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>Breach league
https://www.pathofexile.com/breach
>2.5 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1773975
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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reminder th
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PC virgins OUT

this is our game now :D
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what's a good SSF Scion build
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>>166414693
will kinect be supported ?
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holy shit
the call of duty console kids have already arrived
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/5ppoxd/suggestion_for_visual_status_ailment_effects/
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What are some other good Arps that are fun for ssf offline?
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>>166414905
That's a pretty good idea though.
The buff bar at the top is a fucking mess where you can't figure out everything with a glance.
Just tone the overlays down a bit and it's good.

If you disagree, you are a fucking pathetic "m-muh hardcore experience" cuck who cannot appreciate QoL improvements, because of your fragile fucking ego.
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I am not giving You a (You) for that pathetic post.
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Fact: If you do not play Path of Exile
- Solo
- True self-found (no muling)
- True Melee (not ranged melee)
- Hardcore
- with no logout macro

then you're a fucking CASUAL
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Story mode is aids. we need more endless races with perma death and interesting rewards, and ladder statistics.

Discuss
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>>166415198
all the rest
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>>166415212
I'm sure it's gonna be real great to have 3 or 4 of those on your screen at once. Being able to see anything is overrated anyway.
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>>166415212
why not just separate the debuffs from the buffs at the top if that's the case.
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How do you justify strongboxes from an immersion viewpoint

How the fuck do 50 monsters ambush you out of thin air when you click on some container
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magic, duh
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>>166415436
What does that mean though?
Choices are like grim dawn, torchlight 2? and modded diablo 2. Haven't played much modded d2, or any of grim dawn or torchlight 2.

Maybe a modded d2 would be fun because it's familiar to me, but I've already played like all the builds on there so it seems boring
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>>166415567
you are goddamn right... never thought about it
meanwhile chris is hardcore about timeline lore (no guns etc) but meanwhile ??
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>>166415567
the same way a small ceramic vase can fit an entire chest piece and a couple 2h axes
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>>166415484
How often do you need to look at the edges of the screen you cockgobbler?

Like I said, toning those effects down a bit would be just fine, and make some hud element sliders for them in the options, like transparency and scaling.

Call of Duty didn't invent screen overlay effects, so stop that stupid kneejerking.

>>166415561
That would be good also, but apparently GGG doesn't like a comfortable gaming experience.
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>>166415567
magic
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>60+ fps in breaches now
THE ABSOLUTE MADMEN
THEY ACTUALLY DID IT
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fucking bullshit steam verison wont let me update a 231mb update unless i have 13gb free for what i assume is the whole fucking game all over again

what a joke i have to uninstall and reinstall the whole thing
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>>166415737
gd, tl2+mods and d2+mods are all pretty good

if you havent played d2 with median xl you should give it a try. its probably the best "old school" arpg experience out there
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>>166415567
same way a full suit of plate armour can plop out of a crab you roasted to death while it was frozen.
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>>166415968
> using steam in 2017
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who's your waifu, /lolg/
mine's Camille
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>>166415968
>using steam for PoE
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
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>>166415836
>options
free opinion discarded
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>>166416090
I think Crystal Maiden is pretty cute
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>>166415976
Yeah I'll definitely check it out. Last time I played modded d2 it was just with a ladder mod so I could use ladder runewords.
Does it have boosted droprates or will I struggle with ssf?
I know median XL changes tons of skills so I should probably relook at the trees and see if there are any new builds I can try out. The only thing that really annoyed me in d2 was monster resists that could totally negate an elemental type attack unless you had a merc or item with -enemy resist that was rare and expensive af
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>>166415343
i agree.

what the hell even happened to races? too much effort? not console kiddy friendly?
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>>166416110
>options are bad, I want everyone to gimp their playstyle by being a stubborn bitch like me
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>>166416346
low participation
on hold until they figure out asynchronous racing (so never)
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>>166416346
hardly anyone participated
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>racing
ah yes because it's so much fun playing the game over and over again from a1n hundreds of times
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>>166416267
if you want boosted drop-rates (mainly for runes) and more viable builds for endgame while keeping the main game pretty much the same, try out Path of Diablo
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>>166416481
>he never played HH races
most fun you can have on your feet, as Vagan would say
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>>166416481
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>>166416481
This is a game by autists for autists. Fuck off before I REEEEE you off for free m8.
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>>166416346
why cant they just have a standing race league that doesn't care about when you start, but just keeps track of how long you've played?

Maybe they could just reset it every month or something and give out rewards for fastest clear times etc.

the problem with racing in the past was that you needed to be there exactly when it started to be competitive.
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>>166342708
>free
>>166374750
>free
>>166386090
>free
>>166388772
>free
>>166388921
>FREE
>>166399680
>free
>>166411779
>free
>>166412097
>free
>>166412367
>free
>>166381709
>f r e e
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Light pen vinktars or added lightning damage better for howa dps
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>>166416579
>This is a game by autists
Chris Wilson, Jonathan and Erik are all well-adjusted adults

sure, they're a bunch of nerds but that doesn't make them autistic, let alone on the level of the dwellers of this general
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>>166416842
light pen obviously
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>>166416875
>well-adjusted adults
Have you seen the shirts Chris wears? He's a high functioning autist if I ever saw one.
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>>166416842
pen you absolute dingus. How is that even a question?
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>>166417028
>>166417045
>obviously
It isn't obvious to a new player because it isn't like I can test that in my path of building program
baka
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>>166417114
but you can

just simulate it with a custom accessory or jewel
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>>166417114
learn the game mechanics?

penetration is a more multiplier to all of your lightning damage.

an insignificant amount of added lightning dmg is just that, insignificant.

for god's sake use your brain
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Sorry I want to play the game and not sit reading the wiki all day. It took 1 second to answer my question.
Fuck off, faggots
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for the guy who wanted the skeleton build: if you're retarded like me and go self cast (instead of CWC), then use a Queen's escape.
Build is LL so Shav's is given, slap on some auras. You'll definitely want to have an enchanted helmet for additional summoned skeletons
I use a poison support because double dip meme, works so far good enough that I don't see a reason to switch it out. rest is minion dmg -melee dmg -splash. 6th would be either added chaos or empower, maybe vaal skeletons even.

Tree is something like this: http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMDAA18DeIRUBUnFy8YVhpsGyUc3B0UIvQo-ipTKpgvbzLRNblFR0ZxSI5JUUmxS65Ms1XWV8lakVxrX7Bk52h0aqxr22wLbRlvnnC7fRh_xoCkgseDCYRIhMWFYIhAjLGPGo9Gj_qQM5Mnm4qboZu1na6hL6aspwinK6h9qsSycLQMuJO-T76Kv5fBxcNtyT3KSsrTzLzQH9OP0_vXz9kL2RPZW9pi34rpAuq66-7sGOyD7IrviO_r8NXyHvfB99f5N_no-oD60g==

fill most (if not all) jewels slots with army of bones. take a few mana nodes because self cast skeletons means gulping all day. If you use presence of chayula you might as well take the mana/life nodes near witch start or %rmana egen/life near templar. ZO + Stone golem help for survival. Next focus would be aura nodes near ranger/more jewel slots. I used a guardian as well but he kept dying in Uul-netol breaches so I was too lazy to replace him.

you can level with tabula + the 5L setup and slap vaal skeletons as 6th links, works good enough. Might be even worth keeping for breaches. As of now, surviving them is not a problem, but the clear rate is somewhat fluctuating. Still not HC viable desu.

tl;dr fuck self cast go for CWC with united in dream
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it took you more time to post the question and wait for the answer than you looking on the wiki or USING YOUR BRAIN
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not really took 1 second to type and I can continue mapping
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neck yourself retard
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>>166417453
how do you clear maps with that shit? do you have to stand there casting skellys on every pack, or does queens escape let skellys move between packs efficiently?
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ahahahaha
voll's devotion broken by 2.5.2

great work GGG
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i can't believe he typed up that post about a skeleton build

autism
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Did the new update make everything look fucking blurry in dx11?
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>>166418090
for some people yeah
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>>166418126
I thought it was my own eyes. That is good to know
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Darkscorn is like having 6.25 endurance charges all the time as CI, I wonder why no one is using it
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>>166418269
i use it for lab in a swap with soul strike

ez traps
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>>166417962
How did they break it?
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>solo'd Uul-Netol
fuck yeah
i didnt believe in myself
but i did it
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we don't know
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>>166418593
endurance charges not getting consumed or something or other
i dont know
youll see it on reddit in a few minutes probably
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steyox i need you to suck my dick
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Alright who did this
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i've seen that guy talking in 5055

he's legitimately mentally ill
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will the non-binary gender choices be ready for the console launch?
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It is but an act
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>>166419040
me on the left ;)
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>patch fucked AMD driver users even more

really
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that's what you get for using an inferior product
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which uul-netol items are worth blessing
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>amd: used in ps4 and xb1
>inferior

pick one
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>>166417939
>summon two or three times
>pop a bone offering
>move on to next pack, repeat
they're fast enough if other packs are nearby to clear them out as well. Still, you are at the mercy of the retarded skeleton AI so you often have to extra summon for rares. Still, with Haste + bone offering +necro aura bonus I get like .35 Skeleton cast time and move fairly fast around. But you certainly won't reach clear speed of meta builds if that's what you're looking for, that's for sure. As I said, it's more of a retarded/silly build.
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I'm picking both because consoles are inferior
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LOL ps4 and xb1 nice man
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consoles are a more refined gaming platform for discerning customers. pc gaming is an ad-hoc experience that only appeals those who never knew any better
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>>166419682
also desu the main reason I did this build is because witch using a 2h sword looks nifty.
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>>166419602
the ones you need for your challenge
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>>166419889
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>Trap Damage nodes affect the downhill poison and bleed from ascendancy because it originated from a trap
really activates my almonds
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>>166419602
literally none of them
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>Played PoE solo without trading because it has no single player offline mode
>Just learned that they intended for it to be a multiplayer experience in the first place
???
it's not a hard game why would they say you should play in parties
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>tfw no offline ssf mode with boosted drop rates
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Just play Diablo 3
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>offline arpgs

nerds
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i said PoE wasn't hard, not that i wanted to play an easy game, lol
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>implying poe isn't a singleplayer game with multiplayer trading
offline with booosted droprates just removes the middle man baka
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>>166416537
can i play it offline
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i like trading

it's fun to get a nice item you know you can sell and turn into something nice for your character

okay now i see why you want boosted drop rates
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There is literally zero reason why items should even exist

Everything should be 100% skill based, not item based
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But like 99% of the items you get in this game are shit besides some uniqes at the start of a league. You basically just farm maps picking up currency/6 sockets and misc stuff that sells for not very much and buy what you want. It's the same thing every league
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Just play Diablo 3
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there are multiple genres where items have no impact on your gameplay, please pick one of those instead of insisting that an rpg take on that feature
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but the itemization in d3 is boring and so are the skills
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the d3 sale is over and it's back to being overpriced again
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Have you ever chanced a unique item?
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i chanced a lightning coil a few leagues ago when i still played hc
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>>166421293
>There is literally zero reason why items should even exist
>Everything should be 100% skill based, not item based
It's like you're not even aware that you're playing an arpg
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>>166421754
No
Still trying though
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>>166421754
yes. last league a void battery and this league a heretics
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What are the actual odds of getting a unique from a chance orb?
I chance every occultist vestment I encounter so I'm wondering just what are the odds of getting one or the other.
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depends on the unique tier
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>>166421754
chanced a cospris malice last league
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>>166419040
>fixed a bug where items with built in triggered skills could have that skill detached from the item with support gems such as spell totem and be cast continuously without the trigger condition

what the fuck does this even mean? What items have triggered skills, and who was abusing it?
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>>166422665
replying to myself but, were people molten bursting with spell totem?
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offhand i can only think of the chicken axe and the bone nova one
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>>166422812
reply to yourself with how that is impossible for 2 different reasons
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How much is a good labyrinth enchant actually worth on a half decent helmet?
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Post your grinding soundtracks
https://youtu.be/nomNAAMDReE
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>>166423103
>specify literally nothing
>expect answers
poetards???
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>>166422879
then i dont understand what those patch notes even mean? What items have triggerable skills attached to them that could even be supported by spell totem.

Don't be a smug faggot, obviously I know that's not normal behavior, but the patch notes are vague and seem to imply some sort of bug with triggered skills you sperg
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>>166422665
I'm not familiar with any items like that, but I guess the Uul-Netol axe maybe? Has a Bone Nova trigger effect.
I guess you could put a spell totem support in the axe and get a Bone Nova Totem?
I haven't played enough to say for certain.
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>>166423341
the only two i even know of are nigga mahi, and uul netol.

