/dsg/ - Demons/Dark Souls General

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First for /ourguy/

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>>167618942
Second for best goddess (male)

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I want to FUCK this artist.

(特大剣)
>竜血の大のはさみ
>ペアの特大剣どの重さと、攻撃力を備えている

>両方の刃にドラゴンの血を表す模様が彫刻されています

>戦技は「細断する」
>両方の剣を組み合わせて巨大なはさみを形成する
>大量の失血を引き起こすために細断する

(Oversized sword)
Dragon Blood's big scissors
A pair of oversized sword which has weight and attack power

A pattern representing the blood of the dragon is engraved on both blades

Warfare techniques "shred"
Combine both swords to form huge scissors
Shred to cause massive blood loss

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MOMMY ROSARIA
MOMMY ROSARIA
MOMMY ROSARIA
MOMMY ROSARIA

Nth for Bestlord Nito.

>>167619129
I want her to stay dead when I kill her.

>>167618942
I NEED TO KNOW WHO THIS GAY BUTTERFLY IS!

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>>167619129
Nah, the little freak probably has scales there

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>>167619082
>>167619128
>bluecucks can't get even the first post for their deceased non-god so they have to settle down for sloppy seconds
LAMO

>>167619278
oooo they're very skinny and smooth

I want more fire keeper legs fanart...

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>tfw will miss dlc release again because want to stay unspoiled
>youtube retards have been arranged by Bamco to spoil shit to distract people from Nioh

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Willing to stream later tonight, but which game?
Fight club?

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repostan

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/143494
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/143499

the 13 dex lets me use the ghru curved sword if I want, but it isn't a big deal if I only got 12

one build has a little more boulder damage and some more equipload, the other has more luck for poison and 50 more hp

>>167618634
>put Saint-tree Bellvine in right hand and you don't need sage
yeah but it needs to be active, doesn't it? I'm pretty sure it doesn't give you the bonus if you've got it in the pocket.

>>167619278
>implying scales cant be nice and silky

>>167619421

3.

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>>167619246
forgot pic

>>167619469
it's either going to hurt on the way in or on the way out. it's how scales work

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A new challenger approaches.

>>167619328
>more
...does any already exist?
post it

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>>167619398
>Going to have to stop coming here to avoid DLC spoilers
>Won't have anywhere to vent when I get salty about people in arena

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>>167619398
>mfw they stream Nioh and For Honor anyway
get fucked Bamco

>>167619578
You never had a pet reptile, have you?
Scales are more complex than that.

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>>167619552
You already know the answer to that

>>167619583
I want to cuddle him.

>>167619632
>stopped coming to /dsg/ for a while
>suddenly pick up DS1 and come back to post about my adventures
>first fucking thing I see is AoA spoilers
>didn't even know DS3 already had a dlc

Shit sucks man.

>>167619421
DaS3 will get the most people

>>167619552
According to the leak
>1488 Archangel Sulyvahn

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>>167619632
Well I'm sure we'll find SOME community to exile ourselves into....

>>167619467
yeah, but it's not like you're heavily relying on those spells. your choice

>>167619583
>tripfag AND attention whore
Straight into the filter.

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>>167619128

>>167619752
I think there's media types who have had access to the DLC already so leave for a month if you don't want more spoilers.

>>167619812
>and
>implying there are tripfags who aren't attention whores

What's the minimum str/dex to wield most infusable weapons?

>>167619789
it isn't a bad idea but if I've got resin on my spear I can't switch weapons

>>167619774
I've actually tried DaS3 reddit before anon
I just can't do it they're all actually genuinely retarded I swear to fucking god

>>167619934
depends on what weapon class, but the highest of both would be like 20/20 or close to

>>167618802
>>one of the few/only npc who refers Frampt by name
what? no he doesn't. only anastacia and ingward do

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behead those who speak ill of the high lord

>>167619951

15-16 STR and 18 DEX will let you use 95% of weapons in the game.

>>167619583
draw porn

>>167620045
good shit
but use rouge instead of flamearc if youre a real cool dude

>>167620045
What the fuck is this?! Carthus is a land of peace.

Thinking about running DaS1 again, but I literally have no idea what to do different this time, it feels like I've already done everything

>>167620137
>use a living meme instead of a more or less balanced weapon buff

>cold and cozy weather outside
>wrapped in blankets
>notice I have still a couple of gigs' worth of data left in my plan
>use it or lose it because it refreshes tomorrow

Quick, which are the best soulsborne youtube channels for random interesting pve contents ?

>>167620137
It really depends, honestly. Carthus was home to weird ass Pyromancies as well as heavy focus on bleed. He could use both, I suppose.

>>167620261
>implying memes are bad

>>167620045
hello what shield is that

>>167620310
i mean both the bleed resin and the flame buff have "Carthus" as the first word in their name.
neither is out of character

>>167620431
Carthus shield, it's a semi-rare drop in my experience, in spite of not being very good.

>>167620431
The one that drops from carthus jumpy ninja skelingtons. Its rubbish.

>>167620045
>13 Vigor barely being held together by FaP and Life Rings
>neutered by Bloodring
>and only 11 Endurance for rolling
Yeah, good luck twinking with that.

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>>167620070
I can't draw for shit though.

>>167620667
It's a work in progress, my friend. Not even planning on being a twink, really.

>>167620667
>twinkbabby complains about someone who dares to have fun in invasions

>>167620668
>posting real life pictures
Please stop before you do something irrevocable.

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>>167619583
>>167620668
>some softsbaby that weren't even around monkeys fcs
AWAY
AWAY

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Please tell me hollow builds are secretly really good and I'm just doing it wrong.

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>>167620045
Well said, brother. Together we should be able to drive the kafir from the Catacombs, so that none shall desecrate the tomb of the High Lord (peace be upon him).

>>167620865
It's not like I'll show you my dick or anything...

>>167620947
I've been here all this time, I just decided to do a trip from here on out. I have nothing to hide, and I promise, I'm not going to be the next Lucy.

