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/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #421

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/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #421

BTFO Edition

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.com2us.soccerspirits.normal2.freefull.google.global.android.common

iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/us/soccer-spirits/id808137814?mt=8

FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wNX2ME3E

Friend list: http://ofo.jp/j/OgjO

The following players will have a boosted rate during the following weekend(s):

Jan. 20th - Jan. 22nd.
> Elaine, EA43 Haru, Jade Rakshasa, Sky, Verister, Duran, Jibril

Current events:
Sena Rival Match: 01/8 - 01/22
Helena Rival Match: 01/15 - 01/29
Vayne Boss Match: 01/20 - 01/22 & 01/27 - 01/29
The Roulette of Luck: 1/5 - 1/20

More info can be found in-game

Previous Thread: >>165819752
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WE ARE GALAXY DOGS!!!!
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>>165957008
>not adding new events or draw rates
Fuck you OP, kill yourself.
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>>165957264
I dont care, eat shit, thread wont live more than a day anyway
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Friendly reminder that dragons are both fast and adorable.
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>>165957008
Ravianfags is rare specimens. Bully vonchifags instead, Why should we suffer with them.
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>>165957529
This isn't shitposting general aka /@/ and /llsifg/
We're closer to PAD whose threads live almost like a week on the worst times
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>>165957612
>that could have been an epic fight with nera vs metatron instead

soccer spirits animu when ?
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>>165958159
>japs drawing anything korean
animu never.
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>tfw ravian is worse than sam and noa now
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>>165957842
>Ravianfags is rare specimens
But the biggest cunts.
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>>165958510
Indeed. Ravian deserves nothing but being at the bottom of the game for all the time she was the ultimate cancer and Ravianfags deserve to have all their investment on the bandwagon go to waste for being the ultimate bitches and dindus
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is scouting a cupie worth it?
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Kyoko EE when?
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Ravianfag tears

SO SWEET

Your bullshit cancer has been cut down again.

Stay dead this time
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>>165958510
>>165958783
What the fuck? What about sharr then? Ravian was broken only some time 2 fucking years ago. Meanwhile sharr - a whole 2 years. What about sharrfags then?
What about leventor, who destroys everything more than 1.5 years already and nobody gives a fuck?
Dont tak shit about ravian, please.
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>tfw ravianfags keep crying
>BB in an attempt to rest ears from all the crying try to """""Balance""""" ravian
>she ends up being cancer again

im sure this is the plan of ravianfags
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>>165959787
>What about leventor, who destroys everything more than 1.5 years already

Nice meme

Fuck off ravianfag
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Also, i think, Elaine is never going to be nerfed. BB just released DARK Elaine with almost the same skillset. Sure she will have some easy rival chains to be good.
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>>165959787
Ravian and Sharr were broken. Only Ravian got nerfed, she is now broken again with SoB because of Spawn making it easier to stack. She got nerfed again while Sharr is untouched.

Sharr is never getting nerfed because nobody complains it right, people should point out Griffith and Shanti only deal extra dmg to 2 elements unlike Sharr that deal extra dmg global and again against Dark
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>>165959787
>sharr to be cancer still needs 2 specific rare stones and elaine to reach full potential
>leventor needs a full fontline, good stones, good substats, and gambling magic to reach full potential because monothunder babies are too retarded to not use mono burst on him
>>ravian with lvl 25 was enough to be the ultimate cancer and have pretty much the victory after the second shot because of ai shittery
No comparison
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>>165959524

I wonder what they can do for her, besides making her "Red Beatrice"?
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>>165957223
Someone saved the thing I did, neato
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>>165960019
She's more like another Ernesto with her totem being permanent but lower effect, and we all know how good he turned out to be.
And about Elaine never being nerfed, that's Ardorball for you.
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>>165959787
>What about leventor, who destroys everything more than 1.5 years already
Are all Ravianfags this fucking delusional?
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>>165959524
her E form is already retarded enough, i wanna see some videos of her in action
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>>165960394
The thing is, this guy is ignoring the fact Leventor is A LEGENDARY

