/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

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PURGE FILTH

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I kinda feel bad for him.

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Someone was looking for the Old Hunter 'box art' a while back, happen to found pic related

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Is this actually supposed to be one of Orphan's moves, or is it a glitch? It's so fast it literally stun locks you, and he *can* hit you three times in a row with it (maybe more) and just kill you outright

Marry the Doll, purge filth, executioners r gay, Kos/Kosm, aaahhhh, etc etc

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Matt Ryan's wife looks like a Pthumerian.

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>All I want are Bolt and Arcane triangles
>Tempering, Adept, Fire, Fire, Fire, and the absolute gem of pic related
This is torture.

>>167524865
>Did I reply to the wrong person?
You replied to the right person, but I guess I'm not who you thought I was.

In the artbook, the Cainhurst Servants are called Cain's Servants. Who do you think Cain was?

I wanna fuck Queen Yarnham for platinum. Do I have to play through all chalices or can I focus on Pthumeru? At DC Pthumeru right now, taking a break from edgy McWatcher of old.

Also started a new hunter, this time str instead of skl and oh my god it so much easier. Got rid of cleric beast and died first at Gascoigne. Got him on my second try but overall everything feels much more fun.

>>167525676
Cain, the literal biblical Cain, was the son of Adam and Eve, who killed his brother Abel out of jealousy. He traveled to the land of Nod, east of Eden. As for referencing the Cainhursts themselves, possibly because they are killing their "brothers" (other hunters), or their sin. I doubt Cain in the BB context was a figure in Cainhurst castle, though

>>167525919
You will need bastards of loran for one and red jelly. You have to do all 8 story chalices to beat her.

>>167525919
You can essentially focus on just Pthumeru to get Yharnam, although you might have to run through one or two others once for materials. Check the OP for the chalice speedrun guide, there's a single image that shows you the path, what you'll need for each one and where to find them.

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>>167503537
>>167503087
How do you think they could pull off a sequel?
Have it set immediately after the events or in another area that slowly becomes affected by the curse of Yharnam?

I don't know if I'd like a prequel very much.

>>167525220
That's... actually pretty nice.

How bad is this build?

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/22104

>>167525676
> artbook

Now that you remind me, I remeber the artbook was uploaded here, but the definition was a little bad, did someone get a better one? if yes, please share.

>>167525351
I got a radial one of those too but I savescummed over it instead of keeping it because sharp gems are useless. Try farming the ithyll watchers for non-tempering gems; it will make you want to kill yourself. I was just looking for an adept gem - the second most common drop after temperings - and it took like 30 tries to get two (one thrust 32% w/ hp drain and one blunt 30%, which is what I was looking for)

Also, what's wrong with fire? I haven't had that much of an issue with finding any of the three types in Isz. Like one hour of farming and I had multiple arcane 27%'s, a bolt 27% and a fire 26%, and a couple ones with shit curses and 25%.

The difference between 25% and 27% is really pretty small anyway. I still destroy shit with a 25% fire watchers gem, a cold abyssal and a 23.1% fire gem in my axe

>>167526161
Thanks, I thought I was going to hate the hairstyle and drop it for my other hunters with the longish curly hair but ended up falling in love with the spunky tomboy look. It's now my default hair AND doesn't clip with so many tops, which means I could comfortably wear the foreign garb with no clipping.

>>167526152
>How do you think they could pull off a sequel?

They can't. They straight up can't. Bloodborne is a self-contained story and setting. Some anons and I were discussing this last thread, what I was saying amounted that it would thematically and conceptually just fuck over the entire first game. So many of the weird little details, timelines and figures in Bloodborne were left to interpretation on purpose, to make you really feel like an outsider, and to make a sequel, to make an ending canon, would undo so much of what they've done already.

The problem is, making anywhere else important, making anywhere else have eldritch bullshit or blood ministry undermines Yharnam's centrality and importance to the events of the story, so what's the point? It's fanfiction. I mean, what can you reveal that you haven't already? Bloodborne's big selling point was the hard left turn into cosmic horror, you can't do that twice.

Maybe I should stop trying to spam 1-800-BEYOND

>>167525220
>>167526460
Mind sharing the sliders?

>>167525919

Lower loran is not needed to get there, skip that and you'll save some ritual blood

why does chalice-starved beast spam the insta-kill bite? wtf happened

>HMLS with 820 AR
Is this true power?

>>167526412
>Also, what's wrong with fire?
I don't want/need any more. I was tentatively looking for two and now I have five.

>I still destroy shit with a 25% fire watchers gem, a cold abyssal and a 23.1% fire gem in my axe
10:1 you'd get more AR if you swapped the 23% for another Cold.

>>167526460
I hate the hairstyle 2bh, but the face looks pretty cute.

>>167526894
why does it matter, just circle around him and he can never hit you

>>167527146
because it's annoying

>>167527324
You're annoying.

>>167526943
>HMLS 902 AR
Don't let your dreams be dreams.

>>167527379
outstanding

>survive a fire doggo charge at point blank
>is this a dream?
>insta killed the next time
It was a dream.

>>167526850
Really? That's nice since I'd rather not fight abhorrent beast again for a while. He was a bitch in the last Loran chalice I went through.

>>167527590
Counterhit damage is a bitch sometimes.

>>167527397
I can't handle all that damage.

>>167527570
>I'll prove him right! That'll show him!
You are annoying. And bad if BSB is killing you.

>>167527570
>that filename

>>167527009
>10:1 you'd get more AR if you swapped the 23% for another Cold.
a little bit more, but for my saw spear or my saif, it only increases the AR by like 20. I've got like 5 cold abyssals and I'd rather just have 5 converted weapons that do like 4% less AR on the stats screen.

I'm not sure if the damage formula favors scaling gems over percent gems or vice versa when applying moveset multipliers, though (or neither). It seems like you get more bang for your buck with two percent gems and one cold abyssal, rather than two cold abyssals and one percent. Especially if the weapon has high base damage

>>167527715
i only just started, so no, i'm not very good, my neckbeard overlord

have you done anything productive today or just sat here shitposting

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>>167526712
Well it sounds like they're going to try to do it anyway.
If they do I bet it'll be some kind of
>Yharnam is ruins now, all life in the local area ascended with the hunter and left the place empty
>nearby city checks on it after there's been rumors from treasure hunters and the like of the dead city full of strange devices and impossible things
>The Dig begins
>turns out the hunter ascending fucked things up even harder and reality is starting to bend in the area
>even more time fuckery and geometry fuckery

I can't really see it remotely working any other way but then again Miyazaki has shown people don't know what they want until they have it.

>>167527912
you really got him there pot

>>167527643

That thing is on the first loran dungeon and you can't skip that. That's one nasty boss too, I never figured the timing to dodge it effecticely

>>167528002
i know i did

>>167527948
What's stupid is we don't, shouldn't and can't know what ascension actually means. Childhood's Beginning can have a lot of implications, one of them meaning we just become a surrogate child for a Great One. The Doll has been our 'mother' , or guardian, the whole game and it seems to become almost literal in that ending. Maybe it means something totally different, who knows. If there is a sequel, there should be absolutely no mention or reference to the Good Hunter in any way, shape or form, but even then that's a reference, which annoys me.

