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>But it was too long a wait to bear:
>>166544227

>Ringed City DLC stuff
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igomOLwqsV0
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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Is there really no way to skip the fucking horde fight before burnt iron king?

Who thought this was a good idea? It's fucking awful, I can't get a hit in without trading.
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DARK SOLES
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PLEASE
HELP ME
EEEEEUUUUURRRRGGGGGHHHHHH
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>>166579578
worse than nier's first boss fight music desu
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Reposting from last thread

Hello, /dsg/. NMS here.

After heavy debate I have finally settled on an order for my "special list" that I have been working on recently.

From best to worst: PCFCBFs

>Ciaran
>Unx
>Smug Loli
>Honora
>Big Guy
>Lutgardis
>B-S-C-B
>Mikoto
>Little Schierke
>Lucio the Wolf
>Not Ornstein
>Alex
>Reckless Pete
>Paladin Alys
>HERETIC KNIGHT
>Nana

Of course this is only preliminary, once I get more names down a proper evaluation can begin. See you soon! (I will also be working on the next edition of the weapon chart.)
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I think the worst part of the NK is the camera on the first phase, and the lingering hitbox on the second hit after the dash. Other than that it's not a hard fight.

Kind of shit that the hardest part about the "hardest" boss fight is a tech issue.
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>>166579748
Member the munki fcs?
Only Das2 Vanilla kids will member this.
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>>166579467
I wish Alsanna actually had a bust like that. She was a nasty skinny little thing.
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>>166579748
why am i not on the list
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>>166579540
How have you gotten this far into the game without learning how to attack enemies during their recovery windows?
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>>166579748

>JoJo falseflag shitposting again
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>>166579397
Witch alone gave a birth to every demon in the world. Gwyn children couldn't be even compared to the someone who had real lord soul
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>>166579971
>NMS getting so BTFO in Discord he has to shitpost in the thread
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>>166579578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5z2-hpZB1w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qutYD5UMhTY

https://youtu.be/GEZoL9MhVIs?t=1m13s
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>>166579890
That's the good and bad thing about fanart. Everyone will always draw waifus with larger racks than they have in-game. And in the case of characters that already have huge tits, they'll make them absurdly huge.
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Is there a way to play DeS on PS4 that doesn't include making a JP PSN account? That was the method I saw a while ago but surely there must be a better way by now?
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>>166578404
>>166578974

Nito, The Witch of Izalith, The Furtive Pygmy, and Gwyn were considered gods due to the lord/dark souls they pulled from the first flame. Gwyn had the most powerful soul though so he was sort of the Zeus of the Dark Souls world. Technically the everlasting dragons were the true gods until the first flame happened which made the dragons mortal.

Then it gets murky after that, Gwyn's children are also considered gods, as well as the former residents of Anor-Londo. I'm guessing Flann, Velka, Lloyd and your more obscure gods come from there. Then you have beings like Seath and the Four Kings, who are kind of like demi-gods since Gwyn shared his soul with everyone like it was free pizza.
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>>166580216

Well, most fanart tends to exaggerate features like that.
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What rings would you guys recommend? I can't decide between FAP, Chloranthy, or Life Ring.

Also, anyways to improve this build? Not sure of black fire orb or if I should drop an ATT slot and put it into VIG.
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>>166580112
>You deserve a handsome reward, only I have none Hahahaha
I fucking love Biorr
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Why is it so hard for me to execute kick attack? Am I just that bad? I couldn't even parry to save my own life.
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>>166580445
Reversal ring
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>>166580606

Yes, it's because you're bad at it. Just practice.
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>>166580445
If you have a slot you left might as well use the swamp ring for some added damage for your pyromancies.
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>>166579965
There is no recovery window because you don't have time to swing a slower weapon before one or three buttbuddies also shove their axes up your supple anus
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>>166580445
great swamp
witch's
sage ring
fap ring
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PC Fight Club starting now at High Wall. Pass dsg, place signs on the rafters near the bonfire. SL 100-120~ range expected.
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>>166580929
If all of them are ganging up on you, then just kite them around and let your Loyce Knights take care of them. Then use your 2HR2 on the ones that are distracted by your allies.

Situational awareness is a thing. So is target prioritization.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjO020rpfek

>oh no someone threw a firebomb at me
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so angels followers are humans who managed to control their humanity instead of letting it submerge them like pus of man?
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>>166581289
Yes, all 0 of my knights that remain for the 1v5 at the end

I'll let them know
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>>166579540
How can you even have problems with them
Your knights alone should rekt them before you even pick your target
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>>166581439
1 knight remains. There are 3 portals for them to sudoku into, but 4 knights.
If there's 5 burnt knights left in the end, I seriously have to question your weapon choice.
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Why is it that sometimes when my character is 70.00% equip load, he can fastroll, but other times he fat rolls?
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Best thing to come out of Ariandel. Full stop.
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>>166579985
That isn't true. Especially since Dark 3 makes a point that there is only two or three demons that old left, but they aren't the only demons.

There are younger demons even in the first game though.
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>>166581547
Depends how game decides to round up the number.
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>want the Brushwood armor for new DeS character
>it makes me look fat as fuck
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>>166581514
The knights barely every hurt them

>>166581543
No, the final knight goes away when the 3rd portal is sealed, leaving you alone
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>>166581757
>No, the final knight goes away when the 3rd portal is sealed, leaving you alone
She does not. I've had her just barely survive the Ivory King boss fight, even.
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>>166581751
I have the same problem with the exile armor in DaS3
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Don't forget to come to the FC, just in case you forgot.

>>166579964
Surely we have room for you. What is your name?
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>>166581757
If you rescue all the Loyce knights, one of them will assist you to fight Ivory King.
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https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/139259
Rate my paladin build. It's focused around health regeneration and defense. It also uses offensive miracles.
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>>166581989
>262 AR blessed mace
JUST
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>>166581878
>>166581908
I managed to get through it by just not fucking caring about getting hit and swinging until they died, it blew all my estus but the boss is a complete pushover so whatever

2nd worst gauntlet in this series, blue smelter still worse though
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>>166581902
white rabbit
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>>166581989
Hello Tomato
Build looks fine. You won't be getting much damage out of your mace, but then again being a tank isn't what you're going for, so you'll be fine I suppose. Are you going to do fashion, or is the CathKnight set a placeholder?
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>>166581989
terrible
paladins are not offensive clerics, paladins are physical warriors with minor blessings
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Greatsword wielding Cathedral knights are fucking terrifying.
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We got two people now, reminder FC at High Wall going on now.
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>>166581989
Regenerating health will never be as good as it was in DeS, give it up.
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>>166580304
see >>166580047

Also you pulled this post straight out of your ass. It isn't murky at all. demons are demons, dragons are dragons, humans are humans.

Flann ect were most likely just Anor Londo dudes like the silver knights, maybe they were even actual silver knights.
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>>166582413
thanks nms!
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>>166579748
>going full vincent
in my book that counts as a ban
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Demon Prince
Archangel Sulyvahn
Heavenly Daughter
Lloyd, the Grey Giant/Judicator of Gods
Abyssal Archdragon
Crusher and Stabber
Gael, The Primordial Human/Dark Soul
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>>166582497
About 70% of Souls lore requires you to pull it out of your ass because they're stupidly vague on what is there.
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>>166582883
It's one DLC anon, not 4.
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>>166582883
Where's Demon of Feces?
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>>166582883
>Gael, The Primordial Human/Dark Soul
no way
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>SL63
>VIT 23
>random pyromancer kills me with two fireballs

what
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>>166582205

It's not even that hard. It's your fault you made it hard on yourself.
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>>166582883
You forgot to add "Pain of Ages" as the secret final boss.

2/45
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>>166579748
>have some fun fights against nms
>he turns out to be a total degenerate
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Why do we even need to hunt lotc and not just burn firstborn soul?
His soul should be strong enough to almost reset first flame
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>>166583135
nms no
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>>166582883
>no Senh Lorna, Great Serpent of the Dark
>no Hollow Queen Elandrie
>no Pain of Ages
0/10
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Are there poise values for WAs somewhere?
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>>166583649
Why does he look so much like the red-hooded saw hollows from Undead Settlement?
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>>166583702
>Aldritch ate literal Gods to the point of consuming their powers and becoming a huge sludge monster
>people picked him up and chucked him into the First Flame
>even then that wasn't enough
What makes you think anything else would be different?
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>>166583135
it's only a matter of time until another one goes full autism and we'll have shitposting for 2 weeks
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>>166583914

The poise calculator google doc shows you the poise you need to get through most things, for most WAs any small weapon you can poise through easily.
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>>166583984
>>166583135
>>166583795
>>166582797
>>166579748
can we seriously fucking get rid of PCucks already?
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>>166583984

>it's only a matter of time until another one goes full autism and we'll have shitposting for 2 weeks

>he wasn't here for the epitome of JoJoposting
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>>166583984
>NMS is pro PCFCBF
>Vincent was anti PCFCBF
I seriously hope this doesn't go the way I think it is
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>>166583976
I think he started eating gods after they shoved him into the Flame, the opening cinematic clearly calls him "Saint of the Deep" and we can find his coffin in the Cathedral.
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>>166584187
will NMS make dsg pcfcbf-friendly again
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>>166583702
while not acting like a mindless hollow he still looks like hollow
he probably lost a good chunk of his power over time
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>>166583976
>>166584213

What other gods did he eat other than Gwyndolin? Does it say anything anywhere about other gods?
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>It's another "MC touches random shit and ends up in trouble" episode

You'd think he had learned something by now
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>>166584275
What are pcfcbf? Sounds very gay
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>>166584491
personal computer fight club best friend
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Got a good amount of people now so one last reminder, PC FC going on at High Wall, signs on the rafters, pass dsg.
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>>166584401
Play the Soulsborne anthology and take a shot every time a cutscene starts with the MC slowly inching towards something

Two shots if their arm is branching out towards it

Another shot if something bad happens, although not necessarily from them touching something

Finish your drink if them reaching out with their hand causes a bunch of shit to happen
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>tfw no pcfcgf
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>>166584213
I'm sure when you burn into the flame means stop existing in a physical way.
As is tradition, all the clerics are super shady people with moral ambiguities. He found the deep, a corruption of the abyss and saw something that made him crave for power, not like the darkwraiths that feed on the humanity of other humans, but to literally eat humans, when this wasn't enough he ate Gwyndolin and was fed to the flame.
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For all my soulsfriends in this thread...
I have proof that the pain and suffering is not eternal
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>>166584491
it's circlejerking over fight club members

steam chat shit devolved further

lonely autistic gay eternal virgins stuttering and e-fellating each other
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>>166584213
This is litearlly mentioned in the game.
>Aldrich became a lord by devouring men, but was disillusioned with his throne, and so took to devouring gods instead.
Only after he became a Lord of Cinder he started eating gods.
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>>166584747
>yhorm shitter only doing it for the achievement

I'm glad you suffered
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>>166584747
I hope you're Kaname/Gwyndolin Anon from last thread who finally got his DMB.
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>>166584747
You lucky sack of shit fuck you
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>>166584725
>I'm sure when you burn into the flame means stop existing in a physical way
ludleth survived the fire linking
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>>166584275
Hard to say. After Vincent's shitposting terror ended everyone still told PCFCBF memes to fuck off, plenty of people agreed with him

It just means we have to wait and see how many pro BF posters are still here
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>>166584123
>PCucks
how about we get rid of consolebabbys
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Abyss Watchers went hollow and Followers weren't nearby to stop the endless cycle of respawning and killing each other in desperate attempt to destroy the Watchers who went mad.
Aldritch just was annoyed with you interrupting his sex games with Gwyndolin.
Same with homoprinces engaged in tender incest.
But why the fuck Yhorm attacks us?
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>Before Lorian embraced his brother's curse, he was a knight who single handedly slayed the demon prince, but the victory eternally scorched his sword with flame.

This is going to be some Artorias bullshit again where you end up doing the real job
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>>166583976
Most of the 'literal gods' he ate were essentially just humans and it implies they thought they were just humans. And he didn't eat Gwyndolin until after he burned.
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>>166583976
>When Aldrich ruminated on the fading of the fire, it inspired visions of a coming age of the deep sea.
>He knew the path would be arduous, but he had no fear. He would devour the gods himself.
Can't find another one from the phone, but he obviously decided to eat gods after linking fire once
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>>166584831
>yhorm shitter
is this some meta that i am not aware of?
I am just using it because i like it?
I see this thread didn't change a bit since i left after i finished AoA
>>166584861
no idea who that is, nope
>>166584874
>lucky
yeah i spent several hours doing it
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>>166585183
>>166584795
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>>166585201
Yhorm's isn't meta unless you're offhanding it with a main fast weapon, but even that is pretty rare outside of asian players.
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>>166584747
I just left my game running for 2 nights and had enough ears
Shame doesn't work with watchers
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>>166585004
Demon king is just low ranking firesage from das
Demon prince should be just a mob
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>>166584876
Well Ludleth it's weird and suspicious and it's half burned.
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OK

New rewards for Covenants. Gestures as rewards for higher ranks.
Each gained at 100 items.
Sunbros get Warcry.
Darkmoon Blades get No Way!
Moundmakers get Shrug
Fingers get Well, What is it?

