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What are you waiting for Edition

>What's new?
>Highly Likely Stukov is the next hero
http://imgur.com/a/KWMig
>Valeera and obligatory annual Chinese market pandering (Free Red Cock Mount)
https://youtu.be/fWY6RbiNgVk
>Latest In Development Video
https://youtu.be/3oD8DrPANfw
>Year in Review
https://youtu.be/sYIpkktbm68
>For new players:
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20506312/heroes-brawl-of-the-week-jan-27-2017-heroes-of-the-stars-1-26-2017
>Latest patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20506310/heroes-of-the-storm-balance-update-january-27-2017-1-27-2017
>Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20483091/weekly-sale-jan-24-31-2017-1-24-2017
>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator
>Current Tier List
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist

>Where do I find you cock riders?
"/join /vg/" in game chat


>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki
There's also a leddit page but we don't talk about that

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First for spiders.
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>>167049562
SPIDERS
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S O O N
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Post an image of your hero without posting your hero.
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>>167050265
varian?
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>>167050265
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>still no personal kill streak announcements
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>>167050265
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>>167050706
Auriel?
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>>167050265
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>medivh
What a cancer. I don't give a shit about his winrate. What a fucking cancer.
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>>167050947
Mm, actually. I'm sort of glad they haven't made him more useful to low mmr players.
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What's the best build for zag?
Pick some other specialist?
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>>167050265
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>>167051931
Yes, although I hope you aren't viewing "Specialist" as a role or position.
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>>167052121
It's QM, so it doesn't matter
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>>167050265
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Protoss babe when?
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>>167050947
He exists purely so pussy ass faggots that 4 and 5 stack in QM can cradle their buttbuddies' little balls for them, effectively making the fight against a full stack harder than it should be.
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>>167053709
Bring Back Mass of Johan
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>>167053165
It's very surprising to see how little r/34 there are of Protoss. Considering how well-known and old the franchise is.
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>enemy 5man premade
>they get utterly stomped
>their only candidate in the after match voting screen gets 5 votes
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>>167054154
>not voting the sole member of the enemy team in MVP screen ironically
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>>167054154
>queue 5-stack
>we always +1 the guy who fed the hardest, failing that usually the support

Although occasionally somebody does make a sick play worthy of a hots updoot.
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>Tired of fucking losing due to stupid shit
>Play Rag
>Win

Ragnaros makes everything better.
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>>167054154
As I was reading that, I was matched against a 4 stack with one lonely extra guy and we stomped them.

I'm pretty sure they blamed the lonely guy, even though 2 of them were the shitters
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Wow, for once Blizzard releases a stealth hero that isn't overpowered for months before they nerf it. I managed a few times to solo her as Sylvanas and still live.

They must actually be learning.
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my name scoobi
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>>167057485
She's shit mate. A stealthy that can't burst belongs in the trash. CC doesn't help at all, a 1.5s targeted stun and a 2s silence don't mean shit if she can't kill anything but a low health murky. And if you aren't stealthed, you still can't contribute to fights at all because that pseudo-Illidan shit is just baaaad.

Buffs fucking WHEN?
I think 40% more AA damage might help.
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Hey /hotsg/ I stopped playing when Gul'Dan came out and I just reinstalled the game to test out Tassadar's new changes.
Now is it just me or is he still a useless piece of shit? His Force Wall was really fun to play with but other than that he deals zero damage and provides zero cc (some of which you have to talent to) other than Force Wall, he's easily outclassed by Auriel and Morales.
Or maybe i'm just talking out of my ass and I need to git gud?
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>Enemy team sticks together like 5 siamese brothers with elmer fudds glue
>My team splits up to go 1v5, one takes camps and leaves because health's low, two soak, and one just hang around near core
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>>167050819
Tahm Kench?
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>>167059292
>tfw no tahm kench announcer pack
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>>167050265
guess who
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>>167059478
Jaina.
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>>167059478
Gazlowe because THEY JUST WON'T STOP FUCKING HIM.
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>>167059478
Lt. Morales
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>>167059789
>>167060094
>>167060095
all wrong
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>>167060252
>all wrong
That's where you're wrong. *unzips*
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Reminder that if you play this faggot, you should probably look into potentially offing yourself.

Piece of shit shouldn't exist.
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>>167061196
just stun him bronzie lmao
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>>167061245

this
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>>167061245
>>167061196
>see him picked in Diamond and below
>that team loses

Is there a hero/champ like this in Doto/League? He is obnoxious, but just never really seems to win. Unlike Tracer, Samuro, even Nova.
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>>167058973
Tassadar needs some number adjustments.
He's definitely no solo support.
But all in all with D talents, he's a lot more fun to play for me.
Especially in this stealth shitter QM meta.
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You have 30 seconds to explain why Murky is bad.
protip: you can't
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>>167062857
He's good, but he's unable to survive with the current meta's damage.
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there's no one in the /vg/ channel on eu.
Is it the same 25 shitposters circlejerking and making these 800 reply threads?
ded gaem?
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>>167061196
Wanted to play QM with Alarak for fun, ran into a 5 stack.
Valeera
Zeratul
Medivh
Malfurion
Diablo

Fuck them, seriously. Shittiest game I ever played in QM. They weren't even good, the valeera and zeratul were fucking pathetic, but that ass faggot Medivh kept covering them by spamming protection after they blew their load too early.
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>>167063075
This game isn't very popular among europeans. The EU /vg/ is mostly ~10 people who sometimes play quickmemes and unranked together.
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>>167063165
Yep. He exist purely to completely ruin QM, so pussy ass bitches can run him in 4-5 stacks.
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>People now crying unironically about Medivh
I'm on the fence between surprised and not surprised.
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>QM
>enemy team is Valeera, Samuro, Dehaka, Li Ming and Valla
>playing as Li Ming
>mfw

Current QM meta is stealth no? Fucking easy to shit on people that way i guess.
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>>167064131
Medivh has always been a piece of shit for one reason or another, and he's been out for a while, so it makes sense he isn't even talked about much in the slightest.

Don't be surprised, because shit is logical.
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>>167064719
Quick Match was always full of stealth, though. Teammates can't ban your Nova/Zera away from you there. :3
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>>167064131
always felt like he was busted when i started playing this game. he's my favorite second support
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Placements are straight up cancer

>140k hero/seige damage on KT

team not grouping/ lose. nice game lolbabys
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>>167064789
It's a lot more rampant now, the stealth shitters rejoice in having another stealthy to go fuck shit up with.
It very often happens that any team has two of Zera/Nova/Valeera/Samuro in any combination.

Fucking nice to play Tass right now, even if his numbers are subpar.
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>>167058878
>can't burst

what fucking game are you playing m8?
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Holy shit etc is a fucking joke. Before hitting anyone he should scream "tickle fight!" because that is all the damage he manages to do
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>>167065689
Face it, she's shit. She needs a lot more damage to function properly. I paid 20 bucks for this shit and I get this? Fuck off, kid.
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>>167066403
Shitter detected, stop playing le meme ambush build if u want to shit out actual damage.
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>>167066771
>implying I don't know how to play her
Go apply yourself, I know the hero in and out.
She's shit and needs buffs badly.
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Holy shit Auriel is fun as fuck to play.
I regret not getting her during the genji event fuck.
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>>167067267
Auriel is brutal if you have ONE not retarded team member and has decent damage to boot.
Shame about those ults. Wish you could pick Fly at level 10 instead.
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>>167067303
Yeah, yeah. But does she have lewds though?
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>>167051983
OF COURSE YA NEED ME
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>>167068816
Sure, just watch any bondage porn and pretend she's the ropes.
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>>167067125
if you can't do 4000 damage in one second with valeera, you're shit.

Also
>Paying real money for heroes.
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>>167069010
fucking kek
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Seems worth it desu
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>>167069404
Sorry, but I'm playing in the big league where you can't just walk up to backline. You need 7k+ damage to fuck their tank up instantly, or you're useless.
Fuck you for making me spell this out, fucking scrubs.
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>>167069828
:thinking:
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>>167069828
pls name anyone 1 hero that can do 7k damage instantly, kthxbye
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How come so many people buy every gold-purchasable mount when they don't use them after a week or two of initially buying them? I know quite a few people that have all said mounts and don't use them most of the time--especially if there's a newer mount.
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>>167050265
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>>167070012
the only mount I ever used is the Hearthstone mount
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>>167066378

He's not an assassin, he's a warrior with a lot of CC and shit. Can't have the best of both worlds.
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>>167050265
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Jesus christ, DEAD THREAD
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Assuming Stukov really is next, what if he was Multiclass? Could see him working as Support/Specialist.
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>>167071551
Multiclass is a meme that needs to erased, not expanded on
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>>167071551
>Stukov
>Multiclass
No.
>Stukov
>Support
No.
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>>167071551
Specialist.
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>>167050265
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AZMO'S LASER IS FUCKING OVERPOWERED. AM I THE ONLY ONE REALIZES THIS?
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>>167061549
don't know but i also don't think it's possible both other games would have devs this shitty that just say "he's okay for competitive lol" and walk away.

>>167064131
you know a character is bad when people that don't play them ask for help.
but dude gm medivh and did you see those "pros" take chogall though xD

>>167070012
don't think many care all that much about more than a handful of characters. so any of those who bought a bunch with real money early on will end up with a bit of spare gold. it's just collecting or the mounts having limited fit.
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Blizz here. Next hero is warcraft.
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>>167071985
The entire franchise? Amazing.
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>>167072018
*tips fedora*
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>>167071879
Probably the most bait-like post in this thread thus far. Relish in that, anon.
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>>167071985
keep that warcraft coming. still should be over 500g/day since november even though i haven't had any "play 8 games" in a few weeks.
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>>167072103
In all seriousness, what do you think the personification of the entire franchise would play like?
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>>167072585
like a warcraft assasin
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Fucking hell QM is a mess.
It's always a Samuro, Valeera and/or Nova/Zeratul.
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>>167072692
Sounds like silver and I'm not even memeing.
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>>167072692

QM is the place people go to play the guy they like, and usually its the heroes that aren't viable in ranked. Happens to be stealth heroes and shit heroes like Murky.
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>>167072730
>QM
>silver

I don't even play ranked.
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>>167072585
it would start off strong and then get better but decline sharply towards the late game
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>log into HotS
>Diablo II LOD theme appears

>>167053709
Exactly what happened to me.

>Medivh in 5 man queue
Retarded as fuck. It's super unfun.
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any source for
>Highly Likely Stukov is the next hero ?

please god let it be true
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>>167073720
did you look at the fucking picture
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>>167073720
It's a redditor's fantasy.
In reality the next hero has nothing to do with SC and we're gonna get to drink starcuck tears at the end.
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>>167073801
I see something zergy all right. What makes it point toward best spacerussian?
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>>167073720

https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/824678534845124608?s=09
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>>167073961
>Infested marine eggs by hydras
hm, cant say I agree, but I can dream I suppose!
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>>167074103

Leakchan also leaked Stukov as in development back in April. It's all but certain but let's wait and see.
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>>167074103

Its either a random ass literal who infestor unit, or Stukov who could make infested terrans in SC2 campaign and has been leaked as being in the game files via voice lines and via leaker.