Every other item im aware of specifies cast socketed gem, not triggers an innate skill in the item
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>>166421754
no but i wasted a bunch of chances on leather belts before learning you have to be in a nemesis Zana map to actually get a headhunter. learned that today
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>>166423119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNIidTUFstw
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>>166423119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nomNAAMDReE&feature=youtu.be
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>>166419578
How so? Seems to have bumped my system from 140fps to 160fps
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>>166423168
he said GOOD enchant, so not a bad one
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>>166423341
ah, figured it out. Apparently someone was using Abberath's Hooves, or Arakaali's Fang in this way. I don't think there are any other options
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>>166423692
I chanced about two dozen vaal axes until I figured out that atziri's disfavor is drop only
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I need a mechanics nerd, does "totem duration" apply to poison duration as well? Poison SWT might be pretty cool if it does
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why is it I get to level 90 then get bored and make a new character
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>>166423192
>were people molten bursting with spell totem?
How can you attack with a spell totem?
How can you use ranged attack totem with a melee weapon?
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>>166423978
because the grind to hit 90 is abysmal and by the time you reach it, you are void of that joy you felt leading up to that moment. so you create a new character in hopes that it will invigorate you and revitalize your passion for the game, which it does :)
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>>166424207
It is hard to roll more than 2 characters desu. Any decent character that doesn't use shavs or a ES regalia so I don't have to rob my other characters.
I guess I could look for something that uses same colors so it isn't so bad. Been passing around the same booties to all my characters
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>>166423993
let me answer that by asking you a question. How can you cast a skill thats attached to a trigger gem which is only supposed to be triggered by the items trigger condition?

It's a bug anon, it doesn't have to make sense

For all i know, they could have mistakenly attached the spell tag to molten burst
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>>166423950
it is just totem duration, think of it as summon time.
you can check the tooltip on how long the totem lives.
you havent found a ''duration'' doubé dipper xD exile
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>>166425470
Welp that's too bad, but good to know, thanks
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>>166424852
those two things are not in any way related and the fact that you're asking dumb ass questions goes to show how retarded you are
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>first to 100 on hc challenge league
>first to 100 on sc challenge league
>not ssf
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I want to do a detonate death build guys. anyone can help? Just played some D2 with a friend and god DAMN Corpse explosion so sick as usual ,need to make it work in PoE.
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Is XBONE HARCORE the only true HARDCORE league for a HARDCORE player like myself?

>no chicken script instant logout
>no trade
>no filter
>4 flasks/4 skills only
>final destination
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tfw everytime I play d2 I fall into making a summoner necro because it is easy and strong
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>>166423192
Abberath's hooves maybe? There's no cast time listed on the wiki, but that might mean it has negligible cast time which would make it OP on a totem.
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>>166425956
very hard to make DD work post ele prolif nerf, you're pretty much forced into going Elementalist for Beacon of Ruin, but spell damage doesn't help you so that makes for an awkward tree + you can only use scepters basically


did I mention you can't level with it?
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>>166425630
listen up tit. Molten burst is one of the only examples of a skill being triggered within an item. The patch notes referenced a bug where these skills could be supported by other gems and cast without the trigger condition.

There aren't that many of these that players could abuse, and i thought maybe someone had discovered a "bug" related to the item.

the two things absolutely are related since if the skill was tagged as "spell" it might very well be that a bug existed allowing that skill to be supported by spell totem.

I simply forgot about hooves, which is the only other item which might reasonably be abused in this fashion.

why are you being such a try hard faggot about it?
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>>166425956
its my favorite skill, ive used it in nemesis league back when it was good

nowadays i'd reccomend you play it as a crit trapper. one link for desecrate multitrap for mass corpses, and then detonate dead trap so everything detonates.

or level as flameblast and transition into selfcast desecrate DD with proliferation (prolly elementalist would be your best bet)
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>PAYING MICROSOFT GOLD SUB TO PAY FOR A FREE TO PLAY GAME
YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP.
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>>166426183
>>166426323
thanks for the info, I should probably I've tried that back then. I'll brew something up.
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>wasted shaper portal because game literally froze during one of the guardian fights
nice servers ggg
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>>166426104
>tfw no Fanaticism aura pally to party with
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>"""""people""""""" unironically discussing a casual console game
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>needing more than 1 portal to kill shaper
sh*tbirds out
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>>166426263
you're a retarded

reddit crossposter that ca

n't read or t

hink for himself so I won'

t bother with you anymo

r

e.
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>>166414905
Apparently CoD kiddies know better than GGG how to make a good UI.
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>>166427485
like im going to bother formatting my fucking post when it goes over more than one line. Suck my dick
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>>166427485
Wow, so this... is the power of.. turbo-autism
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I know it probably isn't much of accomplishment for you. But I did shaper for the first time yesterday and used all my portals like a fucking retard.
Today I did it without dying and I'm a lil proud of myself
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Haha
Hold on
Wait a minute
GGG breaks two things with a tiny patch that doesn't actually have any changes in it that affects those things
And needs to be told that those things are now broken (one of which is obvious as hell)
And redditors are PRAISING GGG for this?
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>>166427832
that was a good fix and deserved nerf, but because whiny streamer fags and RMT mtx buying babbies complain it'll get reverted
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>>166427832
Do not try to understand these people
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http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/xbox-play-anywhere

if GGG had made the xbone version a play anywhere title we could play it on PC for comparison sake without paying for an m$ gold sub and just to see what controller PoE with proper controls and UI is like
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>>166427810
>howa raider
proud as a jew losing a penny I reckon
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>>166427810
nice

gonna do my first shaper tonight, expecting a definite one shot based on guardians so far
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Sry if you're upset at me playing a strong build on my first league ever
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>>166428312
It is pretty easy when you get the hang of it. Just yesterday I was running away from everything and never had time to dps. I learned how to deal with the gravity things better & leech through the beam
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>>166428156
Are you drunk?
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>>166428189
But why the fuck would they do that when its already on PC
Retard
Would you actually want the PC versions patches to be determined by Microsofts approval scheme?
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full disclosure: ive had diarrhea for the past month
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i don't like armenians desu
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>>166428803
Same but for the past 6
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>>166429087
years? same
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No, months
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>>166427810
>have done a bunch of shaper runs
>have not gotten anything other than globs/boots
REEEEEE
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Time to waste it all on a new build amirite
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>>166429783
>those sextant
merge them boooyyyyyy
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Plan to do that when I start running maps again. I just bought them all
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>>166429783
I would be spending that on getting to 40/40
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>buying challenges instead of earning them yourself
lmao
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Guys, Guys
What if
Unique Skill Gems
How could that work.
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>>166430057
Retard
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>>166430136
Portal is pretty much that
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Yes. I'm the retard, catman
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>>166428557
because i want to see what the xbone version is like

quite simple tbqh
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>>166431089
But an Xbox one then
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>fps on the dx11 client dropped from over 100 to mid 50s
nice fucking game lmao
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>>166431185
that's the whole point retard. you don't have to or pay for online. why should i when they could just make the game play anywhere capable? quit posting you shit gobbling moron
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I had to switch back to dx9 because dx11 is a blurry mess now.
When they fixing this shit
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>>166431330
YOU ALREADY HAVE THE GAME ON PC
HOLY SHIT
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>>166431635
HE THINKS CONSOLE POE IS SAME AS PC
HOLY SHIT WHAT A RETARDED FAGGOT

why don't you get some friends moron nobody wants to sit here feeding a brain dead reject you's
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>>166431635
the game on PC however does not truly support controllers

diablo clones can be fairly comfy with controllers, like van helsing
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>>166431494
thye literally just pushed out the patch that fixes the blurryness
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uhhh

I just wasted 2 teles because chimera started doing some sort of untargetable blink strike chunking me for hp with no way to fight back

what the fuck is this
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When is this game coming to iOS? My wife's son would love to play this on his iPad!
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listen to yourselves
you retarded casual faggots are actually complaining that you're not getting access to an inferior version of the game
what the fuck is wrong with you
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>>166431876
cheers
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>>166431903
he hides in smoke clouds and attacks you
just run into the smoke clouds until he reappears
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Oros just dropped
had no intentions of playing a flicker again but...near perfect rolls...is flicker the only thing this is good for or is there another build
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what kind of retard wouldn't want to be able to play the game they paid for
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>he paid for PoE and is unable to play it
How do you breathe?
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>paid for console poe and unable to play it
literally every supporter without an xbone
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No, you paid for the cosmetic items and points.
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it says clearly that i paid for the development of poe
i win you lose im right your wrong im smart your dumb
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""""""This support is greatly appreciated. It covers not only our day-to-day development costs but also the development of future expansions.""""""

what did he mean by this
>>
he means once he acquires enough currency he is dropping the game because you funded his savings account
desu give less
>>
>Thanks to your generous contributions, we were able to pay for the content and server costs of Path of Exile and several expansions.

what did he mean by this
>>
it means thats what they use the money for
but that's not what you paid for
you paid for cosmetic items
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what kind of shit eater pays for a game they can't play?
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>>166432016
CoC discharge
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>he can't figure out how to play Path of Exile
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>he has figured out how to play xbone poe on pc without xbone

tell me more
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just got home from bestbuy with my xbox. Got it all set up. How do I get POE on this thing?
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>pay for Steam version of game
>"what the fuck? why won't they let me play the Xbox version on my PC????"

I can't understand how you can be this dumb
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>>166432985
man fuck, i wanna do a discharge build but i have a cospris too, im guessing thats better right?
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>pay to support development of poe xbone
>can't play it

you're literally the dumbest girl alive
>>
there's this thing called play anywhere maybe you heard of it? nah just keep talking to yourself.
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lmao this dude is going to need a diaper change after the fit he has when he sees the new mtx
all because he cant play the xbox version without owning an xbox
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this dumbass keeps talking to himself while not even knowing what play anywhere is. and they'll make another post to prove how stupid they are.
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that's right better shut your fat face retarded faggot
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>give good build guide to friend for his support character
>"I've made a few personal changes to the build/tree"
aka I made it worse
>>
>he has to follow guides 100% to the letter
>has no brain capacity for independent thought or improvisation in the face of new circumstances or different gear availability

typical ****crow
>>
>create build that is most efficient for what it's supposed to do
>change it for the sake of change making it worse
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>no independent thought whatsoever
>too afraid to confront people about things
>needs to vent on a nazi forum

i bet you spent your weekend protesting Trump's office
>>
there was independent though when the build was made in the first place, retard. Changing it literally just makes it worse
>>
retarded are we
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>create the perfect build
>plop face-first onto my bed, fists clenched in victory, tears welling up my eyes
>weep softly into pillow
>pass out
laptop ended up dying while I was passed out
>>
Whats the POE equivalent of cuck+scat+dom porn?
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>>166434950
Playing SSF HC
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>>166434950
crying about not being able to play Xbox One version on your Personal Computer
>>
How many weeks are left in the Breach League?
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like 5
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>>166435308
>>166433694
>>
what kind of cuck pays for a game they can't play
>>
>"I've been creating PoE with console in mind for past 3 years while only employing 3 developers to create this epic experience"

t. cuck wilson
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can HoWaA ST clear hall of grandmasters
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>>166437823
why dont you try and find out
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>>166436592
you, apparently
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>>166438147
all poe supporters, apparently
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>>166437823
not if you run into mull or dyness
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>>166438184
i'm sure a lot of them own Xbox Ones :)
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>>166414414
bad
>>166414605
gonna jo to this
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do shitcrows have a hierarchy?
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>>166437823
No
You'll either get oneshot by the LA guy, won't be able to punch through aegis tank fucks, or any of the other bullshit in there.
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>>166438237
highly unlikely. judging by feedback very few are happy about it.
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>>166438317
ya my cock in your ass
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>he doesn't own an Xbox One
>He can't afford a $250 console
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>try helping a new player
>One of those autists that want literally everything handed to him
why did I even try
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>buying an xbone just to play poe
>paying a sub fee to play f2p game

still haven't read a single valid reason why they didn't make xbone poe play anywhere

it connects to the xbone server so it doesn't interfere with pc poe
it only supports controller so no excuses about pc skill design or play the proper pc version

the real answer: GGG and you are fucking retards
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>>166438663

>he didnt wait to get a Switch instead
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>>166439192
>paying 300 dollarydoos for a console with FIVE games on launch
seriously it doesn't even have fucking mario kart
>>
went into every guardian fight completely blind

>1 shot hydra, 0 portals, never came close to dying
>used all portals to kill chimera, boss was fine but almost rip'd to adds multiple times
>failed to kill minotaur 1st try, ran out of portals
>used all portals to kill phoenix
>1 shot minotaur + tul breach at the same time with Tul himself spawning, 0 portals

what are my chances at shaper?

