/domg/ - Dominions General

First for Aboleth traps

>>168054568
I for one, welcome our anime overlords.

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Me playing Dominions.

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>>168055218
pic related

>>168054716
>all my favorite nations don't get anything
>except for one
>Arco mystics
>which lose all their magical paths once prophetised for some reason

Fucking illfraud.

>>168055783
I think prophets keep their magic paths Anon.

However, if the prophet shape already has H3 they'll still just have that and not go to 4. Only really a thing with EA C'tis afaik.

>>168055783
Prophet Shamans a best.

>>168056673
Again, they keep their paths, so no S/N boost. If you wanted to mod that in, you'd have to add a pathboost to the shape rather than put the paths on that form.

>>168054568
How did it die?

>>168057136
It got Sy'd.

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>>168057136

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>>168055218

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>>168054568
Dominions 5 when??

>>168057880

t.Malakal

>>168057880
>tfw manipulated two different neighbors into giving you free provinces in exchange for warring the other
Now I have to pick which one to actually attack, though.

>>167986975

>TC deathbasketed the one who killed them

That's funny, it must have gotten lost in the mail. Don't tell me the postman sent it to Ur's mailbox by mistake?

>>168056970
so illfraud doesnt know how its own mechanic works

>>168061161
Wow, I sure didn't expect that was a thing.

>>168059837
not for 5 more years

>>168061161
Well they dont know how fear works so its not strange they dont know how other shit works.

>>168061609
At least we got to know that high intake of cocaine can cause memory loss.

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>>168056970
>>168061161
>>168061238
>>168061609

Ignore him. He's talking shit. This is trivially testable.

>>168056970
Nigga, I've been prophetizing them for years.
Getting a FREE thistle mace and moonvine braclet is fucking god tier.

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>>168061748
>>168062182

>>167987692

If by real fun you mean birbos snowballing uncontested, then yeah, here we go.

And if you thought those Melqart raids were garbage, you haven't seen anything yet.

>last to submit a turn
>doesn't submit a double turn
>for like a dozen turns in a row
Can we get a sub for Hinnom?

>Evocation Bonus 20
What does this mean?

>>168061748
>>168062182
>>168062290
Oh, you know what? I found out what's going on. Summod makes it so that prophetizing actually adds those as a pathpoost. In vanilla, it's still S1N1. Guess you've been playing with summod for years

>>168062290

Indie Shamen don't have Prophetshapes.

>>168059837
sleep tite pupper

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>>168062460
That's not an indy, retard.

If it kept the paths that the prophet's base form says it has, it'd be S2N3 rather than S2N2.

>>168062409
>>168062650
>>168062290
>>168056970
You guys are all retarded.

>>168062408

20% gem discount on all Evocation rituals cast in a lab in that province.

>>168062753
because we actually verified how it works instead of talking out of our ass and being wrong?

>>168062753
y-you too

>>168062807
So in other words, not that useful aside from boosting a few globals.

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>>168061336
Fuck you

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>>168063985

>>168063985
We're still getting patches for Dom4, so Dom5 is clearly not yet in development. His estimate is reasonable.

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how about a game of dominions 4 thrones of ascension

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LightAle

late ages
snerdryn with removed bad starts
uses better arena
site frequency +10
everything else as usual

>>168063985
why do you want dom5 FFS!

>>168059837
Not before Illfraud delivers EA Rus, MA Uruk and LA Machaka.

>>168067016
>snerdryn with removed bad starts
shouldve made it remove BAT starts
:^)

>>168067016
Does Better Arena even work?

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>>168067167
that's the players' job

>>168067016
I don't want to play, but I can't say no to Megumin

>>168067505
Can confirm. Seen an onyx oracle win the chains of tartarus once.

Can monoliths join the arena? Asking for a friend

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>>168067505
Works for me.

>>168068035
Go away Sy.

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>>168068173
That's not someone I'd expect to be mistaken for

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>>168067615
do it

>>168068961
>make test game
>3 years, no death match
guess I better use debug mod and wish for it

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>tfw scrub
>tfw knew this was going to happen
>tfw mentally changed my mage scripting
>didn't actually do it
>it really happened
pls

>>168069370
An arena battle is never late, nor is it early, it happens precisely when it means to.

>>168066750
Dom3 got patches not only in the months before dom4 was announced, but during the beta and more than 6 months after release- at version 4.06b of dom4.

http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom3/dom3progress.html

Also somebody who betad dom4 kept talking up possible features in IRC.

>>168068961
Fine. In as lizards

>>168069408
my scouts still tell me you have 200 troopsand sauro 160

just do wither bones / banishment are you are set. sauro's strat is entirely depending on skeles stopping your attack

EAChinesenewyears reset the game so I could get in

<3

did we already had the death match in VanillaNewbs? can't remember we had one.

>>168069370
Maybe it's moddable, that might be better.

Does anyone who does event modding know if it's possible to set a global event with a 25% (or whatever) chance to cause the arena per turn?

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/domg/ games waiting for pretenders

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=FrogAndToad
MA

Map: Realm of Roaring Cave Rhinos 2
Mods: Worthy Heroes 5.8, Summod 0.77

Nations joined so far:
Sceleria
Agartha
Asphodel
Ashdod

***

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LightAle

Map: Snerdryn1.1_nostart
Mods: Worthy Heroes 5.8, BetterArena, Summod 0.77

Nations joined so far:
Utgard

>>168072175
fuck that
why not
what are 2 more games
I always lose in 2 weeks anyway

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hi
help

150 gobin
40 barbaran
28 archer
2 oni
2 snek mage
2 preist
1 prophet

vs

1 vanhorse
6 husker
12 vanhorses
w9n9


can win??

