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Cute witch edition

Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/.
The expansion, Rise of Bahamut released on Dec. 29th.
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database/Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/g8OD1

Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing
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All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor UPDATED WITH BAHAMUT:

Link:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U
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Updated card art package.
https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
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You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

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Post elf now
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>>166235232
that's some goddamn ugly piece of art
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Post elf
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>>166235225
And they don't have drain or healing, so again, your point is moot.
Also some really bad card draw, something people always fail to notice.
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Should I dust 2 animated Tia's to make meme decks? Also OP you have shit taste, picture is vile.
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>>166235356
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>>166235441
Avant exist you dumbcute.
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Kimura is saying that data transfer between DMM and Steam versions will be possible soon.
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>>166235532
>playing avant in the year 2017
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>>166235462
If you dust any animated tias I will cry.
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>>166235356
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>>166235441
Please leave that idiot's argument in the last thread. But if you insist...

Pic related. Remember that this is the smile of pure overstatted powercreep.
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>>166235532
Avant is way under curve and only pulls Officers, which will most of the time only be 1-4 pp.
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>>166235714
Not a single thing.
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Guys, tell me why this wont work, sword deck with every single storm card and Urds.
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18688

13 deaths to go /svg/
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>>166235232

SINNERS BE PURGED
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>>166235754

Also I can throw in some Jeno's and Leonidas to proc their last words effect with Urd.
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>>166235714
thanks for reminding me of watching the next ep
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>>166235707
My wife
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Need a concede

61047
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>>166235714
I played THREE ranked matches to get my dailies done. And opened TWO whole packs.
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>>166235441
>Also some really bad card draw
you mean stuff like maid leader that puts a commanders into your hand? or maybe mentor's teachings which both buffs you and draws a card
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>>166235863
Thanks swordbro!
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>>166235802
Lot of fun things today.
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Is Wardrobe waifu still worth running?
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>>166235754
Some of the sword storm cards suck if just thrown in without thought, Leonidas is a late game card and storm strat at all cost is a mid game at best plan before you run out of steam.

Aggro sword already runs basically all of the good storm cards anyway.
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I tried making a control blood deck and it sucks dick and loses to everything.

Post a list for me to copy, because my version isn't working.
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>>166235991

Yes.

Cuck all Daria shitters of their 2 drops and blade mages everyday with your control blood witchette stomp deck.
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>>166235801
Jeno's LW sucks, you can run him in the deck for double Rush, but I wouldn't bother with playing him for 6
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12135927

Bonus:
http://www.strawpoll.me/12143205
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>>166235991
>/svg/ always shitting on control blood as a meme deck
>cblood is getting played a ton and doing extremely well in the tourney right now

APOLOGIZE
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>>166235714

Helped with ceiling repair.
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>>166235991
why doesn't she wash her hair?
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>>166235957
Maid Leader only searches for specific cards and is understatted, Mentor's is a cantrip in the vein of Insight or Monastic Holy Water
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>>166235778
Keep it coming pls
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HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US
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>>166235991
Better than Righteous Devil honestly since you don't have to be in Vengeance for her to be useful. The only time he's ever used on curve is against aggro decks that run out of gas quickly like Aggro Vampire.
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>>166236193

/svg/ usually talks about ladder meta.

It's different from tourney meta because bad matchups can be swept away with other decks.
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>>166236193
There are just some idiots that drop tens of thousands of vials on the deck. THEN they find out it isn't free wins, takes thought and tweaking to respond to the meta as it changes. THEN they get really vocal about it.

Should tell you more about the intelligence of the average /svg/ poster.
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>>166236343
Control Blood does well against Daria and the ladder is full of Daria.
/svg/ used to make fun of Control Blood pre-RoB, when it was actually a meme.
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>>166235714
I did laundry, clothes and bedding.
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>finally roll 9
>don't like them
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Post your ranked experience /svg/
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>>166235991
I use her because smart opponents play around Righteous Devil, so she's usually the next best thing around those turns.
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>tfw some snowmen hit me face for 18
delete this deck
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>>166235714
Got out of bed.
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>>166236452

>Bloody Mary isn't optimal Cblood card anymore

m-maybe next expac will introduce combo-enabling cards for a bloody mary deck.

It still wins games, and it's fun. It's not something I'd take into ranked though.
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>>166236534
play havencraft
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>>166235657
Currently B2
Should I go all the way for Arisa?
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>>166236074
>I tried making a control blood deck and it sucks dick and loses to everything
yes, that's cblood
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>>166236534
T-those look good to me
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How do we make Storm Haven great again?
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Opened my 8th Otohime, still not animated
Oh well got my second animated dragonlewd charlotte from the same pack
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>>166236894

How's your roaching skills?
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>>166236894
Do it for her
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POST YOUR ROACH DICK RIGHT FUCKING NOW
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>>166237071
>>166236894
Is it time to post loyalty?
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>>166237071
>>166236894
kill yourself
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>>166237010
Lots of practice at this point, feeling good
>>166237071
Brother
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did anyone try this card in sun satan?
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>>166237010
I'm not intelligent enough for quick math
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>>166236894
>>166237071

cancer!
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>>166235356
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What's the point of Control Blood? Now that you don't even run Bloody Marys and Righteous Devil, the deck lost most of what made it unique. Dire Bond is bad in this meta and other control decks can remove it, which is a huge setback for you. Blood has no answer to Bahamut and does terribly against Ramp Dragon and Dshift, which are more or less the only other control decks you'll see.
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>>166237212
Would switching to rune be better?
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>>166237202
the turn timer is incredibly long, and it is simple addition

are you retarded m8?
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>>166236967
I got 4 winstreak with this in a3
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>BMing against auto-deck Shadow in Unranked as Elana Seraph
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>>166237202
It's ok, many elf players sit there and pause til damn near rope on turns 6 and 7 anyway.
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>>166236035

But this deck would give me an excuse to run Dragonlewd
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>>166237302
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Need a concede or match loss please
52688
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>>166237254
The point of it is to remove Daria's board with Revelation and to outlast aggrobat with Revelation/Diabolic Drain.

I agree with everything you said however.
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Daily reminder to bm dorothy shitter.
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>>166236967
A amulet that decreases the countdown of other amulets.
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>>166236193

What is this tourney and where can I watch it?
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>>166237318
>Storm Elanacraft
>Elana is missing
W-Why the name then?
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>>166237389
Thanks guy!
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>>166237254
It's basically a deck that preys on Daria and Aggro Blood and that's it
Also it's fun
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>>166237495

Not that guy anon but...look at the sleeves.
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>>166237463
i think it's that one on twitch and cblood just badly lost to csword there
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>>166237495
its from the wild days back in c3, where you can meme with elana, guardian suna and garuda and still gain rank
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>>166237423
Master Sage does this but has shit for stats at 3 cost and I really don't want my storm followers popping on my opponent's turn.
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>>166237161
Are you retarded?
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three games in a row where the daria player are spamming emotes when they put 5 creatures on the board on turn 4 and continue to emote every turn after

yeah you outskilled me, amazing
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>>166237625
Amulet won't die easily as a follower. Also make its effect activate at the beginning of your turn
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>>166235714
Unpacked an ancient elf and crafted 3 roaches so now I have a budget forest deck. I feel like an asshole whenever I take a long turn to calculate if I have lethal though.

I'm also having a hard time balancing out cards in my hand vs cards on the board since as sword I was mostly capped by board space.
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>>166237335

Or you can run Fangblade which not only has god-tier art instead of average anime ecchi, but it's also free removal and massive value.
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>>166236894
>>166237071
>>166237126
you are like little babies

watch this
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>>166237676
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>>166237240
I really hate Urd as a card. A 4 pp 3/3 shouldn't have that much utility. Either make it only target opponents or only target allies.
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>>166237768
it's harder to fap to fangblade though
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>>166237789
I will be that loyal one day
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>>166237790
Just Themis :)
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>>166237768

SLICE EM AAAND DICE EM
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>>166237768
He is one of best sword boys.
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>>166236074
The more "optimal" cblood decklists drop Mary and uses Bahamuts, Goblinmounts, and Cocytus.

they aren't fun though.

>>166235991
Using Righteous Devil and Wardrobe Raider are the standard these days.
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Good night, /svg/
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Give more leaders, I don't like any of the current ones
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>>166237789
h-hear my roar!
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>>166237676
>playing with emotes on
i don't think there's ever been a time where having emotes on positively benefited my experience
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>>166237768

You know I actually love "Mama's Boy" both as a card and a personality. He's probably my favorite male card in the game now.

So why do you have to besmirch his name by using him to hate on Dragonlewd?

Fangblade is a really cool guy and he would never talk shit about his dragonewt queen.

I want to run BOTH of them.
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>>166237789
>This loyal
>to DRAGON
H-Hear the dragon's roar.
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>>166238007

Sweet dreams Vampy
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>>166237961
>tfw you will never go out drinking with him and then make fun of him for getting chewed out by his mom for staying out too late
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>>166237789
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>>166238007

ONLY BLOODKIN DESERVE TO BE TUCKED IN BY VAMPY
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>>166237592
>>166237391

Haven can more reliably survive against Daria. Also neither of them are even that strong against Daria in the end. Whether or not Daria wins is exclusively based on what they drew. A strong draw from Daria will beat any deck no matter what kind it is.

Revelation doesn't do shit when the deck is full of burn and three Blade Mages. And unlike Haven, Control Blood's healing cards require enemy followers so smart players will always go ham early on and stick to cycle and burn spells later on.

Control Blood has awful cycle too. Dire Bond is a death sentence in this meta and Blood Pact is just going to kill you. The deck doesn't have meaningful win conditions either. It has always just been good at dealing with Aggro Blood.
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>>166238070
baka
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You know what? My anecdotal experience tells me that Dariashitters are the ones that BM rope you, rope you when losing, and DC when losing too.

