/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

>>166156304
Actually decent OP on first try. Good job!
Now watch three more threads being pushed.

>>166156304
So close to a good thread.
So close, yet you used that abomination of an image.

>>166156304
Good thread.... I think

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No more arguing. No more hating. It's time for you to make a game. Practice your skills, and make your game great!

>>166156770
you're the rob, boss.

>>166156763
>misc
>((other))
>gm on top
>unity on top
Dayum son.

>>166156763
>gamemaker on top
>when Godot outclasses it in nearly every aspect
When will this meme end?

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>>166156763
>unity listed above ue4
Unity is at most the wife of UE4. Like a common whore, Unity gets used by everyone and in the end bends over for UE4.

>>166156886
>>166157057
>defying game maker's rightful place on olympus
The list doesn't lie.
http://www.homph.com/steam/

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>>166156620
Got any recommendations?

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Remade my aiming system to be more free.
IT was a pain in the ass to make it work in both client and server.

>>166157183
I recommend just like making game!

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>>166157094
>Like a common whore, Unity gets used by everyone
Yes anytime an application does it's job well and is used by many people it's because the application is trash, like a whore. I get it.

>>166157183
>the heat
>the noise
>the smell
>the projectiles threatening to destroy unstably positioned electronica
>the person in the inaccessible compartment above the door who is most likely dead
This picture is not comfy.

>>166156886
>>166157057
You niggers will argue about anything

I suppose next you'd argue skub belongs up there somewhere, wouldn't you? Fucking degenerates.

https://webmshare.com/yAazW

Continued toying with the shield shattering effect, now the music slows down when everything else does

>>166157392
>pro-skub
What kind of casual are you taking me for, boyo?

>>166156763
pretty sure the abyss is enginedev

>>166156763
>unity on top
Objectively Correct

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I was banned for posting racist shit on /v/, and i was too lazy to pass this gif to my ban evasion laptop.

There was an anon having trouble with shoulders
hope this helps

>>166157562
not that guy, but i am working on modeling atm so thanks!

>>166157392
Well there wasn't even a point to making that image in the first place. So I can throw in my opinion too.

>>166157562
>let's use an animated format for referential instruction pictures
How about not doing that?

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>>166157694
Best tutorials come in this format

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>>166157512
There are fouler things than engine devs in the great deep. Wretched things. Worse than nodevs.

The undev.

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>>166157694

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subtle spoilers

>>166157853
Much better. Appreciated.

Experiment status report update. Metroid Prime clone project "Dread" is nearing the final stages of initiation.

What was the name of that single-click game?
The player could only perform 1 action, clicking...

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>>166157183
that rake is gonna injure somebody

what kind of psycho brings a rake to a pillow fight?

>>166158034
Same kind of people using boardshields and 2x4s

>>166158034
Don't be a pussy. They're just grills

>>166158034
Leafs need to go.

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>>166158034
THE ONE WHO'S GOING TO WIN ANON

>>166158034
>>166158196
>>166158271
I think the dude trapped in the upper right compartment is about to get raped.

>>166157969
There's a million of those games. Often called incremental games, idle games, or clicker games.

>>166158376
The technical term is struggle-snuggle.
There's also someone filming it, right next to the previous, spent victim.

>>166158457
>tfw haven't resumed clicker heroes game in over 1.5 years
The numbers are probably unthinkable now and would take forever to reach just leveling everything up.

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All right, now that I've got 3D fighters working, I need some input.

For context, for people who might not have seen my progress stuff, the game is effectively Smash MUGEN. You'd be able to drop in all sorts of fighters and take them to battle with each other. My question to you is, what extent of work do you think is reasonable to expect a content creator to do? Keep in mind the game will be released in an open-source format, meaning anyone could open up Unity and modify things if they needed to.

1. Should character creation require the creator to use Unity? Even if it's just for simply creating a prefab or an animator?

2. For 2D fighters, which do you think is more reasonable? Manually defining, for each sprite, any anchor points (like for holding items, or for keeping articles like the pictured headband in place), or to convert any frame-by-frame animation to bone animation to use a similar parenting structure as 3D models?

3. Is it reasonable to expect for 2D animations, a text file that defines the boundaries and framerate of every spritesheet animation?

4. Should stages be able to be created dynamically from configuration files, or is it all right to expect a user to create a Unity scene for the stage?

Basically, what do you think should be the technical level I can expect from a fighter creator? Should I do everything in my power to make sure it's 110% idiot proof, or just accept that the only people likely to want to make fighters are willing to put in some work to make sure everything's going to go smoothly?

>>166158376
There is a guy outside the 4th wall

>>166156763
>Game Maker
>anything but twelve year old tier

>UE4
A great engine, but only optimized for one very specific type of game.

>Unity
Objectively trash. There is a reason everyone is moving away from it.

>>166157529
Only if you're retarded.
Proprietary software is shit.

>>166158854
So then what remains? Just enginedev?

>>166158854
unity, gamemaker and C++/OGL are the top three finished games tier approaches for AGDG

>>166158924
The only move to win is not to dev.

>>166157937
Ooh, that's the tutorial boss ship, right?

