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/utg/ - Undertale General 2017-01-23 02:49:28 Post No. 166340985
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/utg/ - Undertale General 2017-01-23 02:49:28 Post No. 166340985
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Anime is Real Edition
Previous Timeline: >>166259208
Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.
-The Game
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/391540/
>http://undertale.com/
-The Demo
>http://undertale.com/demo.htm
-Artbook
>http://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk
-Booru
>http://under.booru.org/
-Recommendbin
>http://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6
-Writebin
>http://pastebin.com/UCr5qFpc
-Fangamebin
>http://pastebin.com/ZHASpj9h
-Steam Group
>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/undertalegen
-Flockdraw
>http://flockmod.com/undertale
-Zeemap
>http://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1873782
-Shimejibin
>http://pastebin.com/YFEGhgxY
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Oh...
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I love this goat! Gonna lift for this goat!
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Night.
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>Asgore
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2zFo_BVQAAiDvl.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cfb9sNKVIAA3WRt.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2zKeuqWIAA3D1P.jpg:orig
>Asriel
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2yFDA3UUAIqIqt.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2y4riCUAAIVSLj.jpg:orig
>Flowey
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2xtZ_QUsAAqQdX.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwSr4J6XgAAFCWJ.png:orig
>Frisk
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2yRk4EUQAAH5DN.jpg:orig
>Sans
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2zAdsMUkAAMc7G.jpg:orig
>Papyrus
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2yF3u9UoAAI15w.jpg:orig
>Gaster
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjjFPRSUgAAlKfl.jpg:orig
>Alphys
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2zSM9cWIAA4M4c.png:orig
>Mettaton
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2yMcx7UoAEELBh.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2yE8vRUcAENntN.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2yHTMqVIAERm_7.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2yHOXNVEAAHzRn.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2yG0nZUsAAhvk8.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2yG2-fUoAE21GD.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2zJmlkUAAAZpgo.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2yXXVYVEAM9slB.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2y2BaEUsAA9iYK.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2zsILuUcAAIhPc.jpg:orig
>Mettaton & Alphys
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2yzE1vVQAAV-E1.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2yNEgmVIAE_yRE.jpg:orig
>Mettaton & Napstablook
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2wyxQtUsAAdjZr.jpg:orig
>grillby and friends
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2xYbUGVQAQd4c_.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cqizch0UEAALbAd.png:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1tlEOuUcAI0ncL.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1tlEBBUkAA-TE3.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1tlEO1UcAA_01H.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2xTBXYVEAAaI1U.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2xxIErUAAEePCd.jpg:orig
>Baby bones + Fishlizard
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2v4fDfUcAEhmEJ.png:orig
>Genocide group picture
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C20hNFgUsAAO7oX.jpg:orig
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>>166341437
Anon, what the fuck?
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Charisk
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>>166341167
Would Mettaton watch Bananas in Pajamas?
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>>166341406
Sweet jesus - that's a lot of robot.
Thanks twitteranon!
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>>166341406
Thanks for the cute Grillbys!
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>Relatives?
>Brother and Sister
>Is not it a secret child?
>It's a joke, boy
>(oh my goodness)
I'm not sure what the joke's supposed to be. Fucking translators.
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>>166341863
Thanking about it a lot of those are probably old art he was reposting and im a retard
>>166341917
I like the dog grillby
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reminder
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The spider a cute! CUTE!!!Good night, /utg/. Take care.
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>>166342165
I thought you went to bed.
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This was supposed to be a cute doodle of Asriel wearing pajamas and yawning, but I took a wrong turn somewhere and it became Asriel being upset and crying about something. Where did I go wrong?
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>>166342104
I didn't have any of those so it's fine.
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>>166342219
gote had a nightmare D:
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>>166342219
dont worry lil gote
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>>166342193
good night
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>>166342193
No!Night
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>>166342193
Sleep tight, spooder.
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>>166342219
Swole gotes don't cry
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>>166341698
friskriel
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I love this fish.
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>>166343198
cute!
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>>166343280
Not even a fishfag, but god damn if she doesn't have some great art.
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this a skelton post
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>>166343280
She's an excellent fish!
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>>166343280
Me too.
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>>166343280
Even botfags love that fish.
Also - post more undertales in suits.
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>>166343848
>Cq3ueBeUEAI-Uv6.jpg
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>>166343848
>undertales in suits.
You called?
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>>166343916
Whoops, didn't mean to quote that text.
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>>166343916
Ummm...
Sorry?
>>166344001
Heck yeah.
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>all these suits
m-muh dick
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>>166343848
I really need toriel in a suit
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>>166343848
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>>166344071
Finally.
>>166344107
Do you need help?
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>>166344107
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>>166343848
Not exactly a suit... But still fancy!
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I wonder if there's a pic of Alphys in suit.
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>>166344195
yes call me an ambulance, my dick is too erect
>>166344282
hehehe cute
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aDalMuA2_g
post what you're watching
>>166343848
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>>166344329
Probably, would you be surprised?
>>166344335
That doesn't sound like a problem though.
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>>166344478
Oh yes.
She would probably look cute in it.
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>>166344478
its quite a large problem if you know what im sayin
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nice
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>>166344890
Very
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>>166344572
Suits make everyone look good.Even weebs like Alphys.
>>166344619
I'm pretty sure I've seen and dealt with bigger.
>>166344890
>>166344964
work
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>>166345003
you really know how to kill an ego anon
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Oh...
Took me long enough to notice those filenames.
I can stop if you want.
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>>166345003
>>166344478
>>166344195
Was there really any need to put down that anon like that with filenames? They just like suits.
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>>166345243
Don't mind the shitter. Post what you want.
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cat bully
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>>166345158
Hey, man, I'm just being honest.
>>166345243
What are you talking about?
>>166345456
I didn't even realize I had them named that, oh fuck.Sorry man, I guess I'll stop.
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>>166343848
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>>166345243
pretty sure he was naming them for me right?
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Ok, everyone just stop for a second.
Just what the hell happened here?
Am I finally losing my mind or what?
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>>166345843
Yes to both.
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Howdy utg, how is everyone tonight?my first class starts tomorrow, end me
also shit guys, ithanks for using my picture as the starter image
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>>166345843
Forget it, its fine, no harm was meant. Just keep posting what you want.
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>>166344964
woo
>>166345003
>>166345672
stop
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>>166346219
WORK
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I still love this picture.
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>>166346160
Well...
Ok then.
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>>166346353
thats a big dino
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what if simon belmont fell into the underground?
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>>166345937
A bit hit and miss. My tablet threw a fit and it took a while to fix it. On the plus side, frosted cookies.
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>>166345937
heya petra
good luck with your studies
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what if your dad fell into the underground?
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>>166346402
my tablet likes to wig out on the random and not let me click anything with it unless I ctrl,alt, delete and hit okay (then it works fine until it decides to do it again)
Tablets are little shits man, glad you fixed it though
>>166346416
thanks anon!
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what if drake fell into the underground?
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what if nancy drew and scooby doo fell into the underground simultaneously?
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>>166346665
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>>166345937
>my first class starts tomorrow
Good luck.
I'm pulling another all-nighter for tommorow's exam so... yeah.
You have that to look forward to.
>>166346565He already did 17 years ago.
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>>166345937
Been better>spent time with friends
>feel bad for losing the entire day
>feel even worse for feeling bad for hanging out with friends
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Greetings anons.I beat CoC
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>>166346565
i would miss him
>>166346862
;-;
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what if the cute cashier at the supermarket fell into the underground?
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What if my rattling alchemist fell into the underground?
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>>166346565
I'd finally feel safe
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what if former president barack obama fell into the underground?
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would you still love your favorite if they were 8 and fell into the underground
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what if future president kanye west fell into the underground?
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>>166346862
oops, I did a typo
"my first class of my sophmore year" is what I meant to say... exams, funfun, I wish you luck anon
>>166346868I spent all day animating for the fangame trailer
how does the day go by so fast? I feel like I've done so little.
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>>166346257
stop this
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what if 100 navy seals fell into the underground?
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>>166346906
She would probably get rekt, she isn't very agile.
>>166346907
S/he would probably throw potions at them.
>>166347034
He'd probably negotiate his way out of the underground until he can't negotiate with OF, at which point Joe Biden saves him.
>>166347078
That's like their whole background though.
>>166347195
>>166347237
No memes
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what if the hacker known as 4chan fell into the underground?
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>>166347326
>all of 4chan
Monsters are fucked.
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>>166347378
literally
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What if DIO fell into the underground
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what if huckleberry finn fell into the underground?
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>>166347197
Thanks, but i'm probably gonna screw this one up.
It's 5 am and i'm starting to mix up everything i've learned.
I can't even write one proper sentence in english.
>>166347378
>>166347396
Dibs on Mettaton EX!
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>>166347298
>Throw potions at them
Frost and fire bombs but close enough
And then he would join the royal guard
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what if megaman fell into the underground?
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what if the what if the underground fell into the underground fell into the underground?
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>>166347656
He's just a robot, so he has no Soul, so...
Not sure where that would go.
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>>166347510
how'd you end up pulling an all-nighter anyway, you really need a fully awake brain for exams
good luck to you
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is undyne a finger
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>>166347326
The collection of 4chan?
/pol/ would probably be exiled to the Ruins, held there by a coalition of /pol/-hating boards (/his/, /sci/, /k/, so on), that hold up in Snowdin. /out/ would set up camp in Waterfall, /g/ and /sci/ would share the CORE, /v/ and /vg/ would probably hang out in Hotlands and be weebs with Alphys, /b/ would set up in New Home, and the poor monsters would be caught up in all of it.
>>166347459
Everything fucking dies.
>>166347508
He would probably stay with Toriel.
>>166347656
He would be Mettaton's sub
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>>166347838
It happens quite often to be honest.
Coffee, redbulls and cigs keep me awake.Though I'm still far from beating my record in staying awake™
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>>166347980
does she have a soul
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what if(You)fell into the underground?
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>>166348084
I would do neutral, TP, and then spend the rest of my time theorizing if it is possible to revive Asriel and Chara, along with all of the other fallen humans. If not, I would try to make Flowey, Chara's ghost, and the SOULs happy.
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>>166348084
id fug this thing and save the monsters maybe, probably not
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>>166348021
>Everything fucking die
Not just that but he'd probably find out about souls
And that would be REALLY bad
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>>166348084
I'd court and marry this goat
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what if meatwad fell into the underground?
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>>166348232
but she a lesbean
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>>166348084
>SAVE
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>>166348084
I'd pal around with my faves, save the underground and become the monster's ambassadorI know, Im boring
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>>166348375
so am i
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>>166348084
TP all the way up to Asgore.
Tell Asgore we cool.
Chill in the Underground until someone else comes along to break the barrier.
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lmao
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>>166348483
oh god ecto paunch
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>>166348084
I'd do more or less the same thing this anon would do >>166348196 plus hitting on my favorite.
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>>166348473
oh, I understand choosing tentacle head now
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>>166348483chub n tuck
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>>166347326
Genocide, monster's say hello by trying to murder you, self defense is a reasonable excuse here, and with that many people we aren't missing any.
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>>166348084
Spare Toriel
Spare Papyrus
Spare Undyne
Spare Mettaton
Spare Asgore
Kill Flowey
reload
Do TP
Break Barrier
Forgive goatkid
Go hang out with my new monster friends
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sorry for the brief visit utg, I have a full day ahead of me, goodnight everyone! have a good time wherever you are
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Can any of us pose well enough to spare Mettaton?
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>>166349309
Goodnight petra!
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Goat
Demon
Child
>>166349309
Goodnight anon. Sweet dreams.
