/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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>>167480952
I'll never get bored of this OP image

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Any ps4friends up for helping me transfer some ng+ rings? My spear chucking millwood character is all ret2go except for those essential rings

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r8 my sliders

>>167481159
I can help, just give me sec to boot up my PS4.

>>167481241
Awesome, thanks. I'll be at the Cathedral bonfire, pass dsg as always.

Let me know if you want me to move anything for you.

Posting for Ryye and Wilhelm if they still want to fight, just waiting on Ryye to finish picking up his niece.

>>167481303
I'm heading there now. And don't worry about it, I don't need anything.

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Just had a beer after a long day at work. Anyone want a co-op partner?

>>167481303
Red sign is down
wew I forgot how shitty PS4 DaS3 is compared to PC

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>>167481502
>wew I forgot how shitty PS4 DaS3 is compared to PC
indeed

>>167481379

Also advertising, I'm at the friede bonfire, willing to trade a titanite slab for a large amount of embers. Password is 1234.

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Anor Londo is pure autism tonight.
god I love drunk souls pvp
Any FC going on?

>>167481159
>>167481303
Anon where are you

>>167480952
>>167481097
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>167481502
I'm retarded, your sign was on a bloodstain and totally blended in

>>167481881
No worries. Same place for your other character?

>>167482020
Yessir

Why firekeeper is such cheap waifubait?
At least doll had good lore reason to be waifubait, but firekeeper feels cheap as fuck

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>>167482020
Thanks a ton man. Really appreciate the sliders on Dusty by the way. Top handsome.

>>167482519
No problem. I'm always happy to help.
Thanks for the kind words.

>>167482476
What about her is actually waifubait though?

>>167482587
Her entire character

>>167482689
You're not making a very strong case

Hey Wilhelm, I farmed up a second ember, do you want to try a run without Ryye?

>>167482878
Sure, I'm just waiting around here still anyway.

>>167482930
>OK. Any extra embers help, but I can farm more if need be.

>>167480590
Because Majula is an open nexus you silly cunt.
You can rush:
FotG - Bastille
Grave of Saints - Gutter - Black Gulch - Sanctum City Shulva
Tower of Flame - No Man's Wharf - Bastille
Tower of Flame - Huntsman's Copse - Poison bum fuck land - Iron Keep
Shaded Woods - Doors of Pharros - Tseldora

That's 5 different paths available to you in the early game, which allows players to rush a specific build or items. Or just do whatever bosses they want first.

DS3 does not do this. DS3 is a linear ass straight line. Of all the places you could champion DS3 map design, not being straight is a poor one.

>trying to boss invade Vordt as a shitty vordt cosplay because I haven't tried it yet and its getting fixed
>in 10 invasions, not a single person has actually tried to fight him, just stood inside Dancer's impassable fog
>finally get someone with both npc phantoms summoned making their way down the stairway, obviously wanting to fight the boss
>just stand on the sidelines cheering them on, not even going to actually attack them in the boss fight just want to run around and watch, maybe kill swordmaster or something, probably even help kill the boss, they seem really new
>they die to a crossbowman before even entering the fight

Whatever you're dropping doesn't actually appear on the ground for me.

>>167483659
Sad, I was trying to leave you a titanite slab for sticking with me through all this BS.

>>167483628
when you boss invade it doesn't show the host a message about being invaded IIRC, so they don't know you're there until they see you
what you want to do is hide and just run to the boss room when you see the healthbar appear on screen
probably obscuring ring helps

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The first jailer , an inhabitant of the Profaned Capital who managed to escape its collapse and was recruited by Pontiff Sulyvahn to oversee the path leading to Boreal Valley . Perhaps the screams emanating from the Ashen ones helps him forget his old home.

>>167483814
>>167451794
From has already confirmed that they're working on a new dark fantasy title that uses similar mechanics to Soulsborne. It will just be similar to the shift we saw from Dark Souls to Bloodborne or from DeS to Dark but it'll not be called Souls or borne.

Introducing our new action RPG, BloodDark.

>>167483861
why do you keep posting this, friend

>>167483949
>>167483814
Boy I fucked up that post. Missed the greenarrow, linked the wrong post. Fuck me.

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>>167476975
>the das2 meta of bufffagging
Jesus christ the pvp in that game was awful.

>>167483659
SO CLOSE, UUGHGHH

>>167483628
Abyss Watchers is where the fun is at, friend. A bunch of phantoms and enemies all trying to kill each other in the boss arena while you fuck over the host and his buttbuddies, nothing else like it.

>>167483856
You and the host can see each other's health bars so long as you have direct line of sight. Obscuring Ring doesn't help, you have to actually hide where they can't see you, otherwise they'll immediately know where you are and that they need to BC you out.

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Send light for light.

>>167483856
Fuck, I didn't know about the message, that makes it way more fun. If invasions actually worked like this all the time I wouldn't care how many advantages the host got.

>use a branch to hide among the headless armors
>host runs up and looks at me for a bit, rolls into me, then turns around and wanders off
>massive grin on my face
>Lion Knight Albert runs up and jumping attacks
Fucking NPCs spoiling my fun

>>167484085
>vanilla DS2

Wilhelm, should I summon Gael?

Dark Souls 4 directed by Tanimura fucking when

>>167484610
they said 3 was the last darksouls game didn't they

but really that just means the next one will be a new setting/IP like bloodborne was

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>>167484610
Hopefully fucking never

>>167484687
fuck off memezaki you ruined das3

>>167484085
>that animation on flying away

What. The. Fuck.

>>167484757
the das2 UGS golfswing was a beautiful gift

Why does everyone in the DS2 Arena do this stupid fucking bullshit where they fight with their back to you the whole time?

I understand unlocking to redirect attacks, I do it all the time, but why do they do it the whole time? It's the most annoying shit to have to look at.

>>167484757
It's the "flattened" animation. They obviously didn't care enough to change it from the UGS's that had running overheads that pounded people into the ground.

>>167480952
>lothric castle is so hard for casuls that you can invade, chameleon somewhere and they die without intervention

literally free sunlight medals/tongues etc

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>>167484883
>invade farron swamp
>they summon 3 phantoms
>run off and hide
>host dies offscreen

>>167484843
are they wearing the lmaonodamagefrombehind ring?

