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Previous Thread: >>166829608
>Main Page:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page
>Stuff you need to read:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ
http://pastebin.com/D24CZBxp
>Where can I watch the cup
Literally Shitbox front page, or the wiki front page
>Videos:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos
>Archived games:
http://archive.klaxa.eu/
>Previous Cup:
https://www.implyingrigged.info/wiki/2016_4chan_Autumn_Babby_Cup
>Next Cup:
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2017_4chan_Winter_Cup
>Winter Cup Dates:
>February 3rd 23:59:59 - Export deadline
>February 4th: Draw
>February 10-12: Opening weekend.
>February 17-19: Second group stage weekend.
>February 25 and 26: Knockouts.
>Upcoming Invitationals:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Tag_Team_Cup_3
>PES 17 Info:
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2017
>Previously:
>Billboard submissions >>166888815
>Updated rules page >>167044541
>Shitposting & Test Draws
>page 9
>>166911401
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benis
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>>167116375
That's nice and all, but Remove /t/.
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>>167116375
whoa didnt expect for that thread to hit the limit but oh well like i said before so yeah have a good one
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five posts in and already it's shit
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>>167118115
Thanks for making it even worse senpai
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Is it /vp/'s year?
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keksandra
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>>167117875
Isn't that a 10 year old girl?
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>>167118229'no'
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>>167118363
weebs are pedophiles: more news at 11
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>>167116501
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYzdMOa9hEc
Have memes gone too far?
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>>167118363
Yeah, and?
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>>167116904
Holy shit, this is the first time I see this pic uncropped
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>>167117875
Why the fuck does Fireden wipe all images
Could you post that image in an external link please
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>>167119686
it didnt have a tit either janitors are a bunch of virgins or they saw the the tiniest, tiniest pixle of pink areolas on that pic
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>>167119956
Maybe it just didn't have anything to do with the cup :^)
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>page 9
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Friendly reminder that you cannot spell "Spaghetti" without /sp/and without /a/ too
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A team with light colored home kits will win the cup.
A team with dark colored home kits will get the wooden spoon.
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>Open Wiki
>Click Random Page until you land on a team page
>Open MS Paint and draw your favorite player from that team
>Post results
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>>167121927
we have light colored home kits
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>>167122153it was /finland/
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>>167122153
A nice big 'Go 'Za
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>mfw /asp/ wins da winterc up
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Who'd they call in the Winter Cup win for lads?
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>>167123763
Damn, Jagger and Bowie really let themselves go, huh
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>>167122153
Do VGL teams count?
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hi guys I'm back what did I miss this off season
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>>167122153
I lost my mouse so I did this with my laptop's trackpad
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>>167124226
some new managers
/soc/ up and has a council now, /mlp/ keeps getting new guys so that they have 3, /sp/ got a new guy (who isn't very confident in his role apparently), /int/ got a new guy (I hope that means that they won't die off), and /pol/undeservedlygot a new manager.
I think that makes 5
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>>167125108
>/soc/ has a council
when did that happen, what
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>>167125470
socialspartan and TOTALLY NOT ALSO socialspartan and TRUST ME HES REAL GUYS AND NOT A THIRD socialspartan are all jerking each other off now.
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>>167125108
how many of them are girls?
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>>167123763
Seriously whats the origin of this? Why are they memes now? 4chan just found out they were ugly?
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>>167125108
>who isn't very confident
You're god damn right.
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>page 9
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>>167125015
NICE WRITER MAN
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>>167128182
>Very Large Cone
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>>167127040
pls turn ur trip off
don't make the same mistake I did
now I'm sure all of 4ccg hates me
so don't
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>>167129285
You're right, I do hate you.
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Mauled and socialspartan bans when?
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>>167129285
>trip
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>>167129663
you don't even know who I am
I could be Smuglel, for all you know
>>167129752
same difference, autist. Fuck off.
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>>167129285
I like you
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>>167129809
>implying I don't hate smegmaleaf too
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>>167129809
>this autistic rage
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I wish girls still came here. I like girls, I'm straight.
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>>167130121
*discount double checks*
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>>167129954
oh wait, I forgot, this is /4ccg/
everybody hates everybody
>>167129935
except for this anon. Thank you.
>>167130071
What? This isn't autistic rage. Do you want to see autistic rage?
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>>167130335
>do you want to see autistic rage
Do you need to ask?
>filename
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>>167130335
nah, just furries and ERP faggots
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>>167130403
okay, you asked for it. (this probably took 20 minutes to write)
FUCKING ALBANIAN SUBHUMANS, I WISH HITLER WAS STILL ALIVE SO THAT SOMEONE COULD GENOCIDE THOSE SHITSTAINS. ALBANIA IS SUCH A SHIT PLACE WITH SHIT LAND AND A SHIT LANGUAGE AND SHIT INFRASTRUCTURE AND SHIT CULTURE, NOT TO MENTION A SHIT LANGUAGE AND A SHIT FLAG. HOLY FUCK, RUSSIA NEEDS TO BUILD ABOUT 50 MORE EMPEROR BOMBS AND DROP EVERY SINGLE ONE ON ALBANIA. I BET THAT EVERY SINGLE ALBANIAN WAKES UP IN THE MORNING DESPERATELY WANTING TO KILL THEMSELVES. WELL GUESS WHAT ALL YOU SUBHUMANS, YOU WOULD DO EVERYONE A FAVOR IN DOING SO, SO GO RIGHT ON AHEAD. YOU'RE LITERALLY WORSE THAN ZIMBABWE, SYRIA, LYBIA, DEM CONGO, PORTUGAL, BOLIVIA, AND VENEZUELA COMBINED. ALBANIA IS ABSOLUTELY WORST BALKAN.
ALSO SHADOWBORG, YOU CAN GO FUCK YOURSELF
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>>167131091
/int/ sucks lmaooooooooooooooo
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>>167131214
FUG OFF
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Believe in /f/
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>page 9
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>page 9
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>>167127040
>>167129285
Everyone makes that mistake when they first become a manager
Just don't let it get to you
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>>167135887
That's not true
t. still relatively new manager
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>>167136304
hello indistrikable
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uhhhh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtoblQHF5Vg
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>>167137876
>/mlp/ wins two stars
>the cup keeps getting peddled to outsiders
hmmmmmmm
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>>167136304
I'm trying to be reassuring
Stop mindgaming pls
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>>167137876
>tfw my name shows up in the chat in the video
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>>167137876
what a well researched, thought provoking, entertaining video!seriously, he just got some vods from summer 15 and read out from the wiki.
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>>167133665
we need to talk about your incestuous tendencies.
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>>167137876
was this guy actively striving to sound as annoying as humany possible? Because he puts nyanners to fucking shame.
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>>167141227
what a novel approach of making money. Just read out loud wiki pages, and upload it to youtube.
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>>167137876
Fuck this guy's voice.
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Why the fuck does one of the /mlp/ games on youtube have over 200,000 views?
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Have you found a 4CC valentine yet?
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>>167143940
Victory will be my valentine.
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>>167137876
That board-tan part was ripped off from the KnowYourMeme pagewhich actually exists
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>>167144238
writing scripts is hard
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>>167143725
Because the /mlp/ cup channel actually gets a lot of views?
>>167137876
Not only is this guy a fuckin' normie that has no clue what he's talkin' about, but his voice is literal ear rape.
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>>167144380
>normie
normalfag detected
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>>167144380
>the /mlp/ cup channel actually gets a lot of views
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>>167143725
It's /pol/ vs /mlp/ with /pol/ winning you should be happy.
As for the views, blame probably youtube's algorithm, who has probably suggested it to /pol/acks and trumpsters because of /pol/'s presence in the title.
Then again there are 2400 likes. While any other videos has 15K views and 40 likes top. So I have no fucking idea. Maybe chinese bots.
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>>167145013
>you should be happy
But these days /pol/ is worse because at least /mlp/ stays in their containment board.
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>>167137876
>/a/ tan started as a girl.
>Ended up as a trap.
Really makes you think.
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>>167143725
Because the 2000 pony fans watched it 100 times each
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>>167126820
its not that, its that theyve gained a similar amount of money to the rothschilds somehow and /po/ is memeing theyre the ones pushing globalism, or fighting globalism, were not sure
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>>167137876
[s4s] a cute
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>>167145309
Its weird for me, they're just two guys who were doing a few science on french tv a long time ago. Also the best example of how surgery can fucks up your face.
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>player has trickster card
>does no tricks
I thought the card was supposed to be shit because the player does attempt to perform the tricks, not because it doesn't do anything at all.
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I miss /k/
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I can't believe we drove away all the girls
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>>167149365
I can.
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>>167149365
>we
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>>167149793
it was all me desu
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>page 9
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>>167149365
Does it count as 'driving out' if there were none to begin with, then all the others just look at the thread and leave again
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>>167152310
What?
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>>167151997
flat is bad
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>>167152516
I have literally no answer because that single sentence is pretty clear in its implication
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Post a picture of your comanager
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>>167153063
is it koala-time already?