I wonder which one it could be.
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>>167072469
Strange, In the last 7 days I've gotten 3x800g quest, 1x600g quest and 3x300g Role Quest. Rollin in a dosh.
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>reddit still thinks the growl at the end of Zuljin spotlight is a teaser for a new hero

Jesus how stupid
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>tfw demotion game plat 5
>really want mount
>no way im making it to master in a month
>afraid if i queue up i will be cursed and go back to gold and not get mount

Welp looks like its qm for me
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>tfw hunting Valeeras as Zeratul
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>Blizzard releases a hero that isn't broken OP, but takes experience and skill to get good at
>"WHAAAAA ABLOO ABLAA BLIZZARD FUCK YOU MUH SHITTY HS WAIFU CAN'T 1 SHOT OTHER HEROES YOUR GAME IS STUPID ABLOOOO :("
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>>167049447
Why is Lily the cutest, smartest, sexiest and best character in the entire game?
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>>167077784
Oh shut the fuck up you cancerous tumor on this game. I AM supporting this game and I deserve a better hero for this.
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>>167077869
No :) git gud instead of relying on shopping broken heroes
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what if blizzard announces 2 heroes?
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So whats the Ranked meta?
I figure if i want a decent experience in this game I better start buying non-meme heroes like Valeera.
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Is Valeera going to be 10k today?
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>>167070481
>black guy who is allegedly important but never does anything

Tyrael?
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>Medivhs in QM
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Decided to play Tass a bit in AI before I go on Qm so I have SOME understanding of his rework. Menu popped up with "You were dropped!" Without even reconnecting or an option to do so. Have they just given up on their shitty catch up process?
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>>167050265
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>>167078879
Illidan?
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>>167078879
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>>167079347
yup
>>167079543
kek
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>>167078265
was raynor but i do play tyrael sometimes.
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Day 2 of trying to prove to myself and my teams that Alarak isn't a low tier at best hero.

So far I'm not building much of a case that says he isn't.

also
>17 talents that reduce Sadism
>1 (one) talent at level 13 that increases it
>it relies on your teammates dying (preferably a bunch of them) and you living.
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>>167069569
yeah I got that pack for like 89 cents or something lol
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>Auriel is pronounced Ah-riel instead of Oh-riel

Why is this allowed.
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stukov, karax, cain, imperius, malthael, varimathras and garithos


garithos abilities

chain. deals low dmg, slows the enemy. can yank the chain to pull target, but at cost of adding more cooldown time.
revenge from wow.
imprison target enemy. like ice block.
empower target ally for a duration. they must deal a certain amount of dmg before the effect expires or they receive dmg.
z is activatable like sgt hammer. passive has more speed because fights on horse

heroics
cavalry charge. better march of murlocs. increases ur movespeed, allowing to pass through enemy and deal damage. lvl 20 upgrade mounts all nearby allies and allows mounted combat for the duration
second heroic gives him passive damage and turns him into an auradin with 3 more abilities added to the 1 2 3 key slots
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>>167080041
Axoltol has never described what abilities do, this man is a fraud
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>first win of the day bonus
>15 gold
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>>167080013
>americucks in charge of pronouncing anything ever
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>>167080654
Nobody in America would pronounce it oh-riel.
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>>167080041
>Garithos
>Not having 'Great Purge' as a heroic

at least you tried
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>>167077850
Pedo
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>>167080710
that was his point
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Has /hotsg/ ever been wrong about their speculation of who the next hero will be?
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>>167082201
Terokk never ever
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>>167054847
One time, the one bot on our team got mvp cause we kept pinging it. We all upvoted it of course.
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>>167082349
That's actually a cool idea. Shame though that you're right.
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>>167082349
Haha, have an upvote!
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>>167082349
Terokk? You mean that bird guy from alternate Draenor? Why would anyone want him?
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>>167082793
To piss off Diablocucks with another literal who Warcraft character.
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>>167082793
Terokk is an ancient hotsg meme.
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>>167082793
>arakkoa are based
>BTFOs the waifu memers who want Yrel by cucking them out of the one slot anyone could expect Blizzard to toss to a character from WoD
>potential for cool mechanics like swapping roles on death or as a trait
>fuck Dehaka
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>>167082793
>alternate Draenor
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>40 cocksucking globes
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>win 3 games in a row
>get these teams next game
Here comes the forced 50
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What's the latest complain you have about this game?

For me it's: I uninstalled it a month ago, but should have done it sooner
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>>167084092
Not enough shortstacks. But seriously I would like people other than Warcraft in the game. I already have Kinky bug and meme slug so give the others a chance.
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>>167084216
>some faggot posts a bait to set hismself up for an anticlimatic joke
>retards still as if the bait had that intention
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>>167084092
No Diableah skin.
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>>167084092
no Warcraft demons while also not having all the Great Evils from Diablo
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>>167084092
Shit matchmaking
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About to do 3 assassin games quest. What's a good non meme build for Valeera?
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>>167085652
Vigor in maps where you can farm globes fast/Subtley
Reduce ss cost
Mutilate
Smoke bomb
Extra stealth movement speed/blind
Thistle tea
Nightslayer
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>>167050265
>molten core
>specifically does not work on core
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>>167085909
>Mutilate
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>>167086321
>implying there is anything better to burst in that tier

lmao
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>>167086352
m-muh burst1!!!!11!!1

t. bronze
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>>167086627
m-muh not an argument

t. wood
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>>167086769
Okay bronzie let me explain it to you.

The loss of mobility and effectiveness of your only escape is not worth 'le epick ganks'.
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>>167086862
Yes it is. I'm sorry you're so bad at this game anon.
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>>167085909
First game went very well. 10-21-3. Thank you.
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>>167077706
you get the mount for the highest rank you attained in the season, not the one you end it with.
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>Structures affected by Black Arrows take 25% less damage from monsters

Did I make Sylv not broken in some maps?
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>>167088779
No, you just made it stupid
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>>167086627
>>167086769
>two unranked players beating a dead horse named t.
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>>167088779
What the fuck
What kind of fucking "curse" it that?
>MUAHAHAHAHA YOU CANNOT MOVE OR ATTACK!
>b-but you're way stronger too...
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>>167088779
No. Towers and Forts should just attack slower.
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>>167088962
Kinda sounds like one of those "curses" those lil devils in old Zelda games would put on you.

>Hah! Now that I've cursed you, it'll take you twice as much to fill your magic bar!
>... because it's twice as big now.
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>win 5 games in a row
>lose 5 games in a row
That forced 50, had some level 7 guy in my team last game
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/hotsg/ what skin do you want in the game?
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>>167090135
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>>167090135
Human Stukov.
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>>167090135
>Andariel Kerrigan
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>>167090135
Diableah.
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>>167090135
Human abathur
Infested Archangel Auriel
Loli Jims Raynor
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>>167090135
Jaws Butcher
His E sound effect gets replaced with the soundtrack from the movie

Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hide Greymane
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>win 10 games in a row
>forced 50 kicks in
>get teamed with memepicks like gazlow, kharazim and greymane
>enemy team gets 5 out of the top10 championship picks
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>buy thrall
>feel fucking weird playing him
I'm not sure what is it, but holy shit, he might be the weirdest hero I ever played, even if he's easy to understand and all.
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>>167091480
>human abathur
What in the fuck? Zero sense lore-wise. Zero sense gameplay-wise.
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>>167090135
Dark Coven Gul'dan
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>>167092012
>we got meme spider instead of this

feels bad
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>>167088779
No, you made it shit. Blizz should hire you, you seem to have a knack for balance.
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>>167092268
>one of the only warlock sets that has absolutely nothing to do with warlocks
>that's what they chose
I was speechless. The warlock class has no shortage of 10/10 god-tier sets and they chose that garbage.
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>>167092450
Not to mention is the LEAST popular lock set.
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>>167092450
I was half expecting them to throw in the shitty Slayer or Netherblade sets from WoW for Valeera.
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>>167092450
I thought it was because Tomb of the Spider Queen.
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>>167090135
Season 8 warrior set for Varian
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>>167083981
>censoring player names
literal autism
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>>167092784
s7 is superior though
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>>167073720
>Daily reminder Duran did nothing wrong.
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>>167083981
>not censoring the eyes on the player portraits
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>>167089513
Them paper mario black chests.

Made me kek everytime.
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>>167092645
Her master skin is a wow set.
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>>167093091
Yes, and?
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>>167090135
Dark Templar Samuro
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>>167092993
or the raven
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>>167093147
And I can't read faggot.
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>Kerrigan on our team dies 16 times.
>Misses every combo.
>Has the legendary skin.
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I better stop playing before matchmaking screws me over, right?
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>>167094594
Do the chu bro
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>>167090135
>>167090135
Ultralisk Anubarak
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>>167090135
Nerubian Zagara
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Why do beaners suck so bad at this game?
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>>167095276
jajaja
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Junkrat and Mei could be pretty fun addition to HOTS.
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>>167095680
Junk rat could be cool if his auto attacks were basically Zarya's Q really
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>>167095784
I want them to have true grenade physics.
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>>167095680
Yeah imagine if we had someone who centered on Ice and slowing people. What would that be like?
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>>167095276
Trump needs to build a firewall so they can't play with us.
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>>167095680
Can you fuck off, Nielspeterdejong?
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>>167096085
You have multiple heroes centered around bullets, why cant we have two ice characters?
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>>167090135
Demon stalker Valla
Demon stalker Nova
Marksmanship hunter type with a demon stalker skin
Demon stalker any gun/bow hero

Or if we ever get a female undead hero - a skin that gives her the tcg undead female boobs.
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>>167090135
Gladiator Kharazim
Warlock Rexxar
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>>167094594
whenever i win an absolute stomp in HL I log off for the rest of the day
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>>167090135
Princess Kitana (MKX) Valeera
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>>167094141
Somtimes I really wonder about these people.

>plays one hero/champ 99% of the time
>owns most expensive skin(s)
>name references their hero/champ
>their portrait/icon references their hero/champ
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Is there a guide on how to not suck ass with Abathur? Because I want to not suck ass with him.
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>>167098284
No, not really. It's possible to suck slightly less with a lot of practice, though.

>>167095680
>more overwetch
pls no, not yet unless it's reinhardt
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>>167098361
The next overwatch characters is going to be Genji.

