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>baited by leakposters
>>167717201

>1.10 patch notes:
http://steamcommunity.com/games/374320/announcements/detail/261608645322016043

>Ringed City DLC stuff
Shills will post detailed information on February 8, ignore fake "leaks" until then
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igomOLwqsV0 [Embed]
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/rWJvh1g3
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USURP THE FLAME, GUYS
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CHOOSE DARK AGE

DO IT FOR THEM
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>gaycasting and and tumblefaggotry patched
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>>167748709
Dark Souls 3 is dead. Don't buy the dlcs.
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>>167748851
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>>167748709
SOON
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>>167748851
But what if the dlc gives us something even better?
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>>167748851
Too late, bought the season pass :^)
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>>167748932
damn it dude what a waste of cash
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LET THE SCISSORS BE GOOD FROM
JUST THIS ONCE LET AN UGS BE META
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KNOCK KNOCK
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>no more fair lady
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>>167748964
I have a job so eh, not so much.
But I have to say, I'm pretty disappointed. Sir Vinhelm could be an excellent NPC, but they killed him in under 10 minutes of gameplay, and that's just 1 problem about this DLC.
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>>167748964
Well half of it was, or maybe like a quarter since the weapons from AoA were as good as one would expect from the pay2win era. The second DLC might be great, and even if it isn't it'll probably also add some cool weapons. That short sword that turns into a magic rapier looks amazing.
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>>167749053
>Phantoms can now gank Vilhelm
This is how you know they've lost the plot
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>>167749053
>>167749056
Miyazaki didn't really want to make this game and it shows.
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>>167749056
The only good weapons to come from AoA were Milwood Axe, Crow Quills, Parting Flame, and Onyx Blade. The others were just for fun.
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>>167749167
>forgetting Skill Sabre
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>>167749197
who are you quoting dude?
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>>167749197
Alright, the only good weapons to come from AoA were Follower's Sabre, Milwood Axe, Crow Quills, Onyx Blade, and Parting Flame.

The axe and quill would've been great if people used them as an excuse for buff hybrids, but of course they didn't because refined is better than anything.
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>>167749167
>Not using the claws
>Not using the sabre
>Not using the ethereal oak shield

You need to mess around with some of those items a bit more Anon.
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>>167749262
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>>167749280
The claws are a one-gimmick toy. They're fun, but they aren't good.

I forgot about the fucking meta shield, though. It's just so brown it blends into everything.
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>>167749140
It's not like that's such a big deal when people who didn't want to fight him could just poison him and run away. Vilhelm won't heal if you're not near him.
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>>167749140
Oh, it's Vilhelm. Didn't bother to check first.

Yeah, phantoms ganking NPCs as well... Lot's of problems on this DLC.

>>167749161
Still, he had months to make something decent.
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>>167749363
Programming something decent in months is impossible without reusing shit. Do you know how long it takes to code a game from the ground up? There's a reason why yearly releases tend to be more or less indistinguishable from the previous games.
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Im running a Dark Miracle build. D.Gnaw + Dark Warden blades bleed like motherfucker. Sunless Talisman + Lifehunt scythe is a nice fuckyou in the face for trading blows.

Its a shitty build with ToD and a spare slot for any miracle fuckery, Emit force or heal etc...but its comfy.

For PvE jesus fuck Onyx Greatsword hits 760ish AR with dark clutch ring and self buff. Hell the clutch ring makes Deep Longsword+9 like 511 ish dmg at 40/40.

Leaks when tho?
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>>167749363
I like how Bloodborne did it. There's one NPC your phantoms can gank with you, but if you kill him early you're only denying yourself content later on.
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Where the fuck are the DLC leaks ?
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>>167749343
>They're fun, but they aren't good.

I disagree, I think the claws are great. They do rely on rouge though.

IMO the "fun but bad" label belongs on the follower's javelin. That said, using lightning javelins as an alternative to lightning spears is surprisingly effective.
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>>167749536
>>167749565
>calling planned information release "leaks"
Few hours from now, assuming those fatass streamers will ever get out of bed before noon.
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>>167749565
The fat fucks that had access to it are probably still asleep.
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>>167748709
so if I have high faith but no faith scaling on my staff it won't add damage to affinity?
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>>167749536

I know the Clutch rings get penalty on PvP, but does the dmg boost to dark weapons stays active?
>760ar with buff Onyx Blade with Dark clutch ring.
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What's the deal with Mornes GH? Why the WoG damage varies from 600-ish to four digit numbers? Can it hit people twice? If yes, then how?
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>>167749262
Considering there were 15 weapons in AoA, 1 out of 3 isn't too bad. Hopefully this one has good spells though, and hopefully the hybrid weapons are good shit.

Considering the access point isn't available until the literal end of the game whereas AoA is super early in the beginning, I hope they use it as an excuse to put some really sweet shit in it.
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>>167749690
Your catalyst determines how your spells scale, not the spells themselves. Izalith Staff is the only one that gives Int+Fth scaling to Affinity, Great/Deep Soul, and Dark Edge. Softcap is technically 45int/45fth, but you can easily make do with 40/40.
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>>167749748
The acces point is already known?
Where is it?
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>>167749826
so only that ugly 20 ft long pole scales with both?

time to delete my character
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>>167749712
Damage boost to weapons is halved in PvP, defense drops are not. By the way, Onyx Blade's buff is pure fire damage.

>>167749842
Visible in trailer, same as the previous DLCs for previous souls games. Pilgrim in Flameless Shrine.
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Reminder that DS2 > DS3 > DS1 > Bloodborne > DeS in terms of PvP fun
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>>167749814
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>>167749721
>ass crest
fashion discarded
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>>167749905
>By the way, Onyx Blade's buff is pure fire damage.

Ah so the dmg boost I see with Dark Clutch ring is to the built in dark dmg of the sword?

Shit senpai didnt know it was a 3 split dmg weapon
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>>167749885
For dark sorceries yes, and assuming the DLC doesn't have something new. For dark miracles (lol) you get Sunless Talisman and Caitha's Chime, and of course there's always pyromancy.

Keep in mind though, even at the full 45/45 a dark build doesn't even hit three digits extra damage than pure 60int or 60fth. You only get 50 more on average, and the only real "advantage" they get is the ability to use all dark spells instead of only 3 or 4. And that's without getting into the logistics issues of needing 3 different catalysts that each cast 3 different spells and need different rings when you only have 5 spell slots, 4 ring slots, and 2 hands.
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>>167749814
>9999
>Not 2814
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>>167750071
Yeah, that's why the AR looks so high. It's only pretending. The fire buff is at least enough to where it doesn't get raped by defense thresholds though, so it's still good.
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no drawfags around? i have a great idea for a doodle but negative drawing skill
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>>167750280
what's the idea
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>bought ds3 and season pass
>doesnt include dlc ost
???
also the ost link for DS2 is broken in the pastebin, anyone able to help?
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>>167750446
It should be there. Check it's been installed in steam. If so it should be in the games folder.
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>>167750441
each of the 4 knights (optionally as teens) with a smaller/cuter version of their animal sigil. so, artorias would have a puppy, ciaran a bumblebee, gough a pigeon or something similar and ornstein a kitten
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>>167750495
i mean i got the base game OST but i dont have the tracks from Ashes of Ariandel
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>>167750560
That's not great at all
Your idea is generic and terrible
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>>167750446
>>167750495
Wait, we get DS3 OST with the Season Pass?
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>>167750071
Unofficial patch replaces the 150 fire with 85 dark because the guy is almost decent at game design.
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>>167750639
was in my list at release
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>>167750616
if it's generic why has no-one done it yet?
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>>167750746
Because it's also terrible
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>>167750746
Probably because the idea by itself is kinda boring, and would need to be part of something else before it was interesting enough to do.
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>3 more sunlight medals to go...
Well, farming almost all 30 in 3 days wasn't that bad
Shame there won't be reason to play with people after getting sunlight spear
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>>167750837
why didnt you just invade as a sunbro?
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>>167750746
Everyone's done it.
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>>167750885
He's talking about DS1.
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>>167750885
das2, pretty sure das3 doesn't have sunlight spear as reward for this and you could just help with friede to get all in one evening
And I got another one, guarding dragon is still popular spot after all
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>>167750837
Are you fucking retarded? I farmed 30 in not even one hour
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>>167751060
Are you fucking retarded? I farmed 30 in not even 45 minutes.
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Only three more hours, guys.

What will you do if leaker-fag was right?
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>>167750885
Probably because he isn't playing 3
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>>167751159
4 knights are all shit save for Gough.
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>>167751120
>>167751060
Pathetic, it took me 20 minutes to get all 30 on vordt and dancer
Would be even faster if hosts didn't die to dancer
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>>167751120
>>167751060
>>167750837
>tfw you only start covenant whoring a month after release, every thread is filled with bitter shitter babby whining about proof farming, and you get 30 proofs in a single night by dicking about the Undead Settlement, five of them in a single back to back invasion fuckfest
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>Scott King Jundifer wasn't invited to play the DLC
Will he ever recover?
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>>167751295

I like Artorias.
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>>167751345
He'll make a shitty excuse and say he doesnt need the early-access advantage to be good with the new gear or something like that
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>>167751345
>implying I give a shit about streamer drama

If they want to be attention whores they better be giving me lapdances. I don't care what they do with their lives outside that.
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>>167748709
I swear this pic is my current low level PvP status.

>using Winged Knight Halberd and Dark Hand (not that it's ever come in handy)
>wearing a mix of Lothric Knight, Knight and Nameless Knight sets
>invade as a Watchdog
>people just barely tickle me, even with stuff like Battleaxes
>whack them back for a chunk of health
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>>167748964
Not him but
>could buy the game physically with some shitty steelbook
>or for same price could get it and season pass online

Pretty easy decision.
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>>167751423
Vit investment at low levels is the true meta.
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>>167751423
>Dark Hand (not that it's ever come in handy)
It probably deals more damage than a +2 winged knight halberd.
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>>167751335
I still don't know how it's possible for people to complain about concord farming when all you need is letting your game to run one night and you will get enough thanks to the gank squads
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It's been a while. What's the status on dark magic? Is leveling both stats and using the hybrid catalysts still a pitiful boost in damage?
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>>167751545
>being the reason why hosts don't equip WoB
And you can go choke on your own shit.

>>167751551
>status
Mostly bad. A new trick was found with Twisted Wall of Light that makes dark sorcery funny, though.

>Is leveling both stats and using the hybrid catalysts still a pitiful boost in damage?
Yep. Only benefit is access to all dark magic instead of a couple.
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>>167751545
The game tracks blueberry wins and losses. If you get summoned and lose a bunch, you get punted way down to the bottom of a huge queue. Right at launch, it counted failed potato connections as losses, which they rectified later, but everyone claimed it did nothing because they were still using dumpster-listed characters.

If you had a good connection and were decently skilled, you'd wind up exponentially rolling in back to back summons.
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>>167751510
It's a +4 anon, are you that bad at the game that you can't get a +4 weapon by the time you become a Watchdog?

That aside though, yes I'm pretty sure it does more damage than two-handing the Halberd as I do, however it is split damage with a fucking abysmally short range. WKH R1 outranges fucking everything, so I'm often just clipping them for like 100+ damage without even having to trade blows.
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>>167751159
>Gough not the tallest
>Ciaran with a rapier
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>>167751368
Everyone does, but that doesn't make him not shit.

Arty's a mook and you did everything he's famous for but better because you walked away from it.
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>>167751624
What secret is that?
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>Can't open my inventory while that cottish cuck blabbers
FOR WHAT PURPOSE
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>>167751661
That image was made way, way before Artorias of the Abyss came out.
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>>167751725
Cast Affinity while in its firing range, follow immediately with TWoL: Affinity bounces fucking everywhere and comes in at your target from all directions.

Cast TWoL, then follow immediately with Great Deep Soul: GDS rockets somewhere out of sight, then comes back at the host from a random direction at top speed.

Legitimately fun.
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>>167751661
That image was made before AotA was released
I don't think anyone was expecting Gough to be a literal giant
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>>167751624
People don't equip wob because unlike das2 this covenant doesn't has rewards
It would be fine, if they allowed another way to farm ears, but A-team was too retarded to include blue orb in the game
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>>167751819
DaS2 had the opposite problem where hosts didn't equip wob because blues were too busy using their orbs.
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>>167751545
>equip WoB while farming random mobs
>get invaded
>get a blue
>they're afk
>invader just wanders over and murders them for free sippies when they're low from chugging

Every time.
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>>167751804
Wut? Any videos or webms of that?
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>>167751735
A FLAYME ALIGHTETH
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>>167751936
flayme'st al'ghtethsthee*
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>>167751919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlHp7IqOsB4&feature=youtu.be&t=86

I've used it against someone once, it's absolute hell to dodge at long range.

It's basically the same thing that was in DaS1 with the silver pendant, except that got patched out so this probably will too.
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>>167750085
>tfw no rings that boost dark spells (all of them)
>tfw no talisman that can cast all dark spells, but only dark spells
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>>167751936
I wouldn't be half as mad if he wasn't gargling cock throughout all his dialogue
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>>167752064
>l-londor dlc, right guys?

Please, From. That's literally all they need. One ring, and one fucking catalyst.