I think the first minotaur map was rolled poorly and phoenix,mino,chim the first 4-5 portals were usually wasted because I didn't know the mechanics and they were a lot easier once I figured certain things out BUT the chimera adds were hitting hard on me and I have a little less than 9k ES because I cant afford the really pricey ES gear

do I have a shot or no?
>>
even marvel heroes has controller support and will release for ps4. why is ggg always inferior to the competition?
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Depends on build etc etc
Just go do it, senpai
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>>166440280
cyclone if that helps
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>>166440239
its funny, their big, hyped update that promised to fix everything, was actually a mechanics overhaul to bring the game in-line with the console gameplay and proper controller support

they got cucked just like we did
>>
I got flame totem a bit later in Arc 1 because I didn't know you had to buy it from a vendor, will that be a problem if I'm going for a FT build? I'm trying to follow this build https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1050038/page/1
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>>166440939
no it doesnt matter

that build is questionable tbqh
>>
what did the buddhist monk say to the pizza maker
>>
>having a blast trying to advance my first char's atlas, buying new maps with my last currency, not even knowing if I can finish it
>finally able to buy a gear upgrade that my build recommends
>suddenly all endgame content is trivial and exalt value stuff drops left and right

Capitalism was a mistake
>>
make me one with everything

lol
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>blade vortex does double damage if you have it socketed twice
BLADE VORTEX WAS A MISTAKE
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>>166441158
Do you have a better one? I'm new so I don't know much and I've already put the points
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>>166441676
I read that in a build just yesterday but I thought it was a joke.
How does it actually work? You just cast the skill like normal and it does double damage?
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>>166441676
classic GGG
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got god of misfortune prophecy
what should i try to link
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>>166440630
at least they're not having features withheld from pc version
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>>166441853
>>166441915
My best guess for why it works is it tracks each BV separately, but each BV just checks for the global blade count to see how often it hits and what multiplier it gets.

So you have your 20 stack bv - inc duration - faster casting - spell echo just to have your other bvs read as at 20 stacks, then each separate bv you cast sees its at 20 stacks and does 20 stacks of damage.

BV was a fucking mistake.
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>>166441831

keep at it. its not a bad one, just somewhat outdated for the current meta.

you may reach this same conclusion as you learn more about the game mechanics
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>>166442160
Oh okay then, well if It's not too late you can tell me what to change from it, my character is level 13 now.
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>>166442143
holy spaghetti batman.

3.0 they're going to "nerf" bv again and it's going to oneshot the new final boss on a 2link.
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>>166443818
im talking about stuff way down the line, when you are settling on your endgame gem/gear setup. just level normally fo rnow
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>thinking anything you do before lvl 70 matters in any way at all
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I have a feeling they can't even fix BV because it's worked that way since it came out and people have known about it since then too
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So guys, what does this looks like for a Detonate Dead/Desecrate crit-trap CI Elementalist?

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMCAQFvA3UHHg3RDkgRDxEvEVARlhJpFdcWQBccGGoabBslHRQe8CBuIvQqCyqNKwosvzW5Ntg5UjwFPV9GUkbXSRtJUUmxS65Ms1AwUlNWY1cpWAdYd1xrXfJfBF9qY0NkqmZUZp5qNmt6bAttGXBScXlxhXIPdoJ-WX_GgpuESIV7hX2GronTi3qMNox2j0aP-pD6kSuTJ5RvlS6XlZf0mjubhpuhna6f36EvpwinK6yYtUi3Mbd1vorDbcgMyL_QH9DQ1AfXz9lb2t3bXtyN323fiuL344TpAutj7BjsOOxV7hXvfO-I7-vw1fFs98H31_k3-tL8TA==
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>>166441853
What build?
>>
Why is abyssus so fucking expensive holyshit balls.
>>
>>166445546
because every bf memer uses it and you probably want it to meme with it as well
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>>166445546
are you poor or something lmao
it's not even expensive
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>>166445752
40c for a fucking 40% phys dmg taken is goddamn expensive for a HC noob.
>>
Is scion the biggest noobtrap in this game?

Everybody new rushes to unlock xher and then tries to play xher immediately.
>>
WAAAAAAAAAAAA THE BEST HELM FOR MY CHARACTER IS 40C

Do you even know how to dried lake?
Pathetic retard noob baby
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>>166445901
It's just surprising since a couple of weeks ago I bought a sweet abyssus with 42% reduced dmg taken for 15-18c and now these prices just skyrocketed
>>
is a skin of the loyal a viable vaal regalia option in CI builds (if you use shield)?
>>
>>166445476
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1823441
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>>166429848
You can merge sextants?
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y
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>>166447079
>Have a bunch of midnights from farming HoGM
>No noons
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>>166447079
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>>166422665
There was a video of someone putting a spell totem gem in the scourge claw, which resulted in a totem continuously spawning wolves. I guess that's was they fixed.
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>>166446953
yes 3->1
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>>166446031
For damage reasons only yes
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>>166447096
I have like 15 noons right now with nothing else
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Celestial Hood is pretty great
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GGG is a good company and make a great game u can buy mtx too :)

Posted from my Xbox Oneâ„¢
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how is this even possible
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>>166448181
I will buy the MTX if I like them. I don't give a flying fuck if they use the cash to get hookers or something
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>>166448195
if its on standard, nothing to see

if its on temp leage, a RMTer
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>>166448195
Stand in hideout for a month flipping then rmt
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>>166447984
>fisting mtx
>one hand enters the anus
>a ray of fire leaves the body
pottery
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>>166448504
oh you're right, its standard. I was sure it was breach. Nothing to see then
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>>166447119
>>166447079
>>
How much health do the worms from the writhing jar have? Does it scale with the map level?

What about vaal breach?
>>
>>166449036
Why do people have so many regular tabs?
>>
Probably because they are cheaper than premium and you only need so many selling tabs
>>
auto pickup when
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>>166449036
im sorry
>>
Rate my character & profile /poeg/
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>>166415968
for some reason, the main reason that standalone version is better then steam version (at least for me) is that steam version refuses to start 64 bit version of itself (forces 32 bit, if i try to use dx11 option, error 740 shows up)
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>>166449275
I'm a casual and didn't wanna invest more than 20 bucks so I bought discounted tab bundles and just upgraded two of them
>>
>>166449639
Whoops, http://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/nickscolari/characters
>>
SSF league needs fixed boss loot tables and proper direction with your atlas

Makes no sense unlocking everything and travelling down a "path" because the loot drops down that path are absolutely random, making simply shaping your atlas to farm only strand to lvl 100 and hoping you get the right items """"SSF""" gameplay

dumb, I wanna play it but it's just in a shit state.

inb4 retard says div cards fix it when they clearly do not
>>
>>166449639
>>166449784
>standard
>non-legacy lightning coil
>>
>tfw I have enough splinters for chayula but scared I won't meet the dps check
;_;
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>>166450638
just use abyssal cry
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>>166449663
i get a fucking shit ton of crashes, apparently theres some issue with my 280x. Do you think the standalone version would change that?
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>>166450338
Yeah that character isnt that old, i think i made it the league before perandus? Or maybe during perandus
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>>166450807
Maybe? better try it, fixed a lot of issues for me getting rid of steam version.
>>
I just saw someone's character profile and they use both area support, and conc effect.. really makes me think
>>
>list a flask for 62c
>get 5 messages offering 1 ex

yes the player """""""""""""""""""""""interaction"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" is so great

literally kill yourself if you're anti AH shill
>>
Really 5 people? crazy
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>>166450807
My 280x doesn't have any problems with the steam version. Are you sure it's the card?
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>>166449663
Wait steam version isn't 64?? If that's the case I'll switch to standalone right now
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>>166450807
I get a ton too on a 970, all geforce related crashes

have absolutely no idea why it does it so much
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>>166451941
I play on the x64 steam version.
>>
How would a build focused around bleeds deal with mobs who refuse to move?
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>>166451941
No, for some reason I can't play 64bit on steam, it either forces 32 bit or if i try to use dx11 setting it will not even start game in 64 nit through steam, will show error 740 for some reason, heck if i know what is the issue there, other games work perfectly in 64 bit.
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>>166451851
no idea

its usually driver crashes where it recovers immediately afterwards but i have to close the game its just black.

sometimes its a legit crash where the game just stops
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Dude is asking 60c for this wand, seems very good for mathil's recent wander. Seller says it can be multimodded pretty well and it does look like it but i cant afford to do any of that and 60c is like 80% of what i have.

I wanna do it but not sure if it will compete with just one shitty phys roll, and the % is kind of low but the added chaos will probably be good
>>
It isn't chaos damage added to spells though?? I assume his build uses spells I haven't looked into it. Looks pretty shitty desu
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>>166454296
>following a fotw mathil build
of course its expensive
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>>166454296
that phys roll feels too low for 60c, even with the added chaos and crit

if i were you and had that kinda budget, i'd skip
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>>166454373
well if thats true theres no way im getting this wand but im preeeeeeeeeeeetty sure that it'd say "adds X to X chaos dmg to spells"

like this
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@166454373
>people this clueless are giving you advice
>>
Yeah that is what I am saying. Unless you are using physical attacks that wand is bad. And I can't imagine someone using a wand for physical attacks, but again I haven't seen how the build works. I'm just assuming
>>
@166454626
>clearly state I could be totally wrong
Ur right I should just not say anything and let this be a ded thread all the time
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>>166454629
its a Kinetic Blast\Barrage build, uses a ton of physical and poison dmg, i figure with all the %increased chaos nodes i'd be getting, the added chaos would be choice

compare with my current wand, i cant even run void manip atm because it has a significant amount of ele dmg on hit
>>
if you're going to misinform people then yes, maybe you should not say anything
>>
I wasn't misinforming though. I just said it is BAD IF
it
USES
SPELLS
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>>166414905

I threw up a little. Imagine the clutter when you get afflicted by 2 or more stat effects.

The best way to fix the UI is do what GW 1 did. Easy on the fly customizability. Where you can move buff and debuff icons where you want and resize them how you want.
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nigga u said it adds the chaos dmg to spells

you're talking about another thing entirely
>>
Do you want to re read what I said? I literally said it ISN'T chaos added to spells. Which assuming you used spells wouldn't be good
>>
kys retard
>>
>>166454718

Why not just use obliteration wand?

Seems way better. And its dirt cheap.
>>
>calls someone else retarded
>doesn't even know how to read
fucking ESL lmao
>>
YOU are the one that can't read dumbass
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>>166455029
I was using it, was really great using it right at 55 when i could weild it but its min dmg is too low and the chaos splash is kind of wasted since KB already splashes and kills most things
>>
Maybe if I keep calling him a dumbass instead of reading I can be right!!!!
Am I doing good, mom??
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>>166455187

I dunno, when i was using it i was maxing my poison damage and chaos dmg, so the phys part was completely useless on my KB wander. So it was actually really hard to top Obliteration wand.

The poison killed pretty much everything, and the rares died to exploding mobs. But yea min damage was meh.
>>
>>166455279
how did u apply poison? im looking at cospris atm but a 5link is pretty steep,6 is out of the question atm
>>
kys retard
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>>166455374

The plebbiest way of them all.

By being assassin and picking up the poison chance nodes.
>>
>>166448504
>if its on standard, nothing to see
I combine and arrange all of my league leftovers and I don't even have 50 ex pure.

You would still need to do some serious flipping to get that many exalts. Or sell a lot of your race rewards.
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>>166454895
I cant get poison to show properly with these others on the screen, it needs to be more obnoxious. Maybe tint the whole screen green or put bubbles everywhere.
>>
You guys swap level 21 gems between characters or get multiple?
>>
>>166455638
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>>166455638

Definitely, bix bubbles in the middle. Also big xbox button saying PRESS X TO GULP
>>
>>166455709
yeah
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Poisonwave totems are pretty comfy
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>>166456201

Anything poison is comfy.

