/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

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>>166812404
based

>>166812093
Everything looks pretty regular desu

>>166811984
What's this?

>>166812521
Looks like he's trying to figure out the most OP countries in EU4
aka minmaxing

>>166812404
Absolutely based

>>166812404
uh oh
INCOMING SHITPOSTER GROUPS BUTTHURT

EU4 is pretty fucking boring, anyone has a suggestion of something interesting to do?

>>166812389
Fun/Good nation for eu4 mp?

>>166812602
Yes go take a hike in the natureand take in the impressions of national romanticism.

>>166812602
I don't know. Blobbing? Fucking around trade flow?

>>166812643
Depends what the other players will play.

Question, because I never played MP before: Do people usually just pick whatever nation they want, aka OP nations and great powers, or do they usually pick small nations? What's common?

>>166812602
UNINSTALL.EXE
also, try only keeping to a certain geographical region such as central Europe if you're German or a sort of greater France depending in whatever nations you're playing and instead of blobbing create vassals or marches to control other areas. It's sort of more realistic and potentially more fun, but after a certain point EU4's lack of depth really kills replayability so try playing a better game.

>>166812521
Trying to measure how good different eu4 nations are at combat.

Currently 0.5 Army Tradition has a value of "6.102232556 Discipline".

It all of course depends on a lot of situations, and the armies used for measuring aren't representative of all countries and eras.

You still have to use some common sense and apply to the listing, but I think it is neater than going over the national ideas of nations and on the spot looking over the fire damage, leader shock and shock damage recieved to get an idea how food the nation is.

If you'd get a 6 shock, 6 fire general anyway the extra AT doesn't help you in that respect, only in the extra morale you get.

>>166812725
idk really I've never played mp

>>166812602
uninstall.exe and play something good like Victoria 2

>>166812643
I like Punjab.

Good military ideas and economic ideas.

15% production efficiency is among the highest in the game, then it also has 10% goods produced which has synergy with production efficiency.
Goods produced also boosts gold and I like to get gold provinces up to 8-9 base production.

>>166812643
>mp
oh nevermind this: >>166812845

I guess they're not bad, but you'd start out as delhi, release and play as punjab, and then you'd be gambling on the timurids coming.
So I wouldn't say mp safe.

>>166812725
They usually pick GPs

>>166812845
>playing as subhumans
You have to go back.

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Rate my europe.

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>>166813002

>>166813009
5/10

>>166813074
You have to go back shitskin

What's the difference between this thread and >>166812250 apart from R+I at the start? Yet the other one was abandoned even though it was made first.

>>166813009
>le rome
kys

>>166813097
t. german """aryan""" larper

>>166813158
t. poo in the street

>>166813009
I played that mod. So unbelivbly overpowered its not even funny I colonized North America by 1650 and had more modifiers then any nation could ever need. Kinda fun once though only wish the mid game was more then sweeping up indians and colonizing though.

>>166813212
kys

>>166813134
>part from R+I at the start?
Hi newfag
The first post marks the proper thread.
Welcome to /gsg/ now fuck off.

>>166813236
Yeah I took north america (Stopped at the real life border to Mexico, Spartainia in this universe) and spend my time trying to bankroll small nations and see what I could fuck up with proxy wars.

I am actually sending 50 gold a month to Prussia in the hope that they blob, so far they are very peaceful.

>>166813293
t. 'streets are my loo' shitskin

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RATE MY EUROPE

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I was able to migrate to jamaica, but I'm unable to migrate either forward or backwards? The heck is going on.

Was hoping to make Carib great in the Caribbean, but the islands are like 6 away from my colonial range, and now I'm stuck. reee

>>166813567
hm weird

couldn't migrate from aleut to alask for some reason as a native siberian clan council and couldn't figure it out.
Wasn't a real game I was just testing stuff though.

>>166812404
WWWW
&&&&&&
BBBBBB

@166813552
stop posting anytime

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Should I join the league?

If I should become emperor then I will need protestant to win or a white peace in that war. But is becoming emperor necessary?

Also, France will ally me if I join their league, but I will lose Austria as ally.

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>>166813567
Fuck my life, I hired an advisor to increase colonial range, then remembered that you can only colonize adjacent provinces as primitives

I'm literally stuck on this island, and I'll never be able to westernize either.

I am perpetually set up until big bubba portugal/spain comes to tear my anus and game over me. Game over man.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=707765792&searchtext=
Is this a good mod?

>>166813353
Nah I'm a based t.urk
will bash you tho

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I managed to meet the requirements for converting to a merchant republic pretty fast, but should I wait a while before enacting it? Max out all my tribal holdings perhaps, or wait for a very young ruler to maximize my years spent ruling so I can focus on economic growth and not sinking money into the election?

>>166814042
t. shitskin

>>166813945
>then remembered that you can only colonize adjacent provinces as primitives

Oh even if you get to dip 3?

Are Charlemagne and Old Gods worth the buy? Don´t want to wait for the next sale, whenever that is.

>>166814283
You know, I never considered that. That's probably how it would work.

>>166813873
If you form prussia maybe you can win that league war with 100 militarization.

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>>166811048
Yep, it does work.

Succubus Rust Empire queen here. Feels kind of sad though, that it just sorta seemed the faith was becoming a vehicle for me.

