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Nuked by a offscreen CSS in the arena >>167126621

>Ringed City DLC stuff
Shills will post detailed information on February 8
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igomOLwqsV0
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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this one has feet
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MOMMY ROSARIA
MOMMY ROSARIA
MOMMY ROSARIA
MOMMY ROSARIA
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>>167169867
Aye, and a good look leg. I'll stay here.
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The following statistics have been confirmed by MrIwont4get as being very similar, if not completely accurate. He is a Dark Souls content creator and pillar of the community. He has just returned home from a trip to a special Bandai Namco press conference, where select individuals were given the opportunity to play the new DLC for Dark Souls 3, The Ringed City.


Archdragon Greatshield +5
100% physical
75% magical
100% fire
14% lightning
75% dark
87 stability
39 units
60 strength to wield, C scaling.

Weapon Art (35 FP): Encases the Archdragon's head in an ancient armor, granting it nigh-indestructibility, and making its wielder impervious to harm.

The weapon has a unqiue moveset when it is held with two hands. Your light attack (LMB, R1, RB) will make a very quick bash that is significantly speedier than the same attack of other greatshields. Your Heavy Attack, ( mod LMB, R2, RT) will cause the latent power of the Archdragon to awaken, removing several durability points from the shield, but causing a great flame to belch forth from the depths of the shield, burning foes asunder. In addition, when using the weapon's jumping attack, landing will cause a small firey shockwave to eminent out in a cone, causing moderate damage to those caught in its path. Furthermore, the shield will automatically block any attacks while it is attacking, including during it's jumping attack, similarly to a previous DLC weapon, Valorheart.

Using a character with 66 strength and two-handing the shield, it reaches an astonishing 720 AR. However, much of the shield is fire damage, and as such, the actual damage will be significantly lower than its listed AR. The weapon art is astonishingly similar to the effect of the "Great Magic Shield" sorcery, however, unlike that spell, this effect does not grant Lightning absorption.
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Please, grant me death
undo my shackles
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>>167169641
If those feet wouldnt be so drawn bad, i would fap to that so bad
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One thing I'm kind of disappointed about in 3 is that most of the NPC's are there for your convenience at Firelink. Playing Bloodborne right now and it's neat that NPC's are spread out among the world. Even 1 had a lot of spread out NPCs.
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>>167170212
nice bait
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>>167170296
They're not bad, just stylized. I like them.

t. fetishist
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BEST HUSBANDO
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>>167169641
i want to asphyxiate between those thighs
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>>167170268
>big boy shirt
I remember those

Then I started going outside in between work and vidya
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>>167170212
Reminded that this spontaneously changed from 14.9% lighting RES to just 14%, confirming that this is simply made up bait-pasta.
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Went back to playing dark souls 2 yesterday. Having so much fun, its really a breathe of fresh air after beating ds3 so many times. The pc playerbase also got a big boost recently so Im excited to get back into some pvp that isnt garbage.
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>>167170751
>implying you can have fun not talking about ds2
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>>167170296
Don't be rude to Karla she had a hard life
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>>167171054
this is kriemhild you dumbass
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>>167171184
yeah but that's no reason to be mean to karla
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>>167171387
karla is just a copypasted yuria from des, fuck off
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>>167170557
>A
>FUCKING
>TREE
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>>167170751
Yeah, I'm playing through DaS2 as well, I had a great time in the Doors of Pharros today, the game feels much more fun and relaxed than DaS3.
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Do I have to cause any NPCs to become hostile and/or fail any questlines if I go for the Lord of Hollows ending?
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>>167171184
>muh snowflake oc
even worse

>>167171483
>>167170751
I tried the other day but got bored after dying to Dragonrider 3 times.
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>make a new character
>decide to use up the 5 cracked orbs
>invade a host + phantom
>kill phantom
>two blueberries spawn in and i get spammed to death
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>>167171435
yuria had a hard life too
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>>167170512
Are there more of them?
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What are the top 3 and worst 3 bossfights in das2?
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>>167171449
A sexy tree, Anon.
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>>167171560
>dyng to Dragonrider
Are you doing a fists-only no-roll run or something? How can you possibly die to Dragonrider? Fucker is easier than Last Giant.
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>>167171483
I played it recently too but I got bored of it after ruin sentinels. Boring levels to be honest. Forest of the fallen giant was neat as always though.
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>>167170696
might have just been a mistake

dont ruin my fucking hype for the god-tier fucking SL450 NG+ climbing shield
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>>167171671
Best:
Fume
Alonne
Sinh

Worst (as in, they shouldn't have been bosses at all):
Prowling Magus and Congregation
Royal Rat Vanguard
Royal Rat Authority
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>>167170296
I feel the same about the nose
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>>167171725
I don't know I'm just rusty, got throw in the water
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>>167171671
Darklurker, fume and alonne is pretty top 3.

Worst 3 is pretty hard. There are so many to choose from. I tought dragonrider was an ok boss before, but he is so fucking pathetic to go back too now. Gargoyles is also pretty boring.
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>>167171671
>Top 3
- Old Dragonslayer
- Guardian Dragon
- Executioner's Chariot

>Worst 3
- Vendrick
- Royal Rat Authority
- The Duke's Dear Freja
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>>167170557
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>>167172060

You do know that's just his conjuration right? He is alive in the Ringed City.
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>>167170268
>I'm a gamer
>not because I don't have a life
I pity the sorry louse who would wear that.
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So what's the point of the dragon transformation?
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>>167172176
to talk to the ancient dragons
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>>167172176
>>167172060
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>>167171913
...you do know that there are levers you can throw to raise all of the rings so that there's zero chance of falling into the water, right? I mean, unless you're deliberately trying to do the quick kill by baiting the Dragonrider into the water.
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>>167172176
Sometimes your junk gets sweaty so you got to air it out
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>>167171734
My biggest problem I'm having with going back to DaS2 is that they clearly went from quantity over quality when it came to bosses and most of them are easy as shit
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>>167171498
Anyone?
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>>167171560
>>muh snowflake oc
Kriemhild is an actual character in DaS3 you retard
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>>167172176
>>167170212
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If ds3 had split nostalgia for both 1 and 2, it would have been accepted better.
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>>167170212
>i posted it again!1! xDDD
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>tfw literally the only fun build in ds2 is hex/pyro mixture because they're the only things that have any actual impact to their attacks
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>>167172303
>most of them are easy as shit

Most dark souls bosses can be easy as shit(through min-maxing). The problem with a lot of dark souls 2 bosses is that they can never be challenging( through e.g underleveled or underpowered player).
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>>167172325

no
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>>167172176

People attempting to become immortal, but in actuality it's Dragons influencing mortals to recreate their dying race.
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>>167172176
Dragons are a BIG part of dark souls lore. Along with undead, fire, and castles.
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>>167172325
The only one you have to fail is Anri's, and even then all that does is save you from two optional fights and gets you the questline rewards early.

If you want Pale Shade's stuff then you also have to piss off Yuria twice over the course of the game and then get pardoned at Velka's. It causes no permanent harm though.
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>>167172507
>Hit somebody with a big weapon in dark souls 2
>that fall "animation"

Jesus. Spoiled by other games I guess.
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>>167172517
>Most dark souls bosses are easy as shit

FTFY
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>>167172517
most dark souls bosses have an obvious exploit, but you can defeat 90% of the bosses in ds2 by just using the drangliec shield or something better because they're all just "big man w/ weapon" and you can block everything they do that doesn't have an insanely obvious tell.
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>>167172461
Only if that nostalgia manifested in maintaining some of the good mechanics of 2 like power stance, a lot of missing weapons, the better elemental damage split, useful ultra weapons, and a branching overworld.
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>leave /dsg/ for a few months
>come back after I finally get around to playing AoA
>literally hasnt changed a bit outside of some new gear discussion
>leave for another couple of months until I see mention of dlc
>take a look in and nothing has changed a bit

It's almost comforting in a weird way.

So did anyone enjoy the For Honor beta while the servers werent shitting the bed?
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>>167172738
Yeah dude, same with bloodborne too. Oh and all video game bosses are easy as shit too, I almost forgot about all those!
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>>167172782
you don't even need to block ds2 bosses, just circle around them and laugh at sloppy retards
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>>167172847
>same with bloodborne too

I agree, parrying trivialized lots of the bosses.
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>>167172805
power stance is a meme mechanic, it and left hand movesets in general are only useful for a handful of build types and either pointless or actively harmful for everything else

it's wasted dev time

>>167172461
DS3 carries over a lot of the stupid shit from DS2 when it comes to online/covenants, if they had LESS ds2 pandering the game would be better in this aspect.

There's literally zero reason for them to not only bring back way of blue, but make it even more pointless AND have a rename of blue sentinels when darkmoon does the exact same thing. it seems like such a clusterfuck that could only happen when you have one group shilling for DS1 and the other group shilling for DS2 on the dev team.
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>>167172526
>>167172628
Thanks. For some reason I thought certain characters would get pissed at me for having Dark Sigils.
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>>167172845
>So did anyone enjoy the For Honor beta
Yeah but I'm scared that the retardedly unbalanced classes will make me a lot madder when I'm playing the final game and not just a beta.
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>>167172263
>unless you're deliberately trying to do the quick kill by baiting the Dragonrider into the water.
Obviously, but I keep missing it. I was sure it was 6 steps.
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>>167171613
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>>167172529
>>167172579
I meant gameplay wise. It seems like nothing but a handicap.
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>>167171671
DaS
Best: O&S, Sanctuary Guardian, Kalameet
Worst: Centipede, Bed of Chaos, Fire AoE Demon

DaS2
Best: Sir Alonne, Fume, Smelter Demon
Worst: Elana, Nashandra, 2kat

DaS3
Best: Princes, Champ, NK
Worst: Greatwood, Crystal Sage, Wyvern
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Shields trivialize everything in DS1.
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>>167172782
>>167172517

Dark Souls 2 makes it easy to beat bosses "Safely" but not fun.

The big problem with dark souls 2 bosses is that people approach them with the mentality that beating them is all you have to do. So if your goal is just "beat the boss" then the safest way to do that is extremely boring.

But Dark Souls 2 bosses are exciting if you try to beat them -efficiently- by trying to maximize your damage against them. That's why they're so much more fun in Ng+ than in NG, because "Safe" strategies don't usually work in NG+
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>>167173228
Clockwise
Yorshka
???
???
Firekeeper?
Firekeeper again
???
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>>167173295
no, the problem is that they're badly designed

bosses in other games in the series are still fun even if you turtle against them, because they're something that's actually interesting and paced properly, DS2 is a game that feels like it has maybe 4-5 real boss fights and dozens and dozens of minibosses.

You can make it more exciting by playing risky, but that applies to any souls game and indeed any game ever.
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>>167172782
>>167172905
These are both so true.

I remember the first time I ever played DaS2 I was still a srub who didn't know how to roll and only used a shield for defense and the only boss that gave me a hard time was Smelter Demon

>>167172517
You're right, you hardly ever feel tense during a boss fight in DaS 2 after you've seen what their deal is because you realize their moves are so nonthreatening that even if you fuck up it's just kinda whatever.

You can fight Artorias 10 times and still feel threatened because his moves are lethal and he can actually punish you for fucking up
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>>167173442
Isn't top right Rosaria, and Karla below her?
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>>167172905
>hold shield up
>also circle around them
either you successfully sidestep their attack and get free hits in or you fuck up and still suffer no consequences because lmaoshield

the DS2 bosses that are famous for being hard (Fume and Smelty) are just because their attacks are elemental and go through shields
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>>167173442
Yorska
Heysel
Rosaria
Karla
Firekeeper
Yuria
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>>167173158
Just kill the fucking '''''boss'''''
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>>167173456
I feel like Dark Souls 3 has less bad bosses, but Dark Souls 2 had more good bosses.

When thinking about good Dark Souls 2 bosses, I can easily fill Sihn, Gank Squad, Fume, Sir Alonne, Ivory King, 1cat, Smelter Demon, Skeleton Lords, Chariot, Velstadt. All really great that strike me in a unique way. Even Covetous Demon strikes me in a good way for being a funny boss.

Now Dark Souls 3, no boss is really that bad save a few, but none also strikes really hard besides the last 3.
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>>167173145
>the retardedly unbalanced classes
I should've known. Almost every pvp game I play will always have unbalanced gameplay. I don't know what I was hoping for, especially since it's Ubishit.
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Are there any medium shields in Ds2 with shield bash?
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>>167173228
Can u post full image?

a link would be enough
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>>167173702
I don't wanna just >imply at you and disregard your whole post, but cmon skeleton lords are a good boss? That's like the biggest example of how DS2 fails in design. Just beat up a bunch of skeletons, either you win instantly because you have good sweeping/aoe moves or you get chained to death
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>>167173731
also
>"""competitive""" pvp game
>you can grind for gear with better stats
>the retarded buy-lootboxes system is stolen straight out of f2pshit

>>167173761
every shield in ds2 has shield bash if you 2h it
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>>167172991
>There's literally zero reason for them to not only bring back way of blue, but make it even more pointless

WoB actually works this time around, what are you on about?
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>>167173228
Heysel > Rosaria > Yuria > Firekeeper > Trashbag > Karla > Dungeon Fetus > Yorska
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>>167173761
No, it's all either parry or spell parry, with one instance of a shield that can be used to cast Sorcery instead of either.
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>>167172517

>Most dark souls bosses can be easy as shit

Ruin Sentinels, and Belfry Gargoyles are pretty hard fights, but they're the only curveball until LGK.

Everything is pretty easy, although NG+ Flexile Sentries is pretty annoying because of that water mechanic.
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>>167173702
Is this a shitpost?
Because if not you've got one shit opinion
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>>167173820
That's the full image, but that artist (scathegrapes) has many others.

>>167173908
Switch Firekeeper with Heysel, those stirrups are the stuff of dreams.
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>>167173854
It's a fun simple fight, it may be not super epic, but the music and the arena make it unique in a strange way. It's hard to explain, but they feel like a boss from an old game or something.

It's similar to how I like Gank Squad. Sure it's a shit boss from a design standpoint, but I like the fight by how much pressure it puts over you, with those heavy drums playing in the background and the helplessness of being overwhelmed by an organized squad.
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>>167173886
it works better because they removed soul memory, but way of blue literally is not a covenant in ds3. You can't level it up, and you don't even have to talk to an NPC to swap to it, just equip the patch, there's no reason why way of blue couldn't just be a ring, because that's literally what is it, just one that requires you to temporarily remove your covenant.
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>>167173854
m8
You can't just say "beat up a bunch of skeletons" when you have a giant skelly boss where you instantly win by breaking his bitch bracelets.
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>>167172845
>take a look in and nothing has changed a bit

No shit, you'd think people would've gotten tired of bitching about DS2 by now.

