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"Best Friends" Edition

Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database/Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Useful Links:
http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

Discord:
None, because we have standard.
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Ramped: >>167538617
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12222336
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Roach has had a greater negative effect on the meta than Daria has
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>>167566970
Roach did nothing wrong.
You know what else Roach did not do? It didn't kill all mid-range decks, fuck off Dariafag.
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>got BM'd after the other guy got lethal on me
>next game was about to the same thing to the other guy
>he conceded too fast before I get to emote him
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>>167567014
It arguably did. Midrange can't make value trades when it's supposed to be racing to kill roach before it OTKs them.
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>>167566970
>deck that requires you to play wards has a greater negative effect than deck that killed an entire archetype
t. Isabelle
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>when the fucker plays blazing breath/shitful swing/sylvian justice turn 2
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>have to win 4 times as blood
>all i can play is an unga budget dick
>all these havens in unraked playing literally all aoe clears, healings and wards
>everything else is just dariafags
why
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>>167566813
>we have standard
just one?
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Are Daria decks fun to play?
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Leonidas is very fun
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This card would fix this game in every way imaginable. It punishes all the mindless and overpowered combos, without being an auto win card. They play their stupid Gobu/Prism Priest/Merlin/Draw card to search for their brain dead Roach/Seraph/D.Shift/Daria You hit them with this. No more overpowered tutors for already insanely consistent combos. It would also solve the spellboost and roach problem once and for all. They've been overpowered since the game's inception and each expansion we have to fucking hope they don't release more broken support for them.

Probably make it banish instead of discard so Elf and Witch can't PtP with it.
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>>167567282
Kill yourself.
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>>167567275
Yeah, discord is for faggots, everything else is fair game.
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Why do D-Shift players take 10 million years to do their turns?
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>>167566970
would not mind roach nerf desu, forest could use some more variety. it would probably just make forest terrible though even with compensation
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>>167567301
You're not wrong but people(mostly from discord and reddit) will snap at you playing YGO.
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>>167567301
Or they could just make trap cards or instants to counter combo decks like every other card game in existence
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>playing Storm haven
>people assume I'm playing some sort of cancer deck and concede turn 1
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>>167567331
It's called thinking. Dshift is arguably the most skill demanding deck in the game since always.
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>>167567014
You're technically right, it's Feena and Goblin Mage that have pushed roach over the top since it gave the deck a ridiculous amount of consistency and a 0 mana way to tutor roach for extra damage.

The card without a doubt needs to be changed though or else it limits the design of every future neutral and forest card. There's a reason why most people are bringing OTK roach to tournaments.
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>>167567331
Human trash that enjoy wasting everyone else's time. It's the same reason they slow roll the shit out of you when they know they already won. They'll play every draw card and 0 mana cost card, even though they already have enough 0 cost followers and D.Shifts to kill you.
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>>167567378
traps are cancer
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>>167567378
>every other card game in existence
Among the more famous card games, only YGO and MtG has instant/traps/quick effects.
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>>167567452

Trap cards are wonderful and chain beat was the best deck ever.
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>>167567331
Because DShift players, like most Rune players, are subhuman degenerates.
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>>167567496

Even HS has something set up where you can counterplay your opponent.
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>>167567301
isn't this card banned in yugioh
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>>167567397
>Rune
>Skill demanding deck
1+1 is skill?
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>>167567452
>MOOOOOOOM HE COUNTERED MY COMBO
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>>167567452
Solemn judgment is the best thing to ever happen to ygo.
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>Got memed on by double crystal amulet face spell Dragon
Well then
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>>167567452
Do traps still exist in YGO? What good are they in a game that ends in turn 1?
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>>167567573

It is, but that's because it enabled combos.

In shadowverse, it would stop them.
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>>167567573
Wording is very specific in YGO. It discards to the graveyard, otherwise it would be OP as fuck, because YGO is tutor central, and there's plenty of ways to check your opponent's hand. It still saw play though, because a lot of decks require shit to be the graveyard.
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>>167567496
You're forgetting hearthstone, the second most popular card game after Magic. when your game has less options for counter play than hearthstone you know there's something wrong
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>animated cards that cannot be used by their classes because they are not feasible enough

Now that I checked, I also have 3 animated Thief.
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>>167567564
>>167567704
Oh right, all I remember is IRL card games, forgot HS exists, never played it though.
Also Fow has instants too since it's a watered down MtG, kinda dead though.

>>167567668
Helps T1 set up.

Dimension Barrier and Solemn Strike are pretty good, also Vanity's Emptiness/
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>>167567708
https://my.mixtape.moe/bwndjo.mp3
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>Play roach
>Don't draw a single 1PP bounce card
>Opponent shits out 6 bazillion wards

>Play vs roach
>All my wards have mysteriously gone missing
>They always have 3 roaches/1 PP bounces to kick my ass

Nice
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>>167567704
>You're forgetting hearthstone, the second most popular card game after Magic.
YGO is more popular worldwide.
Magic is too expensive and serious to be played by kids, also not cartoonish enough.
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>>167567741
>watered down MTG
You could literally describe every CCG as that. Only YGO strayed away from that formula and saw any success.
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Why aren't you playing Lunacraft, anon?
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Rate Banner

Also advice would be great

Koga Kunoichi is waifu
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>>167567891
because its boring as shit
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>>167567831
You're forgetting VG.
There are some other Bushi CG that's not a watered doen MtG like WS, Buddy, Luck and Logic, but they're not as famous as VG. They're also fairly successful.
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>Ungashitter hits face
>Turn 3 5/6 elf

at what rank do people stop doing this?
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>>167567891
Cause I don't want to craft Neps.
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>>167567897
>Also advice would be great
stop playing banner
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I had a 5 win streak With my randomly made Dragon deck and I lost to a daria, I didnt get a good draw and I Lost
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>>167568035
noh
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>>167567984
If he trades he's going to lose. If AE comes out he's going to lose.
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>>167567952

>have to think ahead in shadow building/consumption to make sure you don't get fucked later on
>a lot of space for creativity without any broken shits
>making it a challenge to build a deck that revolves around a legendary while trying to survive at the same time
>boring

You must be a boring person then.

>>167568021

She's quite fun to build around with if you have her.
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>>167567831

YGO did have a popular anime, which honestly is probably the leading if not the only reason why it succeeded.

Konami are the guys I can comfortably call a bunch of retards when I see how they design the meta, their general philosophies, how they treat their players in NA, and what they let slip through the cracks.

When other people fuck up card games, if they didn't screw up on Konami's level, I just assume they're madmen who just don't care.
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>>167568106
>>167567984
because he can topdeck DoD
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>>167567891
I already play both Aggro and Nep decks. Nep has actually been more consistent than Seraph for me when that probably shouldn't be the case.
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>>167567897
What are you trying to pull off some kind of control?
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>win streak all the way up to 2 wins from masters
>go on losing streak
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>>167568408
Yeah kinda yeah.
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That's eight (8) fucking Mythril Golems I've gone through since starting this game, one of them animated. And another 3 fucking Erasmus.

Standard packs hate me.
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>>167568172

>madmen who just don't care

Man, I remembered how I scratched my head when I was browsing through the leak and came across pic-related.

What's WoTC's excuse? They were too late to stop the print and had to ship it out.
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Lost again to a roach Who got stupid Lucky And got natures guidance on a roach and just killed me while I had 2 dragons one exceeding 10 Atk she was at 2
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>>167567331
I'm gonna start BMing any D-shitters that take forever on turn 1 to fucking insight.
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>>167568172
>madmen who just don't care.
Sound like Bushi to me, VG's anime is superior because it's 100% same with the actual card game though.
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>>167566813
New Shadowlog data available! (January 30 to February 5)
Daria lost 1% winratio (at 52% now), but gained 6k games (Jesus Christ, to put into perspective, cSword had 4.7k total games). Dshift lost 0,7% but remains at 47%, tier 1 my fucking dick.

Roach remains above 55% winratio, and gained around 6k games as well. It performed better than every other deck yet again.

Ramp Dragon gained 2k games, but lost a bit on it's winratio, still at 47%. Don't let your Saha memes be dreams.

Control Sword gained 1.5% with about the same play rate, Erika's winratio when warding up is at 51.8% now. Reminder that none of you faggots will ever touch Amelia, nor make the deck winrate go below 50%. Mid-range stays at 51% as well, if that makes sense for you, because it sure as hell doesn't add up for me. Aggro gained 3% and went from the worst Sword deck to being the best one compared to last week's report.

Aggro Bat reader usage went up by 1.5k, but its winratio remains at 48.9%, send help. On that note, control Blood peformed better and gained around 1% winratio, while also being used more often, it is at 45.4% now.

Seraph remains at 46%, and about the same uses, literally worse than Dragon. On the other hand, Sun Satan is at 49.6%, 3% increase from last week.

Aggro Shadow lost 1.3% winrate, but remains above 50%. Nep lost 2%, it is at 45.9 now%.
Cerberus continues to be Shadow's best girl, Nep might have the thighs but that's all she has got going for her.
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So I have 3 Alberts, but lacking Aurelias and Frontguards to make control sword I also have 3 Elenas prayer and buttloads of healing cards., but no Themis and Seraph

I have only enough vials to craft at best 2 leggos and 2 golds, which is more fun to play and better to climb the current meta?
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>>167568626
Dshift has always been a 40%er deck
People that complain about it are retards
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Fun is subjective, anon.
Sword.
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dat feel when you topdeck albert
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>>167568731
meant for >>167568668
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>>167568626

>dissing on Nep with muh datas from shitters

Here we go again.

Some might like Curve Shadow, but I'd rather stick to a deck with better lategame when you cannot beat certain decks in early phase.
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>>167568713
Not retards but control cucks.
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>>167567675

>what is discard dragon
>what is ptp forest

And fyi,despite all the shitter who say discard dragon is a meme the deck literally is just one step away from being broken. All it needs is bullshit effect that triggers off discard.

See : YGO dark world at its prime.
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>>167568626
that's master rank i assume?

im not masters and bats work wonders
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>>167567654

I miss the old days of playing gravekeeper with royal decree in synchro era. Literally no fun allowed.
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>>167568626
>marry one
>kill one
>kiss one
>fuck one
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>>167568889

It could just be designed to banish cards, also.

>play card destruction on discard dragon
>they lose their entire deck

I doubt they're going to give dragon a broken effect off discard trigger. Maybe they'll have a really good card when played normally but has a mediocre if not shitty discarded effect. Altered Fate is too cheap for them to reasonably do something like what you're thinking of.
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>>167567654

I miss the old days of running royal decree in gravekeeper and dimensional banish deck. Literally no fun allowed in a meta where everyone and their mom run synchro bullshit.

