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>>165985558
First for BEST NEW ROOM

>>165985697
exit+continue

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>>165985697
If you want something done right...

>tfw cursed tears quad shot with fucking holy light

fucking ludicrous

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>>165986174

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>>165985558
One part of Isaac's decline that nobody seems to talk about but which really bothers me is in the descriptive text accompanying items.

>Old Isaac
>Breakfast
>HP Up

>New Isaac
>[Any Item]
>LE EBIN MAYMAY XD

If you don't want people data mining the game, try actually telling us what shit does.

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>>165986240

this shit is imbalanced

Is there any reason to visit Downpour, Mines or Mausoleum once you've unlocked The Corpse?

Like are there specific bonuses for going down into any of them (besides getting the knife)?

>>165986776

no not really. im assuming that the reality of it being a mod maybe kept them from adding the floors into the pool.

>>165986776
Double item rooms.

>>165986776
The item rooms in them always give you a choice between 2
Going through Mausoleum lets you skip Womb 1
The Knife's not a bad item regardless if you're going to Corpse

is it possible to buy afterbirth+ then refund it and it will still be active anyway

>>165986776
Doubled up Item Rooms and Angel Rooms have extra pedestals when items spawn.

Name the most underrated Rogue-lite.

>tarot cloth in devil room
>tarot cloth in greed shop

does taking both of them quadruple cards/rune effects?

>>165987728
Try it out and tell us.

>>165987728
IIRC yes.

>>165987893
>>165987781

Just tried it, one of them gave 2 of Diamonds so it turned out to be the correct play anyway.

Unfortunately they don't stack, 17 coins only went to 68 instead of doubling 3 times.

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JUST

>>165988258
>all these damage ups
>5 red hearts
yolo that shit

>>165988258
DO IT YOU COWARD

A crazy combo:

>getting the Book Worm transformation combined with Ludo means that no matter what you do, you can always hear yourself firing

>>165988258
Do it or drop trinket, pick up trinket and walk past.

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>Void the bottle of pills
>Void placebo for the meme dream and all the pills I've seen so far have been either neutral or Balls of Steel
>turns out theres a Speed Down in the rotation

>>165988685
You have nobody to blame but yourself.

>>165986390
>not wanting to figure it out yourself

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>>165985697
you are like baby

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>>165988505

God, that was crazy.

>>165989027
Some items are so subltle not even the wiki has their effects.

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Which

>>165990803

Cricket's Head - why wouldn't you want a solid damage boost?

>>165990869
Yeah, realized i already had scorpio and multiple poisons dont stack.

>>165991210

Well, Mucormycosis makes enemies create fart clouds when enemies die, but yeah, that was an easy choice.

>>165987667
There aren't many that recieve hate that do not deserve every bit of it. You clearly have some in mind, share.

>smelted store credit doesnt work anymore

Edmund "McShillen" McMillen
Edmund "seizures are fun, not a 1 run" McMillen
Fagmund "Don't blame me, it's your PC" McFatten
Edmund "Game gives you grin? Item reskin" McMillen.
Edmund "Character's perf? Time for a nerf" McMillen
Edmund "it's just a bug, now give me a hug" McMillen
Edmund "Lower the axe 'til all items are lax" McMillen
Eggmund "I'm such a hack, I'll nerf the Sack" McMuffin
Edmund "you knew the cost of spoiling the lost" McMillen
Edmund "enjoying lilith? too bad she's killith" McMillen
Edmund "Nothing is safe, I'll nerf a year late" McMillen
Edmund "There'll be no fun until the ARG's done" McMillen
Edmund "If it clears a room, the item is doomed" McMillen
Edmund "If you're having fun, I'm getting my gun" McMillen
Edmund "Eat that steak slow, let the juices flow" McMillen
Edmund "open the hatch when you download my patch" McMillen
Edmund "If you're feeling gay, a nerf's on the way" McMillen
Edmund "If the item's a hit, let's turn it to shit" McMillen
Edmund "If there's fun to be had, I'll make it bad" McMillen
Edmund "Pull the nerf trigger on every demon nigger" McMillen
Fatmund "You don't know how to click, now suck my dick" McDonalds
Edmund "Think My Game's Thrillin'? Not With This Villain" McMillen
Edmund "Fun is worthless excrement, nerfing is my element" McMillen
Edmund "I'd collect unemployment before I'd give you enjoyment" McMillen
Edmund "That item there was excellent, now it's barely relevant" McMillen
Edmund "Your tears to me are like a choir, it's a bug I'm not a liar" McMillen
Edmund "they said the the game was too easy so I just broke everything because I'm fat and lazy" McMillen.

>>165991678
>Blank Card 2 of Diamonds is still a thing
>But no Smelter Store Credit is too broken
Oh come on, nerfing a combination of items that is slightly more rare and exactly as effective as another set of items is just fucking stupid.

>>165991678
Are Monkey Paw and Missing Poster also nerfed?

>>165990803
Cricket's is solid, Mucor isn't great past Caves/Mines cause everything starts to have more HP so fart chains aren't as easy without Giant Bean.

>>165991678
>Store Credit
Weird, since Walnut, Tonsil, Wish Bone, and Bag Lunch keep on working.

>>165990803
def crickets

>>165992463
At one point Smelting Store Credit straight up crashed the game so they might have nerfed it cause that was still happening sometimes.

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>>165992840
>This certain combo crashes the game
>Instead of fixing it, let's just not let you get this combo!

>>165992943

Has anyone absorbed Blank Card with Void and then used with a "?" card? I crashed the game last time I did that but I haven't found the combo again since.

>>165992943
This would hardly be the first time a gaming company has just straight up turned off something they couldn't fix.

>>165992840
>>165992943
Sounds like a "bug" from Borderlands 2 I remember fondly.
>Krieg, the last DLC character, has a series of really long lines he can start reciting when a special passive of his, Raving Retribution, goes off
>They're some of his best lines in the entire game by far
>There's a standing bug where if one of his goes off and an NPC starts speaking, it overrides the NPC voice for everyone in a MP match instead of only for the Krieg player who triggered his lines
>Instead of fixing it, they just removed his voice lines

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>>165993485

>>165993485
21:28 for those interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd0IaBX8cEU

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>Going for boss rush
>A fucking red heart starts running away from me when I desperately need it
>IT
>FUCKING
>RAN
>AWAY

I chased that little shit into a corner, but what the fuck was up with that? Is this a fucking joke?

