XCOM General - /xcg/

pistols are useful

swords aren't

kill aliens

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Wakaliwood voice mod when

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEoGrbKAyKE

long war 2 is balanced and fair

>>167052095
I've noticed this happens with almost every big van-type vehicle. Usually on the tile right behind the front end.

Dunno whether or not it was in vanilla or if it's MAGNIFICENT DESIGN, though.

With the way reinforcements work in LW2, does it make more sense to sneak to the objective where ever possible, blitz the guarding pod and just defend the position until the evac arrives?

>stuck under avenger bug after every mission
revalidating my game files after every mission sure is fun

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>>167051989
Black Hand when?
Primary Flamethrowers when?

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0% supply raids are actually really fun

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>>167051989
PSSSH.
Nothing Personal Xeno...

Yellow alert.

>>167052602
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=848571873&searchtext=

>>167052487
Pretty much yea, except blitzing is something you should do if you equipped a decent enough team to take shit on. If this is one of your solo-duo sneak missions, just sit tight until their eyes wander and get the objective.

Also the moment concealment breaks, throw down evac. Doesn't matter where on the path to the objective you happen to be, throw that sucker out.

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YOU'VE GOT NOTHING

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>>167053346
[happy tears]

>>167053537
aeiou

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Magnificent map generation.
I had to waste 3 turns running around this building since every path past/through had scanners/checkpoints.
Upon reaching the cells with no turns remaining, there was a pod inside which triggered the ones outside who managed to shoot through solid walls killing everyone :^)

>>167053537
CHRYSSY IN THE VENTS

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So I have that .rar of the R6 Siege armors and I just now remembered it and I'm gonna use it.
But my question is how exactly do I install this, I've only ever used the Workshop.

>>167053537
WE WILL KICK YOUR ASS

>>167053346
Beautiful

>>167053648
Just make a "mods" folder in your xcom2 folder. Extract the files to the folder their, and then just activate it in your mod launcher. Easy as pie

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VALKYRIA PORTS FOR OFFICERS WHEN?

>>167053797
Oh well thats hilariously simplistic. Reminds me of current Source modding.
Bethesda should really take notes

>>167053798
I don't understand this meme.
It wont look anything like that.

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>>167053738
>>167053537

>second HECU voicepack
>sword a sectoid
>I'M A NATURAL BORN ALIEN KILLER

This is truly the best voicepack.

>>167053902
I don't even need 1:1 HECU Ports, you can model soldiers after the Black Mesa versions pretty easily with vanilla assets and some mods, the only way it could look like them anymore is if it was a direct port.
BUT THERES NO MODS THAT LET ME DO THAT FOR AN HEV SUIT, I JUST WANT A PROPER FREEMAN DAMN IT.
The closest I can get at Tier 1 is mix matching ADVENT gear and EU Armor for Tier 2 but it still doesn't really look like it at all. Theres plenty of high quality models for the HEV Suit out there too.

>>167053798
Here's a comparison between a game render, and an exported model.

>>167053346
This is so much better than that stupid wrist flamethrower

is there any way to reduce advent force strength in a region? I'm trying to liberate one in particular but every mission I'm getting fucked by constant reinforcements and tons of ayys

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>>167054275
:^)

>>167054372
Ignore that region for missions and do missions in other regions.
ADVENT should respond by shifting resources to respond where you are currently fighting them.

>>167054372
Set everyone to "hiding" and go do missions in another region.

Hit troop columns if you can find 'em.

>>167054372
Don't let it get that high in the first place. Once the strength is racked up it'll just fuck you over for basically forever.

>>167054764
all I did was piss them off by raping them tactically, it wasn't like I sat on my hands

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>boot up X2
>Time to get back into my LW campaign
>Menu screen is the AVENGER Defense even though I haven't had one yet
I'm spooked guys

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Downloaded 194 mods for XCOM 2 just now, and I see this Rookie just hanging out. Made me laugh. What do I even call this dude

>>167055997
clothmonster

I like to think the Alien Hunter weapons were, or were based off of, ancient weapons made by some of the alien species before they achieved space travel/were picked up by the Ethereals.

>>167055997
"Family Man"

>>167055997
Johnny Jihad

>>167055997
The fern

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>>167051989

Kawaaayyyy Edition you say...

>>167056097
>>167056135
>>167056221
>>167056302
Johnny "The Clothmonster Fern Family Man" Jihad

>>167056121
>crossbow
>wheel-lock pistol
>throwing axe

all of this shit exists on earth

>>167056750
Wow I bet you don't even know that aliens built the pyramids.

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>>167052075

Now you done it.

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What the fuck is this ice cream shop that keeps showing up in my missions and why does it have vaulting not enabled on its block.

>>167057031
No tresspassing allowed.

>>167057031
Do you have any map packs

>>167057265
No. LW2 only. It's showed up in >>167053579 too.
Doesn't let you vault over ANYTHING.

>>167057031
>>167057308
That's because your soldier have a degree of decorum unlike your uncivilized ass.

>>167057031
Nevermind. Seems I can't vault over anything on this map and smoke/flash don't show tiles.

I'm guessing this is just a bugged map; saw someone posting about this yesterday too.

>viper spits acid through 2floors below me onto my men
Yeah. Okay. Sure.

>>167058335
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=844147782
Try this? I had the same problem, and I activated this mod on the same map and the problem was gone.

>>167058484
Placebo. LW2 has it enabled by default and it still happens. Though it probably has something to do with 2 apparent maps that are "bugged and we're fixing them in the next patch"

>>167058524
Well, if that code doesn't work, then my experience has to be chalked up to the game being inconsistent, because I, on a Non-LW2 playthrough mind you, played through a mission mostly twice, once without and once with that mod, and it drastically changed the line of sights.
My troops could no longer target guys in a house on floors they were just about directly underneath, with no terrain damage because they weren't even spotted yet.

