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>1.10 patch notes:
http://steamcommunity.com/games/374320/announcements/detail/261608645322016043

>Ringed City DLC stuff
Announcement trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igomOLwqsV0
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79
Gameplay footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Ke647-xsU
Vaati's notes, trimmed (MAJOR SPOILERS, read with a grain of salt): http://pastebin.com/Y7MTapKN

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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>>167848726
>lucy
Tripfags don't get to make threads.
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First for /OURGUY/
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Hey Lucy I hope you're having a good day today.
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>>167848945
Fugg, only 12 seconds
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>>167848726
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>>167848726
Who are the "ashen prisoners" the Firekeeper mentions when she asks you to link the flame after placing all the lords?
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>>167848996
Is 2bat in a poison arena?
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>>167849120
No.
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>>167849120
No, but their attacks cause toxic.
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>>167849120
No, I think Bat #2 shoots poison.
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>>167849183
Both bats shoot poison. One hangs back when you're trying to melee the other, though.
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>>167849178
>>167849183
Why?
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>older son is a fuckup who failed to finish off the strongest demon
>younger son is a weak pussy who refuses to link the Flame
>both of them are also homosexuals
>queen disappeared somewhere
Oceiros had a hard life.
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>>167847993
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/144412
Use slightly lighter armor than what I put on

If you actually use doubleflames, keep the parting in your right hand instead
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>>167849319
Because a 3-phase boss is enough bullshit already, no need to further complicate things.
Look at his fucking moveset in demon prince form, i bet even SL120 faggots are going to have hard time killing the thing.
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>>167849331
Every king in Souls had a hard life. Except maybe Allant, but he was the one causing all the problems then.
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When a hosts disconnects during an invasion, it should remove their ember and halve their current souls.

And also grant an ember or convenant item to the invader.
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>>167849453
It's impossible to tell when a host intentionally disconnects or if their internet is just shit.
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>>167849517
This is intentional.
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>>167849037
I don't get it. That pic clearly shows the game was beaten, and that profile has since gotten the BB plat.

What point is it trying to make?
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>>167849338
If I use the parting pyromancy flame I guess I wouldn't need Warmth at all right? I'm playing this character doing coop with my friends
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>>167849560
Which was more embarrassing for you, dropping out of college or saying you couldn't midroll through WoG spam?
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>>167849453
>Playing DS3
>Invaded by xXDongLord420Xx
>Disconnected from server and returned to title menu for the 4th time that session
>Lose my ember because some autist was in my world when the game decided to shit itself
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>>167849584
Warmth will still be worthwhile but youve got the stats for great heal anyway, just grab a crystal chime or something that scales with both stats

The parting flame weaponart isnt something I would bank on, even just stowing the weapon resets the kill counter
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>>167849670
>dropping out of college
>embarrassing

once you realize it's the greatest scam in the modern world it's probably the best decision you'll ever make
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>>167849746
This is how it should be.

You should not be rewarded for having regular network instability.
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>>167849560
Don't try to play coy, lucy. You spent all that time trying to give people "advice" for chalice dungeons when you'd never even made a single one, and then someone posted your profile and made a laughingstock out of you.

You finished the game out of shame, and so you could continue to pretend to be good at something without needing to put the effort into it. That's it.
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>>167848996
>that video was removed from yt
big lawsuit incoming kek
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>>167849787
>once you realize it's the greatest scam in the modern world
Only in USA, and that's only because they make a business of it. In countries with state-supported higher education, colleges are held to real standards and don't cost all the money you'll make in a lifetime. Most of them also don't let you in after 20, though.
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>>167849756
I see, well, for the moment the DLC will have to wait since my friends don't own the season pass, and going through the DLC with my NG+2 character after months without playing it's a bit difficult atm.
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>>167849670
The latter.

College is scam that will ban you for wrongthink.
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>>167849928

Who uploaded it?
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>>167848770
>French
So, using kunais instead of throwing knives, froggy?
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>>167849331
Every king in the Souls series is sad.
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>>167849928
Has anyone a full video?
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>>167849881
that anti-lucy post was dated may 2015 and BB was platted on that account in november of 2015, after the expansion was released

desecrated flame also has almost 600 hours into bloodborne

look anon, lucifer is an almighty obnoxious faggot but saying he's ignorant of the basic mechanics of the game is pretty retarded

>>167850001
and even then, they're still inferior to a lower-prestige tradeschool
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>>167849874
>You should not be rewarded for having regular network instability.

Who said anything about network instability? I get returned to the title screen all the time without actually losing my connection. This doesn't happen in other games, only DS3.

At that, who said anything about rewards? You don't get an extra ember for disconnecting.
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>>167849881
No, I didn't. I even professed to hating the things. It was only after the patches that I started to enjoy them. Even now, I don't give out advice in regards to non-physical chalice gems.

Except no one cared. Meme Machine shit posting and same-fagging without a trip doesn't make me a laughing stock. I only finished the game and got the plat when Sony announce the free theme for anyone that got the plat by a certain date.

The bit about DaS1 is also funny because everyone that matters already knows I played DaS1 on 360.
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>>167849421
But I thought that gaijin rike the Friede fight???
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>>167849928
Compared to leaked gameplay footage posted all over 4chan weeks prior to game releases this one is nothing.
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>>167850118
I get CTDs since last patch
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>>167850042
http://progressbar.com.au/2017/02/dark-souls-iii-the-ringed-city-preview/
Originally linked in this article. The guy posted in on reddit too.
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>>167850118
you get rewarded by your world being cleared of invaders
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>>167850132
I liked it and Prince looks awesome as well.
It's just that battle really doesn't need poisonous floor to be challenging as fuck already.
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>>167850048
I don't
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>>167849006
>we will never have a souls character creator that allows us to make faces as pretty as hers

fuck desert sorceress update player character meshes, memeazaki!!!!
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>>167850194
someone isn't getting invited back.
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>>167850109
>six months after release
>sure as shit didn't have 600 hours then
He played the game once, then spent all the rest of the time being an obnoxious, condescending "expert" giving people advice that was consistently wrong. It's what he's done for every game for years so far. His excuse then was the same excuse every time too, that he actually has a secret other account where he did everything already but you don't get to see it.

keep your trip on, asshole. I have you filtered for a reason
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>>167850128
>implying your advice is ever not wrong

Wait, you still think all the people who hate you are just one guy samefagging?
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>>167848996
out of all the shit this retard could have shown he didn't take any footage of the new sets?
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>>167850323
Oh, they used the right name in the third game. Good to know.

>>167850460
Wow, an attention whoring tripfag is also retarded. What are the odds?
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>>167850479
To be fair, the majority of people care more about the boss than the armor sets or weapons.

Weird, I know.
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>>167850061
At the very least, every single one of them fucked up and in someway made the world a worst place for the people in it. If you are a king, or hold a substantial level or power or influence in these games, you did something really bad.

Except Ivory King. He actually did a good job for the most part and went down swinging, even managed to romance respective Child of Dark when her sisters sought ruin for their chosen kings.
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>>167850479
He couldn't beat the 2bats so it's understandable he didn't reach new armors.
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I'm really bad at souls and I spend more time arguing about it on /dsg/ than playing it can I be a tripfag too?
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>host runs into Aldrich fight
>immediately dies
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>>167850460
Of course they are. All the posts that say God-King Lucifer were made by the same person, so why wouldn't all the posts that say Anonymous by made by the same person?
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>>167850479
i'm actually happy if gear won't get spoiled
amygdalan arm was an awesome surprise in TOH
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>>167850195
That's just a return to the status quo. Are you making the argument that the game not taking something from you is equivalent to rewarding you? The only way that stance would make sense would be if you were to assume that the host would lose, and I could just as easily assume that the host would win (since invasionfags are literally always bitching about being at a disadvantage) and say that the invader is being rewarded by not having his souls dropped wherever he was when the disconnect happened.
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>>167850632
Use Great Grey Wolf Sif's old tripcode, he hasn't been here since DaS1.

!dire
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>>167850358
i am literally not lucifer you paranoid faggot
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>>167850720
>le mental gymnastics

just shut the fuck up and accept the fact that the invader being punished for the host having shit internet OR disconnecting is worse than the host being punished for the same reason
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>>167850521
It was already named right though
I dunno in DaS2, played only a few hours
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>>167850773
>!

I actually don't know how trips work, I just remember the code was "dire".
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>>167850650
>4chan is just one person
I knew it
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>>167850873
Weird, I remember one of the Souls game naming them kunai. And I remember cringing at them.
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>>167851059
Might've been Demon's Souls.
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>>167850975
he cant keep getting away with it!
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>>167850869
>mental gymnastics

This from the guy who went from "the host is being rewarded" to "the invader is being punished." The invader doesn't lose shit but time, which the host has also lost.

Thank goodness that you will never have any appreciable influence over any game ever.
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>>167851089
I never played Demon Souls. Must have been Dark Souls 2, but why only this one?
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>>167851089
I checked on a french wiki, names are right. It might've been DaS2 then

>>167851240
Who is this 4chan ?
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>>167848726
>shitty tripfag fails to link to the previous thread
>>167822813
>>167822813
>>167822813
Never make threads again if you're too fucking stupid to know how to.
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>>167850869
This problem shouldn't have anything to do with punishment or reward, they just need to make better netcode. Like every other Japanese dev they assume the average user lives in Tokyo where they're a mile away from the other user and have fibre internet.
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>>167851059
>>167851330
Checked, indeed it's called kunai in DaS2
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>>167848726
>double thread
Fuck off, scum.
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>tfw host is not a very good host but the invader is a nice homicidal maniac
>you let the invader murder him
bad at my job
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>>167851548
Pretty weird that DaS2 was the only one to call them kunai.

I need to reinstall it and see if they're different.
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>>167851812
>Pretty weird that DaS2 was the only one to call them kunai.

What, throwing knives?
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Will we get a DS1 remake? I heard it might be happening.
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>>167851548
HA!
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>>167851898
It would be nice to co-op more stability. But I doubt it unless they just quickly do it with the DS3 engine and slap on some new textures to turn a profit.

I highly doubt it though.
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>>167851893
>http://darksouls2-fr.wiki.fextralife.com/Projectiles
>Kunaï

Yes.
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bosses no longer drop bonfires; listed bonfires have been removed unless specified

cemetary of ash
-iudex gundyr
-champion gundyr

high wall of lothric
-high wall of lothric
-vordt of the boreal valley
-dancer of the boreal valley
-oceiros the consumed king

undead settlement
-undead settlement
-pit of hollows

road of sacrifices
-road of sacrifices
-crucifixion woods
-crystal sage
-farron keep
-keep ruins
-farron keep perimeter
-abyss watchers

cathedral of the deep
-cathedral of the deep
-deacons of the deep

catacombs of carthus
-high lord wolnir
-old king's antechamber
-demon ruins
-old demon king

irithyll of the boreal valley
-all bonfires except church of yorshka, water reserve, and prison tower. there is now an invisible staircase that connects the invisible walkway to the prison tower.

irithyll dungeon
-yhorm the giant

lothric castle
-dragon barracks
-dragonslayer armour
-twin princes

adapatability
-adaptability
-dragon-kin mausoleum; ancient wyvern no longer ports you straight here after the fight, and the player must navigate back up to this bonfire location manually afterwards. in return, NPCs inside ancient wyvern boss room killed during the fight will no longer respawn once the boss has been plunged and have a good chance to drop titanite chunks.
-nameless king

kiln of the first flame
-flameless shrine

painted world of ariandel
-rope bridge cave
-sister friede
-snowy mountain pass
-champion's gravetender
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>>167851812
DS3 calls Lloyd's Talismans "Undead Hunter Charms" or something despite the other games calling them Lloyd's Talismans.

I assume it has to do with translator team choices.
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>>167852017
>adaptability
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>>167852017
character limit reached, editing this part:

>irithyll of the boreal valley
>-all bonfires except church of yorshka, water reserve, and prison tower. there is now an invisible staircase that connects the invisible walkway to the prison tower.

in addition, there is now a lever next to the prison tower bonfire that will raise and lower the spinning elevator

>>167852092
>ADP
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>>167850128
>everyone that matters already knows
>literal who tripfag from another general implying others are no names

epic bait, remember sage reply to tripfags
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>>167852081
In DS3, it makes sense : the lore says that everyone but the Way of the White forgot about Lloyd.

The kunai aren't that different from throwing knives, and are named throwing knives in the English translation. The French translation just name them kunais.
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reminder to treat lucifer as a normal human being and respectfully, silently disagree with him when he posts some dumb shit

he will be unable to handle the lack of bantz and (you)s and will instead lurk permanently
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>>167852253
Where does it say everyone forgot about Lloyd? The item description literally mentions LLoyd so I don't see the reason to change the item name.
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>>167852324
In the item description in DaS3.
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>>167849331
>high priestess, your pillar of power, is a londor insider agent
>your grand scholar, your other pillar, is a megalomaniac tree
J U S T
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What's the biggest and funnest weapon to use in 3? It's probably going to be a greathammer that I'm looking for. Something like the Demon Greathammer from 1.
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anyone know the stat distribution of the SL125 premades at FromCon?
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>>167852647
>high priestess, your pillar of power

I'd think that would be the knight.
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>>167852518
>there are people still on 4chan who don't immediately filter all tripfags
for what purpose
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>>167852751
fume ultra greatsword or morne's greathammer
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Why can't we keep /dsg/ a bully free zone?
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>>167852892
bfs are no longer welcome
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>>167852882
>Morne's
Oh yeah, that does sound pretty satisfying, but isn't that the one that does WoG, meaning I'd need to be a faith build? I was hoping for something pure STR.
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>>167852892
because bullying is fun
but not in a rude way
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>>167852892
because u suck hollowed cock
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>>167852892
because we're not your friends
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>>167852961
believe me anon, this is definitely a pure strength build
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>>167852751
Giant Club if you prefer wide R2s.
Spiked mace if you want to bleed people. The WA is no longer a guaranteed truecombo you can chain from a single R1, but it's still good.
Morne's Greathammer for a discount Bloodletter experience. Note: requires around 50 points of stats to wield at minimum requirements.
Vordt's Hammer + Snap Freeze for twinking.
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>>167853048
i'm your friend
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>>167853054
>pure strength
>30 FTH
you wot

>>167853056
Spiked Mace is the one the Evangelists use right? How is it in general? Also I'm surprised to see Vordt's recommended, I kinda assumed everything related to frost was considered shit?
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>>167852324
http://darksouls.wikia.com/wiki/Undead_Hunter_Charm
>Allfather Lloyd is long forgotten by the Way of White

http://darksouls.wikia.com/wiki/Lloyd's_Shield_Ring
>Much time has passed since the worship of Lloyd was common in the Way of White. The clerics of Carim had always strongly asserted that Lloyd was a derivative fraud, and that the Allfather title was self-proclaimed.
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>>167851812
>>167851330

DeS and DaS 2 had "kunai"
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>>167852757
Ask Vaati or one of the other e-celebs who were invied.
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>>167853220
vordts is shit he is memeing you
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>>167852751
Smough's Hammer is pretty fun and does hella damage, but the 2H R2 is awful
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>>167848996
Lorian killed this thing?
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>>167850612
Gwyn isn't so bad, old king was okay, and ivory king was an actual good guy
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>>167853306
I never did like Smug's aesthetics. It's so thin with a huge end and I just don't dig it. I basically want to be carrying a huge mass of bullshit, aesthetically. Like Smelter Hammer in DAS2. I'll give all these suggestions a try though.
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>>167853331
Obviously he couldn't finish the job
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>>167853220
>>167853220
it's pure strength with a very minor faith investment

use the darkmoon meme ring if you want to cast a spell or two. I HIGHLY recommend vow of silence, since it's bretty gud at fugging casters in their buttholes

anyone who tells you that bort's GH is shit is themselves a shitter. it's not a dueling weapon, but an invasion weapon intended for long, drawn-out fights with opponents that heal. This lets the fight last long enough for the frostbite effect to occur.

