond
You can already guess WoW is number 1 still. Final Fantsy 14 would rank somewhere on the list, probably 2nd. Google is telling me Elder Scrolls, Guild Wars 2, and Blade & Soul was the most played mmo of 2016 along with the first 2 mmo's I mentioned.
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>>168229309
I don't think Elder Scrolls is over GW2. And I'd think BDO has more than B&S
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>>168229632
This is where I found the list, don't know how accurate those numbers are.

http://igcritic.com/most-played-mmorpg-games-of-2016/2/
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>>168228207
wow, ff14, gw2, eso, tera or bdo
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>>168231824
Why are GW2 and ESO popular, anyway?

Is it literally just name recognition?
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>>168233552
Yup.
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Hello

I know all of you hate mabinogi, but theres few of you that like it so here

we have a mabinogi private server launching right now up to g13. Yeah, I know, G13, the start of the cancer of Mabinogi.
But hey, we're trying to make things a bit better.

Some noticeable things about this server is that
*It's in Japanese, but we're slowly translating things back to English.
*Build on a nostalgic community with experienced technical creators
*We added a Collective system where players would have to kill mobs to grab coins in exchange for pets
*13 Day rebirthing system
* "OW" PVP Channel (It's actually just 1 map, but hey free-for-all)
* We even coded our own shadow mission for the first time in a matter of 3 days. What the fuck?
*Rafting actually works.

and we hope to have more coming soon.
the website is the my name in caps. No really, it actually works as a url

tl;dr fuck off we're full and we dont want your fucking money
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>>168233760
>mabinogi private server
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>>168180776

Do you even Magic the Gathering newfag?
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>>168233760
My dude, where is the server hosted?
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>>168233760
>blanking out your name
For what reason?
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>>168233760
I'd love to try it but it's probably best for me if I wait until it's fully translated since I'm not too familar with mabinogi, only played it for like a few weeks years ago.
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>>168202605
Do gooks have a law for that too? I know nips do after the whole monkey fiasco in gbf. Or sheep. One of them
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>>168188634
>magic duels not F- tier for having no way to hold priority after it used to be in the game

You can't even complete the tutorial. No wonder this dumbass put Hex at a D rank. Duelyst is also boring as shit and basically a GBA game, if you consider it a card game you're a retard
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>>168172008

Mimi (the marvelous~) is cute, CUTEEE !!!!!11

Best new character on Wakfu. So happy I got her plushie on xmas gift codes.
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>>168242874
Poor plushie.
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>>168242874
I have 4 plushies.
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Big piggy and bear.
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>>168220827
>hoard it's ashes
Nah, NCSoft executives snort the ashes of murdered MMOs cut with the tears of western piggu
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wow why did I get memed so hard that BDO was shit this is probably the most incredible mmo I've ever seen, the combat is fucking awesome and the graphics blow almost anything I've ever seen out of the water. The world is fucking amazing and huge

Literally why did I never play this game before it's 10 fucking dollars and I've had more fun with it in a week than I have in years of trying other mmos fuck you anti-BDO shills
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>>168245804
Try to be competitive player.
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>>168245804
And you spent 10 dollars for something you could've tried for free with TERA or B&S ?
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>started playing GW2 a couple of days ago
>already have all character slots filled
>none of them are at level 20
>still can't settle on a class because they all feel exactly the same
>bored out of my mind doing those stupid little heart "quests"

I don't understand

when does the game start
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>>168248765
The only time the game was even remotely fun was on release, and just because it was full of people and world events were always crowded.
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>>168248998
It really is shocking just how bad the game manages to be despite the good presentation, the last time I had fun playing it was in the character creator.

I don't have very high standards where it comes to these games, I played fucking Ragnarok 2 for MONTHS and got multiple characters to max level even though it was a soulless WoW clone with almost nothing in common with the original game.. but I had fun the whole way through.

I guess GW2 is where I draw the line
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>>168245804
why didn't you do the free trial? it's like a week long with no restrictions or something
also: combat is fine, until you hit pvp which is entirely gear and level based. someone's higher level than you? you can't hit them due to accuracy differences
grinding at high levels is tradition asian in terms of sheer amount you have to kill, and the mechanics punish grouping
the worker system is kinda neat and housing is Comfy, but gear upgrading is cancerous as fuck
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>>168248765
>playing the most casul game on the market
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>>168199806
get rid of levels then, vertical progression a shit anyway
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>>168251938
Muh big numbers.
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>>168251938
Not everyone is a hardcore gamer, sometimes you just want to login to a shitty game and do a quick and easy PUG or beat some mindless mob just to unwind.
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>>168250628
that would be blade and soul
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of course when i hit the rock bottom and have nothing left to live for there's no good mmos i can play 24/7 to escape reality
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>>168245804
This was exactly how my friend liked it after his first week though (also paid up right away). He quit a few days ago (played about two weeks, if that).
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>>168253591
>good
>mmo's
Pick one and only one.
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>>168255280

Wakfu
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someone post the vindictus private server pasta, so i can try that shit.
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>>168250578
>gear upgrading
I wish this fucking system would die, nothing worse than other layers or RNG on top of other RNG.
RNG for dropping the weapon, RNG for dropping the upgrade materials, RNG for actually succeeding the upgrade, all littered with cash shop bullshit.
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>>168256464
vindictusworld.com
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Is tab targeting really so bad?
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>>168257587
its down lol fucking gayness
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>>168256464
>>168259341
http://forum.ragezone.com/f115/vindictus-vindictus-souls-1119741/

This was the other one that was posted a few threads back.
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>>168257969
Do you also keyboard turn you fucking scrub ?
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>>168257969
It's useful as a means of compensating for lag by negating the need to aim at someone who probably isn't there, but in terms of gameplay it's strictly inferior to aiming in most cases.
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>>168233760
>Yeah, I know, G13, the start of the cancer of Mabinogi.

Well, after trying both official and yours, I've gotta say that I like the controls of official better. WASD is far superior to this left click to move bullshit. Using number keys instead of function keys as my primary means of attacking is nice too, especially since I can do both.

Why start at G13 instead of rip what you can from the current servers?
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So, what you playing right now?

Currently finishing Blue Mountains in The Secret World.
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>>168263161
game looks like shit
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mabagoo music system overhaul and un-shittening
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I wanna play elsword but everyone says its shit
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>>168263707
bass drum still sounds dirty with crap before and after each sample
(fast) violin still sounds like cries in Hell
Got one tuning kit dropped so far, now fishing for fucking woodboards to rank up the handicraft and see if this new violin sounds any better now.
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>>168263776
It's a good way to spend a few weeks levelling up and doing some PvP on the lower ranks, just don't bother with the p2w.
Watch some video about the characters and see which fight style is more fun for you, don't concern yourself with power levels because the PvE is piss easy even for the gimpiest of them.
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>>168264771
is the update live on the NA versions as well?
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>>168265085
There was an event with giveaways and such, two months ago. The dungeon is pretty neat, ranking Bard is now really easy on a newbie without APs, like it's supposed to be.
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>>168265653
what does that have to do with the image
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>>168266130
wut
the music update is dank composing interface + new mini dungeon with unique music drops + jam band party and freestyle jam minigame with buff + bard bulletin board to get player's music from + more grind for min/maxers for higher crit rates through playing things.
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/mmog/ tell me, are you gay or do you just like the immersion, that is... having a girlfriend to vidya with?

What I find the most hilarious about this, is that if that person sticks around long enough you venture out to other games and then some day you will even talk to each other via mic. And then you feel embaraased to admit that all this time you were in love with another man.


Or... where you gay from the get go?
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>>168267167
We all know the true meaning of word MMORPG is anon.
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>>168267167
Did you ever encounter such people online who were so surprised with you being helpful so they now think they are in love with you/your character? It's not really good for both. Obviously unsocialized adults in their pure form are never fun. Like unsocialized pitbulls or parrots or anything ever. But FUCK if both of them aware of it it could bring some mighty fun co-op. inb4 what does that have to do with the text
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>>168267480
So you're all gay?
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>>168269610
I only want to suck dicks as a woman, I would never dream to do that as a man.
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>>168267167
>falling in love with everyone you come into contact with while playing an MMO
Do people seriously do this shit?
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>>168267167
This is the most annoying shit ever, especially in guilds. Every time there's a female character in guild some of the members will begin sperging out despite being told multiple times they're a guy. It's like an entire "friendship" being built on liking the idea that the other person is a chick despite the fact.
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>>168184235
oh, thanks

i just applied for the sake of having a guild to shitpost in while i get my grandmaster title and then probably quit again
only a couple days left but i'll make good use of them, much appreciated
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>>168263776
i'll be honest with you

its fun at the earlier stages. figuring out your character and their strength/combos, customizing your gear and costumes, playing arena competitively or with a friend

the problem is the endgame when there's nothing to do but grind the same dungeons because you've already obtained everything. pvp also becomes more p2w at the higher ranks as damage creep scales at a ridiculous pace. everything wrong with elsword starts at the end areas of the game. you'll either get bored of the same dungeons, struggle to gear yourself for pvp, or lack the currency to properly outfit yourself with endgame gear, costumes, and accessories

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5n8PMV6ejY
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>>168273843
For me personally, when I see a character I find attractive I let them know that their character is hot by flirting with them (them being immersion and the "character"). But that all depends on if they are in-character. If I see a hot character and they're like "Yo dawg, waz gud." I won't say anything. Also, I can't stand people who spam emotes and/or are useless in party dungeons ala Gay/Trap Healer meme.

