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Don't believe his lies edition.

Blood drunk: 166474938

>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr (embed)

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv (embed)

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj (embed)

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX (embed)

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp (embed)
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PURGE FILTH
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>>166592798
>(embed)(embed)
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>make the last 6 threads in a row
gimme a break fuckboys
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Reminder to IGNORE TRIPFAGS.
Namely Luci
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Guy who bitched about Logarius here

Is HLMS and Wheel a good weapon set for a 25/50 STR/ARC build?
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>>166593537
Yes, Nourshing gems for both. Normal/Lost for HMS, Uncanny/Lost for Wheel.
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>>166593189
It doesn't matter really, he want to be filtered by the one who already know him and tell him to fuck off, so he can trick the newfags freely
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When's the earliest I can pick up a lost Chikage?
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>tfw you kill BLB with a guy in random coop and he messages you saying the gem wasn't good enough and you get sucked into 1 hour of farming cursed BLB
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>>166593849
FRC Ihyll, check the OP
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>>166594063
FRC Ihyll doesn't seem early.
Oh well.
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AHH
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FUck laurence
rest in hell you burning bastard
fuck it, fuck fromsoft, fuck kojima, fuck you
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The doll is mine.
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>>166593643

Fuck... let me guess. those gems are only found in Chalice Dungeons?
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Recommend me a build (please). I've played str/skl, skl, str, and skl/arc.
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>>166595071
99 ARC Broccoli
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>>166595071
Try bloodtinge then.
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>>166595071
Str/Arc a best, Wheel and Moonlight Sword are two of the most fun weapons in the game.
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>>166595071
Str/Arc, Str/Blt. Skl/Blt is a meme if you don't go 50/50.
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Can you imagine if you could puke on people in real life and make them go crazy and explode in a cloud of blood?
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>>166595071
Pure arc or pure bloodtinge is very fun. I suggest arc though because I enjoy it more
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>>166595036
There's 2 in the main game but are pretty shit, the 15% Radial in Mergo's is eh. You're better off going into CD's, it's almost required for Arcane builds.
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>>166594448
>fuck kojima
Kek.
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>>166595159
>>166595164
>>166595197
>>166595256
>>166595447

Thank you good hunters
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>>166594320
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>>166595421
>sucking some faggots cock
>deepthroating hard
>puke on "accident"
HAHAHA BET HE DIDN'T SEE IT COMING
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>>166595447
All of this, just to be able to do what dedicated strength/skill builds can do as good or better with paper.

Just the Kos Parasite is enough, what else sets broccoli apart?
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>>166595447
What's the difference between pure arc and arc/str? You need to get str to 20 to even use some arc weapons like logarius spin spin, so I don't see how it's much different from 25.
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>>166595710
You don't understand. Paper adds 80 damage to a weapon. Gems REPLACE physical damage with elemental damage. You can swap out gems to take proper advantage of elemental weaknesses. And str/skl can't use cool sorceries like augur, executioner gloves, and acb
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>>166595752
>What's the difference between pure arc and arc/str?
"Pure" Arc is Tools/ Parasite/ starter weapon -only, and goes to 70-99Arc.

Str/Arc is 25/50 and designed for Wheel, HMLS, some converted weapons, and Tools.
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>>166595752
either 18 for whirlimeme or 25 for wheel
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>>166595468

too bad I have no fucking materials for any of those dungeons. Jesus christ From must fucking hate Arcane hunters.

Also, how in the mother of fuck am I supposed to beat those two hunters after Ludwig? Im just going to straight up grind until level 100, and then do DLC, Yahargul and Mensis then. Jesus fucking christ. I think its time to put this game away for a couple of months
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>>166595752
Pure Arc let's you invest more into Arc past 50 for insane Hunter Tool damage with little to no investment into Str/Skl. Some people prefer having more weapon options, some like seeing how powerful Hunter Tools can get.
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>>166595928
>>166595994
Is it worth it to use the Parasite with 25/50, or should I just stick with tools and my converted stake driver?
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>Fighting Bloodletting Beast
Does this get an award for the worst designed and most boring boss in the whole game or what?
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>>166595985
Man you're really unpleasant to respond to. Can you like fuck off or just stop complaining so goddamn much?
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>>166595924
Say that to my face fucker and not online and see what happens
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>>166596176
You're welcome
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>>166595985
There's a guide in the OP you can follow for CD's, it's not that hard really. Go for the one in black first, spam Exe gloves to stagger her and stunlock her with a Fire Saw Spear or whatever you're using. Then go for the one in white, BSE has a limited range and she walks slowly so it's easy to sperate them. You can also just ignore them. Arc builds get easier once you know how to use them.
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>>166596143
I used to think so, but he's acrually just as exploitable and easy as all the other bestial enemies.

Just hug the blade of his left foot.

>>166596125
Milkweed Parasite, as I understand, is garbage in PvE at any Arc level, but at 50 it's just fine for PvP.
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>>166596143
No
that goes to boss brainsucker
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>>166593537
>25/50 STR/ARC
>bitched about logarius
lol
I feel you
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>>166596152

>quit complaining about a game that is notoriously difficult

Sorry mate, i dont know what else to do at this point. I get called a shitter if I go online for guides, and if I say Im having trouble with a part they just say to summon help. and then if I try to grind, I get called a worthless shitter for beating the game by myself at level 98. I just cant win. You cant imagine how frustrated this game had made me. Ive actually enjoyed playing it, but in my opinion the difficulty spike after Byrgenwerth is totally ridiculous.
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>>166596353
Exploitable, but that doesn't make him a good design or even bearable. Fighting him feels like a chore even when you find out how to kill him.
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Previous thread: >>166474938
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>>166596590
>You cant imagine how frustrated this game had made me
No I think I can.

>I get called a shitter if I go online for guides, and if I say Im having trouble with a part they just say to summon help.
I responded to your post about Logarius asking you to tell me what what giving you trouble and to describe your setup but you ignored it to accept the help.

>I get called a shitter if I go online for guides
>and then if I try to grind, I get called a worthless shitter for beating the game by myself at level 98. I just cant win.
No one' called you a shitter, someone actually pointed you to a guide, and so far the only person making a huge pain in the ass commotion over anything is you.

>but in my opinion the difficulty spike after Byrgenwerth is totally ridiculous
You should have don't the first couple chalice dungeons by now and gotten some decent gems.

If you're running Phys, you could have a set of 20%s already, and if you're running Arc, you could have a set of 16%s.

You're running underpowered and blaming the game for your mistake.
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>>166596590
>and if I say Im having trouble with a part they just say to summon help

The online function exists to be fucking used, also who gives a fuck what autistic gem grinding faggots call you on /bbg/? Nobody liked Fromsoft elitism.
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>>166596940

I got someone to help me with Loggy. I can take a pic of my current stats if you want, Im level 74. I beaten Cainhurst, Rom and Ludwig. anything after either of those paths I have been able to get past.

Ive been using a +8 Whirligig that has a fire gem in it, with the Tonitrus as a backup. Ive gotten thru the two basic CDs so far, the one with the first firedoggo and then one with an easy final kin boss. I dont have the right materials to do any others, though I do have five total chalices.

I really do apologize for coming off as so hot-headed. this general has been really nice and welcoming to me, I am just a drunk fuck-up with a short fuse
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I wish you didn't need to go all the way to the mensis brain for the pthumerian ihyll, you're practically at the end of the game then
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So /bbg/ I had fallen in love with the Stake Driver, my question is what sort of build should one take to maining this weapon? I understand the weapon does well on using Quality but I'm also aware of ramping Arcane up the ass for those reality-warping Oil-Urned R2's
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>>166597728
Well, unless you're really good it seems unlikely you're strong enough to get through ihyll without a blood rock anyway
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>>166598000
I've been using an arcane build and I've had zero regrets. The stake driver DOES have range problems, but hunter tools alleviate them a lot. And you're not missing out on much damage by using fire gems throughout the maingame instead of quality build, as long as you kill hotdog a couple times for some decent gems.
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Never been to a Root Chalice Dungeon before. In the OP is there a list of some easier ones I could go to? Kinda confused how it works
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>>166598000
Both work fine, I prefer Fire Stake for the Urns though. Makes farming Amy miles easier with a 25/50 Str/Arc build.
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>>166598245
Just create one and do it, it's fun.
All the map layouts and enemies are randomized.
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>>166598245
You don't need to do roots, FRC ones are usually the only ones worth making and they're at the end of CD's.
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>>166598245
How much have you done with regular chalices? Root chalices just randomize the layout. You can also add extra challenges on it that increase the rewards, so you could always just make a chalice/search for one with SRRC that doesn't have FRC rituals added.
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>>166598384

I have only done two of them that the game gives you. I know there are codes for these Root Dungeons, and I need some nourishing gems for my STR/ARC build
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>>166598245
Root Chalices are randomized versions of the dungeon you found them in. For instance, an Isz Root Chalice is just a dungeon that looks like Isz, has Isz enemies and bosses, but is completely randomzied in its layout, enemies locations and what bosses you get. It's the same for every other chalice.

Every root chalice you make has a glyph, a string of letters and/or numbers, this is its unique ID which you can search for, for free, at headstones, providing you have the corresponding root chalice (you need a Loran Root Chalice to use a glyph for a Loran Root Chalice, and so on).

They use the same Depth measurement for difficulty as story chalices, but this time you can also add Foetid, Rotted or Cursed rites (FRC for short) using specific materials. Foetid and Rotted make enemies harder or make harder enemies spawn, Cursed chalices cut your health down significantly, but they're also where you get the absolute best gems.

Just go to a headstone with enough materials and make a root of your choice, if you're unsure about all this, make a Depth 3 one, one of the early Pthumeru ones, and have a look around.
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>>166598160
>>166598268
It's only my first playthrough so I think I may have messed up an efficient build regardless having my points spread 18/17/18/15/6/13. I think both Quality and Fire Stake-builds are possibly beyond the point of salvaging without having wasted several levels. I'll fix this for the second character next time.
Anyone have the specific values for such a build?
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>>166598557
You need to beat the regular dungeons to get high level root dungeons

Ignore the root dungeons until you get root cups for ailing loran/ihyll/isz, and use the gems from nightmare of mensis to get through the regular versions. The root chalices are found in the regular versions. There's a guide to get to the end level chalices as fast as possible in the OP
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>getting hit through walls

I have hated this shit in every single souls game and it still makes me mad every single time it happens to this day.
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>>166598712

Damn it... no Nourishing gems for me to finish up my first playthrough then.
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>>166598696
Okay, first of all, don't put any more points into endurance (which doesn't give much for every point in it) or bloodtinge (which doesn't help stake driver at all). Your STR/SKILL is fine, I think; you can't exactly bring them much lower since stake driver has high minimums to wield. get VIT to 20 or so, then dump points right into ARC from now on. If you want Quality, ignore arc and dump all points into STR/SKL. You're pretty much fine, just no more BLT or END and pick either ARC or STR/SKL
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>>166598846
There's a 15% nourishing radial in Mergo's Loft my dude
there's a 9% nourishing triangle in the path from the forbidden woods to the clinic to tide you over until then
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>Djura was right
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>>166598696
Either aim for 50/25/15 Str/Skl/Arc or 18+/15+/50. You could go 25/50 Str/Arc for HMS, Wheel, Toni and Boomhammer too. 40-50 Vit, ignore Blt and maybe End if you feel comfortable at 18 (don't go over 20).
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what would be a good build for converted weapons at SL98? not bothered with using tonitrs or anything like that. preferably with 18 str 12 skill for whirli
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>>166596590
>boohoo I'm not living up to anyone's standards
perhaps if you got good then you wouldn't have these problems
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>>166600093
Cruel Fate: 40+/12+/18/14/5/50. After that whatever extra Vit/End you can fit in.
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>>166598934
>>166599409
Thanks for the help really Off to Megapunch the world
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>>166595983
Is the whirligig actually a good converted weapon? My friend says it's better pure STR, they think the same thing about the Kirkhammer
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>>166600746
Alright
Also, I know I said to stop putting points into VIT at 20, but I meant just for now. The other guy was right in that 40+ is where you wanna end up, and don't be afraid to level VIT if you feel it's to low throughout the game
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bowblade counters defiled amygdala pretty hard
I didn't even have to cheese
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>>166600875
Any converted weapon is good when Cold Abyssals exist.
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>>166600459
alright thanks
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>fall through the sea into another dimension
>fighting a really fat spider that casts magic by flopping around
loving it

I have a couple of noob questions though.
1) I'm running about with my weapon transformed at almost all times (the starting axe) is this a bad idea?
2) What is the purpose of bigger guns? Aside from damage. Do they give you a bigger parry window or something?
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>>166601770
Nah, tricked Axe is probably the best mode but untricked is okay. Cannons are for burst damage, can't parry.
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>>166601770
make sure to save the clip
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>>166601770
>1) I'm running about with my weapon transformed at almost all times (the starting axe) is this a bad idea?
No, but you're using a restricted moveset of your weapon. Untricked axe is faster and allows use of your gun, and the transformation attack also has some uses (tons of rally)

>2) What is the purpose of bigger guns? Aside from damage. Do they give you a bigger parry window or something?
You mean firearms like the cannon? They do a lot more damage and stun/knockback but they don't parry at all.
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>>166601770
Nah. The only downside is that you can't parry since it's two handed, but you can always transform back if you need to. The only weapon that is bad to run around transformed always is the Chikage, but that's because it sucks your HP.

