/svg/ Shadowverse General

Remove rune from the game

Remove haven from the game

Remove RoB and lets go back to DE

Make SV fun again

>>167178906
DE was not fun though.

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ELF A SHIT BULLY ON SIGHT

>>167178951
It was way better than this shitty garbage expansion at least

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>>167178239
Thanks for the help Rowen!
Let me kill you or kill me.
Room ID: 64754

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this is the closest shadowverse poll of all time

http://www.strawpoll.me/12225366

I want to make Luna pregnant and do lewd things while she has a big tummy!

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Anyone up for some friendly non-Rune games? I need to unwind for a bit.

71921

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>>167178906
>remove rune

Cygames creates a deck that

>Is cheap as fuck (only 3 legends and 3 golds)
>Is easy to use
>Is easy to counter
>Is really effective
>Got a balance of 50/50 on bishonens and sluts

Yet people bitch non-stop about it instead of countering it or using it!!!

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>>167178982
t. elana pseudo intellectual

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>tfw /svg/ is full of havenplebs

>>167179071
>censored Isabelle.

>>167178998
I still don't understand the options.

>>167179071
>Is easy to counter
lol

>>167179106
Yeah, wanting to remove Haven from the game makes me an Elana main.

TSUKOME
TSUKOME

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Show those Daria degenerates the light!

>>167179164
kys weebcuck

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>>167179164
Wife

>>167178996
Anyone please?

>>167179241
>Complaining about weebs in a weeb game and weeb general

Found the retard

>>167178906
>two months from now

Remove "next strongest class" from the game

Remove "rune" from the game

Remove *new expansion* and lets go back to RoB

Make SV fun again

If Levi was a 4/3 4pp that evod to a 5/4, would you all be content?

>>167179164
http://usamin.love/card/blitz_lancer/j_summon.wav

>>167179136
It goes back to censored after every small update, I got bored of uncensoring again and again

>>167179071
Its counters can still lose if they get a to good start and vomit oglers and shit before you can even evolve.

>>167179356
How is the Haven the next strongest class? It's pretty low tier right now to be honest.

>>167179521
Next strongest class in the new expansion, dummy.

>>167179396
As long as crimson sorcery cant go face.

>>167178996
>>167179326
Only need 2 more.
Thank you all who partook in it so far.
Room ID: 64754

>>167179521
>Haventumors actually believe this

>>167179164
>when ungabats letting your 3/1 blitz lancer alive for 3 turns because they're too intelligent to trade

Sometimes I'm grateful she's 3/2 instead 2/3.

i just checked /gbf/ and oh wow i thought this thread was autistic

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>>167179767
Suck it up, I'm gonna be spraying that crimson sorcery all over your face every time on turn 4.

>>167179396
You guys underestimate how quintessential that card is to runes success. That nerf would make rune a tier 3 class across the board.

>>167179013
Wanna go for a bo/3, Anon who I'm fighting with?

>>167179071
>is easy to counter
Even their worst match ups lose to a good Daria hand. A Tempo Rune that draws Daria with Daria, while vomiting their hand, spamming cancer Fireballs, clearing your board and flooding the field every turn is absolutely unstoppable.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12222336

>>167179902
>>167172886

>>167179920
>tfw brick hard with dirt but draw into levi + rune by 4

I don't know how you'd play this deck without it, especially in this meta

>>167179920
>That nerf would make rune a tier 3 class across the board.

Good.

How come this general has no tripfags yet, even though it's much more active than, for example, /dng/, that is flooded with them?

>>167179920
>>167180108
>Nerf levi+piercing
>Rune is now more honest craft

I dont see the problem

So are they going to release more single player content by the next expansion? I'm not exactly hooked on the story or anything, but getting some small rewards from clearing a stage is a bit more fun than grinding ranked once you have most of the early score rewards.

>>167179071
You can't counter a perfect hand Dorothy.
So called "control" decks die to the pressure before they can really get going on turns 6-7 and then they just die to burn damag.
If you win that means he got suboptimal hand. In a perfect world, if a Dorothy player get the perfect hand it will ALWAYS win against your perfect hand.

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>>167180024
DELET THIS CHRISTMAS CAKE IS PURE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>Jesus I'm running to a lot of Dshift today, guess I'll stop playing Dirt
>Queue as Aggro Sword
>First match is Control Blood
Every fucking time

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>Elana and Seraph is okay.
>NERF LEVI AND PIERCING RUNE.

>>167180156
We had, we used Shadow Duels to purge them

>>167180195
All they have to do is make ogler 6, and the daria is now completely manageable in most cases. Any other nerf is too much and would destroy the deck and effect other rune decks.

>>167180224
Nuns are always the sluttiest whores you can find

>>167180314
>p-p-please dont nerf my broken shit how will I ever climb without it

Eat a dick

>>167180242
I say nerf all of those.

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Help

>>167180242
>B-but muh seraph muh elana

literally no one brought those up and we all agreed that theyre cancer

fuck off runeshitter

>>167180358
>Meme in the sky or ambush meme

>>167179920
Who cares? DShift has been relevant (AND CANCER) since Standard. The class has to leave Tier 1 for once, even Sword did.
All they need to do is buff the class in some other manner or give them better (but not OP, like Levi and Piercing Rune) cards next expansion, if it becomes completely worthless like you are saying it would.