>>166349342
I've got the form, but I lack the grace and flexibility. If I can just pull an Aaron and flex nonstop I might have a chance.
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>>166349309
Goodnight!
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>>166349309
See ya!
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sans
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>>166349658
is overrated
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>>166349342
We just need good ratings, right? We could earn that by horribly embarrassing ourselves.
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>>166349309
Goodnight petra! Sleep well!
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>>166349698
that's hilarious
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>>166349795
and true
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>>166349658
yeah, weird that hes missing from that picture
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>>166349658
I love that artist
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>>166349658
would you cuddle with him?
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>>166350025
I don't know how comfortable bones are.
I guess if he really wants to.
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>>166349658
Sans'
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Goat
Children
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>>166349658
>no sans as mettaton
fixing this travesty
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Sans would smell horrible. Rancid grease, old ketchup, never showering off dirt and other filth.
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What is Mettaton reacting to in this pic?
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>>166351456
He is reacting to all of the bad fetish images
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>>166351456
a mirror
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>>166351456
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5nPEjsTqws
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>>166351456my dick
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>>166351456
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>>166351456
AFUCKING JOJO REFERENCE
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>>166341167
I want mettaton to ride my banana
if ya know what I mean.
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>>166341406
>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2xtZ_QUsAAqQdX.jpg:orig
no
dont hurt flowey
thanks as usual twitter anon
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>>166352437
Ooohhh~
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Gonna turn in, now. Another long week of classes ahead.
Goodnight, /utg/. Be sure to hold your favorites fondly when you hit the hay.
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>>166353103
Goodnight.
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>>166353103
Goodnight!
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Quick question (to anyone that is still here).
How do you feel about posting cosplay here?
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>>166354041
I've seen a few anons post cosplay here, so it's fine.
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>>166354041
it's Undertale content, it's fine
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>>166354041
as long as its undertale related
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>>166354041
I've done it before but didn't post it. I admire those who do.
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>>166354193
>>166354298
what if it'sAU stuff
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>>166354041
I don't like it but I can't stop you
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>>166354349
You are going down a dark path.
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>>166354150
>>166354193
>>166354298
>>166354346
Ok then.
Here's one last hotbot in suit (at least for now).I have no idea who's that but... wow! I'm jealous as fuck.
I'm bailing. Take care, everyone!
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>>166354432
God damn thats some thick red wine
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>>166354432
Is that blood?
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>>166354432
well, their twitter url is on the pic if you were looking for more
https://twitter.com/ovos_h
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>>166354686
Oh wow - i'm blind.
Thanks for pointing that out.
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>>166353103
okay
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Wake up babies.
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>>166355853
no!
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>>166355853
good night thread
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>>166355853
am I a sexy baby? would you fuck me anon?
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>>166355913
Yes!
>>166355932
NO!
>>166355963
I don't know, anon. I don't know you on personal level.
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>>166355932
good night post
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>>166355853
nah
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>>166356125
Wake up!
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>>166356240
ok im awake
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>>166356369
Thank you!
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>>166356419
just kidding
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>>166356519
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WAKE UUUUUUUUUUUUP! Please.
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>>166356657
whats in it for me?
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>>166356817
You get to be the king of Switzerland.
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>>166356874
ehhhh ill pass
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>>166356874
Actually they start out as an administrative republic, but I guess if you let your republican tradition tick down far enough by electing the same guy over and over...
And hey, then you can be the Holy Roman Emperor! That's a good deal!
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So does Undyne have hair, or is it supposed to be a fin?
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I'm fond of this goat
>>166357061
>starting in the HRE
Enjoy your aggressive expansion!
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>>166357641
w-what
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>>166357782
Yeah, that's what I thought. Art rarely supports it, though.
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>>166357770
>AE
What's that?
t. Humanist Ideas and Improve Relations advisor
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>>166357641
>>166357936
It's hair, she can style it into different hair dews.
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>>166358004
Like braids!
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>>166358094
Yes!
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>>166358004
>>166358094
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>>166358263
NO
NO NIGGER HAIR
UNDYNE IS WHITE
W H I T E
H
I
T
E
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>>166358378
she's blue
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>>166358263
Magnificent.
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>>166358004
Yeah, but most of the in-game art suggests the fin thing. I mean, she doesn't have a hairline.
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>>166358534
I
ButFuck he's right
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>>166358534
?
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>>166358534
Not really. I mean, for the date she changes her hair. So hair is what Toby was going for in his design. Besides monsters aren't stuck with logic in their design, remember sweating skeletons, jelly blobs and monsters with hands for a head are a thing. No logic.
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>>166358534
>>166358643
No he isn't.
Undyne has hair as shown by her date sprite as seen here >>166358692
Also this >>166358702 is a good point, because monsters don't follow the laws of nature.
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>>166358692
The one outlier, yeah. I mean, the "hair" isn't even the same color in that graphic. In every other visual it's white on black in monochrome.
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>>166358692
I've been japed yet again. Curse my tired brain.
But really, her non-date sprite's hair is pulled waaaaay back, there's not even hair on the top of her head. That's so weirdly inconsistent. Y'know, unless monsters can just magic up some hair when they feel like it.
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>>166358702
>for the date she changes her hair.
She does it like this
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>>166358790
It's hair, anon.
>>166358815
I wouldn't put it past them. Papyrus can grow eye balls for emotional changes.
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>>166358790
look it even goes through her earfin thing
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>>166358692
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>>166359012
According to Toby
Skeletons can grow eyes and sweat
Hands can be heads
and Fish can have hair.
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>>166359065
>>166358861
>>166359012
>>166358838
>>166358815
Toby can't sprite for shit, remember Mkids broken sprite stuff?
>>
Who wants really shitty ms paint pictures?
Give me your shitty requests.
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>>166359406
snootleboops
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>>166359406
Alphys and Underfell Alphys having a slapfight over anime tastes.
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>>166359406
Alphys killing a monster while dressed as a nazi
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Threadly reminder that Sans is, in fact, the strongest monster.
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>>166359792
he still isn't mkid
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>>166359418
Bottom of the barrel shit drawings, folks.
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>>166359878
Sans is also the best fleshlight in the underground. Ecto jelly that doesn't make you a pedophile. It literally can't be topped.
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>>166359885
THAT'S NOT A BOOP
YOU FUCKING GOOK FRISK YOU'LL PAY FOR THAT
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>>166359493
>>166359650
Two sfor the price of your decency.
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>>166359949
yeah but you can't eat him
checkmate sansfags
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>>166360029
That's because he's supposed to eat YOU
Being eaten >>>>>>>>>> eating someone else
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>>166360017
Coem at them, they're ripped.
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>>166360126
HOW IS HE SWALLOWING DOWN HIS SPINAL CORD
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>>166360218
because vorefags are braindead retarded
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>>166360218
E C T O - B E L L Y
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>>166360218
magic skeleton bullshit
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>>166360126
... Time to ban the internet. And install shock collars on everyone.
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>>166360278
>>166360301
But but even if it was hollow he'd end up in his coccyx or something
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>>166360383
>>166360301
>>166360126
>>166360278
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>>166360509
>browsing /utg/ in the year of our Trump 2017
>not liking vore
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>voreposting
>but it's skeleton ectobullshit
God fucking damn it you fags cannot get anything right
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>>166360590
No.
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>>166360701
Go back to the void so your son can eat me in peace
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>>166360698
Obviously. Who else would you want to get eaten by?
>inb4 toriel/asrielwith realistic digestion and scat
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>>166360790
I don't think so.
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>>166360905
Why is Undyne wearing a skull? That's really creepy.
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>>166360861
You really want to know?
Flowey, Froggit, Napstablook, Lesser Dog, Greater Dog, Doggo, the horse at the bar, Snowdrake, Snowdrake's dad, politics bear, MKid, Gerson, Alphys, aaron, Mad Dummy, the dad dragon in the mtt hotel, RG01 and RG02, Madjick, Woshua, the bara demon hellboy looking guy in the mtt hotel, Asgore, Omega Flowey, Asriel, and maybe, MAAAAAAAYBE Onionsan.
Maybe.
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>>166361010
I actually don't know, but she is crying in the picture.
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>>166361026
uh
wow
alright then
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>>166361228
Just because I'm not a skeletonfucker doesn't mean I'm a slouch when it comes to degeneracy, motherfucker.
Step down with that weak-ass ecto garbage.
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>>166361026
>froggit
>madjick
>woshua
how would that even fucking work
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>>166342193
Agreed. Good night spideranon.
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>>166361661
Not him, but
Froggit
>RIBBIT [chomp]
>BIPPITY BOPPITY BOO!
>turns you into a vegetable
>You try to plead him not to, but plants can't talkIdiot
>[chomp]
Woshua
>wosh u body
>Woshua's top opens up, and he tosses you inside
>it's actually a very small locker room on the inside
>But it's magic water so it still kills you
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>>166361783
but madjick doesn't even have a throat
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>>166361836
see
>>166360278
Magic is magic. Neither me nor toby gotta explain shit.
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>>166361026
>napstablook
But ghosts can only eat ghost food.
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>>166361980
>get eaten by non-ghost
>digest
>become ghost
>become ghost food
ez
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2xwuzJVIAIW_MZ.jpg:orig
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Goodnight utg! Try not to work too hard Monday! I hope your work/school day goes by fast!
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>>166362703
Good night!
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>>166362664
Oh my!
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>>166362768
There's going to be some sort of fan event in February, lots of ads for doujins on twitter.
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This thread got weird fast.I like it.
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>>166362898
That's interesting.
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>>166361026
whoa, that's varied
i'm pretty vanilla, i only want to be eaten and digested by asriel
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>They actually unironically fap/slick to vore
What a world.
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>>166342219
It's the eyes. You made his eyes seem like they're really tightly held shut so it looks like he's more upset than tired. Try giving him more relaxed eyes and maybe have one open and one closed.
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>>166362664
>>166362898
Oh fuck yeah! Muffet needs more stuff.
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>>166359406
Draw a sexy Mettaton.
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Who wants really shitty paint tool sai pictures?
Give me your shitty requests.
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>>166364253
Undyne with a big anime sword.
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>>166364253
mettaton ex with a bazooka
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>>166364426
asriel bored at school
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>>166364253
a selection of characters from >>166361026 reacting to said post, or this thread in general
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>>166363443
is that better or worse than having domination and vineplay fetishesmaybe gore tooi wouldnt like to be killed or dismembered but a few cuts make it more exciting
>>166364253
flowey being mean to minor monsters from waterfall
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Why did Chara want to kill all humans
>>
>>166364253
Flowey after reconstructive surgery to turn him into a knife.
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>>166364805
Look around you nigga
These degenerates must be purged. Chara was right all along.
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>Toriel and Asgore never get to meet Asriel's new form again
It still hurts
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>>166364426
hahaha
tricked you
i cant draw
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>>166365639
I would have liked more closure with Asriel, giving his parents one last goodbye.
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>>166365902
Hey, it doesn't look too bad. Just keep practicing!
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>>166364805
Could be any number of reasons. She might have been abused or she might just be insane. Whatever it was it was a pretty powerful hate if they were willing to eat buttercups until they died. Those things burn your skin even if you just touch them.
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>>166366401
>she
>they
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>>166365973
Maybe Undertale 2 will have an ending where chara and Asriel are revived.
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You tryin'na die on me /utg/?
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>>166368045
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>>166367874
At this point I sort of hope it does die because some fuckers are just being disgusting weirdos beyond my ability to put up with.
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>>166358094
Curls!
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>>166368045
So the tier list is really
Burgerpants
Sans
(Reader Name)
Undyne
Right?
