/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

The threads are dying.

The update is nowhere in sight.

Has the long winter of the before-times come upon us again?

/dfg/ has died. I feel nothing.

third for elv

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>>167357769
Like the forgotten beasts it's our cue to sink back into the earth and slumber while lesser generals frolick above

Is the rapist up to date with the current version?
Any idea when the next update will come?

>>167361890
No. Never.
Use dwarf manipulator through the current dfhack alpha.

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>>167362268

>>167362718
Bored full plate parkour dorfs.

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>>167362510
>dwarf manipulator
I guess it's better than managing several dozen dwarves through the vanilla UI

>>167363861
Also better than rapist faggotry.

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>>167346172
Thanks! Its all from imagination, but heavily inspired by the Gothic era and general high middle ages.

>>167363981
>dat dwarf waifu
You da best, Drew.

I'm thinking of starting my own multi-generation fort, never done it before, usually fuck the pooch after a couple decades or sooner. Even after 12 years the FPS can become unbearable like on my current large fort.

How long do your forts usually last? How long was the longest? (For modern bloatfort) how do you keep yourself occupied for so long?

>>167357569
When the fuck are they releasing a non beta version of DFHack for 0.43.05 64bit?

>>167365383
When enough people use the alpha and they are sure nothing else is broken enough to call it an official release?

You'll never notice it isn't a full release once you disable the pre-release warning.

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Cold Sleepy Day wut.

>>167369145
Why is Keep Man so amusing?

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Reminder that this is a dfhack thing now: http://pastebin.com/13EkrFt2

>>167370763
So this means you can have a map thing point you to quests?

>>167370861
Means you can point to the location on the //quest// log map and tele//port// there.

>>167371446
Seems a bit cheaty, but that's neat still.

>>167371506
Eh, I can walk across a world, and have, I know how to move myself around with gm-editor in travel mode but it's a matter of figuring out where this is:
x: 11385
y: 8932
z: 0

...and if this is where you want:
x: 5600
y: 2300
z: 0

It's handy but it's a fiddly pain, mostly just use it to hop rivers.

Being able to do it with the quest map is handy, call it an enchanted map you got from a wizard if you want, who are you cheating against?

>>167371863
fair enough

>>167371931
It's damn handy and really not even remotely cheaty in the situation when you unretire and all the map is black again, you can port around and reveal it again quickly without having to guess at coordinates.

>>167373683
Oh I primarily rely on legendsviewer to plan out my adventures. I barely rely on the in-game map.

>>167373796
Well, this makes it much handier than it was.

Hell I'll probably end up whipping up a Gate script to bundle with the KSBD mod to port you around to certain locations in the world with the relevant payment.

Is there any game like DF for Android?

>tfw I refuse to make worlds any younger than 800 years because I want my dragons to be full-size.

Fucking 1000 year growth rate. At least they start at like 200 years old.

>>167376751
Long history VS decent FPS

>>167378263
Luckily I'm an adventure mode only kinda guy so I barely feel FPS loss unless I'm in very specific situations.

>>167376751
Just mod the growth rate?

>>167379320
I tried to find it but couldn't. Well at least I know its a thing now. I'll probably find it in the next comb-over.

Has toady added a way to check size and sexual orientation yet? or is it still a rapist thing?

>>167369731
he is a true Blockhead

Speaking of modding, took me a while to realize tissue pain was defined in the raws. Fucking pansy ass dwarves fainting after having their hands smashed by a hammer.

So, what is needed to create a new race? I want to try to make orcs but not sure how to start besides copying and renaming goblins

I found a random pool of dwarven ale in the bottom of a cave, in the first cavern layer. I stepped in it and then drank it off my boot. And now I'm dizzy and my lung function is slightly impaired. I drank a lot of giant blood before this. I also just fought I giant olm, but he didn't land any hits on me. What's causing this? Giant olm poison? Dwarven ale contaminated by cave moss?

>>167380302
Also I'm wearing a giant olm bone ring that I just made. Could the bone be poisoning me?

>>167380302
Oh maybe it was just alcohol poisoning.

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>>167378382
>I'm an adventure mode only kinda guy

>>167382785
You heard me my dude

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>>167383031
Stop playing dorf

>>167383437
I play elv instead because they can be CUTE!

anyone play DF on Linux?
I've just been using wine to run it on OpenSUSE because its easier than the convoluted wank you need to do otherwise.

been thinking of replacing it with Ubuntu recently though because it has far more tech support info online than SUSE does and soon my linux machine will be my only computer for a while at least and I need it to be reliable.

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>>167379412
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:6000]
[BODY_SIZE:1000:0:25000000]
Make it like BODY_SIZE:200 or something and they'll be full grown at 200.

Wait, SUSE isn't THAT different as to not have a local version of df available, I mean, arch has a native version, and incidentally I highly recommend checking arch, the wiki is goddamn informative and though the boards are a bit assholish seeming it's partially because of "the arch way" which is basically "read the fucking manual" so they tend to cover damn near everything in anything that makes it to the official version (which is a rolling release) and usually any of the Arch User Repo (or aur) packages will be well documented too.

>>167383508

>>167384292
All right, got it.

>>167383903
Derped, meant this to reply to you: >>167384292 but I was jerking off to Arch instead. The only time my shit breaks is when I break it doing stupid shit and I've gotten good at fixing it when that happens, to the point of rebuilding my install completely from a command line back to my KDEfaggotry.

SUSE had so much stuff mixed in with the .rpm stuff from Fedora, I recall a local SUSE type of package management, and something else.

>>167384292
>>167384581
well I'm moving to SE Asia to work and want something very stable that I can easily fit if needed.
Arch is nice and I've used it before but its too much effort for my main work computer.

>embark next to volcano
>build floor out to the middle of it
>place caged cat on floor
>cave the floor in
>cat dies, doesn't reveal anything as his corpse travels down

Did toady fix this? It used to reveal the magma sea and some adamantine as the cat would stay alive. Can you kill things that are caged now?

>>167386253
This is some dwarfy shit I'll tell ya what

>>167386253
I think the cave-in might have screwed it up?

>>167385668
Well, a -buntu spin might work then, last one I messed with was actually Mint for the in-laws on their computer since they are from the "if it doesn't look like windows xp I'm lost" era, and Mint has some convenient xp style themes/setups so I could wean them away from shitbox decade old OSes.