Literally how to make any build good -> use poison mechanic.
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>>166455782
i got u pham
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>>166456886
May God have mercy.
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>>166456886

Marvelous. I like where this is heading.
>>
>it's a /poeg/ goes full reddit episode

stay classy
>>
Why were eternal orbs removed?
>>
>>166458496
not enough rng
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kinda feel like playing poe today

what's a good/fun build to play poeg that's also easy to level
>>
anything fire-based is easy to level
>>
>>166458496
From what I've read people used them to craft perfect items and then just kept selling mirrored copies.
But the first few people who got there in a league would make absurd amounts of money compared to everyone else so that's why they removed it I guess.
>>
>>166458496
It made it too easy to craft gg gear

especially on standard
>>
>tfw I hit 2/2 for level 21 wrath
>>
>farm shaper
>only drop is one half decent starforge worth 90c, total loss of like 200+c

>try doing monstrous treasure RNG, put in 10 shrines in hope to get headhunter card
>nothing, more or less a total loss of at least 30c not even counting the expensive cost of the map and all the mods put on and sextants etc


>try farm lab
>20 ex in one day
So everything is fucking shit but lab huh, guess I know what I'm doing next league
>>
>>166460567

>gamble
>lose
>omg this never pays out
>>
>>166460606
uhh you either get it or you don't

50/50 dumbass
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hey poeg rate my're howaa build

poeurl.com/1g9
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>list item for cheapest
>guy pms me offering ex for 50c item
>i tell him no
>starts telling me about how I should just take it because it will change to standard and be worth 87c soon
>calls me a jew even though I have the cheapest item and he is lowballing me
>Asks me if I will take vaal orbs. "sure if you overpay"
>starts sperging out even more
>offers exalt and some chaos
>tell him I won't even trade him anymore and he goes full autism mode
>>
>>166460996
>not stocking up on exalts RIGHT NOW
lmao dude what
>>
>>166460696
is this bait?
It's bad
>>
>>166461073
>accepting an item worth 40c for an item worth 50c
:^)
if I wanted to stock up I'd just buy them. Not trade items worth more than them for them.
Autist
>>
>>166461156
the real question is: did you sell your item yet?
>>
>>166461102
i'm 100% serious

the only problem is low int
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>>166461196
Just did. It was a void battery
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>>166461229
>the only problem is low int
>howaa build
anon...
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>>166461229
This is my howa tree ATM.
If you have really shitty ES gear you can forgo heart of thunder and go under for deep wisdom/blast radius/arcane focus etc for general mapping.

http://poeurl.com/1hc
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>>166461324
win a HC demi before you speak to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>166461376
hmm how much ES do you have

you'rea'r'e'a'rr'we'r'a'e'ra'e'r'e'r'ae'r'ae'r'a'er'a'er'e'are build reeks of shitcore
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So hold up, does that hierophant skill mean you can have 4 totems without items? Is that actually any good even though it has a less damage modifier?
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>>166461324
He can use conversion jewls, but the doesn't fix the lack of damage nodes, also
>tacking PHYSICAL leech on a ele build
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>>166462229
technically it's more dmg but have fun summoning four totems every time you need to kill something
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>>166462229
It's best used for non damage dealing utility totems.
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>>166462225
11k right now
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>>166462504
this REALLY makes me thingk
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Is it a 1/4 chance to hit implicit mod when vaaling a weapon and then just weighting depending on what implicit you get? Considering buying a bunch of claws to get culling on
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unique basalt flask with OP effects when
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rate my build poeg

howaa berserker
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>>166463351
uniq basalt with chance to get endurance charges on kill + increased melee dmg per end charge
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>>166463351
>during flask effect all currency drops are rolled up one level
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>>166463351
>flask that increases your maximum life by 35% during effect

It's like I'm really using vaal discipline
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>>166464173
2stronk
how about a basalt flask that increases physical damage reduction by an additional 10% but also decreases movespeed by 20% (less, not reduced)
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>>166464261
how is that too strong

that's literally what vaal discipline does and only takes up ONE gem slot

a flask is way more important than a single gem slot with no downside to having it equipped
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>>166464340
vaal discipline being retardedly strong doesn't mean we should add broken shit for life builds, it just means vaal discipline needs to be nerfed
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>>166464340
>vaal skill charged with souls vs a fucking flask

dude
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>>166463535
please critique my build

>1300int with decent gear
>cant be stunned
>shit loads of damage
>shit loads of leech

the only obvious downside is it will be hard to level
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>>166464437
>>166464418

>kill one mob pack as soon as you go into a map
>now you have increased "life" from 8k to 13k on demand
>recharges instantly in any breach or mapping scenario so you can have it again before the current one even ends


Wow what a drawback, it recharges itself just like a flask upon killing enemies. Woah. How very different!!

You retards must work for ggg with this kind of retardation
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>>166464635
>vaal skills fully charge upon entering hideout
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>drop a mjölner
>get excited, those were 30ex at one point
>literally 1 chaos item
well fuck me
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>>166464682
Wow just like rumi's which gives even more than 30% EHP -- AND can be used together with vaal discipline too.

retard
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>>166465269
are you really trying to tell me a vaal skill effect is the same thing as a flask effect
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>>166464453
howa is not hard to level what the hell are you talking about
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>>166465269
>block
>ehp
retard
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How do Hidden Potential builds get enough tankiness with blue gear?
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>>166465269
fuck off you were told already
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>>166465443
What is armour?

Use a rumi's flask and you'll see you get 25%+ physical damage reduction even with no armour scaling on the tree you fucking LITERAL downs syndrome retard

Although something tells me you haven't even made it to high enough level to equip one
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>>166465971
oh ok so you have no idea how armor works
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>>166465971
>armour
>worth shit
nobody uses unique granite flasks for the armour faggot
if people want physical damage reduction they just get a fucking basalt which blows ANY granite flask out of the water
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>>166466186
Do you??

you realize 99% of the hits in the game won't be hitting you for 4000 per hit right?
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>>166467365
Do you have supreme autism or something

Do only absolute dribbling retards exist here?

imagine if you had 5 flasks slots and could use 2 at once fucking clown
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>>166467552
nice reading comprehension cuck
>basalt for physical damage reduction
>nobody takes UNIQUE granite flasks for armour, meaning they take them for their UNIQUE effects
you sure are fucking stupid
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>>166467414
you realize that 99% of the hits in this game can be ignored except for the 1% that can oneshot you right????
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fun fact: everyone in this general is retarded except me
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>>166465372
why do i even come here
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inside a trial of crippling grief right now if anyone wants to come
breach normal
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>>166467693
What you wrote implies you'd use ONE flask to mitigate physical damage rather than 2

I'd also love to know which basalt flask is better than having a chance to completely negate every hit // negate every 1 in 5 hits
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>>166469425
No, it doesn't imply that at all
Also consistency>RNG
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i remember when this general was full of elite players

now it's full of shitcrows and ethnic redditors
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I know right I prefer it much more when people just shitpost about non-PoE related things with 15 minutes between each post rather than discuss the game at all xd
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>have a logout macro
>this makes them an elite player
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guys i no longer enjoy PoE, i feel like im PT and the game is just a hack and slash at this point.
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>>166465169
Sold my mjolner to one guy 3 days before nerf.
I kinda feelt sorry for him, looked quite happy to complete his build...
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>>166471171
What was it before this?
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>>166455505
thing is, even if you rmt on standard, the exalt per dollar is dirt cheap and nearly in unlimited availability
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I hesitate between Blink arrow and Flame dash for a movement skill. Culling strike works with Blink arrow right?
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>friend sperging at me because I use a level 21 discipline gem
starting to trigger me desu
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>>166415968
Yeah you can thank GGG for having all of their game files in one 12GB archive.
They knew this would make the Steam patching take forever and still decided to use it in the Steam version instead of their launcher.
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>>166473127

it has nothing to do with that

the standalone patcher just adds and removes files from the archive. its the steam patcher that NEEDS to extract the whole archive, then patch/change files, then recompress it all again, so it needs 2x the disk space. its all due to using shittily implemented steam client
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GGG should release an offline version of an old version of the game, like before awakening
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>>166472970
whats the problem?
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>PoE with steam
literally why. dont get me wrong, I have nothing against steam, but theres a perfectly fonctionnal launcher on the main site so why chose to log through steam to get in PoE? just why?
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>>166463535
to this day I still have no idea if you're baiting every time or if you genuinely suck that much at making builds

shouldn't you be playing angry birds? something easier on your tiny cat brain?
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>>166474081
m-muh archive of games spergs
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>>166470312
>I want a 10 second logout timer
cuck
>I want a 5 second logout timer cuck
cuck
>I think logging out allows a player to cheat death
cuck
>I properly understand networking and game design. A logout timer = to the time it takes to port out would be in harmony with both these concepts, while defeating auto chicken scripts, without compromising one shot mechanics
master race
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>>166469229
???
unupgraded claws are literally THE go-to leveling item unless you're leveling spells or 2h but you're a catshitter so what would you know.
and here let me critique your shit build
>>>>zerk on a build that already gets both leech and shitloads of damage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>doomed to get stunlocked on bosses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bloodrage

good lord
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>>166449036
>>166447079
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>>166474081

1. ""people"" who come to the game via steam's own advertising platform so they never knew any better

2. """""""""people"""""" who have steambucks and want to spend on poe and just kept on using the client
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>>166473908
He is just droning on and on about how it's a waste of money, etc etc. Even if I leveled it up myself it's a waste of.timr and I should just sell it etc. Insinuating I'm bad just for using it
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>>166474121
where's you're HC demis?
>>166474149
you don't want more dmg? free stun immunity? free 100% hit chance? what's wrong with bloodrage?

you seem like a noob desu
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where's your level 100 in hc
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>>166474252
xhe is jelly

are you so autistic that you need people to explain you what your friend means by sperging out about something like that?
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>>166473708
Steam patching makes backups of the files being patched, so every time you patch something you need to backup that 12GB archive.

The reason it takes forever to patch is because this archive is not organized in any way so two people can have the files in it be in completely different order. It's awful.
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>>166474418
No I'm just blogging and it was annoying me
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>>166474321
Post the build with proper gear in an builder for a comparison. Also bloodrage is shit. Use ancestral protector.. baka. Hit chance literally doesn't matter when you use bf and unwavering stance isn't hard to get while converting to int. Build is shit.
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guys i got a warning from GGG staff for saying Digger Nicks in global
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>>166474658

not that guy, but: did you just starting playing this league?
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>>166474407
>>166474658
>Post the build with proper gear in an builder for a comparison.
no
>Also bloodrage is shit.
rofl
>Use ancestral protector.. baka
kek, obligatory
>Hit chance literally doesn't matter
lmao
>unwavering stance isn't hard to get while converting to int
lel
>Build is shit.
said the shitcrow who hasn't won any HC demis
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>>166474818
>Says the guy that buys all his challenges
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friendly reminder if you aren't hc ssf your build is shit and your opinion doesn't count friendly reminder if you aren't hc ssf you're only one tier above shitcrow friendly reminder your "logic" as response to these type posts only serves as proof of your inferior and irrelevant casual shitter play
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Any reason to make a CI ranger spectral throw if it's not HoWaAaAaAAaa?
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>raider howaa

honestly retarded
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>>166474814
I thought we were all posting bait
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>it's a catshitter tries to be Kripp episode
Listen you fucking retard, Berserker's 40% more damage is garbage for a build that doesn't double dip, moreover EO is already a 40% more damage multiplier that you forego by going RT, so your entire ascendancy is spent trying to catch up to what an Elementalist or Raider gets BASELINE from the tree, you know, before 500% elemental damage or 50 frenzy charges?

Your pathing is also atrociously retarded, and you even miss out on the opportunity to max out a Fertile Mind jewel in the Duelist area, how retarded do you have to be to fuck up a tree where you only have to look up for INTELLIGENCE you stupid fucking troglodyte
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I want to play a blight cwc vortex or wither firestorm build but don't want to relevel another character on breach. What should I do
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>tfw all your "friends" havent been on for almost 2 weeks and didn't even get to 90 with you like they said they would
>they say they are busy with uni but you've found out they've been playign overwatch and rocket league all month without telling you
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this general would be better if you guys just ignored those retarded baits

also, dogs > cats
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Jesus Christ and he actually specced into Soul Raker

This HAS to be bait
I've seen players who started 1 week ago with a better understanding of game mechanics
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is there still a clan or whatever in poe, id love to read dank memes while im busy figuring out how to play this fucking game
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>>166475514
raider is a meme. berserker is better

poeurl.com/1iE

i got EO and more jewel slots
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>>166475514
underappreciated post desu
thanks for calling out faggots who have no idea on how ascendancies or simple build mechanics work
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>>166475880
>wanting to be in a clan with catposter and mitia
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Chaos Inoculation?