All that amounts to aliens = bad and stuff goes weird, which we already know. There's nothing new to bring to the table is the problem.

Esther

My dude

You should've just hit him

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So how do off-shapes work? I'm getting ready to go full korean on my bloodtinge build. I just farm the 31.5 circles and with enough luck they drop as 31.5 radials/triangles?

>>167528454
I missed.

And then got stunlocked because I didn't press circle

I got greedy

>>167527883
>I'm not sure if the damage formula favors scaling gems over percent gems or vice versa when applying moveset multipliers, though (or neither)
Definitely neither.
Although, %s are definitely better than Scaling for Viscerals.

>It seems like you get more bang for your buck with two percent gems and one cold abyssal, rather than two cold abyssals and one percent. Especially if the weapon has high base damage
I've run the numbers on several weapons (Saw Cleaver, Kirkhammer, Rakuyo, and Church Pick so far) and all of them get more AR from two Colds and a 27% than anything else except one Cold and two 27%s, but even then it only gives about 2-20 more AR.

You are right though; one 27% and one 24% isn't worse than two Colds by a lot, and you'll definitely get better viscerals.

>>167528518
Yes, and pray to Kos that they have the right primary effect, and a good curse.

>>167526712
>>167527948
what we actually need is a dlc instead of a sequel

>>167528518
Yes.
Pray to Oedon.

>>167524701
That's a nice picture, got more wallpapers?
>>167525187
Pretty sure that that's not a glitch. It probably punishes over agressive players.

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>>167526850
He still needs the 2x red jelly to make the great Pthumeru Ithyll chalice, and you can only get it either from Lower Loran chalice or Great Isz chalice (or from NG+ lecture hall).

So it's either lower loran or isz, but you have to do one to reach queen yharnam

>>167528574
>>167528634

Alright cool. Why couldn't the Bloodletter come with a circle slot on one of its versions?

>>167528558
I goofed up

Sorry for all the delays by the way, I'm a bit busy with something on the side.

>>167528969
It's fine, as long as you can at least run in and do some damage

>>167528805
You at fog?

>>167527912
>i only just started
Oh. Well then strafe clockwise.

>have you done anything productive today or just sat here shitposting
Hey man words can hurt you know?

>>167529130
yus

>>167528595
No, a prequel with all of our favorite characters but younger!!!

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>>167528595
I'd rather more, smaller things, more DLC, but I don't know exactly what you could expand on. I'd like a bigger Byrgenwerth to explore since it's so central to the story, I'd just like to see more of it. But maybe that really is all there was of it, you know?

>>167528641
>That's a nice picture, got more wallpapers?

Boy I got plenty

>>167527715
>tries to use perfect grammar
>starts a sentence with "And"
xaxaxaxaxaxa

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If anyone cares (I know you don't) I made some more phone papes. I'll drop them in case anyone wants them.

>>167529154
Ok cool

>>167529275
I would care, if I had a phone.

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>>167529275

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>>167529250
I've actually only got a few huehue

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>>167529187
>young maria
i'd be ok with this

>>167529272
>he thinks there's anything wrong in starting a sentence with a conjunction
You have to let go of those kindergarten superstitions.

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>>167529492

>>167529492
That's funny. Never noticed that the hunter is missing is right leg much like Gerhman. I see something new about this game every day

>>167529492
>>167529640
Why not post the artbook?

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tfw not sure if I want a sequel to BB or just another game with quick combat like BB

Gregor, I need to go somewhere so I'll be back later; maybe. Thanks for helping me m8

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>>167529640
and you have to let go of being a faggot who attempts to use perfect grammer

>>167530061
I'm not even the anon you were replying to, but you should at least attempt to know grammar before calling others out on it.

>>167529936
This whole debate about sequels is missing the simple point that worst thing about any of the sequels we've used to point our argument (DaS2 and DaS3) is that they completely gutted and restructured the base gameplay.

If you took BB's engine, changed nothing, but gave us an entirely new 1p and chalices, no one would complain, as long as the 1p plot wasn't like, completely off-the-wall. It would fundamentally be exactly what everyone else has said they'd be okay with; another DLC.

>>167529187
>exploring the chalice dungeons with laurance and the lads
>clearing the streets with ludwig
>chasing a beast from a far away land with the league
>kill vilebloods in the name of the healing church
>loran before the scourge
What else would be cool in a prequel?

I don't know why i hated this game so much.
It's so good.

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>>167530061

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>>167530246
but im not even trying to use perfect grammer, i could if i wanted to but its the internet. hes the one trying to use perfect grammar but fucks up
all you really need on the internet is an occaisional , and . and ' and you're good to go.

>>167530290
I'm not even afraid of ever getting BB2 simply because of the reasons you stated.

If they keep the core gameplay and speed with a new story that connects with the lore of BB everything will be fine. DaS was meant to be played slowly, raising you shield and rolling away from danger from time to time. DaS3 however took BB and took to next level. I pray to god that we get a sequel

>>167530474
You really couldn't. You can stop pretending you aren't a high school dropout.

>>167529145
you're right, i'm sorry.

thanks for the helpful tip, mang

>>167530606
whatever you say m8, thanks for the (you)'s :3 just dont be so pretencious in future
my (you)'s are worthless unfortunatly for you

>>167528641
>It probably punishes over agressive players.
that's not over-aggressive though; right after he misses his underhand is exactly when you are supposed to hit him (but not more than once or twice unless you can flinch him)

>>167530416
I had the same exact realization.

I was so salty after finally playing it. I didn't like Forbidden Woods, I didn't like the way the story progresses after killing BSB (and I still don't, but I can't hold it against the game), I didn't like how converting completely removed weapons' phys damage, and I hated Chalice dungeons.

Opinion's completely 180'd. The worst thing about BB is that there isn't more of it.

>>167530726
I'm sorry too man. I'm just butthurt that Watchers won't give me good gems, and that you posted a picture of a dude's gross belly. It was wrong of me and the other anon to just attack you, without considering that you could be new. That's not what /bbg/'s about.

>>167530474
I was just calling you out on your kindergarten belief that you can't use conjunctions to start a sentence, but alright. Perfect grammar on the internet isn't pretentious, and don't act like it takes any more effort than writing without.

>>167529915
What I have is very, very incomplete. Never found the full, proper thing, only saved what was posted here.

>>167530338
No. That's way too much exposition. It wouldn't even feel like a From soft game

>>167530767
Thinking about it 'over agressive' is a dumb way of saying it. More like anything risky or any slow attack (which most likely does more dmg, just like the jump attack in the webm) gets easily punished. Maybe he triggered the multihit by beeing to close and right in front of Ook. Not entirely sure though.

>>167530290
I disagree. It's not just the gameplay people are afraid would change, I know I haven't even thought about it, what we've been discussing is the story. There's no potential storyline possible that won't seem like stupid fanfiction. Everything went just far enough in Bloodborne that to go further would start to mess it up. It can look like Bloodborne, feel like Bloodborne, but it wouldn't be Bloodborne. What you're describing is some kind of perfect sequel which we know won't happen.

>>167530568
>DaS3 however took BB and took to next level.
huh?