>>167388661
I've used mint before and might go back to it because I liked Cinnamon more than Unity.

once I can ship my desktop over I'll be able to play around with less stable distros

Should I make quantum stockpiles or are they cheating?

>>167395373
Saving FPS by reducing item calculations in this day and age is no more a cheat than smashing garbage or dumping it into the magma sea is.

>>167383903
I play DF on linux. Playing it though Wine is fucking retarded. It runs with a single command on the Linux version

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A dumbass dwarf climbed on top of a wall and can't get back down, now he's wasting away. what do?

>>167396669
Upon further inspection, that is my dumbass mayor that got himself stranded .

>>167396408
What distro?

>>167397475
It plays on Arch, it shouldn't be too hard to get it running anywhere except like... Gentoo?

>>167396669
Point
Laugh
Appoint a new mayor

He can totally climb down, he's just pouting.

>captain of my crossbow squad scouts out a kobold thief
>instantly lets loose a bolt
>severs his hand

poetry.

>reacher
>can't reach you

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Well, there isn't nearly enough info on Servant races sadly so I went with trying to get them in a somewhat functional format, still gotta flesh out the whole "good at certain jobs" stuff, but right now I'm going with:

Goblins: not as goblin-like as you'd think if you were expecting df goblins, pretty sure they've got 4 eyes, will be the most common since they're everydamnwhere.
Kind People: the four-legged dudes with the broad heads and four eyes, Mammon is one.
Trolls: the big long-haired dudes you see in the background from place to place seemed trollish enough so I went with them.
Rootless: no clue at all, but the kinda mantis-like people are servants so I made these into a sorta mantis-person conversion for now. I'll work on getting the tasks/specialty stuff flesh out as I get the entities worked in more, but now is time for rest after all the research and fiddling around looking for that glorious moment when you load the arena and the errorlog.txt stays empty.

Naturally I'll need a fallback setup for the sense-creature icons for folks who don't want to use the tileset, but for now it's the 5 demon masks on the top, with demiurges on the right, un angel towards the lower middle, a master of cutting (and thus royalty) with her key lower left-ish, male/female humans (warm black flame=black smiley), and the four servant races (cool white flame=white smiley) above them.

>>167399339
>we arabian fort now

>>167399305
He did climb down after a while. Not before being driven to hunt for small creatures though.

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Fucking Rumrusher.

I wanted to be able to jump around like a ninjer weaboo faggit and started working on turning propel into launch, Rum added a way to fling people you are wrestling with, hilarious stuff.

Then they made a telekinesis version to fling items, but you gotta tab over to the terminal instead of using a hotkey, neither of us could figure that out, so they found a way to kinda kick an item out from under you towards the cursor.

Works on minecarts too, but it might end up leading to some sort of eldritch horrors noticing due to the weird way it fucks with the universe itself.

>Hello me, always a pleasure to speak with you again.
>Ah, and how are you today, me?
>I'm ok, though I'm about to end up bashing us into a wall.
>Oh dear, that's awful.
>Yes, terribly sorry about this.
>Well, talk to you again later!

>>167402995
this post is trippy as fuck

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>>167403156
So is noticing you are following yourself, and then being unable to figure out which you is you without actually checking which one gets the look cursor when you hit the key, or wiping out and trying to go catch your cart only to... almost hit yourself as you slide along the ground while walking at the same time?

>>167369145
>cathedral man
>keep man
>bell man
...
>twat!

Brilliant Drew, don't know why you did any of those, but brilliant.

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>>167403318

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>>167403989
>ruhroh raggy, the ruzz!
>like whoa Scoob, I think the fuzz might be us!
>rhoa...

If I make a hole from my river to the caverns will it drain at the edge or flood the entire thing?

>>167404783
If the edge has a tile a unit could enter/leave through it'll drain there, you can also smooth and carve a fortification into a wall to drain off the edge of the map.

>>167404429
>>167403318
>>167402995
What the fuck

>>167404914
nice. bery nice

thanks

>>167405212
What the fuck indeed.

At one point in the water there were two of me following me, but you couldn't see it well since they were all blue.

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>kea stole [ARTIFACT]

>>167405932
>df 2026
>be necromancer in tower
>keaman sends his kea friends to steal your necro book
>keaman is now necromancer

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fucking dorfs
when will they learn

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>>167407245
>Toady in charge of AI

>>167407245
Was there booze/a water area?

Played DF for years now, always aching to get back but I get bored after three or four years. How do I start enjoying the game again?

>>167408817
>want to dorf
>cand dofr

eeeeeeeeryy tieeem D:

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>>167406496
>DF 2026
>procedurally genned secrets
>complete a quest for your god
>gifted a slab
>You have learned the secrets of flight and theft!
>become Urist McShitbird, Keamancer

>>167408817
That thing you do in the game that is boring? Do something else.

>>167364810
Mega Projects. Adamantine Industry.
Increasingly elaborate death traps for useless, FPS-eating dorfs.

Dear /dfg/,

today i learned that bridges are a cheap and effective alternative to floors if one is building high walls.
I also learned that maybe i should have more than one architect on duty while i watched several stuck dwarves starve because i'm too lazy to build and unbuild staircases for them all.

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>>167408817
>wants dorf
>actually doesn't want dorf
hmm, thought provoking

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I forgot that I had pulled those levers. At least the bugbats left.

>bloodstone
>can't feed vampires

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Give me some ideas on how to design a minecart meatgrinder which my dwarves can ride while shooting bolts and swinging axes. I need to blast some eurobeat while goblins get styled on.

>diorite
>can't stop time

>>167415536
www.isthatajojoreference.com

>>167415536
4/10

made me get-the-reference, but didn't make me laugh

>167416198
>167417647
I-it's not like I was trying my b-best or anything, you bakas.

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>>167418438
>not even giving (You)s for the honest critique
Put the (You)s in the bag, Urist-senpai.

>>167418712
It's ok friend, I'll (You) you :)

>>167416198
>>167417647

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>want to make a monster hunter mod
>too lazy to play monster hunter and learn about the monsters

>>167420067
Make some other mod instead.
>tfw you'll never get a strange mood and make a useless mod

>>167420846
you should go on strange moods every time you build a fort

the situation with DF players lately is pathetic, back in my day we were all hairy manlets, living in a dark room, constantly drinking while playing

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Who will win, a grizzly bear, or four crundles? The winner gets to fight a troll.

