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Nekros edition
previous thread: >>166729883

>READ the pastebins BEFORE asking stupid questions
GENERAL FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wyz3Ye1g
Additional FAQ, SERIOUSLY, READ THIS ONE: http://pastebin.com/GHStmm22

>How to join Warbros No Fun Allowed, if it wasn't full: http://i.imgur.com/RMS2guW.png
>Avoid the line, join the /wfg/ alliance today! PM killsaw of Warbros NFA for inquiries


>Notable links
Essentials: http://deathsnacks.com/wf/index.html
Focus System: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Focus
Buying and Selling items: https://warframe.market
News: https://forums.warframe.com/forum/170-news-events/
Raid Setups and individual Builds:
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THE JORDAS VERDICT: http://pastebin.com/NLPSMBed
Damage 2.n: http://i.imgur.com/AFVavTs.jpg
Droptables and Data: https://github.com/VoiDGlitch/WarframeData
DPS calculator and weapon build planner: https://github.com/GottFaust/WWDC/releases/tag/0.8.2 (not maintained)
Top guns, read note at the bottom: http://i.imgur.com/wGxxMVo.jpg
Tierqueer Filters: https://git.io/vMhaS
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> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/738152-the-glast-gambit-update-195/
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> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/723544-the-war-within-1907-valkyr-prime/
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/wfg/ OP pastebin, if it's not like this one report it and make a proper one: http://pastebin.com/iAgtMahh
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remember to sage when you see dirty dirty tripfags about
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>you will never get john prodman's poster
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>>166794996
What does this facial expression mean?
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>>166794996
didn't they disable sah-gay a long time ago?
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Back 2 back Tripfag generals.

You all are some straight bitches.
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>>166795170
At least I'm not a gay bitch
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>>166795170
>>166795208
lol fags
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>>166795170
this is what happens when you gays dont pay attention to the post count, he waits so he can post the most homosexical thread
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>Bottom Left
NEVER EVER
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>>166796005
looks like trash
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>>166796005
nova asuri skin is JUST tier
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>do ayatan mission
>extract
>statue isn't in my inv
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>pocket sand lets you perform a finisher on almost all enemies in the index

oh god. how/what do i build into a finisher weapon?
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>>166795140
No, but it's bannable if you're announcing it
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>>166796097
You just have really bad taste.
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>2 hours of Elara
>no fucking Pathogen Rounds

:^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o! :^) Grind harder 10o!
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>>166795121
Trying to pull a Saryn, but won't be able to do so quietly.
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>>166796382
may i ask of whom are you quoting?
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>>166796326
Any dagger + Covert Lethality
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Is there a single viable weapon when it comes to index endurance? All mine do jack shit.
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>>166796375
its literally a fucking pokemon
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>>166796474
i have the red veil dagger. will that do?
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>>166796472
>>>/s4s/
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>still no grappler frame
>but like 4 summoners
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>>166796301
you can only do it once a week, any times after that you wont get a sculpture
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>>166796576
>i have the red veil dagger
>red veil dagger
>dagger

GEE I DUNNO MAN
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>>166796005
Gimme top-left helm on top-right body. Colored sets.
>>nova assuri fixed
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>>166796005
van helsing frame when
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So which is the better prime, hikou or spira?
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>>166796576
Literally any dagger so yes; unless they changed it recently pocket sand makes them 'un-alert' and able to be stealth killed so CL makes it insta-kill
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>>166796673
yeah but. is sheev better or something. i could always craft that
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>>166796515

Tigris P, Vaykor Hek, Hek, Tonkor, Synoid Simulor, CL Daggers.
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>>166796005
Bottom second to right is the best one there.
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>>166796690
As long as it's a Seras Victoria with His powers.
Or that immortalgerman trap
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>>166796719

Hikou are more easy to deal with but Spira can crit harder.

If Spira P didn't have that fucking stupid drill bit "blade" I'd recommend them without hesitation, but between the way they look and the targeting deviation the Hikou make a decent case for themselves.
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Is it easy to solo the Index Endurance?
Or does the point income for time redeemed with a low enemy count make it fucking stupid hard?

I've had a jokingly easy time with it so far otherwise solo, but having more players seems like it would make Endurance less problematic
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What kinda builds do you guys use on your equinox? right now im just running nuke maim build with range eff and duration but i wanted to try some different things
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>>166796727
Covert Lethality counts 'finisher' kills so any ground finisher and stunned condition 'stealth attack' works just fine. Anything that puts the enemy in a 'too busy to do shit and can be interacted with' state.

The mod is a godsend on some occasions
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Hand over the Forma!
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>>166796853
That's sort of the way I am leaning too. That and having to land a head shot to get better damage on subsequent shots kind of kills the spira for me. If it apply to the inital shot too, then it would not be so bad.
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New to Warframe, started like 4 days ago. I really like the starter bow especially for stealth but it's starting to become ineffective ever since Corpus missions and now especially in Mars missions. Should I try to make a new one?
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>>166796889
It gets stupid hard later since the enemies are going nuts while your specters walk up and slowly melee them. Basically giving free points and time unless you can intercept and kill them.
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Thought that was a female nekros what a dissapointment.
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>farm trace to charge a few Aklex riven
>as soon as I go to run them, no active Axi fissures
>go to farm some more trace
>6, 9, 11, 7, traces and 20 minutes down the drain
Fuck. Why did DE have to shit the bed and make trace alerts capped at FUCKING 10 TRACES. Should have been 100 or more.
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>>166796732
Rakta Dark Dagger is pretty much the way to go, so stick with that.

I need to get a Sheev but the invasions NEVER AWARD THEM like they said it could
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>>166797131
>invasions give weapon bits and bobs instead of the whole weapon
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>>166797065
You should be constantly upgrading weapons. Get them to 30 them move to the next one. Bows are pretty bad for the game in general, but if you want one anyway, shoot for the Dread, or trade for a Paris Prime. Dread is the better of the two, but untradeable.
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>>166797007
>Covert Lethality counts 'finisher' kills so any ground finisher
I have yet to have it insta-kill via ground finishers wiki agrees with me but is often wrong
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>>166797065
I switched to rifle after the paris, but if you like the projectiles try boltor. you get the blueprint pretty early on
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>>166796610
This is a feeling I never thought I'd have; I don't like it, take it back.
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>>166797083
>stupid hard later

How far in? I'm not going for the EPIC MEME poster, but I'd like time invested to match reward gained for it
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>>166796005
>mesa with any kind of coat
>never ever
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>no grappler frame
>but like 8 elementals
>you will never momentum bomb enemies that causes them to become projectiles
>you will never giant swing an entire room of enemies thanks to your maxed out momentum
>you will never press 4 and cause an autochain grapple similar to Ash's 4
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>>166797552
this is stupid and you should feel stupid
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>>166797641
fuck off steve
go make the third water warframe or something
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>>166797412
Well it all depends how lucky you get, if it's the easy teams with humanoids or the gay ass robot teams. Generally you know it's getting bad when the auditor one shots you no matter what and cannot be killed even by a valkyr going full spazz on it for five minutes. I just ignore anything I cannot lethal teleport.
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>>166796853
>>166797025

I still don't understand why they don't have convergence like (at the time) every other thrown secondary and to make it all the more confusing to me, they took away the convergence on the Despair at some point in the last few months but didn't change anything else on them.
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>>166797552
Most fun character I've ever played, at some point in the match you'd get so fast with so much damage boost you'd destroy people and get out before they even knew what him, his ult was god mode but the absurd amount of effects made it impossible to see, shame gearbox are liberal tards and killed the game before it began.
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>>166794638
Why would you use your trip to make an OP? It gets filtered and there's literally no purpose other than for attention.
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>all warframes are the same height
>they only look different because of animations

how lazy is DE
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>rakta dark dagger doesn't make your model slightly transparent
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>>166798058
Filters ignore the OP by default. I checked both the native and 4chanX filters.
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>>166798224
how about you stop being a fag-king and just remove your trip, there is literally no reason for it
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>>166794638
Yo asshat, either quit being an asshat so people wont fucking filter you or don't use your trip to make the thread. I have been thinking that the thread died for some time now because of your shitposting on /tfg/.
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>>166798086
>>all warframes are the same height
But they're not.

Saryn is hella taller than Manlet Vauban.
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>>166797851
I remember balling out of control and getting to the point of having attack speed so high once I got in it was a teamwipe
really a shame El Dragon is stuck in Battleborn, I enjoyed him

oh and one of the few moba heroes to extend a voice clip based on your killstreak
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>>166798284
only because his animations have him hunched over, use any that make him stand upright and he's the exact same height.
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>No corrosive frame
>No gas frame
>No blast frame
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>>166798350
Really wish there were more characters like him, bomb king is the closest you can get hope hi-rez doesn't flop paladins
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anyone have that image of a player posting his opinion on warframe forums and he got banned shortly afterwards?
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>>166798518
Shes slightly taller, she makes frost look like a midget snu snu frame.
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>>166798518
>Vauban slightly closer to the screen

555-Come on now
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>>166798591
that happens every day, it's going to happen more now
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>>166798546
>no stand frame
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>>166798759
What is chroma what is atlas.
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>tfw no Wind-based Warframe
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>>166798759
>instead of stands to go along with our frames we got potatoes
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>>166798813
>Tornado
>Turbulence
>Tailwind
?
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>>166799052
you can't just mention wind based things like that
someone might actually believe theres a wind based warframe
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>>166798847
Wouldn't the frame be the stand then?
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>>166798752
except he's not
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>>166798224
No the fucking don't you mongoloid, otherwise nobody would be complaining about it.
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>>166799327
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>>166798697
>>166798752
>The frame with a slender profile looks taller than the frame with a stockier profile

They're the same height, it's all animations and proportions.
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>>166798753
but there is this one legendary post of some guy having trouble typing in English but lays out all the reason why warframe is a shit game. its really old and i would not be surprised if he was the first to start the meme.
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>dread riven
>+status chance, multishot, zoom

Is this good? Zoom feels useless. Status is ok I suppose.
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>>166799397
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>>166799169
I suppose so, but since we already have the potato float around us whenever we cast 5, they seemed more stand-like. Shame.
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>>166798591
>>166799451
This?
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>>166799559
he's retarded and won't answer anything about why he even has a fucking trip, he's literally only posting with it for attention. I say it almost every thread he's in, if we ignore him completely without replying to any posts he makes EVER he'll go away.
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>>166799517
Status and multi both let you proc bleeds more often, but you can still try to reroll it.

>>166799641
Does that work with TQ?
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>>166799687
it works with anyone who does something excessive for attention
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>>166799641
It's just annoying because he isn't just contained to this thread. He branches out with his trip to get attention.
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>>166799559
>by default
If you modify them to hide OPs too then that is on you.
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i have one slot left on my Rakta Dark Dagger and was thinking of slotting it with Life Strike. using Inaros with it. does channeling efficiency really matter all that much? are you supposed to channel whilst stealth killing int he first place? i'm guessing not.
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>Preach about the importance of ignoring tripfags while throwing a shitfit about tripfags

Why do you faggots keep doing this?
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>bought a few relics to get the aklex parts
>join random axi fissures for traces
>immediately get link and bp from randos

I'm dumb
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Inaros Prime when

;__;
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>>166799893
put your trip back on
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>>166799806
I never really bother with channeling except when I am using it to heal with lifestrike. Efficiency doesn't really matter since you should not be using it constantly, and should avoid most mods that rely on it.