>>167530759
Here, have another one. You can stop now.

>>167531517
Took BB speed and took it to the next level. Sorry I'm pretty tired

>>167531429
>There's no potential storyline possible that won't seem like stupid fanfiction.
But at one point is that okay? I mean it's a video game, man. And I want more Bloodborne.

>>167531567
Look at DaS2 and 3. They feel and look like Dark Souls but none is as good

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We can't leave our boy behind before the sweet Machine of Memes returns to anonymity

>>167530986
https://mega.nz/#F!t4USzaIJ!yzsCbDIJ1MuYkRa083YKHA

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>>167531781

>>167530474
Here's some food for thought, m80.

>>167531759
>They feel and look like Dark Souls but none is as good
No they fucking don't. My whole point was that no one would have given a shit about their lore if they didn't play like shit, or at the very least, completely separate from their predecessor.

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shitposting aside, i honestly love this one. especially the anon who actually drew it

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"The password..."
Fear the Old Memes

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>>167531567
I think what you want is essentially an Bloodborne Arcade Mode. And you know what? I kinda would, too. Be able to fight through randomized environments with randomized enemies or bosses. Kind of like those Diablo 3 Nephelim challenges. Just revamp chalices entirely, even, add more possible enemies and change up the looks and locations found within.

But an actual, legitimate sequel? No, the story, setting and gameplay all co-exist in Souls and Bloodborne, one is as important as the other, they provide context for each other. Lacking in one makes another feel more shallow.

>>167531567
What about another story that is equally as vague and minimalist as the one in Bloodborne? It hardly needs to reference the first game at all except through item descriptions, place names and the Great Ones.

I honestly don't think it would be that hard for them to make another good bloodborne game. It's the combat I enjoy the most anyway; the story is just cool because it is so mysterious and dark. Really the visual aesthetic / theme, art style, and animation style of the game is more important to me than the story.

slSo with low arc how do I get the most out of the steak dinner's charge attack, with flat fire or charge up?

>>167531926
Fuck me, is that digital one that was released last year?

>>167532616
I think you can also buy it via amazon.jp

>>167532592
>you must wait longer before deleting this post
thanks j-moot

>>167532582
Yeah, but what's the story gonna be? What can they do they haven't already? We know the whole deal behind the blood and the fact it's all aliens, you can't do that again. They kind of already covered the entire base of Yharnam, the most important location with all the important stuff.

>>167530861
I liked the slow combat and shields from Dark Souls a lot and was kind of mad when BB wasn't like that.
I gave up and returned it when i got bored with Shadows of Yharnam and endlessly complained about it and compared it to DS at every opportunity.
After picking it back up after playing DS3 and not liking the BB influence, i found that i could appreciate BB a lot more as a separate series.
Now i would put BB as just under DS or even equal to it, but i still don't like DS3.

I still would prefer more weapons to the trick weapon stuff, because i normally only use one mode.
I do love and use both of certain trick weapons like the Beast Cutter and Saw Spear though, but stuff like the Hunters Axe and LHB i almost use exclusively in two-handed form.

>>167532854
>Now i would put BB as just under DS or even equal to it, but i still don't like DS3.
Yeah, same here.

It's the new hip meme to say that DaS3 is bad because it "plays too much like BB", but, really, everything everyone complains about are actually things that were present in DaS2.

>BB2 will be a switch exclusive

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what is this lil' puppy doing here

>burial blade at the end of the game
>burial blade
>bb
>bloodborne
>bb
coincidence? i think not

Niohcucks BTFO again lads

>>167533440
boss mob

>>167533486
how so?

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Post your favorite BB wallpapers please. I've been using this for a few years, recently got into BB.

how long do you think itll take most people to return to bloodborne from nioh?

>>167533142
I don't like it using the BB engine.
Everything looks wet and grey, which is not how DS looked.
I liked that theme in Bloodborne, but i didn't want it for DS.

Many people kind of just forget DS2 and write it off as not really Dark Souls, so they blame a lot of the influence from that game on BB.
Although i do think there is too much BB in it and it kind of brings the whole game down, but that is purely because it isn't like the first game, which is also why DS2 is considered bad.

>>167533861
take the game wars bullshit to /v/

I have almost 1000hours in bloodborne
I've never played it online
Heh

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>>167533793
This one that I just made :)

>>167533998
>calling that a /v/ style game war
how?
i didnt call anyone a faggot or anything and it wasnt even really shitposting

>>167533998
how about you take this confrontational and incendiary shitposting to /v/ you stupid faggot

>>167533582
Game got revealed to be dogshit, their general already died and they're in full damage control on /v/

What garb set is the comfiest?

>>167533998
t. niohcuck :^)

>>167534435
>i put it to page one telling them to go back to bloodborne
did i do a bad?

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These fucking Isz Watchers have got me platinum mad.

I just want a couple Arcane and Bolt triangles, lads.

That's all I want.

>>167534434
I'm with that anon; I don't give a shit about Nioh and don't want to hear about it.

>>167534435
And no one with any sense is surprised.

>>167534503
Foreigner mang.

>>167534434
how about you fucking wheel yourself you blasphemous faggot

>>167532806
>We know the whole deal behind the blood and the fact it's all aliens
We hardly know anything about the old blood or the great ones, or what happened to the fishing hamlet / Orphan. It's all very mysterious.

Most of the lore people cite for bloodborne is just fanfiction and speculation. The game itself only gives you hints about the story, and mostly just through item descriptions

>>167534435
>>167534618
but it has an 87 critic score on metacritic though :)))))))))))))))))

>>167534661
I didn't even like the demo, but you're a double nigger

>>167534832
what has liking the demo got to do with pointless game wars in muh bb thread, fuck off

>the absolute STATE of Niohfags

i havnt played nioh, what makes it so bad? are there any redeeming features?

>>167532854
>I still would prefer more weapons to the trick weapon stuff, because i normally only use one mode.
What? Why would you limit yourself to one mode? Even on weapons like the axe where noobs think the 2H version is the only way to use it, the 1H mode is extremely useful. And the transition attacks are like amazing and fast critical hits that give you extra rally.

...Not that there arent a handful of weapons where one of the modes is hugely superior to the other

>>167535019
Nothing. Problem is just that BB is out since almost 2 years and we have nothing left to discuss and have to keep the general alive with shitposting.

>>167535019
apparently some e-celeb started streaming nioh last night and threads are getting flooded with shitposting about it. there was also a dedicated shitposter spamming nioh webms in souls/BB threads for months on /v/ trying to spark a war between the fanbases. it's just dumb shitposting.

rosmarinus vs flamesprayer?

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>>167535296
>shitposting
These memes are of utmost quality, nowhere near as bad as /dsg/. They still have tendencies to argue with Lucy, more than we do
>>167535343
I would say Flamesprayer, it's more accessible and more enemies are weaker to fire than flat Arc

>>167535343
flamesprayer for beasts and kin. rosmarinus for humans

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>chug lead elixir like a madman
>people keep running into bloodletter L2

>>167532854
>I still would prefer more weapons to the trick weapon stuff, because i normally only use one mode.
This is trolling. Nobody prefers multiple classes of useless weapons with one objectively best version over trick weapons.