Literally no other kind of player has BM'd me as much as Dariafags when they're about to lose. Not even Aggro blood

It's like they can't accept that their little OP netdeck lost to a shitty frankestein budget version of another class and just get mad. But jokes on them those reactions just make it more enjoyable.
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>>166238265
Fuck off
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>>166238109

There was one time where I was aggro shadow vs dirtrune and my salt was building up and I was thinking if there's any way to topdeck out of my ass to kill him next or the turn after.

Then he started bm emoting "YOU'RE A FIGHTER AND A HALF" It was pretty funny and it let me come to terms with my defeat in peace.
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Tell me /svg/, when was the last time you had fun playing this game?
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>>166238269
>Literally no other kind of player has BM'd me as much as Dariafags when they're about to lose.
Did you never play against Elanafags?
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You have TEN SECONDS to convince me why I shouldn't do this every time this joke of a daily pops.
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>>166237867

What a fag
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>>166238269
Daria is the majority of the ladder, of course they are the majority of people who BM and DC on you.
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>>166238269
bad quality post
>>166238265
good quality post
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>>166238374

Go for it.

I did it today.
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17875

Kill me
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>>166238269
>>166238373
all the elana bandwagoners back in DE moved to daria
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>>166238368
Today while playing CF Snow
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>>166238374
I always kick out a 20g quest, but then sometimes I get the dragoncraft one.
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>>166238368
Today. Tons of great matchups for Elana Seraph. I hit AA1 on a 7 winstreak.
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>>166238373

My assumption is that they're one and the same.

Bandwagoners.
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Can I get a concede 81717
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>Drop a Night's Attendant on turn 3
>Opponent ignores him
>Evolve it and put +2 attack on it from Cerb
>Still ignores it
Jesus Christ dude just fucking kill it
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>>166237789
One day I'll make Arisa this happy, just you watch
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>>166238510
Wait can replacing quests get you a higher tiered reward?
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>>166237884
>http://usamin.love/card/fangblade_slayer/e_summon.wav

Fantastic
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>>166238665
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>>166238742
Yeah
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>>166238249
Smiling Rowen is a miracle
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>>166238665
Done. Thanks.
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>>166238790
We're a good community, don't you think so?
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>>166238851

Because it's rare to see him win, right?
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>>166238701
>>Drop a Night's Attendant on turn 3
>>Opponent ignores him
Even absolute newbie's don't hit turn 3 attendents.
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>>166238810
I guess I'm a retard then. I assumed they wouldn't change in value so I just didn't bother replacing them.
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>>166238937
This bullying must stop
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>>166238903
When bbs are sleep everyone become a cutanon
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Should sub-AA1 players be allowed to post in this general?
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What do you guys think if they added daily missions where you need to win while playing a certain card (You need to have used the card in the game, not just have it in your deck)? The reward becomes bigger, the shittier the card is

For example,

Win 3 games with Bellringer Angel - 60g
Win a game with Bellringer Angel doing lethal damage - 100g
Win a game with Dark Dragoon Forte - 20g

Of course, it won't give you a mission for a card you don't have.

I personally think it's a pretty entertaining idea
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>>166238937

DELET
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>>166238903
There are some really nice people here but a few meanies that really dampen the mood.
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>>166237884
>>166238787
>dubcuck

Kys.
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>>166239039
t. AA1 shitter
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>>166239042
>Win a game with Bellringer Angel doing lethal damage - 100g
I rather try my luck winning a game with dragoncraft thanks
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>>166239042

>Bellringer Angel doing lethal damage

I'll just have to do what I saw in the SV commercial and find a rowen.

ez pz.
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>>166239042
>Win a game with Bellringer Angel doing lethal damage - 100g
no thanks, that sounds more like an achievement than a daily quest.
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>>166239104
>Getting bothered by cunts on 4chan
don't let them get to you, newfag. :^)
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Anyone have the Vampire Queen and Vampy getting Angelic Snipe'd comic? Please and Thank you.
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WHAT HAPPENED TO LOSARIA!!!!!!
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>>166239125

Hi, I'm the first guy. I play with JPN audio and uncensored Isabelle. But I'm also not an easily triggered idiot.

Grow up.
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>Tfw I have been going back and forth between A1 and A0 for the last 4 hours
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>>166239028
stop posting
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>>166239042
Those would be fine achievements. They would be horrible dailies.
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>>166239042
Post dangerous dongs
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>>166239241
Losaria? More like LOSER-ia
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>>166239264
I spent two days bouncing back and forth there.

I'm only a few points off AA1, so I'm expecting the pain to begin again.
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>>166239042
>Beat Rowen with Bellringer Angel
>1000g
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how the fuck am I meant to read the cheat sheet in the OP, what's the difference between score and rank

it looks like they're meant to correlate but then you have shit like zombie buccaneer having 35 score rank B

I'm so confused
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>>166239245
>vampy shitter
>uncensored isabelle
KYS
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>>166239264
I've been sitting in A0 tryng out different memes for a week now. Relax dude!
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So if Guilds become a thing /svg/ guild is happening right?
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>>166239241
>no mature elf gf
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>>166239389
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>>166239419
That's basically what discord is
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>>166238368
Today after getting through 7 rune matchups in a row.
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I'm in love with Conjuring Force Rune
It's cheap, memey and it gets wins.
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>>166239326
DELET THIS
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>>166239320
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>>166239296
>>166239345

>get the flair dong dinger
>and bellringer emblem
>along with bellringer sleeves, I NEED THOSE SLEEVES
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>>166239419
Guilds would make the private match dailies near instant.
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>>166239419

I hope not, guilds and such breed cancer.
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>Play nothing for the first two turns as aggro blood
>Think I'm fucked and consider conceding when shadow drops two khawy's
>Still manage to win in the late game as aggro bats

Holy shit
I'm just going to put down the game for now because it can only go downhill from here
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>>166239453
Vampedo shitter.
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>rune plays a lot of snowmen
>wait the fucking minute I've seen this before
>kill them all asap
>concedes right after
I'm not getting memed this time
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>>166239567
wait, which meme is that, it's ringing a bell but I can't remember
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>>166239241
More story when? I feel they wouldn't release her as a leader until the story finishes and she is saved.
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>>166239543
Things like that are why I never concede
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>>166239320

That's a big dong.
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>>166239339
Good luck anon.

>>166239404
Thanks, I guess I'll just take a break for a couple of hours then
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>>166239474
Is there a substitute for Rimewind if I don't have it?
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>>166239553
Your crying is pathetic.
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>>166239641
Conjuring Force Snowman
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>>166239104
The only people that ruin the mood is discord faggots. It's like the gays that keep asking people "What's wrong if I spread my HIV?"
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>>166239567
>get all my snowmen killed
>have a rimewind ready to rim along with a prepped summon snow
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17875

Kill me
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>>166239534

this thread is already cancer anyways
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>>166239681
KYS unga shitter
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>>166239731
delusional
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>>166239663
>saved
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>>166239731
I never ever see discord shitposting or eceleb shitposting.

I do see constant WAAAAH MOMMY THEY SAID A WORD I DONT LIKE crying and whining. Like holy shit, you're worse than the people that you complain about.
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>>166239543
I've won matches because people got cocky when I was clearly bricked. I just had a Roach deck drop Roach early, leave it on the board and leave me at 7. Allowed me to drop Revelation and Veight, then 2 Queens in the next two turns to get a conede.
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>>166239681
>>166239553
come on guys, there is Steam for ERP
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trying to reroll, whats the best lightweight android emulator?
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>>166239768

there could be fartposting

this is the only general that hasn't had to truly put up with that afaik
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>>166239419
There will be 2 guilds one small with cutanons posting and onee with butthurt meanies that only complain about card games.

After some time the Meanie guild will be so toxic and will destroyed by the own menbers then the cutanons guild will be more important and everyone will complain because of envy.

And the shit discord guild that everyone will ignore because they purpose is destroy this threas.
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>>166239823
>>166239832

Found some discord fags
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>>166239932
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>>166239768
pantsu
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>>166239824
She WILL be!
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>>166239671
Well now, the game is just messing with me, my dailies just reset and what did I get?

>Win 6 ranked matches
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>>166239779

> Leukemia calling the Sarcoma cancer
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>>166239832
You don't see it because it only happens when they (by which I mean literally 1 of two faggots) tries to force it into the OP on occasion. But enough about that shit.
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>>166240049
>implying I play rune at all
Spotted the ungabats shitter.
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>>166240046
I hope they add dailies like

"Win 6 ranked matches as Dragoncraft"
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>>166239679
Probably not, it's too good in this deck because you can get 8 damage on the table for 5.
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So what's the best forest roach OTK deck right now? The one on gameai doesn't seem too amazing
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>>166240103
>still going
Jesus anon, your sperging is getting autistic. You've had at least two anons laughing at you now, possibly even 3.
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>>166240160
I don't want to spend vials crafting gold trash ;_;
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What's she thinking about, /svg/?
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>>166240217
thingken of roach
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>>166239663
I WANT MY ONEE-SAMA BACK
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Daily reminder to always DC and rope every ungabats shitter.
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>>166240216
If you don't have the dust for meme decks, then stay away. This deck is for real niggas only.
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>>166240129

"Win 3 matches against Havencraft as Shadowcraft"
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>>166240217
Roach cock
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>>166240064
People are shitposting about discord right now despite none of the "discord faggots" sneaking a link into the OP

The idiots who are so convinced that discord is out to ruin their thread are the real problem because they can never shut up about it and always turn it into a huge deal
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>>166240217
pondering if she'll get lucky with her pixie mischief and may
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>>166240197
Implying that's not (You).
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>>166240217

Praying so May hits the Bat
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>>166240191
Running 2 or 3 tia is the new thing for roach
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>>166240217
>drop may
>hit the bat
>otk your ass with roach
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>>166240275
what the fuck is this image?
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>>166240342
She tried May twice and failed, then dumped her hand onto the field in anger.
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>>166237789
>Tales from A0
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>>166240282
thanks for giving me more time to finish fapping I guess?
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>>166240330
>implying
Anon, one person shitposted about it, you have that, but all other mentions aren't. That's not "people". That's one poor autist.
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Whats the hottest meme deck right now that isn't newt/altered fate dragon?
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I think I'm gonna play swordcraft
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17875

pls keep killing me
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>>166240342
Just need to have faith in may, no need to even trade first
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what the fuck counters elana again
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>>166240535
>What's the hottest meme deck that isn't the hottest meme deck?
Ambush sword or something I don't know.
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I hang out in Discord and I can confirm there are at least 3 people who are dedicated to doing nothing but shitposting in this thread and/or putting Discord in the OP just to stir things up.
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>>166240306
>It's actually impossible
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>>166240535
Could try that conjuring force rune I saw earlier in the thread, mite be gud.

