/twg/ - Total War General

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1st for fuck Marienburg

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>>166789696
>embed
what did he mean by this?

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LIZARDS WHEN CA?

Can't wait for Kroak's Deliverance of Itza to do less damage than flock of doom

>>166789915

you waited way too long for that sweet, sweet port

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>tfw AE

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6th for brotherhood!

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What happens/happened here?

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>>166790421
>Man-thing doesn't know
I mean nothing in particular my fellow human, praise hammer man

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

I want more Time Commanders.

>>166790421
Skaven capital.
Massive city of humans above ground, Stunties below. Got along swimmingly.
Mystery man approached to help magically finish a massive dickwaving tower project for the humans.
He did so, tower was spooky. A bell chimed 13 times. Skaven were born.
Humans got fucked, everything was spooky, rats ate all the food. Humans kicked down stuntie doors to get at their food after they barred the entrances. Found nothing but many more rats.

>>166790638
Skaven are the best agents of Chaos.

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Total War: Horrifying Nightmares when?

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>>166790524
>>166790638
>>166790727
This stupid man-rats claim again. Please stop spreading these stupid rumors. Man-sized rats do not exist, whatever you saw was more than likely a mangly beastmen mutation.

Any more of this "Skaven" posting is subject to witch hunter justice.

>Mystery man approached to help magically finish a massive dickwaving tower project for the humans.
He did so, tower was spooky. A bell chimed 13 times. Skaven were born.

there somewhere to read more on this? sounds interesting

Does Total Warhammer run better on windowed borderless or fullscreen?

>>166790062
Lizardmen LL speculation lads.

>Kroak
>Mazdamundi
>Kroq-Gar
>Tehenhauin

I think Mazdamundi and Kroq-Gar are the most likely by far.

I'd offer hypothesis on the rest of the (assumed) expansion races, but both flavors of Elves are obviously getting the wonder twins and mommy and crispy respectively.

What about Skaven?
I don't know near as much about them as my Lizards.

Thanquol and Queek?

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>>166791302
Oh, beat me to it.
Cheers.

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>>166791302
>>166791384
all good

>>166791302
>>166791474
fugging horrifying

So that stuff the dwarfs yell, the Khazuid Khazuik or whatever. What does that mean?

>>166792253
lotr ripoffs

>>166792253
See the last thread.

>>166792253
It translates to "The dwarfs are on a warpath."

I don't get Total Warhammer. Army comp just seems random. I try to fill out my army of Greenskins with Orc Boyz, while having a doom diver, orc boar boyz, black orcs, goblin archers, and I still get trounced by tunnelers and hammerers wiht ease.

>>166792903
Hammerers are more expensive than any infantry you have and should thus win.
Miners are shit but have AP, so don't send Black Orcs against them.
Basic Orc Boys are pretty shit. Big'uns are much better.

Abuse the broken doom diver and use your increased mobility to flank them.

Stunties don't kill shit too fast(except at range). So hold with some units and absolutely obliterate one stuntie flank at a time. Systematically move along their lines doing this.

Your archers are pretty useless in general unless you also have da rusty arrers also shooting at the same target. This would absolutely demolish hammerers by the way.
Do use monsters, stunties have nothing for anti-large except cannons and slayers.

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>This whole dilemma
Who or what exactly are these elders? I mean, why is it talking about cake & cocks?

>>166793794
Their Halflings. Halflings are fatasses and they ride giant birds into battle.

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Whats an effective early game army composition for the Empire? It's quite a shock coming from basically every other faction, I could be clever with faction/leader mechanics with other races but Empire seems more like about abusing the auto-resolve with lectors and militia.

>no decent artillery until tier 4 and mortars are priced and tiered too high
>tech upgrades to basic troops take for fucking ever and don't seem fitting for the investment required
>human generals are rendered obsolete by arch lectors but get no CD reduction on their paltry prayers for some reason
>wizards take an obscenely long time to get

There's other stuff, but Empire right now just feels like a shittier version of Dwarfs but with cavalry and the worst building chains in the whole game.

Is the custom battle Balance of Power bar the same as the one you see in the campaign before a battle?

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Does anyone here use the lore friendly greenskin officer mod? I can't fucking get it to work, it says it should be compatible with every mod that doesn't re-balance units, and I have no mods that do that.

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Rock the boat!

>>166793937
they're*

>>166793995
Generals of the Empire can get to Griffon mounts which are spectacular.

Their building chains are a bit jarring yeah, everything is like a tier higher than with anyone else.
Doesn't really matter much as you're mostly fighting others with the same roster anyway.

Mortars are fine.
Reiksguard are superb cavalry for Empire-stomping.

In general you want crossbows or probably more preferably, free company.
Shit missiles wreck shit troops. Then you finish with Reiksguard while holding with swordsmen and spears.

Anything with mobility is a better version of stunties.

>>166792803
or more simply "the Dwarfs are coming!"
Little more weight to it that way,

>>166795218
>griffon
god damn it.