>>166799893
This. Just filter me if you dislike me, leave the OP settings at default, and we are all happier for it. You don't have to see any of my posts in the thread, and I don't have to put up with your autistic shitposting.
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>>166799687
TQ is at least entertaining sometimes with how delusional he is.
GKL is just bad.
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>>166799979
when did he come out in relation to other frames?
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>>166800047
You really should clean the shit off your nose before saying other people smell bad.
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>farming lith fissure
>drop beserker AND tempo royale
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how much would a tonkor riven with 111% damage increase 33% magazine capacity increase and -30% flight time increase cost ?
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>>166800047
Why do you use a trip though? Just curious.
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>>166800167
>>166800206

see >>166799641
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>>166799979
Are you implying the honest merchant Baro was just leading us to a bootleg mummy and not the real thing?
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>>166799806

No point putting Life Strike on a dagger for Inaros. One of his passives is life regain on finishers any way.
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>>166799925
same issue here, should have gotten the syandana but oh well
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>>166799742
I think TQ legitimately thinks he's trying to help, he's just shit at doing it and doesn't realize it.
GKL just tripfags for literally no reason other than attention.
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>>166800312
my main intention of using the thing was going to be index endurance
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anyone have a hikou prime star they could sell? drop ign
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>>166800429
which has enemies you cannot use that ability on*
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>>166800502

Oh.

That being the case I'd really weigh up the benefits of the Rakta's awareness debuff (assuming it even works in the Index or Rathuum) against the power of a crit weapon. If I were you I'd even look at using the Hirudo for the free life strike on a crit weapon.
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how to be cancer:

>play frost
>play mirage with simulor
>be TQ
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>>166796610
>the closest to a martial art frame is atlas oraoraoras as a single ability
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>>166800480
BPNPC
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>>166800480
Conciliun
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>>166801048
Frost can actually be good if he is being used by someone with an IQ larger than their shoe size, which just rules out pugs.
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>we'll interrogate the captive back at base

where
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>>166799590
YES THANKYOU
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>>166801187
the door on the right
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>>166801187

>officially the Lotus and Tenno do not condone torture
>that is outsourced to the Edge Veil at relays instead
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>>166800480
Doctor_Darling
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Daily reminder that the Lotus is the villain and you need to reject the brainwashing she has instilled in your Tenno.
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>Had stockpiled several barrels and receivers for a while, but didn't sell them for ducats for some reason.
>Suddenly everybody wants lex parts for obvious reasons.
>mfw
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>>166801417
>Daily reminder that the Lotus is the villain
So are the 10-o.
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>>166801486
They weren't until the Lotus used them to slaughter the Orokin and never turned off their brainwashing so they follow her like mindless sheep so she can pretend she's their mommy. Wake up from the dream within the dream. Reject her.
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>>166801417
Go back to the void Vor, nobody remembers you after the rework.
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>some idiot in my dead clan somehow managed to get scammed out of all of his mods
Is this even fucking possible or is he just trying to get attention?
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>>166801568
As if DE would let us ditch space mommy. That'd hurt becca's feelings and we can't have that.
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>>166801417
but space mom gives me everything, all have to do it murder people
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>>166801627
you can only sell 5 mods at a time AFAIK, he probably just wants attention
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>>166801568
They were even worse under the Orokin, and who knows what they would do if unshackled.

They went to hell, made a deal with the devil, became demons, and even the infested fear them.
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quanta vandal is so fucking shit
I didnt expect the weapon to be this bad
wasted ducats
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>>166801640
I understand that so it confuses me as to why they write her to so obviously be in a villainous role at all times. It isn't hard to see. Literally everything is her fault.

Becca's like the one cool member of the team and gets shit done, I could see her being fine with the changes. The Lotus is a ruthless tyrant and it'd be cool to have some sort of Horde vs Alliance system in the game. I'd much rather pal up with Teshin or go rogue with Ordis than continue to serve her
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>>166801797
ur so fucking shit n00b
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>>166801417
>/wfg/ still incapable of nuance
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Y/N?
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>>166797271
>>166797341
Bows aren't good? How about sniper rifles? Are there any good ones I can aim for this early on?
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>>166802278
ye
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>>166802278
M
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>>166802280
Snipers are also sort of shit. The general rule is that if it can't quickly tear up a large group in seconds, it's a bad weapon. AOE and damage that is easily spreadable through high fire rate are king in this game due to the nature of combat.
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>>166802280
Anything that isn't an assault rifle, launcher, or shotgun is basically shit. This is a horde game and snipers are even worse at that than bows.
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>>166802280
Bows and snipers are both bad in this game. It is a horde game. You are most often fighting large groups of enemies in small rooms so slow firing weapons tend to be bad, unless they have and AoE, and snipers never really become useful because you almost never end up in places that can put their advantages to use.
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hang in there
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where 2 farm da creds
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>>166798546
Blast frame is Banshee basically.
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>>166802706
Index
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>>166802757
Oh god I am truly awful at index please be joking
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>>166802798
easiest credits of my life. seriously, just form a loadout you enjoy for it and never worry about credits again. the thrill of potentially losing them (though miniscule) enhances the experience
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Do I need the ice nerd for this one or does shield damage not count?
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>>166802843
do you solo the index?
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>>166803087
yes
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>>166802890
shield damage counts, just use booben or frost, ez
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>>166802843
DREAD IS NOT GOOD FOR THE INDEX, HELP I AM LOSING CASH FAST
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>>166803275
Try again, 10o!
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>>166803347
HELP MY MONEY IS BEING JEWED AWAY FROM ME
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>>166803275
How? Do you have no mods on it?
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So, who was the true Jude?
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>>166803389
you have to legitimately get good. study the enemies, figure out how to take em down and build around that
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>>166803408
guy on the bottom got the better end of the deal. that trade is 100p on top and 50p on the bottom
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>>166803532
Strange. I've seen deals for Aklex Link only for about 70-80 pl.
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>>166802401
>>166802431
>>166802468
Ah, okay. Is the Zhuge a good weapon? I like how it looks especially since I might try to grind for Ivara and I have almost all of the ingredients for it already.

Also, is stealth actually important? I always try to stay out of sight but it seems like the only benefits of stealth are affinity bonuses from stealth kills and not being swarmed by enemies.
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>>166803680
yes
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anyone want to farm
>void traces?
saving up to radiant a bunch of axi a2 relics.
(the baro lex prime relics)
IGN the_docter0406
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>>166803753
you're still dumb
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>>166803680
It's basically an assault rifle crossbow. It's pretty good.
You don't really have to bother with stealth. I farmed my Ivara with a Hek. As long as you don't trip any alarms in the vault it doesn't matter how loud you are. Ideally by endgame you want to be going through missions as fast as possible, especially if you're farming Ivara.
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>>166803895
dont get how.
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>>166803680
stealth helps a lot if you're speedrunning, since enemies won't be in your way/shooting at you.
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>>166803408
The bottom guy, ya drongo.
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>>166803389
Get ash, lethal teleport anything that dies from it, stay cloaked. Win all the things.
DO NOT ENGAGE THE AUDITOR OR THE RAPTOR
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>>166803405
Here is my dread. I was trying to use artemis which is effective with its puncturing damage compared to the dread's slash, but I have found that ivara's sleep arrows and finishers are highly effective.
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wish inaros had more augments
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>>166804067
>piercing hit
>sawtooth clip
>unmaxed Vital Sense
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>>166804067
At least max your basic fucking damage mods first man.
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>>166804067
>serration not maxed
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>>166803680
>Also, is stealth actually important?
No.
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>>166804240
costs cash I don't have, this is why I needed cash in the first place damn it.
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>>166804067
>Piercing hit
>Sawtooth clip
This has to be b8
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>8.3x crit multiplier on my Aksomati
Index watch out.
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>>166804657
it just works
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>>166804335
Wanna join me for a game? I can run you through silver easily as long as you don't die. Or die near me for free points.
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>joined the game too late
>loki prime will only unvault when the heat death of the universe occurs
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Any recommendations for a good assault rifle to use until I can get run axi relics and complete my burston prime?

I've been using Hek from mastery 4-5, but I don't have pierce through for my shotguns yet so it's annoying to deal with a lot of enemies.
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>>166804774
Nah, I'll just keep fucking around with my bow mods until I learn what's what, I won't learn much if I have someone else do everything for me
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>>166804067
why do all of your builds have to be trash man
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>>166804969
Wait "all" my builds? have I posted any of my build before?
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>>166804943
Alright, just figured you could learn the bullshit of the enemies without losing cash. Just a few tips, never fight the Auditor inside the hallway on the snow map, shoot those blue teleporter circles on the ground or Ohma chick will come out and insta gib you. Never carry a fuck ton of points unless you have human teammates around, cash that shit if losing it would mean defeat.
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hehe
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>>166805076
Thanks, man
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>>166804058
but you starts with 0 energy
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>>166805652
And this is preventing you from finding energy?
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>Trying to sell a Red Veil and Steel Meridian weapon
>Someone pms me
>I'll trade you the Lecta for a Rakta dagger and Vaykor pistol
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>>166805652
ZENURIK
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how much can i jew this for, tenons?
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>>166805901
ill give you any perrin weapon for the meridian pistol or melee
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>>166806051
Sorry, buddy. Sold them off.

I'll have another one in a few days.
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>>166806206
fug..
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>>166805901
That would have been a great deal a few weeks ago.
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>use unstuck command
>it gets me stuck
>wait 5 mins and use it again
>stuck again somewhere else

WHY DO I EXPECTANYTHING ELSE REEEEEEEEE
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>want jew cape
>need 400k more credits
I know that it would only take an hour or so on the index, but man. I fucking detest grinding the index. It's easy as piss but it stresses me out for no reason.
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>>166806831
It's boring and you have credits at stake. That's why you get stressed out.
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>sold weapon a while ago
>get mod way later that I think would really help it
>scramble to make weapon
this is why I am broke
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Newfriend here, does a lens get destroyed if you forma an item?
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>>166807163
No. But you will gain no focus until polarised item is 30 again.
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>>166807072
yeah, I guess the thought of having to do it even more than I already have to is what makes it stink. It would help if there were more than two maps to it.
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>>166807198
OK, thanks
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>greater naramon lens
is this worth selling, can it be sold?
i'm already zenurik so unless they rework focus and make it useless i don't need anything else
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>>166807459
Fairly certain you can't sell greater lenses.
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>Kraken Riven

I'd rather fucking 2k endo.
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>>166807550
what the fuck
i'd ask "why not" but i know there's no answer
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>>166807731
The answer is just that DE sells them on the market for 40 plat.
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>>166796382
Why not just farm Captain Vor?
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>>166796382
>2 hours
>grind
No, 2 hours - it's a small run. Grind - it's when you constantly slash weapon nekros party surv after surv for 2 hours every at least 3-4 surves per day through a week. Then it's grind. Otherwise it's just "i wanna everything just fall in my hands instantly" whine.
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>want ayatan
>get riven
why are sorties such shit?
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>>166807731
Because DE know that most people who still care about focus will have a frame they use to farm it, so any greater lenses they get would be trading fodder. So they just left in the stupid crafted versions instead.
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>>166808198
Cause riven can be sold with platinum ,while ayatan - no.
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>>166808248
I'm not sure what you're implying, you can totally sell ayatans for plat. the ones not from the sortie are cheap as shit, and the sortie one will get there quick too, but you can sell them.
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>Kuva Fortress Spy missions
Kinda shitty that there's no decent shortcuts for most of the vaults
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>AkLex do not have an innate polarity