>>166240651
Fuck off, don't care.
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>>166240572
Shadow
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>>166240556
>Shadowverse doesn't have stories to tell your friends
Who made up this lie
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>>166240439
only boobs and hips matter you dummy
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>>166240535
Rose Queen forest
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>>166240358
New? Tias have usually been in there until a few lists went all out combo. The tias have always been solid turn 5/6 drops if you don't draw a Feena.
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>>166240358

It was always the smart thing to do but shitty netdeckers on this general memed people into believing Tia was bad for the deck and even getting people to play garbage like Cynthia.

Not running Tia was ALWAYS a mistake.
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>>166240439
I'd make a mother out of her.
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>haven plays seraph on a full board when aria is about to pop meaning it would die by itself
>bloodfag not only doesn't odin it he also kills a follower opening space for seraph
what kind of tournament is this
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>>166240217
roach stuff i guess
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>>166240987

A Vindi tournament
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>>166240651
Discord is a coool place create a and come have fun with us
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Is last words shadow a meme
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>>166240572
Rune and elves
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>>166240727
May brings me luck, her face damage is the most important!
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>>166240827
i would prefer a fairy beast desu
tia is mostly useless unless you played two cards before dropping her and it's either you waste 0pp cards or it's turn 7
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>>166240987
It's a Reddit endorsed tournament, what did you expect?
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> tfw no good streamers online
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>>166241184
New-ish player here. Is Roach deck played by trying to build up the combo in your hand and stalling until then?
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17875

Kill me
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>>166241339

>TFW want to stream but never done it before and afraid of getting bullied for my rank and play.
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>>166241339
What happened to envybae? I missed her.
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>>166241339
>implying english-speaking streamer even worth watching
just wait 11 hours for cat satan's stream
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>>166241385

The key is to waste all your combo pieces fighting for board then concede on turn 7 when you miss lethal.
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>play ramp dragon
>win 2 lose 4
>play control sword
>win 3 lose 3
>play control blood
>win 2 lose 4
>play nephthys shadow
>win 2 lose 3
>play Daria rune
>lmao 5 win streak

Is there any reason to play anything but daria rune until they fix the spellboost system?
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>>166241339

Would you watch a B1 newbie that has a tendency to mutter to himself when playing videogames?

I think not
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>>166241416
Shadowverse is the first TCG I've played in my life and I got to AA in a little over a month. It's very easy to rank up.
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>>166240572
Aggro Royal, Seraph, and DS.
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>>166241505

I'll watch anyone at this point as long as it's Take Two and not shitty ladder
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please tell me the japanese are telling cygames to nerf OTK roach and daria, i'm getting tired of playing this game
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whats the best daria deck
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>>166240572
Bahamut

plain and simple
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>>166241385
You try to lower their health in the beginning while getting the pieces then go 1 big finisher with roach math
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>>166240463
source pls
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>>166241507

It's not a TCG...
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>>166241561
japanese players prefer adapt to the meta instead of being whiny faggots like you
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>>166241385
You have others ways to win, and against aggro you are more worried about staying alive because you can't make it to your "safe"ish turn 7.

combo is just your finisher, your combo can just be one roach, bounce back with pixie mischief, ancient elf, nature's guardian then roach again. I've won without even pulling a roach or goblin. But for combo you want to try to lower their health as much as possible, but you do kind of need a bit of board control or you are going to die.
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>>166241423
he said good streamers
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>>166241507

You don't have to have played CCG before to be good at CCG.
>>
ResidentSleeper
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>>166241696
come on dude
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>>166241672
there is no adaptation besides playing those decks

and the counter to those decks are playing a control where you can just go ahead and brick your hand anyway

who exactly likes playing this game with this meta? give me your aggro bats, give me your d.shit, and least those games might be fun
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We did it my /svg/ friends. Just dinged 100 and got to AA0 under 500 wins, my first goal. Time to start the final climb.
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>>166241423
he said "streamers" not trannies
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>>166241672
They haven't, they're just bringing Daria to every tournament as well.
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@166241810
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>>166241810
Good luck! That's the half way point right there. Hope you can join me in some memeing soon!
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>>166241947

beat me to it
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>last 4 games have given me literally no 1's or 2's in my hand for first 3 turns

SEND HELP
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>>166241810
Good job!
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>>166241810

Have you climbed nonstop, or have you stopped at some point to meme?

I'm sick of laddering right now. I play ranked because people are serious bussiness there, but I just practice new shit or meme it up right now.

How has your run been?
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Why are hags allowed to have best everything?
This faggot class is disgusting.
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>>166241781
they're fucking terrible though

people only tolerate them because le gril streamer
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>aggrobats slowly dropping out of meta
>Cblood is complete garbage
good
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>Win 3 blood dailies
>Hmm, want to get these done quick, fire up aggro blood
>Lose, lose, lose
>Try Control blood instead
>Win, win win
wtf I hate unga now.
>>
Is this game gonna kill 2hu?
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>>166242145
oh I thought you knew that streamer, they autistically say come on dude over and over
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>>166239474
>Rune spamming snowmen
>Oh shit it's conjuring force
>trade every snowman
>jokes on you it's PtP

Fuck how can you tell the difference?
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>>166242153

>Vengeance Blood will never be a thing
>All those cards with cool effects will be unuseable forever, meme tier at most.

Cygames needs to push that shit hard. Such a cool mechanic and the class it's relegated to be a bat dispenser. Aggro and blood, two sides of the same coin
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>>166242145
>>166242232
i hope you are kidding, you can't be this new
"le gril"
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>>166242173
why do they draw vampy with glasses?
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Such thought, wow.
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>>166242321
Glasses make every girl cuter.
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guys what if

we made an aggro deck

and removed its sole weakness
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>>166241810
Good luck, ignore the haters in /svg/ who think you need to climb with JO dragon or some shit to be respected.
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>>166242286
They'll probably push even more one turn kill cards so vengeance will never become a thing
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>>166242319
yeah I know about that, I didn't feel the need to add quotes around "gril" though
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>>166242368
That's cuh-razy anon. Perish such thoughts.
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Nobody move or else I pull the trigger
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>>166242153
>Cblood is completel garbage
Wew never saw that one coming!

Bloody Mary will save control blood!

RoB will slow down the meta and control blood will become viable!

Oh wait, they didn't actually release a single usable vengeance card since the game was released. What a fucking joke. Meanwhile, they won't stop churning out broken spellboost trash, even though spellboost was already an infinitely better mechanic.
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>>166242107
>>166241961
Thank you! I've heard AA is a bitch but it's too late to stop now. I can almost taste masters.
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>>166242363
doesn't really work for envybae :^)
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>>166242286
Vengeance will never be a thing unless blood gets a timeless witch but really fucking broken. There's way too many stuff that can deal 10 damage in one turn.
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How did we go from this...
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>>166242474

do it punk, you don't have the guts
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>>166242153
Source?
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>>166242363
Glasses are for fucking nerds.
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>>166242286
Just make an amulet that costs half if Vengeance is Active, and every follower gets +0/2 and ward
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I just got meme'd in Masters by a guy who used Soul Dealer effectively. He deserved that win.
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>>166242552
...to this?
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>>166242681
Budget
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guys I did it, I evolved her in a match
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Who is the ultimate cancer and why is it Luna?
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>>166242286
All it needs is more PP reduction cards when in vengeance. Diabolic Drain and Revelation is the right direction, but there needs to be more cards like that. Specifically we need a card with drain and rush and a ward that gets PP reduction.

There also needs to be more cards that interact with you losing health, like Mary. An amulet with a 20 countdown that goes down for every point of damage you take (for example) would be cool. There could also be something insane like a spell that heals you for every point of self damage you've done, but that might be pushing it.
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>>166242782
Yeah totally, screw that stupid loli, she's the most cancerous girl in this game!
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>>166242769

how do you get animated flame and glass?
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how Mid blood deck would look like?
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>>166242893
Animated Flame at B3, animated Glass at A3.
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>>166242915
aggro but with less face spells and more late game cards like matriarch
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>>166241063
Third season when?
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>>166242971

welp guess not then
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>>166242129
I've been climbing on and off. I had a brief stint with Daria in A1-A2 but playing the deck was just no fun and made me angry. I play a lot of different Tier 2 or 3 decks like Nephthys shadow and Wolf Bolt forest. I got serious about getting AA and blasted through A3 start to finish playing a seraph haven list I've been tinkering with. You have to find a deck you enjoy playing for hours on end not just what has the highest winrate
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>>166242915
Like total garbage.
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>>166242769
how long did she live afterwards
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>>166242984
nah, mid blood needs to kill by t9-t10 (t13 at latest) or you might as well play control
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>>166242915
Most mid/tempo decks that aren't Daria are essentially dead right now. They get owned by the decks that are tailored against Daria and get owned by Daria, both of which make up most the ladder.
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>>166242915

It'd be a deck with the low curve consisting of cards whose value doesn't suck, read as: no blood wolf, with more low curve than Cblood and throwing in some drawing cards (not too much, because then you'll just bone your tempo) some Cblood cards.