>>167535456
because after like 2 years people finally (literally online like in the past month) started not responding to him much so now he just lives in /dsg/ because they still get triggered by him and reply

>it's a "the other guy is spamming evade so much you just stop moving and he eventually evades right in front of you" episode

>>167535019
It was advertised, pretty aggressively, as weeaboo Dark Souls. That set it up for high expectations from a playerbase that for the most part isn't going to receive the game well, based on the demo reviews.

Basically, it plays like a superlite DMC game (a basic combo is square, square, square, square; an advanced combo is square, square, square, square; R2), but it handles more like a Witcher game, and the character building is ripped straight out of TW3 (you have sword skills, magic skills, and misc skills).

Where the similiarity beghins and ends with Souls are the gestures, and the Ki management. Think Dark Souls, but you can "active reload", if you've ever played Gears of War, your stamina.

It appeals more towards people who like to micromanage (like ring-swappers in Souls games), but most people, especially baited average Soulsfags, are going to find it obtuse and/or just annoying, and that is where the majority of the backlash is going to come from.

Beyond all that there's zero character customization and you play as an Irish totally-not-Geralt whose ""based on a historical figure"".

>are there any redeeming features?
I found the loot system and item-model customization to be endearing, but enough to warrant a purchase.

t. Guy Who Played the Last Chance Beta

>>167534701
And that's the point. What I mean is, we know thw deal behind it is aliens. We go in expecting Van Helsing werewolf hunters and then we hit Byrgenwerth and all of a sudden shit gets real weird and alien monsters appear on buildings and all this talk of Great Ones and the cosmos explodes

You can't recreate that, unfortunately. The details aren't important, they're the mystery, and it's so much richer having all that weirdness go unexplored, you know? It makes you really take on that role of outsider.

The only thing I can see in a DLC or possible sequel would be exploring the actions of some new individual who doesn't really have much of an impact, some person from Church or Byrgenwerth history and their story and related things are just cool, but don't interfere with what we saw in Bloodborne. Maybe even look into some of that Caryll stuff, (s)he doesn't get much mention despite the rune being everywhere and integral to our gameplay experience. Maybe do some more with those.

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>>167534618
>I just want a couple Arcane and Bolt triangles, lads.

i know this pain

>>167536032
>but enough to warrant a purchase.
Not* enough.

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>>167535923
That's what we call progress. All those reminders are paying off.
Regardless, memes are what keeps the machine that is this general well-oiled. And we really don't have anything better to do.
>>167535996
My favorite episode

Just bought Dark Souls 3 yesterday. I dunno, I just can't get into it. After playing Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3 feels sort of cheap and somehow cartoonish. Feels so strange.

I'm going to do a Beast Claw build. I've always admired them but never could fit them into any of my builds. I'll be using Beast's Embrace and Beast Roar to emulate a beast; it sounds extremely fun.

If I could just have your advice and thoughts on a Beast Claw build, please? I don't really want to go above 100.

>>167535148
Because i prefer larger, slower weapons. Even in a game like BB.
1H versions are usually extremely useful, but that is not how i like to play, so i end up using half the moveset.
Some people fluidly use both modes and transition attacks to the fullest, but i am not one of those people.

>>167535909
I do.
As long as each weapon has a slightly different moveset or gimmick that is.
I enjoy making builds for objectively inferior weapons to see how effective i can make it.
I just end up wasting half the moveset of a trick weapon though, so i would prefer they were different and there was more weapons.

>>167536632
Military Veteran: 45/15/50/25/7/6
This also doubles as the traditional 98 Str build. For full Beast Claw enjoyment, include Beast's Embrace. If you're worried about 15 End, that's why we have runes
>>167536734
I'm hoping Falcons, just because they aren't the Patriots

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>>167533793
Made this a few weeks ago.

>>167536736
Oh okay, you're a hipster who can't adapt then, just like my friend.

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I feel like we should recolor this to the cauliflower of the Milkweed rune. Could someone lend a hand?

I prefer tripfag B over tripfag A because at least B doesn't pretend to be good at videogames when in reality he's a dumb faggot
still, don't reply. on principle.

>>167537206
He actually tells people who reply to him to not reply to him. He has his head on straight, it's just that he's a tripfag

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>finally get Rakuyo
>looks pretty rad
>realize itd be a total fucking waste for my ARC build

>>167536810
:D

>>167536847
Thank you very much for the quick and easy build and explanation! I'm happy with the level and my stat points are usually too precious to spend much on End, if any at all. Runes are more than enough.

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>>167537324
I don't really understand
Does anyone have any more of these? My favorite corruption of spurdo

Will a straight arcane build work for the HMLGS? Never used it before.

Also, could I possibly get some webm's of it?

>>167537501
If you're going for the Beast Claw, you'll probably want a weapon with a longer reach for keeping enemies at bay. Pick whichever one would work best for you, something that can carry you to getting the Beast Claw
>>167537632
Plenty more if you look upward in the thread

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and now, as quickly as i appeared, i disappear into anonymity.
may the good memes guide you my friendos :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>167537501
You can get to the beast claw at around lvl 30-50 if you get the tonsil stone and start running through chalice dungeons.

Ahh, sweet Machine of Memes, returned to the ocean...
A bottomless thread, with bottomless shitposts
Despite our hatred, we love them the most

>>167537973
>you can not delete posts this often
seriously why is this a fucking thing

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>>167537736
No, I mean shit specifically like this. Not just spurdo versions of characters.

To people who, for some reason, don't like the idea of trick weapons, look at it like this:

They aren't different forms, they're different weapons. You're essentially carrying two weapons at once and able to switch to your preferred weapon whenever. As a bonus, this functionally allows you to carry four weapons at any time.

>>167538115
This specific kind, no idea. This is the only one I've seen besides the Micolash edit

>>167537656
Yes. The beams are personally my favorite part of the weapon. It's the best damage per bullet in the game. I recommend a standard 25/25/50 for HMLS and the ability to use any weapon in the game that isn't BT (which doesn't matter because those can't be converted anyway)

I think 99 arc for hunter tools is just a gimmick, you still get respectable damage out of your more important hunter tools and can still hit like a truck from a distance thanks to HMLS.

>>167538115
>LISA

My nigga

>>167538091
That doesn't even rhyme.

>>167537387
>realize itd be a total fucking waste for my ARC build
How so? Just slap bolt/arc gems on it.

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>>167537656
>Will a straight arcane build work for the HMLGS? Never used it before.
Yes, but, it will be really weak in the R1s.

>Also, could I possibly get some webm's of it?

>>167538292
It's as near of a rhyme as I could get with the theme of the board. Did you expect to find dedicated poets around here?

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What the fuck is wrong with Oedon?

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>>167538275
:^)
Have you played the pointless yet? I haven't.

why dont people call that meme machine guy a cuck/faggot/failed abortion etc. like they do with luci?

>>167538484

I hear its TOTAL fucking garbage unless you are doing a 50 SKL build

>>167538546
Then why post something when it's bad?

>>167536632
Cruel Fate 40+/base END+/50/25/5/15 for Beast Roar.
What >>167536847 said for no Beast Roar.

>>167538653
Because he deletes his posts unlike Luci.