>>166793794

>that clean takeover of empire lands instead of wild expansionism into random foreign lands

I admire your style. Also I've never gotten that event before, I'm sad now :(

I need new content for Warhammer.

Where do we go from here? Should I expect the first expansion next?

>>166796570
Free Bretonnia next.

Then next expansion.(Although maybe more lord packs or some shit inbetween.)

Next expansion isn't confirmed to be, but nothing makes as much sense as the New World. This belief is only reinforced when CA reference matching the size of the first release. Which nothing but the New World will do.

High Elves and Dark Elves, Lizardmen and probably Skaven.

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>>166796967
im so ready for dino murder elfs

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>>166797213
I'm more ready for dino murder dinos.

>>166790991

This is why you always send away the stranger from Albion folks.

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>>166794558
pls someone

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>>166797573
>warhammer lore

literally who cares

>>166792253
>>166792803
>>166795332

I personally prefer "It's a good day for somebody else to die" myself.

>>166797804
The thousands of neckbeards that worship Arch the mighty.

>>166797364
Why would anyone accept "help" from the eternal anglo even if he weren't a chaos worshipper?

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Time for a big creamy screenshot dump!

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>>166798351
Todbringers sexual conquests are the stuff of legend

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>>166798636
I cleaned this up in photoshop a bit, but the filesize ended up being to big so here is the suck version.

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>>166797804
>Ask for help
>Get history fag response
I don't know why I expected any different

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>>166798786
Gelt realizes the folly in wearing all metal while battling a more powerful metal wizard.

What the fuck do Skaven eat? There's supposed to be billions of the little bastards, but they all live underground.

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>>166798917

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>>166799046
>birdboi
>>166799031
I like it, moar

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>>166799185

>>166798912

This is a hisfag only thread, know your place

>>>/tg/

>>166798990
Well they're rats so basically anything they can find and once that runs out, each other I'd assume.

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>>166799317
>>166799387
Dude, most Warhammer Fantasy fans are fans of history as well. Hell the founders were.

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>>166799185

>make two posts
>60s cd
>on fucking /vg/

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>>166799570
>teleports behind you

>>166799570
Please don't acknowledge the hist/fantasy split beyond ironically indulging.

>>166797950
Hi Arch.

>>166799617

Damn I love that quest battle. Especially if you have lots of artillery and you can continue raining it down on norscan fucking shits.

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Poor little Gelt boy

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>>166799685

>>166799760
now post the aftermath with kholek and archaon's corpses littered on the ground

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>>166799827
Isn't Papa Kholek, he uses a giant hammer

>>166798990
everything pretty much, including other skaven and rats. They pillage food in secret as well

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>>166799752
I know, it's just that my father introducing me to Warhammer as a lad actually jump started my interest in real history.
The first time read about the 100 years war in school I was like, wait I have seen this before
Also continuing dump>>166799820

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>>166800000
Babbies first get

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>>166800000
Nice digits senpai.

t. lolgen

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>>166800157
>>166800000
I never get these when I am trying to manipulate world events.

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>>166800294

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>>166800242
EOQ

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>>166800424
I had a little venture into Bretonnia to:
A. Help Leuencour take down Mousillion (spelling bad)
B. Establish something on the Western side of the mountains in case Chaos stomps me into mulch (didn't happen)
C.Have a nice little province to launch crusades into Athel Loren from.

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>>166800626

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>>166800748

>>166800490
Sigmar is basically King Conan

Naginata samurai or katana samurai?

>>166801046
Always polarms

What should my army comp be as Empire? On Turn 61 and just lost my army of Swordsmen, Spearmen, Pistoliers, Mortars and Crossbowmen to some jackass nordlander spamming Free company militia

>>166800242
How is league these days?
Legit question, I quit back after a jungle overhaul I particularly hated.
I think the burrowing champion came out right after it?


>>166801113
1-4 greatswords 1-4 crossbowmen/gunners(depends on who you plan to fight)
1-2 artillery
2-6 flanking units (demigryphs are really strong so I'd show restraint)
The rest to join greatswords in anvil, halberds or swordsmen depending on who you plan to fight.
Or you can fill that with free company of your own for more of a black powder feel.

As a vague guideline.
Bring an empire captain if you need air support for your lord. Light, Life, Shadow and Beasts are the good lores. Though light only for the net and the anti-undead passive.
Fire is passable. Celestial is shit. Metal is shit but that doesn't concern you on HERO selection anyway.

Outriders/Pistolliers are pretty damn shit, I'd only use them if you're up against missile cav and you don't want to deal with them any other way, or if for some reason you still have very little else to flank with.

Steam Tanks are your strongest unit, show restraint there as well. Or go full Panzer Group if you want I guess.

Flagellants are either frontline infantry, flankers or worthless garbage depending on who you're up against.

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Don't you just love it when an ETHEREAL FUCKING GHOST is blocking a full stack army from crossing a a bridge?