>>167421394
I've been doing that but I only started df in December so the aesthetics of my forts are yet too disgusting to justify posting images here.
Also I was drunk df posting just last weekend.

>>167421819
I bet 10 plump helmets on Bear

>>167421838
I'm a 149 cm manlet with long hair and a beard almost touching my belly, everytime I play dwarf fortress I wear my custom chainmail and helmet, and also drink my mushroom scented beer, the rest of my time is spent shaping rocks into rings and pendants, reading about metals and eating rare varieties of meat such as crocodile and elephant. My room has a great amount of fungus growing, rats and some crawlers I capture with traps, the floor has tape markings in a 3x3 fashion, which is the absolute best room size. I'm also working on replacing my door with a stone one or a drawbridge

a shame the lesser players can't enjoy this level of immersion

>>167357769
Yep

>>167421838
You should post fort anyway. Constructive criticism is a good thing. And unconstructive mocking might at least motivate you to improve.

>>167421819
crundles are amazingly weak
I bet the bear

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>>167422148
Expectedly, the crundles got butchered 1 by 1 as they all ran from the bear. Now, how do I avoid the troll immediately going for my masterwork wall grates when I release him in with the bear? I'm not too good at the live captive thing.

>>167376751
I just realized I never fought a full-sized dragon

Shit

>>167422708
Are grates destroyable by trolls? I expect he'll not be able to knock them down by the time the bear mauls him. Also, Betting 20 plub Hepls on the Bear

>>167422803
me neither
makes me a bit depressed, never seen a Dragon or even a cave dragon in all their terrible majesty

there's a zombie dragon in my current world but I'm unsure if they get that big once zombified

>>167422708
If the bear will actually attack it then it won't waste time on the grates. It will either fight back or run. Wild trolls are in a strange place regarding hostility right now, though, so the bear might not fight it.

>>167422803
>>167422964

I just mod it so they grow in 100 years or so, I like the 1000 years thing but it doesn't work well in this point of the game yet.

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>>167422967
>>167422958
The troll punched the bear in the gut and made him uncontrollably vomit. Eventually the bear charged the troll, which knocked him over and stunned him. The bear used the opportunity to retreat, and they've not gone back at it yet. If I had to put my money on the rematch though, I think the troll will win.

>>167423614
Fuck reading this i'm getting flashbacks to the tourney last year.

TOURNEY-ANON PLEASE COME BACK

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>>167412768
Ha ha whoops, magma everywhere, my bad folks!

>>167415536
>You thought it was iron ore, but really it was me, Diorite!

>>167422803
Reminded me of the scaled creature graphics in AV, Japa is like "hey, here's some fbs and demons" which means they use the default icons, cause what is worse than a ten meter tall mantis looming over you?

A faceless one which still gives the impression it is staring at you, yay!

>>167424564
As an update, they did start fighting again and the bear absolutely fucked up the troll, but there was never anything more than minor injuries to either party. I'm not sure either one is even capable of killing the other. They fight for like 3 pages and then over exert themselves and collapse, afterwards they just fuck off and lick their wounds. I think the bear is bugged though, as the only thing he does is scratch. If he could actually bite, I think he'd win handily.

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>>167363981
>Its all...heavily inspired by the Gothic era and general high middle ages
>Drew's picture is clearly depicting a contemporary scene
>pic related also by Drew clearly depicts a scene resembling the 19th or early 20th century
Hm.
>>167369145
>cathedral head
>keep man
>stained glass face
>bell headed giraffeman?
>who knows what that is next to the giraffebellman
Ok, yeah, Drew's off his meds or something.

>>167425306
Yeah, if the bear just got in a bite-and-shake the troll would go down. Conversely, is the troll goring the bear at all? That'd deal some damage.

horse armour DLC when?

>>167426329
Well, you can mod horse men into the game, then get your dwarves to craft armour into horse man sized armour. So... it depends on you.

>>167425597
He just punches the shit out of him and bruises the fat. This last fight the bear kept scratching the troll in his eyes, so the troll missed nearly all his attacks. Were trolls ever able to use their tusks to gore things?

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>>167425365
Eh, think he's just an urge to draw weird little dog and rat people and dorfs going OOOOH, if he's off his meds now, he's been off them for a while.

>>167426495
I've definitely been gored by a troll, in both adventure mode and fortress mode.

>>167426329
That requires playable mounts first.

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>settle in savage jungle
>basic fort set up, fairly plain looking but get first industries up and running before I decide what I want to do with this fort.
>decide I'm going to make a "themed" fort
>see elephants so I decide I'm going to make an Indian theme fort. breed a massive army of them to demolish my foes.
>start organizing my dwarves by caste, and building a larger more well planned fort deeper underground.
>lower castes have to live closer to the surface
>untouchables live in the sun like elvs, in disgusting rotting communal shacks behind the walls, they deal with cleaning waste and hauling in the fortress.
>peasants/serfs live in the soil and mud, they farm day and night and live in the old dormitories of the original temp fort. beyond farming the deal with general agricultural stuff like processing plants and caring for animals.
>craftsmen and merchants live in the mid stone levels, they handle the bulk of the industry and crafting but none of the truly important stuff for me, they have private (small) rooms with basic furniture
>artisans (highly skilled in important jobs) and career military men live in a cleared out space within the 2nd cavern, a large secured expanse complete with manicured fungal-moss gardens, a lake for casual fishing and recreation, a pub, a temple, and private houses like some quaint subterranean suburb.
>the nobility lives deep in the earth, just above the 3rd cavern with windows and waterfalls from the aqueducts draining, overlooking the expanse and adamantine mines
>the Maharaja and his family lives below all that, in a massive temple-palace complex with rivers of magma flowing through to provide an eerie light and testament to his authority, as well as a pack of giant tiger bodyguards.

social planning in DF is a lot of work but pretty fun,
only issue is some farmer pleb got elected mayor.

>>167426329
Animal armor DLC when? Animal care-taking isn't coming any time soon so that would be the next best thing.

>want to carve a nice fort
>always some conglomerate or other brown garbage
>completely ruins the gray/white tone
>now have to dig it out which will ruin the aesthetics

it's like going at a cute, pale blonde and find a piece of turd hanging from her ass

>>167428407
Depending on who you ask that might make her look better

>>167428407
First thing that popped in my head was Early Cuyler and his "Sugar, I'd suck a fart outta your seat cushions!" hat...