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>>167137876
God, this guy sounds like a huge dork. His voice is as bad as Lear's.
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>>167153287
not my post
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>>167153295
But I like Lear's voice
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>>167152747
I actually didn't understand that sentence
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>>167153396
He's got the voice of a fat nerd.
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>>167153063
>rabbi to twinky
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>>167136441
I actually did it too but it was always cup related when I did
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who has the best voice in the 4cc?
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>>167153994
Ken
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Hat Pick:/m/
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>>167137876
Good fucking god. Where the fuck did he even find that logo for spring 16?I've never wanted to DoS someone so bad
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>>167154672
ONE OF US
ONE OF USJK WE DON'T ACCEPT THIS FAGGOT
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>>167137876
>feefur
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>>167143725
it got linked on reddit or something, and got sort of WTF viral because normies were intrigued about hitler playing football versus ponies
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>>167154672
so Im not the only one caught off guard by that, good. That being said how DID he get his hands on that logo.
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>>167153653
can't be, they are both stupid babbies.
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>>167156053
Someone here made the video...
WHO IS IT
SPEAK UP FUCKER
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>>167156417
it was I, Anonymous
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>On Boxing Day in 2002, back for another stint in England, this time on loan in the Northern Premier League for Bradford Park Avenue against Harrogate Town, Pfannenstiel attempted to make a save at the feet of Clayton Donaldson. In a freak collision, the Harrogate striker’s knee smashed into Pfannenstiel’s chest, collapsing both of his lungs and preventing him from being able to breathe. Pfannenstiel was declared dead three times (yes, you read that correctly) only to be successfully resuscitated by the Bradford Park Avenue physio.
Moar murder
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>>167156053
>how DID he get his hands on that logo.Probably because he made it
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>>167153063
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>>167153063
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How's your blendering going?
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>>167159798
witnessed
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>>167159798
Looking like Jimmy Nutrin
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>page 9
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>>167159798
3/5 new head models done.
Wish I could get the other 2 MMD models to work, but one is so high poly it crashes my blender and the other model isn't released.I do hope people like the 3 new models
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>>167161553
You can try using different tool to reduce polygons, like Meshlab, it got a ton of options
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>>167161696
It will be more easy if i could do that after deleting parts i don't need like the whole body
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>>167162048
Hit up someone from /aesco/, surely someone there has a better PC
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if you are a boy and see a pretty girl, let it go ding ding!
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>page 9
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>>167164042
post more cute
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>>167164042
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>>167153063
I haven't seen him in years
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https://youtu.be/eIaY3ue02kU
The ancap toucan has arrived
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huh I should probably run AATF on my export sometime
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>>167167252
yes you should, MayDave.
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>>167167252
We have one of those?
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>>167167252
>>167167695
I heard it's broken
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>>167167769
No, you're the one who's broken
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>>167167769
It's broken for checking exports, but as long as you check the team from the savedata it should be fine.
The stuff about the remaining part of "placeholder" being displayed after the player names is just a glitch.
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>>167167769
Right now AATF works fine if you use it on cup teams. The problems that got brought up last thread should not break anything important.
The name problem looks like it's caused because the rigit-like editor doesn't fully pad the playernames when it saves data. It'll still work in PES, it just looks a bit funky when checking with tools that read the whole name.
The problem with invitational teams is caused by the team ID shuffle. There are now 72 invitational slots and 50 VGL slots, which means some IDs changed places compared to PES16, and I think word from this never got to NBD. This doesn't affect main cup teams or backup teams, so AATF for Winter should be fine.
Only minor setback is that right now it looks like EDIT mode is the only one that works. Checking for individual TEXPORT files doesn't seem to work yet.
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>>167165480
I too miss smear
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What is happening here?
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>>167169236
Isn't he back though? I thought he just showed up a few months ago
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2 days
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Dear dtroit,
Will you(and Demona) please be my valentines
pls respond
t. Your Secret Admirer
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>>167172508
Aw man, I'm really starting to feel it now.
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>>167172508
2 days, 4 hours and 34 minutes for managers (export deadline)
2 days, 19 hours and 34 minutes for fans (group stage draw)
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>>167173050
>2 days, 4 hours and 34 minutes for managers
Unless you're a #TopLad, then it's 3 days, 4 hours and 34 minutes.
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>>167171374
I have not seen him in god knows how long, but then again I haven't really been to the irc in a while.
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>>167173050
>2 days, 19 hours and 34 minutes for fans (group stage draw)
It's wrong.
Correct is: 2 days, 21 hours and 27 minutes.
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>page 9
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>>167174783
Reimu is the superior touhou
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>>167174960
wich2huwuldufuq?
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>>167175120
Reimu of course
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komala is a shitmon
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>>167153994
They all sound like massive nerds.
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>GET HYP
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/soccer?iso=20170204T12&p0=179&msg=2017+4chan+Winter+Cup+Group+Stage+Draw&font=cursive
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>testing
>opponent's Gold CF skills three of your defenders and scores a worldie
>wtf
>check his cards on the editor
>exact same as your Gold CF
>tab back into 17 just as your Gold CF walks straight into a defender and loses the ball
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>>167178552
>he thinks names of players and teams don't influence the RNGnon-letter symbols in player names and letter P in team name were the shit in PES16
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>>167178679
>other Gold CF's name consists of three letters
At least I know where to begin
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>>167172631
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>>167178552
Fame multipliers, cunt
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Are banner submission still open? I want to hand in my autistic artwork.
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>tfw a 77 CMF is one of your team's top scorers in testing
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>>167180271
stop using medal defenders
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>>167180437
I ain't no SDA
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>>167180271
>testing
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My legs hurt ;-;
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My testing is going pretty well actually.
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>>167180882
My arm too :(
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>>167179348
Roses are red
Frogposters are rude
/d/'s love is the purest
And that's no Walruse
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PES17 was a mistake
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>>167182470
I want to be drawn against /gd/!
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>>167182470
>he hasn't figured out the 17 meta yet
see you in Spring lmfao
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>>167181997
>Keksandra moving from Boris to Dtroit
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>>167182470
DF tactics not working?
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>>167137876
"cant say im surprised by any of those"
when /o/ and /v/ have been babby trash for forever
clearly just looked up the wiki and watched one match
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Here's a dank prediction for the winter KOs.
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>>167183159
/mlp/ and /d/ getting exposed is gonna be the greatest feeling in the world
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>>167175120
rumia and yuyuko, they are the belliest
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>>167183239
/mlp/ is going to be shit in Winter once again, but be very afraid of Summer.
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>>167184076
Such is the fate of mass testers
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>>167184076
>implying PES17 doesn't mark the end of the pony dynasty
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>>167182612
>being surprised that the cup cumdumpster is looking for new blood
I wouldn't be shocked if she hadn't been bukkake'd by half the teams by now.
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Has anyone uploaded any exports yet?
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>>167186023
/sp/ in a sense.
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>>167186023
/sp/ and /soc/ but I expect at least /sp/ to change on Friday
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2 DAYS, 1 HOUR AND 24 MINUTES UNTIL /yourteam/ MISSES THE DEADLINE!!!
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>>167184076
Well they need the data from Winter and Spring
>>167183239
/d/ have NFR though
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>>167188156
So did /tg/ in Autumn.
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>>167188312
/tg/ has a legitimate incompetent for head manager though
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>2-1-11 in testing right now
I don't know how it's possibly gone so bad
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>>167187039
>implying /myteam/ is in winter
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>>167188364
I've done some investigative journalism. The results may surprise you.
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>>167185154
She is a pure maiden
That's why she wants the /d/
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Who s ready for THREE (3) STARS and an asterisk?
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>>167188567
Why would their third star get an asterisk, though?
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>>167188602
Wrong team fäm
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>>167188783
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>>167188523
>She is a pure maiden
Even the [s4s] roster page admits she is for lewd :^)
more slutsandra 4cc pics when
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>the last 3 Winter cups have had anime teams get 2nd
Who's going to do it this year lads
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>>167189365
/d/
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>>167189365
/w/
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>>167189365
/h/ or /e/
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>look back at previous PES's and load old exports for inspiration
>mfw looking at all the cards I decided to use
I would have laughed if someone submitted that nowadays
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>>167189728
>watch old matches from /my/team/
>see the absolutely stupid tactical changes I made
If only I knew what I was doing.
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>>167189358
>mfw someone actually noticed that
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>>167176646
but it's cute fuck you
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>page 9
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>test out some longball
>win 3-0
haha time for cancer
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>>167193240
nuh uh, I ain't falling for your memes
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>>167193240
>finding out that longball is the best strategy in 17 only two days before the export deadline
Good luck in Spring my dude
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>>167193240
>>167193567
longball is the only thing uk strikers are good at recieving which is why the england team is shit cause meme managers make them do italian formations when all their success iin their 5 divisions of promotion and training is long cross into headed ball
Andy Carrol was on form to be a fucking legend as a heading god but he never got the chance to play headyball instead of messiball internationally before his injury
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>use 2nd kit
>lose 8 games in a row
>switch to 3rd kit
>win 3 games in a row and counting
What did they mean by this
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>>167194187
Color abuse is nothing new. I think it was red in 16?
