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Why does pyromancy in DaS3 feel so much more fun than sorcery or miracle? Is it because of the burning effect it does on mobs? Is it because of the damage? Do the devs expect you to rely on your weapons more for sorcery and miracle since you have to invest in 1 stat instead of 2? Seriously, lightning spears feel bad as soon as you get them, but fireballs feel good from the tutorial, even when you get the Morne ring.

>>167287349
No it wasn't.


I miss being able to parry. I could parry fucking everything in Dark Souls 1. I haven't been able to parry since.

>>167287469
Yes it was. 1 second before.

>>167287469
Gotta use those small shields.

>>167287172
1.12 patch notes confirmed!

>buffed the spell Acid Surge. It now destroys equipment in six seconds or less.
>added the new miracle Soul Sucker. It uses the same animation as Sacred Flame, and the number of levels it steals scales with intelligence and faith.
>adjusted Pestilent Mercury to no longer deal damage. Instead, it now inflicts the Curse status effect at a rate of 30 buildup per second.
>changed the effect of Vow of Silence. In addition to disabling spells in its area of effect, it now also slows all players as if they had Iron Flesh active. Vow of Silence has been renamed Tranquil Silence.
>added new fist weapon Pus of Man. In order to use its full abilities, the player must be infected by the Pus of Man.
>due to unforeseen complications during development, the Pus of Man infection could not be included in the new DLC and will be added as separate downloadable content in the future, release date to be determined.
>added three new spells to the game, named Chaos Focus Souls, Sunlight Bed Vestiges, and Crystal Sunlight Spear.
>brought back all your favorite armor sets from Dark Souls 2, complete with their authentic original resolution and color palette. Their stats will be equal to their fully upgraded stats in Dark Souls 2.
>players may now find the complete Sunlight set, including armor, straight sword, shield, talisman, and maggot on a corpse in the new DLC.
>a new multiplayer item is included in the new content, called Eye of Death. Using it causes hostile NPC invaders to appear in other player's worlds. The effects stack with other players using the Eye of Death.
>added a new status effect to the game, called Dried. It can only be inflicted by a rare enemy in the new DLC. When a Dry player tries to summon another player for cooperation, there is a 50% chance that the summoned player will instead be a hostile red phantom. To cure Drying, the player must invade another player and kill the host, transferring the status effect to that player.

>>167287601
I just can't figure out the timing anymore

>>167287469
>No it wasn't.

Check your eyes retard

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>>167287469
Apparently it's because the parry delay means that you have to predict the incoming attack before you actually hit L2.

It felt somewhat more balanced in DaS2, where the small shields actually had a longer delay but more parry frames, so the trade-off was reaction-parry with less leeway versus prediction-parry with more leeway. As opposed to DaS3 where Caestus is just better than almost everything else in every way.

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>>167287613
>Tfw that last one's actually kind of cool
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>>167287525

Why does the Asylum Demon have a huge jiggling booty?

high lord wolnir is bad boss design

>>167287717
In DaS2, you have to parry a bit early because of the delay on the shield swing, but if it matches the animation, it usually parries. It's easier to parry with something like a Small Leather Shield, but parrying with a medium shield is still pretty doable with practice.

For DaS3, I gave up parrying with a medium shield. The enemies attack so fast it never feels like the animation connects for the shield swing, so I can never understand the timing for the parry even if I do it sometimes. So I pretty much exclusively use small shields for that game.

Is there any reason to use a weapon in the left hand in ds1?

Dont use this as a springboard to talk about ds2 pls

>>167287962
How do you fucking parry players though? IN Das1 you had to parry just as the attack started, what's the timing now?

>>167287803
Disregard that, I suck cocks. Apparently the parry shields in DaS2 were better than medium shields in almost all respects, save for recovery frames.

>>167287456
Better AoE, I guess.

>>167287456
Personally I've hated sorcery and offensive miracles all the way throughout DaS1/DaS2/DaS3.

Pyromancy always felt like a more rugged and reliable. But I've never felt comfortable with a 'pure caster' type character ever, so maybe I feel this way about Pyromancy because it compliments just about any playstyle.

>>167288061
offhand curved swords and rapiers can parry with l2 and attack with l1 I believe.
Quelaag's Furysword in the offhand is actually pretty decent for PvP but in PvE you're just better off with a shield.

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So when are they bringing back the single greatest piece of male leg attire the series has to offer?

>>167288061
Furysword and Gold tracer have great off-hand movesets.

>>167287469
I still dont get how parry works in ds1. Do I hit the button right before I get hit?

>>167288252
Isnt it better to have a shield if you're going for parries?

posted in other thread as well:
Should I just use a ref gem for 40/40 WP? Someone said dark or deep could also be decent for something?
wat do /dsg/?

>>167288497
>washing pole

please leave

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jesus, this game really is drowning in unused bloodborne assets, I thought it was just a meme. I just ran into this thing and it os flat out a BB enemy, from the open ribcage to the way it uses it's mouth, it's a cool as shit enemy but it feels lazy not to just save it for a BB 2 or something.

>>167288446
You can also parry with curved swords and rapiers in the off hand. Attack with L1, Parry with L2. The frame difference between Medium shields and Curved Swords is negligable if I remember correctly

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>>167286250
there's kindof a middleground with diminishing returns around where leveling up causes the prisoner's chain to be less worthwhile

If you're using something like build related, someone 10 levels ahead of you will have very little advantage and only really gains more weapon variety, so you can invade anywhere from the settlement to the cathederal just fine with it

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/142135

if you opt to run a build that isn't this low, you only miss out on the twink areas and get a few more weapons at your disposal

Are there any Pyromancies that are worth the slots for a sorcerer in DS1?
Mostly PvE I guess, though maybe I'll finally git gud one of these days and stop getting stomped in PvP

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>>167288258
That isn't the kitty feets, anon.

>>167288641
It also has a visceral animation

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>>167288641
>unused

The theme song is stuck in my head as I post this.