I'm with the first guy, For Honor was cool but crazy unbalanced and it'll probably stay that way. Even if they bring some semblance of balance to the game people will go online and ask what's the most OP so every fight will feel the same.
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>>167173280
I feel like people underrate princes. It really is a very fun fight once you get the movement down.
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>>167174197
I only came to appreciate it in my SL1 run.
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best weapon for a hex/pyro build? Everyone I play against that uses hexes uses a katana, but I dunno if that's actually the most effective one or just that people who would use dark magic would use a katana for edge reasons.
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>invade in dragon barracks both SL 90 and SL 100
>almost never any phantoms with the hosts

What's with this area? Feels good either way.

Maybe a bit too easy
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For DSIII, what's the best quality build weapon? I really like the Black Knight Greatsword but I can't buff it at all.
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>>167174380
PvE or PvP?
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>>167174380
I personally use the Lothric knight sword, with carthus flame buff.
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Doing my second Das 2 playthrough and I wanna do something a little different as I always do pure melee.

Is str + fth good in this game?
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>>167173287
>tfw I never thought to use a shield on that boss since I assumed that they were unblockable due to the boss being fuckhueg
Would have saved me so much time on my first playthrough, but I guess I sorta-kinda was forced to git gud at dodging instead.
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>>167174464
Not that anon but I would like to know what's for PvE.
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>>167174123
>it works better because they removed soul memory

Soul memory wasn't the issue, the WoB just had shitty matchmaking in DS2. That's why low SM sentinels still didn't see summons.

>way of blue literally is not a covenant in ds3

FROM seems to disagree and I'd much rather have the WoB covenant item not take up a ring slot.
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>>167174292
>What's with this area?

Overconfidence, perhaps? People also tend to keep their Darkmoons as much as possible for proofs that never come.
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>>167174610
Anything.
PvE doesn't matter.

There is no best weapon for PvP, but it's either
Black Knight Shield + Lothric Knight Sword
Washing Pole
Carthus Curved Sword

An important note is that almost everything in the game is quality.
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>>167174560
it took me blocking one of the rock throwing giants in blightown for me to realize that dark souls isn't as realistic as I thought

>>167174623
>FROM seems to disagree
from also thought soul memory was a good idea, and instead of giving it the easy fix of "it's just your level + current loadout" they EVENTUALLY introduced a ring that absorbs your souls (that you have to buy from a mechant that's petrified, somewhat hidden away and in a room full of respawning exploding enemies)
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>>167172176
Introducing path of the dragon covenant
>after 30 scales, you are allowed a divergence
>your torso stone is removed and replaced with your choice of one of the following
>pale dragon stone
Assume the form of Seath the Paledrake. Passive boost to sorcery, head stone breath turns into a laser that leaves crystals when it hits the ground, which deal half the damage of the laser, scales with int.
>archdragon stone
Assume the form of an everlasting dragon. Passive high physical defenses and some poise that scale with vit.
>black dragon stone
Assume the form of a calamitous dragon of old. Passive medium elemental defenses (including lightning). Breath attacks are yellow/black and deal less damage but more poise and stamina damage
>abyssal dragon stone
Assume the form of the pus that inhabits the soul of man. Passive moderate general defenses, high dark, low fire.
>slumbering dragon stone
Assume form of the poisoned dragon, survivor of the miasma. Passively poison enemies around (as if wearing the moon butterfly set), weapons hitting you lose quintuple durability, breath continuously leaves toxic clouds. Some elemental defenses

NEVER
FUCKING
EVER
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>>167174747
>from also thought soul memory was a good idea

OK.

That doesn't explain why you think a covenant item taking up the covenant slot is a bad idea.
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>>167174197
Homoprinces are pretty great. I just wish Lorian was a little more difficult to take down since it's always the second stage that shines the most. It's the same as their uncle's fight, you have to get pass a shitty intro stage in order to fight the real thing.

Also fighting a cripple is so weird. I don't know if I'm suppose to laugh or feel sorry about fighting a armored retard literally on his knees. Personally I believe the aesthetics would improve if we fought him standing and only until he reaches half bar he starts to crumble then can't stand anymore and starts kneeling. Difficulty-wise, make Lothric bless and very slowly heal him instead of only doing teleport support. Lorian doesn't last too long to be a threat because the only thing he has going for him is teleport wailing that will get you because you lose lock-on.
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>>167173442
Yorshka, Hyesel, Rosaria, Karla, Firekeeper/Creamfilled, Yuria
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>>167174914
Would have been cool if it starts with Lorian standing and then phase two has Lorian unable to walk
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>>167174914
>It's the same as their uncle's fight, you have to get pass a shitty intro stage in order to fight the real thing.

I don't remember Gwyn having a second stage.
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>>167174514
Literally any build is viable, because you'll almost always find a weapon that'll fit your build.

Faith is shit offensively in the early game, but you will get some pretty useful defensive spells until then. It gets much better once you pick up a few specific spells. You can also sub-class in Pyromancy in the meantime, there are some good fire-based weapons you can pick up early in the game.
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>tfw twinspears rolling l1 leopoke for 490 damage

Feels good. I wish Twinspear R2 was the Partizan horizontal sweep.
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>>167175113
That's a shitty joke. Sorry I triggered you with my headcanon.
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>jump on bed of chaos' root
>start going for the chaos bug
>get one-shotted from 75% health by a firestorm
fuck this boss fight and fuck miyazaki
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What's the deal with the stone demon before the garden in DaS? I'm only doing 40 points per hit. Is it vulnerable to something in particular?
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>>167175232
That's shitty headcanon. Sorry I triggered you with my joke.
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>>167175263
The firestorm can never oneshot you if you keep yourself at full life (most of the time)

Still a shitty boss I agree
fuck yoiu miyazaki
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>>167175147
Yeah, I guess I've literally never done any magic/miracles/Pyro in any of the souls game so I really don't know what's good or not.
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>>167174464
Pvp for now, I probably won't pve on this guy until the new dlc.
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>>167175263

Quit my recent playthrough of 1 once I fell into the pits in that boss. Where's the no-clip table?
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>>167175331
That's a shitty >lion. Sorry I triggered you with my (You).
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I hope that a straight sword in the dlc has a reversed longsword 1H/2H moveset.

Would be nice to have a quick horizontal-swinging weapon that has good R2 pokes. The 1h moveset doesn't get a poke but rather a wide horizontal sweep.
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>>167173145
same, but Im really optimistic that gittin gud, going through the learning curve of understanding how to play match ups, and reflexively using the right tech for the right situation will smooth that problem out

>>167174165
kek

yeh lets hope it doesnt go that way, but its an all too real posibility
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>>167174273
das2? if you want the most meta/OP option for a hex build, probably either fume sword or a dark ice rapier

crypt blacksword does massive damage too, but it requires 40 strength and has the greathammer moveset instead of the fast-as-fuck straightsword/rapier ones

katanas don't have any special benefit from hexes but they have a good moveset and you can use just about anything with dark infusion + buff
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PERSONAL COMPUTER

FIGHT CLUB
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>>167175465
That's a shitty (you). Sorry I triggered you with my Lion.
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>>167174514
faith was OP as shit at launch then lightningspear got nerfed into the ground (25% less damage, ONE THIRD as many casts as at launch) and now it's now useless
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Hey /dsg/, what are some areas that you used to HATE, but now as time has past you learned to enjoy it a lot, and now actually really likes/love that area? The bigger the disparity between the two the better.

Mine is Shrine of Amana, the fucking projectile spam along with the pajama knights used to make me so fucking mad, but now, i really feel the area is one of the most fun in DaS2. While the structural level design is not good, the enemy placement along with the lizard like hollows in the water, the plants to guide walkable path, the little side paths to explore, and the mixed problem of facing melee enemies while paying attention to the sound of the projectiles all help to make a nice challenging area. And if you really want there is a "easy way" to face it, since most encounters bar one are all easily kitable with a bow if you want to not take it the "hard way"
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>>167175557
>tfw stuck at work

it's okay. nobody likes it when i host anyway because they're so shit they can't stand playing unless they get to do it like an absolutely piece of shit playing ultrapassively while spearfagging and abusing hornet rings.
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>>167175701
catacombs in das1, learned to love it when started invading
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>>167175653
That's a shitty edgelord. Sorry I triggered with my meme.
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>>167175775
>unless they get to do it like an absolutely piece of shit playing ultrapassively while spearfagging and abusing hornet rings
I'll take things that never happened for 200
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>>167175989
Not him, and it's been a while since I've been to an FC, but I do remember tons of people hiding behind shields with spears and these days it wouldn't surprise me if everyone was just spamming caestus parries with the hornet ring on.
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>>167175653
>Hunter Pepe.png
>it's an Abyss Watcher Pepe

Reeeeeeeeeee
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>>167174560

Ha I thought the same thing which led to a bunch of unnecessary deaths when I started. When I realize how stupidly strong my character is with his shield up the game became FAR easier.
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>>167175939
>>167175653
>>167175465
>>167175331
>>167175232

/ D S G /
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>>167176156
>implying those aren't the same thing
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>>167175362
DaS2 is different in that regard, since they took the time to make every build viable. You won't find viable sorcerer/cleric builds in DaS3, and even pyromancer takes a shitload of investment.
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>>167175989
>I'll take things that never happened for 200
there was a thrall guy who did nothing but passively wait and spam r1 with a spear
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>>167175362
DS2 is the best time to have a caster playthrough.
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>>167175939
That's a shittier edgelord. Sorry I memed you with my trigger.
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>>167175418
why no clip? just set your bonfire to the one that drops and homeward bone. or spawn the soul yourself
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Can someone around lvl 100 have enough defense to reduce 243 are to 51 damage? And enough damage on the gargoyle flamespear to 3shot someone with 1300 hp?
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>>167176156
Sorry I triggered you with my filename
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Just killed the Gaping Dragon. Should I head for Darkroot Garden first or head to Blighttown?
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>>167176783
You might as well go kill shit in Darkroot to get some poison moss.
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>>167175701
the only real issue with amana is that it's hard to tell when the path disapears into deathwater unless you stare straight down (and get tagged by lasers)

personally I liked blightown a lot more when I played it on PC with a stable framerate. It's easily one of the most memorable invasion areas in the series too.
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>>167176783
Blighttown, but dont get butthurt, buy around 20-30 blooming moss off the female merchant in the aquaduct, stay calm and hurtbutt instead.
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>>167176987
>wasting your time fighting shreks
wew
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>>167176682
>243 ar at SL 100

What awful weapon are you using?
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>>167175658
Any other good offensive miracles?
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>>167177164
Emit Force, I'd imagine
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>>167170557
I always asked myself, the fuck's up with Sully's face? Is it made of vines?
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>>167176987
>20-30 blooming moss
what the hell man, 10 should be more than enough even without the spider shield
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>>167177306
Lots of tree/vine stuff going around in the game in general
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>>167177153
Poison winged spear, but thats not the point. Against almost everyone else I get ~150 damager per r1. Does defense matter that much or something? One of them was a password phantom but thats it. They weren't wearing any high defense armor either.
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>>167177164
there are some _ok_ offensive miracles but nothing really worth going into faith for, at least for pve

if ds2's massive amount of estus + lifegems is somehow too little healing for you then you can pick up some healing miracles and maybe grab some shitty damage spells as a side benefit on the way there, but really the heal spells are only relevant super early in the game when you only have 1-3 estus and can't buy lifegems yet
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>>167177645
>using using poison in das3
it does like 500 damage (plus 18% of maxhp) over THREE MINUTES
it's so useless
meanwhile a bleed weapon does from 50-150 + 18%maxhp damage ~instantly~
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I never liked that pyros and hexers have such similar builds in DaS3 when swamp dwellers and witches of Izalith have nothing to do with the abyss or the deep. I also don't like that LCK is a physical damage stat with no weapons with LCK requirements, so casters have no use for it, despite Sorcerer and Cleric having such high starting luck. I started thinking about ways to fix that that would be lore-friendly. Anri's Straight Sword's item description describes luck as an essential property to humans. Humans and dark are associated with each other, with Manus being the primeval man, human pine resin, humanity sprites, etc.
If LCK was the stat for dark magic instead of status buildup, then hexers and pyros would have something to differentiate themselves and LCK would have a use for Sorcerers and Clerics. Some other changes would have to go along with it for balance.
>man-grub staff new dark staff
>izalith staff no longer dark staff
>izalith staff can cast pyromancies as well as sorceries
>caitha's chimes and sunless talisman scale of LCK instead of INT
>dark pyro flame with LCK scaling
>dark weapons scale off LCK instead of INT/FTH
>hollow weapons are unbuffable, have less damage, and increases LCK by 10 instead of 5 (think of it like the blessed/simple infusion, bt with extra damage on dark weapons/magic instead of regen)
>damage rings that benefit all hexes but not normal miracles sorceries and pyromancies
>ring that adds 5 LCK
>dark hand scales less off INT/FTH and gets LCK scaling
>onyx blade has slightly less FTH scaling, much less INT scaling, and gains LCK scaling
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>>167177109
I kill every enemy when i do an area for the first time.
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>>167177365
Yeah i just like to be overly prepared, what if something happens and you end up using all 10? You would have to run back for more.
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what's the point of making Irina a firekeeper?
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>>167177306
Well he's a tree, his face is like a mask
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>>167177645
Passwords don't really adequately scale res/defenses gained through levels. A password scaled level 800 is still going to take noticeably less damage than a level 200 IIRC. It's why you occasionally see bitching about people bringing max SL characters to FC's.
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>>167178197
Make her dreams come true
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>>167178005
>casters have no use for it, despite Sorcerer and Cleric having such high starting luck.

Bleed buildup scales on luck (as do poison and frostbite), it's meant to give casters a decent way to do appreciable physical damage without much investment in physical stats. This is especially appropriate for clerics.
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>>167170557
What's he calling his SUTANDO? It'd better be at least as good as Slim Shady.

On a side note, what's with the japs and tree villains?
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>>167173287
I've never seen that animation. That's cool as fuck. Does it require a certain equip load or something, or poise? Whenever I blocked huge shit it just pushed me back.
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>>167178181
What if something happens and you use all 30? Both are excessive amounts. Except if you're the kind of idiot who cures the toxin as soon as you get it
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>>167178720
FEEL THE VOID
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>>167179053
>Except if you're the kind of patrician who can afford to cure the toxin as soon as you get it
FTFY
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So Absorption is important and defense is pointless, right?
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>>167178720
>What's he calling his SUTANDO?
DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
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>>167179201
Oh, so you're that kind of idiot. I guess it makes sense that you need more than 10. When you're already toxined and get hit again, you don't build up more toxin or increase the duration. Information readily available by looking at your screen
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>>167179272
Absorption is just slightly less pointless. They both mean very little, especially in pvp where the values are lowered automatically for some goddam reason. Just wear the fashion you like and go for poise if your weapon has hyper armor.
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>>167179053
>Ill just leave it so I have to use an estus flask because im so conservative.