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>>167194267
My red kits keep losing
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>>167194052
do I honestly have to take into consideration which team /myteam/ is overlaying if I want to have working strategies?
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>>167194267
>>167194346
I assume if I wear every color I'll win that much more often!
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>>167194346
Oh, that sucks. I'm not sharing the winning color with you.
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>been testing past few days
>only tactics that win have been meme formations
Get ready to rumble
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>>167194267
Red was 15 I think
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>>167194590
meme formations are the best senpai? I bet there are faggots who are testing real tactics and treating this like an esport.
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>>167194187
Hah that's nothing.
>go on a 17 game undefeated streak
>give export to head manager
>first 5 matches are losses
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>>167194379
no but height abuse and aggresiveness helps long ball/heading alot more than other strategies
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>>167194797
Next time try plugging in a second controller
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>>167194797
>testing new tactic
>doing okay
>realize I accidentally hit Silver instead of Gold on the editor and was playing with SSSG
>fix it
>"haha this is great, we were playing well even when nerfed :)"
>lose next 5 games
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>>167195104
Good ol' /u/jle
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>>167194379
The custom team ids (701-902) don't overlay any of the original teams, anyway.
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>there exist people who will fall for the longball meme
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Would it be hard to set up a franchise mode thing so that someone could go through a season of that during cup downtime comfy?
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>>167195194
if the players are built for it its fine, trying to move a messiball team over to longball though is suicide
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Has there ever been a 4cc Football Manager database? I feel like every year I see someone working on one, but it's never finished.
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>>167196503
There are so many questions about how to do that though that it isn't funny. Do you just set flat stats for everyone? Do you just set it by potential and give the golds/silvers higher?
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>>167196503
Never finished. You need somebody with the autism do finish a project that big.
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lmao this game is trash
>away team clearly outplay home team
>lose anyway because mentally deficient striker AI
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Does anyone know why changing the names of players stops their blenders from working?
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>>167197964
you need more crosses bro
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>>167198036
if I were to change your name you'd stop working too
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>>167198036
Did you turn on +7 abuse in the editor
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>>167198036
You have to wait for their new Social Security number to come in. Please give 3-4 months for the bureaucrats to process the name change.
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>>167198036
I think this is some good commentary on humanity by Konami. For we are all the same without our names and reputations. The same grey faceless mass, ready to be molded.
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>>167199519
>>167198579
>>167198203
>>167198168
fixed, thanks guys great help ;)
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>>167198036
If you used the rigit like 4ccEditor and changed their name in game that's way, it has that effect for some reason
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>>167199638
I was actually being serious
I turned on +7 and all my models broke
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>>167190465
>Changing the wiki
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>GK saves a shot and falls to opponent's other striker
>they miss from all of 5 yards
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>>167199724
Because it sets a flag on the player that it's edited, and any of those flags being on kills models.
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Hat pick:/e/
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>>167198036
That's possibly due to their "edited" flags being checked when you make changes. There's an option to remove them in the Rigit-style editor (and maybe the other one).
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>>167201186
>that group A
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>>167201186
>Group A
I'd prefer /myteam/ not get drawn with anyone good so could you please redo this
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>>167201186
>Group F
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>>167189365/vp/
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>>167189365
/mlp/
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>>167201186
>/v/an/ /jp/FUCK YOU
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>>167201969
/n/ would be happy to have a van in their group, the closest a 4 wheel vehicle gets to being public transportation
also pic
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>tfw no more motivations to be a manager anymore but stay on out of a sense of responsibility
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/vg/ermany 7-1 braz/y/l
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>>167202867
tfw
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>>167202867
dont fight it, give in and feed the machine what it wants anon
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>>167203749
who's trip even is this
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>>167204152
no one's, I was just testing out stuff
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>>167202867
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>>167201186
A: /fit/ /out/ (please)
B: /d/ /u/
C: /m/ c/
D: /e/ /vp/
E: /v/ /an/ (V&)
F: [s4s] /vr/
G: /adv/ /h/
H: /o/ /tv/
These aren't real predictions, just what I'd like to happen
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>>167201186
real meme shit
/fit/ /int/
/u/ /gd/
/m/ /c/
/vp/ /vg/
/an/ /jp/
/vr/ /toy/
/adv/ /h/
/o/ /f/
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>>167204208
That's not how you test stuff, brother.
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>>167204621
BROTHERS
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reminder that the last elite cup winner advanced from groupstage with only 4 points and negative GD
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>>167205086
Is there even a point to try to get (You)'s from horsefuckers anymore? The only retort their small pool of brain cells can ever come up with is "omg so salty /)"
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>>167205086
inb4 the next cup winner advances on 2 points
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>>167205086
>if /vr/ scored literally one more point against /o/ or /u/ this entire timeline would be different
Really gives me cause for consideration
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>>167205256
>2 points
>mfw /c/ does it
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>>167205243
this, its makes their attempt at banter at cup time just embarrasing for everyone
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>>167205347
>not /f/
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>>167205338
If /wg/ had played in Summer, the timeline would have been different.
But we couldn't have that now, could we /4ccg/? You had to kick up a fuss that Lear was gonna let them in. You did this.
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>>167207373
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>>167207652rude
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>>167207740but true
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Believe in /f/
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>>167205338
>if /vr/ scored literally one more point against /o/ or /u/ this entire timeline would be different
/mlp/ got through in the most 90+ way possible, we should have seen it coming.
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>/myteam/'s manager hasn't made an appearance yet
>/myboard/ is getting worried
Throw us a bone here you pokefag.
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>>167211765
He was in IRC earlier talking to me about getting ready
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>>167212067
Oh thank god, the whole board was worried. We hate absolutely everything and everyone, but there is one thing we all can agree is that we love our manager. Keep up the good work you based bastard.
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is it too late to add SKEEUP into the /sp/ roster?
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>>167212858
yes
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>>167211495
https://twitter.com/Headpats
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>>167212858
[s4s] is going to steal him and hold him hostage until you give us your asterisk
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Old Man Sou (ID: !!c6N8js+QjEQ)
2017-02-02 05:07:59
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>>167208985I hope you've been a good boy for RNGesus since last time I have a feeling we're going for another ride.
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>>167214670
I'm used to it at this point.
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>>167214670
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>>167214780
I dunno man in all these years I've learned that PES never runs out of tricks
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>>167214927
Which why just B E L I E V E
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>page 10
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Important query here. Who will be commentating Winter?
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>>167216854
Whoever Boris wants, I doubt it will be anything that crazy or different.
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>>167216854
Here's a better question. When will Lear show his face?
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Hey. I haven't been here for a while. Could someone explain the difference between messiball and longball and what those terns mean?
Thank you very much.
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>>167216854
We've banned the one good commentator so now it'll be endless NFR.
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>>167213091
https://twitter.com/bot_erection
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>>167217632
PMB got banned?
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>>167216854
Me?
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>fart under the shower
>a little poop comes out
I think this is my best "Lear posts a rule change in /4ccg/" impression to date.
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>>167217589
Only one of those will reign superior in pes17 and it sure ain't messiball.
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>>167217589
Messiball doesn't work because Manlets are worthless in PES
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>>167218981
>falling for the longball meme
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>>167221141
Where is her torso
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ded
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>PAGE DED
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>>167225285
shes sticking out her ass in this pose, shes bent over
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tfw you come up with some spicy changes to your export at the last minute
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>>167216854
Dragonfag
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>>167230124
I know this feel
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>>167216942
He won't. He's fat.
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>>167210030
But /mlp/ also tied with /u/ because /u/ scored a 90+on their own, why does people forget this?
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>>167230859
>Fat
>Shitposter who enjoy shitposting and watching people rage.
I guess he's cartman.
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>>167231179
/u/ scored 90+ because of tacticool changes and /mlp/ failed to adapt
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>>167231330
The same can be said for many of their matches then though.
/m/ especially was under pressure the whole game and /mlp/ had crazy stats against them, and 3 barely offsides that would've been certain goals, it seems /m/ didn't prep anything against that and just prayed.
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>>167231456
That pissed me off to no end. You see PES continually giving you the fucking grace of god by making every >rape attempt offsides, and you DON'T DO A FUCKING THING TO COUNTER IT? You're not going to get that lucky for a full fucking 90. I'm not a particularly great manager but for fucks sake, even I would know to fucking try something to counter-act the obvious outcume.
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>>167231456
>>167231552
Probably their most deserved win in the cup, /m/ managers could've almost be a pastebin.
Which is hilarious considering the "bet" they tried to pull.
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Which team will kill /mlp/?
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>>167233120
Your dads. All of them.
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>>167233997
>GROUP A
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We should have a 4CC poetry slam thing.