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>>167288768
FUCKING FURRY FAGS
GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD

>>167288752
Black flame is very worth it in pvp, though you're gonna want 45 dex for cast speed

gcfo is pretty alright as well

as I recall, rapport is good for pve at least, and the regular orbs are more slot/damage efficient than the chaos orbs (though you want the chaos orb lava in pvp)

>>167288896
CHORUUUUUUS
DAANAAANAAAAAAAAAA

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now you're just doing it on purpose

>>167288752
Combustion if people get in your face.

Iron flesh and especially power within can work quite well with specific setups

Toxic mist and firestorm have some situational uses

>>167287627
people wail on shields with it for chip damage, though that's more of a CCS job than a washing pole job and resin is always an alternative

>>167288938
Why do people love chaos fireballs so much? Do people actually ever run into the lava?

>>167287862
I seem to remember that they're pretty gluttonous demons, so maybe he's just fat.

>>167288752
Rapport is great just for fucking around in PvE, or as a babby seed of giants against invaders which can be pretty funny. No real reason aside from variety to choose any other pyro over a scorcery just for PvE though.

>>167289134

More damage and arcs. You can at least lob one on the ground for safety. You literally can roll once and be completely done with vestiges.

>>167288641

even it's fighting methods are based on bloodborne. The boss is incredibly active and hops around constantly, has side swipe attacks that inherently assume you are dodging. blocking doesn't really work on this boss either because it's aggressive and strong attacks wear you down fast.

>>167288752
Power Within.

>>167288119
das2 was parry shields for long window but slower startup vs parry dagger for fast startup but shorter window

and then there was the painting scimitar but that got patched out

>>167289134
not exactly, but it controls area by posing a threat

not worth it against AI at all unless they actually are dumb enough to just sit in it

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>Level in arena drops
>Feel like an absolute scrub

>Level in arena rises
>Lament being paired up with nothing but meta shitters

Just can't win lads

>>167287172
>invade at level 20
>guy has over 1000 health and the black knight greatsword

was he a hacking faggot

>>167289237
On the other hand, it kind of confirms that real shields actually would be useless in bloodborne.

>>167287938
i still don't even know what that boss does
i just locked onto his hands and hit bracelets while skeletons spawned somewhere behind me

>>167288641

Irithyll is basically "we enjoyed making bloodborne and now have to make this shitty game, so we're just going to keep making bloodborne"

>>167289237
Bloodborne has a system where you regain health if you attack right after taking a hit though, right?
Shit falls apart without that

>>167289503
You can beat it easily with DSGS

>>167289614

yes, but it's incredibly high risk high reward, if you fuck it up you die.

>>167289738
>get caught by boss's attack
>lull in the action
>was gonna attack anyway
>gain health back
Where is the risk

>>167288497
obviously refined is better on a refined build
the guy with a dark washing pole was probably doing a hex/pyro character

>>167289831
>implying the boss just attacks and waits for you to rally your health back
If you haven't played, please don't even bother speaking

>>167289343
he played through the game at sl20 and never leveled up

but he might've just used the cheat engine XD

Lazy way to fix weapon variation - No new animations required, just moveset swap - no effort required

Post your ideas

>Greatsword
>warcry WA with greatclub moveset
>Fume UGS, Propaned
>L2 into R1 does the ugs spin WA
>Cathedral KGS
>R2 is great club's
>Exile GS
>Give it the DaS1 Kumo moveset
>Greataxe
>Give it the DaS1 moveset
>Demon's Greataxe/Earth Seeker
>Give it the DrakeeperGS moveset
>Vordt Mace
>R2 is large club leap with freezing AoE. Frostbites in 3 R1 or 2 R2
>WA is DaS1 large club R2 leap
>Great Mace
>Greataxe R1s, R2 is stomp into pancake
>Dragon Tooth
>DaS2 pancake R2
>DaS2 rolling attack

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Who is this? Do we know? Considering the statues next to her (?) are intact, I'd guess it is deliberate defacing.

>>167289831
>Get hit by bosses attack
>Lull in the action

This is the point I disregarded your opinion

>>167289342
bring back handmaid's ladle in dlc2

if you pvped with that thing you would feel godlike whenever you won and it wouldn't matter when you lost because it was a fucking soup ladle

>>167290306
Probably the First Scholar. It could either represent an insane amount of wax, or a deliberate defacing due to them being against the linking of the flame, which goes against the beliefs of Lothric.

>>167289831

You have only a second or two to regenerate it, and you aren't going to regenerate it all in one or two attacks. And nearly every boss in that game is hyper aggressive and doesn't leave long periods where they're open.

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>>167288641

don't forget these babies.

>>167289232
he meant in ds1

>>167290302
This just made me realize greathammers had amazing movesets in previous games and I had no idea.

I miss my R1 into R2

>>167290609
>Literally have Messengers on their backs
Holy shit I never noticed those amongst the skulls before.

>>167290916
Was going to say this

>>167289343
>what is prisoner's chain
>what is life ring +3
>what is ring of favor +2

If he wasn't wearing them he may have been cheating

>>167290040
Some bosses are super retarded and get stunned easily if you hit them enough, it works.

>fight NK with greataxe
>never stun him
>fight him with a SS
>stun him all the time

who said this is ok

>>167291195
Then you're not rallying

How good is the Sage's Ring, fampai?

Is there a point to using a weapon that isn't the fucking claymore in DS3

>>167289343
There's no upper limit for invasions. He could be easily sl 30

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/142147

No need for +1 or +2 rings

>>167291327
Regular is pretty shit, but +2 is fantastic.

Has there ever been a good axe in this series? It seems like any use an ace has is done better by some other weapon group

>>167291321
>take damage
>attack boss
>boss limb gets stunned or the boss himself gets stunlocked
>get more hits in
>rally a lot of health

>>167291270
>fight NK with an UGS, NG+7
>it's fucking impossible
>switch to a faster weapon

>>167291432
There is an upper limit you dumb dumb

>>167291480
good? yes
fun? no

>>167291569
There is? Seems I was wrong about no upper cap. Even then, just checked, you can still invade someone SL 30, so my point stands.