You also get the super glowy aura at 200
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>>166585201
>only several hours
I am getting nothing!
Nothing!
I have 2 concords after five fucking days
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>>166579467
>Make 27 STR 60 FAI character
>DMB Mace user, goes great
>Realize I have good AR on the Earth Seeker, and I could maybe use it
>Realize I have only 30 END and with my low VIT equipping it is a pain.

Damn Anons. Probably isn't even worth it, but I kind of wanted to give that weapon a try since no one uses it.
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>>166585394
>I just left my game running for 2 nights and had enough ears
>Shame doesn't work with watchers
is there some bot for auto-farming those?
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>>166584861
I am Kaname/Gwyndolin anon, still no dmb
Very sad
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>>166584747
>tfw you got dmb on 2 characters
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>>166585607
well use the coins/symbol of avarice/offhand rapier thing etc.
It's mind numbing but i did it, so you can too as well.
During those hours i got like 3 summons for double ears too so it helped
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>>166585767
What do you think I've been doing for the past five days?
Avarice, gold serpent, fucking coins and stupid fucking crystal rapier.
I want whoever coded darkmoon and dentinal queues as stacks to die so fucking painfully you have no idea.
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>>166584401
>>166584617

at least a quarter of all the problems the protagonist gets themselves into throughout the Soulsborne games could have been prevented if they had just resisted the urge to touch or put their face near some suspicious looking object or person.
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>>166584762
How homosexual,as long as they are having fun, good for them

What is the ideal spear in the game for a faith build? I thought about using the dragonslayer spear/ sword spear or the Lothric knight Spear for maximum fashion

But maybe the new banner spear in the dlc will be for faith character I hope
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>>166585535
>Demon king is just low ranking firesage from das
Firesage completely shits the bed compared to what demon king can do.
Bat demon uses a much more advanced versions of chaos bed vestiges and floating chaos which certainly begs the question about his connection to the demon king.
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I win pvp matches with throwing knives only
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>>166585638
You get summoned for the gank squads and host sometimes can kill phantoms himself
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Did Lorian kill all those demons in the ODK's arena then gouge out the ODK's eye with his sword, and that's why his sword is on fire?
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>>166586003

Dragonslayer Spear and Swordspear are shit for Faith since you can't buff them and their actual Faith scaling+damage is garbage. Buffed/infused LKLS would be the way to go.
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Is there a FC going on?
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>>166585004
artorias never returned from oolacile, lorian did and he had a proof of his victory
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>>166584747
Did you farm or were you actually summoned. Tips pls. I only need 20 more on two characters.
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>>166586138

Yes, at High Wall. Pass dsg. Lots of signs right now so if you aren't getting summoned post your name in the thread.
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>>166586116
Lothric spear it is then.
Also what is the best greatshield in the game? I never used them in dark souls 3
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>>166585004
They make it sound like having an eternally flaming sword is a bad thing.
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>>166586003
Saints bident. Reaches damage slightly above most raw spears alone and scales entirely from faith. Low requirements, buffable make it a great choice. I was doing pretty good with it even at +6 in the arena.
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>>166586304

Havel's or Moaning if you have the strength, otherwise Twin Dragon Shield is decent. Black Knight or Lothric Knight Shield might be more practical however
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>>166586210
farmed, summoned a handful of times only
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Hello /dsg/
Do you mind telling me why you think Dark Souls is superior to Bloodborne?
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>Leonhard is royalty
>Uses a moonlight weapon, one of two in the entire game and you bet your tits you know what the other one is
>Sits next to the only royalty bloodline throne in Firelink


Leonhard is literally Ocelotte.
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>>166586304
Artorias +4 is good.
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>>166586418
>Havel
>Moaning

lewd.
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>>166579540
>playing dark souls 2
You brought this upon yourself.
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>>166586518
Why are you trying to start shit?
Stop trying to start shit.
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>>166586518
I don't.
I like both.
You shitstarter.
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>>166579540

Aslong as you have freed all the loyce knights its a cakewalk in short GITU GUDU
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>>166586518
go away faggot
flamewars are bannable offence on 4chan
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>>166581286
>tfw SL 140-150ish
F u c c.
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>>166586514
What was your item discovery and how long did it take?
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>>166579467
Why ghosts gotta be this way

it's just a game

Is there any reason to linger in New Londo other than 4kings?
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>>166586747

I don't really mind so long as you aren't being a shitter desu, I would appreciate putting your extra points in something you're not using like Luck though to even the field.
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>>166586518
Dark Souls doesn't cost £300.
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>>166584123
How about we get rid of the word "cuck" so dumbasses like you can stop using it?
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>>166586518
I've never played bloodborne. But I'll tell you one thing: silky smooth 30 fps.
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>>166586585
>>166586645

Not trying to start shit, but if I were to say "Bloodborne is better than DaS" people would throw shit at me instead.

IMO Bloodborne is better because it has a faster paced combat and more interesting story. Also, I didn't see a single cheater in BB.
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>>166586953
It can reach 60, apparently.
>>166586984
Story was disappointingly Lovecraftian. The dream thing was GOAT though.
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>Cathedral UGS
>The best looking UGS in the series
>Also the shittiest

Go fuck yourself hackazaki
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New and improved lkgs setup
r8
>tfw no summons
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>>166587102

That's more of a opinion though
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>>166587109
Greatsword is worse.
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>>166587102
>reach 60
No it can't. It can't even hold 30 at times and forces 24 fps when it can't sustain 30.
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>>166587227
Wow gee wouldn't it fuck everything up if it turned out literally all of this was more of an opinion?
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>>166586984
I like Bloodborne, I have a blood fetish, I enjoy fast paced combat, and Lovecraftian fiction strikes a chord with me.
But I also like Dark Souls, it's got a dark setting, combat is interesting, more build options, I can cosplay Gwyndolin.
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>>166587227
Its not more of an opinion it is an opinion.

The correct one.
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>>166586839
I put most of it into Vitality and Vigor due to me not putting a lot into those.
And I'm guessing using Dragonslayer Spear counts as being a shitter, huh.
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>>166587452

That's fine, and Dragonslayer Spear is ok, I don't have a dumb 'ban list' so long as you aren't wasting an invader slot or interrupting fights.
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>>166586785
i don't remember anon, that was some time ago
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>>166587109
it's like a dilemma between efficiency and style.
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>>166587168
Nice fashion faget
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>>166587243
how? the only thing it has over the greatsword is the R2 poke
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What's the difference between painted world of Ariamis and Ariandel?
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Heretic Knight I don't know why but it just will not let me summon you, keep trying if you want.
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>>166587168
Anything is better than Fallen Knight Helm
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>>166587631
that's enough
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>>166586518
I prefer dark fantasy to REEEEE Lovecraft shit. It doesn't spook me, and is generally just gross to look at.
Like that Memezaki quote about the undead dragon design.

This is also why I tend to not like the shit swamp locations.
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Is bat demon going to be similair to orphan of kos?
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>>166587667
>5-6 times
>Summoning aborted
Thanks for hosting. I guess I'll do some arena duels/invasions instead. I'm not welcomed anyway. ;_;
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>>166586518
I think they're both great but for different reasons. Bloodborne is fucking amazing and has thick atmosphere and good bosses, but playing Bloodborne makes me miss the knightly aesthetics and the different playstyles of Dark Souls games.

That said, having played Dark Souls for a long time, I think BB's setting is also amazing and the way level design works in BB is everything I hoped DaS3 to have been.

It's not a question of which is better overall as a franchise but what theme I'm interested in at a given moment.

In conclusion they're both amazing series.
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>>166587852

Sorry about that, sometimes the game just shits itself when it comes to certain connections.
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>>166587634
ariandel found the nearly destroyed painting of ariamis and restored it
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>>166587102
>reach 60

I dont think so friendo
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>>166587320
>I have a blood fetish
Are you spanish by any chance?
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>>166586518
I don't know if it is or not but I have to eat. I'm not going to buy a console, the game, AND have to pay for online because Sony is full of jews.
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>>166587109
Also that crappy spin WA.
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>>166584327
Most of the gods he ate didn't know they were gods. Him and Sully were sending people out hunt for 'carriers' and carting them using the road of sacrifice back to Anor Londo.

You can actually play as one, its one of the two new character presets, called 'Irillythian', the other being 'Londor Shadow of Death.
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>>166587742
NO ONE likes the swamp locations, they're always a painful chore to work your way through after the first time discovering them.
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>>166588046
What exactly makes it so bad in comparison with upward slash? Is it slower or something?
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>>166587742
For me it's the other way around, I like the 'Bloodborne' they injected into Dark Souls 3 with shit like the Berserk Doggo and Vordt. Regular dark fantasy is kinda stale, I wish they did more stuff like the Gaping Dragon, Berserk Doggo and the Corvians.
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>>166588161
Thats how they are supposed to be wat r u casuls?
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>>166588161
I unironically like Blightown the first time I did it, it leave to the player a great sense of relief and accomplishement after you ring the bell and see the sunlight again.
I was bummed out after discovering Anastasia dead though
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>>166586521
>Leonhard is royalty
That's some mighty fine implying right there.
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>>166588034
No I just like blood.
I don't go out of my way to see blood or search gore in my spare time but blood splatters interest me, I like the metallic scent and I lick my wounds if I get a scratch or cut.
It's not even sexual most of the time.
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>>166586521
How, Oceiros squashed him because his juju was not good.
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>>166588473
Not that guy, but are you serious?
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>>166588161
Nothing is as bad as 5-2 in DeS. I hate that place, make blight town, the gutter and the farron keep like small annoyances.
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>>166588473
>Leonhard was born into royalty, which is believed to be the reason for his skill in both sorcery and swordsmanship.

It's the least implying thing of the whole post, retard.
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>>166588302
I dunno, silent grim shit just gets me more.
Nito waddling his fat ass over just feels more intimidating than black shit sock puppet eels and preggo barf dog.

Wolnir was pretty great, if you ignore how his fight was a complete fucking joke.
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Anybody need help with anything on PC?

I'm bored and need more souls.
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>>166588473
Check his armor set description, it literally says he was born into royalty.
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>>166588161
I liked VoD and Blighttown for the reasons >>166588346 said.
If they're done right and actually somewhat induce despair, the feeling you get from beating them is great, like edging for 8 hours and then blasting all over or not pooing for days and then taking a Adjudicator-sized dump.

Farron Keep unfortunately was just kinda boring, the entire area should've been covered in toxic,only one bonfire and they should've added more jumping ghrus.
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>>166588346
Yeah Blight Town was one of my favourite areas.

The light and dark is fucking tasteful.

Mandatory I-had-a-+3-BKH though.

Anastacia? Pleb. I killed Lautrec because I liked his armour. It's how he'd have wanted to go.
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>>166588679
>>166588698
>>166588763
Oh wow, I never actually read the set aside from the mask.

I'll just be going now.
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>>166587779
No, nothing is
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There better be tons of skeleton wheels in the next dlc.
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>>166588813
It's worth noting I didn't actually get his armour, which is also fitting.
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>>166588483
Dexter Morgan pls just fug your sister so she stops being a fucking bitch.
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>>166588707
Wolnir could be a pretty good fight, only problem is the gas cloud being avoidable while staying close to him.
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>>166588915
A bonewheel transformation would be better
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Is there any lewd fanart of the trailer angel yet? I need it for completely heterosexual reasons.
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>>166588968
I'm not Dexter I just like blood for some reason
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Is there any shorcuts in the 5-1?
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>>166589035
I've seen some at pixiv, but they're bad.
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>>166588820
>I don't read item descriptions but go on places where lore is discussed and condescendingly pretend like I do

No, don't leave, you fit right in here.
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>>166587320
That's funny. I also like bloodborne for fetish reasons, but in my case it's because I'm into cosmic mindbreak via higher intelligence, body transformation with ascendance themes, and tentacles (for unrelated reasons).

At one point I was trying to figure out why there wasn't as much Bloodborne porn as you'd think there would be, but then I realized most of it was already canon and would be redundant.
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>>166589102
There's a plank you can make into a bridge I think but mostly it's a case of fiding your own shortcuts by jumping off of stratwgic places.
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>>166589016
Any transformation would be nice. I'm still holding out hope for that pus of man transformation.

