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thought for the day:
waifus are not real
Previously:
>>166306576
1st for BB sterns
KM DDs need buffs
>>166458278
HET!))
>>166458278
go to GULAG
Destroyer Escorts
>just barely evaded a torpedo spread in my Bayern
>suddenly, even more torps come from the side, directly at me!
>there's no way I can evade
>goodbye, cruel world
>the torps dissappear 1 second before they would hit
>>166458278
should have won the war comrad))))
is there anything weebs dont ruin?
>>166458965
>>166458140
#notmyclanflag
In game preview
>>166459592
Looks like shit.
>>166459592
preferred the KM inspired one
>>166459592
needs more weeb
>>166459592
said flag
>>166459680
kys irl asap
until then:
>>>/reddit/jinglesCP
>>166459798
why are you so mad senpai?
>There are BOTES in this thread who don't want this to be their flag
Disgusting
>>166460080
>>166460134
Fuck off prec
BFT or DE for USN DDs?
>>166460470
Simple math.
BFT increases your fires per minute by 10%.
DE -- (2+5)/5=1.4 or 40%.
>>166460173
>namedropping
kys weeb
>>166460876
>pushing for le ebin 4chins xdddd flag when nobody likes it
kys normie
>>166460080
I suppose you need the anime crap to cover up that the fact it is a rising sun flag.
>>166461130
>WOWS CBT
>on topic, informed discussions
>baBBys in their place
>shallows
>weebs shot on sight
>post CBT
>rampant anime avatarfagging and shitposting
>trash meta
>baBBys and CVnts not gassed
>no minute details in the maps
really fires up those neurons
>French BB line still not announced
>>166461352
And this is how you spot a newfag. Or a delirious normie.
/wowsg/'s first thread was full of weebs. Beta Weekend and CBT was the highpoint of poi spam.
Really makes the noggin spin
>>166461639
>things that never happened
the post
>>166461490
Soon, mon ami. Soon...
>>166461490
>>166462098
More Russian ships is the priorty, Tovarisch. Trust me, all that the player wants are anon-existent Russian Sekrit Dokumint Botes ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Tirpitz4Life
>>166459592
>>166459695
KM one was better. Why would you choose this flag? Hold a vote, for fuck's sake.
>>166462098
Soon... Only the cruiser and DD lines are coming this year.
And british BBs.
Plus whathever BALANS ship they find laying around on vodka stained napkins.
But hey! If Stalin had a wet dream in wich a russian BB had 12 480mm guns, Yamato armor and 40 knots of speed it sure has a right to be in the game right?
WHY DO PEOPLE NOT CONTEST CAP. FUCK.
>>166463170
Why do DDs go to cap at the start of the game, stop and lay 1 puff of smoke and sit in it.
>>166463170
>playing the objective
>>166463170
It doesnt get u wtr ))))))
>>166463297
>before they're even spotted
they're the easiest fucking torpedo kills too, just shoot a spread in there and they'll never have moved.
>>166461707
>https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/102820642/
No weeb pictures here, boss.
>>166463297
They are being considerate to the opposition. It's a lot easier to torpedo them that way. And the poor bastards that are coming to support them.
>>166463583
>tfw going through old /wowsg/s to see who was around posting screenshots back then
should I have RPF on murrican cruisers?
>>166461707
>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=49469757
The picture >>166461639 posted was drawn in March 2015, literally less than two weeks after closed beta started, and shortly after the KanColle anime ended. Pic related was drawn 4 days after closed beta started.
Now tell me how I know you weren't actually there in CBT (hint: shallows had already ceased to exist by the wings over water weekend).
>>166464504
oh nice, forgot pic
Anyone knows how can I join a bloody clan?
Brand newfag here want to stick to a nation, what nation to pick senpaitachi?
>>166464370
It's not a bad idea to get it on Baltimore or DM.
>>166466083
Get an invite thingy for your server before you start.
Which server are you on?
>>166466083
USN is the best, we won the war after all
>>166466231
Can't give you an invite then, sorry.
You gotta wait for one of the NA guys to hand you one.
Good lines to play are US DDs, RU DDs, IJN cruisers, German BBs. Avoid carriers right now.
Sticking to one nation will cause you to get one or two shit lines for every good line.
>>166466231
Here's a NA invite code.
http://playtogether.worldofwarships.com/invite/AD735Em
DOES WARGAMING THINK IT'S FUNNY TO REDISTRIBUTE ALL CAPTAIN SKILLS?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>166466425
Redeemed, thanks
>>166466387
copy that, thank you, so i should go for US DD's as the first purchases?
>>166466083
can't go wrong with bias nation
Were captains cloned ,in the IJN DD split ,with their points unspent?
>>166466685
The best way to go at it would be to play US DDs, IJN cruisers and German BBs to t5, to see how shit works and what you like.
Russian DDs are also good
>>166467118
No.
>>166467118
Cute!
What 2 point skill do I get on the graf spee? None of the options seem particularly great, but then I'm bad at using consumables.
>>166468256
Expert marksman.
Adrenalin rush alternatively
>>166451880
Why did they switch the number 3 turret on Fuso but not Yamashiro?
>>166454293
The latter. In my case my Minekaze (old) XP was transferred to Minekaze (new), though. This was probably an error, as if I was at Minekaze in the grind, I wouldn't have been able to use the XP to continue up the main line. I sent in a support ticket and they converted my Minekaze XP to free XP.
>>166459695
Get rid of the dirt.
>>166460470
BFT. USN DDs are all about knife-fights. BFT will help you win those, DE don't. Also consider Adrenaline Rush.
>>166467118
No. They stayed at whichever tier they were on. You also received a captain with a few points for each affected ship with a captain assigned to it (n.b.: one captain per ship, not one captain per captain).
>>166468550
I'll give that a go then. I figured it was useless since the turrets are so speedy already.
what is Des Moines shell travel time at 18km?
>>166459592
>>166459695
why are you still trying to force this when a clearly superior flag has been made?
>Italian BB line still not announced
>>166468954
So they gave you free ships but not the captains for them? Am I just wasting my time by training captains for the RU DD split?
>>166466221
USSR won the war you yank. Russian botes the best
>>166469638
We're still waiting to find out
>>166470258
They gave you free ships. If they were at the same tier as their replacement, you captain kept the specialisation for that tier. If they were moved down, you received a new captain with a few points.
Example: Fubuki (VIII) with Yoshimitsu Fujita becomes Kagero (VIII) with Yoshimitsu Fujita and Fubuki (VI) with New Guy (5 points)
https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/updates/patch-notes-0515/#Japanese%20Destroyers
>>166471078
Thanks for some reason I tought that I'd get two captains with the same amount of poi nts as the one before the split.
>>166471231
>poi nts
>>166471708
Poi~¿?
I've been grinding on the NC for a while now and I'm starting to get tired of it. Is Iowa really worth it?
>>166473810
Iowa is way more frustrating than NC due to raised citadel, poor maneuverability, high tier gameplay.
Honestly, Iowa is probably better overall but NC is just more fun to play.
>>166473810
The Iowa is basically just the NC with better accuracy, more HP, faster speed, faster shell travel time and the shells are way less floaty.
You have probably learned from the NC to never show your side, so you probably won't have any problems playing T10 games.
Always spec for stealth. Use your speed to your advantage.
>>166476354
NC has better sigma
>>166477145
What I meant was that the Iowa seems to have better horizontal dispersion than the NC.
Plus, with the Accuracy Module, you can tighten up the Iowa's shell grouping even more.
The NC's more floaty shells seems to make the shell disperse wider the longer they stay in the air.
After almost 300 games in the NC and 144 games on the Iowa, you can observe it pretty well.
>>166477145
>sigma
What was this again ? vertical dispersion ?
>>166473810
>Is Iowa really worth it?
"wows stats Iowa" put this in google and compare to oher t9 bb's.
Is there a mod that switches the gun measurements from millimeters to inches? I want to satisfy my naval autism
>>166478639
>using jew units
>>166478837
Israel uses the Metric System.
>>166463583
normies BTFO LMAO
>>166469638
AP speed is 762 m/s
Projectile mass is 1225
Or just press ALT and compare distance with w\shell traveling time.
>>166461639
>Beta Weekend and CBT was the highpoint of poi spam.
Poi
>>166479436
poi
>>166478837
>Jew units
One system was invented by England, God's own favored nation.
The other was invented by libcuck frog peasants.
I'll let you decide which one is more Jewish.
>>166458278
>KM DDs need buffs
Take your powerfantasies somewhere else, stat sites and WG say they perform fine.
>>166478837
Does it flare your autism when you realize the game uses horsepower instead of watts for engine power?
>>166479970
or Knots, for that matter.
>>166479596
>>166479538
>>166479970
>>166480165
There is a difference between 'using metric like everyone with common sense does' and 'being an autist about SI'
>>166480165
Knots is legit because it is a measurement based on a property of the earth, hence why it is useful for navigation, (1 nm = 1 minute of longitude)
>>166480560
>Earth
Where do you think horses come from? Uranus?
>>166479970
How do you feel about the game using km to measure distances? How about US and RN guns being measured in centimeters? Are you going to post on /pol/ about how this semitic conspiracy is trampling on your freedoms and bringing the white man down?
[HOTEL] Clan when
>>166459592
now make previews of the KM and the moetel flag
gud bote
>>166480560
Well yeah. Fathoms and Cables are understandable in this context, too.
Unfortunately, the rest of the imperial system stopped being useful when we stopped using our knuckles to count.
I swear all the people who play tier 9 and 10 have autism. They sperg out about the smallest shit in each match
>>166483153
>the top performing T10 DD, 2nd highest performing ship in T10 and the top T10 overall is a gud bote
Gee willikers batman, who would have guessed?
>>166483625
If you're willing to risk paying out of your ass just to be 100% top tier you're pretty much autistic by definition.
>>166483625
Tier 10 gameplay is shitty enough to put anyone on edge. Nothing like skulking around unable to accomplish anything for 15 minutes only to get deleted.
>>166482703
>moetel flag
Not him but here you go.
>reminder that WG promised new weapons in 2017
>reminder that WG promised new VMF DDs that won't be in the upcoming branch
>>166484232
PERFECTION
>>166484232
Gross. Definitely not using this for our clan.
>>166484232
Would fly/10
>>166484232
It's glorious.
>>166484232
ugly AF
>>166458140
New to the game here, looking for a referral code plz. NA Server.
>>166484232
Glorious.
The red version >>166460080
would be better tho.
>>166485407
https://playtogether.worldofwarships.com/invite/YKr9eko
>>166485424
>red version
can't have evil fascist sunrise flag of warcrimes, comrade!
i am potato lol xD
dude vegetables lol XD
>>166485407
https://playtogether.worldofwarships.com/invite/KOWDKDn
>>166485886
better to potato that to tomato
>>166485886
Now that's a low effort shitpost, good job.
