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YGO General #2425
Cute Loli Edition

Last Thread: >>166085474

● YGOPro is an automated simulator.
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Useful Links:
Current Official Rulebook, last updated 6/27/15:
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/EN_SDSE_Rulebook.pdf
Wiki with a wealth of information for the players:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market:
http://yugiohprices.com/
OCG decklists:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
https://ocg.xpg.jp/v/deck/event.html
TCG decklists:
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists
TCG/OCG news sites:
https://ygorganization.com/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/
Hypergeometric Probability Calculator:
http://yugioh.party/
Official /dng/ ruling test:
https://testmoz.com/466984

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Tyranno's Rage (February 25th)
●OCG: Code of Duelist (April 15th)

●TCG: Pendulum Domination (January 20th)
●TCG: Raging Tempest (February 10th)
●TCG: Structure Decks Machine Reactor & Dinosmasher’s Fury (April 13th)

Before asking to be spoonfed, try the following:
● READ THE OP
● Read the cards carefully
● Lurk and read the archives
● Google your deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event, see the provided links above
● Most games have single rounds or a best of three match; matches are encouraged as they teach you to make use of your side deck for tournament play
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nice game, yugibaboons
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>>166210761
Oy vey! We get to play with the cards Konami prints for extended periods of time!
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Here for YGO was a mistake
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Xth eternal reminder that Red-Eyes is best dragonBro
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So how do chemicritters play?
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>>166210557
>hiding her cute forehead
HERETIC
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Ugly thread.
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>>166211171
like shit
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>>166211219
Threadly reminder that there's 2 days left to vote on the ghost loli's official name:

http://www.strawpoll.me/12123070/
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It's too soon to call this the ugliest loli, we have summer coming up after all.
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>>166211268
So like what?
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>>166211535
>inb4 qt beach loli ft bare tummy
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>>166211732
Expect Ghost tier mediocre or ugliest loli.
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>>166210557
Damn I actually reinstalled YGOPRO off this link because I fucked my old shit up and why is the card art quality now SO much better? It's crazy.
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>>166211935
Ghost Ogre*
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>>166212002
I always said that you just need to rename your pics folder into pic_hq but you guys never listen.
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Dinosmasher's Fury is a fucking terrible name.
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>>166210761

>previous list was April 11th to 28th August
>just under 5 months
>current list is nearly 5 months old

It will be out soon, I expect it to be within a couple of days. Just wait.
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You all fail to realize the wasted potential of all this legacy support, support for recent archetypes and new archetypes in general.

As long as 4-6 decks dominate the top spot, very few people will actually care about all of these new additions and the culture will remain stagnant with very little reward in experimentation. Yugioh has the potential to be a flourishing card game, but without a structured metagame the shit vs not shit dichotomy will remain.

The only answer is to create a tiered metagame. Konami should repurpose their tournaments so that different tiers receive different prizes, this way no one steps on the toes of the players who insist on using the cream of the crop, but players who want to use other archetypes have incentive to do so.

It's the only way. Deep down, you know it, don't you?
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Why her effect couldn't be
>You can target 1 "Zoodiac" card in your Graveyard, except "Zoodiac Cluckle"; shuffle it into the Deck, then draw 1 card.
Not even Rabbina and Ram are this useless.
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>>166213521
Because monster effect that targets is running rampant and she's actually a "decent" counter against Zoodiac itself?
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>>166213465
I cannot in anyway see it being possible to tier decks, plus then you run into the problem of people getting shafted by running a weaker version of a deck yet still being in the higher tier, granted they'd still get shafted currently
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>>166213785
Well, look how many people care.
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Reminder if everybody who used Rat was lined up and shot the game would vastly improve
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>>166214368
Ugly lolies everywhere.
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Is it worth making a deck around pic related incorporated with every battle trap known to man and Moon Mirror Shield to fucking humiliate your opponent?
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>>166213521
Because they accidentally made Rat broken, and they don't want to restrict it before making money. If they make the rest of the zoodiacs better, it will literally be a tier 0 deck.
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>>166214754
Absolutely
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>>166214754
>relying completely on battle trap
>requires pot of greed
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>>166214368
Where are those shitters who used to say to not build decks whith 40 cards now?
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>>166214803
it IS a tier 0 deck
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>>166214929
>I'm fucking stupid
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>>166213465
Konami should focus more on supporting older decks instead of oversaturating the cardpool with a shitton of archetypes. Every pack nowadays we get like 2-3 archetypes and most of them do nothing.
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>>166214846
what's the stupidest fucking monster to ever beat your opponent down with other than Avatar of the Pot?

If you're using elements of Barrier Beat and lock your opponent down first, you could put in retarded monsters in a casual setting.
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>>166215862
>Konami should focus more on supporting older decks instead of oversaturating the cardpool with a shitton of archetypes.
Like Vanguard then? Sure, that sounds awesome.
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>>166216021
Frog the Jam is my vote, there's something funny about a card excluded from every single frog card ever.
Fuck slime toad

Moki Moki would probably be another good one.
A piece of exodia would probably be pretty funny
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I've never played yu-gi-oh before and I want to get into it, i found out that pic related was on the appstore, is it a good way to start playing ? is there a large community ? which boosters should I get ?
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>>166214368
No, no, I'm saying that if she actually have a decent monster effect, on top of that overlay effect, she'll be another Viper.


Why Ram tho?
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>>166216021

Tin Archduke
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>>166216231
No no and no. Play ygopro, read the game's rules, learn the game's rules, READ THE CARDS and play against the AI until you learn the basic stuff
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>>166215607
Do you even know what Tier 0 means? It means that it is the only viable deck in the game, which means that any other deck has no realistical chance of winning. There were people with True Dracos and Kozmo winning in OCG.
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>>166216290
Because Lyca.
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>>166216231
Dont play Duel Links.
Play World Championship 2011, Tag Force Special, or Tag Force 5.
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>>166216749
So you are saying D.Rulers and EmEm weren't T0 decks because some other decks topped at that time, gotcha.
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>>166216215
seriously this monster is so fucking retarded. I mean look at it, what is it supposed to even be?
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>>166217025
There is bunch of non-Zoodiacs making to top 8 in OCG.
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>>166216821
Destroy it using Drancia?
Revive Drancia in case you get Slumber'd then attach Viper you searched before?

How are you supposed to put him in field if your NS is mostly taken by Rat, or put him in grave to SS with Lyca?
Thoroughblade also takes your NS.
Is he supposed to be backup plan only or something?
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>>166216231
Duel Links is trash P2W (or endlessly grind to win like cucks are wont to point out), don't play it.
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>>166217573
If this is your only reference point, then I'm sorry.
88% of those is Zoodiac.
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>>166216021
Kuriboh I ended the game with him too.
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>>166214803
>accidentally
They knew exactly what they were doing.

>>166216181
No, something actually good.
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>>166217605
I didn't build the decks man.
I know Lyca is the reason because people started using Ram after MACR.
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>>166217548
Slime that looks like a toad
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>>166217848
Like Seven Seas then? Because that's an old deck that became T1 with some few cards.
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>>166217665
>or endlessly grind to win like cucks are wont to point out
What?
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>>166217897
Do they actually use Lyca or is she mainly just a name so Tigress has a spare material to attach Ram?
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>>166218201
Lyca allows T1 Natty Beast
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>>166218201
Why would you want to attach Ram?
Is there even any relevant trap that target and worth negating?
Is Viper "protection" from battle not good enough?
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>>166218043
No, something that isn't made for cuckolds.
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>>166216231
It's a great game for beginners but it doesn't really teach you much about the new summons mechanics like Xyz, synchro, and Pendulum. On the plus side, best girl teaches you the basics of YGO as well as some simple strategies.

Age of Discovery is the perfect pack to start with since you get a lot of in theme cards for water monsters without being left with a bunch of off theme cards for different decks.

However, Legacy of the Duelist is a far better choice since you can play with the official Ygo rules (40-60 card deck with 5/5 zones) and get starting decks for the all the summoning methods (from ritual to Pendulum). The only downside is that it isn't free
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>>166218359
Burns your normal summon and rat r4 to do it though.
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>>166218549
But Natty Beast is good in their current meta, alongside Drancia.
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>>166218549
And? Better than getting your field dark hole'd.
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>>166218359
They aren't even using that X-Saber tuner.
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>>166214368
What the actual fuck is going on with those extras.
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If anyone cares

1. Any ideas for three R4 slots?

2. Gravekeeper's Heretic any good?
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>>166217897
Oh, I get it.
>NS Ram/Blade discard Ram
>Bull search Viper, Lyca SS Ram, then Drancia
>pop one with Drancia if able, then if opponent attack/Slumber, revive Drancia with Ram and attach Viper
I'm a bit curious why they only use a single Tenki and 0 Galaxy Worm.
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>>166217826
>Zoodiac 30.67%
>Zoodiac Metalfoes 9.33%
>Zoodiac Magician 5.33%
FFS, the Road of the King guy needs to stop this autism and just pool everything into Zoodiac already.
All it does is give people this false hope of the deck not being tier 0.
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>>166219304
NO LIGHTNING
NO CASTEL almost
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>>166219401
Tenki is limited.
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>>166219401
I'm sure if you think really hard about why they use a single tenki you can figure it out
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>>166219401
Tenki got lost instead of Triangle
And I guess Worm using the normal isn't worth it

>>166219462
>Gagaga Samurai for pure damage pushing
Jesus
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>>166214368
YES

YES

FINALLY A DECK THAT TRANSCENDS THE RANK 4 TOOLBOX

THERE'S NO GOING BACK NOW BOYS
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So is the future of synchro is mini engines like wind witches and speedroid?
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>>166214368
>the rat cancer has evolved to hand trap format due to 5head loli's presence

What a horrible world we live in.
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>>166219605
>>166219656
>>166219665
[autistic screeching]
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>>166219984
Is this any worse than past formats?
I'm pretty sure old decks like Chaos Control, TeleDAD, Dragon Rulers, Nekroz and EmEm are all better than Zoodiacs, it's just that ever since DUEA-THSF, we've been stuck in this odd power vacuum of underpowered decks from the new sets.
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>>166219971
Indeed, and the worst part is the only motive to even play Synchro is if it's a super powerful card like the indestructible WW's Crystal Wing.