>tfw no gf to to tell me she wants my plump helmet in her dimple cup

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mother FUCKER

Just mined into a hollow adamantine tube. I didn't even know they could be hollow. All my dwarf niggers are still wearing steel. If I construct a floor over the hole, can the demons break it? Not even a hatch, just a floor.

>>167430041
If you can get it floored over in time, best bet is slap a hatch in place, while the demons break it, block off the upper fort and pray nigga.

>>167430113
>while the demons break it
You do realise that hatches can't be destroyed from below, don't you?

A hatch will hold the demons back forever, assuming you've locked it.

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>>167429886
"M-maybe I can be your gf, Anon. P-please be gentle, I'm just a little tadpole."

>>167408817
Like >>167409623 said, do everything unusually. Try to play with a way different style than your usual routine, perhaps theme it around something, like a premise of a sort.

Mods are also useful in keeping things fresh until a new update.

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>>167425365
>its all heavily inspired by the Gothic era and general high middle ages

Guy has always been nuts.

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First I was like

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>>167432592
But then I

>>167430292
Oh yeah, that's right, derped, though I'd make sure it's fireproof, if some of the fire types are next to it they might burn it, but I can't remember for sure if that was just magma contact or general fire proximity which damages them.

>>167432592
>>167432773
Is the first one Tarn's or Zach's?

>>167433585
Probably Tarn. The idea that Zach wrote it is probably just wishful thinking from someone who wants Toady to be "one of us".

>>167434494
Eh, I don't think Toady knows much about politics besides the annoying tendency people have to keep electing that one moron who mandates earring production and bans earring exports.

bum

Toady where update dood?

toady is a raging nazi he keepts hetler pictures in his wallet and calls scamps fullër or so i heard

>>167437387
5 months

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>embark in the middle of 10 gobbo towers
>civ screen says we're at war
>3 years later
>nothing

>>167434494
>>167433585
R E M E M B E R

if the phrase has a '' ! '' at the end, its zach, period

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>>167439486
This one, too?

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>>167403841
Thanks, it is one of those stupid moments of what would architecture men look like.

>>167425365
Don't know why I said that, must of been on crack.
I should of said History.

On that note, free of work. So does anyone need anything drawn?

>>167427492
Pretty cool desu, post pics if you get the chance

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>>167439669
Well, there was my absurd moment of a naked woman with one metal arm crying while she beats another naked crying woman with her own burning arm as our sweat and blood boils around us... because it was the first way to test if I had all the tissues made out of steel correctly (the first try the fingers were flesh and bone still) but I'm drawing a blank otherwise.

>>167430041
>not creating a lock system to the adamantine mine beforehand
You deserve it

>>167439669
It's clear what you meant; I was just messing with you.

>>167439603
You do know the "SAD!" at the end of that is fake, don't you? The real version is shown at >>167432773

>>167430292
I doubt he will have enough time to even get one in place

Is there anything cool to do with rabbits on embark? It feels like they're the least useful domestic animal by far, barring cavy pigs.

How do you usually generate your worlds?
Just random until you get a "good" one or with advanced gen or some tool.

Which biomes do you like to settle in the best?

>>167441169
No
They're only really good for pets but even then they are worthless
At least cats and dogs can work

>>167441253
I use advanced gen when I want to make a world I'll use multiple times. If i'm just gonna fuck around i'll make a quick world.

>>167441253
hitting random just works
all i need is mountains next to a desert
because fuck trees

>>167428407
That's what floors and walls are for

>>167441623
That's what I meant.

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>>167434494
That's not really my mindset behind it, it's just that I didn't think Toady was the kind of guy to even care about that thing. Either way, I'm not all "wtf i hate toady now" or I'd have to hate about half of the people in this country.

Also, when (if at all) is there gonna be another one of those donator animals thing?

>>167442420
>donator animals
huh?

>>167442507
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/sponsor.html
This thing.

>>167439669
I would love to see an OOOOH of one of my dwarves climbing around on the outside of Relicwebs like >>167362718. That one is climbing around over a 36z drop to the lake, but there have been a ton of incidents like that and there are a ton of windows and rooms completely open to the outside at many altitudes in the cliff face, so anything you draw will probably be pretty close to something that actually happened here.

>>167442507
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/sponsor.html

>>167442687
This.

>>167442420
>Also, when (if at all) is there gonna be another one of those donator animals thing?
IIRC, Toady mentioned that there won't be another one because of the effort required that stalled development so much.

I saw Page 10 attack /dfg/ once. It was terrifying.

>>167443035
I hope not. There are tons of redundant creatures now. I don't really mind it, the variety is nice even if it's just cosmetic, but I think there is such a thing as too much variety, and DF is perched very uncomfortably on that slope in this regard.

>>167445017
A fearsome beast is threatening our people, you can find /dfg/ in the hills of page 10.

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>>167445130
I agree, it's not really necessary, and more importantly, I think it would be a lot more beneficial to add meaningful interactions in between species (such as predator-prey behavior) and between the environment and various species (grazing, nest building, etc)

>yfw an foxhole accidentally penetrates your defenses and a goblin invasion can circumvent your death traps

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>>167446069

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>>167446069
After the kill.

>>167446069
I like seeing full ecosystems, not like rimworld were it's always the same handful of creatures
Though you're right we have a ton already where most are just space filler
Animal men as well
I'd like to see more attention given to animal/animal men
Maybe more "natural" so while they're spawned so they hunt and feed like real creatures

And animal men "civilizations" could use some work, maybe give them actual little villages and a way for your fort to interact with them if they're friendly
Maybe even adopt them like human civs do sometimes

>>167446069
Or would be cool if some animals could possible burrow into your fort which would allow invaders in, so you'd need to exterminate them from the area

>>167443035
>>167445130
>>167446069
All very fair points, I suppose you could always just mod some more in. I think there was a project doing just that, but it died

>>167447239
>Or would be cool if some animals could possible burrow into your fort which would allow invaders in, so you'd need to exterminate them from the area
Yeah, that's what I meant actually.

>>167446676
>>167446470
I was thinking more along the lines of resulting dynamics, like population cycles, and necessity to hunt for food (or find grazing grounds) not just a simple hostility flag.
>>167446805
>animal men "civilizations" could use some work
In my opinion the problems with animal civs, FB's, were-beasts, giant/men variants, vampires and undead are all the same: their ridiculous abundance makes them really mundane. If they would exist in much lower numbers and not in every world, encountering any of those would be much more interesting instead of being just another day-to-day mechanic.