>>167538663
It's not different from the other non-split damage weapons.

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>>167538653
he just loves memes, anon
he's also not a furry who pretends to be good at video games

>>167538553
He's like Zeus in Greek mythology, sticking his formless dick in everything. It's easy to get around when you're without form
>>167538653
Because Meme Machine just posts memes and doesn't scream about how he's better than everyone here. Also, Lucy hates the guy, and the enemy of our enemy is our friend, even if he's a tripfag
>>167538723
I felt an obligation, a last sendoff to the bearer of memes. Couldn't you ask the same question about most of the content we post?

>>167538751
The Beast's Embrace rune allows for a type of Beast Roar, though

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>savescumming
>accidentally copy my save from usb to system instead of system to usb a couple hours later when I go to farm another gem from a different boss
going to die

Yo duders,

if you're a PES god or good at 3d modelling and want to work on the /bbg/ vgl team contact me at [email protected].

>>167538653
Because he's more than one person.

>>167538663
It loses about 90 AR and obviously can't benefit from BBP damage ramping. However, it's still more than formidable.

Rakuyo, 50Skl, 3x 27.2%
164+(164*1.0*.85)*2.058075648 = 624

Rakuyo, 50Arc, 2x Cold Abyssal, 1x 27.2%
164+(164*[.55+.65+.65]*.85)*1.272 = 536

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>>167539361
Everyone was cheering against us last year

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>>167539487
But only because they don't have the money to buy a PS4 and are jelly.

>>167539365
I appreciate the guy who also uses the tag (he got the password thing when i posted it in a thread for like 20 seconds) doesnt spam under it or spread the password. he also deleted his post earlier aswell which was pretty cool too.

>>167539602
hello friend I saw on /v/ a year or so back a guy who had a folder full of bloodborne's cover art with anime grils instead of the hunter. you wouldn't happen to have that, would you?
many thanks

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>>167540028
No. You can have this though.

>3 trip fags
>1 is severly autistic, 1 is a dead great one and 1 is a machine of memes
>and we're still better than /dsg/

>>167540279
>1 is a machine of memes
He is everyone, and no one.

>>167540279
Well, we share the first with /dsg/, and the reminders have worked well enough that he's there more than here. Given the quality of the other two, I would say we're decently off, in terms of tripfags
>>167540467
We are all memes, one in the great Machine

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>>167540279
>>167540539
Just remember, no matter how bad it gets, we will NEVER be /ksg/.

>>167540279
Hey come on, I only post with Trip when it is vgl related or when I forget to remove it

>>167540279
The only problem is when people talk about them

>>167540658
>/ksg/
I don't think we could ever get that bad. How many tripfags do they have running around? Or is it the attitude and manner of the posters in general

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>>167540539
>tfw it was a tripfag posting without his trip posting reminders not to reply to tripfags after another tripfags posts and it stopped people replying to that tripfag
/bbg/ is a weird place

>>167540870
He sank the ship he was working on to kill the captain, and floated to safety on a lifeboat. Where does reality begin and end on this board?

>>167540658
whats ksg?

>>167538636
While I'm typically loathe to go off topic in thread, LISA is my shit so I'll make an exception. No, I haven't played The Pointless, but I've seen bits and pieces. It doesn't seem to have the same kind of charm as Painful, and it has a notable lack of that classic soul-crushing despair. But the characters are neat, and the setting is nice, so it's not all bad.

Though I suppose I might have been spoiled by the end sequence in Joyful as far as horrible awful misery goes. Dad misses you fucked my shit up so hard.

>>167541028
This goes against our nature, but do not gain insight, remain a beastly idiot
It's the general for Katawa Shoujo

>>167537656

It's really weak on my 99 ARC build. Awesome R2s for sure, but that gets boring quickly.

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>>167539151
>>167532592
>>167532395
>>167531741
>>167531256
>>167531101
Nice to see people using my oc

>>167541336
>changing it to a split damage weapon instead of just keeping it as pure magic damage weapon
why do you do this to me from

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>>167541102
I just wanted an excuse to post the last one

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>>167541586
That's fair

>>167541503
>3 of the posts are deleted
i think you got memed by the meme machine

>>167541503
I enjoy them

Anyone wants some help?

>>167543818
yeah can you tell the watchers to stop dropping temperings

In coop, does the boss's remaining health go up by 50% if a new cooperator joins after the boss fight has already begun? I know it's usually +50% HP per summon if you all enter at once?

Does it have any effect on standard enemy health?

>>167543974
But I want temperings.

Can the tricked Ludwig's Holy Blade do more damage at 50 STR / 25 SKL than the tricked Holy Moonlight Sword would at 50 ARC / 25 STR? What about if both had 50 / 50 in their respective stats? Both weapons having optimal gems, of course.

I'd hope the HMS would do the most damage considering you spend a bullet each time you R2, but some of LHB's moves can do ridiculous damage and have as much poise-break as the fist of gratia

>>167544169
I think only bosses, and if the host enters before the player is summoned then the boss doesn't have the health bonus. Though depending on the timing your cooperator will be locked outside as well.

>>167539457
90 AR and can't be buffed by papers and BBP makes it pretty garbo.

>>167545021
In terms of R1 the LHB will do considerably more damage than the holy moonlight, since the arcane damage will be scaled by 0.7 even tricked and the physical for the HMLS is also quality, but you have just one of them and only at the first softcap. Same thing with 50/50.

Not to mention nourishing gems have worse percentage than tempering ones.

What would you want from DLC?

>>167545026
>Though depending on the timing your cooperator will be locked outside as well.

Never heard of this happening before. Once I was summoned inside the living failures boss arena with the boss standing next to me while the host was on the other side of the fog gate. He just came through and the fight started (with no music)

>>167545741
I stayed locked outside a couple of times, and watched someone summoned later also get stuck. You do get your rewards if you just wait outside though. All of those in chalice dungeons.

When you get to the door it's closed and it says 'only the host can open this door" even though you can see the boss bar.

>>167545728
Armor
Weapons
Floors
easy black and red materials

>>167545728
muslim refugees

>>167545694
what about R2s though? The HMS has never been good at R1s, but its R2s are really powerful because of the split beam + blade damage.

Can the LHB match the damage of the HMS with a jumping R2 for example? Where both the sword and the beam connect?

>>167545728
Expanded Byrgenwerth just to make it a longer area

Much more distinct and unique looks for each chalice type.
>Pthumeru as it is
>Loran all monolithic and hewn from rock and earth, but badly eroded, covered in sand way moreso than it is, with metallic support structures around in places
>Hintertombs like a shoddy recreation of Pthumeru
>Isz half Pthumeru, half Nightmare styles with organic rock and stone faces everywhere, arcane haze in the air, more alien appearance

Is anyone else farming rkpipbdn, or any Isz Watchers? I need someone else's good luck or something.

I've been working these fucks off and on for 9 hours now and I've only gotten three usable Fire and Arc gems (two Fire and one Arc). Ideally I'd need at least one Bolt and two more Arcs.