50 str 1h bort's GM is an 800 damage 1H into 1HJA truecombo and if frostbite procs on the proceeding 1HrR1 afterwards, it's going to hit for up to 1300 damage
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So question about the Abyss Watchers. They are said to be Lord of Cinder, e.g. someone who has linked the flame before.

How come THEY (plural) can be Lord of Cinder (singular). Do they come in droves and burn together as legions? Did one member of the legion linked the flame with help of others? If so why are the others got resurrected too? How does these things fucking work
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>>167853413
>Gwyn
>artificially extended the Age of Gods past its intended lifespan in order to keep the gods in power, and corralled Undead to keep sacrificing themselves for it, preventing the Age of Man from coming
>by Linking the Fire, he fucked over everybody who wasn't a god

>Old Iron King
>hunted Undead and tortured them for sport
>went mad with power and built a castle out of iron in a sea of fucking lava
>forged the Smelter Demon out of hubris, and was struck down by it

Arguably even the Sunken King, who built a shrine around a sleeping dragon to worship it and keep it from waking up, was better. The one who fucked up there was Yorgh and his ass posse of dragon fags.
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>>167853054
>not going cleric for Sacred Oath
>leveling vit with a greathammer
I respectfully disagree with your choices, but you do you.
>>167853220
>Spiked Mace is the one the Evangelists use right? How is it in general?
Yeah that's the one. It used to have a pretty much guaranteed 1hitKO combo in the past when you could combo R1 into a WA. Now it's just okay. You can still buff it with Carthus Rouge and bleed people relatively easily, although a more experienced opponent might evade your hits more consistently and thus avoid the bleed procs.
>I kinda assumed everything related to frost was considered shit?
Frostbite effects are stronger and more noticeable on lower levels. You probably won't frostbite people a lot with just using that thing, but it's going to be nigh instant if you support it with Snap Freeze spell, which has outstanding frost buildup on its own. Frostbite effects will generally give you an edge in 2v1s: they get less stamina regen, which synergizes well with your weapon because of massive stamina consumption, allowing you to catch up. It also lowers their defences, meaning your trading hits will be even more beneficial. Finally, it's just a solid chunk of damage at lower levels.
Also don't let anyone meme you into thinking Perseverance on greathammers is bad, it's an insta-win button against other greatweapons.
>>167853294
Obviously at higher levels it falls off, but R1-R1-Snap Freeze memes are pretty solid, you should try it some time.
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>>167854053
sacred oath is terrible, just use SSS

morne's GH is tied for the third heaviest weapon in the game, smartass
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>>167854049
Gwyns really isn't that bad, and I'm not talking about the old iron king, he's an asshole
Old king dorion(sp?)
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It kind of seems like all of the health regen gear in DS3 is found once you don't really have a use for it. I've put Anri's ss and the ethereal oak shield and the sun princess ring on a low level character and they made all the difference in the world but passive HP regen gear starts to become negligible with a quickness. The RotEE and Aldrich's ruby stay relevant longer but rely on interacting with enemies and you don't get them until Irithyll. Also, if you're embered at 20 VIG then a RotEE/AR backstab that kills an enemy is only giving you back about 10% of your health, which isn't all that great for 2 ring slots.
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Why would DaS2 servers might be down?
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>>167854003
I think they all linked it together at once. I'm more curious about Aldrich, since they say he was forced to Link the Fire.

How does that work? Did they trick him into doing it, or did they physically push him onto it?
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>>167854003
http://darksouls.wikia.com/wiki/Soul_of_the_Blood_of_the_Wolf
Basically, by consuming wolf's blood, their souls became linked as one. They possess a single great soul spread across multiple bodies.
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>>167853054
>61.9%

why?
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>>167854204
What if they removed soul memory calculation in multiplayer and just went back to DaS1 summon ranges?

>>167854228
alva gear is a placeholder; you'll want to minmax havel's/smoughs pieces to hit poise breakpoints and you will need all the equip % you can get
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>>167854224
>Basically, by consuming wolf's blood, their souls became linked as one
That's not even how souls supposed to work. Miyazaki be hacking cough all day
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>>167854437
The Wolf's Blood is the essence of the Wolf's Soul

Drinking Wolf's Blood grants you part of the power of that soul

This isn't a difficult concept to grasp, you hypershitter
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For a pure FAI build, how is Saint's Bident vs Raw ASS? Is Raw ASS + Lightning Blade basically the only thing worth using?
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>>167854593
Use the Candlestick.
You know you want it.
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>>167854718
this

best weapon art
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I'm picking this game back up in preparation for the final DLC.

Give me your best meme builds, so long as they function somewhat I'll take it.
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>>167854593
>faith
>das3

you have one weapon
and that is raw dragonslayer axe with lightningblade buff
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>>167854593
bident becomes usable, but only as a sidearm for its insane reach. Use it to pick off foes low on health or to poke at a safe distance

Raw Dragonslayer Axe + Ligthning blade is the way to go for damage, but if you have the stats for it, lothric knight GS is also pretty good with lightning buff
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>>167854776
Pontiff Knight Sabre/Scythe.
Pontiff Knight set.
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>>167854776
Whips only
Soldering Iron is also allowed
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>>167854776
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>>167853331
it ran away and was hiding all this time
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Could someone explain to me how is he doing so much damage?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQU9yCj9r9w
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>>167854437
They are pack.
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So how good is the new patch?
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Does selling a ring affect the ring achievement?

Because I've sold all the regular and +1 rings when I got +2 version.
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http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1486508985868.webm

>yfw this is the Deep
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>>167854593
>>167854593
On my 60 fai character I'm using:

an uninfused Drakeblood Greatsword I only gain 10 AR from infusing it with raw.
Raw Whip +10
Rose of Ariandel +5
Raw Dragonslayer's Axe +10
Lightning Longsword +10
Lightning Red-Hilted Halberd +10
Lightning Partizan +10
Raw Astora Sword +10
Knight's Crossbow +10
Follower Saber +10 Can't decide between raw and lightning
Lothric's Holy Sword +5
Wolnir's Holy Sword +5


For misc. items I'm using: Canvas Talisman +10, Sunlight Talisman +10, Priest's Talisman +10, White Hair Talisman +10, Crystal Chime +10, Izalith Staff +10, Archdeacon's Staff +9, Sunless Talisman +9, Caitha's Chime +9 Yorshka's Chime +9, Pyromancer's Flame +10, Parting Pyromancer's Flame +10, Ethereal Oak Shield +4, Silver Knight Shield +5, Saint-Tree Bellvine +9, Handmaiden's Dagger +10, Follower's Torch +10, and every single infusable dagger in the game infused with a Blessed gem at +10 including the Parrying Dagger.

I pretty much use the Canvas Talisman, Lightning Longsword, Raw Dragonslayer's Axe and blessed caestus exclusively. When I want to meme it up, or need the extra damage, I switch to the DBGS and buff it with Darkmoon Blade. With that setup and both magic and lightning clutch rings, it reaches 900 AR when bodybuffed as well.

I would also use the Lothric Knight UGS since it's the most powerful weapon in the game when buffed with Lightning Blade, but its requirements are too high for this build, unfortunately.

>>167855435
Carthus Beacon, Hypermode using the Morion's Blade and Red Tearstone Ring, and Pontiff's Right Eye.

Every time he attacks twice, he gets two stacking 15% damage buffs. The estoc is the most stamina-efficient weapon in the game relative to attack speed and AR.
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Is pvp still alive in Dark Souls 1?
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>>167854776
Dragon form
red tearstone + morian blade offhand
Tears of denial + sunlight straightsword buff
Mournes greathammer

Pretend you're still playing DaS2 and 1-shot everything with your WoG weaponart

dont forget your seduko katana for lowering health
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>>167855435
Against King of the Storm, or Nameless King?

He had Deep Protection on, which boosts damage and stamina recovery. He's also using an Estoc, so very likely a Leo ring for counter-hits.
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>>167855687
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>>167853054
>6 ATT for a WA that costs 50 FP

It's shit. If you have no ATT, use great club or spiked mace
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Is there any explanation other than VIDEOGAMES about undead enemies that permadeath? Shouldn't they also respawn and be locked in endless combat with the player character?

For example the abyss watchers were locked in endless combat amongst themselves and they keep reviving because they're undead. One schmuck player character come over and now the abyss watchers stopped reviving

Same deal with say Oscar in DS1. He's hollowed out by the time we fight him. Who are we to say that hollows don't respawn? Shouldn't a hollowed out version of Oscar just respawn in his respective bonfire and mindlessly attack us again?
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>>167855694
>Carthus Beacon
>when he clearly only has Deep Protection and Lightning Blade attuned
>Morion's Blade and Red Tearstone Ring
>when he's clearly at full HP the entire time
Are you responding to the wrong post, brah?
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>>167855952
You don't use the hammer because of it's gimmick, you use it because it's the largest, longest GM in the game.

>>167855989
I didn't even click on the video. I know it's a Ray Dhimitri video and he's probably instagibbing either Nameless King, Soul of Cinder, or Friede at a high NG+
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anyone want to help me kill aldritch??
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>>167856236
>that build
What an underleveled mess
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>>167855983
When you killed the abyss watchers, you took their soul and placed it in your inventory, so they are not able to rise again. Also, the abyss watchers arnt technically human, so they don't hollow like them. As for Oscar, I always assumed he just went hollow after you kill him and is wandering around as a husk

Of course, this is all just speculation
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>>167856347
I know, haven't reset it with Rosaria yet, I want to see what weapons I want to end up using
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>>167856132
>longest

Nope. There's around 4 small GH and then the rest is tied, Morne shares the range with a few, including great club, vordt, gargoyle and dragon tooth. If you aren't using Morne for the WA, you're always better off with another GH.
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>>167856236
Hang on let me warm up my Nissan.
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>>167856531
Clearly on PC you dickfuck
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>>167856531
OK I'm gonna sunbro for a little while
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>>167856513
you can't just relegate every weapon in the game to its singular unique aspect

you use morne's for its greathammerness AND to its WA, stop playing this game with such narrowmindedness.
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Was there a banwave with the new patch?
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>>167855609
someone answer my question.

Do I have to have the rings in my possession at once, or can I sell obsolete ones?
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Just finished das2 again, and damn even with all flaws I still had more fun than in das3. Instant estus really is cancer
Normal ending was surpisingly better made than any das3 endings too
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>>167856814
Yes.
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>>167856814
maybe
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>>167856824
The DaS2 2 "normal ending" is the worst in the entire series.
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>>167856824
Replaying ds2 too and enjoying it too, but hey let's not be pushy here.
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>>167856860
Fuck the achievements then.
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>>167848996
Holy shit I actually guessed his name correctly. Though I thought it would be Old demon prince.
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>>167857032
whiny pissbaby detected

everyone point and laugh at him, he doesn't know what the word "all" means LMFAO
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>>167856717
But that's all it has got. There are GH that beat Morne in every category.

For instance, dragon tooth has the same lenght as Morne does, but gets more AR for less investment and has a neat passive. This means it is a straight upgrade in every way to Morne's. Except for the WA.
If you make a 6 ATT build with morne, you're ignoring the only thing it has over otherwise better greathammers, as well as ignoring the spells you could get with that faith. There are ways you can try to make a morne build, but one that ignores the only good thing it has by having only 1 cast per blue estus is awful.
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>war pick r1 spamming shitter twink invades against my new SL 28 character
>get multiple farrons on top of it
>just running circles around all of them, dodging everything even with my shit low endurance
>he spams clap gesture hehe xD fight me 3 v 1
>finally run through boss door and use a bone, wasting their time

feels good to outplay twinks, If you can't kill a low SL nontwink with multiple invaders + me running through all the mobs you deserve to get fog door kicked out
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>>167857102
And you don't know what the word "Acquire" means.

It doesn't say "have all the rings" or "Own all the rings"
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>Final piece of DLC for the entire series
>Perfect moment to tie all loose ends and introduce lore heavy bosses
>lmao, here u go, u get to fight a fire demon bat instead xD

What the fuck From.
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>>167857171
so use a farron ring and get two casts per estus, and if spells are REALLY necesarry, you can use a darkmeme ring.

there isn't a perfect morne's build, that is a PURE strength build capable of wielding it, while also using other weapons besides morne's. It's also a decent paladin tank build

If you want something that can spellfag a little harder then sure, you'd want to stick to cleric or knight

>>167857259
"Acquire" doesn't mean "throw away"

it also doesn't specificy that you CANT throw it away so instead of being a lazy nigger, why don't you just store your obsolete rings and go collect all of them anyway and find out yourself?
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>>167857002
How so? Cycle is eternal, there nothing you can do, here is your throne decide is it worth linking fire for yourself! DaS3 linking fire should have melancholy like this
And nothing is worse than das 3 end of fire ending, it's just retarded in every possible way with cheap waifu pandering for otaku on top of that. Betrayal and taking embers ending at least was thematically fitting
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>>167857259
no you are just a literal retard

try again
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>>167857259
You don't need to have them on you for the achievement, just need to loot each at least once. If your class starts with a ring you need to drop it on the floor and loot again for it to count.
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>>167856824
Only mustards prefer DaS2 and only because it pandered to them. You will notice they never praise it fit its features. They only praise it because it runs well on pc, or they just shit on the other games instead.