Im not sure what point you are trying to make but preparation is key, being overly prepared in these games is a good thing, Being unprepared gets you killed.
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>>167179513
>They both mean very little
if up to 25% damage reduction means very little for you, i'm sorry, you're retarded
that's not counting flat damage reduction
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>>167175786
What SL do you invade at?
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What kind of estus balance do you use if your primary source of damage is pyromancy/sorcery/miracles?
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>>167179580
Might be so, but I've never died to those fucks after the first run and never bought more than 2-3 clumps for precaution. I generally prefer to get my weapons upgraded and levels up, since I usually kill each enemy once or twice. Let me remind you that if you sit at a bonfire, you get your estus back but the blowdarts don't respawn.
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>>167179753

I always have 1 more yellow.
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>>167179447
>Implying I'm him
>Implying you're not the idiot
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Why does everyone always say Dark Souls puts your character in a huge world that doesn't revolve around him and makes you feel helpless?
5 minutes into the game, you buttstab a big demon to death, then immediately get told that you are chosen and continue on a rampage of age-old demons and lords
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>>167179753
9 normal flasks/6 estus flasks for all of them.
Also chime in another hand for constant HP regen for zero FP cost, preferably Saint-tree Bellvine as it gives Sage ring cast bonus to catalyst in other hand.
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>>167179957
They tell every undead that they're chosen
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Made something.
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>>167178720
Dark Side of the Moon
Deep Purple
Angel Witch
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>>167179957
Because DS1 is one of those games that everyone projects on, that's why nobody notices that a lot of it just doesn't make sense. That said, the whole "chosen one" schtick is a lie, which is kind of a change of pace.
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>>167179580
estus flasks are infinite, poison/toxic cures are not
if you use bloomingmoss whenever you get toxic you will run out of moss and have to buy more

if you use a few estus, you will just get them back next time you die/rest at a bonfire
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>>167179957
The second thing you are told is that everyone gets told they're chosen and you should just give up. You aren't told you're any different from the others until you ring both bells of awakening, but you have to earn that.
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first i plow ur crops

then i plow ur mum
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>>167179837
True but there are only two bonfires and considering everything you have to go through inbetween, they are quite far apart with about 5-6 blowdart guys(not counting the 4 in the sewer part near the elevator) inbetween them who seem to have infinite range once they see you.
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>>167180286
I don't know what you two are shitposting about, but how fucking often do you get toxicized in blighttown? Jesus christ
Just use a shield
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>>167180383
Have fun getting hard countered by the wall
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>>167180383
>Ashen Juan
10/10
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>>167180383
>yfw 99/100 people will see your name and think thats just your real name and not look at the effort you went into make a beaner.
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Last weekend I did my second ever run of Blighttown and I didn't get toxic once. What are you guys doing?
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>>167180383
Which one of the 4 knight rings are you wearing?
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>>167177729
Sounds like str+something else would be better then?
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Anyone on PS4 available to summon for Oceiros

Level 58, +9 weapon
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>>167180663
str+more str
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>>167180472
ive got bleed memes too dont worry :^)

>>167180662
Leo
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>>167180472
>Have fun getting hard countered by the wall


>tfw I invaded together with a guy named Donald J Trump who used a greatshield as a weapon.
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>>167180663
if you're doing NG+ you can do str+hex and wield the crypt blacksword

and there are actually tons of str+fire weapons but idk how much they actually scale with the spell stats
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anyone wanna throw down a sign at twin princes on ps4? ng level 84 +10 weapon
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>>167180791
Been there
>>167180943
Are you just supposed to use pyromancy along with your str + fire weapon then? I'm trying to understand how people do "hybrid" builds in these games.
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>>167180876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFXTPD1U0RM
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>>167181186
Why not go full FTH+INT for sorcery/hex?
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>>167180952
What's the soul range again
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>Invaded by some fag in the undead settlement
>On my counter-twink dickass thief
>Apply Carthus rouge and he starts shield turtling
>2h bandit's dagger and go nuts
>Pop bleed on the hit that breaks his guard
>Hornet ring parry
>MFW
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>>167179957
Like the others said, the chosen undead thing is a ruse that the second npc you meet in the game starts deconstructing.

Dark Shouls 2, BB and 3 belittle the player even more directly. In DS2 were're just a random cursed asshole, in DS3 we are a nameless, accursed undead, in BB we're a filthy foreigner.
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>>167181186
Well the weapons scale with pyro stats, so all you need to add to actually cast shit is a bit of attunement (or a southern ritual band)

there are definitely some players in pvp who invest in spell stats just so they can use a buffed elemental weapon and never actually touch any other spells. I wouldn't recommend that, if only because it's less fun
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How do dark/resonant weapon builds work in ds2? Do I pump str/dex past requirement or just int/faith?
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>>167180952
someone helped me. thank you though!
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>>167181381
>second npc you meet in the game
Anastacia the Firekeeper?
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>>167180675
I can help, password is dsg
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>>167180134
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>>167181270
Because I want to use some type of melee weapon.
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>>167181278
someone helped me, thanks though!
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>>167181186
Hybrid builds? Its called SL 200+ 30/40 int/fai 40str 30end and 40 vig

congrats you can use nearly every weapon with any kind of elemental damage and have 160 BNS in each elemental type(apart from magic) to use any weapon buff with any weapon you choose.
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>>167181561
No one's forbidding you from running around with a melee weapon whie having magic as backup nukes
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>>167181431
In ds2 if you're doing a buff-focused build you just wanna get the min physical stats and then go full-out on spell stats.

However, because of soul memory, level caps are a meme, so you will eventually just have your physical AND spell stats softcapped

softcap for hex is 30int +30fth
softcap for fire is 60 total int+fth (can be 30+30, 50+10, whatever)
softcap for sorc/miracle is 50 int/faith
softcap for str/dex is 40 each
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>90% of all the dark souls youtubefags stopped playing
>all of them will still get the dlc before us
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>>167181431
Ignore resonant spells, they got nerfed into obsolescence. Get the minreqs for a longsword and then make a dark longsword while leveling your magic stats. DS2 has a fire longsword readily available very early in the game that can carry you all the way to the end.
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Is there a trigger to the pursuer spawn near mcduff's workshop?
I'm playing softs and he spawned every time i played the game except now
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Post your fashion folks
Doesn't matter which game
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>>167179672
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThMBbBFS41w

Except your stat screen lies to you and you arent going to get that much damage mitigation for your weight investment. The returns diminish greatly at higher levels and ng cycles. If you want to minmax, do it with your weapon.
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>>167181492
Just beat him, sorry pal
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I keep getting hit by Champion Gundyr and then not being able to recover fast enough to roll away from the next hit. Fucking frustrating. Could someone help me? SL82, PS4.
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i heard somewhere that if you wear the wolf knight set in AoA that the wolves don't atttack you. did i get memed on?
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>>167181837
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>>167181875
No problem, nice to know you beat him anyway.
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>>167182010
You got memed on
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Is moonlight butterfly even a bossfight? I went in unprepared(just thought it was a fogwall into another area) but it was over in all of a couple minutes as i killed it when it landed on the wall the second time.
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>>167180134
Fuck you! Im reporting this.
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Hello there
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>>167181792
resonant soul is still nice for poking in pvp if you're against keep-away reactive players
damage isn't crazy but it's some nice harass and IIRC faster castspeed/projectile than dark orb
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R8 Gravelord before I begin?
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>>167182084
Have you beaten pinwheel yet? And I suppose the fight is trying to teach you about magic attacks still going through shields
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>>167182007
I'll put my sign next to the Untended Graves bonfire, password is dsg
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>>167181814
walk closer to the point he spawns at? you need to get pretty close in there IIRC
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>>167182191
pretty gr8 m8 i r8 8/8
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>>167181629
No worries

Can someone still enlighten me on Soul ranges? I've been offline because I haven't gotten ps+ but I'm tired of farming sunlight medals and wouldn't helping Boss fights 20+ times
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>>167182084
I still have no idea how you're supposed to facethe magic needles that fire in a square pattern.
It's the simgle thing that still damages me in that fight
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Is Frampt or Kaathe right?

>>167181485
crestfallen knight
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>>167182225
No, should I have? and the magic was so slow it was easy to roll under and away from, I didnt even get hit.
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What do you guys think about encounters with multiple enemies, especially in DaS2?
Are they glorious tense bouts of fighting where you truly need to learn the game's systems or are they bullshit gimmicks that don't work with Souls combat and you need to exploit the AI to fight them one on one?
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>>167182131
This might be the first decently good looking female character Ive seen. But it may just be the lighting.
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>>167181765
There hasn't been a single good souls content creator in almost 5 years.
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>>167182363
Literally just roll backwards and they miss you entirely.
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>>167182409
No
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>>167182413
>No, should I have?
No it's fine, don't worry about it
>the magic was so slow it was easy to roll
Even the 6 or 8 lasers or however many it is that it shoots out in random directions?
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I haven't played a sorcerer in DS3 yet, how are sorceries?
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Just got into PvP recently
How the fuck do I survive those two-hit UGS moves? If you get hit once then you're just stunlocked into the second hit which kills you.

Seems like all I ever find is people using the exact same builds, pretty boring so far.
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>>167182252
Thanks very much!
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>>167173731
>>167173145

The only people that think other characters are unbalanced are shitters that don't understand the fundamentals. Shitty players thought that the orochi samurai was the absolute top tier character because they could side step slash retards to death. Only when they got to higher tiers did they realize that shit doesn't work on people who actually know the game and their entire mind shattered and they call everyone and everything OP and unbalanced like in the webm to the left. He's one of those shitters that doesn't know how to counter grab so he got his face fucked in.

The ONLY character that could possibly be considered in any way "OP" would be warden because his skill ceiling is incredibly higher than the other characters, but his floor is incredibly lower. This means bad players with warden will get absolutely smashed in by everyone and everything, but amazing players will never lose because they understand how the game fucking works.

>>167173858
>grind for gear that doesn't actually have better stats in the competitive 1v1 mode, 2v2 mode, 4v4 more, and literally every mode except the dominion mode and is purely cosmetic in those modes
>can't actually buy the lootboxes with money as far as we are currently aware


It's a fun as fuck game, and characters are only OP if you're a shitter that doesn't know how to stop mashing light attacks and learn how to feint, parry, or guard break.
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>>167182443
I think souls combat is kind of bad with multiple enemies, especially if you are playing with a gamepad and using lockon for camera control.

Usually das2 fights against multiple enemies involve either "backpedal until one separates and you can hit him" or "use a big-AOE poisey weapon like a UGS"

or you go full MMO gameplay and aggro the enemies one-at-a-time by shooting them with a bow
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>>167182537
terrible untill you get spook and hidden body. Great heavy soul arrow is your pve bread 'n butter, magic clutch ring is also surprisingly strong in pve
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>>167182443
They're the only thing that makes these games difficult because most enemies can't do shit on their own. I never really understood why people bring it up as an issue in 2 since all of the games do it, I still have nightmares about the gauntlet before the Penetrator.
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>>167182443
They weren't all that bad
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>>167182583
go to their general, fuck off
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>>167182593
>and using lockon for camera control
Don't use the lockon then
I'm serious, just don't lockon and those fights become 10 times as easy
Of course then you run into the problem of having to manually keep every enemy in view and since you're a controllerfag that is annoying
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>>167182593
>I think souls combat is kind of bad with multiple enemies
stop using lockon scrub
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>>167182540
two things
one: UGS are slow as shit, you have a button on your controller that makes you temporarily invincible, probably marked with a 'B' or an 'O'
if you are paying attention, you should generally always be able to dodge them.
two: do you actually have any levels in the hp stat? UGS hit hard but they shouldn't be two-shotting you
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>>167182719
>bloodborne general exists
>still talked about here
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>>167182540
The sooner you realise Miyazaki has this huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge boner for berserk the more fun this game will become, use a GS or UGS for winning this game.
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>>167182443
>try fighting one at a time
if I can do that it's cautious ranged fighting or rolling and trying to separate them

I never had much of a problem with them.
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>>167182808
That is actually a souls game and included in our OP. It got its own general due to console war fags. You don't have that excuse.
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>>167182583
ah okay, if the gear stats have no effect in literally all the modes except one then it's a lot less bad
i thought 1v1 was the only mode without gear stats
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>>167182540
If youre being hit by UGS and not just able to roll out as soon as they telegraph then you are either lagging or need to git gud.
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>>167182443
encounters with multiple enemies are extremely fun in all games with exception of ds2 where it's an insanely boring slog consisting of backpedalling and baiting attacks
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How the hell do I deal extra reactionary Passive Parry Kings. I had duels last 5+ minutes with me trying to jump fucking attack, sprint to their backs or kick them.
But Roll Roll Roll, Parry.

Also whose brilliant idea was it to make sure all miracles not only have high fp cost, but high stamina as well.
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>>167182876
>someone asks about the game and how it is
>not reason to talk about it

wew

>>167182909
It's only dominion that the gear has stats. The best meme stat is finding maxed out revive gear and just running around reviving your team in the middle of a fight
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>>167182443
>>167182593
They do this right in some places and shit in the others.

For example, the basilisk pitfall or the spider ambush is neat because you have options like running away into acid or pulling out a torch.
Heides Tower of Flame meanwhile has ass enemy placement for such an early game level, especially in SOTFS with roaming Heide knights.

It's all about pressure.
Faron Followers is combat with multiple enemies, and it's good and challenging because they're designed around it.
Meanwhile jailer fuck fest is 100% you kite, AOE or get toasty'd. Even releasing the stupid wolf faggot doesn't do shit, most of the time he just aggros onto you.
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>>167181837
I honestly end up hating the look of anything I try to make outside of just wearing a proper full set.
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>>167182810
Using the Farron Greatsword made me feel like Guts in Berserker armour.