Legendary ARE supposed to be the best of the best.
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>hating on ravianfags out of nowhere
Guys can't you see it's the urielfags do this notice how there's no uriel post within the top 5 posts because they're trying to slander another fanbase
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>>165960016
>>165960394
>What is he talking about? Dont listen him, guys. Keep going, nothing interesting here.
Leventorfags already mastered their falsefagging skill.
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>>165960525
And still, Leventor isn't the best of the best with utility striker bullshit around.
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>>165960659
Fuck off ravianbitch, you deserve all the hate you get.
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>>165960683
Don't forget WoM Willy and Shanti.
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>>165960461
Unfortunately I'm still testing frontlines for her
With Evylin/Shura I used Shura's active pass active shot combo and did 2.5k to a lone 80DR Angela.
Doesn't look very good, but my stones aren't maxed and have shit substats, so let's see if I can fix this somehow
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Why SoB is the balanced stone?
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>>165960916
>forgetting sharr
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>>165960461
Yeah, i wanna see her in "action" too :^)
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>>165961214
Because it balances the game in your favor
>>165961289
Ask CM3D anon to do some webms
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>>165957612
>Criminal doesn't own/use gun
what a shitter
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>>165960870
>implying I use that whore
Why don't you just stop and start posting about your urinal.
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>>165961806
Guns are for pussies
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>>165961859
Ravian is a cumdump and Uriel is an urinal.
Both are to be used and thrown to the trash, where they belong.
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>>165961904
Yeah he is such an alpha male and a prime example of male masculinity by getting btfo by an anime dragon girl. Perhaps if he had a gun like an actual criminal, he wouldn't have been humiliated.
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Should I replace Guin with Karpila? I could use Lev ace burst still have 100% pen on Luka pass, but I don't know if it is worth it to lose 64% attack power for Karp and 40% HP gain. Ass will replace Nikita and I'm getting Bell in 200 d-stones. Any other advice would be appreciated.
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Is WoM Usable on Latios after these changes? I feel like she'll be doing no damage if she gets the ball back before the 2 minutes.
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>>165960916
WoM William is the biggest bullshit ever created.
>power striker, hit like a fucking truck
>high AB recovery and high heal
>high crit, high crit dmg
>now his own ace gives free pen
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>>165962340
>no crit rate, high crit damage
>no crit damage, high crit rate
pick your poison
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>>165962153
>implying that being defeated by a being with amazing strenght and mythitcal force is humilliating
>implying a mere man made weapon will even scratch the skin of an anthropomorphic dragon
Gun nuts are so retarded
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>>165962576
Human Dragons can only be defeated by one weapon of man.
Benis :D
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>>165962449
I faced once Latios with 380% critrate and 60% critdmg, 400 critical hits all the way LUL
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>two no crit shots did some damage but not enough to get her under 50%
>after evylin active, normal shot, this happens
Is this good enough?
Should I swap Evylin for Elaine?
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>>165962576
>Gun nut
Nigga she used excessive force and could've outright killed him. He literally dindu nuffin and was getting his gibsmedats. Remember that if a civilian uses excessive force on a criminal that civilian can see fines and go to jail.
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>>165963140
>you'll never defeat a human dragon little girl with your willy
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>>165963193
What faggot cuck country do you live in where hurting a criminal makes you just as bad as them?
My faggot cuck country does this, fucking shithole Canada.
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>>165963419
R U S S I A
im serious
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>>165963419
japan, usa and most countries protect criminals tbqh I just want to wipe the smug off that dragon's face by hitting her with fucking laws
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>>165963419
What the fuck canada does this? Just the other day I punched a guy twice in the face and the cops just gave me a bad stare.
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>>165963715
Only libtard states protect criminals.
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>>165963193
>Nigga she used excessive force

She was holding back. Even pic related is just dragons playfighting gently.
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>>165963780
You must not live in the 9th circle of liberal hell, toronto. If you aren't from a major city the police are way more conservative in how they treat criminals, but in Toronto If a nigger or paki steals my wallet and i sprain their ankle tackling them to get it back I'd probably be arrested for a hate crime.
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>>165963825
Good thing you cucks voted for trump
>>165963871
She has to go back, she is to dangerous to be in nippon land.
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>>165964024
It was mississauga actually, toronto is complete shit but seriously as long as you're not white you can get away with anything, just spray paint your skin and you'll be fine.
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>need another Klaon to EE VF
>spend 600k on scouts
>get Klaon
Thanks BB
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>>165963780

No canadian ever went to jail for shooting criminals. Some initially get charged for using excessive force but a judge always throws it out.

Hell, Basil Parasiris shot dead a cop in self defense because it was a no knock raid and they kicked his door down at 2am without identifying themselves. The Quebec judge ruled it was valid self defense and tore a strip off the police chief.

An Alberta rancher caught an indian breaking into his garage, and the indian fled o na stolen ATV. The Owner got in his truck and ran him down, then shot him in the back as the wounded thief fled on foot. He then called a posse to go into the woods to find him (rather than call the cops).

That rancher was also charged with excessive force but all cahrges were eventually dropped. He plead guilty to a minor paper crime offense that came with no jail time and did 60 hours of community service.

tl;dr

Canada pretends it is a nanny state, but we have some of the most based judges in the world and they always, always side with the home owner.
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>>165963871
that's probably how a soccer spirits animu would look like anyway,
just a add soccer ball in the background or something
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>>165964638
Based things only happen outside of toronto, my friend
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>>165963871
Sause pls
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>>165964943
the latest animeme from the studio that brought you moe anime
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>finally managed 40CoT

wew..
44 seems really sweet, but CoT is soooooooooooooooooooo annoying
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>>165964621
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>>165964842

There will be an episode coming up where all the dragons play dodge ball. It will have even more explosions and breath weapons used and launching the ball and supersonics speeds to KO each other.

It will be exactly like Soccer Spirits: The anime
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>>165964943

Long title but just search for "Dragon maid"
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>>165965437
DURAN STAHP YOU CANT TOUCH THE BALL WITH HANDS
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Guys, Jiho/Felix/Aiolos require 10 elems for EE or what? Have 6 5* and 45 4*, going to sell the low ones.
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>>165965103
>he'll never come back
At least he'll always be on my friend list
Good bye sweet prince ;_;7
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>>165965696
It's CoT Duran GK meme. It's ok
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>>165966280
Use google you nerd
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>>165965671
>no talented writefag will make a slice of life of cute dragons doing cute things
>no talented write fag will make a slash fic of erotic dragon doing erotic things
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>>165966280
10 ele, 2 special gatekeeper of the element and 2 5* swirly + 512k gold
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>>165967002
>reading fanfictions
Go back to >leddit.
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>>165967258
But I'm here
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>ShuraBalth is the best frontline
>Serestia debuffs CR after the patch
Dark nerfs when?
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>>165967814
Not soon enough
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>>165967814
And they even got a dark elaine, imagine a 4 man front with that new dark pen ace Vitos might be coming back.
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>you can use serestia anywhere in your team for free CR debuff
wow
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>tfw Jibril and Presty EE is getting closer

is it too late ?
what do ?
WHAT DO ?
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What's the point of adjusting only utility strikers this patch? Shouldn't they adjust all at the same time?
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Don't forget to send in tickets and tell them to buff ravian /ssg/
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This is the kind of things that make me lose my will to live
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>>165968571
I had sent them over 5 tickets in 2015 asking for nerfs to her.
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I love Uriel!
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>>165968643
assuming no pass, and a duran on the side,
that's probably normal..