>>165994161

Scared Hearts, they were added in afterbirth+

Enjoy your steak :^)

>>165994161
They're called scared hearts. Wait until you straight up need one to avoid dying and it runs over spikes in the middle of a fight.

>>165994342
>>165994395
funny joke
it it a glitch?

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>>165994161
I thought those had to do with the bad breath item but what is the point of this type of heart? It's just an annoyance and dumb. Mimics add something. These aren't fun at all.

>>165994495
It's content added in Afterbirth+. They are working as intended.

>>165994520
>what is the point of this type of heart?
What's the point of any type of heart?

Having rewards that run from you/fight you isn't exactly uncommon in games.

>>165994495
no es fake
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Hearts_(Pickup)#Scared_Hearts

remember to chew slowly

>>165994495

are sticky nickels a glitch

are mimic chests a glitch

>decent items
>half heart
>use an unknown pill
>telepills
>teleports directly on top of an enemy
>dies
I'm loving it.

>>165994672
what the fuck edmund

>>165995075

>taking unknown pills at half a heart

curse rooms exist you know

>>165995284
It could have also been a full health pill.

So I beat the hush's first form, and it let me continue to the cathedral without fighting the second form. Is this a glitch, or just something that sometimes happens now?

>>165995851
It's a standing glitch that nobody can explain.

>>165995851
That wasn't hush, it was blue baby
>>165995967
Blue baby has a 25% chance to replace hush

>>165996180
>Blue baby has a 25% chance to replace hush
do you still get the unlock for hush?

>>165996334
Yes

>>165996406
thank the lord edmund gave us mercy

>try the lost on Antibirth
>See he doesn't have holy mantle on the character select screen, but does have the d4
>"fuck it, why not"
>start game
>small glowing aura around the lost
>"wait a second..."
>run into enemy to check
>HE HAS A BUILT IN NON-REROLLABLE HOLY MANTLE

How did breadmund get so btfo'd, /lite/?

>>165997308
Hit F7.

>>165997308
So can he get the actual Holy Mantle and get 2 free hits per room?

>>165997308
D4 is now useful on him?

>>165997497
Oh. Nevermind. Sadness continues.

>>165997819
>>165997521

Hitting F7 reveals that he does in fact start holding the holy mantle despite it not being listed on his character info. It rerolls it, I was too hopeful.

maybe one day

What is your favorite gun In EtG, the one that make you say "this run gonna be a cakewalk"
Alternatively what is your least favorite gun

>Card Against Humanity
>Use in a 2X2 room
>Spend 5 minutes playing Janitor
>30 cents and 3 Soul Hearts
Worth.

>>165998195
>Card Against Humanity
>Use in a 2X2 room
>run back to get that Hagalaz rune you left on the ground 7 rooms ago

>>165998195
>you will never get Void+Blank Card+Placebo+Deep Pockets+Card Against Humanity+Infested!

When is someone going to mix Antibirth and Afterbirth+? how hard could it be

>>165998428
+Lil Larva+Mom's Purse+Meconium+Hive Mind

>>165998530
It will be a while, but it will obviously happen

It's not a 1 to 1 transfer because Antibirth was coded in a different programming language.

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Danny B >A_Rival>FamilyJules7X>Virt>Girlfriend Records

Does anyone disagree?

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>>165998003

Not necessarily "this run is gonna be a cakewalk" because desu, when you go on bullet hell runs, there's no such thing as a cake walk without clone but a few guns I'm always glad to see -

Commando - Great boss slayer, deals a fuck load of damage and explosions get rid of bullets to help clutch perfects for master rounds

Eye of the beholster - Great boss slayer, once again. Decent for room clearing as well. Has some fun synergies with element bullet passives (beadies spawned from the gun will get the proc)

Charmed Bow/ Shotgun full of love - Weapons that charm enemies are seriously underrated (or at least they were by me, at first). Charmed bow is incredibly ammo efficient, and charming key enemies is an amazing way to clear a room out and not have to get your hands dirty. Shotgun full of love charms and also hits like a god damn truck.

The Scrambler - This gun. THIS fucking gun. This is THE boss gun, and the fact that this thing comes from fucking blue chests makes NO god damn sense to me. Absolute fucking insane DPS and if you add in something like backup gun, it becomes damn near broken. If there WERE a gun that makes runs a cakewalk, in my eyes it's this one.

The Glacier - Similar to The Scrambler, I have no clue why this is from a C tier chest. Not quite as damaging as the scrambler, but it provides amazing cover as a swap weapon while you fight the a boss. Explosion and Freeze slowing is an excellent combination. It even has some interesting synergies (like with irradiated lead or hot lead, for example).

I honestly love most of the guns in this game, and there are very few truly "bad" guns in my eyes. in general, I don't much care for most of the D tier guns (brown chests) once I'm past like floor 3. Not because they're bad, but because they're outclassed by my other guns by a lot at that point. Least favorite is peashooter without Brocoli, or The Letter R after floor 1.

>>165986776
There's another way to get to the Corpse?

>>165998801
Isn't that the normal selection order?

>dong eden Delirium run
>kill hush's first phase
>second fight doesn't even spawn it just ends the fight

I know my run is
good game but you could at least put up a fight

>>165999286
I never noticed that, I meant in terms of quality.

Though I guess it makes sense to list them by quality in game, too.

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>>165986390
Isaac has always been meme central
>Shoop da whoop
>Lemon party
>Balls of Steel
It's like Edmund is a Redditor or something.

That being said, Edmund has a nasty habit of not explaining anything, and that leads to frustration of the players, which leads to his frustration when they datamine his precious steak.

>>165999605
newfag

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Nothing tilts me more than getting to the womb without any damage items.

>>165998530
The Antibirth team is working with Edmund because the whole point of Afterbirth+ is that Edmund is out of ideas so he's going to add content from modders every once in a while.

>>165999717
>Not restarting until you get a damage item

>>165999518
>in terms of quality
Nothing beats the original. Speaking of which, I wish they would actually make completely new tracks instead recycling.

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>>165999839
Was trying to get a regen item for ultra hard challenge. But at this point I'm probably just gonna try to get damage and hope for the best. Because I can't deal with it.

>>165999438
For whatever reason, Hush 1st phase has been replaced by fucking Blue "???" Baby.

Both my brother and I got a free Void run because Hush just decided to replace itself with ???.

>>165999869
>Nothing beats the original.
Which is why I have Danny B at the top, where his stuff belongs.

Also I'm the biggest sucker for leitmotifs in the world, I'm glad they all somewhat stick to the originals.