>>166158683
ask around on some mugen forum, so you get to know how is their workflow for characters right now, I bet you'll get better information than any of us can give you.

>>166158683
>1. Should character creation require the creator to use Unity? Even if it's just for simply creating a prefab or an animator?
Nope. Isn't the game in Python?
>3. Is it reasonable to expect for 2D animations, a text file that defines the boundaries and framerate of every spritesheet animation?
No. People are lazy.
>4. Should stages be able to be created dynamically from configuration files, or is it all right to expect a user to create a Unity scene for the stage?
You'll simply need to parse config files.

The answers to all your questions are obvious, they're just the answers that require more work.

>>166158946
If you're making a game in gamemaker, you limit yourself to such an extent that you can barely call the game yours. You may as well consider mods for Half Life "finished games".

Unity does have a lot of finished games and a lot of non-retarded users, but they're moving away from Unity and into better tools. Unity is shit. It's users aren't though.

>>166158924
Godot or [any GraphicsLibrary].

>>166158683
Expecting Unity use is alright, it's free. Gold would be in-game but character generator is gonna be a mountain of work for you. As long as it's not too complicated.

Limit as little as you can.

>>166158854
>Objectively trash. There is a reason everyone is moving away from it.
That's a weird way of saying it's the most used engine and is still growing in popularity. Think you can rephrase that maybe?

>>166159604
>it's free
As in beer, not freedom. If I have to install a large corporate application to make content for his game, and then recompile the game too, I'd just not make content for his game.

>>166159438
It was in Python. It got too unreasonable to maintain, and the framerate was garbage unless you have a beastly processor since Pygame is missing any sort of real hardware rendering.

>>166159704
You wouldn't need to recompile. I've got dynamic prefab loading, so if you just put it in the folder, it'll load it.

>>166159707
Well, fuck, looks like another potentially great FLOSS game goes down the trash.
I'll probably just stick to Smash + an Emulator if that's the case. ;-;

Have you considered using Godot or JavaScript+Canvas? Both of those are great performance-wise. Godot would be mostly copy and paste from your Python.

>>166159596
>If you're making a game in gamemaker, you limit yourself to such an extent that you can barely call the game yours.
What an idiotic thing to say.
>mods for Half Life
Oh you're the shitposter.

>>166159859
>Acknowledging the existence of any possible shitposters
You're likely a certain shitposter.

>>166159939
Indeed I am. But I am not the shitposter. And you will not compare game maker to half life mods on my watch.

>>166159829
Why is it bad to switch to Unity? The game should be the same, gameplay-wise.

My reasons for switching to Unity were that if I have to start over from scratch, I might as well start over in the engine that gives me the most features, and Unity supports 3D, handles a lot of the physics and collision stuff I was struggling to make fast enough, and is well known enough that I can easily find tutorials, assets, and collaborators.

>>166159704
It's very niche anyway. Those in that niche wouldn't really mind. Casuals would never do much but just play the game.

>>166160007
Yes I will. I just did. I'll do it again.
Game maker does not supply you with a genuine fully featured engine. It is closer to a 2D map-making system than a true game development system. Sure, you can hackishly create things that don't belong on GM in it, but it's insanely bad performance wise and it just makes your workflow more stupid.

>>166160104
>Why is it bad to switch to Unity?
Because I don't want to run code that I can't read on my system.
I don't trust a corporation to be truthful about their code with things like Windows Telemetry in the world, I definitely don't trust some guy from 4chan to provide me with a binary that isn't malicious.

Godot gives all the features you've listed.

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How can I make a game if I don't have any limbs, please help

>>166160109
I'd be in the niche and I mind. Especially the fact that I have to install shitware on my PC to make content for the game.

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>>166160454
By trying harder

>>166160529
Post mugen characters you've made.

>>166160454
I wonder if a snake owner has ever let their snake wrap itself around their dick

>>166160568
what animal is this?

>>166159704
>>166159438
>>166159604

Okay, so, here's the thoughts I'm getting. I need to have a way to load a super basic character with no Unity. A person should be able to drop in some sprite sheets, and modify the Hitbox definitions, and have a fully realized character.

I think it's also not ENTIRELY unreasonable to expect someone who wants to make a really complex fighter, like Ice Climbers or Little Mac, to create the fighter in Unity and import it.

>>166160380
I mean, technically any binary I included with the Python version could technically be anything anyway. I don't really think it's worthwhile to change engines just to dodge some download paranoia.

>>166160706
100% yes.

>>166160124
But there are no source games released from here. Like ever. And there are many finished game maker studio games.

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>>166156304
there is no such thing as comfydev even if you put your sweatshirt on
this is why comfy jam will fail

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How many people will appreciate the MSX BG tile lightning?
I'm guessing: 0 peoples.

WIYG > JLMG

what do you do with a thickness map?

>>166161289
Only by quantity though.

>>166161273
Most people who play video games are too young or live in a place like America where home computers never took off to understand that reference

>>166161357
Find a new gf

>>166161273
the vast majority of people will just say "hhaa old games epic"

>have had a song to write on my list for weeks now
>still havent produced anything
>have left the dev hanging without proper communication
Sometimes I just hate myself ya know

>>166156304
I have a question about the engines and if there's a FAQ please direct me to it, but I'm wanting to design a game for smart phones looking around online http://www.lua.org/ seems like one a lot of people use, but I can't seem to find out why. I noticed that you all don't have that one listed. I was just looking for reasons to use or not to use it, and if I'm lucky maybe what would be a good language to use.