More like Skill Inoculation.
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>>166476471
Meme inoculation
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>developing all of PoE's content for THREE YEARS around a console port with a THREE DEV team

the desolate shanty town known as GGG right now
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>>166449525
Honestly currency autopickip would be amazing
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>>166449862
You're retarded dude
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how much are perandus coins worth each in bsc
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>>166477184
so would shitters who don't use a mouse properly, thus developing carpal tunnel and wanting game features to be casualized from said self inflicted defect, to all get together and neck themselves at once
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>>166477345
nobody even picks up wisdom/portal scrolls past a certain point anyway

If you do you're retarded, I just buy like 5k for 10c and be done with it and filter them out of my screen entirely

automatic pickup only saves me trading away 10-20c per league, who cares
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>>166476471
CI is literally what every lategame build should look like.
the pathing is just ideal, you get more healthpool with less skillpoints invested so you can build more damage/utility
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>it's another /poeg/ copies a streamer and thinks they're good episode

seen this one a million times
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>>166477581
actually in Strict mode you can just pick up Blacksmiths Whetstone, since they are more Scroll of Wisdoms for 1x1 inventoryspace
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>>166477301
He's right in the sense that the game would be better if balanced around SSF as if trade wasn't a thing but wrong in the sense that this allows two desired styles of play without sucking up countless hours balancing essentially two different games all while harmonizing with the concept of what SSF's routes are -- an admirable challenge for legit players. Making it all easier would remove the ability to try SSF and convert to trade later as it would be mandatory to play SSF first if drops were better. The compromise GGG made is rather ideal as it satisfies both camps. Buffed drop SSF is rather less appealing to both camps. D3 for example gearing is almost an afterthought it's so easy to gear up. And players don't tend to stick around as long.
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>>166471171
It always has been
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>>166473894
Retard
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>>166477872
>routes
*roots
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>go to an Asian friends house
>cute 8/10 girl, 21 years old
>her name is Howa
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>>166474790
Good for you, 14 year old
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>>166478035
Did you correct her parents?
HoWaA*
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>>166475693
Are your friends literally my friends
Are you me
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>>166478265
i told her that bitch is responsible for the economy being fucked so hard, fucking int stacking man
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>>166477684
I have never copied a build in my life, only took inspiration from it at best

haven't even looked at forum guides in the past 3 leagues
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>>166478035
It's a sign, Anon.
Get on that shit.
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>>166478035
you need to fuck the meta out of her
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o-okay
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>Player dings 99
>SSF rules are auto enabled on them
>Player can no longer group, trade or pick up items that did not drop for them
>There's a new "End Game" result on the party board
>Clicking this result shows a list of instances, cut-throat is enabled on them
>Other players can freely join this instance
>All level 99 players instances are automatically viewable from "End Game"
>Other players can freely enter 99 player map portals without using portal
>Other players cannot pickup loot or damage monster but can themselves be damages by all
>A third pvp only affix can be rolled on flasks that can be activated even when full on life
>A 99 player that reaches 100 receives a demi, an end game weapon in their honor and a top tier supporter pack
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Why do 90% of female NPCs have a name ending in 'a'

Nessa
Yeena
Helena
Catarina
Tora
Clarissa
Maramoa
Zana
Kira
Vanja

guy at GGG in charge of naming characters running a name generator or something?
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>>166478494
you took inspiration from the skilltrees for
-AoE fire spellcaster
-Melee AoE
-CI
-Crit CI
-Ranger tree

congrats you mongoloid
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>>166479279
sounds awful

having to rely on the mercy of others to ding 100?
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im right your wrong i win you lose im smart your dumb anti cutthroat shitter out ->
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>>166479518
I play none of those actually
would rather shoot myself than play Flameblast
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>literally only streamers gets FREE stuff for dinging 100

seems like the exact opposite of what you want
>>
whats the best, easiest and cheapest build for a witch?
i think my build is beyond salvageable on my lvl 50 witch.
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>>166479679
do you play a non-poison non-ignite build?
that makes you even more retarded
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>>166479604
>i'd rather it be expected of multiple players reaching 100 each league knowing this is directly against the game's design goals better yet i want them to be fed rmt'd maps and items so there's no challenge whatsoever beyond time lastly i play ASSFAGGOTS and i want GGG to make their game in such a way that ensures i spend less time in it and more time playing lol or wow

sooner you kys the better

>>166479773 (You)
gl with that streamer shits the bed when not fed maps/carried by support
>>
poeurl.com/1iQ

rate my flameblast totem build poeg!
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>>166479903
Poison is hardly something that can be chalked to a generic tree, unlike "AoE fire spellcaster" or "Crit CI", do you have any idea how many ways there are to poison those days? so you really don't have to copypaste anyone if you have a hint of imagination and like creating your own builds
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>>166479154
>Only 12% packsize
It's shit
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>>166480005
>gl with that streamer shits the bed when not fed maps/carried by support

you would only be encouraging that streamer to receive more support, since you would need a personal army on hand at all times

instead of killing myself, im going to continue living my life to the fullest
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>>166479849
Firestorm into Flameblast, carries you to yellow maps on a 4L. Level 50 is nothing, like 4-5 hours of gameplay.
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>>166480207
oh gee we have a new one, folks. however could they overcome this obstacle?
>player dmg vs other player is 1, vs 99 player is 100%

kys the sooner the better
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>>166479154
easy as FUCK
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>>166480347
ive needed 30+hrs for this char
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>>166480696
Why are you here
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>>166480768
because im a shitter :^)
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>>166480592
if you dont believe people would lvl to 99 just to protect their favorite streamers battle to 100 you are beyond delusional
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>>166480879
only the 99 instance creator takes damage, gains exp and loot
the other guy is essentially worthless as a protector/can only hurt the other 99

you on suicide watch right now
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try getting to level 100 once before you start fantasizing about some metagame you pathetic nerd
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genuinely looking forward to the elite new class of HC SSF players

it's a great way for GGG to avoid or mitigate the p2w debacle because trade tabs won't be needed

i'm surprised GGG is doing it because they know they will lose mountains of money
>>
so basically you created a 1 level gauntlet where the creator is pvp-flagged, however anyone else in the instance can only damage the pvp-flagged user

a task that is impossible to complete unless you are so popular that no one will fight you
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>>166481627
>genuinely looking forward to the elite new class of HC SSF players
you won't be part of it because you never learned to become better at the game on your own and rely on poe.trade to advance past cruel
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>>166481879
i won a demi in a SSF race a few years ago retard
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>>166481985
who did you play on your account? didn't know you could buy that
>>
reading comprehension doesn't require a 100, only few if ever were supposed to hit 100

my magnum opus game design is perfectly in harmony with the way PoE is supposed to be played rather than your xbox casual "game"/poop eating sim

>>166481783
the reward is worth it, you become immortalized but the challenge is more daunting than all others. 100 is supposed to be rewarding and nigh impossible, not a poopsock competition wowfags
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>>166481412
>>166480879

that entire idea and reasoning behind it is retarded

just go back to posting smug anime girls and discussing how fun the game will be on your xb1
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>I know how a game was supposed to be designed better than the game designers themselves
excellent meme my retarded little feline friend
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>>166482230
>he wants to ensure all streamers get immortalized

I guess the real truth here is that you feel they dont receive enough special treatment
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>>166482397

anyone born before 1995 is too old to understand how streamers give modern gaming a narrative that you can identify with and life through as if it was yourself. thats why streamers are important
>>
>>166482383 (You)
>that entire idea and reasoning behind it is retarded
counterpoint: no, it's not.

>>166482397 (You)
no streamers can reach 100 through legit self found, let alone while being hunted by other players. they should also add a decapitation animation to ct to make the kills more satisfying. the purpose of it is to block most players from ever reaching 100. only the true poe god will be able to and they'll have a top tier unique immortalizing their feat made in their honor.

my ideas are good yours are bad my thoughts are sound yours are muddied my intentions are pure yours are pure crap my penis is big yours is not
>>
go play wow like rejectpt if you like pvp that much rofl
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>>166482920
if you only enable the SSF portion at 99 what does it matter to a streamer, they will already be BIS by that point

>only the true poe god will be able to and they'll have a top tier unique immortalizing their feat made in their honor

you have zero understanding about how popularity contests work
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>>166483186
no man you don't understand, SSF with a personalized atlas and 500 shaped strands in stash is the hardest part of the road to 100, not the 98 previous levels you had to earn before on your own without trading, a support bitch or handouts

you just don't get it man
>>
>>166483186
because a pvp built player can be effective at level 80 vs a 99

it would give a player a goal to do before hitting 99: trade and overgear as much as humanely possible, respec to pvp build, etc. plus pvp flasks will change the whole dynamic.
>>
>cast on death max aoe firestorm
Streamers better fucking pay mad bux if they don't want me to rush to their body and allahu akbar it
>>
>a pvp only flask affix that blocks cast on death trigger dmg
done. any more failed counterpoints you'd like to sputter out ?
>>
stop replying to catshitter

you can only stoop to his level of stupidity
>>
the simple fact of the matter is mods like cut throat could have opened a world of gameplay but their development was abandoned not due to popularity or lack of possibility but because they only care about making poe xbox casual friendly for the past three years.
>>
the simple fact of the matter is that a competitive environment with a proper SSF ruleset has existed for many years in the form of races, something you've never competed in seriously, so don't give me that crap about the game being casualized when you were always a top tier casual in the first place - hypocrisy much?
>>
>he thinks winning demis vs shitters is impressive
nobody with any taste would take that shitfest seriously. had ggg actually developed races you'd have actual competition and something to brag about, shit eater
>>
poo
>>
not to mention 90% of races were won by hudders prior to anticheat update so almost all demis aren't legit
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>play a casual console game in a way it wasn't designed to be played on that just makes it more tedious so you can pretend its not a casual console game

/poeg/ everybody
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>excuse and conflate past three year xbox casual design decisions with original competitive nature of poe
you're the reason kripp left and your game is now for xbox casuals, shit eater
>>
get level 100 SSF HC and you can call the game casual

shopping for gear on poe.trade and copypasting a meta double dipping CI VP build does not make you a knowledgeable or skillful player, sorry.
>>
sure let me scrounge up playing 10 hours more per day like current lv100 poopsock pros and then i'll really be able to have a say even tho ggg already said 100 wasn't designed to be obtainable but is now thanks to xbox casuals
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>>166484867

>get to a trillion cookies/second on CookieClicker before you call it casual, scrub!!!
>>
>it's so easy, I could do it myself if I really wanted to
(You) watching the Olympics with your fat ass on the couch, a beer and an opened bag of chips in hand
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>>166484832
oh yea he left because of the game and not because of monetization of CasualStone and a controlling wifebitch..
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>>166485154
this is actually how wow poopsockers bait each other into their asspie way of life lol lmao
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>getting to 100 in poe is comparable to achieving the kind of athletic performance people train their entire lives for

found the ULTIMATE GGG fanboy
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>>166485348
he sought out alternative way of life because ggg devs utterly failed to evolve the meta for a long ass time. it was just kripp doing the exact same content for 20 hours per day every day
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reminder if you aren't playing HC SSF next league then you should really just leave poeg then honestly because you're way out of your league(literally)

only the elitest players are allowed to post here!
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Will PoeHUD be available on xbox1 ?
Exilebuddy ?
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what new ways will we find to deride players blogging about their achievements here if they accomplish it SSFHC
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>mfw the quality of this general
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>>166486161
no, but their mtx shop will include a ""premium UI""" with everything poehud has
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>>166486323
Why is she so perfect?
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>>166486241
identify the most OP ascendancies and builds for ssf

deride anyone using them
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>>166486241
> needing 5 flasks and a mouse to kill shaper

only real hardcore players kill shaper with a pad and 4 flasks
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>>166486241
XBONE - SSFHC - the patrician way to enjoy poe
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>>166486434
Out of our reach
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>>166486323
>>166486434