As one of DF's strength is its emergent storytelling, I feel that this is an important point.
A vampire in your fortress doesn't make a very interesting story if it happens to every player every goddamn fortress, often multiple times.

Although I have high hopes that the myth generation will allow us to easily not only set the degree of "supernatural-ness" but also the frequency of such supernatural occurrences for a given setting.
So you can decide between "slightly supernatural - commonplace" and slightly supernatural - very rare".

where the fuck is my sex mod

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>>167440330

This is weird.

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>>167448913
You really need to stop drawing cute girls. Otherwise, at this rate it's another six months and I'll be fapping to drew DF-fanart

>>167447394
I remember that. The ark project or something?

>>167450019
sauce pls

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>>167448913

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My gila monster man was a bit of a disappointment. How am I supposed to wipe out the last bastion of dwarven civilization in this pocket world for scientific purposes if even multiple doses of venom have no discernable effect? I guess I'll try a teenage? mutant? assassin? desert tortoise man next.

>>167442687
You know, you might want to submit Relicwebs to the bug tracker, given how your dwarves seem to climb around in it to such an unreasonable degree.

>>167445130
>>167446069
>>167446805
I agree entirely. We need quality more than quantity, and quantity of species makes it more difficult to improve quality. I honestly wouldn't have minded if instead of adding lots of real world plants and animals Toady had made all the flora and fauna somewhat divorced from reality but with much more developed characteristics and interactions.

>>167448158
I'm hoping that the fantasy slider will be a lot more complicated than just a one-dimensional slider of "more fantasy" or "less fantasy" since nobody's going to agree on exactly what that would mean. It's a good point you make about frequency and overabundance though, except that I think I disagree about giant animals. I think it makes enough sense for certain parts (and ONLY certain parts) of the world to be chock full of terrifying beasts, so long as it's something special about that place and not something that can be easily tamed or exported. But yeah, for the most part, encountering a lot of things like FBs shouldn't be so routine as it generally is right now. It's kind of ironic that "forgotten" beasts being so common have gotten some people to FORGET that megabeasts, titans, etc are technically different, calling them all forgotten beasts.

When is toady going to give a fuck about sieges? Right now I've got my drawbridges down with a clear path into my fortress that is full of fat juicy dwarves and these goblin invaders are just wandering around where they came in at, soon to wander off the edges never to be seen again I'm sure. I could send my militia after them, but that defeats the entire fucking point of the fortress.

>>167451228
>you might want to submit Relicwebs to the bug tracker
I plan to at some point. There is a lot of weirdness with the extreme verticality of the map, although the climbing is probably the worst of it. I have a whole folder full of saves to demonstrate one bug or another, but they're poorly labelled and it will be a lot of work to figure out what's what and make good reports for them. Plus I don't want to put Relicwebs "out in the wild" before it's ready. There's stuff going on that I've never posted that will be more fun for you guys to explore if it isn't spoiled before I offer up the save.

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>>167448913
Weirrd but you're a bro!

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This is it bois, the moment I've been waiting a few real life days for. I finally got sieged and he goblins finally decided to stop chasing random capybara and pay attention to my dorfs. Going to hammer the fuck out of all the other marksdwarves that didn't join their lone brother in the tower to take potshots at the gobbos, but my melee dudes should fare just fine regardless.

>>167457467
Sexy marksdorf gangbang.

Slap a Brazzers logo on that screenshot and you're good to go!

>>167454098
wat this from?

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>a fucking elf leading a goblin siege

>>167459543
http://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/kill-six-billion-demons-chapter-1/

Enjoy, also working on a mod of it for df.

>>167460184
I was just thinking the other day how cool angels would be in DF. How is it going?

>>167460281
There are already angels in Dwarf Fortress. http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Angel

>>167460870
Angels in that series are a lot different from typical angels, and also angels in DF

>>167460281
Getting the creatures in has been tricky since a lot of the information simply isn't available, I've got the main races though, a framework to build on for devil binding, crazy swordsmanship, and goddammit the angels are fucking terrifying as shit to fight. Like seriously fuck that shit.

Pretty sure I'll be able to get each demiurge to take over their own civ via the [POWER] tag and lining up spheres, I'll mix the different races around to get a varied world that way.

Still need some of the flavor stuff for the demiurge abilities, and figuring out how to get it fully set up with a playable fort mode at some point.

I'll probably try to get some of the other important devils and angels in as semimegas for additional flavor.

I'm pretty sure I can get the devil binders AND art of cutting practitioners to go around teaching their secrets and setting up towers properly, so that's nice.

Still wanna get keys that can be linked to companions/stolen/etc, but thankfully the entity and interaction stuff will just build on a lot of the creature work I did already.

>>167457467
Lost a human spearman because he jumped down off the wall and was immediately swarmed by ~30 melee goblins. A goblin hammer dude kept smacking him in the upper arms which was only being protected by a cloak since I never saw a message saying his chain mail deflected anything, despite wearing masterwork large steel chainmail. After he got hit with two paralyzers and dropped his shield and spear, he lasted till the end of the battle as his armor deflected nearly everything, but he bled out before he could make it back to the hospital. One of my axedwarves followed him off the wall though and was only surrounded by a few goblins, prompting him to enter a martial trance and turn into a whirlwind of gore and severed limbs. Alas, he could not save his human friend.

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>>167461393
Shoulda been un angel.

>>167461141
Quite, here's the devils, four servant castes, human male/female, plus the swordswoman caste called fools, and a master fool, called a destroyer, the demiurges, and an angel.

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>>167462357
...here it is like five seconds after unpausing.

The smoke is due to devil blood, you get it on you, it burns. Sadly the cold white flame doesn't cause frostbite as quickly as I'd hoped, probably gonna have to add a syndrome to do that.

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Yoh how the hell are people able to decipher what the fuck their dwarves are doing by looking at wing dings and numbers?

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Elves have a funny way of dressing their walrus men.

>>167462357
>>167462508
How did you spawn angels in the arena?

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>>167462637
You know how in Naruto that fagnut Saucegay got the Eye of the Jew and could see Jewtsu and whatnot?

We've got the Eye of the Tard.