>>167620045
why are you using the life ring instead of the prisoner's chain at that level? Why are you using the life ring at all? With only 13 vig the life ring multiplier doesn't even add 5 levels worth of health, you may as well use the hunter's ring then drop down five points of dex to add five vig. And you're probably better off using rouge instead of flame arc.

compare the stats on that build to this one:

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/143507

this is level eight, and it's got 200 more HP than yours. That's like an extra third almost, more than enough to compensate for the prisoner's chain penalty. If you want to use the prisoner's chain just replace the knights ring I put in and add 5 dex. You could even replace the ring of favor since this build also has more endurance than yours even without it.

beats me if I've got the best infusion for the curved sword, mugenmonkey only shows AR at +10

>>167620259
Have you done a pure archer run?

>>167621083
>I'm not going to be the next lucy

You already are you fucking idiot.

>>167621058
I like this one a lot

The other one looks a lil goofy

>>167621083
Just being a tripfag at all makes you cancer. Stop while there's still time. It doesnt benefit anyone to have an identity here.

>>167621083
>I'm not lucifer

ahahhahahahahahahahahhaahahah

>>167621038
Hollow isn't for better AR. It's for getting better buildup without completely gimping your damage. Very few weapons actually benefit more from hollow

>>167621038
get a flamburger and use carthus buff on it. hollow builds are only good for bleed builds.

>>167621141
Can confirm these are fun. They manage to be underpowered and overpowered at the same time. The whole combat system becomes odd when you can initiate combat at nearly any range while still doing less damage than melee in general.

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>>167621083
all tripfags go autistic one way or the other

>>167621153
>>167621258
I understand why you'd be upset, but Lucy is a toxin to this community. I'm here to provide subjectivity, assistance, and the rebirth to the state that this general so deserves to return to before all of this happened.

>>167620668
Well then improve on your drawing skills, instead of improving on tripfagging

>>167621551
A tripfag literally cannot do any of those things by virtue of being a tripfag.

>I'm here to provide subjectivity, assistance, and the rebirth to the state that this general so deserves to return to before all of this happened.
For someone trying so hard to not be lucy, you sure are fucking indistinguishable from the faggot.

>>167619774
If you can keep it civil, /bbg/ might be understanding and accepting. BB posting sometimes gets here, so it seems fair

>>167621551
>return
Luci's been here from the start
>provide
You can do that without a trip, moron. Now fuck off

>>167621551
Fuck off Lucifer. This is the last (you) you'll get from me.

>>167621551
>I'm here to provide subjectivity
as if we didn't have enough

>the state that this general so deserves to return to before all of this happened
>M/DSG/GA
nothing bad has happened to dsg because nothing ever fucking happens here
we barely even have any porn

>>167621542
Remember Darkwraith Kirk?
Boy, his was strong autism.

>>167621542
>this pic

Wew.
I agree that not summoning someone just because he's a tripfag is retarded, but that tripfag's retardation is beyond infinite

Why did DS2 hate invasions so much?

>The belfry areas are hidden behind pharros walls and completely optional (sotfs even moves the ember out of it), compared to the forest hunter covenant which not only has an mandatory boss but links into other areas so people can just wander in
>Likewise the rat covenant is in areas that are technically in the path of progression but you can skip the areas entirely and rather easily
>Likewise the invasion aspect of pilgrims of dark is set away to a series of hidden and optional areas.
>There are a limited amount of buyable cracked red orbs until NG+ and no full orb, meaning invaders have to grind duels/drops
>This in a game with soul memory that means you will eventually be pushed out of the level range for an area as you invade/grind for orbs (unless you buy a ring that's sold by a petrified man in a semi-hidden room that's full of respawning bomb enemies that was eventually patched it)
>When invasions are less frequent they felt that blue invaders should only be able to invade people with 10 sin points, instead of any amount, meaning that blue invasions will almost never happen.
>There's no actual red invasion covenant, you can max out brotherhood of blood without doing a single invasion because you just need to pick up the one token in grave of saints and then duel endlessly.

>>167621768
Technically, we have tons of porn. It's just that /dsg/ doesn't typically link lewds in the OP like the shitty generals do.

Also, it's 60% gay porn, 40% firekeeper, and virtually all from DkS1 and BB.

>>167615253
>since hollowing is a good thing
Why?

Also talking of useless items, Repair Powder, why doesn't durability work in this game?

>>167619981
It's reddit, what did you expect?

>>167621542
I'm pretty sure that this dude was just baiting
nobody can be THIS autistic

>>167621768
>nothing bad has happened to dsg
I distinctly remember 4kings posting. I also see people screaming about Lucifer every day, and now apparently there's the "first jailer" poster.

>>167621768
>we barely even have any porn
http://rule34hentai.net/post/list/Dark_Souls/1
http://rule34hentai.net/post/list/Demon%27s_Souls/1

>>167621982
>Technically, we have tons of porn.
pretty sure I can count all the doujins on my fingers anon

>>167619821
>breasts

DELET THIS

>>167621985
Has no negative effects, gives positive boost to Hollow-infused weapons. Lorewise it's a terrible curse that no one would ever ask for, mechanically it's all benefits and no downsides.

>>167622015
Please kindly stop. There's not a damn thing a tripfag would be able to do about any other shitty tripfag or shitposter, and you're cosmically retarded if you think otherwise.

Just fuck off, and quickly. You're starting to get worse than lucy on his bad days.

>>167621985
if you use hollow-infused weapons, you get a bonus to your luck based on how hollowed you are
caps at +5 IIRC

>>167621551
>>167622015

>tripfag
>rebirth

Yeah, rebirth into complete ass. Every tripfag turns into autism because when you say something that is completely wrong we can point to it and say "look at you! you are fucking retarded!" and there is no way that you can lose that.

>>167622091
>doujins
I thought you meant r34 in general.

>>167622132
He literally has breasts, anon. Never looked at his model?
>>167622169
But muh face

>>167621768
>nothing ever fucking happens here
I can't speak for DaS1 and before but DaS2 up till now has had a few notable events
>CE wizards terrorizing Soulbrandt streamers
>hacking in to the DLC
>CE in general
>FCs back when they were good
>SOTFS
>That one fucking autist who spammed quadruple monarchs for over a year
>/dsg/ VS /bbg/ as a whole
DaS3 hasn't had much outside of Vicars and various petty FC squabbles

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>>167621743
Well I mean I play BB so I could go there to talk about that game for the meanwhile I guess.