Really looking forward to the 20 new tracks too, even if it's only just like 4 new tracks and then all the variations on them

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I would defend Steakmund McMuffin if Keeper wasn't unnecessarily broken
>Several items don't even work on him
>Abaddon will instant-kill him and make him hilariously burst into guppy + soy milk amount of flies
>Piggy Bank works differently on him just to make him even harder for no reason
>Can't take several devil deals without a strength card because Keeper can't get more than 2 coins

An easy solution? Just let him get 3 coins total, or let him take free devil deals. Jesus, why does Satan want 2 coins that much?

I have finally beaten the Ultra Hard challenge. No more quad cage rooms sped up by the broken stopwatch ending a perfect run anymore. Now it's time to finally unlock the keeper, only need 90 more coins. I've heard that he is bad, but he can't be that bad, right?

>>166000449
He's awful. He's not even fun. Just awful.

>>166000449
See my post above yours.

He's fun, minus having the whole Lost gimmick going on. It just so happens to be that he's also terrible
>-2 luck
>Maggie speed
>Terrible fire rate, meaning if you miss your shotgun, you're dead
>2-hit kill
iirc, you even have to unlock the Wooden Nickel for him, which is the only thing making him playable.

>>166000174
1. That's not what broken means
2. He's a challenge character
3. He does have actual advantages and in for example Greed Mode he's a higher tier character than Azazel
4. Greed's Gullet now allows him to get more health

The Piggy Bank thing is bullshit though

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>>166000819
>Maggie speed
Starting with a speed up gives Maggie average speed, being able to recognize all speed up pills gives her above average speed.

>iirc, you even have to unlock the Wooden Nickel for him, which is the only thing making him playable.
Swallowed Penny is what actually makes him playable

>>166000871
> higher tier character
Ed fire your beta tester for the sake of god
>Greed's Gullet now allows him to get more health
So the solution to a gimmick character is to make him broken under certain conditions? How you get so much coins in greedier without reset scumming?

>>166001095
Azazel sucks donkey dick against Ultra Greed/Greedier because lolnorange and since you get coins every round and during the final fight drop coins when hit, Keeper is immortal if you don't play like a retard.

>>166001095
Not even. First you have to get a ridiculously rare item. Then you have to have enough coins to make it worthwhile. And even then all it does is make him from "complete shit" to "bad but usable". It's the same as Holy Mantle for original The Lost.

>>166000871
>That's not what broken means
Are you fucking serious? In what sense is getting BTFO by Satan just because he decided to spawn Abaddon not broken?

>>166000871

>He's a challenge character
>Challenge
>Holding R until you get the one thing that makes it even remotely doable is "Challenging"

There's challenge, and then there's completely fucking unreasonable.

Seriously, Has anyone even done a run on him without Swallowed Penny that was successful?

>>166001525
>Are you fucking serious? In what sense is getting BTFO by Satan just because he decided to spawn Abaddon not broken?
I'm going to assume english is a second language for you, because broken has a very specific meaning in the context of games which is not that.

>>166001579
Yes.

God Head + Head of the Keeper. I killed Hush without getting hit. That's how I unlocked most of the stuff as Keeper, including Deep Pockets. I was real fucking pissed when Polydacytly turned out to be Deep Pockets you don't need to unlock

>>165986390
Pretty sure HP up isn't an epik maymay

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SKILLED

>>166001681
No, you're just fucking retarded.

>because broken has a very specific meaning in the context of games which is not that
No, again, you're just retarded. That is a correct usage of the word broken. You must be an ESL faggot for not knowing that English is infamous for having words with triple, quadruple, dectuple meanings.

>>166001579
>Seriously, Has anyone even done a run on him without Swallowed Penny that was successful?
My Hush+Mega Satan kill was w/o Swallowed Penny.

In fact I Strength carded into Death's Touch in a devil deal and spent most of my run at 1 coin.

I had damage out the ass though.

And fruit cake proc'd on Super Envy during the Mega Satan fight and turned the entire arena into a sea of coins and by that point I was back up to 2 coins.

>>166001787
>No, again, you're just retarded. That is a correct usage of the word broken.
In no context does broken mean shit.

In this context it means the opposite of shit.

>>166001710

>Head of the keeper

That explains that. Killing hush without getting hit is more than doable, it's getting to hush in the first place that poses a problem.

it basically requires relying on something swallowed penny, piggy bank, head of the keeper, etc.

It reminds me of the "strategy" people had to use to finish The Lost in original rebirth. oh boy, praying for dead cat. my favoriiiiiiteeeeeee

>>166001950
Yes, broken means shit

And also it literally means broken, as in Keeper is broken and can't pick up Abaddon because Abaddon will kill him no matter what due to shoddy programming.

>>166001984
y not just play a better game

>>166001981
>tfw you get dead cat first floor as Lost
>tfw you barely manage to get to Hush, and he's glitched so you only have to kill his first form
>tfw you end up going to Delirium with 10 damage, 5 tear delay, and booger tears

I thought it'd have been a good run.

>>166001984
>as in Keeper is broken and can't pick up Abaddon because Abaddon will kill him no matter what due to shoddy programming.
That's not due to shoddy programming. His coins function as fucking red hearts. He can't hold spirit hearts, instead any spirit hearts he gains are converted into blue flies. It's no different than any other character picking up a devil deal that doesn't give them hp but takes all their remaining hp.

You're being retarded.

>>166001950

>In no context to broken me shit

It more or less means shit in the literal definition of the word. If I say "my car is broken" it doesn't mean my car is super awesome and makes everything easy like it does if I say "Man, this run is so broken." L2Words.

>>166002138

>L2words
>Typo like a motherfucker

okay, it's past my bed time.

>>166002138
>It more or less means shit in the literal definition of the word.
No, no it doesn't. A broken kit kat bar isn't shit.

You can't just say broken and mean shit.

You especially can't do that in a context where broken usually means the opposite of shit.

>>166002097
It's broken. While it does make sense that they put no thought into how the item would interact with Keeper, it's still fucking retarded that Abaddon will just insta-kill Keeper due to laziness when they went out of their way to nerf Piggybank on him. A competent team/programmer would've made Abaddon's -red hearts effect disabled on Keeper, so he could at least pick it up with Strength.

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>>166002429
>programmers go out of their way to nerf item on certain character to make certain character more difficult to use
>this somehow means that another thing that makes the same character harder to use was a mistake

>>166002429
>A competent team/programmer would've made Abaddon's -red hearts effect disabled on Keeper, so he could at least pick it up with Strength.
Why should they make picking up the item work differently explicitly for the keeper when it takes away every other character's red hearts?