Does anyone still have that webm of the anon who found that pus-like animation from a head piece?
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>>166589324
Shit I like all those things too.
I'm just really drawn to the blood.
And I didn't wanna mention how much I like tentacles.
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Is the fight club still on?
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>>166589102
https://youtu.be/MSxO5icWpsc?t=25m46s
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>>166589573
Yes. I just got rekt.
Come on in.
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Is DeS still active? I haven't played since DkS came out and I remember finding invasions for the Old Monk took ~10 minutes each time
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>>166589573

Yes, at High Wall pass dsg. Going to close in about 10-20 minutes however. May end with an FFA.
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>upgrade LKGS to +10 on a Faith build
>infuse it to Lightning
>tumblebuff Lightning Blade or Gold Pine Resin

Has anyone ever tried this before? I'm curious as to how much lightning damage you can get out of something that would only have been possible in DaS2. I'm especially curious as to if any Vicars tried it during the redditslayer event.
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>>166589102
In reality sooner o later you got to face the giant depraved ones, they are like the biggest hurdle in the walk through, running away it's not recommendable because the club has big hit box and basically smash you.
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>>166589703
It should and would do more damage than any other variant.
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>>166589676
DeS is still decently active for NA/Asia versions, EU was always dead, you can thank Namco Bandi for that.
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>>166589573
WHERE
IS
THE
NOSE
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>>166589538
It's okay, we're all one big incestuous family here.
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>>166589826
Right here.
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>>166589703
just dart glitch lightning blade on it
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>>166589871
>Bloodborne has all my weird fetishes
Damn it
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>>166589791
Nah, just finished it, and found a blessed mace by the way
It was better to just run past second one because boss fog just behind him
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>have over 1k hours in ds1
>any attempts to make ng to ng+7 run with no caps for leveling up always end up right after ng+1 because of how boring the game is right now
>there's not even an always-working dried finger which is one of the best things about DS3's ng+ runs
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Why are invaders so terrible at SL120?
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>>166586009
Bat Demon is the Demon Prince, calling it now.
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>>166590481
Heavens, He was already dead...
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That's it for me. I'll join a FC later tonight if anyone's hosting.
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Host here, switching to a few FFAs now and then calling it for the night.
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>>166590741
Did not mean to link post.
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>>166590481
>there's not even an always-working dried finger which is one of the best things about DS3's ng+ runs
Eyes of Death are almost this, except you can't challenge bosses while they're active.

Gravelording can be fun, but you need to go into NG+ and leave some bosses alive just to make the most of it. I like to leave everything alive, then use the Master Key to unlock as many places as possible including Blighttown, New Londo, Undead Parish, and Darkroot.

I've actually gotten angry messages from people trying to get through New Londo with the extra darkwraiths. You need to be at typical host NG+ levels for that, though (SL100 about).
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>I'm actually hitting people with corona and getting kills with gnawing bleed trades
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>>166590914
Gravelording only works if you stay on one spot, and an easily seen spot so they can see and trigger your sign.
Dried finger runs in DS3 just guarantee one invader in your world at almost all times.
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>>166590995
delete this thank you
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>>166590995
memestein pls
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>>166590995
Use the dragon form jojo attack if you're so great then.
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>>166590995
Vicar's special Bloodred Moss Clump, strawberry flavor.
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>>166585740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxWNxzxkX70

Did you try this dupe, Kaname/Gwyndolin Anon? I've been told it still works. I only found about it now, it should save you some time as long as you can get a Concord Well Kept.
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>>166590995
Gnawing is way stronger than people give it credit for, probably because it used to be perfectly useless several patches ago. It even does pretty decent damage on its own with enough int/fth and sunless talisman.

Still depends on bleeding for trades, though.

>>166591173
If only they'd given it poise. I can't imagine why they wouldn't.
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40/40 str/dex on a refined longsword is ~430 AR

how is this allowed?
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>>166591347
>>166590995
I may or may not be tempted to make a bleed hexer now.
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>>166591390
it's souls damage calculation formula where the difference between 430 ar and 530 ar can mean more than 100 damage per hit which is further balanced by HA, which longswords lack outside of WA
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>>166591521
>hex
what's that?
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>>166591347
Even with poise you have no defense at all anf or it to do damage you need 60/60 so no hp either. but you know that 50 less AR nerf to CCS really made a difference. I'm glad they spent soooo much of their time fixing it.
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>>166585740
>>166591340

I should have included a picture so you see my post more easily. You get a cute Seath.
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>>166591560
Dark magic. Yeah. Yada yada "Dark souls 2 is shit." Whatever.
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>>166591521
you don't need hexer
just base stats for dorhys gnawing and hollow dex build or something
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>>166591340
You can dupe any usable item with this. Soul of a great champion is great for fast leveling. Just drop down after pressing use, leave it and tumblebuff.
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>>166591390
Because DeS fags wanted quality back.

>>166591521
By which you mean you'll make a pyromancer who uses sunless talisman and the only two good dark spells, then about a week later it'll just be a normal pyromancer with an ironic name.
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>>166591671
please dont hit me daddy
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>>166591570
The no defenses is pretty terrible, yes. You only need 40/40 to do 500 damage though, which is half of the average player's HP because there are still people who think 27 Vigor is enough for PvP.
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>>166591570
>60/60
Damage scaling for dark spells caps at 30/30.
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>>166591671
>spam dark orb entire game
boy hexes were surely fun
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Crystal Chime any good?
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High Wall FC is done for now, thanks to everyone for coming!
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>>166591974
thank you for hosting!
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>>166591897
That's wrong and you should feel bad for spreading misinformation. Damage scaling for dark spells caps at 45, though 40 is still an acceptable stopping point since it's also where pyromancy and dark/chaos infusion scaling caps.
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>>166591974
what was censored?
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>>166591672
I planned on making a bleed build using hollow weapons or something different from what I'm used to. But I don't want to do another Warrior but with quality since I already have at least three characters. I don't know, FROM pls give me a reason to make more casters.
>>166591768
Have you tried the other dark spells or are they simply not worth it?
>>166591914
It would be fun if all the other spells weren't nerfed to death or outright suck.
>make a STR hex build focusing on debuffs
>Whispers suck and the others need too much investment
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>>166591556
It would be if you weren't always up against 3 shitters all with straight swords.
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>>166592042
Looks like Hothead
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>>166591521
>Hexer
Nah dude just a regular faith build with rose
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>>166592123
>ead is censored
what were the japs thinking?
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>>166591972
its the best in the game if you're at 60/60.
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>>166592217
eat a dick
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>>166592217
eat a dick anon!!!!!!
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>>166592042

head
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>>166591972
For a int/fth hybrid, it's the best pure sorcery or miracle spell tool you have. Its scaling stops cold at 45/45 though, and the weapon art is perfectly useless for casting either spell type.

>>166592063
>Have you tried the other dark spells or are they simply not worth it?
Simply not worth it. Affinity flies too straight to pressure anyone, Great Deep Soul is okay but there are better options, Dark Edge has weird timing and hitbox that makes it almost impossible to trap people, Dead Again is literally unusable in PvP, and the others are either non-scaling buffs, pure Faith scaling (Dark Blade buff), or else are pyromancies and thus only nominally hexes.
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>>166591972
It's niche weapon with okay damage on sorceries and able to cast miracles. Lightning miracles without prayer sucks through so you're going to end up using crystal chime on your pyro if you want sorceries.
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So has the dlc for ds3 ever gone on sale? Will it go on sale after this last bit is released?

I didn't want to pay the full 30 bucks for an unknown amount of content, and if the second is as big as the first, I think I made the right call.
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I'm fighting Seath now, and I realized I wanted to do a NG+ Human for pvp. Question is what are some good and fun builds for that? I'm currently using a +15 Claymore and a +9 Grass Crest.
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>>166592217
https://github.com/omgftw/DarkSouls3CensorCheck/blob/master/censorlist.js
nvm this is a gold mine
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Someone else hosting another FC now, signs at Demon Bridge.
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>>166592026
So the catalyst spellbuff table in the op is incorrect? You get like 11 points of damage from 30/30 to 35/35. Thats roughly 1 damage per point. Where do you get your information from?
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>>166592232
Horseshit. Its scaling softcaps so hard at 45/45 that you could call it a hardcap. At those stats, you can use nearly anything else and get more damage and versatility out of them.
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>>166592063
Make an assassin with high luck and minimum int, use mangrub staff and slap the scholar ring on top of that.
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>>166592413
LISTEN TO THIS FAGGOT HE'S RIGHT
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>>166591340
I need a well kept concord first, I still don't have one even though I killed an Aldritch Faithful.
Well, I was there when he died at least.
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>>166592658
>>166592413
I'm not coming losers
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>>166592965
Well kept are for rosaria's fingers.
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>>166592965
Apparently they don't always drop from Aldrich Faithful, and I haven't seen any good theory about how they drop. I have a few, and I think I got some from regular reds, but I don't remember well.
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>>166592418
It's technically incorrect, in the sense that spellbuff is not an accurate indicator of spell damage when dealing with catalysts that have dual scaling. Dark catalysts have weird as fuck scaling multipliers that let them get way better value out of their stats for those spells. The table does, however, correctly display spell buff growth, even if that number is mostly useless in this case.

Also, even when the display is accurate, spellbuff does not equate to damage in a 1 to 1 way, and +1 spellbuff can mean 20+ extra damage. For dual scaling catalysts with hidden multipliers on dark spells, the difference between 154 and 200 spellbuff is dramatic.

I know this stuff because I'm one of the people who tested it all in the first place.
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I miss this baby. Having enough poise now makes a huge difference.

>>166592280
>Great Deep Soul is okay but there are better options
I heard a anon here say Deep Soul is better for spamming so it could be a cheap homing soul arrow. The problem is the damage difference could make or break it's viability.
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>>166592965
I could have sworn they only drop from players who have sinned.
Like they aggro'd/killed an innocent NPC and didn't get absolution.
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>>166593283
I doubt you're even breaking 35 poise with this.
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>>166592450
Oh maybe I heard wrong then.
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>>166593254
Its not only spellbuff though. It also lists gnaw's damage with the sunless talisman at different amounts of fai/int. And from 30/30 to 35/35 the damage only increases by 11 points.
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>>166593148
Shit seriously?
>>166593238
I read somewhere they were Aldritch Faithful fuck
>>166593312
Fuck
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>>166586518
I don't have to buy a third gaming system to play Dark Souls.
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>>166593283
GDS casts fast and it's a slow projectile with some homing, but the homing is so little that all the slow speed does is make it easier to dodge. You can use it as spam, but you aren't going to hit another player with it unless they're trying to fuck with you by dodging all of them and accidentally run into one. It's super useful in PvE, though.

>>166593476
Not your fault, it's not like the game tells you this stuff. Or anything, for that matter. How long did people think poise didn't work?
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>>166579467
Im finally getting around to NG+ in dark souls 3.
All I missed the first time around was sirris and sieg. Is there any missable items in NG+ I should be aware of before plowing through? Or can I simply go back towards the end of the game and collect all the new rings and shit?
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>>166593685
Focus on getting all the slabs. You can pick ng+ rings in ng++.
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>>166593583
>PS3
>PS4
>three
???
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>>166593685
kill as many npcs as you can
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>>166593685
Kill the dragon in archdragon peak, he drops a lot of upgrade materials.
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>>166593390
33 poise should be enough and I'm using stomp a lot son it resets or boost the trades when I'm taking a hit.
>>166593604
I was talking about the Deep Soul you get from Deacons. You're right though, the tracking on that thing is nonexistent since people can either roll through it or run around. Deep Soul's stamina and fp consumption is lower so it would be a good candidate for spell whiffs and then mixing it with either a nuke or a rollcatch hit like soul gs.
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>>166593583
>Playing Souls on console
For me it's
>PC
>Xbone
PS4 would be my third.
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what the fuck was from thinking with ultra balance
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>>166593521
Oh, are we talking about Gnaw specifically? First off, that's a status spell and does crap damage on impact. Second off, that isn't Dorhy's Gnawing. Thirdly, you're confusing the words "softcap" and "diminishing returns". Just because something gets less per level after a certain point doesn't mean that further investment beyond that point is worthless. The point where further investment does not give enough returns to justify the cost is the softcap, not where further returns only give reduced returns.

Shit like this is why people are running around with 27 Vigor and thinking that's enough HP for PvP, while I have nearly 2,000 HP for only 23 more levels and kill them in two hits.
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>>166591972
It's the best catalyst for non-scaling sorcery. It casts magic shield just as well as any other tool even if you don't meet the requirements, and it only weighs 0.5 instead of 2 or 3 like actual staves do. It also works for miracles like replenishment.

Being able to use sorcery while having gentle prayer active is really nice; faith players typically don't keep their spell tools out since offensive miracles aren't great (and those which are useable require poisecasting), but with the crystal chime you can just cast prayer and a bountiful light for a whopping 13 hp/s as you run around shooting magic missiles.

At 25/25 (50 total) it'll have around the effectiveness of either a 40 int or 40 faith single-stat spelltool (which is around 50 points of investment if you start off with around 10 of your unleveled stat), and at around 30/30 (60 total) it'll be on par with a 50 int or faith spelltool (which is around 60 when you take the unleveled stat into account); you're gaining the ability to cast both miracles and sorcery with roughly equal overall spellbuff per point of investment, at the cost of meeting fewer stat requirements for either one since each stat is split in half. It also can't go as far up the ladder as the court sorc staff or yorshka's chime.

It's also short compared to staves, which dampens the effectiveness of swordceries.

>>166592232
The scaling stops at 45/45, and even if you go beyond that to 60/60, yorshka's chime and court sorc staff give more spellbuff in spite of only using one stat, with the only disadvantage being that you need to switch catalysts for different spells.
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>>166594201
the trick is not attacking
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>>166594002
You barely have enough poise to take 1 hit and get staggered on second and stomp resets poisehealth to 80% so you get like 26 poise and that's just too low to trade with other ultras.
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>>166593524
Actually, nobody knows. Whatever flag causes a player to drop well kepts hasn't been found yet.
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>>166594002
>125
>44 vig
every time
every 125 build I see
every one of them always has 5 extra vig

no favor?
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>>166594338
Fuck sake From
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>>166594297
stomp resets poisehealth to 100%
poisehealth resets to 80% automatically after every attack
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>>166594297
oh another thing

you don't really need to poise through other ultras
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Have you played dark ghosts 3 today?
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>>166594801
that looks so cool
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>>166594297
Who the fuck tries to trade with other ultras? Only greathammers can do that with sane stats and armor, which is hardly relevant to a discussion about ultra greatswords.
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>>166593283
> heard a anon here say Deep Soul is better for spamming so it could be a cheap homing soul arrow.
might have been me

It's like black serpent for sorcerers, but more long range oriented. It's actually really fun if you've got a flame and crystal chime, GDS+BS+BF makes for a fairly impressive gauntlet of bullshit, especially if you slip a dart in the middle somewhere.