Played her loving being pregnant and having children. I think the direct born children count was nearly 100 last I played it. I was kind of evil too, once I realized the succubus powers I had accidentally sort of spread far and wide. So I'd been spending a bunch of time "reclaiming the blood" - if I couldn't convince long lost family members who didn't know why they had powers and urges, I killed them. It was horrible. I'm still ashamed.

You don't know how hard it hurts to not only leave your children out there in the world, never knowing her loving touch, but to take their life. At least, as a succubus, I could make it painless.

>>166813074
Sorry Guru, I'm so sorry.

>>166813074
The reason why a lot of these Indians or their deities are so pale in artwork is because pale skin was considered holy in the Vedas. It's one of those devices the white settlers tried to use to keep themselves apart from the Dravidians.

It didn't work, and that's why no Indian today is that pale.

>>166814579
who the fuck cares about shitskins?

>>166812404
W&B

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R8 my Yurope

I haven't managed to solve the crashing issue. I'll probably have somebody take a look at my save in hopes he could tell me what to do.

>>166815462
why did you make it neon green

is hitlermod ded?

>>166814341
>>166814283
No. Boats and over sea colonization is literally locked until you upgrade to monarchy.

What a waste of time and dip tech to test.

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Posting again beacuse last thread reached limit.
MP session, playing as Russia, France is about to attack, I'm 1 tech behind them, and am low on ideas. Took humanist, admin and defensive.
They don't have allies, but neither do I.

Should I join with ottomans to take back Crimea? I will go to war with either haixi or ming next, where should I put my capitol and trade port in asia?

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>>166814352
Maybe, but I'm a long way from forming Prussia I think. Not even sure if I'm gonna try at this point. TO is too strong, and at the moment I'm very weak, almost no income and I can barely keep a mid sized army.

>>166815886
If you can ally ottomans then you will have nothing to worry about France, I imagine.

>>166816230
Well, france has a total of 300k troops, the same number me and ottomans have combined. Ottomans also have 0 manpower.

>>166816601
How do you know they have 0 manpower?

>>166816696
He told me.

>>166816716
Do NOT trust the roach

>>166816830
Still, if it's true, we're not gonna have a good time.

>>166816601
How did he manage to swing 300k manpower in 1585? I didn't think lower England had this much value.

>>166817057
It's very easy because spain, portugal and scotland are new players. Arabia and ottomans are relatively new as welll.

>>166817196
I don't understand why that matters. Will france really have 300k manpower by owning england and the dutch lands+ a couple of hre provinces? I will need to check out france sometime, they have more potential than I thought.

>>166817423
>united france
>not the stronkest EU blob

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>>166814375
R8 my OC slutfu. I wanted to Advance the Flag of Dixie but for some reason when I made an OC I instantly got the USA title when I used the Extra Titles addon.

What religion did you go for?

>>166815739
hm, annoying


Could've started a new game and console tested it.

Damn. I had an idea where I would play carib and convert to nahuatl, and then get to dip tech 3 to colonize an island next to euros, since carib have vision over that area.
I guess that won't work.

>>166815886
>Took humanist, admin and defensive.
show everyones idea groups

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negative warscore is because I didn't realise armies had to be non-exiled to fight troops that walk in their province

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Can someone explain something to me?
Is Kaiserreich for DH bugged?

I'm trying to do an amphibious assault in the Phillipines but the mission does not appear in the list. Right clicking at the desired province does not work.

It's strange, because I had no problems with this while playing regular DH, and the Japanese have started their own amphibious assaults against me multiple times.

>>166817597
>1 diplomacy as an empress
>2.6 billion gold
nani?

>>166817423
>Culture Groups by development
German
Chinese
French

>>166817885
France has: quantity (7), admin (7), offensive (7), exploration
Prussia: influence (7), admin (7), quality (7), offensive
Ottomans: quality (7), admin (7), quantity (7)

Rest are irrelevant.

Prussia won't attack me because we have truce for another 12 years.

>>166817989
You can spam the whoring events non-stop and you get a gorillion amount of money. Who knew it was that easy.

>>166817423
>>166818016
Also, France has 5 vassals, most of northern Italy, that's Venice, Montferat, Florence, and Northumberland in england.

>>166818071
I refuse to believe that there's even close to 2.6 billion pieces of gold circulating in post-apocalyptic America. You've whored so much 500% of the world's GDP has passed through your rancid crotch.

>>166817989
>>166818071
Oh yeah I also borrowed money from the kikes, not sure if that's from After the End or Dark World.

>>166818037
>Prussia won't attack me because we have truce for another 12 years.
So he'll have to pay ~300 paper mana to attack you


I think you're gonna get slaughtered desu, but at least the prussian player will be able to murder france later on so maybe that could give you some satisfaction.

have you started on your 3rd idea group?
which was it? humanist?

>>166818121
hm, another 4 sets of leader pools and a minimum of 40k manpower.

What's your manpower at? 280k?

>>166818203
My admin is 3, defensive is 2 and humanist 4.

He doesn't have a cb either, since he took all the cores back from Lithuania.

What is a total conversion CK2 mod where I can conquer all of the map without crossing the vassal/demense limit?

>>166818316
Probably the Mount&Blade one? Or Geheimnisnacht if you play a Chaos Nomad. Just disable the vassal/demense limit if you find it so troublesome.