I acknowledge the piggy bank thing as bullshit, but Abaddon is just working normally. You're criticizing consistent programming for being consistent.

>>166002231

Broken literally means non-functional.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/broken

>2b. not working properly (a broken camera)

I think he used it correctly. You seem to be the only one having any issue understanding what he meant in this context.

>>166002723
Except as we've established. The Keeper is working as intended.

He is intended to be shit.

>>166002668
>>166002653
But it's not consistent though. Keeper's coins aren't red hearts. They're programmed like red hearts, in certain ways, but not entirely. Keeper will always take static damage, no more, no less. Wafer doesn't work on him, he doesn't get any more damage taken in the Womb. Not to mention the refill mechanics, losing the coin entirely to replenish your health, and etc.

That's how it's broken. They shouldn't have been programmed so lazily. Just a little more effort to distinguish Keeper's coins from red hearts would've helped.

>>166002723
Not either of those anons, but in the case of isaac, broken tends to mean a stupidly overpowered run that renders all attempts at halting your progress "broken."

>>166002827

Yeah, it does. English is a very contextual language though. It's not hard to figure out by context alone what use of the word he was intending.

>>166002789
Check m8'd
I can't really argue with that.

>>166002827
That's only a more recent colloquial term. Broken has been used in reference to video games, without meaning strong, for at least 30 years prior. Broken, like imba, doesn't just mean broken strong, but broken weak/unplayable.

>>166002802
>They shouldn't have been programmed so lazily.
>Intentional difficulty with a consistent set of rules=lazy programming
Are you also buttmad the Lost can't complete its soul heart?

>>166002802
>"programmed so lazily"
>lists numerous cases that show coding explicitly implemented for that character
>read: extra work
???

>>166002932
This is practically binding of isaac general; You're expected to assume the nuances within the general.

>>166002941
It absolutely isn't consistent you retard. His coins only behave like red hearts in CERTAIN instances, due to sheer laziness

>>166002932
>Broken, like imba, doesn't just mean broken strong, but broken weak/unplayable.
Broken never means weak/unplayable in the context of gaming m8. That's gimped.

>>166003040
They aren't red hearts at all; they're coins. I don't know who said they're red hearts but you're both stupid for assuming that.

>>166003028
No, that's sheer laziness. Fuck off Nicalis, you hacks.

They went out of their way to make his coin health as gimmicky as fucking possible, but they cut corners everywhere. Coins working like red hearts in certain circumstance, while not doing so in others, items not working as intended (Piggybank), Guppy's Collar completely fucking ruining the character if it revives him, Polaroid, Negative, Whore of Babylon, and other health requirement items not working, etc.

It's sheer fucking laziness.

>>166003162
>Guppy's Collar completely fucking ruining the character if it revives him
??????

>>166003224
He revives with a half heart if Guppy's Collar is picked up.

Yeah, try defending that. "Working as intended" my ass.

>>166003162
Also, doesn't Guppy's collar revive him with half a coin for some fucking reason?

dude. isaac fucking SUCKS how is this core gameplay acceptable to anyone

>>166003259
Half a red heart.

Which makes the half-heart items (Negative/Polaroid/Whore of Babylon) work on him suddenly.

>>166003162
>items not working as intended (Piggybank)
Again, working as intended.

Bullshit, but working as intended. It's called a character specific nerf.

The Guppy's Collar thing is literally the only bug you listed.

The Coins function has whole red hearts for devil deals and item effects. Everything else you listed is a consequence of that deliberate coding.

>>166003248

I've never touched keeper at all, mainly because I don't hate myself enough to bother. Learning a lot from these posts. How does he interact with dead cat? Does it work "as intended"?

>>166003341
What about greeds gullet killing keeper if you reload the game with the additonal health

>>166003365
Is reduced to 1 coin, gains 9 extra lives that revive him with 1 coin if he dies.

>>166003387
One of numerous Afterbirth+ bugs. Rushed launch was rushed.

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>>166003341
Just because they programmed it that way doesn't mean it's lazy. They cut corners heavily.

>>166003365
Yes. Dead cat revives him with 1 coin. Guppy's Collar is half a red heart.

>>166003387
What happens if you get extra hearts with greed's gullet, then take a devil deal, then lose all the coins.

>Got every completion mark
>Just need to get items in the collection and misc unlocks

Whats the best way to farm for item collection? For example I need sworn protector but that only shows up in angel rooms.

I tried breaking run chaos but it breakfasts way too quickly to give me anything

>>166003162
Sheer laziness would be giving him two red hearts; going out of one's way to code gimmicky character-specific health containers is the opposite.

>>166003434
It's not* lazy

Other notable brokenness
>Wafer nerfs his i-frames, making it an entirely bad item for him
>Guppy's Paw can remove all of his health, but he won't die until he picks up an item
>Health will still turn into flies when he revives with a half heart from Guppy's Collar

"Working as intended"

>>166003434
>Just because they programmed it that way doesn't mean it's lazy. They cut corners heavily.
Literally every single fucking unique bullshit rule you've brought up is some extra bullshit they had to add onto a standard character archetype used for almost everyone else.

Just cause you don't fucking like how some shit works doesn't make it lazy programming.

>>166003512
Greed mode chaos

>>166003584
I already told you it just gives me breakfast after 5+ rerolls

>>166003512
>for passives
R in Greed mode until a D20 pops up, D20 break, Chaos, collect as much as possible before all you see is breakfast.

If you're missing any actives, repeatedly kill yourself as Eden.

>>166003561
>Wafer nerfs his i-frames, making it an entirely bad item for him

Holy shit this explains why I lost my keeper mega satan run because I got hit by his mega blast and died instantly despite having full hearts

>>166003580
>>166003553
No, it's lazy to try adding a unique mechanic, giving up halfway through and making a through so you don't have to fully flesh out the mechanic.

Number 1 rule of programming - do not half ass anything. Do or do not. Getting lazy will only end in disaster, IE what happened with Keeper. And no, Keeper reviving with a half heart from Guppy's Collar, or not dying immediately after sheering off your health with Guppy's Paw (doesn't work with Potato Peeler) is not intentionally programmed.

>>166003647
>Getting hit by mega blast in the first place

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>>166003647
Yup. You have to be a fucking God at Binding of Isaac to know everything that BTFO's Keeper off hand. You have to actively avoid like half of the item pool. It also makes Curse of the Blind goddamned impossible to deal with. I've had close to 40 runs as Keeper ended because I've picked up a terrible item with the curse.