>captcha: angers pain
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>kuva fortress assault
why can't there be more missions like this?
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>>166808623
>>166808881
>Sortie Kuva Fortress Defense
Limbo does nothing
Frost does nothing
Traps kill you and the operator in seconds
Figure it out
Yes I know there's the cheese strat hush.
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>>166808754
More stuff for you to do :)
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>>166808881
Why would you want to do so much for so little?
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>>166808302
>I'm not sure what you're implying,
Who the hell are going to buy Ayatan? They're somehow good instant endo, yet there's rathuum for endo. And rivens always could be sold.
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>>166809020
Or you just switch teleport the target into the hallway you came out of and funnel all enemies into one place.
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>>166808754

Wait, aklex prime? did they add a fucking prime obtained via baro?
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>>166809898
yep
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>>166809898
no, you have to farm relics for it
baro has a relic containing all the pieces for it though
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So when do relics rotate out?
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*THUMP*


*CRACK*
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>>166809359
or radproc the turrets
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>>166810337
They do shit for damage, tho.
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>>166810184
*UNZIPS*
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is this aklex p shit good af?
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>backstabbing fun times in the index
>nidus player in group
>just does that weird cc ability that pulls everyone into a ball and keeps shooting shit at them
>nobody can get points and I cannot backstab anyone while they are in it
>just camp one enemy until we get the minimum amount to win
Just barely, if not for valkyr going ape shit that ball of meat nobody would ever respawn.
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so in the middle of a relic run
>axi a2
after an aklex prime bp.
my first gf i had in life looked at me on a dating site, i spent the next ten minutes having an absurd heartrate and i couldnt even focus on the game.
Got the bp though. fuck today honestly.
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is covert lethality dagger loki better than say, galatine prime/war loki?
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>>166811680
>using loki without redeemer
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>>166811915
Isn't an instant kill better than a non instant kill?
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>>166811959
instant kills are boring
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>>166811959
redeemer can annihilate a squad if modded properly as it also have an innate punchthrough
i am biased af but redeemer is fucking satisfying
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>>166812057
>going nothin personel on the enemy isn't fun
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>>166812090
That's more understandable, though I prefer explosives for killing crowds.
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What are riven values like? Is it feasible I could trade a latron mod for a gorgon mod?
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What's the best most universal syandana? Can't find the right one they all look like they're sticking out or just oddly out of place
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>>166812706
Yomo, cheap ninja faux-scarf.
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>>166810786
its about as good as the regular lex, just different. higher ammo capacity and fire rate, but longer reload and slighly less accurate. its mostly about preference.
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How many Rivens do I need to unveil before I get ANYTHING remotely good
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>>166813154
You're doing it wrong. You need to reroll the ones you have a couple of dozen times, keep grinding Kuva and buying those resource boosters.
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>>166810184
>Those amazing sound effects when it charges something
>That screen shake
>Almost always sends the wave of enemies launched straight up into the air

by far the most satisfying pet
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Also what the fuck can I do with these
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>>166812804
The regular Aklex is perfectly accurate on every single shot; the numbers mean nothing. If the Primed variant is the same then it is better in every single way unless you prefer Mesa's single handgun passive.
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Can the Radiation Hazard kill the Defense Target in the Sortie?
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>mfw legit selling lex prime sets for 50p a pop now with people going insane over aklex
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>>166811915
I use glaive prime with my loki.
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>relics are bought separately
Is the fucking thing even worth the trouble?
Also where is my fucking Akvasto Prime, Steve?
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>>166814428
>Worth
No, plenty of pubbies are still running those

>Akvasto
Soonâ„¢
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>dump 50k ayatan on Maroo
>"Whoa, what a haul! It must've taken you forever to fill these with stars."
Does she always say that or just when you dump a load of stuff on her?
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>>166814851
I gave her two once and got that line but then another time she gave me shit about not putting stars in them when I gave her five complete vara statues, so who the hell knows.
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>Pathogen rounds only drops from Anti-Moas

why
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>>166815898
Because you haven't bought enough plat.
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Is the aklex even worth it? Slow reload and only 16 rounds
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>>166816612
No, but retards are going nuts over it

On another subject, why are trade chat users such fucking cancer? If you don't like my prices I'm always up for offers, and how the fuck am I being "greedy" when the demand exists and there are people are willing to pay the plat I post in the trade chat?
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What's a good spot for trying to reach extreme run speeds? preferably a capture mission where I can just run one straight line.
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>tfw you don't have a good enough weapon or mods to make full use of melee
>so wukong's 4 isn't useless yet
>it's actually really good for people wanting to do full melee

Only thing I really hate about it are nullifiers forcing you to go through weapon switch animation, where you can't actually do anything. Not even cast Defy if you're still in the middle of it.
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>>166816793
>why are trade chat users such fucking cancer?

I dunno. I got told to kill myself a few times when I lowballed some offers as well so it's not always the buyers that go full retard either.

>>166816612
Rivens exist and aklex rivens have a stronger disposition, so if you have a riven it'll be better.

If you don't, well... it's still two fucking LexP's. It's a good sidegrade, though it'll require 1 more forma than LexP.

That being said, it's not something like Galatine Prime.
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What's a good Impact-based melee weapon? The 'best' ones are all slash/puncture, but I need an impact one.
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>>166817985
>but I need an impact one.

No you don't.
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>>166817985
Fragor Prime, Jat Kittag, War
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>>166818196

Yeah I do.
Because Wukong's staff scales with impact, in case you didn't know. The most impact damage you have, the most it scales with it and the stronger it becomes. A lot of people seem to overlook this simple mechanic.
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>>166818686
It only scales with mods you have equipped
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>>166818686
I'm curious as to how you've come about that, near as I've seen it functions like every other exalted weapon; your (melee) weapon's stats don't factor into it, only equipped and applicable mods.
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>Run axi relics to mooch off people opening aklex's
>Nobody is actually even opening aklex relics, it's just people trying to mooch off others who might be
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I want to thank 80plat guy. You are beautiful ;)
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>>166818934
yes but if you're going to be pumping it full of impact mods, you'd ideally want an impact weapon that would benefit from that, so it's not just a stat-stick but a weapon that can do good if you're out of energy or not using the exalted weapon at the time.

That or the anon is just retarded and doesn't understand exalted weapons.
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>>166819085
But if you're going to equip a melee weapon for the expressed purpose of turning it into a vehicle for the expand dong staff then why would the vehicle's base stats matter in the first place? Of course one can use the melee itself when not jabbing the ever livin' shit out of units with the power pole sure but again, why bother if you've built towards prominent use of the golden rod of a monkey god?

And this is setting aside the point that IPS mods are outclassed even by singular elements 90% of the time. I think he's just genuinely confused about it.
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Trying to get 3 Cephalonia scans on Mars to unlock the next planet. I thought I got 25 scanners from a previous mission so I scanned a Kuria and now I don't have any and I need to pay 500 platinum for more. Is this normal?
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>>166819363

Credits, anon. Those three squares are credits, not platinum.
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Banshee is done in one hour.

What am I in for?
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>>166819663
pretty much shit.
She's got a great kit but it's not particularly easy to mod for or use.
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>>166819334
I think they want the most min-maxing possible, so in the odd case when they're somehow out of energy, but still need to beat the everliving shit out of something, they want a backup meelee that can still preform with optimal modding. Ultimately uneeded, but if you're not grinding peak performance things in warframe why farm at all.


personally I just made a bright red bo-prime to use as backup because his power pole looks like absolute shit. And most of it's combos are hilarious, but bad.
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>>166818973

Why would you EVER run Axi A2 not on radshare when Baro's still around? It takes about 2.1seconds between posting "H Axi A2 rad" and getting 28 whispers for invite.
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>>166819725
>he doesn't know
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>>166819663
there is 2 build worth using:
with her sonar (2) wich scale on power strenght
and with her quake (4) wich need range/efficency and the syndicate mod to work
her 4 does the job well in deffence, but it's boring
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>>166819981
I'm opening leftover axi trash hoping other people will be aboard the aklex meme bandwagon

problem is, everyone else doing random relics also had the same idea as me, so every mission ends with all four of us realizing we all had the same shit idea, and opening a big pile of trash.
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>>166820071
Bring relics with lex parts then, it's more profitable to move lex p sets
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>>166819987
> This meme
No.
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Should I buy the abrasys sydana? Looks like a classic cape and cheap. Or do you guys not use capes? Also what should the best animation for females?
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>>166820426
>Females
Best animations for guys and girls are Mesa and Mirage Noble.
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What's Trinity's dump stat?
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>>166820935
Duration, if Leech Build.
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>>166820935
Duration
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>>166820935
depends, check the guide

it's not always duration
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>>166820935
depends, what build you want to play, the mana bitch one, or the blessing one?
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>>166820426
Atlas Agile for females is pretty rad
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Shit...
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>>166821141
If you're that tard who keeps pushing his stupid guide, you don know it's never posted in the thread right?
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>Extract at 59 minutes, and 57 seconds
Whoops
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>>166821508
>he STILL doesn't have a link to the guide
kek

guess you want to stay a shitter 4ever
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>>166821812
But if I want the info in your guide I can just go to the wiki :^)
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>>166819725
Dying to lvl 10 enemies
Banshee is so fucking weak
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Why are we so mean?
:^(
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>>166821940
Dear RogueMissile,

Fuck you shit eating faggot, go puke abortions down your sister's throat.

Regards
Tenno
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>>166821940
the fuck is a rogue missle
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>>166821940
I'm not mean ;_;
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whenever I think about the relic grind I think about quitting this game desu
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I want to join "Warbros No Fun Allowed" RIGHT FUCKING NOW
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>>166822440
Dicklisted.
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Why the fuck does this Machete Wraith suck dogshit the normal one is beastly
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>>166822519
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>>166822040
>>166822083
>tfw that's me (pic related)
>tfw I made my account at 14 and used a stupid username
>tfw I haven't got enough money to change it
>tfw people told me to fuck off when I applied for the /wfg/ clan
>tfw you don't want a reddit tier clan
>tfw you just want to play this game with other people

End my suffering please
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Uh guys

I just realized

I wanted to forma my volt not because it'd be superduper insane vs sorties or endless runs but because it'd be fun.

what the fuck is wrong with me how can I still enjoy this shitty game send he;lp
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>>166822637
Where the fuck do I start with this disgusting mess

Is this bait
I can't tell

Someone help there is no way this is that bad ironically
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>>166822637
Updated as that pic is a few days old

>>166822754
I'M SORRY I HAVEN'T PLAYED IN 2 YEARS I CAME BACK LAST WEEK

I'M SORRY
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>>166822440
why
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>>166822797
Wait...how old are you again
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>>166822797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCiFO7qV54E
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Speedy frame with a lightning motif when?
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>>166823342
I'm 18, I'M NOT EDGY I SWEAR

>>166823378
leave me alone LEAVE ME ALONE
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>>166823226
because I want to play with other 4chan users
>>
>>166823842
why
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>>166823842
>4chan users

Please fuck off back to the forum
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>>166823895
because the people in this vg seem fun

>>166823898
never been on them
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>>166823702
Never, that sounds like a terrible idea.
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how pathetic can you be that you can't even get into Warbros? Reddit users really lack smarts
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>>166824003
they just told me to fuck off and not join warbros prime

my cipher time was 8s but I haven't played in ages and I know it's better than that. All my stats are from 2 years ago
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>>166824003
I have been on and off here for a long time, and not once have thought about joining.