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>>166366783
please, anon... you're just making it harder
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Good morning, /utg/.
I hope you have a wonderful day.
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>>166368615
fuck you
i wont
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>>166368716
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>>166368615
Thanks, you too.
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>>166368941
no i was kidding
dont hurt him
>>
where's frick
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>>166368941
I want chara to step on me.
>>
Angstrom you've gone too far
You have to be stopped
https://static1.e621.net/data/74/01/74016f9ce0956b3ee267a6770000a35a.jpg
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>>166369393
Stuffet the Muffet indeed
>>
>>166369393
https://static1.e621.net/data/3b/c7/3bc77fa5f0894324619123e0794607f1.jpg
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In your opinion, would it have been a good idea to take Asriel out and show him to his mother and father one last time?
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>>166370747
Probably not. He'd turn into a flower/isolate himself and they'd have to lose their kid again.
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>>166370747
No, they were likely on the way to getting over his death, Asgore especially. It will only make the wound linger.
>>
>>166370774
>>166370787
This. They might feel good for a moment, but they'd lose him again. Or Asgore would get Alphys to somehow make him live again.
>>
>>166370747
Would only serve to reopen scarred wounds and remind Flowey about the things he cannot have once he's back.
Toriel and Asgore are immortal, and Flowey's flower body has been shown to be exceptionally long lived. The pain would be eternal.
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large skele?
>>
I can't believe there's no ending where you reveal that Flowey is Asriel and that it's Alphys's fault and then Alphys is strapped to a chair and gets the skin on her face torn off while Frisk burns her favorite anime and Undyne becomes my girlfriend instead
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>>166360218
>>166360248
There is another alternative.
But would you actually prefer it to be ecto-throat?
Somehow I doubt it.
>>
Abandoning Flowey/Asriel made me feel like shit. I kept hoping there was some way to make things work, and there wasn't.
>>
Is there going to be an Undertale prequel / sequel?
I think a prequel would be especially heartwrenching if it deals in detail about chara and Asriel...because we know what happens.
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>>166368941
YOU MUST CEASE
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>>166371212
You really like Undertale don't you.
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>>166371370
I'd be much more interested in a prequel about the 6 previous souls, since not much really happens in Asriel and Chara's story, apart from how it ends.
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>>166371370
Does this game really need a sequel or prequel? Is relatively self-contained. If you could save Flowey / Asriel, then Frisk and Toriel / Asgore became a family again, it would feel like a Disney movie.
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>>166371338
Agreed. Abandoning him all alone down there for good felt wrong. It's not like he'd eventually die either. At worst, something like that could just do more damage to him.
>>
BAN ALL DISCORDFAGS
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This is a high-quality, professional level goat.
>>166371590
Undertale?
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>>166371549
>>166371521
>>166371370
I think they should have given Flowey / Asriel an actual death. He deserves to be laid to rest at the very least.
Or Alphys fixing him somehow.
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>>166371549
>>166371338
The biggest reason I don't like the idea of forever leaving him there is because as TP has shown, it's not impossible to rehabilitate Flowey to at least some reasonable level. Regular game Flowey never would have pleaded for Frisk's happiness.
But leave him in the damp cave, for several months/years, perched on top of the dead sibling whose demise he still feels responsible for, all alone in isolation, and either he dies or you'll soon have something more bugfuck insane than even his worst moments in Undertale. And it's not like, in his insanity, he'd have a hard time catching a soul on the surface.
>>
>>166371756
>>166371882
This is why I want a sequel. This in my opinion is a massive loose end to the game, his fate is worse than death, and all he did was show love and compassion.
>>
>>166372036
The Q&A suggests there's at the very least contact with Flowey, so it's still hopeful. I'd like to think Frisk or Papyrus would keep him company and either through boredom or finally giving in, he'd join the on the surface.
Yeah, he may never love, but he can be cared for and provided some therapy which could help. He'll never be fixed, but he can still live a life with some purpose.
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>>166371882
Yeah, it just seems like a situation that's not gonna last.
Either he sooner or later becomes crazy, or he'll leave to find something in this world that's worth something to him.
>>166372141
It's more like ambiguous. I don't think the Q&A was meant to happen at any specific moment in time.
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>>166372198
It has Sans and Toriel interacting face-to-face, and Metta with his EX form, so it's likely that it takes places at some undefined time, but almost surely after TP.
But nah, I don't think Flowey's situation is hopeless, just bad. Really bad, but managable. Just needs a lot of care and a reason to try and give a toss about others.
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>>166372762
It's like 7am
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>>166372336
Why not tell Toriel the truth about Flowey
I have never understood this, she could put him in a flower pot and take care of him, or at least keep him company....and apologize for setting him on fire earlier.
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>>166373271
Toriel would tell him to fuck off for being a killer. You're better off getting Asgore to take care of him since he would blame himself for Asriel's actions and is good with plants
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>>166373320
>Toriel would tell him to fuck off for being a killer.
Oh, right. Surely she'd have stronger feelings for her own child, though.
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>>166373271
Toriel and Asgore grieved for Asriel for untold number of years. To see him return would be a huge shock, and Flowey, knowing he still can't love them, can't bear the idea of causing them more pain than he has already.
>>166373320
>Toriel would tell him to fuck off for being a killer.
This is kind of a stupid reason though, considering Frisk can casually murder every living creature in Home and Toriel won't even acknowledge it.
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>>166373448
Those feelings didn't stop her from ditching the other humans or from leaving Asgore who she apparently loved quite a bit.
>>166373476
bad writing I guess or Toriel blamed Asgore and the other monsters for that and tricked herself into thinking it was self-defense. Its quite a bit different when you're dealing with someone like Flowey who clearly just did it for fun
but hey whatever you want to imagine
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>>166373670
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>>166373601
That complete ignorance towards human malice carries through all of the endings though, hell, it gets her fucking dethroned by Undyne in at least one and a rebellion in some others. So unless she's retarded or all of her characters is badly written from the grounds up, it's more likely she just took Asgore's actions worse.
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>>166373991
>her characters is badly written from the grounds up
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First timer here, got into this game a few weeks ago
If you spare Asgore, why does he say that you and Toriel will live together as a family, doesn't Toriel really hate Asgore for murdering innocent children when there was an easier path for him to open the barrier? Why does Asgore think she'd come back when he shows up with the kid.
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>>166374063
he's delusional for some reason
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>>166374063
If you kill Flowey and spare Asgore again he admits that it was just wishful thinking and kills himself so you can take his soul to leave and find a way to break the barrier on the outside without more killing
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>>166374063
Because despite what he did he still believes in good.
I think it's a lesson about how your deeds are more important than your thoughts.
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>>166374063
>when there was an easier path for him to open the barrier
There wasn't, but neither of them know that.
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>>166374221
Don't respond to Soriel
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>>166374275
I don't appreciate you trying to stifle Soriel's right to free speech.
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So, does your fav wear boxers or briefs?Or panties if they are a girl?
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Should stop doofposting here and try to make the world a better place in some way.
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So we all agree that Undyne x Mettaton is better than Alphys x Undyne, right?
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>>166374063
>when there was an easier path for him to open the barrier?
We don't actually know for sure there is. Toriel has a suggestion, but it's never actually confirmed to have been a doable idea and people have cast their doubts on it.
Because we don't know the exact circumstances it's hard to know what exactly Asgore and Toriel were doing and thinking.
Some will defend one of them and fault another or other way around, but know this;
no one knows for sure, anyone who says they do is lying and these people are basically always just headcanoning in favor of their favorites.
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>>166374640
Alphys had weird ideas on how to bring Chara back, I see.
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>>166374756
pretty much but it won't stop people from both sides from bitching about the other and trying to bait them.
Just ignore anything written about Toriel and Asgore and come to your own conclusions and have your own opinions.
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>>166374638
Naturally she wearsshe goes commando and you know it
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>>166374638
Boxers
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>>166374638
nothing at allbecause hes a flower
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>>166374756
No matter what I'll never stop finding it deeply questionable that Asgore proceeded with killing the humans despite
1. her trusted and accomplished advisor and partner for life going against it with everything she got
2. he knew there could be alternatives that weren't exhausted before choosing the final solution
This part of writing actually annoys me because they seem like such not-Asgore things to do.
Like, if I had to guess what kind of decisions the person we see Asgore being in the game to do in these situations, I'm really, really not feeling these are "him".
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>>166374861
Frankie does good work.
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>>166375283
Issues are
>1. her trusted and accomplished advisor and partner for life going against it with everything she got
She ditched right away while he was still pissed over humans fucking the monsters over once again plus them killing his kid for pretty much no reason
>2.He knew there could be alternatives
like what? His goal was to keep his peoples hopes alive and he devoted himself to doing that fully not just in the soul taking thing since everyone talks about him going around the underground and trying to keep his people happy and hopeful. Even his whole house is nice and friendly and invites random monsters to come hang out in the natural sunlight and his garden. He pretty much fully devoted his own life to making other people happy. its just the best way to do that was to go along with the war thing because otherwise his people were going to lose all hope and will to live
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>>166342219
It's okay, he's a crybaby so it's in-character.
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>>166348084
Time-travelling rape spree. I should not be allowed to have that much power.
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>>166374638My favorite will wear panties and learn to love it.
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>>166375283
>Like, if I had to guess what kind of decisions the person we see Asgore being in the game to do in these situations, I'm really, really not feeling these are "him".
What if the Asgore we actually end up meeting in the game really is different from how he originally was.
War, combat and killing some kids easily counts as a traumatic experience. Easily enough to affect someone, to even cause them to change.
Maybe he didn't use to have the highly friendly and even meek personality like we know him. Maybe he was more brazen in the past and deep in his regret ended up changing.
It's just speculation, but it would support that inconsistency.
>>166375525
>She ditched right away
Not him but he did the declaration of war and how every human who ends up in the underground in the same breath. It would be unreasonable to expect her to still stay with him, hoping that they'd come to their senses before actually getting to killing the first human because he really was set on doing it from the get go.
That would have been the actually retarded thing to do if she didn't support his murderous ideas.
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>>166376043
and how every human who ends up in the underground must die*
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>>166375525
>She ditched right away while he was still pissed over humans fucking the monsters over
That's not even canon. Asgore's war declaration happened after Asriel and Chara's death, which was already years and years away from the war.
>hurr like what?
Asgore please.
The rest of your post is just dinduing that has nothing to do with this.
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>>166376043
As much as I like both of them and think both have some fault, that is true. While she could have softened him up over time, Toriel seems to take very hardline stances when she makes up her mind, which easily could have plunged the Underground into a civil war.
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>>166348427
>implying (You)r chances would be any better
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>>166375283
>>166375525
To add to that this is pretty much how I see the events going
>Asriel and Chara do their shit and get each other killed
>Underground falls into despair at being proved once again that monsters and humans can never live in peace together
>Asgore in grief declares that humans and monsters can never co-exist because of all the shit that happened
>declares war on the surface and says that if they can't co-exist then he'll wipe them out so that monsters can live on the surface and finally be safe so that nothing like the war or his son dying happens again
>Toriel fucks off to the ruins
>~time happens~
>Asgore calms the fuck down and realizes that it was just his grief talking but now its become the only source of hope in the underground
>rest of the humans fall down and Asgore continues with his promise in order to keep that hope life and give his people a reason to live
>undertale happens and restores the original dream of humans and monsters being able to live in peace
I think people don't understand the whole no one believed that humans and monsters legitimately didn't think they could live together because of all the shit that had happened and just think that the barrier was the only thing keeping monsters from a happy ending.
>>166376298
No I meant that it reopened the old wound for the monster race again plus this time his kid had also been killed.