>>167484653
Miyazaki didn't want to outright say that there's not going to be anymore Souls games but Dark Souls 3 will be the last one in a loooooongg while.

>>167484947
as we speak, there are 3 people trying to poison the two dragons

they haven't opened the portcullis to that legit rapezone with the knights and priests yet

>>167484948
No, they're not wearing it. I would understand it if they were, but they just do it for seemingly no reason.

It must be some meme strategy because I've seen people doing it for literal years, I just never bothered to ask why. It obviously works because it's annoying as shit to fight, I just wonder why this is a thing.

>>167484950
He probably meant "I'm not directing in Dark souls game again", why would they kill a paying meme franchise?
Not to mention none of the lore is going to get wrapped up in Ringed City

Wilhelm! Name a place to summon me, you deserve a titanite slab at the very least for all that work.

>>167485172
Not necessary, I really have way more slabs than I have anything to do with already.

It was a pain in the ass, but that was a lot of fun to take out Friede at such a low SL.

>>167485223
Agreed! Vereor Nox friend.

Also Ryye, if you can get in contact with me, I can still drop you a replacement bow.

>>167485172
>>167485223

You can't drop uprade materials in DS3, I think?

>>167485309
Hi friend, am back from the journey

iHop on the way back held me up. Was worth it though, sorry for the wait

>>167485427
Not slabs at least, it would seem. I'll probably get ding-dong bannu if another wave goes out this next patch.

>>167485427
no, but you can drop whatever weapon you'd like to get slabbed easily enough

that's how I get around it at least

>>167485448
Hey Ryye, we finished up, but like I said, if you want a replacement bow, just name a spot and I'll drop one for you, same password.

>>167485523
High Wall sound good?

Is the DLC for das3 good?

>>167485612
It's okay

>>167485565
Yeah, I'll leave my sign at the base of the stairs.

IM DOING A BLIND RUN AND IM IN FARRONS KEEP SWAMP AND I AM MAD.

>>167485612
good weapons and some armor sets, shit everything else. Bad spells, bad rings, very short location, 1 bloodborne boss and 1 miniboss

>>167485612
No, unless you're a dexfag that loves Bloodborne.

>>167485683
If you don't know where to go, backtrack to the Farron Keep bonfire, climb up the ladder, and look around for the burning towers. There's a couple other places where you can see them, but it's designed to be an overlook.

I desperately want a weapon like the Valorheart, except Spear & Shield instead of Sword & Shield. Spear/Lance fighting styles are so much more interesting than DS3 makes them seem.

Even the Drang Twinspears, which could have been the most interesting spear weapons in the game, are incredibly boring and basic.

>>167485612
Are you either a lorefag/pricsillafag? Then yes. It's also got some top-tier weapons.

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I wanna host a ps4 fc, anyone interested?

>>167485806
>>167485745

I'm a strfag
Is it really very short?
Damn

>>167485883
Mostly dex weapons, although the hidden bosses sword/shield combo weapon is pretty cool for str/quality builds.

>>167485883
Technically you won't find it very short if you hit it at the intended SL and take your time in a normal fashion as you explore the areas.

Only two bosses, even if one is pretty great, is bad no matter how you look at it though.

>>167485612
It's worth for the fightclub coliseum for me personally. Everything else is just gravy.

>>167485929
That weapon actually scales more towards Dex as well. So it's best for Dex or Quality builds.

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>>167485678
Are we thinking of the same stairs ;-;

>>167486039
Yes. Let me try reapplying it. This character is endgame so maybe the areas no longer sync? We should still be able to connect with the password. I'll put the sign right on where you currently are at the top of the stairs.

>>167485982
I always find retarded when people judge about the DLC content by the amount of bosses.
I mean, this DLC has some of the best quality of equipment of all souls DLCs, some of the coolest enemy designs and is really satisfying to invade, but who the fuck cares when it has two boss fights even if one of them has more content than 3 separate boss fights in DS1 yeah?

>>167486127
PW is 1234, right?

>>167486216
yes

>>167486186
I would be inclined to agree that only two wouldn't matter, but Gravetender is super mediocre and sort of throws all of that out of whack and brings the DLC down as a result.

>>167472263
Huh, this kind of follows.

You didn't work in where OCELOTTE fits in.
Are Ocerios and Egg Girl (Gertrude?) the Prince's parents too? Why did Ocerios go on this crazy dragon obsession after having his two kids? Was OCELOTTE a third child to try and link the flame or a weapon again the Pontiff for turning his children against him?

If Egg Girl stole the baby, why did Oceiros have it? I'd be happy to say OCELOTTE was in Ocerios' head if we didn't hear the baby cry during the fight.

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>>167486216
>>167486239
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6iW-8xPw3k

>>167486239
going to relaunch the game, but use the pass "dsgmule" without quotations

you do the same, hopefully it'll reset our connections

>>167486186
>this

You ungrateful faggots don't appreciate anything. You want quantity of quality. Frankly I'd trade at least 6 bosses from DS1 for the entire Elfriede fight and I'd still feel like I'd be getting a fucking bargain.

>>167486304
>quantity of quality
quantity over quality I meant

>>167486304
Most dark souls DLC is just a thinly-veiled weapons and armor bundle, but hidden throughout cut-content areas that didn't make the base game

I'm doing a luck/int build at the moment in DS3 with the Man Grub's Staff. Where should I settle on int? I feel like I fucked up bringing it all the way to 32 to cast Soul Spear when it only seems to do 10-30 more damage than GHSA with a much higher FP cost.
Will the difference be much larger as I hit the soft cap, or should I just redist those int points into something else?

>>167486293
done

>>167485883
Honestly length isn't the big issue, it's content.
STRfags get a nice but boring axe.
The great axe and hammer have interesting weapon arts but again the same movesets while being shittier than base game counterparts.

>>167480952
>got """"parried"""" by the caestus again

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>>167485832
Anyone?
I have prizes?

>>167486239
is the 1 capitalized

>>167486469
thanks senpai, I love you long time

>>167486304
people want quantity AND quality anon

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>>167486543
Sorry, PCfag, otherwise I'd love to have your...... prize.