Also jesus, buying microwaveable burgers for gaming food was a terrible idea, my stomach is ultra gassy, my farts smell incredibly rank and the sheer amount of farts is going to burn a hole through my jeans. I feels like a fucking curse lizard with all this deadly gas going on.

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>>167622132

>>167621925
>There's no actual red invasion covenant
This is the one that pissed me off the most. Beyond just fighting people and getting in their way, part of what I liked in demon/ds1 invasions was the idea that you're actively hunting down other players in order to benefit yourself, either with the invasion rewards or the covenant reward.

DS2 has no reward for invasions (not even getting humanity back when it copied lots of other demons mechanics) and the covenant levels up by honorable 1v1 dueling exclusively when being an honorable dickwraith was already something done with the red sign soapstone (which the brotherhood of blood even sells, so it's not like DS1 where you have to stumble into painted world to get that shit)

It's just lame. If I wanted fair and balanced 1v1 fighting I'd play a fighting game

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>>167621925
>pilgrims of the dark had a potential to be the best pvp zone in the game
>it died so fucking fast you would need to wait 10 minutes to get an invasion sometimes

>>167622169
>Has no negative effects
Well not exactly, some people (I'm one of them) consider looking like beef jerky as a negative and I know there's a ring for that, but that's a ring slot and extra weight.

Also with >>167622195
The same post mentions that hollow infusion is not worth it over refined, so doesn't that mean that the one bonus of hollowing is not worth it and ergo the negative of looking like jerky trumps that?

>>167621141

are pure archer runs viable in DS3? I noticed they put an arrow limit of 99 which is ludicrous.

>>167622494
you have to wear untrue dark ring for maximum fashionsouls while invading anyways, though

>>167622169
you get dealt more damage from Hollowslayer Greatsword

which means not much at SL120 shit but it's a real issue when twinking, it's a noob magnet weapon

>>167622375
>Well I mean I play BB so I could go there to talk about that game for the meanwhile I guess.
That's always an option. Just pretend like nothing is happening until the DLC is out.
How many burgers did you eat? Is pic related what you're feeling like right now?

>>167622521
if your run includes millwood greatbow, you can make a pure archer run easily even on ng+7

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>>167622132
He's got some nice C cups going on.

>>167622494
as he said, hollow build does not get more AR than refined but it can still be good for bleed weapons (because luck boosts bleed)
you find a weapon with some natural bleed and throw a hollow infusion and rouge buff on top of it

i'm not sure how much better than bleed it actually is though. it might be better to just do refined + rouge

>>167621985
Durability was turned into a non-issue to please casuals. DaS1 / DeS / DaS2 could actually see your equipment getting destroyed.

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>>167622476
It was fun as fuck at the height of the game. Invade the areas because they HAVE To fight you to progress, win and get bonfire ascetic use on a bonfire that had corpse that had 4 Cracked eye orbs. Rinse and repeat. One hell of a way to ruin your SM but it was fun.

>>167622626
>best bow
>best axe
>one of the best shields
>absolutely fucking garbage greataxe
millwoodfags why

>>167622349
>CE related things
>hacking into the dlc
that isn't a distinctly /dsg/ thing

>FCs
>quadruple monarchs
didn't really consider the presence of FCs as a whole "events" since they've always been a thing to my knowlage, and the two-by-two rulers poster is still here posting about ebin pccucks, so I didn't consider him a temporary phenomena either

>>167622635
>tfw ring of reversal +2 is permanently unobtainable because aldritch bulled gwyndolin to death before she could give it to the player in NG+

>>167622559
Yeah I know.

I'm just mildly salty because I just spent almost 40K souls on healing the Dark Sigil last night, woke up to read that and realised it was pointless since I'm going to be wearing the Untrue ring all the time anyway.

>>167622685
I mean, Refined + Rouge would do more base damage sure but take longer to bleed.

>>167622521
>99 arrow limit
99 arrows PER TYPE.

>>167622607
>how many burgers?
6

>>167622416
i remember going through ds2 for the first time and thinking what themed invaders i could invade
then i understood that there's no way to control SM at all so some areas stay permanently dead because nobody goes through them in ng+ or even goes through ng+ at all
then i understood that game not only has no full orb but has no fucking invader covenant with invading-related awards
i wanted to punch a person who thought it's a good idea right in his faggy face

>>167622626

I mean a pure DEX archer, none of that greatbow shit.

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>>167622797
>that isn't a distinctly /dsg/ thing
you literally couldn't discuss it anywhere else

>>167622015
>and now apparently there's the "first jailer" poster.
He's nowhere near as bad as a tripfag

>>167622869
>6
Yeah, that'll do it. Stay close to a toilet and maybe have some fiber

>>167621925
Like most of the stupid shit in DS2, it's because of bad choices causing a domino effect.

Since they made dying an actual penalty again like demon souls (unlike 1 and 3 where dying simple removed a benefit, a subtle but important difference), the player is both more encouraged to be in human form and more penalized for dying in it. This means that some naked twink build invading you is a way bigger deal generally, so they had to make invasions less common.

If they just DIDN"T backtrack good ideas DS1 had for no reason (see also bringing back healing grass as lifegems) they wouldn't have to make invasions less common

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>>167622476
>three years later, there are still people who don't know you can invade there
>there are still people in other covenants who complain about not being able to use herbs
>there are still people who complain about hosts running through the boss fog
>there are still people who complain about gank squads
>there are still invaders who complain about sin ruining their lost sinner's sword
>there are still people who think DaS3 introduced the mound makers covenant
>there are people who will never experience the majesty of a six phantom abyss brawl

>>167622838
well yeah the question is how much difference a luck build actually makes in terms of hits-to-cause-bleed and whether it's worth the loss in AR

>>167622790
it's like myazaki telling you that oversized dildos are dumb

>>167622698
>Durability was turned into a non-issue to please casuals
I highly doubt this is the case. They have a whole repair system with the Blacksmith, they have Repair Powder scattered through the game and as drops on some enemies, and yet the variable for durability is just -never- used, your shit never loses a single point of durability. I feel like it's more of some kinda bug like whatever stopped poise from working.

>>167622349
DS1 days were plagued by eceleb shitposting and DaS1 vs DeS like DaS2/DaS3 are talked about nowadays.