I'm not gay. If I was gay I'd be hitting on male characters, and I turn down all males characters that hit on my females characters. However, pretending to be a girl can get you a shit load of stuff for free.
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>>168274763
>all those offlines
Every Elsword guild summarized
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>>168273843
>>168275169
Honestly, that was one of the funniest things when I played earlier MMOs though. Whether they had a dick irl or not, I usually made friends with them and got free shit out of it.
>S(he) gets a gift
>Doesn't actually want it
>Mails/Trades it over to me

It was like pretending to be a girl, except I did none of the work and didn't have to. Bonus points whenever they were girls though; got way more stuff.
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>>168275169
>However, pretending to be a girl can get you a shit load of stuff for free.
There's that, then there's people who get told that the person they're talking to isn't a girl but it doesn't matter anyway because their character is a girl. Literal autism.
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>>168275314
>gifts
Whenever my friends (who were guys irl) played cute female characters all they'd get were whispers by ESLs hitting on them.
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>>168275314
Ha, those days are long gone. Is you calm to be a girl and don't have a skype, discord, or use any communication then it's 99.0% a dude.

>>168275508
>Literal autism.
An example of this^ would be the above and then someone says "what if she doesn't want to talk to you." or "maybe she's shy."

Like, dude, just....

>Play game that requires 1000 PC build
>Most likely built the PC rather than buying it from the store
>Bitch can't afford a mic

Like, the logic above kills 99% of counter arguments. The odds of me running into some antisocial female in any game I slim to none because she would even let people know her gender from the beginning. No one announcers their gender and then say that they're too shy to talk to people over the internet via voice chat software.
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>>168274763
That video reminded me why I dropped Elsword pretty quickly. This killed my interest right away, never really gave the game a chance after seeing it
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"Girls ruin Guilds."

That is incorrect. Virgins ruin Guilds.
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>>168276110
I've actually met a few girls but their gender never comes up, it just gets discovered through a natural conversation through guild or etc.

The catch is that they're all asian, mostly vietnamese or fillipinas. Their culture is completely different when it comes to gaming whereas NA's gaming culture is male dominated. It's pretty normal for chicks to game in Asian countries.
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>That guy who lost his irl or internet GF to some random guy in a MMO
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>>168275958
Helps when they're girls (female). I got a few small things that weren't really game-changing from guys that played girls, but I got things that took a good amount of worry away from my gold stashes from girls.

>>168276110
I was super young when I faked being female myself. Got a bunch of shit and I didn't understand why besides just because I had a female character, so I ended up doing it for a good part of my start in MMOs.

Once microphones came hard installed on laptops and similar, I started getting less and always had to lie about how poor I was, and say that I couldn't afford that shit.
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Was there even enough intrest in this to keep a shitty PS floating?
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I pretended to be a girl on IRC got some pics my friend and i would laugh reading the chatlogs they didn't know i actually wanted to hug those strangers and say everything was gonna be alright

Never saw the appeal of playing a girl, getting hand-outs always cheapened my MMO experience.
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what game has the most enjoyable grinding with the least amount of grouping needed?
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>>168278190
When Closer's was first revealed and then the closed beta footage started popping up on Youtube I wanted to play it so bad. Sucks it never made it to NA.

>>168279039
Any(all) instanced based MMOs. Try DFO.
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What's the best MMO still online right now?

I don't care about age, price, or community as long as it isn't totally dead. I just want to know what's the best game out there.
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>>168278190
The only hype Closers every generated was from Elsword players hoping the game would save them since Closers had the original developers from Elsword working on the game.
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>>168280957
The first one(or 2) should be common sense by now.

http://igcritic.com/most-played-mmorpg-games-of-2016/
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>>168280957
GW2, FFXIV, BDO.

Go for it.
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why don't we all play an mmo together
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>>168282409
No.
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>>168282409
kys
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>>168282409
because we're all highly autistic and would just get mad at each other for enjoying vidya gaems in different ways
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>>168283415
it's not my fault you all play vidya wrong
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>>168283471
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>>168263161

I'm also playing TSW trying to get a tank build that works.

Apparently building pure health, protection, defense, and block isn't enough because you need to deal damage to keep aggro.
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Is there an MMO where shitty low level drop items like crafting materials are useful to high level people?

I ask because I want to be able to sell stuff on the in-game auction house at lower levels.
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>>168284960
I feel dumb, but I did the Third dungeon (Darkness War) as a tank and a guy told me where to buy the Taunt talents. I was trying to tank without the hate generation talent Agiatator.

Bought it, and man did it do a difference.
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>>168285586
Yeah, there's also a couple of abilities that generate increased threat. Agitator is kind of necessary though. Sword/chaos?
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>>168285424
Wakfu. A lot of high level people don't want to farm level 50 dungeons for respec materials.
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>>168285586
>>168285716

I had Agitator and Fuel to the Fire and still couldn't hold aggro when doing Elites.

The worst part is the game has really cool resource builders like Matador which improve your defense each time you hit with it, but the objectively best sword move Blade Furry, with a passive that deals a shit ton of affliction damage, ALSO generates extra hate. What a load of shit. Why have tank/defense skills and items but they aren't good enough to work?
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>>168285424
Some do this but sometimes in the shittiest way possable, like needing 1,000 of said materials needed for high levels to craft and when there's no new players it becomes a real bitch to farm.
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>no Diablo general anymore

wew

So I am getting back into Diablo and I am wondering if it's worth it over say PoE? People say PoE is better but I am not really sure why as I've never really played it. Anyone have any thoughts?
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>>168286489
not an mmo
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>>168286489
They're both good.

PoE always has a new league every few months that usually adds something new to the game. Some are even on the levels of a whole expansion.
It's also pretty easy to make a shitty character.
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>>168286572
Isn't Diablo literally in the op?
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>>168286489
d3 is more arcadey fast fun
poe has more variety with leagues and builds can be very simple or expensive and complicated
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>>168286489
poe has a general, you should ask there
d3 is a much more casual game
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>>168285424
gw2
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>>168285716
Hammer/Chaos

The problem is that I thought that Top Misc was suvivability, so I didnt even check on the left Misc because I thought it was DPS oriented. The moment I equipped it, it changed the whole run.
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>>168286489
titan quest got an anniversary release a few months ago, so I'd heavily suggest picking that up if you're up for some good gam without always online crutches.
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>>168286489
Download PoE and try it, it`s pretty deep and the new act is releasing really soon. A ton of content for a free game.
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>>168178087
Monster Hunter online is shit for newcomers to MH, just play something from the main Monster Hunter series, I would recommend MH4U since it has one the best tutorials in the series.
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>>168290041
I remember it not having classes though. Did that change?
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>>168290041
>new act

New "act" as in something like the mapping expansion. or a while new area like dried lake and the mountains.
Because I really hope it's not the latter.
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>>168290790
Whole new*
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>Decide to try Mabi again
>See that I apparently missed a Utawarerumono event

FUGG
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>>168278190

Wait what, was this cancelled or something?
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>>168290725
It has positions on the skill tree, but not actual classes.

Your class determine what Skills you get from the quests and where you start on the Passive Skill tree. So Marauder start next to melee oriented passives for example. But nothing stop a Marauder to make it`s way to the Witch zone and become a Necromancer.


>>168290790
We dont know what Act 5 will be, I know they will add a new Self Found league where you cant trade with players for players, like me, who only play solo.
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>>168291805
Holy fuck that tree looks like a clusterfuck. I hope it's more simple than it actually looks.
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>>168293308
most nodes are just +5 to str and +2% to hp
the bigger the node the bigger the effect/more unique the effect
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>>168293525
So is it possible to acquire every node given you grind hard enough or is there a limit?
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>>168293308
It mostly is, everything is in clusters. So you know the Sword area is there, the Mace area is there, and ect. The big challenge is to find the roads that lead to what you want without doing too many useless nodes. Since everything is linked to your starting area, this mean that you need to find the best path for your build.

>>168293731
There is a limit, max level is 100, so I think the max is 150 points.

Here the zone of a Witch for example with a couple of points just to show you what it look like. Small nodes give small bonuses like Mana, health, medium give specific higher bonuses like +5% damage from summons and Big one give really big build defining passives like "50% of all elemetal damage is converted to Fire Damage, but you cant deal any damage that is not fire damage"
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>>168293731
Here the website version of the skill tree if you want to explore.

Max nodes is 123 and there is a side skill tree where you take a specialization and get a mini tree with really big talents.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree
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>>168213136
>finally craft a armor you've been grinding mats for like 2 weeks
>some random guy approaches
>hey can you sell it to me?
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>>168294062
>>168294127
One last question. What does the endgame consist of?
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>>168294209
Maps. The name of the company is called Grinding Gear Games, the end game is grinding to get to level 100. You get maps with attributes and maluses, and of different rarity. You have unique maps, rare maps, magic maps and ect.

(rarity system is White = Common, Blue = Magic, Yellow = Rare, Orange = Unique , Green = Quests)

Here a rare map for example.
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I haven't played Mabi in a long time.
Do Dungeons scale to you now?
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PoE isn't an mmo.
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>>168291212
>decide to come back to an old mmo
>event going where if you haven't be online for 30 or more days you get free returning player stuff
>mfw my account and last log in was too old to qualify
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>>168294840
It`s not. But I can still answer his question about his CORPG.
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>>168294840
Neither are half the games in the OP. This general should just be renamed to "games that no longer have generals general" because that's the one thing they all have in common
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>>168295175
What? What game in the OP is not an MMO?
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>>168294812
Pretty sure Generations do, unless I'm just imagining I read that somewhere.
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Hasmat Suit Waifu is cute
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why are mmos so shit
>shit writing
>90% shitty anime art style
>open world is 50% emtpy open areas
>animations have no weight or force
>combat is lmb 1234 repeat
>graphics are subpar
>poor design in every aspect (buildings/enemies/clothes etc)
>CLIPPING
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>>168295830
everything you just said is subjective
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>>168295830
>shit writing
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>>168295940
>>168295830
also forgot the godawful clusterfuck UIs that nobody can ever seem to get right
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>>168295940
only mmo with decent writing.
also the game world looks pretty interesting. i've always wondered how an mmo would fit into a modern setting.
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>>168295494
>MOs with documented MMO aspects are also welcome here, such as games like Diablo, ARK, and Dark and Light.
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>>168296131
Well Diablo is not a MMO, because it's not massively online. There is a limite of 4-6 players by games, and you cant encounter randoms.