>>166802062
no

>>166802062
Spoopy

redpill me on the wood elves, how are they in multiplayer?

How can gelt boy even ride a horse? He must weight like 3 tons

>>166803291

Magical horses

>>166802539
Very good lore of life deathstar with Durthu.
Treekin and Eternal guard are both exceedingly good units.

Otherwise some semi-mobile less tanky but more damagey version of that with cav and missiles.

Alternatively you go all out on glade lord and waystalkers and the rest fast units and kite around for 60 minutes straight cheesing with arrow of kurnous.

Not Empire/VC good, but not bad either.

Except against stunties who almost hard-counter them as generic stuntie magic resist counts against being clubbed in the face by a tree.
But then Welves can kinda come back by spamming wildwood rangers who are legitimately overpowered(CA confirmed they were overbuffed accidentally) and good against armor.

>>166791302
>>166791474
>Literally the warhammer version of Rats In The Walls
Why are rats so scary?

How does everyone always have so much cash? I hold half of the flatlands as the vampire counts and have barely enough of an army to keep what I hold, and have an income of like 1-2k with maybe 500 gold banked at the end of each turn.
Is it the trade?

>>166804245
Trade helps a lot. VC have the worst economy in game by far.

>>166804245

Trade does indeed help a lot.

But in case of vampire counts, the best way to make money is rush City V and make libraries + vampire crypt

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Oh hello there, Skwisgaar.

>>166804245
assuming youre unmodded CA have no concept of game balance so just sack->occupy and it'll net you obscene cash with no downside

I give up.

Every time I start a Azhag campaign it's a fucking shitfest. Winning the badlands bowl has been horrible. Rebellions everywhere, early chaos invasion at turn 30 something, chaos corruption everywhere from Warheads that won't fucking show themselves.

And now VC have entered the badlands and are eating away at my undefended settlements. I love how the VC declared war on me anyway DESPITE the terrible +10 relationship I have with them which is next to useless.

I was so close to getting Skullmuncher this time but I honestly can't be fucking bothered at this point. Rebellions that I need to fight manually because auto resolve thinks I have zero chance at winning.

tl;dr im mad

>>166805349
You know what they say...

>>166806457
>Azhag campaign

Well I found the problem here. Like I hate to say it but he really is the worst. Even with Skullmuncher he preforms worse than a default Warboss on a wyvern.

Honestly the whole Orc vs Dwarf blood bowl needs a rework.

>>166806679
Means you don't need to waste a slot on a wizard though.
though
>gobbo archers
is a timeless meme

>>166806457
I just finished a hard one. rushed for black orcs after taking the first province then simply autosolved my way with two decent armies through the entire badlands. The dwarf AI was retarded though and never tried to stop me.

>>166807269
Yeah but it's for death magic which is just ok. Besides I'd rather have a gobbo take up the slot to get buffs/debufs like sneaky stabbin going.

Plus it means you'll get a Warboss who's actually good in combat.

And his starting units don't help but aren't the main issue it really is that he just under preforms in all his ways that should make him special..

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EB 2.3

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>>166806457
>>166806679
Azhag should just be separated from Greenskins and get his own start in the Troll Country desu.

>>166804282
>VC have the worst economy in game by far
you can get East Sylvania to pump out like 10k currency alone...

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never seen a rebel faction become a horde

>>166811248

Mite b cool

>Kislev immediately on your dick
>Chaos immediately on your ass

Not sure how it would work though.

>>166811727

probably not too well considering theres no orc settlements for miles

>>166811758
There are Kraka Drak and the World's Edge Mountains nearby though.

>>166790528

Great helms look retarded

>>166802062
Your men are obviously terrified of the haunted bridge.

Get one of your wizards or captains to go banish the fell spirit.

>>166812698
You look retarded.

>>166802062
How did Hohland mange to conquer Middenland, Wasteland and parts of Nordland?

>>166811256
And everything else makes relative dirt.
I'm not saying their economy is hard, and Eastern Sylvania obviously works magic. But comparing their built up cities to the built up cities of others across multiple provinces they're comparatively shite.

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>>166811712
>>166811712
Happens very often. Notice the alamanic separatists.

>it's a "send a cavalry to attack a target but they get intercepted by a near dead archer unit that manages to interrupt their charge and the cavalry unit decides to turn around to kill those 4 archers while their main target escapes" episode

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Hey, guys..what do female beastmen look like?

>>166814012
Male beastmen

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>>166812698

>>166814012
They have cow tits and are called breastmen

>>166814012
Smaller and more feminine ungors. Beastman does are referred to as "gentle and docile" in the fluff, used as breeding stock by the strongest Gors. They don't fight it, they're just happy to make other people happy.

> playing VH FotE WRE on Attila
> Attila's come of age and I still hold most of my empire
> eternal Barbars out the ass

What I'm wondering lads if it's worth sending priests to convert them to Christianity to get some peace? The langobards randomly did and they suddenly liked me

>>166813994
>it's a didn't happen episode
what the fuck are you playing

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>>166799031
>unprotected chest
>iron boots

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WE IN IT NOW BOYS.