>>167568984

Altered fate doesn't discard your opponent's hands. Card destruction ends up benefiting user more than opponent unless they are also playing something like dark world.
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>>167568897
Yeah. I'll throw in a couple aggro winratios for you.
>B rank
Aggro Bat - 54.3%
Aggro Shadow - 58.9%
Aggro Sword - 59.5%
>A rank
Aggro Bat - 51.7%
Aggro Shadow - 55.7%
Aggro Sword - 53.1%
>AA rank
Aggro Bat - 49.9%
Aggro Shadow - 52.4%
Aggro Sword - 54%

>>167568964
In order: Erika, Isabelle, DingDong, Arisa.
Putting Isabelle anywhere else means you're a filthy Daria player and your response is objectively wrong.
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>top 8 in the pro tour this past weekend was literally 3 decks

We're almost as bad as Hearthstone.

Fix your shit, Cygames.
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>>167568626
Who's the guy that's submitting Sparrow Vampire in Masters? Is that just supposed to be Tempo Blood with lots of Storm?
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>>167568964

kill isabelle
marry ding dong
kiss ding dong
fuck ding dong
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are you suppose to just luck into your 1/40 chance of drawing your win condition playing sun satan ffs
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>>167569256
there are supposed two in your deck and your supposed to have lots of card draw
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>>167569256
Some list run 2, 1/20 ain't so bad when you have so many draws.
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Will anything be done to curb anti-fun OTK decks?

D-Shift
Roach
Dragonewt
Seraph
PtP
Silver Bolt

Granted, these are all varying levels of effectiveness/shitness but it doesn't change the fact there are way too many of them. Almost every class has two possible otk decks, wouldn't surprise me if sword and shadow get theirs next expansion. Where's the fun in playing when 90% of the meta your opponent does nothing and then simply wins on turn 7/8?
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>>167569172
dunno, bats work better than aggro shadow to me

i guess the more popular a deck gets the worse its winrate goes

>>167569241
googling its japanese name you get some weird self harming build on app media
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This guy played nothing all game except from ramp cards and unicas, played his Saha + Lucifer combo on turn 7 and then conceded like a gentleman.

Don't be this guy, don't play Saha ramp!
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This is kinda strange.

For the past week and a half, I've almost always run into control decks climbing from A to AA and above.

I've only seen Daria for like maybe 3 out of 10 games? Aggro Blood once in a while. Did the meta shift or something?
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>>167569256
>1/40
That's not how it works.
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How do we stop the aggro sword menace?
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>>167569256
yes, satan decks are shit right now
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>>167566813
I like Grea's dub voice.

Sue me.
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>>167569381
No, all the dorothys are masters already. they are everywhere up here in the big boy ranks. aggro blood is shit and has fallen out of favor though
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Re-posting from previous thread.

Here's a circulating nep deck that supposedly to have 77% winrate (42 win over 54 matches) in master.

Not sold on Soul Conversion, though.
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>>167569441
they don't have aurelia so you can outaggro them
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>>167569371
>Tempo Suicide
Looks interesting, but I'm not about to make 2x Dealers and Dominators. I'll play around with the concept in Casual.
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an anyone tell me why the fuck everyone can draw a card, use it, then boost it, then destroy my leader, but I can't do the same?

Everytime I try to do it, I boost card and it just says, "Cannot attack right now."

Also can I complete Story mode with just Basic Deck? because I'm getting my shit kicked in Chapter 4 and 5.
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>>167569193
It's funny, because I'm actually kind of fearing the next expansion release. Rune in general is pretty ridiculous, and if they don't nerf her in some way, that means that they'll have to buff everyone else to near the same level of ridiculousness. If they don't, we'll just continue to have nothing but Daria throughout the next expansion as well.
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I love Wind God + Cynthia Forest.

It spooks the fuck out of Daria users. Especially if they don't have it by turn 5.
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>>167569586
tempo forest used to be the best deck in the game before RoB, you should have seen it back in its prime
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>>167569526

Piercing Rune reduces only to 2PP and Diarrhea doesn't spellboost your fucking hand sounds good enough to me.

inb4 muh spellboost. You know what happened when you dimension-shift? You end up naked, not armed to the teeth.
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>>167569519
>boost
Huh? Use proper terms. If you're talking about evolving, only cards with the Storm effect can attack your leader on the same turn they were played.
The basic deck + the cards that you get during the campaign should be enough to clear the story mode.
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>>167569643
Only reason it's out because of Daria really.
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>>167569693
Piercing Rune from 1PP to 2PP.

Daria spell boost down from x5 to x3.

There. Daria's fixed.
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Did you worship our lord and savior today?
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>>167569837
>couldn't even save his shit craft from obscurity
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>>167569837
Fuck yeah I did.

I got another Albert unexpectedly so I'm almost near my CSword stuff.
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Welp, I've got my Hamsa sleeves. Might as well stop playing.
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Ding Dong or Unica in a deck?

Unica almost never triggers and at least if bell girl dies I get a plus.
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>>167569914
Unica can trade when they attack her. Ding dong only slows them down.
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>>167569886

What about her?
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Any thoughts?
Playing in A3, put White pals instead of healing angles
saved my ass a couple of times already
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>>167569837
YES
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>>167569837
I'm destined to never pull a single Sword leggo in my packs. It's the only class I can't make a single meta deck of, even after 5 months of playing the game. Cygames just doesn't want me to.
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These are my Shadow golds and legos. Is the cheapest deck I can make still Shadow Aggro?
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>>167569949
Ding Dong can stop Forest from going off for a turn, though. Which can be crucial.
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>>167569503

The current deck of the day on front page of gamepress has some shitty haven deck that run 1 themis,2 skullfane and claim to win 24/30 in master. What do you think ?
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>>167569989
Yes, but you still need 3x of both Cerberus and Phantom Howl.
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>>167569989
Nep might be cheaper for you, especially if you go for the variants with 2 Nep and/or 2 Mord.
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>>167570091
13,700 vials right there when you throw in a third Reaper, so not exactly cheap.

>>167570137
Putting aside Nep's terrible winrate for a moment, how does Nep even function with only 2 Neps when the whole deck is reliant upon drawing Nep by turn 8?
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>>167570034
it was real in his mind
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>>167570034

>30 matches is 54 matches
>gamepress

Is this some elaborated trolling?
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>>167569869
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>>167570173
You asked for the cheapest one, not a cheap one. If you go for Nep, you'd still need the Foul Tempests and a third Death's Breath, on top of the Neps and Mordecais.
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>>167570173

>he needs Nep to win

I don't know, since most conceded when I threw 3 zombies at them.
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>>167569503
unless it's something like 200 matches it means shit

the deck has followers of six different costs too
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Why the fuck does Fangblade's face damage scale with his damage
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>>167570316
Is Nep the only deck that doesn't require 3x Cerbs? Is there any budget replacement for Cerb?
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>>167569503

Gave it a try and not happy with it. I will stick to my list with dingdong and healing angels for early game.
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>>167570173
Well it functions, even if not as consistently as 3 Neps. Technically, aggro Shadow functions with 2 Cerbs as well, you just lose consistency.
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>win 3 games as haven quest
>decide to play seraph haven
>next 3 opponents are control decks that all run 2-3 odins
>i beat all 3
Nice tech you cucks.
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>>167570397
>Fangblade attacks Bahamut
>13 damage to face
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>clearing all the shit with cyclone blade after dropping baha
who said cyclone blade is shit?
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>>167569370
Combo decks are the least likely to be nerfed in this game. Devs are devout combofags, and won't allow combo to be "balanced" aka shit (combo exists in 2 states, overpowered or worthless) as it is in MTG. Combo faggots are honestly the absolute worst when it comes to these games. They know that the archetype NEEDS to b as uninteractive as possible, because the more interact a combo is, the less effective it is. The golden rule of CCGs is to always do the opposite of what a combofag wants if you want an even remotely balanced game.

I'm willing to bet big sums of money that we'll never get combo hate in this game. No card discard or deck hate, no counters pells or spell hate, and no punishment for drawing a lot.
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>>167570405
yes and control Nep is the best shadow deck at the moment, don't listen to the shitters
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>>167570604
>control Nep

How is that different to regular Nep?
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>>167570581
>hit face with baha
>enemy in vengeance now
>drops a duck and then laura
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>>167569503

More addendum about this deck. Aside from relying on Soul Conversion for card draw, you have a higher odd to brick with 6 6PP cards thanks to Ghostly Rider.

If that guy managed to get that winrate, good for him, but it's just too volatile for me.
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>>167570637
>CB running duck
that would be the memeist meme
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>>167570629

Not him, but I suppose he means the type that controls the board instead of filling it with lastword followers such as Attendant. Most seem to go for the latter and forsake defense altogether.
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>>167570661
Duck Laura is legit in the land where every control deck runs baha
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>>167570581
You made me remember that one game I had
>Lucy hides ding dong to stall against bahamut
>fuck this shit, we full retard now
>I evolve Bahamut, then drop Cyclone Blade
>slap him before he disconnects
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>>167570405
Yup. Both Aggro and Midrange Shadow decks run Cerberus.
Cursed Soldier might work as a replacement for her in Aggro, but I'm not a big Shadow player so I can't attest to its effectiveness.
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>>167569503
>barely any 2 pp drops
>soul conversion when you barely have anything worth using it on except corpse and mordecai
>234678 costs

What the hell is this guy thinking? Does he like bricking that much?
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>>167570405

There is this guy in the 5PP cost, but he will change your gameplay by a lot.
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>>167570750
I never realized Disturbed's mascot was in the game.
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>>167570235

>doesn't know what "out of 36 match mean"

And they say human can't be this stupid.
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>>167570831

>24 out of 36 (66%)
>42 out of 54 (77%)

What is your game, kid?
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>>167569961
goblinmount demon in Csword Y/N?
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>>167570886

>trying to play retard after getting called out on failed math
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>>167570405
you gimp yourself massively by not having cerberus. you're going to compromise a lot of games by losing cerb + howl burst
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>>167569961
>no swings
>no monika
>3 amelia and 2 blitz
>no jenos

You are one greedy bastard.
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>>167571059
>cerb + howl

it's a meme
in practice it's coco + anything and mimi when it's fitting
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>>167571028

>too intelligent to describe his autistic math

Give me a layman explanation then, son.
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>>167569961
I've been using x3 Blitz x3 Trooper for quite some time. If I had to use another 3 drop it would be Pally.
You might want to use more 4 drops, you can afford to skip that turn on average.
Personally I'd swap 1x Aurelia (or Olivia, depends on how much aggro you get matched against), 1x Frontguard and x2 Art for x2 Soul Swing x2 Jeno, Teena or Floral.
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Is there any point to running glimmering wings in otk roach?
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>>167571103
>swings
they don't help against diarrhea
>monika
just don't like her, she is probably better in midsword
>amelia and blitz
don't want to get fucked by yulius and i like amelia as a tutor
>jeno
kinda don't have room for him
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> Haven't played the game for a month
> Hop in A0 ranked as the scrub I am
> Against Luna
> Play my turns, alt-tab out as I'm done
> Turn 4
> I hear Phantom Howl
> ohgodpleaseno.mkv
> Animated Atomeme
> Proceed to loose Turn 6

I'm sure this madman of a memer is one of you
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>>167571113

Not him, but you will be surprised how often you need to bank on that to lethal your opponent especially when they have you at lethal with a full board next turn. You need to make sure they stay at 11 defense and below when they pass turn back to you.