Your ultimate goal, make people think you don't have Cblood cards by playing an aggro game convincingly and then drop some Vengence card on them.
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>>166243029
>You have to find a deck you enjoy playing for hours on end not just what has the highest winrate
but isn't it the same thing?
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>>166243176
omg why don't you jsut adapt retard???
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Why the fuck is CSword so fun, holy shit. Even with a shitty one you get to annoy the fuck out of people with wards, removal and fucking Dragonfang.
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Daria have a weakness and its this fat old commander right here
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Honestly is there any reason to make nep shadow over aggro shadow?
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>>166242391
Thanks! It means a lot. I try to play whatever I'm at home with despite any shit talking. Good luck with achieving whatever goal you've set in sv
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>>166243257
It's fun until the novelty wears off.
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>>166243257
It's a fun deck.
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>>166241416
What's your rank?
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>>166243246
You had two chances to drop banner. He bricked, lad.
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>>166243257

Sexual reasons.
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>>166243257
you get to murder any control not running 3x odins pretty convincingly
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>>166243356

Low Masters
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>>166243257
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I miss my midsword deck so much. Please just kill tempo rune already.
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>win one game with Shadowcraft/Bloodcraft
just kill me now desu
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>>166242474
I did it twice
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>>166243515
literally two easiest decks to win, aggro shadow/aggro blood
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Someone post erthrite ptp
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>people actually get "ranked anxiety" in a game that's 75% RNG
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>>166243426
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Elves against rape
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>>166243394
Unless it's d-shift or Seraph
Then you just insta-lose
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Should I buy the sword or blood deck? Have shadow and forest. Dragon and haven seem shit.
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>>166243215
I mean if you get enjoyment out of winning no matter what then I suppose. Whenever I've played aggro whatever or Daria I was angry even when I won because they just weren't fun to me. So I'd play less and therefore get less ranks. I get real enjoyment out of playing seraph despite win or loss, there's actual excitement so I keep playing
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explain to the world how khawy is fair
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>>166243680
7 pp ;^)
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>>166243631
Safest cutie
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>>166243631
post dick
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>>166243680
A deck with a <50% win rate runs it
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>>166243571
I just did it 3x
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>>166243680

Shadow was the worst class in the game
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>>166243605

I get anxious in everything that's 1x1, I can't bear the thought of seeing myself playing a fighting game, by the time I reach masters it will fade away
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>>166243680
it's a meta tempo aggro blood vengeance loss and you should just shutup you fucking retard you don't know anything!!!!

-t. shadow player

no idea why this card heals for 4
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>>166243834
It still is.
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>>166243056
attack, extra turn, attack, win
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>>166243862
it can heal for 15 :3
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>>166243605
>people get anxiety over a game
Seriously?
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>>166243834
>>166243869
>what is dragon
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>>166243795

I wish dragon was strong enough to give me a reason to ladder with my Fortes
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>>166243982
If it's esports it's normal.
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>>166243257
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>>166242842
>piercing rune stays at 1 all the time
>diabolic drain goes back to 5 when you leave vengeance

Thanks Cygames.
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>>166243426
You should do it, more english masters streamers is good even if you are dumpster, still better than watching some AA shitter
In general if someone wants to watch a stream of X deck at Y time there's often slim-to-no pickings, would be nice if SV had a larger streamer community
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>>166243625

pls no bully
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>>166243959
post deck pls btw
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>>166244008
This game isn't though
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Lose to me, please
75119
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Does ice blade Warfiend draw a card when it kills khawy?
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>>166244086
it's really not that good and its a wip... i need more merlins..

y6pj
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>>166244176
Thanks, friend
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>>166244280
ty
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Did anyone received the free packs from survey yet?
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>>166241416
Just do it. If you have a good sense of humor about your misplays most people won't care anyway. You'll be very critical of yourself but it will actually help improve your decision-making skills in game.

We need more english streamers for the game anyway and you can give people some ideas about how to play certain decks.
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>>166244347
They said we'd get them within 30 days, so I'm not expecting them for another week at least.
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>>166244347
wat survey
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Finally playing haven and now I'm getting all these anti seraph control and dirt niggers.
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>>166244491

>I don't remember whether I made sure it was the correct account number.
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>>166241479

You don't hate yourself.
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>>166244021
>>166244354

I thought people frowned on streaming and advertising streaming here.
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>>166244593
Thanks for the packs! ;)
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This might be controversial but I actually love playing Daria. Everytime she says "WITH A BANG AND A BOOM" it gets my dick hard.
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Am I a shitter for taking my time to rank up and not rushing to freedom rank like other people?

I also like playing meme decks in unranked because I only want to play with my best decks in ranked. Still working on my CSword atm.
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>>166244695
kys dubcuck
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Help me sudoku /svg/

26273
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>>166244664

I think it's cocksucking streamer dick that's frowned on.

Let people gravitate towards what they want.
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How can I improve this? Getting rekt by Levi.
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>>166244554
>anti seraph control and dirt niggers.
Is why I switched to sun Satan desu
It's a great feeling when you Astaroth's a controlcuck to 1, they ward up and heal for 5 like a retard by using sexy or neet or whatever, and then they die to damnation like a bitch
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>>166244695
>dubcuck

Kys.
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Where are the darias? AA1 close to AA2.. rank is just all about matchup at this point, am cblood.
Also half of the runes i fought were dshit.
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>>166244723
WITH A BANG AND BOOM
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>>166244776
Preemptively evolve to prevent Levi from clearing
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>>166244776
Everyone gets rekt by Levi. There's nothing you can really do. Maybe take out something so you have 3 Awilda's instead.
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>>166244709
You'll run into brick missions rank on the way to freedom rank.
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Is this what it feels like, to hit the lottery?
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>make a haphazard meme deck with many cards nobody uses
>have zero expectations
>it actually manages a positive win rate
I don't understand. Why is this working? Am I just confusing my enemies to death?

It just beat an AA2 Daria deck, even. Has taken down aggro bats, pure elana, seraph, ramp dragon, roach, and probably more that I'm forgetting.
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Finally, master. Time to stop playing ranked until next month or so.
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How did they get the English dub Silent Rider's voice to be so low
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>>166243737
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>>166243680
It's a broken card in a mediocre gimmicky deck. He'd ruin the game if he was neutral.
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>>166244945
More like time to meme to take a load off. Congratulations!
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>>166244984
Thanks
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>>166244945
Another brandead aggro scum is master rank now. Great.
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>winning the game against dshift on t5
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>>166244945
Congratulations!
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Post the best shadow craft aggro deck right now. I'm gonna build it and get to masters from aa
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>>166244664
It's literally against the rules to advertise streams, which some autist will inevitably point out whenever someone tries to do so
From an ethical perspective I don't think it's bad for the thread though
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>>166245102

Aggro Shadow is the aggro deck that requires the most skill. Luna is very smart!
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Anyone else kind of disappointed by legendaries in shadowverse? I mean it's still great to get them, but the fact that you usually want at least two of a legendary (sometimes even three) to use them is a bit disheartening
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>>166244723
>>166244826
I actually installed the japanese/uncensor then uninstalled it because I missed the dub. Especially "I've fehled you muh yarl"
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I want this ride to end
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>>166245102

>aggro shadow is braindead

(You)
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>>166244776
>2 alwida
Always, ALWAYS, run 3. For any sword deck.
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>>166242243

This is why all control decks run Bahamut now.
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>>166245217
But you're barely getting started.
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>>166245124
>600x725
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There was once a shattered statue sleeping in a lost capital. But only the birds saw it, as no man ever entered that forbidden land.

The statue depicted a legendary angel who once fought to protect humanity. There were those who offered their prayers to this angel, and kept her in their hearts.

Over the course of many years, the prayers of the innocent gradually weakened the hold of an ancient curse on the angel, slowly restoring her to glory.

The nameless seraph will be resurrected by the pure hearts and innocent prayers of humanity. She will be a radiant light to guide this world.
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can I derank from masters
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>>166244018
That's a good point. I think it's fucking stupid how easy it is to play around Vengeance. That's why Blood needs more cards based around the amount of damage you've taken in the game.
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>>166245197

It's more of a YES 3.5k vials saved!

Animated cards is what really makes a pack special for me.
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>>166245345
Glory be!

Animated where
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>>166245356
just reroll bro
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>>166245345
Glory be, praise her.
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>>166245345
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>>166245193
>>166245238
Using Phantom Howl, Mimi and Coco for epic 11 damage in turn 6 is so fucking hard.
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>>166245345
Fuck off elena is hitler
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>>166245485
I wish you guys would stop posting this
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>>166245331
Give me a bigger picture then.
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>>166245543

Okay, except that gets stopped by wards, whiffing the required damage count or you simply don't have the cards.