>>166220176
More than power is about having a ton of shit to fuck with you like barriers, solemn, hand traps on top of a super consistent engine.
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>>166219984
Oh god the maxed out 5heads, Ogres and C's, before you even count Kaijus

>>166220083
Say goodbye to that consistency nerd. And no I won't accept the Bull as a substitute
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>>166220176
Yes when 90%+ decks are Rat.dek and it's handful of variants. Hell, even D R A G O N S at the bare minimum had to compete with Spellbooks.
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>>166220176
You think Goyo Guardian, Stardust and DAD would still be hot shit in the current game?
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>>166220350
>Hell, even D R A G O N S at the bare minimum had to compete with Spellbooks.
And that was better how?
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>>166220256
Pretty depressing for synchro but xyz isn't doing better with it's new advances. So fusion is the one for the most part that is "balanced".
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Remember when people complained about Synchros ruining the game?
Now it's the most pathetic of the four summoning methods.
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>>166221209
Planeswalkers ruined the game.
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>>166220350
Barrier Beat is the modern day Spellbooks :^)
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>>166220842
>for the most part that is "balanced"
I was about to bring up the gorillion of boss monsters that are invulnerable or have armades or just shit that can OTK you with their mere existence on the field, but then i remember
-Dimensional Barrier is what puts fusion decks in tier 2 or lower
-You have to go to a -2 AT THE VERY LEAST to do a fusion for a boss monster
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>>166221637
normal summon kingii
fuse with thing, summon thing
lost 2 cards, get 1 card
1 minus 2 is negative 2
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>>166221637
>I was about to bring up the gorillion of boss monsters that are invulnerable or have armades or just shit that can OTK you with their mere existence on the field
And that's relevant how?
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>>166221637
>Dimensional Barrier is what puts fusion decks in tier 2 or lower
I don't understand this meme.
Zod also only use one kind of summoning method, and they get fucked as hard as any Fusion deck when they met Barrier.
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Whats the seekrit meta right now in TCG? I want to meme on some nerds.
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>>166221891
because fusion summons are activated so you can just chain barrier and it's basically a costless Solemn Warning
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>>166221637
>-You have to go to a -2 AT THE VERY LEAST to do a fusion for a boss monster
I thought we were in 2017.
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>>166221949
Abyss Actors. Just maintain pressure and don't let opponent's read your cards less they find out how shitty they actually are.
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>>166221986
>opponent summons rat
>activate barrier
wow that was hard
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>>166221986
If you use shit like Kingii and Wolf you lost nothing.
Xyz left useless monster in field that might be exploited (read:Orichalc) or wiped clean next turn while Fusion material mostly stay in hand where it's generally safe from your opponent.
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>>166221891
Only pure Zodiacs give a shit about Barrier. Draco or Eidolon variants can still fuse or in the case of Draco, still push your shit in.

Also unlike Xyz, Synchro and even Pendulum to some extent, Fusion gets cucked the hardest because not only are they locked out, but they also lose their Fusion spell in the process too. Combine that with current Fusion decks not named Eidolons being glass cannons, and it's no surprise why people say Fusion decks can never be Tier 1.
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>>166222264
Do I have to run some gay metalfoe engine?
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>>166222289
what are you trying to say

obviously barrier stuffs anything because it's dumb as hell, but rat cancer is supreme and does way better when it doesn't get barrier-ed. it's not like every deck is equally useless because of an unsearchable trap
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>Jan 21
>Pedulum domination cards still OCG on DevPro
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>>166222472
It's pretty much 3 of every card + staples.

http://yugiohtopdecks.com/deck/5790
Protip: this deck did not actually get first
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>>166222347
>If you use shit like Kingii and Wolf you lost nothing.
That's why they are topping so much right?
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>>166222289
>not using it when they summon the second Rat
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>>166222434
Pure Zodiac has the most tops of the Zoodiac.dek though.
Until True Draco came, but they're practically immune to Barrier because NS.

>>166222605
I'm saying Barrier is not the reason they're not topping.
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>>166214368
>we have evolved past THE LIGHTNING
>we have evolved past Castel
>we have evolved past Exciton
Exciting times boys.
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okay so why doesn't this work in a chain. i understand that if you use threatening roar after a monster declares an attack it won't stop that monster's attack, and if you respond with VFD's effect to a manju who just normal summoned and is searching, it won't stop the search.
and i could understand miserasaurus not doing anything if it prevented targeting since the targeting already happened, but once it resolves, my dinos should become unaffected by ignition effects, normal spells, etc. during this main phase.
but apparently, that's not right at all.
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>>166223108
That's not a good thing.
Powercreep is the enemy of balance, it means that a bad thing was replaced by something even worse than it.
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>>166221949
Wild Hope and Sassy Rookie in Metalfoes. Stalling Barrier and access to nightmare is pretty gud.

PSZ or Shapesister alongside pic related in Burgers
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>>166222583
I actually have a lot of this. Maybe I can turn some of that regret from actually buying destiny soldiers into joy.
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>>166223350
Because the effect already activated?
Alternatively, scream PERCYYYY
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>>166221209
>four, not five
Tribute Summon exists, you know.
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>>166219971
The future of sync is death, considering the lack of good cards and unwillingness to make a good non-masturbatory sync deck.

>>166220842
Yes, the mechanic that has been babied and hand-held these past couple of years is balanced.
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>print an identical archetype to tellars
>but make the Deneb a tuner
There's your playable synchro deck.
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>>166225776
Then what's the point?
Your game plan is still the same, the only difference is the color of your cards.
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>Red Eyes was my favourite card back in the past
>reading the daily dump of the original manga on /a/ the past couple of weeks
>want to make a pet deck
>can't find Red Eyes cards in stock

Are there any places besides Chaoscards/Magicmadhouse in the UK that stocks cards?
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>>166226191
The major complaint about Synchro is that it promotes masturbatory play through synchro climbing. Tellars are the opposite of masturbatory.
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>>166226256
What specific cards are you looking for?
You could just buy Legendary Decks 2 for the core and then just buy some INOV packs and hope you get lucky.
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>>166226256
https://en.yugiohcardmarket.eu/

You fucking idiot
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Necrovalley ban eventually? This was honestly one of the worst duels I've had in forever. The chump didn't even outplay me, his field spell did.

I hope that errata NEVER comes to TCG.
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>>166226605
You are defeating the purpose. People who like synchro wouldn't like it, and people who don't like would be indifferent.
It's the same of nothing.
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>>166226605
>synchro climbing
>tellars are the opposite
Anon, I...
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>>166226996
Next you'll ask for Dimension Barrier, Vanity, Jowgen and all the Barrier Statues to be banned right?
Get over it, floodgates are a necessary evil in this game.
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>>166227487
this might be the first time i've actually seen someone try to defend vanity's
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>>166222434
>Combine that with current Fusion decks not named Eidolons being glass cannons, and it's no surprise why people say Fusion decks can never be Tier 1.
Thank god someone understood my ranting about fusions.

Eidolons get the best shit because not only their fusions are slightly generic (just aleister + any X attribute monster except divine, when do we get divine eidolon beast) but they are also incredibly strong, take Merkabah who is like Herald-Lite or Raideen who's a book of moon on legs or the fact that having aleister on hand is a +1000 ATK for any of your monsters, Eidolons have an amazing toolbox and considering their main engine is just 9 maindeck cards, they can be put on ANYTHING. But what do non eidolon decks have?
"Hurr durr [FUSION CARD] for my boss monster that needs 3 or more monsters and that can't die by effects and has armades and otks u oh no dimensional barrier negated [FUSION CARD] set 2 pass" because the poor cucked fusion duelist has a deck made for a single playstyle and doesn't have other engines or alternatives to fusion.
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>>166225776
Why not just make an archetype that hyper consistently S8s with 1-2 cards and S10-12 with 2-3 cards in no more than 8 moves?
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>>166227124
>pseudo rankup is the same as synchromastrubation

If Rankups would be more accesable then the rank4 toolbox wouldn't be as powerful anymore
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>>166227487
> Vanity's

Yes it should be fucking banned
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>>166226256
Yeah cardmarket as the other guy said, pity magicmadhouse / chaos cards don't have too many singles available, way less effort than cardmarket with it's trying to minimize costs with postage. I do use magicmadhouse for everything apart from singles though, even a few singles sometimes
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>>166221209
There's 6 methods. Tribute, Xyz, Fusion, Pendulum, Ritual, and Synchro.
Ritual and Tribute are still the worst by a large margin.
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>>166228164
You should be fucking banned.
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>>166228705
I don't think you're serious in defending Vanity's Emptiness. It's a much bigger problem in OTK decks than Demise decks.
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>>166228491
There are 3 summoning methods.
Normal, special and flip.
Tribute and gemini are a subcategory of normal.
Fusion, ritual, synchro, xyz and pendulum are a subcategory of special.
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>>166228908
run more battle traps?
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>>166229336
>battle traps in the year of THE LIGHTNING being shafted away from r4nk toolbox
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>>166229378
>Worrying about 1 with immunity instead of stopping the otk
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>Rat cancer even managed to kill THE LIGHTNING, BABY
Is this the most unhealthy card of all time?
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>>166227965
>deck made for a single playstyle
That's what happens when every main deck card is simply an engine for extra deck plays

Fusion decks can't be anything other than fusion because the monsters can't do any thing else
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>>166229947
As expected of a literal rat.
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>>166229947
>a monster with 0 atk, 0 def, and all it can do is summon more of itself completely took over the metagame
Was Xyz summoning a mistake?
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>>166230407
Xyz is perfectly fine, it's just the overpowered toolbox R4NK has from years of support.
After Zoodiacs, Konami needs to stop with R4NK and start giving the over ranks some love.
Ranks 1,5,6,7,11 and 12 all come to mind.
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>>166226996
>Not using the superior Blue-eyes strat to BTFO these niggers

Your lost
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>>166230407
Yes. It's just far too efficient and every deck can do it.
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>>166231154
>tfw monsters that enable literal 1-card XYZ could be literally any level
>they're made level 4 instead
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>>166231558
Wait for Ancient Stone to get in the grave and hope they don't Strike the Dragon Spirit of White summon to banish Necrovalley.
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>>166231685
Doesn't matter. Zoodiacs aren't even using the Rank 4 staples.
I wonder if Bullhorn->Drancia will ever be relevant to a non-Zoodiac deck though.
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>>166231991
>I wonder if Bullhorn->Drancia will ever be relevant to a non-Zoodiac deck though.
Any Beast-warrior deck now has a free search and pop to use.
Hold on to Lunalights and Fire Fists, they're going to be the last decent Beast-warrior deck we get for at least a few years until this incident blows over.
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So has anyone seen this unbreakable board? As far as I can tell, there is literally nothing that the controller of Ido can do to win that turn short of drawing exodia.
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>>166231991
I won few games with Metal just because I can put 2 level 4 on field and SS Drancia to pop his Imperial Order and ASF.
Pop 3 is just that good, and you can even tech 1-2 Viper so Bull have something to search.
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>>166232534
trap eater on mask of restrict
kaiju the naturia.
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>>166232094
>tfw Bujins no longer even decent
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>>166232534
i activated final countdown 20 turns ago and it took you 20 turns to actually do all that shit so guess what fucker
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>>166232616
can't trap eater the mask, because of Ido
Ido does not let the owner summon monsters
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>destroy big core MK2 with FKI
>doesn't proc boss rush
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>>166232616
You forgot your Shun
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>ygo top decks doesn't list BE or ABC in the top decklists for the last 3/6 months or all time.
Why can't they just get the archetype/series right already?
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>Cause Komoney
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>>166213465
Sauce please?
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>>166231558
Why don't any builds use pic related anyway?
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>>166232751
Ido is that monster on the other side of the field right? Well you have to kill it eventually if you want to win.
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>>166233134
its a shitty raigeki
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>>166233134
This is legal and does the same thing but with no restrictions applied.
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>>166233134
>Monsters
That's why, BEWD doesn't have a problem removing monsters.

Now if only BEWD had their own Dark Magic Attack
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>>166233187
The picture is backwards, you're the person controlling Ido.
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>>166233280
>not searchable
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>>166233306
>That's why, BEWD doesn't have a problem removing monsters.
They pretty much scoop to any monster floodgate since they can't normal summon anything with more than 600 atk.
If Sage's atk and defense were swapped, cards like this wouldn't be an issue.
>Now if only BEWD had their own Dark Magic Attack
Dragon Spirit of White and Twin Twister at 3 isn't enough?
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>>166233487
>running the shitty field spell
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>>166233517
>They don't need archetype S/T removal because generic S/T removal already exists
>But they should use archetype monster removal even though generic monster removal also exists
????????
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>>166232534
During the EP discard my Magician's Navigation or Galaxy Cyclone in hand.
Next turn, use either effect targeting Safe Zone, then equip Ido with 3 Mage Power and 2 Axe of Despair.