>>168073046
no

>>168073046
massive overkill. you should invade arco and birds, and also pump pd in other border province and invade elf

>>168072175
obligatory Ulm sent

>>168072175
Joined as Bogurus. 50/50 chance that I kill more of my own mages through mismanaging communions than any enemy actually does.

>>168076038
Hello Nick. Let's hope that won't happen, we're rooting for you.

Why do Boulder Thrower boulders and Siege Golem fists and things like that not have AoE 1? Sum1wun please fix this massive oversight.

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>>168074636
If you want something that can awake expand and also summon vamp counts, consider pic related. I'm not totally sure on the scales yet, but I was going to use something like it

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>>168080278
>>168074636
and then this one I hadn't actually tested, but it should work okay since E4B1 worked fine for expanding when I tried it out for Abysia

>>168072175
I'm the one who mentioned MA Atlantis a while back. I'll finally submit for FrogAndToad. I think I can make this work.

And while I'm posting, YIAMAG admin can you please set Marignon to AI. He's clearly abandoned the game after realizing how woefully bad his expansion turned out and is going to be eaten by China within 5 turns anyway. I don't want to have to wait an extra week for this to happen.

Did the Summod changes to LA Man do anything decent? I like the nation normally and improved magisters and judges sound like a good idea.

Judging by you doing your turn without contacting me, I'll assume you don't actually care about having eyes of god then white.

Maybe I'll use my pearls to cast it myself and become the superior journalist.

do it then, punk

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>>168080278
>>168080469
I'm thinking about using pic related (spoilered in hopes other players ingame obey some kind of etiquette and dont adjust strats accordingly) instead of a Vampire Queen
In general I like to have Fortune 3 as LA Ulm because the Blood Marshall hero is great and if you pick him up in the 1st-2nd year he clears indies nicely

only other thing is "do I go turm 3 or not"; in the past I've not really felt any major ill effects from it but at the same time it's a significant income hit until fortune 3 kicks in and starts dropping you 1k gold bonus events

>>168082274
>nick bullying people for no trading with them

kek

Holy fuck setting up testing conditions sucks so much ass.

Dom5 needs only 3 things:
Built in inspector/game modifier allowing you to set up specific battles
Spell exclusion in scripting
Mages cast the same spell at the same time in combat

Figuring out how Fear works is an option as well.

>>168085461
I think spell exclusion would make mages too good. They're already game defining.

>>168085461
Don't forgot the second recruitment cue for non-mage commanders.

>>168084093
>Turmoil 3 on a blood nation
Does that raise the negative impact of blood hunting?

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>>168057305

>>168085461

This would ruin the game imo

the charm of dominions is the clusterfuck of nothing quite working perfectly

once you turn it into objective esportzz rock paper scissors countering through hours of inspector powergaming battles it would get pretty ugly

>>168085770
yes
but you either just patrol harder or not at all; the penalty to a hunt for high unrest doesn't really matter when you can send as many hunters as LA Ulm can and the requirement for more patrollers isn't an issue to a nation that happily recruits 20 fieldable stealth crossbowmen a turn per fort

so it's a non-issue really

>>168086103
>the charm of dominions is the clusterfuck of nothing quite working perfectly
fucking this

>>168085770

Means you get less dominion based unrest reduction, meaning you need more patrollers and they kill more pop through patrolling (since there's more unrest.)

That's not ideal, but LA Ulm counts automatically generate free chaff patrollers just by existing, so it's less of a big deal for them than, say, Abysia, which needs to recruit or summon it's patrol chaff.

>>168085770
It raises unrest slightly. It's not optimal, but people overvalue it.

>>168085691
Oh yes, absolutely.

>>168085669
Maybe. I just want to have a bit of input past turn 5. Not full scripting for 50 turns or anything like that.

>>168086103
Yeah, but you can already do that. It just takes much longer than it needs to. I don't need to get every variable exactly the way it's going to happen in a future battle. I just want to get a rough idea of battles I haven't fought before and don't have a good idea of.

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2 slots left in http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LightAle

>>168086103
I kind of agree with you, although largely in part because
1) I'd be too lazy to check OR
2) I'd feel compelled to check a bunch or to be left in ignorance, and neither are fun and
3) The game has a bunch of dice rolling underneath, fuzzying stuff a bit. Especially because the RNG is shit.

>>168085461
No no no

It needs DYNAMIC TERRAIN

I want to be able to scout provinces, look at the battle map with more interesting terrain features, and then determine where to put all my dudes based on that information.

Maybe even include magic sites on the battlemap.

>>168085461
>Built in inspector/game modifier allowing you to set up specific battles
Doesn't need that.
>Spell exclusion in scripting
I wouldn't complain, but not strictly necessary. It should definitely be limited, or you'd just exclude every spell except the one you want them to spam.
>Mages cast the same spell at the same time in combat
What, you mean just to make the replays faster? It would be okay I guess but it should definitely be an option you can disable. Not something I'd consider necessary.

>>168088730
>I want to have to rescript everything for each fight
Fuck that.