It's strong, but it's not like it's a faster roach combo.
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>>166245485
This makes me cri evry tim
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>aggro shadow is hard

Is this some kind of epic new meme?
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>>166244776
>swift infiltrator
>no floral
>mentors teaching
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>>166245730
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>>166245145

Many swear by this list, but it never works out right for me.
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>>166245738
it is not really a combo though because it doesn't do more damage than its parts, you can play all those cards in a few other ways not losing their effect
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>>166245797
>He doesn't like swift infiltrator
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32740
Concede or let me hit your face.
Stay in the room after the match if you need a win too.

>>166245472
I really wish there was a way to see animated tokens in the collection. Seraph Lapis' animation is so good but it looks so tiny in-game.
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>>166245838
T-Thanks!
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>>166245543

You sound like it is pretty easy to draw into two of them in every matches.

Why don't you try the deck before you stop judge it.

>muh two intelligent to play aggro

Fuck off.
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>>166245892
>Tales from D rank
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Would Jeanne D'Arc be good if she had rush?


She'd be like a jack of all trades kind of follower instead of the trash she is right now
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>>166245849
because you are supposed to tinker it yourself removing the cards that you think don't really work for you
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>>166245849
I have about 3 aggro shadow decks that I cycle between if one isn't working for me at the moment.
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>>166245973
Keep netdecking, lad.
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>>166246001
She should have storm.
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>>166246001
She'd be better if she was 7 cost. Sarissa already has rush for clearing. It would put her on par with Matriarch too.
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jesus christ sektor

go away
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>>166245892
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>>166246001
she needs to cost 7 or 6
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A jap streamer is doing 24 win streak with OTK forest.
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>>166245884

well, that's true.

The deck is starting to just have nothing but strong cards on their own that go well with other strong cards for something special, and I like it.

>Skeleton Fighter+Reaper
>Lyrial+Conjurer (optional soul conversion on ghost)
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>>166245892

Niche meme
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>ate 3 piercing, 3 crimson and blade wizard
>still survive because shitter can't into khawy-trading

Not so diarrhea now, eh?
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>>166245884
>>166246295

>fighter

ack, meant knight.
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>>166246453
>i won because of my busted card lmao look at that shitter
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>>166246453
>win a favorable matchup
>mompost on /svg/

sasuga
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>>166245958
Your games are almost always over by turn 10 one way or another, you don't have to make tough decisions on turn 15 that come back to bite you in the ass on 30.

You don't have to pass turns and play chicken only to have to triage your cards so you don't mill. You just go fucking face and move onto the next game if someone has heals and taunts.

If that's your thing then more power to you but realize that a bot can play your deck and nothing would change, the actual thought required is fucking nothing and you can't even play mind games with your opponent and bait them into doing bad plays so you can capitalize and win the war of attrition.
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Good job, Dshift.
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>>166246274
on twitch?
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>elanaseraph in a nutshell
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>>166246595
>>win a favorable matchup
what the fuck did he mean by this
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>plays 2 dragonnewts
>alter fates into another alter fate
>get killed at 20 hp even thou I was winning the entire time
This is why I hate playing unranked. This is the tye of stupid bullshit I face on a daily basis.
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>>166246680
>win a favorable matchup
>mompost on /svg/
sasuga
>>
>play Daria
>face 3 swordbabs in a row

Easy 3 wins.
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>>166246274
Oh he only runs 1 white wolf for silver bolt? I might try this out, I couldn't craft like 2
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>>166246758
aggro sword is the noobtrap of the week
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>>166246752
dshift wins against earth rite dumbass.
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>>166246758
Don't you mean to say Daria has no bad match ups
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>>166246615

Alright, einstein. Say it's turn 2 and you have Conjurer, Lyrial and Mummy in hand against Rune going second. Why don't you tell the class which one you will be playing?

While you're at it, make the script of the bot so you can play the right 2-drop at the right time, smartass.
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>>166246952
CBlood is a bad match-up for daria.
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>>166246706
https://www.openrec.tv/live/9yE0sPb9FU4

26 and ongoing.
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>>166246615
none of these things are more difficult than aggro math
playing card-for-card interaction to maximize card advantage is literally the first thing any idiot playing magic tries intuitively to do, it's not brainless but it doesn't exactly require a refined intellect
the fact that games are over more quickly means that running the probabilities on what you could possibly topdeck and how much damage those different cases push is much more important than when playing control, you don't get to sit around for 20 turns waiting to see where the shuffle distributed your key cards as if we're playing fucking candyland
yes, a bot could play this deck, if it was exhaustively programmed with the correct math to make the correct judgments in all situations. Writing up those equations would involve more skill and game understanding than 90% of controlcucks ever display
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>>166247036
Only for retarded Daria players. It's easy to keep him at 13 health and just kill him at turn 5-6 with your burn cards and 0 cost followers.
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Is it worth it to craft 3 Sahaquiel? I'd like to mess around with the ramp/saha/bahamut dragon deck, and shes the only thing I'm missing.
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>>166246994
Did rune play a 2 drop or what? Can't even set up a scenario right, get with it man.
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>>166246749
>even though you were winning

You weren't though. You had no storm card in hand and the opponent had 2 evolves.
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does elf girl lisa simpson prevent themis
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>>166247247

A single golem then, which is followed by a turn 1 Insight.

It could be a DShift, which you need a mummy later on to push more damage, or it could be the more popular Daria variant, which means you need those two damage from conjurer+lyrial pair.

Aggro Shadow is braindead my ass, son.
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>>166247036
>tech in petrify for seraphshitters
>it does wonders against cblood's dire bond
i love it so much
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>>166246994
can someone explain why the answer isn't trivially mummy?
it's such an inefficient shadow hog
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>>166247380
No. Only damage from spells.
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>>166247380
No, Liza does not affect any destroy/banish types of cards only damage.
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What decks do you guys think are underrated?
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What are the fun meme decks to play now that I can't rank down any farther?
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>Daria Rune floods with Levi, Conjure Golem, and 2 Flame Destroyers
>If either Destroyer stays up, I'm fucked
>Have to hail Mary with Tribunal + Dogma + Sister Initiate
>It hits both Flame Destroyers
I would feel bad if I didn't heal for over 20 and still almost lose to burn.
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>>166247517
OTK Dragonewt.
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>>166247380
Themis does not deal damage. Except to your rectum, I suppose. Liza can't do shit.
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>>166247446

See. >>166247384

Coupled with puppets, that's 8 damage to the dome on turn 6 when Howl is not available.
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>dragon is running grim reaper now
excuse me what
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11367

Murder me
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>>166247125
as soon as I turn it on he loses to dragon
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>>166247125
your streamer just lost to a ramp dragon lol
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>>166247125
>open stream
>urd on a genesis dragon
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>>166247495
DS rune just because everyone wants to play Daria rune.

Especially in my babby rank where everyone is running aggro-ish variants of playable classes, its very easy to tech DS runes to counter aggro.
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>>166247495
Aggro sword
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>turn 1 passes
>turn 2 pact
>turn 3 dire bonds
>turn 4 concedes because no devil or revelation
My Control Blood experience
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>>166247495
Going just by /svg/ shitposting, control blood.
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>>166247815
You don't know true pain.
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>>166247714

You're not wrong that it's underrated in this meta.

However the word Aggro strikes fear into the heart of a Dshift player.
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>>166247621
...ok?
if you can't send coco to the dome without needing lesser mummy, i feel like you are in a bizarrely bad spot, and if you need/want to send mimi to the dome on T6 then you're in a very good spot
just play your best cards, i don't see what's so brain-wracking about this situation
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>>166247495
lamp dragon
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>>166247932
Fuck off faggot, CBlood has been like this from day one. Back when you were too busy being tier 1 with your with Forte+Urd combo and turn 6 Gensis.
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>>166247232
You do realize CBlood plays lots of other removal and stuff to regain life, right?
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>>166247517
ptp blood
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VUa99-tJqs

bang this shit as you unga bunga aggro blood
make your way to the top bby
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>>166247981

Lesser Mummy is also useful for maintaining board control by crashing into an evo'd unit while your other guys evo and go face.

Since your evo turns are crucial (Like with every deck that doesn't hoard evo points) you have to think ahead to what the board state will end up looking like given the cards in your hand and what you can do the influence the field.
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>Animated Satan
Which decks even use him?
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>>166247981

Clearly you haven't played the deck because that's a pretty common scenario. You're not going to be banking on your opponent to not do anything on their turn.

What 2-drop you play can determine on whether you will be fucked up later on. If it is brain-dead any 2-drop will yield the same result.
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>>166247815
>forest faggot evolve one princess and two feenas
>auto concede

My cblood experience
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>>166248253
>not using goblin mount
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Aggro Shadow is the new Control Blood in /svg/
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Ramp dragon is a fucking joke lmao
>do nothing for six turns
>lose
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>>166248358
>DoD lmao
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>>166248253
Are you not running taunts?
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keep the mummy over other early 2pp (except unica i.e. over lyriel or conjurer) if you don't have howl or at least voices of resentment on hands
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>>166248216
Ramp satan. Sun satan. And maybe dirt rune satan.