You're fucking dead, kiddo, you brought this upon yourself for making it personnel.
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>>166233714
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spirit
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>>166233872
>no psychic blade
ur small time
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>>166233872
how will you banish them with imperial iron wall on the field?
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>>166233714
you're retarded
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>>166231154
rank 9 needs monsters the most
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>>166234024
Stealthily.
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>>166234085
thats not rank11
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>>166233714
That's not the point.
You don't need in archetype S/T mass removal when you have in archetype S/T BANISHING removal and generic removal is widely available.
It's a waste of a support card since it would be redundant.
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>>166234135
Rank 11 needs Level 11 monsters worth a damn to begin with.
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still waiting on Twin Raigekis where you discard 1, banish opponent's field
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>>166234508
Raigeki and Harpie's Feather Duster will both be legal before that happens.
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>>166234508
banish monsters on field, that is
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Your turn /dng/

no, you didn't open Kaiju/Ball ra
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>>166234865
but i opened lava golem and santa claws
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How the fuck did that Barrier Statue deck in OCG land take 1st for Winter Qualifiers when COLD WAVE ON LEGS exists?

Seriously, if you don't run 3 of pic related in your side deck you have downs.
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>>166234865
Book of Moon on Toad and Raigeki.
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>>166234865
>I open my unbeatable combo but you don't open any of your outs
Fuck off
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>>166234865
rageki, dark hole ;^)
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>>166234865
I play Dark Hole then Raigeki.

If your turn 1 Zoo board doesn't include Naturia Beast now, it's shit.
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>>166234980
Denko's useless when Drancia will just pop her on sight.
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>>166234865
I drew all pieces of exodia, sorry mate
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>>166234865
Guess who opened with Book of Moon and Dark Hole.
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>>166234980
>I will always draw into my side
Seriously, Denko is overrated.
She's no more sackier than Kaijus but at least they're searchable off a Dark Hole while she isn't.
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>>166235171
so blow her up before that?
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>>166233517
Main raigeki break or something
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>>166232534
I would wonder how my opponent managed to pull off a 9-card at minimum Magical Christmas Land combo while I just sat on my hands and did nothing.
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>>166235795
Considering the grave, you were playing a Bujin deck, which should be all the answer you need.
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>>166235080
>>166235164
I love how 2 unsearchable cards that are 1 of and 2 of are your go-to out for a fairly standard combo.
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>>166237810
i MAXX "c"'d get fucked
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>>166237810
Honestly they're nice to have but not necessary, I do always side them in though. I used Dark Hole -> Raigeki as an example because it was obvious.

I could just as easily get over the board with any decent True Draco hand, but the extra forced negations/field wipes always helps.
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>>166234225

>they could have made Kangs Rank 11
>they made them level 9's and rank 9's instead
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>>166237936
forehead loli ;)
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>>166238230
No they shouldn't have
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>>166238282
sorry but that deck doesnt have forehead loli ;)
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>>166238230
i sure would like it if my only option with kangz was pain gainer
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>>166238421
>that deck doesnt have forehead loli
So then I'm not playing you to begin with
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>>166237936
Uglier loli ;)
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>>166234221
How does Spirit compare to an archetype HFD?
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What deck do you play in Tag Duels if you want to make your partner kill himself or at the least an enemy?
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>>166238538
Barrier Beat feat Macro
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>>166238282
Whose bright idea was it to make a hand trap that negates any good effect a maindeck card could have anyway?
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>>166238737
Powercreep. How else are people supposed to beat Zodiacs?
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>>166238538
B.E.S.
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>>166238538
things to try and search Wall of Revealing Light, then pay 16000 and lose

alternatively set my hand of Fines and Humble Sentrys so the partner has to lose his hand if he wants to activate anything
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>>166238829
By not sucking ass and beating them with the shit tons of outs that already exist?
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This is bullshit, Pendulum Domination already out and DevPro hasn't enable the cards for TCG
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>>166239247
>DevPro
desu
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So, how was pic related placed in Ra and not Slifer or even just kicked out? Consider that he might be retarded with his dinosaur obsession, never won an on-screen duel in the entire show, plays motherfucking Dinosaurs and insists they're amazing when they're the worst type of monster in the game.
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>>166240324
>the worst type of monster
There's pretty strong competition for that title
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>>166240324
does he play fish

if not, he doesn't play the worst type
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>>166240324
Same reason some dude using roids got into obelisk later
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>>166234865
Try me.
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>>166240632
>what is Divine-Beast
>what is sea serpent
>what is pyro
>>
So many fucking types of monster in this damn game and so many of them are shit or neglected.

What in the hell is Konami pouring love toward anyway as monster types go?
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>>166241484
warriors, machines, fiends, spellcasters, dragons

in that order
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>>166241484
If anything, all the love goes to Beast-Warriors and Dragons and its been like this since forever.
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>>166241003
sea serpents have atlanteans and dsd
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>>166241664
Can we get a list of all the meta Warrior, Machine, Spellcaster, Fiend and Dragon decks from the last 5 years please?
I want to see if all this support is actually paying off.
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>>166241675
It used to be Warriors and Dragons
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>>166241863
ABCs and BEWD were meta within the last year, how do you not remember?
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>>166241869
Nig, are you going to deny the existence of Gladiator Beasts?
Warriors have never been good besides HERO autopilot back when stratos wasn't banned.
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>>166241675
Beast-Warriors existed in Gladiator Beasts and X-Saber, but were never relevant by themselves until Fire Fist.
Dragons were also played in many decks, but not enough to have a deck centered around dragon support until Chaos Dragons.
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>>166241992
Or Hieratics if you count OCG.
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>>166241992
>but were never relevant by themselves until Fire Fist
You mean as in generic Beast-Warrior monsters because i can agree with that, Tenki was the greatest boost they got (even tho it has hard opt and only adds lv 4 or lower BW mosnters) but beast warriors have been consistently in the meta game for quite a long time, mostly on archtypes though (except for lunalights, those suck)
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>>166241980
No
Bull
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>>166241980
Gladiator Beasts was one deck.
Why HERO doesn't count?
Also there was Six Samurai.
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>>166241484
I'd love for more generic type/attribute support or even archetypal support that also supports types/attributes
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>>166242383
>Why HERO doesn't count?
As i said, auto pilot and it took them a while to be good (Stratos release). And Six sams, good point here, these dudes got super nerfed into irrelevance its a shame, gateway to 1 when
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Bujins were meta, right?
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>>166241948
I still can't believe Kaiba got 2 decks to be meta while the best Yugi could do was have Dark Magician and sometimes Bricked Blader top like once a month.
It's a shame to see both of them go by powercreep, it's insane how this game evolved this past year.
More support for Blue-eyes and ABC when?
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>>166241980
> what is six samurai
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Had to buy three rise of the true dragons structures just to get 3 rotdl. Feels a lot worse having to do this because now I have a shit load of cards I don't need and other people don't want.

Buts its cheaper than buying them separately.
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>>166242462
Six sams can't do shit even with gate at 3.
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> want to play gladiator beast again
> can't believe how slow it is compared to the current turn 1 unbreakable board with omni negation
We've come a very long way in this game, haven't we?
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>Warrior decks
HERO
Six Sams
X Sabers
Tellars
Constellars
>Spellcaster decks
Prophecy
Exodia FTK
>Fiend decks
Infernities
Infernoids
D/D
Dark Worlds
>Machine decks
Cyber Dragons
Geargia
ABC
Gadgets
>Dragon decks
Disaster/Hopeless Dragons
Dragon Rulers
Chaos Dragons
Hieratics
Blue-eyes

Did I get it right or am I missing something?
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>>166242692
You can call it that
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>>166242603
They can if they open 2 Gateway.
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Can someone share that pic of Jean michel roget saying
>Can you beat this impenetrable combo?
I am not sure but there might be 2 versions
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>>166242603
A typical turn 1 full power six sam will have shi en and nat beast with 1-2 traps, I'd say it's pretty solid
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>>166242759
>Warrior decks
>Constellars
Nigga.
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>>166242476
Yeah.
What happened to them? I remember everybody crying about the deck but then it just died off.
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>>166242801
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>>166243002
Yeah that's the one I was looking for. Thank you kind anon.
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>>166242801
>>166243002
Ver. 2
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>>166242759
Add Noble Knights, Black Luster Soldier, Buster Blader and Junk Doppel to Warrior
Add Shaddolls, Invoked, Wind witch and Dark Magician to Spellcaster
Add Archfiends to Fiends
Add Speedroids, Crystrons and Ancient Gears to Machines
Add Red-eyes, Amorphages and Dragunities to Dragon
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>>166243385
Forgot pic
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>>166243542
Many thanks. I miss him
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>Noble Knights
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>>166243439
>Most of those
>Even close to meta
Also he forgot Pendulum Magicians and Majespecters for Spellcasters and Qli for Machines off the top of my head
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>>166243439
>Junk Doppel to Warrior
>Invoked to Spellcaster
No
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EqkwT54zIBQ
How right is he?
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>>166243439
We are talking about decks that were rilevant at some point. The only valid ones you named are Shaddolls and Dragunities.
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>>166243985
Just by looking to paleohelmets just makes me think this guy might be slightly biased
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>>166243953
>Pendulum Magicians
My bad, I forgot all about them
>Majespecter
They never really did much outside of Kirin being splashed in everything but ok.
>Qlis
I don't know how I missed this one.
All those floodgates made me forget that they're actually machines.
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>>166242759
Burning Abyss.
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>>166243985
>pride on the line playing on background
not bad
>tfw too intelligent to play any of those top 10 decks
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Will Ariel make Nekroz great again?
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>>166244895
How many times have Nekroz topped an event using Ariel since MACR came out?
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>>166244780
Oh wait it was my ygopro playing the song that made the vid bearable
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>>166244895
Not while her effect isn't usable in the hand, she's not.
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>>166242950
Powercreep, mainly. The fact that their deck doesn't actively try to prevent your opponent from playing is a major reason they died off, as well as the fact that their other most notable quality, the huge amount of Honests they have, was made worthless by things like Lightning.
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>>166245339
And not just the lightning, my friend who runs a whopping junk doppel deck ran armades JUST to fuck with bujins as hard as possible
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>>166245416
Yeah, like I said, like Lightning. I know Armades existed long before he did, but he's far more relevant now.
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>>166242796
>>166242873
Then where are those tops in nipland where it's at 3?
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Would you run three pot of desires?
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>>166246257
japs can't into six samurai then.
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>>166246813
If my deck is a lawnmowing shirayuki infernoid lightsworn inferoid w/gren maju da ezia beatdown, yes
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>>166246837
More like the six sams are outdated and shit
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>>166246813
>Would you run 3 Pot of Greed?
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>>166240957
post dick
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>>166246813
I definitely would run three of it in my exodia deck
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>>166247195
It was stacked. The Toad should make it obvious.
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>>166247371
post dick anyway?
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>>166247496
The deck has 26 vanilla monsters just to complete 40 cards. It's not a playable deck, fucko.
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When do we get bunnygirls archtype or something with bunnygirls
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>>166242521
Felgrand is pretty fun if you have any casual friends who only have structure decks and basic extra deck monsters.
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>>166247967
one of the lunalights is a bunny girl
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>>166246813
two will suffice

upstart goblin to 3 when
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If I were to make a deck out of 3x Pendulum Domination how bad would it be?
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>>166248648
You's still need Genghis, Alexander and a Crystal Wing
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>>166243985
Everything before 5 is stops on, Idc about the rest.

I'm not sure why he put Spyrals there while excluding Subterrors since they're both getting support in RATE. Not making it to a top 8 in regional hardly counts as a relevant actual top.