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>>167234106
Mountains of Feces,
Rivers of Piss,
/mlp/ kills,
The very idea of happiness
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>>167234106
You horses can have
All the stars in the sky
When you realize all you have in your life is ruining a meaningless divegrass tournament and once you finally succeed in shutting it down you'll have no option but to kill yourself since your only "friends" will be gone
You'll still sit and cry
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>>167234530
Embroidery Anon please, this is not the place for goth poetry.
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>>167234656
Let me try again then. I call this, Testing in PES.
[3 hours of anguished screaming, including noises that aren't humanly possible]
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>>167234701
record it and put it on bandcamp, /mu/ will eat that shit right up
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>>167234106
YOU DESERVE IT
YOU DESERVE IT
YOU DESERVE IT
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fuk /mlp/Can I be a #toplad now?
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>>167234530
>Meanwhile half the /mlp/ managers have gf when boris and co are actual wizards.
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>>167234530
You say that but in a lot of ways, /mlp/ are more like the popular frat bro dudes and the rest of /4ccg/ act like the bitter angry virgins.
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>>167235918
This, its hilarious.
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>>167235918
Indeed, at least one of them is raising his wife's daughter too.
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>>167235635
>falling for the vagina meme
lmao
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>>167235635
>having gfs
>having kids
>implying that's a good thing
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>>167231754
it was /mlp/ making that bet and /m/ management nor fans didnt even accept it
but of course /mlp/ spam the fucking song as if they won it, but dont pretend /m/ created the bet
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>>167235918
>/mlp/ are more like the popular frat bro dudes
>/mlp/ are popular
They may be popular inside their safe space, yeah. Doesn't mean they have any popularity that can transfer to a real-world situation, though.That was over the line, I apologize.
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>>167236217
Are you high?
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>>167235635
I wonder what cartoons they're gonna raise their kids with
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Reminder that even Christian Weston Chandler got himself some pussy, even if he had to pay for it.
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>>167235635
trap ass is better than some loose cunt thats fucked every man in a 100 mile radius
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>>167236315
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>4ccg is resorting to saying that having a girlfriend and regular pussy is a bad thing just because they don't want to admit to any /mlp/ success.
I guess >>167235635 really IS right.
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>>167236350
most traps are bigger sluts then women tho
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>>167236304
were you even watching at the time, or the thread .
>>167236318
he is the pussy now and he cant even pay people to fuck it
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>>167236406
>3D
>good
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>>167236350
When, oh when in 4chan history , has traps finally become a better alternative to pussy?
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>>167236439
It was /m/ the one who made the bet.
It was /mlp/ the one who rejected it and then acted like they have won after the match.
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>>167236428
if it turns out they did sleep around at least you havent wasted 10 years on a son that isnt yours
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This is why I just stick with 2D lolis
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>>167236439
>were you even watching at the time, or the thread .
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/152113092/#152213370
Yes? Its /mlp/ who said no, moron. And the bet itself was at /mlp/'s disadvantage.
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>>167236556
>fucking the vagina
that's not how women work
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>>167236563
>being apaedophile
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>>167236494
when feminism made cheating on your husband still worth 60% of his money and both kids
>>167236543
but it was /m/s theme, why would they challenge mlp to steal it from them?
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>>167236406
it's just some of the managers and former managers.
the other 99% of /mlp/ want to fuck horses
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>>167236543
Tbh they didn't try to claim any "prize" because /m/ barely had anything to propose anyway.
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>>167236579
>make the bet
>act all pushy and mighty up until the match
>lose like a bitch
Glad to see /m/ management is still a joke.
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>>167236579
i stand corrected
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>>167236631
Why do you act like you were there when you're completely wrong?
And /mlp/ use the song for 2 years already, also Daicon wasn't JUST about /m/ it's anime in general, even if they later made Gainax.
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>>167216854
Roll Fizzlebeef
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>>167236761
i know about daicon, if anyone has rights to it should be /jp/ or /a/, i already relented btw >>167236746
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>>167236579
>losing the right to play an althorn of /mlp/'s choice
WHat the fuck is that proposal.
Why would /mlp/ cares about their althorn?
They should've proposed to put an actual pony blender or something, but that would've involved putting actual stakes for /m/ that would've angered the board, and obviously the council didn't want that. They should be glad they didn't try to wager this bet.
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>>167236761
>Daicon wasn't JUST about /m/ it's anime in general
Daicon wasn't about anime, is about sci-fi.
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>>167237253
There's star wars in it.
/tv/ should have ownership.
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>>167236543
>acted like they have won after the match
But /mlp/ did win ^:)
>>167236217
>being this wrong
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>>167236217
It was literally /m/ that challenged /mlp/ to that bet. Shadowborg put his trip on to post about it. We have the screen shot.
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>>167237391
you can't win a bet you rejected
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>>167237391
Can't they just use it as a victory anthem anyway if they really wanted to? Is there "anthem slots?" I mean /m/ has much more chances of playing it considering the main scorers of /mlp/ are >rape and BP.
Did they even poll the board about it or did just not propose Twilight because "muh alt horn"?
that is, if they score again :^).
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This is one of the dumber things we've talked about here. Stop.
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>>167237594
Who cares about some sucker's bet with no stakes for the other side? /mlp/ won the GAME.
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>>167237594
I'm sure they're weeping into their second star over it, their one great regret.
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>>167237556
/mlp/ didn't even get to "spam" the song because she scored only once since their match.
There's one banter pic that was made, but its almost deserved considering shadowborg's own attitude.
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>>167237601
>Did they even poll the board about it
Yes. The alt horn was approved by a solid 2/3 majority in a poll receiving almost two hundred replies.
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>>167237695
>>167237696
I was just talking about the bet. no need to get so salty /mlp/
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>>167237695
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UghuAPv-0Bs
Boris's reaction is still hilarious.
>>167237680
I just hope /m/ sees this and get a good reminder to stop being tards on discord and to shape the fuck up in winter so they don't do something like that again.
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I'm a manager, not from /mlp/, and I have a girlfriend. Git gud guys, if I made it anybody can desu
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>>167237757
So why don't they use it too? I don't think a commish cared about that.
I'm sure /mlp/ wouldn't mind the overlap to sing along, and if /m/ was truely good they'd show via the games who deserves the song more.
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>>167237680
are you sure though?
I mean, we talk about tons of dumb shit.
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>>167237825
I bet you're a girl.
Damn lesbians.
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>>167237680
>dumber than faggotposting and 'look at my random anime screenshot'
'no'
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>>167237865
KOMFY
A
B
A
L
For real at least this is legit team cup talk, >>167237680 is just new.
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>>167237825
>only a fool
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>>167237943
remember that one time we argued about cereal?
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>>167237979
>we
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This is one of the most intellectual topics we've discussed. Continue.
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>>167237979
>Putting milk on cereal.
>>167238073
I'm legit curious of if there are official rules on goalhorns or if /m/ was just autistic.
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>>167237779
>Answering a question = salt
K
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>they don't pour cereal and milk at the same time
fucking plebs
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who's next in line if any team fails to submit export?
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>>167238159
/ck/
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>>167237860
What? I thought you were asking whether /mlp/ ran a poll, but I guess I misunderstood your attempt at English.
/mlp/ ran that poll I referred to. I don't know whether /m/ ran one or not.
Either way, /mlp/ grabbed it first and you don't use a song another team uses. That's tradition.
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>>167238159
Not /a/
>>167238156
>Eating cereal
>In 2^11-31
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>>167238154
>answering a question
>you can't win a bet you rejected
>a question
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>>167237706
>but its almost deserved considering shadowborg's own attitude.
I would agree with you if /mlp/ accepted the bet.
Rejecting the bet and then acting like smug cunts about it just make them look like massive assholes.
Then again we are talking about the same group of people who tried to kill friendless over not being invited.
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>>167238285
I was referring to /m/ because it says "we've long wanted to use it as an althorn", I was wondering if /m/ had polled for it then or if they didn't want to poll because of it being already used.
I used "anthem" because shadowborg used that on his post at some point.
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>>167238351
>friendless
describes you autists pretty well lmao
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>>167238351
>2 people plus massive miscommunication and drama between managers is "a whole group of people".
No, it was deserved. The bet was retarded and shadowborg was like "YOU CHICKEN" etc. Just like /m/ would've taunted if they had won despite not using the song.
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>>167238351
The board didn't care about the friendlies thing and that was mostly between Ved, tenko and boris, don't be that guy.
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>>167238351
Please post proof of smugness.
>Good thing for you we didn't take that bet.
If that's the worst of it, then I think that's acceptable desu. /m/ were being twats about it that entire week and bantering /mlp/ for being too shit to risk the wager, only to get steamrolled in the match. I'd be a little smug in that situation, too. It's a natural response to exposing somebody's unwarranted arrogance.
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>>167237757
That's the other reason /mlp/ didn't take the bet (besides having literally nothing to gain if they won): the board had asked for that althorn, and the /mlp/ council doesn't treat the team as their personal plaything. They couldn't change the anthem without polling the board first.
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>>167238592
Exactly, I actually talked about that to lear and he said "BUT THEY SHOULD'VE UPPED THE ANTE" but this was pretty much just a bunch of managers doing their own thing and /mlp/'s mostly pass through their board. As said above that's the same thing for the friendlies: Bullshit between a handful of people that flies by without the board's input or care.