>visit fextralife
>click on page about NPC
>It's a blank page that just says "**** ME IN THE ASS"

Wew, no wonder it's the most popular wiki, you never know what you're going to get.

AotA really aged like milk.
Shit enemy designs (basically just slight variations of base game enemies, only corrupted and humanity sprites are new and they are boring as fuck to fight against), shit location design which is overly linear for its own good, shit equipment design with only good weapon being the tracers. I kinda understand why nostalgiafags are so focused around boss fights because they are literally the only area where DLC doesn't shit the bed. That and maybe Gough's dialogues.

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>>167486582
np

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>new londo ruins
>get through the area no death
>valley of drakes
>last drake to kills me with bullshit glitch out
>undead parish bonfire
>have to go through entire area again

Im out, goodnight dark souls you piece of shit.

>>167485832
I'm on PS4 but it's pretty late here (6:40 am and I didn't sleep) so I don't really feel like playing. Plus I have been getting bored of the game after 800-900 hours, most of those PvP, so I'm not that motivated. And I doubt you will find other people who play on PS4 here.

Those Gwyndolin pics sure tempted me, though. I bet you're cute.

>>167486718
First time playing?

>>167486679
They really fucked up by only using the best new enemy in that DLC only once.

>>167485832
>>167486543

I have a PS4 but won't get DS3 on it until the GOTY launches. So only Bloodborne for me until then and I don't even have PS+

>>167486802
The Chained Prisoner?

>archdragon peak
>some uber long hit from enemy goes through 2 walls to hit me and instakill me

10/10

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>>167486943
>>some uber long hit from enemy goes through 2 walls to hit me and instakill me

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>>167486624
That's lewd!
I understand tho, was still hoping for something.
>>167486737
I think I'm cute, sleep well anon, maybe next time I host fc you might be awake.
I'm hosting in a Gwyndolin cosplay build too.
>>167486867
Where is everyone then? This was gonna be my first real fight club hosting since I'd finally finished a character to 120 and gotten stuff to give away.

>>167486802
He was more like a miniboss and yeah, if there was more of them it would be cool.

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>>167486943

>>167486943
>>archdragon peak
Hate that place. Something about those mobs there just wrecks me. I get stun locked bad even with heavy armour.

>>167484883
Dungeon is the same way. I've invaded and just followed people. Ended up with around 100 shackles doing fuck all.

>blueberry of a higher SL gets brought in
>they end up killed by the Jailers or curse frogs or giant

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Well?

>>167487021
If we're talking about the Chained Prisoner, there are actually a couple of Black Phantom version of them in the Chasm of the Abyss that appear when you're Gravelorded. Shame that never happens so people don't get to see it.

>>167487001
Don't forget to prism stone the shit out of your arena for maximum fashion souls.

>>167487178
deep lore

This is a shot in the dark but anyone on xbone willing to help me with fume knight? I have 2.8 million soul memory.

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Just finished this part in III, what did you guys think of it? I personally loved it.

Post the name of your weaponfu, and r8 other people's weaponfus.
>Drakeblood Greatsword
This thing can two-shot low armor people with both clutch rings and DMB, between 600-800 a hit.

>>167487453
It would have been better if it had a different name, like The Old Cathedral.

>>167487453
It was really good. Some people don't like that it was such a massive reference to Dark Souls 1, but I thought it was done tastefully. Some of the callbacks aren't, like Andre, but that one was cool.

>>167484085
>people got so much PTSD from the buffs from not only gutted buffs, they also made them even worse for PvP AND added the duel charm
Glad I was never fighting that meta.

>>167484248
What did you mean by this?
Are you sure it's not "Sunlight4life"?

>>167487504
The Bastard Sword.

It's just a simple and reliable powerhouse, I really like the stomp WA and it has some of the lowest stamina consumption on swing for its weapon class. Range is lacking, but I get the same feeling from most of the greatswords so it doesn't bother me.

It really sucks that they just copy-pasted the moveset to like 70% of the other greatswords though.

>>167486679
First DaS generally aged like shit
After das3 and bloodborne it's painful to play

>>167487065
>>167486980
>>167487069

IT's those chain guys big guys i am very frustrated

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>512000 SnakeSoul

>>167487831
Chain snek is the slayer of speedruns

>>167486718
>getting killed by the drakes
These things are so useless they cant even fly over a cliff
>>167487205
This, I was gravelorded once there. It was the first (and last) time I was legitimately scared since my first run, when I tried to tackle new londo at a lowish level to get uncursed.

>>167487453
I liked it. Was sad seeing your old giant friend.

Dragging the spider dog out to the the bridge area and hanging out with it is comfy.

>>167487304
I did, the invaders I got didn't seem to care, annoyingly enough

>tfw new resins

>>167487994
buncha loserscrubs is what they are

>>167487994
Unfortunate.

I've created scavenger hunts for my invaders and invadees. Bitches love rubbish.

>>167487453
The only thing i dislike about this segment is that you can't re-explore living quarters. Extend Aldritch Faithfuls to work here and it would be godly.
Entering boss room for the first time, seeing a drastic contrast with DS1 and hearing Gwyndolin's screams as his body is controlled by Aldritch was one of the most unsettling moments of DS3 for me.

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>>167487504
Winged Spear, because it has good range, decent speed and damage, and looks really nice.

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>>167488004
>bleed bundles

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why is this general so slow. is dark souls dead or what

>>167488004
>plural
other than frostbite which has been added as a sorcery, what would they even do? curse buildup?

>>167488260
it deserves to die desu

also most burgers are still sleeping

>>167488260
it's 3am in burgerland retard

>>167488260
it's between 2-5 AM in burgerland, and 3 for me.

>>167488260
it's better when it's slower
the only alternative is american prime shitposting time

>>167488260
It's anywhere from 2-5 AM in north America.

I should go to bed

I'd still like to know why the Princes' chamber is full of feathers.

>>167488260
yes, and you can thank DS3 for it

>>167488260
There isn't anything new to discuss, and there hasn't been anything for quite a while. Next surge in activity will be February 8th when the NDA ends for those streamers that went to the Namco event to play the DLC.

I'm currently reading this and Nioh's general though that one is much slower since the game didn't even come out yet and it's a PS4 exclusive.