>>167462508
>Forgot the human destroyer would spam my interaction that removes [CAN_LEARN] to make corpses usable
>it also adds anger and hate emotional states
>turned out metal as fuck

>>167441169
Add [TRAINABLE] to the raws > let them breed in a cage > unleash the horde

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>>167462940
They aren't vanilla angels, none of those are vanilla critters, the humans are vaguely similar to df humans, but that's about it.

The angel there is one of these fuckers from this image: >>167454098

The G, I, J, J, M, M, S on the right of this image: >>167462357
are the seven here.

>>167463004
>1
Teach me how to be on the spectrum senpai

>>167463325
First you've got to find a family of autists descended from the rival to ninjajesus, then have your brother kill them or some shit and take his eyes, then be a sappy emo dick to everyone.

>>167462845
That is one that needs to be drawn, LIGHT THE DREW SIGNAL!

>*a catapult is loaded with a bound and gagged elf, pleading eyes looking for any who might help*
>*then a dorf drops a torch on them and fires the catapult*
>*elf hurtles through the air, screaming briefly, before slamming into a tree and setting it on fire*
Shit, thought that would play out differently.

Ded thred, Ted
>>167462637
Ever watch The Matrix? It's like that. Eventually you don't see numbers and ASCII, you just see dorf, goblin, cavy boar...

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>>167466198

>>167466669
Too late do I remember that kids are also red, though it's a darker red... but it was supposed to be a human in a red dress.

>>167466791
suuure

>>167467182
Dammit I bit my cheek earlier and laughing hurts, fuck you man!

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>>167440648
cool man.
>>167442687
have not drawn Relicwebs before, hope this is about what you wanted.

>>167464013
will try something.

>>167451228
No I like quantity
And the majority of the animals in DF don't need any attention since they're just ecosystem filler

Most of the basic herbivores and generic critters are fine as is

>>167462357
I assume the fools and master fools are based on Meti, Maya and their ilk? This is pretty great so far, eager to see what becomes of it.

>>167466791
It could be a macewoman.

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>>167464013
>>167462845
Unrealistic Beauty standards.

Is there a working graphics pack for the newest version?
Ascii is a little hard on the eyes.

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>>167469857
Yar, since only a fool would learn the ways of the sword, but women are traditionally the best at the sword so it's a human female caste with the extra maybe sword limbs so they can just fling out flurry of death attacks.

You could hack off all four limbs at damn near the same time, but since I made them small/internal they aren't targetable/visible, which is great.

Only thing that scares me when I'm running around as a fully skilled up destroyer is an angel, they're still a really fucking tough fight since the blades keep skittering off their armor.

Also going to play with stuff like having the criminal guilds basically run some of the sites.

>>167468457
>>167469996
Awesome.

>>167469987
Needs the little bars over the top though.

Bampu!

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>>167376751
>>167422803
>>167422964
The first poster has it right and the other two are seriously missing out. Lemme tell y'all why dragons are objectively the best and scariest (from an in-character perspective) megabeasts in the game.


Rocs are nothing but overgrown birds that mature at 20 years and are subject to all the failings of any animal.

Bronze Colossi are strong, but they were formed that way in the beginning of the world and will never grow again. Their substance can only be chipped away, never replaced.

Hydras are formidable, but the severing of a single head can do great damage to the whole, and they are far smaller than other megabeasts as well.

But dragons are something else. First off, you must understand that Dwarf Fortress dragons are not traditional dragons. They breathe fire and are reptilian, yes, but they have no wings. They are lumbering, quadrupedal hulks of scale and incredibly dense muscle that tower over everything. But the intimidating thing is, this doesn't happen overnight. To quote the wiki:

>At 23 years, a dragon is the size of a giant cheetah.
>At 100 years, a dragon is the size of a draltha.
>At 200 years, a dragon is the size of an elephant.
>At 320 years, a dragon is the size of a hydra.
>At 800 years, a dragon is the size of a bronze colossus or an adult roc.

Thereafter, a dragon is the largest predator found on land.

If you see an adult dragon, then you are looking at an organism that grew to full strength over the course of a thousand agonizingly slow years, each one having been filled with brutal warfare, questing knights, and battles with other gigantic monsters. This monstrosity has survived it all and has amassed a kill count along the way that goes well into the hundreds. And now you, a mere mortal man who perhaps has a handful of friends to support him, is staring it right in the face.

Really, what makes you think you'd ever stand a chance?

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>>167471976
>graphics pack

>>167477791
Because I walked in on some assholes talking about some fucking ring, grabbed an axe off a dwarf, a shield from one of the humans, and now I'm good to go!

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>>167477791
I agree that the 1000 year growth rate is a good thing, shortening it just seems kind of lame and ruining the entire magic of the Dragon.

but they are "traditional" dragons, not every dragon has wings.

for some reason cave dragons do though

is Linux DF easier on the CPU for better FPS?
I imagine it would be not having as much weight from the OS

>>167478406
>for some reason cave dragons do though

Funny that.

You know, the dragon pic I included actually has some significance in regards to that. He was the antagonist of a children's book in which most dragons were winged. He was much bigger than them and had no wings, and wished to devour them all. The winged dragons stood no chance against his strength, and so all they could do was hide in the far reaches of the world, hoping they wouldn't be found.

One could surmise that a similar event occurred within the universe of Dwarf Fortress. In a time before time, the winged dragons were driven far under the ground but their larger, meaner cousins, and atrophied into the cave dragon we see today.

>>167478141
Stop burning churches

>>167479595
maybe, they are significantly more common
or maybe the underground is just a much more fruitful habitat with far fewer dangers beyond the odd Forgotten Beast
I think they were probably just dragons who would nest in caves and eventually became fully subterranean

>>167477791
Hydras should be like they're in DCSS where if they're hit with a bladed non-flaming weapon such as an axe or a sword a head is cut off and two more grow in its place.

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Some nobles are less demanding than others.

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"Congratulations! You are now part of the fortress militia!"
"But I'm a novice grower, I have no idea how to fight"

"That's why we have the state of the art training facilities..."
"Well, I guess a little military experience wouldn't hurt."
"...such as this Danger room."

"the what-room?"

*klik*

>>167480009
>I think they were probably just dragons who would nest in caves and eventually became fully subterranean

Except that doesn't explain why they have wings and the surface ones didn't.