>>166486185
MAYBE I'LL DIE
TANKIEST
>>166458278
>Geman anything needs a buff
Kys desu
>spotting an SE Yamato post-rework
this is even worse than before, make it stop
STOP
>>166458278
KM DDs in real life were kinda garbage, so they're performing better than they should.
>>166485667
accepted. I guess everything else is automatic now?
>>166485993
Sorry man. Other anon was first. Thanks though
>>166487248
Game balance comes long before historical balance, otherwise this would just be world of carriers.
>>166487248
game balance has nothing to do with history, anon
>>166480165
>>166480478
>>166480560
The knot is a non-SI unit accepted for use with the SI.
>>166487251
>accepted. I guess everything else is automatic now?
No idea. I think it is, but it's mainly to make sure you get some free premiums out if it.
>play t6
>have fun
>no camping BS
>no CVnts
>play t10
>no fun
>everybody camps
>CVnts everywhere
hmmm
>montana shows its broadside to my bisco at 5km
>wreck his citpussy 5 times
>complains in the rest of the match how that's bullshit and a tier 8 BB shouldn't be able to wreck a tier 10
I don't understand how you can make it to tier 10 and not understand little things.
>>166484232
It's beautiful
>>166489320
>>play t6
>>no CVnts
haha nice joke.
>>166479970
No.
t. actual autist
I'm going to marry Kongou!
>>166487141
gotta get that 6 figure health
>>166494230
I'm going to kill Kongo!
>>166494426
Is this a TF2 loadout or something
>>166458140
Captain skills for UK aren't in pastebin
>>166489581
>US citadels are historically below the water line
>WG fixes German BB citadels to their historically accurate level
>Thinks it's fine that KM BBs are the strongest out there
Kys
>>166494948
Only good players play Bismarck ok kid
>>166495034
>Only good players play Bismark
Because it's the only BB that's actually viable at that tier. Any retard can pick it up and be successful
>>166494948
I'm not saying that, I'm saying it's retarded to go broadside, get fucked, then complain about it.
>>166495312
Meanwhile it's fine that German BBs can go broadside and take almost 0 punishment for it.
>>166495512
Yeah, the normal 16-20k pen damage is completely to low to matter to any KM BB /s
>>166495804
The issue is that their health pool is ridiculously high.
>Let's make German BBs have the longest range secondaries
>Let's give them armor that prevents citadels at close range no matter the caliber of the gun
>Let's make them have the largest health pool
>Llets give them decent main guns anyway that can still pen ships that are bow on or angled
They're the definition of power creep.
>>166496082
>Llets give them decent main guns anyway that can still pen ships that are bow on or angled
what did he mean by this
>Let's give them armor that prevents citadels at close range no matter the caliber of the gun
what did he mean by this
Tried so hard but in the end it doesn't even matter
>>166484232
The smugest flag.
>>166496556
>>166497445
Wew, dude, you've been away for centuries.
Post outrageously weeb port.
>>166484232
Now that's a flag I would gladly serve under.
>>166484232
abomination/10
>>166497891
Yeah I took a break to do some exams and stuff. My port is as disgustingly weeb as ever and I am still using those outrageous skins.
>>166500213
Major in weeabooness?
>>166500424
Closer enough. I study Asia Pacific (Japanese Language) and had a speaking exam and reading/writing exam that will decide if I study in Japan next year so had to take time out for it.
>>166500656
>anon living the dream
>>166500213
>that haruna pic
Oh this isn't what I like to see
>>166503189
>Single T9
is fine )))
>>166503189
>>166503325
Went better than expected. Sunk the Yamato, Bismark and Atlanta also got a cit on the Yamato.
>>166503189
>Guderian
>Khaba.
>>166458495
>Samuel B. Roberts
>not a Native American qt
Do the artists even research the ship they anthropomorphize?
Why Ibuki is considered a good ship, but Baltimore that has closr characteristics in most areas except 1-2 is "garbage"?
>>166504758
>44 shots
>only 72k
Lot of overpens/bounces?
>>166506318
I suppose he shot the enemy yamato a lot.
>>166506243
Muzzle velocity
so fucking easy
please tell me how to not git gud
>>166508905
nice $150 ship kiddo
>>166509554
Zulu, anniversary camo, premium time, anything else?
>>166509554
>not showing the missions
>>166505536
>Roberts was born in San Francisco, California, on May 12, 1921.
>>166508905
Gud Goy
>>166505536
Huh? What does Samuel B. Roberts have to do with Native Americans?
It was USS Johnston that had a Native American captain.
>>166505536
If anyone should have been a native american it would have been Saratoga, since her name (battle aside) is actually Native American in root. The rest are all pretty normal european names.
Have they changed AR to affect secondaries yet?
>>166514148
no, but it's planned
>graf's free is now graf's pay
>RIPIPIP anyone who didnt got mini shinyhorse
>business6 dropped the game after 6500 rounds and literally all tier cheese ships
>reasons for dropping includes butthurts over RPF and handholding skills
>he will likely not return for H A I F U R I collab
>maybe somewhere within 3 months we will get new waifus
>yet another myoko as a reward!
>it should be a proper premium, might not train captains, who knows
>skills rework is here!
>RPF was smoke and mirrors to hide the real OP shit
>IFHE is shite on 200mm, good on anything else
>mind the structure health and you should get your salt from it
>IFA is a baBBys wet dream against torpedoes
>DCfCA is shit but somehow DDs hate it
>AR is the sex
>new )))))) DD line split next
>cold war ships, very balans, maybe even some rocket propelled supercavity torps
>new tier cheese )))) DD should have AShM unless 80mm is useable as primary
>khab will get heal in exchange of smoke for some odd reason
as the day goes by the ocean sunset, the sun bakes your ship and shells stand by, who do you think on to make the time fly by?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBYxPsvbEIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4R-eZCQSNsi might stop with my funposts, its difficult to find shit to write tiny news about
>>166514731
>khab will get heal in exchange of smoke for some odd reason
Is it their roundabout way of admitting that she's a small CL?
>>166514907
She is destroyer leader tovarish.
>>166515343
She's a big destroyer leader
>>166515807
for you
>wave stops playing and sells his account
>thread is suddenly nicer and with very little shitposting
i cant make zao's torp work. i had a kurfust at 3km taking both port broadside and survive. i saw my torps running 400m short of hitting a des memes. its just not sufficient to invisifire, already disregarding the firing arcs, wich are wonderful to suicide run and sufficient to invisitorp, had the torps had 1,5km more of range.
sure its nice to citpen hindenburg, hit fletchers at 12km, set baBBies on fire over 19km range with spotter plane, but in the end of the day, i did that with iBuki and zao only has better shell velocity as a real upgrade.
>>166517285
>wave stops playing and sells his account
yes hello what?
>>166517285
But we still have a couple other unicums that people regularly shitpost about until they play with them.
>>166517313
But... but forum posters told me that Zao is OP
>>166518319
We just need to get LunaticRed to impersonate them in the gen and have him go ham at them tbqhfamalam it worked the first time.
>>166517313
Just forget about actively using them, and remember them when somthing stumbles into your range and arcs.
>>166518319
like who?
>>166517285
>wave stops playing and sells his account
is that why his name suddenly changed to akogare and hid his stats?
>>166514731
oh no he might stop his blog how will we fucking move on
>>166517285
>wave stops playing and sells his account
wait what
>tfw you're a literal who and you will never have this many shitposters stalking you
feelsgoodman
>>166519581
just show up as a purple on statskun's list and you'll have people shitposting about you all the time :^)
>Bought Indianapolis
>Has guns half the size of what it historically had
>>166519996
what are you on about?
>IX and X gameplay
This is supposed to be a reward?
>>166519996
Did you get your history lessons from Nicolas Cage?
>>166520259
is very strategic and epic tovarisch kapitan )))))
>>166520150
>>166520275
>they dont know about the fabled Indiana(polis)
>>166518563
by then if im not dead im losing real bad.
the more i look into it the more ijn ca feels like a mistake that corrects itself when played like a DD. except zao can only invisifire to save its life, with shorter range by default
>>166519719
orange for statskun is light blue on wtr
so you can shitpost on the forums to get stalkers if you are not a tomato on his list
>start of battle, ping is fine
>as soon as enemy ships show up 500 ping and red lag light
REEEEEEE
>>166520767
>hating on the Zao
If you haven't learned how to play (IJN) CA now, perhaps it's not meant to be.
>>166521048
ibuki is my main ship. before that, aoba.
torping was a big deal for me. i wish i could reuse old replays, id make one of those corny videos with ibuki torp kills and some shitty maymay interlaced
>enemy team has 2 Shimakazes and 3 Fletchers
>>166520767
>except zao can only invisifire to save its life
if you think that's the only thing it can do then you're not playing it right
>>166522135
Do I believe a supertester unicum and a /wowsg/ regular or a shitposter like you?
http://forum.worldofwarships.asia/index.php?/topic/21844-zao-is-op/
Checkmate cunt.
>>166522232
kys lunatic
>I'm dreading IFHE on Zaou, to be honest. Zaou's HE alpha is already murderous enough.
>Zaou
gas Syanda when?
>tfw three 30k games in a row at tier 8-9
I think it's quitting time.
>>166522539
30k is good for tier 8-9 IJN DD
Anything else yeah, kill yourself.
>>166522813
>30k is good for tier 8-9 IJN DD
thats just pathetic
*dis gun b guud*
what did he mean by this
>all team goes to A
>doesn't manage to cap A
>>166521006
>only 500
Do you even shitty internet, my tovarisch?
>>166522514
>spells it Zaou
>clearly doesn't know how IFHE works
>>166522232
>Effect at what? Dealing damage? Mind you, a high damage number doesn't necessarily imply influence over the outcomes of battles
>DD hunting, crowd control, anti CA shelling, all good if you take ROF
Wtf even is crowd control?
>>166523202
Zao has a pretty good AoE silence :^)
>baBBy complains when I provide covering smoke for him
>Another baBBy in a different game complains when I don't provide covering smoke for him
Fucking bastards
>>166523029
wtf?
how does this guy get DD who travel in a straight line broadside when theyre spotted, have 0s shell flight time on desmoines, 0m dispersion and perfect aim to hit centre of mass?
Surely he has a 90%+ WR
Help
How do I convince my teams to not play like shit?
>Support cruisers
>Cruisers die because they overextend
>I get focused
>Team manages no kills after I die
>baBBies in gneisenaus hide behind islands
>baDDies and CAsuals die to obvious torpedo strikes.
>>166523595
>2017
>Not emulating ur opponents mindset while ur shooting them
>Pick flags
>SUPERCONTAINER
>250 india xray
t-thanks...
>>166522232
Please buff Zao, give it radar and 60k HP.
Thank you.
>>166517313
If you can't hit something the size of Kurfurst from 3km away with 76-knot torps, you just suck. If you did hit, given that Kurfurst has practically no TDS and Zao's torps have 21366 alpha, 6 hits will outright kill him. Period. You have 8 torps per side.