>>167488338
>Frampt is considered to be an angel
>all statues of Frampt outside of Princes' boss room are destroyed
>Princes are cursed
You tell me anon.

>>167488031
The loserest
>>167488075
Top kek

>>167488260
aren't we supposed to get some info in 3-4 days? come back then if you want activity

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I KEEP FUCKING LOSING IN THE ARENA. WHY AM I SO FUCKING BAD.

>>167488345
Nioh general is full of endgame spoilers so i'm forced to avoid it for now.

>>167488458
Use sunlight spear
Idiots don't know what Unfaltering Prayer is, and take 900 damage to the face.

>>167487453
DS1 callback smeared in Bloodborne crap, while ultimately being inferior to the games it tries to combine.
Basically a perfect expression of DS3.

Also, Aldrich and Gwyndolin both talking to you during the bossfight would've saved the entire area.

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>>167488430
>invadee picks up an item near a prism stone
>it's rubbish
>invadee picks up an item near a prism stone
>it's rubbish
>invadee picks up an item near a prism stone
>it's rubbish
>invadee picks up an item near a prism stone
>it's rubbish
>invadee picks up an item near a prism stone
>it's rubbish
>they use the collapse gesture and keep going
Hosts are cute.

ive fucking lost ELEVEN duels in a row in the arena and everyone i fight is a LAGGY FUCKING ASSHOLE

>>167488698
Where are you from? During these hours you might be up against people in countries with shitty internet.

>tfw dark souls 3 doesnt support lan

>>167488698
What build and weapon are you using?

>>167488763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6qa7aptE1Q

>>167488792
this board is a worksafe board, anon

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>invade
>see this in my player list
what do?

>>167488826
go back to sleep

>>167488826
don't play for a bit, Chinese players are garbage.

>>167488826
Unzip B-29 Superfortress

>>167488338
They were having a pillow fight.

>tfw game too dead to bother low-level invading

>>167488792
>tfw these are probably the conditions the online content was playtested in

>>167482476
>just have a girl character
>wahh waifubait!

You're an idiot.

>>167489062
level 20 invasions gave me 77 tongues yesterday
U WOT

>>167489096
i meant at this time of day

Hi guys I just started playing Dark Souls (never played the franchise before) and wondering about durability
I just got this Uchigatana weapon after accidentaly killing some seller guy because I thought he was an enemy, but I noticed that it's durability is way lower than my starting sword, is it useful at all? I'm afraid that the sword might break after 10 fights

>>167488398
Interesting. I can't help but wonder if the effect of Lorian's teleport is supposed to look "feathery". Or wonder if their mom is Gertrude, the cage being the only place I recall seeing feathers. I need to double check that tower with the 3 angel knights.

>>167489124
Oh, I'm stupid, nvm

>>167489143
Yes, it breaks easier. Gear is repairable at blacksmiths as well as from a purchasable item (Repair Box? I think it's called)

>>167489143
The Uchi is a very good weapon, buy a repair box from a blacksmith and you won't have to worry about the durability

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>tfw the only moonlight greatsword design that actually looks good is the Bloodborne version

Even worse that they carried over the worst design from DaS1 into 3.

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What does /dsg/ think of this? I don't like the 40 END on there and would rather split the points on Intelligence and Faith.

>>167489519
I disagree.

>>167489519
I like the DS3 one, but the BB one is definitely far and away the best. DS2's is an awful lego sword that belongs in transistor

>>167489519
please stop shilling memeborne

it's only good at BL240 because each and every single weapon in the game is unlimited fun and nobody should be forced to only pick between a small handful of them but nobody actually plays at this level because they're all shitters

>>167489729
>Spoiler
I agree, so many weapons to fuck around with. It's genuinely amazing how they picked out such a good bunch. Other than a few disappointments because a lot of things are resistant to blunt.

>>167485780
I'd like to hear what you think would make an interesting moveset for that weapon.

>>167489669
>27 Vigor

>>167489143
durability is hardly an issue in ds1. i've only ever had things break was when 1)invaded a hacker once (had neglected to get watchdog) 2)did a bow only run (not sure why, maybe because I rushed +15) 3)got puked on by corrosive enemies

>>167489791
valorheart but with a spear and no twirling

>>167489519
the design from des or bb would be out of place, since they are different universes. that leaves the design from 1, 2 and a new one. I wouldn't mind a new design, but in 2 it looked like ass and it resembled the mlgs less that the bmgs did.

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>>167489519
I fucking love Setz artwork!

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>tfw no hand cranked gatling crossbow in das3

>>167487453
>>167487591
The problem is that it has none of the exploration the area had in DaS, it felt like such a huge missed opportunity. I mean imagine if they took the same layout but had all collapsed hallways and bits broken off. A DaS veteran would start running through feeling familiarity, only to find new ambushes and different combat situations that throw them off, then the most jarring moment is where they find a hallway just ending out into the open and they have to scale part of the crumbled exterior to get around. This ain't your pa's Anal Rodeo...

Instead we just get "Hey member this hallway, member Gwyndolin, member the Giant blacksmith? Member!?" The sheer linearity of the area below doesn't help.

>>167490079
The gatling was such a big disappointment honestly. I guess they couldn't make it actually powerful because of how fucking op it would've been, but it and Ludwig's rifle feel like a third of the power they should be desu.

>>167488567
whats with people always making autistic rants about DS3's callbacks?

>>167485683
WELL THERE WAS A DARK, SHITTY AND POISONOUS SWAMP AREA IN DARK SOULS 1 AND WE ALL KNOW DS1 IS THE BEST GAME EVER
U RIKE IT?

is dragon peak necessary for game over playing through neccesary

>>167490160
huh?

that gatling is only +8 without a bloodgem. it's the highest sustained DPS firearm in-game sans spamashed memevelyn

at +10 w/ a 35% gem and 99 tinge it can get 400 AR

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>>167490025

>>167490160
They could only give them so much power before turning the game into a shooter, but as you said this way it doesn't feel right. This is way magic is a superior system imho, you can completely arbitrarily change its powerlevel to something more balanced and it won't feel completely weird
>>167490079
I refuse to believe this isn't staged. I can't even begin to imagine what would be going through that idiot's mind if not.