Ragnarok Online is a Diablo like game who is a MMO for example.

Ark is a MMO, I think?
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>>168294812
Dungs do not scale, but are harder than elite SMs, and you can bring only 3 other people with you
If you can solo rabbie phantasm as non-elf you're god now
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>>168296074
It's B2P, so if you get it on a sale, it's worth it. You have 3 type of missions, normal Main missions, sneaky missions and investigative missions. On Investigative missions, they dont show you where to go, and they give you puzzles and clues.

So far, there is at least 2 morse code puzzles, and several bible searching I had to decipher.

You have a browser in game to search the web because some clues are on websites.

Like this.
http://www.orochi-group.com/
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It's a god damn MMO why do you give a shit about Story...?
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>>168296671
Why have a story and quests at all then?
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>>168296671
Because it's good?
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>>168296671
You will spend here next 3-5 years, so better to know whats going on
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>>168296701
>>168296717
>>168296768

>they sit watch cutscenes, read all quest dialogue, read NPC dialogue, listen to NPC speech, converse with NPCs, read miscellaneous letters/books/audiologs throughout the world

Haha ok fags.
>y-youre cherrypicking!
No I'm not these are all elements which contribute someway to a game's overarching lore or story
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>>168296841
I do? It's the main collectables in Secret World, pieces of Lore.
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>>168296841
I mean if you want minecraft or its 1000 clones go play that
there better be a fucking reason I'm joining other retards in killing whatever the fuck takes 20 people to kill
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>>168296074

You could honestly refluff everything to fantasy and it would be mostly the same, but it has cool guns as weapon trees. 3 guns, 3 weapons, 3 magic. Make a build from 2 weapons with active and passive skills. One fun thing is you can do is use any passive skill regardless if what weapons you're using.

Also all gear is like little occult trinkets and stuff, you don't see them on you so you can wear whatever clothing outfits you want.

Also there's an in game browser, and your character gets cell phone calls. That's most of the modern stuff.

The community isn't dead too, at least on the Daemon server I use.
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>>168296841
>not talking to cute npc grills
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>>168296969
That in its essence is what MMOs are about. Grouping up with some fags you don't know, or even guild members and killing some big boss.
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>>168296841
>/owg/ coming to shitpost in /mmog/
really make you think
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>>168297045
but why
what did the boss do
what do I gain from it
I don't even play mmos anymore I just saw this thread passing by, they're a serious timesink and I personally hate interacting with people who 99% are "lol XD" kids, and are all inferior to single player rpgs
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>that feel when you are a secret illuminati like company but you still cant follow simple password security procedures
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>>168296841
>>they sit watch cutscenes
Some mmo's don't give you the option to skip these sadly.
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>>168297238
>single player rpgs
In single-player games everything is predictable and can be googled
In mmos random shit can happen everyday, because humans being humans
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>>168291805
>It has positions on the skill tree, but not actual classes.
It has ascendencies now. That's sort of classes
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>>168274763
This video hurts, I really feel fucking bad for new players.
Nowadays if by some miracle you manage to find a party then you WILL get the fucking guy who hops on a mount and clears every field with one key press.
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Secret world tend to love to make me feel stupid.
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>>168299568
For people who want the solution
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>>168297329

>that head scientist whose password to top secret information about cruel human experimentation on young girls is the name of his fucking dog which he keeps 3 pictures of on his desk
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>>168299568
>>168299719

I almost feel bad for looking up the solutions, but not really. There's no inbetween with those missions. It's either follow the nice arrows in the mission right to decoding Morse code and decrypting shit with the Enigma code. Worst part is when you pick up a miscellaneous quest and it ends up forcing you to do stuff like that.
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>>168300374
Morse code was annoying yeah. Twice. One with sound, one with light. At least the light change color depending on Dot and Dash.

But no Morse code translator I found could decode this. You need to be fluent to understand how.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egMGt-zDgQ0
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How's Everquest?
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>>168300519
>One with sound
I'm deaf and this kills me inside.
I hate getting immersed in a quest quest but then suddenly this kind of quest shows up.
At least there's solutions online but it stills ruins the experience.
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>>168300890
Yeah it's pretty limiting. The other one is with light.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU8BvRG9_Lk
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Question about Mabi.
Can I level combat mastery now?
I remember I was always told not to because it made leveling other skills much harder.
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>>168303172
Get combat mastery to rC maybe B but not further. Focus on windmill and critical whenever you can. The point is to get r1 windmill as fast and as early as possible, training it later on stronger mobs can be costly and annoying.

SM with zombies, Their method is good for training. You can use Wire Pull/Crisis from puppeter and Lullaby from songs to make things even easier.
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>>168303342
Yea, that's what people said, but I don't care about windmill.
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>>168303498
It saved my ass few times, even as mage. Also It gives 30str and 50 will. You WILL want it maxed out just for stats.
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>>168303627
Oh well.
I'm just going to keep using my puppets until I uninstall the game in a week because of the shitty economy and low playerbase.
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>>168303498
Windmill is disgusting all the way till r3, you are fatwindmilling like a awkward retard without any range and sometimes enemies tank through it. with r3 you get range up. With r1 you get a huge second range up about the size od small Tara castle room and the loading is fast now. It's simply the best choice for the fast weak daily SMs if done just for the ability points.
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>>168305108
Maybe old windmill was like that, but it's so easy to set up mobs so windmill hits 4+ enemies at once now.
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>>168305280
nah it's not hard to train, just saying low rank WM is hard to use in battle and I could see why it feels off-putting for players. By "sometimes enemies tank through it" I mean they attack you right through fully loaded defensive WM. Try to clear close combat tutorial on your weak character you'll see what I mean, you'll be given rD windmill if I remember that correctly and here's your spoiler: every second try counterattacking defensive rD windmill fails. But I see no such problems with r1 at all.
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who mabipro here
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>>168307025
I stopped playing mabi, but I had fun dressing up.
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>>168308009
Oh, what the fuck. That's not the picture I posted.

I meant this.
Even the image name is the same for some reason.
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>>168308009
>>168308093
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any mmos with infinite progression?
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>>168309892
Archeage technically.

But you'll have to pay to get anywhere with it.
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>>168309082
>rf online
Hit me right in the nostalgia.
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>>168310349
I'm playan right now.
Server with max55 and nice rates. You can easly grind for gear.
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>>168310437
Private server? Man rf online had so many private servers its hard to count.
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>>168310865
"Official" one is shit, everyone hates lv65 cap.
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>>168309892
Mabinogi
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What if there was an MMO where, when you died, you get a small but permanent stat decrease on some pieces of your equipment?

Forces players to sell their high value gear for a lower price to other people to get new more pristine stuff, and increases penalty of dying.
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>>168313345
I don't think overpreparing is that bad but
>quick, we need more antifun mechanic ideas to sell those protection buffs
you know how it usually ends
durability loss and rng upon rng upon gear creation is bad enough
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>>168313345
That sounds kind of silly if you worked you ass off to get some gear and die a few times and it becomes shit.
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Closers is now officially released internationally.

BASED VOID

codeclosers.to/
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>>168315174
AWWW shit son. A new MMO to play.
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Bump for closers coming to everyone.
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HOLY SHIT HYPE
...the fuck is it ?
>>
Is the middle tier revelation founder pack worth it? Thinking of just getting the lowest ones for the early access, are wings really that important?
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>>168317225
Anon why would you pay to beta test ?
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>>168317314
They gave the OBT release date a few hours ago, there will also be an early access of like a week for founder packs. 27th is early access march 6th f2p date
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>>168317405
Still not worth it. Unless you plan to play the game for a bit. But hey it's your money you can do what ya want with it. Also earlier for OBT if you bought a pack is stupid as fuck.
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>>168317583
Tons of these new f2p mmos do it, I don't like it but it's a good business practice.

A week of entertainment does seem to be worth $17 in general, you spend that much going to see a two hour movie.
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Anyone played/remember this thing ?

I really wanted to like it so bad because of accretians and the bellato mech riders but
it was just abominable on most parts, fighting same level opponent was just matter of who chugs through his 500 pots first.

Killing even lower level opponents wasnt easy because of the insanely stupid potion system.
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>>168317680
But there is going to be a wipe at the end. Also if they want to really test the servers they should let as many people as they can day one.
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>>168318225
There's no wipe after OBT, it's basically release (just like all of the other f2p mmos) that stay in beta forever
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>>168315174
I'm kinda interested, it has been a long time since I've played any private server stuff though so it's hard to trust
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>>168317935
>peel a Bmau
>little bel is forced to get out or pay the bill to repair his mecha from 0
>little shit has like max dodge and only 1/10th of hits pass through


>be gay elf tanker
>have so much block i can pretty much afk while 10+ people hits me


>be acc grenade debuffer guy
>deal reasonable damage while fucking everyone with high-level debuff bullets

It was fun
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>>168315174
What are sys reqs? To avoid wasting time with my low end laptop
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>>168320346
It's generic crap, it'd run on your smartphone if it was coded for it.
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>>168320690
That's a big if. Given that most mmos don't know what optimization is.
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>>168319417
It was fun with battle leader and scientist, liked that axe class and the striker also but the leveling vs mobs and how tedious it was to kill a midget or fug elf without a debuffer thanks to the crazy heals.