>>168090831
>you'd just exclude every spell except the one you want them to spam
...and what's the problem with that?

>What, you mean just to make the replays faster?
Probably to remove defensive advantage.

>>168091327
The problems with that are
>>168086103
>>168085669

And defensive advantage isn't a bad thing.

>>168090831
>Doesn't need that.
It also doesn't need graphics or a user interface. It would move acceptable testing out of the hands of those with enough autism and time to use the tools we already have to do the exact same thing.

>What, you mean just to make the replays faster?
Yes, but also much cooler looking.

>>168091561
Testing is bullshit anyway.

>>168091730
It's miles better than pure theorycrafting when you're bad at the game and want to know how well you can do in a situation you've never been in before.

>>168092526
"better" if you mean "more likely to win" maybe, but it's not more fun.

>>168092526
When you're bad at the game and want to gauge a situation you just throw together whatever seems most likely to work and pray to Allah that you guessed right. Receiving a turn with the results to an uncertain battle is the best thing about Dominions.

>>168091528
There already isn't much randomness, it just takes experience to learn the AI's priorities. Once you've done that, it's very easy to figure out what the AI will cast off-script. Letting off-script mages be somewhat human-controlled might actually increase the variety of spells cast when mages go off-script.

For mages becoming more game-defining, I don't agree. Are mages especially overpowered when doing skellyspam? Skellyspam is basically the only thing a death mage will do once off script, so it's already like having every other spell disabled.

>>168092573
>>168092626
>you're having fun wrong

>>168092998
There is objectively nothing fun about crunching numbers to maximize your odds of winning. If you're that committed to success why don't you delete Dominions and get a job?

>>168093097
Even if I agreed with you, that description is nothing like how testing stuff in dominions works.

C'tis was a sick kingdom.

What had once looked like a promising new future, with the sauromancers giving way to the isolationist marshmasters was proving to be anything but.

Trade within its lands had long since vanished, as every foreign merchant that tried to trade within the miasma grew sick soon after entering the mists. The game which the predator lizards relied upon had grown ever scarcer, until starvation and even rumors of cannibalism set in among their ranks.

The mighty sobek, which had arisen from within the marshes to serve as the elite amidst the armies of C'tis, fared little better than the golden-skinned warriors that looked to them as idols. The C'tisians, fearing a potential Sobek rebellion, began keeping a watchful eye on these greatest of their soldiers, and tensions between the Swamp Guard and the Sobek Sacred Guard began to rise.

All of this came to a head when Atun Shar, the mysterious Sobek Sauromancer, accused the Marshmasters of creating the miasma, claiming that they had made their kingdom toxic to all warm blooded creatures in a misguided response to the tragedy of Ermor. The god-snake Python declared this to be heresy, and the mighty serpent swallowed the mage whole. Nakhtun Eshash, fearing the god that he served, called his Sobek warriors to him and fought his way free of the city. When the beloved hero Niklatu fell in the conflict, all hopes for peace were dashed. A blood civil war ensued, with the necromantic powers of the marshmasters eventually proving too much for the predators and their shamans to fend off.

The temple city of C'tis was a ruined shambles of its former glory. The godsnake lay lazy and indolent, feasting on the corpses of the carnivores that had once been its people.

That was when the Sauromancers returned.

They came from the desert tombs, holding lamps of sickly green fire in their hands. The marched to the gates of the temple city, and the miasmal mists dissipated as they approached. In their wake walked the denizens of the tombs they kept - mummified kings, and the sacred snakes and chariots that had been preserved to accompany them into the underworld. Now, like the twiceborn sauromancers that led them, they too had returned from that black river to the land of the living.

They marched through the once bustling streets of their city, the creak of chariots and the rattling of bones marking their return. The great host, living and dead, marched unopposed all the way to the sacred palace, where the bloated snake still lay. The few marshmasters still loyal to the beast rallied their guards and skeletal minions, but these were swiftly annihilated by the superior magic of the sauromancers. Finally, the great brown serpent took notice of the intrusion, blearily raising its massive head.

The legions of the dead parted. Through their midst came a creature of unmistakable divine might. The great beast that had once sat at the entrance to the underworld to consume those whose souls had been denied entrance had left its eternal post, and now it stood amidst the ranks of its new worshipers.

It strode up the steps to where the snake lay, opened its massive maw and, with a single lunge, closed its jaws around the throat of C'tis's failed pretender. The snake thrashed, knocking over pillars and crushing the construction of stone and jewels that had been its throne, until finally the last of its soul was consumed.

The Sauromancers closed ranks. The high priests bowed. A new order was created, built in service to the Devourer and the returned kings that had followed it from the underworld to restore the glory of the Lizard Kingdom.

Post Dominions smut

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>tfw no undead lizard bf

Man was once a realm of magic, ruled by wise hags and defended by knights in gleaming armour. But then of course since women were in charge it all failed.

Now Man is run by men and things will hopefully go better this time around.

>>168073046
Cut his retreat path and spam skellies and you should be ok

>>168094483
Is there actually a canon explanation for why the Sobeks left? Pretty sure they're cold-blooded and poison resistant, but I could be wrong.

>>168096479
There's no canon explanation, but it's heavily implied that they and the predator lizards made their own kingdom. My lore here for their disappearance was that they rebelled because the miasma killed off their food.

>>168096479
Never mind I'm retarded. I just read the LA C'tis information thing and it's all right there.