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So much daria today

>>167180358
Memes or memes.

Go for the left memes.

>>167180242
You got it wrong buddy. All Elana users moved on Daria.

>>167180314
>still think ogler is the problem

Enjoy 3 Blade Mage hitting your face on turn 4.

>>167180462
B-BUT /svg/ SAID DARIA IS OP?

>>167180216
This. Dorothy is balanced by requiring a perfect draw of the right set of cards, more so than other decks require to win, but it's still rather broken thanks to 1pp crimson and piercing giving free spellboosts.

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>>167180242
>elena in 2k17

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Remember kids, don't try to play Nephtits. Only aggro shadow is a viable brick proof choice.
maybe if it was poker I would've won something.

>complaining about chemocraft

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>>167179850
Last one. Thank you for cooperating.
Room ID: 64754

>>167180514
On was some kind of daria running merlin, I assume that was a dshift/daria hybrid? but yeah other than the one that got perfect draws they weren't a problem for tempo.

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>>167180608
>draw both of my mordecais before turn 8
>fucking lose
I fucking love the deck when it works out, but these kind of things happen way too fucking often and it's incredibly frustrating.

>>167180683
Earthrite is the real chemo deck. Kys cancer.

>>167180358
Left or risk trying to draft a bunch of ambush.

>>167180757
>concede cancer
>chemo

>>167180242
Elana should only buff if it heals something.
Seraph cant be hastened.
Evoing levi gives him 3/3 stats.
Piercing rune only do dmg to face if it kills the follower.

Rogue creed is 2pp but is ambushed too.

>>167180608
>aggro shadow is a viable brick proof choice
i have posted a hand with no 1 or 2 pp cards to play till 3rd turn recently

lost because i lacked 3 face damage

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>>167180608
Aggro Shadow is aesthetic as fuck too.

>>167180838
>Piercing rune only do dmg to face if it kills the follower.

That will change almost nothing idiot.

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>>167180514
>>167180542
>implying Daria isn't OP by itself
A 9 cost 5/5 that DRAWS 5 AND SPELLBOOSTS 5 TIMES is hugely strong by itself. Give it the potential to cost 0 and it becomes fucking broken.

The problem though isn't that Daria is too strong. It's without a doubt the strongest card in the game at the moment, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. The problem is that this broken card synergizes with other strong cards to create an absolute mess of cancer.

Sure, Daria's winrate has fallen, but it's still quite high and literally defined the meta. People don't understand that the reason it's fallen is because it's forced all other decks to incorporate specific anti-Daria tech, which makes them vulnerable to other decks while still having at most a slight advantage over Dorothy.

Strong cards will always exist, Daria isn't balanced in the slightest. Seriously, Draw a flat 5 is so fucking strong by itself. But the problem with it is that the supporting cast works so well with Daria.

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>tfw you have to click 15 times, then retire the deck, just to get to your pack.

>>167180838
Your ideas are absolutely abhorrent.

>>167180914
Literally my list. Gobu mage is just too good for making sure you spend your pp optimally. Better yet if you draw a reaper or storm mummy from it.

Should we send an email to cygames?

>>167180968
>Seriously, Draw a flat 5 is so fucking strong by itself
it's not a flat draw of 5, she banishes all your hand

>>167181119
We should all send an email to cygames asking for Levi nerfs

>drafted the sickest dragoncraft deck in T2
>2-3
>all losses from opponents drafting double roaches or double levis

Forest fucker drafted 2 roaches and 4 nature guidances. How the fuck do you survive against that?

>>167181119
Why? Do you think they have secret Luna lewds?

>>167180968
Daria has never been a game winner for me, It's all about the Clarke and Chris boosting the Ooglers and Witches, You don't even NEED Levi to win with Daria.

So people crying for a nerf are stupid, a couple of taunts or board clear destroy Daria EASILY.

>>167180914
>>167181082
Same list too. It had skele knight before but I've put in Gobbus instead and it's amazing.

>>167180968
That's if the 5 cards you draw can be spellboosted. You make it sound like you will always draw into 5 spellboosted followers to flood your board.

>>167181119
lets write an email /svg/ il start

cygames

>>167180968
Daria really isn't the main problem with Tempo Rune, it's a combination of Levi and Piercing Rune burn + insane above of curve board flooding + Daria making sure the deck never runs out of fuel.
A lot of times the deck doesn't even need Daria to win.

>>167181082
>>167181236
It fucking works so yeah, she's staying.

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>>167181215
>just themis it bro
i thought this was an inside joke. Some people took it seriously I guess?

>>167178949
>>167178840
why are there always 2 OPs?

>>167181215
But you have to survive until you get said board clears also and at start wards are to weak so they are pretty much piercing rune fodder.

>>167181382
Because people are autistic and have to fight for the OPs

>>167181215
>Chris

>>167181157
>The banish is relevant

Yeah, by the time you play Daria you already have a near empty hand anyways because of all the free shit from Spellboosts. She Banishes like 2 cards on average, cards that probably aren't going to be played anyways, since you've likely already played all your cheap burns, spellboost minions and Levi already. And then you cycle into possibly more free shit.