>>166818305
>My admin is 3, defensive is 2 and humanist 4.
ah okay, too late to convince you to abandon humanist then

It's not bad, but if you were at 7 admin and defensive 2 maybe another idea group could've been a better option.
Also I think religious has better synergy with russia.

>He doesn't have a cb either, since he took all the cores back from Lithuania.
Doesn't matter really if he'd plan to truce break

>>166818274
Maximum is 137k, which is basically nothing.

>>166818387
What I'm asking is a mod where the map is small enough for me to rule it as an ordinary feudal empire without having to cheat.

I like small-scale /gsg/ but there's little of it.

I'M A /GSG/ SHITPOSTER AND I WANNA BE FREE
HELL TO R&I AND GRANDI

>>166818484
I don't think any mods like that exist, but you can do a world conquest and rule as a regular feudal ruler without having to cheat in vanilla ck2. There shouldn't be enough king titles for you to break your vassal limit, but if you do just merge the smaller ones.

Bought Charlemagne and Old Gods. Still have 8 euro to purchase another dlc. Any recommendations?

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>>166817597
Very nice. A real qt. I can't tell what ethnicity you're supposed to be. Cajun?

You do know you don't need the Seduction focus though as a succubus, right?

Also, who raped you?

>exclusive whore
topkek

>>166817973
First of all, is Baguio a beach province? An amphib assault coast has to be a beach province (you can tell in the terrain portrait).

Second, what are you assaulting with? The amount of units you can AA with is limited by techs. That early on, you can only AA with 1 or 3 divisions at the most I think. Marines are the only unit who don't have to obey the limiter.

>>166818582
My computer wouldn't be able to handle the size of that theoretical empire and I'd have much more fun ruling over an immense empire in a fictional world because that doesn't beggar as much disbelief desu.

I'll just disable the limit as you said on a mod of my choice then.

>>166818462
damn that's way lower than I expected.
made the mistake of adding your amibition to the mix, but I still would've guessed 187500 without it.

Difference could be attributed to autonomy I guess.
If you can try to wait until after you've made a province into a territorial core and then stated the province before you raise autonomy, if you do raise autonomy.

I think that means you'll have the province at ~50+25 autonomy instead of 75+25


How are you on money and forts?
I don't think attrition alone will deter him, but it's something at least, it can be painful if the other player is spooked about splitting up his armies too much.

>>166818668
I don't but it gives me extra children. And yeah for the looks, but converted to Dixie culture immediately after. Is there some Evangelical heresy that accepts women?

>exclusive whore
what, you didn't pimp yourself out too?
>2 gorillion

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How am I for time, focusing more so on the Empire than Hungary in this run as I'm trying to master the early game for when I do MP with my friends as the princes

>>166818668
wut mod's this?

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>>166818739
I have roughly 6k saved up, I'm making a + and that's with 44 forts fully maintained, pic related, most of them here are level 4.

Ignore the picture for the other parts, I loaded the savegame and cheated to see how much I can push my numbers up.

>>166818678
There are various performance mods out there, I highly recommend the one that disables India. You could probably also disable Mali, Mongolia and Abyssinia without noticing any difference in gameplay. Flatten the map (even looks better) and delete the songs.

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>tfw you could easily take Vernoa thus leaving only 2 provinces to prevent shadow kingdom, but you have 0 manpower and still coring last wars possessions

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>>166818935
hm that's a lot of fort.

Why do you place them that way with three adjacent to eachother?

>>166818668
I have the tech. The province does have a beach. In fact that is not the province I wanted to invade at first, but the other one also had a beach.

I tried assaulting first with more divisions, but then tried with less and even 1 but the mission does not appear. I only have infantry in that army. I don't think there is anything in the brigades apart from artillery.

>>166819281
>Map of white population distribution by 2100

>>166819281
For more attrition, since my army is relatively weak, they have to spend more time in those provinces. Also, all those forts are in the woods so I get easier defense.

>>166819369
>canada
>sweden
>white

yeah right

>>166819273
don't you need rome anymore?

>>166819452
>Southern Sweden isn't racemixed
>Big cities area in Canada isn't black

>>166819431
>Also, all those forts are in the woods so I get easier defense.
that's good

curious if maybe you could increase your cav ratio and get up to 20% cav combat from the cossack estate to punch a bit harder on the french armies.
Expensive though.

Do you have any forts on the steppes?
I think with enough loyalty/influence the cossack estate gives +1 attrition on the province they own.

>>166819559
Don't think it's worth it, since they get a lot of warscore if they break through most of the forts in the pic. They won't bother attacking the steppes

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>>166818845
Nice. Cajun can make cute! Yeah I picked Northeasterner (i.e. Celtic). I like to think she's really cute.

That girl who's trying to seduce me is actually my daughter I had with the King of Ontario's wife. She actually was able to do Blood Moons and thus ascend to immortality too before I holy warred Niagra and got her under my realm. Got her back into the dynasty with one of my sons.

And nah for this game I didn't whore myself out. Wanted to try to not have a game where my husband hates my guts.

Though this feels...worse. Nah, just seducing far and wide, and sticking my futa cock inside other rulers wives, taking cocks of other various husbandos and cute ethnicities. Or anyone who strikes my fancy. The Rust Empire must be assured.

I strive to make it to 100 kids.

>>166818902
After the End. The lewd bits are Dark World.