The shotguns have a big spread, so enemies are more likely to get hit by them when flailing around. The cannons and such can't parry, but do a shitload of damage. They practically don't scale at all and have crazy str requirements, though, so they're mostly for strength builds that don't use bloodtinge (which is most of them).
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>>166597368
Sorry some IRL stuff came up.

If you're BL74 you should have 50 Arc. Or at least 40. If you don't you're shortchanging yourself.

I don't know who you mean by easy final kin boss, but if you've been through Pthumerian Labyrinth, you should have at least two 10% fire radials in that 'Gig.

You could/ should probably open 8i29rqz3 and buy a Lost version, sonce you'll get good Fire Wanings in Loran.

You should do Central Pthu, Lower Pthu at least to Layer 2, and Ailing Loran.

Use pic related to gather the chalice materials. If you don't have enough to open the next one, you can open previous ones again for free by searching for ones other players have opened.

Your priority for now should be getting two better Radials and/or a better Waning for the 'Gig. You can get up to 16% from the two flaming spear pthumerian "hollows" in the Layer 1 pre-lamp bonus area of Lower Pthumeru.

After that, you can get 15% Fire and Bolt wanings in Loran. Bosses there can also drop Bloodstone Chunks.
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>>166601896
>>166601991
>>166601995
Thanks.
>>166601959
I've been blown up because of my own greed several times now.
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Just breezed through Loran with those shitty gems.
I don't know why people say that arcane is difficult.
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>>166603010
It's definitely more complicated, and the very first parts of the game can suck
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>>166603010
To be perfectly fair, that's a serrated fire weapon used against beasts. You're doing something like 30+% more damage than you would be using a non-serrated, non-fire weapon.
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>>166603089
>get saw spear
>see enemy
>mash r1
>see boss
>use fire paper
>use beast blood pellet
>mash r1
>dead boss

EZ fucking game
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>>166603010
They read that retarded "guide" and think they can do the whole game with a Saw Spear and the CW 8% waning.

At this point I'm certain that thing has done more harm than good.
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>>166603290
That's true for literally every build
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>>166603309
But you can finish the game easily if you slot the 2 Hotdog gems with it, which the guide mentions.
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>>166603495
Two 10% and the CW waning are not even close to enough to sufficient for most people to finish the game.

Main game maybe, but not the DLC and not depth 4+ chalices.
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>>166603665
Says you, I've done all of that several time with the shitty gems just fine.
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so I beat yharnham... it was surprisingly underwhelming... so uh what now?
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>>166603824
>most people
Hurr durr not me :^)

Me neither dipshit, but that doesn't explain the thread being full of "wahh Arc is 2hard" posts the last few weeks.
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>>166603665
My first blind run I didn't even touch chalices before finishing both story and dlc. Now I run chalices first and I'm completely overpowered for the story and dlc.
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>>166603965
27s
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>>166598745
it's okay because you can hit enemies through walls too, and that makes cheesing them so much easier. At least it's only melee attacks that go through.

Pthumerian Descendant's boomerangs going through pillars is stupid though. I guess it is still considered a melee attack
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After 100+ hours I was finally summoned for the hunter of hunters

They immediately ran to the boss fog and I got booted back
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>>166604131
like the getting those particular 27% gems?
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>>166604036
What else would you add to the guide to help them aside from the fire gems then? The guide is decent, most of the shitters complaining are just shit.
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Is the regular chikage worth using until you can pick up a Lost one?
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Making a black girl in BB was harder than I thought.

How did I do, bbg?
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>>166604419
Stick to regular. If you're going for full 27.2% Phys you don't have to get Lost. If you're going for OoS, farm the gems then pick which version you have the gems for. Only get Lost if you're gonna switch out the 27.2% Phys Triangle for a 31.5% Circle.
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>>166604505
>blonde hair on a black woman
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>Finally get ps4
>Buy Bloodborne, expect it to be dogshit because of how much of a meme it is
>Its literally as good as people claim it is
>Can't even go back to Dark Souls, it feels clunky and just not as enjoyable.
>Literally GOTYAY
>Mfw I own nine ps4 games now but I keep coming back to Bloodborne
PC users are seriously missing out I feel so bad for them.
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>>166604267
yes
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>>166604036
Even the worst shitter should be able to glove or BSE the harder bosses to death
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>>166604386
For people not capable of beating Ludwig I'd at least make a mention of the potential 16% fire radials from Lower Pthu, and the 15% wanings from Ailing Loran.

Hell, and the 20%s from Lumpy for people who want to use BBPs and Paper.
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>>166604505
Not gonna lie m8, that's pretty hideous. But this is the From character creator.
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>>166604705
I know what you mean

I still like souls but I can't stand it unless I'm a 0% encumbrance no-shield hunter wannabe
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>>166604505
>make a white girl
>color her darker
>call her black
Are you japanese?
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>>166605248
One thing I'm really enjoying about Borne so far is how its forced me to git gud. I was always a turtling shieldlord in Souls. Its a nice change of pace not playing like a coward.
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How does one do the yahar ghul skip?
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>>166605923
Wew lad never mind
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>>166605246
I tried. I usually play pale girls until I saw this while climbing up a ladder soaked in blood.
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Who /nohud/ here?
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>>166604505
>same sliders of your other character that you excessively post here
>made her skin darker

wow nice slider skills uwu
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Whats the frenzy res I need to be able to use bloodletters L2?
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If anyone has a low-level character lying around, I'd appreciate a hand with Amelia, just to get it over with.
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>>166606419
I think around 180 per attack.
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>>166606383
Thanks m8, I appreciate it
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>>166606419
180 is the minimum, ideally you'll want a lot more in case you rack up enough Insight to get procced again.
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>>166604705
it's especially hard to go back to normal weapons after using trick weapons
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>>166606830
Weapon arts are a piss poor substitute
Even the blandest trick weapons outclass any weapon art
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>>166606830
It's hard going from the hunter axe/burial blade to the halberds/scythes/reapers, sweet spots made them impractical.
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>>166607421
yeah sweet spots are garbage. just use the best halberd in the game, the drakek axe
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>Summon for blood starved beast
>Not paying attention during the fight, get posioned
>Boss dies, coop partner emotes a goodbye
>Emote back, die from poison before the emote ends
>Last thing he sees is my stupid ass dying
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>>166606830
What the fuck am I supposed to use in Dark Souls that can replace the Rifle Spear?

At least Monster Hunter has my original love, the Gunlance
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Replying to the poor fool form last thread who hadn't realized the truth about beasts.

>>166591923
>Maybe I havent seen the ones you're talking about because they all attack me unprovoked.
Yeah. Sounds about right. But there are beasts who outright refuse to attack you.
> Beasts that attempt to kill you on sight for no reason.
Self-preservation isn't "no reason"
>I've always assumed the Beggar was a human that was infected similar to Father Gascoigne
Literally ALL beasts have that as an origin you goober.
>. But the beast cowers because they all have a fear of fire, not because its upset you desecrated the icon
No. This behavior cannot be replicated with a torch.
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>>166608939
What do the beasts in Old Yharnam eat, anyway? I assumed they required blood to survive. The beggar obviously eats humans, but there's no humans left.
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>>166609210
>What do the beasts in Old Yharnam eat, anyway?
Great question. I always assumed they ate Rats and Crows. any sort of urban pests that grow big and numerous around Yharnam.
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>>166609210
>>166609329
Maybe they eat each other.
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>>166608939
Not the guy you're replying to but the beasts in Old Yharnam do cower away when you're holding a torch.
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>>166609591
Yes but not the way this particular one does.

It doesn't even fucking MOVE. It just sits there half standing, shielding itself with it's hands. This type of beast isn't even fucking scared of fire usually. It's one of the ones wearing a hood.
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>>166602213

wait, I can get to Nightmare Frontier without going through this Unseen Village cancer for now?I used my Short Root Chalice for this first time just now and it was pretty easy. thanks for the response btw
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>>166609726
Oh cool, is it a female beast in Old Yharnam?
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>>166609959
Yes. On the right hand side of the Beast Cathedral near to the wall. I think I might have a screenshot lying around.

Pretty sure it always behaves that way if you've burnt the shrine.
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>>166609808
yes, you just need to set foot in the forbidden woods and then return to any window in yharnam and patches will give you the tonsil stone. or you can find patches in the forest.
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>>166610057
>>166609959
>>166609726
>>166609591
Here. Tracked down my pic.

There's only one beast in the whole game who uses this animation.
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>>166610136

awesome. should I be doing the standard chalices first then before fucking with the Custom CDs then?
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Is there an NPC summon for the Pthumeru Descendent in the Ithyl chalice? Getting tired of this guy. Almost killed him, but then I got reckless and was killed by his stunlocking combo. He's just a lame version of Logarius' sword attacks with a cramped arena that fucks up the camera to boot and a throwing blade attack that hits through walls.
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>>166610663
yes. you can do roots or enter glyphs before layer 5 but you'll just be wasting time mostly. sometimes you can find lost/uncanny shit.
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/04/chalice-dungeon-flow-chart.html
scroll down to the speedrun guide
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>>166611305
what did he mean by this
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>>166611305
It's ok.
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>>166611305

god damn it wrong pic
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>>166611305
Could be better.
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>>166611473
See you in 3 days
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>>166604505
Pretty good for someone whose never seen a beautiful negress before!
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>>166611942
>beautiful negress
heheheheh
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Radial, radial, triangle is best for physical damage on weapons, right?
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>>166613124
Yes
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Can sinister chalices be FRC'd? Will they give me the same qualitybof gems as a regular Depth 5 FRC Chalice? Do people still use tr invade function on the SRRC?
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>>166615301
No, they don't have the curse rite. People rarely use SRRC for invading since it's only possible outside of story dungeons. I've been invaded maybe 3 times from gem farming co-op.
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>>166615438
Oh that's a shame. Thank you.
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>>166604505
>I've never seen a black person in my entire life
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>>166592798
So D&D is over, was great fun but I've sorta sprinted to Cainhurst and I'm sitting outside of Logarius' area needing some help.

BL44 pass is bbg4me
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Quick /bbg/. It's 2015, the DLC for Bloodborne has just been announced and the only information you have is a leaked screenshot of pic related in this post:
>>166615301

What is your reaction/thoughts? Would you even believe it's real?
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Thrust isn't a constant modifier like Righteous or Serrated right? I was going to make a bolt Church Pick to shove in various kin-holes but I guess I'll stick with the Toni for now.

Also is there a recommended level range for spelunking or is it just as high as you want to go?
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>>166615839
I'd call it real; like Patches always turning up except in DaS2, some sort of Moonlight-based Sword would have to appear eventually. However, the wielder in both name and form would sow seeds of doubt
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>>166615957
Thrust is a property of each move, and only when it's physical damage.
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>>166615839
Ah shit, idk.
I probably would've thought the HLMS had to have been shopped as a meme
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Thanks Hibiki!
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>>166615957
You can spelunk at whatever level, 98 connects with most people.
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>>166615301
It is possible to spawn a bell maiden in a frc dungeon either by summoning or by having one as a mob of that dungeon. I managed to get one as a mob in a chalice I made yesterday.
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>>166616426
Mob maidens usually don't open you up to invasios unless you're in a sinister or in nightmare frontier/mensis.

Fun fact: you can have two people invade you if you use a sinister chalice and use your bells to soand a second one.
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>time to hit up chalices for good gems
>suddenly want to make a new build

Every fucking time.
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>>166615839
>>166616056
>>166616110
>if you beat Amelia and you get this secret item that's an eye and you take it to cathedral ward a secret invisible alien will pick you up and transport you to a nightmare version of Yharnam that's all twisted. And there you find Ludwig but he is actually now a beast horse but when you're about to beat him stands up like a human and talks to you and he actually has the Moonlight Greatsword and it talks to him and after you beat him you can get his sword but you need to be wearing the church set before talking to his head

Fuck off Cody, go tell your fanfiction about secret ash dragon worlds under trees to someone who cares
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Anyone wanna stomp Old Yharnam with me real quick?