Thanks.

>>166161725
I've been there before
the best antidote is like a weekly/semi weekly forced meeting
even if you don't have anything to say it will keep both of you from forgetting

>>166161273
well i think it's cool

>>166161859
There's a small write-up here: http://tools.aggydaggy.com/engines.html

Lua itself isn't an engine but a language. LÖVE is an engine / framework implementing Lua.

ignoring all the random stuff on top, do these splatters look ok?

>>166162384
yes

>>166162384
Ain't much, but it will do.

>>166157094

Unity is the best game engine there is tbqh senpai.

>>166162384
lol you forgot your image hahahaha

>>166162014
Ahhhh thank you. I'm very very new to this in many ways. I'm the least experienced member of the team. I'll look into this. Thank you again.

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>>166162384
>>166162421
>>166162416
>>166162474

>>166161273
haha old games epic

>>166162546
They take a lot of visual emphasis away from the other stuff which I dislike
maybe you could try a dither shader ala downwell?

>>166161273

why doesn't the lightning tile have an alpha ?

>>166162526
You said you wanted to deploy to smartphones. You should be aware that many proprietary engines charge extra for export templates to non-PC platforms. If that kind of money is a factor for you, you should inform yourself about that before you select an engine.

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just played Pony Island and I marvel the creativity
This "debugger" game mechanic is 100% unique. I've never seen it anywhere

>>166162546
>>166162637
counterpoint: paint the screen red

>>166162740
Thanks for the heads up I'll alert everyone to that possibility. Love's site says "You can use it freely for commercial purposes with no limitations." is that some lawyerese that isn't accurate?

>>166162805
nice dark souls clone

why do all the confusing bugs always start when i'm tired as fuck, this is funny anymore

it worked for the past hour now it suddenly doesn't anymore ???????????????????????

>>166163129
i think there's lead in the water

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Chamber draw animations done for a client

click click

>"M4"'s dust cover isn't modelled on the underside so I couldn't animate it
:(

>>166162940
Nah, LÖVE is free in that regard. Same for exporting to any platform.

The warning was more meant to alert you to the fact that Unity or GameMaker charge extra. Some people would argue that for a complete beginner, LÖVE may not be the best choice, because it requires you to do things that bigger engines may take care of for you automatically.

Nothing wrong with LÖVE though. It's neat. Just gotta fiddle around a bit.

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>>166163129

sometimes coding feels like building a house of cards

>>166163287
The arm seems to be clipping through the AK's mag outside of the frame. I'm not the least bit /k/ though, so whaddoino.

>>166163297
Is there a good LOVE for complete and total fools I could look at?

Say strong, comf-jammers.

>>166163287
I don't like the crosshair

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>>166163413
It isn't. I'm very /k/, I do know.

>>166163658
It's just for my renders to show camera movement. What would look good though? Updating my demo reel soon, want it to look noice.

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>>166163473
http://www.sheepolution.com/learn/book/contents

Fair warning: even though love supports android/ios the last time I tried it you had to be decently comfortable with compiling the engine yourself, and things that you might want for mobile gamedev like ad support/https, you'd have to write bindings for it. The basics like touch support are built-in, at least.

also the particle engine is really inflexible holy shit

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i removed everything on top
does the shape and general look/pattern of these splatters look alright? thats all i want to know

>>166163473
Can't really recommend anything with a good conscience, cause I haven't had a lot of contact with LÖVE. I would have recommended starting out with Gamemaker, because it is well documented and aimed at people getting into gamedev. You seem bound for going commercial with your team on the first try though, which is a bit risky, if I may say so.

Are you the guy supposed to do the coding part?

>>166163963
What exactly are you going for, aesthetically? Bloodsplatters? Paintball impacts?

pushing the commit button is comfy
back up your work is comfy

>>166164105
just nvm.........

>>166164348
If I knew what you were going for I could give an accurate statement and constructive criticism, which is what you've been asking for twice now. So don't nvm me, nigger.

>>166164331
A game where you create commits and push them.

>>166163963
is it supposed to be blood? then no

https://www.google.com/search?q=blood+splat&safe=off&biw=2560&bih=1310&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwib3uDcsdLRAhVDXBoKHfC8C94Q_AUIBigB

>>166160769
>I mean, technically any binary I included with the Python version could technically be anything anyway. I don't really think it's worthwhile to change engines just to dodge some download paranoia.
The difference is I could just right-click > compile-to-bin or compile-to-exe a Python script and I wouldn't have to worry about you doing anything fucky.

>>166162805
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hack_'n'_Slash

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>>166160730
It's a shark in a cat costume.

Now the logistics of how they made that picture...

>>166165617
3ds max

>>166165617
on a computer

What about a game where you play an office cubicle worker?

And you have to deal with shit like the dry cleaner ripping your suit, getting pulled over for speeding, your wife divorcing you and you slowly turning to alcoholism

>>166165721
>>166165726
HAS SCIENCE GONE TOO FAR?