>fire torpedoes at enemy battleship
>Allied DD speed boosts and turns into the torps
That had to have been on purpose...
>>16652471210 torps a side, actually. Praise Zao!
>>166524712
Actually he has 10 torps per side, Zao gets 4x5.
>>166525650
>>166525698
Zao still need buffs, you don't know what you're talking about.
>>166524584
>Someone starts making forum edits like Lunatic did of my forum posts
Keep it up, soon you may rival a size like loony's
what fucking ship has 13km radar???
Is it though?
>>16652576310x5 F3s when
>>166525953
None, the Moskva has 12km if you round it up from 11.7 though.
benis :DDDD
>>166525996
How is 11.7km = 13km???
>>166526062
>not already knowing that lunatic is a massive shitter
>>166526180
>lunatic is a massive shitt(post)er
ftfy
Yes hello I have played tons of Shimakaze (not on the live server) and it's a completely balanced ship
You have no argument.
Bye.
>finally get Iowa's C hull
>first game with it
It was worth it. It was all worth it.
>>166526690
Are you the anon from a couple threads ago that asked if Iowa Hull C was any good? Congrats Anon.
>>166526780
Yeah that was me. I went through a bit of a slump when I first played a stock Iowa, but the hulls really do make all the difference.
It's great.
>team manages to throw game after being up 6 ships
>>166526946
So tell us
What does the C hull improve besides a couple of thousand hitpoints and couple seconds rudders?
>>166527059
The difference between 25 seconds and 15.6 seconds is pretty huge, anon. And an extra 10k health is never unneeded.But really combined with the fact my captain finally finished retraining and it's a whole new ship.
>>166527335
>25 seconds and 15.6 seconds
> extra 10k health
Check the numbers again fuckface.
>>166527427
Burgerboos aren't known for their skill in math, anon.
>>166527491
Judging by the NA server they're not known for their skill in general.
I don't know why you guys are all upset about LunaticRed when we should actually be focusing on the real problem that's ruining these threads: People who division with one another exclusively and don't play with anyone else.
>>166527547
>t. SEApe
13km radar lmao
>>166527625
t. lunaticshitter
>Wyoming can't hit my Caledon at 7-8km range
O-Okay
>>166527761
>Kaiser misses several times at 4km range
Is this the Twilight Zone?
>>166458495
Which Colle is this from? Kantai, Chino, or Burger?
>>166528727
It's certainly not from KC.
>>166528618
No, this is T4
>>166528774
the Twilight 4one?
Guess that bote
>Friend hasn't played tonks in years
>convince him to try botes, give him invite code
>website says code will work because he hasn't been playing, and so he'd be below rank 3
>nothing happens
>he sends support ticket
>support says invite code only works for brand new WG accounts
>>166528964
>flat bottomed boats, you make the water world sink down
>>166529259
what did he mean by this
>>166529160
That's how invite codes work. Referral codes are the ones that you don't have to be new to use.
>>166464597WHAT DAY IS IT?
>>166522979
That's like, normal because your torps doesn't hit and you start using your guns. You get more if are lucky enough to hit torps.
>tfw 1.2k damage per salvo
>7s to reload
Fucking guns.
the fire rises
>three games
>out of daily reports
>tfw you realize you won every game you played today
Feels good man.Even if I was carried in some of them ;_;
>hotspot
>Team goes C/B
>NC surfs the 1 line
WHY
HOW CAN YOU GET TO TIER 8 AND STILL BE THIS OBLIVIOUS TO MAP POSITIONING?
>>166530897
>not a 4 fire bote
>>166531204
is four fires, fire too fast for battleship ))
I feel like everyone uses the mod that removes text chat.
>>166531202
>shards south spawn
>BBs go the long way around A
>BBs go to C and camp there all match
Fucking retards, I swear.
>gunbote DDs that camp in their smoke behind your cruisers and BBs
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>166531338
Get a better computer
>>166531695
The worst part is then he ran to a corner, turned broadside and told the enemy team to kill him because we already lost.
We were even on ships and could have pulled it back if he wasn't such a huge shitter.
>>166532346
BBs seem to give up often, even if they're winning
Why is it so sexy
>>166530960
Sounds like a good day. Normally I'm done in two.
New player here. Is there anything you can do besides hope and pray when an enemy CV decides you're going to die, no matter what?
>have 40mil credits
>buy one T10 and two T8 ships
>fully kit them out
>left with 70k credits
>>166533560
>tfw 160 mil credits
statskun update when?
>>166533502
Sail closer to friendly cruisers in the hopes their AA will bring the planes down. USN and Russian cruisers have good AA in general, starting from T6.
Against torpedo bombers, turn into them as soon as they become visible. Keep adjusting so that your bow always points at the planes. Don't commit to a full turn until they're very close and on an obvious attack run. Drop your speed to make the turn tighter right when the torpedoes drop.
Against lone dive bombers, turn perpedicular to them, less chances of getting hit. Evading Torpedo bombers takes priority though.
Are the teams just getting dumber as time goes on or what
I'm starting to just not want to play anymore
>>166533747
I tried, but I was just too slow to keep dodging, and he dropped on both of my sides. This might've been the case of a good CV bullying a shitter, but I was basically funneled into constantly eating torps.
>>166534325
Sounds like you got cross dropped by a good player, shit happens. If you are having trouble with CVs now I suggest you never got to t7 and up when you meet 9 and above IJN CVs.
Planes are visible from 8km out and most AA starts hitting them at the 6km+ mark. If you are tier 3/4, don't expect to have AA as ships at that time literally had none except for Yubari. When you get to t5 and up you start getting more AA.
>>166534246
Most good players get to tier 10, and quit when they see the hackjob wargaming does making the game up there fun.
Some good players keep playing in the fun mid tiers.
Most players are stats don't matter :^) shitters.
>>166509554
bants aside, do DDs have really borked WTR like light tanks do in WoT with WN8?
>>166534816
Seems fucked to walk away now after I've dumped so much money into it.
I hate IJN CAs and don't give a fuck about chinks so I guess I'll just hibernate until Haifuri collab
>>166534842
Yeah, most DD players are very bad, so doing half decent in them actually skyrockets your WTR.
>>166534778
>tier 9 IJN
That's what it was. He just decided that my Bisco needed to die. My poor stock bisco.
>tfw no-one to div with
>>166535184
I know that feel all too well anon. All too well.
>>166535184
>>166535247
Why don't you two just div?
>>166535137
As a t8 BB you are probably used to lording over most ships. At t8 Bisko is great from what I've heard, but against t9 and t10 CVs you have to absolutely be more careful. They can and will absolutely dunk on you if you rush off on your own. I
There simply no way for you to out maneuver planes moving 10x your speed. Your own hope is shoot them down or be with a cruiser that panics them. Tier 9 and above CVs are relatively rare and t10 even more so, don't worry about it too much.
>>166535184
>>166535247
Why don't you two just ERP?
>>166535302
>As a t8 BB you are probably used to lording over most ships.
I wish I knew that feel. I've had it for three games and only my first one was top tier, these past two have been tier nine heavy matches.
I'm talking to a friend and we might host a 1v1 tournament on a Sunday.
What we're thinking
>tier 8
>DDs only
>maps with epicenter
First place is 5k doubloons and second place is 3k doubloons.
Would anyone be interested?
>game starts
>BB that spawned on your side turns 90 degrees towards the inside
>>166535416
You have my sympathy somewhat. At the same time BBs are blatantly overpowered, KM BBs much more so at t8 and above compared to their counterparts. If you are having that much trouble with planes though, just spec for AA with BFT/AFT and click on planes. You will be immune to t6/t8 if you just do basic manuevering.
With MAA you will bloody the nose of t9 CVs and t10s will still dunk on you.
>>166535491
>>tier 8
>>DDs only
Cool, a Benson contest.
Haifuri when?
Blahaj skins when?
>>166535747
>tfw no blahaj
>>166535587
>At the same time BBs are blatantly overpowered, KM BBs much more so at t8 and above compared to their counterparts.
You're going to have to explain this to me, because I'm new, and I'm still struggling with BB's. I get dunked in them more than I do with my CA's.
>>166535747
>a Kagero
>a Graf Spuh
>yet another fucking Bongo
>technically there were some Duckies, too
>well, there's at least the OTHER Akizuki-class DD :^)
>Sushi
Too bad the only things we can potentially hope to see are a Kagero and a Spee. M-maybe they'll give us the option of mounting 127mm or 100mm guns.Yes, Abrach, we all know the show was not very good.
>>166536039
>KM BBs get better long range AA than USN BBs
>KM BBs are unable to be citadel'd at close range
>Yamato tier secondaries at t8
>Hydro making up for any small weakness
>Decent speed
Meanwhile in a t8 cruiser
>Short range secondaries
>No repair party
>Able to be citadeled easily
>Shorter range main guns
>Has to trade Defensive fire for hydro
>Less armor
Yes they can burn you down over the span over 3-5 minutes. You on the other hand can delete them in a single salvo.
>>166536203
>The kagero gets a bonus when turning right and a damage bonus when ramming larger ships.
where do the points go
im a weeb
>>166536453
I mean, but those are the advantages BB's had were armor and guns. And I don't get how I could ever delete anything in one salvo unless we're super short range. I can maybe land one-two citadels on a long range target if its a BB.
I've just found the agility+smoke on my CA's to just fuck people up easier.
>>166536587
>a bonus when turning right
TORIKAJI > OMOKAJI, faggot.I can't help but think this picture looks really lewd.
>>166536747
>allies
>>166534842
You can't get 80k damage in an IJN DD unless the enemies are retarded or you do suicide rushes. Guns do pitiful damage with long reloads too.
>>166536698
For Jap CA's?
T1 Priority Target so you can know when to WASD
T2 Expert Marksman so your turrets turn sometime this century
T3 Demolition Expert for extra fires
T4 Concealment Expert so you can disengage
After that its up to personal preference.
>>166535302
Why are they rare?
Can we make a WoWsg rule of never diving with baBBies?
>>166536952
tfw just want to be a gunbote DD
>>166537721
Because only the most autistic players still play them at that tier.
The shitty gameplay drives everyone else off.
>>166537927
As long as it's a rule to never drive with CAsuals, baDDies or CVnts either.
>>166537967
Then play a gunbote DD? There's 3 full lines of them. Hell even ducky is fun if you can't stand not playing IJN ships.
>>166538025
What's left?
>>166537967
>tfw 200+ damage per shell
>comes to 1.2 - 1.3k per salvo if they all hit
Perfectly fine gunbote))))))))
>>166538071
Submarines
>>166538025
Everyone else is fine. BaBBies are the cancer ruining this game and should suffer for it.
>>166537927
Then what specific criteria do people have to meet to be classes as a baBBy?
>>166538135
WORLD OF SUBMARINES RELEASING JULY 2017
>>166538150
Are a majority of battles in battleship? Are a more than a 1/4th of the ships you play battleships?