Perfectly legit. People who assume others are cheating due to ignorance are the worst kinda of babies.

>>167291480
Millwood battle axe is a great weapon

>>167291480
Thrall axe is one of the best daggers in the game.

>>167287172
In dark souls 2, do I really have to get brotherhood of blood up to rank 3 to get the great chaos fireball for the achievement? I am trying to get all the achieves and getting covenenants up for shit like that is a huge pain.

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>>167291896
yea

good luck

>>167291896
Hit NG++ and go find Wellager. He'll sell it and the Sunbro spell.

>Tfw your name gets censored if it has the word Knight
>Because the letter nig are together in the word
This is the most ridiculous shit I've seen all fucking day are you serious

>>167292131
>>167291896
But you'll need wrath of the goods

for that you need 500 wins in the blue arena
and each fight costs a white thing you get for cooping
so you inflate your SM to billions just to fight

>>167292236
Und*** K***ht

>>167292236
the funniest part is that you can bypass it just by using capital letters

>>167292306
What the fuck ead gets fucking censored?

>>167289343
the stat reqs aren't that high if he's just twohanding it, and even if he had 30 str and 1k hp embered that's far from impossible

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/142153

20 vig and favor +0 alone gets you over 1k as a host due to the ember bonus, you can have enough stats for that and 20 end + 1h BKGS even at level 24

>>167291432
there is an upper limit, it's as wide as your downward range plus 10 or something like that

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>>167291480
>Demon's Souls
Executioner Axe was a popular STR option with infinite stunlock and good stats
All greataxes were good, even Dozer Axe was good for its sheer fuck you to shields

>Dark Souls
After the patches were done, axes were one of the few weapons to retain infinite stunlock and had high poise break to abuse it, Gargoyle Tail Axe was a menace with a buff
BKGA was good once

>Dark Souls 2
Axes in general were pretty meta once the buffs started rolling in, their speed and rollcatching was astoundingly good
Greataxes were strong though easy to parry 1h, drakekeeper greataxe remains my weaponfu

>BB
Hunter Axe was everything you'd ever want in a weapon

It's Dark Souls 3 where they're meh, everything has the same moveset, like even beyond Dark Souls 2

>>167292360
Eat a dick.

>>167292289
Actually wellager sells that as well on NG++.

>>167292360
eat a dick

>>167292309
No fucking way and I can change my name via Rosaria?

Oh look. Another parry for nearly all my health. Can't wait for them to add a non-parry state in CE so I can squish these faggots.

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>>167292289
WoG and Bountiful Sunlight are sold by NG++ Wellager.

Sunlight Spear is Sunbros covenant only, but you can farm Sunlight Medals off of mobs.

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>>167292490
fuck you anons i don't know what ead is

>>167292823
Eat a dick

I miss ChoUhoNhoeT

>>167292767
so then theres nothing that bad to worry about going for all achieves?

>find Irina
>she's nice buy her bodyguard is a dick
>listen to her stories to make her happy
>give her tomes so she can tell me more stories
>iwannaprotectthatsmile.jpeg
>give her the Deep tome
>she says it scares her, but whats the worst that could happen?
>buy Gnawing on accident, meant to buy Deep Proection
>buy both
>next time I come back to Firelink she's gone
>mention this to a friend in teamspeak
>tells me to make my way back to Gundyr's arena
>get there and find Eygon
>says he's gonna kill me and take the girl away
>kill him and take back Irina
>now she's depressed and complains about the things in the dark

I failed to protect her smile, I fucked up so bad. What should I do?

>>167293016
guy Eygon gloves, equip them and talk to her
It'll fix the problem

>>167292967
Theoretically one can obtain all cheevos while offline. I surmise that they anticipated that the game would die one day and the servers shutter.

In largely the same way that one can get all achievements for DaS3 without ever going online. You'll just spend a shitload of time farming Silver Knights for those Concords.

>>167293108
buy*

fuck these captchas seriously

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>>167292919

>>167293169
Awesome. Im still in ds2 and was just about to collect all the soul farming gear so I can successfully farm the giant guy so I can get super OP so I can beat the game again and get to ng++

someone willing to give me a drakekeeper's hammer?, I can trade you almost anything else as I won't be using other weapons.
SM 1.79M

>>167293169
Farming shackles is worse than farming concords.

>>167293108
Okay, just did that now.

She's selling me miracles again but she's still sad.

Did I just fuck up and make my waifu depressed?

>>167293320
>being this bad in PvP

>>167293318
It looks good but it's unsatisfying to use because they made it halberd y instead of greathammer

the sound is so unsatisfying.

>>167293420
read the post chain retard

>>167293320
join fightclubs. and git gud

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>>167293520
>>167293420
>fightclubs
>PVP
>offline

>>167293320
You can get shackles via dueling at Pontiff's (don't know if that's a thing anymore) or just by regular grapist invasions. Or even just by red-signing and having a friend summon you so that you can kill them. I've deliberately stayed at SL31 and boss-invaded Abyss Watchers for the shits and giggles, but it's gotten me 23/30 of the way there.

Blue Sentinels/Darkmoons are broken and don't get much activity by comparison.

Hey guys, I'm about to start up DS2 on PS3. Can you recommend some builds? Or at least warn me about ones that absolutely dont work?

>>167293453
>the sound is so unsatisfying.
fug

you seem to be a man of taste, which greathammer do you recommend?

I've been using greataxe so far, but the scaling gets shitty as fuck from 40STR up. And the other greataxes don't look as gud.

>>167293520
Please. There's no gud to git in Dark Souls 3.
>no spacing thanks to extended hitboxes and shockwaves
>no animation cancels, quickrolls, quickattacks, etc
>backstabs irrelevant
>meta weapon so easy to use a toddler mashing r1 can win

>>167293716
Dragon Tooth and DKGreatMace are very satisfying to use.