You'll need to play Hearthstone to unlock his Oni skin.
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>>167098361
Reinhard, Junkrat, Symmetra, Roadhog could all come to HOTS pretty easily. Hell even Hanzo could.
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>>167077784
>medivh still in the dumpster after 7 months of "experience and skill"
kys
>>
>diablo and starcucks on suicide watch
http://i.imgur.com/XX2Za9O.jpg
research courtesy of plebbit
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>>167097935
>have to switch my portrait waifu if i'm tentatively planning on playing them soon so i don't embarrass myself

sweatingintensifies.jpg
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>>167098284
>pay attention to minimap
>remember to soak two lanes if both teams are doing nothing (body soak one lane, symbiote soak another)
>for the love of god don't take monstrosity
>if your team is light on tanks, evolve the tank
>light on damage, evolve damage
>alternatively just evolve whoever has the most devastating move-set for the situation
>pay attention to the fucking minimap
>if there are no invis heroes you should be body soaking constantly
>never sit in the same place too long
>know which maps are good for pushing build and which are good for team fight
>learn to ignore the people who blame you for every loss
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>>167091825
Is it because he's a big orc in massive armor with a huge hammer, that's supposed to be a farseer/shaman, prancing around like a ninja, scoring kills?
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>>167099447
>everybody played wow
>nobody played mobas prior

Yep, checks out.

>Bots games more popular than team league

kek
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>>167099548
Yeah, that might be why. Also how he swings his hammer like he's some sort of fucking Conan character with a huge sword.
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>>167099290
you're joking? A medivh in the right hands is an absolute monster
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>>167099521
>for the love of god don't take monstrosity
Ever?
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When you want to practice a hero in Quick Match and this happens
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>>167050265
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>>167099786
There are rare situations in which monstrosity is ok, but if you're asking for advice on this Bhutanese fingerpuppet forum, you probably won't be able to recognize them.
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>>167099631
so is every other character. fuck off.
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>>167099790
What's the problem?
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>>167099618
they really fucked him up.
he should have been a specialist.
>chain lightning to clear minion waves
>feral spirit summons wolves that help push, rather than firing a wolf like a projectile(????)
>earthquake destroys buildings and slows enemies
He was practically screaming specialist. Blizzard are so fucking stupid some times, it's unbelievable.
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>>167099974
Unless Valeera and Tracer are clean Illidan'll just eat the blue team.

>>167099447
>Most anticipated hero: Li-Ming
Damn, that's old.
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>>167099969
Well yes but Medivh even more so, he is designed that way.
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Still waiting for the day that HotS gets too meta and starts making skins for characters of heroes that are already in the game.
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>>167099974
Tassadar just ruins quickmatch because he isn't a true support character. We had Tass+tracer but Rehgar is a great solo support and we could not keep up in team fights

Enemy team was great at clearing camps on blackhearts and was able to zone us too. Their Illidan was able to engage us really easily.
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I'm testing Artanis out for the first time, what the best talents for him?
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>>167100408
sure it's just the small sample size that has him so bad in masters.
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>>167100202
I shouldn't have bought him honestly. I mean, I can probably get good with him quickly but he feels so odd to play compared to other heroes.
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>>167099447
>Garden of Terror as least favorite
I guess there's still hope in humanity.
>>
Now that she's been out for a week how do you feel about Valeera?
Personally I'm having a blast on her and I currently have a 78% winrate
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place yer bets
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>>167101365
One of my favorite heroes so far. Grinding 10 for that sweet master skin.
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>>167073663
>being a plebbitor
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>>167098361
Indeed
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>>167101382
>Tassadar
All on red
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What's today's skin rotation?
When will I be able to get Emberlord Zuljin?
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>>167075989
>leaked as being in the game files via voice lines
Source?
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>>167101583
when you cough up $9.99
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>>167099447
>literally year old info
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>>167101382
I suspect red will somehow blow it late game
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>all this doubt about stukov
legacy of the void announced, artanis main character
boom released in hots
alarak gets released in sc2 co op
boom released in hots
stukov gets released in sc2 co op
???

not a hard prediction guys
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>>167101656
I'm sure the people who voted on their favorite franchise changed their mind for an year.
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why does alarak look like a cute bunny?
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>>167101820
Can you let me at least pretend we won't be getting a shitty starcuck.
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>>167101972
other than kel thuzad who is > the last 15 heroes, who would you prefer?
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>>167101945
Address your Highlord with due affection.
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>>167102105
:3c
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>>167101556
>>167101695
force wall, meet overextending bronze shitters
>proper match history when
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>>167102153
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For the purposes of Quick play matchmaking, what the hell does Varian count as?
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>>167101945
>bunny
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I've still never seen an Alarak in the wild. Where are all the Alarak players? I'm guessing non-existent. And where are the Chen players? Haven't seen Chen in forever either. He's great.

>>167102445
Not a tank
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>>167070154
Unless your name is Diablo.
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>>167102706
>Where are all the Alarak players?
Alarak doesn't bring anything good to the table. Squishy, no defensive ability, shitty auto attack that doesn't synergize with anything.
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>>167102706
>Alarak
Difficult, although the same could be said for Zeratul, Valeera and Li-Ming yet they see tons of play.

>Chen
Fat panda. Still really good into squishies, I imagine, but he was never really popular. Play rate went up when he popped up as S tier on all those tier lists bless their souls for those abominations of lists.
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>>167090264
JUST
WILD
BEAT
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>>167101840
I'm sure the exact same people are still playing the game
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>>167102105
They don't have to scrape the barrel with sc which doesn't even translate well into the game when there are dozens of wc units and flagship lore charters waiting to be put in the game.
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>>167103063
The same could not be said for Zeratul or Li-Ming. I maintain that anything with a Blink is some pussy shit that will always be much easier to play. Zeratul especially considering how much more slipper his talents can make him.
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>finish a brawl
>it's taking forever to load in the result screen after already leaving the game
>hit the leave button and go queue for the next brawl
>notice I didn't get rewarded for the brawl I just played
Nice system Blizzard
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>>167104256
honestly the whole interface feels shitty and third rate

fucking horrible hatch history, replays take forever to fast forward, weird buggy bullshit like you just mentioned
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When?
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>>167104713
hopefully never
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>>167104713
I hope never
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>>167104256
it probably counted it but just didnt display immediately
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>>167102706
>Not a tank
Then is there a reason why I keep getting put in teams with no tanks? I always thought the matchmaking at least tried to put one.
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>game starts
>illidan says he has to go feed baby 3 minutes in
>stood afk until he got kicked
Bet it was his wife's son too
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>>167104256
This happened to me last week, but it took a bit for the system to catch up. I finally got credit.
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>>167105148
I closed and opened the client again after it since it once again bugged out and wouldn't let me alt tab out, it had not rewarded me for that game
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Level 20 hero portraits when?
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>>167105278
>game starts
>illidan dives 1v5
>Dies pings Azmodan
>Says "azmo??????"
>At level 10 he takes The Feed
>Ends game with 19 deaths
Fuck Illidan players
>>
Guys, artanis talents quick, brawl just started
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>>167105278
>Early alpha
>Haunted mines
>First objective phase comes up
>Nazeebo on my team goes down, gets a few skulls then says
>"time for school! bye guys!"

I could not fucking believe it, but I also couldn't stop laughing.
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>>167104713
This just reminds me that there hasn't been a F-Zero game in 13 years
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>>167106421
Can't wait for the Nintendo Switchâ„¢ exclusive reboot.
That is, if they ever stop making new fucking mario and zeldas
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>>167106421
Don't worry anon, you can always count on third-party devs to do what Nintendo can't.
https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Wii-U-download-software/FAST-Racing-NEO-1027212.html
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>>167106573
I hope they have some weakness in their system that lets people make a switch emulator early. Prices for it in Europe are pants on head retarded
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>It's a brawl episode where you have nothing but shitty picks and the enemy team has all really good ones
I'm glad you don't have to actually win these fucking things.
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>top xp
>top kills
>stop siege damage
>most objective contribution
>surely i'll get mv-
>MVP VALEERA MOST DAMGES!!!!
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>>167108505
>caring about memevp

lmao
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>>167108505
>retard teammate randomly suicides in
>four of them, two of us
>asked why the fuck I didn't follow her in
>calls me shit for caring about kda and mvp
>haven't said a thing

people

idk
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>>167108505
I don't get why it puts priority on K/D/A over everything else. Such a shitty MVP system.
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>play thrall
>go with diablo in a team
>EQ + Apoc
>mfw
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>>167101820
Blizz made a huge deal over the Diablo anniversary and we didn't get any Diablo heroes.
The only hints we even have right now towards Stukov is that the next hero isn't Warcraft, which kinda gives it a 50/50 between whether we get a Diablo or SC because Blizz seems to be slow in implementing OW characters, and the infested egg in that one pic which, as most people have pointed out, isn't even the right kind of infested egg that Stukov uses in SC.
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>>167101820
>tfw no Rory Swann, Karax, Vorazun, Hellbats, Izsha, Adjutant, Overmind, Mengsk, Fenix
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>>167110262
>Zarya goes the Pull
>They have Slyvannas go Silence
>They have a Li-Ming
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>Start up game
>Lunara immediately touchy
>Complains about everything Valla does, makes a misplay or two during early game
>The rest of the match they are in a keyboard warrior battle
>"lol youre ignored so peaceful haha"
>"just like every trash lunara player wow learn to play"
>Meanwhile Malf, Valeera,and Myself doing all the work
>Lunara goes through a "lol just let them end" tantrum and lanes for like 4 minutes
>We continue to win fights without her
>Keep telling them to calm down and to focus on their own play
>have a clutch core race with master Aba player at the end, beating him and winning

Sometimes I tell myself being positive doesn't help, but then I have games were it very obviously does and I see the truth.
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>>167110262

>our glorious draft leader bans shit troll picks
>Thrall, Diablo, Rehgar, Ragnaros, Tychus on enemy team
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>>167108996
probably because Blizzard literally doesn't know what makes people good at the game
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Post the best skin/color combo for your favorite hero
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>>167112367
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>>167112367
Default for everyone except Zul'jin.
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>it's an episode of jaina using her frost ring 2 times in 20 minutes game because she gets two shot by nova
>she just goes xD
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>Archdruid
>Has a deer head as a hat in his master skin

Blizzdrones will defend this
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>>167111672
Just tell them to just mute each other and block each other after the game. Works for me
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>>167113027

They claimed to have muted each other but yet still continued to cry about every little thing and respond to each other. I felt like a mother between two bitter siblings. Couple of babies.
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>>167112367
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I think to myself "Xul should get a buff, it's sad how out of favor he hell."

But then I think "... Well what the fuck could you even buff on him?"
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>>167114371
make an active for his passive that summons skelebros?
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>>167114371
Make all his summons permanent that follow him around like in diablo 2
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>>167113006
>druid looks like a typical fantasy druid
What's the problem?
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>>167114671
Would that even be a buff? One of the things that makes him strong right now is that he clears a lane incredibly fast and his skeletons push the lane allowing him to leave.