>>166819785
Speaking of, its my husband that raped me kek. Also what religion is more acceptive of female rulers in After the End? Preferably some evangelical heresy so its easier to convert the South.

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What a pitiful effort. I should just leave the Mongols to their shame

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So how important is prestige in CWE? Is it what determines the superpower (not GP) ranking?

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La Plata

>>166819662
yeah not worth building any new forts on the steppe probalby, but france has some stuff in crimea and would attack from there I assume?
Could spread out cossacks to give him some extra attrition while he goes north.


On mil 14 eastern cav is the best in the world btw, and will continue to stay the best for a while, so possibly have a bit of a window to use that to your advantage.
How's your composition?

yeehaw

are there any unexpectedly powerful/underappreciated nations in V2?

similar to how some indonesian nations in EU4 can quickly grow large and wealthy and keep up on tech.

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Based Erdogan

>>166819462
Yep still need Rome, but once you enact 'rein in northern Italy' you can give it back just fine.
Preventing the shadow war and the english civil war is something the devs need to work on.
Like maybe have the papal palace and Rome be separate cities, as so many other things are make believe in this game *cough* united Germany *cough*

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lads

>>166818935
For the love of god, do not waste monarch points by letting it stay maxed while you wait for techs to update. You need to use your monarch points if you can't take more tech yet. Like spend it on your development. If only just a little bit, each time you're maxed out on monarch points. Or changing cultures/accepting culture groups around in your lands. Whatever you do, you need to use them (!)

>>166820517
Anything with lots of pop, or in good position to get lots of pops?

>>166820695
vanilla map/10

>>166820695
lol who tf plays eu3 anymore...

>>166820769
me?

>>166820745
>Anything with lots of pop, or in good position to get lots of pops?
is population the biggest factor by far? i've only played a few games as some GP's so i'm not sure how everything works yet.

>>166820695

>EU3

Cuck

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>>166820548

>>166820695
>playing eu3
>current year
It's not I want everygame having realistic graphics, I just don't want to have a seizure playing it

>>166820517
south africa, australia, persia, morocco, peru

>>166819785
ayo is dark world in the OP, if not where can i pick it up?

>>166820860
More or less. prestigewhoring can only propell you into GP status, but you'll need industry and military to stay there, and both those depend on your pops.

>>166820860
>is population the biggest factor by far? i've only played a few games as some GP's so i'm not sure how everything works yet.
It is.
More pops, more industry and taxes and brigades so more score
POPs>>>all

>>166820548
and white

>>166820517
I shill Ukraine here nonstop, its fun as fuck.
>lots of pops
>lots of Ukrainian pops outside your borders to justify blobbing
>fuckload of coal and grain for easy industrialization
>can completely throw off the balance of power in Europe

>>166820860
Yes, so always focus on the techs and reforms that will increase your pop growth

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>>166821116
>independed

flagman are you here

>>166820769
based people

at least if he's playing httt and not the nu-male dw version

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What should my next idea group be? I'm thinking economics or administrative, but which one?

>>166820517
Poland
Similar to >>166821558 but with added difficulty of having to go against 2 or 3 GP.
Tips:
Austria is a joke if you tech yourself, declare war on OPM protected by Austria, Krakow is great as you have CB from start.
Declare on OPM in Prussia sphere to get 1v1 with Prussians
If you play vanilla then Russia can be your best friend for life
Else France hate Germans.
Prussia have habit of going after you first in event of two front war with Poland and France.

In some games NGF was easier to mange than endless German OPM allied with Prussia.

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Another victory for democracy

>>166821991
admin if you plan on blobbing a lot. economic won't be as useful since you already or will own the lubeck trade node.

>>166820676
>the shadow war

Sounds like something in a comic book

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>>166822421
2017-01-28 17:19:08 [WARNING] TRN has an invalid invention. Is this using a mod that changed inventions?
2017-01-28 17:19:08 [WARNING] TRN has an invalid invention. Is this using a mod that changed inventions?
2017-01-28 17:19:11 [WARNING] CAN has an invalid invention. Is this using a mod that changed inventions?
2017-01-28 17:19:11 [WARNING] CAN has an invalid invention. Is this using a mod that changed inventions?
2017-01-28 17:19:11 [WARNING] CAN has an invalid invention. Is this using a mod that changed inventions?
2017-01-28 17:19:11 [WARNING] CSA has an invalid invention. Is this using a mod that changed inventions?
2017-01-28 17:19:11 [WARNING] CSA has an invalid invention. Is this using a mod that changed inventions?
2017-01-28 17:19:13 [WARNING] ENG has an invalid invention. Is this using a mod that changed inventions?
2017-01-28 17:19:13 [WARNING] ENG has an invalid invention. Is this using a mod that changed inventions?
2017-01-28 17:19:13 [WARNING] ENG has an invalid invention. Is this using a mod that changed inventions?
2017-01-28 17:19:13 [WARNING] FRA has an invalid invention. Is this using a mod that changed inventions?
2017-01-28 17:19:13 [WARNING] FRA has an invalid invention. Is this using a mod that changed inventions?
2017-01-28 17:19:13 [WARNING] FRA has an invalid invention. Is this using a mod that changed inventions?
2017-01-28 17:19:13 [WARNING] GER has an invalid invention. Is this using a mod that changed inventions?
2017-01-28 17:19:13 [WARNING] GER has an invalid invention. Is this using a mod that changed inventions?
2017-01-28 17:19:13 [WARNING] GER has an invalid invention. Is this using a mod that changed inventions?
2017-01-28 17:19:16 [ERROR] Error: Cannot find leaf ideology in object
party=
{
name=CZH_reactionary
start_date=1830.1.1
end_date=2000.1.1
economic_policy=state_capitalism
trade_policy=protectionism
religious_policy=moralism
citizenship_policy=limited_citizenship
war_policy=jingoism
}

pls halp

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Am I white? Also r8

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>>166822665
also r8 peaceful Europe, there are never ending crisises but always resolved peacefully