>what did you like about DaS2?
>DaS3 has shitty estus.
Etc.
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>>167857393
Finally a non-retarded person.
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>>167857437
>the irony of looking for obscure knowledge on a cambodian basketweaving image forum

like pottery
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>>167857342
A PURE strength build is better off using PURE strength weapons instead of wasting stats.
30 FTH is no small investment, for that price, I could make a way better pure strength build that also stacks enough poise to beat GS and maybe even bigger weapons, something impossible with Morne at low SLs.
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I'm trying a faith build at sl 44. How the fuck do i make this shit work? Sunlight spear does shit damage. What stat array should i have?
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>>167857412
>They only praise it because it runs well on pc
>60fps ruins weapon 2 times faster
Wow, shitty tripfag who can't even play games without guides is now openly lying to defend his favorite casual das3 trash
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>>167857632
what do you expect from an attwhore?
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>>167857605
16 levels and a ring slot aren't considered a small investment?
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>>167857616
>faith build at SL44

sorry, but you don't

the best miracles are at a much higher faith level, and they scale all the way to 60 faith (softcap)
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>>167857412
Can you even go a day without mentioning how much you hate DS2, how much you love Bloodborne, or bringing up "mustards"?
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Reminder do not respond to Lucy, just wait for him to slink off back to /bbg/ to be rejected there
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>>167855719
This works with greatbows too. Obscuring ring with millwood greatbow can potentially one-shot a host without ever being seen. Much more likely to work on phantoms but everyone is going to start taking cover after the first shot. Im curious as to whether it works at lower levels.
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Would you jump from the cliff for her?
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>>167857801
but I like replying to lucy because he's helped me kill several MemeBorne bosses before, and even went through a story chalice with me.

he's actually a pretty nice guy if you can ignore his godawful shitposting and attention-whoring

he's literally just lonely, anon-kun. Just like you and the rest of us.
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>>167857793
No, talking about how bad DaS2 was must be done every time someone tries trolling by saying it was good.
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>>167857332
Well, there were people wondering who the Demon Prince defeated by Lorian was, although he didn't seem that important.
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>>167857883
But that would mean leaving her
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>>167857893
Yes but he's an attentionwhore fuck, stop feeding the cancer
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>>167857883
yeah then skin her alive so I can wear that coat, shit is fly as fuck nigga def got some high ass magic resist u feel me brochacho?
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>>167857893
stop samefagging luci

go back to /bbg/
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>>167857739
So what do I do until then, jerk off ?
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>>167858046
It's not a zero sum game.
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>>167858118
I'm going for a faith build myself (eventually)

just pick a weapon and level its scaling stats along with vigor and endurance to get through the game, then go and respec once you find all the good miracles+upgrade materials
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>>167858107
holy shit stop assuming that because someone defends lucifer that it's just him samefagging

i am definitely not lucifer
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>>167852017
Wow, is this really true? I'd be happy if it is, but if they get rid of dancer and vorrt's bonfire as well as highwall then new players will definitley be in trouble, especially for getting into lothric castle.
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>>167857883
Depends. All my non dex characters leave her be. The others want her sweet fluffy scythe
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>>167858078
Edgy.
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>>167851629
>hides behind phantom and glues down that r1 at the first sign of danger
classic shitcan
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>>167858279
no, it's just an "I wish", sorry anon.
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What's the best boss to farm Souls from in jolly coop?
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>>167857698
Considering you lose on STR's builds life/fap/havel/wolf best ring combo, a few levels for only base requirements that won't benefit any other weapon you decide to wield and in return you're getting a inferior AR weapon with the same range and a better WA, but one you can use only once per FP bar, it is a significant bad investment.
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>>167858419
I just got a surprising amount at Aldritch around 56 +5
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Only Vaati posted DLC impressions ? What about Cowboy and the other e-celebs who were invited ?
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>>167858419
I like gundy
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>tfw Nioh general is free from Luci

It's a good feeling
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>>167857698
16 levels that could be put to use in stats that you will actively make use of more
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>>167858625
How did that happen ?
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>>167858238
What are the top level miracle ?
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>>167857698
lmfao no they're not, thats enough investment to be be able to multiclass into literally anything
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>>167851629
I've done enough invasions to know that when a host is wielding an irithyll straight sword, theyre almost certainly a noob that can be beaten without much effort. Its almost as bad as the drake sword for marking shitters.
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>>167858774
Fuck off and kill yourself cunt
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>>167858846
y-u too
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>>167858696
Such as strength, which will only net ~10-15% more AR on most weapons.

Such as vitality, which adds about ~5% damage reduction and almost 20 extra equip load, when factoring in havel's, or about 16 extra equip load, when factoring in rofap, or around 22 when factoring in both.

Or something else?
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>>167858753
the greater lightning spear, lightning weapon, and lightning stake (from the worm in smouldering lake) are the ones I'd consider higher level
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>>167858502
They're too busy playing Nioh to care about that.
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>>167858742
I'm not sure either, but I bet he'll get there when he plays it more. I'm just waiting for newfags to react to him when he starts posting there, it'll be a fun shitshow.
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DS2 servers down for anyone else?
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>>167858878
Did you light the first bong and become a lord of dong?
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>>167859061
They giving it a connectivity update and banning cheaters.
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How do I get past the 2 dragons in Lothric Castle? Ive been told to jump off the side of the bridge, but that just eventually loops back to the bonfire. Am I just missing an obvious path?
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>>167859061
Was working fine yesterday for me.
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>>167858928
Or endurance
Better to just hit harder or have more health or stamina
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>>167859115

Cross the flames once you get near the gate.
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>>167859167
That build is already 40 end though
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>>167848935
It is not my thread
It posts for the pardoner, the masked man
Oswald?
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>>167859115
You drop onto the first ledge under the bridge and go left, not right. You will still get bruned by the dragons, but you should be able to run through
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>>167859090
ye you know it this is how I did it
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/528022
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>>167859615
>not using Large Club
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>spend a week or so playing through different builds in I, trying out mage, cleric or STR builds
>it all goes smoothly and no enemy gives particularly any trouble
>come back to III
>get wrecked by Lothric and Winged knights before even leaving the High Wall

Jeez, I don't remember things being this hard.
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>>167858928
All of those.
Here's a slightly minmaxed example example using Dragon Tooth.
Enough poise to beat GS, yours can't poise through even hammers.
More health even with less vig
More of every defense but dark and magic.
Absorption can't be measured since you're using placeholder armor, but it'd be higher likely.
Can wield every other STR weapon for more damage.
More damage on a great hammer with identical moveset to yours save for the WA which you can barely use.
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New player here, DaS 3

What are the "best" fast weapons I should look for in the game? I'm going for a dex and so far I've found the rapier and the longsword, I like the first one but lacks a bit of range, and the long sword while good doesn't seem to scale that well with Dex
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>>167859735
DS3 isn't balanced
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>>167859735
Those things can wreck you at low SL since you won't have the stamina to dodge them as easily and often, and still get hits in. Pretty sure that the fat knight is designed to be avoided anyways, at least until you're at a high enough SL to be in Undead Settlement.
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>>167858742
I am waiting to pick it up and such. I was expecting /dsg/ to absorb it too, so I am waiting to see what happens with that.

That and DaS2 ruined peepers for me.
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>>167859735
New Gen souls games like BB and DaS3 have a pretty obvious change of pace: lost of rabid enemies with long combo chains. And I prefer it that way.
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>>167859889
Beat the Sword Master for Uchi. It'll serve you well enough until you get Washing Pole.
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>>167859971
They tend to have variable-length combos now. You can still exploit it, it just requires a bit more attention now.
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>>167859889

Any curved sword.
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>>167849787
>>167850014
t. shitty majors
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>>167859889
Ignore the katanaposters, katanas are shit in DS3 with a sole exception and that exception is only good for doing one attack in pvp.
Best dex weapons for pve are sellsword twinblades and crow quills and you can get both extremely fast even if you don't start as a mercenary who has sellswords from the start.
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>dogs suddenly getting hyper armor
>dogs hitting behind shields
>dogs teleporting
>dogs staggering for two hits and sometimes doing obscene amount of damage
>dogs hopping and dodging repeatedly
>barking non stop
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>>167859889
get crow quills and 60 dex.

if you're on PC I'll gladly drop you a pair of quills.
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>>167860404
>inb4 Ringed City has armoured dogs that hold fire swords in their mouth Sif-style
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>all bonfires removed, bonfires can now only be found within boss rooms

fix'd for you
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Should I infuse my Longsword with a Refined Gem if I plan on using it for a while? Just started as a Knight, figured I'd go STR/DEX.
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>>167848726
So I really like the Executioner's Greatsword, and just buffed it up to +6, but then realized it can't be infused at all. Is that a dealbreaker? In DS1, a normal +10 weapon was totally viable. Is that still the case in DS3?
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>>167860524
le epic difficulty meme xD
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>>167860404
>teleporting dogs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMUf-LJAeuQ
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>>167860449
>60 dex
60 is never worth it
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Is a Lothric Knight built any fun? I'm thinking the sword, shield, lance, gs, and a crossbow (knight crossbow if I hate myself, otherwise arbalest).
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>>167860565
If you're talking about PvE, you'll be fine. Also, DaS1 had +15 weapons you silly boy.
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>>167849331

>spend your entire life trying to live up to your heritage and create an heir who can link the flame
>go so far as to literally unearth a daughter of Gwyn himself from the earth to bear holy children for this purpose
>still manage to fail so hard you completely give up and turn yourself into a dragon so you can live forever.
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>>167860404
They should just remove dogs already. They are so electric and fast that every now and then they end up fucking up the engine and getting stuck inside the walls.
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>>167860550
Yes. Only use heavy for pure str, sharp for pure dex.

That said, there are better longswords than the uh longsword. The lothric knight longsword is much better. You can still use the starting one and it'll take you through the whole game but know there's better options available.
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>>167860716
God, you're right. I've completely forgotten.

HD rerelease when?
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>>167860712
It is but it's also quite heavy so going full lothric set + weapons might be too much.
>>
Shit Souls 3 Memehackazaki
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>>167860604

I really need these bonfires 10-30 seconds apart from each other with nothing in-between them.

like 50% of the bonfires in the game are literally to cut a few seconds out of your walk time, and are 10-20 seconds away from a boss bonfire.
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>>167860818
Thanks for the response. Didn't find a Lothric Sword yet. Found a Dark Sword and a Red Eye Orb on the wraith trapped in the basement. Is that one a safe bet?
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>>167860449
Yeah im on pc, but that weapon is from the DLC, isn't it? I don't have it in case it's a requirement
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>>167860872
I'll probably just menu switch them instead of using them all, since, like you said, it's quite heavy. I'm just wondering if it's a fun build at all. Blessed Weapon all day I guess.
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>>167860656
Sharp quills = 422 AR

800 damage backstabs are fun shit my man.

>>167860919
Funnily enough it isn't.

go to the Tower on the Wall bonfire with the pass "dsgmule" no quotations, all lowercase. Summon the purple or gold sign you see.
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>>167860910

The lothric knight longsword drops from lothric knights but is uncommon so couldd take you a while to get if you're unlucky.

Dark sword is arguably the best, though I haven't checked the rankings recently. Infuse that instead and use it.
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What rings and utility spells would generally be considered best for a pve bow/crossbow build. Using millwood as my heavy hitter if that matters.
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So I hear GS are the new meta, what happened?
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>>167860945

if you're doing a lothric cosplay you're not going to want to dodge around anyway, so go as heavy as you need to and wear some good rings. rock the greatshield and use a spear.
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>>167861018
Nice, thanks. Getting back into Souls and haven't played since Ivory King and Bloodborne.
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>>167861007
>Sharp quills = 422 AR
and 40 dex quills are ~390
30 AR in exchange for 20 levels is a shit trade
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>>167861057
Hidden body let's you run past bad situations, hawk ring for sniping, leo ring for extra damage to enemies while they attack.
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Is there a point to any of the greatshields that impair stamina regen speed? I thought blocking all attacks was a bad idea to begin with even with chloranthy ring.
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>>167861138

>tfw ringed city has over 30 bosses because they brought back almost every boss from the first 2 games for you to find in the dreg heap
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>>167849104
The other unkindled besides you. This includes Anri, Seigward and Hawkwood.
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Any info on Ornstein showing up in this DLC?
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>>167860521
>combination of dogs and torch hollows
no, nope, fuck off
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>>167861350
Man this could be a great excuse for a boss rush/chalice dungeon feature.
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>>167861218
he can invest in faith or int for weapon buffs if he'd like to do that instead then
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>>167861225

it's to counteract the fact that some of the really good greatshields have absurd stability and trivialize bosses if you use the good ol' method of letting go of the block button between enemy swings.
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What does /dsg/ think of cowboy?
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>>167861379
Vaati already confirmed that there will be a new boss, "Old Dragonslayer Armour".
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>>167861071
they made them faster and were largely favoured by HA changes
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>>167861510
i think he needs to hurry the fuck up with the information he released from the fucking press event
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>>167860521

>they spawn homing soulmass passively every few seconds.

>>167861379

they already got shit for rehashing ornstein in DS2, why would they go that route again?
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>>167861007
>tfw only red and white signs around here

I have matchmaking on and summong signs unrestricted, that's correct, right?
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I want to fug this angel!
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>>167861612
Wrong place buddy.

you're looking for "Tower on the Wall", not "High Wall of Lothric"

pass = "dsgmule"
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Is it worth it dropping 20 levels into faith to cast darkmoon blade?
If not, is it worth it putting 4 into int to cast great magic weapon over just using resin?
Assuming I wouldn't otherwise touch those stats and the levels are coming out of vit/endurance, DaS1.
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>>167861556
>>167861598
We've never fought the real Ornstein. It's too much drama being built on him for it to be nothing.
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>>167861510
Fightincowboy? He was one of the most cancerous, tryhard youtubers I'd ever seen. His """builds""" were the essence of what made DaS2 PvP bad. I don't know if he's become watchable since then.

Or you're talking about somebody else and I'm a big baka.
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>>167852647
Emma was working for Londor?
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>>167861695
I guess I'm doing something else wrong
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>>167862008
>>167862008
That's my sign right there, anon. JollyCooperation.
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>>167861057
Lloyd's Sword Ring for extra damage. Maybe combo with a Blessed off-hand + Evil Eye so that you don't have to waste Estus for chip damage. Otherwise, Red Tearstone + off-hand Morion if you want to play more risky.

Hawk Ring is a must-have for extra range, since damage falls off over distance.