Also one reason why I am not fond of piloting the deck. And this is coming from the guy who got to master with Aggro Shadow.
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>>167571059
In my last 10+ games with aggro shadow the number of times I had both howl and Cerberus in my hand was exactly 0.
One of the reasons I don't like aggro shadow.
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>>167571170
what's good in trooper? why he is even in Csword?
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>>167571237
that's why that combo is a meme
usually you just slap coco on any minion that's ready to hit face, not like it decreases its efficiency too
if you cerb survived turn 5 you can buff her, lol
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How much longer do we have until maintenance?
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>>167571312
*your cerb
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>>167571312

>actually has 1PP to play puppet the moment you play cerb

What do you usually do on turn 5, anon? Turn 5 Cerb is usually the optimum play.
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I've started to see Japs running Dark General too!
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>>167571293
I was fed up with some dshift faggots so I decided to go the aggressive route. It also kills fairies and bats, granted it is not the best defensive option but she is a very good card still.
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>>167571361

My Cerb.
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Guys, this just in.

3 fucking animated Bahamut for top 100 master player + 5000 rupies
1 animated bahamut for top 1000 master player + 2500 rupies

THIS MONTH
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>>167571023
No, Aurelia is better against aggro and won't fuck up your board.
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>>167571432
killer devil seems to be back too

aggro blood is truly Tier 3 again
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>>167571474

Just so my ass won't be the source.

https://shadowverse.com/news/information/news-0068
https://shadowverse.jp/news/information/news-0116
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>>167571113
>>167571312
you certainly don't need to play them together to win, but there's nothing "meme" about 11 damage burst,
especially when you are often starved for a follower to throw the +2 pupper on by turn 6.
it's about as consistent as playing otohime -> sage commander, and no, maid leader does not make that significantly more consistent
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>>167571439
dshift huh
any control loses to dshift anyway, so what's the point
white pal is perfect against aggro low cost followers spam
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>>167571474
A-Am I going to make it /svg/?
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>>167571541

>top dogs at 20k already

You will need to forsake RL to stand a chance at top 100. Try go for 1000.
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>>167571475
what if aurelia AND goblinmount?
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>>167571474
Time to see the amount of Elves in Master increase tenfold.
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>>167571585
5 drops slot is tight enough already.
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>>167571593

You mean Diarrhea. Gonna pack all those control decks.
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>>167571541
play elf
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>>167571536
If you curve out Trooper/Floral/Albert/Alwidas dshift can't win on average. And if you don't have the perfect curve you still have a chance anyway.
I went from losing to every single dshift to winning at least half the games. It didn't hurt my other matchups aside from Aggro Shadow (which is still positive by a mile) so I'm fine with that.
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>>167571625
Control decks don't do shit against Dorothy half the time because you're dead by the time you can play your actual control shit and then when you think you're safe they just Demon Strike you for lethal.
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>>167571584
I know, was just posing

>>167571648
but elf is food for my oglers
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>>167571621
you can count albert as 9 drop
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fuck you brainless aggrotards
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>>167571870
That's what you get for playing dshift faggot
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I'm about to buy 1200 crystals. Please stop me.
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>>167571870
just ward bro
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>>167571921
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>>167571959
no
stop
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>>167571870
No, fuck you.
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>>167571990
Why Vania always do the paw thing?
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>>167572036
It's cute as fuck.
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>>167572036
Because she's a filthy animal.
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>>167572036
Retarded, literally.
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>>167572036
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=limp%20wrist
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>>167571959
What's the point of money if you can't spend it on things you like?
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>>167572061
>>167572107
Rude
>>
what deck will get me pussy
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>>167571474
>>167571517
For people who got top 1000 last time for the free Olivia, what was your rank and how many games and score did it take you?
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>>167572135
Cygames doesn't deserve your money because of the pic you posted.
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>>167572135
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>>167572128
Does that mean she's gay or she's actually a guy?
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>>167572163
Forestcraft
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>>167572182
Around 15.5k for rank 640, just under 40k score rewards.
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>>167572163
Control blood
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>>167572223
That's a lot lower than I expected
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>>167572218
she imitates veight :3
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what the actual fuck is going on
how i'm supposed to deal with this
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>>167572290
You shouldn't complain when your t3 deck gets beaten by a t1 deck
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>>167572290
just cyclone blade it bro
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First time rerolling and don't know shit about the cards value. Is it good?
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>>167571481

Top tier bait M8
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>>167572290
>he fell for the mid sword meme

I did too, it sucks
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>>167572449
show golds too but probably not good enough, even if I really life Wolf
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>>167572343
>>167572481
>le midrange sword is bad meem
How about not building all your shit netdecks from gamepress
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>>167572290
This is why Cyclone Blade should cost 4.
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>>167572520
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>>167572575
Yeah, get your lists from game AI instead. :^)
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>>167572575
>A2
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>>167572597
I'd reroll, only good ones here are paladin, dire bond, sadistic night and death's breath

Good stuff for control blood but that's the most expensive deck in the game
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>>167572693
I'm A3 now thanks to sword.
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>Gimping your deck against favorable match ups to have a slight chance against your counter
Explain yourself :thinking:
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>>167572762

That's precious.
>>
>can't sleep
>decide to open shadowverse and play solitaire to relax
>steadily ranking up
I thought Daria was supposed to have bullied dshift off the ladder? I'm meeting the mirror about as much as I am daria - and losing to the mirror about the same amount, too
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>>167568823
as much as I love Cerbutt, people are dissing Nepthighs way too fast
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>>167572785

Any specifics or just more shitposting from our resident Channeru avatarfag?
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>>167572796
masters was full of dshift and roach for me last night with the occasional seraph popping up every now and then
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>losing to memedecks like tempo elf and LoTF shadow as Csword
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>>167572881
stop playing sword, it's shit
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>>167572881
>Just beat dshift as control blood
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>>167572928
t. Rhinoceroach
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>>167567239
I always keep a justice in hand for my bunga bros ;^)
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Wait. Why is Nep supposed to be bad again?
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>don't play a single follower all game so Dshift doesn't have a target for spells
>Dshift otk still goes off turn 7
Glad I followed the advice of /svg/
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>>167567120
>if you use wards roach can't kill you!

l m a o
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>>167566813
I'm still butthurt about Manaria friends
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>>167572575
>4 win streak
>A2

lol
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>>167573176
>memed by wolfcoming
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>>167573176
that's a pretty neat combo, admit it
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>>167573176
Sugoi
>>
87833
pls
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>>167573176
Should've banished the wolf
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>>167573057
people are getting too caught up with winrates

god knows what sort of nep deck people on shadowlog use
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>>167573057

Because they don't want Khawy to be all over the place.
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>>167573243
>AA0
>trashtalking someone
Go eat some more rice, kid.
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>>167573294
Thanks, master.
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>>167573243
Nice daria deck dude, you're really good!
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Is Leonidas good or just a meme?
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>>167573465
High quality meme now that Albert is a thing. Still a meme though.
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>>167573465
Turn9 do nothing,
gets odined in mirror matchups, redundant vs aggro
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>>167573057
Because it has a weak early game backed up by a slow 8 drop that doesn't win you the game. Aggro decks demolish it and combo decks kill before Nep can win the game. Even control decks have win conditions that can push through a Nep.

>>167573465
Meme. Insanely slow card.
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>>167573465
Has no use against aggro, little use against control decks since most of them run at least 2 odins and 1 baha. He's either getting banished or his amulet getting smashed.
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>>167573176
Don't worry, soon they'll give Haven a Sexton equivalent too so they can prevent Seraph from being banished.

Why should combo decks have a weakness?
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Has anyone experienced this before? Can't download the new data despite having over 200gb of space and I've already tried clearing the cache/uninstall and then reinstall.
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>>167573686
Never happened to me, but have you tried cleaning the registry?
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I have never seen an AA unbriddled madness runecraft player not be dshift.
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>>167573786
Well yea
It's a 40% w/r deck
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>>167573786
unbridled madness is such a shit flair
if you're not going to use a flair that means something at least go with the classics like first farer
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>>167573786
Every Runecraft adept I ran into at AA used to be dshift when I was climbing.
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>>167573814
Only if you're bad at playing/building it. Top ranked player in DE had an 80% winrate despite shadowlog average being sub 50%.
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>>167571217
Amelia doesn't tutor
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Should i use themis and continue to bully her for the rest of the turns instead of winning the game immediately?
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>>167573850
Actually, I'm retarded, of course they were dshift, it was DE for fucks sake.
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>>167572935
You don't beat dshift as control anything. They just brick.
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>>167570637
>[Acoustic guitars intensify]
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>>167571119

Do you even know what "out of..." mean?

At this point I'm not going to bother replying anymore,I'm convinced I'm talking to a genuinely illiterate retard.
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>>167573930
Only if you want to die to triple Blade Mage.
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new player here. i wanted to try running 3 decks but it seems like that isn't easy to do. do you guys usually just focus on one deck while liquefying all the other cards?

are any of the prebuilt decks worth spending on? i was thinking of maybe getting 600 crystals.
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>>167573930
I hope you get double demonic stormed + 2 angelic sniped or blader.
Don't play with your food, if you think the opponent might have something they ALWAYS fucking have it.
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>>167571180
In the event you need to remove a big ward for your roach facehug
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>>167574004
Craft one more soul dealer.
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>>167573930
I've met darias running pertifications so why would you.
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>>167574004
starting with 3 decks would require some serious autism, you're better off rerolling for one deck/craft you're interested in

and forest, shadow and blood have the best value out of the prebuilts
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>>167574004
>are any of the prebuilt decks worth spending on?
forest shadow and blood all get bretty good value out of the prebuilt decks
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>>167574004
If you're going to play multiple craft, only liquefy trash legends and some gold.
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>>167574004
>Good cards
Cerberus, Lucifer, Olivia, Bahamut
>Alright cards
Matriarch, Eldwood
>Meme tier
Dealer, Pascale, Eidolon, Skullfam

Honestly as a new player you should take full advantage of all the shit they give you (including the easy to get ranked rewards and free arena runs) to round up some usable decks and do dailies, just make sure you don't climb too much else you will need to focus on a good deck. Rerolling until you get some good stuff for the craft you like the most is also a thing, but honestly I'd keep that roll even if it is pretty spread up.
As for prebuilts, Forest is the best one, and Shadow is pretty good. Sword and Dragon are ok, Haven is absolute trash and I'm not 100% sure about the rest but I think Blood might be alright.
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>>167573243