Oh yeah, and you should just never take pills, because the -2 makes it more likely for you to get a Health Down, which will turn your Keeper run into a Rebirth Lost run.

>>166003780
I had swallowed penny. I thought I was invincible.

>>166003670
>And no, Keeper reviving with a half heart from Guppy's Collar, or not dying immediately after sheering off your health with Guppy's Paw (doesn't work with Potato Peeler) is not intentionally programmed.
I didn't say it was. You said Abbadon killing him was a glitch brought on by lazy programming you fucking dipshit.

Yes, Keeper has bugs, he's not the only part of this game with bugs.

And most of his difficulty has fuck all to do with those bugs and a lot of what you've bitched about isn't bugs.

>>166003670
No, it isn't. As I've already said: "sheer laziness" would be not trying at all. If you want to complain about the Keeper being unnecessarily shit then do that but don't try to hold the semantic high ground when you don't have it.

>>166003801
>Oh yeah, and you should just never take pills, because the -2 makes it more likely for you to get a Health Down, which will turn your Keeper run into a Rebirth Lost run.
Pretty sure Luck doesn't actively influence your pill rotation. But you shouldn't take pills regardless.

>>166003670
>Number 1 rule of programming - do not half ass anything
That may be a rule of game design, but programmers are people who are too lazy to accomplish x so they make something to do it for them. Number 1 rule of programming is actually to not reinvent the wheel AKA don't recreate something if it already exists else where, be lazy. You can see this philosophy in the game as well.

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>marathon and dedication still broken
I bet edmund did this delibirately because its piss easy to complete all the AB+ content

>>166003826
Not trying at all isn't laziness. It would've been better that way, in fact. Keeper with just the -2 luck, -0.15 speed, and triple shot would've been playable. Instead they took the interesting route and then got lazy halfway through, birthing the abomination that is current Keeper.

And then they had a chance to fix Keeper with Afterbirth +, but he's still just as broken as ever.

>>166003812
And as I already proved, it is a glitch that he gets BTFO by Abaddon, despite the fact that he doesn't have red hearts, but coins instead. His coins only work like red hearts when it comes to Satan, Guppy's Paw, and Potato Peeler. That's broken.

>>166003924
Not reinventing the wheel is rule #2.

Fatal errors are not fun to deal with, and that's what happens when you decide to half-ass something. Copy and pasting working code that you wrote before won't necessarily break a program.

>>166003924
>Number 1 rule of programming is actually to not reinvent the wheel AKA don't recreate something if it already exists else where, be lazy.
You're half right. While it's true that's an overall philosophy in programming and the entire reason we don't use machine code for everything, it's also standard practice to not directly copy and paste shit if you don't have to because you'll also copy any errors you missed, thus spreading the problem/introduce new problems by having conflicts with where the code was moved to.

>>166003973
>its piss easy to complete all the AB+ content
Be honest, do you have Sin Collector legit?

>>166003987
>And as I already proved, it is a glitch that he gets BTFO by Abaddon, despite the fact that he doesn't have red hearts, but coins instead. His coins only work like red hearts when it comes to Satan, Guppy's Paw, and Potato Peeler. That's broken.
So by that logic, since he has coins instead of health he shouldn't be able to take any devil deals?

And the same goes for the Lost I imagine?

>>166004159
No, they should be able to take infinite devil deals, because they don't have health for him to take.

It's the primary reason why Lost is better than Keeper - infinite devil deals, at no cost to himself.

>>166004159
Is it even possible to get sin collector legit? I thought it was still busted

>>166004257
>if you can't pay for something it should be free

>>166004159
Yeah, how so? I got it before they fixed the hush not showing up in the bestiary (it was just rng getting moms heart to show up in the void however)

>>166004293
Technically no since you will definitely get it illegitimately during the attempt because of exactly how it is busted.

Let me rephrase, have you completed your bestiary yet?

>>166004257
>>166004307
You can just believe that the keeper is just a stingy jew and would rather die than pay for satan's bullshit

>>166004375
That also works, but only for Abaddon.

Keeper can still jew Satan by using a Strength card.

>>166004307
Uh... yeah? Have you played the Lost?

>>166004307
You're right, this clearly needs immediate fixing.

We need to stop the lost from being able to take devil deals without dying. HP down pills, HP up pills, and all other HP increasing/decreasing items should also kill him instantly.

>>166004360
It is currently possible to complete the bestiary. I'm assuming Sin Collector is still bugged so you'll get it before doing so, but actually meeting the conditions for getting it legitimately are currently possible with the bestiary fixed.

>>166004052
Go to any book; It's number 1.


>>166004103
Of course it's bad to have bugs, but assuming eggman and his team knew there was a bug from the called code to begin with is a stretch in and of itself.

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>>166004446
Fuck outta here, Tyrone.

>>166004451
Yes I got it when I only had broken maw statue, brimstone statue and hush left. (Now I got hush since they fixed it).

Broken maw and brimstone statues dont show up so far as I know in AB+ or their chances are so ridiciliously low that I never see them, its just rng then.

>>166004473
1. Eggman isn't a developer for Isaac, you're thinking of Breadmund. All egg related naming conventions are reserved for another character in the Isaac community.
2. I don't think I'm the poster you think I am

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potato peeler is fun

>>166004531
>Broken maw and brimstone statues dont show up so far as I know in AB+ or their chances are so ridiciliously low that I never see them, its just rng then.
They show up; they're just rare as balls.

>>166002653
piggy bank is nerfed on only keeper? How?

>>166004663
No guaranteed money, you're lucky to even get 1 coin for every 5 damage you take.

>>166004663
Drops 0-1 instead of 1-2 coins so you can't cheese it for infinite money/use it like Swallowed Penny for a guaranteed health drop.

>>166004610
>fun

Thanks for telling me what item to nerf next. Look forward to the next update where potato peeler now kills you on use.

>>166004257
If keeper got free devil deals like The Lost, I might actually enjoy playing him. His health gimmick would have very clear benefits that I wouldn't feel like I have to keep hitting R in order to achieve, and he'd overall be a lot more enjoyable.

Hell, I actually enjoy playing the lost with holy mantle. Starting with spectral tears and flight is fucking awesome, and free curse rooms and devil deals are even more awesome.
e z Guppy.

>>166004789
I'm surprised they don't make blank card turn into the blank paper trinket after you use it a few times like they did to glowing hourglass to ruin it.