>>168096580
A new Sobek/Predator-Lizard nation could be an interesting addition to LA but I don't really know what their thing would be.

>>168096687
It'd probably be like MA C'tis, but more sobeks and croc stuff and possibly with blood magic.

>>168096762
I like the idea of nations having different infantry. Sobeks are a cool addition to MA and them or something like them in LA would be nice. But then LA is supposed to be the time of less magic and crazy stuff so their absence feels consistent with everything else that's going on.

R'lyeh's in. Where's our heroic Atlantis?

>>168099812
what's this, another RP?

>>168084093
It's not useless, but it's not very good. Basically, Ulm scales up to the midgame very quickly, and once it goes full vampire it has a very solid endgame as well since it's a deep blood nation with immortal hunters that bring their own chaff. This lets you do all the normal blood stuff (fiends, demon lords, whatever) and with your excellent research, you can often hit the uniques first.

Where Ulm is weak is their expansion and their midgame weakness to battlefield clear. You can get around the second issue with agile assaults, thanks to the fact that vampires, rangers, illuminated ones, and wolves are all stealthy, letting you sneak around with mage supported armies like Pan. The first problem is what those monster builds are trying to solve.

Your pretender there basically doesn't bring anything new until very late in the game. It doesn't even summon counts without first having Cons 4, and while you do want the dowsing rods there anyways, it means that you need to divert your research away from battlemagic (which you'll need to grow out of being a microstate) in order to even start getting counts. Rings can be useful to boost to tarts - but only once you get Blood 7, Cons 6, Ench 8, and Conj 9. By the time you get to that point, odds are good that the game will already have been decided.

tl;dr a rainbow's not a good fit for Ulm, and this particular rainbow doesn't even help you until much too late to matter.

>>168094483
>>168095436
tl;dr
Can we just gang up on that guy?

>>168102062
I liked it

>>168102062
>joining a game with Nick
>ganging up on someone else
Is this the true face of a beta faggot?

Second request for YIAMAG admin to set Marignon to AI. He's gone.

>>168103730
But what if that someone else is Malakal?

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>halfassing my turns, really should have just went AI ages ago
>but I prepared a fun thug I wanna try since turn 20
>it's turn 65 and still no arena

Fucking RNGesus.

>>168104191
Never seen him roleplay

>>168104191
Nick's more dangerous

>1000 gems worth of troops and SCs hit turn limit and route
>Indie event took my route path
Why this

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>>168105508

>>168109760
> I sell boars and boar accessories.

Reminder to not bully - https://www.stopbullying.gov/

do your turns

>>168110625
I'll do you in a minute you don't settle down, fuccboi.

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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LightAle

added one more nation slot to keep it at 15 provinces per player

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=FrogAndToad

Also still recruiting.

Man what the hell are you doing there.That's where my border with yet another nation was supposed to be.let's talk about it

>>168113718
Who's the other nation?
Things seem pretty cramped already.

>>168115095
>Who's the other nation?

should be easy to guess by looking at the map, anyway can you come in steam chat?

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Thread's dying. Everyone post your favourite book.

>>168119616
But what if everyone calls me a pleb?

>>168119616
>having a favourite book
Pleb.
>being a Wolfememer
Turbopleb.
>>168120719
>caring about other people calling you pleb
ULTRAMEGAHYPERPLEB

>>168092573
>>168092626
I haven't seen faggots this cucked by Fortune since the medieval period.

Don't you know you must beat her into submission?
>>168093097
Actually that's what lots of people find most fun about games like this. Not me, but I have a different kind of autism.

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>when you scout TC's awake pretender

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What is the deal with Scouts being recruitable as units from cap sites in the latest summod. Is this a known issue? Does anyone else have this?

>>168121826
i have this too...what happens if i recruit it?

>>168121858
It becomes a commander.

>>168121508
What's the joke?

>>168121826
>>168121938

Turns out this is working as intended. Latest summod itegrated Scoutmod into itself. I guess this improves balance as it allows everyone to have some scouts regardless of RNG.

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>>168120719
As long as it's not 40k or Star Wars EU you should be fine.

>>168120849
>being a Wolfememer
>turbopatrician
ftfy

>>168121826
>>168122191
Damn it, sum1won, if I wanted your scout mod I'd have installed it instead

>>168122241
It's halo fanfic

>>168122137
I dont think there is one. I think its just a fancy picture to express that feeling.

What's the spell to search for astral sites?

>>168122191
>>168121938
i don't like this. it's too cheap and comes up pretty early.

>>168123029
Akashic either record or knowledge, I forget which one is which. It's too expensive, walk an S mage around instead.

>>168123150
That one reveals everything, I'm looking for the one just for astral magic

>>168123206
>>168123150
Found it, arcane probing

>>168123029

Arcane Probing. Evo 3, S1 cast, three pearls. Well worth spamming.

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>>168119616

>>168123072
I think it's pretty good. Scouting is essential and was heavily reliant on RNG, especially in EA and for some nations like C'Tis that lacked recuitable scouts at all.

>>168095436
Good shit. If this is an RP Game, I'd quite like to join.

>when hosting is delayed 24 hours for bats

>>168127384
He asked. As an admin I have to be impartial

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"how do you know that Jesus loves you anon?"