Hey lady with big boobs, wanna play?
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imagine if meme dealer was a 4/6 instead
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>>167574203
he's good with bloody mary
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>>167573057
there is no way in hell a card that says "take x from deck and put it into play" will ever be considered bad. if you want to talk about if nep is good right now, its debatable, but the "just liquefy nep bro" people are retarded.
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>>167574176
>Pascale
She has some use in Dirt right?
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>>167574203
>dies to DoD
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>>167574176
Eidolon is a meme but it's not a bad card. Might get some support in the next expansion.
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>>167574052
Glimmering wings is card draw. You're thinking about pixie mischief.
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>>167574221
Literally none. You can never set her up no matter the meta. Just too slow.
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>>167574221
As a meme, has been for a while. Most Dirt lists are running Satan I think.
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>finally craft aggro shadow
>10 losing streak
I must be doing something wrong.
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>>167574276
post dick and rank
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>>167574276
>I must be doing something wrong.
Yeah, you crafted an aggro shadow deck.
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>>167574004
>do you guys usually just focus on one deck while liquefying all the other cards?
I just played budget everything for a while and didn't play much outside of dailies until I got to B1 or so
At that point I had accumulated enough of a collection to craft aggro shadow without liquefying anything, and by the time I was bored of aggro shadow I had enough to craft storm haven without liquefying anything, and by the time I was bored of storm haven I had enough to craft PTP forest, etc


>are any of the prebuilt decks worth spending on?
besides haven, they're all good deals for 500 crystals, buy whatever you like
>>
i have got my third saha
do i even need more than two saha?
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>>167574221
Bad players put shit like Pascale and Erasmus in Dirt because they say "it's a meme deck anyway!", however she's really bad in dirt and nobody should run her
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>>167574245
>Eidolon is a meme but it's not a bad card.
yes it is
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>>167574276
>craft a deck that was hot shit 2 weeks ago
>why am I not getting any win streaks

10 losses are indeed a lot though, so you must be doing something wrong

do you play reaper on curve?
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>>167574004
If you're new you can ladder with any decks you want.

That being said liquifying shit legendaries will give you a head start.
Just pick one deck you want to complete first then move on to the next one.
Focus on enabling as many crafts as possible for dailies.
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>>167574276
You are 2 weeks too late for easy aggro shadow wins
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>>167574276
post deck
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>>167573760
While I began to do that I had notice that my appdata folder was set to read only and turning that off had fixed it but still thanks for the help.
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Why couldn't she be a 6 or 7 drop and not have her shitty effect on her? Why does vengeance have to be a shit mechanic? It's not fair bros.
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>>167574385
Nah. It's actually 3-7 but yeah it's pretty meh. Well at least I got some shadow deck and sweet Cerb butt.
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>>167574276
i have just finished my win 4 shadow games dailies winning 4:2 with aggro shadow

won the last game because managed to do cerb -> howl turn 5-6 combo vs aggro blood who nearly killed me too. desu cerb wasn't needed because i forced him to use demonic storm which killed my evolved cerb and put him to 7hp and me to 4hp, 7hp it's in the range of the naked howl + evolve, i couldn't hold myself to bm a bit with buffing the ghosts and using mimi anyway though

on a side note, haven with its healing is a cancer worse than 10 darias together
>>
>Cocytus Laura Control has positive winrate in masters
Birth of a new t1 deck incoming
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>>167574473
her stats should reset to 6/6 once you hit vengeance at the very least desu
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>>167574517
haven is chemo though
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>>167574473
Having brazen demoness effect on her would have made more sense.
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>>167574372
if there were more high countdown, low pp amulets he would be pretty good
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>>167574356
pls answer
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All unga bunga blood players can finally go back to HS.
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>>167574603
An easy fix would be making so it don't trigger if you're lower than your opponent. I see no reason for it to be a vengeance card.
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>>167574473
>Why couldn't she be a 6 or 7 drop and not have her shitty effect on her?
how exactly would this change anything, besides making her worse?
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>>167574629
But there is already of lot of those, pegasus and bunch of 2 cost amulets that don't see play.
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>>167574716
Sadistic night wouldn't be a shit 7-drop
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>>167574692
ungoro bungoro

aggro is fun!
healing is cancer in any pvp game
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>>167571293
>trooper
>he
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>>167574772
how do you know how novice trooper identifies their gender?
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>>167574746
>aggro is fun!
not if you dont have autism
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>>167574873
>not having autism
>posting in a 4chan mobage thread
might want to rethink your life choices tbqhfam
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>>167574817
By the titplate.
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>have 8k vials and a fuckton of trash golds to dust
>no deck i feel like spending them on
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>>167575024
Is this the ugliest girl card in the game right now
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>>167575026
Give them to me senpai.
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>>167574276
aggro needs one of its two win conditions

shadow reaper or phantom howl+cerberus

without either its a real uphill battle, and the current control heavy meta doesn't help
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>>167575026
just build the latest dragon memedeck and go lose with it in ranked

it's what I have been doing since DE
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>>167575024
that's what the society forces her to wear!
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>>167575026
Ptp haven ft. servant of darkness and dark offering
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>>167574185
Neph?
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>>167575171
That bowtie on the bird always crack me up
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I am fucking done, time to craft 3 Darias
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>>167575264
the bird looks so sad too
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>>167575281
Get ready for the bricks
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>>167575281
i guess it's too late, it's the time for d-shift now

https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/aa1-master-rank-d-shift-daria-runecraft-151-wins-out-200-matches
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>>167575305
Nice meme
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>>167575305
>>167575319
like pottery
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>>167575319
Daria in Dshift?
How does that even work?
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>>167575319
>gamepress
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>>167575319
i feel so bad for anyone who falls for the daria d-shift meme
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>>167575390
You mostly rely on classical daria as a wincon but then switch over to dshift against hard control matchups
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>>167575390
really spellboosts herself on the d-shift card
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>>167574352
>>167574070
>>167574176
>>167574130
>>167574126
>>167574094

>>167574393
>Focus on enabling as many crafts as possible for dailies.
sorry, what do you mean?

>good deals
i see. but are the prebuilt decks worth it more than the packs you could get for those crystals?

right now i'm split between forest, blood,haven and maybe sword. sword seems like the safest choice but it's not all that interesting. i like forrests playstyle. i want to try blood or haven but i'm not sure if it's worth it. both feel clunky compared to forrest, but i guess i don't understand them that well yet.

for now, i was thinking of going for this: https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/aa0-rank-budget-aggro-bloodcraft-34-wins-out-50-matches
or maybe i'll just get the blood or forest prebuild deck.

but i'm still playing in beginners so maybe i can wait. my first opponent was pretty easy.
when does one leave the beginner lobby?

also i think i'll wait with liquefying things until i get a better grasp of the game. i'm not a hoarder i swear
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>>167575390
You don't have to explain shit when your entire class is broken. Fuck spellboost.
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>>167575319
I still don't understand how the fuck this deck is supposed to work.
You get Dshift on the first turns and you cannot use Dorothy anymore or you'll just dump your wincon. If you play Dorothy and pull Dshift, you can't play it anyway.
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>>167575281
>craft 1 daria since already pulled two from packs
>its shit
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Almost got memed.
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>>167575213

Yeah, neph.
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>>167575547
that ogler's adorable eye

ogler sleeves when
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>>167575550
>you cannot use Dorothy anymore or you'll just dump your wincon
cast dorothy on your dshift turn after playing dshift, dingus
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>>167575578
Dorothy only works when you're playing against her.
When you play her yourself you go 1st and don't get any Dorothy, Levis or runes.
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>>167575578
>>167575630
Nice try dariashitters
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>>167575630
this

i realized it when i crafted two dorothies, two levis and three piercing runes

aggro blood is so much more comfy, at least you feel you are in control of your deck
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>>167575319
i experimented this deck for a bit, its a meme

never got to dshit once in 16 test games, all my wins were purely from daria
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>>167575506
>>Focus on enabling as many crafts as possible for dailies.
We mean having a collection that might not be perfect, but it is spread up enough so that you can complete dailies with relative ease so that you won't miss any rupies.

>i see. but are the prebuilt decks worth it more than the packs you could get for those crystals?
Yes because it gives you a lot of good cards including the animated leggo.

The Forest prebuilt gives you a lot of pieces for any Forest deck you want to play, so it is the safest bet you'll make on your life, plus Ancient Elf's alternate art is beautiful as fuck, best in the set.
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>>167575390
I've seen it a couple times in ranked and the nips said it was tier 1 when the new meta came out.
Really sucks how even the memest rune decks are legit tier 0 right now.
I mean, come on. Fucking snowmen decks are wrecking havoc in ranked the class as a whole is broken. Elf and sword never pulled off this much bullshit where they could play anything and still win.
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>>167575591
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>>167575630
But why the fuck would you play her when you can just play Flame destroyers and achieve the same thing?
If you don't pull any Ogler/Bladers with her you can't even hit face that hard.
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>play control
>run into multiple aggro who go first and perfect curve
>switch to otk roach
>run into multiple ward heavy control decks
>switch to daria
>run into multiple haven with themis ready as soon as I drop daria
I swear this shit is rigged.
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>>167575714
ogler cheating on dorothy
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>>167575506
>sorry, what do you mean?
Work towards having decks that can win games with 5 different crafts. Do not play too much ranked (I would not go above D rank) before you do.
Some crafts have really cheap budget decks like Haven (Storm Haven) , Sword (Banner) and Blood (Aggro Blood).
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>>167575738
meant for >>167575607
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>>167575741
>getting themis'd as daria
>leaving haven alive by turn 6
wow thanks for confirming that you are just shitposting
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>>167575714
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>>167575674
go and craft three darias yourself and post results

you will be severely disappointed once you find out how overrated the deck is. i went in expecting an easy ride to masters and wasted two whole evenings endlessly demoting from a3 instead.
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Is it good for a reroll?
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>>167575738
Because even if you ignore here effect, in the end she's still a 5/5 and you won't always she's still a card that can be played at 0
If you played a ton of DE Dshift then you'd know what a pain it was being able to get Dshift off but not having enough low cost followers to lethal with it anyway since you didn't draw your Destroyers.
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>>167575776
imo budget is a wrong word to aggro blood
it's not like there is a good expensive and cheap inexpensive versions of aggro blood, its good version is cheap

>>167575819
keeper of the light
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New expansion leaks when?
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>decide to play some midrange sword
>think it's going to be complete shit
>go from 1.3k to AA3 to AA3
I can't believe the fishes are dancing.
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>>167575845
>A3

Ok shitter, I am sure you know more than all the top 100 masters spaming Daria
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>>167575738
it's just a shitty meme. it tries to be good at two things but ends up half assing two things. individually the dshift and daria packages brick enough already, put them together and you will replace dirt rune as the brick archetype of choice.
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>hagfags always have cudgel on 4 and themis on 6
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>>167575891
Still 2 months left of Daria lad
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how is cblood against roach?
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>>167576021
bad
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>>167575891
end of this month probably
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>>167576021
roach is all about one turn killing

so blood is bretty bad
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>>167576056
dykes!
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>>167575959
>still complaining about haven

haven winrate is lower than fucking dragon already. git gud or stop playing diarrhea
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>>167575591
I sincerely hope you position your oglers so that when you evolve one they look at each other
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>>167576021
Save all your veights and vampire queens for turns 7-25 and pray they don't have answers
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>>167575818
>implying you perfect curve every game
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>>167576021
On my experience as a Forest player?
That matchup is so fucking free it's not even funny.
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This is Rami's VA right?
Not a lot of screaming can get my dick as hard.
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Can this applies to Shadowverse?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJmnVieooUo
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>>167575851
If you want to play Haven, keep it. Otherwise reroll.