Some spells would be nice too, though.
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The fuck is up with all the thous and thees btw? When half the characters don't do it, all the ones that do just come off as pretentious
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>>167751919
>>167752024
Also, yes you can cast Affinity, TWoL, and GDS in a row to do both at once.
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>>167752149
There was that deep sludge ring/effect that supposedly removes your head that Zullie datamined.
I'm pretty sure it'll make its way into the DLC, might also affect dark stuff.
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>>167752249
I think Zullie just strapped the effect to a ring so it could activate on demand. I don't think it was actually a ring effect.
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>>167751936
muh fleyl
brung me muh flale
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>>167752149
It's heavily abyss themed, which makes me hopeful.
I don't care for new spells, I just want to be able to cast black flame and affinity. All we need is a pyromancer's flame tier talisman type thing, that can only casts dark spells, and a ring or two.
From will probably give us a shitty thing that's worse than the pyro-miracle talisman
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>dragon greatscissors and greatshield will be so heavy only dragon builds can afford to use them
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>>167752375
Maybe we'll get really lucky and they'll bring back that staff that could cast everything but pyromancies.
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>>167752398
>greatscissors

I still don't get why
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>>167752398
>dragon build

What does that even mean?
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>>167752398
What is this talk about scissors? Didnt saw them in the trailer or screenshot
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>>167752375
>From will probably give us a shitty thing that's worse than the pyro-miracle talisman
I'm not even sure if that's possible. I swear that thing uses three different scaling formulas specifically so it can be the worst at everything.

>>167752415
Black witch's staff? Knowing From, we will but it'll have the uninfused stats.
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>>167752398
There HAS to be some synergy between the dragon shield and dragon form, similar to beasts embrace/claws.
Please from.
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>>167752398
>giant scissors as weapons
>have to go naked to properly use them
huh..
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>>167752425
It means you're running around naked while pretending you aren't. It also means you have a bunch of "special attacks" that scale with stats you don't even have.

>>167752429
Supposed leaked weapon, demonstrated in a press event along with the demon boss.
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>>167752185
It's an archaic version of you from the feudal days of english, and is made to address someone of a lower status, or someone in an intimate context where status is irrelevant.

Most of the characters using it are talking down to you. The Firekeeper uses it because she's your impromptu wife.
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>>167752429
Some guy posted some """leaked""" Japanese description, a few threads ago, that mentioned them and everybody fell for it.
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I feel like the ADG needs to be heavily re-balanced or else there's little to no point in the damn thing.
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>>167752516
So in other words, they actually are being pretentious.
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>>167752516
THOU'ST!

>y-yeah yeah sure
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>>167752465
>tfw dragon covenant gets added
>it boosts dragon weapons (the tailbone sword and spear from the base game, and the new dragon shield and weapons, etc)
>dragon stones get buffed
>more dragon stones
>dragons get ridiculous unarmed damage
>dragon stones work like stamina based spells, scaling off of your strength/dexterity
>dragons become muscle wizards

It'll probably just be some throwaway shield though, with some shitty gimmick. Do you actually think From would make something fun AND viable?
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>>167752568
Or, I don't know, maybe they're talking in a medieval way because the game has a medieval setting, just saying...
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>>167752556
There are countless weapons and shields in the game with no point.

BAMCO wanted DLC gear to be pay2win, so most of it is straight better than main game gear.
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What is the best infusion for SotFS?
running a DEX build rn, but was thinking of playing around with some FTH or INT scaling since several people have told me that physical damage is shit in the game.
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>have 30 int and faith
>wear warlock mask and black witch robes
>use dispelling ring + maxed quartz ring vs element
>use gmb
>enjoy have 100% magic, dark and lightning resist and 98% fire resist
>obliterate anyone who relies on elemental damage
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>>167752631
>muscle wizard

you mean, like, a warrior?
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>>167752631
>Do you actually think From would make something fun AND viable?
They sure did with the Kos Parasite.

>dragon stones str/dex
They're int/fth right now, so that'd be more than just a buff.
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>>167752631
>scaling off of your strength/dexterity
Oh boy, yet another quality build
Sure love those
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>>167752429
>>167752423
there was mention of an enemy wielding dual ultras. also, for quite some time there has been the idea for a greatsword type weapon that could be snapped together with another similar greatsword to mimic a scissor, idea inspired by those scissor wielding gardeners in royal woods. i imagine the anon who "leaked" it (no source has been given, only a japanese description) probably combined the two.
>>167752398
nice try, but ragged mask/master's attire/master's gloves/loincloth weighs next to nothing and doesn't suffer the defence penalty
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>>167752686
It's a teegee meme
Basically just make dragon stones scale off of strength, increase in "cast speed" with dex, and let dragon weapons get boosted with dragon form
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>>167752667
Regular, slash, and thrust damage is shit. Strike damage breaks the damn game in half.

Dark infusion for everything except the DLCs.
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>>167751136
What did he say?
>>167752309
THANK YOU! I've been waiting for someone to post this again.
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Sometimes I really have to question the fairness of some of their decisions. I've got 36 vig in NG, is it relly necessary for freide's decapitation move to take 2/3rds of that?
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>>167752706
Do they actually scale?
I thought that was a DaS1 thing
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>>167752771
any rec for the DLC? though i was shit when i first tried it, the Fume knight gave me hell when i used physical damage.
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>>167752782
For the record, I saved this to laugh at him later.

>>167752828
>I've got 36 vig in NG
You should have 40vig by endgame. I only lose 1/2.
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>>167752828
Yes. Don't get hit by a slow fucking grab.

That move literally only exists to fuck with lazy casters that want to stay at max distance and lob their slowest spell repeatedly, and faggots that think they can run away and heal when the boss free to attack.
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>>167752860
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXyizBqwlFs
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>>167752860
Head Stone, Twinkling Head Stone, and Twinkling Torso Stone get Dint/Cfth scaling. 40/40 adds something like 250 damage to Twinkling Torso, assuming you ever hit with it. Not a good substitute for spells, though.

DaS1 stones didn't scale with stats, only covenant.

>>167752872
Lightning.
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>>167752887
Hey I'm the other anon! Can't wait for the leaks to prove him wrong. Feel free to laugh at me if I'm wrong (I won't be desu).
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>>167752975
The roar is decent.
They should have a increased cast speed with Dex though
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>>167752887
>Mandolynn
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>>167752887
I should, but I'm splitting my stats between str fai and int while having a hefty allowance for vit.

>>167752898
>slow
She sonics right up to you, after jumping away from you and around the map invisible. the fuck are you on about?
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>>167752978
Not like any of those things contradict themselves, both could turn out to be true or total bollocks
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>>167752525
It was shown being used against the bat boss and 3 different leakers already reported about it.

By how consistent the information about it has been, it's probably true, but there is really no way to know until someone uploads a picture/webm.
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So I heard somewhere that you might need the usurper ending to access the DLC. The odds of this being true?
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>>167752887
I never actually beat Manus in ds1 and this is making me wanna go back and fight him.
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Why is some stupid fucking subhuman dotard playing this game better than 99% of /dsg/?
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>>167753417
>I never actually beat Manus in ds1
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>>167753416
That would be fucking bullshit, I doubt it's the case, locking a dlc behind an ending would be a very shitty move
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>>167753417
He's easily the best fight in that game. Silver Pendant cheeses him if you can't take his dark magics.
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>>167753381
>It was shown being used against the bat boss
>3 different leakers already reported about it

Where?
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>>167753417
I don't think I did tbqh anon, and, the only boss I never killed in the series as far as I recall
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>>167753435
tbf all it takes to be better than dsg in almost everything is the ability to count to ten
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>>167753381
>It was shown being used against the bat boss
Where, exactly ? I don't rememeber seeing it in the trailer/screenshots.
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>>167753416
Literally nil. Look at the sky in usurper ending, then look at the sky in DLC screenshots. Usurper is white corona around black sun, DLC is red corona around black sun. Red is what you get from Flameless Shrine onward, meaning the entrance is most likely immediately before SoC but not after beating him.
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>>167753416
No you don't need to. The sun in the background is the one that apoears after 3 LoC are killed. Usurpation would have the white sun.
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>>167753476
but if it's the last DLC and they really wanna hammer some nails into the coffn of the series' story, they might.
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>>167753471
>>167753478
>>167753516
I remember arty being amazing. In fact he's still my favorite fight and yet I stopped after I beat him.
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>>167753562
There's a phone picture
I'm at work as soon as I get home I'll post it
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>>167753562
>>167753501
Not him, but it was "shown" in a press conference. Screenshots weren't handed out, and they didn't let anyone take pictures.

>>167753602
Do yourself a favor and finish the DLC. It's by far the most lore-important thing in the entire series.
>>
>>167753571
>>167753581
I didn't consider this. Cool, my NG character is ready to go then.
>>
Embargo lifts in three minutes, lads. Get ready.
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>>167753645
Was it ever posted here before ?
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>>167753653
>ng
Anon I hope you have your NG+7 character ready as well.
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>>167753745
I remember someone saying they had a picture last night and it never got posted.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Ke647-xsU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Ke647-xsU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Ke647-xsU

HERE IT IS.
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>>167753756
I don't have a NG+7 character, nor do I really want one. Literally the only incentive is rings, so there's no reason to go into ng+4
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>>167753821
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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>>167753821
>DONT WATCH IT YOU KNOW ITS GONNA SPOIL FUCKING EVERYTHING
I wanna watch it.
>DONT DO IT NIGGA DONT DO IT
But.
>STOP STOOOOOP
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>>167753416
Just vaati talking crap like always, wont happen.
>>
>>167753821
We DEEP now
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>>167753821
>Open the first one
Fuck, so much surprise lost in the first 30 seconds. I JUST WANTED TO SEE THE WEAPONS FUCK
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>>167753821
>didn't even show any weapons
>>
>>167753821
>>167753880
>>167753914
>>167753981
JUST TELL ME AT WHAT POINT DO WE SEE THE WEAPONS I DONT WANNA SEE BOSSES.
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>>167753942
>vaati
Oh, was it him I heard it from?
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>>167753821
Literally Sunken City

And that's not a bad thing.
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>>167753821
>only watched the first 29 seconds
>they still spoiled a great fucking moment
GODDAMMIT

WHY DID I WATCH IT

FUCK BAMCO
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>>167753821
DEEPEST
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>>167753914
it shows 3 areas with 4-5 mobs, but it has some OH SHIT moments in it..not some, very. I watched it, now I am not gonna be surprised when I arrive there ingame.

FUCK IT I AM HAPPY
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>>167754038
>>167754008
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>>167754048
Your sacrifice is greatly appreciated anon, now i know to not watch it
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>>167754038
it shows 1 boss bat boss that is. But it has tense sudden ambush moments in it. It will ruin your tension.

It doesn shows any new weapon, only a fist wep on a dark knight which spews fire.
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>>167754048
Thanks for your sacrifice.
I'm not watching it.
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>>167753821
>that fucking angel
Holy shit the hype is real
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>>167753821
>DEEP
>Angel as a stage hazard (and inevitably boss)
>Embered Forlorn Darkwraith with flaming darksword and SoC combos
>RUIN FUCKING SENTINELS
I wasn't ready
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>>167753821
LMAO 2BAT!11
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>>167753648
>it was "shown" in a press conference

Your source for that being what?

>>167753745
It doesn't exist.

>>167753821
>All dat longsword

For fuck's sake.
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>>167753981
I KNOW FUCK
>>167754098
>>167754145
You're welcome anons. How many days left?
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>>167754093
FUCK
>>167754127
Wait so the spoiler is that bat attacks you when you don't expect or what?
>>167754171
>RUIN FUCKING SENTINELS
THATS FUCKING IT IM WATCHING IT
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>>167754172
2BAT
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>>167754127
It's a shield, which we already knew about.

Can't wait to go full dragon with this
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>>167753821
SOMEONE STOP ME
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>>167754192
>Your source for that being what?
Someone else's ass.
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>>167754172
Man I hate multiple enemy boss fights where one just spams ranged shit out back
>>
>Darkwraith with a flaming sword and a small fire spewing shield
>has the dark sign on its chest
>>
>spoiling yourself
>ruining THE LAST Souls content for yourself
>>
I'M OUT

SEE YOU GUYS IN ONE MONTH AND SOMETHING

ALSO THE SCISSORS THINGS I MADE UP THE WHOLE THING

IT'S JUST WISHFUL FAKE LEAK sorry ; ^)
thanks for the anon who back'd me up in the lie, you're great


BYE
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>>167753602
>he didn't fight best dragon kalameet
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>>167754172
tfw 2Bat rips off Bell Gargoyles
>>
>>167754216
>How many days left?
March 27th.