>>166537927
can we make a WoWsg rule of never divving with aspies claiming Zao is the most useless cruiser and only playing CVs/good US DDs
>>166537927
>>166538025
>>166538141
>>166538223
>implying BBs aren't the weakest class
>>166538297
They're fucking OP. Anyone playing and doing badly in a BB is literally subhuman.
>>166538223
And if they're roughly 1/3rd BBs, CAs, and DDs? So more than 1/4th but less than the majority of battles.
>>166538412
Then you're a baBBie, tainted forever you shitter.
>>166538340
>t. CAsual
>>166538558
>i think being able to one salvo any other class in the game is fair, including my own class
Top meme's there friend.
>>166538601
>I think I should be able to sail broadside to any one shooting at me regardless of how big their guns are.
literal shitter.
>>166538663
Oh, and you tell me how battleships are remotely balanced in the current meta. Especially the KM battleships.
Nothing should be able to hurt a BB except for another BB.
>>166538719
Torpedoes :^)
>>166538784
Oh yes, because every baBBies hasn't already had their rudder time halved because of ;_; TORPEDOS ;_;
>>166538957
>Being this bad
Maybe you should stop blaming the baBBies and git gud
>>166539003
Maybe you should stop playing a fucking shitter starter class and get good.
>>166539003
People shouldn't be asked to dodge thing they couldn't see.
>>166539043
>implying I play battleships
Just because I'm calling you out for being shit doesn't mean I play the class you're analruptured about.
>>166539103
Then why do you argue for them. They're OP in every sense of the word.
>lunatic shitposting hour again
>>166539165
You can also farm literal free damage on them with fires, bully them with torpedos, annoy them with Divebombers and Torpedo bombers.
t. baDDy
Is wave dead?
>>166538071
Those 1 or 2 actually decent players you see per battle. The problem is you can't drive with them because they're on the enemy team.
>>166539232
No you can't because they'll delte you with one salvo, you baBBies.
>>166539315
Just gitlucky
call me when BBs can invis fire
until then kill yourself baDDies
>>166539239
he sold his account and stopped playing
>>166539389
Can't shoot what you can't see.
>>166539528
proofs?
several people changed their names but i don't think it's because they sold their accounts
>>166539458
it's not baDDies doing the shitposting
it's a certain SEA CAsual shitter who's only T10 is a Zao which he claims is in desperate need of a buff.
>>166539569
>he thinks invis fireworks.
>>166539638
Fuck off just because I have the Zao and Minoutar doesn't mean I'm luntic.
I just want BB's to be nerfed.
>>166539671
Sure it does, over islands, in smoke, hiding behind baBBies and bully the enemy baBBies
>>166539594
honestly I'm just repeating whatever shitpost there was from before that said it, I've got no clue.
unless someone has some proofs?? that they aren't showing us all we know is that he changed the account name, stopped showing up anywhere and hid his stats.
maybe he did sell it, maybe he just got bored and stopped playing, who knows. either way nothing of value was lost.
>>166539742
Yeah okay, call me back when you stop playing BB's baddie.
>>166540062
Wow that does it, I'm #AShMissle now!
>>166529160
It was the play with friends code that specifically says it works for existing accounts provided they've been away for at least three months and/or have yet to reach rank three.
>>166540129
Fuck off BB faggot.
>>166540861
>Being this mad about being bad in a Romanian fishing boat simulator on a mongolian carpet weaving board.
>>166539638
Honestly if I were given control of the dev team I'd be tempted to buff the ships that are already OP like Zao just for trolling purposes.
>>166541326
Remove carriers and make the rest of the game historically accurate
>>166541386
>Remove carriers
Spot the shitter
>>166541386
More like remove Battleships.
Duck for hire
>tfw you to better with the meme guns on the freddie than you did with the 406mm
What's the build for bong cruisers?
The Z-23, why?
You either have to take 4x128mm guns at tier 8 with German HE shell damage and fire chance(lol) or take guns that have a 10 kilometer range, and with the shortest smoke in the game if your target moves out of your range you're just going to be completely irrelevant. I'm having a hard time justifying this ship when the Benson and Akizuki exists. I guess I'll just try to make it to the Z-46 before the cheap respecs go away so I can go back to an AFT build that has more than 4 guns.
>enemy BB gets mad at you when you run in your BB from an unbalanced fight
>you sink him later in an equal fight
>"fucking coward shitter"
Sorry I'm not going to fight two bow on Iowa's in my Izumo.
>>166542236
>tfw no duck to eat my yogurt.
Hotel is a filthy slut and the village bicycle
Only the Kriegsmarine are beautiful and pure that will stay faithful to you
Has Kutuzov got the same ONE BLOB smoke issue as bong cruisers?
>>166543715
Are KM cruisers any good?
>>166543812
Everything KM is OPAF.
>>166543715
>You will never explode inside Eugen's stern.
>>166543715
>germancucks
>pure
Hace your (You)
>>166543742
No.
>>166543812
If you like HE shells that do nothing and AP shells that autobounce the moment the enemy ship isn't completely horitzontal
>>166543812
Graf Spee and Scharnhorst are the only highlights of the German cruiser line.
>>166541386
>Remove carriers
>historically accurate
Bitch, please.
>>166544345
I know right? Remove Battleships and the game would be much better.
>>166486667
I play this on my Hoteru, except for double fighter
pretty fun
>>166544386
Yep. Or make only 1 BB per team and about 5 CV per team.
>>166544509
I can imagine that BB having a "fun" time
>>166544509
It'd be better if they removed BB's fully. Game would ACTUALLY be balanced instead of one class being able to XDDDD oneshot other classes.
>>166544345
>Remove carriers
>and
>make the rest of the game historically accurate
There's a strange word between those two statements. Carriers are the antithesis to the kind of fleet battles this game wants to create. They killed it historically. Even submarines would have been more fitting.
>>166544552
>>historically accurate
>>166544589
Im not all about that historically accurate thing, sure its important but if gameplay suffers thats always a bad decision
>>166544552
So what. He can one shot 99% of the things on the enemy team. Who gives a shit what a subhuman thinks.
Finally had an okay game in New Orleans. Why do I suck so much with it? I did well in the Pensacola and it's not that different.
>>166544262
>Graf Spee
Rip missed my chance.
>>166544259
So the opposite of WoT
Time limited ships are tilting me hard
>>166544578
Submarines are shit in naval battles, because they were made NOT for naval battles. CV was actualy part of naval battles from creation of conception. Stop crying, CV are fine.
>>166544693
>t. broadside driving CAsual
If you got gud he wouldn't 1shot your zao shitter.
>>166544752
>implying BB's cant citpen cruisers bow on
How about you baBBies kys.
>>166544693
there wont be enough time for him to do anything useful, the cvs are craving for him so much, he will blow up in the first two minutes or so
>Zara in LSC
>>166544706
>it's not that different.
i think this is the problem, they aren't that much different and the progression isn't as comparable to other nations
>>166544773
BB's have cancer tier AA. BB's are basically immune to CV's you fucking shitter.
>>166544706
You get more "experienced" people in high tiers.
>>166544841
Why are you so mad? jesus christ its a video game and you're crying about BBs and baBBies and what else for months now.
>>166544841
>5 CVs
>>166544915
>i'm so blinded by the class I play I can't realize that a cancerous class is running the game
I bet you played artillery in WoT.
>>166544934
Your point? I'd rather CV's than BB's.
>>166544983
But baBBies is ACTUALY artillery from WoT,
>>166544983
you have autism please get help lunaticred
>>166545118
My point exactly. Artillery is pure cancer, BB's are pure cancer. They need to be removed.
>>166545142
>just because I'm sane enough to realize a class is OP I'm autistic
Fuck off.
>BB shitter cant accept the fact that CVs have more counter play than BBs which just point and delete
>>166545192
Fuck off Anu.
>>166545192
Are you expecting BB players to even be human? Silly you.
>>166545192
CV counterplay is RNG bubbles. Any decent CV can bait most ships through turns, so that's out. They're incredibly boring/frustrating to counter, doubly so if you try playing as a CV with an AS build. That's a big part of the problem. Not saying that BBs have a litany of weaknesses, but at least stealth is more reliable.
>>166545373
Thank you for making my point. BB's have no weaknesses.
>>166545234
*sees u broadside at 20km for 10 seconds*
Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru
*tips fedora with 3x citadels and a first blood*
>>166545181
>I-I'm the only sane one
Exactly what an insane man would say. Check yourself into a mental institution ASAP.
>baBBies on suicide watch
oh look lunatic is talking to himself again
CUTE!
>>166545887
>people who are sane enough to realize BB's are OP are all Lunaticred or Anu
Cute.
>Game is out for more than a Year
>People still cry about getting oneshotted while broadsiding
kek
>>166545989
>im a babbie
>>166546087
and?
>>166545989
>enemy doesnt broadside
>still remove him
Balanse))))
>>166546126
kys
http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/113589-destroyer-1v1-tournament-12917-430-pm-est/
Make sure to sign up.
>>166546221
Fuck off mako, your a twinky cocksucker and i'd beat you're fucking ass in irl.
>>166546087
>You have to be a baBBy to make fun of shitters who get deleted when broadsiding
This is a level of insecurity I've only ever seen on one other general, /gsg/.
>>166546459
kys
>>166546583
>t. I should be able to broadside against everything shitter
>>166546651
>what is crossing the T
>>166546651
Havent seen this much autism in a while
>>166546651
>i should be able to oneshot everything shitter
>>166546692
>The crossing the T meme
>>166546583
>>166546723
wrong pinned
>>166546732
Again, you're so insecure you assume everyone who argues with you is a baBBy, and they don't enjoy it just because you're a huge fucking faggot.
>>166546850
And again, you've yet to prove me wrong that BB's are horribly overpowered with no proper counter.
>>166546956
Well they do, its just been nerfed every patch.
SIGN UP FOR THE DD 1V1 TOURNAMENT
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>>166546956
Oh I already have, but every time I present facts, you plug your ears, so it's a pointless act at this point.
>Shards
>northern spawn
>"BC"
>"Affirmative!"
>half the team goes A
>gets obliterated
>>166546956
Against brawling bbs:
high speed torps
Sniping bbs:
IFHE
>>166547051
>>166546356
Is this a contest to determine the most elephant lady?
>>166547059
>>166547115
>torpedos
You have to be a brain dead idiot to get hit by torps
>cvs
Yeah, maybe once that ONE plane to drop the ONE torpedo gets though you might do a little bit of damage
>fire
To bad he's already oneshot you.
>>166524712
i damage saturated his bow. 6 hits on a already burning currywurst did less that 70k to him
>>166547306
>I did less than 3/4th's his hp
I'm sorry?
>>166547163
>LALALA I CANT HEAR YOU LALALA
kek
he keeps being a bitch and he doesn't realize it.
>>166547407
No you keep putting out fucking shitty points that anyone with half a brain realizes is a shitty work around to a horribly OP class.