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>>166822312
My plan is first and foremost to unite germany. After that I will blob a lot (if I still care). Uniting germany is a bit of blobbing in itself due to the high development, I suppose. So I should take admin then?

I have lubeck and hamburg provinces, but I still don't have more than 29% of the node. It annoys me that I don't have a lot of money by now. I can barely afford my 40k army. In fact, I can't technically afford my army during war-time.

Can someone give me a rundown on ship types in Hoi4? There are dry stats but I'm not really sure what I should be getting, which type for what?
Are subs good only for convoy raiding?

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Aragon may have become 'de valois' land rather than Hapsburg, but yay I finally got a PU. Any tips for dealing with them?
>>166822402
Modern historians prefer terms to not overlap, so they can't use Cold War

>>166822913
I only played it for a bit when it came out, but what I figured (take it with a grain of salt) is that those large battleships aren't really worth building. Instead build many destroyers and heavy cruisers. If you want any bigger ones then build a few battle cruisers. Never the Super heavy battleships.

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>>166823048
Yay I'm finally a GP, how often does the AI join my enemies side to balance out the GP's, or is that a player feature only

>>166817973
You have to select amphibious assault mission on the fleet, not the the divisions inside the ships.
Those ships might not have enough range either, where is their home base? try to rebase them somewhere closer.

>>166818668
How old?

>>166823275
It happens a lot if you ask me. Ottomans have done it to me plenty of times, ruins the day everytime. So definitely take it into consideration.

>>166822665
Bretty nice. Who do you start as to form Andine? I have never played in South America in HPM

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>Capitalists start building a bunch of factories
>They're actually profitable
Wait, what?

>>166823461
peru-bolivian confederation

>>166823461
I started as Peru-Bolivia, immediately gave up on wars with Argentine and Chile, and annexed both Perus during their revolt

>>166823451
If I keep good relation with Otto's eg +100 do they stay out, or does need for war balance outweigh friendship

>>166823839
They do it if they are rivaled to you, in my experience. If they are your friend, then they won't.

>>166823757
And you get cores on Chile?

>>166824050
Yeah they rivalled me

>>166824071
No, I just conquered them. since they are same culture, it made sense that they would "join" the federation.

>>166824439
True I like it.

>>166824262
Then you should watch out. Even if you have positive relationship with them, their attitude will never be friendly if they are you're rivals.

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>Nearly got Khristian Japan as well as the Throne chevo
>Bankrupt
Well it neatly solved my boredom - don't need to play again until the dlc is out

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>>166823695
Well we've got to put a stop to that, now don't we?

>>166823048
you're using a graphics mod here right? if so which one?

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>>166824693
Ah, there we go.

>>166824768
I'm not him, but it looks like he isn't using any. If it's the mountains you're reacting to then it's the result of the latest patch.

>>166824873
Oh and the darker boarders are states-boarders, also a result of latest patch.

>>166824768
Nope no mods, 2 updates or so ago it made it that if you own the majority of provinces around wasteland you make it your colour. that way Africa can be fully coloured in even when you can't conquer most of the south

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Really lapses your synapses huh?

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>>166824768
The best graphics mod is simply the darker waters mod, if you ask me. Nothing else.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=354529569&searchtext=water

Of course, some prefer more extreme changes to the map.

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wew lad

what is a fun ck2 campaign

I have 155 songs (8 hr 40m) of paradox music carefully selected for my EU4 playing. CK2, march of the eagles, EU3, a couple of VIC2, EU Rome, (and the EU4 soundtrack minus a few horrible songs).

I play them in spotify in the background desu. I just love it.

It has made my experience with playing EU4 so much better. The EU4 music didn't really bother me in the first place, but I was a bit tired of it, so I tried this, and the result was mindblowing. I love it.

>>166825843
Form Russia.

>>166825843
Take Hasteinn of Nantes and go somewhere far far away

>>166825843
Try playing tall instead of blobbing. OPM Gotland (stay Norse and raid all day long to get the cash to max out all your holdings) and laugh all the way to the bank being able to pump out 30,000 units from a single province that also generates 500g/year.

If you don't want to remain a single province or don't like tribals you can do the same thing with Frisia (with conclave, max centralization and high stewardship you should more or less be able to personally hold the entire kingdom) or staying small and independent in north Italy/Switzerland.

>>166826696

>30k units from a single province

How?

>>166827086
With maxed holdings and stacked bonuses those are the numbers you could expect from a high-end province.

1 town, 1 church, 5 castles x 50% capital levy bonus, x50-75% marshal bonus, x50-100% martial skill bonus, 30% if you're reformed germanic, 20% if you're an adventurer etc

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>>166824839
>Scandinavia forms
>Can steal release Communist Sweden in Finland
OK

>>166827309
not to mention the 15% levy multiplier you can get from setting crown focus

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Feudal or Merchant Republic?