Yes, they spoiled all that shit a whole month in advance.
>>
>>167754171
>ruin sentinels
where?
>>
They didn't spoil as much as DLC 1 trailer
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>>167754323
Nobody can spoil me if I spoil myself first
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>>167754323
After AoA, you bet I will.
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>>167754371
The flaming archers were wearing the ruin sentinel's armour. Not even "this resembles it a bit because the helmet," it's a perfect replica.
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>>167754316
>a small fire spewing shield
THAT'S NOT A SHIELD
ACHTUNG
ACHTUNG
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>>167754278
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>>167754359
The do it every fucking time.
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>>167754440
>Archer
>Using frogmouth helmet
Makes even less sense than infantry using it
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>>167754371
right fuckin' here
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I have been using crow quills for a really long time now maybe even a month i love it! yet i absolutely suck at it till this day...someone please teach me how to use them (PC)
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>>167754449
>inb4 it's a new dragon form
>Dragoon Form
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Anyone wanna co-op the Nameless King on NG++? I'm level 202
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>>167753821
>that fucking giant (Lloyd?) summoning a bunch of ghost archers
HYPE
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>>167754449
WHY ARE DRAGONS DARK NOW?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>167754449
I WANT THAT ARMOR
I WANT THAT SWORD
I WANT THE DRAGON HEAD
I ALSO WANT TO BE A FLAME KNIGHT OF LONDOR
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>>167752887
>only bosses shown are bat demon and maybe the angel
>bunch of deep shit nobody ever mentioned
>no weapons shown
>not a lick about manus or anything

LOL 5 DAYS GUYS
5 DAYS

5 DAYS AM I RIGHT
>>
>>167754449
>yfw it's a dual weapon
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>>167753821
Looks like that Grey Giant dude is summoning them from afar.
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>>167754449
FLAMMENWERFER WERFS FLAMMEN FLAMMENWERFER WERFS FLAMMEN FLAMMENWERFER WERFS FLAMMEN FLAMMENWERFER WERFS FLAMMEN FLAMMENWERFER WERFS FLAMMEN FLAMMENWERFER WERFS FLAMMEN FLAMMENWERFER WERFS FLAMMEN FLAMMENWERFER WERFS FLAMMEN FLAMMENWERFER WERFS FLAMMEN FLAMMENWERFER WERFS FLAMMEN FLAMMENWERFER WERFS FLAMMEN FLAMMENWERFER WERFS FLAMMEN
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>>167754585
It's a darkwraith, anon.
Note the armour.

The hood is different (resembles DaS2 forlorn) and it has the dragon mouth shield/glove thing, but it's clearly a darkwraith
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>>167754530
How is that a Ruin Sentinel you massive autist?
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>>167754602
NIGGA DID YOU NOT SEE >>167754449
DRAGON HEAD SHIELD THAT SPEWS FIRE
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>>167753821
>Open trailer expecting a few seconds each of new weapons
>The player's wearing basic bitch knight shit and the trailer's just a collection of moments that would've been better if I'd waited
Advertising degrees must come in Crackerjack boxes.
>>
>>167754678
On an NPC. We've seen the player version, and it's fuckhuge.
>>
Fuck, I spoilt myself the ambush, and no weapons were shown
Time to leave dsg and go back once I played the dlc, goodbye you fags
>>
>>167754648
At first I thought that was the judge giant from the screenshots, but I can see now that it has no head.
It looks like a statue or golem of some kind.
>>
>>167754648
>This will never be a spell

Come on from. You made the fire shooting orb pyromancy thingie. This won't be that different.
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>>167754718
The final boss dies
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>>167754162
My thoughts exactly. It's an actual angel! The wings have that curved feathery look to them that you couldn't really see in your pic.
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>>167754628
H Y P E
Y
P
E

Please let it have a faith/ int scaling ;-;
>>
>>167754749
I just want his fucking light ray spell, that was some hot shit.
>>
>>167754743
Stop ruining everyone fun anon
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>>167754694
This tbqh, they didn't shit anything new but spoil parts of the level that would have been best first time moments before skipping ahead to the next
Not even wearing a new armor set, what shite
>>
>>167754749
They're weird and leathery and have strange veins as if someone stretched skin across sully/pilgrim butterfly wings.
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This better be a new spell.
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http://gematsu.com/2017/02/dark-souls-iii-ringed-city-dlc-details-gameplay-screenshots

>Improved online matchmaking functionality

COULD THIS BE WHAT US BLADES OF THE DARKMOON HAVE BEEN LONGING FOR FOR SO LONG?
>>
So when will we get the leaks from our PILLARS?
>>
Look at the design of this architecture
Look at the gateway with the fog wall (clear entrance)

Remind you of anything?
It's Dark Souls 2
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>>167754905
You wish.
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>Ultragreatsword paired with small firesurge shield

PYROS GETTING THEIR OWN ULTRAGREAT VALORHEART SOON
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>>167754905
>new screenshots
>same screenshots as 2 weeks ago
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>hey remember darkwraiths, some of the strongest base game enemies
>yeah, lets give him a dragonfire cannon from mystic knights of tir na dog
>and sword that allows them to go full Gwyn wombo combo on your asses
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>>167754905
>Experience the conclusive ending to the Dark Souls III saga
what did they mean by this
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I better wipe the dust off from my Moaning Shield. All them projectiles can eat shit.
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>>167754943
Forgot image
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>>167755036
Just dodge, you incompetent niggercuck
>>
>>167755053
It means you need to pay to get the complete story or the actual ending because fuck you.
>>
Can someone post a pic of the darkwraith? I need to fuck off.
>>
>>167755053
we're off to fight

the DARK SOUL™ of man
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>>167754889
I just want to say I appreciate the filename.
>>167755053
The final boss of the dlc is...BANDAI NAMCO!

The publisher is the dark soul of man! By slaying namco we end the dark souls games and allow the painter to create a new IP. It's genius!
>>
>>167755053
Let's just hope it wouldn't be shit like base das3 endings
>>
>>167754889
Note that the caster dies by casting it, so probably not. It's just a suicide attack.
>>
Best infusion for Red Hilt Halberd?
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>>167755000
>UGS
The fire darksword will be a SS at best. It probably won't even be acquirable.
>>
>>167755178
Raw.
>>
>>167754905
Unless its a blue eye orb, then no

>>167755000
Pyros truly are all powerful. Deep Pyromancies when
>>
>no info on the new weapons
Where the fuck are the twitchshits with their impression videos ? Weren't they supposed to talk about the new weapons ?
>>
>spoil the levels instead of showing players what we really wanted to see: the new weapons
>spoiled this shit a month before release
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Any new screenshots or info beside the video?
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>>167755000
UGS would be sweet but it looked a lot more like a greatsword or even long straight sword to me if you pay attention to the moveset. Might be because its used by an enemy though
>also dubs and trips of truth, inb4 pyro weapon
>>
>>167755286
>>167755000
>wanting a one handed UGS with a shield
>>
HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO SURVIVE THE SECOND JUMP FROM THE DLC2 VID?

I DON'T HAVE CAT RING
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>>167755036
I will never be worried until I start seeing Lightning Drakes fied to wooden wheels.
>>
>>167755359
>wanting a one handed UGS atypically paired with an unusual dagger
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>>167755391
I can get one for you.
>>
>>167755268
>>167755269
This.
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>>167755391
If the first jump is scripted, the second probably is too. Just like the snow collapse falls in the 1st DLC

There might also be a safe way down that they just didn't show for the sake of time.
>>
>>167755202
If it wouldnt be a weapon the player could use, the enemy would not have put away the dragon head for two handing. It would also be a waste of a perfectly fine dual weapon or two single weapons
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>>167755408
Yeah, and it's shit. I would like to have good weapons.
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>>167755153
It doesn't die, player doesn't get the "souls acquired" particle effect. It looks like it reappears elsewhere and does it again at least two other times, so the enemy uses it like a teleportation spell that punches you in the face at the same time.
>>
>>167755268
>>167755269
I don't give a fuck about weapons
>>
Also if a Darkwraith is a bitch of kaathe

Then a super fire darkwraith is a super bitch of super kaathe?
>>
>>167753821
Alright. I'm out.
See you all next month.
>>
>>167755391
>He skips the cat ring

You never skip the cat ring.
>>
>>167755487
>implying the milwood knights didn't cheat the same way and do impossible shit the player couldn't
>>
>>167755271
Same screenshots that we saw 2 weeks ago. The gaming press are now posting their impressions with the DLC.
>>
>>167755130
don't you mean
the DARK SOUL™ of Man, the Furtive Pygmy?
>>
>>167755391
Same way you survive the jump into the Pit of Hollows in the Greatwood fight
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>>167755526
According to Vaati, Yuria's JP dialogue suggests that Kaathe is dead.

The Japs get a lot of shit that we don't, the "nameless" Moon Presence in BB actually has a name in Japan.
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>Angels come crashing on your ass
>Darkwraiths are rocking a fancy Dragon armour
>humanity sprites burst out from enemies
>batwing demons buffed up and started firing lasers
>ghost archer squad summoned by a giant
whad the fuug
they decided to roll the entire lore into one dlc or something
>>
http://www.gamesradar.com/dark-souls-3-the-ringed-city-dlc-hands-on/
>As you fall, the ancient stone aesthetic of the Dreg Heap will give way to a variety of environments including sprawling greenery or murky swamps, and these realms may also resemble recognizable regions from Dark Souls games past - not just 3, but Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2 as well.
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Okay guys, that's it for me, see you again in April / May
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>>167755629
>>167755476
There's no sign of ground breaking beneath you, which is how every drop from high places start.

So yeah, the second jump right now looks like it'll kill a fuckton of people with low VIG and no cat ring
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>>167755723
Godspeed baby.
>>
>>167755526
It'll depend on what exactly the Ringed City is affiliated with.
So far I've seen a bunch of subtle DaS2 callbacks in the trailer
There's the obvious Londor association with the sword of avowal
And the fucking angel
and the fucking deep

But the darkwraith himself seems to be a mishmash of design cues from several different 'factions.' There's no reason for a Kaatheslut to have a dragon shield, nor fire sword and a flaming cape. The hood also looks distinctly different from the darkwraith's normal hood.

I've been trying to get a good look at the sword when it's not on fire, and the hilt is some curly, elaborate decoration. It's also much thinner than the dark sword. Relative to its length, it would be about as narrow as gotthard's if it was player-sized.
>>
>>167753821
They're responding to comments, apparently it's longer than AoA, with more bosses, and the reason he doesn't die is because gravity is fucked
>>
>the angel's attacks have the same particle effects as Lothric's magic
Neat
>>
>>167755701
>they still haven't decided where and how players will access the DLC from the main game
Holy shit their schedule must be a mess, Prepare for rushed and unfinished shit.
>>
>>167755701
>ABOUT THE AUTHOR
>Lucas Sullivan
>Sullivan

Can the Pontiff be stopped?
>>
>>167755876
Jesus, FromSoft.
>>
>boss with mobs
What the fuck
Did b team did it or something
>>
>>167755876
>>167755943
I doubt that. They just need to find a way to make it work for the 1 person who didn't also buy ashes.
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>>167755896
>kill him in pitched combat
>he just becomes an angel and fucks around at the apocalypse
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>>167755576
What did they do? As far as I remember all their attacks where legit and you could get all their weaponry. I dont expect the player to be actually able to do the gwyn combo, at least if it is a dual weapon and not two seperate ones. My whole point is that the dark sign knight would probably not have head an animation for putting the dragon head away, like the player character does, but it would rather be his hand and he would either not two hand the sword at all or hold it in his hand and the dragon jaw.
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>>167755391
>Summoned before the second wolf ambush in DLC
>Invader triggered the landslide so there was no easy way down
>Jump down the with Cat Ring for no damage
>Host and summon both jump down and sudoku
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>>167755876
It seems like something they can put off and decide really fast later.

It doesn't tell us shit.
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>>167756023
Wait, are people actually thinking the sword and shield would be a combo weapon? Sorry, I was a little distracted.
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>>167755701
So from the looks of this, it seems that the Ringed City is in the heart of an enormous sinkhole or crater that the Dreg Heap surrounds, and we descend the Heap, falling from zone to zone, on our way down. Fall damage is seemingly disabled and I'm getting the impression that the Heap is like a pastiche of really small zones, each in some way a callback to a previous souls area, with the Ringed City at the end of the road.

This also seems to suggest that we'll face at least one boss before reaching the actual city.
>>
>>167755391
See>>167755701
>You'll have to set foot on a crumbling ledge that instantly gives way, sending you plummeting 10 stories down and crashing through the stained glass window of a collapsed church. Yet somehow, you survive the plunge with your health bar unscathed. This startling moment is meant to teach you that in this Purgatory-like domain, jumping off a cliff may not mean instant death.
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>guy picks up a soul item
>didn't show what it was
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>>167756221
It was a bait item meant to draw you onto the ledge. It was probably trash like a green blossom or throwing knives.
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>>167748709

>Almost 5 minutes Ringed City gameplay
I'm afraid of watching it because I bet it includes 90% of the content.
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>>167756159
>you beat the fuck out of those giant batwing demons
>force them to carry you into actual ringed city
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>>167756250
Everything but the gear.
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>>167756195
But the thing crumbled, like in other times in the game so you know you won't die

The second jump, while the butterfly is shooting shit at you doesn't seem scripted at all, meaning you'd take damage from it

Are you trying to tell me we get passive cat ring in the whole DLC area because From couldn't be fucking assed to plan the thing right and rushed the shit out of it?
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>>167756270
Can we get angel webm too senpai?
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>>167756250
Everything they have shown before DLC1 spoiled the ENTIRE thing. If you are yet unspoiled then fuck off for your own good and play it blind. From doesn't give a fuck.
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>>167756270
>players will never, ever get a moveset that varied
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>>167756270
This looks like battle fury armour from mystic knights of tir na dog.
Even has flamethrower included.
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>>167756159

I think so. As the games have said in the past, the land itself is cursed. Places from all over the world are being dragged into an event horizon.