1-5: Play Warhammer.
6-0: Play Attila.

>>166816335
Close

is Fall of the Samurai worth getting if i loved empire?
Is it worth the money or wait for sale?

>>166816820
It's probably the best gunpowder TW by gameplay.
Really fun. I haven't played Empire so I can't compare it.
A bit more silly than Napoleon but a lot more fun.
Only you can tell if it's worth the cost or not. I don't know how much the money is to you.
Sales are frequent enough on it though I guess.

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What's the most powerful _unit_ according to the Lore? Dragons?

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>>166815343
>ywn be a beastman returning to your woodcamp after pooping all over Middenlanders and shagging your doe who's just happy to be there

>>166815578
By the sound of it I'd say he was playing M2 or Empire.

>>166816997
Physically it's probably star dragons. Overall its the really old slann.

>>166816997

Lore can be inconsistent.

Dragons can rout entire armies.
Dragons can die to a single goblin
Greater Daemons can destroy entire cities
Great Daemons can be killed by an Orc

>>166817084

>Archers in Empire
>Warscape in M2

Nah, man - that's either R2 or Atilla.

>>166816820
its fun but becomes pretty boring ones you realise that even 2-3 tier2 cannons make battles trivial

>>166816997
One of the massive models from The End Times supplements reached the most lore power I guess.

Lord Kroak is a spirit clinging to his dead body which has forgotten everything except its ICBM equivilent of a spell that it originally used to go out in a blaze of chaos-skullfucking glory.

Greater Demons are generally completely insane, Archaon is technically their better though.

Khemrian Warsphinx are the ultimate monster killers.

Abhorash is probably the greatest warrior alive by far.

Some races like skaven have irresistible magic that can instantly kill anything if the dice are in their favour.

>>166816997
The oldest Star Dragons and Shaggoths are probably the most powerful individual units that aren't also named characters.

>>166817220
charges getting interrupted like that happened all the time to me in med2 though, and empire does have archers

>>166817278
Pardon, that's the Necrosphinx*.

>>166817220
You're right about the archers bit.
He didn't mention warscape though. It's quite typical AI cavalry behavior in M2 to just ignore your order to charge and attack some random blokes caught in their path.

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should I just disregard diplomacy and be as perfidious as possible as Rome in Rome II?

diplomacy just seems to be getting in the way of the P A X

>>166817731
Trade with Greeks, conquer guals.

>>166817731
Conquer everybody

The quest battle maps are so damn good it makes the normal maps look even worse than they are

Why cant we fight on those maps outside quests

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>>166818084
You can though. It's pretty easy to get them

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Good TV shows to get you into a total war mood:

Frontier - Netflix original set in Hudson bay Canada late 1700s. Has Americans, British, French, Scots and Irish. Everyone fights over trade with the Cree. Good for Empire: Total War

Vikings and The Last Kingdom - Set during Viking invasion of england and the formation of the English kingdom. Good for those Age of Charlemagne feels.

HBO's Rome - Everyone on TWG should know about this by now. Canceled too soon. Set during Caesar's rise to power.

Can't think of anything for Shogun 2 or Attila unfortunately.

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>>166811712
iirc east germanic separatists come from hun stacks that rebel

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>>166818342
Also I find the normal maps to be just fine. They could be bigger, but I have gotten way more boring maps in rome 2.

>>166818332
Some of those huge japanese samurai tv series. Sanada Maru is pretty neat.

>>166791302
>>166791474
Isn´t 13 the number of one of the chaos gods?

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>>166818595

>>166818332
I watched frontier a few days ago,, it's kinda shit. Even John Adams and Taboo set better 1700's moods

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Any chances we will get Odo d'Outrèmer and Suliman le Saracen as for Bretonnia?

>>166815839

Nice cheats

>>166816997
Hastati

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>>166818332

Three Kingdoms 2012

>>166820437
Marian Hastati Pikemen?

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>>166820505

Whoops, I meant 2010

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V:TW when

>>166820664
Vampire: Total War?

>>166818332
>Vikings and The Last Kingdom
I wish my autism would allow me to enjoy these. Vikings started strong, but then got progressively more shit.

The Last Kingdom was a bit better, despite the square shields. I found Alfred was well done and I liked that the Saxons weren't potrayed as completely inept.

Med2
>1066
>Kingdom of Heaven
>Henry V
>Black Death
>Robin Hood
>Ironclad

For Attila I remember watching something with Gerrard Butler in, it was fucking hilarious.

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>>166820664

>>166820664
What's the point?
CA will never make any of the minor Germans like Bavaria, Hannover or Saxony playable. You will never be able to save Germany from Prussia.

>>166820641
>>166820505
>Shit is just getting good
>Half the big players die from old age or stupid assassination shenanigens within a couple of days
It really is like playing Total War

Is there some sort of secret to befriending Nordland? Or is it just a bad joke from CA and it's absolutely impossible to do Karl's runefang quest without completely erradicating them? I've spent 30 turns already gifting them nonstop and they don't even want a non aggression pact.