id like to help trying her too, but i dun have her
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I love Uriel!
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>>165968643
What's your penetration?

I predict she get's an EE soon since she's coming up in draw again.
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>>165968838
Last one had active pass, none of those had active shot. Duran was there, can't remember that was there along with Silk
>>165968945
50 with only glab and shit substats
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>>165965437
Sauce?
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>be stuck on cod 39 for a year because only dark strikers
>get 2 new legends and change up cod team
>still can't win
>put a 3 superb sharr in
>win
fuck
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>>165969456
It's an easy strategy, though you should've had a secondary striker for those
>use a healer or 2 for atb shittery and have your frontline ready
>have your strongest active passer/elaine/striker in that order
>when you hit 20 minutes, use meiran/iggy/bd/jaco actives, choose 2 of them
>have a good penetrator in front of uriel, and debilitate her and lucifer for when you're ready to kill isillio and have full spirit you just pen through those and pass to your striker
>striker passes to elaine, active, passes to passer, active pass to striker, match is done
Easy
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JAP VOICES WHEN
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>>165970719
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>>165970719
Not anymore
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help
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>>165970985
Not even CG, but don't approve of that shit.
Git gud
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>>165970985
would you?
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>>165968571
Nah, im going to send in tickets for them to rework Uriel as a whole and see what we get.
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>>165971195
WOULD YOU!?
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>>165971415
Yes. Yes I would.
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You have one man/girl to genderbend.
Who'd you genderbend to waifu/husbando?
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>>165971747
zibroi
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>stacking active shoot caps out at 5 stacks
>striker stops using active at 5 stacks
OK guess i'll just say goodbye to my active shots after 5 shots

Nice balance
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>>165971747
This bad boy
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>>165971964
Good. You cancerous faggots are spoiled to even be able to hit as hard as William.
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>>165971195
>>165970985
>>165970719
>>165957223
Where the fuck did all this content come from?
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>>165971195
>female william is sharr
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>>165972005
Should have been a girl so it wouldn't be Dale and his harem + one fag.
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>>165971415
looks like laharl
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>>165972234
it comes in every few days.
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>>165971195
super bitch soccer jerk would have worked much better than literally sasuke.
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Reminder that Narane killed himself because he lost the battle for Lia's love
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>>165973085
/ssg/: Deviantart general
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>>165973085
Damn I haven't seen him post Lia in awhile either.
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>>165973137
You can do it better
>/ssg/ : Shitty Sketches General
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>>165973230
Go fuck yourself. The sketches are cute OC, that pic isn't.
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>>165973469
>t. narane
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I give up with Glab Kyoko.
Should I just go full crit/crit rate with her stones and use TB/2x ardor crit damage/thunder rec. pass?
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>>165974004
what the fuck else did you have on her if not double ardor crit damage/ardor dribble/glab?
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>>165974358
Exactly that.
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>>165974428
Renee/Elaine?
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>>165974554
Shura/Elaine now
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>game will die before presty drops to 900 ds
No...
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>>165975667
YES
It was fun while it lasted, but I'll always have these memories in my heart, of the game and you, /ssg/
Someone should buy the rights to the game once it dies and make a good version of it.
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Is it me or Balmung was made for Lucid?
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>>165975914
It was made for Ravian before she was nerfed a dozen times.
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im new and have lucid and william which should i use?
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>>165976697
william for ezmode
lucid for average mode
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>>165975802
I'll buy it and remove all inequality by deleting WW from the game. Ardor now beats thunder. The game is now not balanced, but all the WWniggers will disappear and all falseflagging and complaining will almost disappear.
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>>165976697
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>>165976816
>deleting WW from the game
>producing a mobage without the kemonomimi faction

Good luck with that. Kemonomi are the reason half the player base pick up any given game. The other half are there for the lewd demon girls.
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>>165976816
>falseflagging will dissapear
>when it's ardorfags, lightfags and thunderfags falseflagging all the time
KEK
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>>165977312
>sauce?
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>>165977696
Those are Rage of Bahamut characters
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I've been gone for a while, what's the current most cancer midline I can switch to?

Running Vic/Meta/Duke right now.
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>>165977919
You still have it
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>>165977919
Go fuck yourself
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>>165977919
If you have Aslan, you have the still ultimate cancer line but a little stornger.
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>>165977820

Some migrated to GBF too. Cerberus and Kitsune Yuel.

That art was recycled for another game of theirs as well.
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So does any club actually level this stuff up? I didn't even know this existed till today.
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So.. Does anyone actually use Sparky to get different weather resistances?
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So does anyone actually play this game except for me?
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does anyone post here? but me?
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>>165978613
Yes, I'm the Khirelanon
Guess that buff is better than nothing...
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Quiet evening before patch lands.