Farron for extra casts of the WA, optionally combined with off-hand Executioner's.
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>>167861774

I've fought the ""Fake"" ornstein twice now. no more. nameless king was your "real" ornstein fight, enjoy it and move.
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>>167854776
freshest memebuild on the block baby

cast affinity while getting in range, cast wall of light to make it fly everywhere, and if they roll backwards follow up after wall of light with great deep soul. the gds will arc in the air instead of flying straight.
afterwards spam deep soul to make space, make them rollattack so you have easy parries, swap sage with hornet.
if they stay close, whip out the spear, damage is not bad
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>>167861759
>Adds magic damage to right hand weapon. Magic damage added is catalyst's MagAdjust * 1.1

Lightning resin adds either 80 or 150 damage to your weapon
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>>167862072
Oh, alright, thanks a lot anon, sorry for being retarded
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>>167861510
I think he's entertaining. Don't watch his streams, but I do occasionally watch his videos, doesn't seem like the cancerous type at all. Just pretty chill.
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>>167862139
Yeah I've done the calculations, with an oolacile catalyst great magic weapon is adding 198 magic deapon to lightning resin's 150, but I'm still pretty new to the game. Is 48 AR worth the investment? I just don't know.
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MALE POWER FANTASY
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>>167862518
>skipping leg day
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Why is there even a level restriction beyond SL150? Everyone 150+ should be able to match with each other, its bullshit that an already sparse population have to deal with this
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>>167862518
nice legs, sissyboi
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>>167862518
NICE LEG BRUH
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>>167862518
leg day
now
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>>167859905
Ten times more balanced than ds1/2.
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>>167862518
bring back naked souls

das3's huge defense penalty for leaving a slot empty is BULLSHIT
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>>167862551
>>167862657
>>167862660
>>167862705
Leg day is for whips, get swole
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Does the blue eye orb search for guilty people anywhere or just the area im in?
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>>167862619
Imo everyone beyond SL200 should have a vastly increased level range.

Diminishing returns start to kick in pretty bad around that point.
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>>167862858
Your legs are not swole, twinkass.
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>>167862121
>He thinks the drake was Ornstein
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>>167862518
>tfw DaS male character wore a thong with no armor
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>>167862953
Anywhere, although IIRC it's more likely to match to into nearby areas.
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>>167862790
>DS3
>more balanced than DS2
lmfao baka
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redpill me on why DS2 is the best souls game
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Has anyone a link with video of the first boss ?
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>>167862972
There is a point where diminishing returns prevent your character from getting any stronger. Past SL250, the only thing your character gains from leveling any further is new tricks, but they don't gain any more power.
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>>167863385
Because for now its the only one with desert slutcerer garb
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>>167863385
the pve is a lot more linear and less exploratory than das1, and soul memory is pretty stupid, but if it weren't for SM matchmaking the pvp would probably be the best so far
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>>167863385
>great armor design
>fun and diverse weapons
>Tons of bosses
>balanced pvp
>changes in ng+
>Varied maps
>fun covenants
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What makes the Estoc the best thrusting weapon? In DSII the Rapier was top tier so I'm reticent.
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>>167863510
Not true. You get stronger all the way to max. There is no reason to ever stop leveling under the soul memory system.
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>>167862518
I want to slobber all over that cock.
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>>167863740
they are not talking about soul memery anon
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>>167863385
I actually liked soul memory for>>167862619

Its a shame it fucked over people who wanted to play lower levels though
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>>167863385
Anything good about it is purely the result of all the patches its gone through over about two years. It was trash on release, and still has terrible world design and balance.

Don't let anyone tell you the pvp is balanced, they've long since fell in with the dark infused dark weapon hexer jester adaptability meta.
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>>167863385
Using your brain and available resources actually rewards you
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>>167863824
>it's a shame it fucked over twinks
You mean.
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>>167863858
>he thinks being immune to backstabs is worth wearing shit-tier jester armor
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>>167863802
Then 150 and up is completely irrelevant.
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>>167863858
the "everything is a dark/quality" build is not because dark or quality is OP in das2 but because it's the generic "lmao just softcap every stat" build and the soul memory system encourages people to never stop leveling
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>>167863953
>armor mattering in a souls game
baka

it's all about the fashionsouls
unfortunately jester shirt is shit for that

also you can wear the turtle armor isntead if you have shitloads of vit, it also gives backstab immunity although it's heavy as fuck

i'd rather deal with backstab immunity than with "loma infinite unpunishable estus" though

actually i wish das3 did the bloodborne-style backstab system where you have to land a slow-ass charge attack so it's only really useful against unaware opponents. backstabs in pvp always seem to interact poorly with lag
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anyone want to trade a Flamberge for something?
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>>167864016
It's also because the player's dark defense scales with the lowest of int and fth, meaning only dark builds have dark defense.
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How meaningful was the footage that got taken down? On one hand I want to avoid seeing much besides the trailer, but on the other hand I want to know if this'll turn out good compared to before
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>>167864317
an extremely well-fleshed out boss fight
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>>167864308
stats mattering for defense is more of a das3 thing though

they contribute a bit in das2 but armor and rings are a way bigger deal
if you were a tryhard in the pvp arena you would wait to see what buff your opponent cast on his weapon and then switch to the relevant quartz+2 ring
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>>167864317
Entire boss fight with Crimson Bat / Demon From Below / Demon Prince. >>167848996
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>>167849120
>>167849183
What are you on about lads, where's the other bat?
I can't be this blind can I?
He doesn't have a health bar either
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>>167863385
It's not the best, but it does certain things better than DS1 or DS3.

>dual wielding / power stance
>hubworld-based exploration
>most armor and weapon customization
>most stats customization
>most prep-heavy combat
>most NG+ / replay content
>lowest PC requirements / fewest bugs
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>>167864449
>stats mattering for defense is more of a das3 thing though
Fucking lol? Stats in DaS3 matter for about 30 less damage at most, unless you manage to pass a defense breakpoint (and there are very few weapons you'll pass the first breakpoint for).

Stats in DaS2 could make you take single digit damage, though armor and spells helped a lot.
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>>167863637
DS2 estoc > Rapier

DS2 estoc was strength scaling (higher damage) and has a shield pierce attack. The rapier was only better for counter hits / trades.

Estoc is mostly considered top tier because it's the longest thrusting sword AND has a slash attack so that you are not limited to purely stabbing attacks.
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>>167864634
The only stats that matter for resistance are the ones you use to meet the casting requirements of GMB. (casting requirements? what casting requirements spice lmao)
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>>167864507
>What are you on about lads, where's the other bat?
It glows red, how can you miss it.

>I can't be this blind can I?
Blind as a bat

>He doesn't have a health bar either
Most certainly does, it starts with a full heath bar when first bat gets to half.

If you're watching the webm, the second bat was already killed and demon prince went on to his final form.
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>>167864572
>Most stats customization
Not at all, just level everything.

>most prep-heavy combat
>good

>>167864634
that's because people just put everything to 99.
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>>167848996
So the delayed chaos orb he casts at 0:20 is the Seething Chaos pyromancy? meh
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>>167864724
And using your spells at less than their original requirements cut the duration.

Stats could account for as much as 30-40% extra elemental reduction, which was extremely useful for, say, getting 1,001 fire defense.
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>>167864752
>second bat was already killed
Thank you
>blind as a bat
Nice pun
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>>167864497
Wooo, ANOTHER demon.
So imaginative. Much new. Such original.

>>167864572
Yeah; but too many humanoids enemies, placement that doesn't make sense, and everyone has the same dying animation.
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>>167864263
Backstabs are also really weak in Dark Souls 2, because backstab windows depend on the weapon you are using (GS and up have a "hilt check" backstab animation). AND they're subject to defense. So you either have easier backstabs with low damage weapons (which do only a little more than a 2HR2) or you have high damage backstabs with weapons that are very hard to hit with.

Counter damage and trades are king in DS2. After that it's the Rock-Paper-Scissors of elemental defense vs physical defense and buffs/infusions vs RoBFlynnSO
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>>167864802
His is probably an amped up version, like how he's double casting floating chaos. From the description, Seething Chaos sounds like a sticky grenade, which would probably be really good if you're free aiming it.
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>>167852892
>X: Touch
>hoverhand
Ashen one is beta as fuck
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>>167864870
I''m pretty sure high stats weren't necessary for that.

Just wear the ugly meme outfit (warlockhat+blackwitchdress+lioncuff+desertskirt) plus quartz+2 and dispelling+1 rings, and throw GMB on
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I have 40/40/35 in STR/DEX/LCK. I've also invested 35 in FTH to cast Darkmoon Blade, but I'm kinda torn about it. Is it better if I respec and put all those points into something else? I'm using a +10 Hollow Onikiri & Ubadachi btw.
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>>167865036
But why would you willingly be ugly in SMsouls? There's nothing stopping you from getting your stats up anyways.
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1/2

>dark soul serpent

>cinematic zoom on the dark sun, much more purulent and red than before and coming off more similar to a gaping wound.
>worm-like beings extremely similar in appearance to the pus of man can be seen falling within the discharge, collecting in what can only be described as a mountainous writhing mass of dark.
>world darkens as the dark sun blots out, and a massive black "Serpent" like beast slowly oozes out of it, as if it were a hole in the sky
>physical presentation is similar to that of the carthus sand worm, however far larger and with an "Abyssal" motif. Head is snake-like but simplistic and deformed. maintains itself normally a large distance away from the arena due to its large size.
>arena consists of a crescent shape built from three generously sized rubble platforms, connected by short bridges.
>boss can reposition itself around the arena by "walking" however rarely does so.
>all three phases are largely the same, save for reduced arena size and more aggressive boss patterns
>phase 2: left-most platform is destroyed, boss speed increases and openings decrease
>phase 3: right-most platform destroyed, central platform only remaining part of arena; boss speed and aggression drastically increased

>attacks
>-lunges over one of the platforms, repositioning itself on the other side of the arena. It's long body remains moving over the platform for a good while after performing the lunge, sometimes long enough for the serpent to start another attack before the denied area is returned (especially during later phases). Provides a good means of damage for ranged attacks or particularly brave melee attacks.
>Vomits up a corpse hollow onto one of the arena platforms, which will turn into a pus of man if not destroyed (phase 3 corpse hollow turns into a pus of man near instantly). Vomiting process provides a damage opening for melee players. The serpent grants a short grace period to fight the pus of man, before it continues its attack patterns.
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I want to bully Irina.
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>>167865117
For the meme 100% damage resistance of course

you cannot hit the resist cap with stats, you need ugly meme armor.
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>>167865068
are you sl200?
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OK, where should I go for sunlight medal farming?

SL53 +5, should I inch myself up a little bit to find more people?
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>>167864572
And remember :
>killing enemies eventually make them despawn
>finishing the game without lighting bonfire or dying gives you special stuff
It was a really good idea. Too lame there was that SM thing that ruined the game.
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>>167865002
>not just smearing her across the floor with Mornes hammer
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>>167865193
Make Eygon proud, bully her with Morne's
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What's the best talisman/chime specifically for casting Lightning Blade with 30 FTH?
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>>167865241
Around 180, don't have the game open right now.
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>>167865068
From the sounds of it, you're well past the point where stats matter.
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How the hell are you supposed to fight the pus of man? I've got 200 hours plus in DS3 and they still give me trouble.
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>>167865002
>be naked
>put ultraweapon on back
>it just sort of hovers half a foot away from the player rather than being attacked to him
i guess he is secretly a magical girl anime protagonist or something
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>>167865397
Fire attacks, anon. They make them recoil. Just hit em with a torch and they should recoil and then you attack with your main weapon and repeat. Otherwise just use a ranged attack of some nature, it's easy.
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>>167865397
Firebomb, torches, flame arrow, coiled sword.
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>>167865397
Roll around their right side (your left) and use fire.
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>gankers
>private profile

Geez I wonder why
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>>167865487
>>167865493
>>167865598
Thanks, I thought as much. Kinda sucks that using fire is nearly essential. Not a fun enemy at all just a train on a collision course.
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>>167864449
>>167864634
leveling Int/Fth in DS2 can contribute up to 14% reduction of the respective damage (up to 17% for fire) at their softcaps vs minimums.

Great magic barrier is 25%, Dispelling Ring +1 is 12%. Armor can contribute up to 15-25%.Quartz rings contribute about 25%.

To make elemental (buffed+infused) damage weaker than physical (Rob+Flynn) infusion, you need roughly 30% reduction total.

So 5 Int/Fth + Dispelling ring or minimum armor is about the same as 50 Int/Fath naked.

By contrast, physical defense from 50/50/50 Str/Dex/End contributes ~5.8 actual damage reduction per hit, whereas physical defense from armor (havel's set) is 85 actual damage reduction per hit.

>>167864793
Stop this stupid fucking meme. No one PvPs above SL 200 because the SM tiers get so wide that you fight SL500+ players. SL200 DS2 is about the same as SL120 DS1, so the vast majority (>95%) of players do not "level everything".
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>>167865736
Not actually essential at all, just makes them piss easy. Roll around their right side and they can't do shit.
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>>167865471
>black knight set
>put black knight halberd on back
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>>167865736
Well, you can kill them before they spawn (on the high wall anyway), or just ignore them.
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>>167865753
Most people played DaS2 at at least 250.
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>>167865753
200 is a big number, anon.
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>>167865002
What helm is that?
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>>167866063
Syan's Helm
http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Syan's+Set
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>>167863935
Until agape came about and twinks became the strongest they've ever been
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>>167866164
Twinks were always strong if you were backing up your saves.
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>>167866164
twinking for invasions is still miserable unless you CE yourself a bigass pile of cracked red balls

WHO decided "lmao no full redeye orb this game"
>>
Am I wrong for not wanting to fucking duel hosts in invasions?

Don't get me wrong it's not like I can't but jesus christ, how can anyone think it's fun to have to fight through 15 +10 estus and +30% life than me? It's so lame especially against staggered R1 greatsword assholes.
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>>167866291
There was a full eye orb in the network test iirc.
Why it was removed is still unknown.
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>>167865273
Lothric Castle bonfire, you can either farm the Knight near you (faster) or farm the spear one that walks to the stairs too.
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Can someone go over daggers with me? If I'm doing a build that only uses them, what should I aim for? From what I gathered by lurking in here, in PVE, Carthus Bandit Knife is probably the best way to go, right? I was thinking of making it a luck build just for that. For PVP, the go-to is the Corvian Greatknife, right? Are there any others worth looking at?
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>>167865184

2/2

>boss charges momentarily before firing one of three ranged attacks; a volley of dark dregs that "rain" onto the arena, a dark "laser" that spreads slowly across the entire arena crescent (either left-right or right-left), a pile of vomit that covers the currently occupied platform (roughly 50% of central platform), remains for an extended period of time, and slows your ability to move. All three abilities will apply small amounts of curse when affected by them.
>Fires a dark dreg at the player with little wind-up. Can fire between 1-8ish dreg's in succession, depending on RNG and the current phase. These dregs also apply a small amount of curse (usually not enough to curse you in the first phase)
>lunges and bites one of the platforms (roughly 50% of the central platform) with a highly telegraphed wind-up. Is almost a guaranteed death if caught, otherwise provides a few seconds of damage opening for melee players. exudes non-damaging curse aura when very close to it, must be attacked with caution.