It picks up speed as it goes, so if you stand on the pillar and shoot it at someone who's underneath, it'll slowly fall down towards them then pick up speed as it starts moving laterally if they move out of the way. You can also sometimes cast it right ontop of people for a hit, but the elevation fucks with it and for some stupid reason your character has to stick his hand all the way up in the air to cast it.
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>>166594297
If that's the case then I'll try to switch out a armor piece but still want to keep the shiny look.
>>166594418
>no favor?
It's still a work in progress. I'm comfortable with the extra vig through.
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Hey, about to play DS2 for the first time.

STR, DEX, or MAG, and what pitfalls should I avoid?
Will be reading the pastebin after posting.
SOTFS
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>>166594801
>pause
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>>166594915
>not trading with other UGS after reaching the poise break point and never get staggered by 2hr1
>all that on SL120 build
lmao
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>>166594923
>It picks up speed as it goes, so if you stand on the pillar and shoot it at someone who's underneath, it'll slowly fall down towards them then pick up speed as it starts moving laterally if they move out of the way. You can also sometimes cast it right ontop of people for a hit, but the elevation fucks with it and for some stupid reason your character has to stick his hand all the way up in the air to cast it.
Could be something to do with how targeting works in this game like MLGS only aims downwards instead of towards lock on. Maybe delay casts could help but that's all in theory.
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>>166595006
Dex/Hex is the funnest build and lets you access the most shit the game has to offer overall.
Be sure to level ADP to about 20. It gives you more iframes.
Fatroll in DS2 is above 70% so you have a bit more leeway with your armor weight.
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>>166595006
>pursuer had a huge and varied moveset that includes jump attacks, sword beams, and pursuer spam
>which he never uses because dark souls 2 ai is rockfuck stupid and half his moveset is trapped behind his curse trigger anyways
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>>166595101
What is the poise break point against ultras? Also would wolf ring or chloranthy work better in general?
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>>166594968
Yeah, that's the problem, you either look like a walking turd that will never get staggered or a fashionable faggot that get destroyed by anything.
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>>166595101
>he uses weapons other than greathammers to trade with ultras
Enjoy your build sacrifices, fag.
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>>166595006
>STR, DEX, or MAG, and what pitfalls should I avoid?
Get at least 99 AGI or up. Everything else depends on what SM you want to stay in or whether lvling doesn't matter to you. It's the only game where going beyond sl 120 will still have activity meaning you can get away with a lot of crazy high level builds.
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>>166595006
Either quality plus at least one form of spell casting, or Hex Dex.

Level ADP, otherwise you'll severely regret it.

Ignore PVP your first time through, everybody fucks up their first character because SM.
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>>166595338
Do other builds have specific advantages?
Like how big-ass weapons in ds1 could outright flatten skeletal giants?
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>the last demon, possibly a demon prince, who actually looks like a fucking demon instead of comical fatass
>cool as fuck evolved pilgrim butterfly
>fatty knights with humanity instead of their heads
>sleeping girl with a Vagrant egg in her hands
Jesus, ringed city really has some cool concepts and designs, miles ahead of AoA.
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>>166595556
>no swords like that in dark souls 3
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>>166595418
45.8, easily obtainable with wolf +2
>>166595527
Enjoy your 40/40 quality zero variety cookie cutter build friend
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I did it lads

I beat DaS2 using nothing but a dagger

I was poking bosses for 99 damage a hit, but I pulled through
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>>166595614
Hey now, corvian knights are pretty sick.
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>>166595560
Hex is mainly recommended because most stuff in the base game has poor Dark resistance. Don't expect it to carry you through the DLC though.

You don't have to go Hexes, but it is strongly recommended to go at least some form of spell casting. Pyromancy is easy to sub-class in since it scales off of both Faith and Int (meaning that if you specialize in any casting school, odds are you'll be just as strong in Pyromancy). Miracles are shit for anything but defense early game but gets a lot better after you find a few spells. Sorceries are pretty good early-game but require the use of Ascetics to get the best stuff.
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>>166595614
>evolved pilgrim butterfly
Darklurker would like to have a word with you.

>>166595802
How many repair powders did you use?
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>>166595614
>demon is in an empty side area like the one where champion's dogass sniffer is, except with locusts there
>two main bosses then the DLC ends

in any way I put it it sounds like it's gonna be decent though
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>>166595732
Longsword?
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>>166595835
I'm not saying that AoA was bad in terms of designs. Ringed City just looks completely over the top and straight macabre sometimes.
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>>166595941
1

After that, I simply carried more +10 daggers
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>>166595802
hey gratz man, i wouldn't go through with my gimmick/themed playthroughts
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>>166595950
oh hey, it's an insider, care to share 100% confirmed content of the dlc
or you aren't an insider but a simple shitposter?
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>>166596006
>After that, I simply carried more +10 daggers
yikes
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>>166595960
There's only the longsword(short), and the shortsword(shorter)

it's also not as cool or sleek
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>>166595941
Shit from a game i consider barely a spinoff barely matters.
Design of the thing from a trailer certainly looks like an evolved butterfly.
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Have any of you guys played Lords of the Fallen? Is it worth it?
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why am i not knocking ppl out of their jump attacks all of a sudden?
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>>166596245
it's ridiculous, complete garbage that only has one nice idea - shields on your back provide damage reduction if you get hit from behind
it's short, it has shit level design, it's more floaty and slow than ds2 and it shares with it shit animations of everything
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>>166596095
Jeez anon, you don't have to be such a sperg. He's just posting conjecture from past experiences.

Bat demon doesn't look like a scaled up enemy, at least, and the flesh angel will probably be a boss, too.

>>166596235
Then why go with butterflies instead of the more obvious and DaS3-relevant angels?

Flesh butterfly has the same dress and legs as Darklurker
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Teach me about Str/Faith in Das3.
Can it not suck?
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>>166596095
no need to fanboy all over the place just because I greentexted
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>>166596319
Weapons with hyperarmor have hyperarmor on their jump attacks too.
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>>166595614
>Jesus, ringed city really has some cool concepts and designs, miles ahead of AoA.
There's always the chance that it turns out to be fucking nothing like the last time we hyped for dlc. Reason being that if it's true that they're aiming for slightly longer than AotA duration then they might be stretching it too thin and we end up having high quantity, low quality.
>>166596137
Loyce greatsword when.
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>>166596419
>Then why go with butterflies instead of the more obvious and DaS3-relevant angels?
This thing doesn't have angel feathers and its wings look closer to the wings of a butterfly.
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>>166596440
If you want to have heals/buffs and not lightning shooting out of your hands then it can work.
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>>166596440
>Teach me about Str/Faith in Das3
Your miracles always miss, unless you spend a ring slot to make them faster.

Your weapons will always miss, unless you're fighting against other ultras.

Your buffs will always give less total damage than 40/40 quality, unless you're mad enough to raise Faith to 60 and even then it's only temporary.

Two-handing your weapon means you can't block or parry, and Str weapons are heavy enough to make you question Faith investment in the first place.

Rose of Ariandel is pretty sweet, though.
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>>166596440
Sure, what weapon would you prefer? You can also use wolnirs holy sword or earthseeker. However, earthseeker might be too heavy.
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>>166596245
Only if you are bored and get it free, is 4/10
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>>166596440
it won't suck if you make miracles serve only supplemental function
so grab tears of denial and force and go into town with millwood axe
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Is Darkmoon blade a dark miracle?
as in does it scale with intelligence when cast with the Sunless talisman?
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>>166596593
>>166596746
There isn't a single decent miracle that gives something other than utility to a build?

>>166596656
Alright. How about Dex/Faith? Is it any better off?

>>166596697
I was thinking Lothric Knight GS. Though I did hear they buffed Wolnir's a while back.
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>>166596889
No
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>>166596542
Its wings look like flat flesh wedges with veins or like the four kings, whereas the pilgrim butterflies have branchy twig wings like floating tumbleweeds. And a reversed body structure that looks like a person bent over backwards with exposed ribs on the back. And they don't have legs or arms.

Literally the only thing they have in common is one has wings and the other has branches, and you'll note those aren't exactly things in common. They both float, maybe? The physiology on the butterflies is all wrong though, they look like backwards people while flesh angel looks like the darklurker with a better texture job and four kings influences. I don't see how any non-retard could look at them and say they're the same creature. Maybe insofar as they both might come from humans, but unless the butterfly suddenly decided to flip itself around, straighten all its shit out, spontaneously grow flesh and blood vessels over its everything, and completely change the shape and structure of its wings, I don't see that happening.
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>>166595802
congrats bro you have autism
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BEST RPG OF THE YEAR RIGHT HERE
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>>166596989
bravo miyazaki
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>>166596363
>>166596743
I'm feeling burnt out, so probably this game will fill the gap until dlc comes out.
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>>166597067
>w-waaah, i dont look the way i wanna :(
Stop being an autistic manchild and deal with it.
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>>166597089
Don't feel bad, even the actual Dark Blade miracle doesn't have intelligence scaling. The only dark buff in the game is pure faith scaling.
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>>166597067
Delete this right now nigger
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>>166596486
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>>166597093
better buy salt and sanctuary
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>>166597239
>waahhh someone doesn't like something in the game. bad bad bad!
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>>166595802
your parents must be so proud right now
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>>166597239
Brah, those neck seams are literally the only thing that makes this game's fashion worse than DaS2's besides the lack of slutwear.

It's a symptom of all the other things wrong with the game, they could have taken the time to polish the edges to really make it a great game, but they were lazy/stupid/both and ended up actually creating the argument that 2 was a better game.
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>>166597037
>>166597419
Oh come on, it only took 8h or so
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why does dark souls 3 seem more difficult than 2?
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>>166597259
dont worry jump attack aare very easy to punish
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>>166597480
Because you haven't played Bloodborne yet, so everything is strange and unfamiliar to you.
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>>166597354
Thanks bro, but 2d platforms aren't really my thing.
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>>166597480
because it actually has well-designed enemies and good encounter design plus less healing power
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>>166597480
it's shit
both of them
dark souls 1 is better
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fuck could someone help me with aldrich on ng+9 on the ps4

everyone i summon dont expect it to be ng+9 and they die like flies and the build i have deals almost no damage at all to aldrich at all, and i cant respec to get another one untill ng+9
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>>166597543
It is, however, the objectively better game.
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>>166597562
>less healing power

are you serious?

15 unpunishable instant-speed estus
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>>166597259
>jump attack
>unparriable with vary range but poor tracking, large stamina cost, high recovery frames and taking extra damage because instability
>a literal all-or-nothing hit
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>>166596965
The problem with miracles is that the offensive options can be OK in PvE, but completely suck dick in PvP. Hard to land, lackluster damage. The only way to do a fun paladin build is literally slapping lightning blade/dmb on everything and cast healing shit.
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>>166596965
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/139306
Here, lothric knight sword is all kinds of heavy, but you can switch up end and vit to your liking.
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>>166597480
The majority of the bosses most certainly are, but the areas are pretty tame, mostly.
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>>166597653
Cast Vow of Silence. Refresh when he reappears after teleports.

>>166597671
As opposed to 99 of four different healing items on top of 20-ish flasks, all of which stack with themselves and each other? And whose item use speed scales with adaptability?
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>>166597671
He meant the lifegems. But yeah instant hp blows when attempting to punish.
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>>166596440
It doesn't suck if you treat it as a buff build. Get 27 STR 60 faith, buff a regular Mace with LB/DMB and enjoy your ridiculous damage output. Always roll backwards or to the sides of Duel Charms, never forward. Don't be afraid to rebuff in a fight, it's actually decently fast and you can pull it off without being punished.

I have a really good win rate with this in the arena, I win almost every fight and I don't even have practice with Maces (I respecced to this build only yesterday), in fact I just finished beating a Gold ranked katana user with it. The only annoying part about this build is that people will see the damage you dish out and try to kite you around, because the Mace doesn't have a good running attack so it's pretty bad at dealing with runners.
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>>166597671
i'm serious
in ds2 you have 3 stacks of 99 lifegems which are completely unpunishable in pve on top of estus
in ds3 you only acquire 15 flasks at the very end of the game, they also heal for less than in ds2
it's hilarious how easy it is to overheal against anything in ds2 since the very beginning of a game thanks to merchant hag
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>>166597825
yes

I had more problem with healing in 2 than in 3
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fuck could someone help me with aldrich on the ps4

im on ng+9 and everyone i summon doesnt expect it to be ng+9 and they die like flies
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Is there a lighter poise set better than knight armor?
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>>166597437
>2 has worse bosses, area design, world design, atmosphere, and gameplay
>2 has good handling of neck seams.