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>>167178906
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>>167180991
>Implying cards need nerfs
>Implying is bad to have Tier 1 decks
>Implying you're just not lazy player

A good player would search for better technology to deal with the meta.

This happens literally EVERY single meta in Magic the Gathering with the Pro Tour.

In Kaladesh the meta was

>First 2 Weeks: Aggro Vehicles, Aggro Energy, Spirits

>After the Pro Tour: B/G Delirium, U/W Tempo, Midrange decks

>2 weeks after the Pro Tour: Players evolve AGAIN and create Energy Marvel decks just to fuck G/B Delirium and literally erase it from the meta

The same also happens in Yugioh, you're just a bunch of lazy fucks.

Pic related.

>>167181452
I don't remember that 2 pp faggots name.

>>167181341
If you take away crimson sorcery's ability to hit face that's already 9 damage saved. Pretty insane if you think about it.

>>167181275
The following cards are

>>167179013
H-hear!

>Not watching Nico Nico streams to get ahead of the meta.

>>167181506
very cute

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>>167180695
Thanks to all the anons who helped.
I ended up getting 4 legos in 10 packs.

>>167181548
This.

/svg/ is always 2 weeks behind impressive.

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>>167181535
Thanks for the games, Anon, they were fun. Sorry for the stomp, I hope the concedes softened the blow just a little bit. I would've brought memier decks, I just don't have any at the time.

>>167181597
Like cocks

46994
Need concede.

>>167181597
I want to marry

/r/equsting the blurry quickblader edit

>>167181680
quickbladder

>>167181479
People ARE trying to counter the deck, fucking retard. The fact that Aggro Blood has completely died out after people started countering it, but Tempo Rune is still Tier 1 is proof that the deck needs nerfs.
Also, your pic is about netdecking, what is not even related to the matter.
>>167181479
>The same also happens in Yugioh,
People have been crying about Molmorat cancer for months already. STFU, it's the same shit in every card game.

>>167181715
please add female quickblader to the game

>>167181479
t. netdecker

>>167181784
KanColle crossover with Shimakaze as the quickblader

>>167181648
Thank you Mr. Skeleton.

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>>167181853
Thank you

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>>167181157
So does timetwister. That didn't make it balanced.

The point is that being able to draw a flat 5 to make up for dumping your hand means you can flood board with zero penalty. Which is anathema to TCG design, I can't think of any other case where this mechanic has been so liberally implemented as Daria and NOT been banned from tourneys.

>>167181268
The spellboost is really only the cherry on top.

>>167181341
True, even without Daria the deck is still strong. Daria isn't a wincon, you're thinking of it wrong. Daria is a fucking momentum engine. Even if the card deals no damage and has no board impact it lets you constantly draw and draw and draw. Not every card has to be game winning or deal huge damage to be overpowered.

>>167181479
I'm not saying we shouldn't think of solutions. Hell, the whole reason the meta's shifted is because of Daria, so obviously there are counters.

It's just that even if the deck is balanced by its counters, it's still unhealthy that the game's meta is so heavily defined by a single deck that takes up 30% of the playerbase. The most Seraph Haven, Bannermemes, and PTP affected the meta in DE is by forcing a couple of Odin and AB techs. Daria completely shuts out any deck not built to deal with her, and that's just shitty game design.

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You can have sex with ONE female from Shadowverse, which one you choose?

>>167181975
Eris

>>167181843
signed with love

>>167181479
I literally said daria is not much of a problem for my deck, stop quoting randomly

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>>167181975
Easy.

>>167181975
Tsubaki

>>167181479
I never implied cards needed nerfs.
>linking all those posts
But you're clearly autistic and have a confidence issue if you feel the need to tell everyone off.

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>>167181975
Fuck that's hard.

I like tomboyish short haired qts so maybe Erika? Maybe Ding Dong?

Nah, I'd rather Ryona and Rape Daria.

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>>167181975
Easiest Nepthys of my life.

>>167181975
veight

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>>167182151
Ogler already does that m8

>>167181947
>I can't think of any other case where this mechanic has been so liberally implemented as Daria and NOT been banned from tourneys.
Literally the Pendulum mechanic in YGO. The difference is that Konami made sure to give us enough counters to it to the point that Pendulum is not even relevant anymore outside of Metalfoes. They were kind of forced to, after they gave birth to the strongest deck that game has ever experienced (EMEm/PePe).

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>>167181975
Cerberus

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75390


Please concede or sudoku

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>>167181975
Anyone who doesn't say Charon is a fucking baka.

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>>167181975
I can never play Dragon because i always have to go and masturbate when i draw her

>>167182032
therefore someone need

>>167181975
Luna, easy

>>167182364
Thank you priest lady of banishment

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>>167181975
The only problem with fucking Forte is that she probably only likes to be on top all the time.

>>167182532
>problem

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>>167182235
Nah, it's not enough. If the word 'hate' was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of millions of SV cards in existence it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for Dorothy at this micro-instant. For Daria. Hate. Hate.