We're going straight into the event horizon to figure out what the fuck is cursing the land.
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>>167756270
is that urn hinting their weakness?
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The important question is,,,
will we get bone fists in the DLC?
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>>167756315
Gravity is convoluted in the Ringed City.
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>>167756250
It does.
The gameplay footage basically just ran us through a series of encounters, spoiling ambush/setpieces and showing off a new enemy moveset.

Half of the footage is just the bat boss, which is still the only boss shown. Some information is spoiled about it that we didn't know from the first trailer and we see A LOT of its moveset since the footage goes on for so long.

There's nothing ion the trailer actually worth spoiling yourself over. No new information and no weapons or gear. We don't even get very good looks at the environment. It's just straight up spoiling encounters/movesets.
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>>167756270

Great, more delayed attacks and combos.
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>>167756398
he uses dragon equipment and resembles an advanced darkwraith so sure
if anything, lighting should devastate the fuck out of him
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>>167756464
>not liking your enemies with flailing attacks
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>>167756398
Considering the player just ate like 3 buffed attacks to the face, I think he was fishing for an estus flask and fumbled
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>there's 2 bats
Should have expected this.
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>>167756382
We don't even see much. The combo thing is obviously a "weapon art" since enemies always get cooler WAs than the player. Look closely, he enters a stance and the sword catches fire, then only releases the stance and attacks when the player gets close.
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>>167756629
>they actually were guarding a nest with their babies
>last hope of the demon race
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>>167756629
What do you want to bet that poisonbat will have a fraction of the health that firebat has and be vulnerable to a one-cycle kill by speedrunners
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http://www.pcgamer.com/dark-souls-the-ringed-city-preview/
>A pilgrim sits near the edge, looking down, muttering on about the abyss and a beast and Prince Lorian
OH SHIT
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>>167756687
>ywn cuck the male bat demon and breed with his mate
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>>167756352
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>>167756629
>The last survivor of Demons
>There's actually two
BRAVO
R
A
V
O
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>>167756726
so demon is most likely connected to Lorian indeed
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>>167756804
>kill one
>other becomes last survivor
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>>167756476

>Goal of the Darkwraiths and Kaathe in general was to create one super soldier with as much Humanity as possible.
>This Darkwraith is so advanced to has a massive Darksign in its chest, advanced attacks, the power of dragons and flame.
>Londor is all about Kaathe's plan

Dark Lord? CHOSEN UNDEAD??? Was a part of Kaathe's plan all along to raise a Humanity filled entity (Chosen Undead) and a being of the First Flame (Lord of Hollows) to fight and create yet another more powerful being? What the fuck is their plan?
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>>167756826
That's actually hilarious. We had speculated right from the beginning that the cut "bat" boss in the game files was meant to be the Demon Prince referenced in Lorian's sword.
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>>167756791
You're the best, thank you.
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>>167756726
>about the abyss and a beast
irithyll was merely a setback?
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>>167756629
>>167756687
>>167756804
>they're both guarding the real boss
>Demon Prince
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>>167756836
crashing this plane
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>>167756836
That's a generic mook, anon. You'll probably kill dozens of them through the DLC.

Fancy moveset aside, the fact that it has 0 poise, unlike real darkwraiths, mean it will be trivialized by stunlocking or knockdown chains, just like Lothric Knights
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>>167756791
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Anyone speak spaghetti?
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What's the current memeweapon for PvE and PvP?
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>>167756791
>he will probably follow you around the Dreg Heap like an asshole
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>>167756396
It's the abyss, duh.
The Ringed City claims it's consumed by the abyss.
The ringed city is in the center of an enormous sinkhole
All of time and space is sinking into this enormous abyssal sinkhole
All of time and space is sinking into this enormous abyssal sinkhole, representing the age of dark, as the age of fire ends.

The word is physically moving to the next age, with all of the worlds from previous cycles left as trash in the rim from where they ALMOST made it, but were stopped by the linking of the fire.
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>>167757084
>implying there's only one
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Wow, this knight in the middle of the video.
Now we can cosplay Grunbeld. Well, kinda.
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>finish the dlc
>open the last door in the game
>it leads to a realistic representation of FROM's offices
>a lifebar appears for "Hidetaka Miyzaki"
>your choice is to either walk away and continue playing souls or kill him to permanently delete your savefile, ending the cycle and freeing both of you to enjoy other games
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>>167756957
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>>167757121

Even better, perhaps the closer to the sinkhole we get, the further in the past the architecture will be. This way we can see the actual timeline.

But what the fuck is waiting at the bottom?
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>>167757321
The Old One
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>>167757301

I was waiting for that.
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>>167756791
*unzips hawk ring and greatbow*

inb4 invincible
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>>167757321
The DARK SOUL™ of man
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>-502000 CrimsonBat
>-512000 SnakeSoul
>-519000 RuinCapitalKing
>-523000 MatherDoragon

Reminder that the real big bad is the mother of all dragons.
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>>167757035
>doesn't have a dragonslayer's plume
Horrible image.
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>>167757121
Also it's worth noting that "the deep" should be really fucking clear now that we have some info about this DLC.

It's just an apocalypse prophecy about the abyss. The Deep itself is this end-of-days world, on the brink of falling into dark (the precipice, I guess. Not quite abyssal depth but still DEEP, hence the distinction). It's like the ring of limbo preceding hell. All this talk of dregs and 'sinking until they became the bedrock of the world' was Aldrich prophesying the end of the age of fire, and that critical moment in its dying light when the start of the next cycle, fire or dark, is in flux.
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>>167757321
The beginning of time probably.

We know from the article that the Ringed City itself is near the bottom.
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>>167756989
>http://www.everyeye.it/articoli/provato-dark-souls-3-the-ringed-city-32360.html
nothing really worth reading, they just say "oh it's so cruel oh there's so much enemies oh you're gonna die a lot le DS is difficult meme"
typical italian videogame journalism, it sucks
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>>167757472
>mater dragon
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>>167756726
>Soon enough, he finds a rooted humanoid creature somehow connected to the butterfly hiding behind a boulder. Killing it makes the butterfly dissolve (for now).

ANGELS ARE AN ILLUSION CREATED BY PEOPLE TURNING INTO TREES
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>>167757431
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>>167757495
5 bucks says the Ringed City is the realm that the furtive pygmy ruled, and where he created humankind.

The Gods found it, feared it and turned on him. Then, the struck its existence from history and the city itself was lost to time, at the very heart of the transitory world where Gwyn's very first linking of the fire had banished it.

I'm certain Manus' pendent will get referenced in there somewhere. The DaS1 dlc hinted at some betrayal as Manus' motivation but never expanded on it. This one will probably retcon some meaning into it.
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>>167757282
>walk back outside and slam door shut
I could keep playing these games forever. I'm like the first flame to Bamco's sun, and y'all are cursed until you snuff me out.
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>>167757691
I always thought the whole manus pendent thing was a nod to how Miyazaki trolled us with the pendent gift at the start of the game.
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>>167757842
YAMETE
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>>167757842
>Smelter Demon
Oh I actually liked that bo-
>Iron Passage
HOW ABOUT WE DON'T DO THAT.
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>>167757842
kek
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At least 3 boss fights confirmed.
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>tfw can't play DaS3 so spoilers don't matter
>tfw can't play DaS3
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>>167757980
>trusting Jewco
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>>167757472

THE ABYSS DRAGON
THE REASON SEATHE WAS BORN SCALELESS
BIRTHED THE PRIMORDIAL SERPENTS
THE REASON DRAGONS SEEM TO NEVER GET COMPLETELY WIPED OUT
THE CREATOR OF THE EGG IN THE TRAILER
THE CREATOR OF THE PETRIFIED EGG
THE REASON FOR THE DRAGON COVENANTS
IGNORANT SLAVES, FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT HAVE YOU?
HOLLOWS HAVE BEEN THE SLAVES OF DRAGONS SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL
THEY CONTINUE TO USE US
THEY WILL HAVE THEIR WORLD AGAIN ONCE ALL THE ARCHITECTURE IS CONSUMED AND THERE'S NOTHING LEFT BUT A WORLD OF CRAGS AND TREES
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>>167757842
>not black and white like humanity with darksign in for the whole
ONE JOB
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>>167757942
>Smelter Demon redone with DaS3 boss design
I would actually love that. Smelter was one of my favourite bosses from 2.
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>>167757282
>Miyazaki
"Dis rand is peacefoor, its inhaburtence kind, but dow do not berong!"
>then you get ganked by employees riding office chairs, Fromsoft's version of the bonewheel skeletons.

(pic kind of unrelated)
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i hope ornstein will return in this dlc
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Reminder that we fall through this very window at the beginning of ringed city so it's an utterly wrecked and ruined tower of Grand Archives.
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>>167758007
Well, you can sue them now without problem if it happens to be the same or less.
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>>167757670
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>>167758035
GAS THE DRAKES
LORD WAR NOW
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>>167757653
ANGELS ARE PEOPLE TREES HAVING EPILEPSY

THE FURTIVE PYGMY IS A BABY DRAGON
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>>167758119
Nice catch.
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>>167758119

So everything is set throughout either different timelines or alternate worlds.
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>>167758007
They fucking HAVE to include at least 3 boss fights, after the AoA shitshow.
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>>167758307
No it's our world, just in the future. Remember
>time is convoluted in Draglothran
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>>167758035
>soulsverse is actually the shadowrun setting
>dragons rule everything from shadows
>primordial serpents were just the tools of real primordial dragon who used them to wipe out his competition
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>>167758336

Implying this DLC wasn't already close to completion when the reviews came out for the first.

>
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>>167758336
>three bosses
>inb4 lmao2bat counts as two of them
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>>167753821
Asked about new weapons, BAMCO-senpai noticed me.

Fuck this
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>>167758307
>As you fall, the ancient stone aesthetic of the Dreg Heap will give way to a variety of environments including sprawling greenery or murky swamps, and these realms may also resemble recognizable regions from Dark Souls games past - not just 3, but Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2 as well.
At first we will encounter bits of DS3 locations. Then bits of DS2 locations. Then bits of DS1 locations, then we will reach Ringed City.
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>>167757472
The bats will be a mandatory progress barrier but fought relatively early, like Artorias in AotA

The Snake will be whatever is being foreshadowed by the mural in Friede's boss room. It won't be a primordial serpent but will have some direct relation to them and hint at some answers. This will be an optional boss in the Ringed City at the end of a long detour, accessed by acquiring a key item hidden along the main path, like Alonne from CotIK

The Capital King will be "The Dark Soul of Man" and beating him will effectively complete the DLC. It will be a humanoid boss with design cues from DaS2's "Forlorn" and essentially the dark equivalent to Soul of Cinder, referencing player builds and movesets across multiple phases. Its final phase will have some surprise twist.

The Mother Dragon will be the boss accessed only after completing both DLCs and having the painter loli create a new world. It's the "Mother" she refers to in her dialogue when she repeats the lessons she received about painting a world only when you're ken to but not consumed by fire. Twist will be that dragons created the world much in the same way that the painter loli creates a painted world, and both fire and dark are the ingredients necessary.
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>>167758486

THE VERY BEGINNING OF IT ALL
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>>167758486
>then we will reach Ringed City.
You mean notBoletaria.
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>>167753821
Is it just me or does the Dreg Heap look like the surrounding area of the Kiln of the First Flame?
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>>167758519
>inb4 that angel is actually a primordial snake in disguise
>when second phase of his battle starts, he drops his angel-like appearance and worms his way into the ground
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>>167758048
>Soul of the Old Smelter Demon
>Like man things in the Ringed City, this iron statue given life is from a time and place long ago and far away, but the these days the walls between such things is weak and frail. The old king who had this built was consumed by his own conceit and hubris and in the end fell these traits were what led to his downfall as his own creation sunk his kingdom in fire. Even though this is not the first time a powerful man has blinded to his own weakness, it was certainly not the last. No one ever seems to learn from the past.
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>>167758691
I think its supposed to be more or less the same thing, a place where reality is breaking down and smashing into itself.
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>>167758691
Yes, because it's literally that place.

I remember thinking about how cool it would be if that heap of building was possible to explore. From choose the single best setting for last DLC they possibly could.
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>>167758486
Despite it making no sense if it were the case, I would so love it if at the bottom of it all we got to visit the original Kiln of the First Flame again, except in this one you made your way through the columns and flying buttresses, with the entire building suspended above an endless Abyss
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>>167757035
pffffft
hes no match for this fella........
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Is there this footage in better quality anywhere? Looks so damn murky.
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>tfw DLC2 makes DLC1 feel like filler
Should have merged them somehow like The Old Hunters.
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>>167758914
That was probably the original plan.
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>>167758967
>>167758914
Either bamco or from wanted a shitter season pass which forces them to make multiple
They could and should have just done both as one unrushed DLC
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>>167758914
>tfw DLC2 makes DLC1 feel like filler
>when it directly continues the story of the 1st DLC
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>snakes on mural in Friede's boss room are white
>there's depiction of Primordial Snake as an angel in grand archives
>immediately after ruined grand archives we're assaulted by enormous white angel
>not a single trailer allows us to clearly see his face
>inb4 it's actually an another kind of primordial serpents that were against the whole plan of Londor and decided to influence the kings of human lands to link the fire
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>>167758914
> This DLC's story is closely linked to its predecessor, and FromSoftware has been treating the two as one unit akin to Bloodborne's The Old Hunters
Bamco forced them to separate the DLC most likely.
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>>167758486
Even though I've been a bit hard on DS3 for how much it takes from previous games, I would actually really like it if areas of the Ringed City were nonsensical mishmashes of areas from previous games. You go through a door and find yourself going through the lower Undead Burg, take a ladder up and then you find yourself in Heide's Tower of Flame, and dropping through a hole places you in the Cathedral of the Deep.
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>>167758307
Think of it like this:
The Dreg Heap is the original world, the one that Gwyn and his fellows claimed from the dragons and built their civilization on. You visit this heap in DaS1, and it's called "Ash lake" then.