Lear is pretty shitposty btw;
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>>167238719
>Mostly pass decisions through* the board.
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>>167238719
>Lear is pretty shit
FTFY
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>>167238592
>the /mlp/ council doesn't treat the team as their personal plaything
must be nice desu
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>>167238849
It's really depressing how /mlp/'s is the only council that doesn't seem to do that.
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>>167238719
>>167238812
It's funny that Lear and /4ccg/ are at odds when they're both very alike: Pretty opinionated against certain boards, pretty incompetent, but both keeps coming and both wants to see the everyone burns in salt and rage.
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>>167238719
You are now aware that you have entered a time line where Tottori died in his crib and the post-Boris commissioner disapproves of managers prioritizing board interest over managerial circlejerking.
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Where are winter exports at?
Is everyone waiting until the last minute submission?
10 rigbux on /p/ being the first team with export submitted
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>>167239072
I don't understand what you're saying, but since we're in /4ccg/ I'm going to disregard your entire statement because your post image is a reference to a board I don't like.
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>>167239197
>Is everyone waiting until the last minute?
is this your first export deadline
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>>167238812
Lear can't be shitty because he cockblocked Pony refs and stadiums for Winter.
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>>167239197
Deadlines don't matter anymore since you can't get DQ.
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>>167239197
The managers' union has taken action across the board. Every manager will be treating the "24 hours later" deadline as the real deadline, in order to force Lear's hand into putting in non-shitty rules.
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>>167239326
>everyone submits their exports after the draw has happened
I would laugh.
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>>167239228
Not everyone cares about being secretive
>>167239269
But what about "severe penalties?"
>>167239326#notmycommisioner
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>>167239217
Basically Lear encurages toxic behavior and managers having whole power of a team over a board just for the sake of shitposting.
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>>167239413
He's the ex-manager of a nofans dump board. The idea of board involvement in running a team is foreign to him.
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>>167239461
>He's the ex-manager of a nofans dump board.
Literally every commish since GB.
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>>167239461
nomarket commissioners were a mistake
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>>167239529
>Tfw Boris still can't manage /co/ back to grace.
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>>167239529
Gerb for commish
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>>167239413
Yeah but cartoon image
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>>167239217
Tottori's big thing was managers measuring board interest in an objective way and letting the board decide about cup participation and what constituted their team. By contrast, Lear is in bed with the top lads and sneered at a manager council for putting their board's stated interest first when they could've circlejerked with other managers instead.
It's a night and day difference in commissioner philosophies.
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>>167239720
Can we bring back Tottori? Please?
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>>167239720
Isn't tottori still around? Maybe he just got a life now?
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>>167239840
he's a ghost now
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>>167239720
Every time I've tried to bring this attitude up in /4ccg/ I'm called a shitposter or a falseflagger, or 6 or 7 people suddenly show up in a dead thread to tell me that I'm wrong and people are "just having fuuuuun, anon!"
I know that it's just a circlejerk running to defend themselves, but it sucks when you feel like a complete minority for the crime of wanting this event to represent board culture instead of individual peoples' wishes.
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>>167239840
He joined the dead 4cc discord a few days ago.
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>>167235635
>/mlp/ management doesn't stay pure for their waifus
wtf I hate /mlp/ now
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>>167239972
Which teams do you think are the most guilty of being circlejerks?
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>>167239972
You may be a minority, but you're not alone, anon. I feel it too.
>6 or 7 people suddenly show up in a dead thread to tell me that I'm wrong and people are "just having fuuuuun, anon!"
Almost certainly /ag/ or Kekkel's Discord, depending on which namefag you're calling out.
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>>167241251/mlp/, they literally sound like a cult some times.
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>>167239972
I'm on the same page like you but since I don't participate in circlejerks I don't have any name to myself, so I'll always just be the /4ccg/ shitposter
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>>167241389
Half of /ag/ don't manage anymore and most of them don't care.
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>>167242043
The problem is the other half.
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Either the comfy channel should no longer be host-moded on the main channel, or comfy should be reserved only for people viewers know and care about such as GB, Boris and Sou.
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>>167242043
Like clockwork.
D A M A G E C O N T R O L
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>>167242501
Truth. But, that would upset the top lads. Who are you to tell the administration team who to host? The stream exists to funnel attention to attentionwhores by capitalizing on the popularity of the cup. Little peons like you and I don't matter and our opinions should be discarded.
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>>167237695
>>167237783
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page oneoneoneoneoneoneoneoneoneone
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>>167248735
Feels good when you are allowed to actually have a thread on your board so that everyone on it can participate.
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What if instead of uploading exports individually by a deadline, we sent them to Lear by that deadline, who would then upload them all at the same time to their own clearly marked page?
I mean, or we could stay with the #toplad ebin mind games
t. Managere
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>>167249271
hopefully now /jp/ are in the elites the meido will let her fumos play without instakilling the threads
we hide in secret stuck inside Touhou Soccer threads and football idol girls threads
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>>167249846
I actually enjoy the export mind games and it's always good fun shitposting in the thread with 10 minutes to go and 10 teams still haven't submitted anything.
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>>167250048
yeah you like having first read of them too each day before the matchmlp jews
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>>167249846
>trusting Lear with your export
are you fucking stupid
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>>167250370
This, Lear rigged my friendlies export just because he thought it'd be funny. God only knows what havoc he could cause if he had free reign to rig every export in the cup.
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>>167250370
>give Lear export
>A. He gets off his ass and does something, all is well
>B. He totally fucks it up and resigns in disgrace
Heads, I win. Tails, i kek
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>>167250638
And when I say "resigns," you know what i really mean
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>>167250753
Stays in because the people close to him are too apathetic or owe him too much to actually focus on keeping the cup running smoothly?
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>>167251715
Exactly
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>>167251968
Oh, I assumed that was just a "Neck Himself" thing and was trying to move the conversation away from the Day of the Rake.
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>>167250638
>resigns in disgrace
If he had the presence of mind and humility that would lead him to resign in disgrace, he wouldn't be pulling the shit that he does in the first place.
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Hello friends. Just over a day until exports, it would be a shame if teams missed.
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>>167253921
Why are you threatening severe punishments for late teams instead of punishing late managers instead?
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Also I've been personally given the /mlp/ export already so a wiki submission won't be necessary.
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>>167254371
>666ddd
I like that trip
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>>167254087
Well how would you punish the manager without hurting the team. I think removing timeouts and nightlies is about as close as you can get.
>>167254371
That was an OP to the IMT a while back, it's where I grabbed the picture for the team's roster page from.
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>>167254894
>>167254371
Wait fuck we're both using the same joke trip.
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>>167254894
>>167254371
>trips match
really gets my brain-a-bompin
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>>167255131
>>167254894
>Lear has been the fake Lear all along
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Boris had no reason to retire.
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What the fuck
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>>167253921
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>>167255190
I mean I found this trip after someone in /4ccg/ was using it. Also,
>not false flagging as yourself
Step up your game.
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>>167255382
>>167255131
>>167254894
WHICH ONE OF YOU IS REAL
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>>167255492
Oh no, I falseflag as myself all the time. I just don't retardedly let people know it's me that's doing so.
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>>167255616
IT IS I
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1 DAY, 4 HOURS AND 49 MINUTES UNTIL /yourteam/ MISSES THE DEADLINE!!!
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Reminder that waifus a shit except mine
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>>167255616
NO, IT IS I
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>>167255646
The trip is ##NotLear Someone in /4ccg/ used that as a fake Lear trip and I found it funny. Guess that person also found it funny if they're still using it.
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Lear
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>>167256038
You seem inept, this checks out
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>>167255492
Test
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>>167254894
>>167255131
Easy: ban the manager(s) from managing that team. Team competes with no nerfs on autopilot.
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I quit##AFUCKINGLEAF
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>>167256074
>tfw been testing out new trips for years but never found a better one than the one I currently have
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Test
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tfw I keep changing my mind about my export
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Please respond. >>167256093
There is no reason why a team should be punished with nerfs when you could ban the managers for 6 months instead.
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I just remembered that I was the one that first made this trip. So proud of myself.
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He's Lear. You're Lear. I'm Lear. Are there any other Lear's I should know about?
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>>167256919
no we're too busy shitposting now
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>>167257687
Spongebob memes are so last last year grandpa
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>>167257865
They were a thing last year?
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>tfw Im stuck at the clinic and can't test
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>autolineup by ability
>subs off a medal for a non-medal in the same position
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>>167255453
gracias medico
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>>167258346
Is it AIDS? I bet it's AIDS.
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>>167256919
Oh sorry I stepped out to make some food. Personally I don't like stat nerfs and prefer docking timeouts and nightlies from teams since if a manager is late they can get their mits off of the team. It means the team still could win just if they do it'll be no thanks to the manager.
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>>167259429
That didn't really address my suggestion. Why not ban the manager from managing that team for 6 months it longer?