I don't get either...

Failed applications are always funny too
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>>166824101
That you took them at their word is just further reinforcing that you don't really belong here. It's not even a 'muh sekret club' kind of deal either, just the simple notion that a regular would have recognized it for what it was and ignored it.
>>
>>166824415
Of course I know they were just being pricks

I just don't know how to get better, so I'm annoyed. I haven't been looking into /wfg/ for a long time since I only recently got into the game but I've been using this site for about 2 years (still a newfag or whatever) and I know how people are

I just want to be in an active clan because I'm basically playing this game in single player mode
>>
>>166824750
why the fuck do you write these longass posts my man just go join some other clan my dude you type like you're expecting sympathy or something
>>
Warbros is dead as fuck, yet they still insist on these joining requirements
>>
>>166825230
You're writing something and I'm replying, I don't get why in the fuck you should get annoyed at that

I don't KNOW any large clans and that's what the original screenshot was from. I was asking region if there were any decently active clans because i didn't really want a reddit one and this general's one "denied" my application. Not my fault someone decided to screencap that. Last thing I want is sympathy. What I DO want is a large active clan and that's it
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>>166822637
>tfw you just want to play this game with other people

I never played with someone from /wfg/ mainly because I am a casual that likes to do stealth missions instead of speedruns.
I end up setting my lobby to solo all the time.
Its a lonely feeling but you get used to it.
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>>166825424
>lying
>on the internet
>in the area and domain of the people you are lying about
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>>166824181
LITERALLY BUILT FOR MY COCK
>>
>>166824750
> I just want to be in an active clan because I'm basically playing this game in single player mode
Seriously, except raids there's nothing interesting in your clan chat being spammed hardly, your clan hall being built by retarted architector completely without fashion sense, your clan leader taking only his close friends in this raids, while thinking of rest clanmates as of lowlevel skilless scrubs and so on. There are only two ways of playing warframe normally -> either you run your very own clan, since resource prices for research are pretty low for under 10 people clans, you just do everything either with randoms or with some randoms you happen to get somehow close. And second way is almost same the first way are, but you invite this randoms to your clan. Though expect to play some tamagochi with your newly hired clanmates, expect many of them to leave, expect many of them to join only to get access to blueprints and stuff. Best way is to find someone you know, make him play warframe, while slowly showing him aspects of the game, but don't hurry with it, cause many people while seeing 12 types of damage start shouting "too hard to understand, to many details" and stop playing this decent game. Just put it in slowly and carefully, don't wait them to be somehow useful in the beginning, just let them adapt to the game, let them understand on their own experience, that this is good, this is better, this can be aquired in one way, this would be useful with this mods e.t.c. And in the moment they will start to farm mods they need themselves, then you could genlty join them, while not using ember for exterminate and simulor mirage for disintegrating everythingm so they would not feel themselves useless, so they would still have gameplay. Take out your old dusty karak, build some frames, so they wouldn't instakill all and everything, allow them to have gameplay. The entier idea of warframe is that even when you farm - you play the game and not just afking.
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Just got Mesa

His Shooting Gallery and Shatter Shield look good for a pseudo-chroma build

Is building her for duration a good idea?

also my friend said the Shattering Shield augment was good if I was doing a duration build, but i dunno
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>>166819981
Not sure if it's happening now but hours after baro came yesterday almost every axi I ran had 1-3 people with axi A2s. A few times 2 people even brought 2 rad A2s on the same mission.

So yes, some people are retarded enough to run rad relics in pubs
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>>166825859
did Warbros finish Hema yet?
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>>166826021
http://pastebin.com/rSmHFVTG

check the guide for how to build Mesa

The SS augment is garbage and ur friend sucks
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>>166826021
You could always not build mesa around standing and shooting for entire eternity, but for quick repositioning and recasting it with low manacost. You would just need to press buttons frequenter.
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>>166826021
just build her around her 4 and murder everything
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>Helminth Charger
>An Infested pet bread from the Helminth Cyst
>Bread

Now come on
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>>166821940
>theres not a reddit warframe clan
what the fuck, yes there is
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>player trying to scam me with 1000 - 100 plat
>call him out
>start pasting him some navy seal pasta
>got about halfway until "user is ignoring you"
lel, i remember pulling that same scam in runescape many years ago
naiz try kiddo but this ol retired scammer aint buyin it that easily
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>>166825972
Sorry to disappoint anon but I play this game because I have no friends

>>166826462
Is there? A reddit clan is better than no clan at all. I had no idea about it. Nothing about it on the sub
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>>166826554
just make your own solo clan
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>>166826262
But I asked about a duration build not a damage build

>>166826329
Yea. I'd rather be running around and shit

>>166826410
Her 4 give me eye pain
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Wait, do Sorties Rescue not have an alternative way to reach the hostages without triggering the coutndown?
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>>166826640
The point is that I want to play with other people though
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>>166826554
I'm pretty sure test clan, please ignore is still around
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>>166826701
No, as soon as you enter the jail area it triggers right away. Went in with invisibility and it still triggered it.
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How much am I going to be able to sell A2 Axi relics for in a few weeks?
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>>166823703
There is literally nothing wrong with being edgy
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>>166827082
As much as people are willing to pay.
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>>166827330
It was meant to be kuva coloured :(
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>>166826646
Mesa builds both duration and damage. She needs both.
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>>166827082
I'd say sell them next week for maximum profits, but keep a few around in case they don't become a permanent Baro item
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>>166827903
>eximus defense

oh good
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>>166827903
>more lua
why
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So is Machette Wraith decent at all or should I just buy a bunch of of the relics?
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>>166828009
MR FODDER
R

F
O
D
D
E
R
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So which warframes are sortie-worthy and which ones are situational/trash?
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>>166827968
What's wrong with Lua?
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>Lex Prime has doubled in price
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>>166828145
Hell yea
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>>166828145
>tfw I've been selling all my lex p parts as ducat fodder

I fucking HATE when this happens
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>>166828145

>double

Nigga, I sold 3 lex prime sets for 75p a pop.
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Where can I look up the best builds for warframe?
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>>166827903
Fuckin great, more lua rescue.
What was the strat for sortie lua rescue, its been at least a month since I last did it.
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>>166827903
>defense
>MOBILE defense
great the 2 gamemodes i hate the most outside of archwang
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>>166828393
>mobile defense is every remotely difficult

Kys my man.
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>>166828256
>>166828205
If I feel lazy, it's basically going to cost me about 100p minimal to make one using the existing Lex P I have.

And the only reason I want one is because I have a Riven I can roll and dick around with.

Anyone use an Aklex Prime yet? Is it gud?
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>>166828256
dude, aklex prime was datamined months ago, why haven't you been saving lex p parts and farming their relics
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>>166828515
It's literally the easiest prime weapon in the game to get right now

>actually using the Aklex and not selling it to lazy shitters for maximum Hebrew

My guy, that is not advisable.
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>>166828393
>he doesn't cheese mobile defense

Don't make it harder for yourself
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>>166828765
>cheese

Elaborate
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Why aren't you farming 70k focus in <10mins?
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>>166828791
>max range chilling globe
>spam 3 and 4
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>>166827903
Wait, hold on. This is a Corpus sortie, right? How come that md one has augmented armor?
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>>166828805
>all that focus

jesus dude
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>>166828878
They just get armor
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>>166828468
>>166828765
When did I said it was hard?
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Does Vaykor Memelok still stack up or has it been outclassed severely at this point?

Any other builds aside from 100% status? I love the little spinning thing it does after every shot too much
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>>166828468
>>166828765
the problem with MD is that it's one of the most time-consuming missions in the game
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>>166822637
>>166822797
So this kid is 16. Why is he here again?
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>>166829224
>I want to play this game but not spend any time in it

What.
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>>166822637
>made the account at 14

So, what, you're 17 now at the most?

What a little cunt, but the sad thing is you're probably still older than half the people here.

>>166828706
>giving a shit about a few hundred plat at the most
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I just got my 100 day login gun thing, this little weird shit turret gun any good or it is it a gimmick?
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>>166828805
where
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So what's the lore behind this fucking Pacifier or Mouth Hook that Valkyr Prime has again?
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>>166828386
When you're hacking the portal listen for the target to shout for help instead of jumping through
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>>166828805
Because the last MD I got 80k as Mesa
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>>166829841
She is a whore.
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>>166828805
>Aksomati over AkstillettoPs

My Hombre, you need to explain yourself.
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>>166830161
Thanks.
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Finally FiNALLY FINALLY have this BP after giving up farming for it and decided to just take my chances with random Jug encounters

Please tell me the rest of the quests aren't this tedious.
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>>166830597
Haha prepare for the last part
If you don't play AW it will make you want to kill yourself
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>>166830351
riven disposition, son

>54k DPS
literally more than double the DPS of akstilletos. Fuck accuracy and status
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>>166830736

I made Itzal, just havent leveled it.
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Which Laser rifle mod would be better for the wyrm Prime's P.Laser rifle? the [ -grineer ] makes me concerned.

Also, How much do ya'll think this Zarr Riven can go for?
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>>166830351
Aksomati for damage, Akstilletto Prime for status cucks
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>>166830597
Spoiler alert
The final boss is archwang and has a fuck ton of health
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>>166831003
>mfw your "crits" fall off while my corrosive damage melts lvl 150 Bombards

Stay Cucked, my man.
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How do I fix Mag Prime's ass?

Which skin do I need to purchase?
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>>166828805

Because you haven't told me how yet.
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It's time.

Postan' the TIER LIST/FRAME GUIDE:

http://pastebin.com/rSmHFVTG

(Reminder the pastebin has detailed frame build guidelines, don't just look at pic related).

If you have a question about a frame or if you're wondering whether a frame is good, consult the guide first.

If you have a suggestion to make or disagree with anything in the guide, state WHY, not just "lol you gave X frame Y grade."

REMINDER THAT THE GUIDE IS NOT FORCING ANYBODY TO PLAY A CERTAIN WAY. It exists as a resource for anyone wondering how to build frames. It provides the most popular, most effective builds for the game - essentially, Warframe's meta. For anyone wondering about effectiveness, it's a good tool. IT DOES NOT FORCE YOU TO FOLLOW IT. IF YOU HAVE FUN PLAYING SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE BUILDS, BY ALL MEANS CONTINUE TO DO SO.
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>>166830823
you're gonna want to do that, and possibly potato it, and have a potatoed archgun (preferably fluctus or velocitus) if you don't just find someone to carry you.
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>>166831678
THATS SHIT
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>>166831678
>goes from letter grades to good vs bad

>ember: bad tier
>Queen of DEAC
You're sending me mixed messages here
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>>166831426
ARSE indeed
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>>166831678
Still a shit tierlist because it's based on performance rather than levels of fun
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>>166831678
>REMINDER THAT THE GUIDE IS NOT FORCING ANYBODY TO PLAY A CERTAIN WAY. It exists as a resource for anyone wondering how to build frames. It provides the most popular, most effective builds for the game - essentially, Warframe's meta. For anyone wondering about effectiveness, it's a good tool. IT DOES NOT FORCE YOU TO FOLLOW IT. IF YOU HAVE FUN PLAYING SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE BUILDS, BY ALL MEANS CONTINUE TO DO SO.
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>>166831981
tier list is based on sortie-level performance (specifically sortie 3 performance, lv80-100). Ember sucks there. But she's still a great frame to have because she wrecks every <lv40. There's a good reason why her prime set cost 1k+ before the unvaulting.
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>>166832117
>do better as ash than loki
>do better as ivara than loki
MUH META
Loki is shit
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>>166831678
>people still think Chroma is good

when will this meme end
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Is there even a good way to kill Jordas?
I'm probably gonna end up carrying some friends for Atlas
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>>166831848

Fluctus is looking like it will run me 60p
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this rescue sortie is breaking my balls
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>>166832189
define "better." You're not one of those people who think damage = performance, right?