>>167576164
Yes
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>>167576167
No.
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>>167576108
shut the fuck up
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Whats with this concede requests? Is it a quest I didnt get or something?
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>>167576167
Absolutely not, Shadowverse is a relatively slow TCG. Average game length in MTG is around 8 turns and Yugioh is even faster than Hearthstone. The people who want super slow control mirrors haven't played other TCGs to know how fast they are.
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>>167576167
>aggro decks are bad
>short games are bad
>long games makes me feel smart :^)

t. control cuck
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>>167576164
>use LN art in the ending sequence
>anime has retarded original faces instead
I hate that shit.
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>>167576021
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>>167576347
>TCG
Opinion discarded. You don't know the difference between CCG and TCG.
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>>167576339
concede into my arms!

they have a daily for a private win
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How is Yurius, Levin Duke only bronze? That thing is amazing.
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>Draconic Bond
>Amulet
>Whenever you discard a card, your opponent randomly discards one of their lowest cost cards and draws a card.
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need a concede
64905
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>>167576481
It's powerless, for now.
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>>167574696
>>167574473

Because the devs though a follower with higher stats for its curve would be legendary-worthy and powerful even with 2 downsides. Now that they realized the card is shit they are experimenting the concept "higher stats, low cost, downside" with Mastema.
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>>167576481
>wanting the game to be p2w

there is a lot of amazing bronze (gobu, dod, rabbit necro, demonic strike etc) and even basic cards
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anyone got an otk roach list
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>>167576485
Should be highest cost card to stop Dshitters and Havenfags.
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>>167576167
Holy shit WTF??
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>>167576481
floral, cudgel etc are literally given to you for FREE and they're all amazing
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Post "that" pic. You know the one I'm talking about.
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When will Ambush get more support!!
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>>167576671
>3/2 that summons a 1/1 with storm for 1 p/p

what
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>>167576712
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>>167576671
Sword needs this card
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>>167576731
Until random abilities stop targetting them

never
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>>167576671
I wonder what's blizzard excuse for this.
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>>167576741
>>167576807
Seems to have been change before released
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>>167576671
i am scared how an actually powerful buccaneer looks like
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>>167576639
You can swap Selwyn's and Tia for stuff like WotF, glimmerings and mischief if you want to, these are not staples.
>>167576731
Be grateful Tsubaki is already a good card as it is.
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>>167575587
Oh, man. Could you screecap your deck? Neph is my main but I still suffer from lack of consistency
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>>167576829
if they wanted it to see play they should have just made it Gets +1 attack and charge if you have a weapon equiped
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>>167576741
That card has +2 attack if you have a weapon equipped, and a 1/1 legendary that summons itself from anywhere if you play a pirate from what little I understand of HS
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Catan is LIVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS_WMLoeT00
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>>167576671
>>167576741
>>167576775
>>167576807
>>167576829
It's a photoshop you retards. He's implying that STB is effectively equivalent to that card due to its synergy with Patches and weapons
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vampy would look cute with a fake eye patch
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>been over a week since the last meta analytic
>still hasn't posted it yet

dat damage control tho
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how can i improve this
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>>167576671
who is this bum-looking faggot?
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>>167576829
btw he has cute panties
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>>167577017
Ben Brode
>>
NINJA CLAN, HERE WE STAND
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>Dragonbro thought he was cute because he dropped a bahamut on his own bahamut
>I still won
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I'm done with this shit game.

I'm confident they have no intention at all to nerf blatantly broken, overplayed and only soft counterable shit like Daria and will instead make it irrelevant by powercreeping even harder next expansion.
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>>167577205
You're not fooling anyone. You're here forever.
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0-4 grind from AA3 to masters and reach top 1000
5-9 dont play this game until next expo or daria nerf

rollan
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>>167577205
Delete yourself, shitter.
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>>167577276
If dubs, you have to reroll.
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>>167577205
I can't rank up even when playing Dorothy.
I'm done because I probably suck at this game anyway. Too bad it took me 650+ games and AA0 to realize that.
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>>167576731
Ambush is dead forever thanks to the le random destruction xd meme cygames is pushing so hard
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>>167577249
>>167577336
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>>167577205
Midsword/tempo elf were extremely cancerous last expac but they both got gutted this expac.
They're doing their job balancing decks but they'd clearly rather not interfere as much as possible outside of expacs.
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>>167577347
well, see you in 2 months /svg/
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I'm seriously considering putting in Sexton on my Nepmemes. Every control deck that's not dshift runs Odin so Mordecai just gets destroyed.
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>>167577367
And never come back.
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>>167577205
just play control blood
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>>167577367
STOP
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>>167577370
they're not "balancing", they're just powercreeping harder and harder
expect consistent turn 4 floods or board clears next expansion

>>167577408
cblood can easily lose to daria just like seraph
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>>167577370
To be fair, the way they were gutted was through power creep. Bullshit stats in midrange used to be 7/12 on turn 6 via otohime. Daria can do even better than that a turn earlier.
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>>167577398
Pointless desu. You can't play both Morde and Sexton until turn 10 anyway and if they let Morde live without insta Odin it, they lose anyway.
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>>167577367
Good riddance. You seem annoying as hell.
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>>167577469
>if they let Morde live without insta Odin it, they lose anyway
they can odin your morde 1 turn later and it won't be a problem for them

it's not like he's an autowin once he's played
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>>167577398
>pulls out sexton, hell's and khawy, no mordecai
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>>167577408
>just play control blood and autolost to OTK Roach, Ramp Dragon, and DShift, the second, third, and fourth most popular decks

Fixed that for you.
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>>167577205
keep crying bitch nigga lmao
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>>167577336
>>167577401
>>167577474
you're taking this really personally
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>>167577469
Oh fuck a 5/5 on turn 8, I lost.

Wait a second, *Dshifts, Seraphs, Roaches, Alberts, Dragonewts, fucking anything* Nevermind, I won.
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>>167577548
It doesn't auto-lose to those decks, though.
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>>167577528
They can, but they never do. They ALWAYS Odin it next turn because they are afraid of Urd. Only time they won't is when they don't actually have Odin.
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>>167577564
Probably Dariashitters themselves. Or they realize he's right but are too invested in this game already.
>>
89077
Need a win no concede
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>>167577581
It comes very close to an auto loss versus dshift and roach tbqhfam.
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>play arena as Shadowcraft
>Dragon guy i was facing dropped all the fatties like Inferno Dragon and that dragon that gains +4 attack on attack
>notice his hand is almost empty
>drop Bahamut
>he ragequits

Outdragoned?
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>>167577580
If they play any of those they aren't going to play Odin anyway so Sexton is pointless.
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>>167577564
No, its just that no one needs people like him who constantly cry about stuff instead of playing the game and coming up with a solution.
>>
Neat
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>play Aggro Sword since why not, their stats arent bad
>face Daria and actually outspeed him before he even starts shitting out all the followers

Interesting
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>>167577732
UTSU
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>>167577732
うつ
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>>167577728
>coming up with a solution

You mean playing Dorothy yourself and pray you go 2nd in a mirror?
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>>167577728
there is no solution to daria though other than playing her herself and rolling better than the opponent in the mirror
cblood and seraph just lose if they don't draw their board clear by 6 and the dariashit doesn't brick

at least roach has actual counters
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>>167577638
>versus dshift
True but its not played all that much.

>roach
Its not that bad since you can play a shitload of wards and healing. You just have to save your wards for turn 6+.

Also, stop typing like a retard.
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>>167577620
I'm still waiting
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>>167577728
>and coming up with a solution.
I wish there was a solution but alas over a month later she's still the most played deck and hands down the most strongest.
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>>167577581
Control Blood is a joke.
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>>167577809
roach has a 55% winrate in masters while daria has 52%

if you are facing a lot of darias play haven
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Seraph is destroying the ladder right now, +2k in 1:30h at AA1

Literally no Odins in sight
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>>167577887
Control blood has a near 30% winrate vs roach, the matchup sucks my man.
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>>167576868

Here you go.
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>>167577926
Дapья Teмпoвич
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>>167577784
I'm talking about not being bad at the game.

>>167577809
>cblood and seraph just lose if they don't draw their board clear by 6 and the dariashit doesn't brick
Holy shit nigga you are retarded. Both decks play a shitload of removal and have draw power.
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>>167577926
>16.6%
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>>167577620
ty anon
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>>167577887
>not that bad
>literally less than 30% winratio at masters
Stop lying.
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>>167577997
kill yourself
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>>167577975
you're the hero nep needs, anon. been playing this build for a few days now and i literally only lose to dshift
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This game launches in gookland tomorrow, right? Prepare for the zerg rush.
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>>167577997
post your rank trashbag
don't bother replying if you aren't master btw
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>>167577975
I was doing really good with it until I got matched with 3 Seraphs and 4 Dshifts in a row because the game saw I was winning and decided to fix that.
Seraph is an instant loss, you even have more chance against Dshift.
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>>167578031
Get good, scrub.
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>>167577942
In master you just assume they have Odin, just wait until you get closer. I've considered adding a third Seraph because of how many games need both Seraph draws.
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>>167576881
>getting rekt by Daria and OTK roach
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>>167577975
been playing this and getting fucked by odins all day
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If I were to give a ward unit, ambush, would they be able to attack me or would they be in a soft lock.
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>>167578129
they would attack you
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>>167578129
They can't defend because they're hiding
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>>167578129
Ward doesn't apply to ambushed followers
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97982 gonna need a concede in here.
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Anyone here who want to concede a match for my daily?

12732
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>>167578193
>tfw no 7000 spaces on board to fill with skeletons
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>>167577975
I really like this Nep build more than the other ones I've tried. The 3PP heals and wards are so much better than Liches and thigh assassins.