New blog, for AutisticRPGame Agartha.

https://cruxador.wordpress.com/category/aar/autisticrpgame/

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Lemuria I saw that battle and it was great. Grand lemur who will not die needs to be a meme. Also is the game ending, what's going on? Before I script a million mages or whatever i'm meant to be doing this turn.

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>>168128553

That Grand Lemur is a fucking hero, yes. My only source of dissatisfaction is that it took me so long to get Phoenix Pyre online. He could have been fucking shit up a while ago. But ah well. Lemuria research is always gonna be shit.

I've seen the various other players messages, and have sent one out myself to everyone saying "That sounds like a call for Ragha Victory, but I'll give you a chance to respond to this in case you wanted to continue". Dunno if the others watch the thread or not, but if I get agreements from them in here, then I could just end it at that.

But with Arco gone AI, I'm pretty sure Ragha's got it. In future games with thrones.dm, remind me to never include the Level 1s. Those Bullies and Public Executions were obnoxious.

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>6 nations + 1 custom admin nation enter
>Admin nation calls a tournament every Xd6 turns
>First nation to win 3 tournaments claims victory
I need some help with making this fun. For instance, basic settings give an early advantage to nations with things like Fomorian Kings. Would setting research to very easy make up for this? What about starting everyone with every spell and item so research isn't needed? Do things like Fomorian Kings even matter if you can send mobile pretenders into the arena?

>>168129115
This is an AI-tier battle. Riley is a fucking idiot.

>>168129253
Sounds about right considering hes an AI.

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>>168129115

throne of studying gives a +8 inspiring researcher unit, and arco's seeming power was based on Mockery SCs, 200hp regenerating 7-paths (although not the most useful ones) fullslots + extra slots chassis from a throne. It's not balanced in the slightest, and the game got changed a lot by the thrones.

I've got a pretty strong position in the mountains and UW, but i'm unsure if I could beat Ragha alone. And if everyone goes AI, Ragha can eat AI more easily than I can, so it's eh. I've got some decent tech and hardware, though, especially recently. And I did get Arco's deathbasket which was quite substantial. Seems a shame so many people went AI.

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>>168113009
In as tech support

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>>168129216
>Admin nation starts in the circled province
>6 players start around them
I like this set up because it adds a new dimension to the match. For example, one player could win two tournaments but their neighbors could simply destroy them before the next event is called. Someone could alternatively attack the admin nation, kill them off, and suddenly change the win condition into outright conquest. All of that should keep players on their toes and keep things lively.

>>168125227

Snow crash is a weird fucking book. I went into it expecting crazy over the top cyberpunk which I got for the first half, and then received crazy ancient Mesopotamian neuro-linguistic programming.

>>168130908
I thoroughly enjoyed both aspects. Planning on rereading it after my exams.

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>>168119616

desu this is probably the most promising new fantasy series out there. Great worldbuilding, great presentation. I like both books a lot.

>>168131186
Mind telling us a bit more about the series, anon? I'm always on the prowl for new series that I'll never have the time to read.

>>168130908

Always considered Zodiac to be his best novel myself. Diamond Age and Snow Crash were both pretty great though. His more recent stuff is just, uh, excessive. I managed to make it through Cryptonomicon, but the Baroque books were just too dry and filled with superfluous information dumping. Interface was alright though.

>>168131567
I thought the Baroque cycle was fantastic.

Are there things to never do in Dominions ?
Empowering ?
Building roads on forts that are on plain ?

Are any nature sommons actually good?

>>168104805
I'll be able to cast Wish soon enough and then we can set something up. I have close to dick all pearl income though.

>>168132058
>Never empowering
It's useful if you really need some crosspaths, or are 1 level off from building boosters.
>>168132072
Vine ogres and vine men make good chaff, Wolves are great for patrolling.

>>168127832
Were those unfrozen on a throne? I didn't know you could meet them without summoning them.

>>168132346
Nope, just sort of there. The recruitable pops were lizards. Sometimes you get weird indies for no apparent reason.

>>168132058
Empowering levels 1-2 can be cheaper than forging a booster.

You should never wish for Grigori.

>>168132058

Building upgrades on forts is almost always a waste, but it really depends.

>>168132072
wolves for patrolling, horde for stuffing a castle, vine ogres for evo bait.

>>168132058
Some nations can't unlock certain paths without empowerment.

>>168132431
Unlucky. Didnt know lizards appeared in caves either.

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>>168131186

thanks anon, I'll have to give that a shot after I finish reading the malazan series

...and I have to read the joe abercrombie books fuck this backlog

>>168132114
I can send you pearls since I'm going AI after the arena fight anyway. Just say to who.

>>168132565
In big games upgrading your throne forts to increase their defence is worth it 100%. Roads are worth it as well, people are just too stupid to build them in important transitory provinces.

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>>168131419
>>168133684

Well to begin with, the greatest draw is probably the worldbuilding. The story is very in media res, and there's a loooooooot of stuff to figure out as you read through the books. Not as complexly as the Malazan books, but the author has thought out a lot beforehand, and paces the books very well.

The world itself is a fairly rugged place, constantly wracked by enormous storms called Highstorms, that travels from east to west across the continent, that appears regularly. Society, flora and fauna have all adapted to this, so its just regular business for everyone. More interestingly, gemstones left out in the highstorms gets infused by Stormlight, which makes them glow. This is used as the most common form of illumination in the world, but it also powers a sort of magitech called Fabrial that can do a lot of mundane things such as act as heat sources, or means of long-way communication. There are also much more powerful Fabrial from ages past, most notably the Shardplate, pretty much magical power armor that allows the wearer to perform feats of great strength in it, and can survive massive punishment. It's also the only means of protection against the Shardblades, weapons that can cut through stone and sever mens soul.