>>167480928
>the force bends the x, tearing the muscle! x99
>an y has been torn! x99
>Urist, recruit has bled to death

>>167473598
I assume with the destroyer's natural aptitudes and "invisible blades" you can make full use of the multi-attack system and cut down many foes in one go?

>>167482868
there are more cheesemakers and growers where that came from

>>167482936
I implied that joint damage has made danger rooms completely useless. Sparring is where it's at.

>>167482874
Quite, angels do the same, but they use hands and headbutts and elbow/knee strikes and kicks.

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Dang slow ass night.

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>>167485578
But Anon, it's 10 in the morning.

>>167485807
Then who was phone last night?

Multiplayer online battle arena Dwarf Fortress when?

Got caught in a web in adventure mode, what do?

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>>167486337
don't worry, there's nothing you CAN do

>>167486356
Just lie a fire under myself and waited it out a few turns. I wonder if there's any spiders around

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>>167486406
I tried the same thing, it doesn't work.

Also fun to know: booze will not put you out if you are on fire, don't ask me why I tried it, but now we know, and knowing is half the battle.

The other half is violence.

G.I. Jooooeeeeeee....

>>167486531
Got caught in a few more webs after, it seems like you just have to wait a few turns by pressing '.'

dorf ponos in elf vagoo when?

>>167486795
elf penus in dorf gabagool when?

Lads, I love the basic ASCII graphics, but the unit description screens hurt my eyes with the white on black text. Can anyone rec me a good colour scheme that's easy on the eyes?

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>>167487067
dorf gibberslappens in human topannisoons where?

>>167486686
Yeah, I was being attacked by a spider when I tried it, then I figured out to light the moss under the SPIDER on fire.

>>167487240
How did that go?

>>167487434
Lighting the spider on fire worked much better, I should have tried that first.

How do I pull a branch from a tree, I did it an hour ago and I can't remember how anymore.

>>167490262
found it, you just [g]et them. Me tired

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>>167487240
>dat pic

Fuuug my sides..

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>>167490502
I wouldn't call the industries described in the pic as overly complicated.

First, all of them follow a pretty simple logic, and just a vague understanding of how things are made IRL should make it easy to produce them in the game. On the most basic level, every person with a working brain should know that wooden items are made by carpenters in any pre-industrial society. The division between masonry/carpentry and stonecrafting/woodcrafting is a bit more arbitrary, but it's not that important to learn early on.

Second, half of the things mentioned aren't necessary to set up a working fort. They're comfy additions when you manage to set up their respective industries, but nothing a new player has to drop the game in frustration over. Glass is a perfect example of this. We generally make glass windows because they're comfy, not because they're useful (even though they have some practical uses). The only thing that you absolutely need glass for is aquariums, and even those are a luxury that a fort will do just fine without.

Pic related is my next megaproject, by the way. It's a shame that ville contemporaine and ville radieuse never became reality, but we should at least be able to realise Corbusier's dream in DF.

BEGONE PAGE 10

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>>167492785
Welp, time to play DF AGAIN..

I hate you, anon.

>Nish Ustuthduthal, Leatherworker has created Eshimatast, a pig leather armor!
>Tosid Sengbomrek, Farmer created Bardummerrang, a mule bone mace!
You dumb fuck could've atleast made a bone warhammer.
Does a bone mace have any use at all besides being a fancy badge of office?

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>>167495745

lmao it doesn't even have graphics
just buy a good computer anon and play an actual game wow

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>>167497162

so... it's a game about letters and numbers

>>167497061
>being this much of an autist

>>167497162
Hey man, I play real games too, I was playing

Wait no I don't play games, not even DF

Shit

>DF is just a bunch of characters shining on the screen

god damn I had never realized how much of a hack toady is, and he gets thousands in donation for this shit

>>167480928
>*klik*
Yeah, and guns make *brappa* right?

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>>167498472

bumpalma

>>167427492
Just assassinate him.

3, 5 or 7 wide? which is best corridor?

>>167501674
depends on where.

my procession streets are always 7 or wider. smaller corridors vary between 2-3.

Just tried to start again with DF. Took me 5 minutes to edit the ini files, colors, font. Another 5 minutes for worldgen settings. And now i'm already waiting an hour or something for worldgen... Year 386 / 1000.

Meanwhile: Anyone got an interesting FB to draw?

So is meph dead or what?

>>167498682
Toady is an artist and national treasure you scum

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>>167502475
>meph dead
Thank you, based God

>>167502652
>guy that only crime is that he made some shitty mod
>thank god that he is dead

Carefull with that edge, you scare the children.

>>167501674
3 and 2

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>>167502769
no, he's shitting up the modding community by making all modders work for him for free, while he's getting big donation shekels. modders don't dare to say no to him, because they know that 99% of all players just download his pack under the assumption that "all important mods are there".

it's unclear what he even needs all the money for, considering that he said in an AMA that comes from a rich family and makes big money leasing out family owned flats.

he also has the nerve to beg his players for money to pay for his psychotherapy after having a mildly bad time on one of his numerous luxury vacations.

meph is pure human filth.

>>167503194
>wishing death on anyone that isn't terrorist or some homicidal fucktard

As i said - carefull with that edge.

>>167503431
>defending a ruthless capitalist who monetises on someone elses free game
careful with your own edge, Rand

>>167503194
What was on the harddrive?

>>167503560
Tranny porn

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>>167503505
You are free to do the same.
Modding is free after all.
People wilingly give him their mods andf support, no one is forcing them with gun against their heads.
Your jelly is showing.

>>167503560
bacon slices

>>167501674
>7 wide
Multitile creatures aren't in yet m8

>>167503560
he gets money from sponsors who pay him to use their stuff when he travels. one condition for these sponsorships is that he keeps some kind of log or blog where he uploads photographs he took at different locations.

I guess he just lost some of those photographs.

according to a popular rumour, all his masterwork stuff was on the drive, severly delaying the next release. I haven't found any proof for this, though.

>>167503817
>he gets money from sponsors who pay him to use their stuff when he travels
Wtf? Why is a modder having sponsors? I mean DF isn't THAT popular, is it?
>according to a popular rumour, all his masterwork stuff was on the drive
Why would he carry his own backup with him on vacation? And why would he cry over lost work?

Not intending to be edgy, but this guy really sounds like a massive faggot.

>>167503748
>all critisism can be dismissed a priori as jealousy
nice fallacy.