>>167490218
It's an entirely optional area as far as beating the game goes, but skipping it is highly ill-advised.

>>167490210
There was a dark, shitty and poisonous swamp in des as well, m8. It's not all about le ebin ds1 references. Miyazaki just enjoys being a dick.

>>167490329
>but skipping it is highly ill-advised.

For what purpose?

>>167490359
It's just a cool area in general, contains one really good bossfight and tons of upgrade materials and loot.

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Okay so these are my stats, how the hell am I getting so fucked at Peak
Refined dark sword +10 and greatshield of glory +1

>>167490402
I saw on fextra that if they survive a riposte those things go into a passive state with a begging stance, is it just total bullshit or real?

>>167489161
Lorian is internally referred to by the game as DarknessBigBrother.
Both of them have enormous resistance to the Dark.
Whatever angel-like shit they are using, it's probably abyssal in nature.

>>167490439
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2eFF1ZHe00

2:15

They sit there for a while and then just give up and beg for mercy

>>167490439
nah it's actually real

one FUGS charged R2 usually puts em into it

>>167490247
>that gatling is only +8 without a bloodgem.
>only +8
Yeah, I remember my standard-issue Hunter pistol providing better bang for the buck at +8, having better bloodtinge scaling and it can gun parry.

>>167489143
Keep repair powder on you for extended trips.

>>167489808
I've had gear broken by Gaping Dragon when it pinned me against a wall and vomited everywhere.

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>>167490160
the fuck you're even talking about
here's minigun just at 37 bloodtinge with shit gems
at 50 with top tier bloodtinge gem it's even stronger

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>>167490419
>101
please tell me you're ng+
>48 dex
>27 vig
I get the feeling you're meming us with hunter+milkring. if not, put the 8 dex in vig
>dorksword+gshield

>>167490537

I'm first playthrough
I have rings: Hunter's Ring, untrue dark ring,carthus bloodring, carthus milkring

>>167490537
>>167490586
kek, i remember when i was a scrub

>>167490629

I will always be a scrub, I have (legit) 76 IQ.
I like these games though, even if I have to grind a lot

>>167490439
DS2 had some enemies like that. The Elephant men and dogs would just sit and stay down.

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>>167490439

>>167490537

So I should grind my vig up now?
How far, 40? is that the softcap?

>>167490671
no wonder you went dex

>>167490702
CUTE
U
T
E

>>167490448
Very interesting. He is vulnerable to Lightning as well...

Maybe they were born angels/holy but lost it all when Pontiff corrupted them.

Or maybe it's all left over feathers from the weird flying monsters outside.

I wanted to run a Yuria cosplay playthrough to see how far I can get her and darkdrift, but I don't want to lock her out of the lord of hollows ending by killing the in-game yuria for her stuff. I don't suppose anyone has a darkdrift/yuria outfit they would be willing to toss my way?

>>167490702
Little creepy.

>>167490671
Now there is no satisfaction in mocking you. What a let down.

HAH

just figured out i can grind the 2 enemies at the start of peak's bonfire with 2 hits instead of 3 when i two hand my sword, sweet

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Guys I just killed that passive ugly bug in The Gutter, then I saw a lot of messages on the ground like "Nice job, monster" and "bug but friend!"

What the fuck was that and did I fucked up something?

>>167490210
Yeah, DS3 should've had an area more like the Gutter, that's way more original than Farron Keep

>>167491019
The big ant thing? Its gas cures poison

>>167491019
I think the gas it emits repairs your weapons or some dumb shit like that. You didn't miss anything.

>>167491096
>>167491108
Oh, good, I thought it could be an NPC or some shit like that.

This is my setup now, thoought I'd go for fast roll
I need to level up my vitality so I can hold my great shield while fast rolling too, big grinds ahead

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>>167491238
ofc i forget picture

Also this is bullshit, I googled, and it said anor londo is better for grind, but the silver knights 2 shot me

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>>167490698
That seemed more like a bug though, as I can't think of any reason their AI would just stop working when you parried them. They didn't even have any animation, they would just stay in their parried state forever.

>>167491047
The Gutter was a decent idea, but I don't think it was well executed. The enemies there were pathetic. Apparently the area was originally intended to be the home of the Gyrm (from the Design Works interview if I recall correctly) I wonder how that would have been. Better than just hollows and the dogs. By the way, those dogs are probably the most broken (in the literal sense) enemies in the entire Souls series. Their hitboxes extend to their entire body and start the exact same frame their attack does, it's funny.

>>167490671
Don't sweat it man, guys here with 500 hours played have no perspective at times. Just do your thing, however you enjoy playing.

I probably earned like 20+ levels just helping people beat bosses because I enjoy it. Certainly not /dsg/ min-max approved.

>>167491620

Thank you that's very kind

>>167491238

Are you unable to get below 70% equip load with that? You don't really need to be below 30%, ESPECIALLY if you use a greatshield.

You need more VIG and other stats, not VIT. VIT is a very, very niche stat that only a few builds should ever level.

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Is the Age of Dark perhaps the same as what was before the Age of Fire, with the dragons? Based on the dialogue with the Fire Keeper after you give her the eyes, she claims to see tiny flames in the distance among the darkness. Almost as if that letting this Age of Fire end and the next Age of Dark will allow for a much more glorious Age of Fire once more.

If that's so it's quite possible there's sequel potential. It'd be neat to play a Dark Souls where we begin the new Age of Fire.

>>167490702
b-but I want Lautrec's armor...

>>167490836
Angels in DS3 are hollows. They get additional damage from Hollowslayer and the flesh behind their feathers is dark, like if their wings are formed by pus of man. The fact they are using flashy white miracles doesn't tell us anything, real antipode to dark in souls series is fire and lighting, "divine" miracles may be some sort of an abyssal shit masked to look noble.

>>167491741
There no darkness in the age before of fire, it was age of deep fog.
Darkness/abyss is Kaathe and Manus invention because it can't hurt soulless creatures like serpents and dragons but fucks everyone else
Just the fact that firekeeper wants age of fire to end means she doesn't have soul and wants to fuck everyone else for her own sake

>>167491741
age of dark is what you see in the consumed king's garden, untended graves or 4kangz boss battle

>>167491850
Manus did not invent anything. He's a victim of Kaathe and Oolacile and was also unfortunate enough to be an early descendant of Pygmy so when Kaathe manipulated Oolacile into digging his grave his humanity simply run uncontrollably wild, creating Abyss.