Got to say though that a third of my wins even in Master are people who are retarded and don't deal with Reapers correctly.
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3 levi evolves in a row

I didnt want any HP anyway
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>>167578176
Thank you dragon man.
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>>167578048

Certainly makes me happy that someone is having success with it. Against DShift, you can only push damage with evolution and hope they don't have Fire Chain to clear your board. Even wardless zombies help to keep the pressure on them.

>>167578071

Can't really do much against Seraph other than hoping for them not to draw into it. It's an unfavored matchup in all nep variant unless you pack Odin (duh). See above regarding Dshift.
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Can't stop the wolf
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96186 concede please.
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>>167578267
Rippah tsuyoi
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Wolf that shit up.
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>>167578326
Thanks vampy
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kek
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>>167576881
>7,8 and 9 roaches after 0 Homecoming
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>>167578454
Guy at least deserved it after getting his first wolf banished.
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>>167578604
He got outplayed hard
But he had more wolfes
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>>167576881
link?
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>>167578659
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38670 Could use a concede for daily, or can beat you normally if you need private match games.
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What if themis was neutral?
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>>167578913
Expect a 5pp neutral themis next expansion.
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>>167578951
5pp neutral banish themis
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Reminder that you'll never touch Amelia.
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>>167578124

Yeah, Odin hurts a lot since you are only carrying 2 morde, that's why you have other cards like reaper and zombies to push in the damage with.

>>167578267

Daria players do mess up a lot when dealing with reapers that leads to a lot of surprising wins.
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>>167579007
That also doesn't clear your side of the board
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>>167579007
>banish 1 card in your hand; banish all cards on the field
Would be nice.
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>he doesn't has only one Leonidas
>the absolute madman uses TWO of them
What a guy.
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>>167579196
>Building your deck around one card
>Using only one
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Need a concede here, please 60170
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>>167579120
i replaced the DoDs in the build with CoC to help offset odin, although i'm honestly not sure if the two extra damage from DoD is just as effective at winning you the game than the extra threats CoC give you
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>control blood satan deck that's built like a brick
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Vampy what are you doing?
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>>167579278
Thanks Kite!
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>turn 6 imp lancer

Why do they ALWAYS have it?
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>>167579453
It's called brick lancer because it's always in your hand since turn 1. You can be certain they always have it, and it's really annoying at times.
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>>167579448
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>no nerfs in the near future
>two months until the next expansion which is going to be so shitty Daria will be remembered as a fair and balanced deck
>no survey packs given
>the meta is awful and boring
>35% of the ladder is Rune, dariashitters are everywhere
Is there ANY reason at all to keep playing this game anymore?
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>Plays double Dire Bond and draws an Odin
Calculated
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>>167579708
Koreans will come and reinvent the meta.
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>>167579740
>queen vamp second
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>>167579708
saving for the next xpack
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>>167579708
No, go back to /hsg/.
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What the thing people write here that triggers you the most?

>Roach should be nerfed

Fuck you!
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>>167579708
Nope.

Just play HS again.
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>>167579740
>>167579760
Please stop shitting up the thread with your random comment.
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god this cblood deck sucks
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>>167579857
Make me, big boy.
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>>167579708
>>167579771
>>167579813
Hearthstone has no cancerous shit like:
-Haven
-Daria
-DShift
-Rune in general
-Rhinoroaches
-Salty cucks disconnecting after the loss
-Turn 6 lethals (fuck you Aggro Shadow)
-Half-naked cartoon children in card art
-3 copies of one legendary in a deck, i mean, what the fuck?

Hearthstone has:
-Less aggro
-More deck diversity
-More class diversity
-More (and better) singleplayer content
-Better waifus (pandas anyone?)
-Stories to tell your friends
-More epic memes!
-An actual future ahead of it instead of being a quick mobage cashgrab which is going to die in a few months like Shadowverse

Also Hearthstone's original dub voice is in English so weaboos can fuck off and kill themselves

Anyway i'm enjoying it a lot more than i did with Shadowverse. Check it out.
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>tfw first game with roach
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>>167579931
Kys blizzcuck
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>>167579802
Roach should be nerfed. Every forest deck is a disguised roach deck of many flavors and it will continue to be that way until either roach is nerfed or forest gets some cards that aren't shit.
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>playing take two as shadow
>long ass close game
>have lethal in hand
>spam sorry emote
>completely fuck up the combo and might lose
>opponent already left from sorry spam

todays gonna be a good day
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Why don't the people who complain about this game every day just fuck off? Why are they here?

Really makes you think huh
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>>167579986
>Roach should be nerfed.
fuck you
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>>167580059
It's because of /hsg/ refugees. They play a game they hate and feel the need to complain about non-stop.
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>>167579931
>(pandas anyone?)
This one always gets me, thank you Brodeposter
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>>167580059
Because you can counter Daria but it's impossible to beat pizza shit face
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>mirror match
>opponent's first three turns are exact copies of yours
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>>167580183
are we playing forest right now?
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>>167580173
>Because you can counter Daria
How?
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>>167580229
Aggro blood actually
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>>167579330

The thing about DoD is that it also fills in the turn 5 play so you get enough Shadow for a powered Death's Breath on turn 6.

While CoC does sound appealing with the 13/13, I think Pact does it better by putting a body immediately on turn 7. This deck also lacks any form of reach, so that 2 damage can sometimes help to close a game in your favor. I have beaten a DShift doing just that before it took off with its combo.
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>>167580059
You have them everywhere. I see them in many generals not only on this board.

>this franchise is getting worse and worse
>this game is such fucking bullshit
>this MMO is getting worse with each expansion
>this games meta is so fucking bad

I do admit that the meta is a bit annoying right now, but thats a given in ANY card game. Of course there WILL be something that people abuse to death. Its the same with fighting games, its impossible to have a 100% perfect balanced game. Just play with people who arent meta shitters then or play unranked. You will face meta fucks there too, sure, but it isnt nearly as bad as in ranked. At least I tend to see many different decks there and I myself use it to test out decks or to use fundecks. People need to calm the fuck down and just enjoy things.
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>tfw want to build storm sword but only have one Albert
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>die to nothing but blade mages and burn

Fun and Interactive deck guys xD
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Low rank too ez, lmao

What deck even works as a bug buster, when everyone is playing Daria/AggroBlood
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>didnt go face with water fairy before i dropped elf
>missed lethal by 1
and of course he top decked altered fate next turn
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>>167580419
Play aggro blood and kill them before they get roach off.
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>>167580394
Just play Elana bro
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>>167580059
>Why are they here?
Because we want to talk about the game? If you need a safe space because you can't stand the idea that not everyone shares your slobbering adoration for the things you've autistically chosen to base your ego around, reddit is right around the corner
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>>167580419
Which deck do you use? I have 2 ancient elves and 2 roaches, should I craft another roach and go nuts in C rank?
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>tech in 2 odins
>never run into shadowcraft ever again
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>>167580524
At least you have them for bahamut fuckery, seraph, frontguard, etc.
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i'm retarded, what happens if you use azazel with bloody mary?
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>>167580524
it's still useful against bahamut, leonidas, frontguard, seraph, ptp, conjuring force, name it and odin fucks with it

except dshift of course
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>>167580504
Crying about the game being ''unfair'' and throwing around buzzwords as soon as you get told why you are wrong isn't the same as talking about the game.
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>>167580590
Now that I'm in C rank I never encountered bahamut or seraph ever again
Only met them in Beginner and rarely D rank
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>>167580698
You'll encounter them more when you get higher. Keep teching them if you're playing a control deck.
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Is Arthurian Light any good?
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>>167580780
It can add up in Arena
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64509
Need a concede
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>>167580780
It adds up.
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>>167580780
Naah
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I managed to build 10.5k dust, which deck should I build?

Assume I have most meta decks
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B R I C K
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>>167580832
yeah, but isn't it shit if you topdeck it lategame? If Charlotte wasn't bundled I'd pick right for sure just for consistency.
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>>167580780
it's good enough in arena, better than fucking latham
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>>167580894
Cat Satan stream theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBx6mAWYPU
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>>167580930
I'd pick right anyway even if arturs light would be decent
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>>167580780
it's ok but go right
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>>167580419
>>167580464
Such is life as a C2 player
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>>167580893
writing down the decks you already have would help
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>>167580631
>Crying about the game being ''unfair'' and throwing around buzzwords as soon as you get told why you are wrong isn't the same as talking about the game.
The irony of this post is that instead of me getting told people resort to buzzwords like "go back to /hsg/" or "IF U HAET IT STOP PLAYING", like you are doing right now, after i actually point out the bullshit that is Daria centered meta and Tempo Rune deck itself.
Nice try, shill.
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>>167580980
you're replying to two different anons my dude
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>>167580628
please respon
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>>167581063
I know but I found the timing of their posts amusing
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Little loli about to get the biggest dick of her life
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Need a concede please. If you stay I will concede back.

87464
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>>167581041
Aggro Blood, OTK Forest, Aggro Sword, DShift Rune, Tempo Rune, Control Nep Necro

Yeah...I might as well be cancer I guess
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>>167581087
Probably same as bloody mary + Soul dealer.
If you take dmg it does dmg to your opponent how much it would have reduced on you.
If you get healed. probably nothing.
Cba to test it since getting BM to survive 1 turn is a feat of its own.
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>tribunal
>tribunal
>themis
>tribunal
>themis :^)
>themis :^)

Fucking cancer.
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>>167581151
It was a very big dick indeed.
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>>167581217
play around it.
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>>167581217
kys dariafag
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>>167581051
>after i actually point out the bullshit that is Daria centered meta and Tempo Rune deck itself.
Its only bullshit for retards. There are enough decks that counter her and can compete. No matter what card game you play there are always 1 or 2 decks that are slightly stronger or more played than the rest.