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>>167053346
HOLY SHIT!

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>2 man team
>1 specialist, 1 shinobi, both have smgs
>ADVENT strength one
>Enemy readiness normal
>100% infilatrated
>Extremely light
>THREE TURN EVAC
Why? I'm not gonna do it now, but seriously, why is the evac timer so high?

>>167059023
Because the mission site is so far from the avenger, just look at the map.

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>>167053346

Time for some ayys to lose control of the situation.

>>167059023
Higher Advent strength? Default is 2, you need 200% to drop it to 1.

>>167059263
Advent strength is at 1 currently.

>>167059023
So I'm looking at the UFOpaedie, and base is three turns, 1-3 squad size knocks off a turn, and 100% infiltration doesn't modify anything. So I should be sitting at 2 turns, in which case I could consider intel boosting to get a higher infiltartion % to knock off a turn getting me down to 1. So yeah, not sure why it's at three, but clearly not worth it now. I'm already iffy on small team missions anyway.

Which .ini file do I need to be in to change the name of classes?

Changing Shinobi to Scout.

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>>167059553
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>>167059553
Get out of here you disgusting non-weeb.

Which is more fun? Long War 1 or Long War 2?
I haven't touched any of the Long Wars yet, and I want to start a campaign on one of them. LW2 looks like it has the more fun classes with unique abilities, but LW1 looks like it might not have some of the Guerrilla Warfare trap falls that might fuck with a scrub player like me.

>>167060045
>Which is more fun? Long War 1 or Long War 2?
I couldn't give an answer to this yet

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>>167060045
lw1
It may have been bullshit at times but atleast the core gameplay didn't discourage combat.
Only a few missions in 2 are combat-centric and the rest heavily punish you for going loud to the point the meta to do most is 1-2soldiers each.

It feels more like a chore at times, especially early game and with the invisible timer counting in the background when you eventually start getting on your feet the game tells you to make a new campaign if you were unlucky. It might just me being really salty about all the fucking bugs i've experience in 2 so far but I felt like 1 was far more stable too.

>>167060415
>not going in with 6 man squads and blowing every one the fuck out
No wonder you aren't having fun. I wouldn't be having fun either if I only ran stealth missions desu.

>>167059553
bump

>>167060548
t. man on rookie.

>>167060647
Why don't you just enjoy veteran like everyone else anon? There's nothing stopping you. As far as I can tell, the only thing keeping you from going loud and having fun is yourself.

>>167060715
To be honest, I'm starting to feel like doing that.
I really like the added depth and complexity but the additional layers of rng and aggroing every single enemy on the map five steps out of the skyranger are starting to give me an ulcer.

>>167061152
Veteran with savescumminv then? No handholding, but you can eliminate most of shitty RNG.

>>167060715
im playing on commander and really fucking HATE how bad the game punishes you for wanting to esplode shit. taking a technical or grenadier literally fucks you before you start a mission with the +infil time. the option is there for 10 man squads but i'm like 4 months in and i haven't used one, i haven't even used an 8 man yet. what's the fucking point of even including it in the game when you're pretty much railroaded into using 6 or less 'quiet' classes

>>167061492
>savescumming ever
Lad, I'm speaking of how I didn't get fuckall for "find a lead" missions until it was too late and the grazeband being an annoying piece of shit.

>>167061602
Because loud missions and intel boosts exist?

>>167061602
You put everyone on intel and you get missions with like 6-10 day infiltration timers.

>>167061641
Kill fucker missions are few and far inbetween and spending a months worth of intel just to get a bit of infiltration is pretty wasteful.

>>167061602
More missions you do with an officer and the higher rank they get the less their infiltration time takes; I know it's shitty but the biggest issue with using grenadiers and technicals is waking up the entire map.

>>167061768
All defense missíons are loud, and happen pretty often.

>>167061971
>happen pretty often
>implying
In a year I had, what, 3? 2 supply 1 intel evacuation.
If you're getting them a lot you got quite a few faceless in your ranks, Anon.
You could argue that the extraction missions are for mass murder but they're easier done with a single shinobi.

How can you tell whether you have a liberation mission?

>>167062061
Not even. My havens are clean, because I put decent officers in there as advisors.

>>167062061
Oh, and three supply raids and two troop collumns.

>>167062108
Mission reward should say something like Liberation in the text on the left box.

Does the upgraded PC bonuses perk in the GTS affect PC's already applied to soldiers

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>PLEASE GRENADE US

>>167062430
Time for some rocket man

>>167062430
>bye loot

>>167062652
I mean this is a Moderate Troop Column mission so killing everything as efficiently as possible>loot this time around.

>>167062705
Troop column? Then you're losing the loot AND the corpses.

>>167062842
Since when does explosives destroy corpses? Was it like that in Vanilla?

>>167062892
it's a long war change

>>167062938
I'm pretty sure you didn't get blown up corpses in vanilla either, but then again I might be misremembering things. It's been a while since I played it.

>>167062983
You get corpse in vanilla X2 when you blow them up, it was just the loot risk.

>>167062938
reee
Well as it stands the main Corpse I NEED are the Captain and the Viper for later and they won't die to the grenade even at highest roll. Being Moderate my Shinobi already spotted about 3 other pods to our left anyway (and who knows how many more in other directions) so I don't think we'll need to worry about getting corpses.

What is the best team late game vanilla?