>>166821187
the secret is to conquer them. if they don't exist the mission complete.

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Got herd(shieldless ... for a Gor) don't seem too good, how do you guys use them?

Or do you just stick with the shielded varient like I do?

Breastmen don't have a very big roster, so I'm trying to find out what the rest of their units are good for.

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>166821319
Less defense, more offense by slight amounts.
And I think only the shieldless can vanguard deploy.
That's it.

>>166821319
Well, they have a better attack?
Shields are mainly for incoming missiles.

I mainly use shieled herds because I find dual wielding silly.

Would it be possible to mod Orion to have two dogs in his unit?

>>166821468
That's the thing, against most infantry, shielded seem better, and I'm not really convinced the vanguard is worth it.
Against cav and super high attack I guess the unshielded ones are better, but they cost quite slot more

>>166821828
Welcome to the beastmen option.
Unfortunately there is little point between choosing different parts of your roster.
A lot of stuff blends together.

>>166821920
>option
roster*

>Averland and the Moot are renowned for their pastures and farm lands
>in game Averland gets pottery as a resource and the Moot gets wine apparently
>Averland also has a city at the mouth of BFP but not close enough to act as a bastion against invading greenskins
>Empire gets a Tier 5 Sigmarite cathedral, confers no adjacency bonus against corruption
>Have to spend thousands of gold and a number of turns for +10 armor on state troops, the effect is virtually negligible
>and so much more

The Empire campaign fills me with anger. It feels like it was the first faction designed by CA and as a result is the most conservative and anti-fun experience of all of the base races.

>>166822427
Despite the buildings not comparing to the other races, they're still fun as fuck.
Moot farms a lot and drink a lot so wine is fine for them.

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>>166822427
>not burning down the Moot
I bet you also believe what the fishmen say.

>>166823419

Makes me sad knowing he wont be added to the game.

Whenever I scroll pages, change windows, type something or do any other basic activity my pc lags behind and freezes.
What happened? Malware? Bitcoinminer or is my harddrive fucked?

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COME

SIT

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WHEN?!

how the fuck do I beat pike units in Rome II, fuck these niggers

>>166824448

Attack them with ranged or flank them. I remember that Peltasts wreck heavy infantry in general so they'd be good

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oh boy

>>166825092
them's Huns for ya anon.

>>166824028
>>166823756
>Marius will never have a quest battle where he fight a halfling+ogre army in the Moot

>>166824028
>Sword in hand, chicken wing in the other
This is the most halfing thing I have seen.

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>>166826665
>wing

How do I play Fall of the Samurai? I just fought a battle where I ran my gun units through the trees to flank the enemys gun units, and pretty much killed them all. Then all of a sudden their melee infantry and three general units charged me, I sent my Spears to the front and half of them routed instantly, then my general got sniped immediately after I killed theirs. I would have appreciated a tutorial or something.

>>166827273
What could a tutorial have taught you that you didn't learn there or that was already self-apparent.

>>166827273
Early line infantry units suck ass, you're better off just using a mix of samurai and levies until you get a blacksmith province and can start pumping out 100 accuracy Imperial/Shogunate infantry.

>>166827273
I don't know. It's been so long since I played Shogun 2 I've probably just forgotten how to play in general.

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>Tosa Rifleman made in a blacksmith province

>>166827525
My first game I dominated every battle using the basic gun levy. I was doing so well I didn't realize it was a levy.

>they removed point penalties in arena for friendly fire so that cyka blayats don't get punished for not supporting the team

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>>166827538
revy infantry suck, use them for garrisons and to pad out your armies if you don't have any money

rine infantry are pretty decent, but don't expect them to beat samurai in hand to hand combat

make sure you have cannons

keeping a couple spear revy (or even yari kachi) around to deter cavalry is not a bad idea

>>166829147
make sure you have cannons

getting cannons is always a weird feeling, you know your powerlevel just shot up by a billion while your movement speed took a total dump and it takes 2523 turns to reach the enemy.

>>166829272
Not that anon but how good are wooden cannons?
I always tech past them too good to ever find out.

>>166829485
>how good are wooden cannons
Not good at all

>>166829485
>too good
Soon*
Holy fuck I shouldn't be posting while this tired.

>chaos sends 2-4 stacks at my provinces
>defeat and destroy all of them
>they have some horde in bumfuck nowhere
>Doom Tide
>repeat

I've been through this process at least 6 times this campaign, its getting really fucking old

>>166829485
absolutely shit

So, I somehow got placed onto the Aus/Asian servers for Arena
Anyone want to team up this weekend?
Im Alssadar

>>166821757
think so

>Replace Orion with a small unit of hounds in the db
>Add the real Orion as an officer
>Set him as the officer for the hounds unit

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Would you continue running toward the enemy or turn 360 degrees and rout away?