>>166248425
Then use vampire queen next turn retard. Almost no roach forest use both DoD and WoTF. Its usually one or the other.
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>>166248216
Guardian Sun Haven, Lamp Dragon, and Dirt Rune.
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MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
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>>166248210
>Lesser Mummy is also useful for maintaining board control by crashing into an evo'd unit while your other guys evo and go face.
that sounds like an awful play
it doesn't even push more damage than hoarding the evo and just sending lesser mummy toward face

>>166248240
>Clearly you haven't played the deck because that's a pretty common scenario
...is it?
i played the deck a lot in DE, and the idea of sequencing T5 cerberus into T6 mummy coco mimi seems... really bizarre, to me, i very rarely play cerberus on curve, it seems a lot better to lay a more resilient board T5 and use cerb on T6 to immediately drop coco
like, maybe i'm not up to date on how it functions in the new meta, but IMO occam's razor suggests that /svg/ anons' claims don't make sense to me because /svg/ anons are retarded, rather than because i'm ill-informed
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>>166248548
but those decks that i saw used like 2 dod 2 wotf
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>four dragonewt otk in a row

why the fuck is this becoming popular
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>>166248876
HEAR
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>>166248771
Well you are fucked i guess. At least you can beat daria and aggro bat. If they do use WoTF and DoD on turn5 and 6 though they cant use feena to evolve. So you can at least you stall for a bit.
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>>166248876
easy wins to you though
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>>166248726

>hoarding the evo
>in a deck that aims to end the game on t6, MAYBE t7

No, you use that evo for damage when you can.
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>>166248928
>easy

It's unironically dragon best deck. 50%+ winrate.
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>>166249053
i think face dragon maintains it higher
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>>166245275
Control runs 0-2
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>>166248943
>No, you use that evo for damage when you can.
then evo the fucking mummy and go face with it instead of mumbling something about board control
i'm sorry, when you're playing a deck that's full of so many 2/2s and you talk about lesser mummy "crashing into an evo'd unit while your other guys evo", you sound like an idiot, that's functionally equivalent to trading one of the other guys (why would you do that?) and playing lesser mummy (because I guess you don't have a better use of mana that turn?)
and i really don't appreciate being lectured by some idiotic johnny-come-lately to shadowcraft who thinks he can build e-peen by expounding on the workings of a less-than-popular aggro deck
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>>166248408
it's not 4d quantum hyper chess level complex, but aggro shadow requires more thought than people give it credit for
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>>166248216

WEW I'm fucking jelly my man.
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>>166249424
but less than aggro blood!

especially the castle version
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Assuming you bait out both Fiery Embraces, wouldn't Khawy fuck over DShift?
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>>166249585
>What is Wind Blast
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>>166249585
>le 2 mana infinitely spellboosted wind ;))))
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>>166249585

Wind Blast. Also some people still tech in 1x Fire Chain, so there's that
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>>166249585
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>>166249402

Not him, but sometimes you have a follower you will rather protect? A beefed up reaper or Unica?

My only issue is peeps thinking aggro Shadow is braindead. It might be back in DE, but there is much more play to go for post-rob
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I just fucking lost to a Nep deck because my three Phantom Howls were in my last 15 cards. I even drew all three of my Cerbs.
Spell fetch for Shadow when?
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I think I discovered a new meme guys
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>>166250217
It's normal to want to fuck Otohime, right?
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>>166250207
That's why you also use Voices of Resentment or Mummy.
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>>166250275
Yes, but she's mine, so you can't.
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>>166250207
where were your mummies and voices of resentment
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>>166250275

It's abnormal to not want to fuck Otohime.
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>>166250317
not this shit again
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>>166250275
Yes.
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80182 pls kill me
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>People still playing this unbalanced bullshit in 2017
LMAO
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>>166250346
Huh?
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>>166250217

Serious question guys, should I add Leonidas as a tertiary Wincon?
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>>166250389
/hsg/ is that way
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>>166250279
>>166250328
I'm playing midrange
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>>166250443
With all the odins floating around and being one of the slowest if not the slowest card in the game, no.
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>>166250437
Some anons roleplayed their Otohime NTR adventures in the thread yesterday
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>>166250437
he means go away with your cuck roleplay
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So is the control blood is good meme dead yet?

>Auto lose to Elana
>Auto lose to bahamut
>Auto lose to any deck that actually runs closers
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>>166250568
I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>166250539
I see.
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>>166250535

Good point, odin is rampant.
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>>166246758
>play aggro shadow
>face 3 dshitters in a row

easiest 3 wins of my life.
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>>166250370
Might wanna post the source to this one. I'm building up my deck, you see.
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>>166250164
>A beefed up reaper or Unica?
i tend to evaluate unica's card text lot lower than most people here seem to, and for that matter a lot lower than my opponents seem to, but i see your point about reaper
still, though, in the sample situation vs rune, since you missed your T1, you're probably not going to have 4 shadows on T5 if you took a shadow reaper line earlier, since T2/T3/T4 each produce at most 1 shadow-able unit unless you play specifically skeleton knight on T3 or topdeck a skull beast
considering that you therefore will draw 4,5 additional cards before the text on lesser mummy starts to have any unique significance, i don't really see the point of keeping it in hand over cards whose text will have obvious utility starting in 2 turns
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>>166250627
>Elana
Run Bahamut
>Bahamut
Run Odin
>closers
Run Vamp Queen for elf, accept that Dshift is your worst match up and you will lose to it often when you see it.
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>>166250763
Read the filename. That's the Pixiv id.
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>>166250443
He's fun if you get him to work but sadly everyone who isn't aggro tends to run Odin due to Seraph mainly. Seraph was a mistake.
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>>166250831
>Vamp Queen
>Doing fuck all against closers
Wow those useless 1/1s are sure going to do shit all when they clear them in one turn and then you're still fucked because Blood has 0 good late drops
>Bahamut
>Doing fuck all against Cudgel or Themis
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I have
>2 reapers
>0 cerbs
>0 howls

I have 3200 vials. What could I craft? 2 cerbs and 2 howls?
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Someone give me a aggrosword list.
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>>166250953
Thanks
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>>166251038
Cerb is a legendary, anon.
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>>166251038
a bat deck
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>>166251102
Oh shit is it. Welp no Shadow for me I guess.

I forgot to mention

>0 Mordecais
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>>166250207
I just lost to another Nep because I drew no Cerbs, but two of my Phantom Howls.

someone make it stop
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>>166251019
>Vamp Queen doing fuck all against closers
Those 1/1s put in a lot of work in the elf match up, he has to have them both dead to get a clean roach OTK.
>Bahamut doing fuck all against Cudgel or Themis
There are things that kill Bahamut, yes. So does dance of death. That doesn't make him a bad card to run. And if Haven makes it to turn 10 without using an evolve point for cudgel then you have bigger problems.
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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, CYGAMES

NERF RUNE ALREADY

WE'RE BEGGING YOU
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>>166251386
Why would they nerf Rune? They don't make money from that you retard
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>>166251386

>nerfing the whale catcher
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>>166251386
>This graph gets closer and closer to that "what swordbbs see" meme graph that was pushed by the resident shitposter early this month
swordbbs confirmed predicting the future.
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>>166251386
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>>166251382
>he has to have them both dead to get a clean roach OTK.
it is so much easier for roach to clear two 1/1s than it is for roach to clear, oh, i don't know, any other fucking ward in the game, with the exception of sword's tiny wards like pirate and veteran lancer
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>>166251386
What a healthy meta
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>>166251386
A month ago it was hags.
We're always gonna be complaining about something, aren't we?
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>>166250627
Elana vs Blood used to favour Blood due to Revelation clearing any board that Elana builds, and being able to cuck their pushes with VQueen (because they couldn't clear the 1/1s without themising the board). Now it's even more lopsided favoring Blood due to them running multiple Odins and Bahamuts.

Blood uses their own bahamuts, so that's whatever. Bahamut chain wars. You would have a point if you instead said that they autolose to Satan, but few decks run it.

CBlood is constantly at 20~ HP due to all their healing. It's unfavored in combo matchups, but that's most control decks.
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>>166251721
Yes.

100/7 = 14% for each class.
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>>166251721
hags never got even over 25% play rate

if you can't see how ridiculous that is then I'm sorry
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>>166251620
It's not an easy match up for Control Blood, but it is not auto lose like you stated earlier. If he doesn't have a field, chances are good he has to delay OTK a turn to clear the bats.
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>>166251386
>Over 1/3 players are playing 1 of the 7 classes
Balanced :)
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>>166251721
Complaining about 36.1% is pretty fucking fine to me
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can a pleb get some assistant?

ID 30835
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>>166251386
>"NERF RUNE PLS" in every single thread
>but when Sword did it in DE it was okay and even heavily defended
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Bahamut is a broken card, fact.
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/svg/ said Floral Fencer was bad, but I still see her being used along Otohime in Mid Range sword. You didn't lie did you?
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>>166251386
Any advice on how to win the Daria mirror match bros? Just want to prepare myself for the meta for next two and a half months.
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>>166251806
Hi newbb Haven actually had 32% in some moments.

>>166251869
>>166251539
>>166251823
Swordbbsreally need to growup netdecks don't work anymore.
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>>166251869
Point to the chart where Sword had 36% play rate
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>>166251869
Sword never had these ridiculous numbers.
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>>166250539
In my defense, the guy who has Otohime as his waifu responds to posts like that so often that I thought he was genuinely baiting me into NTRing him. And I apologized afterward when I was wrong.
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>>166251839
ty ty
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>>166251982
(You)
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>>166251831
rune only gets to 36% because that figure is a fusion of tempo and dshift
in DE masters meta, forest and rune combined were 46% of the ladder, at times higher. We are currently looking at a masters meta where forest and rune combined are 48% of the meta. I fail to see why this is cause for alarm compared to the entire state of shadowverse history, or even cause for noting anything unusual.
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>>166251974
Besides determining if you're the aggressor or not, it's just luck and mulliganing properly.
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Is the whiner time now?

good night bbs get to /hsg/ if you think that counterplay is bad.
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>>166251982
>Haven actually had 32% in some moments

Post a source
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>>166251982
>Haven actually had 32% in some moments.
proof? haven had a max of 30% playrate for 1 whole week according to shadowlog

how many weeks has it been since rune is on the top? and it keeps getting more popular
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>This game has progressively gotten worse with each update
Really makes you think
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Why'd you guys say Elana's was bad? Seems to be doing better than pure seraph so far.
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i dont even know why i did but pre-emptivly evolved mini soul devil made opponent rage quit.
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>>166252384
list please
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>>166252242
Also known as, everyone run the same netdecks because this game might as well be automated with how set in stone the deck interactions in this game are
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>>166252365

You mean better
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>rune is getting more popular
>meantime i have to do a 1 runecraft win daily with a pure neutral deck
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>>166252224
You're playing a shell game with the numbers.
>rune only gets to 36% because that figure is a fusion of tempo and dshift
All of the other craft slices on the chart are representative of multiple deck types as well.
>in DE masters meta, forest and rune combined were 46% of the ladder, at times higher.
We are not talking about the combined representation of two crafts, we are talking about the high representation of one craft which is still increasing week over week.
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>>166252278
>>166252341
here.