When the fire was linked, that world was left behind and a new world began, layering over the old one like sheets of fabric. Each cycle ends with the current world sinking and becoming part of the burnt-out heap of drags at the bottom of everything, while the fire creates a fresh world over top of it.

The worlds left behind are like ash. All their fuel has been burnt out so they just litter the bottom of the fireplace, inert, while the flame continually moves to burn fresh fuel. The "fresh fuel" is each new Lord of Cinder, and so each new world is essentially created by them.

DaS3's world layout is basically the result of a bunch of dead worlds being dragged back up from the dreg heap and into the active layer so that they could be re-burned for what little fuel might still be left.

The layers of the Dreg Heap are like rings of an old tree. It's made up of countless sequential eons of history, cycles of fire, that each and all ended and sank back down to the bedrock of the world.

The Ringed City itself is special, because while the world of fire lies above the unformed world, the world of dark surely lies below. The Ringed City is essentially the mouth of the abyss that's opening as an Age of Dark begins, which means the "Dreg Heap," this bedrock of the world, is the Deep that Aldrich and co. have been preaching and preparing for.
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G-guys, we're getting bone fists this DLC, R-right?
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>enemies casting dark spells
OH BOY GONNA GET SOME NEW DARK SPELLS

>angel casting light spells
OH BOY GONNA GET SOME LIGHT SPELLS

>knight with a flamethrower shield
OH BOY GONNA- wait, what? Where did that come from?

>giant summoning gate of babylon
UM

>flamelurker 2: twin humanities
FROMSOFT

>turbofat acroknights
SLOW DOWN FROMSOFT HOLY SHIT

>still don't know what the egg was
YOU'RE GONNA CHAFE SOMETHING
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>>167759056
Imo the Serpents are larvae Angels
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>>167758519
>is being foreshadowed by the mural in Friede's boss room
Do you have screenshot or pic of that?
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>>167758719

I tried cleaning this up. Thoughts?

>An iron statue given life from long ago, amongst many things in the Ringed City.

>The old king, consumed by his own conceit, had this built. Blinded by his own weakness, the kings hubris is what lead to his downfall, at the hands of this Demon.

>Many powerful men have fallen due to neglect of their own weakness. Perhaps knowledge of the past is worth more than whatever these men sought.
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>>167756629
LMAO2BATS
2BATS
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>>167758914
It seems like they were originally planned as one TOH-length DLC and Bamco made them split it.

Bamco probably didn't want to wait almost a year after release before introducing new content, since DLCs revive the game and trigger a new sales cycle whenever they launch. But, having not planned for the DLCs to be splt and standalone, and probably not having scheduled to have so much content ready for an early release, they had to rush to cobble something together.

I'm sure Friede was planned and prioritized from the start, but I'll bet that both the Gravetender and the arena were cobbled together last-minute to pad the DLC because they didn't have the time to do something better.
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>>167759363
I rike it
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>>167759056
One of the articles already explained the angels. There's a tree-person on the ground corresponding to each one, and killing the tree makes the angel disappear. They're just the final form of hollows turning into trees.
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>>167759363
That's good, I like that.
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>>167756629
>yet another bell gargoyles boss

They never get tired of sucking massive dicks, don't they...
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>>167759540
Or they are merely projecting the true thing and we will meet the actual angel much later.
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>>167759610
What's even better is that it's recycling attack animations from Vicar Amelia.
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>>167759331
>the last boss is ascended angelic Frampt
>you can distract him and open him up for hits by throwing dung pies
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>>167759540
Did they ever explain what that was about? Why are hollows turning into trees?
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>>167759787
I only remember Giants turning into trees in DS2
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>>167759372
I fite de 2bat wif de 2kat ahuhuhu
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>>167759787
They're turning into new archtrees, humanity's base form is a hollow tree that the fire gave a soul, with that ending they'll slowly turn and seed the new barren world of dragons
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>>167759909
REMOVE TREE, REMOVE TREE
MUST FAN FIRE, MUST FAN FLAMES
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>>167759871
>>167759909
So the base form of all life is trees?
Are we Groot?
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>>167759448
Sounds about right. TOH had three major areas (Hunter's Nightmare, Research Hall, and Fishing Village), five bosses total (2 for HN, 2 for RH, 1 for FV). Third area was only accessible by using a key on the door, though both were found in the same room. Word from Miyazaki is that The Old Hunters was originally planned as two separate DLCs but were combined when they didn't have enough content for them to count.

If this DLC set follows the same general plan as the last one, AoA will have two bosses, TRC will have two bosses, and there'll be a key in one and a door in the other that leads to a third area with one final boss. In this case, since the third area is technically downloaded with TRC (even though only accessible with both), Namco can say it has three bosses.

Interestingly, the actual reason for TOH being one DLC and this one being two might be Sony. Sony's standards for what qualifies as DLC are higher ever since the PS4, and DLC content is required to have trophies for them. If From wanted to sell DLC on a Sony exclusive, they'd need to meet Sony's standards first and also have trophies for it. Since AoA isn't forced to have trophies, that means Sony doesn't consider it enough content to be a DLC and it normally wouldn't have been sold as such if the choice were up to them. If DaS3's DLCs were the same size as TOH altogether, Sony would've made From combine them again.
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>>167760034
Or dragons, that's the base premise of DaS' backstory, in the beginning there was nothing but dragons and trees and then fire happened and changed everything.
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>>167759871
Isn't heavily implied that DaS II giants are just golems and have no relation to the DaS and DaS 3 giants?
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>>167760112
No? It's heavily implied that they're exactly the same giants and their souls were stolen to turn them into/create golems.
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>>167759787
Not really.
Presumably, all life in dark souls is made out of roughly the same stuff, and different creates are just stuff in different shapes with different amounts of fire and dark and other such magics inside them. That "stuff" is just some sort of stone, same thing that the giants are made of, as the archtrees are made of, gods, demons, and people.

You can see this motif echoed across all the games. Gods appear more stone-like when they're old and weak (NK, Gwyn, for example). The player character becomes stone-like as they hollow in DaS1, and of course dead giants in 2 (with stone skin) turn into trees. People frequently mistake Gwyn, and to a lesser extent NK, for being "hollowed" because they looks like he's made of stone, just like hollowed players do.

Tree-ness is like the basest form of life preceding souls, so people turning into trees would suggest that they've decayed so completely that there's no longer even any fire or dark left in them. They're returning to an Age of Ancients state, pre-flame.

What this has to do with angels is anyone's guess. I suppose treeness probably represents this Dreg Heap place, as sort of an in-between layer beneath fire and above dark that's reminiscent of the unformed world that preceded fire.
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>>167760085
The season pass was out before any dlc was even a thing though, bamco or from made it so they had to release multiple packs, can't have a season pass for one download
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>>167760112
The giants in Dark Souls 2 were originally going to look stupid as hell along with all kinds of other terrible things, then they binned the old director and sent in based Tanimura to make something playable out of it. He corrected the problem by scooping their faces out because they didn't have enough time to make new ones.
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>>167758519
I like you, tell us more about dem twists and unseen weapons.
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>>167760284
>okay guys lets do a season pass because we're gonna do at least 2 DLCs
>o shit progress on this first pack is actually really fucking slow
>getting major scope creep
>well we can't just release this one DLC now, better split it in 2 so we didn't shaft whoever bought a season pass
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>>167760284
I was saying that the original plan for TOH was to release it as two DLCs, and the original plan for DS3 DLC might've also been to release two. TOH might've been combined into one because it didn't meet Sony's standards as DLC.
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>>167760436
This is an Old Iron King, not a giant.
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>>167760436
>Look at this stupid thing, how do we fix it?
>Dig it out with a spoon till it looks like a gaping asshole
>Got it boss
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>>167760112
Vendrick and/or Aldia turned them into Golems. They invaded their lands, kicked their asses and presumably brought some back with them as prisoners, or maybe took prisoners when the giants invaded. Aldia experimented on them, turning a number of them into mindless servants, and one into a dragon.

Golems are weird in this series because they're not very consistent in design through the three games. In DS1 they looked the same, Gough had the same body structure as the Giant Blacksmith, but in DS2 they're shorter, but they have giant shoulders and smaller legs, except the Giant Lord who towers all previous giants and has lanky limbs. Then in DS3 the giants are even larger, the body itself is the same as DS1 giants, but they have thin limbs, and then there's Yhorm, who proportionally human-like.
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Where the fuck are the twitchfag videos ? I want some more info on the new DLC weapons.
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>>167760463
>>167760284
stuff like this is the Publisher's bag not the developers, Bandai-Namco started selling season passes and was in agreement that From would make 2 dlc because they wanted to sell 2 dlc, this was their business model. Sony has high standards for DLC so when they were the publisher for Bloodborne they contracted From for 1 larger dlc.

This if nothing else is why ending the Dark Souls series is a good thing, Bamco is a shitty publisher and Dark Souls is stuck with them.
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Does Linking the Fire roll you over to NG+ in DS3 or is there a second prompt?
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>>167760527
You wish.

>>167760551
There's a couple other faces too, so they were probably working on a few ideas before running out of time. The other one I have is even worse though, asshole face is an improvement.
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>>167760665
There's a second prompt, it's not automatic
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>>167760645
I'll tank bamco over Sony if it lets me actually play the games
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>>167760112
It's confusing because DaS2's item descriptions are such a mess, but the implication seems to be either that Giant's souls were taken and used to create Golems, or that the Giants themselves were captured and enslaved as Golems.

The Golems in Drangleic Castle (the ones who supposedly built it after Drangelic's victory) have runes etched on their faces, presumably as some sort of magic spell. It's been speculated that the rebelling Giant's anusfaces is a result of self-mutilating to remove those command runes, or else that they were "scooped" out to make depositories for soul power, like the holes that other Golems have in their chest.

It's worth noting that the runes on the Golem faces is a reference to the jewish parable of the Golem, in which an artificial humanoid is given life by writing a spell in its mouth, but then grows to turn on its master and destroy them unless it is destroyed first. The story is meant to be one about hubris and the limits of human control, which plays nicely into the themes in DaS2 about Vendrick unintentionally orchestrating the fall of his own kingdom by fucking with things bigger than himself.
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>>167760754
>being a PCfat
>picking shit over actual finished games
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>>167760616
>expecting cancerous e-celebs to deliver
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>>167748831

Is that what Sullyvahn wanted to turn into?
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>>167760862
Nah, they're tree people. Hollow tree final form.
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notice me senpai
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>>167760694
it's a shame the old team was so busy making terrible shit that had to be scrapped instead of finishing the lighting engine, it might have been a good game then if that one thing had been in place for tanimura.
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>>167760908
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>>167760908
No.
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>>167758914
DLC1 was primarily for the Arena. It's only fair that one of the DLCs be more PvP focused and one more PvE focused.
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>>167760092
Dragons, trees, worms and hollows
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>>167760818
But I'd rather have a PC and be able to play souls games and other games that I actually enjoy rather than being stuck with an inferior nip multimedia device
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>>167760908
d-did i do good?
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>>167760561
Yhorm has the same proportions as the DaS2 Giant Lord/Last Giant. People were convinced there was some kind of direct connection between them until the game came out and revealed that Yhorm has a normal face under his chainmail and that the anushole was a total misdirection.
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>>167758035

Makes sense, since snakes are imperfect dragons.

My thought was that snakes were jealous of dragons and set the events in motion for their expermination, starting the souls story.

But who knows.
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What do you suppose this statue is?
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The worm that drops lighting stake really should have been a boss.
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>>167761180
That's one of the Lothric Knight statues
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whoops, happened again
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>>167761067
Giants are supposed to have faces, the hole is opened up to dig out their soul, the giants in das3 are missing their faces/souls because the cycle has gone on for so long that over time most if not all giants were enslaved and desouled.
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>>167754449
I can't wait, for the life of me, to cosplay that badass mofo
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>>167758914

I'll bet the Bamcos did this.
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>>167761209
It was probably intended as one, or at least as a proper stage hazard. It has far too many animation assets to simply have been intended as it ended up. I'm sure they encountered some technical problem and couldn't get it implemented right, so they scrapped the idea and stuck it in the lake.
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>>167761180
Isn't it one of those self beheading statues that you see in Lothric Castle/High Wall ?
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>>167761121
Sounds retarded
>Worms creates fire, something totally alien to the everything in the world that gives every hollow creature a soul and makes shit like death and life. dark and light
>Age of fire sucked for them because they are still not at the top of food chain so they hate fire now
>Even in lord of hollow ending no living(or not) creature has a power to kill fire until it's gone normal way(until waifu bait from the 3rd game got this power for some super special reason)
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>>167761248
The Gods always had Giants enslaved. Chained Giants in DaS1 open the gates to Sen's fortress for you, for example.
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>>167761067
That was always one of the weirder design choices to me. They promote the game by showcasing this character who a slight redesign of the Giant Lord, and then they give him a human face?