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The Great Grudge war still rages

>>166832891
>Fortunate Dawi starts playing

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>the only thing shields do is block arrows sometimes
>not having a dug in formation in order to defend against chariots

seriously my man?

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>Vampire Cunts and Greenskins wiped out
>Bretonnia managed to somewhat contain the Wood Elf expansion so they aren't a massive empire by now
>Chaos finally rears it's ugly head
>Tfw can actually afford more than 4 stacks since so many order factions survived and most of them want to trade with me
Feels good man. I thought this campaign would be terrible but it turned out to be pretty comfy.

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>>166833237

They're the most it ain't me faction.

Somebody explain the DeI economy to me

>>166815770
>implying their chest isn't protected by 280lbs of normie-crushing muscle

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>infantry sees Kholek
>instantly rout

Stop fearing Shaggoths.

>>166836736
But Kholek is a huge guy

>>166822427
What? Empire is one of the better designed factions.

>best starting spot
>can fight any faction you want, easily
>units are fun
>tons of magic
>tons of diverse threats and places to expand
>fun lords and heroes (except Gelt)

>>166814012
Depends on the kind of beast(wo)man that they are. Be it minotaur, centaur, ungor or what have you though, more feminine and probably more slender. And obvious female features of course, like breasts.

AE when?
Discount on Beasties when?

>>166837296

Their campaign has some really stupid shit though, like the tech tree (10+ turns for 5 armour on high armour elite units) and it's reliance on costly tier 4-5 buildings to even unlock them in the first place.

Offices are a good idea though, but shame that the empires office powers get overshadowed by the superior WE offices.

>>166837480
never and never

you're welcome

>>166837480

Beastie boy sale codes in the next issue of white dwarf, £30 price naturally :^)

>>166832274
Better than having to live in Kislev

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This is what 100% erect, full mast looks like.

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>>166837948
>Bretonnia with no cavalry

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>>166837948
>all those filthy peasants
What the fuck is this supposed to be?
A farming community?

>>166837948
>Bretonnia
>Nothing but peasants
>Zero (0) cavalry

Thou actions bring shame to Bretonnia!

>>166838063

yeah should have replaced the spearmen on the far left with cavalry to hit them from behind

unholy rape would have commenced

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the top kuntz are a bit far from home

>>166838703
they respawn as a horde somewhere if wiped out

>>166838703

They probably got wiped out and spawned as a savage orc tribe

What total war (mods included) has loadsa factions and a big overworld map?

I *like* some TW games, but it seems like nobody ever bothers to have more factions than RTW2 does, which is a bit underwhelming in itself

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Holy shit this video is cool. Now I want to play Bretonnia badly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glCo4jMK-vA

>>166840180
like every medieval 2 mod

also EB

>>166840305
>20 factions
>lots

Fuck off

>>166840180

Warhammer has about 8 factions but all of them are different and unique to each other and not just reskinned humans.

Attila has a lot of factions but most of the fun ones are DLC (sand kingdoms is a must)

I remember rome 1 having a lot you can unlock through editing a file.

Medieval 2 has a billion factions, mods, mods with factions, overhaul mods with a billion factions.

Shogun 2 has the fewest I would say. Least diverse rosters, too.

>>166840434
>the maximum allowed

are you retarded

>>166839664
>still no playable orc horde faction
The fuck are the modders doing

>>166840519
Like I said you mouth breathing nigger
>>166840180
>I *like* some TW games, but it seems like nobody ever bothers to have more factions than RTW2 does

>b-b-b-b-b-but muh faction limit

yeah, that's why i asked for which games with which mods have the most factions you stupid faggot. durrr EB has 20 factions though

>>166840680
thanks for confirming that you're retarded

>>166840630
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=747196494

>>166840769
>wow wtf you don't like having 20 factions like in RTW?

I don't need help from someone who's an actual stupid motherfucker, thanks for your attempt though.

Lords/Legendary Lords are a completely unique thing to Warhammer, right?

I actually hope it's something that returns in the next historic title, BUT, they are severely weakened and mostly there for morale and other shit. That way, ambushes and taking out the commander (like how it was in history) is an actual viable tactic.

Moreover, I hope battle HQs are a thing in the next one to compliment this. A commander would be absolutely necessary and pivotal to the battle but you'd need to divert soldiers to him in order to protect him, and also have the option of moving your HQ and commander so he can potentially escape ambush attempts.

>>166840976
>not making your own legendary general

But that's the best part of TW anon

>>166840891
>I want an arbitrarily large amount of factions instead of diverse factions

Why don't you go play Shogun 2?

>>166840891
Stupid motherfucker. I'll stick with Warhammer's unique factions thank you. Go play Shogun 2 or Napelon

>>166841149

Nah I mean like for the actual battles. When I played Attila, there wasn't any LL/Lord, just packs of units. It'd be cool if there was one, but weaker obviously and not superhuman, and he played a pivotal role in the battle as most commanders historically did.