>lifetime of brain damage by animuu and these """people""" think humans with blobfaces are good looking
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>>166486462
what if they do it as a glacial hammer Scion
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>>166486497
more the THE ONLY WAY to enjoy console poe

with only 4 people worldwide playing it on launch, it may as well be forced ssf
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I wish endgame content was more accessible, but harder. What is the point of grinding for hours so we can enjoy a trivial 20 second boss fight... like nigga just let me fight a breachlord at any point, and make the wreck me if my progression is not up to it...
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>>166486607
This more to your liking?
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YOU KNOW WHAT I WISH FOR? YOU KNOOOW WHAT I WISH FOR? THE "RETURN TO TOWN" BUTTON BEING FURTHER AWAY FROM THE RESS AT CHECKPOINT BUTTON
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>>166486764
there is absolutely NOTHING even remotely interesting releasing on xbox1 this year beside PoE
and the game is FREE, so with a bit of hype (GGG giving money to some popular xbox1 streamers), it may be a success on xbox1
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>>166486607
post your gf
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>>166487043

see how the most powerful machine learning algorithms in the world dont even identify your rl moeblob as human
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I'd moe her blobs if you catch my drift
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>>166487043
That is a male by the way
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I'd racemix with that desu
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>>166487623
orly ?
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>>166487171
thing is, a few AAA titles are getting xbox release this year (like ME:A) and those will be big with the more casual crowd

then you get marvel heroes ALSO getting console release this year, and while also aimed at a more casual player, it has huge brand recognition already and is an arpg

then you have poe...
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>>166484195
it was abandoned because cutthroat gets boring as shit past an hour or two
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I'd like to interject for a second; Path of Exile, unlike those other titles you mentioned, is a FREE TO PLAY game and will NEVER be "Pay2Win" which instantly sets it apart from the competition
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>>166486997
What is the point of the "normal" game when all content before endgame and a working build is dogshit nobody likes doing?
What is the point of anything when 99% of the game is a snoozefest and the rest 1% is randomly occuring instagib artificial meme difficulty?
What is the point of playing melee when you are able and it's necessary to have as much defenses on a ranged build, with the added benefit of waltzing through the non- gear check number comparing contest encounters that are result of enemy gap closers and/or small boss room bawkses full of minions and aoe?
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>>166487171
how many xbone owners actually sub to gold? gotta pay to play poe online. i know a lot of x360 owners did but xbone is no where near as popular
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>>166487950
it gets boring as shit because they stopped evolving the meta to focus on xbox casuals instead
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>>166488048
mh is f2p and also is in the same "not p2w" category since all real money gets you is more inventory space and cosmetics

and you still need gold sub to play "f2p" games

plus paying for games is nothing for people who buy into the whole console eco
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>>166488289
except mh is on ps4 where f2p games don't require ps+, xbone requires gold
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>getting instagibbed by neets is an """"""evolved""""" meta
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>pvp flask affixes would be literally impossible to create, i have the iq of an rock
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>>166488289
>plus paying for games is nothing for people who buy into the whole console eco
not sure about that at all

rocket league became popular when releasing as a FREE ps+ game

playstation home was FREE on ps3, and a huge success (not widely popular,but sony made a lot of bucks on it)
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>why have challenging content when this pvp-flaskâ„¢ just trivializes the concept again
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>one shot fest is challenging but well rolled, properly time anti pk buffs is not a challenge
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>flasks need to be "properly timed" to be effective

just one more thing to spam during shaped strand
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>playing is just clicking a button
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>>166488836
>>166488939
>>166489020


you can just ahk flask triggers on mana use / life globe changes

yes if you are a macrolord, poe is just a walking sim
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>>166488057
Yes
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>>166489090
that's why a xbox1 version was needed
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>>166489090
pvp buffs are applies prior to receiving dmg; scripts are almost entirely detrimental and must be properly timed
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How difficult is Chayula relative to Uul Netol? I killed Uul in about 5 seconds, but I dipped below 18 seconds on the timer a few times when I got confused which way was forwards and which was a dead end. Is Chayula breach worse about that?
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>>166489319

is there is at ANY point a change in your char's life (or es), flasks of your choice go off. in addition you can set up a conditional to spam your vgrace/vdisc key

when there is at any point a change in your mana (or es), flasks of your choice go off

no need to time anything
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been away, we more pissed about xbox, shitcrows or the current dead league now?
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>>166489756
xbox1 officially became the savior of the game versus bots, macros, poe.trade and PoEHUD
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>>166489756

WE LOVE THE XBOX RELEASE

GAME IS BETTER THAN EVER
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>>166489687
easily solved problem. pvp flask affixes only activate on holding key for 1 second; don't regen without attacking a player. or only activate on key combo eg shift + 1. or any other number of ways to get around any counter to my point you could possibly post, which i already considered long before the idea entered your mind.
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>>166489875
except modded scripted console controllers have been a thing for quite some time now

whether they'll be a thing for any game comes down to whether anyone plays it
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>>166490084

macros can do any form of key presses and combinations

its not even funny you are this oblivious to this reality of competitive gaming that has been going on since forever
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>>166489756
SSF league is the new hot meme.
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>>166490219
>except modded scripted console controllers have been a thing for quite some time now

on old hardware yes
on a ps4/xbox1, never seen any
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>>166490219
those cant read the screen tho

big part of the utility of pc gaming macros comes from reading screen pixels or even looking for certain sprites/test
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>>166490251
yes your macro does it for you then your charges are used up as they will only regen on attacking a player

your macro does it on taking dmg? too late you died

competitive gaming has only done a poor job of addressing easily solvable issues so that's possibly the worst example you could give
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>>166489665
yes
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>>166488281
retards like you was why we had a "pvp season" that basically killed a dev cycle
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>>166490380
lol the xbone elite controller literally supports this

they went from being in obscurity to first party support
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>>166490449

you can simply set a different treshold level for pvp flasks, assuming players will do more damage than a squid in your strand map

either on mana or life, assuming engaging a player results in different patterns of resource usages than the aforementioned squid

pretty sure ill be able to game your "ssf l100" gamemode once it came live (which it never will). been doing this on games with far more complex pvp than poe
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post T H I C C maps
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>>166490449
The fuck you smoking niggga? If you put a 1 sec delay on flask use that would hurt legit players more than macroers. It'd literally destroy the usefulness of flasks as a reactionary life saving measure

You're dumb as hell
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>poe
>pvp
just end your life now lad
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>>166490905
only on PC or even on xbox1 ?
the whole fucking point of having a console is to configure nothing

never touched a xbox1, so have no idea
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>>166490892
nope i've always said arena pvp should not be a priority unless cutthroat takes off.

>>166490909
no you can't because you need to apply them before getting hit and your pvp charges do not regen except on attacking a player.

ive already thoroughly considered anything you can post. scripts would always be a giant disadvantage.
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>>166490978
shift + 1 takes no appreciable amount more time. some affixes could be "on hold" as well with no detriment. learn to read then try again or don't post preferably.
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>>166491042
>http://www.xbox.com/en-ca/xbox-one/accessories/controllers/elite-wireless-controller
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>people confused about the differences between a macro and literally just full on cheating


One button press that uses a multiple number of flasks = macro

Automatically using flasks when you take damage or for any other reason = cheating
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>>166490952
>ice golem
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>>166491104
>no you can't because you need to apply them before getting hit

While i dont see why it needs to be ONLY before getting hit (its unlikely a properly geared player will get 1 shot at that point), if there is ANY visual cue to distinguish a player from a random ai exile, that could be used to trigger a macro

and if there isnt, poesmoother can fix that
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>>166491352

both are macros. some macros are just more cheaty than others.
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>>166491335
> you need to buy a 150$ controller to remap keys on xbox1
> it's FREE on ps4

PoE released on xbox1 : pay2win confirmed
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>>166491353
>capped accuracy
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>>166491386
1. your dmg mitigation without flasks isn't enough so it must be applied prior to taking any

2. your script would be gamed by a player rapidly entering/exiting screen/distance. your pixel bot would fuck you outta your charges. if you make the radius closer you risk the player attacking you before it goes off. manual control can easily time these things, a script can't even come close.


anything you can possibly post ive thoroughly and easily countered.
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>>166491246
Read the first sentence you wrote about a 1 second delay you turd.

Do you have alzheimers or fucking what?

> pvp flask affixes only activate on holding the key for 1 second

Never reply to me or my son ever again
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>>166491603
That's not a macro you dumb fuck it's LITERALLY zero input to get the game to do something to save your life

There's no macro involved retard
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>>166491902
ok dumbo but i gave two different methods but you, as per the usual, skipped asking how each one would be used. obviously affixes that need immediate use would be a button combo. an "on hold" one could be like a 1 second power buff, or something.
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>>166491834

the macro doesnt care "radius", but about the duration of the trigger

and i can tell that this duration has to be exactly over 350ms, which is current built-in hard cooldown between spamming a movement skill and when your next attack skill goes off

this console game has been figured out by botters / macro devs already, LONG before you even came up with your latest bad idea
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>>166492294
>the macro doesnt care "radius", but about the duration of the trigger
then it won't work and i already explained why
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>>166492137
A button combo has no effect on the use of a macro.
Fuuuuuuuuuck yooooooooooooou
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>>166492058
there is input, kid

just not input directly made by you.
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>>166490358
like, the apparently non functional ladder that people tried to push at the start of Breach or some imaginary shit that ggg would never spend a dime implementing?
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>>166492423
it will, because for a player to do anything it has to be in your visual reach for an amount of time. if never stays around long enough, the macro never goes off, and if it somehow manages to make you trigger your flasks without engaging you, you just portal back to h/o to refill them.

its that simple
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>>166492487
I hate to break it to you anon...
>https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1823776
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>>166492464
a macro can activate a button combo, gee, it's amost like no one is saying differently

what a macro can't do is intelligently not waste your charges automatically
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idea: only SSF HC players are allowed to share their opinions
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>>166492775
> flask effect duration is unknowable
> so is tracking of flask charges

Why am I bothering
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>>166492718
radius just like i said. cutthroat rules means you can't instantly port back. a player will trigger your macro over and over until no charges left, then whale on you. at best a macro gives no advantage, at worst it leaves you defenseless. in any case it's not a counter to pvp flasks in any way. stop posting.
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>>166492903
why only allowing retards expressing their opinions ?
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>>166492760
woah, im back in. best indie garage band producing a BSOD simulator in oceania
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>>166493006
nope its not radius

its simply how long the trigger is around. macros can not only act on trigger position but on trigger duration

and i already told you the minimum duration said triggers needs to have for a player to engage you

the kind of engagement is solvable already by an algorithm unless GGG drastically changes implicit cooldowns and the game becomes a lot faster than it already can be
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>>166492956
both of these work against a scripter. a player would trigger your script, leaving you with zero charges. at best a script gives zero advantage.
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>>166493012
want to make sure your voice is heard
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what's a good SSF Scion build
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>>166493227
like i mentioned here >>166493213

at best a script completely predicts engagement patterns based on trigger durations

you are clueless if you believe otherwise
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>>166493338
ED
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>>166493213
and how exactly do you get more charges when i clearly said they don't restore without attacking another _player_ ? you aren't even coming remotely close to contending with this gaping hole in hour script's logic, where any player will easily set off/waste your charges before attacking.

furthermore poe has antiscript detection so a 99 player which is now the center of attention better hope the devs are more ignorant than ggg devs
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>>166493478

I cant tell if you truly have no idea on how scripts work or if you are just b8ing at this point.

A player wont waste your charges unless he engages you, and the script can tell it is engaging you given on the duration the trigger is around. At this point its on you to either kill it or run.

and poe has no antiscript, or even antibotting. this is not something that is a secret or even an obscure fact tbqh
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>>166493391
say you have 3 pvp flask charges per flask

how does your script not waste them?