>>167114371
Give him more damage. They Samuro'd the fuck out of Xul by cutting off his legs and forcing him into one play style.
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>>167115019

Like clockwork B)
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>>167113006
Isn't it supposed to represent his connection to Malorne or something? I only causally follow the lore of WoW after it became an MMO.
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>>167114671
This.
He's one of the main minionmancer's of HotS and necromancers are known to have swarms of dangerous undead, but Xul's little skelebros only pathetically push lanes and never help in any combat. Fucking breaks the fantasy of playing a necromancer.
This game needs more summoner-type heroes where the summons actually help you fight in combat as opposed to just lane swarming. The only ones I can think of are Az(but only his ult minions really help you in combat at all) and Zagara.
>>
Dammit I just love Zul'Jin's voice lines
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>>167115331
arthas
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>>167115526
In dis game, firs' joo get da XP, den when joo get da XP, joo get da powa, when joo get da powa....


... Wait, what we even talkin' 'bout?
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>Team was teamfighting
>I'm dehaka
>Grab a nuke
>push down a lane nuke their core and take it down from 55%
Felt good
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>>167115526
MAKE WAY FOH DA BAD GUY
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>>167115526
>All those characters are getting sued lines
I love this game sometimes and Rexxar's Hearthstone lines
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>>167114371

delete him and replace him with an actual necromancer
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>>167114371
>play almost any splitpushing hero
>can still be relevant in teamfights
>play xul
>go for skeleton build
>nothing you can do aside going full melee and get murdered a second after
He blows dick. That's why every high ELO HotS player doesn't like his kit, because all he does is AFK splitpush and force the team go 4v5.
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>>167118020
>go for skeleton build
There's you're problem mate.

Go for a curse/debuff build.
His base kit is already good enough for pushingThough the timer for their life shoulder be their HP bar, that's fucking stupid
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>>167114371
>Make Whenever an enemy hero dies near xul summon a frost mage a passive he has when gets that talent
>Posion Nova's come back to him
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>>167090135
Infested Anub'arak
Lord of Pain Anub'arak
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>>167118956
Zergarak in general honestly
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I just played against a guy who has 6k games and was Plat 1.

So he has 6k games played... and was placed at or below Plat 1. What the fuck? How the fuck is that possible?
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>>167119280

MMR is fucked.
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>>167118956
>>167119023
>Crypt Lord Zagara
>Her Hydralisks are small nerubians
>Her Banelings are fat charging beetles that explode into a bunch of needles all over the place
>Infested Drop spawns more little beetles
>Tumors are small eggs
Nydus is one gigantic fucking nerubian spider head, she climbs into it's mouth
>Maw is a massive coccoon that forms beneath the targeted area that becomes torn and falls in shambles as it ends
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>>167119280
That's nothing, I've seen silver players with 4k+ games. I just think people suck desu.
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>>167119280
There are people with thousands of games in Bronze, Silver and Gold or their equivalents in every game.
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>tfw you get the shitty abathur with the skin
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>>167120597
>tfw you gank him as an aba with no skin by burrowing and spawning 3 locust onto him while slapping his shit in
>everyone calls you top worm
zeratul ganks you when you try to hearth out after dancing infront of their fort
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>Dehaka's dance
Is there a Drake meme with him?
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>>167120597
>tfw you can gank memethur with valeera after 10

Faggot was whispering "U MAD TRYHARD?" After the game.
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>>167121315
yes
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>>167121390
Do you have it
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>>167121443
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>>167121443
no
i've seen it being posted a few times before though
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>>167119280

the average hots player has been consuming fluoride and xenoestrogens their entire life.

I'm playing on a smurf (main got silenced due to butthurt blizzbabies), i'm in plat 5 and the kids here clearly have holes in their brains. If I got stuck on an island with them and had to work together to survive, i would kill them and eat them.
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>abathur refuses to go cap braxis location
>jaina goes to do it
>abathur spam pings "retreat!" on her
>she caps it just fine and leaves
>instantly ignored after the game
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>>167121443
nvm see >>167121521
someone also drew a picture of it i think
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>>167118956
Oh, and maybe a Cydaea Zagara to go with Duriel Anub. She plants down little cocoons that spread webbing, her nydus network could be a web that lifts her into the air to transport her, stuff like that.
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>>167121315
>>167121443
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>>167121885
there it is
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>>167121943
what are those percentages beneath each talent's icon?
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>>167121943
>Fatal Finesse
Gross.
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>>167121315
>>167121521
>>167121885
>mfw it's real
fucking amazing
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>>167121943
Yeah, no.
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>>167122135

The gif is official from his hero spotlight video.

Living the meme
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>>167097125
Mei:
Right click is Jaina's Q
Conal freeze is Cone of Cold
Circle freeze is ring of frost.
Area denial is Blizzard (kind of)

There's not enough difference to make a new character.
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>>167122432
>it actually is
oh my fucking god
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>>167121943
That build is too good for /hotsg/, you need to post something garbage like this mate
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>>167123267

>not double poison thistle tea

do you even feed
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Man, I had the best game today. Though this lovely little popup didn't exactly make me feel great.
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>try out dehaka a second time
>6 kills 0 deaths 20 assists
>6 votes and MVP screen
this hero is insane
you just can't die at all what the HECK
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>>167125141

what de hecka!
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>>167125219
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>>167125304
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>>167050265
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>someone picks gaz
>someone picks naz

every game. when will these fuckers learn these heroes are useless?
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>>167090135
Male skins for Crusader and Siege Tank
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>>167125141
it's wierd how people have forgotten dahaka is still busted. guess artanis being the hot shit made people forgot.
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>>167050265
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>samuro still incredibly popular and has winrate despite constant nerfs

has blizzard been bested by the blademaster?
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>>167127731
No it's because people are retarded.

>Attack a tower with with my face against the gate even though I haven't seen anyone on the mini map.
>Samuro flanked me and killed me. Fucking Samuro is so imbalanced.
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>>167090135
She looks like one of those Killakill characters.
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Meeedivh!
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>>167127930
Eh, still seems like he could be toned down a bit.

>Li-Ming
>Alarak
>Valeera

All rather difficult Heroes with low win rates until Masters. Samuro, on the other hand, has a high win rate at every MMR, even if he stops seeing play after, like, high Diamond, or something.

The fellow is just too forgiving for how difficult he was meant to be.

>also stealth rework when
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Mages were a mistake
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>>167128397
I don't know if Sam was really intended to be that difficult. He has no mana, he can basically smash all his buttons and I don't remember any of his advertising suggesting that he was the hero for skilled players.

Other than the micro on Illusion Master, he's mainly for a bit of fun bronzie mind games.
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Meeediiivh!
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I'm currently kinda new into HotS still, and never touched competitive because I'm level 30 at the moment. Should I follow the tiers from Grubby's website or check out hotslogs' winrates? I play in BR server, unfortunately also.
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>>167128756
Ehh, I'd suggest just picking up the relatively simple Heroes, regardless of their current position in the meta.

>Malfurion
>Thrall
>Li Li
>Raynor
>Johanna

Play them until you've solidified the fundamentals before moving on to follow tier lists, or play finicky Heroes such as, say, Alarak.

>>167128569
Mm, that's just it. He can get away with just hitting all his buttons, unlike the other Heroes I listed.
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>>167128976
Sure, but Alarak has proper sustain, utlity and burst. Ming is ranged and gets shit done. Valeera is melee nova, so she explodes people or sucks. Also, her steath is good unlike Sam's which is mostly a run away button.

I don't know. Sam just seems like Illidan, but if he's actually seeing play in Masters, maybe I'm wrong.
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>>167062857
i love murkey but i am not sure how to make him useful when people attak my fish. its a 15 sec cooldown. if they kill it and ive pushed too far i am dead.
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>>167128686
VERSUS

Valeerraaaaaaa
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I am unironically gonna buy this, should I?
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>>167128976
In QM, I'm having a blast with The Butcher and Zagara, but the fact that both are not optimal at all according to Grubby is a huge fucking shame. Should I just ditch them and try to play heroes like Thrall, Malfurion, Sylvanas?
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Somebody red pill me on Lost Vikings
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>>167129873
is a memehero
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>>167129873
You will never be good enough, sorry.
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>>167129854
Where's all your gold, man? The reason it is so cheap is because those heroes are like 0 gold.
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>>167129385
>Watch your back!
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>>167129854

It's a good deal to get started. Unfortunately some of the heroes in that bundle aren't very good, but you can learn the game with them.
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Started playing in May 2015 haven't played since November 2015, tell me what's good right now.
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>>167129854
seeing as a 30 day stim pack is $10 anyway I don't see a problem with this. I bought the same bundle but had more of the heroes and it was essentially a 30 day stim pack for $3~
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>>167130147

Read OP please, info there will help you.
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>>167130224
>Grubby said Valeera is Tier 3
>Grubby thinks Cho'God is Tier 3
wew
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>>167130413
Both of those are correct.
According to Grubby's (SOLO QUEUE HL) tier list those are heroes that are very niche.
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>>167126668
ikr...he wasn't nerfed at all
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>>167127973
Gamagoori Zarya skin when?
She'll get bigger every time she gets an orb.
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>>167130413
>cho meme is good

lmao
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>>167130413

List applies to high level SOLO play, not platinum HL :)

Also, T4 heroes are VIABLE but not OPTIMAL which is very true. All of those heroes are playable, but good luck finding times for them to be considered a better pick than something else, which is kind of the point of his distinction of "not optimal" instead of "shit kys tier".
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>>167130413

Cho'gall is literally the least picked, worst winrate hero in the game. He's good in QM where the enemy team can't counter him six ways to Sunday which is doable by like half the cast of this game.
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>>167130463
>>167130640
>>167130647
>Pick Cho'gall in solo queue
>Opponents have no giant killer
>Enjoy a free win
He's literally the best hero in the game
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>>167130752

>draft mode
>enemy not countering easiest to counter hero in the game with GK or hard CC

t. dirt league
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>>167129854
Go for it.

>>167129860
>Zagara
Good learner Hero, tad weak currently. Numbers wise.
>The Butcher
Walking stun until you get your 125 meat. Easily countered via Brightwing, Johanna, Xul, etc.

They're both fine, at least for now. Just play whatever you like and focus on the basic stuff.

>movement
>minimap awareness
>positioning and spacing
>common talent builds

>tier list says not optimal

It isn't wrong, but it doesn't really matter for a while. Like, somewhere in Diamond these things matter, but until then nobody really plays well enough.

>>167130752
No, no, no. Just don't do it.
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>>167130752
>>167130463
You can pick Cho'Gall in solo queue?
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>>167130752

>solo queue
>playing cho'gall with a random
>playing cho'gall in a draft mode
>playing cho'gall outside of tri queue QM with Auriel
>playing cho'gall ever
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>>167130930
>It isn't wrong, but it doesn't really matter for a while. Like, somewhere in Diamond these things matter, but until then nobody really plays well enough.
Yeah, in most of my games, I try to focus a lot on stacking up as Butcher, and I often get 125 stacks in less than 10 or 15 minutes which is fairly good actually. I end up winning most of these games that way.
Zagara is really fucking fun, but she gets shit on by every assassin diver like Illidan, Valeera, etc. Sad, but her weakness can kinda turn me off sometimes.

Of course, I'm still learning and I'm playing plenty of Thrall, Sylvanas and Dehaka. I'm having a blast with them, but I also want to play some heroes that I really love.
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>>167131037
Yeah, of course. It's just up to the other solo queue player in your draft to agree to it, which they shouldn't.