Is that sword as useless against bosses and general PvP as my initial impressions are, or do I need to git gud with it? I love it to death but I switch to the Dark Sword when I'm up against a serious threat.
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>>167182727
yeah mostly just controlling a camera with a joystick instead of a mouse is a PITA, and since I play DS with a gamepad and not M+KB i mostly use lockon instead of moving camera manually

I'll often play unlocked if I have a big wide sweepy weapon like a greatsword but not if I'm using shit like spears, and I almost always lock on to bosses because they move around so much and I don't want to have to manually keep the camera pointed at them
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>>167182950
>1h a CS
>r1 the instant you can
>why am I getting parried?
CS are for 2H. Use a SS, thrusting sword, axe or GS if you want to 1H
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>>167182996
>someone asks about the game and how it is
>not reason to talk about it

If that's your rationale then why did you even come at him with that Bloodborne business? FFS Anon I don't even disagree with you but act right.
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>>167183117
It's damage really isn't worth it be I use it anyway
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>>167182285
Nah,i used to struggle killing him because he spawned even if i went down using the wodden platform.
Besides, i'm literally walking all over the area and he doesn't want to come out
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>>167181837
R8
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>Watch a dark souls III videos
>Harambe memes in comments

Nice to know IIIs intended audience.
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>>167183214
Did you kill him already?

Alternatively, did he already spawn and then disappear because you walked too far away from him? He won't appear again until you rest at a bonfire.
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>>167183141
>CS are for 2H
Are you sure about that. Some fucking anons told me CS should be used one handed for longer range, and better roll attack.

Axes are shit, GS are shit. If SS is my only option to one hand, which one is best? I'll always keep 18STR because Black Knight Shield is good.
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>>167183174
It was a sarcastic point of view to convey how stupid it was to complain about it. Like saying "Why do you complain about this when the same this has been going on for years"
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>>167183283
The legs are a little small, try Lothric Knight or something
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>>167183309
Ye i know.
No, i didn't kill him.
I also literally teleported away and back and he still won't spawn
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Do both versions of Gnaw scale with luck? The bleed part that is.
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>>167183410
IDK then, try trekking over from the first bonfire instead of from the blacksmith's one

bring a bow and shoot those asshole dogs before you drop down though, they're a PITA when you're tryin to parry the pursuerman
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>>167183316
>Some fucking anons told me CS should be used one handed for longer range, and better roll attack.

They memed you hard. Tricking new players is pretty funny though. The only 1h weapons are the ones that are bad 2h. That means SS, rapiers and GA.
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>>167181837
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>>167176987

So I did Darkroot Garden and just arrived at Blighttown, but I remember that some anon mentioned it's easier with the master key, which I happened to have picked. Where do I go from where?
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>>167180146

>Angel Witch
>not Brocas Helm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLpvUCGCWvQ
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>>167183316
2H CS are much faster.
>GS are shit
GS have been meta since the patch that came out with AoA. They're one of the best weapon classes in the game.
>18 STR for BKSh
>14 dex for follower saber
Get a raw Dragonslayer's Axe and buff it with lightning blade or get 2 more DEX for a heavy Drakeblood with DMB or lightning blade. A lightning longsword is a good choice if you don't want to buff.
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>>167182950 >>167183316
>Axes are shit, GS are shit
m8, you're shit. Consider a mace or a spear
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>>167183645
Is Drakeblood good in DS3?
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>>167182950
Walking up to them prompts for a incoming parry so if you predict correctly, you can use a kick or unparriable attack for a free hit. Running to his back for a backstab is a option just so long as he's not one of those panicked idiots who would spam r1 on every occasion. Dead angling is unreliable but still something if you can't kick reliably or don't want to jump attack. Crossbows at close-range or any spell would work. You could've did a whiff that wouldn't be in range and then just poise stake him. Whiffs can provoke people to parry reflexively.
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>>167183719
split damage is pretty shitty in DS3 as far as I know
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>>167183719
It's the most versatile GS, but also the shortest. It's still a GS, so it's good.
Use it either 40/40 refined with a resin, or 18/16 heavy with CMW/DMB/SLB
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>>167181837
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fc
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>>167183605
The intended route towards Blighttown is to open the sealed gate in the Depths and make your way down.

The way that more or less skips the entire area, if you really want to ruin it, is to go back to Firelink, take the lift down to New Londo, and then make your way to the stairway to the side after you leave the lift, open the door with the Master Key that gets you access to the Valley of the Drakes, then go into the giant open cave right as you step outside. From there you should make your way more or less easily enough. Look around at the bottom and you'll find a bonfire soon enough.
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>>167183719
it's kinda short, but has a good moveset
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>>167183571
>GA
>bad at 2hing
>when it gives you better HA and damage for the same range and speed
Axes are only good at 1hing if it's the offhand. You can argue that 1h axe gives you more stamina flexibility but greatweps and ultras are all or nothing weapons.
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>>167183571
So what weapon should I use, Current Stats
33Vig, 18Att, 18End, 18,Str, 14Dex, 60Fth. SL99.

I tried Drakeblood GS which was shit. Lightning Duwang Twin Hammers, which barely tickled anyone even with R1L2R2. I'm mostly looking for Lightning Infused weapon since I prefer to finish off people by trading a Sunlight Spear.

>>167183645
>GS have been meta since the patch that came out with AoA.
No They're fucking shit thanks to shitty poise patch. Why the fuck do I need 40 Fucking Poise just to trade with another GS user and even then it's iffy. I way much liked HA before hand.

>>167183645
>Get a raw Dragonslayer's Axe and buff it with lightning blade
Have it, but as I said, I like having Sunlight Spear, and that Regen Spell.
On that note, kind of Fuck Onyx Blade. The range on that is really fucking big and due to lag It's like fighting a WashingPole but stronger.

>>167183689
I actually had fun with Saint's Bident, I only have 7 Vit so I can't try HA with 2HMace.
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>>167184061
>greatswords are shit because they struggle to poise through other greatswords
Are you shitting me right now?
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How much ADP do I need to have DS1-like iframes
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>>167182443
Souls combat has always been about crowd control and the only people who seem to have a problem with it are DS1 babbys who got used to using poise as a crutch.
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>>167182583
>someone saved my webm from for honor

noice
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>>167183497
>parry the pursuerman
Been playing the 3 dark souls games for 400+ hours, the only thing i learned to parry were the silver knights in ds1 and champion gundyr, i'm fucking terrible at it.
You are right about the dogs but the pursuer moveset is so easy to dodge, even with my min AGI and VIT melee mage
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>>167184061
>60 FTH Sl99
Either go 40 FTH SL 80 or 60 FTH SL120
Your FTH should be about half your SL on a FTH build
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>>167184031
GA 2h don't always combo, 1h they do. Since they're still ultras, they get to use an offhand to beat people going into you. 1h GA can also R1-warcry R2 if they're not yhorm's. This makes them so much better 1h you only 2h them to get a warcry off.
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>tfw internet is too shit to coop/pvp
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>>167184061
>it's a SL 99 memer

Nevermind helping you
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>>167184306
>GA 2h don't always combo, 1h they do. Since they're still ultras, they get to use an offhand to beat people going into you. 1h GA can also R1-warcry R2 if they're not yhorm's. This makes them so much better 1h you only 2h them to get a warcry off.
Does that apply to BKGA?
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>>167184421
It's a GA with warcry that is not Yhorm's, so yes.
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>>167182443
whynotboth.jpg

Example, Ruin Sentinels are an interesting fight [for me at least] because they punish lack of attention to your surroundings without being unfair.

But Double Pursuer can go to hell in my books, literally the worst or second worst fight in the franchise.
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>>167184171
I don't know why I get matched with Russians and Japs Alot. Most of the time we'd end up trading and both get stunned.

>>167184289
You know what, this is actually a good idea. SL80 with 40FTH. I was still doing 550 Damage with Sunlight spear which is okay.

>>167184414
I actually feel like my build is complete, and I hate SL120 with deepest reaches of my heart.
I usually PvP around at SL60 with +3 weapons, but some people think it's better to go SL74 and +4 weapon.
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>>167184558
>Most of the time we'd end up trading and both get stunned.
That's not my issue. You said that greatswords were bad because they struggle to beat greatswords.
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>>167183373
The leggings are a part of the theme.
They kinda look like burned wood so I figured they match the demon fists and FL armor nicely.

Here's a character with thicker legs tho.
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>>167184061
buffed does much more damage than infused
if you're really tied to your shitty regen spell, throw a darkmoon ring on
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>>167184558
SL 99 still faces 120, this isn't DaS 1. That's what you fucks deserve too since you'll hate on the meta but do all you can to go to the highest SL without fighting them to meme on other players.
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>>167184203
Multiple enemies is nothing to complain about in literally any of the games with the EXCEPTION of DaS2 because of how fucked up player movement is in that game.
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FC
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what's wrong with the fallen knight set?
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>>167184061 >>167184558
Try a partizan then.
and yes, do SL80 for the love of god.
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>>167184816
Host

>>167184817
Noob flag set
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>>167184817
Absolutely nothing.

Now pass the gargoyle helm, bro. I need something to match my drakesword.
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>>167184817
Memes
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>>167184817
ive never seen a good player with it equipped
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>>167184886
Yes, we need one.
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casting speed scales with attunement in DS2? does that mean a sorcerer (or hexer I guess) build is even more fun than in 1?
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>>167184817
The pants are filled with piss and shit.
That's pretty much it, I have the same contempt for same set fags anyway.

The helm looks pretty good with the exile fat boy chest.
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>>167184948
You should host
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>>167184558
what the fuck boy
sl60 should have +6 to 9 and 74 8 to 10
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>>167183981
Many thanks anon
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>>167184685
No, I said GS are bad because I can't outtrade other GS without having 40 poise. Which is shit. Which makes GS a shit choice for me.

>>167184697
I know, but it's a question of extra 500HP and tickling people to death, or making one idiotic mistake and losing entire match. Maybe I'll grow out of regen spell soon. I already have ToD active at all times anyway

.>>167184817
Someone pooped in the pants.

>>167184867
What's your opinion on Partizen vs Saint Bident. I got DMB.
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>>167184867
Have you thought about switching the chloranthy ring out for suns firstborn? The damage boost might help for sunlight spear.
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>>167185034
You should, instead.
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>>167184960
Yes, but not even because of that.
Grab two blue flames and staff of wisdom.The sword is a catalyst that has all its damage buffed from both attack and magic boosts. Power stance that shit.

Or alternatively play a hexer because DS3 deleted them.

Also I fucking miss armor pieces that had bonus effects/stat boosts on them.
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>>167184012
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>>167184809
>I'm shit at controlling my character so everyone else is too

>>167184817
Noob flag and also doodoo pants.
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>>167185231
Out fucking skilled
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>>167185136
I don't want to because I'm on PS4
Just saying you'll get no host only begging
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>>167185231
Was he about to point down?
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>>167184198
about 20 ADP, but it also depends on ATN stat (3 ATN is worth 1 ADP for this)
there's a substat named "agility" which is really what you want to look at
warrior, for example, starts with only 85 agility which gives 5 iframes, worse than DS1 fatroll
DS1 midroll is 11 iframes, which you hit at 96 agility
then 99 agility for 12 frames, and 105 for 13 (which is ds1 fastroll)
after that you get diminishing returns and it isn't really worth investing further
but if you went all the way to 99 adp/99atn you would have 16 iframes, which is better than ninjaflip

note that you get all of the iframes even at 69.9% equipload. all that changes from changing weight is the DISTANCE of your roll, and your stamina regen speed
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>>167185326
Just buy the game on steam. It only takes about 2 minutes and ~4 hours of minimum wage labour.
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>>167185334

Of course. He got owned.
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>>167184981
>dodging in a corner while targeted by a homing spell

you deserved it

>>167185334
yup
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Boss Weapons.
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>>167184232
pursuer is easy to dodge but even easier to chain-parry forever
probably the easiest boss to parry in the whole DS series actually

you even get a buckler before his bossfight
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>>167185075
Saint got more ar, but Partizan moveset is way better

>>167185121
in that setup, the sunlight spear is just a distraction.
and there is also the problem of 15end
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>>167185341
Thanks for the explanation bro
ADP doesn't change the speed of the roll though, right? It feels really weird to have a fast roll that doesn't have too many iframes
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>>167184817
It's predictably popular because
>black armor
>'fallen knight'
>great def/wt ratio
>easy to obtain very early
So almost every newcomer, underage, memer or edgelord wears it religiously. All those perks marks it for the shitter's wear.

Outside of that, nothing. Who gives a shit.
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>>167185075
that's why I said darkmoon ring nigga
18atn + darkmoon ring gives you 5 slots, more than enough for weapon buff + regen + sunlight spear
you could even use the shittier 1-slot rings
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>>167185530
Teach me how to Partizan. The R2 looks like it has barely any range. With Bident, R1-R1-R2 has 60% chance of working. I never really tried Partizen though.

Also can canvas let me hyper armor through UGS?
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>>167185204
>Yes, but not even because of that.
What do you mean? Also, hexer looks fun but I don't even wanna imagine how starved for stats I'd be, having to go deep in FTH INT and ATN and that's not even touching any END or VIT
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>>167169641
>spent a solid hour+ and at least 150 killed mobs to farm an item
>it's great wooden hammer
I am one with the hollowness.
I am one with humanity.
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>>167185610
Nope, ADP doesn't change the rollspeed at all.

It's a really fucking weird design decision because there's basically no way for a player to actually see how many iframes he has or even to notice the tie between increased "agility" and more iframes.
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What're other SLs than 120 I can make a build for that still has a good amount of activity, and how active are they compared to 120?
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>>167185781
Ds3 hexer only needs 32/30, don't fall for the memes.
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>>167184981
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>>167184960
Sorcerer is shit compared to ds1 because all the spells feel like a limp dick, both in damage and sfx, compared to the first game. Blue rose and some other items are fun gimmicks but you get them from end game areas.