One private server after official server went rip was going pretty ok with nothing too crazy
in cash shop untill some bellato guild leader paid like 1000$ to outfit few of his mates with
"behind the counter" grade stuff and pretty
much tanked our entire rare that attended that fight.

Pretty hilarious to see hundreds of toasters unable to do crap to just 4-5 bellato.
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>>168295175
>>168294840
Get the fuck out of my thread newbs...
http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Why+we+hate+being+called+an+MMORPG+%7C+Path+of+Exile+Wik&l=1

M A R K E T I N G

M A R K E T I N G
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>>168309082

I wish I'had never lost all my oldfag MMo pics on a format.
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>>168315174
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>>168323589
But I took it today.

Xfire is kill. All my stuff gone forever.
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God I'm bored, is VOID still a laggy shitshow ? I'd love to waste a few day fucking around with a crimson avenger.
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>>168315174
>closers
Why do people think this is a good game at all?
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>>168324992
To the thirsty even a puddle of piss looks like champagne.
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>>168325080
So Elsword players? The game ended up becoming a huge disappointment.
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>>168298763
Yeah that video hits so hard that the guy who created it was permanently banned from the forums and game. The Elsword staff are fucking ridiculous.
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>>168324747
play bdo with me pal.
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Respect your healers, you pieces of shit.
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>>168326137
I value damage dealers more than you pussies, now get working with that wand before I stick it up your ass.
Once upon a time you've used to be the pro-players, but between advanced UIs, mods and utility spells out of your ass it's a wonder you can't just use auto-pilot.
Absolutely pathetic.
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>>168328014
>I value damage dealers more
Wew, go compare your e-penor with the rest of DPShitters.
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>>168324747
CrA was nerfed again. GrM got buffed again. GrM is the only viable Elesis.
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I want your opinion /mmog/.

Is pay2notgrind a form of pay2win?
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>>168329340
yes
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>>168329340
we argued about it last thread. their consensus was yes. Then they said anything that's not strictly cosmetics in a cash shop is basically P2W
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>>168329340
No. And only dummies would think so.
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Closers general when?
/vg/ guild when?
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>>168330091
When you make one.
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>>168329340
yes and if you demonize pay2win term you are like those housewives with their gluten or glutamate.
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>>168329340
Yes, especially if your game has limits such as fatigue systems, entry tickets, and the like.
The only kind of acceptable pay2notgrind are EXP boosts.
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>>168330091
When the game comes out I guess. If you make one now it's just going to be full of lewd posting.
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>>168330091
Do you seriously believe it would deserve a general ? Give it 48 hours and half the people will be already gone.
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>>168330925
How is that a bad thing?

>>168331087
It's an international release. A lot of people were waiting for this.
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>>168331151
>How is that a bad thing?
Kill yourself
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>>168331151
>he thinks lewd posting is a good thing
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give me something, anons
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>>168331439
Post ya IGN and what gender and level you are.
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>>168331570
but my IGN's right there
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>>168331681
What about the other two things.
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>>168331765
good point
done
it's in there now
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>>168331885
Are you not asking for something for making a good dish? I was going to give you some gems or something.
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>>168332018
nah, i was asking for the quote that gets put in the public journal for everyone to see

i don't think anybody ever looks at those so i always fuck around when i get one in there

though if you want 5 star shit i can defs give you some
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>>168332142
Send them to Lebelont.
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>>168332769
oh, i actually have been, since you're the first IGN i saw in a screenshot in these generals

there's been one sitting in your mailbox for like a week
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>>168332897
I did recall a moon cake in my inbox. I just can't put it anywhere until I get my space fixed. I miss my 20 pets on the shota sever.
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>>168333460
ok i confess i actually have the same problem and just mailed that one to get it out of MY inventory

but i'll send something smaller next time, promise
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>>168333690
Tis fine. I can take food for when I killing bears and Ancient title mobs.
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>>168334016
So is Mabi about killing bears a lot?

Seems like killing bears is all anyone talks about with it. That or cooking.
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>>168334397
they're good for easy farming, but bearly more than that
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>>168334397
Bears are love and life.
>>168334551
>bearly
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>>168330091
>we reached a point where people get more excited by the idea of playing a game instead of actually playing it
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>>168335525
because reality doesn't meet expectations 99% of the time
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>>168335525
Kinda like sex.
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>come back to Trove
>there's a new level cap and areas are sorted differently now
>want to know why I'm doing 2 damage in an area 500 below my power rank
>Trove general doesn't exist anymore
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>>168330091
>they actually expect you to buy currency to use the costumes

Instant abandon.
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>>168337440
But sex feels good.
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>>168337936
But real sex is sloppy. That's my point.
You get tired, cant do some positions, she gets boring, you inherently cum quicker, she's faking her moans, she lays there like a starfish
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>>168338535
Sounds like someone has a unhappy sex life.
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what's with these subtitles?
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I WANT TO PLAY A GOOD MMO GODDAMNIT
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>>168340751

Then make one.

Alternatively, you could go around and actually try and play all the different MMOs on the market right now.

Alternatively alternatively, you could wait 15 years for my own MMO to be finished.
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I see a lot of complaints ITT about different kind of MMOs, about how MMOs should be more different then WoW or more of a 'sandbox'.

What does this mean exactly? MMOs kind of have a specific connotation, how exactly would you make into a different genre like that?
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>>168340918
BUT I WANT TO PLAY RIGHT NOW
I WANNA I WANNA I WANNA I WANNA
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>>168290790
The announcement came today. It's 6 new acts. They want you to do a single play through and be at end game, instead of having to replay the same acts over and over. That's great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFAPw_F3jyg
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>>168341035
you summarized /v/ for some reason
it's usually
>your favorite mmo is shit
>but she is dead
>I know
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3KphJa-2DM

This shit is getting released on Steam after 11 years, anyone here ever played it? Shit was a blast.
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>>168309892
any with gear upgrading
have fun
>>
Thoughts on CODE: Closers? English private server out but dunno if it's worth investing time in.
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>>168342570
2animu4me
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I'm looking for an MMO that's rather grindy, has plenty of/mostly (group) PvE content and preferably something that hasn't been out for that long, so I can experience the patches as they come along.

Suggestions?
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>>168341035
>MMOs kind of have a specific connotation,

they have some general threads that connect them, but for the most part the idea of an MMO(rpg) could be as varied as non-MMOs are
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>>168342570
I picked a boy who I thought was a girl.

But really, I'll probably treat it like elsword.
Just something to play for an hour each day.
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>>168343692
Massively Multiplayer Online games are pretty narrow. There is severe limitation on what you can do. For example, doing an adventure MMO would be pretty hard. FPS MMO are also starting to come out, but tracking the accuracy of guns for thousands of players in a map is a huge deal.
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>>168341956

>6 Acts

God, I love Path of Exile. One of the few games I've played that got me invested in its world.
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Does BDO have some kind of trial ? I might give it a try if it runs on this shitty laptop.
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>>168342570
It's a good game, but it's in the hands of whoever is running the server, since there is no official english server just yet it's probably worth playing for now.
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>>168345179
>Elsword
All I can see is NotRaven, NotAisha, ChungWithTits, RenaWithAbs, Ara, LiterallyAdd and WhyAreYouHere.
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>>168345150
Yes, 7 days
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>>168342570
I tried registering but the confirmation email wont send, dropped.
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>>168343565
>so I can experience the patches as they come along
Worse way to experience an mmo in my opinion. As the game gets more and more content, you'll soon realize how shit the game is becoming. Then you'll be stuck here with us complaining about how shit mmo's are. Trust me, you don't want this life. If you've never experienced it for yourself then you'll have nothing to complain about.
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Cook anon, please send more corn tea.
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Let us all thank Google translate for all the good work it did in porting this game.
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>>168346118
you will regret this request
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>>168345502
It plays far better than elsword really, it's to be expected since it's from the original elsword devs, it's literally just elsword but better.
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>>168347301
I regret rebirthing earlier.
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>>168347315
>Elsword devs
Of course it had to be them, I can't rebind my gamepad for shit just like in Elsword because of registry errors or something.
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Hey guys check this vid xfire.com/video/47cdfc/
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>>168350195
No, thanks. My computer has enough dolphin porn as is.
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>>168350195
nice virus.
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>>168350195
I clicked it guys, bye forever
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>>168350195
This video just made my dick 10cm longer, thumbs up !!!
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>>168350243
>>168350308
>>168350372
>>168351009
tfw xfire is kill
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wot
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>Keybindings in PVP remain default and ignore settign
And that's my clue for dropping this piece of shit, lasted a good 2 hours well done.
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>>168346118
vroom vroom here they come
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>Just want to use my spirit weapon in Mabi because sentient weapons are my shit
>needs repair
>only one person selling the potion I need
>75k for one
>have no gold
>have to try to get white herbs myself
>don't even have herbalism or potion making
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>>168353698
post ign
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>>168353805
But I'm on Mari.
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>>168353979
you're fucked
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>>168353205
I'll finally be what all skeletons aspire to be.
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>>168354037
It use to be where all the cool 4chen people were.
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>>168353698
Making money is so easy. Just run the Saga mission and open them up on the weekends.
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>>168353698
- ask the person to trade it for some crap. As an oldfag you probably have tons of old event things in your dressing room or bank.
- run like one or two taill shadow missions for gold
- gather potatoes or eggs, acquire holy water, trade it for the potion or just sell 20-30k stack
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>>168344307
having limitations does not mean every game needs to be the exact same

all I want is some variety
>>
For an invoker crusader, approximately what percentage of single target dps is thorns damage and what percentage is actual punish damage?
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>>168356314
>implying I can get at least 5 pieces to try that out

I swear to god this set is impossible to get unless you did crusader as season journey.