Your move now.

Can you guys at least pretend to be adults?
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>>166252481
>Elana's cancer running rampant
>90% of new cards in each udpate are useless trash that will never see play
>Pretty much only one viable deck per craft unless you're Rune
inb4
>t-tier two decks are viable
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>>166252540

I've only got 1 levi.

Thank god Dirtrune matches up well against other decks to the point where budget decks can win.
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is Gabriel any good?
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>>166252586
>Guy admits that Haven had 30% for 1 whole week in DE
>You pull that graph for him
What is his move exactly?
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>>166252671
AOTS
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>>166252224
yeah, combine two whole crafts together and you get a high playrate while rune is occupying 36% of ladder by itself

what kind of argument is this

>>166252586
I just mentioned that in my post, you spastic

rune has been on top ever since rob started, while haven's playrate kept declining
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>>166252668
God I miss being in B rank.
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>>166252586
I'm not seeing a 32% playrate
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>>166251721
as much as i hate haven faggot DE meta was never this bad
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>>166252628

Nigger I climbed to Masters using T2 and T3 decks. Get fucking good.
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On a scale of one to Daria, how would you rate this?
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>>166252724

I'm actually AA2.

It's not like I'm lacking neutral legos or other golds.

I just don't have Levi x3 or Taboo x3
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>>166252586
>Haven had a 32% playrate
>If you say it's 30% you're literally a child!
>Usage ratio: 30%

What did he mean by this?
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>>166252806
>I typed some words into a text box that means it's real!
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>>166252815
Dragon wing. Your move ;^)
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>>166252668
actually you are right, i have 1 levi too and i think i will add him to the neutral deck to make it a bit stronger
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>>166252692
>aots
huh? I'm new to the game
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>>166252671
She is angel wife material.
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I'm just tired of seeing Levi's face honestly. He's never just on the board either. He always needs to evolve and shove his dumb old man face into the center of the screen while screaming his catch phrase before he trades and dies immediately- His only purpose in life to be a living face damage provider and cancer enabler.
Remove Levi
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>>166252690
>>166252696
>>166252737
>>166252818

Pleasse guys grow up is like talking to libtards.

You guys just want to complain and shit the thread like /hsg/ was.

I bet you guys even want to nerf Daria when the bullshit of the deck is free burn with no drawback from levi+pierci rune and a lot of spells.
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>>166252564
>You're playing a shell game with the numbers.
and you're being willfully ignorant of the context
masters meta since the beginning of fucking time has dshift as deck #2, best noncombo deck as deck #1
now that the best noncombo deck is also a rune deck, it is completely unremarkable that masters is 36% rune. I wouldn't even be surprised if that figure swells up into the 40s - and I wouldn't consider it a sign of an imbalanced metagame either, compared to every single metagame in shadowverse history going back months and months. And I guarantee you Cygames shares my lack of alarm.
You can either come to terms with that fact and realize they're not going to change shit, or keep growing more and more hysterical in your reddit-tier hearthtard echo chamber while reality moves on without you. No skin off my back if you choose to keep whining.
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>>166252815
I would be praying he has no lurching corpse
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>>166253012
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>>166252948
>second worst girl
>wife material
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>>166253012
Please go spend your time learning English instead of shitposting here, thanks.
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>>166252970
http://usamin.love/card/timeworn_mage_levi/j_summon.wav
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>play aggro
>have 8 1 drops and 11 2 drops
>don't get a single one of them in the first 2 turns
>barely lose cause I skipped turn 1 and 2
Fuck this shit.
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>>166253012
>tells other people to grow up
>can't make a single argument that's not a strawman
I didn't even tell you what I think needs to be nerfed on the deck

My point is that regardless of what you think, Rune needs to be toned down a notch, and the numbers are there for people to see
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>there's a deck that counter 800% of the ladder source: /svg/ but is bad against some matches

When cygames will make a good tier 0 meta?
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>>166253124
I think he means the evolve one
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>>166253124
Remove
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>>166252947

And new to /a/ as well it seems

Anime of the Season, he's refering to >>166252948
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>>166253227
Unironically shoot yourself in the head
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>>166253358
There's an ironic way to shoot yourself in the head?
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Is there any reason to run Matriarch? This card feels like a fucking meme that is only really useful against a craft nobody uses anymore.
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>>166253340
>visiting /a/

not that guy btw
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What's the maddest you've got in this game?
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Reminder to report and ignore the ban evading monkey.
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>>166253425
It destroys aggro but other than that not really.
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>>166253030
> I wouldn't even be surprised if that figure swells up into the 40s - and I wouldn't consider it a sign of an imbalanced metagame either
We will see if Cygames agrees within the next month or so of time. The reddit/HS boogeyman insults are unnecessary and baseless but I understand if what it takes to walk away from an argument feeling like the winner is making an appeal to ridicule, then so be it.
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>>166253223
Everyday since the game release there are crybbs complaining about something not '''''''''''fair''''''''''.

Elana,elf,shadow,sword everything was called cancer.
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>>166253451

Well I don't visit the actual board anymore, but this place is close enough.
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>>166253419
>He's never killed himself ironically
lmao kid
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>>166253552
Is there an esport that is perfectly balanced?
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>>166253419
with a water gun!

>>166253552
there is a strong but balanced stuff like aggro bats and there is a broken stuff like tempo rune
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>>166253030
>Cygames lack of alarm
They have 0 incentive to balance the game. What the fuck do they care, they aren't going to suddenly make more money if the game is balanced
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>>166253483

Any situation that involves Fairy Beast
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>>166252671
She can be used as a finisher in some decks. 1 or 2 copies of her used to be used in aggro forest and storm haven. But I haven't seen her be used since RoB.
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Why the fuck is the shuffling in this so completely not random and shit? I consistently get the same fucking cards in my hand and mulligan over and over and over again.
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>>166253483
18 HP death in one turn against sword
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>>166253680
Seeing Fairy Beast get bounced makes me pretty mad.
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>>166253653
maybe, but they'll make less money if the game isn't
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>>166253647

Fighting games. Then again, it also depends on the company. I'd say Skullgirls is a perfectly balanced game, but that game is dead.
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>Make Flame and Glass Earthrune meme deck
>Does better than my normal Earthrune deck despite never getting flame and glass off.

I don't care about wins I just want memes :(
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>>166253223
>>166253552
>nigger can't even speak proper english
Go back to your spic country, no one gives a shit.
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>>166242356
>he says as he plays another 3 guardian golems
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>>166253748
Congrats you've identified another reason why Haven is bullshit. Fucking Priest on their evo unlock, every fucking time

>>166253784
prove it, if Rune is broken more people whale to get Rune decks. They gain nothing from nerfing them except a profit loss
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>>166253483

My power got cut and made me lose because other people were doing electric work without giving me a heads up.

My lethal puppers was flying up, after a long ass match that was quite a struggle.
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>>166253532
>The reddit/HS boogeyman insults are unnecessary and baseless
"HS boogeyman" - can you even think outside of mems?
they're not baseless at all, you fucking retard, and I'm not feeling like a winner as long as you continue to draw breath
whining about the meta with no sense of history, barely anything that implies you actually play the fucking game instead of shitposting about balance all day, cherrypicking data that you're completely incapable of reading, this is cancerous behavior, and it's not a kind of cancer that came from the 4chan-indigenous /mbgg/ core of shadowverse discussion
regardless of whether you personally enjoy reddit the site, you're clearly part of the same brain-damaged demographic as redditors
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>>166253684
Why did I write "used" so many times? I need to sleep more before posting.
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What the hell do I play? No matter what deck I try I just keep sliding back down to the bottom of AA1
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>>166253934
>This mad about nothing
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We should go to discord...
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>>166253934
I didn't read that text pile of filth. Good luck in your endeavors.
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>>166253552
Yes, people will complain about everything. But hear, back in DE I would complain about the Haven v Shadow matchup and how unfair it was for Shadow, I wouldn't even complain about Mid Sword even though it was clearly overperforming.

Now apparently Cygames thought both of those things were indeed a problem, that's why they introduced Sexton and a bunch of AoEs this expac to counter Otohime into Sage. Well guess what, now Rune is overperforming, and something needs to be done about it.
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>>166253483
When they confirmed they weren't touching DShift.
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>>166253773
>Fairy Beast get bounced
h-hot

it's better for you than them throwing another copy of it on the board though, they can't do it in one turn anyway because it costs 6pp (well, without white wolf memes but it's a waste then)

>>166253876
it hurts the game popularity longterm
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>>166254008

Mid Sword, Daria, Control Blood, OTK Roach, Seraph haven
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>>166253653
Well, the game is already balanced.
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>>166254065
Post good roach dick
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>>166254114

I have OTK Roach, but Im terrible at playing it. I honestly don't know how people play this deck efficiently, guess I'm not smart enough to do Nobel Prize award winning computations on 2 turn foresight
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>>166254057
>It hurts game popularity long term
kek retards who actually believe this
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>>166254048

If they nerf the free burn of Daria all the control decks would get back and perform well but d-shift and seraph would get back this is worse .
The biggest problem is mitigate all the free followers and damage face from Daria decks.
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>>166254114
I posted Arisa getting a good roach dick earlier, but I got a warning for it.
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What the fuck is this matchmaking? Is nobody playing this game anymore? It's been like this for the past two days, come the fuck on.
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>tfw everytime I get lethal against Haven or Rune I sit there until either the timer on my turn is about to end or they leave themselves
kill yourselves cancer
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>>166254250
me too, have that deck, replace forestcraft dailies, mad that i didn't make seraph instead

>>166254338
i thought that carrot-edited picture was considered sfw
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>>166254416
If you win, it's 150 rank points.
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>>166254048

>sexton fixed the matchup

Sexton fixed nothing. Haven's new toys JUST happen to counter shadow's new toy (note the singular use) Shadow Reaper.