>provides soul of the dark serpent, which can be transposed into either Dark Mist Pyromancy (applies curse within AoE) or Deep Affinity Sorcery (has greater tracking and duration)
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>mfw I invade a fight club
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>>167866619

Put on the Obscuring Ring and snipe them. If you get cornered just BC.
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>>167866619
>mfw I invade yet another gank
Might as well just uninstall.
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>>167865184
>>167866575
Can you tell me about weapon scaling/stat requirements for the dlc?
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>>167866442
>Am I wrong for not wanting to fucking duel hosts in invasions?
Dude. It's an invasion, not a duel. Fuck honor, use every dirty trick in the book to win.
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>>167866442
so uh, don't duel them?
if you were doing "honorabu 1v1 fightan" neither of you would be using estus anyways
in an invasion you should always feel free to use any dirty tricks available to you

i will stick to e-bushido honorabu 1v1 fightan if i'm specifically getting summoned to fight the host (e.g. through a red or purple sign), but otherwise there's no point
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>>167866442
It's your personal business
I personally love to harass gank squads by being cheapest bastard or fuck with invaders in the anor londo(people still fall for the backstab elevator trick)
But modern souls fans hate fun and think that multiplayer should be fair or something
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>>167866795
he's making shit up, anon
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>>167866619
>>167866784
Try stop using your shitty ultra weapons, retards. Maybe you'll be able to fight multiple enemies like any normal person do.
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>>167866896
I-I know that. But isn't it weird we've seen a good chunk of the dlc but haven't gotten stat/req info?
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>tfw you realize all these hosts that summon 3 phantoms and keep running away while their phantoms do shit are the same people that complain about invaders hiding behind mobs
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>>167866291
you can farm abyss spirits for ascetics, which can be traded for 4-5 orbs each
>>
>doing aldrich faithful
>invade a fuccboi and his two butt buddies
>seed of giant tree
>theyre spamming pyromancies and sorceries with each practically chunking my health
>host buffs up his weapon
>hits me three times and im dead

Whats even the point of using shit like greatswords when buffs outdamage them and cost less stamina to use?
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>>167867043
>Just use straight swords
Fun game faggot
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>>167866291
Can't you farm infinite crackeds with Shulva?
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>>167867059
Why would they be
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>>167867054
No, it isn't you dumbass
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>>167866442
I suggest you never estus before a host, even if not dueling.
They already have advantage over you, you should try and get them not to use them
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>>167848726
yo, fix that Dark Souls sounds download pls, i would like to use that.
>>
WHERE

ARE

THE

LEEKS
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>>167867148
Didn't even specified, fag, and I prefer greatswords and scythes.
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>>167866442
I'm fucking sick of hosts wanting duels against invaders.

>muh honor
>this is fair

No this is not you fucking piece of shit
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>>167867054
Nope, sorry. They were all more interested in being the first to beat the boss. The only person who got anywhere near close to recording info on new stuff was vaati, who took a few notes as he was playing. And the fucker was more interested in writing paragraphs of lore than noting basic shit like requirements, weapon arts, scaling, anything. He didn't even try to upgrade or use any of the new stuff or cast any new spells.

The only thing anyone knows is a 40int requirement on Great Soul Dregs, and even that's on another anon's word and might be fake.
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>>167866619
I started using CE to kill the bosses from these faggots. You have arena and the option to go unembered.
Plus it's just fun to see the fanmail.
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>>167867043
>he doesn't use demon's greataxe to oneshot entire ganks with infinite hyperarmor

>>167867064
Invading in the abyss was usually better because players were guaranteed to drop ascetics. There's no one left to invade in there, though.
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>>167867318

http://www.mediafire.com/file/3xv1roubkstcwm9/Dark_Souls_Audio_Files.zip
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>>167867382
What is fairer though? 30% more HP or 30% more and double estus and seed if you try to run away while I wait by the bonfire?
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>>167867363
>not everything is viable in pvp
>people insist that DS3 is more balanced than DS2
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>host and 3 summons
>seeded world
>host and his cocksuckers won't even go near the giants
>they act surprised when people start to use CE

>>167867342
Here Anon
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>>167867342
There fucking aren't any. This pastebin is the best we have. It's probably the only thing we'll have until the DLC comes out.

http://pastebin.com/Y7MTapKN
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>>167866795

they're scaled for very very late game, 120SL+. 92 str greatshield is no joke. Quality builds will not be able to use most of them, so consider it a buff to everything else. A lot of love for pure str/dex builds and dark type.


was gonna type out another but honestly im lazy
>>
How does DSCM work? Are those only other people using it I can see?
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Pretty much this >>167867382 but goes to the invaders too
>Muh running away and summoning
>muh 3 phantoms
>muh seed
Just fucking get used to the game not being fair and people not wanting to lose
>>167867542
1,5m soul memory, invaded 3 times in the 40 minutes yesterday(ps4), first time I even forgot that spirits are hostle to you too
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>>167867614
Anon please, there's a difference between viable and good. Both 3 and 2 have "viable" weapons in every class, but over half the classes might not exist otherwise.
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Oh hello, it seems you were trying to have fun in dark souls.

Let me change that.
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>invade some shitter as purple
>start chasing him down
>he gets invaded by a Sunbro
>"Oh, this'll help, we can take the host down together."
>Sunbro just stands on the sidelines and watches us fight
Why are people so fucking retarded? You used the Red Orb, not the Red Sign, don't be a fucking honorfag and just help me kill the host so that we both get what we want.
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Guys I really want to make a SL40 +4 weapon build that centers around the dragonform

I know it's garbage but this is the bracket where people are still dumb enough to use shields and the roar is the only remotely good thing about dragonform.

What weapon should I use? poise weapons are basically out the window.
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The dlc won't be as easy as the game right?
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>>167867794
>sidestep their wide swings
>easy backstab
>rinse and repeat
The greatsword-carrying Lothric Knights are way harder.
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>>167867808
That's when you beat the other invader to death instead
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>>167867808
>Baaaaaw, why aren't you playing by my rules1111111
Pathetic
It's his own personal business
Maybe he's here just to dance around host
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How well populated are NG+ convenant invasions?
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>>167867794
>>167867943

greatsword variants are both easy as fuck, you just dodge their attacks and then staggerlock

the shield varieties are 10x more annoying.
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>>167867723
>92 str greatshield is no joke
lies

>>167867759
I remember the invasion range being retardedly huge down there, which probably helps.

>tfw TOR's angels are omni-hostile
>tfw judgement beam spam
>tfw curselight
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>>167867763
>there's a difference between viable and good.
>there's a difference between good for using in pvp and good for using in pvp
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>>167867808
I do this to spite other invaders, it's fucking hilarious.
If one of them gets low I might even try a cheap shot
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>>167867605
From could make invasions fairer giving the 30% more hp. Seeds should have a side effect, considering how easy it is and how often we can have one, first; killed mobs should give invaders souls, and second; it should allow friendly fire for the host team.
There should be an animation for summoning too.

>>167867759
>people not wanting to lose
They're not even trying to get to the boss, they just use dried fingers, wait for invasions then have easy kills doing 3v1 or even 4v1 sometimes, this is not what I call "wanting not to lose"
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Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Ganking Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Black Crystal Away From The World Like Nigga Invade someone else Haha
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>>167867843
Don't forget about perseverance. Weapons with high critical damage might be better to capitalize on roar guardbreaks.

Use the tailbone weapons for maximum dragon fashion.
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Am I supposed to be able to use WA's after I run out of FP? What's the point in them costing FP at all? Just to fuck you over if you also use magic?
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>>167867794
Those two in front of Oceiros can be a pain in the ass. I have more trouble with Lothric Spear Knights though.
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>>167867794
>roll through swing
>proceed to fog gate because the fatty won't follow you for more than a couple yards

>>167868137
>invade someone else
>when the game literally forces you to invade hosts with phantoms
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>>167868053
>move left
>get stabbed
>move right
>get shieldbashed
THERE'S NO WINNING
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>>167868115
>They're not even trying to get to the boss, they just use dried fingers, wait for invasions then have easy kills doing 3v1 or even 4v1 sometimes
And why it's bad?
Why wouldn't they do it?
It's game mechanic that allows you to fuck with other people, how can person who fucking invades even oppose to it
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>>167867808
>mad spirit upset other invaders don't trust them
>when they're famous for being dickheads
This is comedy gold.
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>>167868208
Effectiveness lowered and some special techniques don't work
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>>167867794
Why people think he's hard? It's just a regular mob.
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>>167868053
Cathedral K***hts with shields are easy to deal with, UGS wielding ones are a bit harder, but manageable. But Lothric Knights with UGS, holy fuck. No matter how much hp I have they always 2 shots me. I can't even move after the first hit because it somehow hit my head and stunlock for a second.
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DS2 SERVERS STILL DOWN FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
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>>167868247
>take the shield bash to the face like a champ
>parry the follow up
It's never failed me.
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>can't backstab hosts out of fog gates
aight from
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>>167868115
I'm talking about things as they are now. Dueling is your best chance at winning unless the host is dumb
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>ITT : invaders crying like little bitches when they don't find a wounded, newbie host to invade, but instead an armed-to-the-teeth gank squad
Cry me a river, scum. Do you also think host should be tied up to a pole while you stab him with unlimited stamina?
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>using CBV for the first time in pvp
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>>167868358
>shit game died permanently
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>>167867064
>>167867179
you can also farm infinite CREOs by killing the tall whip guys outside the red covenant area

doesn't mean it isn't a pain in the ass though
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>>167868313
Ah. That makes sense, because the only thing I noticed when quickstepping with 0 FP is that the sound effect is less flashy.
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>>167868115
>Seeds should have a side effe
They have
You can train all mobs to the host and his friends
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>>167868469
>Dark Souls 1 needs mods just to play online
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>>167868274
t. ganker

>>167868445
I usually win when the host wants a "fair" duel. It just gets annoying when he starts sipping and running away when he's about to die
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>>167867723
Hmm ok I see thanks. I have a quality build at sl120 that I can respec so I'll do that.

What are some of the good/fun weapons that you know of? I'm particularly interested in the blue crystal dagger.
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>>167868191
> Weapons with high critical damage might be better to capitalize on roar guardbreaks.

So Crow talons?
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>>167868553
But it's perfect with mods so who cares~
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>>167868536
Deacons aren't of much help
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>People who complains about gank squad are complained about invasions being free since das days
Why can't this cancer just play offline if they don't want to play with other people?
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>>167868057
Viable is something you can use and get good enough at to win reliably. Like ultras in 2 and 3. Please don't pretend they're good in 2, I'm an ultra fan and I can count on my fingers the number of ultras that really feel strong

Good is something that is naturally very strong in PvP, like straight swords in 2 and 3. If you get good at them, you can beat up people trying to use bad and "viable" weapons almost always

Viable is just a way to say, this weapon isn't good but you can win with it.
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>>167868723
>this weapon isn't good but you can win with it.
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>>167868814
>you like polearms but they're difficult to use against mobs and useless against bosses
Fuck you Dark Souls.
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>>167868723
Viable means the weapon has no notable defects or downsides, or its perks counteract the downsides just right. You aren't strictly worse off for using the weapon.

Good mean the weapon has no notable defects and a few advantages on top of that, or has perks that do more than counteract the defects. This is a weapon you are strictly better off using.
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The tracking of some enemies in this game is fucking bullshit

Especially those red eye knights with the greatswords
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>>167869016
Isn't Lucerne a nice weapon? I know like it a lot.
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>2 months before TRC
>nioh just came out
this is going to be a fun time
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>>167869190
>I know people like it a lot*
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>>167869220
One month
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>>167868647
>DS1
>Perfect
Literally the worst game in the series
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>>167869190
It is? I'll try it.
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>>167869375
six weeks is more than a month anon
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>>167868814
There are iredeemably bad weapons and weapos you can make up for their inferiority by having enough skill.

>>167869120
Yes and the point is. there are way too many weapons and whole classes even, in both 2 and 3, that you are strictly worse off for using. You can make up for their inferiority by having enough skill and by making use of their meh upsides, but the fact is that they are still not good tools
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>>167869579
But it isn't two months.
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>>167868612

I like the giant door shield for the pure absurdity of it, but it's more of a joke weapon.

aquamarine dagger is neat, it has good int scaling and deals 50/50 phys/magic damage. 24 int 12 dex iirc. WA casts a form of hidden body but you can't move during it, I'm guessing it was meant for offhand w/ talisman/staff in main, I don't play casters.
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>>167868814
There are good weapons, viable weapons, and bad weapons. Viable weapons are the equivalent of mid tier.
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>>167868553
the servers are still up tho
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What was the fertile pygmy doing while the other lords fought the dragons?
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>>167870103
>fertile pygmy
excuse me I have some lewd requests to go make...
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>>167869964
If it dealt 50%phys/50%magic, it would be really shit. That's the worst possible split as far as defenses goes.

If it dealt 100%phys/100%magic, but only dealt phys in the dagger form and magic in the rapier form, that would be pretty cool.
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>>167870103
>fertile
Answered your own question, there. All those humans had to come from somewhere, you know.

>>167870198
>furtive pygmy is a qt shortstack
>nobody ever said the pygmy was male
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>>167870279

I'm talking about the base damage being 50/50, the int scaling is a lot higher than the phys scaling. dunno how much because my int is regularly <24 but the number was quite larger even in it's negative form.
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>>167869964
Makes sense. I want to be able to use as many of the new weapons (don't care about magic) as i can on my first playthrough of the dlc. Could you advise me on sl/stat distros? I was gonna use my quality 120 sl build.
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>>167870489
Most of the equipment before the boss looks to be pyro/dark, actually. The boss itself drops straight pyro gear.
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>18 years later
>ds2 servers still not fixed
help me
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>>167865981
>highest gains for Str/Dex/Int/Fth are from 30 to 40
>stops everything at 30
>there is literally no benefit to having 30 in all your stats, you do more damage with all weapons if you do 50 in one stat and infuse /buff to that damage type.

135 is the top SL acceptable in DS1. 139 is 30 in all stats.