I want to lock her up in a rape dungeon and beat her senseless and impregnate her with my seed. And then force her to carry it to term and as battered wife syndrome comes in and she begins to love the child despite the abuse I want to kill the infant in front of her. I want Daria to sink into the deepest depths of despair possibly before I finally do her a single favor and free her from this mortal coil.

Then I'll fuck the corpse.

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>>167182532
>problem

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>>167181975
My wife Otohime!

>>167182445
SNIFF

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>>167182578

>>167182578
>I want to kill the infant in front of her
Calm down, anon.

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>>167182532
>Forte Pissed 3.webm
Well, go on then, post the rest.

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>>167182569
>>167182683
>>167182728
Well I want to put her in fours and fuck her ass.
Or fuck her tits.

But I guess you can still fuck her ass even if she is on top all the time.

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>>167181479
>quotes the whole thread for (you)s.

>>167181975
Erika. With the princess watching.

>>167182578
>>167182725
WITH A BANG AND A BOOM

>>167182578
You're not funny, the rant is not amazing. Neck yourself idiot, you suck at expressing yourself in empathic ways.

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>>167182803
I like this webm better, she's not having an epilepsy attack here.

Looking for a concede.

37631

>>167182994
kys HS shitter

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>>167182803

>>167182994
It's okay anon, you're not in /hsg/

>>167183018
>>167182717
>>167182725
>t.tempo rune players

>>167182532
>Implying she wouldn't want a strong man to dominate her and make feel like a woman

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>>167181975
Charon.

>>167183062
Thanks Cerb!

>play Wolfbolt
>either I win with roaches or I lose
Please

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>>167183114
This

Honorable mention to all of the literal succubi in the game

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>want to themis
>can't themis

send help

>>167183345
Just Breath of the Salamander it bro.

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>>167183114
I want to kiss her thighs

>>167183345
you've posted this already, get the fuck over it retard

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>>167183345
Just Cyclone Blade it, bro.

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>>167181975
Isabelle.

Correctional rape though.

>>167183072
>It's okay anon, you're not in /hsg/
fuck themis
fuck tribunal
fuck every rune deck having the same opener
fuck dshift

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>>167183089
As if anyone here is up for the job

>>167183114
I want to be her naugthy naugthy

I want to play some rune that's not daria, please post some dirt/dshift lists

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What's the worst play you've ever seen?

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>>167183089
>not wanting to be ride by assertive girl

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DARIA NEEDS TO FUCKING DIE ALREADY
HURR DURR ME VOMIT FOLLOWERS ONTO BOARD LIKE AGGRO DECK AND ALSO HAVE GREAT CONTROL
ME OUT OF CARDS? THAT'S OKAY ME HAVE DARIA

>>167183268
That's why most Wolfbolt lists are just Roach OTK with 2 wolves and 2 bolts thrown in. It isn't actually a good idea in itself.

>>>/v/

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>>167183769
Calm down anon.

Rune popularity will less than Hitler this craft will be totally dead for long long years

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>>167183769
Consider yelling into a pillow or shout in an open field every now and then, I think you need it.

>>167183804
I dunno, I'm not really a fan of some sort of pure roach list, feels too one dimensional. I've seen lists with Tia and I've seen lists with Wolfbolt and I'm not sure what I like better. I've just dicked around in unranked most of today with it though, I haven't even gotten wrecked by Daria yet.

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>>167183706

>>167183672
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/3?hash=1.3.61O4A.61O4A.61O4A.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.61O4e.61O4e.66NA2.66NA2.5-gka.5-gka.5-gka.5-gkk.5-gkk.5-gkk.5-gku.5-gku.62UtQ.62UtQ.62UtQ.66IIA.66IIA.62XK8.62XK8.62XK8.62bTS.62bTS.6A9bg.62Uta.62Uta.62Uta.5-glM.5-glM.5-iRo.5-iRo.5-iRo.62Zm4.62Zm4.62Zm4

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/3?hash=1.3.61O4A.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.66IXe.66IXe.66IXe.61O4e.61QWQ.61QWQ.61QWQ.62U9K.62U9K.62U9K.62WbG.66NA2.66NA2.66NA2.6A8t6.6A8t6.6A8t6.5-gka.5-gka.5-gka.62UtQ.62UtQ.62UtQ.62XKI.62ZmE.66J0Q.66J0Q.66J0Q.61Q1A.61Q1A.61Q1A.62U9y.62Uta.62Uta.62Uta.66NvE

>>167184059
what the fuck? why whould you concede?

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>>167184238
not mine, someone posted it here.

>>167184059
Why?

>>167184238
Average whiner gameplay

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YAMERO

Anyone mind giving me a quick win? No concede, please

Room ID 79733

>bully a dshift into conceding just by playing nothing the whole game
feels good man

Need a concede, please. Thanks in advance.

86620

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Now I've seen everything.

>>167184812
easy right

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>>167141370
I typeset the comic using anon's translation with some minor changes.

>>167184598
>dshift kills you on turn 10 instead of 7
Great plan.

>>167184812
left

post result

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>>167184370
>Just kalendiscope it!

>>167184565
Thank you havenbro

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>>167184812
Took the Baha.