>>167622589
>you get dealt more damage from Hollowslayer Greatsword
Last I heard, its effect either didn't apply to players or did so little extra damage due to the same effect nerfs on almost all pvp gear that it didn't matter.

>people still underestimate the Onyx Sword

I love the ignorance lmao

>>167623009

durability goes down, just veeeeeery slowly.

Highest damaging talisman is the Saint's Talisman right?

>>167623190

Yes, but iirc it has the weakest poise of all the talismans.

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>>167623091
It's pretty much a fancy dark-infused claymore. Still good, though.

>>167622635

How? Does he specifically have titty magic going on?

>>167623112
[Doubt]

>>167623216
Ok thank you and that's not too much a problem for me anyways. I'm mostly a PvE player and I'm already used to having to properly time spell casts from playing on my Pyromancer a lot.

>>167623009
>>167623285
putting down my summon sign, fighting through an area, getting summoned and fighting through that area again got my uchigatana to about 50%

it does happen but its veeeeeery gradual

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>>167623091
>2hr1l2 is a true combo

>>167622901
>Pure DEX archer
Enjoy having your physical damage pretty much capped at 260 and gimped against armored enemies. Even the black bow of pharis at 60 dex is outdone by a heavy crossbow which still sucks. Youll run out of ammo long before you run out of enemies later in the game.

>>167623218
Lucifer get out.

>>167623218
>It's pretty much a fancy dark-infused claymore
With a sizable fire buff added to it, and get split damage.
That fucking Sword art Animation doe

>>167623236
He takes his daily estrogen pills.

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>>167622997
not all of them
>99 levels to deal 4 (FOUR) damage points more
epic

>>167623236
Wearing the ring his entire life probably had the side effect of giving him tits.

>>167623285
Durability does indeed go down just not crazy fast and honestly never to a point where you need to worry about it. Durability was only ever a concern in Dark Souls 2 where it felt like things could be at risk at all times.

>>167623218
>longer range
>no stance art
>self-buff weapon art that deals damage and costs literally zero stamina to use

You can stop posting now.

>>167623236
Let me tell you a secret.

Gwyndolin's DaS1 model was taken from another game they were working on but scrapped. It was going to be a female moon goddess.

Also, don't feed lucy's alt.

>>167623342

Gotcha. Have fun with it.

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>>167623432
>he
delet this

Playing DS3 and I currently have 9 estus shards to allot. I also use healing magic. With 114 FP, I can get two uses of Heal and one of Caressing Tears. My ashen flsk will fully restore all of that. So I actually get more healing out of one use of my ashen flask than I do out of my regular estus flask, but of course chugging a regular estus is easier to do in a fight than casting heal because I can move while I'm doing it. What do you guys think is the right balance of regular estus vs. ashen estus for a healer?

>>167623538
the higher you go with miracles, the best your blue flask heal ratio becomes
i generally leave just enough for clutch healing with a cleric, 5-6 normal flasks at best, everything else is converted into blue ones

>>167623480

durability was a concern in demon's souls, not because it went down fast in most cases but because your equipment only got repaired at a blacksmith. plus, IIRC, the quality of your weapon would go down even before it "broke"

>>167623446
wait, not even
yhorm's machete has warcry which increases AR by 20%
earth seeker has an absolutely garbage WA that never hits anybody

>>167623497
Source? As far as I know, he wasn't originally supposed to look like a girl, it was an accident
>don't feed
>he said after feeding

>>167623696
Ah yes that's right! Yeah you have a very valid point, it definitely was a thing in Demon Souls. I personally don't mind having to monitor durability, it's never truly bothered me but with how, I guess I want to say "lacking" it is in Souls 3, makes me think "Why even have it in the game".

>>167623538
If you're a healer, you might want to use Bountiful / Soothing Sunlight.
Also you could wear Sun Princess Ring and use a Blessed infused shield.
Maybe use Meat Cleaver, or have Blessed Weapon attuned.

>>167622698
durability never added anything to gameplay of souls games and thankfully was almost outright removed in ds3
nioh did right by removing this shit mechanic as well
if you want durability, play in dungeon crawlers or some other games that are actually focused on resource management, not farming simulator 2011

>>167623535
Gwyndolin is a neet who dresses as a girl in his room. he's /ourguy/

>>167622970
>in 3 dying removed a benefit
Wrong, in 3 dying decreased your max health, and mechanics wise ember form is your default health, because fall damage percentage gets calculated from your embered health form example.

The devs only gave you the health increase after you got through the tutorial because imagine a newbie getting their shit pushed in by index gundyr and then having to try it with 33% less health.

>>167623920
>Bountiful / Soothing Sunlight
>Sun Princess Ring
I don't know what these are yet. Might be further into the game than I've gotten. It is definitely about time to get a blessed weapon, as I just gained entrance to the Catacombs. Why were you suggesting this though? My faith still isn't very high yet at this point, although I hope to start raising it more soon.

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>>167623993
gywndolin is a brooding princess

>>167624056
Healing miracles, and a ring that heals a very tiny bit of your HP over time.
>>Bountiful / Soothing Sunlight
>I don't know what these are yet.
If this is your first Souls game, I won't give you any more information so I don't spoil. Have fun.

>>167623963
Durability added the single greatest moment of triumph for /dsg/ when our very own Gensmash scraped DSP's gear in Demon's Souls and then caused him to kill an NPC.

>>167623993
>implying I bothered getting dressed today

>>167624056
Ignore the namefag.

Personally, when playing Faith I like 1 estus for every 2 ashtus.

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>>167624056
Go and stay go until you finish the game at least once. Don't ruin it for yourself by letting a mongolian cave painting forum lead you through the game

>>167624251
Lucifer get out

>>167624256
>nobody ever successfully soulsucked dsp
I still feel the shame to this day.

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>>167624256
that was a work of durability-destroying weapon which is the single good thing this system had going on for it but unfortunately From lost their balls after des and it never appeared again till acid surge in ds3 was actually made useful for 2 days

>>167624251
I've beaten DS1 and Bloodborne. This is my first character using miracles though so if those were in DS1 I just didn't use them.
>>167624267
Yeah 1:2 estus to ashtus seems solid.