>>167063193
1 Specialist
1 Ranger
1 Sharpshooter
3 Grenadiers

>>167063193
6 psionics with 6 blaster bomb war suits

>>167063230
this is gonna take forever

>>167063193
2psionics 1 grenadier 2assaults 1medic

>>167063193
1 of everything including Psi Ops except Grenadiers, take 2 of those.

>>167063375
this

>>167063193
>1 ranger mostly for scouting
Phantom > Shadowstep > Run and Gun > Implacable > Untouchable > Rapid Fire
any other ranger build is wrong imo

>1 specialist for hacking mech/threat assesment/overwatch and make sure your dudes dont bleed out if you fucked up
Combat Protocol > Haywire Protocol > Field Medic > Threat Assessment > Guardian > Capacitor Discharge

>1 sharpshooter for killing things
everything from the sniper tree, gunslinger is a worst version of grenadier and assault

>2 grenadier for blowing up covers/shredding mechs
Shredder > Suppression > Holo Targeting > Chain Shot > Salvo
1 with Saturation Fire and 1 with Rupture

>1 psi op just cuz

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>>167062430
Was worth it. Got out with 13 corpses and only 2 Light Wounds. Sharpshooter Officer with Focus Fire is a miracle worker.

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Dirty Bomb ports when?

>>167065026
What the fuck is up with those proportions?

What is the recommended squad size and gear level for regional HQ?

>>167065391
As much as you can. The opposition depends on local ADVENT strength and how far you are in the game, and any timings are therefore useless.

>>167065391
you should be at beam weapons at least I think since the tower is pretty damn rough

How is this for a class setup?

>Spec Ops
Scout: SMG/Rifle + Holotarget
Infiltrator: SMG/Shotgun + Sword
Sniper: Sniper Rifle + SMG

>Support
Medic: SMG/Rifle + Arc Thrower
Engineer: SMG/Shotgun + Gremlin
Psi Ops: SMG/Rifle + Psi Emitter

>Infantry
Ranger: Rifle + Knife
Assault: Shotgun + Sawn Off
Gunner: Chaingun + SMG

>Heavy Ordinance
Grenadier: SMG/Rifle + Grenade Launcher
Rocketeer: SMG + Rocket Launcher (real one)
Flamer: SMG/Rifle + Flamethrower (real one)

>>167065494
Infil time of 15 days for 100% is damn nasty though.

>>167065497
LW2 m8. The end of the mission chain for Liberating a region is a Network Tower. Hes lucky if he has Lasers this early.

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>>167065150
It's at an angle.

>>167056998
Is that girl holding colichemarde.

>>167065608
I'd say hold off on doing the tower then
I tried the tower on my save with guns, and jesus it's a mess.

>>167062430
Flashbanging Intensifies.

>>167065719
I'm past the tower, I'm talking about regional HQ. Final mission in the liberation chain.

>>167061602
Once you've expanded and started pissing off Advent you start getting a lot of ambushes and supply raids. I often send max size squads on those if the timer is short and infiltrating is pointless. Then there's retaliation missions and HQ assaults.

When the squads have had a bit of time under an officer it's pretty easy to get 6 day infiltrations with an 8 man squads and I've not even bought the GTS upgrades yet.

>>167065805
Regional HQ seemed easy honestly.

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help me

>>167066336
the pack of medical supplies looks dumb, but why do i like that part of the design so much?

>>167066383
raise a white flag, don't worry they'll understand and then peacefully walk away

>>167066383
you're beyond help

>>167065391
It's fairly easy at lasers and predator. An A team that is specced mostly for cooldown abilities can take advantage of the no time limits on the longer mission. Just take it slow and use a shinobi to set up OW ambushes.

It's doable at ballistics, the killing power compared to lasers isn't the issue, it's having enough abilities and resources to contain and destroy the pods as they come without moving around too much and triggering pods.

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>>167066336

>promo image
>strap of medical supplies clipping through grenades

>>167066383
>getting fucked this bad in the non-threatening part of the mission
Yeah, RIP.

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is there a guide somewhere what to build first? what research do i focus on? do i inflitrate with big teams or small ones? is there any benefit above 100percent inflitration?

>>167066636
Well in that case I think I'll be fine, even though a lot of my soldiers are resource-based. People talking about hidden reinforcements timers had me worried but I might be confusing this and the blacksite raid.

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>>167066827
Calculate your infil time so that you get Extremely Light or 200%, whichever is faster.

I think it was a poor design choice to not let players recover corpses on gorilla ops missions, because that means there's even less incentive to actually go and fight advent instead of sneaking past with a single shinobi and yoinking the objective and buggering off.

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>>167066676
If you think that's bad I'm playing on normal, I brought a rookie and had two supports and two heavies.

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Hello guys. I'm not a mods creator. I just have an ideas. It would be very nice if someone engaged by them.

The basic idea: transform the game about the resistance versus aliens in the game about a zombie apocalypse. Remove aliens and add different kinds of zombies as the enemies. Change the gameplay towards survival in the global epidemic.

New enemies:
Zombie - an ordinary person, infected with virus and reanimated in as the walking dead. Slow and weak, dangerous in large quantities.
Armored - a former SWAT officer or soldier, wearing a flak jacket and a helmet. It has more health and one\two\three points of armor.
UGC - a former scientist. That one is protected from the fire.
Runner - mutated species with improved leg muscles and an increased rate of reaction. It has a little more health, good mobility, and the lightning reflexes.
Crawler - the opposite of a runner. It has a low profile, and likes to dig in the ground, ambushing.
Splitter - zombie with ranged attack. Spits toxin, poisoning the humans. When destroying, it leaving a toxic cloud.
Suicider – an unliving pressurized container with a zombie toxin. Explodes, dealing damage and curing the nearest zombies. It has a chance to resurrect the corpses caught in the blast radius. When destroying, it leaving an acid mess.
Sturdy - big and strong zombie, which has a large amount of health. When injuries has a chance to fall into a rage.
Queen - a special type of infected has great health and a high mobility. Her scream can disorientate and stun human soldiers and call for help of new zombies.
Exo Zombie - an elite soldiers infected with the virus. It has high mobility and survivability. Targeting system in its high-tech armor is still functioning, so that it can make a shot of heavy weapons.
Zombot - advanced pattern of technology, an infected combat cyborg. Extremely dangerous. From the perspective of the game - it's the MEK from the Enemy Within with a zombie head.