Now HEXING, thats some real shit
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>>167184817
it's the noob armor of DS3

DS1: Regular Knight or Elite Knight + Gargoyle Helm
DS2: Drangleic Set + Heide Knight Iron Mask
DS2 SOTFS: Alva Set
DS3: Fallen Knight Set
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>>167185781
hexer softcaps at 30/30 int/fth, so it's actually not that much more investment than getting the 50int for a sorc, for example

however I'll say that hexer probably isn't too interesting for pve, where you will just spam dark orb all day and do nothing else except maybe resonant/great resonant soul vs bosses
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How many of you saw this and thought you could hatchet a fucker from a distance?
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>>167185909
SL35. Use Dried Finger at Undead Settlement, Farron Keep, and Catacombs.
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>>167185909
people are memeing about sl99
i think at sl99 you will still be able to invade sl120s though so maybe not the best option

you could also do some ultrameme shit like making a twink at sl20 for the settlement or sl44 for catacombs of carthus
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>>167185474
I like a few
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>>167185968
If you feel like grinding spice forever to use fun spells like pursuers or greatsword sure
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>>167185968
I don't even know what these memes are, I haven't looked up any builds
The "starved for stats" comment was just from a logical viewpoint
>>167185990
>>167186045
>hexer probably isn't too interesting for pve, where you will just spam dark orb all day and do nothing else
That's the exact same as sorcerer in 1 and I had fun with that because I enjoy overpowered silly shit
Don't some hexes need more than 30 stats though?
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>>167185736
>Also can canvas let me hyper armor through UGS?
sure. maybe except charged R2
idk man try: R1+WA+R1, R2+parry, charge R2 to roll catch those near you, backstep+R1, using the WA when the player is trying to parry is also pretty good
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>>167186241
yeah there are hexes that require higher stats, but your actual damage won't benefit much from leveling past that

if you're dedicated to MAXIMUM OPTIMAL PVP you'll just farm spices to reduce everything's requirements to 30/30.
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Someone have that drawing of two paintings that said something like "2D vs 3D" and the 3D painting was the Firelink Shrine?
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>>167186049
>Want to make a Gyrm cospoor in DaS3
>No throwing axes
What the HECK
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>>167186381
>you'll just farm spices to reduce everything's requirements to 30/30
That sounds weird as fuck, why is DS2 so weird?
Anyway I think I'm probably gonna try a hexer on my second playthrough after I headbutted my way through the game once and know where all the useful shit is
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>>167186448
If they'd been smart about it then the WA for the twin axes would be to throw them.
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>>167186059
That sounds fun. I'd like invading in those areas.
>>167186160
From what I've read, it seems like the invade/summon range has been increased so SL99 can still invade 120s, so I'd rather not do that.
I thought of doing an SL20 twink, but I'll wait until later to do so.

I've heard that SL60,74(?), and 80 are active in certain areas. Is this true and if so, what areas?
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>>167181837
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>>167185489
Not enough dex, i think i get a slower parry if i try to use it.
It's ok anyway
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Wanted to try luck build in DS3 but then I realize bow was a huge contribution in my other character.

There's no luck scaling bow, is there?
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>>167186648
>>167186049
>get throwing axe weapon in dlc2
>let loose an illusory axe
FUCK
OFF
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>>167187123
>caring this much about flavour text
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>>167184981
>doesnt know how to dodge homing attacks

Look m8 you need to roll towards the projectile so it moves past you and keeps going into the floor.

If its one heading directly for you you roll right and then left or vice-versa and again it will just go past you into the floor.
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>>167181837
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>>167181837
SOON
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>>167187262
that pretty much goes for every attack in soles gaem
roll towards not away
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>>167187046
There is not, no.
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>>167175989
Listen here you motherfucker. These anons are right. >>167176447
>>167176126. It's retarded that I get ostracized in the thread just because I don't want the extremely rare highly-elusive hyperpassive hornetnigger shitting up my FCs with bullcrap.

Anybody else that condones this shit for the sake of "oh they're so easy to beat lol free wins" is doubly a nigger because they're too fucking stupid to learn how to fight actually competent players.

t. Drake
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>>167187376
>grabs
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>>167187631
yeah there are some exceptions like grabs or firestormey things that have lingering hitboxes
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>>167187357
fatty.

Also I wish they brought back those shields instead of an ugly massive door or some shit. Gonna look goofy as fuck.
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>>167187561
Your last FC died almost instantly and in the same day we had one so full the host had to ask for a second host.

No one likes you.
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is ps4 better play on tv or monitor
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>>167187890
>Not wanting a huge door as a shield
hehe sorry kiddo no SHIT TASTE allowed in MY general
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>>167181837
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>>167188098
>SL40
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>>167187976
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>>167187901
You have no fucking proof you worthless shitposter. It was a bad FC location at a very bad time.
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Hey fc autists, keep your gay bullshit in the discord or fuck off.
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>>167182443
Fights against multiple enemies usually go like this in souls, if you dont take things slow you can easily get yourself overwhelmed

>strafe forever until they are all recovering and get a few swings in
or
>get hit once, flinch and then get hit by the rest all at the same time and then dead
or
>run and take them one at a time(i think this is what most people do)
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>>167188194
>not waiting until one enemy stops their attack string to get a few hits in one another enemy that was just trying to wind up an attack
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>>167188060
>using massive weapons that dwarf the character and make them look retarded
MAYBE if Gutsfags make their character big enough it looks ok.

But a shield just makes you look like a huge turtle pussy. May as well just equip the pig shield.
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>>167188193
why don't you just filter "fc" "pc" and "bf"?
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>>167188135
wat
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>>167187976
A good monitor is generally better than a good TV, but they're also usually more expensive. I play everything (PC, PS4, WiiU) on a pretty nice TV that I got for cheap during black Friday a few years ago.
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>>167181837
Check this phone shot though.
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>>167187890
We haven't seen the front of the twinshields though. Just wait until they release the new reveal trailer on Wednesday
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>>167187976
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>>167188332
>not making the character as skinny as possible
>not powerstancing smelter hammers
>not wearing rags while doing it
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>>167188332
I mean you're right in that it's goofy but giant wooden doors still feels pretty Dark Soulsy/medieval enough in my opinion. I think that the new light saber and fire fan look sillier than the doors, really.
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>>167188183
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/166319394/#166330218

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/166282307/#166295371
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>>167188332
Wet blanket, kys you're self.
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>>167169641
>tfw demon's souls is better than every dark souls
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>shitter gets butthurt over other players using tactics or equipment he Does Not Approve Of
why does this happen so much in DS games
especially if the shitter is calling the enemy's shit "no-skill" or "nooby" while losing to it
>lmao this noob just spams r1 to win
why didn't you parry his predictable r1 spam
>lmao this noob just spams parry to win
why didn't you punish his predictable parry spam

oh yeah because blaming others is easier than accepting fault for your own losses and striving for personal improvement
in other words,
Git Gud
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>>167185409
>>167187262
>homing spell
I had a split second of relief and thought I was safe. This is the first time I've ever seen him use farron flashsword so it caught me off guard. I'm so used to rolling souls 3 that I forget some things can phase through walls like a ghost.
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So i was watching the new berserk series and i feel like its got insanely convoluted from the movies/original series

The storyline with the blonde chick is so awkward and just crazy, its like it was written by a 12year old, she has an STD and then is taking some guy who knows about it to fuck him at an orgy and then hes okay with this until he sees the GOAT head and then thats too much? I dont know if this is japanese degeneracy or just medieval degeneracy but im not sure i like it, the whole thing with hating casca too and then taking her with her when she goes too leave??

Anyway, which do you guys think would be the best game to do a guts run in? Should i use the BKUGS or BKGS?, will also be using a caestus and xbow ofcourse, should be a fun time as ive only ever played with a shield.
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>>167189207
Yeah man you sure showed that strawman!
Thanks for the epic blogpost
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>>167189186
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>>167189186
>the sound they make when they die
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anyone got the webm of the guy getting parried several times in a row?
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>>167189207
Souls games are ARPGs and are inherently unbalanced, it's not unreasonable to point out that a lot of people rely on unbalanced shit, especially in a series where you can go into other people's games in an effort to murder them. Cheese is real whether you accept it or not.
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>>167189186
I hope they end up popping out a PS4 remaster or even just a rerelease for that at some point.
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>>167189207
you know, this works better if you samefag.
that way, you'll bait more (you). but congrats on whatever you're doing
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>>167189569
Are you saying out of all things you should ban, Hornet is the first?

There are so many worse things than that ring it's unreasonabale to ban such a small thing when it's not even the worst sort of cheese you could do.
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>>167181837
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>>167189350
That sounds the same as the manga, though I don't remember that well. Berserk animes are notoriously shit. Don't bother.
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>>167189605
Unfortunately that's never going to happen, Sony owns the IP and the JP distribution rights but Bamco owns yuro distribution rights and Atlus owns American distribution rights.

>>167189754
>There are so many worse things than that ring

Then feel free to complain about them, that won't make the hornet ring any less cheesy.
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>>167181837
<3
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>>167188148
>>167188597
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>>167189754
>only way to balance is outright banning
fuck off
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>>167189754
Salty badplayers pick one thing they lose to and then blame that one thing for being horrendously OP/"cheap" instead of learning to play against it.

Then instead of damaging their own fragile ego with thoughts like "that other player beat me because he outplayed me", they can just say "obviously i'm a better player, he only won because he used cheap tactics like throwing me when i block, spamming fireballs, overusing dragonpunch, whatever"

Dave Sirlin calls this type of player a "scrub".
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>>167189350
If you thought the grill you liked was gonna let you give her the D you'd follow her to questionable places too, and if you're as smart as that pleb you'd have noped out of there right around the same time he did because if you get caught there then you've just got a 1-way ticket to torture town.

If you want to get into Berserk you should just read it, it's really not that long because the author's spent the past few years being a lazy shit.
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>>167190050
Best armor to recreate this in DS3?

Alva / Brass / Outrider helm
Follower / Milwood / Vilhem armor?
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>>167189905
>Some one actually using grant
Holy shit its a unicorn!
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>>167190514
na man, she had an STD and she even told the guy and he was still into it, this is whats kicking me in the brain.

I know japans a fucked up place so im having a hard time with wondering if its a jap thing or just the times, it being a jap thing just somehow makes it so much worse in my brain that there are people who would willingly contract an STD.
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>>167185306
>press r1
>press r1 again while trying to change direction to behind me
>character slooooowly shifts to the right or left and goes no where near the enemy that is now fucking my ass
>rolling r1 away from enemy
>character slooooowly shifts to the right or left no where near the enemy that is now fucking my ass
Neither of these situations happen in any of the other games because they control how an action game fucking ought to. I can't even think of a reason why attacking behaves like this at all to be honest and it's the single worst aspect about combat.
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>>167174914
Homoprinces would have been twice as hype if Lorian began walking, clearly assisted by Light magic in the second phase. And instead of his pussy lunges he fucking makes use of his strides.
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>>167190925
>that there are people who would willingly contract an STD.
>doesn't know about bugchasers
oh my sweet summer child
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>>167189350
Read the manga.

Any of the Souls games can be run in "Guts mode."

Guts mode is an older challenge originating from Demon's Souls. It's rules were:

Rush the biggest swords and use those.
No shields.
Offhand crossbow/caestus is accepted.
No healing during combat.

Just transfer those rules to any game and have fun. For DaS 1-3, I recommend using the Greatsword specifically and the Dragon Bone Smasher for DeS.

Also, if you really feel like it, you can use Forbidden Sun/Chaos Bed Vestiges in -very- close range to imitate his cannon arm.
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>>167187890
>goofy as fuck
no goofier than wielding 2 massive slabs of metal
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>>167190740
Outrider helm/Follower might fit better.
try Court Sorcerer Robe with a dark helm for something similar
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>>167185792
upload uncensored somewhere
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>>167190019
>>167190052

I meant that that one specific host bans hornet ring but would allow anything else and just "discourage" those things. How is that reasonable?

Regular FCs go like this: most people avoid overly meta tactics, weapons and setups without going overboard, because we all undertstand going full tryhard in Souls limits your opitons a lot. If someone is being annoying, people naturally will avoid fighting them, unzip a harder counter and point down, call them out in the thread, or similar.
Shields for instance are very rare in FCs despite being good.

That specific host bans only that ring, which leads to needless arguments and shitflinging in the thread when the fighting players can police themselves just fine.

He also commonly hosts with a very high level host character allowing for things like a SL 180 or so to fight in the FC without being downscaled.

A FC host needs to come, host, tag signs and not allow players to fool around when they have a full one and not summon ones that are hacking if on PC or abusing glitches, nothing else.

>>167190217
That is true but Dark Souls as a series is neither competitive nor varied at maximun skill level. Most glitches are reasonable cheap tactics to avoid, as are some very strong top strategies since using one of the strongest weapons in game will just force the other player to swap their own weapon since the skill cap in Souls isn't high enough that you can have enough skill to make up for a weak weapon the same way you can in games actually made for hgih quality PvP. PvP in Souls is either making random guys mad or pretending a few dumb things can work with friends. Since we're also among people that we'll fight a lot, as funny as it is to chainstab a random guy and point down on him or use other efficient but boring to deal with tactics, no one wants to look bad or use the same boring strategies to win, since in good PvP games, good strategies are fun.
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>archdragon peak
>havel summoned
>chump
>roll roll roll poke
>run backstab
>whatajoke.jpg
>go to roll to the right as havel moves in an awkward position next to me
>camera swivels around
>makes me roll backwards off the edge of the walkway
>die

Ok.
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Someone host a fightclub
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>>167191140
Thanks, I might go for 2 since i havent played it for awhile and I already have a character still making his way through 1 and Im kinda bored with 3.
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>>167189350
Best Dark Souls game to do a Guts run in is DS3 as it's loaded with Berserk references the most.

And use the Greatsword UGS you massive tool. Avelyn with explosive bolts as backup.
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>>167169641
Londor is instesting and I understand that it's probably the canon ending but I want more of the Profaned Capital mr Miyazaki
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>>167171671
DS1
Top 3: Smornstein, Artorias, tie between Queelag and Sif
Bottom 3: Bed of Chaos, Capra Demon, Ceaseless Discharge

DS2
Top 3: Darklurker, Fume Knight, Smelter Demon
Bottom 3: Magus and friends, Royal Rat Vanguard, Demon of Song

DS3
Top 3: Nameless King, Friede, Abyss Watchers
Bottom 3: Yhorm, Wolnir, Ancient Wyvern
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>>167191505
This is the fifth or so time someone asked this thread.
Wait for someone to offer or host one yourself.
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>>167190925
>an std
>implying ONE
>>167189350
Imho, 2 and 3 have the most guts-y movesets, especially 3 with stomp
joakim (i think that was his name) left after seeing human parts in the soup
also, it's Guts, not Gatts or Gatsu. like the guts he was found in or the spot Donnovan hit, whichever you prefer. don't be a fag
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>>167190925
That's the power of love Anon.

>>167190994
>Letting enemies get behind you
>Trying to swing your way out instead of repositioning yourself

All this is doing is convincing me that you're used to falling back on poise. I'm not a fan of how DS2 handles attack aiming but you're making it out to be a bigger issue than it is.
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>>167191675
I know its Guts i just like the way the japs try to say it and it comes out GATSU
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>>167191140
>das2
>not using the crypt grape popsicle strongest weapon in the game on par with SCH
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>tfw you accidentally downrate a message

I'm so sorry
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>>167174380
literally every weapon in DS3 is a quality weapon, you're going to have to be more specific
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>>167191818
he still gets hp either way
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>>167191794
Maybe, iirc the moveset kinda sucks though?
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>>167191245
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>>167191889
They don't.
"One of your messages was rated" is just janky english. Only upvotes trigger the notification + heal. Downvotes do nothing but -1 from your upvote counter for anybody else reading your message.
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>>167191818
Tfw you drop messages FUCKING everywhere for the odd random heal.