Lion can hit reaper under ambush, you can try to feed him before hand, but it doesn't end well when they themsis it. Tribunal hits Reaper under ambush as well.

I chose not to make a point of dwelling on it too much, contrary to what this post might make you think because the ladder isn't spammed by Haven anymore and Shadow actually made a comeback.
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>>166254309
People already play DS and Seraph. At least they can be countered easily. You really just hope Dorothy players gets bad draws so you don't get run over.
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daria and the gank

who's winning here
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I saw your post in Vitagen, anon.
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>>166254605

Wait, are you just cherry picking, or does that meme actually function?
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>>166254639
I know, I fucked up.
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>>166254309
>dshift kills control
>daria kills midrange
>dirtrune kills aggro (if it were t1 as well)
Gets the noggin' goin'.

>>166254556
Well I didn't say Sexton fixed the matchup, but that was Cygames' attempt anyway.

It was fun using him in the beginning of the patch at least.
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>>166254605
Noice
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>queue in unranked with a discard dragon deck
>get matched against dariafag
>think to myself about how trash the people who bring the tier 1 netdecks in unranked are
>win the game
>it was actually ranked all along because i misclicked the game type
H-hear the dragon's roar
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I just let my timers run out and make it as long and annoying as possible and then quit my game anytime I play dirt rune or any variant of healing seraph fucking sacks of shit.
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>>166254605
haven't seen gobu/feena in the cursed general combo deck
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>>166254785
Are you in A0 anon? I just had a game end against a discard dragon where I bricked pretty hard early. Plently of spellboosting minions, nothing to spellboost.
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I just want to get to masters so I can use fun decks. Fuck not being able to have fun.
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>>166254416
I wish I could get matched with better players 100% of the time.

Getting matched against better opponents isn't a big deal. Thats -70 score on a loss and +150 on a win.
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>>166254048
>Well guess what, now Rune is overperforming
Rune is overperforming, this is true. But you have to understand how good the meta is right now compared to any point in shadowverse history. Rune is overperforming; in standard PTP forest was overperforming even worse. In DE both tempo forest and mid sword were simultaneously overperforming to the same extent that tempo rune currently is, which means twice as much meta space occupied by cut-and-paste netdecks crowding out anything more creative or off-beat.
The data shows - and cursory ladder experience should also fucking show - that this is a relatively diverse ladder ecosystem. Yet we get complaints that are grossly disproportionate to the actual facts, even while people are consulting the facts sites at a higher rate than ever, because the babies who entered this general after /hsg/ died love to complain even once they've become completely decoupled from reality.
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what forest decks use verdant steward? i'm trying to log my matches but i keep killing them too fast :^)
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>>166254906
AA1, got matched against some A2-3 dude.
He did not bricked and i was at 5 hp when the game ended.
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>it's another enemy topdecks lethal just before the turn you lethal
I swear this shit pisses me off the most in this game.
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>>166255063
some otk roach decks use him
but anybody can, really, it's a useful ward
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>Rune has a positive winrate against every class, but Haven
>Rune defense force in each thread keeps bringing up Haven for no reason, and how it's "broken"
Really stimulates the cerebrum.
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>>166255063

Wolf-Bolt and PtP. You'll see more of the former, as PtP Forest is dead.
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How do you get card emblems besides ranking up the ladder? Saw Dragonsong Flute earlier
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>>166255281
Obtain the lego in question.
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>>166254482
>i thought that carrot-edited picture was considered sfw
me too, I dunno.
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>>166255281
You have to get it from a pack.
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H-hear the dragons roar
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>>166255281
>>166255308
to add to this. You have to get the card from a pack.
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>>166255175

I don't like him

You have to avoid overdrawing, it's a minor complaint, but I'm the kind that likes to hold cards to hand since Tia is a comforting card to play.

>>166255263

Doesn't Dirtrune matchup well against Haven in general?
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>>166254065
What kind of Control Blood deck even survives in this meta?
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>>166240927
Too bad she'll only accept Kyle's zombie dick.
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>>166255281
>>166255308
From a pack, crafting it does not count. Also you cannot get standard legendary emblems.
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What's the most versatile class? Or are they all good choices if I want to play a variety of decks on a single class?
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>>166255263
>play DS
>beat every Haven player because nobody uses Storm anymore

Certainly gives my noggin a joggin
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>>166255175
>>166255274
thanks. i'm guessing probably wolf bolt then since they were spamming card draw.
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I have the uncensor, but my Harnessed Glass loading screen didn't have any bondage gear. Does that mean that the pic floating around here is a shoop?
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>>166255434
>you cannot get standard emblem

But why. I want muh tsubaki.
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>>166255402
Every Rune deck that runs Petrification auto wins against Haven. We're talking about the tempo mouth breathers that flocked to the class for easy ladder, and are now defending it like their very lives are on the line.
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>>166255419

The kind that faces Daria all day, which isn't that uncommon desu
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>>166255402
>Doesn't Dirtrune matchup well against Haven in general?
>dirtrune matching up well against anything that isn't garbagecraft like dragon or midrange shadow
The deck barely ekes out a 51% winrate against seraph haven, and even that's dubious. Unfavored against sun satan. Unfavored against elana, including elana seraph. Unfavored against storm. Of course you can reliably win those matchups if you're a much better player, but at that point the deck isn't doing much for you other than "being a control deck".
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>>166255449
Rune, haven, and blood are the most varied, in that order.
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>>166255593
i want my al miraj
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>>166255593
>rerolled for animated tsubaki
>opened a second animated tsubaki
>tsubaki emblem never
why even live
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>>166255419
you drop the midrange shit like razory claw, mary, and vania and go pure control.
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>>166255803
Mary is midrange? Isn't it your 6 damage combo for turn 8?
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>>166254605
I don't get it, what happened here?
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>>166255675
Thanks, I'll reroll for one of them.
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>try control
>immediately queue against the one fucking Dimension Shift player
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>>166255803

Isn't razory claw good removal?

Is the self damage the reason why it's not worth it.

I don't understand.
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>win 3 times as dragon in dailies
>everyone is running aggro shit
It's the damn fucking hard to build up shit when everything you drop dies fast as fuck and can't ramp up.

I just fucking lucked out that a aggro blood player kept spamming razor claw just enough for evolve forte to smack him
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>>166255893
Floral evo + Blitz/Gelt is lethal
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>>166255980

Stick with Vampiric Kiss and Diabolic Drain for cheap removal. Wardrobe Raider too. Though if youre running Bloody Mary you need Claws
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>>166255937
You'll also run into the guy that runs 3 seraphs and draws into them all when you start teching 2 Odins. Good luck!
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>>166256012
Just play face dragon that doesn't need to ramp. Or if you do play ramp use the one with genesis dragon.
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>>166256012
Become the aggro yourself
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>>166254065
>Mid Sword
I thought that shit was dead and everyone was playing Control now?
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getting nothing from rerolls and im sick of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>166254605
>at 4 health
>remember that even JO dragon looks great from cherry picked screenshots
My memedar is going off something fierce here.
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>>166256171
It's okay if you don't queue into anyone playing Daria or any control deck
:^)
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>>166256103
>>166256164

I'm running an incomplete Fortecraft. Shit's hard since everything I drop dies to removal or followers smashing.

I wish Date Masamune has a fucking built in rush or bane from the get go instead of slap everything to Enhance.
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>>166256012
Play Face Dragon, you don't need to ramp. Discard and Storm Ramp play ramp shit, but Face doesn't.
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>>166255553
I think that is her Rage of Bahamut art. There are several cards that had their arts from RoB altered for both Japanese and English versions of Shadowverse. Those don't get uncensored by the patch because there is no uncensored version on the Japanese client.
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>>166255980
hungering horde is better as pure removal, you lose the face damage but you gain huge swing turns and blowout potential.

vamp kiss is also nice for the healing against aggro.
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>>166256284
>>remember that even JO dragon looks great from cherry picked screenshots
Do you mean any game?
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>>166256383
That's fucking bullshit what the fuck
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>>166254879
it let you search either gelt, veteran lancer, and maid leader

and maid leader into cursed general or aurelia or albert

i put 2 cursed 1 aurelia 1 albert
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>>166256661
O-Of course.
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>Forestshitter gets to play Woodkin's Curse on the same target TWICE to get lethal

How can you change a follower's defense to 1 if it's already 1? That is horseshit
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>>166256973
>>166256973
>>166256973

New fred
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>>166256952
It's a spell. It doesn't care whether you already used it on a follower.
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>>166255419

It stomps the witch out of Daria netdeckers, and can quickly grind down aggroblood lists. Can even give OTK roach a run for its money if you draw your fat wards on curve.
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>>166250217
I like to run 3 dances of death in aggro decks personally. The card is busted. :)
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