>>166547163
>>You have to be a brain dead idiot to get hit by torps
More like
>You have to be a brain dead idiot to not hit a brawling BB with torps as a DD
>>166547407
you're arguing with the dude in this picture >>166524584
stahp.
>>166547587
>having an anime avatar
No anime is more subhuman than playing BB's.
Sorry I'm not a SEAmen.
>>166547689
Enough is enough you autist.
>>166547114
>any map
>“a&c guys“
This game needs scuttling
>>166547879
kys
Weebgenocide when?
>>166547114
>BC
>camps at C all game
>B was captured by the enemies
B and C yes?
>>166547379
how much do you think he did to me?
bow on zao cant really tank bb shells
a allied udaloi ended up setting him on fire and getting the kill
>>166548535
))) lets of make Zao torpedo do 100k max
))) of balans
>>166548587
i dont even mind damage. all i wanted was ~9.5km torps on zao. its all i need to invisitorp on iBuki
also this zaou shitposting is funny, it all boils down to ijn ca being special snowflakes
>>166548191
Last thread someone mention that on Trap it's actually a good idea to ignore B until the midgame, since those 2 islands are counterproductive for supporting melees.
>>166548340
As a BB I'd rather die pushing B (on Shards) and punishing greedy broadsided CAs than sail 5 minutes to C and another 5 to B. It motivates others more often than not.
You know, except for those "lol fuk u we go A" times.
>>166548587
>gyroscope
>100k damage per torps
>100% fire starter
>shells with 5000m/s
>20km radar with 10 minutes uptime
What else can we do to balanse the weakest cruiser?
>>166548702
>zaou
>>166548749
>replace fighter consumable with a single fighter squadron
>supercavity torps, noone will notice its torps only got 2x faster
>homing shells
>romulan shielding to complement the klingdom cloaking device
>its own fire deparment since fire is even worse on ca
>controllable secondary batteries, they are already in gane as akizuki's primaries
>shimakaze torp selection
>>166548896
>>166548950
Why not just turn it into a modern missile cruiser then?
>>166549091
10 missiles that instantly delete anything it touches? The last three enemies are shared between your team so they wouldn't feel so left out. :^)
>>166549091
not of historical accurate )))
only russia and American gets AShM consumable )))
>>166549154
actualy this would serve as a buff to BBs. most AShM cant pen BB broadside and most supercavity torps wont pen most BB TDS armor. their real target was cruisers, destroyers and submarines.
Playing again after not playing for a year. Time to ruin a few random teammate's games for a bit.
>>166549348
had a invite code?
>https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2017/01/24/wows-0-6-1-uss-black-updated-stats/
>Radar on a DD
>>166549375
It's a DD hunter. Look at the torp stats and you get that picture loud and clear.
>43 Knot Torps
WGing has a thing with DD's hunting other DD's. Clearly they don't like it when DD's hunt BB's and are trying to put enough toys in game to not only make this viable, but the preferred playstyle.
>>166549375
gotta P2W on DDs somehow
at least DDs wont be the suffering high tier CAs are.
>>166549375
>torp speed
lmao
>>166549375
>smoke and radar
nice looks balans ))))))))
ship it ))))))))))
>>166549217
It's going to be either mines, which they've said in the past they want to add, or, equally likely, homing acoustic torpedoes.
>>166549367
Will it work with an old preexisting account?
>>166549454
I thought Cruisers were suppose to hunt DDs? But then the Cruiser gets spotted and removed by the BBs on the map since as soon as a Cruiser is spotted every BB no matter the distance will shoot at you.
>>166549560
afaik of you were not active in 3 months, yes
>>166485993
>>166549520
with 40kn torps we might already have mines in game
>>166549565
Cruisers are *in Wargammings mind* (READ: Not reality) supposed to be brittle battleships. The evidence for this is how they handled paperships. All the real CA's handle pretty poorly, while the paper CA' are at some tiers that most Overpowered boats in the game. CA's are supposed to bully BB's with HE and fire and just waste them down, while being neigh immortal to CV's. Now in practice this doesn't work since the non-paper ships don't have those abilities and BB's driven by anyone but a drooling retard can counter this playstyle in most cases, which is why CA's don't have a defined place as of yet. Again, this is what WGing clearly wants, not reflective of real life or even logical roles, nor how they end up being used. The same regard is given to DD's who clearly, WGing wants shooting at other DD's exclusively. Whether players DO that or not is another story, and I think that's why they keep adding toys to DD's that are supposed to discourage attacking BB's/CA's and encourage hunting each other.
>>166549565
i can count on my fingers the cruisers that have good guns to hunt DDs, and if i make it a requirement to have radar to do their job right, ill end up with buyfast only. maybe.
>>166549651
:^) There, what do you get goyim?
Who is this 'lunatic' I keep seeing in these threads?
t. lurker
>>166549737
They said months and months ago they were trying to find a way to make mines work, it was TK's that were the biggest hurdle. Gut says they will either just make them cause 0 team damage or make them so fuckhuge on the overlay so that you'd more or less HAVE to drive into them on purpose. Also gut says they will DD exclusive, and replace torps, which means it would be DOA in most cases.
>>166549847
a port slut and about 3m dosh. i needed the dosh.
enjoy the 2 premium ships, thanks.
>>166549861
That's silly, I think (certain) ships of all sizes have been able to lay mines.
>>166549906
Thanks to you too goy! Wannahold hands?
>>166549921
just like how mutsu will have torps i expect quite a few cruisers to show up with mines
>>166549861
you sure it wasnt a KTKM issue? players purposefully torped allies with that ship.
and by players i mean supertesters
>>166549921
Na. While I like the idea of mines in most cases they would be worthless. The reality is seldom does one team actually take the ground (sea) that the other side had. Usually they meet in the middle, one folds and the other chases them down without actually entering many areas the enemy held (far flanking runs, sniping at range ect.) and thus I think, baring the initial growing pains, mines would be more or less useless, especially if it came at the expense of other weapons/consumables. Thus it makes the most sense to give it to DD's exclusively as it 'appears' that WGing is throwing DD's a bone, but in reality they are getting nothing of actual consquence.
>about to unlock Amagi today
What am I in for, /wowsg/?
>>166549294
But they will pen the battleship for game balanse))))))))))
>>166549852
sea shitposter that hates NA
>>166550043
I wouldnt call mines worthless overall, but they'd be disproportionately powerful on specific maps in specific modes and completely useless in others.
>>166550052
a nagato with 25% more nagato
>>166550043
corridors would be shut down by that, and corners would be mined to prevent island from falling to the enemy.
it might stop carrousels on 2brothers and absolute collapse of cap points
>>166550052
Super-Kongou. Quite literally.
>only one other person on SEA
Are we finally ded?
>>166550224
>4x2
>inaccurate
>shit armor
>awful pen
Quite literally?
>>166550041
Contrary to what the Devs say in Q/A there are other issues with the KTKM that make it impossible to release.
1) They don't like torp walls. This is why the Shim got a severe nerf and no DD's released since have anything approaching that output.
2) There were server stability issues with torp walls in general and the KTKM was emblematic of this. Many things are handled server side, like torps, and there were noticable stability issues with that many torps out at the same time. Simply put, if four KTKMs were in a match, there would be latency issues for EVERYONE, which is something Wargamming prides itself on avoiding at all costs. And, admittedly, this is one of the most lag free games I've ever played, despite so much being calculated server side.
3) PTW accusations. While they certainty have examples of PTW, they do genuinely like to avoid it. It is VERY easy to see how the KTKM would end up as a PTW boat as yes, it would be to a degree difficult to do well in, but once someone would get the swing of it, it would potentially be a game changer. And the evidence for this is the sheer furvor over it. What you guys don't get is that all the clamoring for it, begging, and desire for it, actually works AGAINST it, as the Devs see that and think, "Oh shit, it IS actually that overpowered, that's why they want it so much."
In short, they are NEVER going to release it, they have said as much a number of times. Even as a clan reward or ranked reward it will likely never be released in any capacity, as it has too many potential pitfalls that Wargamming has, with this and other boats, taken a strong stance against. Put another way, you are FAR more likely to get BBCV/CACV's in the game LONG before the KTKM.
>>166550269
No but the same playstyle. Fast and agile but can be penned easily. Can dart around fast. Dispersion should be alright.
>>166550248
yes
>>166550194
>corridors would be shut down by that, and corners would be mined to prevent island from falling to the enemy.
>it might stop carrousels on 2brothers and absolute collapse of cap points
They could, but I think after the initial "WTF was that that killed me" period and people learn that mines exist, they will be largely ineffective. Mines are pretty easy to counter: never go in the exact spots the enemy has. Sighting mechanics in game make it pretty easy to sus that out. Pretty much the only thing it will do is stop the carrousels but then people just fall back on the old hide in the back and snipe routine.
>>166550362
Good god.
>>166550447mako IRL
>>166550307
>They don't like Torpwalls
Ring Ring? Yes hello, this is bullshit calling.
>What is Shiratsuyu for 10000 credits, shitter?
>>166550248
yes
time to leave for NA like the rest of you
>>166550462
>Shiratsuyu
It puts out 8 torps at about 1:20... to 8km? How is that a torp wall? Or rather, how is that any more of a torp wall than any other DD in the game? How in any way does that compare to the KTKM which puts out 40 in the same time frame?
And they DO hate torpwalls. Go read really any Q/A, as someone ALWAYS asks about IJN DD nerfs, and it becomes PAINFULLY clear they don't like it when DD's release walls of torps at long range.
I'm not saying I agree with them, or that they are correct, but that is how *they* feel. And right or wrong, they control the direction the game goes and the evidence is CLEARLY against DD's that rely on torp damage.
>>166550248
Welcome to the Yurop club tovarish ))))))
>>166550624
Shiratsuyu has the ability that lets it spam 16 torps with near instantly reloading torp launchers.
The whole dd split was a clusterfuck.
>friend of mine complains about BB accuracy all the time
>starts playing german BBs
should i warn him or enjoy his rage?
>>166550676
That's still less than HALF the KTKM.
Look I get you really want it. I appreciate that, but they won't add it back in. At some point you're gona have to come to live with that. The DEVS don't want it in the game.
>>166550709
Who cares about accuracy when you can go full meme mode at T8
>>166550741
he will never make it there :^)
>>166549515
it worked for belfast comrade)))
>>166550709
German BB accuracy isnt bad except for the bismarck. The nassau and kaiser feel more accurate than their counterparts, and the konig is definitely more accurate than the new york. The bayern feels middling but it's also at a gun disadvantage to the fuso and new mexico.
>>166550735
Bless the devs. Fuck the KTKM, I never want to see that piece of shit in my games ever again. A Kuma at T8 that shit out torps everywhere was a terrible idea.
>>166550735
And why not? Dont let her have narrow spread and couple it with Shimakazes terrible torpedos. Reduce the torp range to something abysmal like 12km and call it a day.