>it was dinduing
No it wasn't? I was just spelling out his motivation that was also told to you by him in the game. Its 100% canon that he just wanted to keep hope alive
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>>166376402
>No it wasn't?
If you are trying to defend him on anything but focusing on the point you are just looking for excuses to ignore the point.
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>>166376538
>If you are trying to defend him on anything but focusing on the point you are just looking for excuses to ignore the point.
What the fuck does this even mean
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>>166370747
Yes. But only when he's on the verge of transforming back so they can regain what they've lost for only a moment before seeing the cruel truth of the matter.
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>>166371338
You can still release him from his torment. Of course, you'd have to kill everyone else first.
>>166371370
I want Chara to be canonically male so tumblr literally implodes
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>>166376298
I don't think you know what dinduing means
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>>166370747
not until there's at least a realistic chance his conscience can be preserved.
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>>166371882
Either he'll go insane, leave, kill himself, or stop thinking.
There is no happy end.
>>166372141
The Q&A's not canon.
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>>166373271
>Why not tell Toriel the truth about Flowey
>hey good news your son's alive
>bad news he's a soulless flower driven to madness from time travel
>also it's Alphys' fault
I can only see that going well
>>166374063
>why does he say that you and Toriel will live together as a family
Because he's delusional.
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>>166376580
If you don't know the shingles from New Home's bulbous growth, you shouldn't exit the catheter sensuously.
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>>166376819
well, he can't really kill himself, his determination will keep him alive. so, yeah, probably not a good idea to leave him alone with his insanity and nothing to stop him from escaping to the surface.
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>>166376732
>You can still release him from his torment. Of course, you'd have to kill everyone else first.
Naw. I want everyone to be happy. I am a relentless pursuer of good ends.
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>>166376954
So you were just shit posting and not actually looking for a conversation or an explanation for a characters actions?
My mistake
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>>166374756
It's really easy actually. Human souls linger after death, so all Asgore would have to do is go to the human world and hang out near the cancer ward of the local hospital and the souls would literally start walking out the door.
Or he could kill 6 hobos.
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>>166376801
>>166376651
>>166376819
Doesn't Flowey remember being Asriel
Doesn't he get all emotional in the Pacifist ending begging you not to reset shit...because uh...doesnt that imply he's got a fragment of a soul left, or is somehow growing one?
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>>166376957
>well, he can't really kill himself
Well not anymore. But he can and has killed himself. He's just too much of a pussy to let go because he's afraid of an afterlife with no soul.
>>166376964
>I want everyone to be happy
Then enjoy your exercise in futility I guess.
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>>166377080
Sometimes I wonder if you're just shit posting or really this retarded.
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>>166376580
The point is that he didn't have any clue if he had alternatives because he never looked into them before going with keeping the war going. He clearly should have at least tried other options before that.
Nothing you mentioned could defend that. The real way to keep his people happy would be to offer them help and solutions and as a king he knows this. That's where should have put his efforts, no question about it.
Being nice to your subjects is only compensating for the crap that you've led them into. It wasn't his fault in this case, but deciding what to do next is his responsibility. And look where giving people headpats and keeping up the pretense of a long-term plan got them, the underground has been so depressed for so long that no one even bothers to work anymore.
The hope was lost despite Asgore's efforts and I don't see it turning out any other way either.
Had he instead planned research, work, anything to keep up the effort and things could have been different. He didn't even try. That means he was unwilling to take that option.
Considering how many it affected it would be hard to defend a decision like that.
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>>166377128
No. He has memories of what it feels like to love etc. but those will fade once again. He doesn't want you to reset because he still has those sentimental memories I guess, sand saying that if you do, you'll have to erase his memories, too.
Of course, why would you listen to something that doesn't have a soul?
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>>166376957
Determination only kept him alive because he had the power to reset. With Frisk usurping that, he's got no way to revive himself, so he'd die.
>>166376819
You're a bundle of flowers and sunshine, aren't ya, anon?
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>>166377080
Sometimes I wonder why this explanation is never even considered by some.
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>>166377128
this world is full of magic than can do seemingly impossible things, and there's nothing within the canon plot itself that would rule out saving asriel. it was either intentionally bittersweet or toby intended to expand upon it, which will probably never happen now.
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>>166377219
After the shit he's been through even after that, I'd scared of life or death either way.
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>>166377302
>You're a bundle of flowers and sunshine, aren't ya, anon?
Yep. But really I'm just facing facts: Flowey is fucked. No matter what timeline, what sequence of events, what actions undertaken, there is nothing anyone can do that can alter his fate.
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>>166377254
>The point is that he didn't have any clue if he had alternatives because he never looked into them before going with keeping the war going.
Like what? Going to the surface and taking six more souls would just have sped up the whole genocide thing. Plus he did have Alphys and most likely Gaster studing souls and the barrier so he was looking into alternates otherwise Flowey wouldn't exist
>The real way to keep his people happy would be to offer them help and solutions and as a king he knows this.
There were none that didn't invole massive amounts of people dying or the monster race losing the will to live
>And look where giving people headpats and keeping up the pretense of a long-term plan got them
Kept hope alive for decades and centuries?
>the underground has been so depressed for so long that no one even bothers to work anymore
This is just wrong
>The hope was lost despite Asgore's efforts and I don't see it turning out any other way either.
But it wasn't?
>Had he instead planned research, work, anything to keep up the effort and things could have been different.
Researched what?
>>166377315
Because it would have just lead to another war?
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>>166377454
>I'd scared of life or death either way
If life's not worth living then there's no reason to live it. If he wasn't such a little bitch he could make it all stop at any time. But fear of the unknown drives him to cling to his pathetic, hollow existence.
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>>166377483
>>166377363
Would be interesting to see an Undertale sequel where Flowey is at large in the real world. Perhaps stealing humans souls by the thousands, and become the hyperdeath god again.
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>>166377527
>Because it would have just lead to another war?
...so instead of something that MIGHT lead them to war but something that also MIGHT actually SAVE THE WHOLE UNDERGROUND, which is the only real thing that would matter
was worse than just declaring war?
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>>166377527
>Because it would have just lead to another war?
No it wouldn't have. Not if he wasn't completely retarded. If 6 randos suddenly went missing, do you think anyone would notice or even care?
Asgorefags use this as an excuse to discredit Toriel, even though what she's saying was right. He could have killed 1, went out, got 6, and got the fuck back home before anyone noticed. Then things would resume just as they did in TP.
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>>166377660
He'd get chopped up by a lawnmower or a dog would piss on him.
>>166377689
>hurr this might lead to war
>oh well better declare war
Asgorefags, everybody
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>>166377570
>If he wasn't such a little bitch he could make it all stop at any time. But fear of the unknown drives him to cling to his pathetic, hollow existence.
These would sound more apt if he was a grizzled war veteran and not practically a child.
>>166377727
No, but vengeful goddamn demon goat god started rampaging through the countryside, people would kind of notice.
>>166377483
Nothing stops him from having a life after TP, I'm fine with him not getting back his love or his original form, just give the kid some bloody therapy.
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>>166377689
It would have led to a war that the monsters would have lost right away. Getting the power of a god would have made them win. Asgore didn't want to do the war at all though
>>166377727
except Asgore is unsneaky as fuck and it doesn't solve the issue that the monster race as a whole didn't think humans and monsters could co-exist on account of the whole killing massive amounts of them and locking them underground again. That's why the plan wasn't just to break the barrier but to wipe out the humans so they could actually be safe. Frisk falling down and showing everyone that they were wrong and that it could happen is the entire point of the game
>>166377817
>Asgorefags, everybody
So you're just going to ignore what i'm saying? Typical.
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>>166377920
That third poster is Soriel. Don't engage him.
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>>166377895
>Nothing stops him from having a life after TP
Except... you know, the lack of a soul.
>>166377920
>except Asgore is unsneaky as fuck
Which is why we have furry conventions. Shank a few faggots in suits, steal their souls, and go home wondering if the surface world is even worth living in anymore.
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Do you think Asgore and Toriel became friends again in TP?
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>>166378046
So just ignore the main point I was making? I should stop trying to bother actually talking to you guys when its clear you aren't interested in a real conversation.
>>166378102
sure why not
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>>166377920
>and it doesn't solve the issue that the monster race as a whole didn't think humans and monsters could co-exist
Yeah.
Because Asgore declared war.
You moron.
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>>166378148
Your points are all speculative nonsense. You complain that these actions would result in war, but the alternative that Asgore took was to literally declare war and it's only because of Frisk that a genocide of one side or the other didn't take place.
Seriously, Asgorefags are fucking dumb
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>>166378102
Well he works as a groundskeeper at her school, so I'd say they're on good terms. Or he's just trying to win her favor again.
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>>166378228
Shut up Chara you're dead
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>>166378150
He declared war because humans had shown time and time again they couldn't be trusted and this time they had also fucking killed his kid
Chara was held as the source of hope in the underground because they represented that monsters and humans could actually live in peace. This didn't work and ended with Asriel dead so war was declared because it was that or they rot forever underground because even if they got to the surface again a repeat of the last war would just happen again
>>166378278
Okay I think i'm done here. I don't know why you're so butthurt over this but if you're just going to be an asshole about it and attack me as a person i'm not going to bother giving you more ammunition
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>>166377527
>Like what? Going to the surface and taking six more souls would just have sped up the whole genocide thing.
Sure, if you just go killing people. But store the souls of those near death and no one will even know the difference. This must be possible, otherwise they never could have gotten any souls from the kids.
>he did have Alphys and most likely Gaster studing souls and the barrier so he was looking into alternates
That doesn't really excuse the real problem. He only should have relied on killing once he knew that this wasn't an option - and it still could have been.
>There were none that didn't invole massive amounts of people dying or the monster race losing the will to live
Alphys and Gaster found some.
>This is just wrong
Go play the game. The NPCs mention it in their dialogue.
>Researched what?
See your own post.
You're being purposefully ignorant.
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>>166378414
And that's why Toriel left. Asgore declared war, she wanted to avoid it with a solution that might cause war instead of guarantee it.
>waaah hes being mean to me moooom
This is you. If you want a safe space, fuck off to tumblr
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>>166378414
Stop fucking responding to him.
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>>166378529
Gotcha
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>>166378102
Ever seen parents whose kid died?
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>>166378046
Anon, I don't know how to tell you this, but there are hundreds and thousands of people right this moment who live without the ability to feel empathy and love. In fact, it's a reported side effect of massive PTSD, of which most sufferers have not started going into killing sprees.
Sweet dreams.
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>>166378527
>she wanted to avoid it with a solution that might cause war instead of guarantee it.
except all Toriel did was sit on her ass blaming Asgore for everything and doing a half assed job playing house until the kids wanted to leave at which point she ditched them to die and locked them out of the ruins
but hey she makes us pie so just ignore that!
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>>166378102
Nope. Asgore thought working at the same place might bring them closer together but it's even more awkwardespecially when Toriel's new boyfriend Sans shows up
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>>166378696
Stop giving sorielfag attention
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>>166378686
Yeah, and most of them are living in mental institutions.
>>166378696
Doesn't change the fact that her idea was better than his. Man, dadcucks sure are salty today
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>>166378804
Her idea is pointless when she didn't express it until it was already too late or put it into practice.
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>>166378865
Just fucking report him.
>>166378871
Sorry, rationality is not allowed on /vg/. ALL bait must be taken and the shitposters enabled.
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>>166377920
>Getting the power of a god would have made them win. Asgore didn't want to do the war at all though
That leaves two possible outcomes.
Either he slays humanity which he doesn't want to do but the monsters can take that role and create such kingdom if you encourage them to it. Asgore didn't want this.