Clearly the better game.
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>>166597565
Go back to your dead game, nostalgiafag.
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>>166597653
>>166597950
thats strange it told me i got an error after posting the first one

sorry..
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>>166597789
>divine pillars
you fucking jokester, you almost had me
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>>166597950
>>166597825
>Cast Vow of Silence. Refresh when he reappears after teleports.

Alternatively, soak him in fire.
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>>166597998
>2 has good handling of neck seams
2 was a beginning of problems with equipment leaving seams between pieces
it irritated me to no end because it went beyond neck seams
for example, there's seams between shadow top and rogue leggings which is extremely annoying to see
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>>166598097
Fuck, I don't know man. Use whatever miracles you want.
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>>166579467
Can someone post the DaS1 roll chart? I'm looking to do a legacy character through the 3 games and want it to be random.
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>>166598029
no thanks i dont like the community

liking dark souls 3 is already nostalgia by the way loser
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>>166596245
yes
no, it's shit
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>>166597981
how much poise do you want to get?
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>>166597825
yes but im sl 120 with a sorcery build with no more available respecs at rosaria so i cant use it
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>>166597825
>>166597875
Item usage and Estus use at 120 Agi was still slower than what it takes to use those same things in DaS3. In 2 you would have to put enough distance before you start using items (which at least 2 bosses would instantly punish and deal about as much damage as you would otherwise heal), whereas in 3 you can just chug in the other guy's face and get away with it unless they predict it and get some attacks in while you're chugging. Even then you're probably healing more damage than the other guy deals.
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>>166598226
Not him, but actually all the stuff from ds1 in ds3 is one of the reasons I don't like it.
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>>166597543
wait for ni-oh then, lords of the fallen is really short
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>>166598258
Acquire immolation tinder, drown deep boy in fire.

>>166598321
Which is irrelevant, since DaS3 is way the fuck faster than DaS2 ever was.
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If all of DaS2 was set up as well as FotFG and Lost Bastille the game would have been great.
Why did it shit the bed so hard after those two stages? Hell, Earthen Peak and Lethal Lava Land try to bring it back but the rest is just so bland.
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>>166598321
>Item usage and Estus use at 120 Agi was still slower than what it takes to use those same things in DaS3
yes it was, but guess what, moron, DS2 IS LIKE TWICE AS SLOW AS DS3
on top of that enemies in DS2 CAN'T PUNISH HEALING FOR SHIT because they are designed like garbage, you can simply backpedal while popping lifegems and virtually nothing in this game will be able to stop you, in ds3 there's enemies specializing in fucking your face up the moment you give them a chance like facerape goats
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>>166592217
>in a game with chosen undeads and knights
>they censor ho ead and nig
From's brilliance knows no boundries
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What're your thoughts on the Astora Greatsword? It seems pretty good, as it is light, has nice reach along with a good chasing WA. I just don't know about its damage.
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>>166598372
Is the tinder hard to get? I've actually never used it.

On another note, could you tell me some things about the tinder? What are some good strategies to use in pvp with it? Are there some cons and pros with it?
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>>166597653
>>166597950
I can try and help but I won't make any promises on how well I'll go.
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>>166598540
extremely low AR for ugs, but one of the best movesets
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Does Bleed or Poison infusions kill my Dex scaling in DS2?
looking for something to throw on my Rapier.
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>>166598540
It's my favorite weapon in the game simply because I like ultra greatswords that look like they might be realistically usable.
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>>166598540
Worse zweihander. It was only good when it had thrust damage unpariable rolling attackd, but those have been patched.
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>>166598321
to add to this, the healing power and speed of estus in 3 is aggravated by the 0 stamina 100% i-frame rolls.

Moreover, all running attacks and cant properly rollcatch which means that the guys can simply roll twice, heal then roll again without any problem. And mobs and bosses dont have any attacks specificaly meant to punish healing unlike DaS 1, 2 and Bloodborne
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>>166598703
>And mobs and bosses dont have any attacks specificaly meant to punish healing
Try to heal against soul of cinder or champion and see what happens.
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>>166598540
I like this weapon, but be carefull the WA can be easily parried.
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>>166598540
Perfect moveset for pseudo-combos, stamina usage doesn't seem as severe as something like Profaned, amazing range. Lower damage than others, but makes up for it with weight and moveset.
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>>166598772
you heal then dodge

wow such difficulty

these boss are very agressive, true, but they dont actively punish healing like artorias for example
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>>166598576
It's a halberd/glaive that is also a torch and a catalyst and has fire scaling off pure intelligence. If your sorcerer isn't using it, that's because he's dumb and likes dying to deacons or other sorcerers. Also, keep in mind that the upcoming DLC is abyss flavored, so you're really going to want fire damage.

Its cons are 18str/fth requirements, but that shouldn't be a problem if you're using MLGS or GSoJ. Its pros are practically endless, glaives are just good, the weapon art is something sorcerers can make use of for spells, and casting ability lets you switch its moveset for straight sword with Farron Flashsword. Also, it's a torch, so it'll light up dark places without taking up your shield slot.
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>>166598981
all aggressive bosses in ds3 can easily fuck your face if you heal carelessly
especially champ who always goes completely apeshit when you try to heal
healing against bosses in ds1 is much easier in retrospect, especially if you're on fast roll or DWGR like any sane person
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>>166599001
>18str/fth
18str/18dex/12fth requirements. The 12fth is the real kicker here, but you get what you pay for.
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>>166599149
>The 12fth is the real kicker here
at this point i see no reason not to make a sorcerer from a pyromancer starting class, really
sorcerer has awful high luck
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>>166599001
>>166599149

>tfw it's more stat efficient to start as pyromancer for a Tinder build instead of Sorcerer unless you're using Priestess Ring
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>>166599250
meh you can make a man grub build, but thats about it
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anyone remember when poise existed?
i remember when a baby hitting you on the nose with a napkin didn't stagger you.
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>>166599001
that sounds like a lot of fun i'll make sure to give it a try

i think i have one more available respec at rosaria - whats the best build for the tinder if my dude would be sl 120? and what spells/other items should i use with it?
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>>166599250
>>166599297
Correct, the only thing sorcerer is better for than pyromancer is man-grub staff, which is the worst staff in the game when comparing total stat investments.
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>>166598342
there are more things in ds3 that make me dislike it than ds1 stuff like weapon fun level
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>>166598206
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>>166599383
not only that but going pyro allow you to use ToD for your kamikaze mage
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>>166599362
Something like this. Keep in mind that Tinder's scaling gives 3-4 fire AR per level all the way up to 60int, so don't even think about skimping on it.
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>>166599561
Rollin'
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>>166599383
A non tinder sorcerer is usually better with the sorcerer class though.
Since mlgs and heysel are okay, making one is a nice idea too
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> thought most weapon arts were not able to be parried
> find out from experience that most of them can be parried
So which ones can't be parried?
I learn the hard way that the great corvian scythe and the straight sword weapon arts can be.
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>>166599668
>not vit for poise
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>>166599717
he's better for like 2-3 levels, irrelevant, really
my mage also doubles up as a pyromancer with a simple swap at Rosaria
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>yfw in the finale of the Ringed City DLC you finally meet Aldia again
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>>166599790
the spin to win ones

all of them
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>>166599838
>poise on a glaive
that shit got nerfed so hard it's irrelevant now
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>>166599838
Glaive poise was nerfed so hard that investing for it on top of all the other stats in use wouldn't be practical. The build already has 40vig and 20end, and it really needs the 60int for damage. What else is there to cut?
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Smelter Sif with gargoyle wings boss when?
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>>166599917
>mfw none of the characters from DaS1 or 2 are even mentioned and we get more one offs from pointless characters
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>>166599668
alright thanks dude i'll keep this in mind
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>>166599668
>FORTY FUCKING VIGOR on a mage
>only 20 endurance for a catalyst that costs huge chunks of stamina to swing
Even as a pure caster with court sorcerer staff I refuse to go below 24 end. I have no idea how you'd even compete by using a glaive that can only be swung twice.
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>>166598239
Enough to have poise when I swing a greataxe.
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>>166599717
as a mage with faith you can use tear of denial, which will do more for your survival than any amount of health

moreover, since most mage weapons requires a good amount of strength you cant skimp on that, and the 12 luck is really a bad investment
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>>166598347
This game looks good, but unfortunately it's a ps4 exclusive. I hope the developers change their mind about it.
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>when the host and his 3 phantom butt buddies are chasing you what do you do?

RUN FOREVER
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>>166600106
2 hit combo system of ds3 makes huge end investment pointless unless you're on ugs or valorheart, especially with a fairly passive playstyle that is sorcerer's
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>almost started playing DaS2
Whew that was close
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>>166597671
You can go through those pretty fast. Especially when you have low undead ash upgrades.
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Any DSG-bros need help on the first half of DS3 bossess on NG0 PC?

Give me a holler here and happy to help out in thanks to the help I got yesterday.
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Is there anyway to two-hand a weapon when making builds with mugen monkey?
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>>166600251
that's one buff motherfucking dragon
CE?
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>>166600106
The cut Att to 18. It's not like sorcerers really need more than three spells.
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>>166600251
>not being a skinny lil dragon pleb

Shame. They're adorable that way. You're just ugly now
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>>166600349
This is going to sound autistic, but I'll spare you some future embarrassment. It's /dsg/, not DSG.
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>>166600389

There's a two hand button below weapon selection.
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>>166600389
its useless since twohanding dont increase damages, at least not as much as it used to
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>>166595734
>tfw Millwood chest with Wolf+2 puts me at 44.4
Fug, gonna have wear Gundyr's. Thanks anyway
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>>166600267
>almost didn't shitpost today
Whew that was close
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>>166600389
I'm pretty sure all the games featured of mugenmonkey have a little checkmark for 2h by the weapons part of the thing
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Does the firekeeper poop?
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>>166600263
As a caster, the most important thing you can have is stamina. You could have base health and still win fights because you're playing a build that's all about staying away from people anyway, and 1500 hp won't save you if you're just blowing your stamina away after 2-3 spell casts and giving other players a free 2 hit combo. The more end you have, the more you can cast while still having stamina for a roll. The more health you have, the more you plan on getting hit which you shouldn't be doing as a caster anyway.
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>>166600151
You get hyperarmor just by using that class of weapon, but you seem to be really low on vit so you either would have to level that up or completely ignore it and maximize damage.
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>>166600394
Nah I just work out a lot.
mmaaayybbeee

>>166600452
YOU'RE A BIG UGLY
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>>166600472
It does, but you are quite correct.
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>>166600631
spamming stamina-heavy spells is the easiest way to lose a battle
use farron darts, use backwards HCSM, be passive, that's the way sorcery works best in ds3
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>Bellbonger
>20 Chunks from Bonging
>It's 12 o bong
>Some cheeky cunt invades the fucking bell
>I go fuck him up with the rapier
>He survives with like 2 HP
>He rolls away
>I know what he's doing so I rip out a bow and get a kill with the arrow

FUCK
WHY CAN'T HEALING BE LIKE THIS IN DaS3
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>>166600631
>the more you plan on getting hit
This right here is everything wrong with kids these days. It's as if you really think you can avoid all of life's problems just by not factoring them into your plans.
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>>166599917
I just want to meet my nigga Bear even if he's going to be in boss form.
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>>166600761
being passive is the optimal way to play everything in whiff punish 3
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>>166600842
>instead of going hollow, he just went senile
>no one can tell the difference anyways
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>>166600942
it's the optimal way to play in all souls games
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>>166600942
That goes for every souls game.
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>>166600510
>its useless since twohanding dont increase damages, at least not as much as it used to
I swear to fucking god you 120s have no idea how this game works. Twohanding increases strength by 1.5x, or 50%. If you twohand at 40 strength, you now have 60 strength. That's the entire reason why fromsoft made 60 strength a second softcap.

If you go 66 strength like every other retard you're obviously not going to get a huge AR boost by twohanding, because you're getting the bonus of 33 points going towards a stat that's already been pushed past both of it's softcaps and you're getting the worst diminishing returns possible.
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>>166600526
firelink helm
gundyr chest & gloves
havel pants
45.9 poise with wolf +2
looks like a molten ass but it works
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>>166601017
>>166601039
except one

but really the hypermobility of 3 brings passiveness to a whole new level
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>>166601041
Please don't lump the new scrubs in with us proper 120s. They think quality is a dark souls thing, for crying out loud.
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>>166600761
You can spam stamina-heavy spells, or you can spam stamina-efficient spells even more while still having a getaway plan with that extra stamina. One of the most fun things to do as a caster is to spam 10+ Deep Soul casts at somebody and still have over half your stamina for when they finally decide to play aggressive when they aren't blowing all of their stamina on rolling.
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>>166600251
>not killing their bosses

Pleb
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>>166601130
the only way one is an exception is because of bs games
any fucktard trying to be passive just got poisestabbed into oblivion
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>>166600452
>>166600658

AM I SKINNY ENOUGH FOR YOU NOW? STOP BEING SO FATPHOBIC IT'S NOT FAT IT'S MUSCLE WHY DOESN'T DRAGONSIS LIKE MY MUSCLES DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME I'M NOT BEAUTIFUL I JUST HAVE BIG BONES

kek forgot image

>>166601182
THAT'S NOT NICE
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>>166600631
The best sorc spells all consume nearly no stamina and you have soulmass as your free stamina management cast since whenever you get it, you can force the opponent not to attack by just turning around, enough to regen at least a few rolls.
Having no health would be just asking to be chipped to death by crossbows, other sorcerers, pyros and the like
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>>166600989
>instead of going hollow, he just went senile
>go to the deepest part below Ringed City
>Throne of Want passage
>oh shit it's another boss isn't it
>enter
>hear a voice from a distance
>"Shanalotte is dinner ready? All those ungrateful undead are making a ruckus again. Bah"
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>>166600658
>CE
Into the trash it goes
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>>166601251
GANKERS AREN'T NICE WHY SHOULD I BE NICE TO THEM
FUCK THEM AND THEIR BOSSES

You're not skinny enough
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>>166601251
Not skinny enough yet.