>>166832190
>implying Chroma isn't good
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>>166828805
>calls Saryn the queen of sortie focus farming here

>>166831678
>puts here in the bottom half of 'good' frames here

This has to be some kind of elaborate shitpost
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>>166832460
No I mean utility
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>>166832181
Well maybe you should include three grades for level categories (High/Mid/Low), because Sorties are just something you do once each day otherwise. Basing things on just Sortie level doesn't carry much weight because of this.
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>>166832117
it's true you shitposter
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>>166831426
>old arsenal

I miss it so much
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>>166832481
really elaborate, considering it's been going on for over a full year
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>melee only sortie
>have to do all the work with my destreza
>even though 3 of them have galatine prime
>get 1 shot by tech on last objective
>they all leave me to die and run for extract
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>>166832554
how does ash POSSIBLY have more utility than Loki

>>166832560
High-level content is the only thing worth grading for. Anything works on low-level shit, even Oberon is great for it. The only thing that needs to be mentioned about low-level shit is that Ember wrecks it.
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>>166832450
>get excalibur
>walk in
>radial blind
>rescue prisoner
>radial blind
>walk away
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>>166832624
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It provides the most popular, most effective builds for the game - essentially, Warframe's meta.

Pic related

>>166832673
only a genuine s4s tier autismo shiposter could spam this garbage everyfucking day for a year
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>>166832812
*hacking 6 consoles in 60 seconds
>having to wait for slow as fuck doors to open while balistas rape you
>no ciphers allowed

if only it was that easy
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>>166832481
It was a fairly low-level mission in pic (1st sortie), and unlike other DPS frames like Mesa/Mirage, Saryn's damage falls off against high-level Grineer. DPS as a role also isn't valued highly in the tier list, and Saryn lacks survivability.

I like to play Saryn and often use her in sorties for farming, but I don't think she's amazing.
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>tfw join kurwa flood
>everyone is running with energy siphon
>only you had corrosive projection equipped
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>>166832957
>implying it matters
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>>166832852
>If you have a suggestion to make or disagree with anything in the guide, state WHY
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>>166833029
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>>166832957
>level 100 grineer eximus interception
>I'm the only one with corrosive projection
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>>166832957
>implying you need it

>rest of the team has cp, except me
>even with my corrosive build, I still do the most damage
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>>166833052
>WHY

You're a delusional motherfucker that's why.
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>>166833282
>giving reasons is too hard, I'm just going to shitpost instead
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>>166832770
>High-level content is the only thing worth grading for.
Okay but it would lessen the amount of shitposts you get
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Hello
Yes
I left around the time they did that Mag rework that unfucked her
i do have some variety of frems, and my favourite one was Mesa but it got nerfed hard some time before i started playing
Is the game still any fun?
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>>166833509
The people shitposting can fuck off or adapt, we don't need to lower the standard of the general for shitters.
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>>166833405
I don't have the Professor Pic, but the fact that you believe yourself to be superior to everyone here, yet can't even bother to understand how Viral Procs works proves everything you say to be invalid.

Stop Shitposting and make an actual list.
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>>166833756
>this viral meme again
good thing I have my copypasta saved

this bullshit has gone on long enough, going to set the record straight once and for all with LITERAL proof that you're talking out of your ass. I know how viral procs work, I've always known how they work. My confusion was regarding viral damage/armor interactions

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/164124658/#164153950
>Grineer and heavies aren't weak to viral, what are you talking about? That's just not true.

first post I made regarding viral/armor interactions, clearly it's talking about the damage type, not the proc. Thread is in archives, discussion lingers over to the next thread

For the record, viral damage actually does suck against Grineer. Viral may get a slight bonus against the cloned flesh part (this was the part I didn't get), but the bonus is trivial compared to how important the armor reduction is
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>>166833675
I hope I get to play with you so I can switch to ember with level 100 sorties
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How worth is it to forma ivara and mesa? Are they getting primed any time soon?
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Oh boy I'm just in time to see the general get ruined by TQ again.
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>>166834037
mesa or banshee will be the next prime
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>>166833845
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>>166834052
>"""""""""ruined"""""""""
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>>166833845
i wake up and this autist is going on about something else
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>>166833653
bumping
answer me you worthless fags
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>>166834191
I hope its mesa, I wont bother with forma her then
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Hey /wfg/, what was the cheapest a Frost Prime Set could be bought for in recent times? The cheapest at warframe market seems to be 250p, was it any cheaper?

I'm thinking of buying it, I don't have any good Defense frames.
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>>166825890
Ivara is lesbian
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>>166834212
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>>166834798
Good thing I have a feminine penis
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>>166834990
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>>166835031
Is that some type of enlarged clitoris
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what prime frame would newbies like most? volt? trinity? i'd like to start doing clan events for those little shits
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>>166835365
Probably Volt/Rhino
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>>166834341

>not just selling an aklex prime bp and buying the 3-pack forma bundle

1 forma costs 20p, 3-pack bundle costs 35 - that's almost twice the efficiency in cost. forma everything anon
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>>166831223
Doesn't corrosive projection fuck that over?
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>>166835557
>implying I have aklex prime parts
>>
aren't there as many prime frames vaulted as there are unvaulted? we need 2 prime frame releases in a single update. isn't much to grind for at all.
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>>166835682

just sell anything and get up to 35p. I don't understand why so many in this general refuses to buy those bundles, considering how often they're complaining about not having enough forma, but sitting on tens of thousands of plat.
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>>166836084
I dont have plat
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Should I really jew my way up to 1k plat to get Meming Strike?
Or just wait for those piece of shit acolytes to come back?
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>>166836298

which is why you sell shit
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>>166836345
they're coming back LITERALLY soon in the new clan quests and syndicate mission types. sell your acolyte mods like i did.
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>>166836345
Wait, just use something that doesn't need it, like the Hirudo or any hammer.
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>tryout the clan obstacle course
>2 minutes

Fuck
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>>166836703
>do it
>1:10
>clan's best time: 20 seconds
geez
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2 names him
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>>166836865
Name him "I love horse cock"
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>>166836561
How sure about this are you?

That sounds really tempting but I don't know sounds like you're trying to trick me into selling my precious babies... can anyone else confirm?
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>>166836865
Penelope
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>>166836703
Need source on that asian slut
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post potatos
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>>166836865
JEB 2016
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>>166836571
But if I have it I can macro that shit and do less and get better results

>>166836865
consign me
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Is kubrow breeding a decent way to get plat? I just bred a merle with blue colors and im thinking of putting his prints on trade.
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>>166836865
Acysted Murder
>>
>>166836865
KISSU PUPPY
>>
>>166836865
Chad Warden
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>>166836865
Dogpost Prime
>>
>>166836865
Acystant

I love dogposting
>>
Only autismal retards who think they're in House, MD think dogposting is bad.
>>
>>166836865
Genocide Jerry
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>>166836865
pet
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>>166837406
only fat greasy neckbeards living on cripple care think dogposting is worthwhile
>>
>>166837324
Do you also love razorblades, matchsticks, and electrical sockets?
>>
>>166836865

GirlsRObjects
>>
>>166836796
>>166836703
z e p h y r
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>>166837523
well where do you think you are buddy
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>>166837668
They're more interesting than tierlists.
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>>166837523
only skinny prudes who like it in the pooper think tier posting is worth while
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>500p
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>>166836865
minus8
>>
>>166836865
My pet
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>>166836865
Sick doggo
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>>166836865
Snoop Doge Doge
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>>166838158
xD
>>
>>166837854
gimme that fuckin riven
>>
What do people do at Bere?

I see specific parties being formed for it. Whats special about the place?
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>>166836865
"xD eKs DEe Xd"
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>>166836865
AgenderedDisabled
>>
>getting a (You) from TQ

>>166836865
(You)

why the fuck is /wfg/ so bad at rolling 2's what the fuck
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great game honestly
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>>166836865
the edGE
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>>166838317

If you're not joking, then it's sold by someone named DarkSkull in the market chat.
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>>166838364
It's the way things work baby.
>>166836865
Babylegs
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>>166838318
check the guide, FAQs at the bottom
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>>166836865
Dogbert
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>>166836865

GirlCum
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>Lua rescue again
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>>166836865
cumfart
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>>166836865
Jeez 22 replies and not one 2
Let's go with tumdog
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>>166836865
BR pride
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>>166836865
2
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>>166836865

JizzNigga
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>>166836865
ILoveRedditXD
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>>166836865
2 names him
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>>166836865
PCstoleMyExclusives
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>they're still at it
>dozens of rules-breaking spam
>retards will actually defend this
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>>166836865
stopposting
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Jesus christ farming Axi relics is annoying.
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>>166836865
Cockslubber
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>>166836865
WFGcantroll2
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>>166836865

KillJews
>>
>decide to use the last of my extra plat for 4 greater zenurik lenses
best plat I've ever spent desu.
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>>166836865
Knottydick
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>>166836865
knottydog
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>>166838985
Axi interception/excavation/survival fucking when.
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>>166836865
cockgobbler
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>>166836865
chlamydia
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>>166837059
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>>166836865
RumbleRando
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>>166836865
Two
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>>166836865
Chrysanthemum
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>>166836865
Checkem
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>>166836865
hotdoggu69
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>>166838948
>flip flapper poster thinks he has the right to call anyone out on anything
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>>166836865
I Am Number 2
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>>166836865
Scrappy Doo
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>>166836865
cumfart
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>>166836865
fuggboi
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>>166836865
AbortMe
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>>166836865
anythingbuttwo
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I can't wait for that new Helmith model
Which is a shame because it'll be six months before it arrives
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>>166840184
i like the current one
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>>166840102
winner winner chicken dinner
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>>166840102
There it goes
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>>166840102
jesus h christ finally

I dunno which is the best part, wfg failing to roll a 2 or TQ getting buttblasted
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>>166840214
Really? Why?
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>>166831678
>Loki on top
You're a disgrace to warframe
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>>166840378
>when Loki and Frost are nearly useless in the index which is the only place a decent player actually has to try
>yet see them in it all the time dying constantly
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>>166840312
because its cute
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>>166836561
i always get conflicting answers whether acolytes are coming back or not
where's your proof? something steve said in his stream? or just speculation?
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>>166840845
Speculation.

They might do something till the anniversary in march, but I expect they'll be doing bardframe in the meantime.