I like how you had to quote the whole post. Really shows where you are from and how long you have been here.
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>>167581243
Play around my followers instead of relying on a panic button

>>167581245
kys havenfag
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>>167580628
If you're above 10, they take damage instead of you
So it's a oneshot if you're both at 20
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>>167581242
>No Levi
I've never seen this before
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>>167581242
What a nice board you have. it would be bad if something happened to it.
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>>167581336
He bricked :^)
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Thanks Vania chan
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LOL
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>>167581181
Why were you trading. All you had to do was go for my face while I cut myself.
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>>167581242
Bricks literally 1000% of the time
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>>167581292
>and can compete
only true if you're not trying to be competitive, shitter
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>>167581242
Just themis it bro
.
^)
.
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>>167581292
>UMMM IT'S BALANCED BECAUSE ONE DECK HAS 51% WINRATE AGAINST IT
Just epic my dude, my dude. Clearly shows how fair and balanced this deck is.
>Really shows where you are from and how long you have been here.
I've been here for 9 years :^)
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>>167581506
You are the one crying about a deck being too strong. If anything, you are the shitter here.
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>>167581242
fun and balanced deck :^)))
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>>167581370
At 15hp and 6pp?
lmao @ your life
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*Rune is 1/3 of ladder and 50% of tournament representation*

Rune is fine, guys
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>>167581596
>s-stop crying about my OP deck being too strong and just let me win

How to spot a Dorothy player.
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>>167581554
The only time I sucked so much in an arena run that I got uneven gold I made sure to retire after 1 win again to round it back up. It also served as punishment to remind me to never play like a retarded faggot ever again.
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>>167581627
>not being lower thanks to dire bond and have a razory claw ready to push the last hp when you try to deny.
Kek.
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Urd doesn't trigger Fanfare effects? So what should I be using it for. Rush/Storm?
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>>167581683
Hey, it's fine because it bricks 300% of time and a couple of T3 decks have winrate slightly higher than 50% against it.
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>>167581767
Followers with last words.
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>>167581683
The perception of it is more of a problem than how it actually plays. People think it's better than it actually is, so everybody and their mom wants to use it.
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>>167580508
I like the list with 2 Pixie Mischief
Although I must admit, with all this agro I'm facing, I never get to OTK, just slowly stealing the board by leveraging all the 1-drops for tempo.
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>>167581691
Vampy player actually. Get good you ./hsg/ bby
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>>167581767
Rush/Storm and Last Word. Remove evolve of enemy follower. Just to heal up a creature after trade.
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>>167580419
literally everything works at C

i went from C to A with probably 10 losses total after i made an actual good deck
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>>167581683
>Rune is 1/3 of ladder and 50% of tournament representation
Rune in ladder includes D-Shit and Dirttune, though.
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>>167581596
I'm talking about the deck being strong because it's objectively true. If you weren;t a shitter you'd know that, but the only daria players you encounter are the mongoloids in D3 so you harbor delusions about how fair and balanced the deck is
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>>167581881
>>167581794
Thanks!!
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>>167580524

>Thinking two odin is enough
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>>167581812
That would explain ladder but not the insanely high representation it has in tournament. At least on ladder we know it's "only" 18-19%. In Tournament where rune is half the decks it's even more lopsided towards Daria.

It doesn't matter if Daria is balanced or not, when decks have this much representation in any other TCG they get heavily targeted for counter cards in the next expansion and failing that, they get nerfed/banned.
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>>167581757
>still dies from hand damage
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>>167581946
I never said that its not strong you shitter.
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>>167581812
If there was anything I realize, if I am up against a Seraph, Control Blood, Dirt Rune or Control Sword, it is likely hard to win because of their board clears, wards and heals

I suppose the problem is more that those decks in particular have a lower representation because they are generally more expensive, so Daria Rune is kind of allowed to rampage
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>>167581943
Judging from stats, Daria still makes up the vast majority of it
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>>167581757
if clearing the board was eonugh to win vs Daria itd be a balanced deck
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>>167581963
>still no Alberto edition
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Holy shit you people would never survive a day in fighting games if you're bitching this hard about decks for having positive win rates and a lot of representation. Don't like Daria, Roach, or Vampy? Play something that counters them. There's a ton of options.

Adapt before you cry for nerfs.
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>>167581943
Yeah, it's only 80% out of 33%, so it's not that much :^)
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>>167582074
Your original post is still wrong.
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>you cant demote to different letters
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>>167582140
That wasn't me though
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@167582125
you don't even deserve a (((you)))
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>>167582125
t. Dariashitter scared of nerfs
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>>167582125
<implying the people who whine about it every day are clever enough to build decent decks or play a single game without shittnig the bed
lmao
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>>167582140
>*Rune is 1/3 of ladder and 50% of tournament representation*
no it's not

rune IS 30% of the ladder
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>>167582125
>Muh fighting games
Go back to your general please
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>>167581989
>feel the sinner purger.
And if board is empty, evo an Panty raider since they give the heal even if there are no target.
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>>167582125
In what modern fighting game does one character make up 50% of a tournament?
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>>167582193
I play aggro blood. Daria isn't a problem if you're killing by turn 5 or 6.
>>
If ranked games were a bo3 with side decking between games, would daria have more or less wins?
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>>167582149
I still don't get this system. The longer the game runs for, the less Masters rank means. Eventually everyone with enough hours clocked it will reach masters.
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>>167582245
Yeah but you were trying to make it look as if Daria is 1/3 of the ladder which is not the case.
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I found it guys. This is THE worst pack ever opened with 7 bronzes and 0/8 even remotely usable cards. ignore the foil, its shit turning into vials anyway
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>>167582289
t. B2
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>>167582334
>Rune is 1/3 of the ladder
>Daria is 1/3 of the ladder
These mean different things, the former was used.
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>>167581828
>plays aggro
>says other people are hsg

pottery
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>>167582267
Street Fighter 5 had three Nash players in top 8 at EVO. Pretty much every marvel 3 tournament has Doom and/or Vergil on nearly every team. MKX had Tanya and Kung Lao running wild on everyone for months. People dealt with it.
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>>167582334
>you
stop assuming everyone is the original poster

all he said was that rune was 30% of the ladder, and 50% of tourney representation which is true
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>>167582372
>vialing animated cards
>>
I JUST WANT TO DO MY FUCKING DAILIES

fucking SHIT heavencraft and dragon sucks without memes
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>>167582461
>not replacing every daily that isn't blood or sword
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>>167582413
>P4A launch nightmares with everyone and their mom playing Mitsuru
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>>167582125
You're right though. Fighting games are shit.
They don't even have the occasional opponent brick or shit draws to get you a few wins here and there against your counter.
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>>167582413
Nash wasn't that good and top 8 isn't the entire tournament. Also they nerfed him anyway.
MK and KI aren't real games.
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If you use Urd on a card that has been enhanced, will it come back enhanced or default?
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>>167582289
*help them kill you by turn 5 or 6

fixed.
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>>167582546
>win 3 times as heavencraft
>replace it
>win 3 times as dragoncraft
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>>167582547
people played that?
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>>167582596

No, Urd restores something to its default form. So she can remove the buff Ancient Elf gets too.

Also, Necromancy counts as Fanfare, so they won't trigger again.
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>>167582547
I played Mitsuru. Shit was fun as fuck. Yu and Chie oki was so easy to run because everyone wanted to mash 2A on wakeup early on though.

Wound up switching to Yosuke once I found people online never blocked glide shenanigans. Ultimax fucking sucked for removing that.
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>>167582596
Default
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>>167582578
t. Capcuck
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I actually have fun playing the game right now
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>>167582651
just play neutralcraft senpai
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>>167582686
I played vanilla Labrys. Eventually had to switch to Akihiko because shit was impossible to play.
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>>167582551
>what are dropped combos
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>>167582578
For the first five or six months of the game everyone was playing Nash and everyone was calling him overpowered. But people adapted and figured out the matchup long before nerfs went out.
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>>167582732
compared to when?
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>>167582857
2 days ago when all I met was daria
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A deck can be cancer while being balanced. MTG had a period where a card called birthing pod whose archtype made up roughly 25% of tournament decks. The card was still banned despite the decks having good but not anywhere close to imbalanced winrates and the deck having counters. As long as that card existed, it would be a dominant deck and they could never ever print cards that synergized with it ever again.

When the game stops being fun, balance doesn't matter any more. Considering Daria embodies Modern MTG design of having a chance to just ignore playing the game and simply winning with the right draw and insta-losing with the wrong draw, we're approaching or already at the point where Daria would be up for having cards from it banned with it's super high representation.
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>>167582768
Labrys was wasted potential. She had to get and maintain red axe level just to be capable of what everyone else could do by default.
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>>167568626
Sword is dead.
t. /svg/
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>>167582919
>defending the pod ban AND crying for daria nerfs
what a loser
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I am scare bros. People keep saying this game slowly turned into HS. It's true?
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>>167582996
>implying the pod nerf wasn't completely justified
If you never wanted it to ever stop being one of the most popular decks in MTG sure.
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>>167583026
No, rng isn't nearly as big a factor and you can still very easily compete as a f2p player. Can't say that for HS.
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>>167583026
Not yet.
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>>167583026
Not yet, maybe next expansion when rune gets a 1/1 1pp follower that spellboosts for 2
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>Go first 5 times in a row in T2
>Finally lose the last game because I didn't draw well enough to make up for the missing evo point

God damn am I salty right now.
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>>167583026
we still have a long way to go son
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>>167583227
Always.
Win 4 first matches easily.
Last match I always brick like mad and the other player get such an insane curve that I cant do shit.
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>>167583227
>Draft deck that has ~20 cards that cost 3 or less
>Brick until turn 4 one game, end 4-1
Sometimes you're just not meant to get 5 wins. I wish it wasn't that way as much as it is.
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>>167583310
Yeah, but my deck wasn't particularly powerful this time. Just scraped by the first 4 rounds by curving out slightly better than the opponent. All the more galling to lose at the finish line.
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A concede onegai!

79306
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Shit
Getting lethal with Albert is just so easy
Is this really fair?
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>>167583171
Runecraft

0/1
Spellboost your hand for 1
Spellboost: Spellboost 1 more
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>>167568626
all these numbers are close to 50%, doesn't that mean the game is fairly balanced?
or am i just retarded?
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>losing to eidolon ptp
this is it for me
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>>167583498
IKUZO

I'm really loving swordcraft and Midorikawa as my wincon. This is great.
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>>167583498
6 Damage for 9 mana that can be stopped with ward in a world where combo decks have you already dead by that point is very fair. If you have an evolve point left on turn 9 as sword you deserve the 10 damage.

The thing that makes albert fucked up is how good he is turn 5, not turn 9.
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>>167583649
>The thing that makes albert fucked up is how good he is turn 5, not turn 9.

But everyone in the world has a dod ready for turn 5 or a big threat you have to dispose of by turn 5.
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>Casted every Price of Magic
>Every Petrify with earthrite
>Every calamitous curse
>Banished all my Mordecai
>Get to the point where I nep on an empty board and she only summons and kills 1 minion
>Still win
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New player/D1 shitter here. About to try take two for the first time. What should I build and how should I build it?
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>>167583540
The game is balanced in that there are no dominant decks and every class generally has at least one good deck. Balanced cards can still get themselves banned in other card games though.
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>>167583761
Sword and loli, mostly its clear cut what you need to get, just make sure to have A LOT of 2/3 drops.
If a choice is too hard for you post it here
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>>167583712
3/5 to clear something on board immediately without using an evo point will always be strong. Evolving him into a 5/7 is something that needs to be dealt with by removal like DoD or generally demands an evolve in return to deal with it after Albert has gotten value through trading/going face already. It's nearly impossible for albert to not get a 2 for 1.
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>>167583540
If I had to pick problems it would be Roach Forest being possibly too strong and Daria making up for 15% of the ladder by herself. Everything else seems actually alright if we're looking at usage/win ratios.
I hope they don't nerf Gobu because that's my favorite card this expansion
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>want to play ramp dragon
>all dshifts come out of hiding
is this game rigged
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>>167583942
They honestly need to leave forest alone and focus on nerfing rune to the ground.