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>>167238285
>Either way, /mlp/ grabbed it first and you don't use a song another team uses. That's tradition.
It's also /mlp/, tradition doesn't mean shit if it's to fuck over the bad guys.
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>>167259429
>prefer docking timeouts and nightlies
You realize that just means asking teams to run /o/ and /out/ style, right? There are teams for whom this would be no punishment at all.
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>>167259739
>tradition doesn't mean shit
No, anon. You are the bad guy.
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Hey guys, some of you (let's be real, all of you, every single last one of you) know me. I'm Lear. Ii'm the commissioner. I love you. I hate you. You love to hate me. On occasion, I run tournaments.
And now I'm quitting the 4CCC? What's up with that. 4CC is a great tournament. GREAT tournament. And I'm great at running it. Everyone says so. Everyone knows it. But it's just... it's hard. It's real hard, being the only real commissioner. It seems like it would be easy, being this much of a #toplad. But it's real fucking hard, guys.
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I want to have a beer
With Lear
Then cum in his ear
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>>167256995
>>167256741
>>167256107
>>167255957
>>167255920
>>167255382
Begone, imposters!
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>>167260325
You don't even run tournaments!
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>>167259665
If the fuckup that caused the manager to be late was severe they could get suspended but I don't think it'd be correct to make that happen every time no matter what.
>>167259801
Yes there are teams that wouldn't really punish but with those teams there really aren't that many avenues to go through for that tournament that are fair to the team itself unless we lean on suspensions which in those cases might be more appropriate. But so much of this depends on the specific situation this would happen.
>>167260579
All me.
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>>167258346
Did Antifa fuck your redneck ass up?
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I'm quitting the cup.
I just don't have the talent or skill to run it. At first I enjoyed getting useless, because I had hope that I could learn from my mistakes. But I can't. That became extremely apparent to me when I completely fucked the rules and the way the cup was run. I think DF did nothing wrong. What the fuck is wrong with me?
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Brothers?
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>>167260325
>>167260787
never funny to begin with
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>>167260979
Trip on, Lear.
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Anyone notice how the thread was on topic until Lear showed up?
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>>167261397
goes to show how fucking unstable you guys are
if one leaf can topple you by simply just being here
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>>167261023
No I think those are funny.
>>167261397
Oops.
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>>167260758
But you said punishments would be "severe." What is severe about no time outs or no nightlies when multiple teams voluntarily operate (and win) that way?
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>>167236680
/m/ council has some of the biggest autists int the cup.
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>>167261781
If we feel that those punishments wouldn't actually do anything to punish we'll use other punishments we think will have an effect in that circumstances. I just prefer to not touch stats as a matter of preference but at the same time there are moments where something like that may be the most appropriate. As I keep saying a lot of this depends on the context of the situation which can vary greatly.
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>>167262084
So, you're saying if a manager is so lazy that "no timeouts/no nightlies" wouldn't be a punishment, you'll punish the team with stat nerfs instead?
Why are you so reluctant to punish managers when you've said teams shouldn't be punished when managers fuck up?
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>>167255453
Dzięki, doktorze!
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>>167262473
Stat nerfs is an example, I'd be more than willing to suspend a manager if they really fuck up with the deadlines especially if there's even a hint they missed on purpose, though that'd lead to a fairly easy DQ as well.
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>>167262084
If a manager is not able to provide an export, autopilot the team and ban him from participating in the next cup/6 months.
If the board can't even find a replacement in that timeframe, well shit, maybe they shouldn't participate at all.
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>>167260579
Hello, Lear!
I'm Lear.
Trip:##thirdsatrforspwhen
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Testing Again
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>>167262892
Hey there Lear
nice to meet you
I'm Lear
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>>167262975
Hi Lear!
Nice to meet you too!
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>>167262760
Thank you. That's exactly what I'm saying. This is common sense. Export submission is the bare minimum required of a manager. If he can't even do that on time, he shouldn't be managing and the board should have an opportunity to replace him. If they can't, then that is all the proof you need that there is a lack of board interest and the team should be kill.
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Testing
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>>167263245
>implying anybody will actually guess Lear's real trip
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Hat Pick:/o/
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McDonalds > Five Guys
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>>167263513
Probably his password is randomly generated.
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>>167263120
I'm annoyed but not at all surprised by the fact that Lear is completely ignoring this. It's common sense, but the only thing it hurts is Managers (who may or may not be #toplads). Clearly Lear's being evasive about it because he wants personal preference to impact whatever decision is made about a person that misses an export.
>>167262084
Again, missing an export is a manager's mistake - not a board's. What you're suggesting would only ever hurt the board, any manager that would miss a deadline like that (again, easiest thing to do) either doesn't care about any potential penalty or thinks that you're too much of a pussy to enforce it.
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>>167263821
that's be really retarded if it wasn't
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test
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>>167263821
What if PMB, MagicBlue or/and Darkbow have in their password name of their waifu from the show.
(e.g: "#applejack", "#pinkiepie")
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>>167264062
testing this
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Testing
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>>167259948
If you murder Hitler, the world sees you as a hero, but Germany sees you as a villain. /mlp/ may see this as becoming the bad guy, but nobody else would condemn a move that is against a greater evil.
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>>167264175
Holy shit that's pf's actual trip.
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>>167263821
It's a specific phrase so I guess someone could guess it.
>>167263970
It's difficult to only punish the manager and not affect the team when one has such an impact on the performance of the team. Suspending the manager and putting a team on autopilot is a way to do that but that can't be the only way to apporach the situation.
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>>167264062
testing
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>>167264283
Like this
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>>167264062
Don't be retarded anon.
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testing in progress
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>>167241454
>/mlp/ is the circlejerk defending Lear
This is about as wrong as a statement could possibly be.
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Testing
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>a sub DMF is the MVP
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>>167264283
Well if it can't be the only way, what are the other options that only punishes the manager? A personal spanking by you? Because it sure as fuck ain't stat nerfs or no nightlies.
I'm sure you have at least one example that you thought of when you decided to introduce this ""rule"".
>>
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>>167264283
>Can't be the only way to approach the situation
Any "way to approach the situation" that involves the team's manager being allowed to manage their team (even with nerfs) says to casual viewers that the cup's management is fine with punishing a board for a manager's actions. Autopilot or near-autopilot teams can still be competitive, and if you're worried that there's going to be this huge disadvantage for the board without a manager around, set a default set of instructions for 'autopilot' teams (auto-sub by ability, subs at 65' or something stupid like that).
Seriously, the fact that you're pushing so hard for "literally any solution that doesn't hurt the manager's feelings" is just completely against the spirit of the cup. If you're worried that more and more boards are going to drop out because their managers are the only people that care about them, maybe that's a sign that those boards don't NEED to be represented.
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>>167264687
>DKfox
If you're not already using this you should start.
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this is my real trip, guys
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>>167264680
>A personal spanking by you?
Stop making me want to miss the export deadline
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>>>/qa/986597
This is place for testing trips.
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If a team is late, it should be DQ'd. No stat nerf, no Timeout removal, just straight DQ. It's unfair to other teams that one group gets to basically be a three-team affair with a free 3 points bringing up the rear.
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>>167265130
we already have that though, /n/ is in winter
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>>167264563
>Replying 8 (eight) hours later.
Hey Ved, instead of shitposting, why don't you make sure to have the hype video ready?
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>>167264750
>set a default set of instructions for 'autopilot' teams (auto-sub by ability, subs at 65' or something stupid like that)
/vg/ League does this but it might just be a QD thing because it also happened in the Multinational Bowl.
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test
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>>167264680
One example would be exactly how it was handled in Spring 15 where a loss of nightlies and live management was appropriate.
>>167264750
I agree that sending letting someone fully manage after missing the deadline would likely be a mistake. I'm just not saying we'll do one thing specifically because the situations where people miss the deadline need to be adressed depending on the circumstances and that can vary.
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>>167265482
Last test
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>>167265217
How many team would need to be DQ for >>>>>>>/a/?
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>>167265492
>no nightlies and live management
>team becomes free points
>manager gets away with it scot-free
What a perfect way of punishing the manager while minimalizing the damage done onto the board.
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>>167266128
all of them
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>>167265492
No, the way it's treated needs to be uniform because that's fair. Tailoring the punishment based on who fucked up and the excuse they feed you is cronyism and favors managers over boards. Your head is on backwards.
Look at the push back you are getting on this. Who is in your corner telling you the rule change was a good idea? Anybody?
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>>167266264
I don't see it as cronyism to say that since the circumstances can change, so should the ways we can deal with them.
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>>167266928
>I don't see it as cronyism that I can deal out various punishments as I wish, not bound by any rules
Yeah, you would say that.
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Can't login on implyingrigged.info, what gives? No error, just a refresh and im still logged out
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>>167266264
I don't normally wade into these things, but since you've asked, I think the unspecified punishments thing is fine.