>>166165843
sucks about your wife anon but you really shouldn't speed

>>166157220
Why doesn't the gun follow the camera rotation?

>>166165843
A game where you spend your free time, between soul crushing work, posting OC you made in Source engine and then samefagging 100 times about how disgusting it is.

hmm...

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>>166156304
Hey guys I'm thinking about getting into learning GameDev and I need to figure out what engine(s) I should start (And most likely stick) with.

My goal is to start out by making simple 2D games but eventually I want to gitgud enough to start messing around with 3D games.

What I'm trying to figure out is would it be best to:
Start with learning Gamemaker then move on to Unity/Unreal Engine for 3D.
Or (what I'm sorta leaning on) to focus on 2D and 3D in Unity and just stick with that.
And because I sometimes hear Unity is terrible: To start with and focus 2D/3D with Unreal Engine.

I'm hoping on having to learn one engine but I can compromise, though I don't know if what I'm suggesting is even viable or efficient.
Any help or advice would be nice though.

Is Unity for 2D a bad idea. Is Unity for 3D but not using the 3rd axis so it's fake-2d a better idea?

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>researching italian wars
>first spanish and french work together against naples and venice, then pope allies with france against venice, but switches sides to venice when he deices he's bored and makes an alliance of christian nations against france

what the FUCK is wrong with these people? there are NO clear sides, just a clusterfuck of land grabs and ad hoc alliances for short term gain

>>166166568
>just a clusterfuck of land grabs and ad hoc alliances for short term gain
Yes. You're surprised by this?

>>166166105
that's not really how this gamedev thing works these days, there's no graduating from 2D to 3D because 3D has one more dimension and you've mastered 2D so now you can comprehend the 3rd dimension.

really the main difference between 3d and 2d is how you create your assets. do you have to learn how to create 2d assets before you can create 3d assets? i don't know. either way, to get back to your original question, if 3d is your goal, you should start with a 3d engine.

>>166166568
Welcome to Europe, where the borders are made up and the alliances don't matter.

>>166166125
If you're experienced with Unity and not GM or Godot, then you may as well use unity.
Unity's fake 2d is technically inferior other 2d methods, but the extra overhead isn't a significant issue, even for mobile (don't develop for mobile).
All three engines have some good features and some bad ones.
- GM is generally easier to program with for non-programmers, but lacks features big time and has to compile the game every time you run.
- Unity has great features like the auto sprite cutter, good UI, superior 3d implementation and the ability run the game in the inspector and make changes while the game is running, but it's also inefficient and requires more coding to do things that are relatively simple in GM and Godot.
- Godot has some nice features like built in tilemapping and 2d lighting, decent 3d implementation and lots of drag and drop stuff, but the UI and language is pretty shit compared to Unity and GM.

Work with what you know and if you don't know anything, start with GM or Unity, because they have all the tutorials.

>>166166898
>but the UI and language is pretty shit compared to [...] GM
I oppose this statement.

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I recorded this thinking "it's nice for things to work for a change" before realizing it doesn't actually destroy those pins properly.
It's fixed now though.

>>166166627
Both, are my goal is was I was trying to say I suppose.

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>>166167046
>A bowling game where the player is a pin and whenever the pins get swept or struck they fall into bowling hell and have to fight their way out again so that they can get set up again. Sort of like Sisyphus, but with demon killing and bowling pins.

>>166166898
I know how to program, so it sounds like I should jump into Unity. If Unity 's 2D is inferior, I guess I'll make 3D assets and stick to 2.5D.

>>166163939
Ok

>>166163972
No I just want to be able to understand that part I'm more in the story, level design, and making the fighting numbers add up/

>>166167483
2.5D doesn't make sense for a 1MA unless you're very skilled at 3D and can make excellent art.
If you're not you're just going to be investing a massive amount more time in making assets for a final product that will probably look worse than doing pixel or vector art. I can't think of a single 2.5D game that actually looks good, can you?

>>166167838
Ikaruga

>>166167838
Kirby 64

how do i animate billboarded, 8 directional sprites in unity

>>166168024
Yes, I am very certain that that post is not you.

I made a laser beam

volume warning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0liCh_H_0o
volume warning

>>166168159
But is it a homing laser?

>>166168159
nice

>>166167949
Off the top of my head I would make attach the sprite to a parent game object and then find the rotation of the game object relative to the player and call all your animations based on the rotation + whatever activity the sprite is supposed to be doing.

>>166168369
Wait I just realized I was meme. Deletion commence.

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>>166156763

>>166167949
>>166168306
Actually, come to think of it, finding the rotation between the base gameobject and the billboard would be a lot easier.

>>166168560
Stop trying to be so special and different Rust. Jeez

>>166168494
How many people have you claimed to be yourself so far? 12? Including danny who you always have to mention because you're obsessed. Such a mastermind.

>>166168494
Aw, what a qt

>>166168494
There is no such thing as a sourcefam. Do not acknowledge it's existence. Any sequential posts after this should be ignored.

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>tfw using GLFW and XInput separately
I don't really care about Linux or OS X or non-XInput controllers (they can use x360ce).