>>166550845
Well alot of players want it. They start threads on the forums regularly begging for it. What they don't realize is how badly this works against it. If they made it a no big deal and stopped asking for it, or treated it like a funny thing in the background with a passing interest, WGing might be motivated to find a way to integrate it, but as it stands, people CONSTANTLY begging for it just turns them off immediately to the whole idea. And since most people are too stupid to realize this, they will keep asking for it, and boom, it never ever gets released.
>>166550361
>Amagi can be penned easily
>claims Kongo has good accuracy
Should I buy the premium camo for the Ognevoi before they do the switch? Will I get to keep it?
>>166551113
Ognevoi is a suffering destroyer
>>166550897
>And why not? Dont let her have narrow spread and couple it with Shimakazes terrible torpedos. Reduce the torp range to something abysmal like 12km and call it a day.
Because they don't. And you can't seem to wrap your head around it. I'm gona make an analogy you won't like or add additional meaning onto that's unintended, but here it goes: No means no. They're not gona change their mind, anymore than *you* are gona change your mind. They don't want it in the game. It's a balancing nightmare, easy griefing system, causes server stability issues, cause service costs to skyrocket (torps at T8 are what? 5k silver each?) which is something players take umbridge with, and, overall, the Devs don't like torp dependent damage.
ALL of that is aside that Battleships are very much the 'favorite' class of both the players and the devs, and the KTKM has BB's squarely in their sights. Shitters, BBabys, whatever you want to call them make up the VAST majority of the playerbase (consistently the most played classes in the game) and things that are squarely designed to counter them works against Wargamming as a BUSINESS. Pun intended, the KTKM can torpedo that business strategy and the higher ups on the dev team won't allow that to come to pass.
Put another way, the KTKM won't be released till the devs are planning the server shut down.
>>166551141
I seem to do ok with it. If you play it like a smoke machine with a cannon or hunt DDs you can pull some ok games.
>>166551183
I just remember playing it before the turret destruction change.
EVERY game I played with one turret because the first hit I took one of my turrets would be knocked out.
>>166551113
Kiev is a better choice.
>>166551279
I just turbo-grinded to the kiev in the last 3 days so I've not had to experience that but it doesn't sound like fun at all.
>>166551164
And thats exactly why the game will eventually die because they pander to none other than baBBies. Look at the past patches. Every other class keeps getting battered with the nerfbat. CAs, DDs and CVs are all suffering because baBBies are the crux of it all. WG can't wrap their head around why anyone wouldn't want to play these huge, cumbersome beasts. They don't understand why anyone would want to play nimble high risk high reward ships like DDs, balanced for both CAs or even RTS-styled ships like CVs. They should just remove the other classes as they're clearly a nuisance to their beloved baBBies.
>>166550419
you mean like torpedoes?
baBBies will still sail into them like always
and stopping people from going places should be sufficient to prevent thise places from being used as cover by the enemy
>>166550000
fuck me I knew I shouldn't have just updated the old beta client. Server shits all changed now and I've gotta be a fucking physician to change the server without re-downloading the whole damn game.
>>166551412
This.
I used to be a destroyer player, but gave it up since its clear wargaming either doesnt care or doesnt have a clue.
I started the game wanting to drive carriers but fuck that since they never bothered to fix the economy for them. I have fun with cruisers but it feels like I have to do 10 times the work to accomplish the same end goal as a battleship.
>>166550835
bayern a shit. german bbs are okay but gneisau, where they rely on rof to hit instead of # of barrels like most bbs.
>>166551412
Here's another thing many players don't get:
All games die eventually. Yeah I know people still play quake, and there is still people making mods for DOOM, but by and large, especially modern MP only games, will die eventually. That's built in to the business model. I'd wager they MARCS depreciate both the property title and the servers themselves. That's how this works, so with that in mind the strategy is to make the most money as fast as you can, before the value goes so far down that the returns don't exceed the costs and you shut the game down. That, in general, means appealing to the masses. And with niche titles, this is even worse, because you're already starting from a limited player base (i.e. customer base). See COD can get away with changing emphasis or making a broader game in regard to viable playstyles, because they have SUCH as huge playerbase they can get away with that. But these tank/warship games have comparatively small playerbases, which means if you aim for broad, you end up missing huge swaths of your playerbase. That doesn't work short or long term. Thus, you have to figure out where the majority sit, and that's clearly in the BB's favor, and tool the game to be as appealing to them as possible.
It's business, not a charity. Wargamming is not your friend, regardless of what 'class' you like. They exist and work towards one goal: separating the most number of people from their money. And given the way THIS niche works, that means pandering to the most played classes, in this case BB's,
Now if you're too stupid to SEE that, or worse, see it an think you can in any way work against it, well you deserve the frustration you get. You vote with your wallet in this world and if you keep buying premiums, even of the boats you like, when they clearly work against YOUR playstyle, you are saying Loud and clear, "Please keep fucking me."
>>166551676
Tbh I've gone from a BB player to a DD player because I enjoy them more than ever now. Even this last patch felt like it made them more fun for me, pretty much across the board. Maybe it's just because I never bothered with the IJN DDs, and always just stuck with the useful lines.
>>166551412
i was looking foward ijn split. im a professional poi~ster and i was also looking foward to memekaze
then the numbers got real and i closed my loss at fujin. then germans and 2 nerfs, including one right as it went live.
surely russian cold war dds will be good. right?
and theres a CV rework coming. and mines. and maybe more handholding for CA and CV, thi this will surely benefit BBs as well.
>>166551734
>All games die eventually.
Let me tell you why this is bullshit. Look at games like Dota 2 or Teamfortress 2 or hell, even World of Warcraft - Games that have been running for so long, it's amazing that they're still around - and they're still making money off of it. Even their own game - World of Tanks - is still around and that shits old as fuck already.
What you are is the typical american business man. Pander to many as quickly as possible, reap as many profits as possible, let the product deprecate and start anew. It's a cancerous method. And yes, companies and developers can both be benevolvent and don't have to be EA/Ubisoft tier.
It's that shortsightedness that keeps the potential for a really good game locked away deeply out of sheer stupidty, greed and probably inability to do anything right.
>>166552005
hell brood war just had a tournament in korea with 200k+ watching the finals.
>>166551734
i played mmos for the longest time. might sound terrible but the social structure and new content realy kept them alive until the publisher decided money was more important that playerbase health.
>>166551935
Ijn dd split was a hackjob and never should have gone tbrough unless they were also prepared to throw the shitty gun peculiarity aside at least for the gunbote line. As it is you have torpedo botes with shitty concealment and torpedo botes with good concealment and a duck.
>>166552038
>tfw sc2 died before broodwar
>>166552053
i can't even switch. im a blue on fujin, ibuki redefined my stats to light blue, i cannot into CVs to make missions not even to save my life and im a tomato to BBs, even if i have fun with it.
this game kinda isnt for me.
>>166552005
World of Warcraft is an outlyier but even it is showing it's age as far as profits are concerned, but you show a gross lack of understand how all, be it JRPG dev, Eastern Europe devs, all DEVS work, and that's that, with few exception, all games require this thing called investors. And investors, DON'T GIVE A SHIT about games. Servers cost money. Programmers cost money. ADVERTISERS cost SHIT tons of money. Game sales, in the strictest sense, can't cover that when it needs to be covered. As such, essentially ALL game development is paid for by investors who have one single interest: ROI. Now what % ROI you want depends on the title and what investors you seek to court, but the ROI is the ruling factor. (And btw I'm an engineer, not a business guy, which is why I understand this in the practical sense, not the torn up, or torn down, version). Once a game starts to have diminishing returns, and the ROI essentially goes to sub 5%, investors leave. That alone doesn't kill a game, but it does mean the Developer itself must cover it's own cost of operation in order to facilitate continued life. When that takes place devs can go in 1 of two directions: 1) Go for broke and try to make the game the CURRENT largest group of fans want, which is how say, TF2 works, 2) Try to change direction to make appeal to herthrow non-players to bring in a new player base that will prop up a game long term.
Which sounds like what WGing would do? DD's are NOT going to get love, and in all likelihood, giving them love would likely kill the game FASTER than simply catering to BB players. If you don't get that, then you need to learn something about consumer demand.
Is Premium camo worth it for Bismarck?
>>166552730
No.
>>166552730
do you plan on biscuit for the rest of your life?
>>166552038
> that one time in wich blizz got BW players free sc2 games and they 420blazeit to diamonds
it was amazing
>>166552508
And this is exactly where is shows that you're nothing but an american business man, a soulless fucking automaton calling himself an "engineer". A fucking suit who sees nothing but short-term profits and not the long-term benefits. I'm not even romanticizing business. It's dirty, corrupt and sometimes borderline retarded. You're even going so far as to replicate what I just said.
And your examples are laughable as well. TF2 didn't just pander to the current fans, it went free to play to reinvigorate it's playerbase, introduced a massive cash-shop and countless other moneysinks people who enjoy a game will more likey spend. And here comes your short-sightedness in play again: Why would anyone, aside from a few outliers, spend money on a game they hate or that are painfully pay2win. The Asian market might be different when it comes to tolerance of P2W, but both EU and NA are very adamant about P2W games. Examples of that are for example ArchAge, Planetside 2 and similar games. World of Warcraft is an outlier? Then there must be quite a few outliers. DotA was basically a Warcraft 3 mod that got ported to a modern engine. It's not a new game, it's free to play and there are absolutely no pay to win elements, only cosmetics (same for TF2 by the way) and I'm gonna use my clairvoyance and will tell you it'll keep going for another 7-8 years at least. Oh and funny enough, the biggest playerbase is still russian.
When you as a developer make a good game that people enjoy, that everyone can enjoy equally and your market will grow because you made a very specific game, you'll enjoy the benefits. Players will laudate you, will spread the word of your game and many will spend happily a lot of fucking money while praising your name. Now compare that to your tactic and tell me again what will generate more money, a good reputation and the trust of your playerbase to test out your other ventures, purely based on your name as a developer.
>>166551676
That's weird. I've been enjoying DDs quite a lot in the past 6 months. The thing DD players can't seem to wrap their heads around is that wargaming doesn't like the stealth asassin role, so that's what has been made harder every patch.
And that's fine for me. DD play in my opinion is all about cap control, fighting enemy DDs so they can't assert control over caps themselves, and then switching to firestarting with the occasional torp run, and stalking enemy BBs around islands.
>>166553210
and thus nothing counters BBs
>>166552787
Somewhat. I'm not really interested in the KM BB line beyond Bismarck and I play her for fun so I'm wondering if the premium camo eases the financial burden enough to make her turn a profit reliably.
>>166553325
Mobility does.
>>166553376
of you have premium you wont need it, it isnt as great as it
frida the great is a pretty good flat upgrade to biscuit. you might consider it after some time, it might keep the german hydro i think
>>166553210
Yeah this is pretty much why I love the role so much. I don't care about not ever getting seen, I'm here to play around caps and knife fight things to death, as well as help out my divmates and stuff by doing things like giving them my smokes and lighting up targets for them. It's why I just don't bother with any of the IJN DDs outside of ducky, which is a bote I've been having a lot of fun with since I got her, and these days my US DDs are probably my most played line, which is a change from the massive baBBy I used to be.