Eat more celery.
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>>166601250
actually i was refering to bloodborne

mainly because you had way less mobility, coulndt backstab or parry effectively and all weapons dealt a lot of damage
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>>166601271
>Having no health would be just asking to be chipped to death by crossbows
Countered by deep soul's lightning fast cast time, low recovery, low stamina cost and the awkward projectile speed and tracking which forces the enemy to focus more on the projectile flying at them than waiting for the chance to fire a long ranged crossbow shot that will actually land
>other sorcerers
also countered by deep soul
>pyros
also countered by deep soul since pyromancies cost insane stamina and are all focused on high burst damage instead of long ranged sustain damage
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>>166601420
>>166601485
Wasting away to nothing. Not even bones remain. Just toothpicks shoved beneath the skin to hold some kind of figure.
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>>166601570
but how do you counter someone who counter you with deep soul?
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>>166601512
>less
come again
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>>166601041
>not reading his full post
>getting this triggered to the point he thinks everyone is a metafag


2handing used to have a very significant modifier to your damage in the other games to the point even dex weapons with low str investment could gain a lot of damage. If you go 99 str in 3 and try out both 1h and 2h a weapon, you'll notice how reduced the difference is. 2h in 3 is nearly only a moveset choice.
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>>166601570
Deep soul doesn't counter shit, it has a mile long telegraph, doesn't prevent approaches, and only retards get hit by it.

Actually, all your posts sound like you only ever fight retards, which is fair because those are the only things sorcery wins against.
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>>166601638
NOT SKINNY ENUFF
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>>166601512
the optimal way to pvp in bb is a mix of brainless r1 mashing and brainless l2 mashing so it's not surprising
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>>166601695
>If you go 99 str in 3 and try out both 1h and 2h a weapon
If you go 99 str in any souls game, 1 handing and 2 handing gives zero difference in AR and the only damage difference is from the attack's inherent modifiers.

Good job demonstrating your mastery of game mechanics, though.
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>>166601570
You can reload after one deep soul then fire after another.
Other sorcs can dart you
Pyros have surge to the point they can just roll forward on every soul cast then surge and roll before the next one reaches them
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>>166599357
I remember poise backstabs and people not being punished enough for bad spacing and eating hits. It's a good thing the old poise doesn't exist anymore.
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>>166601673
its true, you had more recovery frame on your dodge, they covered less ground and rolls covered more ground but had lower i-frame.

moreover you couldnt stay locked and run everywhere like you can in ds3.

You had way less tracking on all your attacks, which meant that you coulnd just dodge or run around waiting to punish a whiff

Basically, you where way less mobile in Bloodborne relative to the speed of its gameplay than in DS3
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>>166601852
That's exactly what I said with
>2handing used to have a very significant modifier to your damage in the other games

The modifier of 2h movesets in 3 is awful compared to the modifier you get in the other games. It's purely a moveset choice whereas you might 2h a weapon with better moveset 1h in the others to actually get more damage even if your STR boost is minimal.
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>New charm
>Roll Charm
>All charms buffed to have a much larger lingering hitbox to roll catch
>Roll charm adds a 0.3s delay after every roll
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>>166599357
I remember when a guy hitting you with his 2handed ultragreatsword didn't stagger you.
Good times, good times.
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>>166601765
never ever pcfriendo
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>>166599561
Eh, it's worth a shot.
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>>166601652
That's when it becomes a fucking touhou game with deep souls flying around the arena and the more knowledgeable player with better cast timing wins.
aka the most hilarious and fun fights
>>166601903
Crossbow's reload speed is so slow that a caster with sage+2 can put out another 2 deep souls before you can fire another shot. Crossbow bolts also have nonexistent tracking and the only way to hit somebody beyond spear range with them is to hope they aren't strafing on either side.
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A new event to commemorate DaS3 as a final hurrah before the DLC2 hits.

Dark Souls 2 clusterfuck Bellbonger event. White phantoms, red phantoms, bellbongers all in a chaotic clusterfuck
GET CHUNKS AND GROW SWOLE
Only req is low SM bracket
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>>166601638
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxQdWubPtK8
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Embargo for DLC info from Bamco event lifts on February 8th.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Fightincowboy/status/824408095828742144?p=v
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>>166602161
I made the original post that people laughed about, and to add to this I'd say that the only true advantage of two handing in 3 is that you get more HA, but the damage boost is minimal at best
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>>166602161
He wasn't talking about the attack modifiers on two-handed moves you idiot, he was talking about how most weapons have a second softcap at 60 which lets them get more out of 40str and two-handing. Attack modifiers were never a part of the discussion, and the 60 softcap is probably why they're lower at that.
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>>166602451
>twitter fags spoiling everything
>AGAIN

fucking kill me now
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So how dumb was it of me to have never touched the DLC for Dark Souls until I decided to do a SL1 run. Fucking 2Hing Hand Axe can't stagger him out of his fucking buff.
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>>166602451
Yey, now they can spoil stuff WAY before the release!
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>>166602417
>deep souls
anon, quit fucking around. great deep soul is moderately powerful for something so fast, but normal deep soul is weak and serves only to confuse idiots who don't know how to put pressure on casters. it doesn't matter how much stamina you have when your opponent has 40end and a weapon that swings faster than any spell barring flashsword or dart.
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>tfw no boss weapons
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>>166602701
moreover, deep souls is the only spell that you can safely ignore when up close because it'll go over your head
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>>166601903
>>166602417
Forgot to add the other 2 points because I'm a fucking retard
>other sorcs can dart you
darts do 70-90 damage to a sorcerer because of his natural magic resist from INT scaling. Deep soul hits 230-250 on average because of the dark damage and the dart firing animation can get you caught by an orb easily
>Pyros have surge to the point they can just roll forward on every soul cast then surge and roll before the next one reaches them
Flashsword scares them back and soul greatsword has the same range as fire surge while also being good at catching panic rolls after a flashsword swing, which hits for 450-500 average compared to fire surge's 80-90 per tick damage.
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>>166602660
>Streamers get the DLC early so they can shill it even though anyone still playing is going to buy it regardless
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Where my CE-bros at?
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>>166602701
I'm only calling it deep soul because there's no reason to use the regular deep soul once you've gotten the direct upgrade. Of course I mean Great Deep Soul. When people say "farron dart" they don't mean the garbage non-great version that does 40 damage a dart.
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>>166602456
There's the moveset thing, I think it's the most important part. You never 2h GA since you lose the 2 hit combo and SS have awful 2h movesets.

>>166602538
No, the original post was asking how to make mugen show 2h damage. Other guy came and said 2h's damage (not AR, actual damage, the number you see when attacking) doesn't get bigger as much as it used to. Then another guy comes to talk about how he has no idea how the game works when he was right about 2h being worse in 3, never mentioned any amount of STR like having 66, 60, 40 or 27 and mugen sucks for AR calculating if you're not a metafag since they haven't fixed that dumb issue of not having lower upgraded weapons

He was talking about how the combined effects of 50% STR and attack modifiers is way worse now, yet the other guy couldn't get it wasn't about stats only
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>>166600486
>>166600548
Oh thank you.
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>>166602701
>>166602859
If somebody keeps pressuring you hard enough then you switch to flashsword/soul greatsword exclusively. Every time they start playing passive again you can go back to firing deep souls.
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>>166602982
What do you want
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>>166603226
>if somebody keeps pressuring you hard enough then you should switch to a spell that's a strictly inferior version of the weapon they're probably using on you right now

Sure thing pal, let me just rev up my spear and I'll get right back to you on that.
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>>166602982
>all these poor bastards that unironically farm concords and gems
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Can someone colour in the ones on the left side as Blue/White/Yellow Phantoms (With one person normal) and the loli on the right as a Red/Purple?
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>>166603520
When you acquire better taste in games, yes
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>>166603432
>doing dungeons for gems
>not naturally having perfect gems because you play dungeons for fun
The shit you find in dungeons, though.
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fight club boys 120 aboutish pc ds 3 eh?
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If Show Hei Hey is here, thanks for the PvP man. It's been a blast.
The chunks are gr8 too
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>>166603607
Your post is missing a few important details. Place and pass?
You are hosting and not begging, right? We already had 2 FCs today, one yesterday, one the day before, one the day before that, and one the day before that.
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Irithyll Dungeon is a damned nightmare.

Any defense from the max health lowering jailers?
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>>166603607
I'm interested
post location with pic for optimal attention grabbing
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How the fuck do you beat shields+spears in Demon's Souls?
I fought someone 3 times who was using the shield+pear and lost, and just figured they were good and moved on.
But then further into Shrine of Storms, I accidentally aggro Fucking Patches because I decided to be cheeky and push him into the pit, and he fucking destroyed me with the combo and I was only able to win by fishing backstabs. This shit is impenetrable.
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>>166603339
>a straight sword spell that can combo from a running/rolling R1 into a second R1, something that no other weapon in the game can do, while also having pure magic damage for chipping through shields and low enough stamina cost to the point where you can spam it 7 times in a row with only 25 END
>a spell that has a massive sweep, phantom range, unparriable, more damage than a single swing from an ultra weapon at 40/40, magic chip damage through shields, low stamina cost/damage dealt ratio, greataxe stagger animation and insane poise damage
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>he still has DS3 installed
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>>166579467
Can you dupefag in ds2?
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>>166602252
i have over 1k hours in bloodborne
your consolewar shitposting is irrelevant
it's impossible to deny that bb's core design is absolutely fucked for pvp, especially duel one, and that trying to seek any depth in it aside from desperate r1 mashing and parry fishing is impossible
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So how do you DS2 and DS3 players deal with the fact that there is literally no way outside of extraordinary circumstances to stop a faggot from spamming roll to keep away and chugging 10+ effectively instant heals?
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>>166604167
>DS2
I punish him during the chugg
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>>166604145
never ever
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>>166604167
>DaS2
>can't punish the slowest heal in the series
holy shit you're bad lmao
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>>166604167
i just wreck them
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>>166604167
>ds2
>having trouble with people spamming roll and healing when estus isnt instant and adp exists
try harder
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>>166604145
Yes I know that is PoKemon... Remember at the beginning of those games you had to pick between three starter PoKemon? Each one was unique and had their own strengths and weaknesses. Same thing in this game, only you will choose between three melee trick weapons and two firearms. Then upgrading that weapon far beyond its original capabilities is truly something. That weapon, sorta gets better like you. Its always by your side, and learning its use will be vital. When you fail, its not the weapons fault. Its just a tool, but a tool that is always at your side. A tool that may look like nothing, but it has the ability to slay monsters of unimaginable strength.

As you can see, I am in love. Bloodborne is my favorite game of the year as of now. It has been a while since games have been soooooo right. I may have to Review this one, but it would be quite a long time.
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>>166604167
you try to oneshot him by parryfishing like a faggot

Miyazaki vision of engaging pvp
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>>166603986
>a cheap imitation of a weapon that gets outperformed in R1 spam and trades, and its only supposed advantage is the same one all elemental weapons have
>a slow, telegraphed swing pretending to be an ultra weapon but without the hyperarmor and damage

Man, for all that Int you sure are dumb.
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>try to make a jubilant catarinian
>for some reason the only way to get rid of the yellowish splotches is to make him into a fucking red demon
For what purpose did they add the fucking splotchyshit?
For what POSSIBLE reason would they make skin work like that?