>>167292669
can't you just have a button that instantly curses them and push it whenever you get parried

or better yet you could just use CE to put the "YOU WIN" banner on the screen without even having to involve another player, let alone having to be better at the game than them

>>167293643
Try reading the reply chain next time

Nothing is worse than farming ninja skeletons for shackles.

Faggot who wasted his time beating Dark Souls unpatched here. I regret everything even after beating the damn game without abusing glitches.

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>>167293797
>there is no get good
That's scrub talk if I ever heard it.

>>167293652
Yes, playing DaS2 on PS3 does not work at all. Get SotFS on PS4 or PC instead.

>>167294178
My entire post also applies to Bloodborne.

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>>167293016
>find Irina
>her bodyguard is a pretty cool guy, laughed when he called Firelink a cesspool of degenerates
>realize he's the first NPC I like - genuinely excited to see what direction his story would go
>give the bitch the books but don't buy any miracles because I don't need no PHONY religion
>about to finish game, where the fuck is he?
>spoil questline, he's dead for 0 fucking reason and I have no control over it

>find out buying all the good miracles turns the bitch into a firekeeper
>do it for my bro
>she locks herself in the tower that I have 0 reason to go to and has next to no extra dialogue, doesn't even mention Eygon

10/10 quest design and writing, sasuga Memezaki.

>>167294063
Farming knights for sun medals

>>167293905
what.. but I just said..

are we talking about this one?
http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Drakekeepers+Great+Hammer

>>167294134
I WARNED YOU DOG

I TOLD YOU ABOUT THOSE PATCHES

>>167294296
Your entire post amounts to bullshit. Sure crutches and op shit exists in every game, within soulsborne and without. Player skill has its place and a good player can easily beat a shitter with even the most tryhard overpowered bullshit. As for pve, you can win with anything given enough practice.

>>167294693
I still beat it. I did the Dark Lord ending because fuck lighting myself back on fire. Also DWGR is a broken piece of shit, why use Havel's when you can fucking cartwheel in heavy armor?

>>167294319
It just occurred to me that I don't really like any of the NPC questlines in any of these games.
A lot of them feel more or less pointless since I really don't care about whatever items they do or don't give me in the end.

Anyone need help in some of the earlier bosses? I can do up through catacombs of carthus. I need the sun medals.

>>167289072
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>>167294767
I wasn't talking about PvE.

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>>167294848
don't care about items? What about
BOSS WEAPONS

>>167294946
Just boss invade as a Sunbro, if there's already a Sunbro summon with the host you can just follow them in and get a medal that way. Sure as hell beats putting a sign down and hoping that some random who isn't pants-on-head retarded will summon you and not get himself killed before the boss fog. Saves you the grief of babysitting some retard all the way to the boss fog too, and you end up with more Estus too.

>>167295330
Is a ps4 getting just for memeborne? I havent pulled the trigger on it because im an xbro and i play on pc

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>taking a bath
>feel something up my leg, think it's a cockroach
>a centipede crawled up the drain
>decide to kill it because it may attack the cats if I let it go
>kill it with a stick imitating dark souls movesets
>feel like an idiot after

>>167295507
Not really, but maybe down the line it will have more exclusives that make it worthwhile.

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I fucking hate this place, This is the only fun ive had since being trapped here by this cunt game, knocking these cunts off the stairs.

Ive died 4 times to the pinwheels in the little underground tunnels now, first 3 times where 3 seperate packs of pinwheels that just appeared from nowhere and killed me in the back after i had dodged one, the last death one somehow pinned me against the side of the wall and i couldnt move so i had to watch as my stamina drained to 0 and then my health so i am done with this glitchy mess for now im going to have a spliff and a nice long think about whether i actually enjoy this game.

/blogrant over

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>>167295752
Nostalgia
Get your humanity and go into the graveyard to the right of the courtyard

>>167295439
I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand. I have beaten these bosses already, so how am I supposed to follow people into arenas? I do apologize for the ignorance, I just started DS3. I already have Sunbro covenant on.

In scholar, if I am going for all the achievements, is there any reason I need Maughlin the Armourer around? I am a sorcerer and wanted his gear. If I need him for any achievement in any way I won't kill him. Anyone know?

why the fuck are lloyd's talismans SLOWER to use than estus flasks

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The first jailer , an inhabitant of the Profaned Capital who managed to escape its collapse and was recruited by Pontiff Sulyvahn to oversee the path leading to Boreal Valley . Perhaps the screams emanating from the Ashen ones helps him forget his old home.

>>167295985
Because youre supposed to predict when someones going to estus(when they are dieing basically) and not use it when they actually chug.

>>167295597
You were right to feel that way, anon. That was an idiotic thing to do.

>>167295962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MJQgpg8-1Y
Just do that, but with Sunbro covenant on instead of Mound Makers. If the host doesn't already have a Sunbro summon, BC out, if he does then join them.

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>>167295597
>>feel something up my leg, think it's a cockroach
Is this a common occurrence in your home

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>>167295752
If you have strength use a greatshield. If you have dex go as light as possible and kite them one at a time. If they're swarming you try to climb the ladder then wait for them to stop hitting the bottom and get a plunge on them. Best of luck

>>167296086
Does he get compensated for his work?

>>167296291
Probably australian and they are batshit insane criminals so thats why it doesnt bother him.

>>167296164
they can see you throwing it 10 years in advance and just dodge it though

the only times i reliably hit them is against clueless hosts who just try to shield-turtle or against people who whiff long-ass weapon arts

>>167296170
Now I feel bad. I should've let the poor thing go and locked the cats in a room or something

>>167296291
What else could it be? A spider wouldn't be in the shower they hate water and they only crawl over you when you're sleeping or standing still.

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>>167296357
Ill do my best after Ive had a break, pinwheels making me have to break before i friggin lose it., goddamn they are annoying

>>167296384
No. He endeavors of his own accord and eschews recompense.