If you include the stats you didn't put into vitality, SL 139 DS1 = SL 220 DS2.

Typical DS2 build is:
>40 Vigor
>40 Endurance
>32 ADP
>40 STr/Dex/Int OR Fth (pick 1 for SL150, pick 2 for SL200)

SL 150: Add 20 points in either Attunement (drop ADP by 3 points for every 1 ATN point), vitality, or softcaps up to 50 for vigor/str/dex/int/fth.
SL 200: Add 30 points in either Attunement (drop ADP by 3 points for every 1 ATN point), vitality, or softcaps up to 50 for vigor/str/dex/int/fth.

It's the same meta that DS1 used, the numbers are only different because of there being more stats overall that matter.
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>>167870760
It'll blow over before the weekend.
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>>167868469
ds2 pvp is awesome
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>>167870489

>quality

you'll be locked out of a chunk of the weapons even if both your str & dex are dipping into the 30's, and this is ignoring the fact that a decent chunk of the equipment you find is related to int/faith either as a catalyst or via scaling. It's very clearly designed as end end game content for people close to or at the 120 PvP mark.

you'll want to be around 40 str/dex if you want to use everything but the most specialized shit made for stat dumpers.
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>>167870818
>>32 ADP
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>>167869220
Oh cool, looks like they got Nioh to run on the N64
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Why are the DS2 servers still down?!? I just wanted to invade some low levels...
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>>167868814
Craftsman's hammer is the definitive meme weapon in DS2. It's secretly very powerful (single stat scaling, high counter, strike damage) with but everyone treats it like it's terrible.
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>>167869579
Ah, Team Ninja, or as some would call it, Boob physics Company.
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>>167869220

I don't like nioh, it sticks too much to the WAY too common cinematic design a lot of AAA games cling to these days. If i wanted a half-baked dialogue with blatantly over-stylized personalities, I'd watch a movie.
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>>167871154
I just wanted to CRUSH STUPID LOW LEVEL IDIOTS in the arena with my MASSIVELY OVERLEVELED CHARACTER because SOUL MEMORY IS ENTIRELY IGNORED after a FEW SECONDS of searching.
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>>167871052
32 ADP is the softcap for agility (105 agl) if you have no attunement.
24 ADP is the next softcap (99 agl)

below that and backsteps become useless and you'll get caught at the end of your rolls against competent players.
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So many cancerous fucking halberd users in ds3 pvp. Just picked up a crossbow to punish those pussy weapon art spammers hard.
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>>167870818
*drop ADP by 1 point for every 3 ATT points
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>>167868814
My first playthrough of dark souls I beat the game as a thief while only using the bandits knife and quelaag's sword.

I was new to the series and figured since it had S scaling it would eventually out damage everything.

Oy.
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>>167871521
Bandit Knife is rad.
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>>167871521
nobody ever said bandits knife and quelaags sword were bad / unviable
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>>167866527
Repeating this. Also what rings should I even use? I haven't the foggiest idea.
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>>167870973
Hmm yeah I can do 40/40 no problem, with the rings to boost em further if I have to.

Would it be a good idea to grind to sl160 just to pump str and dex to 60? I don't want to be any more OP, just have the stats to use as much stuff as possible.
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>>167868053
>>167868247
>Kick them twice
>Riposte
>Rinse & repeat
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>>167871521
Bandits knife is still top tier against demons since you can augment it and it has bleed. Bandit's knife + pine resin is a legit speedrun strategy against the demon bosses
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>>167871651
Don't pump strength, just have 40 and two-hand your weapon for the 50% bonus. You'll need the extra 20 levels for vit anyways.
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>>167871651
weapons with that high requirements are purely for specializing in the stat, also bear in mind two handing increases strength so you can still use bigger clubs and axes
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>>167867682
>can rush the slut wear on a low SL twink without fighting any bosses

BASED MIYAZAKI
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Okay, so I'm trying to figure out lore for a bit and need someone to confirm/correct my assumptions.
1. The gods (Gwyn etc.) caused humans to become undead after dying so they would kindle the flame and the fire would never extinguish to prevent the Age of Dark?
2. Why is humanity in general refered to as bad or dark for that matter?
3. Is the ability to warp between bonfires just a mere game mechanic or is there a lore explanation?
4. Is the ultimate decision to kindle the flame and extent the Age of Fire considered "good"?
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>>167871521
My first playthrough I started as a knight class but went for light armor got the standard set. I used a divine broadsword up to Quelaag and then used her fury sword up to the Kiln.

I discovered black knight weapons there and turned my character into a tanky shitter with a BKHalberd and donned the Steel set plus steel great shield and have been going through NG+ like that now.
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>>167871807
the door to the dlc is gonna be in the kiln of the first flame
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>>167871828
Fuck off, retard
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>>167871828
nothing has been confirmed about the undead curse but that's a popular theory
not so much bad but dark because humanity is derived from the dark soul and is related to the dark and deep and all that shit
its a miracle that homeward bones and the lordvessel can cast, not sure the justification in the other games but in 3 probably something to do with you being ash created by the bonfire
depends on your perspective and there's no answers as to what an age of dark actually means, by das3 linking the fire is pointless though, if you think of the age of dark as a bad end there are no good ends in that game
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>>167871807

the DLC is literally in the kiln of the first flame, you cant do it without beating the game.
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>>167871828
>The gods (Gwyn etc.) caused humans to become undead after dying so they would kindle the flame and the fire would never extinguish to prevent the Age of Dark?
horseshit

>Why is humanity in general refered to as bad or dark for that matter?
Humanity is literally tangible darkness. Read the DaS1 descriptions for Dark Orb, Dark Bead, Dark Fog, and Pursuers.

>Is the ability to warp between bonfires just a mere game mechanic or is there a lore explanation?
It's a thing Undead do.

>Is the ultimate decision to kindle the flame and extent the Age of Fire considered "good"?
Linking the fire represents wanting to hang on to what you have or what's left. Age of dark is throwing it all away in the hopes that whatever comes after is better.
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>>167871521

When you use them properly they basically do.
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>>167872112
IIRC, they said there would be multiple entrance points.
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Pure str and dex weapons reduce build variety.
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>>167869220
>no character creation and no female character so I can't play my own gender
>no invasions
>no jolly co-op
>shitty console exclusive

dropped
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How much luck should you get for a bleed build?
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Ahem.

If you would like to have a slightly BETTER calculation of the "soft caps" for leveling your adaptability, it is actually based on your current level of attunement as well, as forementioned in your reply. However, instead of saying to the aforementioned person to simply follow precalculated soft caps using a formula not designated to be used upon his character is not ideal in any stretch of the imagination. I am very smart.

What you SHOULD do, is take the amount of attunement you would like to have FIRST, and then calculate based upon said circumstances regarding the chosen amount of attunement. One should also take into consideration that the amount of invulnerability frames simply cannot scale linearly, and are increased at certain amounts of agility, as you mentioned.

However, I would agree to the statement that ninety nine agility is a "soft cap" in the sense that after said amount of agility, one does not obtain another invincibility frame in ones roll for a large amount of levels, (6 levels), thus making it ideal to stop at said agility in a low level build. However, with one extra agility one can obtain another invincibility fram for ones backstep.

In order to calculate the amount of adaptability you require to obtain the amount of agility you desire, while ones combined statistics of attunement plus three times of ones adaptability is still below 120, (for example up until 30 adaptability and 30 attunement), one must use the formula as follows:

80 + (Attunement + (3*Adaptability)/4)

What one can immediately take notice of in said formula is that adaptability grants you 0.75 agility and adaptability grants you 0.25 agility until their combined amount using the formula of 1x attunement + 3x adaptability exceeds 120 (after which the amount of agility gained per level in EITHER of said stats is reduced to 1/7 of the original amount gained,
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>>167872303
what does pvp in nioh even look like? is it just duels in an arena or something?
the level design is shit too, it's literally only a soulslike in that it has weapon combat and basic enemies still need to be blocked or dodged.
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>>167872112
I've autistic and have done everything at SL 16 with a +1 weapon, I just invade, low level cop duty and jolly co-op.

Glad I waited before pushing to NG+ to dried finger bait twink invaders now.
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>>167872285
>weapons that can only be used by one specific build type but not another reduce build variety

Were you dropped on your head as a kid?
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>>167872253
no
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>>167872253

they said they haven't finished deciding where they were going to place the entrance, because while they WANT it in the kiln of the first flame, they're concerned that people will be upset about being forced to play that far to enter it.
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>>167872438
In PvE: 40

In PvP: don't bother, go refined and rouge instead.
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>>167872438
99
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>>167872438

Just use carthus rouge.
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>>167872481
It reduces the variety available to his build.
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>>167872618
Yeah was talking about PVE.

>>167872731
Doesn't luck boost rogue's output?
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>>167872438
25
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>refined flamberge
>Scaling stays at C
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>>167872440
>doesn't know how to reply'

Next time just link wikidot instead of trying to sound superior.
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>>167872895
shit has like 220 dmg scaling at +1 with raw
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>>167872895
Absurd base damage though, so its ar is great.
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>>167873053
Yeaa, i was bored because the servers are down so i tried to use as many synonyms as possible to sound obnoxiously "intelligent".

please, since you're already here, tell me the servers will be okay
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Chances of seeing Solaire in the final DLC?
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>>167872820

It doesn't. I tested with 99 luck and 10 luck. It took three hits to bleed a Corvian in both cases.
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>>167872568
>they're concerned that people will be upset about being forced to play through the game to reach end game content

Just once, JUST ONCE, I want a developer to tell these whiny fucktards to shut up so they can focus on the game's quality instead of appeasing.
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>>167873323
that nigga got a metroid on his head he gone foo
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>>167872440
>if you would like to have a slightly BETTER calculation
>as forementioned
>saying to the aforementioned person to simply follow precalculated soft caps
>What you SHOULD do
>upon said circumstances regarding
>One should also take into consideration
>simply cannot scale linearly
>as you mentioned.
>I would agree to the statement
>in the sense that after said amount
>one does not obtain
>thus making it ideal
>one can obtain
>you require to obtain
>while ones combined statistics
>plus three times of ones adaptability
>one must use the formula as follows
>What one can immediately take notice

Does one's typing in the manner of a low-brow twat incline them to believe that one is superior at obtaining the shitposting ideal in the sense of considering their intelligence as contrast to one's peers?
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>>167873076
>>167873083
Is there even a reason so infuse it? I checked and it seems that I'm not getting any extra damage by doing so
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>>167873426

it's more out of concern for people who went into NG+ or haven't played in a while
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>>167873468
>the bell tolls, and ash is reborn
>he found his sun long ago, and now he wants to share it with the world
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>>167872451
PvP in Nioh looks like a marketing gimmick to get dark souls players to play it. It's going to be a tacked-on optional 1v1 arena mode.
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>>167872568
>High level end game enemies
>Entrance not placed in the end game area
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>>167867843

>「IMAGINE DRAGONS」vs 「DEEP PURPLE 」

Place your bets /dsg/.
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Anyone got any ideas for my list of playstyles on an NG1 run? Want to keep track of what I have and haven't done yet. Must apply to all 3 souls games.

Battlemage (Magic Weapon / Left Handed Wand, Low ATTN)
Knight (Plain STR, Medium Armor, Sword & Board)
Pyromancer (Axe, Swamp-style clothes)
Samurai (Katanas)
Sorcerer (High Attunement, Spellcasting focus)
Priest (High Attunement, defensive miracles)
Utility Wizard (Niche Weapon, Magic Shield)
Cleric (High Attunement + Offensive Miracles)
Paladin (Low Attunement, Varied Miracles)
Thief (Daggers, Parrying Focus)
Spartan (Spears)
Medium Knight (Halberdier, Crossbowman)
Tower Knight (Tower shields, heavy armor)
Barbarian (Clubs, few clothing)
Ranger (Longbowman, Shortsword/Longsword)
Finesse (Shortbowman, Piercing/Rapier)
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>Sen's Fortress

jesus fucking christ

did all the turboscrubs stop playing at blighttown or something?

because this is many magnitudes worse than blight town
>>
horse
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>>167873516
I could of swore I got more dmg infusing it with raw but this is on a very low level character, so if you're talking about end-game I have no idea.
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>>167874053
PUSSY
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>>167874049
blight town is famous because it ran at 8fps on consoles and inevitable scrambling deaths to toxic is scarier than quick deaths to traps. Its actually quite a nice area.
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>>167874049
Most of them are plebbits who go there because "funny Sen's funhouse meme and traps xD"
>>
Who is Sen?
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>>167874049
no, it's not
There nothing you can do about poison and stones in your face except running
You can just not get hit by traps and people who complain about them are same people who found mob gank squads in das2 everywhere
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>>167874289
(Orn)s(t)e(i)n
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>>167873596
>playing new dlc, bretty cool so far
>controller rumbles
>Spirit of Sunlight Solaire has invaded

oh fuck
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>>167874296
Its hard to avoid the traps if you havn't been through the area before
If you've been through blight town before poison is literally nothing and you'll usually get everything you want in and out with 3-4 estus used
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>>167873821
>inb4 someone posts that webm of a rtsr yhorms dragon riposte with almost 0 souls on the counter meaning he has already lost
Also it's 「Dark Side of the Moon 」, not deep purple.
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>>167867605

What you don't understand is that I literally play invasions for fun and since I savescum the rewards are completely worthless to me. It's just the experience of invading that's it, there's nothing material to actually be gained (or lost).

If people are boring or lame I can just crystal out at any time. Or if I'm feeling up to it, stay in their world and fuck with them as much as possible to make them feel miserable and prevent them from playing.

I consider use of the giant seed to be the same as a disconnect ragequit. The giant seed symbol you see under your stamina bar? It's actually a D/C symbol, you might not know this. It means the same thing which is that they're a pussy bitch and said "I give up I can't beat you mr. lone invader, please don't hurt me". Miyazaki forgot to send you to back to your world because he's a lazy faggot though so you just crystal out knowing you actually won, metaphorically speaking. Again, not like the "rewards" actually matter or you can lose anything when backup saves exist.

If they don't use a seed though (which at SL70 and below pretty much everyone doesn't surprisingly enough), I'll happily drag a summoner class gank through every fucking mob all the way to the boss and make ample use of my arbalest and greatbow though.