I just keep having more and more fun with them too as time goes on, I'm really not sure why people keep complaining that DDs are more and more dead with every patch unless all they do is try to be nothing but a stealth torpedo boat.
This isn't snoozing_mako.
>>166553497
kraut dds cant do anything right, russian dds play too much like a cl, only usn held its own against the current changes. ijn had has their specialty stealth torp, their turrets are ruined because of it. the nerf it got made any kind of role on ijn dds horrible to be attempted with very few exceptions.
oh god ranked will be t7
https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/pt061/
>>166553703
>russian dds play too much like a cl
I don't see the issue desu.
>>166553839
>Inventory
Holy fucking shit about damn time.
>>166550624
Actually, it's 16 torps at 62 knots (IIRC) to 10km.
It shuts down caps real nice.
>>166553839
Fuck ranked. I like it more whenever there isn't a ranked season going at all.
>>166553839
>new upgrade slot where the upgrades are in supercontainers
ok fuck off
>>166553890
well.
when playing DDs.
id like to have a DD gameplay.
>>166553839
M-maybe I won't get as mad playing Ichiban in Ranked as I did playing Nagamon. Right? It can only get better!
>>166553987
I hope this part gets canned.
>>166553839
poi poi poi
>>166554056
>Playing IJN DDs in (semi-)competitive enviroment
Please don't.
>>166553839
are you ready for a legion of shitters in arp power ranger myokos?
>>166554206
Southern dragon soon
EU PT client started a 822 mb update just now.
>>166554206
>Scharnhorst in ranked
yes I am
>>166554056
That's a terrible idea.
>>166553839
black confirmed 5th season reward
Getting higher and higher in the tiers, I see more and more maps having less obstacles.
>Neighbors: Always a DD knife fight on C for the first 5 minutes and sniping for devstrikes everywhere else
>Two Brothers: Either lemming train or 2 seperate matches on either side, playing cat and mouse (not to mention retard filter in the middle)
>Land of Fire: Here's some islands... for Atlantas onlylol enjoy burning for 20 minutes
>Trap: You can tell the rating of your baBBies by the relationship they have with the islands on B
>Mountain Range: Nice """"islands"""" WG
>Ocean: M-Muh realism
No wonder there are so many brawls on low tier, the maps allow for it without getting raped from 10 angles.
And that is from the perspective of all classes. Nothing more satisfying than flanking a retard in close range and having their ass handed back to them.
Opinions are welcome.
>>166543715
>implying KM is pure
This slut alone has been sticking her ass out for decades, and has taken literally thousands of dicks inside it.
>>166553839
>T7
Why would you do that? T8 is a much better tier.
>Yorck and Pensacola instead of Hipper and New Orleans
>>166554343
all ranked and clan matches should be done on the most realistic map of them all
ocean
and the game mode will always be epicenter
>>166554484
>buyfast
>shinyhorse
>sims
gee
i wonder why
>>166554389
>>166554583
You forget
Siemawyska
Also, you're bound to get idiots trying to run:
Indianapolis
Atlanta
One of the thousand Myoko clones
>t7 ranked
Gonna see only belfasts, sims and shinyhorses.
>>166554745
atlanta might work depending on map
>>166554840
lmao just bring in flint
>>166553839
>Ranked with T7s
>ally team comprises of AS Ranger, two stock Colorados, a sub 50wr power ranger myoko, Pensacola and 2 Akatsukis
>meanwhile enemy team gets fully trained Saipan, 2 Scharnhorsts, 2 Belfasts amd 2 Sims
are u lads ready
>>166554163
I will and you can't stop me.
>>166554943
>flint division on ranked
this is the utmost salt inducer there can be this season
>>166553839
>Smoke Generator 1 Modernization
>Increases the consumable’s operation time by 30%; reduces the lifetime of smokes by 12%
>Destroyers and cruisers with smoke, tiers VI-X
Is this for Perth only?
>>166554163
Actually, the last time T7 ranked was around, some people played fucking CE Mutsuki to great effect. And just like Mutsucky, Ichiban has the best concealment of any DD in its tier, which is important when the battle format is Domination like all Ranked matches are.
>>166554206
Reminder that Mogamin's #1 Fan got to rank 1 playing ARP Myoko.
Jesus...
>>166555179
>Italy
>Winning anything
Fake history.
>>166554992
So where are you in this lineup?
>>166555490power ranger myoko, of course
>announce I will lay smoke for bullied ally
>lay smoke
>he runs out
>dies
Yeah, now I'm just gonna ask and if they don't answer then their tunnel visioned asses deserve to get raped.
>>166555162
>Figure out your battle tactic on old proven maps in the Epicentre mode
this gon be gud
today i'm cursed with retards
>>166555379
But they won the first world war :^)
>>166556165
Both World Wars, actually.
>>166556165
>Bail out on the Central Powers in WWI, accomplish nothing and bail out in WWII
Never trust an Italian.
>>166554343
>not to mention retard filter in the middle)
Was top of the team after I went through. Capped, deleted a cruiser and almost deleted a dd. Don't try this if you are not top 5% tho.
>>166556682
gott stafe england und das treulose italien
>>166548191
>He doesnt disable chat
Youre the one needing scuttling.
>>166545118
>But baBBies is ACTUALY artillery from WoT,
10 out of 10 CV's disagree.
>>166557242
t. Scrublord
>>166556682
The bailout was before the war even started, nice false analogy.
>Turbospammer shitting up the thread with fantasies about super OP BB's every 6th post.
fy mods, I'm out.
Any idea when the next sale would be?
Some historical days or something?Gotta jew out those shekel conversions.
>>166557476
help me shit up /wtg/ while you are at it
>>166557476
watch out or he might call you a baBBy
>>166555490
Pensacola.
Until R15, and fuck that after
>>166555003
you will literally begin losing
>>166555162
>Actually, the last time T7 ranked was around, some people played fucking CE Mutsuki to great effect.
Wait how did they get into T7 ranked with a T6?
Kiev for fun
>We don't want to promote invisible open water firing, and decided to exclude this option from new line. Actually, it is likely to be excluded from the whole game pretty soon. As for line pefrormance...low tiers are good. T-22 is a candidate for buff. High tiers: to be determined later, not enough data yet.
Zaos on suicide watch.
>>166558234
im on my phone and i dont have a laughing dragons picture
>>166558353
noice
>>166558403
I never played ranked, but as far as I knew you couldn't div to get in there and I would have thought you'd only be able to queue up for T7 in a T7.
>>166558373
yes im a zaou player and i expected this
tbqh invisifire should be always spotted but with a dispersion nerf to return fire
>>166553839
oh and its epicenter mode in case u guys didnt read.
>>166558520
>zaou
>u
FUCK
OFF
SEAMONKEYS
>>166558520
>zaou
>>166558489
back then the ships were in different tiers
>>166558654
Yes I'm well aware of the tier change, but the Mutsuki was never T7.
>>166558747
season was also in other tiers.
>>166558747
ranked used to have 2 tiers per league think.
>>166558587
was it autism?
>log in
Neat, something to show that I spent some of my shekels on other people
>>166555162
>Actually, the last time T7 ranked was around, some people played fucking CE Mutsuki to great effect.
The issue is that at that time 90% of the opposition could be expected NOT to have CE, so Mutsuki's detection advantage was substantial. Now most players will almost certainly have CE thanks to the crew rework, which substantially reduces the advantage of having CE in most cases.
when a literal god speaks, do you listen?
>>166560350
>Nagato
>Leningrad
>top tier
Based.
>>166560350
>Maass is just no.
>>166560583
kraut dds were gonna be real contestants to usn dd superiority
but no, they have to suck
>>166560583
Leberecht Trash more like it.
>>166560350
>myokospam advice
NO FLAMU NO
>>166560350
>5/7 of top tier are premiums
*autistic zaou player screeching over the horizon*
>>166560885
>zaou
>>166560350
would gnasal with secondary build work? its what im plannin on using.
should i take HEAP?
>>166560350
>saipan top tier
hahahahaha "no"
>>166560350
>Nagato
someone redpill on this ship, is it a secondary build?
>>166561071
it has excellent anti dd DB and with a 15 pt capt it does the job of powercreeping ijn cvs
>>166561025
Don't take HEAP, would help against nothing since your HE can pen everything in T7 anyway.
>>166561124
ur literally fucking retarded.
>>166561094
>inclined citadel armor
>tender rapist
>fast BB
>workable AAA
>excellent pen
tactically negator is better that colorado because colorado can just be kited.
>>166561194
it would be for my secondaries. i guess ill check later when the skill is fixed
>>166561383
Gneisenaus secondaries pen 1/4 of their caliber.
That means the 128mm guns pen 32mm.
>>166561792
Its only 31mm according to that datamined list
>happy that ranked is t7
>remember Belfast is in the game
>WG announces that ranked is Tier 7 right after discounts for all T7 classes sans cvs
>>166560350
>Literal god thinks brawling is a thing
pfffhahaha
How to skill myoko
>>166564149
2plons
fast turrets
???
CE
>>166564149
like just about any other cruiser you half wit
>>166564272
1 Went with
PT
EM
Vigilance
CE
>>166564149
ppl noticing u
turret lube
fire chance
concealment
>>166539458
Ring ring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxAH9WfTQB8
>>166548950
Everyone else will notice if Zao's torps get that fast.
>>166551113
>Asking questions that were answered by the IJN DD split
>>166553987
>new upgrade slot
Learn to read you double nigger
>>166555059
>Shitposting
I don't have an American ship for the lunar event, what's the best premium on the store right now? I wanted Atlanta but they don't sell it anymore
>>166565224
Sims if you want an American. It'll be useful in the coming ranked season too goy,
vigilance is great. I dont know why people ever not take it on cruisers. Honestly I almost want to take it on BB as well but usually if I didn't guess beforehand where the torpedoes were I still can't react in time so there's rarely a point
>>166565398
Ok. Is sims fun? I've only played dd up to that tier 5 jap one and I haven't really enjoyed how shit at torps I am
Is Indianapolis any good/fun?
>>166565546
>how shit at torps I am
how hard is it to line up a couple of things
>All those modules I bought over the past year on all those fucking ships that I'm finally getting back
>>166565546
Sims is fun. Decently fast, quick rudder AND has the tightest turning radius in game.
>I haven't really enjoyed how shit at torps I am
Then the Sims, or really the entire USN DD line, is for you. You're not supposed to depend on torps. Your job is to take caps and gun down enemy DDs.
And when there are no enemy DDs left or caps to take, you gun down CAs and BBs for general HE damage and fires. While not a great firestarter, the damage does accumulate, and you can invisifire at around 10km, shoot behind islands with the high arc shells, or just abuse the long-duration USN smoke.
The torps are awful with very slow speed and low damage, but with relatively fast reload. You use them to help deny caps, into conspicuous smoke clouds and agains dumb BBs sailing in straight lines; but by all means they are not your main source of damage.