I have 2 fucking full sets just from drops and blood shards for my demon hunter with 30 hours played and only 3 pieces of invoker on my crusader for the same time.
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>>168359196
not an mmo
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>>168359903
Try reading the OP, faggot.
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>>168359998
Try playing MMOs, faggot.
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>>168360161
Don't tell me what to do, faggot.
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>>168360250
Don't tell me what to read, faggot.
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>>168360250
I'm not your faggot, buddy.
>>
Favorite MMO classes?
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>>168363273
Sissy cock slut.
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>>168363273
Big tittied cock slut
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>>168363273
I usually go traditionnal healer or Tank with shield.
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>>168363273

Always archer/ranger/dex class. Ever since I have memory. Sub though, is always warrior or paladin.
>>
Gotten 3 infinites from BRONZE packs now in Krosmaga. All of them dupes. orz
>>
Stuff that used to be end game content getting nerfed to the point where leveling people can solo it is a sad sight
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>>168373296
What about power creep, but the content is untouched?
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>>168363273
Anything that can tank for me.
>>
How to kill the holy trinity?
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>>168379430
which one?
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>>168368542
Arent rangers almost always shit?
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>>168380159

The christian one.
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>>168380159

Tank, Healer, and DPS of course.
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>>168379430
classless game = everyone is dps
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>>168380776
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>>168381391
play a game with damage/control/support instead
>>
>play closers
>its shit
>>
>Play closers
>it's okay
>>
>>168383150
That's the problem. It's so "okay" it's not worth investing time into it.
>>
get to atleast lvl 50, if you still don't like it then, fair enough.
it sucks until you get all your skills with the aerial unlocks.
>>
>play closers
>see a stamina bar
>dropped instantly
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>>168385006
>go to general merchant
>buy stamina potions for 500 credits each

hurr
>>
>play closers
>see Misteltei
>fap vigorously
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>>168363273
Blade
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>>168385371
I miss my Ringmaster.
Shame they nerfed it to shit.

Also Crucio Psykeeper was fun as fuck.
>>
How do you make money on Mabi? It used to be easy to keep myself afloat with daily 4 dragon runs with my guild but they're dead and I'm not really active.
8k total
>>
>MMO with linear level-based progression
>level cap keep increasing because of update and new content.
>what used to be endgame are now leveling content.
>level gap keep getting larger causing the population to stretch.
>less and less people on each level and less and less people to group with.
>leveling zone has less and less people.
>more and more likely to level alone
>let's nerf those ex-endgame content because people are having problem partying so they can now be soloed.
>introduce new class for player to level again.
>due to issue of low amount of player in each level, let's make this new class able to solo everything except endgame.
>progression too slow and not enough player on endgame, let's increase xp rate, stlll not enough? let's give player instant high level char.
How do you solve this vicious cycle?
>>
Goddamn Krosmaga died on me on the middle of a match. Anyone else having issues with it? I can log in on the launcher, but it wont load no matter what. ; _ ;
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>>168386732
Have 8 characters.
Do saga.
Open them on the daily bonus.
Buy the dyes, if you get lucky and get black or white then you can sell them. Even pure red can sell well.

Then with your 8 characters with a full homestead of herbs, pick them and make potions.

After that do the Holy Water part time job. Make sure they're all in a life talent. The one in the church is the fastest, the one that want potatoes or barley(or maybe wheat,I forget).
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>>168386782
introduce fun non combat things to do discover artifacts and lore stuff. Introduce a system so players can regress their character to a lower lvl to try a new class with a nice stat bonus
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Serious question. If I have never played WOW before is it worth it to try it out at this point, even if I'm going solo? Should I just play on Elysium, and if so how long until I ran out of content.
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>>168387702

Just play Wakfu.
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>>168388052
But Wakfu is for furries.
>>
>>168388552

There are what, 15-16 classes now? And only one could be considered "furry". 2 on the future now that we are getting Ouginaks.
>>
>>168386782
Nothing, I think the start of all those things is just a dwindling player base. These dev's design these games expecting a huge number of logins 24/7 and at first they all start out like this but once they take notice of all the people leaving/ not logging in, all that stuff comes into play. For example, if you have a game that relies heavily on group raiding, leveling, pvp or any other group activity and the player base has died making it hard to find people to do all those thing, me as a player would have no reason to keep playing that game anymore and I think this is what starts a chain affect of pushing 95% single player content in mmo's.

I'm mostly speaking about the non popular mmo's though or the ones that pull in high numbers all the time.
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>>168388052
Is wakfu not dead? I remember having an absolute blast during the beta but then it went live and was pretty shitty. I got on a few years ago and it was almost completely dead and full of foreigners. I'd give anything for it to be good. Greatest online experience I ever had during that beta.
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>>168389078
It's dead, Jim.
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What makes people want to make the least profitable game genre, with the highest failure rate, with the most amount of work and continual effort?
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>>168393032
what makes people write this kind of garbage
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ded
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>>168396435

Play Project Gorgon nigga
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>>168398854
I'm not gay.
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>>168398854
Can I be a sexy girl launching fireballs ?
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10
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Is it true that Code: Closers has keylogger? People keep bitching about it
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>>168402709
Yes, it's a way to detect hackers apparently.
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>>168402762
is it the XIGN?
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>>168398930

Yes, though I haven't gotten far enough in the game to get fire magic yet.

You could even play a sexy cat girl.
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>>168403361
Better post the thing before people get triggered.
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>Play Closers
>It's a reskinned DFO
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>>168404048
More like Elsword you dummy.
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So when is everyone going to get tired of the elf magic fantasy sword-man style MMORPG style world yet?
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>>168404306
Never.
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>>168404306
Why would anyone get tired of it? I love fighting dragon n shit.
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Is there any wakfu guild that is not dead? I don't feel like donating free guild points to 100+ member guild who has barely 5 member online on any day.
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Aion, BnS, Wildstar, GW2 (f2p) or Neverwinter?
Which one should I pick and why?
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>>168405394
Tera and because big dragon men and fun tanking.
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>>168404091
?
Elsword only lets you move up down left and right while DFO/Closers offers free range of movement including jumping.
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>>168405756
>not knowing the guy who made Elsword made closers aswell
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>>168405564
I did not enjoy playing Tera as a melee class though. Are casters fun?
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>>168405850
The only Mage class is easy and does high DPS. So you can enjoy it. It also has dots, slows, stuns, and can put mobs to sleep.
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Let's admit it people, this general is the end of the line.
All the rejects who can't enjoy mmos anymore, spiteful, angry people who got fucked in the ass one time too much, they all end up here.
And if you are here you fucking hate mmos, and every new release is a new occasion to login and nitpick the shit out of it so you can get some manner of entertainment from declaring it shit.
Then you go back to your corner empty and soulless, it's over you will never be able to have fun like the old time.
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>>168407612
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>>168407612
free bumps
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>>168407612
I'm here because of stuff like this.
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>>168405850
>not enjoying brawlers punchan
>not enjoying slayers backstabban
>not enjoying warriors flippan
>not enjoying zerkers crittan
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>>168405803
Yeah but it still plays like DFO

Also where the fuck is the support tree for El Resonance in Void?
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>>168393032
>least profitable game genre

are you retarded
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>Closers on minimum runs well on a 10 year old desktop
A korean mmo with optimization.
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>>168199163
but anon, everquest already did that. all those "hardcore" gamers didn't like having 1 guild cockblock them out of an endgame
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>>168404306
When they stop making them so sexy. So never however, I wouldn't mind a change of pace from time to time.
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>>168416549
Let's discuss about elves then.
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HOW IS YOUR EXP PARTY GOING GUYS?
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>>168417257
>RF Online

oh shit

can't believe people still play this game
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>>168417928
They really don't know when to stop and just fuck off. Damn midgets.
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I'm gonna download the Closers virus, I hope it doesn't steal my accounts
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>>168417257
>>168418040
>being a dirty Accretian
Bellato master race. Also I just found all my old RF online offical artwork which are probably hard to find these days.

>>168417928
>can't believe people still play this game
Fucking loved the 3 way race war the game had, shit was intense 24/7.
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>>168418381
It's going to keylog your firewalls and wireless your creditcards to russian hackers.
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>>168418994
Kek that BCC went down fast.
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>>168416871
I miss my gimped GA with triple shock and siege spams.
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>>168419120
>>168418040
>>168417257
Is this current? Seems pretty alive and I loved the fuck out of RF. What server?
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>>168419494
http://rf-moonlight.com
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>tfw just came back from doctors appt and he told me to get less sun
Anyway what's the deal with that Closers pserv? Is it going to get shut down soon or is it here to stay?
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>>168419120
Delete THIS

Also screenshot is from back when it was ran by codemasters if you noticed the date.
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>>168419638
>>168419781
Delete THIS

Also screenshot is from back when it was ran by codemasters if you noticed the date.
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>>168419630
Who knows? It's only been out a day or two anyway, so it's too early to tell.

At least the game's kinda fun.
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>>168419494
>Seems pretty alive
Probably has to be since offical servers were shutdown like 3 times already.

http://rfonline.gamescampus.com/
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>>168389078

Wakfu is pretty alive on servers like Remington. Literally blooming with new players. Go ahead, is a way better game now.
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>>168421530
>dailies everywhere
>better
Yeah, go fuck yourself.
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>>168421530
no its not
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My internet's been shit for a week, what's a single player offline game I can play that has some MMO aspects?
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>>168422194
Kingdom of Amalur: Reckoning
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Edgelord master race
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>>168422194
Xenoblade, Final Fantasy 12, .hack series.
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>>168422746
>Can't call him shit because he isn't
>Is actually good and pretty fun to boot
Easy grouping, good mobility and respectable damage, I hate how edgy he is but just keep playing him.
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>>168421883

Yeah? They are fun to do, and quite nice xp, specially if you have 16 characters like me.