Thanks niggas.

Hey guys /bbg/ here
Ive only played through DS2 once before without any guides or anything. No clue how to build a character in DS2. Ended up playing a tower shield lance character and had fun, but after really getting into the combat mechanics of bloodborne, I want to revisit DS2 and play a hoonter. No shield ever, fast paced movement.
Any guides for that or general tips?
Will there be a wide selection of weapons with unique movesets to pick from if I commit to a build or will I be stuck with some cookie cutter best weapon and have no variety?

>>167624426
>This is my first character using miracles though
Boy, you sure picked a bad time to start.

I hope you like your only good offensive miracle being locked behind the final boss.

>>167624367
I'm not leaning on 4skin or guides too much. Every once in a while it's nice to get an opinion on something though. I get your sentiment though. I have a friend playing DS1 for the first time and he's using a guide for fucking everything and I think it's a little sad.

>>167624482
>hoonter in ds2
Literally impossible, game is too slow, dodging depends on three separate stats, nothing like guns, heavy emphasis on defense. Very possible in ds3, though.

>>167624535
Yeah when I replay DS1 I have every intention of being more of a spellcaster than I was my first time but for now even if they're nerfed it's still nice to mix shit up from how I was playing last time. Is the lightning miracle not good though? I don't have the faith to cast that yet but I recently picked it up.

>>167624482
>ds2
>fast paced movement
Hahahahahaha
What's your favourite bb weapon?

>>167624396
durability damage in das2 was useful in some specific cases

specifically the best version of the ring of fap (aka the Third Dragon Ring) only had 20 durability. you could break it with acid surge and then laugh as your oppenent suddenly started fatrolling

>>167624678
It 5 shots hollows.

>>167624752
it was nowhere near how crazy good the acid surge became for 2 days in ds3
that shit melted everything in half a second of staying inside the cloud

>>167624482
As someone who played Bloodborne first, and as someone who loves Bloodborne as much as pussy, you're not going to get that from DS2. I think DS3 is the game you're looking for. It's faster paced than its predecessors. And just all around a much better game.

>>167624482
Well,powerstancing certain weapons can be really fun.

>>167624678
Oh! I should probably mention. It's a questline thing specific to faith builds.

Irina and dark miracles do NOT mix. She's too pure for evil.

Remember that. It's very, very important.

>>167624552
Alright man. Good luck with your faith dude. All the good miracles are pretty deep in the game so don't invest too heavily in faith right away. Keep it balanced between faith and physical damage.

>>167624779
Well that's depressing.
>>167624884
For clarification, I only meant DS3 is a much better game than DS2. DS1 is fucking god tier. Had to clear that up, excuse me.

Does anyone have that screenshot of The Gutter lit so that you can see the whole layout? I want to show a friend who doesn't believe how bad it looks

I actually like The Gutter from a gameplay sense but man when lit it's hte ugliest thing in any game

>>167624981
people dickriding ds1 in 2017 are cute

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Someone enlighten me how it's possible to turtle with a two-handed ultra?

I can't even remember if I won the fight, they waited until I was offline to send the request.

>>167622921
Someone post the .webm this is based on.

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>>167625075
FUGS.

He's probably talking about poking from outside his range, though.

>>167625075
REACTIVE PVP
as in you never actually do anything aggressive, you just wait for him to try something and see if you can punish him for it

this playstyle is kind of the only way ultras can work, although plenty of people do it with smallfast weapons too

>>167625075
While not turtling, kiting with ultras can be just as annoying. I blame from for not giving them better hyperarmor to encourage aggression

will people make fun of me for using greatsword + shield with a hold out crossbow in pvp?

Can someone give me a rundown on what to do to have a super strong character very early?

I want to take Warrior, should I take a fire gem or what?

>>167625049
I just played it for the first time a couple of months ago so it is not a nostalgia thing in my case, and it's one of my all time favorites. I'll bite, though, do you have serious criticisms of DS1, or are you just being an asshole for the (You)'s?

>>167625278
Pick deprived for maximum value for your points, and very few points wasted
Healing wares is probably the best for a gift since you want to spend your early souls for levels, not healing items.

>>167624482
Thirding DaS3, where they had such a boner for BB that shields are almost worthless.

>>167625278
what do mean, strong for bullying nerds in pvp or strong for pve

>>167625278
Find Astora Straight Sword, infuse with Raw. Invest all points into Vigor and Endurance. Slap shit with your Raw ASS to win. Raising Faith for weapon buffs is optional if you want even more damage.

>>167625274
Only if you lose

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Anyone feel like a PC FC, high wall, pass dsg as always

>>167625278
>>167625374
Oops, wrong thread

>>167625374
>fire gem
He's clearly talking about Dark Souls 3, also I hope you're trolling about the deprived bit because that was the exact opposite of true. You want the highest SL class for the fewest souls wasted, not the lowest SL class that has to spend more souls and raise SM higher just to hit the same point.

>>167625374
I mean DS3

>>167625392
Strong for both. I want to smash PvE in its arse then do some PvP later on

>>167625374
Is there any downside to taking deprived? Isnt it just free stats at sl1?

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>>167625298
it's a deeply flawed game that was massively improved upon both by bb and ds3
the only value it hold now is world design, but that is held down by the fact it only applies to the first half of the game, and also atmosphere but that's subjective
in terms of combat system, individual level design, build and option variety, bosses, enemies, difficulty curve it feels massively dated right now

what happens if you don't meet the faith requirements for a talisman and go to use it in DaS?
I was thinking about throwing out Gravelord Sword Dances with a Thorolund Talisman instead of Pyromancies with a twink but I wouldn't meet the 10 faith needed for the talisman.

>>167625612
Complain all you like, we all still loved that shit when it was new.

>>167624714
I dont have a favorite but my most used were beast claws, Holy Moonlight, burial blade, and beast cutter.

>>167625572
well the twinkiest builds for pvp involve some stuff that you probably don't want to do for pvp like staying a really low level while skipping forward to much later-game bosses in order to get a specific ring

>>167625704
If you don't meet the FTH requirements to use the talisman, you won't be able to cast miracles.

Class with most free points in DS3? As far as I can figure it's Deprived?