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>>166004807
Pretty much my thoughts exactly.

Hell, I'd prefer it if they just made him capable of getting 3 coins via a health up item, that way health up has a use on him, other than recovering health after Devil Deals.

It would add a lot of benefits and strategy to him while still keeping him as a challenge character. You still have to be at the top of your game, but you'd actually have some positives other than increased damage and shotgun tears.

>>166004741
>>166004710
And it's ONLY keeper? That's a dumb nerf. It didn't guarantee a win.

>>166005001
Yup. There are various exceptions that only affect Keeper, just to make him worse for no reason.

Imagine if Range Ups didn't work on Cain, or Health Ups on Judas. That's Keeper for you.

>>166004945

>Like they did to glowing hourglass to ruin it

WHAT? What did he do to my item!?!?

>>166005043
Or if Tech 2 overrode Brimstone on Cain

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>>166005060
What? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

>>166005060
They applied the playstation nerf where after 5 uses it turns into the normal hourglass.

I haven't tested it with ? card since that isn't technically using the item so that break might still exist.

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Anyone played this? I'm really enjoying it, but I need some tips since I'm getting my ass kicked even on normal.

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>>166005060

>>166005143
>>166005181
WHAT THE FUCK AND WHY

May as well just have godhead turn into toothpicks after 5 shots, am I right? Why let any item in the game be good?

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>>166004945
>Blank Card can now only be used 5 times
>Piggy Bank breaks into 5 coins after being hit between 1 - 5 times, removing the item from your inventory
>Gimpy disappears after 3 drops
>Mom's Knife can get stuck in enemies, reverting Isaac back to Tears
>Ipecac wears off after 2 floors
>Epic Fetus will cause Dr. Fetus to break into the room with the World 1 boss from Super Meat Boy and instant-kill Isaac after being used 5 times
>Mom's Trinket Box will only spawn 4 trinkets, and the trinket pool becomes entirely exhausted once the Trinket Box is
>Tammy's Head is a 12 room charge
>Sacred Heart lowers Isaac's speed to 0.05

>>166005207
>WHAT THE FUCK AND WHY
The Lost was too easy.

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>>166005162
I have bad news...
http://i.imgur.com/drjtTnV.mp4

>it's a "you play as Eve and not a single fucking damage upgrade shows up" episode

>>166005842
as eve I just go to 1 hp right away to make it fun

>>166005143
>>166005162
>>166005181
Wow. What a gigantic faggot.

>>166005353
Jokes on him, I already got my hush and boss rush marks on lost by breaking the game with it.

>>166005795
I have gotten that combo all of once and It was on a Lost run

I seriously don't get the nerf. Glowing Hourglass isn't even that commonly used of an item, as evidenced by the fact that a casual like me added a synergy to the wikia not that long ago that nobody fucking knew about.

This is making me curious though. Is there a mod somewhere out there that basically just reverts all the retarded decisions for the sake of "balance" Breadmund did?

>>166005976
It's to stop the greed mode exploit to fill the donation machine on one run I'd assume

>>166006052
can't edit existing items but you could remake items how you want them and hen remove the original from item pools

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>>166006225
THEN FUCKING CHANGE IT SO THE DONATION MACHINE GETS UNDONE

I LOVE THE LAZY WAY OUT DON'T YOU?

>>166006225
That'd be my guess too

>>166006291
That's actually harder than it sounds due to how the machine saves itself

>>166006052
Yeah, its called Antibirth

>>166006372
Could just have it jam automatically or not spawn at all if it detects you used glowing hourglass

>>166006374

Oh okay, cool. I'll just keep playing it then. Antibirth is fuckin sweet.

What item nerfs were actually warranted? Like, which items were truly overpowered that even getting them once in every 100 runs was so good that they needed to be nerfed?

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>>166006589
dark bum

>>166006589
Stopwatch

>godhead + sacred heart + eye of belial
Instantly won

Good coop rogue lites?

>>166006710

I can agree with stopwatch. Especially with how commonly stopwatch shows up in shops. That being said, I'm having blast with the non-nerfed stopwatch in Antibirth.

>>166006589
I can kind of understand the Head of Krampus nerf given how easy it is to obtain and how powerful it can be early on. To be fair, I'm playing antibirth, so I don't have to deal with the rotation.

>>166006753
Isaac (antibirth until proper coop is in ab+), gungeon and nuclear throne together

>>166006753

>coop
>rougelites

pick one

EtG has some fun coop, but the camera is retarded and will make you want to shoot yourself and/or your partner.

>>166005179
A-Anyone? Or is this just an Isaac thread?

Why won't they add online coop to Isaac again?

>>166006854
I've got bad news for you famalam...

>>166006865
Because online multiplayer is too hard for indie developers, only modders can put online into indie games

>>166006589
Box of Friends

>>166006589
Void needed the single use item nerf. It just did.

>>166001785
What game is this? I really fancy a new roguelite.

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>>166006589
why doesnt dumbmund nerf drop rates instead of fun

>>166007805
>>166008179
starward rogue

>Samson run, get fire rate mushroom in the first item room
>Soy Milk in the second room, why the fuck not
>oh god what have I done
>soon after, get Fire Mind
And then everything was fun again.

>>166008179
Drop rates are nerfed. Different item pools have different appearance rates with Secret Room and Angel Room at the bottom and even items within pools can be weighted like Mega Blast which I believe is the only example of that (1/5th the appearance rate of every other item in the pool).

Maybe Delirious too since it's the Angel Room equivalent.

>the most fun items in antibirth are in the secret room pool
why

>tfw not a single damage up but you're playing as bethany and you're guppy so it doesn't matter
life's good

>>166010461
i would hold R on principle

sometimes ill be on like depths 2 and get an annoying as fuck room and ill just be like "not fucking worth it" and hold R

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>>166010512

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I never knew it was possible to grab this item without taking damage until I tried it today.

>>166010660
>callous
uh...bro?

>>166010828
I am not a smart man

>>166010913
It is actually possible to get it without callous/flight/any other traditional method, but it requires being super tiny, just FYI.

You can literally walk between spikes at that point, let alone between rocks.

>>166012190
It makes me wonder how did they meet, a jew and a muslim.
Also FIX YOUR FUCKING GAME VLAMBOOZLE

>>165999605
neo /v/

Do you guys use a HUD mod for Binding?

>>166013445
Depends which.
Antibirth and Aftersteak+ already have them implemented.