I'd expect it after the anniversary.
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>>166840764
It has Grineer parts sticking out
Give me a dog
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>>166841276
thats what chargers are
>>
Is this the best or do I need to look elsewhere?
>>
>Tried for hours the past couple of days to sell Berserker to buy Barrel Diffusion
>Finally give up and ask my clan if anyone has any extra
>Some guy says he does
>He gives me Barrel Diffusion and Fleeting Expertise for free
Neat. What warframes even use Fleeting Expertise anyway?
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>>166841307
>>166841276
grineer don't come from eggs????
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>>166840378
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>>166840673
>go invisible as loki
>1 shot multiple enemies during your long duration of invisibility
>deposit when invisibility runs out
Honestly all the stealth frames are pretty damned good in index. Better than Nekros at least.
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Tell me about Fluctus. Should I build this to do Jordas Golem or do I need a different weapon instead?
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>>166812437

As long as you are the one with the Latron mod, yes. Definitely.

The Gorgon is not a popular weapon.

Bear in mind that Latron rivens go for 1k+ if they're decent so you will be fucking yourself over with a straight swap.
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>>166841406
How did you not have Barrel Diffusion? Just farm high level orokin void container vaults.
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>>166841425
the grineer cloning process is weird man.
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What's a good build for the Redeemer?
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>>166841579
Fluctus didn't work against Jordas but wrecks all other archwank content
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>>166841406
Any that need power efficiency, most channellers
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>>166841579
I use a non potato'd velocitus.
It can easily take 5 minutes to kill him for me.
BE SOMEONE ELSE
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>>166841702
>Fluctus didn't work against Jordas

Wait what?
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>>166841826
*doesn't, my bad.
It literally doesn't do any damage to the engines
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>>166842032

I'll just use my starter AW gun then.
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>>166833845

>this link again

I'm going to screencap the post that kicked this off from that thread. TQ doesn't want people to remember it FOR SOME REASON.

Everyone else talks about viral procs, then TQ spazzed out because he doesn't understand procs and insists on MUH DAMAGE, MUH TEEER LIST.
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>>166842158
>post says nothing about viral procs at all

really makes u think
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dog egg
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>Doing sorties
>forgot I still had my Rakta Dark Dagger equipped as I was index farming just before
>leveling my shitty primary and secondary
>lead in damage and kills as fucking Ash Prime
I do not understands pubs.
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>>166842265

>it's a TQ feigns ignorance episode
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>>166842350
>Describe an alleged event
>Make a statement about some group
>Insert some variation of "Amirite /wfg/ haha?"

At least you didn't use an anime image.
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>>166842552
This shit actually happened, I bet you I could do it again, next time I'll take a screenshot.
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>>166842469
post a screenshot of this mythical "viral proc" discussion
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So, Hennya is real now? I mean, DEgenerates will put her into the game?
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so can I upgrade my war to the point where it becomes a viable infested room blender or should I give up on big swords until I can get the galatine prime
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>>166842892
New frame?
>>
>Get riven for multishot and status chance
>Potato and forma mutalist cernos
>Has like 10k damage per shot and 5k toxin
>Clouds proc for 54 damage
:thinking:
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>viper riven
>credit booster
>affinity booster
>2k endo
>4k endo
>credit booster
>focus lens
>~~sortie ayatan patch launches~~
>greater lens
>focus lens
>exilius adapter


>>166794638
>Nekros is Griffith
really makes you think huh
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>>166842552
>greentext
>implying
>"haha look at this posting about warframe"
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>>166842845

How about, and I know this is a revolutionary idea, if you don't want to be mocked for spewing stupid, easily-disproven bullshit you stop spewing stupid, easily-disproven bullshit?
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>>166843068
A concept of demon-based frame with insane melee abilities.
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>>166843173
A valkyr 3.0?
Tbh would like more shapeshifters like nidus/chroma/equinox
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>>166843162
>easily-disproven bullshit
clearly it's not so easy, because you haven't disproven it yet
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>>166843015

What have you got on it?

(Primed) Pressure Point, (Primed) Fury*, Drifting Contact, Blood Rush, Organ Shatter, Primed Heavy Trauma** and two 90% elements should let you shit out damage at a great rate of knots.

*I find it too slow to wind up with Berserker, YMMV.

**Or the +120% Impact event mod.
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>>166843258
>haha the argument never happened
>though I'm right in the argument cause you didn't disprove it
wew lad, did someone drop you on your head or what?
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>>166843243
A bit of shapeshift, yeah. Like, with some ability, she can "mirror" her melee weapon into two in each hand. If melee is two-handed - she create two additional arms. Now imagine how this wilt work with Hirudo

MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA
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>>166843258

>already posted screenshot
>you linked to the thread where the conversation happened
>"not proven"

All hail Doctor Theodore Quentin Rosa Martin Luther King Junior Parks, Professor of Warframe-ology.
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i have nidus. now what?
>>
i've never looked into kubrows because vacuum is legit the best mod in the game, is there a kubrow that picks stuff up for you?
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>>166843487
Sounds cool
Could go for a indian-themed look
or could become rage incarnate
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>>166843542
I already linked the post where I was discussing viral procs, see >>166833845

literally all the other person did was link the start of the discussion. Nowhere in the post chain did I ever imply I didn't understand what a viral proc did

jesus I'm literally handing the the evidence on a fucking spoon, the least you can do is bring it to your mouths
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>>166843831
You can actually check the concept on forum yourself.
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>>166843725

Chesa is meant to grab stuff and fetch it for you.

In theory.

In practice you spend all your time running after the useless piece of shit trying to get the drop it's got in its mouth or it gets hung up under stairs and does literally nothing all mission because Kubrow AI is total shit.

>>166843631

Build for survivability, strength, duration, and a bit of range. Enjoy.
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>>166843859

jesus tq how thick are you, everyone else is talking procs not damage

here have a (You) for your growing collection
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>>166842892

Says who?

Why would they screw over their own designers and push a community shitter's design ahead of the others in the pipeline?
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>>166843893
Google it
Looks like dogshit
And mirage already tried the mirrors shtick
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Is this pile of shit even worth anything?
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>>166844021
and that's the fucking problem. The entire discussion in question was discussing viral damage, specifically viral damage interaction with 2 layers of health on armored enemies. But retards keep simplifying the discussion (likely because they can't understand it) to viral procs, which are NOT the point of the discussion.
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>>166844073
I don't really think they have any planned frames after Bard, excluding Umbra, so why not?
>>166844093
Looks cool for me. (Remember that "mirror" and "illusion" is not the same thing)
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>>166844142
Honestly that's not too bad. What is the max?
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>>166844158

no i mean everyone else in that thread was clearly referring to viral halving enemy health and always doing so regardless of level and armour scaling

your the only one bitching about actual damage

its literally in the thread you linked to, you only talk about damage becaus e your mad
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>>166844473
I'm not hip with the riven terms. What do you mean the max?

This piece of shit is unrolled got it like 15mins ago tried selling it no-one seems interested so I thought I'd check around here
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>>166844624
What do the stats look like when it's maxed?
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>>166844624
Stats at max level.
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>>166844607
and nowhere in the thread did I imply I had no idea what viral proc did

maybe now this dumb fucking accusation can be put to rest
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"random" drop tables that you can "improve the odds" of
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>>166844707
>>166844727
Oh.
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>>166843631
potato and forma to your liking
build to synergize yours' and nidus's playstyle
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>>166844794

>says spores is a bad power
>says he knows what viral procs do
>claims to know anything about the game and give advice worth following.
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>>166844967
>says spores is a bad power
I never said this.

>says he knows what viral procs do
I do know.
>>
STOP
REPLYING
TO
THE
TURBO
AUTIST
>>
>scorchers, bombards, and napalms have even more range now

I'm dieing to these fucking enemies while they target my allies in entirely different rooms. like, it's supreme bullshit. It wasn't this bad before. Did DE sleek something in the last patch?
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>>166845052

>I never said this.

Yes you did.

Holy shit.

You ranted about it being a shit power and Saryn being a shit warframe for FIVE FUCKING THREADS STRAIGHT.
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>>166845558

The flamethrower units have been fucked for a long time now and seem to get worse with each supposed fix. I think they should remove them from the game or give them different weapons until they can patch it properly.

Bombards and Napalms for me are always heavily dependent on lag, if it's a shit host they'll always hit no matter what and I'll randomly get downed too.
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>>166845662
>saryn is a shit warframe
>when she's listed under "good" tier in the tier list

I'm surprised an illiterate man managed to post on 4chan
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>>166845343
I'll reply to you all I want
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>>166844837
This makes me wonder, if you have a dual element Riven like this for a weapon that already applies a dual element damage type (like zarr blast) could you theoretically get 4 dual elemental procs all on the same weapon?
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I'm a shitter how do I do this
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>>166846142
Rhino with some really good weapons.
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>>166845979

>please pay attention only to my pastebin and not what I said again and again thread after thread
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>>166846142
You got Ivara?
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>>166844794
its not so much you yourself implying it, rather it's you showcasing for multiple threads that you clearly don't
in the end, most stopped caring about the discussion itself, just that you shit up multiple threads in a row with it.
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>>166846050

No, two combo elements is still the max unless the weapon's innate damage type is a combo itself like the Detron.

That said, Viral or Corrosive on one mod is still pretty damn good.
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>>166841487
any frame is a stealth farm with naramon.
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oh shit, this is surprisingly hard.
>that status chance
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>>166846297
again, you have NO idea what the actual discussion in the thread was about

>>166846246
>let me just stuff words into your mouth despite literal proof IN THIS VERY THREAD that you never said that
almost as bad as Trump's twitter fiasco
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>>166846483

>demands proof
>proof is posted
>NO THAT NEVER HAPPENED
>yes it did, just look at the proof
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>holy shit TQ you're a moron
>no, i'm a genius who got into med school and the only one who ever tells the truth

Right.
>>
>>166846446
Flight speed is a pretty good QoL improvement
if only the saw disks had a wider hitbox instead of being not-arrows
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Ok Anon's lets do some work.

>The Goal: Make Aklex Prime Red Crit at a realistic frequency.

So we have
>138.8% Crit Chance = Riven Mod
>25% Crit Chance Base
>187%% Crit Chance = Primed Pistol Gambit
>135% = Hydraulic Crosshairs

So what are we looking at? I do not might sacrificing multi-shot and crit damage. The reload Speed will hurt me a little bit. But this build is for experimentation.

And if it fails, I have 35k to keep rolling the dice.

Opinions? Mathematical Theories before I pick left or right?
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>>166846794
>link to a post that has nothing to do with viral procs/damage at all
>""""""""""""proof is posted"""""""""""""

is it a trend among sub-100 IQ shitters to post completely random shit and claim it's proof?
>>
>>166846901
if you want to look at crit, literally all you have to do is multiply some numbers together for crit chance

there's even a website that does it for you if you find elementary-school calculations to be too difficult

jesus

btw redcrits are so fucking overrated
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>>166846901
Is crit chance additive or multiplicative? As in with the mods would it be 25+25(1.288)+25(1.87)+25(1.35) or is it 25(1.288)(1.87)(1.35)? In any case, the mod on the left is much more reliable and speeds up your reloads.
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>>166846948

Well, since you're the only who does that I guess so.
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>>166847315
>>
So I havent played this shitty game in years. How shitty is it nowadays? And what's this focus thing?
Also, is there an updated tier list of stuff?
Is Warbros still #1?
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>>166847589
>asking for a tier list
TQ DETECTED
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>>166847589
>Also, is there an updated tier list of stuff?
yes there is, see >>166831678

there's a weapons one floating around but it's shit, don't use it
>>
>>166847071
He said realistic, not outdated paper theories
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>>166848074
what the fuck do you mean by realistic

crit chance is literally a number calculated by doing simple multiplication

redcrits are overrated as shit anyway
>>
>>166847589
only the damned walk here
flee
>>
>>166847589
>warbros
>#1
They are only number 1 in shitposting
>>
>>166847071
>>166848247

>Not wanting red numbers plastered all over your monitor
What are ya? Some type of saint? Also you sure do seem pissed off for no real reason.
>>166847171
While each weapon has a base chance to critically hit, there exist mods to increase critical hit chance. These mods add together to make a single multiplier to the weapon's critical hit chance; they do not give percentage points nor stack multiplicatively

Mod Crit Chance: This is the total of all equipped mod bonuses added together. If you have a Rank 5 Point Strike giving +150% (1.50) and a Rank 5 Critical Delay giving +48% (0.48) equipped, your Mod Crit Chance totals to 1.98.