I first noticed messages heal when Oceiros almost killed me and i was healed to full after a message got rated and managed to kill him., i think its the only time ive ever been lucky in these games.
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>>167191247
>I meant that that one specific host bans hornet ring but would allow anything else and just "discourage" those things. How is that reasonable?

Because the hornet ring can allow someone to pull an OSOK out of their ass if the other player makes one mistake and EVERYONE uses it. Opening every combo with a kick gets real old real quick.
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>>167191790
if it's for engrish memes, it's acceptable. also read the manga. dark horse, not band of the hawk (although BotH has some fun moments)
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>>167189754
That's precisely why it shouldn't matter in the first place.
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>>167191868
>literally every weapon in DS3 is a quality weapon
Only if you adhere to the meme 120 meta.
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>>167190925
The setting was medieval and there was no AIDS back then(also the setting is kinda fictional) so the worst that would probably happen was that it would burn for a while as you peed. And it's not like there were condoms in medieval times so if you visited hookers you were really likely to get an std.

Also you sound generally like someone who doesn't know how stupid people can get irl, like niggers in africa think that if you rape a virgin it cures you of HIV.

>>167191140
Love the grasses pics, it reminds me of the goofy intro song to the 90s anime.
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>>167191770
Nigga I have never relied on poise during my time with any of these games. Attack aiming in daS2 is just bad and pushes you into kiting enemies like a pussy even though that is just less fun than being aggressive. The controls are so stiff that fighting multiples just isn't as fun as it is in the other games. Combine that with how taking hits from enemies honestly feels more like you're being flicked in the ear than taking a slash to the skull and you have a recipe for some mighty annoying combat encounters.
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>>167184817
Imagine the first thought that comes into your mind when you see someone wearing the Drangleic set with Vengarl's helm in DS2

Fallen Knight set is literally the DS3 version of that
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>you have to get the friendly NPC killed in order to get his/her set
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Povertyfag here with a SL 146 NG character who desperately needs to farm Sunlight medals in the 2 day time-frame of this free PS Plus. Which bosses to people seem to need the most amount of help with?
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>>167192326
How new r u?
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>>167192112
you think you can't get 40/40 at lower levels? and quality doesn't mean 40/40 necessarily, just an equal scaling of str and dex. which is true for most weapons because the refined gems is retardedly strong
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>>167192326
Nop, all sets can be obtained peacefully.
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>>167192376
At SL 146 probably Nameless King or Soul of Cinder
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Deep Protection worth using in pvp?
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>>167192453
>you think you can't get 40/40 at lower levels?
Without sacrificing Vig or End? No, you can't.
And if you do, the tradeoff is not really worth it.
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>>167192546
No
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>>167192281
>Nigga I have never relied on poise during my time with any of these games

And yet your tactics for dealing with enemies behind you rely on aggression and seem to presuppose an ability to fuck up without getting Marvel'd. The only game that instills these habits in players in DS1, people who start with any other game learn better habits concerning positioning and timing. Your bad habits are what's leading you to make mountains out of molehills.
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>>167192093
>everyone uses it

Nonsense, I host FCs all the time and it's a rare thing to see. I never asked people not to use it too. And honestly, I'd sooner see things like fire surge, estoc turtles and crossbows against heavy weapons gone from FCs than hornet, to list a few things. Yet none of those deserve an actual ban since the players themselves won't use them often. Same with hornet.
/dsg/ will, mostly, not be assholes for no reason.

>>167192107
It's a silly thing. I for instance hate halberds in 3, I think they're the most boring class to fight against and to see fighting, specially pre nerf. Even post nerf they still annoy me. But I'd never dare ban them from FCs. It's the same thing with that one host and him getting rid of hornet, only he actually tells you not to bring it and then people avoid his FCs.
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>>167192596
I never intended to go online or make this character into a PVP one
>>167192521
Twin Princes seem to be a bit active too
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Question
In DaS2, much like you can override textures can you also override sound fx? I think it would just complete the entire Guts run experience if i could switch the FX for the greatsword out with the sound of Guts Dragonslayer, that loud metal clanging sound it makes when it hits the floor.
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>>167192879
fair enough
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>>167192281
Yeah, DaS2 manages to both feel sluggish and really unsatisfying. One of the big things that I think really feels 'off' with DaS2 is the soundscape.

When you hit enemies with a big weapon, you either get this unsatisfying chink that feels more like someone hit the plate on the drums or a sound that sounds like someone pulling a boot out of mud. The combat sounds are unsatisfying, the effects on enemies are unsatisfying, most enemies don't have ragdolls, the effects are severely downgraded from the network test beta etc.

Overall I think that the combat in Dark Souls 2 can be technically more tactical than in the other games but it also feels often sluggish, unresponsive and unsatisfying.
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>>167192951
>[CLANG]
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>>167191914
it's the normal greathammer movest
... on a sword, for some reason
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>>167192876
>/dsg/ will, mostly, not be assholes for no reason.

Hilarious, as is the notion that not banning a class that you find boring is the same as not banning an item that further tilts the scales in favor of passive play.

If you don't want to ban anything at your FC then don't. You don't need to come here and bitch to accomplish that goal.
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>>167192876
>fire surge
fire surge is excellent for pressuring passives though, and great for chipping away the last bit of health on someone you've almost killed. Like it or not almost everyone will involuntarily become much more passive when they're within 1 or 2 hits of death. Duels often become a rollfest once one side gets low.
Unless there's some other, cheesier application you're talking about.
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>>167193057
I thought the really heavy smashing sounds from greataxes, ultra hammers, and UGS were super satisfying in DS2. The only unsatisfying weapons to use were curved / straight / greatswords.
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>>167191609
Vely solly ml anon, I wirr tly to prease u with my next game.
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>>167192546
the numbers for spells like that and sacred oath are scaled way down in pvp
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>>167192605
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/141746
but again, it's beside the point. many weapons, even those that seem that should be better str or dex (40/10 or 10/40) are better 25/25
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>>167193005
If anything, this was a character I could spec into anything and try out any weapon or spell.
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>>167193057
>sluggish
But the weapon moves are for the most part objectively faster. There is a reason hollowslayer is one of the best greatswords, and it's not damage exclusively.
I fucking wish we had more DaS2 movesets imported in 3, especially greatweapon ones. DaS1 greathammer moveset fucking sucks.
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>>167193417
Profaned souls when
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>>167193383
I'm talking when they connect with an enemy. The beta actually had varied sounds and effects based on whether your enemy was wearing actual armor or not and at least imo the sounds were better.
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Recommend any quality weapons in DS1?
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>>167191569
Here's some builds I threw together really quickly. Try 'em if you want.
>>167191794
I think that the weapon is too short and wide, but to each their own.
>>167192151
Thank you. I have another picture like the one from my earlier post, but I'm putting the builds up for anon.

Also, bear with me on the "formatting". I've never done something like this before, so it'll probably look really ugly.
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>>167193840
Black knight glaive is my bae
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>>167193509
>https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/141746
>+3 +2 +2 rings
>prisoners chain
>33 vig
Now go ahead and make me an actual build, not something that dies in one riposte yet still requires you to go through several game cycles.
>even those that seem that should be better str or dex (40/10 or 10/40) are better 25/25
The amount of those weapons is considerably lower than on 40/40.
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hows my fashion
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>>167193840
Zweihander. It was my first true love.
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>>167193182
Then why not ban leo ring? It is also a ring that serves the same purpose as hornet and has better statistical returns.

Hornet doesn't make the game more passive, it makes the user fish for riposites which allows the other player to easily be more aggressive and mock them with crossbows or backstabs

>>167193203
Surge is way too safe, it invalidates whole classes, sure those are rather weak to strong passive tools like surge, but until you've seen an ultra user get chipped from 100% to death by surge with them being unable to do a single thing except change for a weapon that could try to fight it. Surge is a thing there's no way to play around with too many weapons and you can always use it as an I win choice if you get hit by them once and passive surge users spacing well nearly require you to unzip a spear and hope they fuck up
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>>167193958
buckler on the back is worse fashion than caestus
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>>167193958
meh. The cloth parts come together to look like a raggedy night gown.Instead of looking like a warrior at worlds end he just looks poor.
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>>167193876
>I think that the weapon is too short and wide, but to each their own.
He had several swords. Crypt Blacksword is better for Dragonslayer while the Greatsword fits more to his other weapons.
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>>167194037
yeah i know but caestus is gay
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>tfw /dsg/ gets triggered by unwritten rules being written and enforced
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>>167193950
why would I? you'll just make up more rules to invalidate it. just make the rings +0
>dies in 1 riposte
doubt.png
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>>167182458
Hawkshaw is good though
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>>167194018
>Then why not ban leo ring?

Because they're not the same at all. The Leo ring isn't a death if you fuck up at a low level or as a hybrid build or caster, the hornet ring very often is.

>Hornet doesn't make the game more passive
>it makes the user fish for riposites

Those are incongruent statements.
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>>167193958
It's amazing how great Vilhelm's armor could look if it didn't have automatic skinny syndrome like so many other sets in DaS3.
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imo we should ban dodgerolling, it is too strong and completely counters some weapon classes like UGS
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>>167194582
At least Vilhelm's skinny look is intentional. Shame about the rest though.
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>>167194227
The Greatsword from DaS1 was essentially a copy of his other weapons, but the Greatsword in DaS2 fits the bill pretty damn well. The main thing that did it for me was the length and angle of the blade. The Crypt Blacksword does have the same overall design, but it's compressed pretty badly (at least to me). Whereas the Greatsword has the right angle of the blade, being parallel, just about like the Dragonslayer, but not keeping some of the details... As well as being chipped.

Basically, my point is that the CBS and the GS are both similar to the Dragonslayer, but have certain... Intricacies to their designs so that neither is perfect, thus bringing it down to opinion.

As said in my previous post, to each their own.
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>about to get to NG+
>decide to swap builds before I do
>switch to Sorcery
>it's trash
>rush to Rosaria again and switch to Faith
>It's even worse
>go back to 40/40 str/dex and play the game like a non-fun allowed fag because this is Quality Souls
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>>167190050
>>167190740
So after careful thought I have put together a sequel character to Frostbit Halen to use in DS3 autistic OC lore and all

The old cleric guard Halen, banished for his blasphemous practice of the chaos flame, was to remain trapped in time in the frozen realm of Eleum Loyce. Relying solely on his secret art to keep warm in the blistering winds, and wielding the sword of his fallen war ally, Halen became tired and bitter as he slowly froze over in that wretched land. One day, a dim light, one he had never seen before on his constant patrols around the castle gates, drew his attention to an ember-loosing portal made of dark flame, extremely cool to the touch. Quickly reaching through what he believed to be his escape, Halen found himself in yet another snow-covered land, at the church of Ariandel. He went mad, and threw himself onto his blade. After lying dead in the snow for an unknown amount of time, his soul ignited again, blackening his flame and splintering his sword into the same magical force. With his helmet and chime completely frozen over with ice, and his garbs whethered beyond repair, the reborn Halen, with hateful fruition, now patrols and defends his new found home of Ariandel.

Kill me.
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>>167193669
I can shit on DaS2 for it's floaty and janky animations all day but I will concede that some of the movesets are really fucking good.
>DaS2 hammers and curved swords
>pre-nerf UGS golf swing
>great hammers
>greatswords
All the other DaS2 animations can suck a dick though, especially rapiers.
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>>167194486
With a prisoners chain, 33 vig and +0 life ring? Yeah high chances a hornet greathammer/greataxe riposte is going to down you from 100 to 0. I'm not entirely sure, but I'm sure prisoners chain belongs on twinks/low sl builds.
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>>167194582
>Wear most other armor while hench
>It just makes you look fat as fuck with a pot belly
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>tfw rectum is shredded from excess farting and pooping
Fucking mexican food.
Anyway, due to my literal asshurt I probably won't be sleeping a lot tonight so anyone got good souls let's plays or youtube channels they could recommend?
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>>167194894
>ricards, the most flamboyant rapier in the series
>sucks dick
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>>167194940
>people get actual physical asspain from spicy things
how is this possible, what is wrong with your body
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>>167194940
>Fucking mexican food
who are these fucking whitebread Minnesota "oh ketchup is too spicy for me" nerds who get problems from eathing fucking TACOS
i see people complaining about this shit with Chipotle too
what the h*ck
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>pyromancy glove +4 and vestiges/black flame/rapport turned out to be more than enough for ng+
well this is unexpected.
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>>167195030
Clearly you're not eating very spicy food, go get a hot curry from an Indian takeaway, it can be like pissing fire through the eye of a needle

>>167195043
This though tbqh
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>>167194582
Not as bad as the abyss watcher set always looking saggy and gross on players but slimming and intimidating on the actual boss. Or how leonard's coat makes you look like fat ass unless you're at MAXIMUM skinniness.
>>167195020
How did I forget DaS2 had the best version of Ricard's.
>das1 animations aren't the R2s while the das2 animations are the weapon art
A god damn shame that is.
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Official /dsg/ ban list
>drake
>________ vincent(e)
>nms
>ciaran
>claire
>duel charms (not meant for duels)
>weapon buffs (can't get rid of them without waiting it out)
>healing miracles
>blessed offhands
>anything with more than 650 AR
>sun princess ring
>hornet ring
>morion blade and rtsr (one or the other is fine just not both)
>black flame
>onyx blade
>fire surge
>crystal soul spear
>estoc
>gotthards
>dark sword
>2h greatshields
>black knight shield
>any katana other than black blade and darkdrift
>crow quills
>swapping weapons for a riposte
>hardswapping weapons
>ringswapping
>poisefagging
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>>167195190
I eat extremely spicy food with great frequency and I've never had asshole burns, my dude. even ghost pepper salsa didn't fuck my ass up.
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>>167195043
Where the did "white people cant handle spicy stuff" meme come from anyways? The British and other european countries with a strong navy raided and invaded civilisations all over the world just to get their hands on some exotic spices.
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Lady Maria is cute
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>>167195318
You always been eating spicy food?
Some people are different I guess, I'm gonna go ahead and say you're most likely the exception to the rule though tbqh, ring sting is a common thing
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>>167195262
>duel charms (not meant for duels)
>weapon buffs (can't get rid of them without waiting it out)
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>>167194940
you have really weak genes if anything spicy causes your anus to hurt
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>>167194486
Pchain not only lowers absorption but all of its stat increases are automatically lowered ~15% (IIRC) as soon as you share a world with an enemy. You can definitely be killed with a good riposte.
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>>167195030
It can happen to everyone, but everyone has different tolerances. Since I grew up on spicy food it rarely happens to me but some time ago my dad made some wings with straight up habanero sauce and that gave me a bad case of the volcano booty. I recently made some ghost pepper stir fry with the same results.