>page 10

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Doing Greedier Lost run

NEVERMIND DIED TO BLOAT

>Play Judas on Greedier for the first time
>Book of Belial helps me clean the early rooms
>find a Pyromaniac
>Mega Greed can't deal damage to me

Thanks Edmund

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>Doing Suicide King for laffs
>Open chest
>Tammy's Head
I'm not even going to bother picking that up, I'd die within 2 rooms.

Since I saw no one mention it in the threads I've been in: If you can choose between a few items to pick up, for example int he boss rush room, you can void all of them at once.

>doing Lost Greedier
>cannot survive past Basement
>spiders kill me when I least expect them to
>every regular treasure room is a health up, Mom's Pearls, or Match Book
I want to die.

>>166017128

Thanks but that's been common knowledge since AB+ released.

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Game its barely the caves two what the hell are you doing with your life.

Game stop, I get you want me to win delirium but stop, this is unhealthy for you.

>>166017901
Alright, I thought so.

>>166017991
I just faced a sister vis/ double loki double trouble boss room in necro 1

Didnt even take 10 seconds to beat them. This game is so dumb sometimes.

>D100 doesn't reroll all pedestals on the floor
MOTHERFUCKING
WHY

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>>166017901
Wait what the fuck?

Where the fuck is hush?

Game what is this shit I feel robbed.

>Ipecac + Dead Eye Lost run
>die to Big Horn Little Horn wave in Greedier
>stop the timer and kill Little Horn
>OUT OF NOWHERE A RED LITTLE HORN SPAWNS AND KILLS ME WITH A FIRE BOMB
FUCK OFF

>>166018672
I thought it was fixed, today Hush was always there.

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>>166018765
>>166018672
WHAT THE FUCK?

I just walked into the room and delirium took like 80% of his hp in dmg. Did the game just go haha you get to have all the super strong items transformations and synergies but you cant use them on anyone?

This fucking game. Fuck it, Im gonna full clear the void.

>>166019020
That took a grand total of 2 extra minutes. What a strangely dissapointing run. Though I must admit, i was op as balls.

Can I ask something? Who is the person walking away in the delirium ending?

>>166019413
Edmund

Is there a Technology + Cricket's Body synergy yet?

Is glyph of balance just two soul hearts? Thanks steakmund

>>166019796
No, but try Cricket's Body+Compound Fracture+The Parasite+Jacob's Ladder

>>166020130
Guess I'm Voiding this tech then.

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Hello

>>166021072
Hello meet my friend energy sword.

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>>166021072

>>166021386
Come on, there has to be a reason to play as Flower or pick up Extra Feet mutation.
I think i really enjoy how Nuclear Throne zig sags between large mobs and strong singular enemies.

>>166021529
>he doesn't like plant
Pleb.

>2spooky4me and defense drone fly
I AM FUCKING INVINCIBLE

Greedier Mode is giving me a fucking aneurysm. I can't even survive to The Shot because of bullshit waves swarming me.

>>166022343
You can hit the button you know. It might go against all your instincts as a gamer and it does make you a bitch, but you can do it.

>>166022578
I should try hitting the button more on waves that I know will fuck with me. Like the double-spider and those fucking enemies on Womb that pop out of the ground to triple shot, then come back up offscreen to hit you. And they have too much health for how annoying they are.

>>166022718
Incidentally, it is actually weird to die on the shop.

Generally you either die on the basement from getting overwhelmed with shit damage, the caves from being ground down on the basement and not finding an out/going too hard on the first deal with the devil, the womb from the bullshit timer, or Ultra Greed from having a shit build and not enough hp for a carry.

If you die on the depths, sheol, or the shop, odds are you fucked up the meta hard or got a really bullshit set of waves outside the norm, like ALL THE VIS or one of the more horse shit Mega Maw variants.

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>>166023026
>tfw I still remember prenerf greedier sheol 8 vis wave

Im sorry mother.

Is Dungeon Souls any good?

No online multiplayer is making me question if I should get it or not.

>>166023357
It's very repetetive, but fun.

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>>166023130
>mfw I never had that but I got a prenerf Greedier 4 vis+2 vis wave combo as the Lost and I hadn't broken the shop

I survived the entire run.

>>166023453
>It's very repetitive
Rogue-lite general, m8.

>>166024114
Actually I technically fought 10 sister vis cause on another floor I got a 4 vis wave.

>>166023026

Pretty sure the womb timer was finally fixed with the last patch, did multiple greedier runs last night and it was noticeably slower.

>>166025804
>Took over 2 weeks to fix
Jesus.

>>166006549
Im slightly annoyed I got Afterbirth+ before noticing Antibirth was a thing(I haven't followed Isaac for almost a year now).

Guess I'll just wait till Antibirth gets updated to be compatible with +

>>166026053
>Guess I'll just wait till Antibirth gets updated to be compatible with +
Not sure this is a problem for you but that will likely be many months.

They have to rewrite the entire thing in a new programming language, not to mention tweak a bunch of stuff for compatibility with Afterbirth and + items.

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>Doing Backasswards
>Start with Pyromaniac, Curse of the Tower, Dr Fetus, and Parasite.
>Every bomb splits into two more bombs
>Every time I take a hit I spawn a metricfuckton of troll bombs
>Every bomb hit heals me
>Just run aroudn spamming bombs until I beat Mega Satan
>Don't lose Pyromaniac until after beating Mom's floor, so basically invincible until then.
>Lose Dr Fetus next floor
>Beat the boss, Devil Room gives me Brimstone
>tfw struggled with this challenge for 2 days, then completely faceroll it

>beat greedier first try on two characters

Did I finally get good at this shitty mode?

>>166028493
No, they finally nerfed it to a point where you could succeed.

Now boot up an earlier version and do 0 second first wave womb with 4 hyper fast sister vis to a wave and 8 less cents per floor.

>>166026760
>Just run aroudn spamming bombs until I beat Mega Satan
Looks like somebody didn't knew about the skip. Or maybe it got fixed.

>>166028749
It got fixed.

>Antibirth
>Birthright on Eve
IT'S A MURDER, I TELLS YA.

Does the Bible work on the Witness?

>>166029415

What does birthright do on Eve? That's one of the few effects I didn't find listed on platinum god.

>>166030209
Nevermind, it does nothing against Witness, neither kills it nor you.
>>166030283
It's listed on the Wiki.
>Every time you get hit, you have a chance to spawn an extra, permanent Crow
>This also applies retroactively or you get a flock of them when you pick it up, I'm not sure

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>>166030402
So, it turns Eve into Swain...? That's dope.