Honestly that makes me think that Yhorm's actually a person who just got HUGE.
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>>167761343
Yeah, but they had faces and one exactly like them is a friendly NPC, removing the soul isn't the only way to enslave them I just mean that the process invented in das2's backstory became widespread and over time most giants were subjected to it.
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>>167759292
never ever

Have a greatsword with C/D scaling instead, goy
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>>167761343
Giants in DS1 were still people, they were just working for very powerful gods. Vendrick was just a human, a powerful one, but just human, so the giants they did enslave needed something else to keep them in line, so Aldia turned them into statues.
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there's new video on Vaati's channel.
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>>167761578
Fuck off Vaati.
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BAT-DEMON CONFIRMED TO BE DEMON PRINCE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifhy9pp1pAw

Vaati seems to have played th first part of the DLC.
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>>167761318
What if the Serpents created Fire so that they could create Dark. Fire was just a means to an end, Dark was what they actually wanted, but they needed light in order to cast that shadow first.

But then Fire turned out to be more awesome than they expected. The Gods got to it first, so they had to suffer through an Age of Fire under the God's thumb while they waited. But waiting is alright, because Fire's inherently fade. They just gotta bide their time and eventually only Dark will remain. They probably sent Frampt to be an adviser to Gwyn so they could make sure their jew-serpent interests were represented in the meantime.

That's when Frampt decides to be a fuck. The Gods figure out a way to extend the Age of Fire indefinitely and he backs them 100%, turning has back on his Serpent comrades because he's gotten all buddybuddy with Gwyn. Gwyn links the fire and keeps the Fire going, denying the Serpents this Dark that they've been waiting for. Now they can't just sit around waiting anymore, so they start interfering, manipulating humans to try and subvert Frampt's guidance and stop the cycle so they can finally have their Dark.

The big trick, of course, is that the Serpents intend to claim Dark for themselves and rule the Age of Dark as their Age. They promise humankind that the Dark Age will be the Age of Man, but they have no intention of actually letting that happen. Humans are just tools to see their goals come to fruition.
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>>167759787

Hollows are wooden puppets, props on the stage of life. They're made of wood originally before the Soul gave them life, and the Fire gave them new appearance, which degrades when the Fire fades.
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>>167761803
Stone, not wood.
The original trees are made of stone.
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>>167761209
Imagine the whole level just being a huge stage for boss fight, the worm would move all around the lake and fuck your shit up, then you would have to climb up to the ballista, pin the cocksucker down/injure it enough to slow it down then come down and have proper bossfight with the worm.
The whole lake is such shit level, literally nothing but the worm and handful of crabs in there.
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>>167761803
technically stone not wood, since the trees of the time were made of stone.

What does that make actual trees and wood by the way? is it a degenerate weak form of stone?
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>those Batwing Demons that took you from High Wall to Undead Settlement are never seen again
>there's a poisonous swamp right next to Undead Settlement

>you fight more than one bat demon boss, and one of them is poisoned
>Ringed City takes place in the distant future of Lordran, Drangleic and Lothric

C A L L
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>>167761729
>second section of Dreg Heap is called Earthen Peak
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>>167761729
>>167761578
EARTHEN PEAK AND FUCKING DESERT SORCERESS ARE BACK
FROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
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>>167761981
Inb4 the people that hate DaS2 commit mass suicide.
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I haven't played DS3 in a while and I wanted to try a quality build
Are straight swords still good/fun? What else should I try?
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>>167761729
>turns out you have to finish the job
Or maybe the pilgrim doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about
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>giving Plagiarizing Nintendo Fanboy viewcounts and ad revenue
Stop that shit.
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>>167762092
Yup still great. Try the Claymore, it's a greatsword exactly halfway between straight sword and greatsword.

The Onyx Blade has the same moveset and is a lot of fun to play on a pyro. But even if you aren't interested in anything but melee, I'd recommend you try it then respec, shifting all your str/dex into int/faith.
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>>167761757

Kinda makes sense. What if, as implied, the Dragons were born deformed, but it's because they were born with Souls? Realizing this, they split their Souls and left them in a combined pile, The First Flame, for the Hollows to gather and use to destroy the Dragons. They never real did explain WHY the Hollows wanted to kill the Dragons. Maybe they were told to by the Primordial Serpents.
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>>167761729
>phase 1: Crimson Bat
>phase 2: The Demon from Bellow joins
>phase 3: whichever survives turns into the Demon Prince
You what ?
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>>167762047
let's hope they do
>Oh man, i didn't like DaS2 as much as DaS1. time to make an entire series of videos comparing the weapon swing animations and Iframe differences because I hate this game so much

throw yourselves in the river, you fucks!
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I just want to see if there's some aesthetic armor in this DLC and some good faith shit
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>>167760645
Wasn't the old hunter dlc supposed to be two dlcs at first?
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>>167762264
I forgot about the claymore
Ok will do, thanks
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>>167761871
>>167761929

Petrification is a major them in the series. It's likely they were wood before becoming timeless stone. Hollows are used as tinder for the Fire. Stone doesn't burn.
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>>167762332
Nice edge, when did this ever happen?
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HOOOOLY FUCK

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s281/sh/393a0e74-5dd1-46d3-ae9b-42b9146bb82a/e1ec02ada85b6a30

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s281/sh/393a0e74-5dd1-46d3-ae9b-42b9146bb82a/e1ec02ada85b6a30

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s281/sh/393a0e74-5dd1-46d3-ae9b-42b9146bb82a/e1ec02ada85b6a30
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>>167762286
I'm guessing the Demon Prince was split into two when he was defeated, and when you beat the second phase the souls remerge back into one again. Which ever one you kill first changes the moveset of the 3rd phase.

>>167762413
Yes.
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VAATIS NOTES
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>>167761729
The banner is a key item.
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>>167761729
>vaati confirms earthen peak
>there were people denying this
lmao
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Why the fuck do these retards get the DLC ahead of everyone else?
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>>167761729
>Earthen Peak
LMAO
M
A
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>>167762439
souls and humanity are used as tinder for the fire not the physical body of the undead. hollows, the closest they are to going back to trees are useless because they don't have souls. petrification isn't a transformation to stone its a reversion to it.
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>>167762617
SHILLS
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>>167762496
>This old woman was once the wet nurse of royalty
OH FUCK
The High Priestess was a fucking Londor agent. Jesus fuck, we were played like a goddamn fiddle.
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>>167762496
>Call me Lapp. I can't remember my real name, so let's just go with that.
I have a feeling we're going to make a fabulous team. Oh, you'll see, you'll see!
ohh, in all honesty there's something i should tell you
I'm..a hollow. Yes, i try to play it off, but i haven't a clue about my past.
Who i was , or what i lived for. Not even my own blessed name.
That's why i've come here, searching - for the purging monument, said to be in the ringed city. Where the pygmies who found the dark souls at the dawn of fire reside.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>167762332
Is this the average maturity of the DaS2bab? Nobody is crying over a couple of DaS2 throwbacks, but you get defensive over your terrible game. Keep crying.
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>Murky Hand Scythe
>A short-shafted hand scythe wielded by the murkmen who rise from the depths.
>Enveloped by a black dampness, and imbued with the strength of dark.
>Skill: quickstep

>mfw
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>>167762525
>Mytha, the Baneful Queen's Soul
U wot m8 ?
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Desert Pyromancer Garb
Garb of the desert pyromancers, who once walked the halls of the earthn Peak. It is said that the thin, burgundy cloth breathes with magic.
Desert pyromancers, most of them female, were known for their great fans of flame, and enchanting looks.
But what is enchanting can also be deadly, especially when clothed in such alluring garb
HOLY FUCKING SHIT DESERT SORCERESS GARB IS BACK BOYS THE RECKONING IS AT HAND FOR THE AGE OF WAIFUS HAS BEGUN
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>>167762531
>youngest daughter
So it's not fucking Gwynevere.

God fucking dammit, they keep introducing new kids to this family.
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>>167762871
Damn it anon now I need sliders for a half decent female face.
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>>167762768
It's just a dark dagger, m8.
Probably recycles its base model from the Harpe.
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>>167762531
>all the faggots saying it's gonna be a fai spear
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>>167762871
Before the Age of Fire and the Age of Dragons, was the Age of Scantly Clad Waifus
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>they literally brought the slut armor back
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>>167760908
AYY BB
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>>167762496
>rematch with Mytha
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>>167762871
source my dude?
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>>167762909
it the painter for sure
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>>167762909
Wasn't Gwynevere the youngest child of Gwyn though?
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>>167763015
The painter's mother, the mother of dragons more likely.
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Fuck lmao, I just TODAY noticed fitgirl uploaded DS3 DLC... in fucking October, man.

Should I start my game anew and enjoy the improvement "patches" brought, or just keep my char and clear the DLC?
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>>167762993
it's a few posts above you pillock

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s281/sh/393a0e74-5dd1-46d3-ae9b-42b9146bb82a/e1ec02ada85b6a30
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>>167762871
>even more slutwear waifufags
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>>167763061
Gwyndolin was the youngest known child.
Gwynevere was the only known daughter, which would make the distinction "youngest daughter" redundant. That qualifier means that there's more than one daughter, which means that a new daughter, younger than Gwynevere, is being introduced.
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>>167762496
So the weapons that you can get up to the first boss fight are:

Splitleaf Greatsword
Murky Hand Scythe
Murky Longstaff
Aquamarine Dagger
Giant Door Shield
Harald Curved Greatsword
Mytha's Bent Blade
Demon's Scar (curved sword - boss soul weapon)

And the spells are:

Great Soul Dregs
Flame Fan
Seething Chaos (boss soul pyromancy)
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>>167762871
>Desert pyromancers, most of them female,
>most
LOOKS LIKE REVERSAL RING'S BACK ON THE MENU
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>>167763061
Gwyndolin was
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While I have my doubts about those "notes" by Vaati, how the fuck did you guys not see this coming?

>Desert Sorceress mirror catalyst is clearly visible in a promotional screenshot
>surely there won't be the possibility of adding the most popular slutwear of the franchise!
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>>167763172
>Demon's Scar (curved sword - boss soul weapon)
Its a claw weapon that also works as a pyrp flame
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>
Desert Pyromancer Garb
Garb of the desert pyromancers, who once walked the halls of the earthn Peak. It is said that the thin, burgundy cloth breathes with magic.
Desert pyromancers, most of them female, were known for their great fans of flame, and enchanting looks.
But what is enchanting can also be deadly, especially when clothed in such alluring garb


YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSAASSS"IJBLJHVLGJCKUGCKHGCKGHC
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I get why they bring back slut gear, but why Mytha?
Literally no one ever said "hey remember what would be a cool thing to come back in DS3? Mytha."
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>>167763172
Mytha's Bent Blade isn't in the game. He was just referencing DaS2 item descriptions as part of his little purple text thing. Vaati's just an idiot and forgot to distinguish it properly.
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>>167763273
Do you have more info about the new weapons ?
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Where were you when DS2 was

>CONFIRMED
>DIRECT
>CANON
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>>167763237
>While I have my doubts about those "notes" by Vaati,
Are you a fucking autist? Doesnt matter what you think of Vaati, that shit is 100% legit
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>>167763273
It's a curved sword, anon.
It's just shaped like the boss' talon. It's not an actual fist weapon.
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>>167763429
In Smouldering Lake, reading the King's Shield description. Why?
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>>167763401
Sry, i was a retard. Its a curved sword formed like a claw that can also cast pyromancy
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>>167763429
>implying it wasn't confirmed direct canon by literally a bunch of other shit in the base game already
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>Lore questions time

Ocelotte = Shanalotte?
Age of the Deep = Age of the Dark?
Old Dragonslayer in DaS2 = Ornstein?
Why does Irithyll look like Yharnam?
What are the undead pilgrims trying to achieve?
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inb4 speedrunners trivialize all of the angel sections by just chucking a high-angle firebomb and sprinting through
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>>167763429
Mechanically i dislike DaS 2 and the lore was too vague and inconclusive, but i never was as far as decided to even try to say that it wasn't canon. Which is good because some of the lore told interesting things.
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>>167762990
I think he just quoted the Mytha descriptions there cause of the connection
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>DS2 ISN'T CANON GUYS
BTFO
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>>167763746
Did you even watch the trailer? The first angel section at least looks pathetically easy to just run through. Unless the other sessions have double angels they won't be hard at all
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>Earthen Peak
>Of all places in ds2
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Who /unspoiled/ here?
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>>167763670
are the pilgrims looking for mental cleansing?
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>>167763881
not you
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>>167763853
Who knows, maybe it'll connect to Undead Crypt, and have pieces of Iron Keep that fell from the sky.
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>>167763826
Read the vaati description, entirely different mechanic later with the angels
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>>167762691
>your high priestess was an londor inside agent
>your grand scholar and your heir's mentor was a megalomaniac tree
>your wife left you
>your oldest son failed to kill the demon prince
>your youngest son defused to link the flame
>you are a dragon furry
J U S T
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>>167763670
The distinction between Deep and Dark at this point seems to be more like the distinction between Catholicism and Orthodoxy, i.e.: different doctrines regarding the same general beliefs rather than anything actually substantial like worshipping different things altogether.
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>Flame Fan
>requires 15 Faith/15 Int
>Pyromancy of Zoey, descendant of the desert pyromancers. Use repeatedly to brush the fan left and right
>Zoey possessed true beauty, as did all the desert pyromancers, but hers did not poison, and so she became the unassuming queen of the feeble ones.
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>>167763961
He said it's harder but if you've ever watched Vaati actually play Souls you'd notice he's pretty shit.
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>>167763853
>Earthen Peak
>most widely shitposted about area in DaS2
>'lmao elevator'
>Memeazaki reveals he was simply pretending to be retarded and that the nonsensical architecture was a working as intended
Truly a visionary genius.
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>>167763826
That isn't the "section" anon, just the introduction to the mechanic.