He was in rough enough shape with Tychus becoming meta and Leoric getting buffs but lack of ability to duo-queue ranked was just the nail in the coffin. Perhaps if and when we get an optional voice chat.

>>167131120
this desu
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>Enjoy playing Rehgar
>He gets reworked
>Hate playing Rehgar

>Hate playing Nova
>She gets reworked
>Hate playing Nova even more

>Enjoy playing Zagara
>She gets reworked
>Hate playing Zagara

>Enjoy playing Tassadar
>He gets reworked
>Hate playing Tassadar

When will the rework meme end?
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>That reddit thread about most boring heroes to play in each role
>Gazlowe and Xul are 2nd and 3rd most boring in Specialists

Jesus, what a bunch of lame ass shitters. Xul I guess I could see, but Gazlowe? Holy fuck. I can't believe Blizzard listens to the feedback these invalids give.
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>>167131153
Right after Uther and Leoric
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>>167131153

Rehgar's rework was good

Tassadar's rework is so good he's first banned every tourney game since the rework.

Other two are bad less to do with the reworks but because those heroes are fossils and new heroes do what they do but better.
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>>167131246
They probably only play Siege Gaz.

Honestly, the best feeling in the world is having everything all set up before a team fight starts. That's what I feel Gaz is all about.
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>>167131270
>Tassadar's rework is so good he's first banned every tourney game since the rework.
That was pre-rework.
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>cho'gall so bad he doesn't even rank on hotslogs anymore

l o l
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>>167131376

Post rework is live in tourneys I think, he was banned like a fucker in EU tourneys yesterday.

New heroes are two weeks, reworks and other changes are a week stagger,
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>Tazdingo man pick Guillotine
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>>167131270
>Tassadar's rework is so good he's first banned every tourney game since the rework.
This isn't true. Reworked Tassadar has a 0% pick/ban rate in tourney.
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>>167131138
Mhm. I've really enjoyed my time playing The Butcher, provided the team is able to survive the early and sometimes early-mid game. Issue is that he's pretty easy to deal with in draft, although he'll absolutely shred through teams who aren't prepared.

I've found the best way to play him to playing safe for meat/ult, then invading enemy mercenary camps, jungling and ganking. Like, go and 1-shot the specialist pushing an off lane because your 1v1 and even 1v2 dueling potential is insane, especially late game.

>Zagara

Good ol' comfy lane bug. She has seen better days, I'll tell you that.

>Q and E for vision
>W on enemy players, mind the mana cost, though
>auto the shit out of them if they stop to hit your W
>always have your D charging, don't sit on max stacks

I'd honestly just recommend another ranged right-clicker, though. Raynor, Valla or Tychus, even. Current incarnation of Ziggy makes me sad.


>>167131246
>Reddit thinks Gaz is boring

Oof. That's rough.
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>>167131618
I don't get why people rag on new Zag so much. I get that most of them probably are comparing her to old Zag, but there are a lot of worse specialists and pushers out there.

The only thing I ever found lacking was mana. Everything else seemed as usual.
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>>167131702

She's just a sitting duck in the world of 6 stealth heroes and heavy rotation meta. She's a free kill most of the time, and pushing power falls off late game.
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>>167131527
>player picks zul'jin
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>>167131702
Oof.

I just can't really think of a reason to be picking her these days is the thing.

Oh, and when is that next hero preview/teaser? I forgot how they generally do it.
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>>167132052
>Desert Queen Zagara was the first skin I bought

Still my favorite skin in the game. What specialists are good right now? I used to only play Zag before her rework and had quite a good win rate with her.
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>>167132462
>good specialists

As versus-all Heroes? Like, none of them.

>Zagara
>Hammer
>Sylvanas
>Nazeebo
>Rexxar, if you can play him

That's all I can really think of. Xul as a counterpick to Illidan, The Butcher and Artanis. Also excellent waveclear. Somebody might be slipping my mind here.

>desert zig-zag

No voice or facial animation, otherwise it'd easily be my favorite skin.
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There is nothing more fun in this game than getting put against a QM stack of 3+ stealth and taking Headhunter as Zul'jin
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>game isn't even 1 minute in and you already know you're going to lose
>3 people have died already on seperate occasions
>objective starts and you're the only one there
guess it's all my fault! I need to get better so I can carry!
>>
I really hope the next hero is from Starcraft, Diablo, or Overwatch. Literally anything but another WoW hero would be acceptable.
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>>167133526
haha non! play HL! that is where the real good people play! and it the system will totally tell you how good you really are!
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>>167133698
1:Nature's Perspective is the best talent on tier 1 by a huge margin

13: Unfair Advantage is better than Giant Killer against most comps outside of like 3 warrior

16: If you can get away with using Invigorating Spores at 16 it's great, but Star Wood Spear is usually safer/better

20: Galloping Gait is better
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>Not getting Splintered Spear
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WHY THE FUCK AM I ALWAYS FIRST PICK. GOD
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>>167133698
Increased radius at 1 is a crutch.

Doesn't stop me from using it.
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>braxis holdout
>last pick
>show falstad
>faggot above me isn't showing anything
>team asks him if he's healing
>silence
>I say I'll heal if he doesn't want to while continuing to show falstad
>more silence
>our turn to pick
>faggot waits until there is 10 seconds left and picks alark
>try to quickly choose a healer and fail
>stuck with falstad and no heals
>entire team blames me for loss even though I played just fine
The faggot that failed to communicate was in the wrong, not me right?
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>>167134737
WELL

AKKSHULLY

wouldn't it help you hit multiple targets especially if one is fat?
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>>167133698
If you always pick the same talents in every match up on Lunara you are playing her wrong.
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>>167135256
he's a douche and it's primarily his fault but you coulda easily avoided it by just thinking ahead a lil bit
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>>167135403
red pill me
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What talent at 20 for Auriel?
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>>167133567
Fuck that Starcuck.
Why should any of your shitty OC donut steel heroes get in before literal legends like Kingslayer Orkus?
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>Hammer with 15 deaths
>Sieges up every single team fight on Spider Queen against a team of Li-Ming, Xul, Valeera, Tracer, and Ragnoras w/ Smash
>Tell him to stop sieging up like a retard when everyone on the team counters Hammer
>"....."
>"Did you just tell a Hammer to NOT siege up?"
>"That's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard"
>This match went on for 40 fucking minutes

aaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>167136156
Well for starter Greater Spell Shield basically makes you invincible against many heroes
Star Wood Spear is great when you really need to outrange you victims usually only good in QM games with no warriors or supports
Let Them Wither is a must if your team has heroes like Kerrigan
Nature's Culling is amazing for killing immortals and buildings especially when combined with either of your heroic abilities
Abolish Magic can win you a game against Murky, Xul,
Galloping Gait is always a good talent in every situation it gets you to objectives faster, it allows you to chase a low HP foe, and flee from a losing fight

tl;dr after level 7 all her talents are good
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>>167136370
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>>167136528
>does the same damage to heroes regardless if she is sieged or not
>BUT I ALWAYS HAVE TO BE IN SIEGE MODE

ree
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Amazon is in the works
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>>167138359
Fucking the whole D2 cast better be in the works, these slimy motherfucker devs with their "oh were gonan add the entire d3 cast before we move on to any other diablo games!!!"
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>>167138405
Next hero will probably be Lucio, then maybe DVa, Malthael, Genji is also being worked on.

Sorry, no Stukov for a while.
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>>167138359
Oh, neat. What might her skill set be?

>>167138474
>no stukov for a while

infestor pls I'd be so happy
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>>167138474
Tell me Trade Prince Gallywix and D2 Druid are at least being considered.
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How do we buff Leoric?
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>>167138359
She's already in the game
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>>167138574
oh, that sounds fun

>>167138713
gallywix did recently get that model update on the ptr

>we chin physics now
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>play unranked
>always last pick + banner
why
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>>167138945
>last pick
Lucky.
>banner
Highest MMR.
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>Valeera will never give you a thighjob
>>
I can't stand the fact that people still fucking play Stitches. I don't care what mode it is, he's fucking useless, just play Artanis. As sad as that sounds.
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Best Rexxar NA also best Valeera NA. WR is for all and HL, respectively.

Take notes, kids.
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Odds: Buy golden meme cock
Evens: Buy something useful like Ragnaros
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>>167049447
Does the bird come with this deal?
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>>167072469
I've found you're way more likely to get the 600g and 800g quests with an empty log. That SC/Diablo quest cheese strategy actually does more harm than good if you wanna maximise gold.
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>>167142673
Seconded.

>clear dailies on 5 accounts twice weekly
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How do I Valeera? I feel like I don't have the energy to get a full combo off and the target just waddles away while I'm sitting there energy starved.
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>>167138359
>>167138474
>>167138574
Reminds me, if you're anyone who is in any sort of position to give feedback to a dev to their face, tell them the next time they make a D2 hero to not make him some fucking OC bullshit. Xul is nothing like D2's Necromancer. We can stretch real fucking thin and say he's just a more advanced Meleemancer, but like I said, that's a bit of a stretch, like, nobody played a Meleemancer back in the day.

Just bugs the shit out of me how little he has in common with the Necro, and they have the balls to say he's straight out of D2.

Also, Classic Xul when?
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>>167142802
If you can't get a full set on them while they're stunned you should consider Jimmy or something.
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>>167142673
This seems likely. These past 6-8 weeks I've gotten far more 600/800g dailies than others. At least 4 of either a week (sometimes 6 a week) and I've cleared my dailies each time.
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>>167090135
leoric janitor NOW
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>>167112367
brunette lunar jaina
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>>167071551
>starcraft 2 power level stukov
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>>167129986
what affects the hero prices ? besides how new they are - talking about the old ones
>>
>me Valeera with a Nova teammate
>open up
>nova just sits there in stealth waiting for a fucking invitation
>every time
the most passive Nova in the universe fuck just snipe them while I have them stunned
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>>167090135
Anything that isn't asian for Chen. He hasn't gotten any skin for over 2 years and all that he has are just different flavours of pandaren clothes.

And if I were to choose something specific, maybe Biker Chen. Headband, ripped jean vest with gang logo on the back, a barrel of oil and a giant wrench for staff.
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>>167144080
'Dunno.

>Johanna from 10,000 to 4,000
>Jaina from 10,000 to 4,000
>Gazlowe from 4,000 to 2,000
>Azmodan from 10,000 to 2,000 (kek)

No discounts recently unless I'm mistaken, but they also feel to have buffed gold gains.

>600 or 800 almost every day
>brawls for 1000
>event gold, extra 200 a day

etc
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You guys have been friendly about this so how about this here? Obviously would take more armor or spell armor based on the enemy.
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Next hero tease when?
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>win 3 games
>10 games later still not complete
Stop giving me shitters Blizzard.
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>>167144707
End of next week or in two weeks from now.
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>>167145774
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Why is Auriel so shit bros?