>>166030517
More or less, yes. This is what an item like the Crow Heart Trinket in AB+ should've given.
>Make it an Item
>Crows will now come to your aid and stick around

>>166030693

Honestly, the more I play Antibirth, the more I just realize in general how sad a lot of the items are in AB/AB+

Antibirth just got so creative, even with items that weren't all that great. For fucks sake, there's a one time active item that throws an eraser at an enemy and deletes it from showing up for the rest of the run. Then I launch AB+ and I get...more HP ups in my boss room pool. Wooo.

can you use plan c to kill delirium when you have 9 lives as the lost?

>>166031843

You can, but...Delerium's death animation takes longer than 3 seconds, so it won't count, as you'll die before he does. You need something that revives you in room, Like Lazarus' rags, which obviously wouldn't get you your lost completion mark.

>>166031792
Agreed.
>There's like 2 bad items in Antibirth that I've seen, some of them are really niche, but not bad
>Even fucking Rock Bottom is good, cause getting it then, something like Soy Milk means you're stuck at 1 fire rate

>>166028749
I'm assuming rerolling until you get something to teleport out.

Nice enough, but considering I got a build I could cheese the most difficult sections with, I was fine doing it legit.

>>166032219

>Rock Bottom into Soy Milk

Holy shit I need this in my life.

>>166032408
Unless your run is already strong, the all stats down is a bit painful at first, tho.
>Rock Bottom into Soy Milk into Eve's Mascara

Post items that you don't understand the existance of (as they function)
>D12
>Aries
>Mine Crafter

>>166032643
>D12
Can reroll shitty rocks into Blue Rocks and poo, which can yield coins.
>Aries
Dude, contact damage, lmao.
>Mine Crafter
It's just a better Mr. Boom.

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Neat little thing I just found.
When I killed Monstro (during Suicide King, so explosive shots) then shot a wall BEFORE the death animation finished and unlocked the doors, the secret room's door was already unlocked.
I can only assume it does the same for other 'slow death' bosses.

Completely useless under 99% of situations, though.

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post cute Isaacs

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Why is AB+ so fucking bad, even by Isaac Standards?

>>166033493
Because Ed realized that he can get away with being a hack after afterbirth.
And he's still going to get away with it.

>>166033493

Where's that anon that posted a huge list of names like

Edmund "There'll be no fun 'till the ARG's done" Mcmillen

Because, basically, that entire post.

Edmund "McShillen" McMillen
Edmund "seizures are fun, not a 1 run" McMillen
Fagmund "Don't blame me, it's your PC" McFatten
Edmund "Game gives you grin? Item reskin" McMillen.
Edmund "Character's perf? Time for a nerf" McMillen
Edmund "it's just a bug, now give me a hug" McMillen
Edmund "Lower the axe 'til all items are lax" McMillen
Eggmund "I'm such a hack, I'll nerf the Sack" McMuffin
Edmund "you knew the cost of spoiling the lost" McMillen
Edmund "enjoying lilith? too bad she's killith" McMillen
Edmund "Nothing is safe, I'll nerf a year late" McMillen
Edmund "There'll be no fun until the ARG's done" McMillen
Edmund "If it clears a room, the item is doomed" McMillen
Edmund "If you're having fun, I'm getting my gun" McMillen
Edmund "Eat that steak slow, let the juices flow" McMillen
Edmund "open the hatch when you download my patch" McMillen
Edmund "If you're feeling gay, a nerf's on the way" McMillen
Edmund "If the item's a hit, let's turn it to shit" McMillen
Edmund "If there's fun to be had, I'll make it bad" McMillen
Edmund "Pull the nerf trigger on every demon nigger" McMillen
Fatmund "You don't know how to click, now suck my dick" McDonalds
Edmund "Think My Game's Thrillin'? Not With This Villain" McMillen
Edmund "Fun is worthless excrement, nerfing is my element" McMillen
Edmund "I'd collect unemployment before I'd give you enjoyment" McMillen
Edmund "That item there was excellent, now it's barely relevant" McMillen
Edmund "Your tears to me are like a choir, it's a bug I'm not a liar" McMillen
Edmund "they said the the game was too easy so I just broke everything because I'm fat and lazy" McMillen.

>decide to check out binding of isaac
>troll face bombs
>forever alone
>imma firin mah lazor
>JoJo reference cards
>dude poop piss butt lmao

is this game made for 9 year olds?it says that its released in 2014 too

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>>165997308
>Antibirth has Holy Mantle on The Lost
>The Lost is also guaranteed the Perfection trinket starting from the Caves

>>166034217
Mines 1*

>that occasional run where the game spreads its legs and gives you Tammy's Head when you're playing as Azazel

>>166034148
>Jojo reference cards
Tarot cards existed long before JJBA did, famiglia.

>>166035114
>responding to poor bait

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>yfw

>>166035612
I was kidding, please god no.

>>166035612
>can fire brimstones behind him and in diagonal directions
>eyes fire brimstones as well

>>166032267
It was merely going exit-> continue in the mega satan fight, it resumed in the start room of the dark room

does the eraser work on the witness?
because i gotta fuckin speedrun there under like a minute because of damocles and i don't wanna die mid-fight randomly

>>166036857
Eraser doesn't work on bosses.

>Mod character for Isaac is infinitely more interesting than anything steak's ever made
He's adding mods into the game isn't he?

>>166037163
Yes.
He ideally wants "One of each thing for each Booster Pack, but isn't above adding more."
Which is something like a few enemies, a Challenge and some items.

>>166037527
what about characters

>>166037587
Stuff like characters, special rooms, and bosses would be "more" stuff. If they're really interesting, yeah.
Just remember, anything they add is subject to balance before being permanently added to the game.
>I reserve the right to Nerf anything I feel can be exploited too easily

>>166037527
>Booster Pack

What

>>166037725
>ed is adding mods, something he can't take credit for, into the game
>will nerf them as well
>people will praise him for it
these are truly dark times we are living in

>>166037731
End of every month starting in February through December this year, Edmund will be gathering up mods and releasing Mod Booster packs as official game content (with some of his own stuff thrown in) with achievements and all.
>If the Anti team manages to get it into AB+ by the end of the year, that will probably constitute the entire final Booster

>>166037839
Welp, Im ok with that. They can't be any worse than what's already there

>>166037823
Ideally, I'd like to see them released as Mod Collections through the Workshop so I can just turn them on and off, but I know that ain't gonna happen.