Pass is still bbg4me
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>>166617039
No but you don't get it, if you shoot all the credits you unlock Sonic.
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>>166617018
Better than doing a new build that is mostly the same as the old one but with small differences you think will make it much better. But after making it, it's basically the same anyway.
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is the beast cutter a quality weapon?
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>>166617039
Exactly what I mean, it's ridiculous sounding
Well done
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>>166617018
>All character slots full
>love them all too much to delete
>sudden desire to make a new one
FUG

>>166617647
Been doing this pretty much since launch
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>>166617748
Its a str weapon
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Has anyone ever lost it when they saw that Chalice Dungeon guy with the mace that just keeps rolling? I actually died one to him because the very sight of him made me laugh to much.
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Thanks for carrying my stupid ass lol Hibiki.
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>>166617826
I laughed the first time I saw him
I'm not laughing anymore
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>>166617826
He's supposed to be a Ds1 havel fat ninja roller shitter parody.
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Hypothetical Bloodborne movie cast

The Hunter: Cillian Murphy
Plain Doll: Kristen Stewart
Gehrman: David Bradley
Eileen: Gwendoline Christie
Master Willem: Bill Nighy
Alfred: Sam Claflin
Micolash: Rufus Sewell
Father Gascoigne: Liam Neeson
Djura: Kenneth Branagh

BONUS ROUND: OLD HUNTERS
Ludwig the Holy Blade (voice): John Hurt
Lady Maria: Kristen Stewart
Simon the Harrowed: Dan Stevens
Brador: Tom Hardy
Orphan of Kos: Doug Jones
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What are the most common builds/weapons in PvP right now? I wanna be a hipster.
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>Hunter's Dream
Is this an error? Shouldn't it be hunter's nightmare?
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>>166618183
>Micolash: Nicolas Cage
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>>166618183
>The Hunter: Cillian Murphy
For some reason, I'm okay with this
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>>166617748

Str/Skl, yeah. Get to 50/25, get two blunt gems and one abyssal str scaling gem, that'll be your best damage.
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If a second DLC was released where all it did was add Marvelous Chester from DaS, would you buy it?
He clearly belongs in a time closer to that of BB, and would be hilarious in the right situations.
>Get shoved off the cliff by Patches in the Nightmare Frontier
>Come across rock formation which cannot be climbed
>Chester is sitting at the top
>"Quite unfortunate of you to join me down here. As you may see, there is only room for one, and I am not moving. You may wish to put some spring in your step, you've surely noticed the poison seeping through your veins. And if you survive, please rescue me."
>Light lamp in Amygdala's Chamber
>"Took you that long to get here, I see. Good thing I just snuck on by while you distracted, er, that thing out there. Oh, chin up, if the roles were reversed, you'd've done the same!"
It could even work in the dungeons
>Pitch-black room
>"Rather dark, isn't it? Why not give some light?"
>No one around after pulling out a torch
More than anything, I just want to see this guy's sneering face and hear his snarky voice again
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>>166618958
I want to see a DLC about going to an ancient city of Great Ones hidden under the ocean.
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>>166618189
Quality, Str, Skl, Blt, Str/Arc, Arc. Last two are less common than the others in my experience. Go Blt/Arc if you wanna be different, won't fit into 98 effectively without having sub-40 Vit.
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Any tips on cheesing Simon as early as possible?
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>>166618389
FUND IT
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>>166619146
Get him to switch to bow mode, stand about 8 feet back and spam bullets at him
Every other one should parry him
You'll eat an arrow but you'll get the health back on visceral
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>>166619146
Poison Knives, parry (Bowblade arrows can be parried), hold a shield to block arrows as his health goes down. BMA Repeating Pistol is good too. Co-operators can't hurt Simon but they can block him near the small door so you can use charge attacks to clip him.
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>>166619094
I likewise want that, mostly a feature allowing us to take boats above the Bottomless Sea and fight randomly generated bosses. But I still want Chester back
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>>166618183
>doll
>american
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>>166619704
>actors can't act as different nationalities
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>>166618183
>Micolash: Rufus Sewell

This is actually pretty good, honestly.
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>>166619786
Kos...or some say Kosm...
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>>166619883
I could see it, but could he pull off a good Micolash?
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>>166619994
Someone should make an edit of that pic for Micolash.

Mr. Filch played Gehrman is perfect considering his VA voices Filch in the Harry Potter games
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>>166619136
Man, 50/50 builds dont fit into any reasonable SL level. Shame, ARC/BLT sounds kinda cool.
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>>166619883
I've only ever seen him in Dark City and I don't know if he has the right temperament, but damn if he isn't visually perfect for the role.

Speaking of Dark City, if Richard O'Brien were still with us, he'd be perfect for Micolash, the mad bastard.
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>>166620131
Any 50/50 build that isn't Blt/Arc can fit into 120 and below effectively, Blt/Arc can fit 49/49 with 40 Vit and one Blt weapon at 120 though.
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Anyone wanna help me with ailing Loran abhorrent? I can never do this bastard myself. Pass is bbg
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>>166620241
People seem to stick to SL 100 around here. Is there much action at 120?
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>>166620131

You can get them or pretty close around 120. Although it's easier to do 50/25/25 in that area, and more fun!
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>>166618189
Pretty sure rifle spear is the most hipster weapon in the game ever since the nerf.
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>>166620371
I unironically like the rifle spear
Almost entirely because I play gunlance in MonHun
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>>166620335
80-120 is universal meta (and for our FCs) but 98-117 is preferred here. Reddit goes up to 150, and that's not counting other shitters who overlevel so there's plenty action at 120.
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>>166620251
>got distracted by your ring while red spiders were coming
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>>166620460
Do people do FRC chalices at 98, then?
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>>166620335
I stay around 117-120 since I like builds that handle as many weapons as possible to reuse the grinding of gems, and I can easily get coop via SRRC instantly any time and for dlc bosses (I didn't try much story bosses and I don't pvp)
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>>166620551
Of course, some Twinks go into FRC at 43. FRC is not that hard once you've spent some time in several CD's.
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>>166620457
I like the Rifle Spear mostly because of what it is in-game. The Powder Kegs, in a possible attempt to replicate a signature Cainhurst weapon, essentially taped a Blunderbuss to the end of a makeshift spear and called it a weapon.
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>>166620174
>if Richard O'Brien were still with us
Uhh anon, he's still alive
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Thanks Hibiki!
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>>166620709
Speaking of twinks how fun is an arc twink to fuck with people as broccoli/micolash? Is it worth the effort?
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>>166620835
>check to see if it's true
>it's true
>mfw

I always think he's dead for some reason
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>>166621121
>not only is he alive, he isn't actually gay and married a 35 year old woman when he was 70

Fucking madman, I've been in the dark
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>>166621098
As Mico I dunno, but as a Broccoli it's pretty fun. Biggest challenge is getting the Parasite from Orphan and maybe BriBri, HMPH and BLB for Isz & Ihyll roots. Flat Arc gems hit well at low levels, both with and without the Milkweed Rune. For the Parasite I had to resort to "cheesing" it for my Twink.
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>>166621098
Broccoli is the greatest twink of all
40 arc for shock and awe with ACB
I've got low vit, but all my gems are pulsing so I don't have to vial after blood bullets often and I don't kill my victims too quickly, and they really have to put the pressure on to finish me
Get pretty much constant invasions in the woods surprisingly
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>>166621416
Sounds like an interesting challenge. what would a stat load out look like? 25/12/10/9/5/32?
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>>166621626
Jeez. Tempting but I don't know f I could handle such low vit
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>>166621820
The only time I run into anyone who can do any kind of real damage to me is if they have a tonitrus, or if I invade cainhurst
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>>166621691
That's good, I'd swap 2 out of Arc and put it into Skl for Saif. You could do what >>166621626 said and go 40 Arc with low Vit too, I wouldn't recommend it unless you went full Mico/Kin mode.
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>>166621968
Hmmm. Decisions, decisions
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>>166621098

It's not as twinky, but you can also do arc invasions around BL70 in Mensis. Mensis is pretty good for invasions because it's a nightmare.
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>>166622262
What part of mensis? Just near the lamp?
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Why wasn't this enemy in Bloodborne?
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>>166623689
A better question is why did das3 try so hard to be both bloodborne and dark souls and fail spectacularly at both as a result?
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>>166623689
Because aside from the shoggoth, most of the shit in bloodborne is either inspired or amalgamated from lovecraft, not ripped.
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>>166623296

At the first lamp (frenzy beams don't affect you so you always have cover) and at the lamp immediately after Micolash. I also used to invade from the balcony where the bell maiden spawns in the leadup to Nurse, I'd often get people who were just arriving to kill the bell maiden and prevent them from doing so. Together with the two shadows there it's a pretty good setup for killing summons, and if you catch someone who's earlier in the level it's fairly easy to run back.
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>>166623689
Because what's the purpose of creating a giant hand, and what would be the situation in which someone become one? At least it has many eyes, but not a brain evolved enough to understand the great ones.
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>>166624057
Not every creature in Bloodborne was previously human.
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Wanting to bully Rom but she bullies right back because I feel bad for killing her, anyone wanna tag along?

bbg4me

Hibiki, if you're tired of helping me, heads up because this is Reagan again haha.
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>>166624471
Yes, I considered that after posting. Though i's be a waste in their perspective to have a great one without having at least some attempts of copying it's greatness, but at the same time making people into hands would be kind of silly.
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>>166618958
>that fucking dialogue
Please stop
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>mfw just noticed how similar a chalice I just made is to a previous one

They both had a lost wheel in pre lantern bonus area for layer 1 and both had a roaming pthumerian descendant in layer 3 and other things I noticed between them.
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>>166618183
Plain doll needs a tall pale girl with an accent, not Kristian "blank slate" Stewart.
Good choices otherwise
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I always wonder where Ludwig goes when he jumps. Does he crawl on the ceiling or something for those 5 seconds? There's no way to pan the camera up to see. The darkened ceiling makes me think he just jumps super high into the darkness
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whats your favorite bloodborne meme?
>pic related, mine
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>>166630532
oh and when i say meme i mean meme picture, otherwise itll all be people saying micolash
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>>166630532
Orphan of Feels
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>>166630510
I think he just clings to the ceiling and drips blood on you until he drops. Nothing else makes a bit of sense
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>>166630532
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>>166630786
kek
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well ive boogered my save file after fully completing the DLC and methodically doing everything, i suck and its all over im starting all over and wish you could all stand in a single file line to hit me as hard as you can.

i am restarting the game in the next 50 hours. should i even finish the file i am in now? i dont even care for that answer

things i want
>propose marriage to that one vileblood
>parasite of kos, brain fluid side quest
>fight every motherfucking boss god fucking damnit
>i want to be a part of every group, fight every boss and do everything this game has to offer.

motherfucking fuck i cant believe that shit with adeleine
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>>166630893
>game allows you 10 simultaneous save files, and limitless repetition of game cycles per file

>rage and restart because you missed something

It's gotta be tough living with OCD.
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>>166630893
You fucked up the Adeliene quest or something? It could still be done unless you killed her before she's out of the chair. Proposing to the Vileblood Queen can't be fucked.
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>Tfw don't want to kill Ludwig because he's so fun
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>>166631065
its a curse and a blessing you have no idea
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>>166630704
>That awkward moment when the meme edit is infinitely more popular than the original fanart
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>>166631080
i can be apart of so many groups....the crow died fighting someone with me. i am currently in the league. and theres like 9 other groups i cant join because no one can give me clear directions to do anything. there is probably rule 34 of the walkthrough im needing, but now the walkthrough itself. this is the internet 2017
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>>166631285
>and theres like 9 other groups i cant join because no one can give me clear directions to do anything. there is probably rule 34 of the walkthrough im needing, but now the walkthrough itself. this is the internet 2017
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>>166604505
As a black woman it's atrocious. But you nailed that japanese rebel look.
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>>166630532
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>>166631285
There's like, 4 groups dude. Radiance, Corruption, League, and Hunter of Hunters. Beast Embrace and Milkweed is the Beast/Kin mode. If you count badges (you don't actually "join" them) I guess there's Powder Kek, Spark Hunter, Saw Hunter, Radiant Sword, other sword badge, Otto, probably more don't remember. There's a guide for stuff like that in the OP but I'm not sure it covers everything. If this is your first playthrough don't worry about it. There's always NG+ and new characters.
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>>166631194
make a savescum and see if you can beat him super-stylishly and/or with no HUD
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>>166631592
yes....new characters. one day support for this game will die and i am extremely busy.
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>>166631951
You can copy saves? I was wondering if it was possible. Don't tell me it's a button on the menu I missed
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>>166632050
you copy your save data from the entire game to a USB stick or upload it to the cloud if you have PS+ (with auto-update-to-cloud disabled)

You have to do it through the main PS4 dashboard though, under Settings you can hit "Application Save Data Management"

You can also go into the accessibility options and swap Circle for L1
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>>166632147
Thanks, Anon! I'm practicing to git gud with him. Finding tons of ways to make it stylish too. No hud is too scary but I should get consistent so I can do that
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How well is the visceral attack scaling with skill? It feels like my BLT build is better off not even trying (nor would it be terribly easy with bloodletter being 2handed and the transform cost)
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>Fight Ludwig for 2 hours
>Turn off ps4
>Turn it back on 5 minutes later

Why is Ludwig so handsome
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>>166632435
Pretty sure viscerals scale solely on levels
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>>166632435

Best practice is to burrito. Turn away, hit R1, flip around and hit, continue mashing R1 to pick up the visceral. You'll get a decent amount of damage. Unless you can fit in an L1 maybe? Not sure about that though.

>>166632629

Hell no, they scale with your skill and the gems in your weapon.
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>>166632629
viscerals scale with skill you nutjob!