Got a Seraph anyway.

>>167184776
Still need a concede. Some weirdo joined and never started the match.

86620

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>>167185201
I'm sorry anon my pc suddenly stooped to work

Why is this thread so dead lately? Did Daria kill it?

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>>167185187
First match.

>>167185014
What game is that?

>>167185821
Is Rondo Duo

>>167185821
Silky smooth 120 fps penisgirl action dos

>hear weebs constantly praising this game for its superb voice acting
>play it
>"motherrrrr fatherrrrrr"

lol wut

>>167185916
>it's a porn VN

sigh, so much pontential it had

>>167186036
>weebs praising voice acting
>weebs
>"i'm sure they're talking about the dub"

You're just being stupid on purpose, right?

>>167186036
What?

Luna says Papa and mama

>>167186036
Weebs would only praise the japanese voices, not the english ones. Otherwise they wouldn't be weebs, are you stupid or something?

>>167186036
Fuck, you made me remember Luna's dub voice

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>>167186036
>english dub
kys

>>167181975
(you)

>>167186339
Some english voices are really good

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fuck this boring game.

can i have a concede?
47260

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>that feel when curving perfectly in a control deck

>>167181975
o-ogler

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I'M COMMIN- I'M COMMIN- I'M COMMIN- I'M COMMIN- I'M COMMING... FOR YOU

>>167186125
CMONNNNNNNN

>>167186526
thanks rowen

>play T2

Get absolutely stomped by a beginner rank.
Do people smurf or something for some retarded reason?

>>167186593
>tfw perfect board with 5 wards

>>167186617
>Dubcucks

Fucking disgusting

>>167186593
What is "curving"?

>>167186617
*it grasp my dick*
Er Hmm thanks

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What does the elf do now, anons?

>>167186653
>play T2
>lose to A rank with front lines + banner
>lose to master shadow memer with wheel of fortune
>lose to C rank with front lines + wheel of fortune

I was playing dragon so lol

>>167186762
>this board
The angry poster is crying atm

>>167186762
WOTF.

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>>167186762
will of the forest into heal lion

>>167186723
I can give you the short answer:

Playing 1 mana card in turn 1, then a 2 mana card in turn 2, a 3 mana card in turn 3, etc
It means not wasting your mana by playing a card that fully uses it every turn.

OR I can you give you the long answer that takes like 5 posts taken from Next Level Magic book.

>>167186762
get

fucked

roach

scum

>>167186882

I want this elf.

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>>167186762

>>167186882
Jesus man I feel like seraph'ng a kid right now

>>167186892
Do the five posts one, I'm new to this CCG thing

>>167186892
>taken from Next Level Magic book.
lol fucking nerd

>>167186723
Not wasting pp aka mana.

>>167182051
>>167182151
>>167182445
>>167181975
>>167182705
>>167183114
>>167183939
>>167186339
>>167186882
You know those are all underage girls right?

>>167186762
What did he do the first 4 turns that he let you deploy that board?

>>167186036
HEAR

>>167187150
Those are all hags, /hsg/.

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>>167187150

>>167187210
POWERLESS

Just got my second copy of soul dealer.

Am I ready to play cblood now?

>>167186907

He conceded. It felt good after getting sniped by these fuckers all day.

>>167187169

He bricked pretty hard. On turn 3 he played Gobu and then on turn 4 be bounced it with Soccer Mom.

That was enough time for me to get all the Yurius onto the board.

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>>167187150
Otohime is a wise and powerful sea dragon, she is not a child.

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>>167187024
Okay.

>what is tempo?
>what is card advantage?
>what is control? midrange?
>what is...?

From Next Level Magic from Patrick Chapin "The Innovator"

The guy is a well known Magic Champion, wrote several books, write articles every week, got his own podcast and is in the Magic Hall of Fame

>THE STAGES OF THE GAME
In any card game there are basically three stages of play that your strategy is operating at. Keep in mind, this is with regards to you or your opponent, but the two of you are not necessarily going to be at the same stage at the same time. Your stage is independent of theirs

>STAGE 1
Stage 1 is the early game.
Your Minimum Game Threshold is the level at which your deck can operate on a basic level. For instance, many aggro decks only need three lands to be able to cast most of their spells

>STAGE 2
Stage 2, or the mid-game, is essentially the most strategically relevant part of the game—and the one where the most relevant mistakes are generally made. Stage 2 is when players have the opportunity to play most or all of their spells, but the battles being fought are still relevant.
The mid-game is where the little battles are fought. These little battles are where percentage points are won and lost, setting players up with the best chance of either reaching a successful end game or ending the game before it comes to that.

>STAGE 3
A control deck, often seeks to win during the end game, or Stage 3; it wants to merely survive the early game in order to get to the point where they can play an appropriate Semi-Soft Lock.
a Semi-Soft Lock is an easy-to-reach set of conditions (which can be as simple as casting a single important spell) that will give you such an advantage that you will usually win most of your games when that condition is met.
A defining aspect of Stage 3 play is that very few of your opponent's cards matter, since they are severely limited in the ways that they can actually meaningful affect the board.

CONT.

>>167187317
Soul dealer is trash anon.