Go anywhere near a teamfight, get silenced&stunned by valeera and almost instantkilled. Even if I am not stunned my team is so far apart that my epic heal only hit 1-2 dudes.
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>>167146075
Sounds like your positioning is shit in general, and how do you get dicked by stealthies when your "skillshot" covers half the screen? Not to mention your whip!

Don't blame Auriel. Same shit would happen with every other support
.
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>>167146075
Why does it feel like at full energy her charge does just a little more than one of lili's auto targetting brewskies?
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>>167146278
Meant to say heal
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>>167130413
>>167130752
>Cho'Gall is good
>Cho'Gall is free pub wins
k
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>picks abathur in QM

why do people do this?
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>>167148821
dude it's just QM if you carea bout weinning just play HL :)) I'm just having fun
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>>167148821
If Cho'Gall is a tier 1 QM hero, then Abathur is too since Symbiote is basically playing as Gall.
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>>167148945
Except you do less damage than Gall, your host doesn't have more health and you're not missing a body to soak exp with.
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>>167148821
yeah bro this >>167148821 qm is jsut for fun bro like that what i say whenever i have 8 deaths before 4 mins its just like who fucking cares??? it aint ranked lol it doesnt matter man have fun

anyway when the fuck is nova gettin nerfed this bitch
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>>167149193
LiLi nerf when
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>>167149193
Valeera buff W H E N """"""""""?""""""""""
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>>167149193
When will Blizzard remove iceblock?
It's uninteractive unfun garbage that does nothing bit fuck over burst heroes for no reason, when they already habe problems in this meta.
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>>167149193
>>167148896
>>167148821
Jesus christ, so now meme heroes are only allowed in Vs. AI? There needs to be one mode where you can play whatever you want as long as you play competently.
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>>167151150
That's QM, minus the competently part.
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>>167148269
>Cho'gall
>Who misuses all of his ability
>Against 2 heroes doing max health % damage to him
hih rly mke me tink
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the power of chogall is everlasting poke and presence
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someone post that screenshot of a Cho'gall named Nig'gers
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>>167152779
>chogall shows up to a lane
>ignore him and 5-man push another lane
>he either tries to trade our tower for his fort or wastes time chasing us
>presence
Nah.
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>>167152779
>presence
lel

They make a team lose a body.
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>>167151382
Then why bitch about an Aba in QM?
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Post cute Li Li's or your favorite not-ingame Blizzard character will never be in HOTS
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>>167152779
>mfw I play Leoric and hit cho with W
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>>167155173
You aren't a cute vampire gf who would fuck a pathetic beta male like me, stop lying!
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>>167050265
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>>167090135
I want a gentleman/Secret agent Abathur skin. He wears a tux, his locusts get many a top hat, and his symbiote gets a bowtie.
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I've already got: Zeratul, Kael'thas, Jaina, Varian, Malfurion, Raynor, Sylvanas, Diablo, Johanna, Thrall, Valla, ETC & Azmodan.

Looking at: Li Ming, Sonya, Gul'dan & Zuljin as next heroes, is there any particular order I should unlock them in? Not giving blizzard cash for pixels so would be via gold.
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Anyone have Zagara lewds?
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>>167125769
>naz
>useless
i dont even own or play that nigger but your copper is showing
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>>167098284
I can help teach you Abathur mate, the new Sandbox mode is great for it. But yea, its a lot of practice. I can at least teach you some tricks.
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>>167077850
I want to impregnate those tits
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>>167079812
Ohhhh, I see it with the skull helmet and whole space marine thing. Not bad at all anon.
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>Play auriel or BW
>Win and get MVP
>Play anyone else
>Lose

I think I see a pattern here
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>>167083310
Yes, alternate dreanor, because otherwise we get the shitty ass cripple version and there are better arakoa for that
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>>167138713
You're going to get broll bearmantle and you're going to like it
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TFW you carrythur in an all melee team in draft, when theyu have double blind and Medivh.
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I just want a cute goblin chick, is that so much to fucking ask?
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>>167162847
Female Goblin Shredder operator. Or 2-3 female goblin sappers that move as one unit.
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>>167162847
Fel Queen Chromie
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>cm set
>cm weapon
>lightbringer tabard
>defiler's end
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>>167163742
>salty cuck that doesn't have Cutting Edge Archy
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>>167163528
Not the same and you know it
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>>167161937
Did someone say carrythur
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>be in QM
>matched against a 5 stack and my team are all solo queue

Why the fuck is this allowed? I thought this was only a problem in Overwatch.
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>>167165326
haha just have fun bro qm is like just a five clown fiesta bro like everyone says lmao it dont matter
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>>167164851
Welcome fellow Memeslug. It's good to see the slug strong.
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>play 8 games 3 times in a row
Fucking Blizzard making me waste hours on this game daily
What's the fastest way to finish 8 games?
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>>167166298
Versus beginner AI with a hardcore pushing comp, probably. When I was doing rooster races earlier this week we'd finish games in like 3ish minutes.
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>>167166298
Waiting till the next day and combine them with another quest.
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>>167102706
I'm out there buddy, you'll find me eventually
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I don't know why I can't stop playing this game. Every day I tell myself I'm going to take a break and play something else, but I keep coming back. This is my first moba, and I've only been playing for a few months. I actively try to get better at the game and am constantly watching videos and reading about the game. Some days, it seems like I'm improving a lot. Other days, it feels like it's hopeless and I'm never going to get better. Sometimes the salty retards on my teams are discouraging as well.
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>>167167136
I think it's hard ot kick because of it's quick and casual nature, in that you can just get into a game and go, and in 20 minutes you're free to do whatever else you want, it isn't some commitment thing.
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>>167167136
t. livejournal
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>>167167236
True. Most of the time though, I go to play one game or just do my dailies and end up playing for hours. I am trying to find people around my skill level that I play well with so I can play some team league, but it's seeming damn near impossible.
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what is the point of posting

>of course it works in below masters, nobody below masters can use X correctly

type posts?
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>>167168018
To remind people everything is possible in bronze?
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>>167168018
Arrogance and a false sense of superiority.
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>>167168018
>"nobody knows how to use cleanse below Masters"
>get memed on constantly by cleanse using malfs in plat 4
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>>167050265
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>>167131482
HGC played weeks 1 & 2 on the old patch. HGC week 3 will be the first time the pros can use reworked Tass
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>>167168414
Diablo? The silence is throwing me off.
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>Playing Team League with some friends.
>Pick Samuro in the first batch of picks.
>Enemy team proceeds to pick 3 squishes that all lack good AOE damage.
>Next game vs the same people pick Samuro again they pick Tracer but don't go Tracer Rounds.

Is this why people hate Samuro because it shows them how fucking stupid they are? Here's a hint if someone picked Samuro probably a bad idea to pick fucking Valla.
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>Valeera can 100-25 a full Souls Diablo

good design.
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>>167169901
LOL
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>>167100465
Already happened friend.

Valla / Diablo have Tyrael skins.
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>>167054071
i'm gonna be honest with you. Theres a lot of fucked up things out there i'd fuck. Protoss just doesn't do it for me.
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>>167170469
azgul'dan too
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>>167170734
You mean Gul'dan ripped off Azmo's skin.
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>>167105747
and grandmasterskins

cost 10k, unless you have master already then free for getting lvl 20.
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>>167170792
Imagine how big the hats would be.
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>>167170775
>literally recycling content
blizzard is done for
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>>167169901
>li ming goes down to 0 from the poisons during the silence starting at like a low level
really makes you think
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>>167112367
fuck off, Jo goes in the "default skin/color only" section

with diablo
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>queue for a game

>have solo support (monk), enemy has 2 supports (tass tyrande)
>have solo warrior (tyrael), enemy has 2 warriors (johanna sonya)
>our LiMing instantly DCs and doesnt reconnect for the rest of the game, LiMing bot feeds relentlessly
BLIZZARD GAMES, EVERYONE, THE AUTHENTIC(TM) EXPERIENCE
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>>167171130
banning eastern europe and russia would remove 95% of all leavers, afkers and DCs.
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>QM
>sylvanas (me), ragnaros, tyrande, raynor and lunara
>vs
>raynor, li li, li ming, kerrigan and zagara
>half of the team literally tanks all of the engage CC from kerrigan while we have shitty tyrande CC
>they never play back and let them engage deep on us
>they get all 4 immortals and we just lose because they constantly suicide in teamfights
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>>167171432
If this is on Immortal Shrine they should win that for the most part with Kerrigan. Sitting back and poking would just hard lose that every time.

Though Rag after lvl 13 with Q build should be almost impossible to kill with Resilient Flames.
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>>167170894
You mean the pauldrons, right?
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>>167131253
>tfw leoric had been my best char since he released
>tfw rework will ruin him somehow
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>>167171582
It was no good. Ragnaros was ahead on deaths along with Lunara. Raynor straight up just walked into his own ult as if he was leashed to his ship and just marched toward their team like he was an immortal.
It was a mess, and if Tyrande missed a CC, it was just a loss. Terrible team, in my opinion.
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>>167171601
No hats. Not everyone gets Pauldrons, but everyone gets big goofy hats. Well like everyone but Gul'dan.
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in a vacuum, what is the best talent in the game?
like, regardless of what hero you're playing, if you could take this talent every single game you would do it

fealty unto death?
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>>167171787
But hats suck, I want big beefy pauldrons like those spacemarines D:
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>>167171998
If heroics count probably Abathur's clone heroic.

For baseline talents I would say dampen magic.
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>>167171998
Kung Fu Hustle or Spectral Leech.
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>>167171998
I take Hardened Bones instead of fealty, you don't need fealty if you took reanimation at 1.
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>>167171998
healing ward
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>Team is completely ignoring the objective, only chasing after kills and laning ON FUCKING MINES
>Ask why we aren't even BOTHERING with the objective
>"its just qm dont care so much"

I never say this, but I want this meme to end.
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>>167172976
Fealty + Reanimation is Good Shit for being the most annoying asshole though, you can stay topped off at any time and you rez even faster if you let your ghost hover over a lane with minions.
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>>167175025
>implying i die on leoric

Idk, 25% dam reduction has saved me when i overextended multiple times.

I guess both are valid.
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>>167175149
in my experience, healing 20% of your HP just by clearing a wave (or better yet, HAVING someone clear a wave for you) is something I don't want to miss out on. also you never run out of mana.
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>>167174679
>be playing in QM as illidan
>jaina is next to me and there is a half health opposing jaina and a lili at 3/4 of health
>I engage and friendly jaina does a 180 and heads to the objective

I swear these fucking autists and their objectives. There is fucking unranked you dumb cunt.
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>>167175273
I get your point, but i've found with the regen I don't need to clear the wave for the HP as I have nearly full hp constantly. Mana is undeniably good in general, but I'm not sure i've ever ran out on Leoric.

Also I take heal at 7, as his Q already hits entire wave.
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>lose 4 times in a row
>go to bed with first win of the day bonus wasted
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>>167171751
>Raynor straight up just walked into his own ult as if he was leashed to his ship and just marched toward their team like he was an immortal.