Can't speak for others but I'm farming elemental and have little to contribute at the moment.
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Are any of the females futas?
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>>165978797
No one cares anymore.
Seriously, this patch is the worst by far
A shitty EE for a shitty Legendary and a shitty faggot no one cares about
Another seudo Elaine bitch who's still obviously weaker than Elaine off color
Two of the stupidest, ugliest skins of all
And bug fixes and balances that only fix shit that isn't even the biggest problems in the fucking game
Seriously, I don't even know why I keep playing this shit.
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>>165978963

Utility strikers took a hit. That is good news to anyone who didn't exploit it.
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>>165978963
Because you love us :3c
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>>165979047
It's obvious they did that so people won't accuse them for being so incompetent as to not foreseeing it the moment they thought about that shit, it was obvious it was broken as shit.
And still, there are bigger problems than utility strikers that they won't fix so they won't admit their own stupidity
Just NOW they allow the cancelation of passes, thing that should've been from the very beginning.
BB is shit, new devs are shit and don't care, and I can only hope the game dies soon enough so they can all kill themselves
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>>165979295

What 3 critical things were you expecting to see in a patch? Like game changing (game saving?) differences?
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>>165979638
WW deletion, Jibril nerfs, and Light buffs.
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>>165979807


>WW deletion
They have never been a real threat in top 200. Do they even have a top 5 striker at the moment (Shanti perhaps)?
Are you really just angry at duran and/or silk?

>Jibril Nerfs
I agree she is potent but honeestly get screwed over by serestia fucking with AI and max hp much worse

>Light Buffs
They are still dangerous as a hybrid light/dark or light/ardor team. Most mono teams are still shit.
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>>165979638
First off, a real balance on legendaries.
I understand they need to make new legendaries broken to make some cash, but nerf the fucking classical legends too instead of overbuffing them so they'll nerf them again, it's a horrendous market decision.

Second, strikers in general are too strong compared to GKs without a specific setup (Duran, Silla ace, nerua clones, etc), and still they die too easy against most high league setups, even Presty is 2 shotted easily unless the enemy doesn't move due to atb/speed fuckery

Third, elemental advantage is fucking bullshit.
People will deny it because Sharr and Manugs clones exist, but they're part of the problem too.
How come Isillia even on her prime was one-shotted by Leventor and Griffith? Shit's disgustingly strong, and not only they won't fix it, they made it worse adding reflex, a still cancerous stat to the equation.

And let's not forget the obviously rigged stats on enemy players. All the infinite shu/gaphyl suicides prove they're rigged in some way, just like everyone with a Bell or superplay player know it proceeds at least half the times, while on enemy 90% of the times.

The last 2 points look like minor complains, but are concerning and part of the huge problem, instead of obvious single player balance issues that won't be fixed because apocashit, facebbok and reddit will send them letters telling them how mean they are for nerfing their cancer.

tl; dr game devs are shitters, and don't know what they're doing, as we all know, period.
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>>165980181

I take it back, forgot abut Kirin. that is pretty refined cancer but is really only dangerous on rainbow cancer teams.
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>>165980378
>but is really only dangerous on rainbow cancer teams
Which is, almost every Kirin team?
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>>165980542

I think it is more of a problem with rainbow being too powerful in general.
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>>165980542
>>165980378
What's the problem?
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>ww/dark has presty,duran,aiolos,serestia,baltheon,kirin,ravian,lucid,magnus,metatron and shura
>""balanced""
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>>165962208
I'm working on a Freyja to replace my Jury. I feel like she offers more to the team
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>>165981001
All of those characters suck
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>>165981001

>ardor surpasses all of that, and has no weakness even to dark
>""balanced""
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>>165981168
>>165981140
>t. ww or dark cucks
disgusting
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Is there any reason to run Cheetos over magnus for monolight? Dark gives you no fucking trouble, but Ardor and thunder strikers fuck you, so Magnus's attribute specific passive is a lot more effective.
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>>165981776
>Magnus
>Monolight

Anon..I..what?
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>>165981776
It won't help you against thunder since they both reduce thunder damage anyway, and it wouldn't be worth it to not get ace burst. It probably isn't worth it against ardor either since you lose a way to pen from the backline.
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>>165980607
No shit.
>>165981001
>ardor has elaine, william, sharr, renee, angela, kevin, victoria, choi, jiho, shu, gaphyl
>"balanced"
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Can't we just all agree thunder is the most balanced element?
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>>165983191
No, that's WW
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>>165983191
>Can get 100% pen by doing absolutely nothing except placing certain players in a certain spot
>Easiest to build monoteam

No
No it's not.
>>
The top global players are current thunder teams. Thunder is well represented in top 20 and top 100 overall.
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Can't we just all agree ardor is the most balanced element?
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Is it dumb to use midline Alice to try and counter chois or victorias?
Is it better just to use my own victoria?
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>>165983896

Alice couldn't stop either of them. I've even tried using meta in front of victoira and she is OHKO thanks to TB.

No dark player is a match for either of them. Since you are dying either way put serestia in front of one of them.\ and make the death worthwhile.
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>>165984152
If I had any legendary I would just use it.
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>elaine can even make hiro do damage
Wow, good he didn't have ernesto or I'd be ded in a minute
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Patch in how many mins?
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Ravian recall where???