>>168421919

Yes it is. The combat and skill reworks did wonders to the game. Class reworks were also neat, though, they require more tunement that they already are doing.

>m-muh kama minting!

Get over it already.
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>>168418381
Mistakes were made
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>>168410446
On average yes yes it is.
WoW and FFXIV aren't the only MMOs in existence you shit eating cunt
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>>168427456
>Was
>Implying no longer
I don't know how to feel about this mistranslation
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>>168407612

Honestly, the only thing that keeps me engaged in any MMORPG these days is roleplay, because I can atleast feel like there's some kind of journey involved and pretend like there's some kind of substance to all my mindless grinding

Fucking sucks that all MMOs are all about the destination now.
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>>168407612
Dude Reddit must love you
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>>168432239
I can see her panties.
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>>168432621
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>>168387702
Yes. WoW is pretty good.

Vanilla (Elysium) is less solo friendly but soloing is entirely possible, it's what made WoW the casual EQ killer in the first place.
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>when a set bonus gives you more survivability and power but it doesn't reflect in the stat screen so you lose a shit load of raw stats, and despite being far more powerful and resilient than before you feel weaker because you just know the numbers are lower
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>>168405394
Wildstar if you want housing or raiding
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So what's a good f2p mmo nowadays where I can play a healer in a similar vein to WoW?
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I'd like Mabi more if I wasn't forced to grind every skill in the game.
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You guys like card games?
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>>168439615

see:

>>168180776


Krosmaga is the best card game to play right now.
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>>168439615
No, aside from blackjack
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>>168439120
>implying there's any peer pressure to go over lvl1000 if you are solonogin' anyway
Sit here for months, years, rank things you don't like only during big exp skill events like current one that's just ended. You can clear all generation content on master warrior giant or human + buffs on your lvl 300s. Giant especially, since they although weaker, have 1 dmg from everything race specific shield.
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I want an MMO with good pvp combat and no or little grind. Is it possible? Does it exist?
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>>168441012
You probably want to try assfaggots/fightan/shootan since MMOs are based on grind

Though I do remember insta-cap arena WoW servers but that was years ago
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>>168441523
MMOs are based on having a lot of players, online.

Massively
Multiplayer
Online

Those are the only three qualifications. The grind cancer is just bad game design meant to keep people playing, but releasing an actually good game would do the same.
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>>168441647

how to maek perfect MMO
step 1:
>PvP so good that new players want to grind for it and old players want to keep doing it
>??? thats it

why do all mmo suck
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>>168442649
>MMO
>pvp
fuck off to ASSFAGGOTS/FPS/fightan gaymes
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>>168443264
t. pve babby
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>>168442649

>pvp
>not pvmp
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>>168443425
t. faggot who ganks lowbies 50 levels lower than you
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>>168443264

>MMO
>PvE only

yeah cabbage collecting simulator sounds real fun, who can click the most cabbage patches ?
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>>168443856
>PvE consists of fetch quests only
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>>168443856
>What is a boss
>What is a raid
>What are dungeons
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>>168444692
Those are minigames.
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>>168443703
>p2wvmp

FTFY
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>>168443856

xXxUchihaWeedSonic2003xXx please go
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Downloading Wildstar, what should I expect ?
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>>168444692

>what is every other non mmo videogame with actual story/campaign modes, Co-op optional

Playing MMO for any reason other than economy influencing PvP is pretty retarded. Yeah have fun grinding for a game that quickly runs out of shit to actually do, meanwhile good PvP is infinite playtime.
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>>168443264
Look at this carebear and laugh.
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>>168445836
Whatever float your boat mate. I rarely enjoy competition, personnally. Makes me overreact. So I prefer PvE and I also prefer cooperation that is optionnal but rewarding. Being able to solo through or team up with your friends is better than being stuck with no-names retards (I'm looking at you, MOBAs) or having to befriend peoples you couldn't give less of a fuck about.
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>>168444692
>>168444205
Fuck off to payday, or vermintide, both very good games tailormade for you.
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>>168445836
What mmo do you play for economy influencing PvP?
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>>168445737
Nothing so that you have a chance to enjoy it
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>>168444692
those are the very reason MMOs are shit right now

why the fuck would you play a MMO just to split up into small group instanced zones. people like you are what killed MMOs. just to be clear, i am not saying PvE is the cancer kill MMOs. i am saying the "i want MMOs to be just 20 man multiplayer games with a visual chat room world elsewere" is what killed MMOs.
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>>168445737
A decent game with several contradicting aspects.
The more you'll play the more you'll wonder why it's so dead, and the more you'll wish it wasn't.
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>>168446404

none thats why I'm complaining

MMO i enjoyed the most was probably runescape2 though, because grinding actually felt comfy and risking for profit in pvp was always fun.
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>>168447054
I miss early Archeage. The combat sucked, but the game still managed to have some of the most fun pvp experiences I've had in an MMO.
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>>168446473

What else are you supposed to do in MMOs?

With exception to large scale PvP battles, there isn't much else that an individual PLAYER can actually do that matters on a scale of hundreds or thousands of players.
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>>168447054
>>168447278

It's because you were young.
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>>168447415
>wanting to matter
>in a massively multiplayer anything

Yep, your kind are ruining the genre.
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>tfw this thread is making you want to play a bunch of shitty fun MMOs but you already have one game you want to neglect but kind of want to try to see if new games are actually addicting because you've never been addicted to an MMO before and just want to so you can empathize with people who do
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>>168447278
i miss archeage. some of the most MMO fun i have had in an extremely long time. shame about the pay2win and horrific server stability

>>168447415
theres plenty of options for a single player to influence a world in my opinion. it doesnt have to be massively multiplayer at a single point in time, but at least allow for a lot of people to interact instead of just splitting up into their small group clique instance.

for instance a merchant in ragnarok online. you had a lot of potential customers and it was spontaneous interaction and every passing player could look at your shop. its not massive but it adds life and gives the feel of a massive world and there being actual other players in it.

archeage or dark ages of camelot housing is another non-pvp example. in DAoC you could sell things, but archeage is a more recent example. your house didnt really do too much to the world but seeing all of them added to the feel of the world actually having players. you could see them working their farms, filling up their carts, and just seeming like they added something to the world. just going through the zones you could see that people lived their lives through theses places and you might even see them doing things.

there doesnt need to be massive meetings, but at least have some semblence of a world
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ded
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F2P, B2P, or Sub?
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>>168452194
b2p+sub to filter out as much cancer as possible
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>>168452194

Doesn't really matter. All of those business models are subject to greed and shoehorned microtransactions nowadays. Still, if I had to choose: Sub is the lesser of the three evils.
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>>168452329
>WoW fanbase
>not cancer incarnate
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>>168452194
What about all 3?
A subscription based game with a f2p area and expansions that can be bought with real money? F2p players can grind in game gold and buy the expansion from other players.
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>>168452787

So Runescape?
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>>168452329
have you even seen ffxiv?
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>>168452969
Basically. But there's no expansions to be bought.
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>>168453009
Yes I did, have you seen OBT of archeage? Most cancerous global chat I've ever seen. I wish they had free servers and another ones behind paywall.
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How many of you have ever played a MUD?
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>>168453203

I really wish there was a slightly more up to date and graphically game that kept the same insanity and great communities of MUDs.

Something like a SS13 MMO would be pretty cool.
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I just want an MMO with a strong sense of community. I don't care if there's a ton of grinding or the combat is boring. I just want to shoot the shit with randoms while I spend hours doing nothing.
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>>168453203
I have played in mud. Good times.
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>>168453371
Well there's lotro

Great community but normie as fuck since all 3 people who play are grandparents
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>>168453371
Hex has a very comfy community, but it isn't much of an mmo yet outside of the aspect of trading with other players or entire community in the auction house, and having global chat. raids, guilds, etc. are going to be implemented in the near future which is really cool for a card game. The thing im disappointed with in Hex is that it doesn't have an overworld/player hub as cheesy as that sounds, but maybe in the future when the rest of the mmo stuff is fleshed out?
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What do you think is the most immersive MMORPG, /mmog/?
I'm currently playing GW2 but I keep drifting back to WoW thanks to GW2's shitty unexplainable fast travel bullshit and overall forgettable (if well designed) open world.
That and how badly the plot serves up the PC on a silver platter.
WoW might be goofy and a bit dated, but at least the world feels real and not like a video game.
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>>168446738
>and the more you'll wish it wasn't.

But why though
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>>168456346
Because lots of aspects of the game rely on active players to feel complete.
The housing system sometimes feels hollow without friends,
The fungeons are interesting and presented well but without people to play them with while leveling up you're SOL,
Passing by the same untouched settlement plot for a week is a bit disheartening too,
World PvP also had to be disabled by default because there's only 1 [one] server,
Also if you keep your global channel enabled you'll slowly start to recognize cancerous individuals who post every night, and slowly start to realize you're stuck with these retards if you continue to play.

Little things that add up.
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>>168456186
>12 yo old game with kung fu pandas in it is immersive
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>>168323295
For fuck's sake dude, keep your /v/ autism out of /vg/ please. If you don't like PoE, you don't have any need to shit on it. The game is good, so it shouldn't be a fucking surprise that someone is recommending it.
>>
STO
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>>168457060

But how can (we) revive the game?
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>>168440068
Try Eternal.
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Isn't your mount supposed to have inventory in mabinogi? How do you open it?

Or do the broom, eagle, and horse you get for free not have any inventory space? Anytime I hit manage inventory on them nothing happens.
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>>168458341

Wanted to, want to, but man, that game is ugly as hell. From the UI to the comic art.
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>>168234680
>no decent online client
Etherlords 2 should be in prehistoric tier though
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>>168459175
>Or do the broom, eagle, and horse you get for free not have any inventory space?
Yes.