What decides when pops become soldiers?
Is it the military budget slider?

>>166827932
Merchant is objectively better. City vassals rarely act up.

>>166823314
>>166818668

Oh. There is a dedicated tech for the Amphibious Assault mission.
Which is weird. I've been researching other Amphibious Assault tech that increased the sized and efficiency of the mission but didn't have the one that enabled it. It's weird that it was not a pre-requisite.

>>166828035
Also you're locked into one of the best succession laws in the game (IMO), agnatic seniority

>>166828013
If you need soldiers try the encourage soldiers focus which promotes pops to soldiers fairly quickly. military budget is troop pay so I think it does help improve promotion but also keeps your dudes happy and less likely to radicalize and join rebels.

>>166828013
Military budget up to 50% increases soldier promotion, anything beyond that is only for officers

>>166828035
>>166828220
I suppose. since I'm probably going to try to stay confined to Gotland (possible Bornholm depending on how my demense limit looks) it'd be really nice to also be able to hold the cities without penalties, not to mention the huge bonuses from the mansion and trade posts, but I'm not sure if I want to deal with the initial hassle of the elections.

so i'm playing bohemia in ck2 and now i'm in a position where people want to make me emperor and i just want to keep my small kingdom. is there a good way of dissuading people from voting for me except for kiilling them?

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Hopefully Aragon won't become a Republic like Milan did last time I got this event

Somebody host an MP game, SIM are you around?

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ayy

>inb4 shitskin
Was from a royal concubine, next in line is white :^)

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It meant I just need to conquer rome now, but I might not be able to claim Rome

alright blokes...

How do I solve Japans money problem in EUIV in the beginning? I already shut off two castles, but still am in the red. Has is something to do with my vassals?

>>166828846
Yep can't fabricate a claim, but it's still 18 years until I need this done

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>mfw people play as fr*nce

is the current version of eu4 fucked? all AIs are deep in debt

>>166829317
Oy vey

>>166828816
>allowing your own shitskin rapebabies to inherit the throne
shitskin

redpill me on the seven years war

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>>166828816
oh no

MP when?

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Kind of feel like I should keep the capital in Florence when I form Italy since Rome is a shithole by comparison.

>>166829870
Sad!

>>166829870
well then make Rome great again

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Ever seen anything worse than this France, lads? The sad part is that de Valois died out in the 15th century and France was ruled by de Trastamara.

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>>166829571
Oh shiet, we're on par with Venice, Constantinople, Brugge and Paris now

>>166830224
>Burgundy exists
>No de Bourgogne on the throne
Is it me, or does the event where someone inherits burgundy never happen anymore.

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I predict Castille will drop from this crucial war, France will then join, and once France has finished raping me I'll be the lesser part of PU with Spain

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>chaos
What did it mean by this?

>>166831130
>play meme mod
>get meme'd on

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>tfw I discover I have a vassal I didn't even know about.

I only noticed this now because I saw them being seiged. And they've been here for a long time too. LOL.

Somebody host

Does giving the Pope Rome back remove any aggresive expansion I got from annexing it?

>>166831776
Are you blind, ignorant, or have the situational awareness of of a sloth?

yeehaw

Provence ot excomunicated. Can I attack them without dragging England into a war? It´s other ally Siena is managable, I just don´t want the anglo after me this early.

>>166812404
White

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>>166833064
Forogot pic.

>>166832569
All of them perhaps? It's odd that they've been there for so long without me noticing.

>>166832297
nope

>Siena taking Umbria made the Pope join a trade league
>trade league has 5 members
Oh this going to be fun, still 12 years to go atleast

>>166833274
You normally get a message regarding Ansbach once your starting ruler dies. SInce the Albrecht Achilles of Hohenzollern rules Ansbach and inherits Brandenburg once his father dies. Around 1450 - 60.

>>166831776
Brandenburg is nearly guaranteed to get a union on them.

>get Hungary ready for war
>Hungary does not owe you 10 favours
U SRS game?

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>>166819281
>Patagonia and half of Japan have no winter

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>>166820517
Persia, definitely.

>>166834087
>winter
>right below the equator.
fucking kys

>>166834482
>deserts are those sandy places

>>166822665
>taking all of Jujuy instead of just Santa Rosa and your cores
Delete your game, uninstall.exe, reinstall and start it all over again

is there a mod for EU4 that basically changes the whole world into colonisable land (so that there are just tribes on the whole map, and no european nations etc? preferably with random generation of the land)

would love to play more random games of EU4 that maybe play a bit more like CIV

>>166823695
How the fuck do you manage to make glass profitable in HPM?

>>166833449
>>166833953
I see. This is my first brandenburg game ever. I guess the best way to make use of them is to feed them?

Is the newest HPM 3.6.1 or is there a download from the (recent?) update?

>>166827351
>vanilla flags
Fucking Paradox.

>>166835249
The newest is the one in his pastebin always.

>>166824839
How could one play with "planed economy" with country as big as Russia, it feels like it needs absurd amount of micro in managing all that factories in all that states.

>>166835421
You just have to spent life half an hour setting up the factories, after that you just open the tab and shift-upgrade them once or twice a year.