The story itself centers mostly around a War taking place on the most fucked up terrain imaginable(pic related), following an old noble who is desperately trying to unfuck his nation from the current situation it's in, a once soldier-hero turned slave and a female noble/scholar that explores a lot of the worlds mysteries.

The books are written very well, a lot of attention is paid to detail, such as cultural mores, language, gender roles and other interesting tidbits without going into Robert Jordan levels of braid tugging and skirt smoothing.

If you love worldbuilding, good pacing and character development, this is definitely a series to try out. the audiobooks are also really well acted if you like that

>>168134781
>>168132565

Worth noting out that you only build roads in Forests. They do nothing on plains, but on Forests they will make it only cost 1 map movement point to traverse, as oppose to 2. I wish they'd do shit for Wastes or Swamps but that's Illwinter for you.

I will strategically build early fort constructions on key forest provinces that I know will be in the way of my expansion. Unless you are a MM1 nation, mobility is key.

>>168119616
>tfw poorfag with a huge list of books I want to read but I don't wanna read PDFs on my PC and I'm just waiting to get rich(er) and buy hardcover copies.

Suffering. Where do you guys get your books anyway?

>>168136094
I order mine on amazon. I need more bookshelves

>>168136094
public libraries or stealing from "friends"

>>168129216
can you make victory in the arena under certain conditions not count towards victory overall?

If you could make pretender arena matches not count then it'd add a stalling element to play as well as evening that playing field?

Maybe by making victory tickets instead of a count based on the thing to use the existing "pretenders dont take home arena prizes" condition (I think that's a thing at least; not sure)

>>168135868
I'm not sure why you consider roads to be remotely relevant to expansion considering they take between 9 and 11 turns to even get set up.

>>168136094

Audible subscription here, I drive a lot and listen to a lot of audiobooks. $15 a month for an audiobook a month is a pretty good deal.

Just recently got a Kindle too so I can get to reading more. Its easy to carry with, and can't stand reading books on phones/tablets/computer screens, something about it just makes my eyes hurt. But the E-ink is so gentle for the eyes, just like reading an ordinary book.

>>168136357

As in I expect to expand in that area, so I plan out my fortresses so I can bring troops towards that front in the future without it taking 8 turns.

>>168136441
I like books too much to settle for digital media in any form

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>>168136094

Ordered online, usually amazon but occasionally I'll check a local bookstore

lately I've been torrenting the epubs and reading them on my phone before going to sleep though, it's really handy compared to lugging around multiple books on vacation too

>>168136623

I used to think so too, but after trying the Kindle I really liked it. It's lighter than most books, and because E-ink reflects light rather than absorb it like LCDs, it's literally like looking at a page. If you have a chance to try one out at a bookstore or a tech store, I recommend it.

I still buy the books to put on my shelf, then either re-buy the kindle version, or pirate it for my kindle

>>168136094
Halfprice Books. Used to go pretty frequently with friends and still have stuff stacked up that I haven't read yet.

Have managed to assemble most of Discworld in this manner which is nice.

>>168136989
I have a kindle, I just never use it

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>that feel when great book spine art

>>168137217
>Gibbon
yessssss

>>168137772
It's a library

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>>168136340
>Victory tickets
>6 victory points are required to win
>Pretender victories count as 1
>All other victories count as 2
versus
>Pretender Stall
>3 victories are required to win
>Pretender victories do not count
I can't decide which of these solutions would be more fun.

With "Victory Tickets", players don't need to keep their pretenders in reserve. They can immediately play their trump cards and that encourages some very aggressive possibilities. Stuff like SC pretenders duking it out in the very first tournament would be a real possibility here.

"Pretender stall" is way more defensive. Players would probably keep their pretenders in reserve and wait for the perfect moment to beat down the leader. That leader in return would probably try to bait out pretenders or psyche out the opposition. All kinds of insidious diplomacy would be key to victory here.

Do you think my reads are correct? Do you have a preference between the two?

>>168138637
do make both

>>168138637
maybe make the victory tickets a cursed item (slot doesn't matter) that allows an "ascension" map action for a single victory point that kills the hero.

So then any hero (or even a pretender) can stall the arena after their first victory; but you cant just reuse the one OP hero and pretenders need to be re-called after claiming a ticket (which might give a bit of an unfair advantage to some nations in hindsight). And as an extra caveat if the hero who claimed the ticket leads an army against invaders and dies the ticket might be picked up on the field of battle by some no name mook with no penalties for claiming the point off of it straight away.

And nah no preference, just throwing ideas out there. Really what matters is if you can actually mod this kind of thing in

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>hope you lose that battle so you can go AI
>decisive victory

>>168139235
I kind of like it.

Let's see if I can't whip up a prototype.

Marverni, I think I may have forgotten to respond to you last turn. How do you feel about 40 for 60?

pls

>>168103989
he's got a password on his pretender, fucker

>>168147327
Master password doesn't override?

>>168147327
Does the game have a master password? The admin can give that to the person that wants to set them AI and it'll work.

>>168147570
>>168147585
done

>>168144340
40n for 60e? Or the other way around

>>168147815
Yes, that. Seems a more than fair deal considering how useful they are to your nation.