>>167067541
>Zombies

No.

There are already a metric fuck ton of zombie games out there.

>>167066457
character models is literally the only thing splash damage excels at

>>167067541
>ZCOM
Man, I haven't played plague inc in years.

>>167066827
thats a good crab

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>>167067541

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>>167067541

Turret - unchanged. These automated systems have thermal targeting so its attacks humans, but not a zombie.

New weapons tiers:
Tier 1 - Pipe guns. At the beginning of the game in ZCOM no access to military depots, and they are compelled to produce a custom weapons in the workshops. Landmark - pipe guns from Fallout 4. Add Molotov cocktails and handicraft grenades with a can body.
Tier 2 - Firearms. No change, except that the new visual model.
Tier 3 - Laser guns. The laser is a very effective weapon against the undead.

New game mechanics:
All units of weapons and equipment is no longer infinite, made in a single copy. Instead the indicator of Avatar project - zombie apocalypse indicator. Dark event replaced by ”Mutations” leading to randomly enhance zombies or makes a new nests. UFOs, of course, must be removed from the game. Instead towers detection – Zompod, an organic column with a virus. Zombies reinforcements are dug out of the ground. Of course, this is not marked with a flares. Retaliaton missions replaced by attacks of zombie swarms. Instead of ADVENT factories - the destruction of Zombie Nests which increase the level of the zombie apocalypse.

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do you HAVE to start in india?

>>167066827
I want a pet crab that dual wields revolvers

>>167067742
And no one of them is a strategy.

Hq Assaults are always going to be at swarming, right? So the Advent strength in the region doesn't really matter after the network tower?

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>>167067541
>>167067839
I would only play your zombie autism if you played as the ADVENT forces

>>167067970
>Zombie virus is engineered and done by Xcom as a last ditch effort to at least keep the war at a terrible standstill as the ADVENT forces are in shambles attempting to wade their way through city to city in their shithole death cities

Zombies are dumb anyway, but I would play it.

>>167067893
No, it's random. Restart the game and look at where the first op is, that should tell you your starting region.

I had to restart twice because the game w as bent on having me start around niggers.

>>167068076
>Not Xcom experimenting on captured zombies and crysalids as a form of anti ayy shock unit going horribly wrong
>Instead of giving birth to crysalids the embryo is absorbed by the zombie and empowered
>Zombie ayy units, Xcom agents and civilians literally crawling all over cities and military bases, mindlessly infecting whatever creature they come across
>Forests and beaches covered in animal crysalid hybrids gyo style

>>167068076
>literally greentexting the opsite of what I posted
>turning MILLIONS (the only level of numbers that would slow down ADVENT) of humans into Zombies
>i-its was a last ditch e-effort ;-;

top fucking kek anon

>keep getting the advent city map that was broken in 1.1
>rooftops are completely unviable because floors are made of glass
>vipers, turrets and sectoids keep memeing on me
Make it stop.

>>167066383
What happens to your assaults and rocketeers 1st off.
and 2nd did you brought scattergun/lazer rifle for your troops?

>>167068961
All my other troops were injured so I brought a rookie with the defaults, two supports, with laser rifles, two heavies on defaults and a sniper with a laser. Mopped up the zombies easily enough but then two crysalids cornered my sniper on the roof of a boat and killed him, then jumped down on one of the heavies and finished him off as well. Got caught with my pants down and everyone had to reload at that exact moment, so I pulled them all back to make space, and the rookie aggroed another two 'lids while the other heavy got raped since rocket movement penalty. Rookie gets one shot and the other support succumbed to poison, so I tried to get the last guy to extraction and got cornered. Then I quit and realised the game does not autosave ,so that whole game is gone now.

Why is Snap Shot so shit? Should I just stop using Sharpshooters altogether?

>>167069791
Sharpshooters need to be reworked so that they can hope to be more than a holo-targeting slave at best.

>>167069791
>Should I just stop using Sharpshooters altogether?
They are literally worthless, so yes, you should.

Does doing Tower missions stop ayy activity in the region or is it because all my haven dudes are in hiding? Is it safe to put them back on intel and supply once I take the tower or do I need to wait for full liberation?

>>167071018
Ayy activity does not stop, you're just not finding them due to no guys on intel. Also, intel jobs are useless in liberated regions.

THIS FUCKING AVENGER DEFENSE HAS TWO SECTOPODS AT THE START

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS TRASH I CAN NEVER AVOID THIS BULLSHIT MISSION

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU EVADE THE UFO

>>167071127
Literally watch for it on the overmap and dodge it

>>167071279

i did

im sitting there scanning and the ufo isnt even on the fucking map then it tells me its "locked in" and i click the button for "evasive maneuvers" but no matter what it always gets me

in every campaign i play

any changes in LW?
feels like it needs some polishing both balance and stability wise

>>167071093
Do liberated regions just mean only occasional retaliations?

>>167071127
you cant eventually
you can once maybe twice
but you will be caught and you will have a defense mission if you dont speedrun your campaign

>>167071127
>TWO SECTOPODS
Good. Hack one of them.