>>166835205
Yeah. But try to integrate them into Brandenburg. They´re normally in an PU with Brandenburg if Bayern didn´t get in the way. Ansbach is also a good starting point for expansion in south germany.

Yay have to wait 4 years to get an ally so this Papal trade league doesn't rape me butt

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>>166835603
Yes, they are in a PU with me. And I will integrate them after I fed them some land, sounds good?

As someone who I presume have played a lot of brandenburg or HRE games, what do you reckon I should to do now? I have too much AE to start annexing more right now.

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>>166817597
>She's a coalburner

Is Sim dead?

>>166836690
It's always weird to see Arumba's face when I know from his voice that he should not look like this.

>>166836859
Should his voice be deeper, in your head? I imagine him with Stone Cold Steve Austin's voice.
Maybe he should take up smoking.

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To anyone who understand the fort system better than me:

Do these forts make sense or should I make changes / delete some? Circle the ones I should delete with red and put green circles where I should put forts.

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>>166836859
>>166837161
He looks like an honest, left leaning man who's wife would cheat on him, leading to divorce, leading to alcoholism and eventually suicide.

>>166837161
I don't know. To me it's more how his face looks and not so much how his voice is like. I heard his voice for a long time without knowing how he looked like. But now that I saw his face, he didn't suit the voice at all. It's funny how your mind play ticks on you like this, because it's utterly ridiculous that I should have some kind of notion on how his face should look like based on his voice.

really made me think lads

>>166837170
yeah there are some problems with your forts m8. you should always leave 1 province between forts or the enemy can just walk over them as if there was nothing there

>>166812404
Based

>>166837170
I don't know how so many people have such issues with this. Forts protect all surrounding provinces and only the surrounding provinces, the surrounding provinces are in a "zone of control", meaning that if they're taken then they will revert back to the rightful owner if the fort protecting them isn't sieged. So forts bordering each other are retarded, but it can cost more to delete them and BUILD THE WALL somewhere else, meaning it can just make more sense to keep them.

If I were you I'd delete the one in south west Bohemia, unless you feel you need the extra defence, as all the provinces bordering prague are auto defended.

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>>166837353
>>166836859
Does this match up closer?

>just want to play a cross between V2 and CK2 set in early modern era Europe
>doesn't exist
>think about making my own GSG
>realize how many gorillion hours it will take to make it good
>go back to reading articles on Wikipedia to satisfy my autism
Every time

>>166837308
If he stayed in insurance and made a decent living off of it, instead of playing video games I would not buy what you just said. But he plays video games for a living, and many women (I imagine) would think of that as a bit silly perhaps.

>>166837373
What did

>>166837703
>>just want to play a cross between V2 and CK2 set in early modern era Europe

This sounds awful. Literally /r/paradoxplaza the /gsg/ game. Neck yourself.

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>play gross byzantiums
>conquer the lake
>try to restore rome
>this decision is there instead

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>>166837837
This
Don't you see it?

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>>166837353
MS paint draw what he should look like, in your mind.

Here's mine.

>>166838113
>Vikings that converted to Christianity would still go on murdering randoms while simultaneously believing in God and Christian morality

Really greases my gears

>just want to play a cross between V2 and EUIV set in early modern era Europe
>doesn't exist
>think about making my own GSG
>realize how many gorillion hours it will take to make it good
>go back to reading articles on Wikipedia to satisfy my autism
Every time

>>166838113
vikings werent white

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>>166838647
iktf anon

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>>166838113
my ancestor..

In my game Luxembourg is 24% Wallonian

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>>166838149
Here.

what is it called when you feel like you were born in the wrong time period?

>just want to play a cross between Aurora and Sengoku Rance set in near future Earth
>doesn't exist
>think about making my own >G>S>G
>realize how many gorillion hours it will take to make it good
>go back to reading articles on Wikipedia to satisfy my autism
Every time

>becuase I asked Hungary to prepare for war they wouldn't accpet the call when they could
>waiting until '84 to have enough favours to get the weaker Milan in
>heir died and King is 69
Just fucking gr8 m8
>venetian rebels in 2 years

Is CK2 still worth playing? I got tired of Darkest Hour for now, and I always liked the human interaction part of CK a lot, but a lot of the recent reviews say that updates and new DLC completely ruined the balance/fun. It discourages me from reinstalling it, and I don't want to play an old version knowing that there's more content. Are they overreacting? Is the game still playable for a casual gsg player?

>>166839661
If you don't like Conclave, disable it. If you like minmaxing, leave it on.

>>166839791
Last time I played was around 2013 and haven't followed on the news & don't know any details yet. Only the general dislike.

>>166839661
you can dissable most of the retarded shit they added while keeping the fun stuff

>>166839661
Yes it's very playable. I think it's great to be honest.

>>166839864
Reaper's Due is good, Conclave is hit or miss. Just try it with and without.

>>166839884
>>166839948
>>166840001
Alright, thanks. Reinstalling. The mod repo in OP is up to date?

>>166839596
and i got fucking excommunicated

>>166840113
i believe so. but im not completly sure.

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Alright, lads, what is to be done with the Japanese?

>>166840524
Southern

>>166840524
Whatever nets you both Kyoto and Edo. Hit em where it hurts.

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What idea should I take first? I´m expanding a bit before the Shadow Kingdom event. Planning on expanding into the greek cores as Italy.