>>167195367
>The British and other european countries with a strong navy raided and invaded civilisations all over the world just to get their hands on some exotic spices.

And went far out of their way not to use them, which is why British food sucks to this day.
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>>167195521
You know curries in the UK aren't actually Indian curries most often right?
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>>167195020
>mfw powerstancing Flamberge + Ricards Rapier
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>>167195436
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>>167194550
Leo and hornet work the same, you do an action at the same time your opponent attacks. Hornet's return is huge but it has higher risk as you can punish hornet users for over 600 damage per missed parry. Leo on the other hand has slightly smaller returns but is so much safer and rewards frequently and with little effort, making it a way better ring than hornet and forcing you to play far more cautiously than against hornet.

Riposite fishing can be done agressively, there are many common weak baits they do to get it, such r1r1 combos into parries or missed attacks at close distance with a parry punish and in fact the more passive players in the FCs are usually ultra users, out of the need to be passive.
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>>167195435
Pretty much since early childhood, yes. I'm sure it isn't a genetic resistance type thing though since I'm ethnically welsh and jew.
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>>167195689
Yeah that'll be why then my man your tolerance will be through the roof
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>>167195521
>And went far out of their way not to use them, which is why British food sucks to this day.
Well, of course, it was for the rich.
They didn't hand out kumin to each and every peasant.
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>>167195367
"spices" doesn't mean "spicy"
basically every food topping except salt and pepper had to be imported, but just because they like shit like allspice or cinnamon doesn't mean the British are drowning themselves in hot peppers like Mexicans or Indians

the actual people who can't handle spicy food at all are mostly americans whose parents were extremely childish/picky/afraindofnewthings so all they ever ate was boiled chicken and mashed potatoes
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>pure bladestone

WHAT WERE THEY FUCKING THINKING

3 HOURS ALREADY SON
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>>167195689
aren't jews known for having low tolerance, food wise? didn't know about the welsh
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>>167195632
Yup, I learned all about Brit food from a roommate I had in college.
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>>167195367
US corporate marketing, of course.
The shitty knockoff ethnic meals you find in grocery stores uses cheap ingredients that aren't spicy. FOB enclaves think this is "white peepul food" because they come to america assuming it's a white country and everything in it is whiteness, so they assume the lack of spiciness is because white people can't into spice.
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>>167195831
Exactly. I figure if it were based on genes my anus would explode when I got within ten paces of a jalapeno.

this is not the case.
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>>167195020
>implying sucking dick makes you gay
1917 is calling anon, they want their social norms back
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>>167195030
>>167195043

I don't think the spiciness was the problem but I just ate a lot, then got twisting in the stomach and I've been squeezing constant, liquidy shits and it's burning up my anus. Also I feel really gassy but I'm afraid of farting.

Anyway, any youtube channel recommends? I'm mostly a PvE guy.
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>>167184981

This is unironically the worst player I've ever seen
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>>167195980
>passively spams r1

Yeah. No wonder he's bitching about this boss.
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are pine bundles worth using? how to they compare to resins?
are they just the same shit but with a shorter use time/duration?
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>>167196067
they're actuallysignificantly more powerful, in exchange for a VERY short duration
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>>167195960
I'd recommend EpicNameBro's From the Dark series. It's long and slow, but I really enjoyed it. He basically goes through the game, talking about most of the nooks and crannies of it.
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>>167196067
10 second duration in exchange for more power, it's basically Tonitrus turned into consumable buffs, they are awesome.
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>>167196067
Extremely fast to use, stronger than resins, but only last 10 seconds.
They're extremely worthwhile, buy a stack every time you head back to the shrine and always keep them on your hotbar.
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Ive beaten every boss in ng+, i didnt really do any sidequests this time around and in an effort to get more embers i tried to start greirats quest. I sent him for the first pillage in the undead settlement and did the dlc area came back and hes still not back. What do pls help i just want embers
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>>167196149
Sounds good, thanks for the recommend.
A friend of mine sometimes talks about A German Spy, you ever heard of them or know if they're decent?
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>>167196406
>A German Spy, you ever heard of them or know if they're decent?
intelligent nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor :^)
someone post the pic, you know the one
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>>167196058

I think he's talking about the guy who can't dodge the projectiles

Because that webm was the literal definition of being fucking bad at the game
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>>167170268
Can we get one with just solaire
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>>167196860

Nah. He's definitely talking about the shitter fighting a ""hardcore"" boss.
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>>167195441
>all of its stat increases are automatically lowered ~15% (IIRC) as soon as you share a world with an enemy
you're literally pulling shit out of your ass and presenting them as arguments to refute a point that doesn't even matter. just stop
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>>167196538
Thank you Archdrake
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>>167195673
>Leo and hornet work the same, you do an action at the same time your opponent attacks.

If we're just going to boil everything down to childish simplicity then I may as well come back at you with
>Fire surge and fireball work the same, you project fire at your opponent

What you don't seem to get, or are intentionally ignoring, is that for the Leo ring to work I need to get hit, and in a certain state from a certain type of attack. I can theoretically win a fight without getting hit, I cannot win a fight without hitting the opponent. Since I must hit the opponent they can just sit back and wait for me to make 1 single mistake and then kill me outright, which can often be done through pure luck. These things are not equivalent.

While I'm at it I'll point out that moving this argument towards relativism isn't doing you any favors because the statement "I think X is cheesier than Y" doesn't make Y any less cheesy.
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>>167196538
i have a bunch of vids i could link but no idea which particular pic you're talking about
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>>167196406
I'm a huge fan of A German Spy. He's quite entertaining and knows a lot about foreign culture, which shows in some of the series he's done. I'd recommend any of his works other than his Dark Souls 2 stuff. He didn't enjoy that game, so his videos of it aren't very enjoyable to watch.
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Whats the better great sword Lothric Greatsword or FUGS, or is there a better one, I really like the thrusting attacks
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>>167197376
LKGS
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>>167196538
Thank you Archdrake.

Also, anybody really want Archdrake bathrobe or pyjamas? Would be comfy as fuck to wrap into that kind of clothing while dozing off to sleep.
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>>167197376
lorian ugs needs only 27STR to work on almost full potential and has lothric knight ugs moveset
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>>167197497
I really miss Archdrake set.
The closest thing would probably be the archdeacon robes, but they're not as fluffy.
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>>167196406
>A German Spy

Fedoralord incarnate, arguably the most spergalicious in a community full of spergs. I haven't even watched any of his videos but I personally dislike him because he's shown up to a lot of streams and shat up the place like Lucifer.
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>>167197043
no u
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>>167197497
I can't walk around the house without pajama pants and one that's modeled after Archdrake knights would make it twice as comfy.
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>>167197707
i wonder who the fuck wrote those descriptions
it's like they are written by Patches
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>>167195262
>any katana other than black blade and darkdrift
>poisefagging
>gotthards
>dark sword
>crystal soul spear
>morion blade and rtsr (one or the other is fine just not both)
>black flame
>onyx blade
Abstract shitposting
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>>167197486
>>167197550
Infusion?

also i have 60 strength should i respec and put it into something else?
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>>167197850
>banlist
>shitposting
woah indeed
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>>167197893
They're both quality weapons so refined.
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>>167197893
stop at 50 STR at most (maybe even 40 if you don't use smup's or fugs) and put points into something else, 60 STR is an absolutely retarded thing pushed by people who don't understand shit in build creation
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>>167197850
t. Vincente
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>>167195669
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>>167198013
>people who don't understand shit in build creation

that would be me

i wanted to make a build where i could wear havels full set of armor and not fat roll, so i have like 63 vitality plus havels ring and i just dumped the rest into str and vig with no second thoughts.

so 60 vit, 50 str, idk how much dex and the rest into vig and end?
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>>167198230
i remember a guy who posted webms of fairly successful invasions with full havel and lorian ugs some time ago, that seems to be the weapon of choice for ugs users who want to be poisetanks because you can constantly keep self-buff up and with just 27STR that thing goes up to 700AR
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Favorite Das 2 weapons?
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>>167197808
That knight looks really happy.
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>>167197850
>>black flame
>>onyx blade

I'm sorry, are you upset because pyromancers finally have something good in a Souls game?
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>>167198437
Chaos rapier, manslayer, puzzling stone sword, blacksteel katana, and honorable mention to the lightsaber for looking cool.
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>>167198437
How about across the series?
Demon's: Of course it's the Bone Smasher
1: Gold/Silver Tracers
2: Bone Fists, of course
BB: Burial Blade
3: Valorheart
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>>167198437
take a wild guess
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>>167198473
>implying you wouldn't be happy for a night of respite surrounded by fluff and cuteness
>away from the blood hurling carnage that are crusades
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Spent 20 mins trying to make him look as much like guts as possible but i dont think anything im doing now is making him look any more like him, i cant get the nose right or the facial shape.
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>>167198437
ds2 only has one weapon for all i care and that's bone fist
though even that thing weren't enough for me to not drop my last playthrough because of how shit ds2 is
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>>167198616
>finally
>Implying pyromancy hasn't always been great
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>>167198437
SAAAAANCTUM MAAAACE
plus rotten pine resin
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;_;
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do you guys listen to music while playing souls?

i do not.
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>>167197175
The argument is that if something is cheesier than X and X deserves to be banned because it's cheesy, then Y deserves to be banned for being cheesier. This would quickly snowball as there are players who consider certain cheeses way worse for the game. Like I said up there, the surge cheese.

The comparison between leo and hornet is that they both predict and attack reacting to what you expect your opponent to do, both work unreliably against large weapons outside certain situations, both are counters in a sense. You can also theorically win a fight only hitting an opponent during certain moments. Leo works like this too, since you NEED to attack, they can r1 when you do and beat it
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>>167198840
Is that who did the mo-cap of the skeletons?
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>The first jailer , an inhabitant of the Profaned Capital who managed to escape its collapse and was recruited by Pontiff Sulyvahn to oversee the path leading to Boreal Valley . Perhaps the screams emanating from the Ashen ones helps him forget his old home.
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>>167198840
By their faces, might be just her
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>wolnir suddenly summons a horde of skeleton as his first action
>then takes out his sword
>spams miasma breath repeatedly
>does wog attack with a sword
>starts climbing like crazy while i'm getting assaulted with respawning wheel skeletons from all sides
WHY THE FUCK HE AIN'T ALWAYS LIKE THIS
It's like Nito done right, holy shit.
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>>167198891
i listen to https://youtu.be/PrYPqtWWB3s
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>>167196346
You need to kill a boss to progress Greirats' sidequest. Did you kill any DLC bosses? Also if you take too long you risk him dying.
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>>167198437
>fast wombo combo gs
>slim and long
>top swag stance
Loyce greatsword
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>>167198616
Check the post he replied to
>>167198437
GREATSWORD
bonefist is also pretty gud
>>167198824
It was pretty shit in 2
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>>167198824
I mean in terms of weapons to use. Yeah, DS3 gives us a TON of really good pyromancy SPELLS, but before the DLC all we had were stupid meme weapons like chaos Thrall axe or Witch's locks

Either that or use Carthus flame arc on literally any buffable katana

Now we get an ACTUAL GOOD WEAPON? And it adds variety in the form of Strength scaling? Fuck yeah, dude!
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>>167199030
I think Stefan says the reason I hate that boss really well.
>BULLSHIT COMIN' AT ME FROM ALL SIDES
>NOWHERETORUN
>NOWHERETOHIDE
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>>167198940
>the first jailer
>fashion isn't deviated from the rest
learn to OC
>>167194841
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>>167196346
>i just want embers
invade*

*may require being Good At Video Games
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>>167198437
PUGS
Orma and Reeves
Ashen Knight Sword
Sacred Chime Bell
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>>167199030
Yeah, it's odd how rarely he uses all of the abilities he actually has.
Then again, there's a few other bosses in the series like that.
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What's are some bad boss designs you personally hate?

>This fucker isn't even that hard of a boss but the main challenge only comes from killing the dogs first and maneuvering through the shit area.
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>>167199030
>run to to his hand on your left as you enter
>destroy bangle
>dart over to right
>wait for him to slam his hand down
>destroy other two bangles

>fight over in less than a minute

Sure.
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>>167198940
Bad pasta
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>>167199236
You are right, he is easy, i killed him first try, just run up the stairs and kill the dogs then drop down and fight mr. telegraphmcgee.
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>>167198806
It might be the angle, but try to make his chin/jaw more angular. It's a bit too round. Make the nose a touch more narrow and try to make him a bit more tan.
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>>167199236
Any boss that has a load of mob enemies with it. Any of them.
It's in every fucking game in the series, and it's never anything other than a chore.
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>>167199236
No contest.
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>>167199236

Same, it's one of the few in the series I think is genuinely bad, because the difficulty is predicated on whether they attack after you go through the fog door before you can get somewhere to fight them from.
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>>167199190
Exalted-tier taste right there, bud.
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>>167169641
Is there a less fun boss than Bed of Chaos?
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>>167199236
D'ya like dags?
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>>167199404
Yeah thats what i mean about the face shape and nose being wrong, no matter how I do my slider-fu on the sliders i cant seem to make the nose anymore narrow without making him look deformed, same with the face shape.
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>tfw npc has gesture you like but it's an npc only gesture
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>>167199494
fume knight
shitty overpowered "KNIGHT WITH SWORD LMAO"
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>>167198840
who dat qt
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>>167198013
i forgot to ask, what is smup's
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>>167199567
Sounds like you're a member of the 93% club.
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>>167198940
HE DOES IT FOR FREE
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>>167199557
>tfw Navlaan has custom spell animations
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>>167192876
>>167194018
>surge hate

You make it seem like there are people who Surge from start to finish. No one does that.
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>>167199553
Ah... That really sucks. I'd still try to make him a bit tanner and maybe change the hairstyle. I don't remember each one, though.
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>>167169641
In scholar, what is the best staff for a sorcerer? Is witchtree branch the best?
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>>167199236
Ceaseless Discharge. Worst actual boss in the franchise for me.
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>>167199849

Staff of Wisdom.
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>>167199567
never played DS2 but at least he sounds like an actual fight instead of a check to see if you have a high stability shield and can run quickly
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>>167199567
>overpowered
>KNIGHT WITH SWORD
>four medieval games in
Don't act like this complaint is anything new.
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>>167199849
witchtree for pvp because castspeed
wisdom for pve, assuming you have the 50int requirement
it's available much earlier on in sotfs than it was in vanilla, too
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>>167199765
>No one does that.
Oh, my sweet summer child.
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>>167200029
Awesome thanks. I have witchtree right now it has a C scaling, but ive been using the starting staff until now. I just hit sl100
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Awhile ago, I bought DaS1 and tried to play it. Kinda got bored/unmotivated and I ended up dropping the game after I rang the first bell.