>>167066383
>Freud
Clearly your troubles stem from early childhood. Being surrounded by chrysalids represents your repressed desire to be gangraped by your own parents.

Is there a comprehensive LW2 wiki up anywhere?

This was a nasty one.
Started on open ground, with only low cover nearby, surrounded by aliens just outside visual range. It took a bit of savescumming to figure out how not to die during the first two rounds

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>>167072312
And of course I forgot the image.

>>167072194
Not yet. Closest I guess is that lets play by one of the designers.

How do I stop the doom timer on LW2?
Just lost my 3rd camp to the bullshit invsible clock.

I was so close to building shadow chamber too.

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haha

>>167072550
XComLW_Activities.ini in the config folder.

>>167072550
>edit the .ini's so the game is actually fair and not a FUCKING BEAGLE REEEEEEE love letter from Lump
And try for a fourth run, use a hero unit if you want.

Oooh baby, bout to start a Swarming troop ambush in a strength 1 region. The amount of body bags I'm gonna need for this one will probably be staggering.

>>167073107
>FUCKING BEAGLE REEEEEEE
never going to forget lump's immediate "fix" adding simultaneous 16 battleship infiltrations after activating the gollop chamber, rather than doing something useful like lowering the amount of soul-crushing end game resource grinding

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>gain two extra ammo in your sawed-off shotgun

>>167073332
So you can crit for 22 twice per mission.

>>167073332
You fire off the two in the front and then the two in the back!
Does anyone actually use that thing? It's alright as a last ditch weapon but I'd never take additional ammo on it.

>>167073318
For what purpose would this guy make the final stretch that much more painful? I haven't done much Long War 1, and never read much about its creator who is sounding more like Mount and Blades ACOK mods creator.

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>>167073332
Forgive me for cross pollinating my memes here, but

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>>167073315
VICTIMS

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>>167073473
Am...Am I in heaven? Is this real?

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>>167073632
>>167073473
But anon, overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer!

>>167073107
>>167073045
The shit just gets too ridiculous, dark events just popping everywhere. Mission this, mission that, you never know which one, if left undone, will trigger a retaliation that will cripple your fucking region.

I am okay with the overall difficulty, but this was the 2nd time I was close to getting chamber done, with even faster pace than before and it still was not enough.
When do I even get to fucking see the Avatar clock?!

>>167073708
>When do I even get to fucking see the Avatar clock?!
after you liberate your first region

>>167073771
Oh god. that means i've been going for the wrong objective.

>>167073437
It's pretty great for when zerkers get close. Shoot once with light em up, them follow up with a double barreled shot of lead. Could add up to 30 damage.

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>start a new campaign in LW2
>perception PCS as a drop

>>167074058
Yeah, but did you ever find your self ever in the situation where you needed 4shots?
It's saved me a few times from zerkers/muton chris kyle's but I never once thought "I need more ammo for this!"

>>167074127
>+3 aim

>>167074289
better than nothing
especially with NCE

>>167074168
It's still pretty useful for those flanking close range shots although maybe the perk should also buff the range or something, or add arpen.

>>167073771
How do you even do this? I was taking every "Investigate a lead" mission I could find that wasn't pure suicide and it never unlocked.

>>167073469
salsa?

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>>167074919
Gotta keep doing them, bucko. MAke sure you're on latest ver since 1.1 buffed the chance of unlocking the quest path.
Hope you don't get cucked like me, I didn't get tower until a few days before the timer filled.

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>M-mission accomplished...

Pretty good for C team, they are not even my B team.

On another note, how do I repopulate a haven with 0 personnel?

>>167075435
Station a soldier there for recruiting and scan there for free resistance personnel missions.

>>167072916
Now we will truly find out whether Sam Hyde can really keep getting with it.

>>167075514
thx

>>167075435
What really rustles my jimmies about this one is that my officer was 1 dash away from the Evac, got taken out by a gunner with what must have been a 20-30% overwatch.

Especially after the cock tease of him surviving the previous turn with 1 hp.

>>167071127

update : beat it by cheesing it with a corporal phantom ranger and sniping the disruptor

he got left behind

goodnight sweet prince

>>167075058
I didn't even get that. I got a game over before the mission unlocked.

>>167075960
That's why you gotta be on 1.1 and hope your luck is better.
Though with 1.1 i'm actually getting a shit ton of "find a lead" missions compared to previously so I'm sure you'll be fine on a new campaign. Just gotta learn how to cheese them; since half this mod is cheesing.

so what are the best items and where to put them? is silencer good?

>>167076248
Silencers are a good staple item, bring down infiltration by a few hours each, I think it goes 2/4/6 on normal, advanced elite. Autoloader is free reloads so why not, scopes a scope, might as well use a laser sight if you're using an assault or no scopes; stocks are only really good on snipers who are not very good.

>>167076248
Stocks, in my experience, have been pretty useless on anyone other than a Sharpshooter since you need to be constantly on the move. And even then, they're not amazing on Sharpshooters either - only really good if you need to reload and have an unused action.

All right /xcg/
Sapper or Rapid Deploymen & Shaped Charge

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GET FUCKED ADVENT, GET ABSOLUTELY FUCKED.

How do I change LW2 so enemies can't shoot my guys who are having sex with the snake? It's such fucking bullshit especially since the snakes attack to pull you out of cover hits 99% of the time.

>>167075435
Set a haven advisor and it'll slowly repopulate.

>>167077047
If Mutons keep their tribal customs
Do they willing serve the Ethereal or are they and other Ayy species mind controlled/enslaved.

I was of the belief that they were mass mind controlled on a genetic level

>>167077697
Mutons are the end result of a few centuries of advent, I think. Humanity would become the same eventually too, the only realy enemies that are controlled entirely on psionics is the advent soldiers I think.