>>166246813
Yes. You only run 2 unless you can't afford a 3rd.
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>>166248648
you still need 3 swirl slime and 3 necro slime which are $1.50 a piece and sold out in Troll and toad
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>>166248169
Well this is a nice effect at least
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>>166248817
>Needing Crystal Wing
>>166248648
Genghis and Slimes are pretty integral to the deck, so probably not too good
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>>166248903
Why the hell are they so expensive in america? They're still like 2p on cardmarket
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>>166248817
>>166248903
>>166249532

Are these cards available in the newest Mega-Tins? I don't have a credit/debit card so buying cards online is out of the question.
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>>166249885
The megatins versions are sold out. Genghis comes in yugi megatin and alexander comes in kaiba megatin. Slimes comes as commons in all of them. It's somewhat late now.
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>>166249885
Genghisn, slimes and Alexander come in the mega tins, so they are, or were cheap a while ago.

Crystal Wing is a powerful staple synchro, so she is expensive
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>>166249885
genghis is a tin promo and the slimes come in the packs
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>>166249885
>Not having a debit card at the very least
???
Do you not have a bank account? Where do you keep your money?
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>>166250020
>she
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>>166249885
Genghis is a promo in the yugi tin, though multiples of him is ideal. Gust King is available in the Kaiba tin, you only need one of him.
But yes, slimes are available in the mega tin packs, along with a bunch of other D/D cards including Oracle King and Wave Oblivion which are nice to have; most decks run an Oracle King and some / a few run Wave Oblivion. Kali Yuga is also in mega tin packs, and I think all decks run him.
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>>166250141
>He doesnt know
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Are there any examples of cardfus in Yu-Gi-Oh that have whored out to so many neckbeards and nerds they come off as used goods and not hot
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>>166250605
your favorite card
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>>166250605
All meta ones
All anime ones
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>>166250605
Dark Magician is the Pikachu of Yugioh, whored to the extreme.
Vag like a Bottomless Trap Hole.
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>>166250782
>Dark Magician is the Pikachu of Yugioh
you mean unplayable garbage?
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>>166250605
Crystal Wing
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>>166250781
>Genderswapped Yugioh
>All of a sudden Anzu is no longer a token slut but is instead some alpha as fuck dude hanging around tons of hot chicks obsessed with nerdy card games
Rule 63 makes everything better
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>>166250878
>terrible as fuck on its own
>a bunch of support in an attempt to make it relevant because it's the posterchild
>it does nothing
FUCK IT'S TRUE
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>>166251028
BEWD is more iconic than Dark Magician.
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>>166251028
Then who's the Charizard, Blastoise, Venusaur, Mewtwo and Lucario of Yugioh?
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>>166250605
Anything that has high counts of lewds is probably used goods by your logic.

Personally, i was never into neither DMG or Harpies despite being childhood boners for everyone else. But man, once i sinked myself into the cardfu business again, i feel in love with this THICK GODDESS i am surprised she didn't got a massive amount of porn when she appeared in the anime and specially since she came in the TCG uncensored.
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>>166251234
Am I the only Lunalight player that doesn't want to fuck them? I just think their effects are cool
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>>166251234
Fuck off cuck
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Hey there /dng/, just picked up the game again after a long while out, I saw Relinkuriboh and Dystopia the Despondent and they caught my attention.

I run this stupid fun little Mystic Piper deck, have we gotten other good level 1 support lately? In the last like 8 months or so of sets. It's a fun little troll deck and I want more tech for it
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>>166251363
You're a cuck
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>>166251186
>Charizard
Blue-Eyes
>Blastoise
>Venusaur
I dunno some other generic DM genwun shit
>Mewtwo
Exodia
>Lucario
Dante
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>>166251234
she didn't get much of anything because it was played only once and then dealt with by FUCKING CRYSTAL WING in less than 5 minutes. Fuck writers not making the ruris' duel more.
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>>166210761
free my nigga stratos
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>>166250063
I'm a student. I have a large Walmart gift card leftover from Christmas, and found out an OTS is located next to my campus.

>>166250003
>>166250020
>>166250206
>>166250021

Thanks. I will pick up one of each tin along with the structures, and roll the dice on the slimes.
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>>166251402
No u
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>>166251365
Yeah, Lyrical Luscinia's are Level 1 birdgirls that swarm the field like it's going out of fashion.
They also have stronk Xyz monsters.
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>>166251234
I'd say it's because she was only used once and then died to Crystal Wing and Serena's character never recovered from the loss.
That and Lunas are just basic furry art, nothing which really wows anybody and the deck is about as steamlined as Tellars
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>>166251485
>buying 2 tins
my god good luck with that, with that money I would just buy singles but you might get some DDD cards that might interest you there.
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>>166251624
I'm not sure I can buy a gift card with a gift card. Unfortunately I don't have cash or a debit/credit card so I'm locked into what I can buy with a Walmart gift card. If I can get an Amazon gift card I will try that route instead.
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>>166251405
>both Blue-eyes and Charizard both got shat on for being overrated gen wun monsters.
>both got retrained for their anniversaries to be meta

Now if only we got Kaiba in Arc-V to kill Zarc, perfect mirror to Alan kicking Ash's ass in Kalos.
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>>166251353
I love their effects and i also love them in general, mate. This entire archtype has so much potential (which sadly can only be achieved by adding the zoodiac helmet) to do great stuff. And most importantly, they're sexy
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>>166251881
how about trying locals? Even if it sounds dumb
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>>166251353
Nah. I bought the core when zoods were revealed and played with a barebones build for a bit, thought they played kinda cool but never touched it again
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>>166251363
/r/ing the Lunalight pasta.
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>>166251569
> the deck is about as steamlined as Tellars
When you play it with zoodiacs, yeah. Its a hell of a helmet, its basically "summon chick mill chick tiger revives chick r4nk into bull search luna overlay wildbow then overlay bull search another luna overlay drancia" then masturbate your way into Panther Dancer or Leo Dancer if its not your first turn and win. The sad part is that this is the ONLY way they can be viable otherwise its a tier 4 shitfest that only wins against trash decks like BLS or even Blue Eyes if you're THAT lucky
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>>166251353
They're pretty cool, yeah.
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>>166252014
I writed that pasta
tl;dr: Lunalight player so proud of his deck gets cucked after realizing his deck isn't that good and then added rats and he won but his deck was no longer pure, the end.
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>>166251532
>it's a level 1 swarm achtype featuring tiny bird waifus and actual good level 1 xyz monsters

holy fucking shit
this is amazing thank you anon
time to get back into yugioh
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>>166252325
or alternatively, how 2 lunalights in video form
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgyonkrEWik
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>>166250303
That would be Clear Wing's magician form, not Crystal.
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>>166252368
They only come out in Maximum Crisis though, which will only come out in like May or some shit, so you'll be in for a wait.
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>>166252572
>an upgraded form of the dragon isn't the same dragon
Someone ring up Blue-Eyes and Odd-Eyes and tell them the bad news.
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>>166252572
So if Crystal Wing isn't still a woman, he's a tranny?
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>>166252754
kill yourself
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>>166252754
Wouldn't argue, Crystal Wing is ugly as fuck.
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So if I'm understanding this correctly

The new YGO movie takes place after the manga, not anime, and it centers on Kaiba realizing he is homosexual for Atem in a non-funny way and desperately wants to see him?

And he fucking dies in the end.
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>>166252936
I'm not the one turning a dragon into a tranny.
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>>166253013
It's laughable how rivalry = love around here. Literally Tumblr.
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>>166253098
There's a lot of homosexuals in this general.
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>>166253005
The card art is pretty shit, but it looks better in motion.

Lack of legs still weirds me out though.
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I am going to make a great analogy here, by comparing the way how lunalights play compared to other decks.

Imagine this NTR story
There is this nice little duelist, who is a nice person, so is Leo Dancer, the couple enjoy happy times, he hold her hand, she holds his too, its mutual and equal love, both, him and Leo duel good, not exactly great but not so bad. and while both have their losses, what matters is having a nice match, and when they prove they can overcome the worst situations and floodgates put against him and Leo Dancer, they prove the deck isn't worthless. The couple lived and sleeped happily, and then a good friend, Utopia the Lightning, that while he sometimes fights with them, he is a loyal friend and brings them a present, a tretoad statue, representing that fun time when you summoned him and leo to defeat paleotoads without losing any duel in the match.
But it was a dark and rainy day and the lightning stayed home sleeping on a visitors room, and while the duelist and Leo were having sex, it was like every night and they fuck like they duel, only one orgasm (special summon and they end it there.
The Duelist proceeds to go to the bathroom, Leo Dancer while she didn't expected him to end fast, she was actually satisfied but the duelist tought he performed bad when he went to the bathroom, he saw himself in the mirror and said "damn i goofed it, i should've lasted more". But in then, THE LIGHTNING woke up, his eyes were shining red, the rain became a storm, and right as the duelist got out of the toilet, lightning busted out of the door, stared to leo dancer's naked body for a second and then leo, feeling betrayed, dresses up fast and then grabbed her sword, ready for an attack, the lightning breaks her sword and her rips her clothes apart. the duelist tried to stop him but he got punched in the groin and remained shocked but his eyes were open and see how the lightning was ready to rape the duelist's lovely wife, leo dancer (cont.).
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>>166253013
He doesn't die in the end, Kaz made an epilogue where Kaiba and Yugi are working into the next generation of duel monsters.
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>>166253098
it's not a mere rivalry when you decide you cannot live without someone of the same gender and are willing to forfeit your life to see them.

I can't believe Kaiba dies, but maybe it's justice to those three people he ruined to get his Blue-Eyes cards and you know, Death-T and all.
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>>166253147
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cont.
Leo Dancer, defeated and humiliated fell on the bed, the lightning was ready to proceed with the rape, and with his meaty 5000 ATK, he proceeded to penetrate her raw, but then while the lightning just began, lights go out and from the wall, a circle, more like a diagram that looks like the dimensional barrier, brings into play an enemy that both the duelist and leo hated, Masked HERO Dark Law, dark law then proceeded to high five the lightning while he was penetrating leo's vagina for about 2 minutes, which felt like hours, then dark law slides behind leo dancer and proceeds to penetrate her anally, and then dark law says "i see you brought the fun camera" while pointing out the Tretoad statue, whose eyes were actually flashing.

This is not the cuckoldry you guys know, no, the cuckoldry you know is just the man letting her wife getting fucked and the wife enjoyning the bulls thrusting their penises on her holes, but the duelist wasn't having any pleasure, and neither was leo dancer, from which in every thrust she recieved, she was shouting for help, crying, tears fall down her eyes and she tries to stretch her hand to the duelist, so she could get an ATK boost, but the duelist only had bricks on his hands, he couldn't help her, all he could do is stare the malicious act, dark law and the lightning, violating every single inch of leo, and even dark law brought his fun toy, a shark shaped shaver, and proceeded to cut down leo dancer's radiant mane, but the duelist had a gun on his right hand, however, he knew Dark law and Lightning were much stronger than a bullet, he just tried to shoot himself to end the pain but he misses and the bullet rebounds until it hits a rathole, from which 3 little rats and a viper came out, the duelist then proceeded to overlay the rats and he summoned zoodiacs, the duelist broke one promise he did to leo dancer, that he will stay pure and loyal to the lunalights. But it was too late (cont)
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>>166252728
Crystal is Rin's card. Yugo has Clear Wing.
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>>166253147
I feel like they were trying to make it look like a 'Shooting Star Dragon' version of Clear Wing since Ono will not stop jerking off 5Ds until his dick falls off, with those angular wings and head design. Its snout is just terrible though, it looks like they just slapped some random shapes there and called it done.
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the AI is proud
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>>166253013
>the same shapes used on the Mind Crush trap card
rly mks u tnk
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>>166253548
post dick
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>>166253548
>draws a dinasaur
>dragon
why is this allowed?
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>>166253548
>Using the Field Spell
For what purpose?
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>>166253147
It looks shit in motion too.