>>167491781
I don't think the winged knights are angels, just astute followers of them

>>167491108
it actually really slowly destroys equipment but cures poison

>>167491741
I think the suggestion is there is no "permanent" answer, there are always cycles one way or another. Even extinguishing the flam to give rise to a new Age of Dark doesn't mean no one will ever find a way to rekindle the flames.

There will always be heroes like Ludleth to save us from the Dark, and assholes like Yuria to "save us" from the Fire.

At least, that is how I see it.

>>167491956
This is what I thought too.

Should I go to NG+? I made this character for the upcoming dlc and intentionally left my HP at 853 to give myself more of a damage, but even now I feel like I'd be doing a lot of damage. I also have some items I missed in the first playthrough that I wanna get,

>>167491956
They are called ascended winged knights but i have hard time imagining hollows ascending to any divine power.

>>167491769
you can leave the other one you meet on the bridge alive

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=840L5drTLP8

Holy shit why is the Astora GS rolling attack literally useless now? Like I understand it was nerfed but to the point of literally useless is a bit much, right? right??
r-right?

Just got Demon's Souls. Any tips so I don't COMPLETELY fuck myself over?

Not looking for spoonfeeding, going in blind for the first playthrough obviously, just curious if there is stuff like don't level resistance in ds1.

Also, is the equip load breakpoint same as in ds1?

>>167492090
why? even the gods themselves are ascended hollows

>>167492114
>chime noises
MY EARS

>>167492090
Gwyn was both "divine" and quite Hollowy at the end there, no?

>>167491850

The Fire Keeper doesn't want the Age of Fire to end, when you give her the eyes she tells you that it is forbidden for Fire Keepers to have the eyes, as they can see what lies after the darkness. I'm pretty sure ol' no leg also says that the Lords of Cinder took the eyes from her so she wouldn't see the betrayal that will bring about the Age of Dark.

She begs you not to betray everyone by allowing the flame to fade, but exists to serve you and therefore does not get in your way if you do. Only, she asks that if you ever change your mind, to kill her and remove the eyes so she may live in ignorance once more.

She says that what she sees of the Age of Dark is endless darkness, but that little flames were glittering in the distance, which gives her hope. Which is what got me thinking.

>>167491870

Is it? It's not... horrible, but not really what I was expecting. Still, that dialogue she has makes me think that the Age of Dark isn't the end of all things or just the Age of Man.

>>167492036

True, but it seems the main cycle has had the flame rekindled until it is merely embers. I wonder if we'll ever see the Age of Dark and what comes after. Maybe we are the Furtive Pygmy in the next game.

>>167492134
What class do you want to play as?

Does it make any difference whether I give pyromancy tomes to Karla or Cornyx? Will both offer the spell?

>>167492169
>The Fire Keeper doesn't want the Age of Fire to end, when you give her the eyes she tells you that it is forbidden for Fire Keepers to have the eyes,
Don't remember this shit in das, another glorious a team retcon?
But seriously, i'm sure she's fake firekeeper or something

>>167492192
No, only the one you give the spell to will teach it to you.
Karla can take more pyromancies from you, and can also teach you dark pyromancies and scoreries

>>167492137
We don't actually know to what species gods belong to. I bet that they are descendants of giants to go in line with Greek mythology throwbacks.

I don't remember a single case of actual human hollow becoming a god aside from Pygmy and he's a fucking Caine of soulsverse, with Manus being Antediluvian.

>>167492192
Cornyx won't teach Quelaana's/dark pyromancies.

>>167492192

I don't know about the Carthus or the Swamp tomes, but Cornyx will refuse the Quelaana tome as he says that only a witch (and thus a female) may learn them, and the other one is far too dark for him. Karla is the only way you can learn those spells, she also gives you the chance to learn dark miracles without corrupting another NPC.

>>167492169
>Is it? It's not... horrible, but not really what I was expecting

Both sides could be playing up the downsides of their opposite.

Also there could be more at play than our limited perspective.

Keep in mind we never saw the Dark Souls world in "full bloom". We're only ever brought in when everything has gone to shit.

>>167487504
DaS was the Falchion, +15 on a Dex build UNGH my dick.

DaS3, I dunno, I like a lot of them, nothing really stands out. Currently playing around with Arstor's Spear as an offhand weapon for low level PvP, that's amusing since it does decent damage and poisons, as well as adding pokes to my otherwise sweep moveset (Str build).

Best spot to farm the deserter set?

>>167492191
I usually go with quality or str builds. I already chose temple knight as starter class but I think I'm gonna re-roll another one since I'm not interested in magic at the first playthru

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>>167492239

She's not. She constantly reminds you that you must gather the Lords of Cinder to their thrones and link the flame, even when you give her the eyes and tell her you plan to snuff it out. Her only purpose is to serve the Unkindled One to allow him to do exactly what she asks you to do.

It's not really a retcon, but it's likely that as the fire continued to fade and was rekindled to the point of embers, the Age of Dark slowly became more and more prevalent and the Fire Keepers began to see it. That's probably why she says it is forbidden for Fire Keepers to have eyes, so that they can never see the Age of Dark. Either to be twisted by it or to be swayed by it.

Also, this Fire Keeper is best Fire Keeper. She's a sweetheart, and she emotes back at you.

>>167492341

That's why I'd like to see a full blown Age of Dark, and then we have the option to light the First Flame and usher in a new Age of Fire. I want to see both in their absolute glory.

Which would make for at LEAST one fully fleshed out Souls game after this one.

>>167492239
>But seriously, i'm sure she's fake firekeeper or something

I wouldn't support this at all if Irina wasn't there. A second Firekeeper candidate somehow waylaid brings up a lot of questions to me.


>>167492405
I'd love to see a Souls game with a full on Londor, before everything goes to shit before DS1

>>167492169
>The Fire Keeper doesn't want the Age of Fire to end
She only says this because she was mind raped into serving as an insurance for linking the fire.
She jumps on first opportunity to actually follow you and betray the entire world just for you two to cuddle together till the world resets itself.