Forest has already been nerfed twice, now its time for other cancer crafts like Rune to get shit on.
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>>167584016
Roach is not an ok card
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>>167583770
>The game is balanced in that there are no dominant decks

Daria is pretty much dominating the meta and making everything orbit around her though
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>>167584069
I agree
Give it rush instead of storm so it's fucking garbage
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>>167584086
Win rate wise she's "balanced", but I agree that she's dominating in representation and that's an issue.
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>>167584069
Roach itself is fine. It's the shit that generates 0 cost cards that's a problem.
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>>167584069
>Everything that beats my deck is cancer that needs to be nerfed
>Everything in my deck is completely okay and underpowered, cygames please buff my deck

Just stick some wards in your deck. Its incredibly annoying to play roach against a deck that is constantly warding up and you'll lose more than often against them.
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>>167584016
I just want a meta where Forest ins't locked into a single deck, even Sword has two good choices, I'd pick two good choices over a great one any time when playing a cardgame. Only nerfing Forest would just throw the craft into the mud.
>>167584069
Roach did nothing wrong.
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>>167584181
>>167584153
>Princess mage is a vanilla card
>Roach is a vanilla card
>Went through two expansions, now on a third without problems

Just learn how to counter specific decks instead of crying about your netdeck getting countered?
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>>167583810
I'm more familiar with sword so I'll try that. Thanks.
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>play Daria Rune thinking I can beat people at their own game
>Find that most of the Daria Runes dont know when to trade and try to go face until its plain obvious they lost because of my bigger board and smarter trading

I thought this was AA rank?
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>>167584224
>I just want a meta where Forest ins't locked into a single deck

Pretty much.
DE meta was probably the best for forest. Vanilla you were forced into purg which was easily the most boring deck in the entire game and you had to deal with the people constantly crying about it.
DE you had Tia and midrange which was actually pretty fun and satisfying.

ROB you're backed into a corner and have to rely/abuse roaches if you ever want to see wins and still have to deal with the people that cant stop crying about it.
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>>167582125
Go fuck yourself I shouldn't have to build a deck specifically to fuck over another. This meta would be far more balanced and fun if Roach and Daria would fuck off already.
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>went 5:0 in T2 all thanks to 2 Gabus

truely the best waifu
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>>167584430
If Daria and Roach were gone everyone would be bitching about Vampy, Albert, or Seraph. There will always be top tiers.
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>>167584430
Yeah, I should be able to play my deck for 1000 matches and everything that counters me deserves to be nerfed to the fucking ground!

Who cares about countering decks or proper deck building when you can just netdeck something and cry when it gets countered?
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>>167584501
Gabriel is a fucking cunt
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>>167584203
>>167584253
If you're ok with 3x roach being mandatory in every single forest deck for the rest of the game's lifespan, it's a fine card. Otherwise, maybe you should consider that a card that does literally everything from being removal, to instant burst damage, to being a body on board, to a secondary win condition to a main win condition is bad design.
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That's it, I'm gonna craft the roach deck.

Do I need Tia, btw?
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>>167584556
take it back or 1on1 me
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>>167584016
>t.forestshitter
tempo forest and purgatory forest were fucking more cancerous and more played then Dshift last expansion. And now you fuckers have gobu roach, go kill yourselves.
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>>167584285
Some tips, remember to choose good cards and put as many copies as possible (as in, you'd want 3 Unicas, 3 Veteran Lancers and 3 Gelts/Maids when looking for 2pp drops for a slower deck, instead of doing a spread with x1 Kunoichi, x2 Oathless, x1 gelt, x3 Lancer and x2 Unicas), make sure you don't fuck your curve up by putting too many high-end stuff in your deck and remember to have a clear plan for what you deck wants to accomplish (if it is an aggressive or more mid-rangey build, perhaps control, etc) and pick cards accordingly.
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>>167584556
She is the cutest cunt on both heaven and earth.
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>tfw they do not remove mushussu
the fools
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>>167584667
>>167584585
Just go hide in take2 if the idea of a craft having good cards triggers you.

There's a ton of great cards in every craft that are a must and every craft has their own bullshit. If roach makes you cry this hard then just stick some wards in your deck or tech something in to counter in.
You cant just pilot a single deck to masters and expect the whole way to be smooth sailing never encountering things that counter you.
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>>167584708
Thanks! I'm thinking aggro will be easiest to build but it depends on what comes up I guess.
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>>167584749
>>167584640
>Cutest
>Some cunt that is a huge bitch to everyone and wants to destroy humanity just so she doesnt have to work

Literally the shittiest girl this season. Umaru 2.0 in terms of shittyness.
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>>167584794
>You cant just pilot a single deck to masters and expect the whole way to be smooth sailing never encountering things that counter you.
oh, look, the shitter telling people to git gud and adapt is speaking exclusively about the pre-masters ladder, what a fucking surprise
fuck off and let people spitball balance ideas in peace
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>>167584845
>every girl needs to have a perfect personality

Shes 10x more fun than the average timid girl that wants everyone to get along
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>>167584957
>Crying about how other decks counter you
>Fucking shitter let me cry about how I suck at this game in peace

Hilariously sad
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>>167584603
no, 3 ancient elves are enough
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Long live the power lesbians
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>>167584794
>You cant just pilot a single deck to masters and expect the whole way to be smooth sailing never encountering things that counter you.
Yeah you're right I should have played around roach by remaining above 18 health otherwise it's my fault. Roach is balanced you've convinced me.
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>>167585001
Comparing an asshole to a boring shy girl wont make her stop being an asshole or shit.
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>>167584585
Not him but I will be honest with you, a craft having signature cards is not a bad thing.
I'm completely fine with Albert being used in every single Sword deck for the foreseeable future. It gives the class an identity if that makes sense. You can have very different decks using some of the same cards, Levi being a good example of that.
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>>167585045
Guuuuuurea~
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>>167570598
>The golden rule of CCGs is to always do the opposite of what a combofag wants if you want an even remotely balanced game.
Yeah yeah Hearthstone is SO fucking balanced right now. Oh wait, it's not.

It's the Aggro and Midrange faggot (aka the "I play on curve and win" crowd) that's cancer in any card game.
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>>167585048
Or you should have kept in mind that Forest's speciality is roaches and prepared accordingly for that?

You know, using that thing in your head they call a brain instead of just autopiloting your deck and throwing a whiny fit when the other player beats you.
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>>167585048
>by remaining above 18 health
>implying that's enough for roach's bullshit
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>>167585092
I just wish the signature must-have cards weren't all legendary.
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>>167568626
I keep climbing with Midrange Sword and I've telling you it's good but you never listened. I even still use Otomeme and she still does work. You can't autodrop her on turn 6 anymore but she's super useful to recover from boardclear and to make control-babbies cry when they waste their Bahamut on attacking a 1/2 for 3 turns straight
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>>167585229
Levi and roach are legendaries?
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>>167585048

I think shadowverse is too hard for you. Have you heard of a casual game called hearthstone? I think that's perfect for you
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>>167585001
Comparing annoying shit to plain shit doesn't change the fact they're both shit.
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>>167585229

>I just wish rare cards were worthless

?
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>>167585404
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>>167585252
Nice thing with bahamut in control blood is that you can use revelation to board clear while bahamut survives. to go face.
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>>167585229
There's a lot of golds and even free stuff like Dragon Warrior too, Sword and Forest are the crafts that gets fucked the most by that rule due to Albert and Ancient Elf being very expensive as a x3 package that you can use everywhere.
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>>167584794
There's a difference between good and mandatory on the level of roach. You can ignore that roach otk is the highest winrate deck on ladder at master rank and I'd still call it a retarded card. Going by your logic, a card would be fine if it popped up a menu when you played it and let you choose between
-Healing yourself
-Dealing face damage
-Remove a minion
-Summon a taunt
-Draw a card
Following your train of thought, this card would be fine as long as it had a balanced win rate and had counters. It doesn't matter if the card will have 100% play rate, it's balanced so it's ok.

>>167585092
I'm ok with there being signature cards, I could have mentioned Ancient elf which is super strong and can win games on its own but didn't because I think it's a fun card. Shadowverse came out less than a year ago. The card pool is still small and you're going to see a lot of the same cards for a while, fine. The problem is that a card as good as roach is still going to be 3x in every single forest deck if it stays the same years from now. A card shouldn't be allowed to be as insanely versatile and strong as roach is. No card game lets cards like that survive forever because people stop having fun when they run into the same stuff all the time, especially if it's a card like roach.
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>>167585161
>It's the Aggro and Midrange faggot
man, fuck you, don't compare honest aggro players to those whiny midrange cunts
>>
What's Control Sword actually supposed to be good against? It certainly isn't any good vs Daria when they go 2nd.
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>>167585486
Amazing mental gymnastics you got there, i'm honestly impressed how you went from that to this.

Seriously, the answer is in front of you. If your shitty netdeck is getting countered then use the few neurons you have left to build a deck that counters it or netdeck something that can counter it or beat it.
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>>167585434
Hes not worthless.
Hes top tier for memes. SD + Laura + lilims way for 8 face dmg while healing the dmg he did.
Skullfane on the other hand is not even good for memes.
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>>167585616
>>167585616
>>167585616

migrate
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>>167585619
>they add more amulets to support Eidolon
>Skullfam becomes meta instead
screencap this.
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>>167585161
At least combo exists in this game still.

In HS the only combos I played were Patron and Druid. Patron was really similar to roach but you needed way more time to get all the pieces. It's the most fun and hard deck in the history of HS but god forbid a player gets rewarded for playing well, so they nerfed it to oblivion.

Combo Druid was way more bullshit and less skill-intensive than patron, because if you had less than half HP by turn 9 and no taunts, you died. It sounds fair but babbies didn't like to lose to the same 2 cards over and over again so they made one of the cards completely useless.

Combo is treated like a bitch in HS. Miracle got destroyed once and Freeze Mage will never, ever get more support. More aggro and Reno cards because a conflip is better than RPS.
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>>167585613
i didn't say anything about losing to roach, try your shitposts on someone else.
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>>167585678
I wouldnt mind that. Its sad to see leggos being useless. Wish they would do something good with Beast dominator also.
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>>167585694
>Writes a wall of text crying about roach
>I didnt say anything about losing to it!

Seriously, suck it up and just counter it like everyone has been doing for the past expacs. Roach is only enjoying a high winrate because wards have pretty much disappeared from this meta so they're free to shit on people and remind them why wards are important.
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Need a concede

62334
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>>167576880
Only from deck. Always mulligan Patches away.
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>>167583721
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Post a good elana/seraph hybrid deck. I want to try being cancer for a while
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