>>166632435
you can use a clawmark rune to up visceral damage without leveling skill, or you can do a charged r2 or unzip
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>>166632147
>swap Circle for L1

What does this do?
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>>166633118
it lets you move the camera around while sprinting or rolling. You will only press circle to transform your weapon or to do a transition attack that follows up another move anyway
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>>166633192
>not doing the claw grip
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>>166633397
nah fuck that. Not trying to get carpal tunnel or some shit

Swapping circle and L1 was one of the first things I did when I started playing bloodborne
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>>166633397
>not doing the ac grip
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>>166633192
I'm too far used to claw gripping anyway. Wouldn't feel like a souls/bb game without it
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>>166633397
>claw
>beasts

>Yfw the claw grip is the intended way to play

Gotta do the visceral attack irl too
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>>166633490
>not doing this grip
casuals
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>>166632147
>>166633118
>>166633486

I have to try this.
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>have a dream based around my bloodborne notes getting lots of foul ratings
how did it come to this
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Please, recommend some nice playthroughs of bb. They dont need to be of someone gud. Just fun to watch.
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>>166634010
I'd recommend DSP but you're gonna have to define "fun"
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>>166633868
>not knowing that that's the ac grip
next level ironic shitpost or are you just a poser?
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>>166634003
atleast it replaced the dreams i was having about my ex though atleast
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>>166634010
distortion2 does all kinds of speedruns
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>>166632559
he really is beautiful
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>>166634210

Could've gotten a full charge there buddeh
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>>166634074
I tried dsp. His voice seemed kinda annoying.
I also watched fightincowboy. He seemed ok at first but turned out boring and retarded.

Fun=not annoying+not a tryhard gitgudder+having fun.
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>>166634003
Truly a Hunter's Nightmare
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Does anybody else think Micolash should've had an Old Monk element to his fight?
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>>166635510
he knows kung fu
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>you will never be a Hibiki-level NEET
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>>166617806
just backup your save on a flash drive?
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>>166617748
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/p/weapons.html
scroll to weapon data and you can see the scaling for each weapon
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3x blunt or 3x nourishing for boom hammer?
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>>166637049
do you use the boom for utility or main?
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>>166637049
Depends on your stats and what you're killing. 25/50 Str/Arc Nourishings, 50 Str Blunts. The extra fire damage can be useful for most enemies weak to elements while resistant to Phys/Blunt like most Kin.
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stop bullying the pillars of the souls community guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZG_HwX0EPA
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>>166637143
I dunno. Main.
>>166637423
I want to say I'll get 50 str because I will get 50 arc minimum. The real dilemna is what level to stop at because 50/50 is not possible at lower levels especially with 50 vitality. I feel like 150 just ceases to be a theme and can do anything, and also seems pretty far away from the common range of 50-140 for co-op. PVP sucks in BB, I can't be assed so disregard that for me.
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>>166637615
this feels so good to see

top fucking keks
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>>166637679
Cruel Fate: 41/12/50/12/5/50 puts you at 120, 50 Vit isn't a huge difference and the minimum recommended is 40 as long as you use 2 Clock Runes.
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>>166638173
Hmmm, I can work with 40 vit. Thanks!
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Is the beginners hunters axe still pretty viable throughout most of the game? I don't really have a solid connection with any weapon other then this one.
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>give queen filthy executioner cum as a joke
>she eats it all up leaving no spill behind
wtf
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>>166638750
>what you were carrying around in your pocket
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>>166638681
Hunter axe is a 10/10 weapon.
it's good in all parts of the game
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>>166638681
yes its a good weapon.

Good for swapped blows.
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so i just finished my arcane build for converted weapons: 45/18/28/12/5/50
how'd i do?
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>>166638681
Every weapon is viable
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>>166632147
Once you have the file on a USB, can you duplicate it so you have two of the same save on the PS4?
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>>166638915
oops was 45/18/18/12/5/50
not 28
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>>166638858
>>166638912
Thx for letting me know.
Completely new to BBG, btw. I'm directly past Micolash in the main story and right at Living failures in Old hunters
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>>166638915
You could've swapped 2 out of End and put into Skl for Church Pick. Other than that, it's okay.
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>>166638941
there are trash weapons tho

BoM, BOOM H, Stakedriver and beast claws are all worthless outside of a handful of gimmicks between the 4
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>>166639069
BoM can be brutal in PvP and PvE, as can Steak Dinner.

Boom Hammer requires basically its own build of 50/25 but can also do insane damage.
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>>166639069
>B hammer
>Stake drive
>Shit
>Didn't mention threaded cane in the shit list

Unsubscribed
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>>166639069
BoM and Claw are great, Boomhammer and Stake are just boring aside from the charge r2s.
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>>166639184
Threaded Cane is actually good too though.
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>>166638985
Thank goodness. I was looking at that just going what the fuck. I don't have much experience with your build but it looks good to me
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>>166639294
yeah 28 would've made quite a good meme
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>Absolutely bullying invaders and invadees in mensis nightmare with the bloodletter

This feels almost unfair
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>>166638915
>can't use Church Pick
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>>166610709
learn 2 parry then equip triple clawmark
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>>166639231
it was untill beast cutter happened
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>>166639347
>This feels almost unfair
Blt is OP. Every Blt weapon is good already and being able to share phys gems is just icing on the cake.
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>>166639350
why would i want to use the church pick when i can use saif
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>>166630532
Nice to see some using my OC
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>>166639437
>Using saif
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>>166639350
does it actually have any advantages over saif? as im assuming youd use them both as bolt
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>>166639661
Serrated, Righteous, different moveset. Both are great.
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>>166639661
Better Ac scaling and Serrated and Righteous bonuses in both modes.
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>>166639828
>>166639350
>>166639640
if church pick is actually worth it i can restart my build and take 2 out of strenght (replace fire whiligig with just saw spear and still have 16 for hms for its arc beams) and put them into skill for church pick?
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>>166639896
Just dump 2 more points into Skl, no one cares about the 98 meme meta. Would not recommend 16/12/50 HMS either
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>>166639896
Cruel Fate: 45/15/18/14/5/50 can use every convertible weapon except Rakuyo and comes in at BL97.
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>>166638750
She can't resist the BEC.
Actually she can't resist any cock because that's how much of a qhore she is.
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>>166640007
i wouldnt use hms for its normal moveset, just its arc beams
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Thinking on doing a blt build, i know that for the chikage skill should stay at the minimum requirements but for the bloodletter should i go to 25 str or keep it at the minimum requirements, also what class is best to start with?
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>>166640034
guess im restarting my build then
goodbye well rated notes
is church pick best for bolt or fire?
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>>166640153
Minimum, Military Vet starts with the base Str requirement for Bloodletter and has the lowest amount of Arc. I'd get 15 Skl for Bowblade as well. 28 Str for Church Cannon and Gatling Guns if you wanna use the big guns.
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>>166639418
>every blood weapon is OP

reiter
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>>166640169
Any of 'em.

Fire's great for standard beasts, Arc is great for Darkbeasts, and Bolt and Arc are both great for Hotdog.
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>>166640274
A. Reiter is strong as fuck.

B. Reiter is also not a Blt weapon in the same vein as Chikage and Bloodletter. It's a Skl weapon with a gun.
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>>166640274
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Best version of Bowblade?
Best gem setup?
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>>166641268
>Physical/balance between sword and arrows
Normal

>Arrows only
Lost
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chikage is anti-fun
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>>166641798
honestly, yeah. The health loss is stupid. I only use it in the beginning before switching to bloodletter
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>>166641268
Oh, and adding onto >>166641689, 27.2's for all gem slots except for circle on the lost which can hold a 31.5
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>>166641835
>actually complaining about the most broken weapon in the game
toppest of keks.
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>>166642192
>most broken
When did he mention the Rakuyo?
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Do I go skl/blt or what with Spear-rifle?
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>>166642192
>having this poor of reading comprehension

Broken doesn't mean fun, and thats whats we're talking about here.
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>>166642447
You don't go anywhere with rifle spear
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>>166642447
25/50 Str/Skl, doesn't need any Blt investment past base. 10 Blt for Reiter.
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>>166638953
You can only have one save on the system storage at a time, per PS4 account. Same for the cloud storage and on each USB stick. You can just make backups of the save on the USB stick onto your computer, though, and then overwrite the one on the stick with a new one. It's merely a folder on the USB stick.
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hey mates, I have the eye of a blood drunk hunter but amygdala still just takes me to the lecture building, does anyone know what's going on? i still get the cutscene with patches laughing at me even though he's bloody dead. i've already cleared the lecture building and nightmare frontier.
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>>166642784
The one outside of Oedon Chapel takes you to the dlc.
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>>166642784
go to the amygdala who can pick you up right outside the cathedral ward lamp. You go out the door to the left and stand near the dead body lumped against the fence, where you found the hunter gear
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>>166642784
Wrong Amy. The one right outside Cathedral Ward.
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>>166642784
you're at the wrong amygdala! I heard Amygdalas prefer taking fancy hunter though
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Why did Simon or Brador not lose their mind like the other hunters in the hunters nightmare?
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>>166642843
>>166642860
>>166642879
>>166642881
that certainly would explain it, pretty damn embarrassing! cheers mates.
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>>166642956
several reasons
i can think of any though
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What the hell is an R2 (dash) move? This pic is from the stats for the Tonitrus moveset, and dash R2 is supposedly a "heavy" attack.

I tried all manner of dodging left right and forward before pressing R2, and the move is always just the same as when you press R2 while standing still. Same goes for rolling and pressing R2
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>>166643165
It's a running attack
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>>166643165
Running r2, most of Toni's attacks look the same since it has a bland moveset.
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>>166630704
>>166631254
Does anyone have the original image?
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>died 100 times just standing there in the hunters dream because I forgot my weapon had HP drain on it

oops, lol
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>>166643351
my favorite is seeing specters of people at the workbench who just keel over and die
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>keep trying different builds
>either get bored or put points in something then realise it wouldve made sense somewhere else
>scrap build
>tfw my only fc-ready build is blt salt-mining build with chikage and bowblade
guess il be a shitter again in the next fc
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>>166643165
Reminder that the guide is bullshit.
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Highlighted is the best PvE move in the game if you have enough stamina to do it 4 times in a row (so over 110)

>>166643530
Which guide? That pic is from www.bloodborne-wiki.com, which actually has very accurate and neatly organized data.
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>>166643501
>that fucking chromatic abberation
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WHEEL IS MY WAIFU
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>>166643501
>making different builds
>not just making one 50/50/50/99 build and using everything
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What did she mean by this?
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What is the easiest cursed pthumeru ithyll glyph to find a Pthumerian Elder on layer 3? I don't wanna fight no hemwick witches, spider whores, undead giant bosses or pthumerian descendant bosses/mobs on the way there. Preferably a dungeon with easy to pull levers.
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>>166643959
Those pics are ripped str8 outta the guide. Check the ssjnugget imgur in the OP
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>>166644131
you can do that too, but you should have an underleveled build with powerful gear so you can get matchmaking to connect you with noobs and you can show them your power level.

I just go around the game revisiting boss sites and hard areas and ringing my small resonant bell. It's fun showing a complete noob how to get through a really hard level. This one guy was amazed that I could defeat the nightmare executioner guarding Laurence 1v1 because he felt like he had hit a brick wall trying to fight it. And it is all thanks to wondrous blood gem
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>>166644131
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>>166644289
Just run through em, you don't even have to kill anything besides the bosses. I usually keep Beast Roar slotted in case I get crowded after pulling levers. Blue Elixir makes it easier.
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>>166644441
those pics are literally snipped from the bloodborne-wiki website and are formatted as a table in the site's global wordpress theme or whatever.

it says in a note at the bottom, even, that the data is from the guide and verified through http://darksouls2verificationdata.web.fc2.com/motion-bloodborne.html

just like the "Moveset Data" tab in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1doP2HShMmJcHZFTNSZ3yVFxbUu4U1aO6yHIk9-wQ1Wo/edit#gid=222193878

which is from /bbg/'s very own OP
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Am i too underleveled to take on lewdwig?
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>>166645685
No, take a screenshot next time
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>>166645685
is this bait?
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>Playstation Network is currently undergoing maintenance.
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>>166642956
Simon seemed to be investigating the Nightmare, and certainly wasn't blood-drunk. Brador was kept sane through the task appointed to him, and his weapon would have cleared any blood in him he didn't want
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Do cainhurst hunters drop anything good? I was starting an FRC isz dungeon I made and there was one right at the start facing away from the door for a visceral advantage.
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>>166645786
What makes you think that
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>>166646107
because next to the option button is the share button
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>>166646159
I-i mean i know that but the allure of convenience won by a landslide
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>>166645685
hold the share button down until you see the share menu and then edit the settings to "easy screenshots" then you can just press it once to take a screenshot and twice to start recording a clip
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>>166646270
Dear, oh dear. What was it? The PSN? The PS+? Or the monthly games? Oh, it doesn't matter... It always comes down to the Hunter's helper to clean up after these sort of messes.
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>>166645685
From what I can tell, you're running Blood Rapture runes, which will not be worth your time when fighting Ludwig. Try Clockwise and Anti-Clockwise. Otherwise, boost Skl and Vit in general, and maybe End with your using the BoM
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>>166646270
How the fuck is taking a picture of your screen more convenient than just using the screenshot feature
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>>166646607
Not that guy, but the fact you have to either transfer the screenshot through USB or send it to some social network is quite a reason.
Screenshot feature in PS4 is shit.
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>>166646685
it's literally the same thing as taking a literal picture of your screen except it takes maybe 30 seconds longer and there's no chance of it looking like shit or being fucking upside down
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>>166646093
I think all hunters drop the same gems as normal enemies but up to one rating higher (so rating 18 max)

The cainhurst ones are farmable but they have a lot of health so usually a backstab + visceral isn't going to take down even half his health, unless you are overleveled with 50 SKL
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Anyone want to help me get through research halls?
Password bbg NG lvl 71
Also is wheeling saw good for strength or should I stick with kirk?
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>>166646685
>take shot
>send to someone through PSN
>download from mobile with the app
>post here
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>>166646836
You can make a post straight from your phone though.
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>>166646847
I have 50 skill and lvl 117 and one backstab with the stake driver plus visceral plus a hit while he is getting up gets a little more than half, but I thought he could drop something a nice since he is much more annoying than bone ash hunters with the constant shooting you + visceral.
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>>166647029
yes, you can wipe your ass with toilet paper and then turn it upside down, but nobody will thank you for it
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>>166647016
All I've ever done
Compression is a bitch but whatever
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>>166646685
I don't see how it's more trouble than fumbling with a shitty phone keyboard to post. Just make a locked twitter account and upload screenshots to there and then grab them to post in the thread. It hardly takes any effort or time at all.
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im not letting my ps4 botnet connect to the internet idiot
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What do I do with this build guys? I've been using a +10 saif ,+9 rayukyo and threaded cane.
Should I put more points into arc for huntertools was thinking maybe get some bloodtinge for Madaras whistle maybe
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Dear, oh dear. What was it? The Chikage? The Wheel? Or the horrible memes?
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>>166647269
/v/ was right about phoneposters, at least
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>>166647407
its ok i use the official 4chan app
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>>166647358
Bloodborne is too Annie May for my taste.
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>>166647330
Blow it out your ass
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>defending half-assed PSN features
There's literally no reason for why you can't just send screenshots to an e-mail or have an online library for them as part of PSN or at least PS+ account.