I'm sorry but you need lot of golds and legos

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>>167187150
I don't see the issue here.

>>167187315
FOOOOOOOOOR NAAÀAOOOOW

Who did Cygames hire to dub this, and why is it so hard to find that info online?

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>Three Petrifications in opening hand against Seraph Haven
Sadly he conceded after the second one.

>>167187417
AAWWW

>2 wolves
>2 elves
>2 tias
>3 roaches

Do any forest decks use all of those at once?

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>>167187384
CONT.

>THE BASIC ARCHETYPES

>CONTROL/PERMISSION
Control strategies generally seek to survive Stage 1, begin building advantages in Stage 2, and eventually reach a Stage 3 end game that will win the game for them. While these strategies tend to be somewhat reactive and tend to employ more powerful cards than many other strategies, they can typically be divided into “those with permission” and “those without permission.”
In general, most Permission-based Control decks rely on a good deal of card drawing to compliment either a boatload of Counterspells, or a token amount of permission and a nice selection of defensive control cards appropriate to a given format.

>LOCK DECKS
Lock decks are a particular brand of Control deck that heavily crosses over into the combo realm at times. The idea here is to create a game state where the opponent can no longer win. If they can no longer win, they generally eventually lose. Rather than resort to a degenerate Stage 3, these decks move to a Stage 2 where they are permanently locking the opponent in Stage 1.

>BURN
Stage 1 focussed decks, a Burn deck can mean a variety of things,where the idea is to have every card in your deck function like a Lightning Bolt, and quickly kill your opponent with direct damage, ignoring anything he does.
This strategy is particularly appealing to amateur players, but not as common among top players, as it removes almost any opportunity to leverage skill in any way during a match. In addition, it is easily foiled.
Modern-day burn decks are based on hyperaggressive low mana curves that typically select the most aggressive creatures in the format. These creatures are used to put early pressure on an opponent, while any creatures that might block are burnt out of the way. Once the opponent's life total is low enough, all of this direct damage provides the deck with some reach, giving them a plan to finish off an opponent who has set up their defenses.

CONT

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Holy shit my second animated seraph. I'm glad I dropped that fucking hearthstone.

>>167187432
Probably unknown voice actors so they felt like it wasn't necessary to advertise who they were.
Kinda the opposite of the nip version.

>>167187432
Dunno, but Elf Metallurgist's VA sounds way too much like Sayaka's english VA.

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>>167187563
>second animate

Glory Be!

>>167187563
Seraph my dick off

>>167187432
There's like 10 English dub actors total and dubcucks dont really care about who dubbed it or if the same man did every single male voice so they dont include the name because no one really cares.

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>>167187552
CONT.

>COMBO
It generally refers to a type of strategy that involves playing a combination of cards that wins the game.
Combo decks can be control or beatdown, and generally the difference is whether a combo deck tries to go off as fast as it can (beatdown) or it tries to survive a few turns while it sets up its combo (control).
As a beatdown deck, Combo can be extraordinarily effective, because often one can assemble a winning combination of cards faster than people can deal twenty damage with creatures.
As a control deck, Combo can also be very effective, as a combo kill often solves every problem a control deck might have.

>LINEAR AGGRO
Linear Aggro decks based on some inherent internal synergy among the cards chosen. The idea is that you are playing a bunch of quick aggressive cards that get better and better the more you have, each helping all of the rest.
Perhaps a better way to think of Linear Aggro is that it is a subcategory that can further define a deck. Generally, there are two types of Linear Aggro decks: there are those driven by creature type (Goblins, Allies, etc) and those driven by a mechanic (Affinity, Madness, etc).

>AGGRO CONTROL
An Aggro Control deck is one that seeks to deploy quick threats early and support them with a variety of control cards like permission, removal, and bounce. Against a Control deck, these support cards are used to protect the threats that the Aggro Control player plays. Against a Combo deck, the control cards are used to keep the Combo player out of Stage 3 long enough for the threats to defeat them. Against a beatdown player, the control cards are used to help create a position where the Aggro Control player has a reasonable control of the board.
Aggro Control decks attempt to do a better job of what it is that midrange decks strive to be—namely, beatdown against control and control against beatdown.
Tempo is often more important in these sorts of decks than in most others.

CONT.

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>>167186804
Bullshit like this is why I STILL haven't gotten a single 5-0 in 3 months of playing.
There's always one match the game decides to fuck with me and give me an insanely shitty hand/strong opponent.

This forest just flipped fairy beast for the second time.

SEND HELP

>>167187563
Does it turn into an animated clay golem if they Petrify it? Or does it need to be an animated Petrify.

Is Liza okay?
She's won me a lot of games, but I feel like I could replace her and do better overall.
Not sure what with though.

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>>167187150
thanks for the (you)s, if you wanted us to post more just say so.

>>167187564
Pretty much

Famous JP VAs are a huge selling point and can make a game really popular because of the big name VAs.

English VAs is just grab a random actor off the streets and pay them peanuts for their lines.

>>167187603
What I have found suggests it was in California, so it's possible that it's the same chick. But ANN is the only site I know of that has decent coverage, and while it will list if an actor was in a game, it doesn't give the game its own page, so it's hard to get anything more.