>>167077790
Psionic networks seem inefficient. I assume the clone army would eventually make its own 'human' culture after existing humans fade away.

Can Advent fuck?

>>167059553
Please respond

>xcom3
You fight back and liberate all the Ayy homeworlds
>an entire planet of sneks

>>167077697

I always assumed it varied by species, Mutons are barbarians so they willingly serve the Elders as long as they are thrown into fights, the vipers were said to be loyal, sectoids cruel dicks.

But Archons and Floaters were just slaves, and Advent are mind controlled scrubs. But the ending of Xcom2 seems to point to all aliens being slaves to the elders.

so basically, fucked if i know.

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>Playing through XCOM 1 for the first time (working through backlog)
>Love the atmosphere and mechanics
>Have to save scum on easy mode to not get completely BTFO every mission
>Have no idea what I'm doing with base and panic management and countries are leaving XCOM project right and left

Jesus christ how do I not suck at this. Are there any decent guides, especially wrt base/panic management?

what does haven: 4 mean? sometimes its haven 5

>>167078156
>But Archons and Floaters were just slaves

Floaters were chopped up, mutilated Mutons, weren't they? I assumed they were the result of Mutons which had been crippled but not killed in combat, so the Ethereals slapped enough cybernetics on them to make them functional again.

>>167078204

Build Satellites, all on satellites, forever.

Also Medium cover is no cover.

And cars are NOT your friends.

>>167078239
Amount of rebels working?

>>167078204
Just keep playing
Every squad wipe feeds your resolve
every campaign makes X2 harder

>>167075046

http://curiouscube.tumblr.com/
The joke is that for a time in Killing Floor 2 the Firebug Perk would double the magazine size of any weapon.

I guess no one is willing to join up with xcom, seeing as the original is free on the humble store.

>>167078330
idk so whats better then? australila has 5 havens africa has just 4. i have to pick a territory to contact

>Bagel starts his LW2 campaign by spamming overwatch on his spawn

>>167053648
I'm waiting for the official workshop release. Why am I autistic

anyone know which ini file has the settings for not created equally?

>>167079517
He's also made a number of pretty consequential errors so far. I'm betting on a short or unfinished first campaign.

>>167079973
Answering my own question: it's in XComLW_Toolbox, and it's also pretty easy to do what I wanted, which is to set hack to 5 for all generated rookies. Just change the appropriate line to STAT_CAPS=(Stat=eStat_Hacking, Min=0, Max=0)

>>167079007
it just means australia will have 5 rebels available after contact and africa 4, unless one of those regions is a stepping stone for somewhere you need to be go australia

>tfw taking all those glorious 0% infiltration supply raids for the free corpses
why did they think making all of these having >2 day infiltration times was a good idea, as it is you either win your first one and slingshot yourself into the campaign or you lose and may as well restart

>>167081253
Are you actually going on those missions? I know I don't.

>>167082367
Honestly I've been avoiding them too, but if you complete one you're set for the entire game.
They're not that hard, I think I'd just avoid using technicals rockets unless absolutely necessary.

I am on legendary and Advent are fielding multiple Mutons on Normal strength level 2 missions.

I've got 3 sets of predator armor and just enough to equip a squad with lasers.

Is it enough, or should I start again?

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>>167082971
forgot pic

I keep taking varying losses, even though I complete most missions. It doesn't feel sustainable.

>>167082367
they're honestly a lot more doable then they seem, find somewhere good to set up and you can just overwatch camp all day long, the whole enemies drawn to noise thing works against them with no timers

You guys noticed what happens when you blow up the road terrain in the city centres?

>>167083212
Last op I went to there is no way I could have handled a big force. It was a forest, so everyone was just stuck behind their respective trees of heavy cover. Not really sure if I would win an engagement like that after I ran out of explosives as the sheer volume of fire would definitely be in their advantage.
Later on I could see it, but with early squads, shooting is just to unreliable to get anything done.

>>167083295
The small craters?

>>167083295
No

Is there a reason to have an advisor in a liberated region?

>>167083373
>>167083378
There's a glowing/snaking green energy glow in the cracks

>>167083389
You can put in an engineer for tons of dosh

>>167083439
For normal grenades? Are you sure that's not just the plasma nades?

>>167083389
a soldier will root out faceless, and an engineer will make you mad dosh

>>167083373
i've been doing them with two technicals and two hail of bullets/demolition gunners, after the first two or three pods the ayys just run out of effective cover to approach from

>>167083634
>i've been doing them with two technicals and two hail of bullets/demolition gunners
Yeah I only have a few people ranked that high.

>>167083531
In a liberated region? You still get faceless in liberated regions? Goddammit.

>>167083508
>engineer
Holy shit I didn't even know that was a thing. All my engineers are busy at the moment though, would putting a scientist there do anything?

>>167083707
not sure if you still get them recruited, but they don't leave when advent does

>>167083809
more intel

did you not do any reading at all

>>167083893
Nope!

>>167083973
It's right there in the Commander's quarters

>ayys can get formidable via a permanent dark event
i really hope they make some way to get rid of these in a later patch

>>167084079
It's the new research, anon.

>>167084079
I'm cool with them tactical dark events being permanent, but I wish they came a little slower. Ending the third month with like 6 active is a sure-fire way to murder your campaign.

>>167079517
>Talks about how Concealment "removes tactical depth"
>while demonstrating the same "tactical depth" everyone used in EU to avoid getting assraped by three pods at once
The guy's entertaining, but a bit too fond of his cheese if you ask me.