>>166840953
Offensive

>>166840953
How much do you plan to blob?
blob as much until 1821?
Just italy+greece?

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Hey my name is Freidrich III click here to find out how I boned by wife when I was 69, giggity
so close to being a 5/5/5

Is the Historical Great War mod guy here?

>>166812389
>DD38 - My kingdom for an interface
Wew, these are actual improvements, and not meme-tier $39.99 DLCs. It was about time they've implemented this stuff.

I hope this is the final DLC because I'm tired of having my favorite mods being constantly broken and having to reinstall the game every 2-3 months.

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>this culture map
epic, Bongs also completely survived like usual, although now it seems its a 50/50 chance for them with the changes I made.

>>166840953
Any reason why?

>>166841146
Italy and Greece. If I´m lucky, I try to get the european meditiranean coast.

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>>166836704
Zup lad.

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>>166840871
>>166840654
I realised I could sign a seperate peace with Ouchi and get pretty much all of Japan. It'll hit my hard in OE but it'll be right in 18 months, just a year and a half of meme events because they developers can't program properly and it'll be sound.

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>>166841190
finally, how long does it take for the 'give rome back' event take to fire?>

>>166840953
When I played savoy, I just took piedmont and sardinia, formed the neon blue country, blobbed into provence and sicily/corsica/baleares and made a comfy as fuck colonial power.

I formed italy the first time I played an italian nation, it's shit.

>>166842137
>146
lad you losing this game

>>166842252
very little

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>>166841723
Oh, good

Would you be willing to host a new version of zombiemod in like 2 hours? I think its finally ready for v.1, after which I'll start adding flavor instead of just base improvements.

>>166841484
>>166841484
Fairly small game so I guess you could skip influence/administration.
Offensive>Econ/Inno>Qual>Inno/Econ>Def

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>>166842452
filename

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Nice nameplacing Paracucks.

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>>166842548
>>166842452
Danke, interesting how the name changes

>>166842548
Wait for a pop up that asks for you to give back rome, I think.

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>>166842369
hmm

>>166842814
>>166842779
I did and the clergy still demands more land and I have the modifier saying I own rome

>>166843045
wait a month

>>166843045
overextension is gone but rome modifier is still there

>>166843169
>>166843164

>>166843169
and gone

I got the DLC via a russian steam_api hack, and it's just some guy guy singing by himself with a quiet piano in the back, anyone know what song it could be, or can I go into settings and find i, if so how

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Now the question is, lads, are the Nips white enough to become states and receive representation in the Italian parliament under His Majesty, the Emperor of Italy and her colonial holdings?

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ah Milan, the nation which changed monarchy to stop me inheriting, the nation that made me call it so late, and threatened to drop the allaince when I was trying to steal Rome's alliesk, but I'm sure I can trust the regency to you

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>>166843450
gas the chinks and replace them with sicilians so you don't have to deal with them in europe.

it'll be like a penal colony, it's a win/win

>>166843450
Yes, they should be a defacto protectorate, may the emperor's meet in holy unision

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My musical EU4-playlist that I use unironically put on the theme song of game of thrones-tvshow, as I was starting to look at the possibilities to claim a throne in my game.

>>166842472
What have you been doing to it? My primary problem was the game being rather uninteresting without population.

>>166835421
>>166835490
This. Most of the time machine parts, telephones, automoblies, aeroplanes, liquor, glass and tank factories are always very profitable, meaning most states will have the same factory setup.

I also went Soviet Union because it was interesting, not because it was optimal.

What do I need to revive Hellenism with Ancient Religions Reborn?

I'm already Italian but I get no events related to it. When I played as an Irish, I got the revival for Druidism right away.

Will I ever have more than 4 slots of acceptable cultures or do I have to take the humanism idea group in order to gain more of these slots?

>>166843763
>Game of Thrones
>EU4
kill yourself.

>>166843854
I made countries die off if they have less than 100 pops in their capital so people can actually colonize, I removed the core removal events because they just led to spaghetti in Europe, and I added events to give back life rating in provinces that lose it due to zombies. Plus really small countries with a fair amount of pops (But still below 1000) get a massive growth boost for a couple years that should get them on track. I also added suspending constitutions for closed borders if you would want it. I'll release the version soon too so you can test it.

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>>166844403
>tfw no buffy to do it for you

>tfw 60 year old king
>tfw lose excommunication but also emperorship upon death

>>166837170
Forts are a waste of money. Put a few at your periphery and defeat the AI by luring them into suicidal battles (and being fucking brandenburg)

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ZOMBIEMOD V.05

Base Game Edition

https://www.mediafire.com/?9rx79pblmh03l38

>>166844525
hey is it possible if you could nerf the 50% die off at the end of the event. Makes island retreats not as good. Also does it still affect countries that have no zombies on them even if they're islands?

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Besides bestowing imperial grace, improve relations, and sending them a gift, any other ways to help get re-elected
>>166844768

>>166845267
does it work with latest hpm?

Why does EUIV allow ridiculous ahistorical shit like the Ming forming Mughals or north american natives taking over mesoamerica and creating a nahuatal super religion at break neck speed.

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>>166843727
>>166843705
I'm basically playing as Japan with European colonies now.
going to ask afpg to make me a japano-italian flag

>tfw w&b