Everytime I see this I laugh.
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>>167175273
Depends on your role and what build. A lot of the times Leoric is taken it's because of his % damage on W. Meaning you are going to take the W talents.
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>>167175695
quick 3 min AI then it won't be wasted as badly :^)
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>>167175759
full W build leaves me mana-less and without 3 sources of healing I normally get and I ***personally*** don't like that
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>>167175759
It still does great % damage without the talents.

With the sustain from heals it evens out damage wise. (over the whole match)
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>>167142673
they changed the quests weighting months ago now without ever responding to anyone calling it out. probably just being fooled by that. hold 2 still works, it's just that all the shitty quests are less likely now.
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>>167176295
are you sure about that
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Why did they nerf Zarya again
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>>167175695
>lose 5 in a row
>third game lost caused by leaver


fucking god damn kill me I cant take this anymore.
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>>167071985
jokes on you. warcraft's my favorite
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what date does chicken event end? havent logged into this shit game for a month, overwatch too. playing wow legion ^_^
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>>167177435
already ended
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>>167071985
Only reddit complains about multiple warcraft heroes in a row anyway
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>>167176462
you can log for yourself but this is conclusive enough for me.

if you are wondering about the 9 assassins quests i do play them a lot. would take a lot more time to see if it comes out to my account % of 50% assassin or is based off the past week or month, which would be closer. doesn't seem to be anything obviously exploitable like making quests impossible on the following day by playing certain things.
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In the 8 HL matches so far I've had 4 matches with a player leaving the game right after start (Always a Healer for some reason) one of the matches was with 2 players AFK.
>You can climb if u're not shitter
Yeah, nah, fuck this virtual vanity epeen shit
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>be HL last pick
>sonya tracer chromie
hello darkness my old friend
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>>167178524
dude lmao you can climb if youre really good you get the rank you deserve i mean whatre you gonna do go play five clown fiesta mode lmao its qm who cares
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>>167171432
>play sylvanas again
>samuro, li-ming, lunara and malfurion in my team
>vs
>kharazim, li-li, gul'dan, valeera and kerrigan
>malfurion goes twilight dream instead of tranquility when he has a sylvanas that 100% of the time goes the silence arrow and vs a super burst team with gul'dan, valeera and kerrigan
>we just lose like that
>mfw valeera straight up one-shoots me with one rotation while samuro and lunara are next to me, 1v3 literally
It's like QM is putting me with all non-CC heroes just to fuck with me or something.
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>>167159094
thanks anon.
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Now that we're getting one trenchcoat-clad bearded general that summons marines, does it mean Mengsk gets pushed even farther into the realms of "maybe in the future"?
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>>167178849
>tfw this free hero week is no CC except the boring-ass ETC
I'm not sure what Blizzard is expecting by doing this. Not even a single soul would pick Xul unless they're new.
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>>167178574
I pick abathur in this kind of situations.
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>>167175695
>>167177380
>lose 6 in a row now
>3 times leavers
>2 times terrible teammates
>1 time completely hardcountered by entire enemy team


yeah okay. I hope the devs that made this matchmaking get fucking cancer like the fucking cancer they programmed into this fucking cancer game to cause cancerous experiences.

Fuck you Blizzard.
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>>167179692
>Picking Abathur as a troll pick.

DISHONOR on your whole family!
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>>167178849
>no CC vs Valeera and Kerrigan
Disgusting.
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>>167178574
>second game after this
>nova first pick
>leaves at loading screen
all around me are familiar faces
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>>167179239
I-I would pick Xul.
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>>167154805
>play weeliee
>throw yourself in the front line
>hit e
>Illidan, Raynor, etc can't do shit about your hugs
>get insta-gibbed 4 seconds later
Easiest ultimate baits of my life.
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>>167090135
Demon hunter Tracer
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>Tfw your match history only has 15 losses on it
>All of that blue

unf, I can't wait to get fucked by that forced 50
>>
zzzz
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Am I the only one who pronounces ETC like eat shit without the t at the end?
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>>167186246
Am I the only one who pronounces Abathur like a pound of fur without the f?
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Does anyone else feel like they never deserve their win or loss 99% of time?
Almost all of my matches are blowouts for one side or the other with the opposite side standing 0 chance
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>>167186745
It happen all the time I just don;t care because I;m a quick meme hero.
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>>167186745
Mhm. Sort of why I took a break.

>good, even game
>both teams 20, putzin around waiting for objective
>their thrall randomly decides to randomly split-push in an open as fuck lane
>collapse and blow him to pieces
>force boss, they can't contest
>win

Just such a letdown, desu.
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>>167178574
Sonya is good now.
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>>167186745
just had a match where we were down all game and 1 4man mosh pit made us win

happens frequently desu
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>>167080895
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>>167080895
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my misha got bullied by leoric on braxis top lane

feels horrible
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>>167188404
Misha is expendable!
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When are Zeratul and Abathur going to stop being 10k gold?

I want my meme Starcraft heroes without paying out the ass for them already.
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>>167189362
I'd say never, but they reduced Rexxar from 10,000 to 4,000 somewhat recently.

Zeratul seems like he'll be next up, if they go ahead with another price reduction, which they haven't for a while now.
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>>167144354
Lvl 1 you want Maximum Charge 90% of the time except on BoE where you need the energy from your mates to race
Lvl 4 is a tie between Personal Shield and Give me Twenty ( If you take cleaning shield you can get your E to 7s cd ), you can sometimes pick the Shield Speed if you 2nd tank doesn't have mobility like Arthas.
7 I always go for the Q talent because with Maximum charge that's like 600dmg per pills in the center
Also at 10 always get expulsion zone, it's just too polyvalent to get anything else.
13/16 you can switch between Unstoppable on W and Armor at high energy and at 16 cleansing or overall cd reduction
20 is usually a nobrainer with rewind
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>>167189141
its the first matchup that i discovered i cannot win. fucking leoric
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>pick the `dont stand in front of that end, kid` man
>absolutely stomp, win and get mvp without trying

at last i see
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>>167190275
You can beat Leoric. Just push the lane with Rexxar. If he's standing on the point fighting Misha than he is losing XP.
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>>167191197
i tried. leoric has pretty okay waveclear senpai
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>>167189362
they seem content to leave them at 10k unfortunately. after them it's vikings then kharazim still at 10k.

thought they'd at least drop zeratul around when medivh came out. zera's skill floor is nothing like him. it's not that fucking hard to clear some waves and kill a dumbass once in a while to make a game of it.
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>3/5 off the enemy team is stealth
>Tracer goes Melee and not tracer rounds
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>>167168018
what is the point of posting

>_____ is good i did _____ scoreboard numbers

type posts?
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>>167193303
What does it matter? If Tracer gets opened up on by 3 stealthies she will be dead before she can even E.
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>>167193676
I was valla and they always waste everything on me
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>I'm gonna take a nap!
>Sleep for 7 hours straight wake up at midnight
A night of getting angry at HotS seems like it's in order because I'm not gonna be sleeping anytime soon.
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>>167090135
Obviously sailor elune
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>>167191364
If he leaves the point you get it. Hence you win
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>play HotS
>like 6 loss streak in QM in a day
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>>167194603
Li-Ming already has that skin tho. And she's a better hero than Tyrande too.
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>>167195954
qm is a clown fiesta
play unranked or HL
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>>167196313
I'm a mere level 30 player that is lacking like 98% of the heroes. I have not much knowledge on the match ups and shit.
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>>167195954
WAKE ME UP
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>>167196313
>implying every game mode isn't fucking retards until like the top 50 GM
Unranked Draft just means you can watch your teammate pick double mage into double tank instead of Blizzard just forcing you to do it.
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>>167196706
>get into master
>feel like I've got a shot at low, low GM if I play a lot
>lose will to play
>quit for months
>have more fun reading about game than playing it

>>167196398
Honestly could just hop into ranked whenever. Nobody has any idea what they're doing.

>don't have many heroes

You shouldn't be playing more than a few, especially while learning. Pick your favorite (preferably easy, bonus points if strong/meta) heroes and stick with 'em whenever you can.
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>guillotine double kill

never been harder
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>>167197819
>Pick cloak of shadows just to fuck guillotine
>zj face when
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>>167197819
>kill four of five people on the enemy team as murky
>no personal quadrakill because team game we're all equal etc

oof why even bother

this was like a year ago mind you
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How to make webms out of gameplay footage?

Am nub
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>>167198024
Google Webm For Retards.

First link.
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>>167197921

>valeera picks cloak of shadows
>loses for picking bad ult

laffin m8
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>>167198214
I picked it because I wanted to test it and we won because it was qm and I got grouped with a 4 man premade.
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>>167198024
OpenBroadcast to capture footage, then use any Webm converter
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>>167198024
install gentoo
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>>167198593
What year is it that these memes crawl out of the woodworks
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Am I going crazy? I could have sworn Blizz said Leoric was slated for a partial rework, but I cant find the interview that mentions it.
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>>167198734
What the fuck are you talking about? The meme is still pretty popular.
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>>167198734
filename
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>mfw QM Illidan for the first time in ages
>Auriel, Abathur, ETC, Raynor on my team
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>>167199298
>Am I going crazy? I could have sworn Blizz said Leoric was slated for a partial rework, but I cant find the interview that mentions it.
He already had his rework when they nerfed everything about him that made him fun to play. Four patches in a row.

He certainly could use a little more buffing. And his master skin needs a complete overhaul. Easily one of the worst in the game. I remember in one of the interviews blizz talked about how the master skins were about turning the art direction of any given character up to 11. Brilliant design there to cover up all of the bones on the Skeleton King.
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>>167199298
probably somewhere in their random reddit comments
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>>167197530
People who have never been high ranked in a game think "master league" is where all the good players are.

They couldn't be more wrong. The skill ceiling for this game is very, very low. There is no complex strategy or depth to this game. And because of that, people are especially vulnerable to fucking off, jacking off, doing stupid shit, getting tunnel vision, etc. I have seen top 15 GMs miss their spells several times in a row.
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>>167200556
Oh, I know. This applies to most games, or at least the ones I've played.

Consistency and the will to keep playing, to queue another game is what it seems to come down to. Just sort of lost interest.

>next in-dev, teaser or hero preview when, I live for these things
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>>167200924
>and the will to keep playing
That is a very fleeting feeling for me as well. Even if I win a total stomp, it just kills my desire to play. I don't want to get the "shit team".
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WHAT THE FUCK WAS HIS PROBLEM?
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>>167197530
>Pick your favorite (preferably easy, bonus points if strong/meta) heroes and stick with 'em whenever you can.
Even if he's The Butcher?
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>>167202179
Yeah, go for it. I'd suggest keeping in mind that's he is one of those Heroes that will get counterpicked, and you'll either need to learn to play around the counters or just accept you'll be putting your team at a disadvantage.