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>>167295597
>>kill it with a stick imitating dark souls movesets
>feel like an idiot after

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>>167296537
>pinwheels making me have to break

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>>167296517
But centipedes are disgusting

Holy fuck, twin princes great sword is like pvp easy mode.

>>167296243
I'm sorry, I am not going to do that. I already don't enjoy the general invasion mechanics enough as it is.

>>167295330
I have no idea why this gets posted so often when the hitbox for the rakuyo is easily worse.
I mean, if you really wanted to make shit look bad, that would be the one to use.

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>>167296703
It was more like this. Kinda cute with the antennae

>>167296838
Because Luci made that webm and he is a rakuyofag

>>167296842
You know they have a painful venomous bite and tend to be aggressive, right?

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>when you hear Gwyn moaning while stabbing him with you long sword on Aldrichs fight

>>167296842
It makes my skin crawl just looking at it, nothing with that many legs needs to be alive.

In scholar, if I am going for all the achievements, is there any reason I need Maughlin the Armourer around? I am a sorcerer and wanted his gear. If I need him for any achievement in any way I won't kill him. Anyone know?

Is it possible to copy save data?
I want a 120 build for fight clubs and a SL80 for invasions, but I don't want to have to run through the game all over again for 2 builds that'll be the exact same aside from SL.

>>167297169
You don't need him.

>>167297069
>tend to be aggressive,
That's not true, they won't attack if you don't provoke them, there are a lot of species you can't just put them all in one bag. I've had those before here and they are super chill, the only problem is if you have cats because they can easily kill a cat depending on the size.

>>167297119
>Gwyn
>Aldrich
You mean Gwyndolin?

>>167297179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on48RQCPe48
you're welcome.

>>167297169
You need him.

What do people consider to be the best Twinblades (minus Gotthards)? I'm thinking Dancer's because that actually has a pretty good spacing tool with L1. The other are pale in comparison.

>>167297368
fuck I ment to link the dark souls III one. just go on youtube and type dark souls 3 backup saves.
>>167297363
yes I ment gwyndolin. I was too fat and lazy to type the whole name out. forgive me senpai

>>167297474
2kat not even a contest

DSIII. Easier to get summoned to get sun medals right outside bonfire or near boss arena?

>>167297368
>>167297493
Thanks

>>167297474
Brigand twindaggers

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>*unsheathes washing pole*

What's the best type of magic in 3 currently?

>>167297169
you don't need him
he does sell some boss armors later on if you leave him alive, but none of them are required for any achievements

>>167297876
Pyro

Yo, playing through Ds3 for the first time and have been trying to go through blind. I always do some kind of str/fai build on my first playthrough. Any weapons I should keep an eye out for? Seems harder to choose what stats to allocate in this game, any soft caps I should be trying to hit?

>>167297876
Chaos bed vestiges

>>167298004
It isn't blind if you're asking for advice.

>>167298062
>vestiges

Is this the new meme?

wait, gwynevere is the queen of lothric? could we see her in the next DLC?

dark souls 1 divine blessing:

>Holy water from Goddess Gwynevere.
>Fully restores HP and undo irregularities.

>The Goddess of Sunlight, Gwynevere, daughter of
the great Lord of Sunlight Gwyn, is cherished
by all as the symbol of bounty and fertility.

Dark souls 3 divine blessing:

>Holy water blessed by the Queen of Lothric.

>Fully restores HP and cures ailments.

>The Queen of Lothric, married to the former King Oceiros, was initially revered as a goddess of fertility and bounty. After giving birth to Ocelotte, her youngest, she quietly disappeared.

>>167297493
calling gwyndolin gwyn is a big confusing because gwyn is gwyndolin's dad in das1

>>167298004
So playing through blind right now and making a similar build, and was kind of doubting the STR/FAI build, but just got Wolnir's Holy Sword and my faith has been restored.

>>167298082
good call. this stat shit is triggering my autism, I'll just keep pushing through. Just driving me crazy since the miracles so far suck balls and haven't found any weapons that scale with faith well.

>>167298136
No, she's just one of her descendants.

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>>167296384

>>167298219
Try earthseeker next. Its move set is a cut above.

>>167298185
its okay cutie. its not rare to shorten a name.

>>167297474
Dancers blades are horrible, onikiri and ubadachi or gotthards.

>>167298348
Also playing semi-blind, so I have no idea where that is.

I am enjoying Wolnir's for what it is, though. I don't really use the wrath skill at all, though I am sure someone will probably say I should.

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>watching people dodge roll to their deaths in the catacombs
I will never leave this spot. the autism here is real.

>>167298219
>WHS

Playing blind indeed.

Why does ds3 feel like two different teams alternated work on it

>magic uses mp like souls AND has limited casts
>blue sentinel AND darkmoon
>no lifegem but also no kindling

And so on, it feels like they werent sure which of the last 3 games they should make a sequel to so they just sort of randomly took mechanics from all if them

>>167297727
Why is this guy a covenant leader? He's literally a bloated corpse in a sewer.

Now that I think about it, is Yorshka the only actual covenant leader in this game?

>>167298563
Hands down my favorite place to invade. Even if theyre running with a full gank squad all I have to do to win is hide in the right spot with force or a greatbow.

>>167298590
Fair enough. It probably isn't optimized, but it will do for a first playthrough.

>>167298796
>Why is this guy a covenant leader? He's literally a bloated corpse in a sewer.
wrong. he was a follower of Aldrich and a very powerful one at that. helped him get to anor londo and provides protection so people can leave Aldrich in peace to eat forever. why do you think undead settlement is so close by the cathedral? that's where it all started.

>>167298737
To me DS3 is a DS1 mod of Bloodborne with some DeS and DS2 thrown into there because why not.

>>167298914
undead settlement provides nom noms for Aldrich. his followers are from the cathedral. they started to spread his influence around / gathering bodies up to take to him at Anor Londo.