>>167492370
It drops from hollow Lothric soldiers right?
I'm guessing either Dragon Barracks or Tower on the Wall bonfires.

>>167492383
You will need magic weapon for the 2-x world
4-x will be easiest for you

>>167492251
In the opening cinematic, "they" arrive from the Dark and find the lord souls, transforming "them" into gods. And "they" looked very much like hollows do
>Pygmy is a fucking Caine of soulsverse, with Manus being Antediluvian
What did you mean by this? unironically, I can't figure out the pygmy-caine connection and have no idea what the antideluvian is
By the way, Greek Gods descended from a couple of Titans and God inbreeding. The Giants were a separate race iirc.

>>167492405
Original firekeepers were treated like shit and no one cared about their opinion
How the fuck she can even see age of dark without it to come?
And because she's such poorly made waifu bait she's the worst support character in the entire franchise

>>167492740
>How the fuck she can even see age of dark without it to come?
She's not the first character in DS3 to be able to see the future.
>worst support character in the entire franchise
Remove your shit taste from this thread.

>>167492251
>I don't remember a single case of actual human hollow becoming a go
Because there too many humans sharing dark soul

I just hit for 119 damage with a BKH running 2HR1 on someone wearing 2part havels. That isn't legit right? those defences are waaaay above anything else I've seen

>>167492791
And even if she saw age of dark, what the fuck she could do?
Why main shrine even need firekeeper?

>>167492802
Did you land a hit with the sweet spot of the weapon, or a whiff part of it?

>>167492854
>firekeeper's job is to tend to the flames
>get to firelink
>no flame

>>167492896
worked fine in das1 after lautrec killed firekeeper

>>167492854
>Why main shrine even need firekeeper?
You saw what happens when shrine doesn't have a firekeeper in untended graves.
Nobody left to tend to the central bonfire.
Nobody left to enhance the champion of ash so he can fulfil his duty.
If she saw age of dark, she would be tempted by it. And given her control over the flame, she is the one who can destroy the first flame.

>>167492873
sweet spot. A full WA did roughly 300ish. Can't be legit right?

>>167492993
>she is the one who can destroy the first flame.
My fucking sides
She couldn't even fully stop it in her own ending
And if I remember correctly you need to place coiled sword in the bonfire in the first place to even use it
And look at the Gundyr arena, there fire fucking everywhere, you know that shouldn't be in the "age of dark"? Fucking fire

>>167492687

There is still a question who "they" were, it feels like they mean Gwyn, Nito, the Witch and so on. But did this make them gods or were they already gods? Did it make them powerful "pretender" gods with Velka and such being "real" gods before them, or was Velka and such just an unmentioned part of Gwyn's crew?

>What did you mean by this?
Old Vampire RPG reference I think.

Caine being the first vampire

>>167492134
Armor is just for looks. The meta in that game was everyone buffs unless you are a vit gouge NR build. Look into talisman of beasts + cursed weapon. Also plan on using second chance.

And most importantly, Yurt is not your friend.

>>167493131
>She couldn't even fully stop it in her own ending
She did.
>And if I remember correctly you need to place coiled sword in the bonfire in the first place to even use it
So? Gundyr took it to serve as a noob filter.

>>167493089
What SL are you at? I've encountered similar things and I just assume it's due to defenses working very differently when it comes to players over anything else.

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Farming is so fucknig god awful. Even with stacking as much item discovery as possible, farming the covenant items requires you to get extremely lucky. 1 in 20 is considered lucky. And you need 30 of them.

This'd be fine if the covenants they were associated to weren't required for all the achievements, and you could actually get fucking summoned for Darkmoon/Farron.

>>167492963

That disabled the bonfire. One of many, and not the main flame. Imagine killing the fire keeper of the most important flame and in the very end of the age of fire.

She's one of the best waifus, too. All support waifus are great but in DS1 they split it between too many - The Fair Lady, the Darkmoon Knightess, and Anastacia.

>>167493201
120

>>167492963
well yeah, there was no firekeeper to keep the fire. same went for the fair lady and the darkmoon knightess. which makes me think that if you killed the fair lady, kirk should spawn as a spirit of vengeance instead of dark spirit. but then again, that's fancanon
>>167493159
>Caine being the first vampire
Oh, like spreading the trait without diluting it in himself, unlike the other lords? That's one way for humanity to work. What about the Antediluvian? First vampire to contract it from Caine or something?
>Velka and such being "real" gods before them, or was Velka and such just an unmentioned part of Gwyn's crew?
maybe she also found a lord soul
>>167493160
>Yurt is not your friend
Where's the "You have a heart of gold, don't come to the Nexus tomorrow

Sir Vilhelm's voice is a thing of beauty

do titles in latin come before or after the name

>>167493509
I loved Creighton's voice. He's just some balding shitty character that doesn't talk in 3 tho.

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>>167493509
I bet he trained that speech.
Kinda shame that when he dies after unsuccessful invasion, Friede just throws his body into a dump.

>>167493650
We're a Lord, why can't we hire him?

>>167493247
>Imagine killing the fire keeper of the most important flame and in the very end of the age of fire.
Most important flame didn't had fire keeper for the thousands years, worked fine without cheap waifu baits
Even Irina wasn't blind after becoming firekeeper
DaS3 firekeeper is useless garbage who's here only to give jap otakus cheap waifu to circlejerk about
Maiden in Black was old as fuck demon who was somehow trapped in the nexus and wanted nothing more than put old one back to sleep, her doormat personality came from the fact that she felt at fault for mess in the first place
EH was there to trick undead to link the flame, she skilfully used symptoms like losing memory to make adventures wanting to "become the king"
Doll was created as image of dear friend/lover of greatest hunter and her entire purporse was to serve new hunters
Das3 firekeeper - nothing, it's just "lol i'm so helpless feel good about being with me you strong otaku!!!", by the way we will retcon everything you knew about firekeepers because waifu should have important role! Like how about she will keep first flame?

>>167493628
Cr8 has more personality in DS3 than he ever had in DS2.
>angrily throws hunter charms and munches db
>invades you seeking revenge
>uses THE twink weapon

>>167493687
He wants that blackflame pussy.