>>167625789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

>>167625789
Thanks, I'll stick to pyromancies then I guess.

>>167625704
You get massively reduced damage. Have you tried Velka's Talisman?

>>167625789
>lucy being wrong again

>>167625726
this is what called "nostalgiafaggotry"
i still love the game, doesn't mean i don't see how many glaring flaws it has and how much actual later miyazaki-directed games improved its formula

>>167625612
>build and option variety
>improved upon by ds3
lol

>>167622921
not even the CE forums?

>>167623091
parting flame blackflame was the more beneficial part of the dlc for pyros t b h

>>167625213
You know what confuses me about Captcha, so we're apparently helping systems recognise words and now objects in Maps images, but what's the point when the system already knows it? I mean, how else does it register when we get it wrong?

>>167625572
>free stats
You fucks never bother trying simple addition+subtraction. No, they are all the same
>>167625789
You can cast, but very slowly

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>>167625814
>starts at sl1
>free points
Nooope. It's also the least efficient at everything except pure Luck builds, and playing a pure Luck build is exactly like being a quality build that can only use a straight sword.

Also, technically speaking, only Dark Souls 1 had free stats due to how Resistance was (not) calculated for total SL.

>>167625814
What do you mean by free points? You mean fewest allocated points? Yeah, deprived, it starts at the lowest level. All classes of equal SL have the same number of stat points (unlike in 1 where your starting resistance didn't contribute to starting SL).

>>167618942
Why can Farron Flashsword be parried

It can't riposte, backstab, OR plunge attack and you need at least 3 rings to make it even slightly usable

Why bother using it at all when you can just get a Longsword+Magic Weapon?

>>167625927
it compares it to other users' responses

sometimes if you're one of the first users to do a specific captcha you can get it completely wrong and the system will still accept it because it has nothing to compare you to

>>167625612
BB is a sidestep, and I'd hesitate to call DaS3 an improvement when it comes to the overall experience of the game. DaS3 is an incredibly linear, easy game to play through, on the whole the original DaS gave a much more satisfying experience. The only thing 3 really has going for it over DaS is consistency.

I want to do a faith build in 3. I just beat the rotten tree. How do i go about that?

>>167625869
of course they are
ds3 gives access to boss weapons in first hour of the game and overall gives way more options for every build at every point of it

>>167626172
Level up Faith, attune miracles.

>>167626146
Mother of fuck, so that's why I get all these "store fronts" which aren't actually store fronts.

r8 me m8s
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/527757

>>167626261
seriously just use the legacy captcha it is so much faster to do than the fucking "click all the pictures of signs and then wait 3 seconds while we load even more pictures to click on, repeat x5" bullshit

>>167626215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

>>167626150
ds1 is hilariously piss easy and certainly easier than ds3 when it comes to bosses and enemies, in grand order of things linearity of its first half doesn't account to much and just allows to skip bits of boring, shit level design
the only area where ds1 is harder than 3 is its retarded platforming

>>167625425
>Only if you lose
why?

>>167626340
I legitimately can't solve legacy captchas I have dyslexia

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>>167626261
>Get captcha to draw around a street sign
>Its a store front

>>167626005
>It's also the least efficient at everything except pure Luck builds
what?

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/143536
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/143538

>>167626172
You're in the right area. Give the gravetender's ashes to the Shrine Handmaiden, buy the less expensive key, then go to the sewer and open the locked door.

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So, in my tireless quest to prove myself a dutiful and faithful cleric worthy of divine blessing and miracles, having found no one in need of assistance in their toils, I have instead spent the last half hour or so crushing the skulls of dead babies with a divine mace, to strip them of their humanity. With said humanity, I then entering into a covenant with a literal demon to safeguard my safe passage into what is by all means hell.

I can't help but feel that something has gone wrong with my pilgrimage to the land of Lords.

>>167619082
>no set
>no dual wield swords with unique l2 stance

haha

>>167625789
Why do namefags name, and why do tripfags trip?

>>167626442
I'd say DaS2/SoTFS has the easiest bosses though. I went in thinking the bosses would be hard, upgraded a bandit axe to around +7, ended up destroying most of the bosses. The only ones that gave me trouble were the smelter demons and DLC bosses.

>>167626664
for attention, it's only human.

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>Constantly invading ganksquads
Being an Aldrich Faithful is suffering.

>>167626559
The first thing that went wrong was that positive attitude, thinking a pilgrimage to the Land of Lords could end in any way except badly

>>167626485
>SL26
>SL26
When the goal is to keep your level as low as possible, then sure. But that's not what I meant by builds and you know it.

>>167626664
Literally just attention.

>>167626735
>>Constantly invading ganksquads
Invading in DS3, period, is suffering.

>>167626814
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

>>167626714
>I'd say DaS2/SoTFS has the easiest bosses though
this is correct, ds2 enemies in their entirety are simply badly designed and have primitive as fuck movesets, ds1 is certainly miles ahead of that level
fuck, Artorias or Manus looks like a next-gen boss if you fight him after spending some time in DS2

>>167625278
just get the soul item

raw infuse the astora straightsword if you want to be as powerful as possible in earlygame

>>167626727
KEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH...

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>>167626606
Why does Miyhackzaki hate the church

>playing through DS1 all the way for the first time after many playthroughs where I would just stop after a short while

Damn this game is long. I just finished talking to Frampt and now he's telling me "yeah dude good shit getting this far bro, now kill all of these other fags for me k? ;)"

>>167626835
just don't reply to him is it that hard?

>>167626735
what?
i got 30 dregs in the aldritch faithful and I ran into way fewer ganks than just from using red orbs.

plus you often get a second aldritch buddy alongside you

>>167626559
>demon
Half-Demon. with the mind still unaffected. Quelaag and the other witches except Quelena either fell under demonic influence or went batshit insane.

Well what have we here ?
Do you wish to die so soon ?

>>167626862
Okay, just because you hate DS2 does not make it the "easiest"

>>167626960
She literally eats human souls.

>>167626884
Frampt is an incompetent, bumbling penis snake. Go with the winners, go with Kaathe.

>>167626340
I prefer the one-handedness of clicking on pics.

>>167626442
Bosses that are a legitimate threat in DaS...
>Gargoyles
>Capra
>Beavis and Butthead
>Artorias

Bosses that are a legitimate threat in DaS3...
>...