They fucking ruined her
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>>165985242
Up your ass
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>>165985242
Never.
And good, she deserves all she gets.
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>>165985326
>>165985385
DELETE THIS

RAVIAN IS LITERALLY USELESS NOW
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>>165985443
Good.

Drug addicted whore should go end herself.
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>>165985443
Perfect. This is the kind of balance that we needed 2 years ago.
Too bad the balance we need will come by the time the game's closed, but I'll take what I get.
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>game is about to shut down
>the final patch is a major balance patch that fixes everything
>only 100 players will experience it before the servers die
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>>165985583
>things that will never happen
Game will die next patch, and it'll be shittier than this one.
>>
Considering how many people still buy legendary skins, I don't think this game will die soon
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Can you guys stop fucking complaining about the game and just play? The devs work themselves to the bone and do a great job with balance, but every day you all just cry about "op units" when it's really just your inability to create a working team.
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>>165985923
Hello BB
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>>165985791
Considering all the people that left out, including all those whales that get out everyday because they realize there are more productive things to throw their money at (like, down the drain), I don't think the game will live too much
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>>165985923
>t.BB Shill
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>>165985923
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>>165985024
maint in 52min
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>stuck in mid champs
>don't know how to improve this team
Any recommendations?
Also, I just reached 1.5k dickstones, what Legendary should I get, new or classic?
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>>165986490
Get a meta or serestia, your CM is retarded.
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>>165986691
At the beginning of the match kinda, but after that Metas just suicide against her, and Chois and Victorias won't attack her anytime soon if they receive enough damage.
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>>165981001
>>165983076
>>165983191
>>165983289

and esp >>165983425

i'm just a newfag to SS but reading this slapfight over and over got old. so i look up top teams the only way i could see how which meant i looked at the 11/20 with not moon names in galaxy rankings

there was 1 mono thunder guy

every other person who wasn't rainbow was using.... DARK

with 3 mono players and the rest using various dual color setups.

there were two rainbows with 5 legendaries and one with fucking seven. the rainbows were all Silla ace setups all(?) with Elaine. Strikers varied.

Soooo lets just agree that Dark is bullshit and give it all a rest or something?
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>>165986893
I love clop-anon
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>165986852
Nice bait here's your (You)
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>165986852
>chinks mostly use rainbow and ardor
Yeah, totally not biased not counting the most cancerous demographic and forgetting all the high ranking with joke aces and teams
Not even worth a (You) since it's obvious it's another falseflagging ardorcunt
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>>165986852
tl;dr of 11 of the top 20 teams:
one mono thunder

four rainbow though one was WW/D splashing for Kevin and BI but not using a WW/D ace so I count that was rainbow.

3 monodark and a 4th who had a monodark team

1 D/WW

1 D/L

someone tell me a faster way to look up top teams beyond friend search...
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>>165986852

An hour ago #1 and #2 were both mono thunder and 5 thunder teams overall in top 20.

Since then things shuffled up and thunder players mostly got pushed out into the 20s and 30s. It is constantly changing as most are only a dozen points apart from each other.
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>>165986986
I love clop-anon anon
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>>165986986
>>165987285
now ... KISSU
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>>165987167
>>someone tell me a faster way to look up top teams beyond friend search...

I don' think there is a way. Also when doing that be sure to cycle over to the real PVP team. A lot of people forget to do that and they see the wrong team, or a PVE team.
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>ded thread
Too bad Thor is a cheap worse Aslan, otherwise I'd try to be excited for her
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Light.Dark uriel team at #6 global. She is doing as well as ever I see.
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guy who saw bb's notes here
light is getting a female super boss
dark is male
ardor is male
ww is female
also the dark one seems broken but he's a long shooter
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>>165989593
That is the only thing I am upset about in this patch.

Thunder getting another dogshit superb boss
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>>165989854
Shut up
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>>165989854
>no trip
>no new ip
Sure, whatever you say senpaitachi
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#2 global is a dark/thudner team.

That actually looks kind of interesting.

Seriestia/alice/meta HP reduction cancer is carrying him, but the thunder aspect is a nice touch.
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>>165989593
Thor is good, just requires different optimization
>>
Did everyone already forget about the other superb boss Fenrir?

Looks WW, and it seems this new set of bosses will be based on Norse mythology.
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>>165990740

I seem to recall they made Fenrir a dude and not a cute wolf girl. I cannot believe they fucked that up so badly.
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>>165990865
They're the same idiots that are giving us a loli for THOR.

Where the fuck is my cute viking girl?
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>>165990740
>Loki will be ardor
>she'll reduce global spirit gen/healing/ab gen
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>Light has no good strikers
>Light has no good passers
>Light has no good CMs
>Light has no good totems
>Light has no good healers
>Light has no good goalkeepers
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>>165990230
#2 global only has a 12k TA team? The fuck.
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guy who saw bb's next patch notes here
light is getting a new gk
dark is getting nothing
ardor is getting nerfs
thunder is getting a new striker
ww is getting nerfs
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>>165990998

When the enemy line has only 500hp each and go passive after attacking once or after Serestia is touched, you don't really need a powerful team.

Seresita seems to be the most common theme on most top 20 teams.
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>>165990230
what purpose does Pinol have in backline?
never played against one personally
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>>165990990
> Bait
Here's your (You)
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>>165991405
>drains spirit whenever the enemy makes an action
>debuff enemy action speed/reflex whenever he makes an action
Literally there just to cockblock you from ending the game
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>>165991405

He wouldn't be my first choice. I guess he makes spirit for paying for asslad's long pass, plus slows down enemy?