>want to generate randomly shaped rooms
>all the tutorials are for dungeons with mazes connecting perfectly square rooms

>>166168494
>>166168024
Report these posts and any more that pop up. Let's have a break for a day.

>>166169196
How randomly shaped?

>>166169196
>I need my hand held

>>166168494
>>166168794
>>166168795
>>166168827
>>166169258
>>166169052
(you)

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r8 my pir8

pirate scumbag ajaja

>>166169347
No. I actually do think they are cute.

>>166169387
Report this shit too.

>>166169305
I'm thinking at the moment of just trying to iterate around a grid and make chains of objects coming in from the outside edge to make wall things.

>>166169418
>no wooden legs/10
I don't quite get why you're going for firearms in your magic themed game / magic in your firearm themed game.

>>166169418
add more teeth

>>166169528
You could also go for a drunken_walk or line displacement algorithm to create your outline.

>>166169528
If I have the idea right, that sounds good.

Sort of random place some seed rooms that are a tile big. Grow them all iteratively until space is filled. Add doors so that the graph is complete.

The other one would be to pick a bunch of rooms and then run some sort of fitting/packing algorithm on them.

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>>166169604
>You could also go for a drunken_walk
Glug Glug.

>>166169531
Whats wrong with wizards using guns?

I'm only gonna have a couple of guns, they'll make your left-click stronger but you won't be able to cast magic

>>166169562
desu shouldn't pirates have less teeth than normal?

>>166169805
Not him. He looks like he has cute buck teeth.

>>166167838
Isn't is infinitely easier to make an animate 3d assets?

>>166169805
>Whats wrong with wizards using guns?
Nothing. The school of accelerated lead is mighty. Just wondering how you got there.

>>166169805
it's still an aligator. Give it a row of teeth and remove one or two

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Guys...I took the memes too far

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Which one is the best angle for a sci fi brain crack game?
and the second:
Is RPGM that bad all others said?
>yes I´m a robot

>>166169897
Once you have learned how to properly rig them and not to make animations that are objectively shite, yes. The more animations you need, the better 3D becomes in comparison. Or go the Overgrowth route and interpolate between 13 different poses to create a very goodlooking flow of motion.

>>166169942
>>166169805
Alligator needs a snaggle tooth.

>>166170006
45

>>166170006
>implying thats 25 degrees
>implying you even understand triangle math or circle math

>>166169871
They're supposed to be fangs

>>166169941
>Just wondering how you got there.

I started off making a Nuclear Throne clone with wizards cuz I always use wizards as a base sprite, intending to replace it later. Then I saw Google's halloween game where you draw with your mouse to cast spells and thought it would be cool to do a wizardy shooty game.

>>166169942
>it's still an aligator.
Yes, and?

>>166169897
That greatly depends on the style of game and style of art you're planning to do. Hand animating a 64x24 pixel sprite or lerp animating a vector character for a scrolling game vastly, vastly faster and easier than modelling, unwrapping, texturing, rigging and animating a decent quality 3d character.

is bokudev okay?

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>>166170380
>Yes, and?

>>166170419
I just wanna make a danmaku. So.. I'd just need to model some ships, and then I can steer and rotate them around really easily instead of having to animate different sprite frames.

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>>166170354
>mirror angle
>is just a question

>>166170505
Yes.

>>166170568
>I just wanna make a danmaku. So.. I'd just need to model some ships, and then I can steer and rotate them around really easily instead of having to animate different sprite frames.

For something as simple as a danmaku, 3d would be a massive waste of time. You don't need any animations on a danmaku ship, just draw one sprite and be done with it.

Will someone let me steal their comfy idea?

>>166170949
But I ALSO want experience working with 3D modelling and effects.

>>166171002
You're on a boat, floating in the waves.

>>166171275
That is what you will get then, because you aren't going to get around to completing useful assets for a long time.

>>166170586
Wow that picture thinks it's clever but it's actually retarded. Whoever made it must be a real douche.

>>166172089
Report this one.

Fucking Australians.

>>166172089
Did boku ever recover from this?

Boku, can you shed some light on the situation?

>>166169791
>>166172089
>here's my """meme""" from 2015 get it?
>here's my """meme""" from a few months ago get it?
Shutup.

>>166171953
Well, if you want experience doing 3d, a danmaku probably isn't the best option, since very little in those games needs a skeleton or animations and the stuff that does get animated is usually needs pretty advanced rigging.
If you want to make a danmaku make one with sensible sprite art and just practice 3d separately.

>>166171002
game adaptation of the kotatsu picture

you create a loli avatar and sit around a kotatsu with other anons over the internet

>>166171953
I'm trying to think of the most small-scoped project I can that would use 3d assets so that I can become accustomed to the workflow of both blender and unity3d.

>>166172089
Wow. I can't believe ""he"" did this

>>166172234
Meant for

>>166171275

lol this place is retarded

>>166172259
Hey, I didn't say it was a bad idea at all!

>>166172272
Shut.

Up.

>>166172089
Why would someone try to fake someone else's death?

>>166172234
Do you have a better suggestion?

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>>166170005
did you make this by any chance?

>>166172554
No. Someone you know or used to know did?