Alternatively they destroy the barrier but instead of attacking on humanity, Asgore tries to negotiate peace. He absolutely did not expect this to work because as you've established, he never expected humans and monsters to live together peacefully again.
The fact that there's an actual possibility for peace doesn't really matter here because he doesn't know that and can't operate on assumption like that.
You see why it's not a plan he would/should follow? Or did you not even consider the outcomes of his plan?
If you did it should become evident why it was the wrong thing to do.
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>>166378865
You say that but we have no idea what happened before Toriel decided to leave.
Anyway, she fucked up by leaving her retard husband in charge but that's only a fuck up because he's a fuck up.
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>>166378934
>ditching six kids to go die alone because they refuse to pretend your their mom isn't a fuck up
Momfags everyone! Blaming Toriel's flaws and mistakes on everyone else for over a year now!
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>>166378920
>MAAAAM THE MEAN MAN IS HAVING A CONVERSATION INSTEAD OF MASTURBATING TO ECTO SKELETON VORE BAAAAN HIIIM REEEEE
wewlad
You guys are pathetic.
>>166378925
Either Asgore wipes out humanity so monsters can rule the surface or he starts a war without going through (the more likely outcome) and his people get buttfucked again, this time to extinction
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Oh great, now he's samefagging.
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>>166379043
>ditching six kids to die
Yeah, because her husband kept killing them. If he wasn't a violent sociopath to begin with Toriel's actions would have been blameless
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>>166379063
Fuck off you retarded piece of shit.
Reminder you continued to pull this shit after someone admitted to self-harming because of your terrible posts.
You are literally the most unrepentant cunt on the face of the fucking planet.
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asgore's dick
toriel's boobs
frisk'sAAAA
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>>166378925
>why it was the wrong thing to do.
of course it was the wrong thing to do? I at no point said it was right. I was explaining WHY he did what he did because someone asked about it. I never said he was blameless but apparently momfags / Sorielfags are so butthurt they missed that little fact
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>>166378414
Just because there's an insult in the argument doesn't make the rest of it wrong.
If you really think that you know him just turning up on the surface, searching for souls would have triggered a new war then you're pretending your headcanon is right.
Think it up a bit more. Worst case scenario, and that's still IF he would fail, they capture Asgore wandering about. Then what?
Explain the process of how this situation could lead to another war between humanity and monsters. Don't forget that humans weren't even aware of the monster society at the time so they didn't exactly have a beef with them anymore.
This is why he called you out on being speculative, and nonsense because you have nothing to support this assumption.
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>>166379087
Don't spook himFrom asshole he going to be black hole. Just look at this amazing singularity.
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>>166379239
Why are you arguing with yourself? That isn't healthy.
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>>166379180
>its okay to let six kids go get killed by someone when you have the power to stop them from getting killed because you aren't killing them yourself
Momfag logic!
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>>166378696
>except all Toriel did was sit on her ass blaming Asgore
Are you just falseflagging dadposters or are you actually ignoring canon that hard?
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>>166379180
lmao you are literally tumblr nigga cyberbullying ain't even real just turn away from the monitor nigga like sheeeeit
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>>166379361
>duhhh tumblr hurrrrrrrrr
Go get shot by a cop, darkie.
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>>166379358
*Just beat the game kiddo.
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>>166379239
Then stop defending him for it.
>I never said he was blameless
That's also pretty far from admitting that what he did was pretty fucked up and bad kingdom leadership.
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>>166379358
>ignoring canon
>Toriel left
>six kids fell
>she let all six leave and if Frisk is anything to go by even locked the door on their ass so they couldn't get back in to safety if they changed their mind
but no Toriel is a wonderful person that is in no way a piece of shit! After all Asgore KILLED PEOPLE that makes everything she did instantly better and makes her perfect! There is not such thing as shades of people being shit
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>>166379180
Even though I agree with you that he's a cunt, it's not really his fault that someone is cutting themselves. If someone's going to get hurt by mean comments on the internet, 4chan is probably not a good place to be.
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Remember that only Sorielfag defends Asgore by saying it was Toriel's fault the kids got killed.
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>>166379483
>>>/srg/
/v/ is too good for you.
Pic related, it's you.
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>>166379180
What he said. He's a cunt, and you're enabling him. Hard. You're literally giving him a job.
>>166379551
Stop.
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>>166379473
I literally only said why he did what he did. Stop projecting
>>166379525
Its almost like multiple people can share the blame in something happening or that multiple people can be shitty people in different ways
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>>166379525
Here can be a chance that sorielfag is woman, and her ex stole her children?
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So momfags don't think Toriel did anything wrong when she locked seven kids out of the ruins to go get killed alone?
Do I understand this right?
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>>166379481
Stop arguing with yourself. It's actually fucking pathetic.
>>166379621
>I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-IT'S OKAY WHEN *WE* DO IT THOUGH
I can tell that the only time you will regret everything you've ever done is before the overdose that takes your fucking life.
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>>166379330
It's bad, but actually killing 6 kids is objectively worse.
Either way, it's Asgore's fault for going full autism after Asriel died
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>>166379682
>Here can be a chance that sorielfag is woman
close, nu-male.
>>166379718
hi soriel
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>>166379551
???
I guess now I get why people like Sorielfag like to bait you guys into oblivion.
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>>166379756
It's not our fault that the mods are shitposters themselves. Literally the only time he was ever banned was when he spammed scat porn.
That is literally the ONLY time they'll ever deal with him.
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>>166379483
He's a silly little cuck who cuts himself over mean things said by people anonymously over the internet. He should probably kill himself desu
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>>166379551
Jesus christ the cringe.
>>166379736
This. Things in order.
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>>166379736
Its not Asgores fault that Toriel ditched the kids. Its his fault for killing them but he has an actual reason for doing what he did
Toriel on the other hand literally had no reason to lock them out of the ruins or leave them to go die alone when she had it in her power to stop them from leaving and getting killed at any point.
Shes a complete piece of shit
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>>166379718
the door is usually locked, sans mentions it when you talk with him in the hotel restaurant. and toriel seems to regularly hang out there, so if a kid came back scared for their life, she'd probably let them in.
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>>166379852
>LE KWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINJE!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Fuck off.
>>166379838
Follow your own advice, Soriel.
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>>166379718
They wanted to leave and she only locked the door after you beat her.
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>>166379742
>nu-male
Oh my, it's ...! What is it?
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Best buds
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>>166379742
>actually using the term nu-male unironically
Congratulations, you are literally just as bad.
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>>166379914
Yes its locked because she locks it. Notice that its not locked post game! Also notice that she could have at any point blown up the door so they couldn't leave and get themselves killed but never does because ???????????????????
>>166379925
>they wanted to leave
They're also kids and you don't let children go wonder off when you know they are going to die just because they want to leave. Are you really that dumb?
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>>166379832
>caring this much about internet trolls
>ignoring that trolls literally exist to make you care like this
evaluate your life and stop posting
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>>166378804
>Doesn't change the fact that her idea was better than his
Remember how Asriel and Chara died? How do you think the human soul that Asgore murdered and then absorbed would react? Toriel couldn't know, but canon vindicates her idea as stupid.
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If you wonder why the unique poster count keeps dwindling every thread, you know who to blame.
>>166380034
Literally every fucking thread I go in is inevitably inundated with shit. I'm fucking cursed.
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>>166379894
>but he has an actual reason for doing what he did
Yeah - he wants to absorb their souls so he can kill even more people
>>166380024
They were doing fine until Asgore murdered them.
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>>166379953
grown by tumblr
>>166380015
deal with it, it's what we come here for
getting touchy is why it already applies here
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>>166379832
Whatever. Posts like >>166379551 make me want to quit this place a thousand times more than Sorielfag.
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>>166380102
>How do you think the human soul that Asgore murdered and then absorbed would react?
Beats me, they didn't have much of a problem when Asriel was using them to play god.
>but headcanon vindicates her idea as stupid
FTFY
Asgore's ideas was guaranteed stupid. Toriel's was only potentially stupid. When given the choice between the two, the latter is obviously better.
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>>166379159
>The kids died due to the cold, not because I didn't open my door during a blizzard!!"
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>>166380114
>Literally every fucking thread I go in is inevitably inundated with shit. I'm fucking cursed.
Actually you're just a dumbass who keeps bringing it upon himself but I don't expect you to see it, at least not yet.
If you did you'd have stopped.
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>>166380127
>Yeah - he wants to absorb their souls so he can kill even more people
Confirmed being a dumb retard that completely ignored his motivations.
>They were doing fine until Asgore murdered them.
Something that Toriel knew would happen and that she let happen by making them leave
WOW its almost like Toriel's actions are complete shit that makes no sense and you have to shit on Asgore and people that like him to distract from the fact that she let six fucking kids wonder off to go die when she knew they would die and she had the power to stop them from dying at literally any point!
Momfags are such shit even if I do like some of you guys
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>>166380197
>sorielfag try to falseflag
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>>166380247
That bitch is literally killing these threads, and i'm not gonna let him get away with it.
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>>166380226
Last I checked snow doesn't stake you to death with a trident
>Confirmed being a dumb retard that completely ignored his motivations
Just like what you're doing with Toriel, hmm?
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>>166380271
Killing kids > letting kids die
One is murder, the other is criminal negligence
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>>166380351
What are Toriels motivations for not blowing up the door and keeping those kids safe? Go ahead and give me one reason to justify why it was better to let them leave knowing they were going to die instead of keeping them safe?
Moms don't let their kids stick a fork into an electrical plug just because they want to
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>>166380197
This. I can avoid trolls and keep the place neat, but there's barely anything you can do about other idiots who always bite - and those always lure in more trolls.
That's why biters are more harmful than baiters. They also end up deflecting actual points and arguments because they don't agree with them, and can't tell a difference between someone actually disagreeing and someone just pretending to to annoy them.
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>>166380224
Do you not understand the difference between rando monster and creature designed to hold and wield souls?
>>166380351
I'm pretty sure the cause of death matters very little, when your neglience enables it.
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>>166380446
Asgore had an entire race to look after and he did what he did ONLY for them. He put himself before his people
Toriel had zero reason to let them die and let them leave for no reason at all. Toriel put herself and her feelings before not only her own people but also the six kids
Wow its almost like Toriel is a complete piece of shit!
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>>166380302
I think I'm just gonna think that this is sorielfag samefagging for a long time now because he couldn't get anyone to bite.
hi soriel
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>>166380576
Compare me to that faggot ever again and I will fucking end you.
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>>166380447
>What are Toriels motivations for not blowing up the door and keeping those kids safe?
Why the fuck would she blow up the door?
>Go ahead and give me one reason
She was hoping one of them would kill Asgore I guess. Honestly she should have done it herself, but I guess she lacked the guts.
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>>166380284
>implying
I'm not the only one who thinks this way. See >>166380470. Maybe if you guys were a bit less autistic, this place would be better. You really are digging your own graves here.
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>>166380627
hi soriel
you can stop posting now
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>>166380634
>She was hoping one of them would kill Asgore I guess. Honestly she should have done it herself, but I guess she lacked the guts.
What is this, Highlander?
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I want to wash Asgore's back!
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>>166380569
>when your neglience enables it
Tell it to the judges senpai
>>166380573
>He put himself before his people
So did Hitler.
Asgore is LITERALLY Hitler
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>>166380627
You will do nothing.
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I have yet to ever see a single momfag from these threads or anywhere else justify why it was okay for Toriel to let six kids go get themselves killed when she had the power to stop it at any point and why this doesn't make her a complete monster
>>166380634
>Why the fuck would she blow up the door?