Don't get me wrong, I agree that posting a proper screenshot is better than posting a blurry shit photo, but saying the screenshot feature is convenient is ridiculous.
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Ahh Kos...or some say, Kosm...you were at my side all along...
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>>166644072
uwot
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>nad this idea for dank SKL 98 build for coop and fun
>finished DLC
>done with Mergo
>two weapons +10
>untouched chalices
>almost no multiplayer done
I hate myself.
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>>166648532
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>>166648532
Fear the old Blood. By the gods, fear it, LAWrence
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who the fuck in bloodborne do you think actually says kosm apart from micolash?
>>
The Church Pick is hands down the best weapon for PvE.

It's serrated
It's righteous
It can hit the head of just about every big bitch in the game: Amygdala, Bloodletting Beast, Watchdog, Ludwig, you name it the transformed R1 can give it a headache

Are other weapons even trying?
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>>166648637
you can't be real
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>>166647330
Get at least 45 VIT for 1800 HP with the two health runes and maybe put the rest into END, just stop at BL110
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oh nice I just got a 27% bolt gem from watchers with kin down
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>>166648950
idk what it is, im not autistic
everyone who knows something i dont is autistic
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>>166648841
Nobody. He's the only one.
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>>166644582
Maybe I won't scrap my failed HMS/Wheel build https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/21780 and instead turn it into that

Thanks Luci, you're the best
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>>166648943
With HMLS and bowblade you don't even need to risk getting close to the boss for large damage.

All dlc weapons are top, except boom hammer and amygdalan arm.
>>
reminder not to reply to obvious bait or tripfags
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>>166649014
BB is plagued by chromatic aberration
just look it up
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>>166649136
Luci is the best poster in souls threads, take that back or I'll make an avatar of you and ass fuck it
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>>166649261
put your trip back on so I don't see your posts, luci "wrath of the gods" fer
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>>166649149
i never noticed it
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>>166649149
No don't listen to this fuck, once you see you cannot unsee

Ignorance best ance
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>>166649295
not luci, due to luci's extreme level of autism he cant post without using perfect punctuation even when he has his trip off
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>>166649381
that's what lucifer would say to make me think I wasn't giving him (You)s
no more from me, attentionwhore
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>>166649365
its too late anon... its too late
I wouldnt care anyway
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someone post a meme image for me to make a terrible edit to to make it bloodborne related like i did with pic related
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>>166649806
oh please do something with this kind anon! your meme material these last threads have been spicy to say the least
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>defiled hotdog is a few hits away from death
>charges when im out of stamina

fffffuuuuuuucck
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>>166649969
b-but i only made one image and it was that one
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>>166650024
>>166649969
doesn't matter anyways. I found this one in my folder
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>>166649806
someone post one otherwise i have to pick one myself and that isnt fun
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What's your favorite outlandish creature in Bb? They have some god tier designers over there I swear.
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>>166650121
Whats the lore behind those graveguard dudes?
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>Wandering Bergynwerth
>Running from bugs while I do the "Desperately sprint through a new area to grab anything I can before dying" practice
>Accidentally into the boss
>Die, go back and summon some help because fuck it I'm already there
>Moon goes crazy
>Now I'm hearing a baby
>Giant things on buildings now
>Eileen now cockblocking a lantern and want to splatter my guts all over the floor
I have several questions, but first and formost what the fuck did I do? Second is How the fuck do I beat this featherbrained bitch so i can get back to the Grand Cathedral lantern?

Also is there magic or have I been funneling points into arcane for nothing? I've been trying to go through my first playthrough blind but clearly that's been fucking me over.
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>>166650612
killing rom uncovered cheap memes
to kill eileen you must become one with the memes
arcane is used to summon top memes
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>>166650006
Holy shit did they buff queen killer? he stayed alive the entire time doing massive damage
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>>166650612
no magic, but tools that scale of arc. you should find one of them in the college for example
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>>166650406
Ebrietas
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>>166650612
killing rom is like taking the red pill, you see the world for how it really is
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>>166650779
You mean those weird items that are greyed out like the Beast Roar? I've been wondering what those do.

>>166650765
You mean "git gud" or are other, more potent, memes required?
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>>166650880
theres lots of memes to be found in bloodborne
awoooooooooooooo
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>>166648532
Dear, oh dear. What was it? The blood? The Kos? Or some say Kosm?
>>
majestic
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>>166650608
good thing you asked me, vaatividyaâ„¢. you see those graveguards guard the corpse of Eileen who later became The Wet Nurse

>>166650880
I don't think playing this game blind is your problem, but not reading and being retarded being underlying factor. If you had read anything you would have seen that theres an icon on those items that matche the arc icon. If they were grey the number next to your arc icon must have been lower than the number next to the arc icon of the item. You are now a brain surgeon
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>>166649130
>except boom hammer and amygdalan arm.
>aoe explosion
>three hit charged R2 with hunter's axe-tier range and stagger one handed
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>>166651108
Tonight gehrman joins the Kos, or some say Kosm...
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>>166650406
Brainsuckers, I'm a ho for off-brand Mindflayers
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>>166649130
>All dlc weapons are top, except boom hammer and amygdalan arm
All DLC weapons are top, Boom Hammer and Amydalan Arm included. The only exception is Fist of Gratia.
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>>166651278
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>>166651301
>>166649130
You fags don't get it, the Church Pick is the TOPS.
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>>166651301
>not even npc's use fist of gratia
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>>166651396
You get it from Gratia's body, she died because she relied on that piece of shit weapon.
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Is this the most underrated boss fight in BB?
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>>166651440
kek
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>>166651462
Yes, Laurence too imo
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Finally finished the Old Hunters.

How can anybody say that Orphan of Kos is the most difficult Soulsborne boss? His attacks are ridiculous easy to dodge.

Also, people who found Laurence hard were fighting him with lock on. Ludwig was EASILY the most challenging boss
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Anyone wanna help me with defiled amy? pass is bbg

I suck at amy, sorry in advance
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any tips for farming bone ash hunters? I got one that I can hit with a charged R2 and R2 followup (which does more damage than just a backstab+visceral for me) and it takes her down to 1/3rd health. But I have no stamina and I have to kill her before she takes a potion. She is so fucking dodgy and shooty. She fights like henryk and does so much damage with those fucking transition attacks for the saw spear
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>>166651560
Only people who used a STR weapon found Orphan easy.
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>>166651560
I beat ludwig on my third try. orphan was over 10, laurence was about 6.

difficulty differs person to person
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>>166651462
HMPH HMPH HMPH
He's pretty awesome, especially if you take him on without parries, literally Sweating Bullets: The Boss
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>>166651652

Was using Marias weapon untracked. Try again.

He was easy, literally git gud
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>>166651560
Accursed Ludwig killed me so damn much, I just couldn't read him.
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>>166651730
>tfw played through the entire game twice+dozens of chalice dungeons and still dont know how to parry correctly

I blame the Hunters' Axe
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>>166651818
it's not you, some enemies have arbitrary parry windows
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>>166651000
>awoooooooooooooo
Please tell me that you're implying I can be a werewolf.
>>166651161
Yeah I'll admit I've been pretty retarded in parts. I kept expecting this to have some sort of spellcasting weapon akin to the channeler staff but considering parrying is done with guns I should have expected this to not be a thing. Somewhat considering rerolling for a proper build because apparently there's an eventual weapon that scales off of arcane and has a transformation effect. Also to shove more points into vitality and generalyl not fuck up my build.
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>>166651818
>played through the entire game twice

how did you just play it twice? I'm on my 11th or so playthrough
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>>166652040
i got the game a month ago

also i dont have autism
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>>166651973
I think you should chill, go play the game, and leave the general until you're done. You never have wasted points in pve since there's nothing to scale with but yourself.
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>>166651973
>Please tell me that you're implying I can be a werewolf.

Beat Laurence in the DLC
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>>166652113
>autism

pvp builds mate. also i got the gam a year ago
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>>166652113
you're in the wrong place friend
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I'm the only one who preferred the first half of the game to the last half, arent i?

I preferred the hunter "feeling" over the cthulu shit
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>>166653141
I am with u men
I mean i still enjoy the game but somehow i just cant repicate that very scared excited feeling i got strugging with my life against the central yharnam people
Maybe i just got used to the game idk
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>>166648841
The great ones say Kosm
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>>166653141
>>166653297
This game is some of the best, if not THE best cosmic horror in the modern day. Nothing else compares to the love put into this to do its own thing while still be recognizably Lovecraftian.
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>>166653652
>tfw when you want to read lovecraft but are too much of a dumbfuck to understand the words he uses

i have no face
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Any reason to not kill Mergo before doing the dlc or will i miss something if i kill her first?
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>>166652113
>I don't have autism

He says as he posts on autisticfriendsimulator.org
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>>166651616
Augur chain backstab, Beast Roar to knock her down again then r1 spam with a fast weapon.
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So, I'm building in anticipation of using Chikage and Bowblade. Just got to Cainhurst and want to double check my shit.

18/14/9/24/15/9

Bosses beaten:
Cleric Beasialityt
Father fuck You
Vicar Doge
Blood-Starved Bestiality
Bitches of Hemwick
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I broke keeper of the old lords
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>>166654279
I can't chain backstabs because her back is almost to the wall. I can't believe the game even considers the first hit to be a backstab, because it's really into her side
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>>166654810
you're going for skl/blt instead of pure blt?
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Does pthumerian elder deal fire damage with all of his attacks? It seems like he deals fire damage
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>>166653752
You get used to the style eventually, some stories are MUCH easier to read than others. My first story was 'The Outsider' and that was a huge mistake, it's an overwrought, ornate, hyper gothic Poe pastiche, but then there's stuff like 'Pickman's Model', by all accounts a very modern story with very modern language, or 'From Beyond' for the mindfuck descriptions that are just great to read. Words like 'eldritch' and 'cyclopean' and 'demoniac' are fancy words for weird, huge and weird. After a while, coming across funky antiquated words in context, they just make sense. Except for 'noisome'. Turns out that means stinky.

I'd honestly give Pickman's Model a read, good atmosphere, cool descriptions, gives a good idea of what Lovecraft's about. It's good fun!
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>>166654847
Then knock her down with Beast Roar and r1 spam with a fast weapon. If you got enough stam you can do the charge r2, follow up r2, then visceral.
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>>166651616
She only heals once or very rarely twice though, so you can beat her through patience. I usually just rush down with a high pressure weapon like the BoM or saif since she doesn't parry much (she changes into a defensive style getting distance before shooting so you can usually predict)
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>Micolash doesn't get infuriated if you fight him in Cauliflower mode because some shitty hunter has been blessed and he hasn't

Wonder how long he was praying to Kos anyway
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>>166654946
Yeah, that was the general idea. Bad idea?
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>>166655854
an untricked chikage is basically worthless. the bowblade is alright. I've heard that the build is shit unless you go 50/50
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>>166592798
r8 my first ever orphan fight bros :D


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59eto6_orphan-of-cuck_videogames

never fought him before this fight, first try, no guides or videos seen (blind playthrough!)
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>>166655606
this is what I feared. I guess I'll just have to git gud at killing her.

It's just like PVP! Except she can take 15 hits from me and I can only take 3 from her

>>166655170
She is so dodgy; she's very liable to dodge out of your attack on the very first frame she becomes vulnerable after getting up. After that it's anyone's game
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>>166655113
I tried reading The Thing on the Doorstep awhile ago. I have all the books on my phone, so I'll give Pickman's Model a try. Hopefully I'll really be able to get into it this time. Thanks for the advice!
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>>166655170
Also, I can't chain backstabs, like I said

she just goes flying with the followup R2 (but the followup still does like 20% more damage than the visceral w/ clawmark 3 because I'm BL98 w/ 12 SKL)
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>>166656154
Well, she also has a fairly simple AI that will never learn how to defend against cheap and obvious strategies and you can heal many times.
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>>166656414
What kind of build are you running/ why are you farming a BAH?
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Bl 103 requesting help in cursed pthumerian defilement layer 2 password will be queen
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>>166656487
she's an AI but she's a lot harder to beat at BL98 than many many players I have faced

>>166656525
25/50 STR/ARC
I want her bolt, fire and arcane radials
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>>166656624
What I did when I was farming BAHs (before I realized it's retarded), was tricked HMLS [R2], R2, Exe Gloves, [R2], R2.