I was just trying to spark a discussion but obviously I can't due to disgruntled humans who have been butt fucked by RNG

Carry on
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>>166848578
Redcrits are overrated as shit. People think that getting redcrits is somehow this magical formula for HUGE DEEPS, but that's wrong. In terms of overall DPS, redcrits function exactly like regular crits. There's no huge difference between 100% and 101% crit chance. Going from 100% to 101% crit (red crit territory) gives you the same DPS increase as from 99% to 100%.

Redcrits are a meme.
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>>166848545

No, that's TQ.
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>>166849090
>People
Show me where I stated that Red Crits would increase my huge deeps and/or red crits would increase my DPS

Are you TQ? Why the fuck are you ranting?
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>>166846483
it was about the effectiveness of saryn's particular abilities against high level grineer. you were right, they were wrong.
in the end, you were proving something everyone already knew. people misunderstood that you were proving something specific, rather than saryn's overall effectiveness. of course armor scaling was going to shit on saryn's viral procs. i'm not speaking for those other anons, i'm speaking for your ability to comprehend that you weren't communicating effectively, so it just devolved to shitposting.
>>
>lua rescue

flawless hacking and everything leaves pure rng and 40ish seconds while every hack is 5-6 seconds and checking a portal wastes 3-4.

who the fuck that relying on pure rng with movement and cc is a good idea?
shittiest mode you managed to throw at us, thanks DE. i didnt like my quit rate anyways.
>>
>>166848545
from what i read, it was the original warbros leader not taking up the mantle of "leader" and telling the bros to calm down. all DE asked for was the "leader" to be an actual leader from my perspective.
wia's "it's not up to me" is not an excuse, which is why warbros faded into obscurity
>>
>>166849353

wat

Viral procs always halve the target's health.

Always.

Armour and level has literally nothing to do with it.

And he was flat-out wrong about Saryn's effectiveness. Assuming you aren't actually TQ posing as someone who magically agrees with and defends him every time he gets BTFOd, you might want to re-think what you're saying.
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>>166847802
Thank you friend you are too kind
Your frame tier list does not disappoint
I'm trying to catch up after all this time
With this shitty game that has no point

Although one thing you're yet to answer
I'd like to know, it's been so long
The most important question here
Is Warbros still the #1

>>166794638
Consider this my reapplication
IGN: Zidner
>>
>>166849481
>Can't even use ciphers on the systems because lol fuck you.
Seriously this is fucking cancer.
>>
>>166849481
>>166849905
A

FUCKING

MADURAI

LENS
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>>166849719
i shit on tq every chance i get, but the webm he posted proves that his specific testing parameters aren't as effective against grineer as it is with the corpus and infested
i'm not defending him, i'm really not. but anons misunderstood that the ignis/spores set up and ONLY that set up isn't effective.
whether he's right or not doesn't matter, i don't like him, no one likes him
>>
>>166829841
It's a nose ring. She's into rough sex.
>>
>>166849851
if warbros doesn't invite this man they are officially the worst clan in warframe
>>
>>166849851
>Likes TQ's tier list
memelisted
>>
>>166849719
>Viral procs always halve the target's health.
that's the entire fucking point you dumb turd. Viral proc works also on Corpus and Infested just as it does on Grineer, but the damage of Spores itself falls off against Grineer.

goddamn this is the 10th time I've had to explain this incredibly simple concept

>>166849353
>you were proving something everyone already knew
clearly retards have no idea. STILL have no idea
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>>166850063

I spent a great deal of time in those five consecutive threads pointing out that his testing method was specifically designed to gimp Saryn because that was the only way he could """""prove""""" she was bad.

He kept insisting that Ignis was the only viable way to play her because reasons. No actual reasons were forthcoming other than "lol controlled variables."
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>>166849851
>responds in earnest to TQ
>8s cipher time
>only 79% completion rate
>no MR in cap
BLACKLISTED NOW AND FOREVER
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>second ayatan in a row

I just want shitty rivens, man. oh well, 3,8k endo is pretty alright I suppose.
>>
>>166832117
Speaking of special snowflake builds, Prolonged Paralysis has been *very* useful for me in Sorties.
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>>166816793
>Galatcial_Galaxius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo
Holy shit I actually ran into that same user today. Had the same shit attitude when I offered to sell my Nova p chassis for 130p. Said he could buy my who family with that amount of plat.
>>
>>166850345

NOBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT VIRAL DAMAGE EXCEPT YOU YOU SEMEN-GUZZLING SHIT GREMLIN.

EVERYONE ELSE WAS TALKING ABOUT VIRAL PROCS.

AND THEN THE NEXT TIME VIRAL PROCS CAME UP YOU SHAT ON THEM TOO, IN A DISCUSSION ABOUT CRIT/SLASH/VIRAL MELEE WEAPON BUILDS SAYING THAT PURE DAMAGE OF OTHER TYPES WAS ALWAYS MORE EFFECTIVE BECAUSE MUH WEBMS.
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>>166850485
>He kept insisting that Ignis was the only viable way to play her because reasons
No I didn't you illiterate fucking retard. Ignis is the most effective way to play her against Corpus/Infested, but its damage falls off against Grineer - that was the entire fucking point. No matter what other build you use - and I stressed that you can use any saryn build you want as long as it wasn't cheesy invis shit - it will never be as effective as Ignis against Infested/Corpus. Thus spores damage falls off against corpus.

It's been fucking WEEKS and you dumb assholes still haven't understood a single fucking thing I said
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Would bladed rounds or shred be more worthwhile on the vulkar wraith? only 50% crit chance now
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why can we encounter groves outside of the silver grove quest

is there a point
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>>166850742
er grineer I meant. "Thus spores damage falls off against grineer."

>>166850679
and yet people still accuse me of not understanding how viral procs work. Really fires up those neurons
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>>166829656
None of the login rewards are any good.
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>>166850881
Mods
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>>166850756

I'm not a fan of Punch-through on semi-auto weapons so of those two I would use Bladed Rounds.

Really though I'd suggest going for a 90% Elemental, or a 120% physical if Vulkar is above the threshold there. I haven't checked but it's a Grineer weapon so I assume it's mostly Impact, see if Impact is 76% or more of its base damage.
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>>166850948
exclusive mods?
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>>166850512
Yea the stats are meh, MR is 10 btw. It's obviously going to be higher than 4 after all this time but yea my bad
>>166849851
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Is there a way for easy Orokin Principle Challenge mods? I need 3 to get the Last Gambit's questline.
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>>166850345
again, your ability to communicate that by shitposting isn't helping you.
they do know, it's your controlled testing parameters they didn't know about. they didn't know your testing called for using a specific setup where grineer armor gets in the way of saryn's effectiveness. they didn't know the details of what you were trying to prove because you can't communicate well.
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>>166851013
I believe so
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>>166850885

>and yet people still accuse me of not understanding how viral procs work.

Because you keep saying that they're shit.

When even MR2 newbies are able to grasp the simple fact that halving an enemy's health pool will eventually outscale raw damage, especially when applying Bleed procs that do finisher damage.

But go on. Tell us again how you understand the mechanics.
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Should I stock up on Tempo Royal or the artifacts to sell for later?

Is that a good investment?
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>>166851096
Speedrun, if you have volt.
Jumping platforms, if you have 4 tenno.
Stealth, if you're alone.
Manachallenge, if you got enough mana.
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>>166846142
Valkyr modded for efficiency/duration, and a melee weapon modded for corrosive and blast. Use her 4.

I'm only suggesting Hysteria over Exalted Blade because the former gives you brief immunity to status effects.
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>>166851116
>implying my communication skills are at fault
>implying it's not because meaningful discussion is impossible given a 50-point IQ difference
but perhaps I am at fault for assuming the retards on /wfg/ had triple-digit IQs

>>166851195
BECAUSE BUFFS ARE INHERENTLY WORTHLESS IN THIS GAME.

Please, don't make me post the copypasta again.

Spores Viral procs are certainly helpful, but by themselves they're fucking shit, because buffs are inherently shit in this game.
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>>166851337
Isn't Rhino get immunity for status in his skin?
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How much do I sell my Tigris Prime set for?
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>>166851405
>BECAUSE BUFFS ARE INHERENTLY WORTHLESS IN THIS GAME.
ok
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>>166851405
>Spores Viral procs are certainly helpful, but by themselves they're fucking shit, because buffs are inherently shit in this game.
weren't you arguing earlier about how you did not say these were shit?
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>>166851440
Give it to me for free
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>>166851412
Yes, but I figure those ults are easier than juggling various weapons to get past damage gates.
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>>166851592
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>>166851552
Spores has 2 parts: the viral proc, and the damage component. Both of these make Spores a good ability. The viral proc alone does not.

>>166851498
>>166851498
Why do you think nobody plays Banshee despite her being the literally best buffer in the game? Why do you think people say Ember is shit for high levels despite a 300% single buff and a team-wide AOE buff? Why do you think Oberon is regarded as the worst frame in the game despite a 300%+ buff augment?

Buff abilities in this game are garbage. Only complete newshitters think otherwise.
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>>166851405
yeah, shitposting is definitely your fault. you don't realize this. understand that no one likes you here, so you can't just shitpost like anyone here. because it's not going to be received well.
get this through your thick skull, mr. phD
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>>166851739
>Buff abilities in this game are garbage
wew lad, you arent thinking with your endgame hat on, are you?
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>Join first sortie as Ivara
>Some MR6 joins also with Ivara
>He brought Telos boltace
>Asks me how much duration i have bc his prowl doesn't last for 2 seconds
>mfw people don't even know how a frame works and they play sorties with it
How retarded can people be?
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>get responses to posts in trade chat 5-10 minutes later

do people just let it sit there and scroll up after awhile or what
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>>166850983
I currently use serration, split chamber, point strike, vital sense, the new loka mod, 2x 90 elementals, and the last slot was between shred and bladed
I might try 120% impact and see if I like the damage
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>>166851739
> Buff abilities in this game are garbage. Only complete newshitters think otherwise.
Rhino's x2 damage, valkyr's atkspd buff and other good abilities think otherwise.
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>>166852052
all the time, me included
not exactly more than 5 minutes, but i scroll up
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>>166852052
I scroll up so I can actually see offers and slowly scroll down while the chat gets constantly filled, helps me pick things out while considering things.
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>>166851739
Every bere squad has 1-2 buffers for a reason.
Banshee is certainly used in some situations when a tanky target needs to be brought down fast.
>Why do you think people say Ember is shit for high levels despite a 300% single buff and a team-wide AOE buff? Why do you think Oberon is regarded as the worst frame in the game despite a 300%+ buff augment?
Because elemental buffs don't work on most DPS abilities you mongoloid.
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>>166851552

Are you actually expecting any form of logic or consistency from TQ?