I'm just here to grief, souls PvP isn't competitive it's basically just a troll simulator, but a fantastic one if you go in with that mindset. it comes in a variety of forms, and if I harass them all the way to the boss fog, prevent them from ever leaving the bonfire (and thus they don't get to play the game for as long as they sit there while I watch a movie), or get them to pop a seed, I win. I win if I kill the host too but it's not even the #1 priority.
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>mfw going into the Ringed City with a Hollowslayer GS +5
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>>167874346
>Countless cycles means countless NG's means we get the monster Solaire that solo'd bosses
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>>167874296
There's nothing you can do about poison, but on the other hand poison does very little to you, and the toxic enemies don't respawn
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>>167874296
>Poison
>relevant

literally killed Spiderlady with poison going on

Toxic is the shit you need to watch out for and it's just a matter of running through the area/killing the snipers

on the other hand I literally don't know how to get through the serpent mage shit on the other side of the bridge with the pendulums without A: eating lightning, B: eating a massive axe blade or C: both, and then plunge into the titanite demon's staff
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>>167874519

Oh and in conclusion:

tl;dr you'll enjoy invasions at every SL a lot more if you redefine what "winning" and "fun" mean as far as souls PvP is concerned. If all you're concerned with it whether you can or can't kill the host in every invasion then you're going to have a bad time, because there are situations where you literally can't win (i.e. summoner class host 1v3 so you're by yourself, with seed, with the host literally just running away and never engaging you and resummoning his SL420blazeit phantoms over and over until you're dead).

Sometimes winning isn't killing the host. Sometimes winning is ruining the fun of assholes in glorious retribution. Sometimes it's preventing them from playing for so long that the phantoms crystal out and you snipe the lone host. Sometimes it's making their lives so miserable that the host D/C's or jumps off a cliff because he can't get you to go away.
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>>167874863
walk carefully through the axes with your shield up, then smack it. Or if you have a decent bow or spells you can snipe it from the walkway below while blocking or sidestepping its own lightning.
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i bought nioh

this is such a pain
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>>167875134
Tell me more.
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>>167871828

>1. The gods (Gwyn etc.) caused humans to become undead after dying so they would kindle the flame and the fire would never extinguish to prevent the Age of Dark?

No, but because of their property of coming back they made excellent slaves. But to keep them in line they made them feel all special about being "Chosen" and "you want things back the way they were, right" so that the Age of Fire would be continued.

>2. Why is humanity in general refered to as bad or dark for that matter?

Humanity is Dark by nature, because they're part of the Dark Soul. Gwyn made it look bad because he wanted to keep you in line. It's not inherently bad.

>3. Is the ability to warp between bonfires just a mere game mechanic or is there a lore explanation?

That's because of the Lordvessel. Though, keep in mind everything is created as a game first, then Miyazaki wraps a story around the mechanics. He's already stated he's done that.

>4. Is the ultimate decision to kindle the flame and extent the Age of Fire considered "good"?

Depends what you want. The Age of Fire will give you back your human form and things will go back to the way they were, but it's going to die again eventually, and eventually there will be no more tinder for the flame and the Age of Dark/Age of Hollows will come to pass, depending on what you do with the remnants of the First Flame, either letting them die or taking them for yourself. However, if the flame is allowed to die, it will revive one day somehow, which isn't explained. When it does, everything will start over. That's one of the cycles.
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>>167875012
only a sith deals in absolutes
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>>167871574
It is. You always have to do Occult because there's a text bug and it just becomes the "Occult Knife"

>>167871607
>>167871728
Bandits knife on someone who has never played a souls game (especially doing 4 kings with no resin) who is pumping points into dex and res is conplete ass.

At the end of my playing I would us dual bandit's knives just because I thought it would be cool/fun and I actually won a lot.
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>>167848726
Any tips to Dragonslayer Armor?
To be honest I feel like it's my poor choice of weapon that is fucking me over but I'm stubborn.
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>>167873821

>Inb4 all the Angels have Sulyvahn-face.
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>>167874519
But anon, when I do that, I am griefing invaders, that's the point of it.
I force you to either duel me with a pentalty, or flee.
If you do hide, I don't really care, I just equip obscuring not to be sniped then go watch something, if I was actually trying to progress I'd just get to the boss fog in 1 minute easily, most of times I'm invaded, I'm trying to invade myself or was just walking around the area for fun. If they crystal out, whatever, there's plenty more of fish.

Seed isn't a DC thing at all, it was added because people would grief others all the time in 1 by invading at the start of an area and hiding by a boss or mob even when solo. I used to do that and it's pretty funny since some areas tend to be quite hard to clear without shortcuts. From just didn't consider ganks would use them since they don't think about balancing ganks at all, but if you think a host using seed when he's solo is pussying out, you actually make invaders look like awful players. Don't do that, seed is perfectly fine if a player is solo and I'd even argue it should be a covenant feature to auto enable it but only when you're solo as a way to perfectly balance it. I invade all the time and this mentality seems more like you excusing your inability to deal with a mechanic instead of adapting;

You're actully pretty dumb to think trolling is only for invaders when it's so much easier to do so as a host.
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>>167875312
i miss playing game on pc like dark souls 3 is less of pain

ps4 interface is annoying

also i'm stuck playing for about 100 hours now that i bought i can't stop
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>>167874574
Same. Hollowlsayer GS is best GS
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>>167875519
Irithyll Rapier.

Poke and dodgeroll whenever needed. Watchout for the slam.
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>>167875519

Avoid its attacks. Hit it while leaving room to avoid attacks. Repeat until one of you can no longer do so.
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>>167875519
Hit it until he dies? Don't use lighting?
Seriously, how it's even possible to have problems with das 3 bosses when they can't even punish you for your mistakes and you have inane stamina regen and can drink estus fast as fuck
Only first phase of nameless can be hard, and not because of mechanics
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>this is a dagger
Isn't that kinda big to be considered a dagger? It looks more like a thrust sword to me.
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>>167874519
>make a small post of only one sentence pointing out people who duel just want to get it over with or are the easiest to beat
>1 hour later get a guy sperging all over it

It wasn't even that interesting as a post
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Can someone post the BB phantom range webm?
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>>167875759
>Don't use lighting?
Yeah I thought that might be it, I'm using Dragonslayer Spear.
To be honest I've had no issues with bosses before this point, I killed Dancer and Pontiff both with first tries but I died like 5 times to dragonslayer armor already. Oceiros was bitch to hit with spears because of his thin long limbs but he wasn't hard, seems like spear is kinda shitty choice for this fight.
>>167875734
Thanks imma try that.
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>>167876185
You should also try to summon Eygon if possible. He can tank for you and it would really help. He's in the next building nearby before the fog iirc.
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>>167875759
I feel like the people who shit on estus speed in three don't keep in mind how aggressive the enemies and bosses can be. Imagine having to face pontiff with DaS1 chug speed.
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>>167875519
It's attacks are heavily telegraphed, the combos are obvious, and as far as I recall it doesn't have any fast poking abilities. Literally just a matter of taking the time to learn what its moves are.
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>>167875759
>when they can't even punish you for your mistakes
This is just patently wrong. Bosses in 3 don't give you an eternity to run around healing like bosses back in 1 did.
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>>167876023
BFD = big fucking dagger
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>>167876316
Pontiff phase 2 is very slow though. Also, the church is wide.
A good way to see how slower estus would fare in 3 is to only have blue one and attune heal spells. Sure, it's way slower than 1's estus, but you realise most bosses have clear openings
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>>167874519
>>167875012
This fucking guy gets it.

The mere act of invading is itself the act of an asshole. Making the other guy mad is the entire name of the game. Even moreso if you go in as a purple and kite all those mobs back to the host.
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>>167875519
Just walk around and watch what he does for awhile. Learn the tells. He is actually really easy.
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>>167875519

One of the easiest bosses in the game
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>>167876443
But that's a sword anon
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>>167876429
das3
>Finished looking at their combo
>drinked estus while standing right next to him
Das
>Finished looking at their combo
>If you didn't put distance to drink estus, you will get axe in the face while drinking
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Is there any point to have a lower level character? Like, something at sl40 at +4 weaponry, for example.

I've got 4 sl120 characters and I'd like some variety, but I'm not sure what a good lower level build would be.
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>>167875576
>inb4 Sulyvahn is actually all the angels
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>>167876692
http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/black-flamestone-dagger

it's literally a dagger and can be power stanced with other daggers but is longer than the short sword.
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>>167876876
>Das
>combo
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>>167873960
Varangian (2h axe, chain/leather) armor.
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So has there been any more sources of info or are we still stuck with just vaati's shit and the video that got taken down?
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>>167876883
For being an asshole to people trying to get through Farron Keep and Carthus.
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>>167876023
Wait till you see the Corvian Greatknife.
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>>167848726
So is the ringed city this or what?
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>Wanted to get the cool ninja backflip ring
>Mess up trying to backstab the ninja bodyguard and die

If I get absolution and rejoin the covenant will the Shiva guy still sell me stuff?
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>>167877280
That's a concept image from pre-DaS3, but that resembles the Dreg Heap part of the DLC.
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>>167877280
Kinda yeah.
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>>167877280
it was a concept of the endgame, nothing more
those screenshots were never intended to be released for public
ringed city looks extremely peaceful on screenshots
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>>167873507
Nah, i was just bored so i wrote it up since the damn ds2 servers are down

what i meant was, to find out how much adaptability you need, all you have to do is say the amount of agility you want and attunement you want and put it into this formula

Adaptability=((Agility-80)-(0,25*Attunement))/0,75

So if you chose knight and you have 4 attument and you don't want to get 10 for any buffs or anything, and you also want to have 99 agility, you'd just put this into your windows calculator

(99-80-(0,25*4))/0,75

And get 24.

But if you wanted to have 10 attunement, to make room for like a weapon buff or something, you'd do the same thing but put in

(99-80-(0,25*10))/0,75

And get 22 adaptability.
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>Want to start new data
>Always do heavy weapons build
>Can't decide what I want to try out

I'm not a fan of magic etc, and it's been a while since I played
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>>167876876
Only Capra Demon, Gwyn and MAYBE Artorias have a tendency to punish healing, and the first one only because of its dog host. Perhaps Kalameet does it too, but I actually have never actually fought it.
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>>167867909
Generally speaking the difficulty level of From Soulsborne games is much higher than that of the base games, and they're usually tiered for higher-leveled characters as well.

I don't think the base game of DS3 was particularly easy when contrasted with the earlier entries except maybe Bloodborne thpugh.
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>>167877280

Basically, ringed city is just cut content

>>167877450

We literally havent seen the ringed city yet
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>>167877526
go for like a speedy dex build with something like a longsword, or katana, or curved sword, and see if you like it. And have a lot of endurance and adaptability so you are really dodgy and speedy and shit, yeah!
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>>167877280

Thsts the ruin capital
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>>167877450
>This city is peaceful, its inhabitants kind.
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>>167877636
>We literally havent seen the ringed city yet
we saw it on half of DLC footage
it's a beautiful city which looks to be well-kept
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>>167874519
You have quite a lot of nerve to accuse seed users to be playing the game wrong when you admit to savescumming in the same post.

Unless it's in ds2 because soul memery
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>>167877636
Yes we did.
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>>167877872

Its entirely possible that part of the city is intact and the other half a ruinous wasteland.
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>>167875507
It's not just Occult, every upgrade other than normal replaces Bandit with the upgrade type.

Chaos knives are the real motherfuckers.
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>Hodrick fucking oneshot me with his stance R2
shieeet
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>>167878002
It looks like a pleasant place.
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>>167877872
>>167878002
>Swords of Avowal on top of the towers
Ringed City is Londor, right ?
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>>167878102
ThE ShAcKlEs oF tHe GoDs ArE fRaGiLe
*holds flamberge*
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>>167878182
Could be
Or it could be Londor just jacked some artifacts from Pygmyland because the midgets won't help them cast the world in dark.
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>>167878182
Ringed city is not Londor, but there will be more than just Ringed City in DLC.
We already have Earthen Peak confirmed.
A good part of Londor will probably be included.
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Whats a good spear or Halberd weapon?

Sick of shortswords and Katanas
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>>167878182
No, it's actually seems to be way more hilarious.
Ringed City is fucking ancient. It's from the Age of Gods, and Gwyn personally gifted it to pygmies, most likely because he was afraid of people who could hulk into Manus-tier abominations.
Londor was established way later.
So Londor is merely trying to use the symbol of ringed city to fuel their agenda.
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>>167876883
lower level pvp in DS3 is actually better than higher level pvp because stamina is limited enough that people can't roll or R1 spam as much
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>>167878408
Great Mace.
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>>167878408
Winged Spear is bread and butter.
Spear for less weight but blunt R2 (good against armored enemies).
Halberd for looking fabulous.
Vouge for playing Chivalry Medieval Warfare.
Pike for hitting kids out of your lawn without standing up.
Dark Knight Glaive for ruining someone's life and looking cool.
Iurex Gundyr's glaive for being even cooler.
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>>167878378

>Ringed City isn't a name but a description, clearly
>Londor is where all of this shit seems to be stemming from
>Haven't been there yet but we're damn sure we're going there.
>All things associated with Londor are located there
>Londor shares the naming conventions of the Gods' cities from the ancient times
>It's not Londor

Okay.
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just saw that there's gonna be another DLC. wasnt ashes of ariandel supposed to be the last one ?

should i play ashes by the way ? i bought it on release but kinda left it to rot in the library after the first area was snow and fucking wolves again.
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>>167878617
Thanks
Are many of those great for late game and NG+ and up?

Is the Winged Knight one any good too?
Also what one is Vouge?
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>>167878853

>Thinking there's only 1 DLC when there's a season pass

Okay.
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>>167878928
"you mustve remembered that wrong"
"yeah true thanks"
"no problem"
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>>167878754
Londor is just a New Londo, a human city that fell into the Abyss and got corrupted, then sisters of Londor came and established their Church.

Ringed City is a city of gen 1 humans, literally an ancient containment board gifted to them by Gwyn himself and situated at the very end of a world. It also seems to be associated with dragons and fire, both of which are alien for Londor.

It's far more likely that Londor is just a bunch of edgy wannabes and Ringed City is the real deal.
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>>167878924
>Are many of those great for late game and NG+ and up?
I have been using the Winged Spear for the entire game. It's sadly too slow to combo efficiently against NPCs, but it's great against beasts.

>Is the Winged Knight one any good too?
I cannot answer you, sadly. I only tried the halberd, the winged spear, the spear and the dark knight glaive.
They all look cool and I love polearms anyway.
>Also what one is Vouge?
The one that isn't in the game. But you do get a pitchfork if you want to go peasant.
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So, SoTFS servers are kill?
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Making a new character to bide time till DLC, 5 names him.
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What's the best level for build to be used in and around Farron Keep/Cathedral, 30 +4?
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>>167879206
NiohIsBetter
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>>167879206
KekimusMaximus
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>>167879206
Romero Juarez
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What do they mean by this?
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>>167879084
Ringed City is a literal descriptor, and so is "at the end of the world"
The Ringed city is the ring of twilight at the edge of the bubble of light created by the fire, which because of the kindling cycle and the fire being so weak now is deep in the dark and covered in a thick layer of ashy dregs of civilizations.