I have never actually seen him ever put to good use, so no idea.
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>>165991405
Steals 8% spirit for every action, probably for Aske/Nikita long pass.
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>>165991150
Do they usually all put her on the side? I'm using the standard Duke/Meta/Choi line, who would I replace here if I got a serestia?
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guy who saw bb's secret notes here
light is getting deleted
dark is getting deleted
ardor is getting deleted
thunder will be the only element
ww is getting deleted
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>>165991793
Choi. Put him in front instead.
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>>165991904
As replacement for Elaine?
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Guy who saw BB's secret notes here
Light Dynames/Uriel changes in the Summer
Dark Serestia nerf, along with Lynbell buffs in the Fall
Ardor Nerfing Choi/Sharr with Sharr Recall
Thunder Jury EE in the Spring
WW Silk revive changes, Miho EE some time early 2017
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Boobies EE when?
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Why isn't there a player that blocks healing yet? There's a ridiculous amount of healing in the game right now and a unit with this ability would sell like hotcakes.
>>
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Why isn't there a player that buffs the team for every enemy going down?
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>>165993970
>winmore totem
BB is retarded but not that retarded.
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>>165992698
That'll only weaken monolight because heal and ATB recovery is their only gimmick atm. Without it monolight becomes trash.
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>ywn give vermilion bird his first prostate orgasm
>>
patch notes where
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>>165992698
it was supposed to be darks gimmick. If anything, with the current state of the game pre nerf Ravian would be balanced provided that it only has 50% effectivity in PvP.

Light ATB and HP heal is excessive anyway.
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>>165976697
lucid if you like sexy girls

william if you're gay
>>
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>>165997180
>affection in my thunder/dark team
neatoooo
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>>165997180

Well that is an easy nemesis to activate.
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>>165997180
>sadomasochist succubus
DO WANT
>>
>>
>>165997180
>Nemesis with Metatron
Wow fuck you game
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>>165997437
>loves ogre
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>utility striker nerfs break the game

indefinite maintenance
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>>165997180
>we want to make her for vitos and ravian
>only has a chain for ravian
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>>165998403
Where
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>>165998403
Vitos rudely gagged her and didnt pay anything for her, he is fucking King of Hell taking whatever he want, and she is only default whore-succubus who has chains with the same whores.
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New Khirel lore:

The finest warrior of Valhalla fell in the battle to protect the sacred lands of Yggdrasil. Being a warrior beloved by both friends and foes, her death was a critical factor that called the intervention of the angels. The soul of this pure and powerful warrior maintained its form even after being casted into the circle of reincarnation and finding a new body. The soul now rests in the body of a little young girl, dreaming of a brighter future. The soul of a once great warrior lays quiet, but it is only a matter of time when the souls would wake up in the cold iron city that reeks of the sorrow of the weak.
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>>165999569
Khirel is a girl? Is this some fucked up translation
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>>165999569

Is this a bug in SSherder or did they give him someone elses lore?

Is Khirel now a little girl?
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>>165997180
>That nemesis
>Ardor slot so she can also use EBM
KEK

BB you fuck boys you..
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>>165999569
This sounds like Thor's lore and not Khirel...

Metal city is metro city.. and Thor is a fucking Norse god..

This isn't Khirel
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>>165999731
>Ardor slot so she can also use EBM

That is my other big grievance with ernesto. He is a frontline totem and is unable to use EBM.
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>>165999816

Thor's lore is that she is a casino bunny though.
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>>166000049
I know. I'm just saying it sounds like it should be Thor's lore instead. Considering
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WHy is there another maintenance
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>>166000150

Maybe that is lore floating around for thor's unreleased EE? It is a data mined description, so who knows what happened.
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Game is up
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>>165999569
>inb4 lore of new leggo
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>old skin is back
Nice
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>>165999569
>>165999673
Not a SSherder bug, BB fucked up English text data for character stories, it was like this for a few days and they didn't fix it

Gotta wait for BB to notice it and fix it up
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>>165999569

Wasn't just SSherder. Confirmed in game.
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>>166000554
>orses skin so skin they had to bring back a good old one
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>>166000772
>>orses skin so skin
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>>166000657
KR descriptions fucked too
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>GK just used active block against a non-active pass non-active shoot
>Get obliterated by the actual active pass+shoot combo right afterwards
Really nice job upgrading that ai, BB.
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>>165997782
You don't?
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Tried Khirel a few times. he can reach the frontline and not be at 1hp now which is kind of neat I guess.

Haven't been able to test his ball holding ability yet.
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>game frameskips up the ass after the update
only the finest updates from BB
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>it was never out intention for strikers to benefit from the accumulated effects
might as well just come out and say "we hate every unit that isn't Sharr or Legendary"
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Beato buffs next patch for sure
>>
Uriel buffs next patch for sure
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>1000 points for orses skin
Still not going to get it even if it was the last one there
Glad they re-released hilde's though
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I always said that if Leventor became a cute girl, I'd consider using him. Until then he would be permabenched. Well, that day came.

So along with the other adjustments to my team, I was thinking of transfering my Latios 160 to Lev (I will soon have enough d-stones thanks to league/CoT) and use him. Hurts to bench Griff-chan when she had finally gotten her time to shine, but maybe she'll be back someday. Alternatively I can save the d-stones for Ask and instead save up another piggy and use 2 on Lev, tho it would delay powering up other units obviously. It's going to be a while before I can make these adjustments anyways, I need 8 more littres.