>>167493719
I think you confuse personality with A.I. designed to rape you and that miracles NPC.

Imagine if they took Creighton's combat A.I. and added Grandpa's ability to parry rape players.

>>167493701
I think you're just projecting your intense adoration of the DaS3 firekeeper onto everyone else as if she is irresistible waifubait.

>>167493701
>Even Irina wasn't blind after becoming firekeeper
what? she's blind the whole game through and it's implied she lost sight during firekeeper training

>>167493701

Technically you could say Gwyn was the fire keeper, but also that the First Flame could tend itself while it was at its strongest. Now that it is embers and is dying no matter how many times it is kindled, a fire keeper is needed to tend the flame.

Either way absolutely nothing in the game suggests that the fire keeper is anything but benevolent. She even turns a blind eye to your betrayal and allows you to go through with it. Her purpose is to allow you to use sovereignless souls to empower yourself, her duty is to make sure you can complete yours.

>>167493701
Herald is fucking trash. She has no story significance, her appearance is dull, her dialogues are as empty as she is.
DS3 Firekeeper is a keystone for getting two endings which alone makes her way better.

>>167493485
>Oh, like spreading the trait without diluting it in himself, unlike the other lords? That's one way for humanity to work. What about the Antediluvian? First vampire to contract it from Caine or something?

Well it did dilute, each generation was weaker than the next, eventually running very thin and weak. Antedeluvians were the next generation after Caine.

>maybe she
Maybe, but there was no suggestion anywhere of a second. Though maybe there were others and only Gwyn & Friends decided to use the power to kill dragons and then "shift the age".

>>167493793
>Either way absolutely nothing in the game suggests that the fire keeper is anything but benevolent.
She ready to end age of fire

>>167480952
the female HEY xD! is a better taunt than point down ever was

>>167493775
>I think you confuse personality with A.I.
In case of invader NPCs those are very close things. Maldron has no VA in the entirety of DS2 for example, which doesn't stop him from being the best character in the game.

>>167493893
You're a strange one, anon.

>>167493839
How so? Because she's "lol cute"?
>her dialogues are as empty as she is.
Das 3 firekeeper dialogues are literally cheap fanservice that has reference to the maiden, doll and even eh dialogues

>>167493852
>Well it did dilute
you mean on others, I said on "him"self
>a second lord soul
there are 4 though

Does the Majula music make anyone else sad because it could have been a really good game but wasn't?

>>167493979
>Because she's "lol cute"?
Because she's the only person who can destroy the first flame.
The only person who constantly brings her appearance is you.
>Das 3 firekeeper dialogues are literally cheap fanservice
I take fancervice over the utter trash of herald's dull dialogues.

>>167494076
Dark Souls 2 is a really good game.
Just not a good Souls game.

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>the list of censored words
Holy fuck, who wrote this? It's a fucking goldmine
>"loltard"
>"gaydar"
>"pie"
>"tubgirl.com"
>"umfriend"
>"dork"

>>167494021
>you mean on others, I said on "him"self

>there are 4 though

Oh, quite right then. On both counts. Would have to rewatch DS1's intro but not sure it said there were explicitly only 4 Lord Souls.

>>167493893
But the AI defines the way a character works and in a sense, their behavior and personality. Which is why everyone comments how weird it is that Heysel attacks fellow invaders like it's personal

>>167494109
>I take fancervice
Typical das3 firekeeper fan

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>>167494232
>he actually plays in series built on fancervice from the ground while complaining about fancervic
Do you have brain damage?

>>167494076
sotfs was a great game

base dark souls 2 was bad

>>167494198
>not sure it said there were explicitly only 4 Lord Souls
it doesn't, but few things are said explicitly in dark souls. we've never had mention of lord souls other than the 4, even though it is never said there aren't
Im not implying Velka had a 5th lord soul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSzeDnHJm6I

>>167494340
>sotfs was a great game
It's worse than base DS2.
Reminds me of fan romhacks for old games.

>>167494201
That would have more to do with the programming. Invader A.I. isn't more intelligent than standard mob A.I., they just have different attacks and sometimes items to pull from. Pretty silly to say their A.I. gives them personality when it's more about trying to kill whatever is the closest.

I've used the swamps as a torture ground for invaders by baiting Gramps and Heysel into them. Gramps always wins.

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>>167493839
>her appearance is dull

>>167494409
fanart doesn't count
she looks painfully dull both in game and concept arts

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>>167494153
>cleveland
>clevelandsteamer
>clevelandsteemer
>cleavlandsteemer

>>167494153
is there a list for ds3 posted somewhere? I only looked at the ds2 one.

>>167494153
>the word "bisexual" is censored
TRIGGERED

>>167494465
My personal favorite is "nutnyamouth"

>>167494496
Here https://github.com/omgftw/DarkSouls3CensorCheck/blob/master/censorlist.js

The best part is that it's case sensitive, so you can use any of these if you put in capitals. You can also do a trick with a blankspace character between letters to let you do 'Knight' without 'nig' getting censored.

>>167494659
>a trick with a blankspace character between letters
How do you do that?

I've been seeing players with Knight instead of K***ht lately. I'm guessing the work around has become better known. In DS2 I just did the file swap to get rid of name censorship.

Fuckin DS2. I'm on level 138, marathoned the never NEVER-ending game yesterday, but for some reason can't kill Nashandra

>>167494659
what the fuck

who would even be able to come up with half these things?

>http://gematsu.com/2017/02/cyber-gadget-release-ps4-save-editor-march-japan
Soon.

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>farming swordgrass
>every single one of the very rare summons fail to invade

WHO THOUGHT MAKING THIS SHIT NECESSARY WAS A GOOD IDEA?

>>167494659
>"n.a.m.b.l.a."
????

>>167494834
>,"shemale"
seems reasonable to me

>"n.a.m.b.l.a."
>,"i like ass"
>"hand"
they hire a weird English company to make these.

>>167494893
you pray gammu ronger, no? means you rike gammu. stop comprainig pray gammu. arso, buy drc

>>167494659
>"toss salad"

>>167495005
pedophile group that south park referenced

>>167494659
>"rusty trombone "
>"snow"
>"strawberry shortcake "
>"tony danza "
>"white girl"