Also, why are the choices for physique 'flabby faggot' and 'malnourished grandpa'?
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>>166604167
Toss hunter charm, followed by floating chaos spam.
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>>166604250
You do realise that you make BB players look extremely bad right now?
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>>166604621
You're the one bothering to reply to shitposting in the first place
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>>166599561
rollan my fate
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>>166604620
that would work if the lloyd's talismans weren't literal useless garbage in the sequels
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>>166604621
well what can I say, you have 1k hours of playing and you are telling me that you can r1 your way out of fight, how can I answer?
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Astora gs VS. Wolf Knight gs
Go
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>>166604719
>he doesn't freeaim his projectiles
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>>166604391
What the fuck is this ?
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>>166604330
How do you get backstabs consistently? I know I have to run at their back but it always comes out as a normal r1.
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>>166604870
They're not even in the same weapon class. But I'll say Astora just because anything related to Artorias is trash.
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>>166604878
ok so you hit them with your amazing free aim skills, now it lasts what like 10 seconds? oh and they're going to spam roll away until its over lol yeah that talisman crushed it
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>>166604167
You use Roll Catching weapons (curved swords, straight swords are the main ones) or weapons that deal enough damage to outdo the chug (Onikiri and Ubadachi for example).
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>>166604926
You attack from the front.
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>>166599561
rolling as soon as i rebuy das1, because i traded it and das2 in to get das3 on launch, which turned out to be a giant piece of shit.
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>>166605078
plot twits: he has a phantom and they rotate to attack you and heal.
The only way to be sucessfull in invasion is to be able to oneshot your oppoent
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>>166605215
>trade in ds1
>get stuck playing ds3
hail velka
>>
The reason why I think DaS3 bosses are better than the ones in DaS1 is because the ones in DaS3 feel more significant and important. All the demon bosses and moonlight butterfly weren't unique beings. There were more than 1 of them. All of the bosses in DaS3 were unique and significant except ancient wyvern.
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Anybody wanna help me beat the dragonslayer armor on the ps4?
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>>166605315
nigga that shit was supposed to be demon's souls 2
how was i SUPPOSED to know from would go full retard and it was going to turn out to be hot garbage
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>>166605231
>nearly kill host
>he roll spams away
>phantoms r1 spawm
>host mashes heal
>repeat

This is why I've stopped playing Ds3
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>>166604968
>astora is lighter than wolf
>astora is an ultra gs
>weapon class means nothing
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>>166580304
>until the first flame happened which made the dragons mortal.
thats just false
the everlasting dragon is still immortal
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>>166604975
They aren't going to roll for 15 seconds, and you're being hyperbolic in a serious discussion.
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>>166605387
I got an extra set senpai
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Is it just me or are messages bugged? I'm seeing so very few messages with with high ratings. And my own messages get 0 ratings either.

I used to have some messages with 20+ ratings before, but I lost my save and now I don't seem to get any ratings.
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>>166605691
they will, moreover they can just run away and theres exactly nothing you can do about it
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>>166605471
Because they already released Demon's Souls 2 and called it Bloodborne.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuwKXE6_4d8
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I'm doing coop to take a break from duels and it really opens your eyes in terms of the skill level of the average player. I'm cooping the Gravetenders as I like the fight (gameplaywise, the presentation is pathetic), but they completely destroy every host. In the last fight, for example, I was taking care of the wolf while the BK Shield Darksword Fallen Knight cutie host dealt with the NPC and the NPC killed him, without aid from the wolf. Sometimes I don't mind the deaths, because for example the wolf loses aggro on me and hits the host or something, but other times they just try to block and R1 their way to victory and get utterly crushed, until they resummon again and again to bruteforce their way through the game. And I'm playing at SL 120 to make things worse, imagine if I were 70 or something.

Please invaders, give these a tough time...
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>>166605691
>They aren't going to roll for 15 seconds, and you're being hyperbolic
people roll and run away for 15 or more seconds all the fucking time in the sequels

they try to do it in Ds1 too but get caught and backstabbed like retards every time
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The lack of /best/ boy is disturbing.
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>>166605845
>Invade
>Ds3
y do you event want to tho?
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>>166605916
i wonder if pontiff defeated gwyndolin in battle
not like it was hard as faggot can just run away and was against a person who is both a strong sorcerer and powerful fighter, but still
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>>166605845
haha good one, but these guys travel in pack

and because of the two hit rules once you get clipped you are done
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>>166605893
>there are people who unironically praise das1's broken backstab system as anything otherr than a tragic example of unbalanced design resulting in messy, lag-dependent one note pvp
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvYApd_X3aU
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>>166606053
>*autistic screeching*
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>>166605893
If you want to be hyperbolic, their pal will always move right behind you after a BS and you'll be unable to continue a chain while they just pop one of their 198 humanities
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>>166606014
>turn around to run when you're right next to an invader
>get backstabbed for trying to run and not fighting back
>broken backstab system

Seems fine to me
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>>166606008

Gwyndobitch probably gave in at the first confrontation.
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>>166606228
>he needs people to turn aound to backstab them
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>>166605805
Yeah, and as how excellent Bloodborne turned out, how the fuck could I have predicted that they would ruin EVERYTHING about 3?
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>tfw I keep trying to do arena duels and I keep getting pissed because I get steamrolled by metashitters
Also fuck anybody who throws firebombs/knives. Like holy shit just give me a proper death, you gigantic pussy. What's the matter, too afraid to get into a trade that you're basically guaranteed to win?
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why the fuck is sonic in this game?
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>>166606127
Don't forget 99 blessings and 99 mushrooms.

And people complain about healing in DaS2. At least they didn't have poise chugging.

>>166606228
>backstab backstab backstab
>backstabbackstab backstab
>backstab backstabbackstab backstab backstab?
>backstab! backstab backstabbackstab backstab?
>backstabbackstab backstab backstabbackstab

How to spot a DaS1 shitposter.
They're like fucking pokemon with this shit.
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>>166606324
why the fuck they have lothric weaponry sticking out of them
were angel soldiers fighting with normal knights or something?
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>>166606304
Cause Bloodborne was obviously being given the attention of Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 while another DS sequel was obviously going to be the same phoned in, intern dev team garbage that the first was
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>>166606324
tried to escape to a not-dead game series but went hollow having no such luck
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>Ringed City
>don't find any rings
How mad are you?
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>>166606316

They do it to add insult to injury.

Looks like it worked.
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>>166606330
>Put yourself in position to get backstabbed
>Get backstabbed
>It's the game's fault

lmaoing at ur life shitter
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>>166606449
yeah there was a civil war between the angel side and the prince side

that bridge with a gauntlet of enemy that you cross before the twin princes boss is their last stand
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>>166606316
That's why you should stop caring about arena and start coming to /dsg/ FCs.
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>>166606553
You'll find lots of rings when you explore the butthole of the giant egg girl
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>>166606316
>dying to firebombs or knives
knives can be blocked with a styrofoam shield and firebombs are so slow and easily seen coming.
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>>166606008
>Fuckboy Moonchild
>shoots dumb magic and magic arrows
>only able to fight by utilizing a spacial illusion
>His Royal Highness, Archtree Pontiff Sulyvahn of Irithyll of the Boreal Valley
>buff enough to swing an UGS one handed
>smart enough to use an int-based greatsword
>shoots real magic and real fire
>can make illusions that take the initiative, can hurt you, and make more than one
>can close distance easily

really makes you ponder, it doesn't because he'd probably turn his lunar asshole inside out
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>>166606553
>ringed city
>not at the center of the multiverse with ma waifu as its uncarring protector

I'm already mad
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>>166606553
>ringed city
>its a straight line through all the content with no alternate paths, hidden areas or shortcuts
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>>166606597
I really love that enemy gauntlet. Makes for some fun stuff as well if you play around with rapport.
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>>166606619
>start coming to /dsg/ FCs.
>get known as "the guy who sucks ass at everything and loses all the time"
>eventually no one wants to fight me
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>>166606330
DaS 2 had more healing items and farming them was legit easier than in 1 because ascetics. I don't count them as issues in 1 because if your opponent uses them, they most likely cheated and they might just as well have cheated anything else.
2's world masters have better healing but their phantoms are weaker.
Resummoning is way easier in 2 though, but this is funnily enough, because 1's awful netcode
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>>166606798
have you ever tried to get good?

Heres the tip: if you are playing agressive and having fun then you are playing wrong
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>>166606798
>>eventually no one wants to fight me
There was one or two people who refused to fight mages a while ago, but other than that I've never seen anyone refuse a fight. Lots of people there suck too, so you won't stand out.
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>>166606553
>ringed city
>it's a barely village
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>>166606798
could be worse, you could be known as "the reincarnation of passive play" or even worse, "Drake"
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>>166606586
>he tried backstab fishing me so I went for a counter backstab but then he surprised me by doing a counter counter backstab and then chainstabbed my reverse roll when I tried to get behind him for another backstab and backstabbed me again on wakeup but I got away from the followup backstab by rolling in a direction he didn't expect and the fucker tried a poisestab but I was expecting it and stepped slightly backwards to counter his stab with my own backstab and finished off with a sick series of chain stabs that would make any twitchfag proud
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>>166606798
Nonsense, they'll love getting ezfrags but won't call you bad.
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>>166606913
>have you ever tried to get good?
Well obviously if I had done so I wouldn't be having this problem.
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>>166606921
this
i used to only host but i actually fought today and had a good winrate
the only person i consistently lost to unironically used a dark sword and kukris
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>>166607021
dont worry I had this problem too until I understood that the optimal playstyle is to wait around and punish whiff
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>>166606913
That's not true, you can win while being aggressive and having fun.
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>>166606619
BF?
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>>166606798
There was a guy fighting with SL1 character the other day and people usually try different shit there so it's not just lmao gargoyle flame spear and washing poles.
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>>166607217
no, and you should feel bad for ever thinking that
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>>166607217
Sure you can
>backpedals with estoc and BKS, throwing knives if you run in a straight line
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>>166607231
There's one pyro that spams it, but other than that I don't see Black Flame used much at /dsg/ FCs.
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>>166607362
>using quote arrows to *action*
Even leddit is too good for your kind.
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>running away from two aldrich fagsful non-stop for 10 minutes with way of blue
>no cop came

USE DARKMOON YOU ASSHOLES
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>>166606462
>>166606304

I dunno manes, I still like Dark Souls 3 a lot. My big beef with DS3 is how terrible the checkpointing feels especially after BB which had great world and level design and also good hub design.

They should've made the hub the only place you can warp to, be a little more liberal about giving estus from enemies but in exchange make the maps function around only one bonfire like Cotd.

The thrones should be the headstone/archstone equivalents for DS3 but instead they were just a reference.
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>>166606798
Just go there and have fun, use any weapons you like that's outside of anything that physically says "shitter" like carthus curved sword or flame spear. No one's there to win all the time and people who get upset are shitters
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>>166607445
Cops don't get summoned for Doggos and Faithfuls.
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>>166607445
AF DOESN'T TRIGGER DARKMOON YOU ASSHOLE
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>Seeded hacking gankers post-Pontiff
Fun
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>>166607071
was it ran "i quickly swap to other meta weapon when things go sour" mar?
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>>166607445
>>>running away from two aldrich fagsful non-stop for 10 minutes with way of blue
You just wasted 10 minutes for nothing. But your sacrifice didn't get wasted here, on /dsg/.
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Can any of you help me with BoC on PS3? SL 57, preferably put your sign at the Demon Ruins bonfire.
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>>166607593
yes
i only beat him 2/6 times
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>>166607528
>>166607538
THEN WHYT HE FUCK THESE FUCKTTARDS DROP WELL KEPT PROOF
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>>166604514
Very Skinny?
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>>166607589
>using all the advantages as host to gank
>plus cheating
I wouldn't try to question it anymore. But any sane man would know there has to be other ways for enjoyment.
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>>166607712
just like that, how do you use kukri in pvp I always thought they where useless
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Can I powerstance reapers in DS2?
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>>166607761
They don't.
It's a fextra myth
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>>166607761
They don't. At least, not AF specifically. Any invader can drop well kepts including RF.

Yes, sometimes AF doesn't drop well kepts. No, nobody knows what causes an invader to drop them.
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>>166607709
How can anyone help you with Bed of Chaos?
isn't that a gimmick boss?
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>>166607825

You play passive and punish miracles, pyros, miracles, slow huge as fuck weapons, etc. Basically a crossbow but a little slower. It has uses.
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>>166607297
>>166607362

You only lose to passive reactive shitters if they're actually really good at their weapon of choice. If you have a decent build and good skill you can beat 99% of the opponents you encounter in the arena, even if you play aggressive and they're being defensive.

A good aggressive weapon is Valorheart for example. The only super defensive build that gives it trouble is the BK Shield + Straight Sword setup. Best aggressive weapon in my opinion is the Corvian Greatknife, that build can demolish everything if you're intelligent enough. Use Bloodring,

The problem with being aggressive is that people think it means Attack Attack Attack and always run in and start with the same combo, which gets them killed. You have to apply pressure while looking for openings, and punish bad rolls, while still being aware of your defensive side. This isn't passive reactive playstyle because you will be applying pressure to your enemy, instead of waiting for them to attack.

Also this takes more skill than simply backpedalling and looking for whiffs, but it doesn't mean it isn't a viable playstyle.
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>>166607709
Be a cheap bitch and just quit each time you complete a side or, sit in front and lob firebombs to each corner so you don't have to guesswork that drop.
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>>166607896
but how could fextra lie to me?
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>>166607958
honestly idk I just want to try to have fun
at the very least I need some arrows or something
pls no bully
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>>166607896
Nope, fextra took that down half a year ago when it turned out there wasn't any evidence for it. The myth actually originates from reddit.
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>>166607825
They have a slower throw speed so you have to predict.
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>Place red summon sign
>Arrive at host's world
>Host is already deuling another phantom and expects me to sit there and wait for him to win
I have no words for how insensitive this is
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>>166608017
>in my opinion is the Corvian Greatknife, that build can demolish everything if you're intelligent enough.
>Use Bloodring
spotted the shitter
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Can you dupe souls in scholar like u could in ds1?
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>>166608060
Good joke anon.
I have a better joke though, fextra:

http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Blades+of+the+Darkmoon
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>>166608227
No.
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>>166608017
valorhearth is the best defensive weapon, and a very mediocre offensive one, its meant for trading and nothing else

the only good offensive weapon is the washing pole, and only its running attacks
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is fire whip frown upon nowadays?
>>
fc when
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>>166608272
God dammit, I edited that out three times already.
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>>166608289
I've never heard anyone bitch about fire whip. Fire surge, maybe, but not fire whip.
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>>166608017
>The only super defensive build

No Pyro build? Also, isn't it limited in terms of bigger weapons? You never really win trades which is a big part of the offense.
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>>166608356
theres been one every day for a week
fuck off
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>>166608274
that sucks bad
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>>166608364
I went to check the proof of concord well kept page first
That one isn't wrong, but says you must've sinned to be worth well kepts
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>>166608356
There was two earlier today.
I might host if there's enough demand, but I doubt there will be.
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>>166608289

No. Only Black Flame, Fire Surge, and Black Serpent. In other words, the only viable Pyromancies.
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>>166608356
I'd host if I was confident in my Internet's abilitity to not be trash.
I'd also like to try a different place than the norm to host it but I wouldn't be sure where.
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>>166604514
wtf are you doing nigger, I made a nigger in that game no problem?