A free pet with an inventory is the Pegasus. Finish all Saga 1 missions and you get it.
Bonus if you have 8 characters and do it on each one. That's 8 free Pegasi pets with a decent inventory and AoE.
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>>168180776
>infinity wars
>>
Is anybody even playing closers?
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>>168462108

Oh yeah, I was forgetting that one. I put it on B tier. Ugly as sin.
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>>168461987
>That's 8 free Pegasi pets with a decent inventory and AoE.

Sweet shit. Just gotta grind my way up to being able to do those quests.
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>>168463714

Too anime generic to matter. Looks like shonen of the month. Forgettable. Only for 16 to 21 year olds (and at that point is embarrassing.)
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>want to rank Refining
>have to fail to make iron ore to progress any further
>have a 99% success rate
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>>168463714
I played for little bit then had to do something else, seemed like an alright game to me I might play it some more later
>>
How is Final Fantasy? I hear a lot of people claim it's the best MMO right now.
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What's the word on Camelot Unchained? Is it going to be the next great pvp disappointment, or will it deliver?
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>>168465238
Excellent themepark PvE MMO. Pretty shitty PvP.
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>>168466194
it wont be a disappointment if no one is expecting anything
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>>168464050
That's actually a bad idea. The lower level you are the easier it is because a lot o the mission scales. Honestly just get your main to finish it to get the first pet.
After that you can do the Saga as soon as you finish the tutorial by just spamming the pet AoE. Some parts are harder but it gets easier once you have more pets. Around 4 or 5 pets should be easy enough to clear it with no problems.
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>>168453203
I played iron realms muds for a while
Tried aardwolf and discmud, couldn't get into them
>>
holy shit revelation is trash
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>>168466194
It's still kind of too nothing to really judge. The planned systems are neat, though
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Is DCUO dead or is it still being sustained by hues? Getting the itch for it again even though I know it's not very good. Haven't actually played actively since they released the Flash shit.
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>>168467210
welcome to 6 months ago?
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>>168465238
It looks really nice, and has nice animations.
Consists almost entirely of glorified hallways.
Healing is the only fun role, offset by the fact you get paired with retarded fucking consolekiddies.
Tanking is boring as shit.
Playing DPS is okay.
There is zero variety within classes. Everything you will do as a job is already determined by the developers and usually piss easy to figure out. On the flip side, one character can swap jobs on the fly, so you essentially never need to make an alt.
Story is alright, but has some of the worst VAing in history if you have the audio on english.
PvP is totally broken and not even worth considering. No, they aren't going to fix it.
The UI is fucking amazing in how customisable it is.
Crafting is the best it's ever been in basically any RPG.
WoW is still better in almost every way, somehow.

Overall, a decent game. Definitely not worth the sub, but if you're an adult who can afford it without thinking then it's worth a shot.
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>>168468647
>Crafting is the best it's ever been in basically any RPG.

I've always been curious as to what the crafting is like in FF
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Good source for info for Albion Online? It's rather caught my attention with a few videos I've seen.
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Just loaded up Wildstar

Exiles or Dominion?

Also I've literally never played or wanted to play a female waifu character in any MMO before, should this be the first time I start
>>
How is Festia in Mabunogi? I heard you can potentially get skill seals and ap pots from the treasure chest event
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>>168469861
Dominion has bazingarats, but exiles have FREE HUGS catfags
dominion's ded though
these days pretty much everything is crossfaction so which you choose doesn't matter aside from flavor
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>>168470021

I do like the Bazingarats.

There is no fucking way I'm going to make this female rat any cute at all, is there?
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>>168468647
>>168468934
Crafting is shit. I don't know how anyone could like it.
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>>168470462
>female rat
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>>168470714

Can't handle a woman with CURVES, Anon?~
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Power of the Primal Matrix when?
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>>168470548
Well, compare it to any other game, where you basically click on a recipe and it makes it for you.
Riveting.
In FFXIV, you get a whole bar of skills to use on each recipe, which do all kinds of things which may or may not be good for the recipe you're crafting at the moment.
It's actually got more depth than the combat.
It also does a good job of not being some skinnerbox throwaway skill that you just grind up as you level. It takes some time and dedication to work your crafting to higher levels.
The main setback is that there's no real rewards for crafting outside of making gil.

It's definitely not the best system imaginable, but it sure is out of the ordinary.
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>>168470462
I had to cheat and use the most cliche shit to get something I was happy with.
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>>168471032
>wanting the elder gem grind all over again
I just want the new abilities everyone's getting.
The Primal Matrix crap seems kinda redundant anyway when raid gear already horrendously overpowered even veteran dungeons.
There was enough of a power gap there to fit in Primal difficulty, why make that gap even wider?
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Should I try ESO? Looks like a decent time waster and my friends are playing it.
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>>168471738
It's meh I guess?
I liked it more before it went full on GW2 with its leveling.
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>>168470462

You can get something kinda nice using smug face over "Disney approved (TM)" face

Also >tfw old as fuck screenshot
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>>168471514
I don't know about the primal matrix itself, but I want the vet dungeon scaling. Though I don't know how fracturing it up into 10 different tiers with the already small population is going to turn out for queue times.
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>>168472938
people aren't gonna queue for mythics
they'll use lfg and guild chat
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Has the population filled in for queing for groups or PvP?

This game seemed fun but I like playing healers and never found groups while trying to level up.
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>tfw every game is fucking dead forever
>tfw every game is, has been, and will become a F2P that is somehow impossibly more jewish and irritating then a subscription fee
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>>168464608
did you find a way to do it? There are dex reduction titles, you could wear a heavy armor, also the better wood you use in Vales the bigger is your fail rate. In a long term, squire boxes drop production failure potions, also useful in handicraft.
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>>168478168
Also rebirth and don't put anything in dex skills.
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>>168478432
you mean, respec at Tir's chief.
Please don't rebirth out of your blacksmithing talent.
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also if you respec you will lose your current rank training exp, rip those already done things.
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>>168466604

The saga is The Advent of the Goddess quest line, right?
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>>168479548
No, that's a Generation 1 quest.
I'm talking about The Saga: Iria
http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/The_Saga:_Iria

The option to start it should be in the menu bar or something.
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>>168468647
GW2:
>to craft legendary weapons and armor, you have to go on massive quests encompassing nearly every zone, to accumulate hundreds of materials (almost none of which are on an RNG and are instead tied to hidden quests).

GW2 has the best crafting in any game I've played, because it emphasizes actually playing the game.
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>>168471950
But GW2 leveling is amazing.
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>>168479880

Oh. Well shit, guess I'll start that soon. Thanks man.
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>>168479548
It's directly after, so you'll get a bit spoiled. Don't rush though, If the tomorrow's o-x quiz is the same deal as a year ago, there will be free clouds or horses, as a reward for player's mad skills of ctrl+f-ing the wiki with the old list of questions+answers. Or maybe they will finally update it kek
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>>168477662
What game muthsera?
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>>168479984
>precursor drops are literally RNG
>all the new legendary crafting shit are just crafting precursors which require about 3849712 days logging on worth of laurels and mats that require you to farm bosses over and over
>best crafting
it's literally gook tier
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>>168480174
>free clouds
Aww, that makes me want to play. But I don't want to get disappointed 3 days later because there's nothing to fucking do.
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>>168479984
kek
no, I actually play GW2. The crafting is just combining materials in a certain pattern over and over again.
Legendary "crafting" isn't even about crafting, it's about having the time and money to get the right 4 materials so you can drag and drop them into a panel to get the thing and then getting 3 more things to combine again.
You can actually get pretty much every legendary without having any crafting skills too.
The "massive quests" are optional and cost you more time and money than simply buying the precursors off the trading post since they still drop in open world.
Maybe a handful of the thousands of materials you need to collect are tied to "hidden quests", the rest are just generic items that you either farm on an alt or buy for dirt cheap off the TP.
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Will there ever be an MMO where the PvE is as good and has as much staying power as the PvP?
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>>168480879
Wakfu
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> return of the O-X Quiz
More free pets, nice
>a brand new Attendance Event
I hope this is the one with autoequip thing as the final reward
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>>168479984
>GW2 has the best crafting in any game I've played
have you played any games other than gw2
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>>168480879
No. PvE mmo players are a self defeating community. They will always whine on forums and propose absolutely retarded changes that ultimately make the game worse for themselves.

If you want PvE, play vermintide, diablo, payday, etc.
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>>168481259
>They will always whine on forums and propose absolutely retarded changes that ultimately make the game worse for themselves.

As opposed to PvP players who believe any time they die it's never their fault and it's always because the classes are unbalanced even when they lose a winning matchup? lol
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>>168481231
tera, archeage, bdo, bns, runescape, swtor, teso

>>168481332
Those are PvE players trying out PvP.
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>>168481367
>Those are PvE players trying out PvP.

False Dichotomy. PvE whiners are actually PvP players trying out PvE for the first time.
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>>168481587
Incorrect. PvP players generally succeed at PvE, because they don't build bad habits against AI.
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>>168480548
it's a big problem, most "to do"s are behind some boring leveling
what did I do today? Fragmented (fragmentation) a stack of stamina 300 potions for lucky clovers which I saved from that one fishing event (fishing), made them into lucky potions (potion making, herb picking for the rest of the mats), got the random dungeon passes from them, run those (warrior etc). What's 5 skills/skillsets just for one evening in game. What did I do yesterday? Farmed prop small gems in that defeat the shadow wiz shadow mission just to feed them to fucking Tara pigeons because I was one tough string short to rank up carpentry and asking for help is scary after I mistakenly already requested tough threads, and I guess being retard helps me a ton with this game. For example i was too inattentive to notice my moonlight teleportation book being a thing and thus I went to Cor (Saga 1 destination) horseback. Took me 4 after work evenings to get there...
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>>168480879
FF14 is literally all about PVE
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>>168453371
I've been playing mabi.pro, its a private server of mabinogi based on the leaked japan files from 2010 despite the server being half jap half eng the community is REALLY good altho small because it was released a few days ago
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>>168483154
>private server
lol
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>>168483154
Nexon will get you, like they got aura's github
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>>168483383
>nexon
>arresting players

Theyre just arrest the devs or try to take down the site, idc either way im just having fun till its all over
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Ok guys.