>>167084215
i know it's supposed to represent that, but they already get progression from normal trooper to advanced, then elite. they'd be okay as navigator type bonuses, but as is practically every ayy in a pod gets them

>>167084360
>a bit too fond of his cheese
Probably why he hates timers.

Though to be fair, the timer mission with the fucking huge maps where you HAVE to yellow move for at least 5 turns is some serious bullshit.

>>167084360
>talks about how concealment makes the game easier
>immediately starts talking about his old concealment cheese that was so broken, Jake had to fix it before the game even came out

>>167084590
True concealment is canon. They just forgot to put it in the game for some reason.

>>167086956
>cheating is canon

>Contacting 6th region
>Suddenly 5 terror missions in a row, one in each area
>rapid response pumps out reinforcements each turn, if you don't finish the mission in 5-6 turns they start throwing groups of 8 every turn

save me from this hell, the invasion mission on my liberated area was complete bullshit.

>>167087193
No, canon is cheating.

So now that the dust has settled, are we all in agreement that LW2 is a failure, just like its predecessor?

>>167089362
No.

>>167089362
>So now that the dust has settled
This seemingly innocent phrase somehow makes for the perfect bait. I can't really explain why though.

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>>167073469
I want to FUCK Zerker-tan

>>167089658
You saw it get used as bait so much that you, me and half this site subconsciously associate it with bait.

>>167077226
>wanting to get rid of any magnificence
Just alpha strike everything, bro.

>tfw vahlen-viper will never be canon

>>167090219
>furfics will never be canon
What a surprise.

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>ITT
anyone more competently know their way around the .ini to reduce/remove Itchy Trigger Tentacle Rape frequency
I'm fine leaving it in to punish shit positioning as long as pods aren't guaranteed an effective triple move which will almost certainly find a flank and /then/ also getting to fire/RFA

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>>167090294
>fur
>viper
>vahlen
filthy femfaggot reporting in, you have my attention

Am I right in remembering that in EW you can just take a break from story missions whenever you feel like it without any ill effects?
I wanna grind up my soldiers to be superhuman psychics with a shitload of genetech/make them big-ass robots to laugh at the aliens trying to kill me

>>167090784
The hardest part is probably finding the file.
>STEAM:\steamapps\workshop\content\[NUMBERS]\[OTHER NUMBERS]\Config\XComLW_Overhaul.ini

The chances are different depending on difficulty setting and alien alert level. Search for "REFLEX_ACTION_CHANCE" and read the comments.

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I'm just bringing the corpse back for Tygan to study. Nothing more.

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>Jordan Jordan

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I am just adoring these Swarming supply raids. Really feels like a fucking war.

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>>167091886
>Flashbanging intensifies.
Positioning is so fantastically key when you're against so many ADVENT. Never have i had to hug the terrain so hard & used so many flashbangs & smoke grenades.

>>167091532
Yeah, just manage panic/put a sat everywhere and you pretty much have infinite time unless you screw up.

>>167092107
Sounds good
What's the most game-breaking tech? I remember exploring with camouflage while having a sniper flying around at the starting point was quite powerful

>>167082971
nuke it

>>167092367
ghost suits, ghost grenades. Squadsight snipers slay everything. Assualts get to go point-blank and rapid fire crit everything to death.

>>167092703
>ghost suits, ghost grenades
But those achieve the exact same thing as those genetic modifications you can make to always be hidden in high cover, no?

>>167092906
Sort of, but concealment breaks if you move while the enemy has LOS on you. This stuff just turns you invisible for a full turn and you can move anywhere. Ghost armor also has very strong stats between the health and defense.

idea : if you have two pods active, activating a 3rd doesnt give them free movement

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>>167093692
>i want 3 pods active at the same time

>>167093564
Yeah but as far as I remember, if your mimetic skin guy is currently invisible and the destination is hidden to any ayy's, you can just walk right past them
Either way, there's probably no reason to not just use both

>>167093692
[Statement]: The pod system in general is flawed and trying to fix it amounts to little more than attempting to polish a turd.

>>167093795
>Yeah but as far as I remember, if your mimetic skin guy is currently invisible and the destination is hidden to any ayy's
No your starting point has to be hidden from ayys, not the destination. You can get creative with how you abuse los, but it's tricky and depending on where you are cannot be done consistently.

>>167093843
The pod system has pros and cons. There is not a better system that accomplishes the same things currently.

>Either way, there's probably no reason to not just use both
Can't disagree with that

>>167069738
Ideally you should have some backup assaults and/or rocketeer.
Infantry also works too as well as enginees.
What i do for NFL Mission is that i take 2/3 assaults 2 infantry and 1/2 rocketeers/engineers (or both), you can also take scout for 1 space of assault/infantry.
Assault: Make sure you got CCS really helps out against crysalids while also doing overwatch and take Close Encounters, so you'll able to take out swarm of crysalids in matter of minutes.
Infantry: (Riflemen Bulit) Opportunist and Ranger will dish out maximum damage on crysalids, BRs w/Scope and/or Laser sights helps with accuracy issues.
(Strike-troop Bulit) Aggression and Ranger if you want to go balls out at close range, Target mod and laser mod will benefit your troops in longterm.
Other classes is best you decide how they function out.

>>167093792

who are you quoting you fucking retard

>>167094063
This is not complicated anon

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>>167094063
u ok m80

>>167094021
>>167069738

Oh there's some tips for other classes to keep u in mind.
Engineer: Sapper will absolutely dish out amount of damage against crysalids. and if you do have higher rank engineer, mayhem should 1 max damage or 1 hit crysalid swarm.
Rocketeer: Shredder Ammo is recommended as sometimes if u didn't or don't have laser/higher tier weapons yet, this should help you against crysalid swarm, also take another shred rocket you'll be thanking yourself for maximum damage

>>167073437
Are you kidding? Its fantastic for when you really need something dead, its up to fucking 18 damage.