I was thinking

Shura Balth Lev
Cynthia Bell Freyja(ace)
Patty(supp) Serestia Lindberg Felix
Presty

So the idea is that Felix revives fast and takes hits, giving tempo. Thanks to defender AI he keeps trying to get the ball, hopefully succeeding thanks to high reflex and damage. Holding a SoB for this purpose. He should be very helpful against light fronts. Lindberg is secondary stealer and is a good penetrator too. Patty is cute n' stuff.

Though it hurts, I could go more dark and bench my waifu. It would probably be stronger.

Mid: Serestia Metatron Freyja
Serestia would probably be more effective this way. And I'd get use out of my maxed Meta. Serestia always on the opposite wing from Lev so the enemy penetrator goes through her.
This would give me room to keep using Alice in back, giving even more of a reflex swing. Balth would really have a field day cracking skulls left and right.

What do you think?
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>>166003854
redditposter I missed you
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Blade buffs next patch for sure
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>anael+ustiel
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How am I supposed to get 9000 points?
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>>166004497
>paying 500 crystals and 50 ds for that terrible skin when Isillia has very pretty arts to pick from already
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>>166004891
use at most 18000 ST, duh
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Bell buffs next patch for sure

it will be a gamebreaking buff
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>>166005602
Yes please
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>>166005602
Bell buff will introduce new 'freeze' status
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>>166005602
>Bell with Duke's damage reduction and Serestia's active
kek
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>>166005602
I'm fairly positive they'll change her active
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>>166001919
They always did that
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>>166005602
>"bell is defender now"
Here, i fixed your bell. Shes good now. Enjoy.
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>>166006664
>Change Bell to defender
>After Thor release
>BB: "Thor will buff Leader, change the Meta"
No
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>>166006664
But thunder already has Felix as their legendary defender.
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>>166006884
>Felix
>legendary
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>>166005602
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>>166006905
felix is a very good unit for pvp
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>>166007186
All Thunder players have universally agreed that he's bad.
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>>166007219
most thunder players are retarded, if he was a cute girl they'd be singing his praises.

he appeared on a lot of thunder teams and a few rainbow ones while climbing to galaxy this season, even thunderfags are coming around to him. the fact he heals whenever he crits allows them to have near latios levels of ai exploitation, especially with how often he coops.
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>>166007219
Stop talking out of your ass. Felix is our best CM and if not as a CM then getting hit in the face with the goalie.

Don't fucking think leddit thunder players know jack shit
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>>166007971
i was impressed with the backline felix i saw, even when i wasn't shooting into him he'd heal 30% hp to the team when he was penning to the front.
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>>166008237
But felix was supposed to be USSELS and weak like reddit said.
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>>165999569
Maybe it's supposed to be the new Aiolos lore?
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>>166004497
Now how does she do against Lev/Willy
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>collect gp event
>collected 500gp the day before for reaching 40CoT for the first time

eh... fuck....
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>>166008605
It seems like she's doing fairly well and it lets me run 4 mid safely as of right now. Might change once I run into some stronger whale teams though.
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OMFG
THOR IS THIS FUCKING WEEK-END

i can already feel the meta changing
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>>166009563
>he's not lying
what the fuck
>>
Khirel now ABSORB AP when attacked, does this mean I can use Duran to lower AP and him to lower it further by placing him in front of enemy striker? As it isn't position debuff it should "stack" with Duran
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>>166009660
>>166009563
Time to grind this fucking event.
Also, waiting for the vid where Sharr+Elaine+Elaine+DarkElaine combo erases Thor supermatch.
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>>166010718

>>165927646
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>>166009563
I knew there was a reason why my last 4 roulette spins were all ST!
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>>166010718
It works as intended. Now i cant just use striker against Khirel to lock backline. This debuff hurts so-so!
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>>166010856
>>166010807
Well, now some faggots here can't complain about him being """useless""" and not """good""".
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>>166010779
unless they come up with some super gimmick, a serestia friend should kill the match in one try
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>nothing new to be actually excite' about
Can we now have leader/defender that targets the GK for an 80%dr good for one hit or something? Particularly a bara/bishounen WW unit.
>>
Yeah Khirel seems to take a lot less damage when pen'ing to the front now

Overall not a huge change in his performance, but a nice extra I suppose
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>3 weeks to grind 9000 points
Is this achievable?
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>>166004909
> Not wanting her skirt to be shorter
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>>166011754
I don't really play anymore so it will be impossible for me. Shit game anyway. Come play /gbf/ with us /@/ /gbfg/.
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>>166011754
Skins are shit, 7000 are real
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>>166011825
>gbf
>whale game, better than SS
hah
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>>166011825
>btw i'm eop
disgusting, kys
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>>166012683
>implying SS isn't a whale game
>implying it's hard to be better than SS

They're both shit for similar reasons. Just wait for Epic7 instead
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>>166013035
e7 isnt gonna be released in english
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>>166011754
now it would be a good thing if this roulette event could stay
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>>166013270
why would this matter
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>>166013270
Nip games are fine because I weeb hard. Fucking gook I just can't grasp. Too bad then.
>>
>>166013480
not playable unless you're a turboautist
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>>166013752
>turboautist
Tried this with the gook Qurare Magic Library. I exploded.
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>>166013035
>implying it's hard to be better than SS
I used to think the same, until I noticed that almost every single mobage is aimed to people who are legit retarded, or want a game that is the closest thing to an idle game.
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>Khirel skin icon