His arguments are always that he's the genius and everyone else is the retard, and he'll ignore everything up to and including the post he made 2 minutes ago to adopt whatever position enables him to argue that.

>>166851739

>Why do you think nobody plays Banshee despite her being the literally best buffer in the game?

Because she's extremely squishy, making her good requires Forma, and then you have to engage your brain to play rather than pressing one button like other frames. And the only reason to even use her for buffs has been removed because there's no point to doing extended runs.

Not because buffs are bad.

>>166851116

Don't even give him the benefit of the doubt for conciliatory reasons, anon.

Not only is he not worth it, what he said he was doing only came to light after the fact when it was pointed out his anti-Grineer build and loadout was shit and that other builds, equipment, and playstyles would be more effective. None of which he can understand because the only thing that matters in TQ fantasy-land is numbers on a blank page, not how things actually work or play out in-game.

>>166851269

I'd get the artifacts. Weren't they like 50 Ducats each to the 385 of Tempo Royale? You can but a lot more of them even if the price point for each will be lower.
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>>166852329
he even dodges answering things by saying something that doesn't exactly answer a question but is still related
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>>166852329
To summerize,
Ignore TQ. Holy hell, ignore TQ. It's not worth it.
The only thing worth saying to him is "fuck off retard" and even that might be giving him too much attention.
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reminder to not let GKL make the new thread
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New here, is this how all of the threads are going to be?
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>>166853006
As long as there would be low mr people, who don't know, how to play all frames and weapons at least somehow effectively - yes.
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>>166853006
i promise you, not always
it's why there's - Tierqueer Filters: https://git.io/vMhaS - in the OP
all i did was ask for advice and occasionally shitpost for the first few months i was here. i somehow started arguing with TQ and it was a fucking mistake
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>>166853006
they change names but they never truely disapear

its known as TQ now


shut the fuck up sewers
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>all these buffshitters
looks like I have to pull out another copypasta

First off, to clarify: Buff frames are those that buff TEAMMATE damage, not necessarily your own. So Banshee/Ember using the augment/Oberon using augment/Rhino etc. are buffers, whereas Chroma is not a buffer (unless using the augment). This is why buffers suck:

1) no current game content needs buffs. lv100 enemies are the highest-level enemies that you'll face (sorties), and top-tier guns like Tonkor/Tigris have no trouble dealing with them. Buffs are purely extraneous. If you need buffs for this level of content, then you're essentially admitting your weapon sucks balls.

2) The ONLY enemies that might conceivably require more than 1 shot to kill are Grineer heavies. In this case, 4x CP makes it utterly trivial. CP further reduces the need for bringing along a dedicated buffer. (Note that you don't even need 4xCP for any sortie-level content).

2) If you care about doing damage, it's much more effective to bring a damage frame like Mesa/Equinox/Mirage etc. Any one of these frames in a squad can completely carry the entire squad for DPS purposes. It's much simpler and much more effective to just use a DPS frame instead of relying on your teammates.

The ONLY time buffs are useful is if you're doing long endless runs where enemies scale past weapon damage. In these cases a Banshee is useful. But there is no point in doing long endless runs any more, so this niche is effectively useless. Another use of buffers is in Berehynia, but this is a very limited, non-endgame case.

tl;dr - buffers suck in warframe
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>>166853006
Well, it IS a general
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>>166853489
>Highest level enemies you will face
Prodman says hello
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>>166853489
Tonkor users sucks since they need tonkor to beat their enemies and cannot into other weapons.
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>>166854101
the same can be said of buff users
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how much do i get for a simulor riven?
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>>166854324
Nope, since the're able to use different buffs and weapons. And tonkor users usually just cannot usually git gud, so they cannot use anything else, starting falling one by one in every second thay meet something above lvl 30 enemy.
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>>166854584
>If you need buffs for this level of content, then you're essentially admitting your weapon sucks balls.
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>Decide to make godly Jat Kittag, but need Crushing Ruin
>Run Pavlov a shit ton of times, don't get it
>Pay 25 plat for one on trade chat
>Randomly get it from a mission today
I've been playing since like 2014 and just happened to get it for the first time today, the day after buying it. At least I can resell it I guess.
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>>166854517
about 80 endo
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>>166854654
If you need tonkor on anything above 30 lvl, your hands suck balls.
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>>166854776
but there are several weapons that scale up to high-level content, not just tonkor
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>>166854945
And if you cannot into all weapons, your hands still suck balls. It's just like dark souls, but even less hard. You can take zweihander/galatine, or you can take tha very simple axe/dark sword. In first case everyone can do highlevel content. In second one - only somehow skilled playes.
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I just finished hikou prime and i think im in love
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>>166855156
>proving """""skill"""" in warframe by purposely gimping yourself

come on, man
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>>166855373
>using only op guns
Your hands suck. And you must use only that guns, since you cannot into game.
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>Nitain alert, infested def.
>Notice our Chroma has done 0% damage first wave.
>He's also the host.
>Find him in a corner up top.
>Announce his faggotry in chat and abandon.
>Nitain alert expired.
Worth it.
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>>166855447
>in a game about grinding optimally, playing the game optimally means you're bad at the game
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>>166855646
My thoughts exactly
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>>166855556
>Not letting the grunts do the work as the host
>Throwing a fit like a bitch
>Not even receiving the reward
fag
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>>166855646
> in a game about grinding optimally
Since you cannot into game mechanics and gameplay you need to grind op things to play that game. Otherwise you're completely useless and cannot even beat highlevel content.
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>>166855646
>he plays a game he doesn't find fun
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do you guys solo high endurance index?
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>>166855818
>MY way - gimping yourself - is the only correct way to play the game
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>>166855990
You are saying literally the same thing as that greentext there
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>>166855818
wtf are you even talking about man
this game is kill everything before it kills you
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>>166855990
Since you cannot into what you call "gimping yourself", high level content is too hard for you, so you had to skip most of warframes and weapons game give to you only to be chained to op weapons, since not op weapons in your hands, as i see, stabs only you, but not your enemies.
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What's a "complete" atterax build look like? 4, 5 forma? I feel like I'm running out of room
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>>166856178
I'm not saying "follow the meta exactly" is the only way to play the game. There are many ways to play the game. But calling people who play the game optimally shitters is just stupid.

>>166856264
see>>166855646
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>>166856419
see >>166855818
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>>166856265

What are you even trying to do?

Isn't it like Primed Pressure Point, Primed Reach, Maiming Strike, Organ Shatter, and then either two elementals and matching dual-stat mods or just four dual-stat mods? Should only need like 2 Vs and a Dash or something.
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>>166856419
>I'm not saying "follow the meta exactly" is the only way to play the game
You kind of are with the whole "PLAYING SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE BUILDS, BY ALL MEANS CONTINUE TO DO SO." bit by trying to guilt people into reading it.
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>>166856264
But what if you are MR23 and CHOOSE to use the best guns? Your logic is fucking stupid
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>>166856523
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So this is the new meme
warframe is a hard game with hard mechanics that you have to learn
Pleas guys we have enough with TQ
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>>166856609
It's probably the lack of memeing strike that's getting me, I was using blood rush/drifting contact to decent effect and just kept going with that in mind
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>>166856419

>he thinks his advice and builds are optimal
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>>166856782
use weeping wounds
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>>166856264
Stop using "into X" every fucking post
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>>166856698
Then you're mr23 who only leveled other guns/frames with help of players, that can play the game. And since you tried every weapon and frame in game and still using only op, means you only were unable to use them with your weak hands.
>>166856916
You just cannot into "into X'. I wrote that only to get you angry.
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>>166856864
>he thinks they're not optimal!
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nu
>>166857136
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>>166857049
hey qt when you going to do another giveaway
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>>166857049

>he's proven they're not optimal

This is why people gun for you so hard, TQ. You give shit advice because you don't understand how things work, then you double down on it and call everyone else retards.

If you made an effort to learn how things work and didn't ram you bullshit down everyone's throats in literally every single thread by coming in and pretending to be someone else who is totally innocently just asking for a tier list and didn't spazz out at anyone who gives advice that others follow you could probably rehabilitate your rep in six months or so.

But that would require effort, understanding, and an ability to talk to people without smug_anime_.jpeg.

And also, critically, admitting to yourself you were wrong in the first place.
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>want to farm my axi a2 relics
>3 fucking defense axi fissures
what the fuck DE
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>>166857026
>Then you're mr23 who only leveled other guns/frames with help of players

Thats a retarded amount of projecting. I cant actually believe anyone could be this fucking stupid. This is worse than TQ levels of stupid, holy shit.
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>>166857678
Isn't defences are easiest and best way to open relics? You could continuously open them, collect traces, even level some other gun after polarising.
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>Lua Sortie
>2 Rare containers
>Lua Sortie
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FUCKING TIER LISTS MY FAVORITE WAIFU IS NOT META WHY NOT REEEEEEEEE FUCK OFF TQ I AM SO MAD I'M GOING TO POST IN ALL CAPS IN THIS INDONESIAN DYE FACTORY
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>>166857564
I've given up on the idea of TQ having any sort of learning capability. Can't even bring himself to humor the ideas of anyone else.
All he knows is smug_anime shitposting, and he's even been doubling down on that even more lately.
The poor soul complains about shitposting and then responds by shitposting.
There's no hope for him
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>>166853489
Here's the only piece of evidence you need to disprove this shit:
Every halfway decent bere xp farm squad has a buffer, and there is a noticeable difference between no buffer, 1 buffer, and 2 buffers.

I'll bite anyway
>no current game content needs buffs
Nothing every needs buffs, buffs just make it faster. You could easily bere with no buff but you'd get less. You could kill a level 1000 enemy with no buff, but a buff makes it faster.
>The ONLY enemies that might conceivably require more than 1 shot to kill
yes, if we're talking strictly guns. But you don't use guns to shitblast entire maps, you use aoe DPS frames.
>If you care about doing damage, it's much more effective to bring a damage frame like Mesa/Equinox/Mirage
And you know what's even more effective than a dedicated DPS frame? A dedicated DPS frame PLUS a buffer.
Retard.
>Another use of buffers is in Berehynia, but this is a very limited, non-endgame case
Or any defense sortie, really, since taking a DPS and a buffer there is still going to clear it far faster than unironically trying to clear it with guns.
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>TQ has been told that he isnt liked primarily because of how he speaks to people condescendingly and using ad hom
>still is a condescending asshole who uses ad hom.
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>>166860735
whaaaaaat? Nooooooo.....
It's because everyone but him is a shitter and supports shitty builds and bad advice!
Totally not because he's a gigantic piece of horse shit. Couldn't be.
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how much could i sell mantis parts for
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>>166861007
I sold an engine for about 20p yesterday
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>the one time you don't want an endless neo/axi
>there's nothing but endless

it's like fucking clockwork, i swear.
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>>166862097
#1 problem I have with relic system
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>>166858560
yea i dunno I can't fucking do that last one. I don't want to just get carried though.
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