>>167187384
>>167187552
>>167187735
Most bullshit shit I've ever seen plus I don't like those aggro/shit terms.

>>167187849
That kind of depends on the production. For all of Funimation's flaws, they are trying to build a stable of decent actors and create that sort of following.

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Finally my first 5-0

On a scale of meme to 10 how useful is pluto?

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>>167187735
CONT.

>CARD ADVANTAGE
Card Advantage (or, more accurately, Card Economy) is one of the most important concepts in Card Games.
Card Advantage is really just the positive side of the spectrum of a concept known as Card Economy.
Card Economy deals with the one primary resource that a player has that is both initial (seven cards in hand) and residual (one draw phase every turn). Card Advantage, at its core, is about permanent resources, advantages that do not disappear on their own. Cards are the fundamental example, and every other sort of permanent advantage is spoken of in terms of “cards."
Whenever you summon a creature, cast a spell, or put any permanent into play, you are generally dealing with a variety of costs. The primary costs to a card are the casting cost (or land drop) and the card itself.
One of the most important concepts in all of Magic theory is that whenever you play a card, it is not just the casting cost that you are paying. You are also paying the card! When you cast a Giant Growth to power up one of your creatures, the Giant Growth is gone from your hand. You now have one less card to work with.
I know that this may come across as basic, but that is the point: we are talking about the basic building blocks of Magic. With a proper understanding of the basic components of Magic, we can better evaluate everything from in game decisions to deckbuilding to evaluating new cards that come out.

Every single card is either about giving you more and better options or denying your opponent options.
The idea is that cards are just ways that you spend mana and that the player who gets more mana worth of value tends to win more games.

CONT.

>>167187994
>Funimation

lamo
I dont have enough laughing pictures for this shit.

Not even the dubcuck audience likes funi

>>167187797
delete this

/svg/ as a platform has never been that good for discussion, but modern TCG communities have fallen very deep into the hole of becoming echo chambers. Every few days we get a "Hi I just hit master and I think XXX" post where regardless of what the poster says, people either agree because they feel they can't contest someone higher ranked than them or because it agrees with their opinions. There are master players running around on this general saying that Seraph needs to be nerfed, claim that aggro is countered by dragon, believed Nepthys would save Shadow, and that forest loses to blood.
Here's an unpopular take. Master is free for anyone who wants it. You shouldn't be worshiping players for just their rank if they can't defend their stances and explain why they say the things they say. If you can get them to illustrate their beliefs and you believe their explanations, it's on you now. The problem is that the current climate has stifled independent development of the individual's ability at card games and you don't even see questions being asked. The big meme of RoB is Daria, but does the hatred of Daria stem from just hatred of the deck like Elana was or is there more to it?
Things get repeated and repeated until it's accepted as fact. It's hard to blame as Hearthstone caused a large resurgence in TCG popularity so there are many new players. The problem is that these new players aren't developing the mindset you need to succeed in and understand card games.
Here's a bit of a conundrum if you were caught up in the /svg/ hate train. If I ask the following opposing questions, can you honestly say to yourself you understand both? They're basic questions but I feel as if even this would be difficult for some people on this subreddit. Why would you consider Daria overpowered if she has multiple bad matchups and a 53% overall winrate? On the reverse, if she has bad matchups why does everyone still bring her to tournament if that's what is expected?

1/2

>>167188069
I will not, I have to know or it will keep me up at night.

>>167187998
Good job anon.

I only get 2 5-0 anmd with my boy rowen

>>167188003
3

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>>167187150
The best.

>>167188059
They're way better than garbage studios like BangZoom. Their simuldubs can be slipshod, but the productions they put time into are solid. Panty and Stocking was genuinely a good dub.

>>167187817
Liza is great but OTK roach cuts her to get a guaranteed roach from gobin mage. If you want to play tempo elf, keep her otherwise use roach as your only 2pp follower.

>>167187797
Needs to be animated Petrify

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>>167187150

>>167188138
Now, this doesn't mean you can't have opinions and feelings about the game. Is Daria overpowered if you exclusively look at win rates? Not at all, but that doesn't mean you can't make a good case for why she's bad for the game. You can still say this meta sucks and be completely justified. If players don't find the game fun, it doesn't matter how balanced a game is. The problem is that it's all too common to see people complaining about cards they just don't like. If they give nerf suggestions, it's typical that their fix would more or less remove it from the game as well.
All I ask is that we start being more critical of what's posted in this subreddit. There's plenty of resources to help. Shadowlog exists and for the most part, popular deck stats are pretty accurate. There's no excuse for people to still think Sword is dead or that Blood beats Forest. There's plenty of translations of analysis from top ranked players that go beyond the typical reddit "I feel this way because I don't like it" posts. Reach out to 4channers and streamers that you think know what they're doing. I'm sure they'd be happy to help.
TLDR: /svg/ sucks but for the love of god, please stop submitting to the echo chamber and develop your own understanding. The resources are there and parroting other people just causes you to stagnate.
https://i.imgur.com/SxZpPfo.jpg here's my master so you're allowed to take my post seriously now, that's how this works right

>>167188138
Yes, yes, you're a (you)farmer from Reddit, we know.