To stop them from leaving
You know the thing that she was trying to do in the actual game to keep Frisk safe? Are you really so retarded that you completely missed that? I mean I don't expect a momfag to actually think about things when they can just blame everything on someone else but hey I thought maybe you had actually played the game
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>>166380470
No matter what, these threads are fucking doomed because the game includes furry characters.
Soriel will kill these threads like mexi-kun killed the Morenatsu threads.
Oh look, the mods disabled the report button AGAIN. Really helping your case there.
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>>166380573
Toriel put herself and her feelings before not only her own people but also the six kids
And in this case it was the right thing to do
>>166380692
There can be only one.
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>>166379525
>>166379525
Reminder.
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>>166380671
>bitter sorielfag
Something more then blah blah can you?
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>>166380824
>And in this case it was the right thing to do
>it was the right thing to let six kids go get themselves killed when she could have stopped it at any point by blowing up the door and removing from them the option to go get killed
>this is literally what momfags think
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Do you guys remember the part in Undertale where Papyrus finally perfects his spaghetti recipe, and is becoming independent from Daddy Sans. So Papyrus decides to share his gift and gives out his delicious spaghetti for free and makes a big event out of it. However, to make sure his little bro wouldn't leave him and grow up, Daddy sans poisoned all the spapghetti and ended up killing most of the underground, and told Papyrus that he was clearly still mentally challenged and couldn't cook a pasta and that he should stay with big daddy snas and Papyrus continued to live with daddy sansy and had no idea.
My favorite part.
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>>166380893
>>166380820
hi soriel
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Remember the part in Undertale when Papyrus discovered protein spaghetti that gave him very muscular bones?
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>>166380773
Sorry, while I was reading your incoherent babble I must have assumed you thought Toriel was an ISIS member and wanted to blow up the door.
She didn't blow it up because 6 kids hadn't died at that time I guess. She's kind of an idiot. The entire Dreemurr family are. I think it's because they're inbred. I mean, have you seen any other goats around? Didn't think so.
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>>166380985
There you go with another fucking proxy.
>HI LE SOWIEL LOL!!
Stop accusing others of being you.
I was honestly in a good mood until I opened this thread.
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>>166380893
>>166380985hm, you missedreally
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Extra-large goat.
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>>166380773
>I have yet to ever see a single momfag from these threads or anywhere else justify why it was okay for Toriel to let six kids go get themselves killed when she had the power to stop it at any point
It doesn't, but it's better than killing them herself. So if you're going to fetishize a goat, you might as well pick the one who did the least wrong.
>like mexi-kun killed the Morenatsu threads
>killing the gay barashit furry threads
What a fucking hero
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>>166381035
My favorite bones.
>You will nEver lick his thick milky bones
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Reminder that /vg/ mods literally disable the report button if one of their pet shitposters is reported several times.
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>>166380893
You are retarded.
>>166381037
>getting mad over a chinese anime imageboard
The best part is that you guys kill this place a thousand times more than Sorielfag just because you can't contain your own autism.
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>>166381037
I just woke up. I think >>166380576 is right and even if he isn't, it doesn't matter because him or not, you're just as or even harmful
so that's the treatmebt you should get either way
hi soriel
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>>166381036
So this is where you try and pretend that you weren't defending Toriel's completely undefendable actions that were literally only done for her own benfit and no one elses
>>166381134
>It doesn't, but it's better than killing them herself
It literally amounts to the same fucking thing. Toriel had the power to stop anyone else from dying at any point with no cost or risk to herself but not only did she not do it but she in fact locked them out of the ruins so they couldn't even go back if they change their mind
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>>166381203
Something more then OH U RETARD can you?
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I'm fucking done.
Fuck you Soriel. You have killed my interest in this game.
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>>166381304
hi soriel
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>>166381347
goodbye soriel
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>>166381134
>So if you're going to fetishize a goat, you might as well pick the one who did the least wrong.
Yeah I think I'll like the goat who at least had a reason for doing the bad thing he did and knows he did something bad over the goat that had zero reason for doing what she did and doesn't acknowledge that her actions got six kids killed and that she could have prevented it at any point if she wasn't such a shit person
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>>166381143
>tries to spam reports instead of reporting all the posts at once
>blames /vg/, shitposters and mods for not understanding how 4chan works
Fuck off retarded newfag.
I'm just gonna stop posting until he leaves.
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Let's calm down with a serene Starbound soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh6clC4nI3k
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>>166381414
Fuck off and die. You are just as bad as him for being an accusatory little shit.
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>>166380773
The only thing I wish is that you didn't make all your posting this fucking obvious. Every single post you do like this follows the exact same pattern.
>every Xfag does this
>I don't expect Xfags to understand
>Xfags, everyone!
Every single post you make it the exact same copy, over and over and over again.
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>>166381506
And it gets enablers like you.
Every.
Single.
Fucking.
Time.
You are fucking worthless.
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No really though what was Toriel thinking when she let six kids go die? Why did she let them leave? Is she just a shit person? Did she not have any use for them since they didn't want to play house anymore?
Why would such a perfect and nice lady let six children die when she had it in her power to save them?
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>>166381471
Do people even still play Starbound?
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>>166381473
You rude as him. And he now assblowed, cause he did'n play game actually, so that is YOU sorielfag, and you retarded tumblr shit and need huge penis inside your throat to dead.Tu yebishe
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>>166380051
Hey mods, you forgot a few. As in like 90 posts.
>>166381714
wat
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>>166381687
I still love it. Though, people loves more Stardew Valley.
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>>166381347
Good riddance you self absorbed hormonal kid.
>>166381473
Oh wow lel never mind.
>>166381506
>the sky is blue
In case you have not noticed you're the only one throwing a fit and preaching about what others already consider the obvious.
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>>166381730
Too long for your mind? Short versionTu yebishe
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>>166381260
>It literally amounts to the same fucking thing
Only because Asgore kills them.
She had the least involvement in their deaths out of the two. If both were brought to court for their actions, she'd get off with criminal negligence and he'd get the electric chair.
You are so autismal it's amazing
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>>166381778
I mean, I enjoyed it a lot. It even had a general at one point, but now i don't have anyone to play it with and it's just sitting in my steam library.
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>>166381347
nigga I'm not even soriel I don't even know who that is y'all just a bunch of triggered ass bitches
>>166381420
>yeah I think I'll just be a fucking faggot
FTFY
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>>166381908
Oh, okay.
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>>166381672
>Why would such a perfect and nice lady let six children die when she had it in her power to save them?
Because humans are literally subhuman
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This is why Toriel is easily my least favorite character. Asgore fucked up hard and is a murderer but his actions still had a positive effect for his people. Toriel literally had zero reasons for what she did and yet people still praise her as the perfect flawless mom even though she let six children die when she could have saved them and it would have cost her nothing
>>166381875
Its not real though. They're characters in a video game and of the two Asgore is clearly a much better person despite doing much worse things.e Toriel is just a total piece of shit who had zero reasons for doing what she did/.
>>166381971
>I have no defense so i'm just going to call you a faggot!
lol okay
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>>166382070
Also that lady is shit.
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>>166379525
>>166379525
R E M I N D E R
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sans is cool
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>>166382085
>Its not real though.
Then why do you treat it like it is?
If I had to invite one over for dinner, I'd invite the one who isn't a child murderer and can make a mean butterscotch cinnamon pie
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Shut the fuck up about fucking goats, they all deserve bullet in REVOLUTION.
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>>166382268
Really? Cause I would invite the one who killed someone because it benefited thousands of people and clearly feels remorse for his actions over the one who let someone die because shes a selfish prick and doesn't give a shit about anyone but herself
But I guess if you're a retard that doesn't actually give a fuck about the character but just wants to jerk off over a MILF or have her pretend to be your mom yours makes more sense
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>>166382268
he says a bit of that and then a bit of this to get replies from you
this is how it works
>>166382364
goats are fine
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>>166382424
>Cause I would invite the one who killed someone because it benefited thousands of people
Man, if you were in charge of the justice system you'd let all the murderers go because they're sowwy
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>>166382516
>retard doesn't understand what the point of the justice system is
Not shocked
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>>166382494
okay
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Chara's butt!
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>>166382559
The point is Asgore would fry in a chair for killing 6 kids
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>>166382516
I like how this has nothing to do with what I said but you have to keep moving the goal posts because you know that Toriel is a complete piece of shit and easily the worst character in the game and if it wasn't for the mom thing no one would have any reason to like her
>>166382757
Except neither of them fry! Both of them are happy after the game ends!
But Toriel is still a terrible and shit person and that won't change regardless of what other people do.
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>>166382828
Stop answer to him please he isDEBIL
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>>166382940
cześć, soriel
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>>166382828
>But Toriel is still a terrible and shit person and that won't change regardless of what other people do
Psst... neither will Asgore. Remember when he takes back his apology for trying to kill you? He has no moral compass.
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>>166344142
Business Toriel comes home from a long day at the office. Slides off her heels and ask you to massage her nylon clad feet.
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>>166382940
No I want to see how he tries to justify Toriel being a good person even though she had no reason for doing anything she did.
Hell I want to see ANYONE justify that because I would love to like Toriel but I can't look past the fact that she literally locked the door behind six children that she could have saved at any point! Asgore at least had his people to look for and will kill himself over it. Toriel just doesn't give a fuck beyond her own feelings
>>166383020
Except he does! He did worse things but hes still a better person than Toriel
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>>166382828
>Both of them are happy
lmao
tell that to mr. my-wife-hates-me-and-my-son-is-dead
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>>166383134
Still waiting on that defense on why Toriel isn't a piece of shit for abandoning six kids to die when she could have saved them at any point!
Come on anon I know you can do it!
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>>166383110
>He did worse things but hes still a better person than Toriel
That makes no sense, nor does it matter.
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>>166383005
nopeposhol na hui pidor
>>166383110
he ran out of arguments, also he don't play game and only now know about toriel wish to destroy door.
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>>166383248
are you actually retarded? You can do worse things than someone and still be a better person because motivation is a huge reason on what makes someone a good person or not.
>>166383330
Would be pretty typical
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both toriel and asgore suck
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>>166383230
I don't have one. Because it doesn't matter because what she did still isn't as bad as what Asgore did.
She trusted the kids, which was stupid. But at the end of the day Asgore killed every last one.
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Goat is forbully!!!
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>>166383356
all the goats suck
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>>166383360
>trusted the kids
She didn't. She let them all leave to go get murdered. She knew they wouldn't be able to survive and yet she let them leave anyways when she had the power to save them all
>But at the end of the day Asgore killed every last one.
And yet in the end hes still a better person! Shocking!
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>>166383346
>because motivation is a huge reason on what makes someone a good person or not
lolno
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>>166383346
>motivation is a huge reason on what makes someone a good person or not.
Stop taking advice from Hitler/liberals.
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>>166383356
This guy gets it
>>166383454
>She didn't
Exactly. She trusted them and they died. Your claim that she knew they were going to die is headcanon
>>
So while the one or two people keep arguing in circles, anyone read any good fics lately? I hesitate to jump into anything long, besides Soul Dichromatism right now (it has gotefrisk and war, what more do you need), but I wouldn't mind suggestions.
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>>166383548
Like I told you: Asgore is LITERALLY Hitler
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>>166383605
The Story Where Frisk Fuck The Chara AGAIN
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>>166383465
Yes actually or do you think your a good person because you don't commit crimes? The reason you do things is what determines if your a worthwhile person and Asgores actions befitted thousands and thousands of people and he even had the humuinilty to know what he did was wrong and think he was shit
Toriels actions benefited no one and only brought herself and others pain
Both of their actions costs the goats but only Asgores had a positive effect for other people. That's why hes a better person
>>166383559
>Your claim that she knew they were going to die is headcanon
holy shit you are dumb
>>166383548
lol so we're at this point huh? You've completely run out of arguments and are just sprouting buzzwords
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>>166383708
>Yes actually or do you think your a good person because you don't commit crimes?