>>166253492
Right.

>>166253526
If that's the case, they missed what made SS look decent.
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cont.

Because by the time the duelist summoned the zoodiacs, dark law and lightning were done with leo dancer and they just grinned when they were about to be executed. and the toadcamera was streaming all along when bullhorn found it, meaning that this horrible act was up on the internet, the duelist and leo just lost their souls, their happiness, their love on a single night, in a single night. This is how playing lunalights feels like, you just have false hopes you will do good, but you just fall short. There is no more love anymore
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>>166253913
are you serious?
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>>166230407
Kinda yeah.
Way too strong for how Generic it is.
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>>166216898
>Tag Force 6 will never have a story translation
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>>166253548
Yeah Neo Dinos are amazing.
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Yugibaboons, give me a good Herald Beast decklist.
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>>166216898
God i miss Tag-force.
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>>166254565
:^)
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>>166254259
It locks out your opponent from targeting things, but ony while they keep that token, and weakens your goodstuff too, that's it
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>>166253297
What is this epilogue called?
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>>166254752
No summoner monk? Heraldic Band sound interesting.
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>>166255078
It's old as heck (if 3 Maxx "C" wasn't obvious enough) but fun to play. /dng/ actually gave me the idea way back when. Monk might be nice. Could use a good updating, anyway.
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>>166254903
It was just a tweet.

Since graduation four years have passed, Yugi as expected wins at the world game contest, and begins walking the achieved dream path of a game creator. Yugi’s game is given a high valuation, so what ends up happening is Kaiba Corporation embarking on joint development.
Yugi’s invented sphere-faceted-model fighting game = Spherium II prototype model is complete, so right now Kaiba and Yugi commence the fight on the stage of space!
From now on Yugi Muto becomes the new Yu-Gi-Oh! = GAME KING has departed for his goal~! END
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New WAGA TAMASHI cards when?
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Should I run solemn strike,warning or both?
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>>166253548
oops

i did it again
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>>166255480
Red Nova Dragon - Burning Soul soon
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>>166255371
Mokuba is such a fucking twink holy shit
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>>166255958
>set True Draco trap
>tribute it for Master Peace
(Mostly) done.
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>>166255371
I fucking HATE how Kaiba has mellowed out even if his antics can still be autistic.

Remember Kazuki's ORIGINAL vision of Seto Kaiba? The psychopathic nerd that did all kinds of crazy shit like torture his own brother and hire a bunch of killers to sic on teenagers BECAUSE HE LOST IN A GAME.

That was a good character.
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What's the best deck in WCT2006? Monarchs?
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>>166256837
I don't think you know what a good character is.
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>>166255954
You take out quaking and hole and add in another alternative. Main warning and either main 2 copies of D barrier or side it. 40 cards is enough for brick eyes
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>>166256837
Kaiba's transition at least is justifiable.
Atem is the one that had no reason to become so tamed.
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>>166257260
Early YGO was fucking awesome, it's a shame people only remember it for the card game.

Atem inflicting brutal penalty games on every scumbag of the week was fun.
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If full powered timelords were released, with no nerfs to their effects what tier would they be in.
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>>166257562
That was shit. Duel Monsters is the only good thing in the universe. Without it it's a boring TV show that doesn't need to exist.
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>>166257759
below rat tier
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>>166257759
Blazar Tier.
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>>166257759
what effect
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>>166257759
Sephylon turbo feat Lawnmowing.

Drop Lawnmowing, summon sephylon, otk with a 24k atk sephylon + 4 4k beaters.

So below rat tier
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>>166257826
Right.

>>166257214
What is it to you then?
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>>166258394
Go watch Death Note if you want to watch gay men try to kill each other while NOT playing card games.
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>>166255958
>>166253548

slightly different
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>>166258538
Post dick
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> A very fragile jar that contains something ancient and dangerous
> something ancient and dangerous

WHAT IS IT
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>>166258538
Is this supposed to be impressive?
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>>166258538
>mfw every single field you've posted
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>>166258510
What are you even on about?
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>>166258663
>the jar is the actual monster, not that thing inside

really makes you think
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>>166258663
F.G.D. apparently
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>>166258974
who?
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>>166258663
Zushin
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>>166258804
Season 0 is shit.
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>>166258730
What deck can use this? Effectively?
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>>166259271
Anything that doesn't rely on its normal summon to make plays. Even some of them that do, so long as you can go a turn without it.
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>>166259271
Any deck since its a siding option
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>>166259258
Just like everything else.
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>>166259271
No good decks, since those just use kaijus.
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>>166258730
Try that against my pendulums, bro.
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Whats a card you wish had its own archetype?
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>>166258730
and yet no one in OCG sides it

they didn't even side it during the EmEm era
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>>166259915
Celtic Guardian.
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>>166260041
This

I wouldn't mind an elf archetype with him and Mystical Elf
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>>166260041
it already has, you oblivious fuck
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>>166260041
It does, it's just very shit
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>>166260267
3 cards is hardly an archetype
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Someone decided Gate Guardian needed support
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>>166260329
>i-it doesn't count

It's by definition an archetype, doesn't matter if it has only 2 cards, you fucking idiot.
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>>166260536
i think that gate guardian needs a retrain
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>>166260536
Not a bad way of doing it as far as cac support goes. Except she's technically committing suicide in order to summon the worst monster in the game.
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>>166260557
Shut up, retard
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>>166260690
these three guys goes with the priestess above
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>>166260692
Not even to summon
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>>166260536
>>166260690
>>166260818

I mean, I guess it works?
>Mini jins have the same stats as the big ones -1000
Nice.
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>>166260818
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>Cac shit hour
nice dead game
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>At locals
>Friend asks me to come next to him for a second
>When I do, immediately tells the literally autsitic guy who loves Academia archetypes that I want to know about predator plants
>Friend walks away and I'm stuck in a lecture about Fly hell and predator counters as a whole

How was locals /dng/?
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I started playing duel links for muh nostalgia and now I'm hooked.

A few questions for ygopro

1.) I stopped playing yugioh 10 years ago, is it worth it catching up on all the new cards?
2.) Does ygopro have otk or ftk?
3.) Do the card effects work automatically or is there some sort of "honor system" ?
4.) is there any grind?
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You know, if we ever get virtual reality Yu-Gi-Oh maybe we'll get to do shit like the whole labyrinth wall thing that Yugi and Joey had to do
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>>166261405
1. If you want to actually play outside of 'april 2005 format only plz' games, yes. Watching the first 10-20 episodes of Yu-Gi-Oh Arc-V is a good way to get (re)introduced to all of the summoning types.
2. Yes, you will run into people who do OTKs and FTKs.
3. Automatically.
4. No. You have all cards unlocked from the start. It's a dueling simulator.
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>>166260041
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Is this game not shit yet?

I kept my petdeck but sold off a binder since I haven't played in months. Got a good amount of cash for it.
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>>166261575
thanks family, downloading
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Why is there a TCG and an OCG banlist?

Do cards magically get more/less powerful as they cross the Pacific? Is there really a Heart of the Cards?
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When are we ever going to get this pack?
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>>166262572
Two different management teams.
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>>166262572
Difference in set of cards currently available created by difference in release schedule. Or so they say.

There's also shit like different and contradictory ruling between TCG and OCG, so it's just a difference in management team, really.
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>>166262572
Because #fuckonami
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>>166262881
>Difference in set of cards currently available created by difference in release schedule. Or so they say.
I might buy this for some cards, and other reasons for banning/unbanning certain archetypes

But cards like Monster Reborn? Literally the definition of staple, and reprinted at least 100 times.
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>>166261246
i had to explain the concept of irreparable gamestate to an autist for 10 minutes and fucking went x-1 again
but i pulled an ulti raigeki so its all good
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>>166263648
>staple
>when the vast majority of jap decks don't even use it
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>>166263741
>Not already having a 1st ed LOB raigeki that calls itself a magic card.
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>>166263789
I had to get a LCJW for my Secret Raretism.
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>>166263845
Well, secret is one of the best rarities, so you're forgiven.
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>>166261649
>tfw your petdeck gets surprise support
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>>166263954
>jewrat will have to print this while HFD is banned in TCG cuckland
>or will just not import it at all
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What's the best way to summon Meliae? Is it hootcake > another level 3 madolche?
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>>166263789
cards before like 2012 or so having the different image size triggers me
for years ive been using the battle pack starfoil, thank god i can finally get rid of that shit
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>>166264009
With all the quick S/T destruction out there right now, I'm surprised it still is banned. It's not even abusable like Heavy Storm.
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I'm waiting for strike to get put to 1 so I can use the one I pulled without feeling like I'm a failure of a card gamer.
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>>166264413
tfw I've wanted to get a Strike or two but I'm so sure it'll get hit I decided I'd wait for the next banlist. tfw I've been waiting 3 months.
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>>166264563
I'd say get 1, but even shit like Vanity's Emptiness tanked 90% when it got knocked down to 1.
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>>166264661
It's because supply remained the same while demand went down by 66%
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>>166264563
ive waited for a year and picked up a playset last week along with a shitload of other stunshit cards
i'm almost certain its going to get hit because of that
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>>166262721
duelist saga will have the new cards from the two waves of the anniversary packs

the pack also has 60 cards that are reprints. i hope we get an invoker, trishula, and emeral reprint.
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>>166264009
Feather Storm is being printed in Duelist Saga, March 30th.

The first/second effect is still decent for Harpie decks, but hopefully it provokes TCG to unban HFD.
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>>166264694
That's my point. Same thing will happen with Solemn Strike, Pot of Desires, etc.
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>>166264805
>he doesn't have his cherished HA Trishula from 2011
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>>166264805
we had emeral last year but they shortprinted it
trish and invoker are pretty likely though
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>>166265159
i just want an ultra trishula because there was one in the anime
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>>166265384
Trish was in Highspeed Riders recently too.
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>>166264054
Come on, I just want to try aromeme builds
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can you solemn strike exodia or is this a new meme?
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>>166266068
yes you can
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>>166266132
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>>166213465
You're ignoring this is the nature of card games.
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>>166265792
Goyo Defender.
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new Blackwing quick-play spells
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>>166266610
>nature of card games without rotating formats
ftfy
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>>166267630
And rotating formats cannot exist in YGO unless they literally just threw aside every card they've made and just copy Magic and it's lack of real, multi-set archetypes.
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>>166267724
They'd have to do it backwards from Magic with how much power-creep there is.

There'd have to be "Standard" and a "Everything-But-Standard" format. Unlike Magic, where legacy cards are good, legacy cards are generally shit in yuggermons.
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>zarc's face in the newest arc-v episode
nani
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>>166267724
>lack of real, multi-set archetypes.
>what are elves, merfolk, goblins, affinity, stax, burn, urza tron, storm etc
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>https://ygorganization.com/youjustmadethelist/
What the FUCK is this bullshit
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>>166268126
Dong Thousand
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BUY BLACKWINGS
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>>166267962

>No chou yuugou

Trash list desu.