>>166172550
If you want to make a danmaku you should do that; working on an idea that you're not interested in is the best way to lose motivation.
If you really have to use 3d right now, then I would suggest using 3d for the ships and the backgrounds, but like that other guy said, it will take you ages to complete useful artwork if you try to learn 3d at the same time as you're making assets for a project.

>>166172873
Hm..ok. I'll use Unity2D then. Thanks.

Thank you janitor.

>>166172952
Sourcefag, you seem to be obsessed with danny, rotate, boku, nick ridgeway, am I missing anything else? Besides the fact that you rant about yourself as well (ebin false flag so smart). You need to get a life, nigger. Shitposting and habitually mentioning these people for over a year is not an ebin troll, it's not a meme, it's not catching on. Fuck off.

>export project in debug mode to test
>see lots of red flashing up in the commandline
>program crashes without giving me a chance to read errors
Thanks, Godot.

>>166173641
we told you about meme engines

>>166173852
Worked for DemoDay though.

I'm trying to come up with six elements represented by colors (orange is fire, yellow is electricity, etc.)
But what should red be?

>>166174081
Love.

>>166174081
fire

>>166174081
Blood.

>>166174081
chaos
iron

>>166174440
Chaos sounds like a good fit, thanks anon

>>166174081
(You)s

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>>166174081
heart

>>166174145
>>166174367
>>166174413
>>166174561
mine got the return (You) >>166174440
get rekt kiddos

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>>166174536
C&D is in the mail.

>>166174081
Memes

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>>166173641
Apparently exporting has decided to break dependencies from now on.

>>166174664
whats a heaning?

>>166175263
A way to misread this excellent font's M.

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What are some cool wizards I can stea- I mean draw inspiration from?

>>166175334
>excellent
oh brother, it falls apart when letters are alone - you can mistake the N or an R out of context at the top

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>>166175365

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>>166175675

>>166172817
it was "fan art" for my game. more like a mechanic suggestion.

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>>166175212
Apparently I managed to use res:// in exactly the right way in the demo.
Fucking fineprint.

>>166176365
cute

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Got swapping between gamepad to k&m controls display working (shows keyboard & mouse controls if input is detected from there, and shows gamepad controls if input is from there).

Also added toggle of this controls display to minimize it.

So I had an odd idea for a game mechanic.

It's a CYOA text game, but several times the choices would be on a roulette wheel, as though there are things you cannot fully control. They player hits where they want to stop the wheel, but there is a large chance of drift.

Like a coin flip, for a basic example. Wheel would be 50% heads and 50% tails. Not all of them have to be even, and percentages can be tweaked to fit a situation, like fleeing a zombie can be 80% success, 20% fail.

Or if you get turned into a vampire and there's a chance you'll either do what you say you will do or the roulette wheel might cause you to give-in to your urges and bite your friend.

Kind of inspired by CoC, where you can be a corrupted, sex-addled demon person and yet still have full control over your decisions. I think we could make some cool horror games with this, like how a bad end would cause the a 100% "Bite your friends" roulette wheel.

>>166177339
your abilities far surpass agdg as a community

I know idea guy posts usually get ignored but I feel this is more of a question than anything. Why has no video game in the vein of Supernatural (the tv series with the ridiculous plot) been done? Like I dunno you have a world map, you travel places, hunt things, save people. Maybe some minute RPG elements for whatever then throw in some third person shootan and you're done. Why has this not been done? Is it stupid? Impossibly hard?

>>166177913
I mean I won't lie, it looks decent and all that. But what? It's not something so high above us we couldn't possibly begin to divine how such a thing could bee accomplished.

>>166177913
that's a bought model.
>>166177780
>CYOA
>but you actually don't control anything
go away molly.

>>166177969
That's not a game idea, that's framing for a story/setting.

The Witcher has a story framing similar to that, although not in modern time.

>>166177969
So The Witcher except in Supernatural setting?

The answer to your question is that video games are a bit too modular, it's hard to merge several different types of gameplay together (combat with traveling with detective work/puzzle solving). Some people just want to have fun playing the game/enjoy the combat and don't want to get "stuck" on puzzles. Other people want to solve puzzles, but don't have the skill to get past the combat section. You end up alienating two different large crowds, ending up with a very niche fanbase, which for AAA devs is not worth the costs.

A solution would be to add a "skip button" for one of the two (L.A. Noire added skip to gameplay, Lords of Shadows added skip to puzzles, as some examples), but in my opinion this feels like detracting from the original intent and artistic vision behind such a game.

Personally one of my dream games is similar to what you mentioned, basically a SCP foundation game where you're the leader of a search team and have to travel across different countries and retrieve objects/creatures while solving the mysteries behind them and occasionally fighting off monsters/cultists/superstitious locals. However the scope is too big so I plan on working on it after I've already finished and released 2-3 other games.


>>166177780
Sounds like a gimmick mechanic and not something that could carry an entire game. It'd be fun to see it, but if the writing in the text-adventure game is bad then it really won't do anything for the player.