It's better to farm Cold radials and elemental Triangles, IMO.
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>>166650608
Master Willem kept them as servants, and decided to send them into the Labyrinth. They both went insane. One guarded the door to the Woods (pic related), and the other, Dores, guarded the woods themselves, likely the Forbidden Grave. Dores is probably long dead, as we find his garb scattered around, but he would have made for an amazing fight/summon
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>>166656780
it's much easier than farming bosses if you have enough stamina and visceral damage to kill them before they can really defend themselves. It's pretty much a standard enemy version of the isz watchers gem lottery; you can get almost any effect on a gem + one secondary up to rating 18 from them.

Also they you don't need radial abyssals for Kos Parasite, you need Arcane ATK UP
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>>166649806
This should be easy
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>>166653775
if gehrman is under the tree you dont get the dialgoues from him and doll after killing maria and orphan, but you wont miss items or anything like that
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Anyone else noticed how Bloodborne's menu selection blood splatter sound is the same as Postal 2's?

Except Postal 2 did it ironically. Bloodborne seems to have done it to be as edgy as possible
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>>166657610
Given the Chikage, Evelyn, whole of Cainhurst, Maria fight, and liberal usage of belts on some of the garb, you choose a menu sound to call it "edgy?"
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Okay... I guess.
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i made sliders for my harry popper/tomboy girl if anyone wants them
pretty generic but i worked with the eyes/jaw a lot to make it look decent if you're having trouble with that area
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mCshvQPLMA
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>>166656126
Okay, thanks for the heads-up. Good thing I still got time to fix it.
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>>166656376
Thing on the Doorstep is okay, not one of the best stories in my opinion. Pickman's Model is a fairly well regarded story. Try some of the shorter stories first, From Beyond and The Picture in the House are some personal favourites, both quite short and top notch stories. Glad to help, anon, I always like getting people to read Lovecraft.

Pickman and Beyond I think are two stories somewhat important to the kind of stuff we see and deal with Bloodborne.
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>>166657928
Looks pretty good, nice job.
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>>166657763

Well other than whats in the game of course.

Its like From went to a mall, rounded up the fedora trenchcoat fags and put them through a focus group to come up with the best designs.
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>>166656376
>>166658037
Despite it being rather long, I got into Lovecraft thanks to The Case of Charles Dexter Ward. I read some of his other stuff before but it was the first novel of his to truly captivate me and make me appreciate the atmosphere he's building.
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>>166657845
Why is this a thing?
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>>166658276
>Its like From went to a mall, rounded up the fedora trenchcoat fags and put them through a focus group to come up with the best designs.
>what are 18th century European clothing styles

You do realize that, although somewhat stylized in some pieces, people more or less actually wore this shit back in the day, right?
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>>166658403
Charles Dexter Ward is a good goddamn book. I need to re-read it again sometime, good evil wizard stuff in there.
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>>166657845
>>166658415
i mean yeah that was cleary a glitch, but if he did the normal followup you would have still been hit, it wasn't safe to attack there yet, its just the wrong animation played. if it played the right animation you still would've died
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Damn, Mentis at night hours sure is fun.
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>>166658704
No, there is plenty time to backstep before he hits you.
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>>166658772
>Mentis
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>>166658037
Wow, I should have asked here sooner. I looked up how to start reading Lovecraft when I first tried and all I could find is people saying start with Call of Cthulhu. The only book I've ever finished is The Terrible Old man, which is pretty damn short
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>>166658963
Anon's suggestions are great but honestly Call of Cthulhu ain't bad start either.

Of his older and shorter stuff, I'm also quite fond of The Temple and Music of Erich Zann.
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>>166658937
Tell me, memster, where else you can actively play multi with random people at 98
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>>166659256
Not at "Mentis" that's for sure.
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Anybody up to give a hand with Martyr LOLgarius? Pass bbg, will be outside the boss room.
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>>166658963
I've been a fan of Lovecraft nigh on ten years now, I'm happy to answer any questions you got.

As >>166659163 said, Call of Cthulhu isn't a bad start, it really is a fantastic story, one of his best. The Temple is really cool, very different setting for him and Music of Erich Zann is one of the first times you start see the cosmic horror angle really come through in his work.

Some other good early stuff would be The Nameless City, basically one of templates for chalice dungeon spelunking in my opinion, and Dagon, the second story he wrote as an adult (the first being The Tomb), which already contains a ton of really familiar themes that cropped up again in later works. The Tomb, too, is a very important story, it's like all the themes of hereditary and deep sea horror can be traced back to those two stories. Cosmic stuff came a little later, once he started looking up at the sky instead of the bowels of the Earth.
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>>166659895
Sure famarama, lemme load up me Bloodborne, don't let Hibiki cuck me
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>>166660169
>Don't let hibiki cuck me
"Shit!"
*BANG*
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I'm still salty to this day that I accidentally beat the game and didn't go to Hemwick because I didn't know I was on the path to the endgame, neglected to find Cainhurst, daytime Yahar'gul and Upper Cathedral, and had to follow instructions for Milkweed

And that was a year ago
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>>166660428
Yeah, I'm on a second playthrough to actually do the optional shit.
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>>166660238
Cucked, aren't I?
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>>166660542
No, it was a "shit, hit the blank" moment. Now I'm imagining every ghost up here is him.
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>>166660493
It's literally because I was so fucking baked while playing I forgot to check things out I had made a mental note of

Don't do drugs
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>>166660617
kek I'm ringing at Logarius' fog now m8
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>>166660940
Ringing back
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Rate. And be honest.
I put a lot of effort into this
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>>166660940
Are you right on the fog wall? The beckoning bell wasn't working up on the ledge.
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>>166659964
I've started on Pickman's Model and I can see what you meant, its much easier to read! What would you say is the creepiest story he's written? I'm much more keen to read something if it can give me an unsettled feeling
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>>166661061
autism/10
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>>166661269
Standing just before the stairs to the fog itself. I had trouble the other day getting summoned, really hope it doesn't keep up.
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>Get a perfect bloodtinge radial on a character with none
At least I got a perfect arc gem for my efforts
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>>166661502
You using a saw spear? I've seen the same ghost a few times now.
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Why is coop so active right now shit fuck
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Could anyone help me with Orphan? After 36 tries I give up. I need assistance.
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>>166661671
Nope. If you see a guy in Decorative Hunters', Old Hunter cap and Whirligig, it's me
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>using SRRC
>makes the sound of a chalice being created
>doesn't summon me

WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING
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>>166661789
>Whirligig
Fuckin' A Bloodborne, let me play with this guy

And just because I've seen some sillier mistakes in my time, you did leave the comma off of bbg right?
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>>166661353
I'm glad you're enjoying it! One story that genuinely bothered me when I read it was The Colour out of Space. It's a very atmospheric story, a bit longer than some others but absolutely worth the read. It was one of Lovecraft's personal favourites and this is coming from a guy who was very hard on his own work. The atmosphere sort of just piles up on you over the story, all the events and descriptions, it's probably my favourite story of his because it's very overtly creepy. Most of his stories were intended to be conceptually scary, the whole human insignificance thing, which while impactful at the time of writing, doesn't hit so hard these days. Colour is one of those stories which proves just how good of a writer he really was.
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Does the Orphan always start sobbing in his cutscene? I swear to god I didn't hear it my last playthrough but I have way higher insight this time
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Are using pebbles in pvp for psychological warfare?
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>>166661724

What level are you for reference? I just cannot understand how people struggle with him so much.

This isn't even a "LEL, I BEAT HIM FIRST TRY BRO" type of post. Ludwig PUSHED MY SHIT IN, even Maria gave me some problems.

Orphan just seemed so basic and so easy to dodge and react to his attacks. I'm starting to wonder if I was overleveled both times I faced him

New Game - SL 71~
New Game+ - SL 120~

Beat him in 2 tries on my first run, 1 try on the NG+ run. Weapons used were the Maria weapon on the New Game try and Ludwigs Holy Blade on NG+.

I just don't get it. I also don't get how Laurence was hard unless you stupidly tried to fight him by locking on (don't lock on and hug his ass, his attacks are so easy to dodge and you can wreck him pretty quickly then be patient on his second form and bait his fire breathe attack).

Ludwig on the other hand is fucking hard. Fucker took me 10+ tries.
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Rom fight anyone?

Password is bbg4me
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>>166662114
Yes always
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>>166661929
I did, ringing the right bell and all. This is killing me, no idea what's going on.

You've got the right bell, too, yeah? Only because there's been times where I've stood for fifteen minutes ringing my small resonant trying to summon people.

I'm giving this one more minute then resetting my PS4, often helps.
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>>166662236
Yeah, I'm ringing the beckoning. Given that nobody checks it here, I assume level/NG cycle isn't an issue?
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>>166662226
searching
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>>166662215

Orphan is basic. The only reason people find him hard is because he's a straight up, no gimmick boss with hard hitting attacks and relentless pressure. Either you've "got gud" at dodging or you're going to get rekt by him.

Obviously you "got gud at dodging". Ludwig on the other hand has a few 'X' factors that can still make him ridiculously cheap at times.
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>>166618183
Fuck, that's not bad. Eileen needs to be older, Alfred needs to be more of an awkward fanboy type, and Doll/Maria needs to be more statuesque. But not bad.
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>>166662215
I think I'm 65ish. Using 10+ Ludwig's Holy Blade. Ludwig himself was pretty easy for me, funny enough.

I keep getting wrecked in Orphan's 2nd phase. Don't suppose you could help me out here?
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>>166662382
Level restrictions are removed with passwords, I don't think NG cycles were ever an issue. I just restarted, let's see if that fixed the problem, I was online for a good while earlier.
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>>166662471
I'm in front of the boss fog.
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>>166662637
restarting the bell
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Once i made a frc chalice can i remove it and create new ones with glyphs or do i need to keep it in the altar?
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>>166662496
>Ludwig
>Cheap

literally all of his attacks are ridiculously telegraphed
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>>166662465
only something like this
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>>166662496
>dodge to the left into his stomach
>keep doing so
>holy blade mode
>stay behind him

I've never felt like ludwig was cheap
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>>166662525

I would help but i'm not at home right now m8.

65 with a 10+ Ludwig Holy Blade should be blowing him the fuck out. He gets staggered every second hit if you two hand the weapon in the first form and in the second form just spam rolls and dodge whenever he starts chimping out.

Ludwig on the other hand eventually got easy for me but his second phase has some bullshit moves like the 3 hit close combo he does that essentially hit confirms you if you're right in front of him and kills you in one shit.
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>>166662736
Me too, few minutes already. I'm in eastern EU.
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>>166662817

>telegraphed

You're lying, most of his moves are but not all of them. The 3 swing sword combo he does when you're in front of him is not telegraphed at all and there's no way to dodge it on instinct and it can essentially one shot you if you don't manage to get behind him quick enough.

Literally all of Orphans attacks are either easy to dodge mid-combo, easy to see coming or they simply don't do much damage to begin with.

>>166662873

>stay behind him
>get hit with his 360 spin attack
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>>166663014
Western US, so we've probably got like 600 ping in our way.
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>>166663109
Maybe someone else will be more helpful. Good luck!
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>>166662837
I mean the full portrait view with the clocktower in the background. I'm sure it exists and I've seen it before, but it's not in any of the links in the OP. Google only has low res or cropped versions.
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>>166663223
Okay, thanks for trying, anon.

>Hibiiiikiiiii, time for cucking
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>>166662104
That sounds awesome. I'm gonna read that after Pickman. I originally tried reading Lovecraft because I kept hearing his work was creepy. But since I've looked up some stuff and tried out stories, I can totally see what you mean by not hitting hard.
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>>166662920
Right well. Got any more advice? "spam dodge" usually gets me killed. And should I be using the sword 2handed?
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Logarius-anon, I'm just not connecting. Really sorry about this, I have a feeling the problem is on my end, I've been having trouble with my Internet for a few days now, my provider are scam artists.
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Any luck with your bell? I'm still outside of Rom's fog wall.
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>>166663641
Oh, I've been talking with the rom anon by mistake. I'll repeat the tanks for trying, anon.
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>>166663095
>The 3 swing sword combo he does when you're in front of him is not telegraphed at all and there's no way to dodge it on instinct

Either I have amazing dodging skills or you didnt "got gud" at dodging

>stay behind him
>get hit with his 360 spin attack

Thats my strategy I use everytime, so either he hasnt used it on me or I dodge it so much that I don't notice it
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>tfw just beat ludwig

Damn, I had read people praising the fight but it was one intense fight. Got him on my second try, but I always performed better against the bosses who didn't leave me any room to think and came at me all the time.

Well, back to the chalice rom I guess. Didn't really have any problem with it last time I played but now I keep fucking up and getting stun locked by the minions.
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whats your favorite sound in bloodborne?
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>>166663556

>And should I be using the sword 2handed?

Absolutely. It completely renders his first phase obsolete because he gets staggered on practically every second hit that lands.

Try to get backstabs on him when he does his dive attack in his first form.