>>168147941
eh, suits me fine

>>168147982
Sent :^)

Does flying work underwater?

>>168148301
Yes.

White Ermor, I want to see the graphs.

Don't be that guy.

>>168148301
UW basically has a constant storm effect, so storm immune troops can fly UW.

Fucking illfraud, I know.

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>install the arena mod they said

>>168149409
That's what you get for taking misfortune 3 IRL.

>>168149486
Honestly, just set up a small altar to Nyx in your room and make sacrifices from time to time

>>168149486
I'm getting the increasing feeling I have Fortune 1-2 IRL from how RNG keeps favouring me in Dom4

>>168136094
Brazil has a site that gathers a bagazilion useb book stores in a comprehensible and good book buying site. They are usually cheap there and I managed to find some good shit, even a konstantin tsiolkosvky book printed in the soviet union.

>>168069994
>>168068961
>get seduced into joining game
>make pretender for c'tis
>send pretender
>game page doesn't show c'tis, but after a few hours it shows up
>don't worry about it, go to bed
>discover that my pretender was for EA c'tis, and the dude that took the nation wrote a whole backstory for it
welp.

not sure what to play now

How do I use solar brilliance without fucking myself over int he process?

>>168152053
lmao

you commit to it now

>>168151967
I once found a very old print of petit prince in an underground sebo in sao paulo
I am pretty sure it is from on of the firsts prints, it is in french and shit

>>168152261
I'm not even mad about not getting C'tis, and whoever got it's probably going to make the game fun. I just don't really know what I should use instead

>>168152192

Antimagic and/or Affliction Healing

>>168152472
I thought the whole RP thing was regarding the admin putting in EA C'tis for you in an LA game

I wondered why C'tis had a big textblock and assumed what you just said put it in context

>>168148301
>>168148717
Wouldn't it make more sense for Aquatic creatures to be able to fly underwater?

Also remove that weak as "UW Storm" workaround.

Scrub here. How do I sitesearch? I feel like I'm always doing it inefficiently.

With as few mages with as many 1 paths as possible? Or rather 2 at least? Or even wait till you have path 3 available since potential undiscovered sites trigger you autism?

As early as turn 2-3? Or rather once you have some basic research goals to be less vulnerable to an early war?

Assuming you have sitesearched shallow (1-2), do you sitesarch all provinces again with a higher path? Only provinces with higher site chance (thrones, swamps, mountains etc.)? Only those with unusual scales?

When do you use remote sitesearching?

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>>168139235
>>168142461
This item has five components:

>1. Rewarded by the arena
>2. Cursed but it can be picked up
>3. Commander can trigger it
>4. This trigger kills the commander
>5. Trigger makes an announcement
I'm pretty sure I got the first 3 components right. This item should be an arena prize, it (probably) cannot be forged, and it should allow the wielder to trigger a ritual called "Victory Point" at will. I probably have to find a sprite for it but good ol' Draupnir will be a fine placeholder.

Components 4 and 5 are a problem. I don't know how to make that spell kill the commander, I don't know how to prevent the item from being picked up by friendly commanders in the same province, and I don't know how to make it announce itself. I could study Sum1's work on "Blessing of Limne" (unit is created, unit is removed, player gets something) or Magic Enhanced (the new globals such as Wailing Winds everywhere) to figure this out but it seems like a lot of work for a minimum payoff.

So long story short, I'm just going to manually keep track of victory points by tallying death match wins. Sorry!

>>168155110
I think I have some ideas.

>>168151967
fuck, link?

>>168156479
Estante virtual

>>168153145
No, the nre C'tis dude just likes to roleplay I guess

>>168156543
>>168153145
LA C'tis is WAAAY better than EA anyways

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Is there someone on YouTube who plays Dominions 4 so I can watch them play and understand the video game?

I don't want to type "Dominions 4" into the thing and end up watching five hours of some sub par retard playing the game badly and so on

>>168156940
watch a sy lets play

>>168156940
>>168054568

>>168156940
You have to bear in mind that the good ones are old and things have changed in the game since. Try Maerlande.

>>168157229
>>168157232
>>168157313
Thanks lads

My bad I only skimmed through the OP looking for YouTube links instead of reading it thoroughly

>>168156940
Only subpar retards would use YouTube for something like this anyway.

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>>168154450
Please respond.

>>168157415
Yeah I upload all my videos to Dailymotion

>>168157706
>videos
Missing the point.

>>168157648
no

>>168154450
sitesearch all your provinces with level 1 to 2 in the paths most easily accessed by your nation by the end with year 2, and at least your capring with level 3 in your most important path

>>168154450
>>168157648

Use your highest level mages on every province and remote spells for magic you dont have in big numbers. After thatuse the very expensive multisite searchers on thrones with no sites found otherwise or on provinces you know have a site but you havent found it.

>>168157648
>Literally using magic
L O L

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All you had to do was leave my fucking dog alone, Mari.

>>168160557
jesus.

>>168160557
You literally just killed 19 of theirs.

>White Ermor does turn

>Still no graphs at all

So, I guess it'll be time for even more fake news?

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>write a wall of text
>realize I send it to everyone
>rewrite again completely
>accidentally hit cancel

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>>168160846
Wolves =/= dogs.

And that one was a present from my dead wife.