>>166178158
I did throw in a small amount of gameplay elements in there. Like I dunno you have like a HUB room where new 'cases' come in and you gotta go figure out what's going on then shoot the fucking shit out of the werewolf or whatever. As I said I was just curious why someone hadn't jumped on it when the tv series is like 20 seasons deep and it could either be something similar or a straight up adaption of the show.

>>166178158
>>166178389
I did try to play the Witcher 1 once, didn't like the combat system, if I recall. The third one is better I take it?

And I see what >>166178389 means especially, it would involve a lot of different gameplay elements.

>>166178414
The thing is, the gameplay elements you're glossing over is what will make it "stupid" or "impossibly hard" to do. The story framing has no bearing on the plausibility of the game, really.
A Supernatural-esque game could be executed in any number of ways, and it'd be the actual gameplay that determined if it were viable.

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Surely using a discrete collision system won't bite me in the ass down the line, right? :^)

Would you guys say in general you prefer a user controlled camera, or an automatic camera like in God of War that tries to give you the best view for the scene? For a zelda-type game.

>>166178821
user-controlled.

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Screenshake good? (Y/N)

>>166178742
Hmm yeah see what you mean now. I didn't really have much in mind I just had the thought the other day, 'why hasn't anything like supernatural been done?'.

>>166178976
>gif
Please, no.

Screenshake looks fine.

>>166178976
Make WEBMs

>>166178976
looks bad.
could be the gif could not be.

Swing looks like it has no weight therefor the screenshake looks jarring.

>>166178773
nah, just build around it. Everyone does it.

>>166166568
Basically usa's beta.
In the final version the side are even less clear, alliance even shorter, violent attack even more frequent, and it's all inside a single country.

>>166179093
how?

I'm an idiot

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pushing shit around works again

>>166179331
search "webms for retards" on youtube

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>>166177913
Force of habit, I guess. I've been browsing 4chan since about 2007, so I like to hang out here. And I got good feedback from the demo day.

>>166179347
Wow you really changed the stylistic appearance of this game. What would be beneficial to moving the opponent's pieces?

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My levels are spaces that are full of entities. The player is an entity like any other and goes into the same pool, but the player is still special. It receives controller input and is followed by the camera. (Other entities may or may not also have an input component.) It is also targeted by enemy entities.

But how do I keep track of the player? Do I just put a pointer to the player at the space level and assert there is only one?

>>166179876
You're trying to juice before you have gameplay.

>>166179912
What if juice IS the gaemplay?

Juiceplay, if you will.

>>166179985
then his juiceplay is awkward and bad.
Everything is slow and clunky.

And the background with the sprites clash a bit. I get the feeling they're giants, but I'm not entirely sure.

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>>166179542
The other half of that attack, which I just implemented, is to crush enemies if they're against a wall.

The basic unit can move 3 times, and its crush attack does 2 damage, which is potentially 6 damage per turn (very high as currently balanced). You would have to align it perfectly, however. Most of the time it will only get 2-4.

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>>166179985

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>>166180086
The sprites are all placeholder
What would make the game feel less clunky? Making the animations faster?

>>166180259
I think they're a disaporition between gameplay and polish.
You're trying to polish what isn't really there.
Now everything has to be fast to not be clunky.

I think you just need to put more work into the core gameplay before trying to add special things to it.

>>166180259
Don't have it flash when you get attacked, that's annoying.
Faster movement and attacks would be good.

>>166180332
not everything*

>tfw too intelligent for C++

>>166180443
>tfw haskell has sfml bindings and I'm getting more tempted every day

>>166180527
Nodev is comfy and fun like video games.

Any tips for mobile gamedev regarding performance? If I want low-end devices to run the game as well what vertcount should I aim for? How many textures? How many drawcalls?

>>166181146
Haskell is great though.
Most things in other languages that take 2-5 lines you can do in one.

>>166180332
>>166180335
Ok, ill work on my core gameplay and try to make it feel more responsive, thanks for the feedback

>>166157937
i don't understand i thought that was the enemy ship

>>166181194
you can't make a game in haskell
even john carmack couldn't do it

>>166179985
>juiceplay
My friend, no. No. It is not like that. That is not the way. If you go that way you will have nothing. Nothing. Nothing is what you will have. Do you hear what I am saying to you my friend. This is not a good way. It is not good. It is bupkis. A game is not much and this is not even a game. It is bupkis. Do you hear what I am saying to you my friend. Do you hear what the anons are saying. Listen to the anons. Make a game. Listen. If we knew what a game was then we would not be here. But I hear that you can find such persons as have made a game with the Google. Use the Google. Maybe they can tell you. But this, this is bupkis. This is not a game. This is just jibber jabber. My friend I know jibber jabber and this is jibber jabber. You do not want this. This is not the way to go. This is bupkis. No. You will have nothing. Nothing. Do not be a dumb goy like all the other dumb goys. Make a game. Do you hear what I am saying to you my friend.

>>166181681
>you can't make a game in haskell
carmack re-wrote doom and co in haskell though.

>>166181758
no, he tried but gave up partway through

>>166161273

1 out of maybe 50 people will get it.

I dig it, but I'm the kind of guy who hates widescreen "retro" style games like Shovel Knight due to autism.

>>166162730

See?

>>166181706
So what you're saying is...