>>166566364
only if you own the ship tho
WG automatically sells the modules when you sell the ship
>>166566784
Oh
Well at least ive got a lot of ships
How do I skill my Nagato?
>>166569127
By not playing a shitty class.
>>166569127
2plon
EM
SI
FP AFT CE
>>166569127
DCCA, EM, SI, CE
Then you can go secondaries (AFT, MCSA, PM) or survivability (FP, HA, JoaT, PM)
>belfast at t5
>get harassed and am unable to shoot back
>he gets 7 kills beating the shit out of t5 cruisers and dds
fair, fun, and most of all balanced.
>>166571525
>implying that isn't balansed
>>166571525
buy before ranked starts!
>>166571653
yeah its about as balanced as a nikolai against t3s
>>166571525
plese gibe IGN for ""reward""))
>>166571878
MOA_WINGS
don't bully me
Ranked at T7 with epicenter.
Need a ranking for best ships.
Belfast with smoke/hydro/radar has to be beast.
Would you take Saipan?
>>166566601
>the torps are awful
They are so awful, they ended up being kinda good. I say that because of their horrible speed and long range, they stay in the water for an eternity. They are the closest things we have in game to sea mines. You will get hits with these things but its going to be against things you wernt actually trying to hit.
>>166573505
Sims, Mahan, maybe Shiratsuyu
Nagato, Scharnhorst, maybe Gneisenau
Belfast, maybe Myoko
Saipan, maybe Hiryu
But I'm sure there's some sort of in-depth analysis with stats and statistics by some turbonerds on reddit or some e-famous youtuber or streamer that will tell you the exact same thing with ten minutes of look-at-my-cool-gaming-skillz in the background.
Are there any must-have mods or stuff like this?
havent played in months
does everyone still use aim assist?
>>166575792
>DDs
Sims, Blyska, Leningrad are the best, Mahan is OK for poorfags and Shiratsuyuu is more situational.
>BBs
Nagato and Scharnhorst. Gneisenau hasn't got the number of guns, accuracy or ROF to deal with DDs effectively.
>CA/CL
Flint/Belfast are the best, Fiji/Myoko are good though
>>166575997
Ship class on minimap.
Historical flags for Japan and Germany.
I don't even remember if you can make the standard minimap transparent or not, but if you can't then a mod that allows you to do this.
Everything else falls under 'nice to have, but not essential'.
Just grab Aslain's modpack and see what you like.
>>166576275
No.
>>166575997
I would say the mod that shows the ships names on the minimap.
>>166576275
No. The only available aim assists now come from polack sites and using an aim assist is a bannable offense on all servers.
>>166576549
Unless you are a supertester on EU.
>>166576428
>Blyska, Leningrad
>Flint
Welp, I forgot those.
Also, Atlanta.
but as
>>166576086
pointed out, there is already teh e-celeb version of this, so why bother thinking for ourselves now?
>>166576670
You see comrade, supertester is more equal than normal players.
Now go to camps for questioning decision of WGEU.
>>166576428
my choices are now moeoko or gnasal
i really wanna make a secondary build work on gnasal
I just lost 16 times in a row
AMA
Jap/Cruiser btw
>>166576973
>secondary build work on gnasal
Secondary Mod 2, AFT, Manual Secondaries, MY6
7.3 km circle of fuck you around your ship.
Unfortunately, this will only really work with smoke, and good luck nor getting torped to death long before getting close.
>>166577236
how close were you to your enemies
did you considered that cruisers work like TD instead of medium tanks?
>>166577347
7.6km max.
>>166577347
this means no accurancy mod on gneisau and i learned that thats terrible.
there i go back to moeoko again.
>>166577430
>match starts
>20 seconds later already 3 of us ded
>get detected once
>enemy always has like 100% accuracy and ALWAYS goes for the naste citadel hits, taken AT LEAST 40% of my hp
sometimes its ....idk
>Be Aoba
>deal MAYBE 1.2k each hit if im lucky
>every enemy thats not a torpboat hits me for like 3-6k
hmmmmmm
>>166577812
you suffer from cruiseritis and noobleism
it is fatal. i am sorry.
>Choices for upcoming Ranked season:
>Poi (stock), 12 pt
>Cartoon Myoko, 11 pt
>Rapist, 10 pt
>Mahan, 17 pt (after transfer from Benson)
>Lolorado, 10 pt
>Leninblyat, 12 pt (or 16 pt Udaloi captain)
>Yorck, 14 pt
>Scharnhorst, 15 pt
>Buyfast, 15 pt
WG why you make me so confus? ;_;
>>166578043
>dealing 1.2k a hit with IJN HE
you might be garbo
>>166578043
>hatin on the better furrytaco
why is the thread filled with CAsuals as of late
Is there anyone from RU?
>>166576504
>Historical Flags
This. Who at wargaming thought that giving WWI and Weimar Ära Ships a censored Nazi flag is ok? Two more flags wouldn't be so hard would they?
>>166579582
It's not like it's impossible as the Russians have 2 flags, early tiers imperial Russian navy flag, and after that VMF flag.
>>166579539
An obnoxious newfag playing on EU and maybe another one on RU.
Community is mostly NA.
>>166579582
Muh political correctness.
Muh history is written by victors.
Muh history of the opponents must be deleted.
>>166579582
There are a lot of mods which do that.
Since WG has a habit of messing with the file containing flags every patch, you'll have to update it frequently.
>>166579539
I am.
>I fell for the EU meme
How should I skill my JP CV?
Since I have to manually assign targets with MFC for secondaries, can I actually only use one side of my secondaries when I'm sandwiched?
>>166580996
Why would you be sandwiched
don't do that
>>166580996
Yes. You can't hit more than one target, even if half your secondaries have no chance of aiming at it. Just don't be sandwiched though. I rarely find myself in that situation and it's infinitely better to have secondaries that are actually hitting one ship than spraying wildly around several.
>>166580996
Alternate targets)))))))))))
>there are people in this thread that think Nagato is better than Colorado
>>166581873
I'm better then you in Nagato.
>>166581873
>*yiffs*
>>166579791
It's just not fair
>>166580473
Yeah I know. It still bothers me, because it would be a minor effort for them
>>166581873
good meme, upvoted
>>166581964
bad meme, downvoted
>>166581973
bad meme, downvoted
>>166582116
fuck off autispara
I want [UNCUM] redditor faggots to go and stay go
>>166582581
Can someone try this ingame?
>>166581212
>>166581258
Bad wording.
Rather having 2 targets on each side of your ship in front of you, like a cone.
>>166583578
don't do that
>>166566601
Oh cool, thanks friend! I will get the sims for sure. How would you describe the playstyle of Russian and German DDs compared to these US ones? And I'm right in thinking the Japanese ones are torpedo or die hard mode edition, right?
>>166560350
>kiev
>bad
>>166537721
Its just not fun to play CV's in this game. Other navel games make them into the strategy and multi tasking boats that require keeping an eye on multiple squadrons and microing them to keep them alive. WoWS CV play isn't as complex or engaging. The load-outs system is completely stupid and removes any strategy that would come from being able to take the amount of each type of plane you'd want yourself. The most difficult things you do with WoWS CV's is learning the weird way manual bombing works and the range of American AA. After that its just a game of stay away from the American boats, bomb BB's, kill enemy bombers, and then die to the DD that got past your team. Do those about a million times more and you have CV play in this game from tier 4 to tier 10.
CV's don't have to scout because everything is spotable from space when they fire except DD's. The exception is if its the end of the match and both teams have very few ships left, but that isn't common. Air superiority only matters for your ability to do bombing runs and killing planes gets you jack shit for rewards, so its rare to actually get CVs who do the fighter load-outs. Also if you aren't using a Jap CV you're doing it wrong because American CVs have shit load-outs. So everyone and their grandmas are playing the exact same CVs with the same load-outs unless they are masochists or its low tier and they don't know better yet.
Also the grind for CVs is awful because they get very little exp or creds compared to the other ships for doing the same dmg.
>>166555698
I'm stingy about my smoke so i make sure to either get confirmation from the guy, or that my smoke will be laid down in such a way that even if he sailed out of it it would still keep him from being spotted.
>>166584526
>range of American AA
i see you have not met the memetastic AAA range of bong CLs.
>>166584526
CVs got nerfed exp modifiers because of ranked and some rigging it in random battles.
>>166584492
Kiev's performance hinges on whether or not it gets focused. In random battles it can easily get away with memeing on things while not getting shot at, or being able to dodge the one or two ships shooting at it.
Since Ranked matches are small it will get focused a lot more. On top of that it's also unstealthy as fuck. Seeing without being seen in such small matches is a HUGE advantage. You can't contest caps when you get outspotted by other DDs by like 3km, in which case you'd be better off with a cruiser with more staying power and firepower.
>>166579539
I was
Why is the fiji so stompy?
>>166585194
12 fast firing guns.
NA server shut down when?
>>166557242
>Team game
>Disable chat
WG should remove the ability to remove the chat box.
>shitters who try to tell other people in a div what to to play
>>166586412
Most of the divs I've seen recently are awful. Not going for objectives etc.
>>166584182
>Russian
Also play by their guns. They have guns with good range (13-ish km, give or take, with AFT), better arcs than USN, and better fire-starting properties, which means they can stay at ranges setting up fires on big ships. Fairly good AP which can citadel cruisers at short range. Usually very fast at around 40knots.
On the other side, they're bigger than most DDs (thus easier to hit, though they do have the biggest HP pools among DDs), not as maneuverable as USN DDs, and also have worse concealment than the other DD lines. Also they have awful torpedoes, which through most of the line are only for suicidal tactics.
While the guns can shred DDs at short range, they're not so great DD hunters due to the lack of concealment. They're usually played at long range, kind of like Light Cruisers, but without the need to worry about getting citadel'd.
>Germans
Haven't played them so can't say much. From what I've heard, they're like Russian DDs, but made worse. And with sonar. Doesn't seem to be any good enough reason to grind them right now.
>IJN
Torps are still an important armament that should be used as much as possible, but that shouldn't stop you from using their guns to start fires, annoy enemies and generally pad up the damage/XP counter. Some of their weaknesses in the gun areas can be mitigated by picking certain gun-specific skills like EM, AFT and DE. Not in their best spot right now tho.
>>166586828
Too early.
>>166587079
Mosh is a newfag cancerous whore from Reddit who insists he must be the one in charge of making the new generals, what did you expect?
>>166587475
actually I posted early specifically to cuck this "mosh" dude
>>166587678
I hope you're not Mosh, godspeed lad
>>166587678
ayyyy lmao
>>166587475
Why does he think he has to make them?
>>166587984
autism + attention whore
>>166587764
>>166587946
its like 10pm in cuckistan hes probably getting fucked by muhammad by now
Is there a special reason why Gearing is objectively worse than Fletcher?
>>166594656
>fat
>outspotted by fletcher