The cup is run on trust. Everyone here is doing it for free and there is very little accountability. But I think that's fine, since we mostly all want to do this and want it to go well. A manager might miss an export in because they want to get /a/ into the group stage, or a tree might fall on a powerline and kill the computer their export is on ten minutes before the deadline. Or maybe a family member is hit by a car and the manager spends the afternoon in the hospital with them. I think that so long as the manager is prompt about informing Lear et al of the delay, the option for tailored consequences should be left open. It can be up to /merit/ to make a decision about whether or not they believe the excuse because, as frustrating as it may be, the cup is run by people.
I'm not saying we should all trust Lear blindly without question. But leave him the option to make decisions that benefit the cup on a case by case basis.
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I miss managing
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>>167267270
we're hacking it
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>>167266928
>Cronyism is the practice of partiality in awarding jobs and other advantages to friends or trusted colleagues,
It's literally cronyism.
A manager's issues/circumstances =/= a board's issues/circumstances.
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>>167267538
>missing having to put up with an ungrateful fanbase, getting PES'd, having to make tactical/aesthetic exports, etc
Get help
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>>167267906
yeah so they should punish the board regardless of manager circumstance?
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>>167267357
If you are worried about not being available to submit your export at 11:59:59 on the due date, then you upload early (at least a preliminary backup export) or you bring on a co manager so he can do it in your unexpected absence.
If you don't take basic precautions, you shouldn't get special treatment.
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>>167267357
Making an export is the most basic job of a manager. Failing to do so makes you incompetent.
You have the option of uploading a preliminary export in case things go wrong, or if you have a co-manager use him as the backup. It's your choice to play games by uploading the export 10 minutes before the deadline, don't come bitching that your power went out. Allowing a case-by-case decision will only make everyone come up with these horrible bullshit stories of their families being genocided and dogs dying and whatever, and it's not like you could prove any of those right.
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>>167268010
Well it's always great to do something and helping your team. By performing and doing well you make people happy who love to see the team as much as you do yourself. It's a nice feeling you get from it.
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>>167268159
No Manager Preset 1 Only Final PEStination
it ain't a punishment
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>>167268159
No, they should punish the manager regardless by banning him from managing that team for at least 6 months and have the team run on auto pilot. That gives the board an opportunity to forgive or replace the manager, which ought to be their decision and not Lear's anyway.
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>>167268310
>every board can just pluck a new manager to save themselves from a manager fuck up that could be totally out of the managers control
>autopilot isn't punishing the board for managerial incompetence
There is literally no way around this that doesn't involve fucking over the board because of the manager.
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>>167268495
>>autopilot isn't punishing the board for managerial incompetence
seagull here ask me anything
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>>167268010
But that's the fun parts.
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>>167268702
Only /cgl/ can use /cgl/ abuse. A team can win on autopilot, but only /cgl/ can get third with it.
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>>167268495
Here's the thing.
Most of them managers that have fucked up in the past are from boards that almost nobody cares about. /i/ and /wg/ are the prime examples. /pol/ back in 14 was due to the manager being a fucking retard. /trv/ in 15 I could've forgiven since Mauled had to visit his mother in the hospital or something, but I won't because it's fucking Mauled, he doesn't even make his own export.
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>>167268495
Agreed in that there will always be collateral damage. However, not providing an export is definitely not a fuck up out of the managers control. It is basically the only responsibility you have as a manager.
You want to punish the manager first and ideally punish the board as little as possible. Sacking the manager so the board can find a replacement hurts them in the current cup, yes. But any other punishment (no nightlies, no live management, stat nerfs, etc.) means you only punish the board while the manager still remains the manager.
I would love to hear a solution that punishes only the manager, but except for the spanking there haven't been any suggestions.
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>>167137876
>my Sufjan OP is in the video
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>>167268495
>every board can just pluck a new manager to save themselves from a manager fuck up
Every board that DESERVES TO BE IN THE CUP can do exactly that. If a board can't, then the corresponding team is a Manager FC and should be out.
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>>167270181
Yeah that's why we got 3 years of mantits and cocksax
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>>167270060
If your board doesn't submit an export it will be forced to play with an export made by Australians
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>>167270472
Then just round up the board and sack those two. CuriousAnon already stepped up. He might actually not be braindead.
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>>167270742
>CuriousAnon [...] might actually not be braindead.
he lives in south carolina dude
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>>167270721
Gold Defender to all teams who don't submit an export.
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>>167270721
joke's on you i'm in the babbies
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>>167270742
Wasn't CA already in Autumn?
Or even Spring
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>>167270778
I'm not a burger, you'll have to explain.
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>>167271186
he is a NASCAR driver
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>>167271186
he eats barbecue with sauce
and not just any saucemustard sauce
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>>167270862
He was a manager in Autumn, no idea about Spring.
IIRC each of them managed one game. CocSux and CA got a win and a draw. Mantis got BTFO and had /co/ aborted in /t/'s place.
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Post yfw deadline tomorrow
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>>167272778
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>>167272778
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>>167272778
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I'll be honest, the shitty aloofness and "Trust me guys, we'll do what's fair" only bugs me because it's Lear saying it. I don't trust him, I don't have any belief that he'll do what's fair, and I think there are enough #toplads 6 inches deep inside him that he's afraid to confront anything that might hurt his relations with any of them.
He's desperate to have everyone he's close to like him, which is the point. He's 19. Boris, for all his faults, was at least open to calling a spade a spade. I could never, EVER see Lear openly calling anyone out, and even when bad news had to be passed (i.e. Maydave), it was people like f4r doing it.
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>>167273765
The aloofness would be concerning with anyone, but it's a red alert when someone with a track record like Lear says it.
Of course that's what happens when you put a impressionable kid who wants friends in charge.
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>>167273765
>Boris
>randomly banning Rowan because he didn't like him
>Lear
>rightfully having no shit when regarding Hue and Maydave
desu, Boris made some awful decisions
The height rules we have now were introduced because he hated Tom and wanted to spite him after Autumn 14
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>tfw changing tactics entirely with 24 hours to go
I hear spring is comfy at least
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>tfw /myteam/'s export is already up
Are we, dare I say it, E L I T E?
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>>167238285
>/mlp/ grabbed it first
Is this the case? I remember seeing a few posts claiming it as rightful /h/ clay back in 2014, did they ever use it or was that just in reference to Daicon?
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>>167274017
Isn't Rowan technically just in limbo? I don't think he was actually banned, just made persona non grata or something. It's a bit fuzzy in my memory. He does have wiki access.
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>>167274409
/h/ definitely used it.It triggers me a little too much when teams use old music from other teams
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>>167275076
I see. This is the main reason why I found /m/'s bet silly, because they aren't actually the team with the rightful claim.
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>>167273765
>when bad news had to be passed (i.e. Maydave), it was people like f4r doing it.
It's a pattern. The DF announcement was handled the same way. Couldn't bring himself to tell DF to fuck off, so f4r had to. Shows his true priorities clear as day.
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>>167273765
>when bad news had to be passed (i.e. Maydave), it was people like f4r doing it
What did he mean by this it was Lear who announced all the shit about Maydave. Or are you talking about when Maydave came into /4ccg/ accusing Lear of harassing him.
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>>167276813
I'm talking about when f4r told MayDave that he was banned, took all of his BS (including the Thanks Dildo comment) and dealt with his arguments.
Or when Maydave came into /4ccg/ accusing f4r of harassing him.
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>>167272778
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>>167275024
>Isn't Rowan technically just in limbo?
What the fuck is limbo?
You are either allowed to manage, or you aren't allowed to manage, which means you are banned.
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One day i'll gather enough guts to contact someone and ask if i can start commentating.
Been watching since witner 2012
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>>167279257
You'll get the chance Anon, just be around for memevitationals and the chance will come, or a second No Bully Bowl
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>>167279781
HE COMES
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>>167279781
Cute Book Horse
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>>167274324
>already fails the AATF
No you aren't.
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>>167280298
Kek
>/s4s/
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>>167280298
how bad is it, doc?
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>>167282049
Meanwhile /soc/ has 6 errors, having two players with invalid stats.
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Post this message on /4ccg/ to bring toxicity back where it belongs
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Anyone know what time roughly the draw is on Saturday?
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>>167282440
>/s4s/
>/soc/
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>>167282440
>all 80 GKs
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>>167280298
>>167281564
>>167282440
>>167282548
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>>167282440
>Meanwhile /soc/ has 6 errors
what an elite thing to do, kudos, /soc/ialspastic
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>>167282440
>take one player who is between 185-188cm
>make him 4cm shorter
>reupload export
Don't fuck this up Shouganina/Squidposter, I support esfores.
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>>167282683
>[s4s] is all about the numbers
>can't do basic math
lmao
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>>167282991
[s4s] only deals with dubs my friend
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>>167279781
hi posterfig
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>/asp/'s anthem
They finally do it, and it's GLORIOUS
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>>167282440
I believe this is grounds for immediate disqualification from all future tourneys, anyone else agree?