Would add another element of danger and excitement to the game IMHO.

>>166841149
>wow goy we can't make more than ten seperate factions, that would be too much work :{


the reason CA is trash now.

>>166840976
It's kinda annoying that in E.G Shogun 2 most of the cool historical characters die off when used by the AI. Fucking Takeda Shingen dying turn one or whatever sometimes so you never get to fight him. I hope the newer historical titles gives the historical characters more "character". I am not talking about immortality, but they should at least be shielded from some of the AI's stupidity and have a bigger presence on the battlefield. They could take a few stuff from TWW LL system.

>>166840803
>only savage orcs available
Ouch

Would be doable with Wurzag. But he's not an option

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>>166841279
>a whole diverse 10 factions that modders could easily outproduce (see: workshop)
>good
>justifying having no factions and having 50 province campaign maps in 2016

The reason CA is trash now

>>166841293
All the factions in Warhammer are completely unique from each other, on campaign and battle. Subfactions are a good replacement that they've added. You are very stupid. One faction in Warhammer Total War is worth five or more shitty factions that you want.

>>166841472
Nice bait faggot. There's nothing on the Warhammer workshop that compares to vanilla factions

>>166841591
Wish they had more starting positions though. I guess it's coming. Mousillon would be really neat.

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>>166841472
>a whole diverse 10 factions that modders could easily outproduce

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>>166837480
Still far away, anon.

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This seems like a hilariously shitty weapon to bring to war...

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>>166841801
AE fucking never

I wish they would at least have released a beta without all their fancy shit by now

>>166842081
It can trap a guy and keep him a bay.

>>166842081
>Peasants
you dont even know

>>166841472

hello Radious

>>166840302
>No chants about m'Lady

dropped.

>>166842263
Most modders are cunts arent they?

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>replaying AoE II
>Saladin campaign is fun as fuck
>thinking of reinstalling M2 and playing an Egypt campaign in vanilla or crusades
Should I lads?
I haven't played M2 in years.
On another note are the Lakhmids of Attila fun?
I kinda ignored all the desert faction during my playthrough.

>>166842081
those kind of forks were actually useful for knocking down and restraining armored enemy knights, who would later be ramsoned or executed

it makes no sense for a cavalry unit to carry them tho, nor it makes any sense to carry these with one hand if you intend to pin down somebody

>TW:WH Empire Vh
>get only scarecrow banners for the entire game

why was this banner even added to the game, it's serious trash

>>166840302
That guys channel is really underrated, he puts a lot of effort into his stuff.

>the only south vs north US civil war campaign is a mod
>it's released on empire:total war
>don't want to spend a dime on it
The south cannot rise under these circumstances.

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>>166842089
Just bee patient

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>>166842986
Lakhmids are one of the more interesting Attila campaigns in my opinion since they start out as a Sassanid satrapy. They used to be a fucking pain in the ass before White Huns were introduced.

As for Egypt campaign i'd probably go for a mod like Stainless Steel or something similar since the vanilla Egypt tends to be a bit too easy since they swim in money and you don't really have any strong opponents until the mongols arrive.

>>166844046
What do Lakhmids have that Himyar or Aksum don't?

>>166842986
Egypt was fun in Medieval 2, and crusades gives them a lot more enemies to fight early on, though they're still easy since you have you're back against the wall.

>>166844046
Being a Puppet State is a pain in the ass since Puppet State diplomatic relations when not played by the AI is bugged

>>166843734
SEPTEMBER 2017
F U C K I N G S E P T E M B E R

To have the same autist Rome roster and 6 units or less in other factions.

Killme.jpg

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>>166844350
Superior slingers and easier access to Zoroastrianism? I honestly can't remember that well since it's been over a year since i played as them.

They all have great cavalry including armored camels. Himyar is more focused on heavily armored infantry whilst Aksum has lightly armored troops that have stronger attack. Lakhmids are sort middle of the road when it comes to infantry. They have some decently armored macemen.

>>166844854
What's so great about Zoroastrianism

What are the Lakhmids supposed to be anyways, Semitic Pagan?

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>>166837480
Soon

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>>166843734
THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPER OF THE MOD, IT'S SOME RANDOM FUCKWIT WHO NEVER LEAVES THE FORUM

FUCK

Real estimate is late late feb/march

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>>166845326
Ok, I will agree to disagree with you.

>>166845326
>Real estimate is late late feb/march

I'll believe it when I see it desu

are you a developer

>>166845037
Not sure anymore but Zoroastrianism at least used to have the best edicts and being zoroastrian yourself makes it a lot easier to conquer former Sassanid lands since they are mostly zoroastrian and manichean. Think the Lakhmids start ous as eastern christian though.

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>>166845461
Yeah, i come here from time to time but not a lot this year since it's all been warhammer. I'm surrounded by Warhammer miniatures but i just find the TW game kind of boring and hollow.