Also damage values overall seem relatively higher in DaS, and because of the clunkier movement you're not able to just dodge forever.

>>167627015
so do you.

>>167627073
Those bosses are a legit thread without preparation only

>>167625213
Using the Lothric Ultra Sword, never use the guard option. I do like the R2 pokes tho, useful for people who keep running off.

>>167625228
>>167625270
I'm pretty aggressive and tend to get the first hit in, unless they're parry fishing or got a weapon that can stunlock me to death.

Think I was in the arena though, and I've had about six other invites to dumb groups in the past month, so whatever.

>>167627073
but you're already typing a post anyways
unless you are using your mouse to operate an on-screen keyboard or something...
just literally press tab and type the captcha

>>167626735
That's why you make a Str build and use massive weapons with AoE weapon arts.

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What does an "Age of Dark" actually intale?

Does it include a basic heat-death of the universe with no life?

Or is it a banishing of magic and gods and such things to make way for humanity to rule the world?

>>167627073
>Bosses that are a legitimate threat in DaS3...
Crystal Sages
Blackflame Friede

>>167627073
>equip shield with decent stability
>every DaS1 boss is totally trivialized
Wow, so good, I wish more games were as hard as dark souls!

>>167627213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

>>167627176
I dunno, don't ask me to explain my weird logic. All I know is that I get annoyed having to type Captcha.

>>167627015
She's a firekeeper, they all eat humanity to keep their bonfires strong. Though in her case she needs to humanity to heal herself due to the poisonous pus she drank to cure blighttown from its blight.

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>>167627302
Please note that spam is a bannable offense.

>>167627392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

>>167627293
You're missing the point, the point isn't that the game is hard, it's just more of a challenge than DaS3.

>>167627194
Are you talking about "Age of Dark" like what Kaathe wants? (Which is really Age of The Abyss), or the true "Age of Dark" like the firekeeper ending in DaS3?

>>167627213
tyrone is right anon
if you're posting shit that your identify is important for like art or something then go ahead but there's no point in attaching a name to random advice posts like this

>>167627452

Didn't realize there was a difference

>>167626960

>quelaag
>insane

she was trying to stop you from killing her sister, idiot. by the time you kill the bed of chaos you basically slaughter her entire family.

>>167627073
>gargoyles
???

>>167627442
But it isn't, outside of the DLC DaS1 has a ridiculously easy roster of bosses. They have to rely on 2v1 gimmicks like O&S or cheap ambush shit like Capra.

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>demon's souls
>plot is a giant demon tree that shits out demons to eat everyone's souls
>dark souls 1
>plot is that death is inevitable
>but there's also a giant demon tree that shits out demons that eat souls so players know it's a lawyer-friendly demon's souls
>dark souls 3
>the "flame" is finally fading, and nothing you can do will make it good again
>trying to preserve it fails, the only way to keep going is as a rotted corpse on life support
>the demon tree and its demons are dead and dying, to let players know demon's souls is dead too
>AoA talks about how fire is inspiration, in a game about fire fading
>dlc npcs frequently mention that it's better to let good things die, and it should never have gone on this long
>the true villains of the base game and dlc are bad because they want it to continue instead of end

>>167627194
If Dark Firelink is anything to go by, the latter. The gods will become powerless, and mankind will become rulers of a lightless world, complete with Abyss and Deep spawn.

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>>167627647
These guys.

>>167627073
nigga do you type with your mouse? you're gonna be using the keyboard anyway so whats the real problem? do you only have one hand? if so how the hell do you play dark souls

>>167627806
Do you know how to take a trip off?

>>167627194
>What does an "Age of Dark" actually entail?

Dark is the opposite of Fire in all aspects. Take everything you know about the Age of Fire and reverse it. That's the Age of Dark.

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>>167626738
Nonsense, what are the clerics of Carim known for if not cheerful demeanor and a positive outlook on life.

>>167627953
Dodgy aristocrats and "knife in the back" filed under death by natural causes?

>>167627806
yeah but they're not hard, not even underleveled and unprepared, it's not a true 2v2 the second one is just area denial of half the rooftop and is really easy to avoid.

>>167627194
>>167627518
Yeah, the Dark Lord endings in DaS1 and 2 the sun goes out and the world is cast in a twilight/nighttime setting while the Abyss corrodes shit, and turns everything left into crazy lovecraftian abominations.

In DaS3 the firekeeper seems to imply that when the first flame is completely snuffed out (by a firekeeper apparently). Everything goes pitch black, and supposedly everyone is their own flame or something, instead of having to rely on a flame that existence is tied to.

Beat the game near the initial release, then put it down for a while. What's the meta looking like?

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>>167627761

the final villian is the first flame itself, forcibly linking itself, using the unwilling legless Ludleth, when all the lords of the land have finally as a collective chosen to let it fade into nothing.

this represents the 3 game contract.

soul of sinder is bamco

ludleth is FROM trying to stockholme the situation

>>167627953
Discounting Oswald, I really can't think of any. But if you want to become a jolly fellow uncontrollably laughing in a bell tower, selling indictments to low-level players angry about invaders, I'd imagine that being a respectable profession

>>167628201
Slap on Way of Blue covenant whenever your bonfire goes out. Also touch any signs in your immediate vicinity.

Abyss Watchers. Is there some kind of trick to that final flame sword form? Cause... Damn.

Alternatively, is there somewhere to farm souls so I can level up a bit? I've made it to Cathedral of the Deep but doubled back to finish that giant pain in the ass swamp area and then found these dicks. Why are they even fighting each other?

>>167627352
why couldn't we just give her a fucking purple moss

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>>167628078
All pure coincidence and baseless speculation. Now excuse me while I strip trinkets of long-dead heroes off the bodies of disgusting maggots to prove my piety to the gods.

>>167628272
See, this guy gets it.

>>167628325
Gee you colossal faggot, whatever happened to all that big talk about how you're gonna make the place better or some shit?

Or have you given up the ruse about not being a lucyalt and are just too lazy to put the trip back on?

>>167628414
he still has 0poise
just dodge the attacks and punch him, but be careful not to dodge into the flame trails that some of them leave behind

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>>167628483
It was a joke, anon. Calm down.