Yes.
Because I'm not a nigger
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>>166383346
>because motivation is a huge reason on what makes someone a good person or not.
This is what people who don't/can't do good tell themselves.
Good people do the right thing. Yes, it can be difficult but not faltering even then is what makes them good people.
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>>166383768
Whatever helps you sleep at night
>>166383780
>Good people do the right thing.
This is so fucking naive
>Yes, it can be difficult but not faltering even then is what makes them good people.
Toriel didn't do either of those things so by your own words shes a shit person? Glad we agree for once
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>>166383708
>Your claim that she knew they were going to die is headcanon
Any of those humans could have killed Asgore if they tried hard enough.
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>>166383780
According to Aristotelian ethics, goodness is determined by habituation of good behaviors in order to alter one's character state. Furthermore, it asserts that a moderate approach in accordance with one's telos is the best way to live life.
Toriel's telos is to bake pies, therefore by baking pies she is living morally according to Aristotle. So long as she's not baking too many or too few pies.
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>>166383870
Keep going and trying to claim that Toriel didn't think six kids were going to die when faced against a monster king that had already killed before. That might have worked for the first one but fuck no after that and that still leave six that she let leave knowing they would most likely die
but hey you can't clearly defend Toriel actions and all you can do is shit on Asgore to try to try and change the subject from that so whatever I've already won
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Six kids do suicide, what the fuck you all talking about!?
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>>166383708
>do you think your a good person because you don't commit crimes?
Not him but that helps.
If you only thought about not doing crimes but still did then you're a bad person.
Conversely if you think about committing a crime and don't follow through it's your actions that mattered, not your thoughts or motivations.
Not doing crime is kinda what's expected of us so it doesn't make you a good person by itself but it also won't make you any worse.
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So momfags stance is that Toriel is great because Asgore sucks
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>>166384028
I don't think she knew how they died, or that they died at all. She was supposed to be cut off from the rest of the underground, remember? So how the fuck did she know any of the other kids had died? Did Sans tell her?
Toby you fucking hack
And I shit on Asgore because he's a murderer
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If Toriel had have forced the children to stay you would have been calling her a cunt for that too, so it doesn't matter what anyone says, you obviously just want to hate the character.
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>>166383848
Calling the brave and the strong naive is just your excuse.
The difference isn't whether they see the same problems as you or not, but whether they can deal with the problems you think are too difficult to come over.
Making excuses makes you a bad person.
Also, lol no.
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Clearly the only realistic TP aftermath is Asgore trialed in Nuremberg, while CPS takes Frisk away from Toriel and back into the orphanage where worthless determined children belong
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>>166384107
>>166384367
>i could have saved six people with almost no effort and it would have only had a positive consequence on all of our lives but instead I let them die
>this makes me not a bad person!
retard
>>166384280
This is bullshit. If they had been forced to stay they would still be alive even if they were unhappy. I don't want to dislike Toriel but I see no reason to like her either just because she made me a pie and pretend to be my mom for 5 mins before locking me outside her house.
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>>166384154
Yeah, pretty much. Also because MILF
>>166384280
Also this. Although there's no reason she couldn't have gone with them. All the Dreemurrs are fucking cowards
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>>166384280
Don't worry he's just desperately going all out.
He always spams posts like this to try and appear have consensus when he is really desperate.
Just don't reply.
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>>166384370
All this has done is prove to me once and for all that momfags can't justify Toriel's actions so they just ignore it and pretend it didn't happen
>>166384471
I figured
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>>166384367
You've never even heard of the prisoner's dilemma, have you?
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>>166384471
and what would that accomplish?
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>>166384370
Exactly.
>>166384387
>If they had been forced to stay they would still be alive even if they were unhappy
And that's a pretty shitty life too.
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>>166384558
These people are retard and most likely are unable to think about something beyond
>bad thing is bad because its bad!
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Danm, what did I miss?
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>>166384674
Kill yoursefl. Seriously.
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>>166384674
The same fighting we always had.
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>>166384576
Don't reply. He insults people like this whenever he's mad he's not getting any serious replies.
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>>166384576
>And that's a pretty shitty life too.
But its a life! Instead she choose to let them all die instead of having to do something morally questionable
Think about that for a moment. She would rather let six kids die than have to actually do something that might not make her a 'good' person
>>166384754
Fuck off already. I have yet to see anyone defend any of this
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>>166384510
Who said the standard we aim for is justification? I'm content knowing that she's less of a shit than Asgore. That's enough for me.
Being morally superior to him is the only justification needed in this thread.
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>>166384708
>not kys
Kys
>>166384730
Just like home, I persume.
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soriel suck a lot of anons dicks. again.
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>>166384828
>I'm content knowing that she's less of a shit than Asgore. That's enough for me.
Shes a worse person though
>Being morally superior to him is the only justification needed in this thread.
Yeah but shes actually morally worse
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>>166384565
She could pussywhip Asgore just like she does when Frisk shows up in TP
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>>166384674
Sorielfag trying to lay it on Torielfags again by pitting Asgorefags against them.
People don't actually dislike her enough to care so he samefags and tries to go 'yeah, they so bad' as usual.
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>>166384952
>People don't actually dislike her enough to care
I dislike Toriel for all the reasons I listed. You can ignore them but that's the truth
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>>166384789
>But its a life!
Yeah. Trapped in a tiny crumbling garden with a lady who'll feed you snails every day.
And once again, I never said she was a "good" person. The only genuinely good person in Undertale is Papyrus, but that's because he's autistic.
Everyone else in Undertale is a piece of shit
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I still like this goatsorry
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>>166385086
Literally did nothing wrong
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>>166384912
But she's not. Because she's not a murderer. You talk about motivation, but Toriel proves Asgore killed 5x as many children as he needed to
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>>166385135
Me too.not fucking sorry
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>>166385179
>Toriel proved Asgore killed 5x as many children as she needed to
She didn't prove shit and Toriel still let seven children walk to their deaths then she needed to, and she doesn't even have a reason for that like he does as shitty as his reason is AND she still thinks that she is a good person
Toriel is trash
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>>166385135
Me threeFuck haters
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>>166385160
They chopped their arms off so that frisk has to do even more work escapinh. Fucking asshole
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>>166385274
>He doesn't remember the part of Undertale where Alphys lured MKid into her lab with candy before strapping him down on a table and cutting off his arms with a rusty hacksaw
Fucking secondary.
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well soriel talked with himself
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>>166385135
You should be
you monster
>>166385160
Fantasized about committing violence against his teachers because he has no arms
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I have been her for over a year and not a single person has given me a reason to dislike Asgore beyond what I already know and accept about his character or a reason to like Toriel beyond what I already know and don't like about her
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>>166385263
>still let seven children
Frisk ain't no pussy nigga
Anyway, Toriel let six kids die, Asgore killed five more kids than was necessary to free everyone.
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>>166385428
*ONLY THE BAD TEACHERS!
MKid is a paragon of justice, wholesome and pure.
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>>166385269
>child murderer
>let children die
>dead child and also soulless genocidal flower
>a fucking demon
The Dreemurrs were a mistake. They're nothing but trash
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>>166385561
yeah and? I still think Toriel is a trash character even if shes more mild
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>>166385693
tbf Alphys is partially responsible for the Flowey debacle. Well, her and Asgore. Had they not held onto the SOULs and tried to use their power individually, he never would've came to be in the first place.
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reminder that this whole thing started because someone said something bad about Toriel and people got butthurt over it
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>>166385398
I am Soriel, for we are many.
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>>166385849
I like Asgore and Asriel though because their content was really good and I want to hug them
Toriel can go die in a fire for all I care
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>>166385463
It's almost like we've discussed the fucking game to death and there is literally nothing else to talk about except to bicker endlessly until this place finally dries up and dies.
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>>166385857
there shitpost only youcause u have no live
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>>166385721
Well at least you admit you're probably wrong
>>166385938
Psst, newsflash: you're fucking gay
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>>166386062
>both of those are mine
kek
I don't think i'm wrong but I do not give a shit about Toriel because her in-game content is bad and I think shes a trash person. Asgore and Asriel are at least saved by having actual good content
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>>166385135
>>166385269
Way ahead of you!
Not sorry either!
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Its okay guys. We were due for one of these debates anyways so now that its all out of the way we can go back to enjoying our favorites next thread and ignore the people trying to start shit
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>>166385463
I wonder if you'd still feel that way once he asked you to provide one more soul for him.
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>>166386293
Yeah I would still like him. What kind of dumb question is that when it literally happens in the game? I did actually play it you know
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>>166386150
>Asgore and Asriel are at least saved by having actual good content
Asgore maybe, but Asriel is trash after you actually meet him. He was better as a footnote in a story you hear while crossing through New Home
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>>166386456
I consider Flowey and Asriel the same person so all their content is the same in my mind and Flowey had good content. Or at least enough to make me like him. hes not my favorite or even in the top 4
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>>166386372
>Asgore getting the seven souls and shattering the barrier literally happens in the game
...
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another rodeo of soriel ass
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>>166386526
Well we did have a really good boss fight where I beat him so he didn't get my soul. It was a lot of fun and really well done so it just made me like him more
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Hello /utg/!
I'm taking somemusicalrequests.
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>>166386835
make a lullaby that toriel used to sing to asriel
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>>166386609
The point is to deny him what he wants even if it means fucking him up in combat. There's a reason every player has to go through that part no matter how peaceful.
Some acts must have repercussions.
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gote!
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>>166386942
>The point is to deny him what he wants even if it means fucking him up in combat
He doesn't want to do it though? And it had combat because its a video game
>There's a reason every player has to go through that part no matter how peaceful.
Because its really cool and a nice twist on the gameplay before that]
>Some acts must have repercussions.
Why would I want to punish something for having a good boss fight?
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>>166386495
>I consider Flowey and Asriel the same person so all their content is the same in my mind and Flowey had good content
They're not. Asriel doesn't even want you to associate them.
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>>166387105
Nah they're the same character.
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>>166387105
Asriel can suck my dick.
Hopefully
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>>166386609
>Well we did have a really good boss fight where I beat him so he didn't get my soul
It was good, but it's overshadowed by the genocide bossfights.
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>>166387021
Adorbs.
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>>166387030
>He doesn't want to do it though?
He actually does though. It might be because of the circumstances, but he ultimately does want to do it.
>And it had combat because its a video game
>Because its really cool and a nice twist on the gameplay before that]
Not at all. In a game where violence is completely unnecessary and optional, the one point where you're forced to fight is there to make a point.
One rarely gets away with killing others forever. Sooner or later you're going to get killed yourself. And even when peace is always preferred, when someone makes the mistake of denying themselves it, you might be forced to respond with violence yourself. That's the lesson here, sometimes it's the right thing to do.
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So can Gaster see everyone masturbate and all that? Do monsters masturbate?
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>>166387213
>It was good, but it's overshadowed by the genocide bossfights.
Meh
Undying was the only boss fight as fun to play and even then it fell short from an emotional stand point to me. Sans was just an unfun chore
>>166387425
>He actually does though. It might be because of the circumstances, but he ultimately does want to do it.
Okay so?
>all this other stuff
Who cares about any of that when the fight was fun? Its a video game
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>>166387550
>Meh
Looks like we have a case of terrible taste.
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>>166387681
You misunderstand
Undyning was fucking great but it didn't have as much of an impact on me. Sans fight is overrated and unfun though
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>>166387425
God you are such a fucking casual
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>>166387550
>Okay so?