>immunities
>attack speed slows
>your vulnerable early game

But if you're looking for a Hero to 1-trick The Butcher is up there. Doesn't see a lot of play, so you won't have to fight for him, or pray he makes it through picks/bans, unlike Ragnaros/Thrall.

Also; fun. Have it. Don't burn yourself out. This is important.
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>>167202720
Yeah, I miss him since he got disabled from the free week. I have him at level 7 and he was my most played. I had a pretty good win streak with him as well in QM. Fun as hell, too.
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>>167202720
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How edgy is Alarak?
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>>167203542
He isnt edgy, just arrogant, and for a reason. Do not dare think your lord to be flawed in any way, peasant. If you fail, he is blaming you for it.
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>>167204238
But he is red and black, he is screaming edgy.
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>>167069828
kek, you just suck dude. sorry we had to be the ones to break it to you.
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>>167203542
0.3 illidans
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>>167204438
Alarak doesnt scream anything other than orders at lesser creatures like you. He didnt choose his attire to be edgy, he chose it to strike fear into the hearts of those who dare to oppose him, as they are swept into the dark void that is his unstoppable form before he blasts them apart.
A lord cannot be associated with mundane concepts you use like "edge." He is above that, and above you.
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>>167204238
>>167204438
He's basically "gg shit team this is just my smurf anyways im gm" the hero
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>>167203542
I don't like that he shittalks supports. They try! ;__;
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>>167204774
>Implying Alarak isnt a gm and you arent shit
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>>167205030
>Thats the best healing you can do? Ive had better.
Step it up, cuck.
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>>167204774
Isn't that Samuro or Illidan?
I always thought Alarak was a chill hero for chill players.
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>>167204738
Illidan is not that edgy, he is just a beta cuck
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>>167205192
Samuro is all about DAH WAY OF DUH BLADUH and Illidan is just angry and repressed. Alarak looks chill because he does everything effortlessly.
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>Alarak fans.
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>valla only one not with team
>telling everyone to group up
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>>167205529
>Inferior lifeforms
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>>167205863
>Space blizzard elves
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>>167205829
>retard dies off by themselves
>immediately says we should be grouping
>the rest of the team is grouped as four
>dead guy has GM portrait
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>>167205829
Valla a cute, CUTE!
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great tank or best tank?

dual blades of feed need not apply
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>>167203542
I loved his lines in HotS so much I went and watched every cutscene of his in SC2, having never played it or anything. The dude is not edgy at all, and I'm honestly surprised to find that he isn't even an antagonist.

What a fucking great character he is. But definitely not "edgy". Lazy ass word.
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>>167206882
I used to believe that Battlefield was the only place you should consider Fury, but even now I question whether it's just better to go Arms or Prot. Fury is just such a useless fucking spec for him. How the fuck do we fix Fury?
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>>167207064

By removing it from the game entirely.
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>>167050265
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Kill me
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>>167207064
Why do you memers insist fury is bad?

Talented right it gives him huge sustain
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>>167208559
Because it is.
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>>167208678
So your reasoning is that you're bronze?
Taunt is such short range and short duration that it's pointless, almost like a really shitty version of horrify.
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>>167208892

>he thinks taunt is bad

get a load of this projection holy shit
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>>167208892
>Go warbringer
>Go Taunt
>Charge
>Taunt
>Lock someone down for my team to pick off
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>>167208892
I just can't even muster the energy to respond to something like this.
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>>167208892
Are you retarded.
You're just a much shittier Illidan
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>>167208892

>fury is bad
>"O-OH YEAH! W-WELL TAUNT IS B-BAD TOO HAHA Y-YEAH SO BAD HAHA"
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>>167208892
>Taunt is such short range and short duration that it's pointless
>have a 50% slow and a usually low cooldown charge
>have tons of health and an evasion
Taunt is a point and click pseudo root that silences, with only a slightly higher cooldown than a basic ability. It's amazing for peeling divers off your supports and keeping enemy tanks from peeling your dps off their own supports.

Fury is bad because the sustain it provides does nothing for the majority of team fights.
The best analog I've seen is that it literally makes him into a bad Illidan. If you want to solo camps and dive backline, just pick illidan.

When he was released fury was strong enough to let him solo the entire fucking roster, but after the nerfs it's only good for taking camps, and once again if you want to solo camps then just pick Illidan.

He's a fantastic tank and a great glass canon in certain scenarios, CS absolutely melts people, but his in-between is in a really bad spot right now.

Also, you should stop calling people memers and defaulting to "you're a baddie" argument whenever you lose your cool.
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>>167208892
>Taunt is such short range and short duration that it's pointless, almost like a really shitty version of horrify.
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>>167135272
Even with the increased radius, it's a very small AOE.
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>>167208892
Anon... sir... Taunt is nowhere near bad. You are sorely mistaken.
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>>167208892
>Wanna go Damage
>Picks Fury
Just go Colossal Smash you Dumbass
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>>167208892
>taunt is pointless
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>>167208892

That's some quality bait.
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>>167208892
Fuck, you're every solo "Warrior" Varian that I get in QM. Motherfucking GOD, multi-class was a mistake.
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>>167208892
>really shitty version of horrify
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>>167209861
t.b.h. it's really obvious
i dunno why everyone's biting it
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>>167208892
Somebody should draw Tracer typing this angrily on one of Winston's computers. Much like >>167053709
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>>167210167
Oh man, that would be fantastic
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>>167210041

Perhaps because it's easier to relate to. I'm sure we've all bumped into that one Twin Blades Varian at least once.
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>>167210167
Drawfriend pls
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Li Li: 7506113762395750650693552
Zeratul: 7606712938964633223050996

enjoi
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>>167206935
this, he's an excellently fleshed out character, he's never a good person, but that is what makes him swiftly joining the heroes so interesting
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>>167206935
>>167210390
He's so damn narcissist its crazy
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>>167210340
Now I have Zeratul, neato
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>>167210471
Absolutely, its probably what got him so easily dupped into doing exactly what he defenders of man wanted, burning civilian populations centers to discredit peace between the protoss and dominion

I'm hoping Blizzard does an Official Tal'darim campaign for him Ala Nova Covert Ops
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>>167210340
Thank you anon, I got Li Li.
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alright, so I havent been playing long and havent been to this general before, what do you guys think about buying skins?
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>>167210841

Get it if you like it but try for the best sales around Blizzcon/Summer

Bundles can also be good
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>>167210841
Waste of money unless they're on sale AND one of the very few good ones.
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>>167210841
I'd spend money on skins like Warmaster Chen and Iron Butcher, but I'd also want to buy them in sales and not for the real money. It's too expensive.
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>>167211027
>tfw no wowtoken until at least 7.2
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>>167210340
do you have more codes?
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>>167211486

He probably just bought that starter pack and already had Li Li.
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>>167210841

Very possible and likely a new "loot" system is added to the game this year. I'd save money until we learn more about that, because it's likely that at least rare and epic skins could be obtained somehow for free.
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>>167208892
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>>167207303
>these meaningless stats that don't take into account game length or league

fuk you blizzard
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>>167210841
>probably about an $800 hole in my wallet says that this is a slippery slope
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>>167212361
>$800
>on this game

how
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New Tass is extremely good the minute you stop building him exactly like the old one.

He's Medivh on steroids.
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>>167212495
explain
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>>167212456
playing since closed beta, accounts in 2 regions
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hhnngg
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>>167212641
>purchases aren't cross-region
Ugh.

>>167212741
That's a good sort of feel. What's with almost always getting the 600 or 800 one these days, though?
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>>167212741
>waaahhh gold is too hard to come by
>this f2p model is so bad wow bli$$ard wtf
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>>167212583
Archon is straight up busted right now.

Oracle at 7 gives insane vision. Storm builds hit like a truck and still give beefy shields.

If they made Tassadar a Specialist and not a Support people would get why he's good in a hot minute.
>>
More and more over time I'm coming to think that getting rid of roles (warrior, support, assassin, specialist) is a good idea.
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>>167213051

I don't see why these chart things aren't in game.
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>>167213051
They aren't a bad idea, it's just that they kept fucking churning out heroes that can perform much more than just their given role, so it all just sort of became one big grey blotch.
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>Tfw your WoW main has been a Horde Resto Shaman for a long time now
>And Rehgar is always a good pick

Feels fan-fucking-tastic. Now let's get an Elemental Shaman in here, and make sure he actually feels like an Ele Shaman, unlike Thrall's retarded "I feel like a Warrior but with a lightning ability" ass.
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>>167213504

Thrall is loosely based on his hero unit from WC3.

He's got the main abilities anyway, the "he's a melee assassin" thing came as a change in design choice in the game in early Blizz-DOTA days back when Thrall was going to be permanently on his wolf like his unit from Warcraft 3. They thought it was weird to have his silhouette much smaller than other heroes, so they made mounts a thing all heroes could use and gave Thrall his legs, and a kit that made him aggressive.

Magatha Grimtotem when
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>Monkey King Samuro is a legendary skin.

God damn it.
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>>167213813
At least they're actually selling it right now. I'm still fucking pissed you can only get Ming's skin from the bundle.
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>>167213804

Old Blizz Dota models were so bad, glad we got what we have currently. New art team is godly in comparison.
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>>167059478
kinky
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>>167213504

>wowfags get varian and Valeera
>think they are entitled to every class and spec from wowcrap

make me lol out loud
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>>167214212

Varian is hardly a Warrior but Valeera is most definitely a Rogue.

>wonder who we'll get next
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>>167214212
As usual diablofags on suicide watch.
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>>167214446

Warcraft has more memorable characters and abilities that aren't "gimme a carbon copy of the spec i like".
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>>167213963
her skin is next week
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>>167214048
I liked some of the concepts in the models like the maps that were hybrids of different settings merged together
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>>167214303
>hardly a warrior
All he's missing is a Rage resource system.
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>>167214303
that picture is funny because frost mage is literally just mash the buttons that light up the spec.
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>Diablo event
>2 Diablo maps
>Starcraft event
>2 Starcraft maps
>No Warcraft event
>No Warcraft maps
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>>167214708

It looked like ass, but I do hope there will be more settings from the Nexus or from other franchises added.

>tfw no rock and roll racer map where the cars race around and the objective is to boost up your car and disarm traps that might slow it down

Not sure how the race will affect pushing, but it sounds cool in my head.
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>>167214847

>tfw no warsong gultch map
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>>167214847

>Overwatch gets the next event and not Warcraft

I'd love for wowfags to be BTFO
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>>167214618
Except said memorable characters all have classes within the universe, and these classes have abilities which are iconic. There are plenty of Shaman who could rock the Elemental styled kit. Drek'Thar, Magatha to name a couple.
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>>167214916
I really liked that Blizzard All-Stars had that chess theme for all of the minions.

Then again, I think the whole decision to set the Nexus in a variety of watered down fantasy universes was really stupid.
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>>167215324
>>167215324

NEW BREAD BEFORE DEAD
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>>167215279
I hated how generic the nexus was at first, but the Diablo and Starcraft flavored maps have really helped, I also liked Luxoria
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