>>166268220
Zarc did nothing wrong.
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>>166267937
>Sets that don't get used.
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>>166268339
nigga i know that's just the anime card
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>>166268271
????
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>>166267962
>ASF ban
nigga what, this has been my secret deck tech for years now. it affects both players, pendulumfaggots need to git gud.
Nobody cried about ASF during Qli and Zefra season.
If Komoney hits this I am selling out.
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>>166268126
>Contract with Don Thousand
>You can only activate 1 "Contract with Don Thousand" once per turn.
>(1) When this card is activated, each player loses 1000 LP, then each player draws 1 card.
>(2) Each player reveals all cards drawn while this card is in a Spell&Trap Zone and drawn by this card's (1) effect.
>(3) A player who reveals a Spell card in their hand by this effect cannot Normal Summon.
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>>166268504
wtf is this fucking trash
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>>166268425
You trolling
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>>166268126
>>166268504
Why is that out of 10 new cards in the 20AP 2nd Wave, only 2 of them are monsters? It's mostly mediocre spells and traps nobody wanted.
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>>166268504
Nice, it's the card that Shark got around by drawing the Seventh One.
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>>166268556
ASF is a 14 year old card that has been *FINE* for that long. Banning it now because new-age pendulumfags cry about their OP summoning mechanics is retarded.., and oh fuck retardation is rife at komoney
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>>166268559
>now he gets the feathery look of a chicken
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>>166268559
Will they ever release these things?
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>>166268880
in no less than 2 years in some collectors pack
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>>166268926
We get a Collector's Pack this year.
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>>166264054
super hippo carnival + a level 3 earth
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r8
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>>166268559
Supreme King Servant Dragon - Odd-Eyes
ATK 2500 DEF 2000
Scale 4 Level 7 DARK Dragon-type Effect Pendulum Monster
Pendulum Effect:
You can Tribute 1 "Supreme King" monster; add this card to your Extra Deck, face-up.

Monster Effect:
If a Pendulum Monster(s) is Pendulum Sumoned to your opponent's field while you control "Supreme King Dragon Zarc", you can Special Summon this card (from your hand, Deck, or Extra Deck) by Tributing 2 "Supreme King Servant Dragon" monsters you control. Monsters your opponent controls cannot target face-up Pendulum Monsters for attacks, except this one. Once per turn, the first time a Pendulum Card you control would be destroyed by battle or card effect, it is not destroyed. Any battle damage your opponent takes from attacks involving Pendulum Monsters you control is doubled. During either player's turn: You can add this card to your Extra Deck face-up; Special Summon 2 "Supreme King Servant Dragon" Pendulum Monsters from your Extra Deck, except this card, and if you do, the ATK of all face-up monsters your opponent currently controls become 0.
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>>166269453
Meme/10
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>>166269453
>REEE

good meme
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>>166268126
TRANSLATE IT WEEBS
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>>166269664
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>>166268761
Literally fuck off
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Are Crystron's fun?
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>>166268761
>Pendulum
>OP
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>>166269951
literally kill yourself if you're getting outskilled by a 14 year old card :^)
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>>166270423
>implying flipping ASF takes skill
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>>166270423
Hai scrub :)
I'm 20 years old and I won worlds :)
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>>166268504
>don thousand is now d/d/d support
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>>166241729
And Bahamut Shark.
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>>166270840
Blue Eyes Alt Right Dragon is based in its support and anyone thinking otherwise is delusional.

ASF is a stand-alone card and doesn't win games based on a suit of support cards.
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Hey /dng/, I've been playing some retro shit.

Quick question, in DDS how the fuck are you supposed to get the passwords to unlock the rest of the final stage duellists? Are they just there for the people who buy guides?
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>>166270057
Pretty fun. Very skillful, requires quite a bit of forethought, not much synchro masturbation to speak of due to the way they play. I'd highly recommend them as a petdeck desu

Just be wary of those all-tuner hands, and remember Sulphafnir and Entry are your playmakers.
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>>166271830
>ASF doesn't win games
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>>166271830

>ASF is a stand-alone card and doesn't win games based on a suit of support cards.

You're right. It is perfectly able to win a game on its own.
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How do you summon Crystal Wing in Dinosuars without Tzolkin?
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>>166272117
Remember?
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>>166272286
Why would you? Dolka is better.
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>>166272117
>>166272213
Yeah, if you're trash, and make trash decks.
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>>166272873
Yeah it's not like almost every deck uses spells, right?
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>>166272873
wow XD just wow this post man thiiiiis post haha lol wow this post just makes me XD i mean holy cow XD i am LITERALLY XDing here haha nice post
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just don't play yugioh if you don't want to lose guys
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>>166272976
>>166273064
Just pop it with Drancia
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>>166272976
>summon Zod into Drancia
>pop ASF
Wow so hard.
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>>166273378
Solemn Strike :)
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>>166272976
Maybe you should make some of those spells counter-traps.
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>>166273456
>activate counter counter
gg
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>>166273456
>set True Draco Cont. Spell
>NS True Draco
Wow so hard.
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>>166273643
>>166273660
Solemn Judgment :)
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>>166273643
I wish they printed Counter's High.
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>>166273738
>negate True Draco NS
>Cont. Spell pop effect still get through
Wow so hard.
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>>166273738
chain second counter counter
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>>166273780
Lost World :)
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>>166273891
>still pop ASF with no problem
Wow so hard.
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i chain tachyon transmigration to all your counter traps
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>Chain Close
>Counter Trap Card
>Activate only when a card is destroyed by battle or by a card effect, and sent from the field to the Graveyard. Your opponent cannot activate any Spell/Trap Cards, until the End Phase. Spell/Trap Cards and Effect Monster's effects cannot be activated in response to this card's activation.
What happens if this gets printed?
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>>166274079
>Spell/Trap Cards and Effect Monster's effects cannot be activated in response to this card's activation.
Literally game breaking.
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>>166274079
>Drancia pop itself
>one-side Cold Wave
>Metal pop something
>one-side Cold Wave
>TD pop something on their or use Apocalypse
>one-side Cold Wave
Instant 3-of.
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Why aren't the coolest cards ever printed?
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>>166274079
Run 3 in literally every deck.
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>>166274229
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>>166274229
Does he have to pick the cards up again after the duel is over?
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>>166274329
He probably just buys more.
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Quick question to Duel Links players from countries its been out in longer:

Is there a cap to the number of skills per character, or did I get bugged? Because that useless +2500 LP skill just dropped and swaped for my Power of Dark, which is absolute bullshit.
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>>166274281
Does the card text require you to throw your cards in the air when discarding?
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>>166268504
So Upstart + Wavering for Metalfoes? Nice.
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>You can now run up to 4 of a card in a deck, same as the Pokemon trash card game
What happens?
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>>166274480
>Wavering for Metalfoes
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>>166274616
rat kills the meta
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>>166274761
No change then?
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Is it me, but whenever Konami accidnetly prints a super strong card for R4 Spam, the game breaks?
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>>166275430
No this time it was because they had the audacity to introduce 1-card Xyz. If Zoodiacs weren't able to summon themselves using their own Xyz monsters, there probably wouldn't be any issue. It's the abuse of the Xyz-change mechanic that gives them such retarded versatility.
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>>166275530
Well from Playtesting, JUST Using rat to go into a second body for XYZ Change is so much worse than going into a R4 like Rafflesea.
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ban Emeral desu.
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>decide to stop playing competitively for a while
>pick up my performapal petdeck and hop into tags
>it's a siegfried + vanity's emptiness episode
So this is your answer, Percy? Very well.
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>>166275720
why though.
Out of all the Broken as shit R4's you choose a perfectly balanced one to ban?
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>>166275759
>Pot of Avarice on demand
>perfectly balanced
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>>166276018
Pot avarice but only targets 3 and only draws 1 is very, very balanced compared to the Other common R4NK cards senpai.
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>>166276139
>very, very balanced compared to the Other common R4NK cards senpai
Like what? Emeral and Gagaga Samurai are the only generic rank 4s Zoodiacs even run.
You could make a case for Lightning but Lightning is just a universal answer, not an enabler.
Nothing else in generic Rank 4's arsenal compares.
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>>166276272
Why not, y'know, hit Rat?
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>>166276272
Why DO they use Gagaga Samurai?
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>>166276376
3600 damage.
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>>166276272
Rafflesea comes to mind.
If you're going to ban Emeral you might as well ban every Kaijuu, Ban Viper and Molerat, Ban Crystal wing, ban Norden, Ban ABC, Ban every shaddoll fusion other than Wendigo, and put Skill drain at 3.
Emeral is not a remotely problomatic card, it's an okay card to replenish your resources that fits in zoodiacs due to how they burn through their Extra.
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>>166276380
That's it?
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>>166276570
Yes, the deck doesn't have a lot of damage otherwise.
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Is guess it would be better with Naturia Beast and it's also easier to make than Crystal Wing
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>>166276376
Samurai+Drancia after Slumber is an OTK.
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>>166276412
Rafflesia isn't even good, there's a reason why nobody runs it anymore.
If anything, it's the semi-generic archetypal rank 4s that are too good.
The likes of the Bujin R4s,
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>>166276675
What Tuner do you use to make Beast?
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>>166276675
What Earth tuner are you using? Bulb?
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>>166276868
>>166276897

Aeolo
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>>166276862
>shuffling 3 cards from your grave into the deck then drawing 1 card is worth banning
>But a quick pop 2 cards and bottomlessing Rats isn't
Rafflesia isn't that good, but i'd say it's much worse than Emeral. Emeral is literally just """""""""""problematic""""""""""" because it fits well within Zoodiacs, which is a tier 0 deck. but on its own it's far, far, FAR from being remotely broken in any sense of the word.
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>>166276927
Which is a Fire Tuner.
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>>166277094
which you can change with VFD
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>>166277437
I see, that sounds extremely situational. You would've needed to make VFD already, presumably with Longdong meaning you've used Aeolo, change types with VFD, then revive Aeolo with Oviraptor, and only then make Beast. I'd rather make a second Laggia if I wanted more Spell hate to be honest.
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some of what you can do without field
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Anyone has some salt to spare? I'm tired of Paleos.
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>>166278137
How do you go into Clear Wing? Level 3 Jurrac tuner?
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>>166278339
yep
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>>166278137
Post your list pls
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>>166274641
Inflict damage; Wavering burnt for 500, remember?
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>>166278473
Fine, I didn't want to post it because it's obviously a work in progress.
>45 cards
>13 cards extra deck
I still can't decide on several things, so this is what you get for now.
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What deck do you play if you want to live life on the edge and feel truly alive like Shun?
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>>166279028
>THREE Agnimazud
Sweet.