>>166844350
lakhmids have a persian roster with a few super strong unique units in it, they are quite different from himyar and axum

>>166845037
>What's so great about Zoroastrianism
nothing its pretty shitty actually

>>166817141
Think about it like only special characters have the tools capable of harming greater daemons, some can not be hurt and have to be banished so they could destroy an entire city but one warrior priest could beat them.

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>>166845326
>feb/march
I wont count on it anon

>>166845326
I don't understand why did the AE developers decide to redo the HP and as a result the entire combat system, seems like a huge waste of time to implement something that most people won't even notice

>>166845956
Hey, if you are going for autism might as well go full autism

>>166845956
It's better, it is noticeable. There's also something called the division of labour, one person doing the battle balance wouldn't be doing building trees otherwise, they only do battle balance, so it's literally no loss to production time to do it. Same with the huge Roman Roster, one shall we say, devoted guy, made it and we just tweaked it and stuck it in. We didn't use our time making them.

AAAAAAAAAAH I WANT TO PLAY BRETTONIA

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>>166845727
AAAAAHHHHH

GET BACK TO MODDING

I mean, why the fuck Mod devs waste their time here rather than finish their fuckin mod?

And why the fuck I waste more time here than actually in-game?

I'm retarded and still trying to figure out how to build armies in WH. When's the best time to take Great Weapons/Greatswords over standard infantry? I assume the general idea is
>Take standard units/shields if you expect to advance on a lot of archers/missles and maybe if you expect cavalry
>Take great weapons if you can force the enemy to come to you or if they have a lot of heavy armor

>>166846341
Don't be so insensitive. Modding cannot be done 10 hours a day. People need breaks.
Also, he is not even developing. The only thing being developed here is my dubs

>>166846428
>When's the best time to take Great Weapons/Greatswords over standard infantry?

You don't. You mix them up. Units with great weapons have no defense against ranged units, and will get killed.

they also can't hold the line as well.

>>166846341
It's a hobby, unpaid, at the devs own pace, not yours, you don't even have the patience to develop a career.

What's the best strat as WRE in Attila? I've demo'd all my churches so I can start making some dosh, and building up my armies and inner provinces around Italy. Should I just haul my armies all the way back, put up a sort of fighting retreat, abandon altogether, or keep my armies to try and defend capitals the best they can?

>>166847358
go on an offensive from turn 1

>>166847358
is breaking the alliance with ere a good idea? saves getting into wars against them and its not like they help you in europe

>>166847358
Abandon your lands and withdraw to the isles of Britannoi

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ok

AAAAAAAAAHHHH WHY AREN'T MY TOWERS SHOOTING

I DIDN'T SEND ANY REINFORCEMENTS TO MARIENBURG BECAUSE I WAS COUNTING ON THEM AND NOW I'M GOING TO LOSE IT

>>166848636
What?

>>166848863
AND I CAN'T USE MY FUCKING DOOR TO SALLY OUT MY KNIGHTS TO TAKE OUT THE ENEMY MORTARS BECAUSE IT SAYS IT'S NOT UNDER MY CONTROL

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT CA?!

>>166849025
Man the walls near the gate and towers.

>>166848636
who's kholek fighting?

>>166849141
NO FUCKING SHIT SHERLOCK WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE PROBLEM

>>166848863
its a bug with marienburg. and marienburg is filled with traitors.

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Stop playing as Christian factions.

>>166848863
>>166849025
>>166849141
>>166849214
>>166849254
Oh wait nevermind, I still won. But still, fucking bullshit. Does this mean I actually have to have a stack sitting there forever since I can't count on the city's actual defences?

>>166802062
>Using flagellants

>>166849541
>ill won. But still, fucking bullshit. Does this mean I actually have to have a stack sitting there forever since I can't count on the city's actual defences?


Its garrison is pretty strong by itself if you stillbuild walls. but you can always garrison a small army there.

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>>166849531
This infidel al Turki is right.
Stop believing the lies of the pope, Frenk.

>>166849541

even at t5 with t3 walls norsca will still siege it with 2 stacks every now and then so a small stack would help defense a lot. you say you cant sally forth so you could just hire a general on his own to attack besiegers.

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>>166849750
>Not making lord specific armies

>>166849951
It's not that I can't sally forth, it's that on the siege map, I can't open the gate. I had to wait for the enemy to open it with a battering ram, then clear out the area, then sally out my knights to kill their mortars (since I couldn't shoot them with my towers either). And by the time I managed to do all that the battle was already won.

Bretonnia reveals starting Wednesday fellow understanders of strategy.

Maybe announcement of next game too.

>>166850190
Did you have soldiers above the gate (not behind) on teh walls? Same for towers. Have to be adjacent but sounds like you had a bug

>>166850204
Announcement of the Old World at most

>>166850396
>Releasing Old World edition
>Without announcing New World edition.

>>166850384
I had soldiers in every area of control possible so I could man every tower and use the gate. It was definitely a bug.

>>166850384
>>166850524
There's a bug the specifically affects marrienburg for some reason. its towers don't work