Also
>expecting any Souls character creator to be good
enjoy limited options, grey hair and tattoos that fade off the face
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>>166607884
you can powerstance any two same-type weapons anon

you only have to ask if it's possible when you're trying to use two different-type weapons, like "can i powerstance a lance with a dagger" (turns out you can???)
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>>166608483
>sinning
I have no clue. Pretty sure it's there as a placeholder, but last time I tried to wrangle up a group to test the actual mechanics no one was interested. On multiple sites. Including here. So, a mystery it remains.
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fc now the pontiff area /dsg/ password judeau host tinder guy 120 ish or below or levels you know fc the happening
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>>166608497
I have a job desu
If you host it they will come
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>>166608541
Official /dsg/ Demon Ruins cancer PC FC when?
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>PCuck fc
how is dat possible when literally the entire tiny pcuck online are banned kek
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>>166608276
>valorhearth is the best defensive weapon, and a very mediocre offensive one, its meant for trading and nothing else

That's not true. It has one of the best roll catches in the game (r1 + jump attack true combo) and a good fast jump attack that blocks while attacking and can't be guard broken that works as a great gap closer. You can force people to either engage you directly, where you win thanks to your trading capabilities, or roll away, letting them be at the mercy of your roll catches or gap closers.
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>>166608604
Everyone wants to know. There's no way to test it though since it's random.
My guess is the only way to test would be to have super human level hosts/invaders/darkmoon all in the same area
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>>166608770
Do you even know what true combo means?
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>>166608773
That, or manufacture a closed network using commodore or some other user-friendly firewall. Either way, it'd take way too much effort.

I did have people saying I gave them well kepts when I invaded as red while wearing AF though, on a character that never invaded before. So 'sin' might have nothing to do with it, but AF also not always dropping well kepts puts a damper on AF having anything to do with it, either.
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>>166608770
you know what, i'll try it
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>>166608401
The jump attack lets you punish Pyros really well, because you can attack them before getting in range of Black Flame which is the main risk. The only true danger is being chipped to death by Fire Surge but if you play your cards right you can deal with that too, with roll catches. It isn't easy but it isn't especially hard compared to using any other melee build against that kind of thing that isn't a katana.
>>
The Fextralife wiki says Lothric Knights drop sunlight medals, but I've never seen a single one from them, after over 100 hours of playing. Is that straight bullshit?
>>
Is there an NG checklist to do at the end of the game before the final boss, or after it before going on to NG+?

I've done the DLC and the optional areas, just not sure if there's anything I missed that may not have been obvious.
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>>166609016
na they do, i'm pretty sure
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>>166609016
Nope, it's true. I've had medals drop from them a few times, though only in the Dragon Barracks area.
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>>166609016
I can confirm that they do drop them, the spear knight just before the first bonfire in lothric castle dropped one for me a few days ago.
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>>166608884
Yes. A R1 combos into a jump attack if the R1 was a roll catch as opposed to a normal hit.

>>166608941
Search for Jinwoo Chung's videos on YT about the Valorheart, he plays a bit less aggressive than me because he doesn't risk himself with jump attacks the same way I do, but he's still really good with Valorheart. It isn't an easy weapon to use, it has a pretty high skill cap.
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>>166609082
>>166609084
>>166609130
Maybe it's not the ones on the bridge before twin princes? I like to farm those guys.
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>>166608925
I have managed to get well kepts from purples even, so it's surely not it.
A common theory is that you'd get well kepts on evert second kill in the same defense, but it doesn't work 100% for me either.
Sin could even be PvE sin like killing NPCs, which you do for a few quests even.

For all we know it's random
Either way the information would be good to know but not so useful so most people gave up
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>>166609012
>The jump attack lets you punish Pyros really well, because you can attack them before getting in range of Black Flame

That's pretty risky. You can space poorly and catch the very tail end of flame or just eat the whole flame all together.
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>>166609241
those at the 1st bonefire, right after buttlady
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If I want to cosplay as a flamin' hot cheeto in DS2, should I use powerstanced Red Rust Scimitars?
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>>166609471
>drive
is the car secret loot somewhere in the new dlc
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>>166609579
>post deleted

DLC LEAKS GUYS, IT'S HAPPENING
UNCLE GAEL BUYS YOU A CAR
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Is it possible to do a low level pure faith build? I want to do a mix of co-op and pvp.

I can't fucking tell where the population is at at what SL and WL.
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>>166599561
rollin this shit
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>>166608613
>you know fc the happening
What?
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>>166599561
Fuck it, reroll because magic is boring.
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>>166609742
>>166609854
>any magic, swords, knight
>reroll because magic is boring
what
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>>166609365
Yes, it's risky, and pyros can be a pretty tough match if they're good, but not enough to be considered a counter to VH. At least in my opinion, I haven't fought many good pyros aside from MotherLake.
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>twinked out sl15 +0 weapon
>waiting at the foot of the high wall for hours
>start invading out of boredom
>13 pale tongues in an hour
blues have it so unfair ;_;
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>>166609968
Magic in Dark Souls is boring. It usually makes the game either too easy or tedious. Also I'd have to reroll since my entire roll is my current playthrough.
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>>166609727
Healsluts can be surprisingly helpful since low-levels will usually do shit like miss Estus Shards or take way too much damage from mobs.

Just remember to actually be able to deal damage, otherwise you're worthless against invaders and in boss fights. Raw Astora Straight Sword would help in that regard.
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>>166610027
Yeah even me, who is always saying that I'm lucky with Darkmoon summons, got none today, bah I got one but the invader was already dead so I didn't get any Concord (not like i need them). It sucks when you see you're getting summoned so you get excited, and then it turns out the invader was already destroyed by the 3 Darksword Cuties the host already had so you don't get anything.
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>>166610075

Magic on its own is bland, but the only saving grace of melee is the flexibility and diversity of the weapons. You can try going spellsword, those are usually much more fun.
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>>166610027

I imagine anyone who would know about the WoB covenant wouldn't be there for long, so you won't get many summons.
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>>166606316
Welcome to the real world.
Theres so many petty people in the world its actually disburting
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so what did the ecelebs say after getting back from their dlc2 sneak peak?
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>>166610118
thanks, i just go pretty unmotivated when i saw how slow it is to try to use the AOE miracles like DPoL, WOTG, and thunderstorm.
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>>166610027
>+0

You don't know how to twink.
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>>166610630
They can't say anything until February, there's an embargo.
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>>166608582
Did you make him soft-skinned? That tends to help hide the shitty splotches.
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>Still really cheesed about all my failures in arena
>Too angry to focus
>Get my ass kicked by Dragonslayer Armor 10 times in a row, all right when he's about to die.
>mfw
I'm too worked up and tense to play, but I'm too pissed to let this go and get to bed. Please just put a fucking bullet in my skull.
>>
Is there any way to change the controller keybinds in DS2? I'm using an 8-yo 360 pos with worn out analog switches, makes guard-breaks & lunge-attacks unreliable as fuck.
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>>166610831
I can help in a bit anon. I'll be at DA soon.
I am in NG+ though.
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>>166610831
Angry fap then go to bed
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>>166610758
why February, that's an oddly specific restriction
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>>166610075
what does "starting class knight, weapon type swords" have to do with magic though
you misread the image, is what i'm saying
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Sorry to make multiple posts but did they fucking nerf WOTG in the past year?
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>>166611024
No, it has always been terrible.
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>boc can firestorm even when youre sliding down
what the fuck
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>>166610716
a DS1 or 2 twink should always have a max-reinforced weapon, but DS3 includes weapon plusses in its matchmaking criteria
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>>166611024
You made way to many posts anon. I'll have to ban you
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>>166610901
you can use something like x360ce to change how the controller behaves so shit like pressing X sends a left-trigger input to the game or whatever
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>>166610939
This is probably what I'll be doing. I just realized my head also hurts from all this seething hatred deep within me, so no more video games tonight.
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>>166611162
The weapon level range can go up and down, brah. He could upgrade that thing to +2 and still get into worlds with +0, keeping his weapon at +0 only limits people invading him to lower levels, which twinks should not care about.
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>>166606553
>Ringed City
>It's only a semi-circle and you can only access a small portion of it.
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who is the Punished Snake of the Souls series?
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>>166611335
Aw.
Have another sad kitty.
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Dammit this weapon is sexy. I wish it was better.
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>>166606553
>Ringed City
>It's actually an elliptical city
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>>166611371
omg is that allfather lloyd???
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>>166610758
I'm conflicted whether I want to leave here and all forms of ds media to escape the spoilers or just embrace it and find out where my money's spent. The worst thing that could happen now is that ecelebs leak out exaggerated bullshit like always and kept us hyped for nothing.
>>
>>166611158
>tfw doing my best to keep you away from the worst boss in the game and you hate me for it
>>
>>166611695
post yfw the spoilers sound outrageous and you don't believe a word of it but then they all turn out to be accurate
>>
Holy shit, why do so many great hammers have horrifically bad scaling? They're pathetic even for pve usage.
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>>166611024
WoTG has only been good in Demon's and vanilla Dark. Never played 2 on release so I have no idea how OP miracles used to be then.
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>>166611649
I hope you're not being serious.
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>>166606721
AoA wasn't.
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>>166599561
roll
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>get invaded in literally the first area, twice
>both of them wearing endgame gear with magic buffed weapons
>both roll away and chug estus after taking >40% damage
>first one points down after getting the kill, having chugged twice wearing Havel's against my unupgraded longsword
>escape the second one into the boss fog, but they kill my buddy and the NPC phantom and taunt (I hear from my friend as I'm powerless to help on the other side of the fog)
What is it with every game with even the slightest chance for a power trip that turns people into massive fucking cunts
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>>166611902
>>166611902
>>166611902
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>>166611803
I might be completely wrong, but the OP part of faith in DaS2 was mostly a lightning spear thing.
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>>166609143
well fuck
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>>166611649
No, it's Bob. The fourth sibling of the Sable Church. Be nice to him.
>>166611770
>mfw we fite darku souru
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>>166611649
I thought DaS3 was supposed to look good?
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>>166611742
I actually cannot make the jump onto the tree platform
>start sliding
>it firestorms
>cause of end lag from falling it has enough time to do the double sweep
>if I block one hand I get hit by the other
>if I run to the platform I get hit out of the air
I hope turning my PS3 on and off isn't going to fuck my save
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>>166611776
Because FROM wants you to use great club.
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>>166611335
>>166611425
That was a funny interaction between you anons
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>invade
>can't find host
>look everywhere and can't find dead mobs
>break some furniture and get nothing
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>>166611742
lol what did you do?
did you fuck with his game somehow so he cant fight the boss, or did you just invade/kill him?
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Someone to help with OCEEEELOOOOOOOTEEEEE?
PC,Lothric Castle, SL90 something ,pass:halp
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>>166613854
I'll be there in a few.
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>>166614327
lel, that didn't work, where do we meet so we can kill oceiros?
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>>166614440
Dancer bonfire?
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>>166614440
My sign is at the entry to the
Consumed King's Garden
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>>166614579
thx bby
>>166614575
dealt with, thanks
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>>166615016
In the immortal words of Cr1t1kal:
"Oh. Alright. I guess I'll go fuck myself then."
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>>166615136
Don't be like that, wanna play together a bit?
Maybe get the Dragonslayer Armor down, and stuff, I'm on NG+ anyway
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>>166616081
I'm on NG+ as well.Haven't made it to the fog gate of Armor yet but I'm sure I'll get there soon.
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>>166616237
I'm there, Pass?
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>>166616767
pass: halp, Armor's fog gate
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>>166599917
fucking please holy shit
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>>166617163
let's do Vordt and then keep going, if you want it, that is
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>>166600842
>even if

I didn't even consider him to be possibly anything but a boss.

But wait

What if we meet him and he's hollowed and walking in circles
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>>166617467
Where do I lay muh sign down?
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>>166617610
next to his fog gate, and I forgot to save greirat, lol
Also add me so we can stop cluttering the thread
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>pop dried finger in catacombs to make things more interesting
>invaders soon they realize they cant win
>70% of them just run into mobs and chug when low

so this is what people were complaining about

i dont remember it being this common though
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>tfw keep trying to use my weapon art but my shield is a parrying shield so i look like a jackass
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>>166579748
wait why isn't drake on there
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