Fast-forward to Christmas, I bought Bloodborne, beating the game about a week ago (including the DLC) and my interest for the Dark Souls series sparked. I bought all 3 games when they were on sale and now working on getting through DaS1.

Am I in for a wild ride, /dsg/?
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>>167199918
His combos will tear through most greatshields
>>167200218
You beat BB so you can zip past through most shit
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>>167199767
Does this look tan to you? it looks like too much orange to me but i am abit tired, Tried to make his jaw abit sharper too, after looking through the nose again there really is no option for the nose bridge width.
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>>167199849
Blueflame.
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>>167199765
After you play the game for a while you run into them sometimes and it's awful when they do. Even if they don't 100%, a pyro has a free damage buttom they can use whenever you have a big weapon out and press R1. You can't do anything about it, at least quick weapons have to roll into you
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>>167200319
No it isnt.
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>>167198903
>The argument is that if something is cheesier than X and X deserves to be banned because it's cheesy, then Y deserves to be banned for being cheesier.

I'll go ahead and take this opportunity to point out that you're the one talking about banning shit and I'll also point out that I don't host FCs so you're talking to the wrong person.

>both work unreliably against large weapons outside certain situations

Unless someone's 2handing an ultra weapon their weapon can be parried and bigger weapons are easier to parry on reaction because they're slower. Running attacks from anything can also be parried, and I'm pretty sure the same applies to rolling attacks.

>You can also theorically win a fight only hitting an opponent during certain moments.

And? This does not refute the statement that to win without parrying you must attack. Also, notice that you had to put an s on the end of moments because the Leo ring doesn't end fights instantly. In trying to turn my words around on me you've just conceded a major point.

>Leo works like this too, since you NEED to attack, they can r1 when you do and beat it

Given the right weapon that's a maybe at best and I'll point out that such tactics won't work on weapons that rely on trades with HA. The Leo ring doesn't work against such weapons but the hornet ring does, so that's yet another point against your own argument that you introduced.

My point from the get-go was that the hornet ring is cheesy, you're the one who introduced all this other bullshit into the conversation. If you disagree then come up with a defense of the hornet ring that doesn't rely on your perception of other items or fuck off.
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DS1
>certain weapon CLASSES when equipped in left hand will attack with L1 and Parry with L2
DS3
>vast majority of Weapons in left hand block with L1 and attack with L2
>Some random weapons in each class attack with L1 and Parry with L2
WHY
AT LEAST MAKE IT CONSISTENT
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>>167200218
Some parts of the game will feel like Super Nintendo tier bullshit. Other than that, it takes some time to adjust since it's clunky.
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>>167200450
I miss greatsword/ultra greatsword parries.
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>>167200302
It looks quite good. I'd maybe just edge the skin tone sliders around a very small amount to see how everything is, but the only way to see if it's good is to finish the character and actually get into the game due to lighting.
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yfw titty dragon maid form confirmed for DLC2
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>>167199918
>using shield against Fume Knight
Unless it's an 80 stability greatshield combined with Strong Magic Shield and Baneful Bird Ring, it ain't gonna do shit against him, especially his second phase where the dark and fire damage will chip you down gradually.
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>>167199903
>>167200029
>Staff of Wisdom

Why do you fags act like you know what youre talking about? Wisdom is slow as shit. It isnt worth it.
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>>167200618
We already have a dragonloli, Tohru is not needed but I wouldn't mind.
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>>167200286
>You beat BB so you can zip past through most shit
I'm not sure about that honestly. Replaying DaS1 makes it feel like I'm going to have trouble in Blighttown (never got to it before but I heard it was hell).

>>167200525
So far I don't like how often the game hands out enemy ambushes with every room I walk into. I can't say too much about bosses since I felt they were kinda eh. Only fought the Asylum Demon, Taurus Demon, and the Capra Demon (those dogs can go fuck themselves)
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>>167200660
again, never played DS2. My comment about shields was in reference to blocking BoC's stunlock bs
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>>167200676
it's the highest damage sorc staff
if you're going ezmode pve "just spam soul arrows at shit from max range" then it's a good choice
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>>167199236
almost anything from DaS2
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>tfw no invalid data message

PCFC? I'll host at Cathedral of the Deep right before Deacons. Pass: dsg.
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>>167200618
Only if she is Gwynevere sized, or even bigger.
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>>167200596
I think hes passable, I am happy.
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>>167199146
>>167199296
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>>167199121
>It was pretty shit in 2

Like hell it was.

>>167199130
>I mean in terms of weapons to use.

Then I'm in agreement.
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>>167192410
i like keeping every npc alive in firelink
im just having a dilemma over getting horace's set for my current character
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>>167200962
sHIT I DIDNT MEAN TO COME INTO YOUR SHITTY LITTLE ROOM OH GOD DONT DO THAT GRAB ATTACK FUCK MY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASS
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dead gemu
dead general
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>>167198437
dual caestus
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>>167199236
>tfw I enjoyed struggling against him
In an alternative universe, people would praise it for making good use of the environment and being strategic. Especially when you can't do good damage and you're not at a level where you can take more than one hit, this guy is equivalent to a slasher from a horror movie. Plus the arena you fight him was inspired from a real place.
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>>167200908
Nice! It looks great! Remember you only need 14 STR and 10 DEX to two-hand the Greatsword.
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How does this build look people?

Mostly would be playing some PvE and going through the motions just to relax, but would also duel in Oolacile when revivals come round

http://mmdks.com/8ivo
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>>167200962
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~SL40 pyro.
Dark LS, raw ASS, or dark hand?
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As someone who only just got around to beating Dark Souls and has limited cash to spend, should I bother with DaS2 or just go straight to DaS3?
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>>167201754
SotFS is worth playing, especially now that it's cheap. That said, I don't go back to 2 or 1 now that I have 3. I tried to go back to DeS a while ago but it just feels so clunky now.
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>>167201754

3.
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>>167201754
『Only when it's $20 or less』
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>>167200962
VERY fast jailer solderign at incredible hihg speeds
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>>167201754
Wait for a sale before you decide on either of them.

Or if you really want to buy one now, go with DaS3 if you want more of the same with faster gameplay, or DaS2 if you want something that will probably feel quite different and still slow paced.
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>>167201754
Depends. If you want active PvP and co op, definitely go straight to 3.

If you want to have fuck tons of content, then buy Scholar of the First Sin and then once you've rinsed that thoroughly set your sights on 3 or bloodborne. All are good but quality wise most people will say 2 is the weaker game overall, so there's that to think about too.

2 is still good though, all souls games are good. And there's a lot of it which is a nice bonus.
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>>167201754
DaS2 is a mediocre game and a bad DS game.
It's skippable.
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When one guy kills an entire fight club attempt lmao
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How good are magic/miracles/pyro in DS3?
I went with quality with my first character because I always hated how good/fun spells are always locked behind mid/endgame bosses when there are plenty of good weapons that you can either start with or get in the first 10 minutes.
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>>167200432
The initial argument was all about why hornet, or anything else besides glitches and hacks, should not be banned from FCs, banning things was a part from the conversation from the start.

Bigger weapons meant ultras specifically, my bad, leo weapons don't trade with those often, they just outspeed them, outside pickaxe. You can hornet or leo ultras sometimes but it's not common.

Hornet only ends fights intantly at twink SLs or unembered HP. Meta SL embered builds take 2-3 hornet parries to die, depending on the weapon used, unless they're running a gimmick 31 vig build or similar.

Leo ring can work against most things hornet can. Parries are way more reliable against fast non HA weapons, as is Leo. Parries are somewhat reliable against average speed weapons, as you can see how uncommon halberd and GS normal R1 parries are. The easy moves to parry, running and roll ones, are also very easy to punish with leo. Parries are unreliable against ultras, as is leo, but both can work sometimes(your opponent does something very dumb)

I don't disagree hornet is cheesy, but the issue was always that someone would take offense only with it as a cheese and demand only it to be gone, ignoring any other common cheeses.
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>>167200863
Anyone there?
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>>167202171
he is protecting the true america. He is a hero
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>>167202171
He's still undefeated...
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>>167200863
>>167202350
I will be 5 mins
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>>167200863
Drake, just fucking kill yourself.
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>>167202171
>when no one shows up
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>>167202350
3 currently. This mage is running shop and made someone give up desu.
>>
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/141786

this is where im at right now.

i dont know if i should go 40 40 dex/str or 30 dex 50 str, or just where i should put the rest of my points
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>>167201754
>limited cash to spend
DaS2 SotFS. You can snag it for perhaps $10 USD or so during the upcoming Steam sale. It's well worth the price despite its flaws.

DaS3 will cost you in the neighborhood of $60 USD right now, including the two DLCs, even on sale. And it's still to be determined whether or not the final DLC will salvage the hot garbage that the first DLC was (easily the weakest out of all the games). To top, it also probably will not fall to below $30 USD except during a Steam sale later in the year.
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>>167202171
>a whole PCuck FC lost to a single broken sword user who didnt use CE
PCuck weaknesses:
>pontif doggos
>broken swords
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Anyone ever played a Villhelm cosplay? Whats a good build look like?
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>>167202919
Well...
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>>167200863
I'm on my way
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>>167202391
ok make that another 5 mins
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>>167202512
Put a point into intelligence and faith for carthus flame arc. Then pump dex to 40.
>>
What did /our/ guy mean by this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFXDGZKO0Ws
>>
Is BKGA any good? I never see it used. It has a unique moveset, right?
>>
>>167203090
>scott's first big sponsor
We all know Ubisoft was handing out sponsors like hotcakes for this game
>>
>>167203070
1. any reason to have 40/40 dex over 30dex/50str?
2. What should i take those 2 points out of for the fth/int?
>>
>>167203128

It's alright for an ultra weapon. 1HR1s can be comboed into a War Cry R2.
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>>167202323
>banning things was a part from the conversation from the start.

The word "ban" does not appear in the first post in this string. The word "ban" does not appear in my first post in this string. The word "ban" didn't come up until your response to my first post in this string.

I'll reiterate, my point from the get-go was that the hornet ring is cheesy, you're the one who introduced all this other bullshit into the conversation. If you disagree then come up with a defense of the hornet ring that doesn't rely on your perception of other items or fuck off.

>Hornet only ends fights intantly at twink SLs or unembered HP.

I've been OSOK'd on hybrid builds with 27 VIG so you're either wrong or lying.

>I don't disagree hornet is cheesy

OK then, fuck off.

This is the last (you) that your dumb ass is getting from me, enjoy it.
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>>167203209
If the 1HR1s are good, can it be used with a greatshield
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>>167203090
Who? Pic related is our only guy
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>>167203362

If you have low weight armor or some VIT sure.
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Claymore, Bastard Sword, Longsword or Reinforced Club in Dark Souls 1?
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>>167203165
since your weaponed is refined, you get more damage out of the 40/40. Take it out of vitality. I have no idea why you have so much.
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>>167203513
for havels full set of armor.
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>>167203510
club
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>>167203558
TY. Will be going elemental, so I can have retarded low stats with that club
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>>167203550
regardless, take it out of vitality because you'll still be under 70% weight limit.
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>>167203223
>unironically falling for 27 vig memes then bitching about hornet

/dsg/ PCucks everyone
>>
What are the current best weapons/meta weapons after all the patches? Just started a new game and want to go Dex but idk if rapiers and katanas are viable
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>>167202507
Would using a zwie+GCS label me as a shitter if i join in?
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>>167202896
>AoA is the weakest
>when Sunken Crown exists
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>>167203223
people actually do the 27 VIG at SL120? what. I aim for at least 35 on all builds that high and almost always at least 39.
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>>167203513
true.
Is this the most optimal then?
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>>167203717
Anything is viable in PvE. In PvP, thrusting swords are not as good but still pretty decent. Katanas are pretty bad except for the incredibly annoying running attack that is very good
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>>167201905
>>167201906
>>167201927
>>167201996
>>167202001
>>167202045
>>167202896
Aight, thanks for the replies. Guess I'll wait to see if DaS3 price goes down and buy DaS2 if I need something to tide me over.
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>>167203223
The conversation about the same topic that was happening mentioned bans, I assumed the first post, even not quoting them directly, was part of the same topic because it was talking about the same issues.

27 VIG is pretty low for meta level builds, which is where most FCs are hosted, you probably are overleveling a few stats
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Any ETA on Vaati's new lore video?
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>>167203631
chaos reinforced club is actually the best weapon for lv.1 runs
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>/dsg/ mocks 27 vig
>99% of people used it as it was the meta for a few months
The mind wonders...
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>>167203868

So if i want to pvp its better to just go quality?
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im not starting to lag again, am i?
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>>167203813
Not him but I liked Sunken Crown.
But post more Painter Girl and source on these comics
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>>167203468
Then which greatshield is the most fashionable with it? Wolf Knight?
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>>167203797

no
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>>167203923
If you get DaS2, get Scholar of the First Sin. It's a bundle that includes all the DLC, plus upgrades and improvements

much more value for money than just the base game
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>>167203813
I don't know about that, I thought Sunken was pretty good. It's probably better than Ariandel.
On the other hand, it's Ivory that I think is super overrated.
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>>167203979
>idiots used it for the first months
>first months
>months

Yo faggot, the game is a lot older than that. 27 vig is retarded and gets you killed fast as fuck.

Did you know people used to advocate for asbestos as a good insulator?
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>>167203829
if you want that much VIT than yeah. I do similar build at 120 with lothric knight sword and avelyn. But I have much less VIT and less vigor and endurance. If you are looking to pvp , consider switching ring of steel protection with something else because it is worse in pvp than pve.
>>
new bread when?
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>>167203982
Well, quality is the best option for most of the game's weapons. If you want to be a pure Dex build, there are still plenty of options.
>>
New
>>167204302
>>167204302
>>167204302
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>>167204249
Is the Estoc still good?
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>>167203987
no

>>167204093
There are some neat areas here or there but the bosses are hot garbage, one of them is barely anymore of a boss than the Gravetender
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>>167204334
yes, but boring.
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>>167202512
>avec
speak American

also why are you even asking for build advice
you're 168 so you're clearly not doing minmaxy pvp shit
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>10 depth rats runs without a single humanity
>suddenly get 5 in one run
shit's crazy
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>>167203952
2 days
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>>167199663

Wait, have 93% of people still not beaten it?
>>
>>167205521
93% of attempts result in death

meaning the average person took more than 14 attempts to beat Fumey
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>>167191989
Its has been removed m9
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Tips for Artorias? Guy's an unpredictable motherfucker
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