The juiceplay revolution starts right here, right now! The age of gameplay is dead, but the juicy future, the juicture, has just begun!

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>>166182206
>>166181706
No, stop shitposting juiceplay

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Did juiceplay kill the thread?

>>166160706
I heard from my folks at MGQG snakes feel like a cheese grater

Nodevs are asleep post comfy progress

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>Finally have an idea to work with
>Can't sum up the energy to actually get started

>>166183553
break it all down to small tasks.

make sure each single task is as simple as it can reasonably be, and can be done in a week or less. if not, break that down further.

give each task a rating of how hard it is.

give each task a rating of how important it is.

put low difficulty, high importance tasks at the top

start on the first one

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>>166183485

>>166183715
Neat

>>166183485
progress isn't comfy
can I still post?

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>typical unity user

Why are the walls so short

>>166184010
meant for
>>166183715

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>>166156763
Where's monogame?

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>>166183485
>Should be finishing refactoring some code so I can implement a new combat system
>Instead wasting time on some bad attempt at making the player sprite

I don't even know why; I haven't tried animating actual things before. Maybe the rectangles are starting to get to me.

>>166183984
What the fuck, did he just put the whole game in one script without ever testing it?

>>166184243
most unity fellows are not software developers
they don't have any idea what they're doing

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>>166183984
>coding project at uni
>has to pass a automated test before it can be submitted
>if a function has more than 5 operations its deemed too complex
>spend more time splitting my code into 100 different functions than i spent writing it in the first place

>>166184010
No particular reason, they're just placeholders

>>166184114
This

>>166183984
>30k lines in a single method
>complexity limit in "programming language"
>30k lines of simple conditionals.
>doesn't even click run once during that time

>somehow doesn't know that the solution is just splitting the damn thing up into smaller functions.

Seriously, I can only assume "30 k lines" was some kind of typo and he actually means "30 lines". I can't even think of what 30 k lines of conditionals could possibly be used for in a video game.

>>166184398
>500 operations for a uni project
What was it?
>500 operations in a single function
You're a fucking idiot. Drop out of school so someone more capable can have your place.

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>>165923243
added some combat to this fighter type game I'm working on

>>166183978
Ok, but be sure to do it quietly else the nodevs might wake up

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>>166184798
>500 operations in a single function
who r u quotin

>>166185047
>5 operations in 100 functions

>>166185079
They weren't originally all in one function you dummy. Had to split it up so much because something like
>if(x + y < z) { x += y; }
already takes up 4 operations

>>166185198
that is one operation you retard, ifs don't count only the bracket shit does

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Finished the best feature of the game.
Now the Corgi could BARK

Realistically... What can you expect from a somewhat experienced programmer?

Is like, shitty GW2 combat the most I could get? Or could one make TERA/more advanced darksouls combat?
If I have to find a couple of highly experienced programmers, then it's kinda hopeless...

>>166185474
Well, does it work?

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disregard this

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>>166185462
Not according to the stupid bot that was assessing our programs

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>>166185495
>rotating turret
>no rixels

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no u

>>166185527
Have you even seen code generated by a bot? For example the WYSIWYG editors? It's fucking trash. Not even god could untangle that garbage. Bots are autistic retards when it comes to checking code quality and they aren't qualified to do it.
Your professor is a retard.
There is only one thing you can do now. When you submit your program, do not send it as a file, but print it out on a right side of a large paper and on the left side put a picture of the diploma.tif guy

>>166185676
I complained to my professor about it and his justification was "It means people HAVE to split up their code, which is good practice!"

>>166185835
You are probably laying since i refuse to believe that someone who says crap like that became an actual professor.
The correct answer to almost everything code is: IT DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION

>>166185973
I wish I was. Some of the students were absolutely retarded though so I can't really blame him for being overzealous on the some of the idiot-proofing

Shit I really want to make that flower girl raising game but I can't come up with actual gameplay besides watering them and giving them light/fertilizer.
I don't want to make it that when a plant has fully grown you sell it or something, and I don't want to make it so the plants can die if you don't treat them well because that would be too sad.

>>166185973
>i refuse to believe that someone who says crap like that became an actual professor
You are so naive

>>166184890
>fighting game
abandon all hope, ye who enter here

>>166186241
If you don't take care of them properly they NTR you

>>166186381
the tentative idea right now is a beat 'em up with fighting game mechanics

>>166177339
>>166177913
>>166178043
I'm mostly impressed of the tools he has made for his game. That attack editor was fucking awesome.

>>166186241
>too sad.
This is good

Does anyone else feel like their game ideas are incredibly normal or even generic? Like successful indie games are usually somehow weird or different.

Should I be worried? I think the 'indieness' of some of those games have helped them to stand out and be successful and I'm afraid that my ideas won't achieve that due to being too normal.

>>166187004
yes, you should be worried

>>166187004
My ideas are shit and I will never be succesful

>>166187004
i forget indie games that aim for realistic/painted artstyle in a fantasy setting 3 seconds after i see them
but then again it might be because i'm a tremendous autist

>>166187004
the whole concept of
>ideas don't matter
is a meme
you need to have really great ideas to end up with a decent game
there's a reason why "game designer" is a thing that exists