>>167546464
I would want an expansion of the dungeons, maybe the rest of Loran. There's an entire Yharnam-sized city above the Loran Labyrinth, probably chock-full of old hunter tools, weapons, and beasts, and we can't even reach it. I'd also love to see Isz, the rest of the home of the cosmic kin. Imagine all the Church gear left behind in there

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>>167546464
>Expanded Byrgenwerth just to make it a longer area
Was about to post this
>was a massive college and institution for discovery and study
>something caused it to separate into alternate dimensions
>adds a courtyard area accessible through the Byrgenwerth gardens after defeating Rom
>accessing the DLC requires you to reconnect the college together
>once it's all connected you can explore the buildings
>their geometry gets more mindfucky the further you in you get, such as endless corridors and turns that loop back on themselves
>tons of insight fuckery
>True Master Willem boss
>secret Byrgenwerth workshop weapons
>hidden Asylum where they experimented on crazies turned mad by something, leads a nightmare plane which is host to an old great one considered insane even by great one standards
>infinite library of Byrgenworth; like a chalice dungeon with Cainhurst aesthetics, never ending floors and a School of Mensis related boss

>>167546371
Well, a rough figure I just made gives LHB around 891 with perfect tempering gems, and the HMLS 792 (344+448) at one bullet cost with perfect nourishing gems for the tricked leap attack.

>>167547268
>>True Master Willem boss
I'd settle for an NPC who doesn't make vague gestures and noises
>>infinite library of Byrgenworth; like a chalice dungeon with Cainhurst aesthetics, never ending floors and a School of Mensis related boss
Holy Kos, I'd love this, a Byrgenwerth/Mensis-style chalice dungeon where the walls are bookshelves instead of stone. We'd also have abominations wandering around, scholars as NPC hunters, creatures half Brainsucker-half human.
Actually, they just should have tried more original designes on the dungeons in general, all that really happened was a few enemies unique to each dungeon and recoloring. >>167546464 had really good ideas for giving each dungeon a more specialized appearance

why are all the character models so tall and lanky compared to dark souls

Does anyone want to help with a NG+5 Hunter's Nightmare?

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>>167547641
Art style.

>>167547641
It's the game's aesthetic. Undernourished 18/19th sick person.

>>167548783
Yo

Set a pass and I'll get ringing. Where are we starting?

>>167545728
Bigger Byrgenwerth like others have been saying, and complete whatever the hell the Cainhurst stuff was supposed to be because it's clearly unfinished as fuck and at one point was going to be a major part of the plot, judging from the original description of the Workshop cord, the Vileblood rune description/complete lack of a point in the covenant, and that Vileblood Weapons are a category in the storage chest.

>>167548884
right at the lamp
pass is bbg
I only have 1 insight atm so I'll need to grind some afterward

>>167548931
>complete whatever the hell the Cainhurst stuff was supposed to be because it's clearly unfinished as fuck
What the fuck are you talking about

>>167547641
I think it's something the blood causes. Because the Pthumarians have it, the people half turned into beasts have fucked up arm lengths, and the Research Patients are taller and lankier the more powerful the enemy is.

>>167548931
>at one point was going to be a major part of the plot
Not really, Vilebloods are extinct and irrelevant in the plot of the game.
>Workshop cord
Says nothing about Vilebloods.
>the Vileblood rune description
What's wrong with it?
>complete lack of a point in the covenant
You get insight and rank, like most of the covenants.
>Vileblood Weapons are a category in the storage chest
That's where Reiterpallasch, Evelyn, Rakuyo and Chikage go.

okay guys i just finished the game for the first time, now im building a new character.

so i really dont know about builds or why people do them

why do people stop leveling? is it something to do with out PvP filters players?

i want to play with the rakuyo and church cannon, but maybe not because thats what i used in my first playthrough. i missed the kos parasite so there will definitely be arcane in my build + i was thinking skill?

arcane skill build?

i have no idea what im doing over here someone please help

Is Kos Parasite really THAT good in PvP? Welp, time to grind insight

>>167548975
>Invaded immediately

I got a little greedy there, my bad. And I can only assume he was way higher level than me. Ringing my small res again.

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>>167549136
It's just artstyle, great ones and ghosts also look like that.

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Bigger Byrgenwerth is right under the hatch and we'll never get to open it ;_;

There's probably a fifth umbilical cord down there. Maybe Micolash and it's like the dog ending to Silent Hill 2.

>>167549434
give me a sec, I'm out of insight

>>167549373
>why do people stop leveling? is it something to do with out PvP filters players?
Yes, people here decreed the meta as 98-117, staying at 98 to dodge people from reddit with BL 150 builds. If you aren't going into public PvP, you can level to wherever you want.
>arcane skill build?
Maybe, if you use a Bolt Saif or Church Pick. Threaded Cane also works decently. For most Arc builds, level Str and Skl to the absolute minimum and dump the rest into Arc

>>167549424
Kos Parasite isn't super good, it just has a few gimmicks going for it that make it super annoying, especially when there are other enemies to back it up. The dash attacks on it are ridiculous with just how fucking far they reach, and the L2 has deceptively long range on top of its armor and killing power.

Really I should have just switched to the Saif or something, probably would have done better than Moonlight Sword.

>>167549541
If you want, I could summon you as a Vileblood somewhere else, provided you have Corruption. Let you kill me, get two insight for free.

>>167549659
I'm down for that, where do you want to summon me? I have up to Forbidden Woods on this character

>>167549593
wait how does staying at level 98 help me dodge high level players?

>>167549757
Have you done chalice dungeons? I made the mistake of killing Cleric Beast this run of this character, and the only place I have left that can summon is Middle Loft.

>>167549803
It lets you avoid invading level 150 shitters

>>167549829
why is killing cleric beast a mistake?

>>167549829
Yes, I do. I'll head to the short ritual chalice w/ corruption rune.

>>167549803
There's a specific level cutoff with invasions, 98 being one of the last, if not the last level to remain at to dodge people at 150 or more. It also applies to co-op, but that has a much larger summon range. But as before, if you don't intend to do public PvP, you can level past 98, provided you're under 117

>>167549905
Because I'm on NG+4 or 5 on this character and Cleric Beast is optional. Lets you be invaded or summon in Central Yharnam if he's still alive.

>>167549935
Alrighty, I'll be beckoning shortly.

>>167549039
>>167549296
In the original release of the game, immediately patched out:
Third Chord from the Workshop said
>"One of the heirlooms used to contact the Great Ones, originating in the child of the Vilebloods. Long ago, in an encounter with the Great Ones, a contract was established, establishing the hunters and the hunters dream. Keep one to fend off foul spirits, or use it to obtain great Insight".
My mistake, I meant the Cainhurst Badge:
>The hunter who joins them is faced with a decision: to merely borrow their strength, or to become one of them, heart and soul."
Literally nothing happens from joining them. You don't gain any strength, and you don't lose anything from joining them. Why is there a decision to be made?
The Vilebloods are made out to be this big ancient half-forgotten threat, but it turns out there's just a queen who is "prisoner to this wretched mask", which is never brought up again. She claims there are no other Vilebloods, but the Bloody Crow of Cainhurst certainly seems to be one both by his name and the rune he drops. You get absolutely nothing for giving her blooddregs, there's a hard to get and very well hidden ring you can get to propose marriage, which again, does nothing, and you can revive her from the dead, something you can't do with any other important NPC in the game, but that doesn't ever really amount to anything or get mentioned by anything.
But why on earth did that warrant its own slot in storage? Why organize the weapons into three groups for right and left hands, and make the Vilebloods one of them when at release, it held two swords and one pistol?
You can't honestly tell me that Cainhurst didn't get a ton of content cut from it and was left as just sort of a half finished idea because the environment and weapons were neat, and the boss was cool.