The old fat fuck is his top priest who ensures no one invades/ kills Aldrich in Anor.
Even in death he continues to serve and his influence is still seen/felt around those areas.

>>167298737
Because it's exactly like DaS2 where From didn't really want to make it, except this time the game wasn't hamstrung by a fucked up development cycle.

>>167298737
What it actually had was a team that where large majority had never worked on a Dark Souls game before.
So yeah, that's probably what's going on here.
>kindling
Shards were probably supposed to take the place of that.

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>mfw I invade someone only to have us both fall to our deaths
today is a good day.

>>167298796
Im more disappointed in old wolf of farron just being a taxidermy corpse or whatever. Also Rosaria doesnt have any dialogue. Feels lazy.

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>>167299552
>people are only realizing now how lazy of a game DS3 is

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>get summoned for a duel
>two guys there, one summoner and one dark spirit
>notice DS is using a YGM, so I use the same thing
>get him down to low health
>switches to black knight glaive at last second
>I kill him as he hits me, only a sliver of health left with me
>scummy, but whatever
>host summons the same guy again
>this time he uses YGM the whole way through
>kill him again
>host summons him AGAIN
>uses BKGlaive through the entire thing
>kill him yet again
>host summons him a g a i n
>BSC out because I can't be fucked to do this anymore

>>167299552
I actually forgot about Rosaria for a moment. Covenants in this game are kind of lame, outside Mound Makers there's nothing new there, some of the covenants just have the same functions as others, and Yorshka is the only covenant leader who is an actual character.

Bows could be completely fixed if the velocity of arrows was increased.

Dark Arrows have tracking and don't need the extra speed; slowest.
Fire Arrows should be slow due to the stagger and explosive effects.
Large and Wood Arrows should be a moderate speed. Large Arrows already have innate drop off.
Standard Arrows and Poison arrows should be fast and the best general-use arrows.
Feather Arrows should be borderline hitscan, albeit with the highest cost of all arrows and high damage drop off.

Hawk Ring should give a boost to dexterity scaling for bows.

>>167299128
>The old fat fuck is his top priest
he's one of the three archdeacons. the other one's the head honcho of the deacons of the deep, and #3 is apparently doing something or other with rosaria?

from archdeacon set description:
>Of the three Archdeacons of the Deep, one cast off his white crown and left the cathedral to stand by Aldrich.
>Of the three Archdeacons of the Deep, one stood over Aldrich's casket, with hope that he would return one day.
>Of the Archdeacons of the Deep, one attended to Rosaria, Mother of Rebirth, whom he deemed a goddess.

>>167300297
Darkmoon Arrows should restore 1 FP when they hit a target.

>>167299552
Covenants are a mess in ds3 and to a lesser (but not much) extent in 2 because either namco or the develpers think invasions are bad. Its the fundamental thing that almost all covenants relate to in some way but they think having joe q casual get set back by someone killing them is cheap. So instead of improving on ds1, which had great ideas for covenants ruined by a rushed dev time we get bullshit like all the area covenants in ds2 being in optional areas and a nerfed from the beta mound maker that nobody has any reason to summon

>>167300297
You could have stopped at the first sentence and been perfectly fine. The rest is a bit much.

>>167300507
how did beta moundmaker work?

>>167300680
so then

arrows get doubled velocity except for dark arrows which have tracking and dont need it

>>167300340
ahhh there we go. been drinking - didn't know if I was entirely wrong or not.
I love the Cathedrals lore so much.

>>167300869
Boom perfect. Somebody send this to From saying it offends their culture/gender/religion to have slow arrows. That shit works on blizzard. Seems worth a try on the japs.

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>>167300507
>the beta mound maker that nobody has any reason to summon
Aldrich and Mound Cov is all you need for maximum autism in this game. there's no reason to go any other covenant.

sunlight is cool though. praise em

Hey /dsg/, help a brother out here?
I'm thinking of playing DS2:SotFS maybe one last time, trying to get missed trophies.
Thing is, part of it involves completing the Iron King DLC that is a pain in my ass.
What's a good build for me to use to wipe PVE, in particular the iron king area? I want to be fucking done with that place ASAP.
Plan on playing the game from scratch by the way. May as well, what with soul memory and all.

>>167301302
>What's a good build for me to use to wipe PVE
GUTS BUILD IS ONLY BUILD YOU NEED
WILL THIS A REAL QUESTION?!

>>167301401
>WAS
fuck you very much phone.

>>167301302
Longsword counterdamage with buffs worked for me.

>>167301302
easiest build in pve is just ring of blades + stonering + 2h rapier
spam r1 for one billion years while stunlocking every enemy
the iron king enemies are also super easy to backstab because of their long attack animations so maybe bring a +10 dagger

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Finally killed the pinwheels and turned the jiggy still died 2 more times before i did though haha, talk about fuck around, even pulling with the bow still had another coming up behind me half the time.

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Any good fashion soul sets? Feels like there aren't many in DaS3

>>167301302
rob/flynn/stonering/vanquishers.
engraved gauntlets. laugh at the entire game as you beat it into submission with your bare hands. add bone fist to taste and cook for three hours.

>>167300340
Maybe the third Archdeacon is that grub that Rosaria is holding onto.

>>167296517
>what else could it be?

not a fucking bug that infests shitholes

holy fucking kek.

lightning blade twinspears + vow of silence absolutely tears apart crystal sage.

>>167301924
you mean bonewheels
pinwheel is a completely different thing

>>167296086
I remember you mr. jailer how goes your duty?

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>>167301945
>add bone fist to taste and cook for three hours.

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>>167301942

This is /fa/ approved.

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>>167295752
>pinwheels

>>167302127
I'm sorry about whatever terrible accident that left you like that.

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>>167301924
>pinwheels
>>167295752

>>167301976
crystal sage has nohp, everything tears it apart

I heard the Ringed City, focusing on story and pve more, would be twice as large as Ashes. Is this true? Is there likely to be more in the way of weapons an armor sets?