1. script has to apply the buff before player takes damage or get oneshot

how then does the script decide to apply the buff? duration comes after the fact. the script must detect the player and it must not apply the buff too soon or your protection will wear off.

if you make the radius far away, the player will simply run away, wasting your charges. remember: you must attack the other player to replenish them.

if you make the radius close, you risk it not activating quick enough and getting one shot

the buffs only last a short time, 5 secs maybe and are predicated upon attacking the other player in order to use them again

your script just buttfucked you outta your charges. now what? you got nothing. quit posting.
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>>166493716
poe has both and bot forums are routinely filled with ban complaints. it would be particularly ez for them to hone in on lv99 cheaters since they're a comparatively small amount not that they'd need to. your script is utterly worthless and generally detrimental to you.
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>Take freeze spell
>Stand out side of low level area in PvP league
>Nobody can progress
>Victory
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>>166494124
>ill just tell my dad

if how you beat my script is by telling GGG im being mean to you, i already won. i proven the engagement can solved this way

>>166493925
>radious

lmoa

think of timings. i told you like 40 times already. and if an attacked tries to game timings, he is also putting himself at risk from you, specially if you are ranged
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>>166494360
quit posting retard
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retards calling others retard

/poeg/
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Why are we even discussing this shit? The entire idea of forced SSF and one-way cutthroat ONLY at level 99->100 is retarded
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>died once like a true shitter
I should get better gear, 62 ES gloves just don't cut it
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>>166494417

you never came even close to present a situation that couldn't be programatically solvable, even while inventing new mechanics out of your ass

still waiting tho.
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>>166494531
YOU POSTED THIS SAME SCREENIE YESTERDAY ALREADY YOU REPEATING FUCK
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>>166494360
>he is also putting himself at risk from you, specially if you are ranged
being ranged changes nothing. answer how your script decides when to first apply the buff. however this decision is made is objectively inferior to deciding yourself since a player is going to find out and do the opposite.
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>tfw build going well fb slayer
>did Mercedes izaro
>first time hitting level 75
>decide to run a 13% physical reflection
>no warning just instant death from 5.5k :-P
Feel so burned out kinda tempted to keep char and just go soft ore to experience the content.
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>>166494531
die a hundred more times it doesnt make a difference and no one here cares.go back to where your kind are welcome
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>>166494531
Here's your you shitcrow, get the fuck out of this general
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>>166494517
>The entire idea of forced SSF and one-way cutthroat ONLY at level 99->100 is retarded
Counterpoint: No, it's not.
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I literally haven't notice any performance improvement with the last year or so (but haven't gotten worse), anyone else the same?
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>>166495171
build a new pc pleb
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>>166494713

>being ranged changes nothing

playing trying to game your macros will need to stay in your periphery longer than if he is just zipping pas you as fast as possible. this gives you time to engage with ranged shit, this effectively acts in your favour

>>166494713
>answer how your script decides when to first apply the buff.

when it deems that the trigger has been positive long enough (minimum 350ms, but likely more, im guessing 500ms would be better) to register as a positive engagement
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>>166495268
Why? Performance hasn't gotten worse or better is what I'm saying. Besides minor stutter when I use Abyssal Cry on the very early Breach with Beyond mod, my gameplay's pretty smooth. I was hoping the performance increase would finally fix those minor qualms but nope.
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>>166495319
>when it deems that the trigger has been positive long enough (minimum 350ms, but likely more, im guessing 500ms would be better) to register as a positive engagement
You have, yet again, failed to explain when your script will first apply the buff. Adding a sensitivity only makes things worse for you. If it's not an instant then a player will one shot you before your script decides to react. It's a matter of how near/far the other player is and neither way is better than not using a script as both are easilg game'd by a player.
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Any good cheap fast clearing caster builds ?
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>let's implement this new game mode where succeeding is literally only possible if the community allows it

oh well at least when ziz swings his big lvl100 demigod dick around, catshitter won't be able to derail his accomplishment
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>>166495482
my 6600k 390x build runs poe at max at 60+ fps in full parties
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>>166495826
I don't lag in full party either without Abyssal Cry, what's your point?
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all my life i wanted to be #1 in an xbox casual farm sim poopsock contest rather than in a proper game that stuck to the dev's vision
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>>166495635

you have my 87 year old grandma's understanding of modern computing

i told you exactly how the script will decide when to flask or start to do anything pvp-wise

i told that radious doesnt matter, but timings, because a player fiddling around your screen, no matter distance, is also automatically vulnerable to you. as far as you are concerner, you are engaged at this point.

BUT for a player to activate a skill that is not a movement skill in your periphery (or right in front of you), there is an obligate hard cooldown inherent to the game engine.

This gives you a script running on any modern computer (made after 2004) a universe of time to react. They run so fast that you have to slow them down into more discrete timings (when you see people adding arbitrary cooldowns to scripts, its often because of this reason)
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>>166496105
i don't see what you're complaining about then
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>>166496248
your explanation = a script that's as effective as a very bad/slow player

at which point nobody gives a shit: your script isn't helping you unless you're far worse than any decent player
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>>166496375
your comprehension of desktop automation = null

i can see why you believe macros/scripts wouldn't work well, and it is because you believe they register things at a somewhat human speed.

its hilarious someone has this '70s mindset in current year, but i guess there is a reason some schools still offer "computing courses" for old people
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the only thing more stupid than a shitcrow is a shitcrow that doesn't use a logout macro
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>>166496725
1. You'll somehow be able to mitigate the other advantage of the other player with a script + ranged character.

Answer: Wrong. The way pvp flasks will work is you have three charges. They do not regenerate except after attacking a player 'x' amount of times, or inflicting 'x'% of their health or any other condition deemed fitting to counter your retard script.

In order for your script to provide these charges, it must attack the other player in some way. So if you're ranged then you need to be able to reliably hit the other player. If you're much further than a screen's distance, the other player is going to be very difficult to hit without them easily dodging your attacks. If you're within a screen's distance, they can, within a blink of an eye, hit you with either a very quick movement skill -> melee or ranged attack/spell/damage dealer.

In order for your script to react it's going to have to "see" the player. How will your script see the player? You said radius is irrelevant. Somehow it will "time" the player without seeing them? Let's just assume you're fucking retarded since that makes no sense and instead assume you have at least an elementary concept of how scripts work. So what I do as a player and not a script then is enter your screen's distance -> your script goes off -> quickly move away. Rinse and repeat until your charges are gone, wait apx 2.5 seconds, pop back in and fuck you up. You have no charges, I have three, you hope to hit me to regain some charges, fail, your buff runs out and you're dead.

2. Okay so since a screen's distance doesn't work, you reduce the radius before the script attacks. Great! Only now I see your buff not applying at screen distance and gib you from a screen's distance before your buff even goes off.

3. Any sensitivity you add to your script works inversely to my advantage: more time for me to fuck you over.

You have provided no counter nor any even remotely plausible counter to these scenarios.
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that's a lot of autism for mechanics you just made up
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>>166479427
Vinia
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Any good trappers guides around?
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>>166497349
>If you're within a screen's distance, they can, within a blink of an eye, hit you with either a very quick movement skill -> melee or ranged attack/spell/damage dealer.

This is proof #1 that you are retard. As i told you many times before, there is exist a cooldown betwen your movement skill's ending frame and the activation of any other skill. This is enforced by the game engine. Botters have documented this extensively. What you call "blink of an eye", is really 350-400ms, with up to 600ms depending on build, literally a universe of time for a macro.

Proof #2:
>In order for your script to react it's going to have to "see" the player.

scripts work at the frame buffer level, and it processes pixel faster than even your monitor's refresh rate

>your script goes off -> quickly move away. Rinse and repeat until your charges are gone

proof #3. your further ignore how timings work

Proof #4
>Okay so since a screen's distance doesn't work, you reduce the radius before the script attacks.

You still insist on distance-based triggering. This is how a human mind works because our concept of time is fuzzy, but scripts can count time in the millionths of a second-basis so simply using timings to predict engagement is a lot more efficient.

Proof #5
>Any sensitivity you add to your script works inversely to my advantage

You believe a player will be static and doing nothing while you attempt to "fool" his script.

Your tremendous ignorance on how modern computing works only reveals deep-seated clues to your mental dysfunction.

Seek help from a professional care taker.
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>>166497904
shit ascendancy class
no single target
mana starvation
slow because you have to rely on the traps to arm and trigger instead of oneshotting them
no real defenses
traps are gay

That being said 2xconsuming dark and that frost vortex trap thing seems to be doing alright.
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>>166498203
>slow because you have to rely on the traps to arm and trigger instead of oneshotting them
Instead of oneshotting mobs with shit like Blade Flurry*
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>>166498176
>This is proof #1 that you are retard.
Nothing you posted is proof of anything other than you spouting milliseconds while completely and utterly failing to apply it to any remotely believable pvp scenario. A movement skill takes xxx ms? I HAVE THOSE MS TOO RETARD. Your script doesn't remove inherent time skills take. This is in no way, shape or form an advantage to a script in fact it inherently works as a DISADVANTAGE because you must also add this time on top of the time it takes for your script to parse everything.

>scripts work at the frame buffer level, and it processes pixel faster than even your monitor's refresh rate
Absolutely meaningless drivel. Your script can be as fast as humanely possible and still be easily set off by triggering its how it "sees" the other player repeatedly, then kill your dumb ass. You will never ever be able to counter this point because it's a fact. kys retard.

>proof #3. your further ignore how timings work
Yes timings dictate that your script has to react to something, that something is exactly what a human player can easily set off/disrupt, making you an easier kill unless you're the most absolute worst shitter alive. In which case you'd only be almost as good as a good player.

>You still insist on distance-based triggering. This is how a human mind works because our concept of time is fuzzy, but scripts can count time in the millionths of a second-basis so simply using timings to predict engagement is a lot more efficient.
There's no insistence. Your script has to see me. Your script has to apply the buff before getting hit. It's only choices then are to waste all your charges immediately or waste them when seeing me. In either case your script at best provides no advantage but usually is an extreme disadvantage.
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>I'm gonna use Demon Lord Blast, you are dead now
>no I'm not, I have Demon Lord Blast mirror that deflects the damage back to you, and now you are dead
>no I teleported behind you
>no I teleported behind you
>*it's a hologram*
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>>166498203
Fine then what's a good cheap es build sick of life builds and totems.
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>>166499226
Essence Drain Trickster
Essence Drain Occult bitch
Blight?
CwC Wither + [fire skill] with 2x consumind dark
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>>166498918
>Your script can be as fast as humanely possible

proof #6

as i mentioned earlier, you believe scripts are only somewhat as fast as as a human

>>166498918
>Your script has to see me.
proof #7: You can't fathom that a trigger can be positive for a duration before action is to be taken.

Reading your """"replies""" just make me ashamed of modern education.
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btw im done replying to your retarded made up gamemode that will never exist anyway. continue living in your dreamworld where humans are anywhere competitive automation on any reflex-based endeavor
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>>166499424
>as i mentioned earlier, you believe scripts are only somewhat as fast as as a human
HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

The ability to parse a concept "faster than human understanding" is an oxymoron or more aptly put, a square circle, absolute hogwash. A human has to create the conditions to be faster than human reaction time however in this case reacting faster than a human =/= better than a human as you actually want your script to go off *WHEN YOURE BEING ATTACKED* and not whichever shitbird scheme you input in your script, which objectively cannot account for the fact the opposing player, if not full retard, will notice you're using a script and trip it until your charges are gone and you're more vulnerable than had you not ran it.

>proof #7: You can't fathom that a trigger can be positive for a duration before action is to be taken.
You add a sensitivity to the script's trigger = more time for me to sneak in and fuck you up. You're getting fucked up, take your pick, either way your script is a disadvantage to all but those most laughable shitters alive.
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> "ennemies cannot leech life from you"

most useless affix ?
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Scholars from /poeg/, which one is the best?

6k life and ~850k DPS, or
7.5k life and ~400k DPS.

Basically, it boils down to either wearing a 6-linked chest with life or running Kaom's heart.

Keep in mind I'm melee[/melee]
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>>166499914
Great for PVP. Other than that, meh.
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>>166500539
>life
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>>166500684
ok
strangely enough, I always forget that PVP is a thing in PoE
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whens 2.6.0 drop?
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>>166500974
next xbox live update
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> 20q gem recipe doesn't work on vaal gems

why ?
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>>166501246
it doesn'?
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>>166491335
>>166491606
>$40 steam controller supports that and then some
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>>166499642
>implying humans are competitive
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>>166501305
doesn't work on my lv20 vaal cyclone
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>>166501327
t.Communist pro
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>>166499914
increased damage while frozen
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>brexit
>trump
>SSF

memes really do come true
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>bricked a lvl3 empower
>wasted 1000 fuse
today was a bad day
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>>166497349
>>166498176
>>166498918
>>166499775
tl;dr
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is it early march yet?
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>>166500539

at 400k dps you are alreadying clearing everything near-instantly

if that damage is """effective""" as in, the baseline even debuffed (if you can be debuffed), you are perfectly safe since nothing will live long and a volatile wont dent your health unless you are on a -resist map
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>>166501323
steam controller sucks ass
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>already theorycrafted a couple of 2M+ dps, SSF, virtually-indestructible builds

>ready to shit all over /poeg/ tradebabbies

>ready to dominate this game (again)

i just wish something was even a little bit challenging
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>>166503476
In what way?
It comes standard with paddle buttons, something most controllers lack. It has good configuration. The only issue is that a few games might benefit more from a second thumbstick than a touchpad.
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*farts loudly near catposter*
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>>166503536
you're the best catposter!
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>mfw reading all the autism above
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what's maximum amount of slow effects possible?