The angel follows you with a spotlight of curse while you're in the open. You're forced to stop and hide behind cover until it looks away to avoid dying to curse buildup.

Or you can just chuck a firebomb really high up and have it fall directly on the angel's phylactery, disabling it instantly.
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>>167755391
Gravity is convoluted in this DLC.
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>>167764002
Is Zoey 101 canon now?
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>>167764002
FEEBLE CURSED ONE
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>>167764002
So Pyro Farron Flashsword
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>>167764035
>they decided to bring back one of the worst areas in the series for no other reason than to have an excuse to bring back slutwear with it
Priorities.
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Zoey is my new waifu
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>>167763934
salty
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>>167764002
FEEBLE
E
E
B
L
E
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>>167764115
honestly, if this is the end of the series and the base game has been pandering already, you might as well go all out
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So then, did Aldia visit the Ringed City at some point?
Is that why he came back as a flaming tree and talked about "the roots of our world"
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>>167762990
I hope this faggot makes a comeback
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>>167763853
It could be worse. It could be Iron Passage.
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>>167763670
No. To most of the questions. Being that apparently the second game happens in another location, entirely.
The deep and the dark seems to be like the same thing said in a different style, but also seems that the abyss is a corruption of the deep and both in consequence are originated from the dark, i guess.
The pilgrims seem to look for a champion, to kill something, like in the AoA.
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>>167760818
>30fps in 2017
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>the new dark sorcery is just the next tier of deep soul, one of the most worthless spells in the game
Awesome. Another ranged damage projectile with slight tracking is EXACTLY what Dark Souls magic needed.
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>>167764301
i fucking want that set again
my main ds2 character was a cosplay of him
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>>167764301
as an invader
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Miyazaki is just straight up memeing at this point.
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>>167764348
SILENCE
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>>167764272
inb4 right next to the boss fog of the final boss you find a corpse covered in roots and get from it Aldia's soul.
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>>167764393
Hope it's at least this.>>167754889
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So I guess I should go finish DS2 before the expansion?
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>>167764452
>at this point
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>>167764557
Yes
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How can anyone still deny that we will meet the Pigmy at the center of the ringed city?
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>>167764473
>implying the final boss won't be Aldia, Lord of the Ringed City
>humanoid made of flaming tree-roots with an enormous darksign in its chest, wielding a pair of transforming weapons
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What sl range will get me regular invasions in NG+ Aldrich? Sl120?
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>>167764557
No
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>>167764680
70sl
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>>167764620
Now that they've literally namedropped Pygmies, it's pretty much undeniable.
>an entire civilization of people like pre-abyss Manus.
It does raise the question, though, if the "Pygmies"-plural were the things that inherited the Dark Soul, what is all this shit about humans being dark that's been the defining motif for like the entire series.
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>>167764620
he might be there but I doubt we'll meet him, he's the fucking furtive pygmy, he'll be hiding.
>inb4 the Dark Soul is found on a tiny corpse hidden inside a pot in a random corner
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>>167763670
>Why does Irithyll look like Yharnam?

They kinda have similar architectural style. Gothic-style and Victorian Gothic. Just because two cities are built in the same style doesn't mean it is the same city.
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>no Maldron
DLC2 confirmed worst DLC.
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>>167764557
Yes. Good way to kill time and catch up on the lore before dlc2.
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>>167764620
>finally meet the pigmy
>ends up to be some shitty ds1 torch-hollow
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>>167764458
Hey, I had a nice idea; you noticed that Miyazaki's DLCs are accessed through a cave, right? On this DLC it could be Iron Passage. Great, huh? :^)
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>>167763751
I put ds1 and 3 above ds2, but ds2 had some neat side stories.
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>>167764854
>can't design challenging AI for an invader
>make one that ignores rules from the game
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>>167764620
Because almost never these games have given a straight answer to anything. And that would be a to straight forward way to end the game. It seems more likely that as someone pointed out the dark soul is lying around in a unimportant place and later we gotta fight for it in some kind of duel, with the funny idea that an old monk mechanic for the dark soul seems interesting.
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>>167762531
>Lord Gwyn gifted the Ringed City and his youngest daughter to the pygmies
Was this shit ever mentioned before ?
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>>167763670
>Why does Irithyll look like Yharnam?
LITERALLY because they had unused Boodborne assets
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>>167764880
>literally just an unstaggerable torch hollow with a ton of health
>it's the final boss of the series
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>>167764952
>he believes in gravity
Your fault.
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>>167762496
PYROMANCY FLAME CURVED SWORD

So pyromancy gets a broken ass weapon purely by concept. As if we didn't have enough broken curved swords
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Oh my fucking god. How does this make sense?
Gywn was allied with the Dark. He gifted the dark Pygmies the Ringed City.
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>>167764620
I literally cannot fathom why anyone would want to do that. He's furtive. He's easily forgotten. He's supposed to be of absolutely no consequence whatsoever beyond being the one who ruined everything for everyone by infecting the world with Humanity for the devil knows what reason. Attaching a character, reasoning, plot presence, or worst of all, making him a boss battle would be the greatest disservice possible.
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>>167764952
>gravity doesn't hurt you in the Dreg Heap
HE COMES
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>>167764880
>>167764785
That would be great. The Pigmy should be a small, weak humanoid
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>>167764952
And we love him for it.
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>>167764446
Purple Phantom of course.
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>>167764747
In new game plus. NG+ not NG.

Sl50 to sl70 is for new game.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifhy9pp1pAw
why is Vaati spoiling the gameplay REEEEEEEEEE
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>>167765089
He wasn't allied with them. The Ringed City is like a containment city. It's a quarantine to keep the Dark away from his Age of Fire by stuffing it at the ass end of all creation. He basically gave it to them out of appeasement and told them to fuck off forever.
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>>167765017
No. This is the first time it was mentioned.
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>>167765039
>he ends up being just as vicious as orphan of kos, considered hardest and best boss in soulsborne
>torch has crazy kos parasite tier moveset
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Whoever makes the next thread make sure to include this link for further discussions
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s281/sh/393a0e74-5dd1-46d3-ae9b-42b9146bb82a/e1ec02ada85b6a30
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>>167765089
Think more like refugees and other undesirable people.
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>>167763881
From now on I get my spoilers from still images on /dsg/.

You guys are retarded but not Bamco marketing team levels of retarded.
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>>167765174
because he's a YUGE cocksucker
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>>167765298
This. As well as the new Bamco video.
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>>167765174
just don't watch it you weak willed coward
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>Seething Chaos
>This pyromancy hurls a clump of chaos
>hurls

Dropped.
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>>167764880
I picture the fight going like this
>phase one is SoC-esque, a humanoid with elaborate dark-themed armour using some unique weapon
>As his HP bar is depleted, he sheds more and more armour, changing his weapon and moveset each time (similar to SoC's transforming weapon, but referencing player builds/playstyles not covered by SoC, like dual-wielding, hexer, etc.)
>In his 3rd phase, all of his armour is shed, leaving him as just a desiccated hollow in a loincloth, unarmed. He fights you with his bare fights, flailing and screeching wildly like some abyssal kung-fu Orphan of Kos
>Soul makes the Bone Fist
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sooooo the bat boss duo behaves like smpughornstein eh?

whichever you kill first changes the final phase.

sweeeeet
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>>167765170
70 is ideal for everyone, shitter
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Isn't pic related Gwyn's youngest daughter ?
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>>167765594
>he can't beat sully under SL 50
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So anyone who knows what that sorcerer sword weapon is yet?
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>More bosses than AoA
>Bat is the first boss
>Angel is no boss
Sweet, that means we have AT LEAST 2 more unknown bosses
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>>167765458
The description makes the spell sound lame as fuck.
It throws a fireball, like every fucking other ranged fire spell
And then it explodes after a delay for a secondary tick of damage.

Like wow, congrats, you crossed Fireball with Flame Swathe. Awesome DLC content there. Glad I payed for this.

Worth noting that the fucking Demon boss soul makes 2 pyro-exclusive things again so non-pyro builds get literally nothing from killing it. Better yet, an actual pyro build will have to go through twice because they will obviously want both a new spell and a new casting tool/weapon.
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>>167765489
>soul gives you a ring with causes your fists to scale heavily with luck
>turns you unarmed moveset into a crazy spastic fast like orphan of kos that moves around like crazy and gives you quickstep if you have no weapons or armour equipped
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>>167765616
I give up trying make sense of this nonsense for now.
I'll wait until more clear information is available. If they start introducing more children to Gwyn's family, and worse, actually confirm Yorshka as Gwyn's child, this is going to be the moment for me when it all will have jumped the shark.

Right at the finish line, too. Oh well.
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>making me install this game

I dropped this right after I discovered the Ancient Dragon and entering Iron Keep. However, I don't remember ever getting a clear idea about any sort of story or lore outside of LEST despite reading item descriptions and talking to NPCs. Who and what things should I pay more attention too?
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>>167765642
Aquamarine Dagger.
Vaati, the enormous faggot that he is, avoided writing down the weapon art which suggests that it's probably the thing that toggles it into lightsaber mode.
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>>167765817
Vendrick
Aldia
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>>167765616
Could be. Or maybe it's that egg girl from the first DLC2 trailer.
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>>167765817
Interact with Vendrick's armor once you have the Ashen Mist Heart and talk to him in his memory. When you collect the crowns (beat the final bosses) of the DLCs, you unlock additional dialogue with Vendrick.
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>>167765594
So you can't actually answer my question. Sl70 is fine, but I'd like to try going past sl80 for once.

So what's the ng+ soul level for consistent invasions in Aldrich and the swamp covenant? Can anyone tell me?
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Velka-fag descends into /dsg/

Inb4 Gwyn's youngest daughter is Velka and the reason she's so brooding and punishes sinners and hates gods is because Gwyn never fulfilled his promise to return for her.

desu Gwyn's youngest daughter is probably the sleeping bitch with the dragon egg that we see, she's probably the mother of dragons.
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>>167765817
Wellager
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>>167756908
>>they're both guarding the real boss

DEEP SMELTER DEMON
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>>167765817
>after discovering ancient dragon and entering IK
So, after you discovered late game content you entered an area need to go to before shrine of winter? Or did you really farm that many souls?
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>>167766032

Velka could be Gwynns wife for all we know.
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Is that a fucking darkwraith in the new DLC video?
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>mfw the new DLC is resulting in all this DEEPEST LORE
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>>167766162
I think he means the dragon corpse in Tseldora
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Cant wait for based Malcolm Reynolds to instacurse faggots with the new curse powers
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>>167766032
>Gwyn's youngest daughter gives birth to dragons
>Gwyn's eldest son allies himself with dragons
POTTERY
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>>167766012
>, but I'd like to try going past sl80 for once
Enjoy no multiplayer
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>>167764349
In the Souls universe time and space get convoluted and converge. That's why you can find Havel's armor in all games for example.
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I know DS2 is the worst game of the series, but why does it get so much hate?
It is better than 80% of games nowadays
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>>167766032
>>167766176

If this DLC doesn't answer the questions around Big-Tits McGee and Velka, and instead ignores them to introduce another Gwyn daughter as well as a bunch of one off characters with no bearing to the series plot then I'm done with Memezaki and From.
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>>167766162

Isn't the DLC with the huge chains called Iron Keep?
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>>167766665
memes
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>>167766665

>off by one

by being compared directly to the first game
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>>167766713
No that's Brume Tower or some shit.
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>>167766287
>a ponyfag
>based
>inb4 "i-i-it was a ruse!"
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>>167766665
the people who hate on it don't play other games, there's 3-5 games in their world and its the worst one.
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>>167766703
If Velka actually makes an appearance in the DLC, I'll eat my own shit.
She's been teased for so long that I have no doubts she's only mentioned to fuck with players.
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>>167766665
A bunch of it is hype backlash from how shitty the game turned out compared to the pre-release trailers and footage. If you didn't fall for the hype, it's a decent game.

>>167766703
>not already resigning yourself to the eventuality that is how Miyazaki "writes" these games
You're going to be extremely disappointed.