>>167549803
so to avoid PvP shitters, i stay at level 97 or 98? which level do i NOT level to?

>>167549829
>>167549935
I forgot, I do the Co-op, Not adversarial if I'm trying to do the covenant stuff, right?

>>167550162
Correct. Alternatively just go to one of your normal altars and use the dungeon search to go to depth one Pthumeru and start ringing your small res.

>>167550090
PvP is completely optional, if you're just playing single and coop you can pretty much go as much as you want (though even coop might be hard to find if you go 200+ or something, I have no idea), but it kind of takes away the planning and roleplaying aspect of the game.

>>167550067
>>"One of the heirlooms used to contact the Great Ones, originating in the child of the Vilebloods. Long ago, in an encounter with the Great Ones, a contract was established, establishing the hunters and the hunters dream. Keep one to fend off foul spirits, or use it to obtain great Insight".
That's some good fanfiction right there. Where does it say that, exactly?
>Why is there a decision to be made?
Deciding whether or not to hunt down your fellow hunters is really a decision you need to sit down and think over.
>But why on earth did that warrant its own slot in storage? Why organize the weapons into three groups for right and left hands, and make the Vilebloods one of them when at release, it held two swords and one pistol?
Where else would it go? There's three groups, Workshop, Church, and Vilebloods.
>The Vilebloods are made out to be this big ancient half-forgotten threat, but it turns out there's just a queen who is "prisoner to this wretched mask", which is never brought up again. She claims there are no other Vilebloods, but the Bloody Crow of Cainhurst certainly seems to be one both by his name and the rune he drops. You get absolutely nothing for giving her blooddregs, there's a hard to get and very well hidden ring you can get to propose marriage, which again, does nothing, and you can revive her from the dead, something you can't do with any other important NPC in the game, but that doesn't ever really amount to anything or get mentioned by anything.
Yeah, they aren't shit by the time we find them
>You can't honestly tell me that Cainhurst didn't get a ton of content cut from it and was left as just sort of a half finished idea because the environment and weapons were neat, and the boss was cool.
They all kinda died before we got there, the Executioners did a good job of it. What else would there be?
>>167550090
When hitting 98, stay there

why can i not find the most powerful weapon in the game statistically?

>>167550259
Alright, small res is ringing

>>167550446
LHB is probably the most powerful, but in the end a weapon with lower AR but a moveset you're better with will be more powerful.

>>167550067
>hird Chord from the Workshop said
>>"One of the heirlooms used to contact the Great Ones, originating in the child of the Vilebloods. Long ago, in an encounter with the Great Ones, a contract was established, establishing the hunters and the hunters dream. Keep one to fend off foul spirits, or use it to obtain great Insight"
This is already explained, the queen wants blood dregs in order to obtain a child of blood, just like Queen Yharnam.
>You don't gain any strength, and you don't lose anything from joining them. Why is there a decision to be made?
Because it lets executioners invade you.
>The Vilebloods are made out to be this big ancient half-forgotten threat
They were never big and not a particularly big threat. The church hunted them down because they knew about blood, great ones et al.
>You get absolutely nothing for giving her blooddregs
You get rank positions and a unique gesture. Most covenants in the series are like that, it's nothing new.
>there's a hard to get and very well hidden ring you can get to propose marriage, which again, does nothing
It's there to confirm the link between Pthumerians and Vilebloods, pretty important item.
>and you can revive her from the dead, something you can't do with any other important NPC in the game
Because she never died to begin with, she's immortal.
>But why on earth did that warrant its own slot in storage?
Because their weapons certainly don't belong to the church or the workshop, nor they're neutral.
>You can't honestly tell me that Cainhurst didn't get a ton of content cut from it
I can, it's all normal. You just have excessively high expectations for an extinct faction.

I need the fucking wheel, goddamn

8 insight should be enough for now, ready to roll?

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Where were you when my nigga Amygdala got a role on a TV show?

>>167551112
Let's get to it. Maybe we won't get invaded instantly again.

Part of me hopes we do.

>>167551113
Has Amy been working out? Those arms aren't nearly as spindly as I remember

>>167551113
wew lad stranger faggotry just practicing plagiarism now eh

>>167551223
Old Blood does wonders to your testosterone levels.

>>167551430
Blood ministers HATE him! Great One boosts testosterone levels with this one weird trick!

>>167551223
Amy is just plain fucking tired of being cheesed

>>167551113
>Sequel to a show that doesn't need one
What could possibly go wrong?

>>167550372
>Where does it say that, exactly?
In the original release of the game, the day 1 patch alters it. It's also in the official guide.
>Where else would it go? There's three groups, Workshop, Church, and Vilebloods.
That's a false dilemma. You just wouldn't organize them that way. There isn't even much point or precedent for organizing your storage in that way. And if they are so died out and extinct, why would they deserve their own slot? Like you said, they aren't shit. Put them in a generic grouping with other less notable factions.
>Yeah, they aren't shit by the time we find them
So they made a whole secret area that you need an item from a relatively secret area to get to, complete with a boss that drops an item way back behind you when he dies that you have to wear and walk to the other side of the room to open up the throne room, you can revive/reform the queen if she gets killed using an altar with no instructions in yet a third hidden area, and there's a hidden ring that does nothing deep in an optional area most people don't do, and you're telling me all of this was done just to show that they've died out before you got there?
You could have made the same point, arguably better, by cutting out the Martyr Logarius fight and everything after it and putting in a different boss, and not showing that the Vilebloods still are alive in the form of their immortal queen.

>>167551820
Never realky git into ST because those highschool cuplenscenes bored me. Inwas under the inoression this was a season show and that it was keft on a clit hanger.

Was there really a closure on the last episode?

>>167552012
Fuck my fat fingers. Meant to say:

>>167551820 #
Never realky got into ST because those high school couple scenes bored me. I was under the impression this was a season show and that it was left on a cliff hanger.

Was there really a closure on the last episode?

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>>167551820
what do they even have to expand on? seems like they already wrapped things up at the end of the first season.

>>167551113
needs more eyes desu

Blood

>>167552149
There was. The only way I can see a continuation is with some fanfic tier shittery. Kind of like Dark Souls.

>>167552173
LAURENCE
DON'T YOU TOUCH THAT FUCKING BLOOD, LAD

>>167552173
NOW

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>>167552173
WAS DAT SPOILER?

>>167552173
MORE

>>167552173
Sweet blood

Connection error, sorry Isaac. I'll start ringing my small res at the Nightmare Church lamp.