I have no reason to feel jealous, as I've never worked on a full scale mod. I have, however, seen promising mods die too soon because of lacking attention from the bay12 userbase.

>>167504082
he doesn't have sponsors as a modder.

he has this gimmick where he goes bicycling around the world (essentially perpetual vacationing). he gets sponsored for that.

he's known to constantly mix up his roles as a "world bicyclist" and a modder, and often uses mod donation money to pay for his trips (he said it on an AMA). and like I said above, when he got robbed in Lebanon, he begged the players of his mod to compensate him for the things he lost.

>>167504092
Its not a fallacy, your jelly can be seen a mile away.

Guy makes good money without violence, force of any kind, without extortion etc and something you dont have to use nor you dont have to pay for that if you decide to use it.

Make something that dethrones Masterwork ( which i would gladly see as i hate any kind of monopoly ) and then you would have a right to hurl any and all insults at that cuck.

>>167504082
What do you care? Stop shitting the thread with this garbage, if you can't stop having a fit every time someone mentions the guy, do us a favor and fuck off.

>>167504363
>Make something that dethrones Masterwork
why the fuck would I want that? that would just be a new masterwork.

>and then you would have a right to hurl any and all insults
no one gives me the "right" to insult someone. if I disagree with what someone does, I'm sure as fuck gonna speak up against it, ragardless of whether you think I've "deserved" to do so.

>>167504558
>why the fuck would I want that? that would just be a new masterwork.
Then you would reap the benefits yourself.

>>167504558
>no one gives me the "right" to insult someone. if I disagree with what someone does, I'm sure as fuck gonna speak up against it, ragardless of whether you think I've "deserved" to do so.
Wishing someone death is not "disagreeing with him".

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>>167505182
>Wishing someone death is not "disagreeing with him".

dump in wiht shotpost

began paged 10

>aventurine
>obtainable in fortress mode

>>167508180
??
I once found it.

>>167508180
>>167508604
whoosh

>>167503560
>>167503817
That happened during the long MW update hiatus after .40 released. He was claiming that all of his work on the MW update was on the stolen drive. Basically absolving himself of responsibility to his donors for lack of an update while asking for more money.

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>>167509042
>responsibility to his donors

TL;DR what will the impact of the upcoming artifact update be on fort mode?
I've been following the dev logs loosely but all I get is that artifacts can be displaced by creatures and something about catching someone take/steal objects and how it ties in with the rumor mechanic

>>167510849
It'll probably crash to desktop a bit more frequently.

>>167510849
Being able to send dwarves offsite will probably have a huge impact on the way you play.
Outside of that, not much.

>>167511814
I can already see the new memes

>3 cheesemakers and 4 strand extractors migrate to your fort
Gofetchmesumartifactbois.webm , and send them to a sure death
>tfw they come back as scar filled kill machines, and the chief assasin, previously a cheese maker comes to your mayor and hands the artifact bone earring before falling to a coma

It'll be great

>>167512085
>>167510849
Is there some list of things that are suppose to be in new update ?

>>167511814
>>167512085
I don't see any benefits to having artifacts tracked in the world when my fort shits them out at a pace faster than I can atom smash them

>>167512653
really nigga?
>Higher ammount of artifact creators
>Complete set of artifact adamantine and weapon guaranteed in each moderately enough world

>>167512943
>complete set of anything
>not just a huge pile of artifact buckets

>>167512943
>complete set of artifact adamantine and weapon
I'll take an artifact adamantine mail shirt and weapon, maybe clothes too. For rigid armour steel is better against everything except adamantine.

>>167512943
we will get socks and you know it and also 10 fps

I'm fed up with this toad

bump man, bump

>>167516060
If said socks trigger intriguing, large scale historical events like ownership feuds, treasure hunts etc, in which you can also participate in adv mode, then I'm perfectly fine with it.

>>167513778
Do enemies in fortress mode ever drop adamantine weapons/armor?
I've never seen any but I started DF only in December.

>>167512943
90% of the artifacts won't be weapons or armor and you know it.

I just had an ettin attack and one of my dwarves decided to bite his head, the left one and latch on while the others bashed and hacked away at the thing. I just imagine a tiny dwarf biting and hanging on to one of the heads and it's just so funny to me. Dem dorfs man

>>167518993
>I just imagine a tiny dwarf biting and hanging on to one of the heads and it's just so funny to me
haha lol

>>167518993
>I just imagine a tiny dwarf biting and hanging on to one of the heads and it's just so funny to me
rofl xD

>>167519293
>>167519440
not him, but you guys crave cinism like its fucking meth
>>167518993
Hope one day you'll be able to actually hang from mobile multitile body parts

>>167518721
I know, but I gotta believe

>>167518993
>I just imagine a tiny dwarf biting and hanging on to one of the heads and it's just so funny to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ1B3yQRhXY

>>167518687
Nope, the worst you'll have to face is bronze or iron, you won't even have to fight against steel. This means that you basically will never have to worry about an edged weapon going through your steel plate, so the upgrade to adamantine would be pretty pointless, even if it weren't for the next point: steel's much higher mass relative to adamantine helps it to absorb the blunt force of all attacks, including the blunt force caused by an edged weapon being successfully blocked by the armour, so your troops will take less bruises, cuts, and the like in combat. It is useful to have addy mail, as non-rigid armour like that can't block blunt damage anyway, and it will block the incredibly rare attacks that might have a chance of punching through a steel breastplate.

Weapons are what addy is best for though. An addy blade basically treats all armour as if it's not there (besides shiny blue armour, but you will never ever encounter an enemy wearing it unless you engineer the enemy yourself). It can also cut clean through enemies made of stone and metal. So use your addy for blades, and only start making other things with it when literally everyone who you could ever want to use a bladed weapon is wielding adamantine.
Sidenote: do not make adamantine blunt weapons! Absolutely useless things. Silver and steel are the best for blunt.

>>167473598
>>167454098
>>167450639

Thanks!

>>167450019
I should just stop sometimes.

>>167519293
>>167519440
>>167520808
Fuck off that was pretty funny. Imagine Gimli getting on top of the cave troll in moria and just hitting his his head. Tell me you don't at least crack a smile.

>>167521725
>Imagine Gimli getting on top of the cave troll in moria and just hitting his his head
That's so funny

>>167521725
>Imagine Gimli getting on top of the cave troll in moria and just hitting his his head
roflcopter xDD