>>167093991
>No your starting point has to be hidden from ayys, not the destination
So you can start from a hidden point while having cloak active, run into high cover right next to the fucking alien, and they will never spot you unless you move again? Good lord

>>167094726
The AI still knows where you are though. They will probably "accidentally" patrol behind your dude and uncloak them.

>>167094928
Enemies don't uncover you though from what i've seen
https://youtu.be/WgS_QNNuMCw?t=406
That muton had a cloaked soldier right next to it and walked away

>>167095652
timestamp please.
>That muton had a cloaked soldier right next to it and walked away
I also doubt that is relevant to what I said.

>>167096053
You said the AI will walk into your dude to uncloak them, but they can't do that if the only way to unlocak is for him to take an action
It's at 6:46, the link has a timestamp you silly embedder

>>167096161
Yeah sorry I'm a bit rusty. I was more referring to scouting out a pod and then they patrol behind you, guess I forgot you still have to move to get revealed.

Also the timestamp doesn't work.

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How do you contrast these fuckers in LW2? Are AP bullets a must-have against them?

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>ohfuckohfuckohfuck

What do I do /xcg/?

Hold my position or blast that pod by the car?
Dubs decides.

>>167096762
NVM I have to wait. I think its actually impossible when I crunch the numbers.

>>167096568
AP rounds are probably a start, toss on some shredder gunners, explosives, and zap them with assaults and specialists.

>>167096762
>Dubs decides.
XD
Just blow them up dummy

>>167096568
Specialists and Grenades.

>>167096762
you're fucked, blast your own position
allah AYYchbar

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>>167097020
>>167097460
I don't know, waiting worked pretty well.

So I haven't paid any attention to XCOM 2 threads after release
Did it turn out to be the terrorist simulator we all wanted?

>>167097727
You've got 4 turns to get to evac with the targets, you fucked up, boy. Good luck getting your team to come home.

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Please, almighty fucking merciful Christ. PLEASE tell me Long War shows the tiles that would activate a pod.

Setting up and being stealthy was completely impossible in vanilla. With mods I can use the "preview vision" mode to see what can be seen from a tile, but I have to meticulously check EVERY SINGLE TILE that I plan on running across, and zooming the map out as far as it can go checking the edge to see if it lights up the pod my stealthed unit is sitting beside.
Oh whats that? One of the diagonals cut across 1/18th of an inch of a tile's corner you didn't check?
TRIPLE ARCHON ACTIVATED ON THE LAST MOVE OF YOUR TURN STEALTH UNIT FLANKED CRITICAL CRITICAL BURNING PINIONS

>>167093843
It's better to polish a turd than to allow the turd to get free flanking attacks because your sword was too loud.

>>167094928
I've seen AI grenade the location where I last was when I cloaked, not where I moved.

>>167097961
I just use Gotcha and run my cursor along the path they would take, checking each tile for spotting. If they would be spotted I manually waypoint them.

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>>167097960
Rookie and the Technical couldn't make it.

Got all the VIPs and a good amount of loot, nobody actually died so the council man won't be pissy and I can save them again later on.

I'll take it, considering the odds against me.

>easier war

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=853743138

Absolutely not magnificent

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BF4 Torso/Legs Ports when?

>>167098414
>this guy is now shitting out .ini tweaks that make LW easier
This is just embarrassing.

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True Concealment+Reduced Timer Count to balance it Master Race

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>>167098515

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>>167098572
>casual
I bet you play on easy too.

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>get the primary flamethrower weapon mod
>make shotguns, and the flamethrower available on sharpshooters
>make a holotargeter bitch sniper with a flamer and a pistol
let's see how well this works

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>>167098590
>>167098515
BF1 Gun Ports when

>>167098709
>Playing the same strategy over and over again
I'm also playing on Legend, Commander babby.

>>167098709
>>167098572
You're casual if you're using the mod and leave your timers untouched. You should reduce them by 2 on all Concealed mission types.

Holy shit, full squad 0% infiltration Supply Raids are as fun as ghosting extract VIP/recover Data.
Having A-team with only lasers I could scrounge up infiltrating Network Tower made this mission quite tense.
But that's pretty much the reason why I couldn't let this convoy pass.
Probably won't be able to to do this shit on real mans difficulty which is a shame. Veteran is very fun so far.

>>167098942
Test the flamethrower mod with the shocktrooper class

>>167099127
This is objectively the best way of using True Concealment. Its even how it was in Vanilla which is why I'm confused that the author didn't do the same for LW2.

>>167099319
I'd have to edit the shocktrooper class to fit the LW tree
And I ain't doing that

>>167096568
Bluescreen Rounds to dish out amount dmg on mecs.
AP Rounds to bypass points of armor.
EMP and/or Acid Grenade/Bombs can output amount of damage and will shred amounts of armor.

>>167099370
He probably either forgot about it or actually was being a casual.

>>167099481
There's a LW version.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=744114681

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I just checked my .ini for tweaking and the UFO timer for the distress beacon is 16 turns for some reason? I haven't touched that value so is that default or do I need to change that?

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>tfw no Chrysallid-Shiv hybrid

>>167100782
>a weapon to surpass Metal Gear

>>167100910
>>167100782

Animals in Predicaments?

Which file was i supposed to delete to fix the under the avenger bug?

What's everyone's experience with flamethrowers after the patch. They improved the targeting, but nerfed literally everything else. I had a super soldier with infinite mobility as my flamer, before so this feels like it'd be worse overall.

>>167101882
>Which file was i supposed to delete to fix the under the avenger bug?
All of them