>>167551769
"I'll make my arms so huge, they won't be able to hit my head anymore! I'll also grow more arms to rip them off, and have twice as many to beat them!"
>>167551867
>It's also in the official guide.
Any proof on that?
>That's a false dilemma. You just wouldn't organize them that way.
How would you? They don't fit anywhere else, it's like the "Other" section for garb.
>There isn't even much point or precedent for organizing your storage in that way.
There is, it's called organization
>And if they are so died out and extinct, why would they deserve their own slot?
Again, organization.
>Put them in a generic grouping with other less notable factions.
They don't belong in the Workshop or Church.
>So they made a whole secret area that you need an item from a relatively secret area to get to
No different than the Frontier or Choir Loft
>complete with a boss that drops an item way back behind you when he dies that you have to wear and walk to the other side of the room to open up the throne room
Probably bad design, would have been better as an outright drop, like the Mensis Cage
>you can revive/reform the queen if she gets killed using an altar with no instructions in yet a third hidden area
She's undead, immortal. Of course she can. Also, she's the only way to level up in the covenant, they need her back for gameplay purposes.
>there's a hidden ring that does nothing deep in an optional area most people don't do
Everyone does the chalices. Someone said it was to show the connection between Pthumerians and the Cainhursts.
>and you're telling me all of this was done just to show that they've died out before you got there?
Yes. Like the Choir, almost all of the Workshop, everything we find is abandoned.
>You could have made the same point, arguably better, by cutting out the Martyr Logarius fight
Who else would you fight? It makes sense for him to be there, ensuring no one finds Annalise

>>167552246
Chill Master Willem, I promise I won't forget your adage.

But I might create an entire city based on the sole usage of old blood to heal everything and anything

>about to fight Ludwig
>BB crashes
T-thanks game

>>167552390
Not him, but the guide thing is true. And it's obvious they were going to do something with Yharnam stone and queenly flesh and the ring, but ran out of time so all of those don't do shit. Also the fact that the covenants don't have any special rewards like they do in other souls games.

My take is you were originally supposed to marry Annalise and take the chair next to her as king of vileblods, but they ran out of time and that idea got used for the Lords of Hollows in Dark Souls 3.

>>167547641
Old blood gives you Marfans syndrome

>less than a minute in the ring with Ludwig

>>167552525
>Oil urn
>Fire Whirly R2
>2300 damage!!!
>Barely scratches his healthbar

Jesus Christ.

>>167552686
>And it's obvious they were going to do something with Yharnam stone and queenly flesh and the ring
Queenly flesh is used to revive the queen, the calcified baby and the ring exist for lore reasons.
There's nothing obvious about your personal headcanon.

>>167552525
That's part of the fight anon
Git gud

>>167552686
>And it's obvious they were going to do something with Yharnam stone
Exactly what could you do with a Lithopedion?
>queenly flesh
It's there for gameplay purposes. Annalise is the only way to level up in the covenant. If she's dead, it's all over.
>the ring
It's there to establish the link between Pthumerians and Cainhursts, and to laugh at everyone saying they want to marry their waifu.
>Also the fact that the covenants don't have any special rewards like they do in other souls games.
League has the Bucket, Vilebloods have a gesture. Is it really a bad thing that there aren't covenant rewards?
>My take is you were originally supposed to marry Annalise and take the chair next to her as king of vileblods, but they ran out of time and that idea got used for the Lords of Hollows in Dark Souls 3
And this headcanon is off to a flying start. Not a chance, Annalise doesn't give two shits about you, you're her toy soldier. The only thing they were working on but ran out of time for was probably The Old Hunters. Every time they have something finished but can't squeeze into the end, it usually turns out as DLC

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>>167551113
>Watching aegon

>>167553048
This, many items in these games only exist for flavor text or minor tasks, it's been a thing since Demon's Souls.

>>167552867
>>167552902
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I see items that seem to be connected but that have nonpurpose as cut content, you can think it's for lore reasons if you want, we will never know the truth anyways but you're wrong and I'm right lelele

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>>167553080
>watching "Youtube gamers" in general

Why are you being summoned as an enemy?

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>>167553510
Because I'm an Executioner and you're DISGUSTING FILTH

Or you're wearing the Hunter rune and it's being screwy

>>167553407
You just want to believe there's more to your precious Cainhursts than a Queen who sits on her ass all day, don't you?

>>167553604
And you just have a hateboner for anything that doesn't fit your interpretation.

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FUCKING
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Wait, is Laurence the Bloodletting Beast?

[GANKING INTENSIFIES]

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Some of you guys are alright, don't go to Mensis tomorrow

>>167553973
>Inb4HP gradually depletes

>>167554050
Nope.
26.3
Stamina Costs Up 3%.

Only took over 40 fucking tries. It'll do.

>>167553985
Laurence is the first Vicar, a boss in the DLC
also

THE FUCKING CHOIR CHIME KILLED LUDWIG'S HEAD
WHAT THE FUCK

>>167553679
No, just a realist. I think you might, though.
The Yharnam Stone is essentially a trophy, there to give some backstory to Queen Yharnam. The Flesh, I've been through this already, is used to keep the Cainhurst covenant going, there's no way to level up without her alive. The Ring, same as the Yharnam Stone.
Saying that there's clearly more content related to the Cainhursts just doesn't make sense. If your argument hinges on some loose ends and dead-end content, it's like saying the same happened with the Church or Yahar'gul because we can't get everywhere. There's plenty of dead-end items across the games, remember when Miyazaki advocated for taking the Pendant as the Starting Gift back in DaS?
>>167553985
>Laurence
>Bloodletting Beast
Well, seeing as there's a boss named Laurence, the First Vicar, I just don't know.

>>167554121
Congratulations. I'm glad I don't need to farm for that shit.

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>>167553973
>fire Moonlight

>>167552390
>>That's a false dilemma. You just wouldn't organize them that way.
>How would you? They don't fit anywhere else, it's like the "Other" section for garb.
>>There isn't even much point or precedent for organizing your storage in that way.
>There is, it's called organization
>>And if they are so died out and extinct, why would they deserve their own slot?
>Again, organization.
>>Put them in a generic grouping with other less notable factions.
>They don't belong in the Workshop or Church.
I feel like you're not getting it, because you keep saying they have to be in the Vileblood section of storage, because where else would they go? There doesn't -have- to be sections of storage. They very well could have been in an "Other" section. They chose to make a Vileblood section.
>Choir Loft
Yes, that's where you have to go to revive her. I already said that.
>She's undead, immortal. Of course she can.
Really? Really? If someone is claimed to be undead or immortal, you immediately think "Oh well then there must be some ancient remains of what looks similar to but not quite the same as a significant boss in the game, hidden away in a hidden area within a hidden area, where you bring a hunk of pulsating flesh to and it says 'Time flows in reverse for this scrap of flesh' and it'll put her back together miles and miles away. And that'll be the only purpose for that altar, but we'll have a hidden boss slouching down and staring at it mournfully, because of course how else would it be?".
>Everyone does the chalices.
Nope. No, and now I know for sure you're not even trying to have an open mind, nor to argue your own point.
Who else would you fight? It makes sense for him to be there, ensuring no one finds Annalise
The Cleric Beast equivalent of a Vileblood or something. The Bloody Crow of Cainhurst would make more sense. Once again you're justifying the way things are by citing the way things are. That isn't a reason, especially in a programmed fictional world.