>>167628507
Yeah did seem weird that I could interrupt his attacks. Still big range and he spends a lot of time spinning in the air

>>167628414
>Why are they even fighting each other?
Undead Legion organized to hunt the abyss in all its forms. They are slowly falling to abyss corruption one by one, which means now they're hunting themselves.

>>167628459
It is only human to commit a sin...
[Uncomfortably long period of suspicious, lunatic laughter]

>>167628671
Why do the Darkwraiths and Gru hate eachother so much?

>>167628671
Then they channel it all into one dude?

>>167628535
Was the bit about doing good things a joke, or the part where you did the opposite of that the joke? Because either way, you're still the faggot, have no reason to use a trip, and would improve the place by not trying to stand out. You'd definitely improve the place if you weren't posting a constant stream of bad information, but I guess that'd be too much to ask for.

>>167627675
DaS3 bosses are gimmicky and yet still fail though, 3's bosses are even -easier- than DaS, did we play the same game?

>>167628414

You can cheese him by making him do a flip combo which leads to an easy backstab. Just stay at a distance.

>>167628769
Don't reply to my posts, asswipe.

>>167628772
They are bound together by a covenant made in wolf's blood, which enables them to use superhuman anime fighting techniques against the darkness. They are collectively a Lord of Cinder, but no one watcher among them has all the power. Until they do the whole fusion thing, that is.

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>>167628783
Calm down. No reason to be so toxic.
Try this.

>>167628930
No reason to tripfag either.

>>167628843
Apparently not, nobody but you played this nostalgic fever dream you seem to be imagining.

>>167628930
>no need to be toxic
>says the tripfag
>who has spent half the thread replying to and encouraging toxicity

Please snort mercury.

>>167629035
>>who has spent half the thread replying to and encouraging toxicity
Please refer to these posts.

I really like the standard Club's moveset. Is there anything with the same or a similar moveset that does more dmg? I like the club but getting it a nice AR on it is tough in early or mid game

>>167629065

Reinforced Club if we're talking 3, it's literally a straight upgrade.

I just had some hollow enemy in the Cathedral area hit me with some status that wouldn't let me use my flask. What the fuck was that?

Which game has the best levelup waifu?
DeS, DaS2, BB, or DaS3?

I personally can't decide between EH and Firekeeper

>>167628769
>>167628917
Cool, you guys have an awful trip too? Bloodborne General has a shitstain that refuses to die as well.

Didn't realize I was fighting a lord.

>>167628863
I was thinking about that or getting rid of my unnecessary crest shield that I never use and serves only to literally slow me down and get one of them small parrying shields. Not sure if they're easier to parry with though.

>>167629216
A Lloyd's Talisman. It prevents players from drinking their Estus. You can buy some and use it for yourself on other players.

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>>167629062
>I wasn't doing anything wrong, honest
>it's all these other guys
>it's not like I knew exactly what would happen when I acted like a shithead attention whore, posted lies, intentionally reminded people of lucifer and all the other posters they hate while acting exactly like them even while claiming not to, and oh my gawd I'm just so fucking clever, huh

I'll tell you what. You stop posting, and I'll ignore you. I believe this would be a fair trade.

>>167629342
Thanks, but what does your name have to do with your answer?

>>167629342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

>>167629014
Mate I'm not even really pushing for DaS that much, I'm just saying that it's more challenging than roll-out-of-any-trouble DaS3.

For example, I'm running through DaS3 right now, not even bothering with a shield because it's extra weight and almost useless. I'm still not dying to regular enemies, and I die maybe once on bosses and I just don't feel challenged, the only fun I find is in the PvP.

Compared to my no shields run of DaS, which was a death-filled nightmare since I couldn't just roll my way through everything. As clunky as the combat is, as unbalanced and flawed as the game is, I still just prefer the challenge, the overall experience of the original DaS, it's refreshing without resorting to groups and groups of enemies like DaS2, and it doesn't feel like some fast-paced hack 'n slash like DaS3.

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>>167628930

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>>167629429
if she was anonymous, how could she get those sweet sweet upvotes to increase her karma score

>>167629480
Nigga, just put on flip ring

>>167629160
sweet, I can get that from greirat right?

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>>167628201
like pic related

Onyxpyro is kinda cheesy due to damage potential and spamability but not really as OP as people make it out to be. The parting catalyst with black flame is nessecary to really bring it out, but solo greatswords are now arguably better than solo straightswords (solo as in "with an offhanded caestus and nothing more"), but with a midshield straightswords are better. Midshield + SS is also better than havelstock. Valorheart is kinda fun.

Carthus curved sword got a damage nerf, but it's still top tier even though it's arguably less faggy than BKS. The follower saber meme died due to a damage nerf, though it's still an excellent weapon. People are starting to like the pontiff knight CS.

Offhanded crossbows are really good if you've got a quick 1hr1, but most of the benefit only applies when you're using them against weapons that were already shit anyway.

The arena is unembered, so being able to regenerate health makes more of a difference. If you've got 10 faith and an attunement slot, you can throw on the priestess ring, cast replenishment, then switch to sun princess for a bunch of free health you wouldn't be able to get by leveling vigor any further if you've already got around 1400 unembered hp. Since regen doesn't scale, you can cast it from any chime, such as the crystal chime, which can also be used to cast magic shield and weighs less than actual sorcery staves.

>>167629065
go try out the heysel pick

>>167629216
you got hit with a lloyds talasmin you dirty newfag

>>167627857
See >>167627336

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>>167629480
>Compared to my no shields run of DaS, which was a death-filled nightmare

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>>167629557

>Champ is pushing my shit in
>cave and summon a sunbro to help me
>fucking parries and ripostes the Champ

SINCE WHEN CAN YOU DO THAT

>>167629617

You pick it from the tree around where the Giant shoots in Cathedral. Hint, 2HR1>R2 combos in pvp along with R1>War Cry R2 and Jump attack.

>>167629615
What, the ring that got heavily nerfed and is not available for almost the entire first half of the game?

>>167629641
Wow yeah, good argument.

>>167629684
Always.

>>167629762
Its great to know that all the times I've suffered getting roundhoused in the face by the Champ I could've just parried his gay ass.