>Lost World
Why?
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>>166279417
you need it for combos with Ovirarptor and Fairy Dragon
most of the field i posted couldn't have been done without it
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>>166279061
RR of course.
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>>166279647
>that napalm dragonius burn finish
What a hero. Guess I'm picking them back up. Is RR - Readiness one of the most abnormally good trap cards of our time or what?
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What is with people thinking ABCs aren't good anymore thanks to D/Ds?
It's like they forgot that this deck was only slightly above Blue-eyes in the OCG August format and even at full power, was between meta and rogue during the weekly tops.
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>opening hand has rescue rabbit
>but also two kabazauls and two sabersaurus
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>>166279807
I don't understand what you're trying to say.
unlimit when?
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>>166279935
Just enjoy the free win, man.
What's the current TCG meta, anyway? It seems like Frog and Hero is way more popular here than in OCG.
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>>166280175
HFD and Super Poly are b& and Norden is legal.
I think the reason Darklords aren't topping as much as they did in the OCG is because Raigeki is legal here which busts Vanity's Fiend and Krystia and Stormforth is limited so they can brick easier and have less outs to big boards.
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>>166280175
I miss Metalfriends and ABCs. Even Dragon Buster. I really do. It feels like I've been stuck inside a bad dream since then.
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>>166212154
i have it in consideration next time anon
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>>166280000
Quads confirm it.
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>>166268126
I knew this would be all it was, but I'm still very very disappointed.
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>>166280509
Metalfoes are still perfectly alive, it's just that ABC died out.
That said, we could really do with another April OCG format.
The OCG must have been having the time of their lives playing Blue-eyes, Burning Abyss, Metalfoes, D/D, Monarchs and the corpse of Dracopals.
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>>166255371
this is correct that is written in kazuki twitter?
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4head loli was a mistake.
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How good are Dinos?
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Shooting Star Dragon Retrain?
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> Pot of Desires
> Banish all important shit
> Draw other two Pot of Desires

Has this happened to you before
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>>166279935
OCG players have a different playstyle, and are mostly worse than TCG players.
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>>166276862
What's so bad abot the Bujin R4s?
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>>166281926
Not often, because in decks that don't really need three I usually only play 2 pot of desires.
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>>166281986
Say the one siding in ASF against BE on top of using CDI in BE.
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>>166281986
Is this true? What facts are there to support it?
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>>166281986
And yet OCG has a guy who has won Worlds twice and America doesn't have a single Worlds Winner.
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>>166282531
>worlds
>mattering
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>>166282649
It's apple and orange then.
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>>166282493
Well, Barrier Beat topped GF in a huge event.

What does that tell you? Deck never topped in TCG and never will because TCG players are that much better.
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>>166282739
>Deck never topped in TCG and never will because TCG players are that much better.
So the Barrier Beat deck which won a CCG didn't happen?
Ok then.
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>>166282739
Pure Abyss Actor topped.
That says something about TCG.
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>>166282739
It tells me nothing other than anti-meta is anti-meta.
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>>166282739
Whatever helps you sleep at night, anon.
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>>166282435
Blue-Eyes usually did rely on their spell cards to draw a lot. Even though people can play around it, they usually need to hard draw Sage and another effect monster that can be normal summoned to do that, or Twin Twisters, before the 9-star generic synchro was released.

As for CDI, it's because A: people just like the card, even though it's inconsistent, and B: I don't like it personally.
>>166282493
Well, mainly the OCG banlist is different from the TCG one, and the fact that there are a lot more locals over there, and they're a lot smaller than the TCG ones. My locals just this saturday pulled in 50 players; outside of the 3v3 tournaments, you'd find it hard to get 30 in Japan.

As for the thing about TCG players being better... well, the thing is in Worlds, most of the Worlds tournaments may have been won by OCG players, that's true, but the main reason that that even happens is because the OCG is more used to restrictive banlists, from what I know.
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>>166282805
Barrier Beat is not anti-meta in that it does not beat meta decks and never should.

I don't know what the fuck OCG players side to have a deck like that rampage across the bracket.

You have to admit, TCG players always think carefully of what to put in their side decks to deal with everything by comparison. Like they anticipate every deck whether it's meta or off-radar.
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>>166282796
I'm pretty sure that shit deck is not legit; literally anyone can go onto Yugiohtopdecks and submit their decklist now. Especially considering it's marked as first.
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>>166283034
>You have to admit, TCG players always think carefully of what to put in their side decks to deal with everything by comparison. Like they anticipate every deck whether it's meta or off-radar.
And that didn't stop things like Harpies, Raidraptors, Dark Magician or even the Hope Zexal lock from winning an entire Regional.
Next case.
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>>166282050
Singlehandedly broke ABC as well as Zodiac Noids.
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>>166282987
I'm referencing that finalist in last world siding in ASF in BE mirror, open it, and lost in less than 5 minutes.

>OCG is more used to restrictive banlists
What are you saying? There's more shit in TCG banlist than in OCG banlist.
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>>166283193
Because those are actually decent decks and the players using them are very good or smart? I mean, if someone's taking a non-meta or questionable deck to tournaments in general, I'm sure the player really thought things over.
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>>166283226
>I'm referencing that finalist in last world siding in ASF in BE mirror, open it, and lost in less than 5 minutes.
I don't get what was he even thinking, even Shunsuke knew to side in Cycle Readers in the mirror.
This is his decklist and I feel like he's the only one who actually tried to build on consistency above all else
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>>166283302
>decent decks and the players using them are very good or smart
>if someone's taking a non-meta or questionable deck to tournaments in general, I'm sure the player really thought things over.
This is the case for OCG B-Beat.
Case closed.
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>>166283302
>Unlikely deck tops TCG
>Wow, TCG players must be really good to win with such deck
>Unlikely deck tops OCG
>Wow, OCG players must be really bad to allow such deck win
Now this is just shitposting.
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>>166283456
Inb4 d-doesnt count
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>>166283395
That's actually pretty cookie cutter BE deck though.
The only difference is how he use 2 Master and Xyz Universe in side, I think, otherwise, it's just the standard topping BE list.
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>>166283645
but see the difference is this.

All those decks the other guy listed are functioning decks that do big combos and have a lot of dexterity mixed with unpredictability.

Barrier Beat is a troll deck, and a meme at best. It only does one thing, which is set trap cards and summon floodgate monster. There are so many outs to this it's hard to believe no one in OCG could stand up to it with HFD legal.
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>OCG has a banlist every three months
>TCG drops the banlist whenever they feel like

>OCG mostly love taps decks unless they're some crazy FTK/loop degeneracy so they're left perfectly playable see Monarchs, D/D
>TCG makes decks totally useless see Nekroz and Qlis and also hits things out of some unreasonable decisions see Upstart and Kaiser Colosseum

So which format is better again?
>>166283739
>The only difference is how he use 2 Master and Xyz Universe in side, I think, otherwise, it's just the standard topping BE list.
Road of the King did an article on the guy, Master is just his sekrit tech and Universe was actually a totally legit side back in the EmEM format and when Burning Abyss was meta in order to combat and punish the R4NK/R3NK spam.
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>>166283876
>All those decks the other guy listed are functioning decks that do big combos and have a lot of dexterity mixed with unpredictability.
Just like Dark Synchro? A deck that was never relevant in TCG.
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>>166283876
>functioning decks that do big combos
>have a lot of dexterity mixed with unpredictability
>Hope Zexal is just Zexal turbo, nothing more
>RR is just Force Strix spam
>DM is just set 4 pass with different flavor of whatever that Cont. Spell called
I can't believe I'm saying this, but B-Beat actually have better gameplan than those decks.
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>>166284008
just give it time, YGO is a diverse CCG when it comes to decks whether a stupid meta is imposed or not. That's what's good about it.

Someone'll do something with that deck eventually.
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>>166283220
That's far and away more due to ABC and Zoods than the Bujins.
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>>166279935
abc is just a r4 braindead meme desu
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>>166281019
>April OCG format.
>The OCG must have been having the time of their lives playing Blue-eyes, Burning Abyss, Metalfoes, D/D, Monarchs and the corpse of Dracopals
What?
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>>166285332
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>>166285670
I-it's so beautiful... not a furry in sight...
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>>166285670
>not a Rat or Drancia in sight
Those were better times.
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>>166285670
Oh yeah, I remember now.
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>>166285904
>>166286203
>>166286237
We have to go back.
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>>166286265
We really have to go back.
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>>166286265
>>166286545
>diversity is inherently good
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>>166286545
>mfw true dracos are going to be crazy expensive in the TCG
fugg
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>>166286646
Yes. A one-track mind is boring.
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>>166286545
And worst part is that the True Draco deck is just another face of Rat cancer.
Zoodiacs are still tier 0.
Thankfully, just 2 more months until March V-JUMP with the new banlist which will hopefully kill the rat and also take out the cancer of Lawnmowing, Dimensional Barrier and Strike being a thing.
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>>166286646
Yes.
That shit about can't siding effectively is just what the shitter that can't actually siding believes.
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>>166286707
The Dracos and their S/T are all commons though. It's Lithosazim and Mariamune that will be big bucks.
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>>166286792
Well fuck them. I'll be running my Dracos as pure as can be.
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>>166286812
>He thinks jewart won't bump them all
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>>166286812
>It's Lithosazim and Mariamune that will be big bucks
Nobody runs those though.
You only run Diagram, 1 of each spell, 1 of the revival trap, and Master Peace
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>>166286723
Why are you bothering with meta then?

>>166286793
What?
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>>166287054
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>166287054
Anon, have you tried at least looking at the topping deck?
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>>166287134
https://ocg.xpg.jp/deck/deck.fcgi?ListNo=276883
What?
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>>166287054
joke is on us

he is only pretending to be retarded
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>>166286792
>complaining about rat, lawnmowing, db, and strike
One hell of a shitter we got here.
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>>166287318
https://ocg.xpg.jp/deck/deck.fcgi?ListNo=276879
Or here's one with more true dracos
Still nobody runs any of the kings anymore
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>>166287414
Yeah, and those people are idiots. Disregard whatever the filthy nips top with, turboing Master Peace and VFD is the way to go.
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>>166287414
https://ocg.xpg.jp/deck/deck.fcgi?ListNo=276878
https://ocg.xpg.jp/deck/deck.fcgi?ListNo=276876

From a tournament literally today

>>166287549
Yeah, a literal nobody like you obviously matters more than they do.

VFD is shit and so are True Kings.
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>>166287624
>Baaaa, baaaaa
That's all I'm hearing from you, you fucking sheep.
Carry on my netdecking son.
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Is it retard hour again?
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>>166287054
>no one runs the searcher or the targeted ED banisher
>only 1 of each of your recycling/draw power cards
>only 1 trap
The traps maybe but they are still good for popping monsters and can still be tributed by true dracos while facedown. Plus you want to have spares if you have to banish them from the grave.
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So in terms of biggest CCG in the world, is this accurate or up to date?

Magic > Pokemon > Hearthstone > > YGO > Vanguard
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>>166287791
You're here.
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>>166287791
Clearly, given how many people are defending True Kings.
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>>166287872
Hail Satan you fucking pleb
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>>166287872
Once Zodiacs die something will fill their void in Draco decks, and it will be Kings.
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>>166287872
Why are True King players so toxic?
They're just so defensive of their deck and how VFD is so powerful and even say it's the new Dragon Rulers.
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>>166287318
>>166287414
>>166287624
https://ocg.xpg.jp/deck/deck_search.fcgi?CardDeck=0&Card=MACR-JP024&Flt=1
https://ocg.xpg.jp/deck/deck_search.fcgi?CardDeck=0&Card=MACR-JP026&Flt=1
https://ocg.xpg.jp/deck/deck_search.fcgi?CardDeck=0&Card=RATE-JP019&Flt=1
Nobody use Litho anymore, but there's still few that use Maria.

Zod variant use minimal True Draco, but the True Draco variant use far more than what you described.
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>>166287989
Yeah, 3 Mariamune 1-3 Bahrastos 0-1 Lithosazim works great if you're not playing Zoodiacs. Those pure Draco builds exist, and they also run a lot more of the S/Ts because they actually use their effects instead of just treating them as tribute fodder for Master Peace.

But you're playing Zoodiacs. So that's not happening.
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>>166288085
>Zod variant use minimal True Draco, but the True Draco variant use far more than what you described.