Archeage
Skyforge
or BDO

For gameplay not waifu/weeb/erptrash shit
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>>168484553
>super p2w
>p2w
>slightly less p2w
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>>168484553
>shit
>shit
>shit
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>>168463714
I imagine everyone who played and enjoyed Elsword is playing it.
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Any current mmos with plot as good as PSO2's first 3 Eps?
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>>168172895
Holy shit. I used to play Asheron's Call when I was a kid with my dad and uncles. I'm sad to find out the game has come to an end.
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You know, I'm actually 100% okay with your weapon and armor not dropping anymore in Mabi.
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>>168489549
Yeah, because you only get them from gacha now.
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>>168479186
Didn't they added refine failure potion in cash shop? Also old furnances at vales have 5% less success rate.
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>>168490029
Not sure if you can buy them directly, but every event has some sort of gacha rng box that has them.
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>>168490119
Anyway best/cheapest way to do this is to befriend cook. With catering he should be able to take off around 200dex maybe.
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>>168490189
It really shouldn't matter. Respecing at Duncan and with heavy armor should give you 30%-40% success rate which should be enough.
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I wanna fug this person.
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I want to return back to FFXIV, but I probably have days of quests to catch up on before I even hit the expansion bullshit.

Stopped playing like a year before Heavensward.
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>>168491353
>liking niggers
No thanks.
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>have a shit work schedule
>only time you can play is when the server is asleep
>maintenance takes 8 hours making you unable to play at all
Fuck me.
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>>168491870
how does it feel to be so constantly insecure and feel threatened?
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>>168491870
I love 2D brown girls.
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>>168492183
brown is the color of shit
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>>168492341
Not mine.
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HOW IS THAT WAR GOING ON GUYS?
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How do we fix it?
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>>168492943
Wildstar already fixed it
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>>168492943
There's nothing wrong with it.
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>>168492943
Vindictus combat.
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>>168493019
>Wildstar
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>>168492341
and Pale white is the color of your mom's barf

your point?
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>>168492838
Little chaotic but it's cool.
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>>168492943
what needs fixing about it?
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>>168493019

How so? It literally is just the trinity, but each class can play two roles.
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>>168493142
Healing isn't clicking on raidframes.
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>>168492943
God should be the Tank, Jesus should be the DPS and Holy Spirit should be the Healer.
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>>168492943
Remember when we have the 4th role which is the Crowd Control?
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>>168493443
>Jesus should be the DPS

>>168493507
>4th role
The healing was secondary option, or just done after fight.
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>>168493443
Jesus is the tank, see all the hits he took for your sins. God is the DPS, look at how easily he murders entire civilizations. Holy Spirit is the healer because it's gay.
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>>168492943
Introduce true support roles.
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>>168494769

>Healing isn't a 'true' support role
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>>168494769
So more buffs, debuffs and CC?
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>>168494769
>>168496848

Isn't that what Guild Wars 2 did? Somebody told me that game has buff abilities that last only a few seconds.
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>>168497237
Nah, GW2 is just "spam shit as hard and as fast as you can, all the spam, all the time"
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>>168497237
That's what GW2 tried to do, although it failed somewhat.
In PvE, they made it too easy for a few specific classes to shit out all the boons so every single top comp ever becomes [the classes that crap out the best buff] and whichever class is meta at the moment. Usually elementalist or some random class that accidentally got buffed to shit out tons of condition damage.

So in a way, yes, that's what GW2 does. The problem is that all the best buffs are on 2-3 professions, leaving the other 6 locked in a race of pure DPS.
This is partially due to the boon system. Because only those few classes have useful unique (non-boon) buffs, everyone else is pushed to the sideline because the boon/condition system means they have basically no niche that isn't filled by another, better class.
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I don't like having to use 20 hotkeys in game
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>>168495218
>>168496848
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>>168480180
Wow, what a fail, was meant for Wildstar.

I played when it went f2p and had fun as an Esper, but the leveling got boring with only super rare group or PvP matches.
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>>168493507
Ahhh, 1999, a good year.
>>
>>168493507
>>168494769
Rift had that but they introduced a healing tree for each class, so now all CC specs is a healslut as off spec or healers have CC as off spec.
>>
>try Closers
>Keep trying to use space to jump and x for heavy attack like in Elsword
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>>168507593
3d movement was a mistake
>>
Are there any mmos with no quests or few quests, or even no friendly npc? Can be a private server.
>>
closers or codeclosers
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>>168509707
ragnarok
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>>168509707
hordes.io
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>>168510905
Whoever is closer to you, because latency
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>>168503546
Play WoW
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Is there any MMO with fun cc classes and good PvP? I remember archeage had some great cc trees, tera had the mystic, etc. But these MMOs are dying.
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>>168493507
>Back when rogue was useful for sapping, stunning, unlocking things, and getting the group extra treasure
2005-2006 was a nice year for me.
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>>168513397
>minimum 60 hotkey required to play
o-okay
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>>168514863
>sapping
get seen half the time, needs to be ooc, while mages can just sheep
>stunning
useless vs bosses
>unlock
engi, also there are keys for important doors
>extra treasure
useless junk
>>
>You will never play on a roleplay focused server that primarily does story driven PvP.
>Every RP server is dominated by grown men pretending to be jailbait """girls""" with dicks.
>>
>>168511863
>ragnarok
#1 or #2?
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>>168514997
WoW has never been that bad, anon.
Now more than ever, you can play any class effectively with one of those MMO mice with 12 buttons.
They crunched down all the skills several years ago so classes only have access to a specific set, so you literally don't even have enough skills to fit into 20 hotkeys for most classes.
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>>168515236
One obviously. 2 is complete garbage.
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>>168515236
2. Don't let the nostalgia fags ruin you. It's good
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anyone play riders of icarus here? debating whether or not i want to give it a shot, tried the beta and had some fun with berserker, but a friend told me it gets needlessly grindy and that turned me off from staying.
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>>168516026
Name one (1) good thing about RO2.
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>>168515320
I don't play wow now, but I used to when I was playing tbc-wotlk.

Any effective pvp gameplay required atleast couple dozen keybinds.

You could play the game sometimes with few keybinds if you're playing pve. And about a dozen if you're playing pvp, but that's just the bare minimum. This only gets you ahead of people who don't keybind anything.
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The fuck is this roll
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>>168517154
music
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I'm downloading archeage again.

I played a bit during launch and it was a lagfest. Now it should be fine with casual plays, bit of endgame/pvp.
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>>168518714
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3w7L_gmnm0

aaaand that's all folks!
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>>168480879
Dungeon and Dragons Online
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I downloaded Elsword about 4 days ago

It was a mistake

Literally bored out of my mind after playing this game for a couple hours each day
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>>168520404
That game's only selling point is the PvP, but even that's shit anywhere outside of Korea due to latency and the p2p system. PvE near level cap is fucking stupid though.
>Invincibility phases on bosses
>Enemies that sometimes act even under hitstun because lag lmao in parties
>Both bosses and elite mobs have dumb amounts of health and damage with the same shit AI.
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Just what the fuck am I getting myself into? Also what the fuck is up with needing a laucher, do I seriously need this damn thing just to play?
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>>168521237
Why are AIs in general are the most laziest coding ever in MMORPGs? It's literally Hit -> Wait -> Hit -> Move around etc.
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>>168521342
uninstall
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>>168521342
Lolis, futry, and weeb shit>>168521441
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>>168521441
Because why bother putting effort into something people don't care. Instead they could just up their damage and hp and there you go, a high difficulty mob! Genius!
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>tfw No new flaor of the month and not interested in joining any private servers for dead mmorpg's.
Jesus I cant remember when was the last time the mmorpg market was so fucking barren. Aeria is realeasing bless with new combat never and when they do, they are gonna fuck it up with p2w. What options do I have anymore?
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>>168521806
New Thread
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>>168233552
ESO actually improved a lot since launch. Right now is a pretty good MMO with a lot of unique features that you don't see anywhere else. The only complain being the massive lore rape.
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>>168463714
the pvp is ok, it's like a bootleg DFO

i also really appreciate that it knows how to reward the player for winning
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>>168521342
You launch the game and then kill it. Steam ver. you can't really kill the steam process so it's a good alternative really.
>>
really really really really
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>>168522443
Thanks for this. Just getting in, not sure what race to pick/class. Last time I tried this game there were no races.
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>>168523906
Races have been in there since like, forever.
Are you just shitposting?
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>>168524050
I don't know, I seriously don't remember races in mabinogi back in 07 but like I said I've only tried mabinogi so I never really got into the game.
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>>168524281
If you're that new, you could probably amuse yourself for a week or so, trying out all the stuff in game. It gets boring really quickly after that tho.
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>>168523906
Elves are good for very endgame mage nuking and giants are good for surviving in the party to res the rest = so to play with some op human friends if you have any, and humans are just good in everything.
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>>168517301
This ain't TBC anymore son

BM hunter rotation is literally 3 buttons + cooldowns
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>>168517154
The Soul Linker buffs are such interesting class design it legitimately makes me mad that it isn't in an at least halfway decent game.
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>>168514997
you mean 1 macro
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