13627
Can someone let me beat her so I can get the mission complete and 100 rupies?

>>167188146
Thanks! Otohime, royal banner and assault commander really carried. Banner, otohime then buff her little guys with assault was so good.

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>have been playing for over a month
>only have two animated legendaries
>they were 5 packs apart
>it's the same legendary
a-at least she's usable

>>167188138
>>167188258
We got the reddit copypasta last thread you tard

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>>167188013
CONT.

TEMPO

As we just saw, card advantage is so very tricky because it deals with a resource that you both start the game with (seven cards) and gain over time (a card a turn). Tempo is actually much simpler, though there has actually been a lot less written on it. As a result, it is more commonly misunderstood than card advantage.

Tempo deals with the resources that you gain every turn, but do not possess initially. The most common of these is mana. The most important thing to remember about Tempo is that it is all of your resources that are temporary (hence the name). These are advantages that will dissipate naturally.
At the beginning of a game you have no mana and no ability to generate mana. During Stage 1, you just don't have the mana you need to work with. As the game progresses, you are able to build up your resources to a point where you can actually cast your spells. This is Stage 2 and the most common way of getting there is by playing land.
Tempo is more than just the mana spent on spells, however. It is the manipulation of any resource that you gain over time, but do not start with. This can include the playing of land, untapping permanents, attack phases, and so on, as well as denying your opponent of these.

The key to understanding tempo is to evaluate everything in terms of how much this resource is worth right now. To take tempo away from your opponent is to give yourself tempo, but this matters not at all if you don't do anything with it.
Tempo is only worth what you can do with it.
When you are building a tempo-based deck, the key is to figure out what advantage you are gaining as a result of the tempo you are producing. A Faeries deck gains tokens and cards, but also very much tires to take advantage of all of the extra attack phases it gets.
If you are trying to figure whether or not to throw away resources in a game for temporary gain, ask yourself what you are doing with that tempo anyway.

>167188138
>167188258
Why do people think 2 post essays are going to grab any attention or (You)s? The fact that they are pastas is incredibly obvious.

>>167188303

Have fun getting the cards/vials to make a decent deck around her.

>>167188303
The rays of light are cool on ass angel.

>18K for a face deck
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/appmedia-aggro-swordcraft

What the fuck? Is it really worth it?

>>167188356
Report and ignore

>>167187817
Liza roach and the snowman card (crystalia lily?) are the only decent 2 drops

>>167188162
>The productions they put time into are solid

Yeah like that one movie they did where the only text on screen for 30 minutes was I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR this right?

I dont even feel like continuing this argument. Its just hilarious that someone would actually defend funi, the company that had to team up and partner with Crunchyroll to not die an horrible death because both the dub and undub audience wanted them to go bankrupt and stop ruining anime for everyone.

>>167188297
Done. Thank you so much.

>>167188417
More than half of the cost is in 3 cards

If you want cheap, you can do without Albert. Alternatively play blood or shadow

>>167188392
oh i have plenty of normal legendaries, don't worry about that

for example the game has given me three lucifers

>>167188482
Oh my bad, it was for over an hour.

Funimation is really the only company that can send a movie to fucking theaters and forget to include the subtitles for said movie.

http://www.themarysue.com/attack-on-titanic-disaster/

>>167188505
>you can do without Albert
False

>>167187218
>>167187234
>>167187336
>>167187413
>>167187848
>>167188160
>>167188250
Easiest (you)'s of my life 8)

>>167188482
Crunchyroll just laid off a bunch of their staff, if you think Funimation was the company that was struggling there you know shockingly little about the industry.

>>167188505
Is it that good though? I thought sword was cheaper than this. I mean, I have the vials, I just don't know if I wanna commit to it is all.

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>>167187817
Problem is roach is the engine for every good forest deck right now, and every other 2 drop cuts consistency of the roach draw engine.

It sucks desu, Lily and Liza control deck when. I hope elf gets better control support next expansion.

>>167188562
Oh, two animated legendaries, I misread.
Nevermind then.

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>>167188607

>>167188631
It's not really that much better than other aggro decks despite being way more expensive

>>167188607
Answer my question nerd.

>>167188417
>18K for a face deck
Buddy I hope you never want to play aggro shadow
>>167188631
>I thought sword was cheaper than this.
It is; lists that aren't all the way up their own ass run 0 amelia and 0 wind god
I mean amelia is maybe fine as a tech but nowhere near core

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ninja memes are pretty fun

>>167188596
I had no idea this happened holy shit

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>>167188607

>>167188417
It's unga in its purest form, and I say this as someone who had 900 wins with mid sword until end of DE. The deck is horrendously boring imo. For as much as memelords liked to shit on old mid, mid at least had to actually think about board state and try to control it.

>>167188631
The only cheap deck Sword ever had was Banner, it's a class that relies on Legendaries more than any other class except for maybe Ramp Dragon

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>>167187817
I like liza, and it seems people aren't really use to playing against her so stuff like this happens, or piercing rune and other daria damage spells.

I just wish her effect worked against like cudgels single target banish effect.

>>167188790
should have played maid leader first for the bm