I hope there' finally a pure dark damage weapon, and not one with a buff of the wrong element of damage.

>>167302328
>no HP

confirmed for never progressed past NG

NG+7 crystal sage has 26k

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>>167300507
>DS3 fag can't even admit covenants are bad without trying to talk down the game with the best covenants
They did a good job removing the harmless PVE champion covenant in a game with a fuck literally named "the Champion". The headstone would've looked perfect in Iudex arena, first damage ring + rampant humanity form change item never ever.

Also don't you need to go through Doors of Pharros and lava world belltower?

Also nothing is fucking worse than Rosaria.
>downgrade from like 10 respecs to 5, they're also tied to character appearance for some retarded reason
>no arena
>blind players have to stumble upon the hidden ladder than parkour across rafters just to likely cancel themselves out of another questline
>notLautrec takes her soul to fucking Anor Londo so you instantly draw the parallel and figure that returning her soul will allow her to talk again - maybe even net you a reward to balance against transposing her soul for the miracle
>does jack shit
>ugly disgusting ass Bloodborne design
>lorefags memeing about how she's Gwynevere or Queen Lothric and all that gay shit
>final rank reward is a crappy staff

bitch needs to be purged

Don't know much about these games beyond the first one (and even then, I've only played half of it). Is it possible to play through the entire game with a friend in 2 or 3?

>>167301945
What's the point of vanquishers seal if I use engraved gauntlets? Don't I have to be bare handed for the vanquisher to work?

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>>167302127
looks like a crappy version of mine desu

>>167302701
engraved gauntlets aren't a weapon, they're gloves, and you're allowed to wear gloves

>>167302732
>if it uses demon fists, it's my outfit!

kys.

>>167302603
pharros is forked
one side of the fork leads onwards to spidertown, the other side is rat covenant territory and leads to a dead end with the covenant leader and notSif

grave of saints is also completely bypassable by just going farther down in the well

belfry luna is just to get to the optional gargoyle boss. after killing the gargs you get a key which you can use to turn the lights on in lost sinner's room, but it isn't necessary

belfry sol just leads to a room full of chests and then dumps you out right near its entrance

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rate my modified aragorn/ranger stereotype aesthetic /dsg/

>>167302681
Yes. But you'll be called a pussy for it. These games are best enjoyed alone, and then maybe a co-op run afterward.

>>167302681
The password feature in 3 lets you hook up easily, but you still basically have to go through the world twice, once for each of you.

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>>167301942

>Stream DaS when I have the energy to play it
>Had one guy in watching and helping out for most of it
>See some join but not speak and then leave
>Die over and over sword-wolf
>By the end even my loyal viewer had left
>Running there took fucking ages
>Finally say fuck it and think I'll just get my souls and use one of those bones to get out
>Decide that fuck it, I'll atleast try and tp if I get low with no estus charges
>I actually manage to kill it
I feel like a war veteran, lonely, but glad it's over

With that said, there's no reason to buy the thing for 20k to open the passage after you've beat the wolf, right? Or does it have some other purpose

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>>167302281
>>167302227
>>167302058
Oh my bad, Ive been up all night and they both have wheel in the name.

Fighting 2 crows and then 2 more and then Jeremiah was ez compared to the ordeal i just went through with the bonewheels.

>>167302925
no nigger I mean that your chicken leg'd pinhead ass looks like a worse execution of the same idea, which is using a corrupted lower half to match the fists.

That or you just threw a bunch of shit together, which is probably more likely.

>>167302931
To be fair, if you don't warp, you're stuck going through the Belfry Sol to get back on the path forward.

>>167303040
4/10
4/10
7/10
bloodborne/10 use follower's boots and ud legion gloves
3/10. use a chain helmet to show off your sliderfu
6/10 shit weapons, decent fashion
2/10 what the fucka re you doing

>>167302931
>after killing the gargs you get a key which you can use to turn the lights on in lost sinner's room
That's not where it is in Scholar, they actually moved it.
Ended up being one less reason to go through luna.

>>167303172
>thinking I'm that person
>still using the "if it uses the demon fist it's my outfit!"

kys.

>>167303172
>thinking that was me

My outfit looks more cooler. Yours is just meh. See that shit all the time in gank spanks.

>>167303146
The Crest of Artorias Door is just a shortcut.

>>167302931
I'm pretty sure there's a chest high wall that forces you through Sol.

>>167303146
It is a massive shortcut that makes it much easier to recover if you die.

So yeah, a little late now.

>>167303332
the chest high wall just prevents you from getting back to Iron Keep from the sol bonfire
but said bonfire is approximately 2 feet away from the smelter demon bonfire anyways

>>167303257
>not understanding the difference between using the same idea and claiming you invented it
>spamming kys
go back to /v/
>>167303264
I'm sorry m8 but it looks like trash. Pinhead and Artorias chicken legs has to be the worst taste imaginable, you may as well finish it off with Smough helm.

>>167302732
>>167303172

>"I'll use every part of a set except the helmet INCLUDING the same weapon type (fire sword)"
>"I'm fucking unique!"

Holy hell are you retarded. Saying someone else's fashion looks like trash when you have no creativity.

>>167303559
>>claiming you invented it
See above.

Kill yourself.

>>167303330
>>167303465
Alright yeah I figured, cheers

>>167303604
>Gundyr gauntlet
>firelink chest
>dark leggings
>same set

>oh my God he used the fire buff with the demon fists and burned theme!? Why not ice? TRASH FASHION

lol shut the fuck up and take your own advice my man.

>>167288641
The gaping dragon existed in ds1

>>167302980
Don't care. Just want to have fun with a friend.

>>167303005
Neat. Guess I'll buy it.

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>>167303040
I love the Billed Mask + Vinheim's torso

i tried doing a "co-op" playthrough with a friend but he is Very Bad At Video Games and even with me as a phantom to hold his hand he still died enough to completely run out of embers and no longer be able to summon
still hasn't beat Vordt

>>167303559

You're just jealous you didn't think of it yourself.