Clearly you agree with my point.
>Who cares about any of that when the fight was fun? Its a video game
>ignoring good morality questions just because they're in the form of video game
Toby would be sad.
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>>166387836
The morality stuff doesn't make it not a good boss fight or give me a reason to dislike it. Also I think you all are reading a bit too much into Undertales story
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>>166387724
Anon, are you by any chance a gay furry?
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>>166387819
Was to >>166387724
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>>166387909
>The morality stuff doesn't make it not a good boss
We're discussing the character not the boss fight.
>Also I think you all are reading a bit too much into Undertales story
Toby has made it very clear he wanted to convey a message with the game.
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>>166387819
>>166387926
I'm sorry but the build up and the emotional payoff during Asgores fight overshadows Undyings boss fight despite her boss fight being more fun.
>>166388019
>We're discussing the character not the boss fight.
No I wasn't? I just said I liked his boss fight.
>Toby has made it very clear he wanted to convey a message with the game.
Well he did a pretty bad job desu
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>>166388019
Thank god he put game first and message second though. I like Undertale and for the interesting questions it poses for some of the characters, along with its very hopeful and positive resolution, but Toby just kept crunching nothing but the message constantly, I probably would have grown tired of it by the halfway point.
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>>166388019
>>166388075
If Toby wanted me to hate Asgore and Asriel he did a pretty shit job. Should have given me more reasons to like Alphys and Toriel instead
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Afternoon utg! How are you doing today?
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>>166388395
Momfags / Soriel are being butthurt and trying to get people to hate Asgore and dadfags again
or maybe its the other way around? Or maybe both are just being dumb
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>>166388075
But what about the character?
>Well he did a pretty bad job desu
Thousands of fans who voiced their opinion indicate otherwise.
What I also said goes in line with what Flowey says at the very end. You can't always resolve things peacefully. The trick is knowing when you can and when you can't. In Undertale, you're given powers to go back in time, allowing you to do more than you normally could.
>>166388206
>Thank god he put game first and message second though.
Because he built the game around his main message he didn't have to compromise either.
That's the real genius of Undertale, the gameplay as well as the idea around it flow together perfectly. You don't have this disconnect where the game would first force you to kill anyone and then reprimand you for it.
>>166388312
>If Toby wanted me to hate Asgore and Asriel he did a pretty shit job.
Why do you think he wanted that?
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>>166388395
Didn't sleep well last night, so I'm just staying in bed for a while.
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All of the Dreemurrs should be euthanized desu
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>>166388395
Sorielfag pretends to hate Toriel and defend Asgore with retarded arguments to get people to hate either side.
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>>166388464
>Why do you think he wanted that?
I don't but a lot of people here do and go as far as to say if you like either of them you're a shit person that missed the point of the game
see the last 200ish posts
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>>166388558
Aww I'm sorry anon. I hope you feel better.
>>166388579
Ah I see.
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>>166388589
Don't be dense, that's sorielfag alone posting that. It's just what he does.
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>>166388464
>But what about the character?
I like him
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>>166388395
Sorielfag got some dadfag angry who is now shitposting with people discussung morality.
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>>166388395
Chocolate
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>>166388762
to be fair most of that was my honest feelings. I actually don't like Toriel for all the reasons I mentioned
I was shit posting a bit though cause i'm ready for a new therad
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>>166388395
Dealing with the emptiness inside.
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>>166388689
>what would have been worst character became best character
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>>166388828
Nom.
>>166388934
You should strive to keep the thread good to the end. We've got like 70 replies and 40 images to go.
That way you'll have more people who feel like posting at the start of a new one.
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>>166388464
>But what about the character?
I feel sorry for pretty much all of them. Something happened to most of the characters that damaged and derailed them and none of them seem able to get past it on their own.
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>>166387461
>Do monsters masturbate?
Yes. It's canon they do. You can find anime porn covered in Alphys's juices in her place. Because she's fucking disgusting.
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>someone said something negative towards Toriel
>it must have just been shit posting!
Really? Did you ever think it was possible that some people just don't like Toriel?
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>>166389187
don't start that shit again
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Sneaky goat dad
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>>166389187
Those who don't like Toriel aren't people
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>>166389346
Shit hasn't started until someone has replied:^)
>>166389362
>sneaky
Not with that mass.
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>>166371212
>expecting not to be disappointed by the hack
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>>166389346
Why not? I want my opinion heard. Too many people here think Toriel is a flawless character that didn't do anything wrong and just write off all her fuck ups as being Asgores fault so they can pretend shes a perfect wonderful mom
I'm tired of it
>>166389442
Sorry that I don't like a woman who abandoned six kids to die for no reason then her own pride.
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Stealth Chara
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Toriel and Asgore might have their shortcomings but they're also the reason we have the best goat.
Them doing something that good means all their sins should be instantly forgiven.
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>>166389462
fuck you:^)
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papyrus rules
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>>166389528
Better than liking a murderer who killed six kids for no reason then his people's pride
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>>166389576
Go home Sans.
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>>166388395
Bit tired after that marathon yesterday.Two goddamn utg threads in a row...
But i'm still happy with everything that happened today.
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>>166388942*hug
>>166388828
Chocolate is good!
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>>166389528
Be better than that shit
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>>166389616
>momfags literally can't justify liking Toriel and have to just shit on Asgore
kek
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>>166389562
>but they're also the reason we have the best goat.
But we don't.
Because he's a soulless talking flower.
Which means they've literally done nothing right.
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Look at him go again
No doubt /utg/ will bite
>>166389706
>>166389696
All too easy
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>>166389696
>Be better than that shit
why should I when people do shit like this >>166389616
Maybe I want to have fun and shit on a character that I dislike
>>166389760
Sorry but I actually hate Toriel and people that like her keep proving to be trash over and over
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>>166389694Thanks.
>>166389663
Good threads?
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>>166389706
I like Toriel because she's cute and makes good pies. Also because I have a MILF fetish
I can shit on Asgore because he's done things worth shitting on.
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I think we have some images to go.
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>>166389802
hi sorielyou are the same now
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Q: Why exactly did the war with humans happen in the first place?
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>>166389936
And I can shit on her because she did things worth shitting on such as abandoning six kids fucking die instead of getting off her ass and helping them
I don't usaully because I don't like making people feel bad over fictional characters but I doubt you really care
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>>166389936
I like Toriel because I can relate to her moral dilemma between the children's safety and freedom.
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I remember when Flower is not a Good Life Coach wasn't yet finished and it was frequently talked about here. Is anyone following this comic of it? The art is absolutely fantastic.
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What if Toriel had succeeded in actually locking up the children in against their wishes like she tried to with Frisk
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>>166390119
So you would let six children go walk onto a busy highway instead of telling them no just because they really wanted to do it?
Because its the same thing
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>>166389862
Really good.Better than this one...
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>>166389948
>PapyTon
>Skeleton with Tentacle
Stop it
autismskeleton is not for sexuals
nihilismskeleton isnt either really
>Goat Mom XXX
autismskeleton gif for you
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>>166390208
That's easy enough.
>>166390191
You'd encounter a bunch of inbred people living in the ruins with no means of leaving.
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>>166390272
Or you know she can take of and live with them until they die at which point take their soul with their consent and do her plan that she was so proud of
but no that would have actually been something useful for someone else so god forbid
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>>166390243
There are many ways to appreciate the goat mom.
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>>166390143
I'm following it and the artist is indeed wonderful, they manage to give Papyrus a very expressive face without cheating his jaw.
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>>166390103
But Asgore is worse. Even you agreed he's done worse things than Toriel.
>>166390206
It's more like you let them walk out the front door and they got ran over by a car, but then you did it 5 more times because you're a fucking retarded
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>>166390143
Art is pretty great. I think the fic derailed like fuck the more it went on, but it was fun for a while.
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>>166390461
You don't need to point out the intentional problems in sorielfag's arguments.
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>>166390143
Fucking hell I adore that fic. Gonna read the shit outta this comic
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>>166390191
Then you'd have the makings of a BDSM doujin
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>>166390461
>It's more like you let them walk out the front door and they got ran over by a car, but then you did it 5 more times because you're a fucking retarded
Yeah
>Even you agreed he's done worse things than Toriel.
Yeah but hes still more likable and I can still shit on Toriel because I don't like her and shes a shit person
>>166390519
What problem? Me pointing out that 'X is worse so Y is good?' is retarded logic
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>>166390503
Makes me bit vary on whether to start reading it or not. On one hand I could enjoy it for a bit, on other hand it feels annoying to stop with something because it gets boring.
Write endings for your stories god damn.
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Can we try and have a comfy thread next time? Please?
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>>166390519
I think he's just sameing again.
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Man, good thing I wasn't here in the past few hours. Looks like I sure didn't miss much (or anything) meeting quality standards.Remember everyone, when a baiter baits and tries to start shit, don't waste your time!
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>>166390769
Blame the momfags who get off on shitting on people who just want to have a nice comfy thread
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>>166390272
>That's easy enough.
Yeah...
I think i'm gonna skip this one.
See you later.
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>>166390628
>Yeah but hes still more likable
Opinion
>and shes a shit person
But Asgore is more shit. Admit that and I can fucking go
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>>166390769
are we not men?
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Does anyone know the sauce of this artist?
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>>166390848
>Admit that and I can fucking go
Asgore is a worse person but I still like him more
That's as far as I will go. Good enough? Can I just go back to ignoring you guys and posting what I want to post?
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>>166390243
It's true, Papyrus is pure and I will protect his innocence!
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>>166390823
Bye. :/
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>>166390769
Only if it's comfy vore thread
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>>166390917
I can't find them, fucking Japan and their hidden blogs.
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>>166390037
I assume because humans didn't trust monsters. Humans and monsters are quite different, that's enough to breed hostility.
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>>166390962
>Asgore is a worse person but I still like him more
I'll take it.
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>>166390769
I have a twitter dump ready to go and everything
>>166390917
Give me like 15 mins. I saw that picture on twitter a while back so it should still be there
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>>166390823
Ah well. The next one could be better though.
>>166390037
Wasn't this explained in the waterfall?
Unless I'm completely misremembering, humans discovered that if a monster acquires a human soul, they can become immensely powerful. As a result humans started to fear that a monster(s) would attack someone and start to take over.
That fear ultimately culminated into launching an attack.
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>>166390687
It's not that it gets boring, it more like... there's a certain number of liberties a story can take, before it gets a little too hard to really take it seriously and FINAGLC goes way, way past that line. It eventually reaches the 'stupidly grimdark' point, where it becomes more annoying, than fun.
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>>166390037
it was explained in the game. it was caused by humans being afraid of monsters taking their souls.
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>>166390037
Asgore started going on and on about how monsters are the superior race and indoctrinating his subjects into his anti-human dogma and then acted all indignant when people tried calling him out on it until they told him to get off their property and he got violent
Luckily he bailed basically the second anyone raised a fist at him, all the way into the Underground
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>>166391421
I'm assuming you're talking aboutYou know what... FUCK YOU, PAPYRUS, and onwards?
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>>166391552
This is why momfags are shit
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>>166391638
>>166391638
>>166391638
Let's go.
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>>166391617
If Toriel hadn't been out grocery shopping the whole thing would have been avoided
It's basically her fault, really
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>>166391342
Thanks man!
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>>166391553
Yep.Papyrus after a while becoming almost stupidly indignant about improving his own situation, that whole plotline about getting Sans arrested, and the finale with casually warping into the void and worst of all letting Flowey ultimately be proven completely rightkind of killed it for me.
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>>166391138
>that's enough to breed
FTFY
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