>>167766713
That's Brume Tower. Iron Keep is the lava castle in the sky above Earthen Peak.
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>>167766856

Velka already appeared in the form of Friede

Friede changed her appearance to look live Velka.

So real Velka would look the same.
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>>167766703
Gwynevere is Velka, she went off to marry Flann and get hella into punishing sin, Gwyndolin is a huge siscon so he just got the darkmoon hunting the guilty stuff from her.
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>>167766665

After a game like DaS1 people have expectations. DaS2 didn't meet them.
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>>167766032
It's a fact that Velka existed, but make a character out of vague descriptions it's too much, given that she seems to be the key to solve the lore, which is bad now that it's more likely that she will never actually appear.
And the other maybe as it is now unanswerable mystery is who was the mother of the sons of Gwyn, maybe another goddess for the first two, the pretty ones. And maybe some kind of dragon for the ugly ones.
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>>167766856
At this point I'd settle for an item that just tells you shit about her or Gwynevere instead of her actually appearing.
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>>167767039

There's also the Velka = Witch of Izalith theory
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>>167765017
>the Great Lord
Not gwyn you dumbass
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>>167766665
Hardcore fans hated it because they expected more DaS1 and didn't get more DaS1.

Casuals hate every souls game., They rag on the difficulty and design as much as they can get away with. The whole "git gud" meme started way back as a way of calling out faggots that wanted to whine about finding something difficult and attempted to wrap it in limp-dicked "criticism" as though to make their childish complaining sound legitimate. It's always been a thing.

DaS1 was just so unanimously praised, both by its large community and critics, that criticising it became contrarian. Normalfags avoid contrarianism like the plague because they're afraid of being alone with an unpopular opinion, so they just paid lipservice to the greatness of DaS1 as to not differentiate themselves from the group.

DaS2 had no such "group" because it was unpopular with the series' core fans. Thus everyone could rag on it as much as they want, whine about every single death or difficulty, pretend their whining was actually an intellectual and academic analysis of its objective flaws, and get a round of pats on the back from every other faggot also upset that they had rolled at the wrong time.

Whatever is seen as the consensus opinion becomes the "only" opinion, because people base their impression of something on how they feel about the consensus opinion rather than how they feel about the thing itself. Most like to be supported by consensus and will adopt it regardless of what it is in order to fit in. Some enjoy being contrary to it and will seek to be contrary no matter what the consensus is. Those people are never taken seriously.

If you want an honest opinion about DaS2, play it yourself. Anybody you ask is going to give you a stock answer fed to them, through internet memes and social cliques.
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>>167767110
Read the image again, very carefully, then get back to me.
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>>167767110
In the item description Gywn is refereed to as "The great lord" faggot.
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What if the gods of Anor Londo fled to the RInged City before Gwyn linked the fire ?
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>Gwyn promised to return to his youngest daughter after sending her off to notHell
Somewhat reminded me of Persephone. I hope we don't get any new characters to add to the lore, was looking forward to answering questions on the whereabouts of Gods and Goddesses we didn't get a chance to see and the previous cast from DS1 + DS2

Seriously, a fourth child? The fuck m8
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>>167767292
The Gods of Anor Londo founded Lothric, anon. Try to keep up.
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>>167767126
This is the true lore of the Souls series.
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>>167767294
Fifth child. Don't forget Yorshka
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Post yfw the Ringed City is Lordran

>Walls in ring shape

>Like in Undead Burg

>And the unreachable area

>And all the consecutive ring walls below

>Ant it's at the end of the land
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>>167767110
>envoys of Great Lord Gwyn
Faggot.
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>stealth section against a cursing angel
sounds so fucking cool
imagine invading there
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>>167767372
How can the Ringed City be Lordran when Anor Londo is in Irithyll.
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>>167766565
I realise that, but I've watched videos where the host is above sl100 and getting invaded and invading easily. It seems like there's just a massive dead zone between sl80 and sl120. It seems like sl120 is still slower than sl80, but sl90 is basically dead.

This is just conjecture though, I've only had one player character go past sl100 and i gave ip on her almost immediately into ng+. I need to test all this some how. Beat the game at sl80, the go up in increments of 5 or 10 and test the multiplayer in each area of the game at each integer. Record the results and see if there really is a deadzone.
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>>167766665
I don't like how 2 approached PvP, area design and the massive amount of duel pandering
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>>167767372
We've already seen images and footage of the ringed city, it isn't Lordran.
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>>167764760

Humans are descendants of the Pygmies.
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>>167767372
Isn't the Undead Asylum located at the end of the land?
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>>167767423

Because muh lands converge.

DaS3 is not geographically accurate or representative of the "unfucked world" order.

All the lands are mixed together.
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>>167767372
>Ringed City is Lordran
They made it clear that Gwyn went down there only briefly and never came back. No way it's Lordran, especially when we find Izalith in smouldering lake.
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Gwyndolin is Gwyn's youngest and was for all practical purposes a daughter.

I can't reconcile Gwyndolin's story at all with being given to the pygmies though, it'd be a hell of an asspull.

>>167767369
though if Yorshka counts as one of his kids then she'd be the youngest daughter, and her exile to the fringes of the world would explain how she doesn't know fucking anything except what Gwyndolin told her.
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>>167756382
play Bloodborne if that's what you want.
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>hey guys you will totally be making your way back through layer upon layer of ruins from different eras and times, calling back to the lore of previous titled
>nevermind, you just go from Lothric to Harvest Valley, fight an out-of-place demon and then get teleported right to the Ringed City
I'd be laughing if I hadn't paid for this shit.

What a fucking journey. We get to retread a main game area, but this time sideways, and then take a short skip and a hop through a single shitty zone from 2 before our "journey" to find the Ringed City is over.
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DLC sounds absolutely awesome so far and makes it clear that separation of Ariandel and Ringed City was forced by Bamco.
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>>167767462
The small soapstone is neat though.
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>>167767489
The undead asylum is deep and high into the mountains that serve as the barrier to Lordran from the outside world, it's at the ends of the earth so speak because its the furthest possible place man can reach, but it's actually geographically close to the center, since the Londo and the Kiln of the First Flame are the center of the world.
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>>167767694
>>167767729

Such polarity. Really makes me think.
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>Murky Longstaff
>The long-handled staff wielded by the murkmen who rise from the depths
Slathered with a black murkiness, and fit for dark sorceries.

Oh fuck yes, I was getting sick of the Izalith Staff being such shit.
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>yfw DLC ending is something like pic related
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Holy fuck. We're gonna find the Dark Soul. We're gonna do it senpaitachi!
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>>167767101
I've read about that, seems way too contrived.
>>167767372
The ringed city it's more like dump for things with all the architecture in imposible orientations and the sensation of walking in a katamari. Maybe it's around the kiln of the first flame.
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Was Vaati the only "pillar" who got to play the DLC ?
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>>167767931
DLC's ending is going to just be all about painter loli and her little sidequest.
We aren;t actually going to get a self-contained ending to DLC2. It'll end abruptly with the last boss dead, just like DLC 1.

The "ending" will require both DLCs
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>>167767931
>nothing actually consequential or conclusive will happen in the dlc because it has to take place in the middle of the game and the ending is still the end of the story
>the dlc will end with the player killing a character they've never seen before who's three lines of dialogue and soul's description answer one question and raise 5
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>Seething Chaos (pyromancy)
Are you faggots ready to wreck shit even harder as pyromancers?
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>>167767841
Oh wait, posted too soon.

>Great Soul Dregs
>A sorcery that fires great dark soul dregs that have stewed for ages, far within the deep.

>This sorcery is the highest form of Deep Soul

>Some of the murkmen who rise from the depths are possessed by soul dregs, which have a grave likeness to the human form

New staff, bigger Great Deep Soul. Okay, that's cool.

But what about Affinity? Does that mean it's still shit? I hope they don't nerf Twisted Wall of Light any time soon.
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>>167768107
Yeah, remember how strong floating chaos was?
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>>167768107
It's just a chaos fireball, use his soul on the weapon.
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>>167768028
There were some others who haven't posted their videos yet.
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>>167768192
>doing it wrong
What you do is make the spell, then have another anon back up their save to give you the weapon too.
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Is there any confirmation to the authenticity of those DLC2 notes? Don't want to put it in the next OP if it's just trollish bait.
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>>167768225

I only saw the Vaati one and that banner description fucking blew me away.
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>>167768225
Meant to reply to>>167768072
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>>167768258
They're from Vaati, he played up to the demon boss. His "authenticity" and reputation would take a massive hit if he were talking shit, so it's about as trustworthy as you're going to get.
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>>167768258
It's straight from Vaati, linked in the description of the video he put out today now that the embargo's listed.

It's about as credible as he is, which means it's probably plagiarized from someone more credible.
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>>167765616
Literally nothing implies Yorshka is Gwyn's daughter

Where the FUCK are you people getting this
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>>167768258
Vaati's new video. The notes are in the description.
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>>167768373
>Yoshka refers to Gwyndolin as older brother
>Gwyndolin is Gwyn's youngest born
That's how, they just connect the dots
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>>167767039

There's a Purging Monument that exists that can supposedly cure Hollowing, like the statue of Velka in 3 and the Purging Stones.

Velka is definitely going to get some sort of exposure in this DLC.
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>>167768258
pls put it in a pastebin, don't link it to that thing
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>>167768373
Well nothing but Yorshka's own dialogue, which isn't definitive evidence either but it's a start.
I know, I don't like the idea either.
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>>167768373
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/company-captain-yorshka
her dialogue
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>>167767931
My god, it's full of lore!
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>>167768107
I'm waiting in anticipation anon, but there are so many potential good pyromancies and so less att slots. All I want right now is lingering flame and my pyro will be fucking complete.
>>167768149
Great Soul Dregs are going to be dark CSS isn't it? About time we get a dark magic nuke, here's hoping for more sorceries, hexes and miracles.
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>>167768475

I guess you're referring to the "Father Gwyn" bit. "Father" can be used as a religious term, not literally meaning "My father".
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>>167768373
She says she is.

Personally I'd call it unlikely because the only reason why she'd still be naive at the age she'd need to be at to be Gwyn's kid is if Miyazaki has a massive fetish for naive women to go along with the foot fetish.
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I finally figured it out

ds3 is direct sequel to das where we see the endgame of the concepts introduced there and a lot of the story revolves around what the people in it went on to do. ds2 is a different story set in the same world.

this is why people bitch about ds2 not being canon and also ds3 being "hey guys remember that epic thing from das?" the game
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>>167768467
Considering that it's color-coded, that's going to take some doing.
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>desert sorceress confirmed

Please, Memehacki. Give me back my DS2 tier slut gear.
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>>167768534
Yeah, but she also says "sister Gwynevere" and referes to Gwyndolin as "elder brother"" in every sentence.
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>>167768572
It straight up makes sense if she was locked up in the ringed city for most of existence and then when shit started to hit the fan with the age of fire she managed to get out, met Gwyndolin and he kind of filled in the blanks for her.
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>>167768513
More likely it'll just be a dark GHSA. GDS is only about as strong as GSA, after all.
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>>167768662

Nuns are called sisters. As for elder brother, adopted maybe. I don't think he is her actual daughter, there is no implication of any daughters other than Gwynevere in Dark Souls 1
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>>167768587
No shit. Dark Souls sets up the story, DS2 goes with a different one, but DS3 is the final game and has the most callbacks to the first one because the most important things happened in 1. Kind of works because 2 is all about defying the curse and shit. DS2 happened to be stuck in the middle of two ends that can't help but be connected to each other.
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>>167768714
GHSA is almost as strong as soul spears for way less cost, hopefully this is the case.
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>>167768735
There is implications now that we know that there's an unaccounted for youngest daughter.
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>>167768841
>>167768841
>>167768841
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>>167762496

>mini scythe with quickstep WA

OH BABY
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>>167768735
There was no implication in DaS1 that Gwyn gifted an entire fucking city to pygmies, either.
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Yorshka is probably related to Priscilla which is still technically a daughter to Gwynevere if the whole Seath and Gwynevere shit was real. If not, Gwyndolin probably took pity on the weird bitch and had her think she was part of the family when Gwyndolin was so alone
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>>167762531
>>167762956
Overgrown Lothric Knights
Covered in thin vines.
One uses the Lothric War Banner.

Lothric War Banner
The flagpole that once carried the Lothric crest, and guided the knights long ago.
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s281/sh/393a0e74-5dd1-46d3-ae9b-42b9146bb82a/e1ec02ada85b6a30
vaati's notes. get fucked my boys
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OH SHIT I CAN ALREADY SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO END

In true fashion, the end is inevitable, so the Undead, having finished their quest have nothing left to do. All that they can do is:

Spend the last of their days enjoying what time they have left, doing what they know best: Fighting...in the arena located at the World's End...till it all ends for good. This is why it was added in the previous DLC. Because it is all you will have left.

Pottery.
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>>167769001
or screwing firekeeper waifu
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>>167762496
>https://www.evernote.com/shard/s281/sh/393a0e74-5dd1-46d3-ae9b-42b9146bb82a/e1ec02ada85b6a30
>This phase is a fight against the camera.
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>>167773260
Every multiboss is a challenge in camera control, and we know Vaati is shit at camera control
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>>167769108
do not lewd the firekeeper
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>>167754530
>HERE IT IS.
this look like hunters
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