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I can't fucking believe /soc/ is dead forever
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>>167283819
>Groudon is alive
Thank god
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>>167237783
>the fucking auto-generated captions on that vid
there went my sides
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>>167284406
Kek, this is my favorite
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>>167137876
Fuck off Marshmallow
Fuck off Smily
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Wow, I can't fucking wait for /m/ to win. AGAIN.
Jesus Christ those a arrogant fucks think they're so fucking tough by picking on unprepared teams, what a load of shit.
What's the point of having a friendly if we know what the result will be anyways
Fucking /m/ ruining the cup, they should be out.
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drawtism
hat pick:fucking /soc/
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>>167286712
>Group A
ok dude
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>>167286712
knockouts:
ro16:
/f/ vs /o/
/asp/ vs /n/
/mu/ vs /c/
/m/ vs /vp/
/e/ vs /vr/
/out/ vs /w/
/soc/ vs /fit/
/h/ vs /d/
quarter:
/o/ vs /n/
/c/ vs /m/
/vr/ vs /out/
/soc/ vs /h/
semis:
/o/ vs /m/
/vr/ vs /soc/
third place:
/vr/ vs /m/
/vr/ wins
final:
/o/ vs /soc/
/soc/ wins
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>>167286712
>group E
>group 3 letters
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>>167288626
>9 is a letter
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>>167288873
Group 3 characters then
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benis
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benis
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benis
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The /mu/ export is up. enjoy.
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>>167292706
Any roster/music changes?
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>>167288112
>/soc/ beating /fit/
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>>167283819
>>167284213
Based Groudon
He's a true dime drawer.
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>>167293469
>>167283819
>>167284213
>Implying GLORIOUS shouldn't be the goalhorn and this be the anthem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgZIhsMTTU4
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>AATF in charge of recognizing height abuse GKs
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>>167294226
This would also be a based anthem
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>/s4s/ didn't even change the shirt names for their new players
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>>167280298
>>167282440
>>167282836
Should be good now (I hope).
>Meanwhile /soc/ has 6 errors, having two players with invalid stats.
wew, maybe that's why I've been testing so bad against them
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>>167294758
SH*T, Haha disregard >>167295656 I suck cocks
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>>167294226
Just because you watched Arrival doesn't mean both songs need to be part of the export.
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>>167295656
/soc/ left their GKs at 80>he can't beat longball with fucking nothing in the midfield
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>>167296079
>beating longball
impossible in 17
it's langbaal year, lads
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>>167295826
>Arrival was 3 years ago
>Nakameme debuted in Takeover Dallas last spring
>Roode debuted in Takeover Ontario last fall
Speak for yourself
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>>167296524
Arrival was last November anon
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>>167296647
last November was three years ago anon
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Okay now [s4s]'s real official issue-free (I hope, third times the charm) export is on the wiki.
>>167296079
>>167296276
what's longball
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>>167296910
something gay and stupid people run
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>>167294341
same
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>>167294758
>Shitty of AATF
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>mfw /soc/ used /4ccg/ as an export checker
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>>167295826
I doubt I could convince /asp/ to use Subconcious instead of Rising Sun, though.
Especially since I couldn't do it the last two years before that either.
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>>167298021
>/soc/ management
>doing anything that might be thought of as smart
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>>167298021
>not crowdsourcing anons to DO IT FOR FREE
All teams that begin with s will have a really great year, I guarantee it
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>test new tactics
>it ain't me starts playing
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Holy Fucking Shit Dude
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>>167299970
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now THIS i can fap to
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>>167299970
I hope you're writing more because I have a half chub just from that
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Wow
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Old Man Sou (ID: !!c6N8js+QjEQ)
2017-02-03 05:30:50
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>>167299970
Proceed.
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>>167301142
W-wew lad
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>actual cup related content gets hot pocketed
fucking bullshit
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Old Man Sou (ID: !!c6N8js+QjEQ)
2017-02-03 05:35:30
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>>167301292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsapQLAjzyM
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This needs to stop
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>>167302205
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Is it time, brothers?
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>>167302736
Now it is
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>>167302736
IT'S TIME BROTHERS
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>>167302736
REMOVE KOALA remove koala
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>tfw you haven't prepared at all for this cup and know you're gonna let your team down
This is a bad feel
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>>167303038
Shut up Smugleaf stop reminding me of things I've also not done and also feel
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>>167303038
>tfw have prepared but will still be everyone's bitch
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Old Man Sou (ID: !!c6N8js+QjEQ)
2017-02-03 06:10:43
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>>167303038
>Been trying to balance financial gains and pre-cup testing along with the other bullshit that I do which isn't very much time for testing at all
I'm getting too old for this shit.
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>>167303739
I still believe in /f/
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>>167303739
5 niggas forward lang ball is meta so you should be fine Sou
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>>167303038
>tfw you and your testers have prepared tons for this cup and you know, you know you'll let them down
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>>167304238
>he has testers
>he still thinks he has the right to complain
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>>167304539
I'm just afraid of all their hard work going to waste. It does make testing things easier but it also adds more pressure to produce results. Otherwise they all just wasted their time and effort.
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>>167304813
>not creating your own mini board-themed tournament so it's not just useful but also fun
git gud fãm
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>>167304813
All you have to do is feed them and tell them that you love them. Besides, testers don't have feelings so do what you want.
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>>167304813
Organize weekly ERP sessions to raise morale. Works wonders.
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>>167305357
Disclaimer: This method may make your actual tactics much, much worse
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>>167305714
but your orgasms much, much more intense
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>>167305714
Fuck tactics dude just copy your old ones and add gegenpress
It's all about the friendships you make
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>>167305876
>he has friends
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>>167306192
Everyone has friends, we just don't get to bring them.
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>>167306192
>he isn't subscribed to the only real magic on earth
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>>167306321
Friends aren't memes.
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>team goes 9(1) in a test
Should I be worried
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>>167307651
If you won, no, if you lost, have fun in Spring
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>>167308130
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draw tomorrow?
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Will 4CC love ever be real?
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ5-8_Nv5NM
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>>167308961
This is the least confident I've been pre-cup ever, PES17 is really bad
Like PES16 was retarded in a lolrandom way, PES17 is retarded in the mentally deficient way
Everything feels weak, sluggish and unreliable due to terrible attacking AI
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What would it take for us to move to FIFA?
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Bloody pIFA Fosters
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Is there a way to change manager's nationality without crashing the game?
And does manager portrait slot matter?
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>>167313898
The manager's nationality is completely irrelevant so why would you even bother changing it?
The manager portrait is also irrelevant
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>>167313950
You are also irrelevant, why are you here?
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>>167237783
as much as i hate mlp those shoes were legit good. They should use those more
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>>167286712
fucking christ group A and C
talk about groups of death
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Someone post the current exports.
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>>167302736
Yes.
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>>167319290
it took you this long to find an unfunny trip to replay to an unfunny fad?
imagine what you could've done in those 6 hours
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>>167316054
Just for you anon
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>>167319290
Sudacas confirmed for cucks.
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>>167319530
>that 5-4-1
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>>167319493
Real trip on, Lear.
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>>167319737
The miscentering of players is triggering my OCD.
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>>167319530
>>167319737
What's with all these silver wingers. Are they actually good now.
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>>167319817
You'll love the /asp/ fullbacks then
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>>167319817
Good.
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>>167319860
what happened to their autistic roster extravaganza? this is basically last summers squad.
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>>167319860
I can't tell whether they have 1(one) preset or they were actually lazy enough not to do their own formation and work something out with the default one.
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/gd/'s export is pretty old but it's labelled as PES17 export so I included it anyway
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>>167320000
Look at that juicy OOP.
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>>167319860
>fullbacks behind the centre-backs
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Also player portraits are off for all teams so the formation is properly visible
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>>167320182
>this /jp/ backline
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>>167319860
Oh look it's the exact same shit they've been running since 2015, can't wait for it to bullshit its way through the groups.
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>>167320182
>we miss the babbys so we wanted to do something about it: the formation: the team: the experience
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>all these 4-4-fucking-2s
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>>167320416
Then lose to /mlp/ in a quarter final.
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These [s4s] presets 2 and 3 are top memes
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Can someone do a formation that is original for once.
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>>167320485
It's probably just their friendlies export.
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>>167145309
never figure people folding paper for being too paranoid
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>>167320957
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Will winter cup be played on PES17?
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>>167321027
>/sp/ playing 4-3-3 in an elite cup
Did I step into a different timeline?
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who is ready for a third star? get your anuses ready
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>>167320982
>"""original formations"""
so you mean shit that doesn't work?
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>>167321027
>kankerball
Twain is a fuckin' hack lmao
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>>167321104
How would you know unless you tried? These formations have been done so many times all it takes are a few autists to figure them all out in no time at all.
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Resume posting exports here
>>167321308
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>>167321336
>4-4-/u/
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>>167321336
>that wall
geez
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>>167321336
TWO SIX TWO
W
O
S
I
X
T
W
O
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>>167311732
Reminder the move to 17 was rushed and a mistake.
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>>167321189
[horse noises intensify]
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>>167326563
stop trying to give me a boner
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>>167328625
nicker
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