Yeah, but the Zoodiac variant is better. Your point will be valid once Zoodiacs get hit.
Right now, it literally doesn't matter what inferior versions of the deck run.
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>>166288070
I barely ever make VFD. I just like using the True Kings.
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>>166288090
>>166288197
Those "pure" True Draco that use a lot of True Draco cards topping more than Zod though.
At least for now. >>166286545
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>>166288090
I'm not playing Zoodiacs. I am neither gay nor a furry.
I'll be selling all the Rats I pull to suckers for money, as you should too. Unless you're buying, then please!
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Reminder that Agnimazud is the strongest and the cutest and if you don't use him you're a bad person
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>>166287624
>https://ocg.xpg.jp/deck/deck.fcgi?ListNo=276876

"Twelve Beast Sarah Blade", "a ghost rabbit" and "Greedy greedy vase"

Oh my, those translations xD
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>>166288240
The True Draco part of that graph includes Zoodiacs ft. Master Peace as well.
Someone called RotK out on including them, but he said that because Master Peace was the primary threat of the deck, it should fall under True Dracos, not Zoodiacs.
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>>166288415
>16 True Draco (13 Zoodiac variant)
>15 Zoodiac (8 Kaiju, 3 True Draco variant)
>Edit: True Draco Zoodiac decks have been properly re-classified under Zoodiac.
They fixed it.
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>>166288415
>but he said that because Master Peace was the primary threat of the deck, it should fall under True Dracos, not Zoodiacs.
He really is reaching to not say Zoodiacs are not tier 0 isn't he?
It's going to be interesting to see what OCG will do when the Rat engine bites the dust.
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>>166288372
>using xD unironically

Unironically kill yourself.
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>>166288656
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>>166288583
Oh, so he did.
I stand corrected in that case.
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>>166287835
Don't pool Hearthstone in with physical card games.
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>>166288656
Ironically no :~~~D
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>>166288583
>16 True Draco (13 Zoodiac variant)
>15 Zoodiac (8 Kaiju, 3 True Draco variant)
I don't even know what's a deck, a deck variant or an engine in the deck anymore.
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>>166288825
>Team
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>>166288828
how is Pokemon bigger than YGO, the game was even more retarded with powercreep last I checked
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>>166288587
God I can't wait. I have a good feeling we'll see D/D/D/ or Blue-Eyes or Monarchs make a struggling return as people squabble for something to play.
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>>166288587
Well, these three deck is clearly different, so listing them all as True Draco Zodiac is inconvenient at the very least.
And we all know Rat is currently tier 0 anyway.
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>>166288986
>I have a good feeling we'll see D/D/D/ or Blue-Eyes or Monarchs make a struggling return as people squabble for something to play.
I feel like this really is the case.
D/Ds just got some new support in MACR and they're getting more in the V-JUMP or CP because of the manga and Reiji still has some unreleased cards.
Blue-eyes is next in line in the legacy cycle for support in CODU.
Monarchs are starting to get their cards back little by little, they have 2 Domain now and they just need back Pantheism and the last copy of Domain to be at full power.
>>166289075
This is confusing to hell.
They all use Zoodiacs, True Kings and Baobabboon but their ratios and tech choices are different.
This is just a mess of archetypes like some kid bought some boosters and tried to make a deck out of them.
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>>166288986
>>166289439
Dinosaurs. It will be Dinosaurs time to shine.
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>>166289665
After the disappointment of Pendulum Magicians, Ancient Gears and Felgrand, I'm not sold on this deck yet.
What can it do consistently that helps it keep up with Rat cancer that doesn't involve the Rat itself?
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>>166289982
First turn Laggia/Dolka, Ultimate Conductor Tyranno, and motherfucking VFD on the first turn with startling consistency.
Ultimate Conductor itself is possibly the best main deck boss in the game, simply shutting down entire fields at any given moment, and then burning for days.
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>>166289075
>>166289439
These lists just get more and more confusing when I try to find anything in common between them other than questionable choices
Especially that first "lmoa 3 offs" mashup
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>>166290264
>First turn Laggia/Dolka, Ultimate Conductor Tyranno, and motherfucking VFD on the first turn with startling consistency.
Decklist?
How does this combo work?
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>>166290264
>Ultimate Conductor itself is possibly the best main deck boss in the game
Ha
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>>166286545
And there are still people who thinks that Zoodiac is Tier 0.
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>>166290495
This is my build right now, it's something of a WIP.

It might be debatable if True Kings work that well with Dracos, but they fit in here like a bullet in a gun.
The goal is to basically abuse the shit out of the Level 2 baby Dinos and their unrestricted effects.
Use Fossil Dig or Oviraptor or Miscellaneous to get some of the level 2 Dinos, pop one with Diagram, search Lithosazim, baby summons another baby, summon Lithosazim by popping two babies, the babies summon more Dinos, Lithosazim rapes the opponent's extra deck, Oviraptor kills babies, summons more Dinos, Aeolo into Longdong, Longdong with Litho into VFD or Ultimaya, make Ultimate Conductor and Laggia once you get a chance; it's nuts.
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>Maria banish 4 from opponent's deck do nothing if opponent have less than 4 card left in his deck
Oh, c'mon.
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>>166290909
>92%
I'm sorry, you're saying?
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>>166290959
How are you summoning Ultimaya
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is there any alternative engines to the speedroid invoker engine if i want to get/search lv 4 warriors out
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>>166291343
Aeolo tunes with any Level 4 to make Denglong. Denglong sends a King to the Grave to become Level 9. Tune Denglong with a True King, you got Ultimaya.
Denglong also searches a Yangzing trap for you to set and get Ultimaya's effect with.
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Remember when every deck had 3 TGU and Sangan? No one was saying shit like "TGU is tier 0".
Why people are memeing about 3 Rats and maybe 1 Snake now? Pure Zoodiacs are just ~35%.
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>>166290959
>Oviraptor is 1-card Donglong
Welp.
Another "engine" to add to Donglong turbo.
3 Ovi+1 Misc+1 Aeolo seems good, just like Copernicus engine.

>baby summons another baby
Only available with Babycera, not the Petira.
Your combo seems too specific and takes too many card to work consistently.
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>>166291702
Because all TGU and Sangan gave you was a Rank 3 and 1 search
Rat gives you 2 Rank 4s + a search.
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>>166291702
This is true, Zoodiacs are exploited more than anything. They're a staple archetype, same as Terraforming is a staple card. But nobody says Terraforming decks are tier 0.
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>>166291845
>Because all TGU and Sangan gave you was a Rank 3 and 1 search
Which was a big deal back in the day.
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>>166291702
>3 Rats and maybe 1 Snake
3 Rats, 1-2 Snake, 3 Triangle, 3 Baobab, 1 Invoker, at least 4 Zoodiac ED.
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>>166291790
The consistency comes from the fact that almost every card is searchable, partially thanks to based Fossil Dig.
But you're right, they won't be meta, at least, not yet.
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>>166290959
>test this build out
>open the babbies but nothing to pop them with
>open the True Kings but open with not enough monsters to pop
Is it always like this or is Percy just messing with me?
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>>166292185
Rotten luck from the sound of it. You can chuck in Desires if you're so obliged.
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>>166291861
Terraforming only takes 3 card from your deck, or 7.5%.
Rat engine takes 25% of your deck and 33% of your ED.
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>>166291861
Shit comparison. There is no such thing as a "Terraforming deck".
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>>166292416
Well, there was a time when a quarter or more of a deck was made up of generic staple cards. And when you think about it all Rank 4's are technically staples.
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>Waga tamashi will never get good protection support and better ways to turbo out tyrant
Feelsbadman.
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>One for one will never go to 3.
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>>166292729
His last episode had a Trap that lets you Synchro summon from the hand.
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>>166292675
Does said staple work with each other as part of a single play though?
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>>166276982
>Emeral is literally just """""""""""problematic""""""""""" because it fits well within Zoodiacs, which is a tier 0 deck. but on its own it's far, far, FAR from being remotely broken in any sense of the word.

Lavalval Chain fit in well with full power Nekroz too, anon :^)
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>>166291132
New toy syndrome
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>>166292663
>>166293024
It's just an analogy, it doesn't have to be accurate,
If something is freely splashable it's a staple, it doesn't matter how many cards are involved.
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>>166293050
>Lavalval Chain
>on its own it's far, far, FAR from being remotely broken in any sense of the word.
#UnchainTheChain
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>>166293050
Wasn't Lavalval chain banned for FTK's and because of Clownblade?
Emeral doesn't even "enable" the deck to work, it's just a recursion tool.
I don't know what's making you go "Emeral should be banned" but it's probably stupid.

>>166293351
Chain could probably come back to 1, it's not like those FTK decks it enables are an issue in any sense of the word.
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>>166293278
At which point does it stops being a staple and becomes a deck of its own?
The amount of cards involved decides whether something is splashed or everything else is splashed to that something instead.
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>>166291132
True Draco is closer to Tier 0 more than Zoodiac. Otherwise we could say that Maxx C is tier 0, because it is the most present card in meta.

Almost every single deck that says "Zoodiac variant" is literally just Rat engine with R4nk toolbox.
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>>166293490
I was shitposting, anon, let me have my fun.
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>>166293278
Proper analogies are accurate by definition
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>>166293202
>it's been 3 month since Rat
I'm sorry, what?
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>>166293650
Don't reply to me, retard
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>>166293526
Fair point.
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>>166293537
Cards can't be tiered. Decks are tiered. Terraforming and Maxx "C" cannot be "Tier 0" because the concept of a tier isn't defined for singular cards, only decks.
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>>166293537
You're dismissing all those "Pure" Zoodiac deck that actually topping way more than other Zoodiac variant and doesn't use any of the R4 toolbox beside Samurai and Emeral.

Even in that chart with True Draco, "Pure" Zoodiac still has as many tops as True Draco.
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>>166293850
Pot of Greed IS tier zero. Spear Cretin is petcard tier shit.
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>>166294096
Based on what?
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>>166293906
Yeah, but in that chart, True Draco has 1 more deck than Zoodiac. So True Draco is close to Tier 0. Although both are quite far from Tier 0, since they are on par with each other according to the meta.

And I said R4nk toolbox for the decks that are simply running the Rat Engine along their decks.
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>>166293850
This is what I meant. You can't actually say that Zoodiac has 92% of the meta, when it is actually just R4T Engine in 60% of those decks.

it's like saying that "C" archetype is tier 0, when actually, it is just Maxx "C". Although some of the other "C" does seem some competitive play.
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>>166295012
Your analogy still fails when you try to compare singular cards to entire engines.
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New WIND Spellcaster archetype, when?
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>>166295239
Never, not while Wind Witches and Majespecters are the OTP
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>>166295236
But both are still not the archetype. And that is the point.
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>>166295239
We'll probably never get one because of how Majespecter traps are worded.
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>>166295587
It doesn't work because the "C" cards (not an archetype, by the way) don't have any synergy or anything to do with each other, really, while the zoodiac engine is a suite of cards with synergy that work together to create advantage.
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>>166294814
Let's move back a bit for that tier 0. >>166217826
You can count Eidolon Zod as Zod variant because they have as much Eidolon card as they have Zod card.
What's the boundary for tier 0, again? 50%? 60%?

>R4nk toolbox for the decks that are simply running the Rat Engine along their decks.
Those deck are actually underrepresented in the meta.
Metal and Magician only have a handful of tops while Noid is a gray zone because that Bujin Xyz barely counts as R4 toolbox.
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>>166291861
Terraforming ban when?
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>>166296445
>What's the boundary for tier 0, again? 50%? 60%?
Do you understand the concept of tier 0? It means it's nearly unbeatable.
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>>166296713
>>166296713
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>>166296682
No, tier is strictly defined by the number of tops the deck has in a format.
There's a chart detailing this, but I don't have it.
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