All the locations we've seen so far in screenshots are just various parts of the Dreg Heap.
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>>167849331
>have another kid that you actually finally love
>he either doesn't exist or you kill him when someone is fighting you
Oceiros deserves better, his theme is also the best in the game.
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>>167879315
>Ringed City is a literal descriptor, and so is "at the end of the world"
Yes, and look what is behind the statue. You see anything aside from endless sky?
This is the end of a world.
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Looks like gravity doesn't really matter in the Dreg Heap.
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>>167879513
I see light, the closer to the ringed city you get the less of that there'll be. Thats just a part of the dreg heap overlooking a giant drop >>167879547
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>>167879547
The world is already too fucked to bother with laws of physics.
Also
>end of earthen peak
>there's a passage with fucked up physics again
>only this time it looks legitimately cool
sasuga Miyazaki
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>>167879315
We have footage of the Ringed City, anon.
You enter the city immediately after killing the bat demon. There's a key item and a cutscene, and we have the descriptions confirming that they bridge to the city after the bat.

The Dreg Heap is a short area. It only covers the Grand Archives section shown in the gameplay trailer and the Earthen Peak section, which is just a sprint through a toxic swamp with a curse/cover gimmick. The Heap is just those two sections, ending in the bat boss. There are only 3 bonfires in it.
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What the hell, I was promised a qt3.14 loli. Where is she?
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>>167879307
>that "fashion"
What did you mean by it?
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>>167879130
Thanks, mainly just looking for something else, gonna be playing through from the start with a few friends

Did the normal Halberd do you well until you found the others?
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>>167879658
you need to save her first
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>>167879307
I guess the tree trunk looked like a blunt to them?
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What is the best damage I can get out of fist weapons in DS1?
Infusing a caestus/bone fist? or something else?
I've been using a blessed caestus for some time now but even at 40 faith its doing fuck all for damage.

Really struggling with O&S, but thats more my problem than the weapon's, but its certainly not helping.
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>>167879739
Oh, I didn't know that.
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>>167879681
Yeah. It behaves like a spear, so it's easier to use in corridors compared to a spear, but it's still a bit less useful against humanoids opponents because they recover slightly faster than you can poke.

But against beasts, spears are divine. And against NPCs in DaS2, it was perfect.
I just used the winged spear because I played all of DaS2 with the spear so I was attached to it, but I'm thinking of replaying the game with the halberd. I like how it looks like.
Halberd-tan is mah waifu.
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>>167879658
>>167879863
best girl awaits thee
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In hadn't realized it before, but the CGI intro cinematic shows the 3 lords of Cinder waking up in their graves in the Dreg Heap. The bell must have literally dragged their kingdoms back out of the Heap and into the living world when it revived them
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>>167879084

>dragons and fire, both of which are alien for Londor.

Straight up headcanon with no foundation.
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>>167879858
The best you can get is normal +15 with 40/40 str/dex and gold pine resin, after that is magic or divine +10 with 40/40/40 all scaling stats. But it'll still do shit damage, other than that all upgrade paths are pretty comparable.

Fists are not for enemies that can't be riposted.
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>>167879983
How do you know it's in the Dreg Heap?
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>>167879883
>Yeah. It behaves like a spear, so it's easier to use in corridors compared to a spear
Compared to a GLAIVE, dammit. The character uses overhead swings with the glaive, so in corridors, you'll often hit the walls.
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>>167879987
There's zero Londor items that are connected to either fire or dragons.
Now in Ringed City there's literal dragon knights who employ fire swords.
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>>167879883
Thanks, think I'll stick with that then until I get Gundyrs

Is Quality the best thing to go for with it i'm guessing?
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>>167880203
You can see pieces of matching terrain in the background.
Aldrich wakes up in the Bat boss arena, for example.
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>>167880150
That's on a caestus sorry I forgot to mention, max upgraded it'll always do more damage than the bone fist unless you're a pure strength build, which is outirght worse than a quality build with a caestus.
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>>167880258
gundyrs is pure str
save points for vit
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>>167880258
Depends from your build. Refined, sharp or heavy.
But I'm not the best person to ask that, I can just offer advice on what spears are available, their movesets, and how cool they look.
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>>167880356
>mfw gundyrs halberd WA is so easy to parry
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>>167880150
>>167880303
Oh well looks like I need to CE my stats around again. I think I was relying on miracles too much anyway so its better if I avoid it.

Thanks
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Aight, which of you glorious faggots is invading as Friede in front of Crystal Sage? Because that shit is hilarious.
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Is there anything actually weak to poison in 3? I used it extensively in DeS~DaS2, but in 3 and BB, I found it to be rather useless.
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>>167880232

Exactly, so the theory is totally without a leg to stand on.

Also who the hell was saying yesterday that the Ashen Ones aren't Undead? The opening of the fucking game literally calls them "Nameless, accursed Undead."
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>>167880282
This area is on the background when Yhorm is stabbing the ground I think
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>>167880362
>>167880356

Ah alright, guess I'll just play along till I find what I like best for them
I can always Respec when I want to
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>>167875637

Actually that's another good point I didn't really touch upon but already understand. I was talking about when it's like a 1v3 and they pop a seed in response to you trying to even the odds with mobs over and over, as if they expect you to just straight-up 1v3 them especially when they have overleveled phantoms and a mage/pyro or two.

Your thing is more involved with what I term "pro" gank squads or "pro" lone hosts (like the guys who fastroll and run/roll away forever while the invaders friendly fire on each other and get hit by silver knight arrows and shit), which is that you're doing the same thing from the host's side instead of the invaders. In those cases I have a mutual respect, like the seed sign becomes a "hey mr. pro invader, we're trying to do the same thing and I'm just trying to catch scrub invaders, just wanted to let you know so you can leave and go invade someone else".

So that's fine by me. Also I don't think a solo host using seed is pussying out, I basically will deal with a gank or seed but not both. If you're 1v3 and you need a seed, you're a pathetic piece of shit, end of story.
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>>167880150
int and faith scaling softcap at 50 so you could go higher on those divine and magic ones
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>>167854876
>Soldering Iron
Anyone try using this in pvp? how long does the anti-estus last?
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>kill a downscaled phantom in full havels with tears on at SL50
>get 500k souls

How fucking high of a level WAS that guy????
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>>167880650
Oh, right, Rosaria, I completely forgot.

Anyway, yeah, just pick what you like. I can't decide so I tend to use winged spear, halberd, broadword, coiled sword, and demon fists at random. And sometimes even the sellswords double swords.
But the funniest weapons are DEX based (WHIPS).

>>167880802
That reminds me I'll have to try using that iron. And the pitchfork. And the pickaxe. And get a wooden mallet from the workers in the undead settlement.
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>>167880735
>int and faith scaling softcap at 50
You're correct in this case, but not in all cases. Int/Fth scaling for M/E/D/O infused weapons is 50, but for naturally magic weapons the softcap is still 40. Catalysts and talismans all softcap at different points, I remember Logan's was 45 and TCC was 50 but that's al.
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>>167879668
I was trying to get as heavy as possible, because i thought i needed to fat roll into it or something
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>>167879983
>>167880203
>>167880282
>>167880647

It's hard to say if it is. That said, the lands of the Lords of Cinder are transitory, i.e. not permanently fixed in place. What might be assumed is that all of them were in the Dreg Heap, and their being Lords of Cinder allowed a recreation of those lands when the latest Lord of Cinder Linked the Fire. WHO the last one was is debatable. We don't necessarily know the order. Ludleth is an outlier for a Lord of Cinder, though. What also isn't explained is why Gwyn wasn't brought back.
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>>167880802
>>167880878
It only reduces estus healing by about 20%, and the duration is something like 15 seconds. Not worth using at all, really.
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>>167881048
That's good to know for the Moonlight Greatsword build I'm planning, though I'll probably go up to 50 for dragon breath anyways
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>>167881106
>What also isn't explained is why Gwyn wasn't brought back
He was, though. He's in the SoC. If the bell brought back absolutely everyone as separate lords, then all your previous characters would also be back. Maybe some of them were too far gone to be cooked again.
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>all these password summons at low levels
Disgusting
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Rate my fashion
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>>167881367
I'M GOING TO COMMIT A CRIME
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if the soldering iron actually prevented estus healing for a few seconds would it actually be viable?
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>>167879983
MIYAZAKIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>167881464
2/10
I bet you wore the fallen knight set in DS3 and thought it was cool too
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>>167881048
With catalysts it goes
<28 oocalice ivory
>28 starting catalyst/beatrice's/izalith
>40 logan's or tin crystalization if you don't need ammo
I'm not sure exactly when the softcaps are but thats when its time to move to a new catalyst. I'm also not sure when Manus' scaling kicks in properly but its always the best for dark sorceries because of strength scaling.
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>>167881464
We're pretty similar, you and I.

Also, what's the deal with this fellow? Is it an actual NPC or just a docile enemy?
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>>167881686
I said softcaps for the catalysts themselves anon, not the points where each catalyst is stronger than others.
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>>167881723
kill him with your dagger
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>>167881723
It's a heart, leave it be.
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>>167881812
Does it even matter? The softcap for a catalyst is essentially when it becomes outdamaged by another one with no drawbacks, Logan/TCC/Manus are the only ones who's actually statistical caps matter.
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>>167878182
>>167878509
>>167878378

Is Londor an actual physical place at this point? It seems like everyone important related to Londor isn't in Londor. Also there's the whole "make Londor whole again" saying which seems to imply something happened to it and they want you to become the hollow king and reestablish it.
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>>167881907
It matters in the situations you just listed, dorkus.
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>>167881912
Londor broke apart into many pieces is what i assume. The land is also moving at all times so it's possible we will never see londor.
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>>167881468
kill yourself
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>>167881362

Technically everyone's spirit is in the SoC. It's the combination of the souls of all the previous Lords of Cinder.
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>>167882010
Well yeah and you mentioned the caps for those, Manus' is also 50 but it has lower magadjust on non dark than TCC.
I was just filling in after the "I remember Logan and TCC but that's all" line.
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>>167881912
Londor is the place where people who come from londor come from.
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>>167882182
>chose drake pussy over moon boipucci
Nameless King a shit
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>>167881723
It drops a pyromancy, kill it
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>>167881912

Remember, the lands within the entirety of the Souls games are transitory. Linking the Fire probably rips pieces out of the Dreg Heap and places them into a new dimension for the new Lord of CInder. It's entirely possible that the Londor people want the pieces that were taken away by Linking the Fire brought back to where they belong, in the heap. Everything that is there should stay there.
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>>167854943
>wearing thorns under your dress
mah nigga
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>>167881912
>Is Londor an actual physical place at this point?
There should be a reason so many londor pilgrims are travelling for their final death.
The place most likely doesn't exist anymore, there's just a group of Hollows trying to achieve ultimate dream of Kaathe and bring back the city.
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>>167882348
This lines up with my own theory about the lord of hollows ending, where it's basically permanently freezing the clock at 11:59 so the hollows can live in peace in the dreg heap with a little bit of twilight left.
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>>167882179
>I was just filling in after the "I remember Logan and TCC but that's all" line
Right, sorry.

>Manus' is also 50 but it has lower magadjust on non dark than TCC
Technically incorrect. Manus' magic magadjust is lower overall than TCC, but dark spells get extra phys magadjust from catalysts with Str and/or Dex scaling. Manus Cat has high Str scaling softcapping at 50 for dark spells, which is what makes it better for dark than TCC.

If you haven't been slinging dark spells with 50str/50int, you were not a dark mage.
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Souls shills finally baited me into trying For Honor. Is it even anything like Souls? Downloading the Beta now.
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>>167882564

Long ago in a distant land, I, The Furtive Pygmy, the shape shifting master of darkness, unleashed an unspeakable evil. But a foolish Undead warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in time, and flung him into the future where my evil is law. Now the fool seeks to return to the past and undo the future that is The Furtive Pygmy.
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>>167882735
literally nothing like it in any way other than being a weapon combat game. If you've played mount and blade or chivalry its a lot more like those.
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>>167882783
MAAANUUUS!
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>>167882783
Gotta get back, back to the past, Amnesiac Lapp!
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>>167881602
not that guy but ever since peeve said the helm looks like a derpy duck i can never take that set seriously.

it's true that it never gets old when you see someone with the complete set of full fallen knight armor, irithyll SS or dork sword, and grass crest shield, though.
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What is down there?
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>>167882982
Repeating textures
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>>167882982
tender handjob from a tree girl
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>>167883064
>>167883064
>>167883064
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>>167883060
That sounds ____painful
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>>167879513
So there will be an NPC invader in the boss area?
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>>167883087
Welp. Which one was first?

>>167883105
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>>167882982
Fuck off faggot jump down yourself
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>>167883138
It's ghost army grey giant summons.
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>>167883087
This one was made first, use it first.
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>>167882564
>>167882606

It is mentioned in the opening that the Pilgrims of Londor are traveling north specifically to Lothric, where all of the lands of the Lords converge because of the legend of the Ash that will arise when the Lords abandon their thrones. Lothric knows all about the legend. So Londor is implied to be south of Lothric, exists on the same plane, which would also mean it's not at the Dreg Heap. It's clear their purpose there is simply to die, which will cause them to turn either into Pilgrim Butterflies, or into Angels. Why would Londor send Pilgrim Butterflies and Angels to Londor? Why do the Pilgrims seek to help the Ashen One, only for their transformed state to want to kill the Ashen One? What the hell do the Butterflies and Angels even DO?
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>>167882963
Fallen Knight + Dark Sword
Gold Hemmed + Lightning Spear
What is the retard build for DeS/DS2?
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>>167883267
>frog-helmed archers made of fire
Why?
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>>167883310
DaS2 was good ol' drangarl with the GUTS sword
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>>167883310
Replace GH and lightning spear with a poorly minmaxed giantdad, at this point all the shitters playing das1 are obsessed with only memes.
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>>167883459
Gold hemmed prepatch was good for its weight though. Thats why so many retards flocked to it
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>>167883305

>which will cause them to turn either into Pilgrim Butterflies, or into Angels.

actually vaati stated that in the DLC the pilgrims are sprouting large grotesque tree-like flesh protrusions that control the angels.

londor could view death in the biblical sense of spiritual ascension into heaven, in which case the angels could be religious, "demonic" beings there to defend the immobile pilgrims while they "hatch"
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