Got a question about DS1 and weapon upgrades

with minimum stats to use a zwei (16/10) and it's poor scaling, is it better to +15 or go chaos/lightning? I understand that there's something about split damage weapons that do worse than the numbers imply because of how the damage calculation works.

>>167303628
Good luck. Don't you dare go Hollow.

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>Invading with blue orb in Anor Londo
>Arrive in Dark Anor Londo
>Oh hell no boi
>Find the guilty near the first bonfire
>Faggot keeps trying to backflip behind me for a backstab
>Get tired of his shit so chop him to bits with Chaos Blade

Why do the Guilty sin? They know what's gonna happen.

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>>167304032
>WKGS in HUD
>halberd in hand

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>>167301942
This is one is simple, yet effective

>>167304063
nah I went through Artorias legs but I prefered dark because they look like charred wood.
On second look it's not that bad because the gold pinhead goes nice with that buckle.

I dunno maybe go to Rosaria and beef up your thighs?

>>167304089
>Why do the Guilty sin?
Because shitty matchmaking (ds1) or there being a larger requirement to draw blue attention combined with getting sin being harder (ds2) or the mechanic not existing (ds3) 90% of sinners can and will get away with it and never see a blue phantom.

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>>167304212
hue

>>167304308

Sucks to be the 10% then I guess.

>>167304089
>Why do the Guilty sin?

because gywndolin is a fuccboi, ez 50k souls, plus dorkmoons suck. darkwraith 4 lyfe fgt

>>167303802
>dark leggings

hahah no. Dark leggings have individual toes. Now you're shitposting.
>gloves
No one cares about those. They all look the same

Also you are literally now saying that having the same theme is not similar fashion, the exact thing you were attempting to say other dude was doing.

Good job, you're shitposting.

IS DARTCASTED FROZEN WEAPON ON VORDT'S ANY GOOD?

>>167304448
>not joining darkwraith just to get tons of red eye orbs and then going back to darkmoon

>>167304448

I've launched 20 something blue invasions and got about 20 something ears now so boiwraiths can't be all that.

>>167304498
>IS ______________ VORDT'S ANY GOOD?
No

>>167304498
vordt's is amazing with an ice buff, so yes

you frost people in like, 3 hits or some shit

>>167304684
>getting 3 hits with an ultra weapon
couldn't you use a different weapon with a different buff and just... kill people in those 3 hits?

maybe frozen weapon on the irithyll straight sword is better

>>167287938
Such a cool boss, cool lore, awesome intro, setting... and then the fight fucking blows.

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>>167304549
i have 5 other characters with +99 tongues as well

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>make new character
>get invaded by twink at high wall
>it's a girl with untrue dark ring wearing slave knight leggings
>and nothing else
>with a whip
>and abs
>get whip-poisoned to death

>>167288641
The Catacombs being a copy and pasted Chalice Dungeon didn't already tip you off?

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>>167304810
what build can 3 shot people with irithyll SS? send it my way

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>>167304496
>hahah
>backpedalling and doubling down on being wrong at the same time
I don't know what to tell you dude.
You have extreme autism.

>>167304881

>But only two forked tongues

The reds fear the Darkmoon.

>>167305007
I mean frostbuffed straightsword will actually apply the status early enough to matter

by the time you apply it with vordts, a better greatweapon would've just killed them

>>167305087
>backpeddling
Never changed.
You're outfit is as unique as a pile of shit is a diamond.

And yet you claim another outfit is copying your style.

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>>167305087
>>167304496
>>167303802
>>167303604
>people are actually arguing about this

>>167305190
'Fashion' is cancer and all of this trash looks like trash.

Why don't they just allow frost weapons to be buffed?

Kinda doesn't make sense to me.

>>167292236
Pretty sure my name isn't censored at all and it's BarryMcCockinner

the skinny skeleton artorias legs are pretty bad

but the other guy just looks like a regular (fashionable) knight rather than whatever corruption or fire-themed thing he's supposed to be going for

God, please tell me that someone has Dragonslayer Armor alive on one of their characters, I want to fucking oblierate the nigger with Frozen Weapon buffed Vordt's

>>167305249
i would love to put charcol pine resin on ISS lol

>>167294848
I liked Vengarl's quest alot, mostly because Red Rust Scim is one of my favorite weapons

>>167305249
God created dartcasting for a reason, anon

>>167305362
It's alive on mine but I haven't even begun to explore lothric castle.

>>167305317
use dark leggings

>>167305405
>tfw carthus flame arc on irithyll ss and vordt's

>>167305421
i will carry you, anon.

what kind of dumbass Carthus mage invented Flame Arc anyways
didn't he realize that it wouldn't stack with the Carthus Rouge his soldiers were already using

>>167295597
>it may attack the cats

u wot

Playing SotFS unpatched atm, Drakeblook knights AI is all over the place, just watched one attack nothing and fall to his death, and they frequently just stop attacking after backstabbing them.

Any other shenanigans I should look out for? First time playing DaS 2, its been mediocre so far.

Shitter here, about to start Dark souls 3

Is dex good? What's a good weapon I should go look for just for PvE

>>167305528
It was used to cauterize the bleeding wounds

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>>167305528
bleed has always been for pussies

>>167305169
>more broken english
>more autism
You said it was all the same set, and that those aren't dark leggings. It's 5 unique pieces and those are dark leggings.

I thought it was a little harmless banter but clearly I've triggered the shit out of you, the guy who actually uses the set cared far less.

I dunno you spammed kys and then called me a shitposter so this is gonna be last (you). But just to be clear in case you genuinely don't understand, coming to the same same easily arrival idea doesn't mean that one person owns that idea.

>>167305706
Autism.

>>167305643
knight starting weapon

>>167305442
Fine fine.
Where will you put your sign down?

>>167305643
Uchigatana

Sellsword Twinblades

Carthus Curved GS

Old Wolf GS