Lets say:
- Temporal Chains
- Cold damage (Freeze or Chill)
then what?
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>>166503162
The issue a lot of players have in this game is that they refer to their tooltip (or calculated) dps as the be-all and end-all metric any build should be judged as, completely disregarding "500k" dps is not the same whether you're melee or ranged and how fast or consistently you can apply it in most situations, i.e. 250k consistetn DoT/s is obviously better than 500k when you only have a window of 1s of dps every 5s

Most white/blue trash even t15/t16s doesn't have much more than 50k life, so getting anything above is not going to help you outshieldcharge a VSparker Inquisitor or outclear a LA Raider
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>>166503602
i havent used a gamepad since 1999

im gonna get one just to see what all the fuzz is about
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wait for them to go on sale
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>>166503602
its as fast and accurate as a laptop trackpad and uncomfortable. i'd seriously consider playing poe on pc on xbone controller over it.

consider that literally no one uses one to play dota 2 competitively. it shouls tell you something.

and yes i own one, it sits in closet unused.
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>>166503936
depends what you mean by slow

slower monster animation or "true slow": temporal chains and chill only

slower monster movement speed: abyssal cry, wither, tar ground, maim, bear trap (lol)
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>>166504128
>its as fast and accurate as a laptop trackpad
So, still more accurate for FPS than a thumbstick because of the fact that it converts motion to motion, rather than position to velocity like a thumbstick.
>consider that literally no one uses one to play dota 2 competitively
Nobody uses any fucking controller to play dota 2 competitively, what kind of argument is that?
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>>166503936

Hinder
tar ground
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>>166503936
Freeze is already a 100% slow
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>>166503946
>they refer to their tooltip dps as the be-all and end-all metric
nobody does this
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>>166504394
i know but I'm trying to see just how many layers of speed reduction I could effortlessly apply. Temporal chain can be permanently ON, cold damage could provide the chilling and freezing but most bosses dont freeze very long. Thanks for the info guys
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>>166504486
They do implicitly when they just give a number like that ("I have 500k dps melee") without any indication of the skill used, as if you just need a magic dps number to reach to make your Heavy Strike build viable, it doesn't work that way
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>>166504590
>temp chains

curses get all kind of fucked on maps these days

not only do bosses have a global curse effectiveness malus, but map themselves can gimp your curses by half or more

i wouldnt rely on it
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>>166504262
>still more accurate for FPS than a thumbstick
Wrong.
>because of the fact that it converts motion to motion, rather than position to velocity like a thumbstick
Gross oversimplification and irrelevant. Trackpads aren't accurate unless the input source is extremely fine point, like a stylus.

An analog stick can be made to be much more accurate than you'd imagine by tuning it correctly. They usually have far too much smoothing and and large deadzones. You can use antimicro to a controller easily as accurate as a steam controller, without using that hideously awkward piece of trash.
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>>166504731
It's sarcasm.
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>>166504958
>Trackpads aren't accurate unless the input source is extremely fine point
Wrong, because a trackpad doesn't care about absolute position, only movement. A touchscreen, yes, a trackpad, no.
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>>166503536
What you used in the past to get an edge over other players in a non-SSF league:
RMT, trading, buying boss kills, copypasting meta builds

What you won't be able to use to get an edge over other players in a SSF league:
RMT, trading, buying boss kills, copypasting meta builds

SSF will expose you as the shitter you truly are, you'll quit within the first week or are just shitposting, nothing new here
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>>166504837
do you come from some tabletop rpg or something? you almost never see anyone refer to the opposite of bonus as malus instead of simply "penalty"
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>>166505150

You have never known domination as you will do when SSF gets in and i have my way with this game.

Mark my words, shitbird.
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>>166505147
>Wrong, because a trackpad doesn't care about absolute position, only movement. A touchscreen, yes, a trackpad, no.
This really isn't accurate. The stylus still matters. A trackpad could function this way. I was posting it to make a point about the input method. Reading your thumb/finger as a source, detecting angular differences in it to determine a movement is never ever going to be as accurate as a fine tipped stylus.

Anyway,

Here's PoE on xbox controller on PC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p12cXce4EBI

Here's PoE on steam controller on PC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkWPz2aDkH0

Any questions?
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>>166505150
i already won a SSF demi retard
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>>166505365

no. anyone born before 1995 just happened to learn more words than you gen y'ers did
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>>166505484
What is this supposed to prove? The guy said he had only been using the steam controller for a couple hours, not nearly enough to get used to it if you've been using an xbox controller for years. On top of that, he's praising the steam controller.
>detecting angular differences in it to determine a movement is never ever going to be as accurate as a fine tipped stylus
Correct, but the issue here is whether it's better or worse than a thumbstick.
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>>166505649
language is used as tool of communication

it doesn't matter if you have your own stuck-up vocabulary if no one gets your point or if it distracts from it, in the case of the opposite of bonus, "penalty" works a lot better than "malus" which is unnecessarily pretentious

look mom, I use latin words
>>
who here has been playing ssf since the beginning because of autism?
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>>166503162
I want to run two skills, one for clearing maps and the other for clearing bosses.

Since I'll dual wield one handed weapons, I cannot spare enough slots for both of them. The clearing skill will have 4 links (since white and blue mobs die with a sneeze), while the main skill will benefit from more slots.

All that DPS comes mostly from sustained, poison damage. And the funny thing is, I do not rely on double dipping, so I don't expect my build to be that nerfed next league.
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>>166505912
I played on both sides of the fence, am a 99% Solo and 50% SF player those days
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>>166503936
Hindering, Abyssal Cry, Covered in Ashes
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>>166505863
>What is this supposed to prove? The guy said he had only been using the steam controller for a couple hours, not nearly enough to get used to it if you've been using an xbox controller for years
That even a total noob can use an xbox controller as well as a steam controller. At which point: why the fuck use one? It's one of the most uncomfortable controllers I've ever used. I'd rather use an nes controller than steam one. It's the most vile dogshit I've ever used.

>On top of that, he's praising the steam controller.
And sucks ass with it. Casual shitter who sucks at video games and barely appears to know what they're doing loves something? Funny how there are literally no videos of end game mapping on steam controller. Just like no videos of competitive dota 2. Just like everything else because it's a piece of shit, worse than a laptop trackpad I'd argue.

>Correct, but the issue here is whether it's better or worse than a thumbstick.
No it's not. It's whether it's *better* than one. It's not. It's fucking awful and as good as a thumbstick when perfectly tuned *at best*. A perfectly tuned thumbstick ain't half bad and you can choose form far more ergonomic controllers. And get a chatpad rather than that shitty steam software keyboard that requires steam running to use.

Steam controller makes me want to punch someone in the face it's so awful. Fuck it's shit.
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>>166505875

>bonus, malus are ""stuck up""" latin words no one gets

wow, really impressed with you postmillenials

i guess ill try to use simpler words, because simpler == gooder, right?
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>>166506271
>That even a total noob can use an xbox controller as well as a steam controller.

im not even that guy but if you look a the video, that is not a total noob as he is using a 3rd party tool to configure pointer range movement and to "attack in place" with one button. all this needs tweaking and testing to setup
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>>166506305
What was the cogency of this post? or of your existence for that matter? You're being imbecilic.
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>>166506684
moran. every nigga uses the word malus.
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>>166506553
Well he's doing atziri with an xbox controller. Number of steam controller use videos doing atziri: none.

I've literally seen not a single video of anyone doing anything impressive on a steam controller. It's fucking shit and feels awful to use.

So let's see here which to choose:

comfy xbox controller that supports almost every game that supports a controller that works just as well as a steam controller for pc games

horridly uncomfy steam controller, feels like a giant stone in your hands, awful to configure, no better aim than stick, no videos of anyone doing anything with it over a regular controller, doesn't support almost any controller games natively, requires steam running to use properly

fuck you gotta be retarded to choose steam controller
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>>166506828
https://www.pathofexile.com/search/results/penalty/search-within/forumposts
270 result pages

https://www.pathofexile.com/search/results/malus/search-within/forumposts
5 result pages
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>>166506961
>comfy

i keep hearing this. but as someone who didnt grow up playing consoles past the original PS, all controlers except the modern ps ones feel awkward as fuck to use

>>166507074

>being this angry because an anon forced him to learn a new world

kek
>>
new map where
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>>166507289
there's a lot of ps vs xbox fanboyism centered around the controller. they're both heaps beyond the steam controller in comfy.

trackpads on it alone feel awful. i would only give that thing to my worst enemy.
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>>166504837
just wanted to say thanks (I'm the one who asked, not the other guy who is sperging about words).

So speaking of bosses resit curses, do they resist any other impairing effect as well? Of course they have such a large hp pool that they resist being frozen for a good duration. What about abyssal cry and the like?
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>>166506271
>It's one of the most uncomfortable controllers I've ever used
Subjective opinion
>And sucks ass with it
He's only used it for a couple hours. On any game, ever. Something tells me the first few hours you used an analog stick, you probably weren't great with it either.
> It's fucking awful and as good as a thumbstick when perfectly tuned *at best*
Where is your proof of this? They're fundamentally different input methods (motion>motion vs position>motion at least in the case of FPS). For one, a touchpad places no upper bound on velocity you can aim at, but a thumbstick allows unlimited motion in one direction without resetting. They're good and bad for different situations, but a touchpad is generally going to be better for aiming because it allows for both precise slow movements and quick twitchy movements.
For PoE you don't even need precise aiming to begin with so I'm not sure how the conversatoin even got to this point. If the only thing the Xbox controller has over the steam controller for PoE is "it's more comfortable" then that hardly justifies a $189 pricetag.
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>>166507074
poe forums sure are a great cross-section
>>
*doesnt make new thread*
hehehe
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>>166507697
>do they resist any other impairing effect as well?

yes, some. and whatever arbitrary immunity they have is generally right there under their health bar
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>>166507762
>Subjective opinion
No it's not subjective that compared to every first party controller on the market the face buttons are distanced oddly from the stick/pads making the uncomfortable to reach one or the other, that the triggers are shit and it's bigger and bulkier than all else. Any human being with small -> above average sized hands will say it feels like shit unless they're a shit eating casual or just plain shit at vidya and know no better.

>He's only used it for a couple hours. On any game, ever. Something tells me the first few hours you used an analog stick, you probably weren't great with it either.
I haven't seen anyone do anything impressive with it ever.

>For one, a touchpad places no upper bound on velocity you can aim at, but a thumbstick allows unlimited motion in one direction without resetting. They're good and bad for different situations, but a touchpad is generally going to be better for aiming because it allows for both precise slow movements and quick twitchy movements.
No, everyone you posted is wrong. It's dogshit.

Check out this devil daggers video on xbox controller on pc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVzEqnvb3V0

This is a good litmus test for if you had any clue what you're posting about. An untrained eye won't know what they're looking at but it's pretty clear to see quick and precise sweeping movements on a fucking analog stick.

That's all on a controller that's objectively more comfy than steamshit controller, works in any game unlike steam controller and has its own hardware chatpad and doesn't require steam to use.

>If the only thing the Xbox controller has over the steam controller for PoE is "it's more comfortable" then that hardly justifies a $189 pricetag.
lolwut? xbone controller is cheap and you configure it with antimicro. fuck your stupid no wonder you're shilling that disaster.
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let poeg die
>>
Someone actually tried out life based drill neck + decay bow trickster ?
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>>166509298
>quick and precise sweeping movements
And still less quick than they would be on an input method that isn't bound to some maximum value. At no point does he do any "quick" aiming there.
>lolwut? xbone controller is cheap and you configure it with antimicro. fuck your stupid no wonder you're shilling that disaster.
If you were following the original conversation you'd see the discussion was about MS making a $189 controller with paddles and a built in mapper.
>works in any game unlike steam controller
Name a game that doesn't work with the steam controller even with an input mapper. I'm not trying to use this as an argument, I'm genuinely curious.
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>>166509742
it has been done since essence league
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>>166509849
>And still less quick than they would be on an input method that isn't bound to some maximum value.
Furthermore aim speed is not bound to the stick it's bound to what it's set at in game. Fucking hell you're dumber than a bag of rocks. Things like speed, acceleration and smoothing can all be configured in game or in antimicro.

>At no point does he do any "quick" aiming there.
Yes that's exactly what it is and fucking amazing at that. Show me the steam controller doing better. You can't. Things garbage brah.

>If you were following the original conversation you'd see the discussion was about MS making a $189 controller with paddles and a built in mapper.
don't care as any controller works for your arguments.

>Name a game that doesn't work with the steam controller even with an input mapper.
xbox controller works OOTB with nearly every controller supported PC game steam controller nearly EVERY SINGLE GAME will require configuring with steam's elder SHIT TIER big picture mode interface and require steam running to do so.

Why one earth would you buy a controller that doesn't even work with games, is shit to use, requires steam and offers literally not one single tangible advantage over the competition?

Fuck you're the dumbest shit eater alive.
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