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>>168161070
They're basically the same thing

>>168086059
>Rise up this mornin'
>Smiled with the risin' sun
>Three little birds
>Pitch by my doorstep
>Singin' sweet songs
>Of melodies pure and true

what was the bane lord thug kit to deal with electrical birds throne again?

>>168161070
kek

>>168162093
no idea, but i'd run brand, VS, storm spool

How do you play Kalisa? I know they got pretty much the same troops as Lanka, but with Lanka you basically only hire the archers and use skeletons and demons for everything else.

>>168162462
dom1 imprisoned crone with -3 on all scales

>>168162572
Well that certainly sounds innovative.

>>168160065
t. grib

yo guys - pretender shuffle

everyone makes pretenders for the other nations. You try to make them as bad as possible while still using up as many of the design points as you can (ie - you can't afford to add any magic paths, dom, or scales)

>>168163071
Ban Ermor and Asspoodle and it could be fun.

>>168163148
or just make it EA

>>168163071
I seen someone do this before where they made mod nations using the worst vanilla units and commanders they could and those nations got randomly assigned to people.

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>>168163071
wow, that was hard

>>168163408
>A10
Somehow I knew that was gonna happen. Hands down the worst bless.

>>168163408
This would lose to an AI

>>168163610
Vanheim still has strong troops, but without any bless and with shit scales all you can hope for is to transform that fuck into something mobile and cast infinite wrathful skies + shimmering fields combos. Good luck with that with misfortune 3 though.

>>168163408
>4 dom
enjoy having the player LUCKY enough to receive this POWERFUL pretender win by domkilling all the 1 dom tribless builds

>>168163875
I see watcha getting at, chief. Let me reconsider.

>>168164036
this is EA ermor, btw

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>>168164036
>F9
TOO FUCKING GOOD.

BEHOLD!

>>168164036
If Ermor can survive the first two years their equites are going to be vicious.

>>168164257
>awake
It's like you want them to win with their incredibly research advantage

What's an F bless going to do when you can recruit only one sacred per turn?

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Behold.

I have outdone even myself

>>168164357
Give them a win in the arena when they send a sacred thug, I guess.

>>168164586
yeah let me thug my pontifex real quick and hope no one sends anything with a lance

>>168164581
>>168162462
use something like pic related

>>168164581
This could actually be a decent bless for a nation with sacred archers, although the 1dom is still a kick in the nuts.

>>168164769
That's why it's for Heat 3 niefelheim

>>168164734
Prophetize a legatus.

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behold

>>168164998
as it seems
prophets will kick ass in the game

>>168165069
Looks fine to me.

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>>168155709
>"Victory Ticket" causes an affliction
>"Victory Ticket" has a spell called "Victory Point"
>"Victory Point" spawns an invisible monster like with Fish Amulets
>Invisible monster causes an assassination event
>Assassin targets commander with affliction
>Invisible monster also causes a global event
>Invisible monster is removed
Something like that, Sum1?

As an alternate, it would be kind of funny if the event was #strikeunits 999.

>>168165069
that is a regular yomi build

>>168165069
is that supposed to be bad?

So since this is obviously going to actually happen, how about everyone submits a god, and then the admin changes all the e-mails turn 1

>>168165441
gimme ea ulm

>>168165152
>>168165290
>>168165305
i will admit i have absolutely no idea what i am doing

>>168165675
if you're submitting an EA ulm pretender, odds are that someone else will get it

>>168165768
dont we get to chose the nation?
we send in placeholder gods and can the admin overwrite them?
or do we believe in each other?

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R8

>>168166034
the idea would be that you submit the worst pretender that you can, then the admin shuffles who is playing which one

>>168166074
>awake expander
>DOUBLE the starting dom
abysia can expand well with its starting army too. The player that gets this will be able to grow much better than most anyone else

>>168166109
I thought I would chose a nation and somebody would make my god

but okay, I will see how this unfolds

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>>168166247
How about this then?

>>168166074
>Literally a lion AND an ant
How the fuck is anyone supposed to fight against that?

>>168166586
Magic duel?

>>168166695
Have you ever duelled, magic or otherwise, a fucking ant? Didn't think so, idiot.

>>168166247
While we're on the subject, how do you do first year expansion with monsters that aren't dragons? Between indy heavy cavalry and barbarians I seem to just get my earth snek or whatever killed in his first battle.

>>168166565
>b3
best bloodhunter abysia will get

>>168166963
Malphas is better and also super common.

>>168166950
Abysia can just blind expand into practically anything. Other than that I normally try to aim for the tribes and shit first.

>>168166950
Hot take: don't attack into heavy cav and barbs with awake expanders

>>168164769
I still want to try the F9A9 MA Ulm strat in a summod game and spam Bows of War.

>>168167346
WTH is a "malpha"?

>>168167731
EA Abysian hero who is a demon in disguise as a warlock.

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>>168166586

>>168168570
What's this from?

>>168169668

boku no episode 3

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>>168152053
>not sure what to play now
i guess megumin would want you to play abysia

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>>168172767
Megumin would want him to play the nation capable of best showcasing the power of EXPLOSION

Bloodbysia need not apply

>>168172936
>implying explosion isn't high level fire spells

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>>168172936
>>168173105
hellpower bombs tho

>>168173105
That'd be Heat Ragha then. They have more consistent big F mage access

I'm pretty sure that Gifts from Heaven is a pretty good pick

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also, two slots left

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LightAle

join the fun