Basically, if you beat his first form without wasting much Blood Vials (You should if you two hand your weapon) then you can just grind out the second phase with little trouble. None of his attacks are really "one shot" material unless your vitality is waaay underleveled and his attacks are pretty easy to dodge simply through dodge spamming.

His attacks seem very forgiving in terms of damage and dodge windows.
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>>166657845
>hotdog animation cancelled on me three times when i fought him a minute ago
>didnt matter because im not a scrub
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>>166663842

>Either I have amazing dodging skills or you didnt "got gud" at dodging

That's not an argument, there's literally no way of dodging the first swing on reaction, the same simply can't be said for any of Orphans attacks.

>Thats my strategy I use everytime, so either he hasnt used it on me or I dodge it so much that I don't notice it

Good RNG on his movesets most likely.

Note, i'm not saying Ludwig is hard by any stretch of the word. He's not, he's just objectively harder than Orphan.

>charge attack can one shot you in first form
>Radius based attacks that if you're in a certain spot, you have NO WAY of dodging it when he starts it
>Second form has a 3 hit combo that is impossible to dodge on reaction and if you don't manage to get behind him you're fucked

Just the fact that he hits harder, can't be parried, can't be backstabbed already makes Ludwig the objectively more difficult boss.
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>>166663956
Gehrman's vocalizations whenever he does a combo. Should've been a feature of the Burial Blade tbqh.
>SAY HUT
>HYEEARGH
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>>166663956
kirkhammer transformation or the violin solo in laurence's theme
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Still looking for a helping hand with Legarius
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>>166664024
>then you can just grind out the second phase with little trouble

I got his 1st phase down. I pretty much never die on it, it's his 2nd phase that rustles my jimmies.

I just seem to not be able to counter, and constantly have to dodge until I eventually mess up and die.
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>>166663095
>The 3 swing sword combo he does when you're in front of him is not telegraphed at all and there's no way to dodge it on instinct
Luci put your trip on.
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>>166664342
Password ?
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>>166664350
forgot the name of the meme but has anyone got any more of those images?
i need them because eyes and insight
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>>166664443
bbg

(I should really say that up front)
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>>166664534
Where at lantern or fog
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>>166663542
He does have some genuinely creepy stuff, Colour is consistently creepy but other stories often have just moments or sections of genuine horror apart from the conceptual horror. From Beyond, Nyarlathotep, Picture in the House, Music of Erich Zann, The Thing in the Moonlight and The Curse of Yig are all fairly short stories with some great creepiness to them. Thing in the Moonlight and From Beyond are only 2 and 5 pages long, respectively, if I remember right.
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>>166664579
top, roof before the fog
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Anyone for Rom? Still ringing at boss fog, password is bbg4me.
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>>166664513
Spurdo?
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>>166664350

Hmm, well what attack in particular is giving you problems?

His second phase is pretty simple and similar to the first, Just stick to him, get his dodge timings down (they're probably easier than the first stage because most of his basic swings usually miss you anyway due to how wild they are) and just make sure you don't get greedy with your punishers.

You might have to tank a lighting attack or that projectile now and again but outside of that, you should be fine. Don't give up and ruin a challenging boss with a summon.

Once you beat Orphan of Kos there won't be anyone left to give you any more problems m8
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>>166661452
rude
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>>166664640
Dat one-shot, tho.

Mind if I just hide in the back?
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>>166664832
That's fine
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>>166664734
yeah
i need more bloodborne ones
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>>166664139
>That's not an argument, there's literally no way of dodging the first swing on reaction, the same simply can't be said for any of Orphans attacks.

So you saying its impossible to dodge because you can't IS an argument, but me saying it is possible because I can ISN'T an argument?

>Note, i'm not saying Ludwig is hard by any stretch of the word. He's not, he's just objectively harder than Orphan.

All I'm trying to tell you is theres not really a way to figure out whos objectively harder. difficulty changes from person to person. I find Orphan harder than Ludwig. you find Ludwig harder than Orphan. Neither of us is right its, subjective
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>>166664761

Mainly his charging attack, I rarely manage to avoid it. Also his "jump and smash" attack.

Grenade attacks are 50/50 but I usually don't get hit much.

Also can you parry any of his 2nd phase attacks anyway?
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>>166664952

>So you saying its impossible to dodge because you can't IS an argument,

Get me visual evidence of somebody dodging it on reaction, then you have an argument.

And even if you manage that, none of Orphans moves come close to that one.

>All I'm trying to tell you is theres not really a way to figure out whos objectively harder.

There is

Orphan = Can Parry him and back stab him
Ludwig = Can only riposte him on his second form

Ludwig is objectively more difficult.
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Holy shit, man, that was amazing to watch.
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>>166664729
chalice of byrgen? I've been outside byrgenwerth for a while
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>>166664627
Hopefully once I start reading more I'll be able to enjoy these moments. Can it even be called a book at that point if its 2 pages long? lol
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>>166664905
Don't have any more bloodborne spurdos.

Except this one.
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>>166665001

>Mainly his charging attack

What one is that again? The lightning one?

His Jump and Smash one is pretty easy to dodge, just spam roll once you sense he's going to land and you should be ok.

>Also can you parry any of his 2nd phase attacks anyway?

Don't think so, I didn't anyway
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>>166665137
I'm just in the base game, right in front of Rom's gate
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>>166665128
You're welcome hunter :)
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>>166665203
>What one is that again? The lightning one?

He screeches and charges across like half the battlefield at sanic speed.
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>>166665214
I dunno what's up then, my internet might just be screwed
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>>166665285

Can't recall it, must have not gave me much trouble.

Worst case scenario, watch a youtube video, they tell you how to deal with most of his attacks.
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anyone been cucked by hibiki so far today?
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>>166665214
Imma try to help
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>>166665089
>Get me visual evidence of somebody dodging it on reaction, then you have an argument.
>And even if you manage that, none of Orphans moves come close to that one.

Based off what you just said its fairly obvious I'd just be wasting my time. You won't be convinced of anything else other then Ludwig is harder


There is

>Orphan = Can Parry him and back stab him
>Ludwig = Can only riposte him on his second form

>Ludwig is objectively more difficult.

Being able to backstab or parry isn't a proper way to gauge difficulty. And Ludwig doesn't need backstabs because he's so telegraphed, whereas Orphan is much faster
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>Trying to co-op Defiled Amy for another Nourishing gem
>Everyone keeps dying
Fuck man at this rate it'd be faster to run the chalice again
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>>166665495
Ok I'm still there.

>>166665346
No worries, thanks anyway anon.
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>>166665372
Right. Thanks for all the advice anon. I'm off to give it another go.
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>>166665503

>Being able to backstab or parry isn't a proper way to gauge difficulty

Except it is, that's two mechanical disadvantages that Orphan has relative to Ludwig. In terms of attack, pressure and overall damage, they both hit relatively hard and are both relatively easy.

With Ludwig you also have the added factor of the camera considering him being a large enemy. Ludwig simply has less mechanical leeway in regards to fighting him. No parrying, no back stabbing, just outright "gitting gud".

>And Ludwig doesn't need backstabs because he's so telegraphed

No more telegraphed than Orphan.
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>>166665616

Good luck m8.
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>>166664350
Chase him all the time and try to combo your way behind his back. Stay in place when he jumps and you lose aim or sprint in opposite direction. Stay mobile and stick to him trying to circle and jabbing him all the time I'm, terrible hunter but I wrecked him today after 3 beers
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Thanks for that slay!
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>>166666193
Np
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>>166662767
You can remove it. The only requirement to accessing other glyphs is that you've made an FRC at least once, and that you have the necessary root chalice in your inventory.
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>>166665378
Nah he's washing between his folds today
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>>166665142
Short stories would be the term, stuff like Charles Dexter Ward and At the Mountains of Madness, or when you're ready, The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath, would be novellas or straight up novels. There's no real set length, but if it's like 2 pages long, it's a short story. If it's over 100, I'd say novella to novel.

Check out some of those stories I listed, I think you'll like them, and you'll start to see some of the stuff that inspired Bloodborne, the hidden horrors in everyday life, unnatural spaces, creepy backwoods shit, pre-human civilizations, weird monsters, that kind of stuff. In fact, you'll pretty much see a proto-brainsucker in one of them.
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>>166665153
My guy, someone made a bunch here one night
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>>166665153
>>166666595
These Bloodborne spurdos are my favourite pieces of fanart.
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>>166666748
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>>166666918
Shouldn't he be missing one leg?
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>FRC rolling fatties
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The hardest thing about Loran Darkbeast is getting the time to iframe the AoE and the frame drops.
I thought it would be harder.
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>>166665829
>Except it is, that's two mechanical disadvantages that Orphan has relative to Ludwig. In terms of attack, pressure and overall damage, they both hit relatively hard and are both relatively easy.

>With Ludwig you also have the added factor of the camera considering him being a large enemy. Ludwig simply has less mechanical leeway in regards to fighting him. No parrying, no back stabbing, just outright "gitting gud"


Except Orphan is much harder to parry than someone like Gascoigne. Many players find it hard to parry aswell. He was given that mechanic to allow you to defend again his speed, and taking advantage of it requires "gitting gud". Ludwig doesnt need backstabs or parrys because his attacks are easy to punish without them, and his camera isn't even comparable to someone like Paarl. He is very much fightable while locked on.

>No more telegraphed than Orphan.

Maybe not. But Orphans speed is something to take into consideration. You may see the attack coming, but dodging out of the way before he reaches you is another matter
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>Just when you thought theorydueling was annoying, anons start theorybossfighting
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>>166668080
>keeping the thread active with discussion about the game is annoying

You're an idiot
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>>166668080
Otherwise known as discussion?
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I'm just annoying that hosts keep summoning Queen Killer and dying to Defi Amy.

And they all have LHBs.
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>>166663956
this part of this track
https://youtu.be/NiboHWwr12M?t=2m53s
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>>166663956
The Young female Roar.
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>>166669518
Is that the one that sounds like a screeching tire?
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>>166669020
Im actually kind of proud Ive never used ludwigs holy blade. It seems to make pve easy.
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>>166666446
I see, I see. I'll definitely check them out! I'm really looking forward to seeing some of the Bloodborne esque stuff. Thank you for all the advice and recommendations! I feel much less lost lol
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>>166669020
Bonus points if the host wears either Brador's Set, the standard Hunter Attire sets A or B, or Cainhurst armor.
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One shitty boss I didn't have to fight.
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>>166669587
I dunno I just think it sounds cute. Like a little wimpy girl trying to sound tough.

>>166669591
I mean it's not even that great. Like, it has high AR, but the moveset isn't anything to write ho,me about. I actually like Kirkhammer better. But everything /bbg/ says about it is true: it only attracts the worst players for some reason.
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>>166670264
I know what you mean. Something about the charging up animation for the Roar gesture is so funny, so grandiose. And then you get that scream in a complete contrast.
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>>166669518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Ry36ELfaI
This one?
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>>166669717
Glad to help, anon, playing Bloodborne and seeing all this stuff in context, all the inspirations, is really cool.
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Can I get some help with Amy inn cursed phtumerian defilement layer 3 bl 108 trying to get to queen of yharnham
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>>166670979
Speaking of voices, has anybody uploaded the voice samples for all the options? I want to check them out without having to start up a new character
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>>166670106
I wish there was a reliable way to make this happen every time.
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>still not a single victory over Defi Amy
The worst part is that I'm BL98. I hope all these dudes have been at the low end of my matchup range.

>>166670979
lol Yeah.
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>>166671495
I literally just did that with a guy
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>>166671934
Yeah well I'm giving up. I've blown over an hour and 1-200 bullets and Vials to watch the same three people steal aggro despite doing no damage just to die for getting greedy or making Amy jump erratically

I'm just gonna run the goddamn dungeon again like I should have in the first place.
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>>166672243
set a pw and we can do it together
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Really wanting to do a Micolash cosplay but kind of put off I'll have to wait til Nightmare of Mensis to start having fun.

What would be the best way to get there without putting anything into Strength or Skill. I want this guy to be 99 ARC with base strength and skill. Going to be rolling Cruel Fate.
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>>166651773
spin 2 win
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>>166672884
What? Nah I don't need help I just wanted to get another Nourishing gem. Since my Amy dropped a radial off-shape I figured co-oping from layer 3'd be a faster way to get another than re-running the dungeon.

I was very wrong.
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>>166673337
>Since my Amy dropped a radial off-shape
Wait, what?
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>>166667792

>Except Orphan is much harder to parry than someone like Gascoigne.

But he can still be parried. He's also easy as fuck to backstab.

Those aren't arguments.

>Ludwig doesnt need backstabs or parrys because his attacks are easy to punish without them,

And so is Orphan, even moreso because Orphan gets staggered a fuck load quicker.

>. But Orphans speed is something to take into consideration

Orphans speed is why he's so easy to roll abuse. He rarely winds up or delays and attacks and you can usually get away by simply spamming roll the moment he goes to attack.
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>>166673527
I killed Defi Amy and it dropped a radial Nourishing gem, so I've been trying to co-op to get another kill for a Waning.
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>>166673747
Oh, I misread. Thought you were saying that the Radial it dropped was an off-shape.
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>>166673839
...I did.

It just occurred to me that this is Phumeru, and therefore radials are totally normal.

Well shit.
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What do I do?
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>>166674445
I uh think he's asking for help with Ebrietas?
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>>166674445
Help the guy or not.
Ajuda o menino
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I'm going full arcane build, but can't decide what weapons to check out. I've used the saw spear and cane for a while, I'm thinking of going into the Old Hunters DLC early, so I can get the Beasthunter Saif and Church Pick, both apparently work with arcane.

As for the church pick, I've heard mixed things about how arcane gems change it. Does it's hits no longer count as thrust when made arcane, just serrated and holy, or whatever? I've never really bothered looking in to how that works, since I've just liked hitting things really hard and haven't worried much about damage type.
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>>166674624
>Does it's hits no longer count as thrust when made arcane, just serrated and holy, or whatever?
Correct. Thrust and blunt are all components of physical damage, which converting to Arcane completely eliminates. You'll still benefit form the holy and serrated bonuses, however.
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>this music in Ludwig's second phase
I'm fucking cumming
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>>166649095
>you're the best
I know.
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>>166674972
>When the choir part kicks in
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>>166663956
Witches/Eye Collectors death scream. Never get enough of that. Reminds me of Old King Doran's death scream.
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>>166673642
>But he can still be parried. He's also easy as fuck to backstab.
>Those aren't arguments.

We're talking about difficulty here. it doesn't matter if "he can still be parried" the point is it's hard to do so, especially for someone who hasn't practiced him a lot. He's not easy as fuck to backstab. He's so slippery that you'll usually be attacking the air

>And so is Orphan, even moreso because Orphan gets staggered a fuck load quicker.

Ludwig has huge windows of time where he just lets you pound on him. And when you've hit him enough (which isn't many hits, especially at the start of the fight) he screams stays still, letting you punish him even more.


>Orphans speed is why he's so easy to roll abuse. He rarely winds up or delays and attacks and you can usually get away by simply spamming roll the moment he goes to attack.

"He rarely winds up or delays and attacks" is exactly the reason why he's harder than Ludwig. Ludwig winds up so much and telegraphs his attacks.
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Soooo how old do you think Eileen is? 50-60? Asking for a friend ha ha.
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>>166665953
After 11 more tries I quit. This is my first playthrough so I guess I'm okay with not killing everything.

I proceeded to finish the game. I'm surprised I was that far.
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>>166675116
just the best
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>>166676109
>166662525
60
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I always hate killing Rom because I feel like I'm missing something.

I cleared Hypogean Gaol, Paarl, rescued the nun, Arianne, the bigot, and sent the beggar to Iosefka. Helped Eileen kill Henryk. Helped what's-his-face put Analingus' insides on the outsides, only to kill himself.

That's it, right? Next stop is Coldsteel? Then at some point (post-TOR?) assisting Arienne with her late-term abortion?
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>>166677187
>Helped what's-his-face put Analingus' insides on the outsides, only to kill himself.
I don't know why I found this funny

But yeah. You can also technically do all of the Nightmare Frontier before Rom. But afterwards, Coldsteel, Yahar'gul, maybe Iosefka if you were planning to get a cord from her. Arianna doesn't give birth till Micolash is killed.
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>>166677187
Theres a photo in the imgur thing from the OP telling you everything you need to do before killing Rom

The only thing that sticks out to me though is you didnt rescue the old woman
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>>166677403
Oh, I did that. I just forgot. Also got the ribbon from that goddamned pig.

>>166677384
>Arianna doesn't give birth till Micolash is killed.
Ah, alright. Yeah NF and Loran down to layer 2 of Lower is all done.
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>>166639069

The only weapons that come close to being worthless are BoM and Saw Cleaver. Cleaver for being mostly an inferior version of the Saw Spear, but at least it's tuned Str/Skl instead of Skl/Str and is useful for that.

BoM, however, wants the same stat spread as Rakuyo and doesn't really do anything that Rakuyo can't, while Rakuyo can do plenty of things that BoM can't.
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>>166679605
>Saw Cleaver
>worthless
Whatever you say.
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>>166676178
Anon, you should have kept on trying. Orphan is a hard boss but he is beatable. This is the result of having fought him for hours until I reaches zen and finally beat him.

https://vid.me/AX7J
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>>166679605
I beat the entire game easier with the BoM than with any other weapon though. Easily destroys any hunter, is extremely safe since it's dodge/hit and run oriented and with quick recovery, great dps without committing at any time.
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>>166679605
Is this bait?
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I got 30 in str and 13 in skill right now, using ludwig's for pve stuff. should I put points into skill to get it to 25 first or keep putting them into str?
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>orphan at 43
So this is true suffering
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>>166681009
Yes, 25/25 and then 50/25 or 25/50 is best for a pure quality weapon like ludwig.
>>166679605
Rakuyo lacks the dash attack of the BoM which is the single most important move of the weapon. In fact, the saif and the burial blade are closer to the BoM than the rakuyo as replacements from a gameplay point of view.
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>>166673747
>so I've been trying to co-op to get another kill for a Waning.
you are doing this coop in Loran, right? Because in Loran, Amy drops wanings every time
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>>166681849

Rakuyo's tricked dash attack is perfectly decent and combos into R1 spam readily, giving you a better reward for hitting it.
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>Simons Bowblade untricked form isn't a two-hander

Fucking blew it. This game needed a curved greatsword and Simon canonically doesn't use firearms.
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>>166682763
>this game needs to be more like Dark Souls
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>want to get back into bloodborn
>Cab't because I think about all the bloodgem farming I did only for a power outage to erase 600+ hours of effort
This sucks. I think I'm just going to go back to DS1 because it was the only time faith was viable.
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I want to do a Kos Parasite build but what is the best way to get through the game until I can actually get the weapon? Also how early do you think Orphan of Kos is killable?
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>>166681849
why 25/50 for ludwig?
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>>166683170
Not at 43 on an arc build that's goddam certain
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>>166682763

That just breaks the game design, sorry. Every weapon has to have at least one mode where you can shoot your gun.
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>>166682507
Perfectly decent is certainly not enough for you to argue "doesn't really do anything that Rakuyo can't". By this logic all weapons have equal dash attacks since all of them have usable ones, therefore you can replace any weapon with other and be the same in this aspect.

And BoM dash attack combo into R1 spam just as well, with lower stamina cost and recovery times, and also with strong attack with better crowd control and backdash strong attack.

Rakuyo and BoM have different play styles, Rakuyo focus on comboing and BoM focus on hit and run. Rakuyo can hit and run and the BoM can combo, but their moveset isn't as good as the other for that.
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>>166683170
You can kill him as soon as you get to the DLC.
The question is, are you good enough?
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>>166683171
Why not, same scaling for both. Unless you'll grind some heavy abyssal gems for the optimal setup, but you may also like skill weapons to complement it.
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>>166683654
No I'm not good enough that's why I asked how early a scrub like me can do it
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>>166683813
You can do at practically any level if you're willing to summon. But solo, I'd say BL50 is manageable.
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>>166679605
>saw cleaver is worthless
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>>166682763
This game needed a curved greatsword
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>>166683807
oh yeah it goes to B at +7
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>>166684251
>The only weapons that come close to being worthless
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>>166683139
Get /bbg/ to co-op through the game and story chalices
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>>166684781
>saw cleaver is close to worthless
I killed Orphan and Ludwig in three tries on my first run with a quality build and cleaver. It's anything but "close to worthless".
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>>166684689
At +10 LHB has 0.8 scaling in both skill and strength. You'll have the same base AR with 50/25 or 25/50.
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>>166683524
[Muffled Hmphing rapidly getting closer]
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>>166685106
Maybe when i get ps+ back.
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>>166685151

You'd be doing just as well with a Saw Spear.
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>>166685464
Actually, I also used it to kill defiled Amygdala in less than ten tries because the tricked r1 is perfect for hitting it's head. Spear and cleaver are basically the same weapon, and neither of them come even close to being close to being close to being worthless.
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>>166685660
>come even close to being close to being close to being worthless.

I hope typing this out made you finally realize how dumb your greentext post was.
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>>166681709
My broccoli twink is the one character I can never delete
It's like all those NES games I beat as a kid, I don't think I can actually do it again
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>>166675973

>We're talking about difficulty here

And difficulty as you yourself said is subjective. The fact is that Orphan has two mechanics that severely hamper the difficulty of his fight, two mechanics that Ludwig does not share.

Speed, damage, aggression are two traits shared by both Ludwig and Orphan. Both guys can be staggered but only one can get backstabbed and parried, Orphan

>. He's not easy as fuck to backstab

That's just a lie, you get two huge opportunities. One when he drops the "bombs" at his feet and exposes his back for ages and the other time where he does the huge drop attack and also leaves his back exposed for ages.

>Ludwig has huge windows of time where he just lets you pound on him

You're lying.

> And when you've hit him enough (which isn't many hits, especially at the start of the fight) he screams stays still

Are you talking about when you stagger him? Happens to Orphan as well and even moreso than it does to Ludwig

>"He rarely winds up or delays and attacks" is exactly the reason why he's harder than Ludwig.

Lmfao

>Having to deliberate and dodge at a specific time due to the opponents deliberately delayed attacks designed to trick out dodge spamming

vs

>Spamming dodge the moment you see your opponent flinch

The fact that the minute you see Orphan move to attack you can instantly dodge and almost be guaranteed to be successful in evading his attack 99% of the time means that Orphan is a lot easier to beat when it comes to dodging.

Ludwig has one attack that is instantaneous, the lunging headbutt attack that goes on for ages, if he catches you with that it's game over. He also has swipes that are deliberately delayed to catch you at the end of your rolling frames so he can damage you and also, kills you.

Orphan has none of these change ups, he's just the same shit. Spaz out attacks that are easily evading by mashing the dodge button.
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>>166685876
I hope one day you finally realize you're living in a fantasy world if you think saw cleaver is close to worthless.
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>>166685398
I tried starting up again can i do 70 arc with a threaded cane?
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>>166685319
I am so confused right now. He seemed to just disappear completely after facing him the first time. I might have to remake the chalice dungeon just to see if he appears there again.
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>>166686245
This your first time?
Roaming bosses do not respawn once killed.
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reminder that if you do arc you either go 50 or 99
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>>166686245
that picture ooks like something that would be used as the clickbait thumbnail for a youtube vid
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Are the best physical gems in the main game the ones that drop from the winter lanterns near orphan?

Also what are the best gems for the pizza cutter and kirk, 1 heavy abyssal and 2 27.2 physical?
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>>166686560
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/best-blood-gems-setups.html
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>>166686560
Yes and yes. You could also put Blunt gems on the Kirk for tricked mode if you don't care about the little sword.
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>>166666595
>>166666748
>>166666918
>>166665153
<3 I love you guys! I'm glad you liked my fanart! I've got some time, make a request and I'll make you a Spurdo!
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>>166687174
Brador please, you beautiful bastard <3
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>>166687264
Would you like a particular dialog?
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>>166687345
He has so many good lines, but if I were to choose from a couple:
>Are you going to kill me?
>Nothing changes, such is the nature of man...
>Unending death awaits those who pry into the unknown...
Any of those
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>>166687174
It is time for Spurdo Doll, Spurdoll

>gud hunder ur presens sumhow soods Xo
>may u find ur werth in de wakking werld :DD
>welcum home goob hunder, wad is id u desir? :o
>r u cold?? oh good hunder! :D
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>>166592798
>want to get the wheel for my arcane run, never tried it

>feel bad about killing alfred

conflicted
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>>166688516
Just get the badge and immediately run to NG+
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>>166688516
He's going to die anyway. And the queen is immortal.
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Can I get some help at BSB? pass: bbg
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>>166688816
rolling left is effective
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>>166681709
>tfw it took me two days because I kept getting pissed at his stupid animation canceling
Never again
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>>166687473
;D
>>166688282
:D up negds
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>>166689553
fug :DDD
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>>166689553
Fucking love it, m8
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>>166686074
Pls help. Just wondering what stones I should use for it.
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>>166686074
Yeah, why wouldn't you be able to? It's the same procedure. Slot in an arc/fire/bolt gem, get the appropriate amount of cold abyssals, and you're set.
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>>166688816
Thanks Hibiki
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>>166689553
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>>166604505
K-Kat?
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Noob here, recently beat the game for the first time. Went pure str with kirkhammer. Going to start a new character to try out different weapons. What weapon is good to work towards that has fun leaping and dash attacks. By leaping I mean the forward+r2 move, and dash attack being the attack after evading. I don't know if there is a proper term for these.
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>>166690087
Person who made it, I was toying with character creation to get a Ramlethal lookalike. I failed.

Purely coincidence they both have blonde hair and reddish eyes.
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>>166689553
I unironically consider Spurdo to be the greatest invention of the Finnish people.
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>>166651560
Difficulty changes for each person, I could kill Ludwig after my 5th try but I spent over 30 tries when I was killing orphan my first time.
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>>166690210
Leaping attack are more or less the same for every weapon, but maybe it's because I don't use them much. Maybe the beast claw for the special leap attack? Or blade of mercy for it's very quick and high damaging dash attack.
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new thread fucking where
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>>166690971
Now, comrade

NEW THREAD

>>166691505
>>166691505
>>166691505
>>166691505
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>>166691931
God bless you anon
It's perfect
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FUCKING TONITRUS ALWAYS STARTS TO FUCKING BREAK AT THE WORST FUCKING TIMES
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