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>kirin-rudiel-orses
>built to bully and backline all day everyday
The ghetto sure is dark and moldy.
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>>166013913
Ugly as fuck

WW gets bullied with shit skins, it's only justice.
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>>166013752
most mobile games play exactly the same, you should be able to pick up any of them instantly by this point.
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>>166014194
Yeah sure, but it's nice to be able to understand the dialogue and stuff, even if it's inane. I'm not autistic enough to still want to play it when I don't understand anything.

tho e7 does look very good. why the fuck wouldnt they localize it really, it would make good money
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>CoD Champ
>5* drop
>E L I Z A B E T H

REEEEEEEEEEE BB!!!!!!!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAT DAAAAAAAAA FAAAAAAAACK
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>>166013913
Has the smell of a fujo skin
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>>166013913
There's 60x60 and 104x104 versions on the site too y'know
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Haru now is confirmed SANIC, 140 AS with fullstacks, this was horrifying, jesus.
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>>166015361
Galaxy Elaines are topping it without any buff at all at 170 speed. This is balanced if anything.
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>>166015419
Have been in Galaxy quite a lot an above 2800 but never saw an Elaine at 170 without Milky buffs.
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>>166015419
Cool story bruh.
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>>166015419
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>>166015419
>Choi pass is not a buff
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Best Elaine I have seen in Galaxy had like 135~ speed without speed buffs
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How does the action speed number directly influence how fast the action bar charges? does it start at 200 seconds, with every AS decreasing the time to fill it by 1 second?
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>>166017310
/ssg/ said something like 60 speed = 1 full atb/3min
If this is true, just do the math yourself.
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Why Aiolos is cancer? Why Duran-Aiolos-BT(gk)-Jin backline is confirmed cancer? I CANT GET IIIIIIIIIT, sounds like easy 2hko for me or Ohko for sharr.
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>>166017687
just kill yourself senpai
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>>166017687
Not just Sharr, all the types of S.H.A.R.R. can do this with relative ease.

On the other hand, any other striker not S.H.A.R.R. or is a Legend would definitely accept the fact the WW backline is invincible.Don't forget to add magnus.
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>>166018059
Magnus is a dumbcuck ruining my games , replaced him with Aiolos but Kei only became weaker. Thats shit.
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>>166018468
It's because Aiolos is just situationally better than Magnus.
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>>166017687
>Kei with that backline
Are you retarded?
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>>166017687
>tfw Aiolos now gives permanent 12%ap every 3min
>>
Aiolos buffed to ardor legend status when?
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>>166019119
better yet,
make Aiolos ardor
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>>166018715
I wont use WW goalkeepers because they are easy to die against Willum and Sharr. Kei is fine.
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>>166019119
>wwcucks implying she is average or bad at all
>but they call other people falseflaggers
Talk about hypocrisy.
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>>166019335
Aiolos is literally balanced, legends are meant to be god tier, just look at ardor and dark.
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>>166018468
it's because kei is shit you stupid cuck
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>>166019410
WW overall has great legendaries along Dark and Ardor, difference is that their legendaries focus on support instead of raping.
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>>166019410
>incredibly broken against utility strikers
>awful against lev and the sharr clones
>gets her ee when utility strikers are nerfed to the ground and everyone will stop using them
at least she'll still bully wom willy i guess
>>
>>166020084
>and everyone will stop using them
Only a retard would stop
>>
Is Ravian shite now? Did Ravianfags kill themselves already?
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>>166020159
Post your utility team that you'll be sticking with, senpai.
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>>166020248
I am using Vonchi, but the point is that their CD overall is small and you still hit good with active shoot.

Biggest bummer would be receiving an active pass while the active is on CD, but the person would need to be very unlucky. Kirin and Vann with their strong kit are probably barely affected.

>>166020215
Ravian won't be able to CA and shoot bullshit and finish matches easily in monodark, which is good.
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>>166020379
Of course you're gonna downplay the change when you're using Vonchi. He's by far the least hurt by it
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>tfw Aiolos EE in backline can make enemy Damien insanely strong

truly
Darkball
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>>166020534
>tfw everything was planned for the ascension of Damien
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>>166020534
Damien can do nothing without his best friend Celus also having EDGY fashion and long hairs.
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>>166020612
What fucking stone would you even use on Frontline Celus?
BoS?
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>>166020379
Kirin is absolutely affected since his entire game plan is having his frontline steal the ball so he can shoot again, every utility striker except Vonchi takes a huge hit and will end up healing the GK if their team steals the ball and they make a second shot before those 2 minutes are up.

You're judgment is clouded because you use Vonchi and you aren't used to seeing actives not go off because it hasn't been 2 minutes since the previous shot, it happens all the time.
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>>166020721
Reroll slot and use our another best friend EBM
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should I 7* my metatron? does 7* have an negative effect on my reflex?
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>>166020750
>you aren't used to seeing actives not go off because it hasn't been 2 minutes since the previous shot, it happens all the time.
Of course I am used to it, I play club matches every time it's up so I also use clubmates utility strikers. I can only see Ravian herself being the most hurt by this patch and Kirin frontlines normally rely on strong player like Choi/Rudiel/Orses to take the ball, so his shoot will still hurt because he can stack crit dmg without relying on active shoot unlike most stacking strikers
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>>166020887
It does, fuck bigball they cant fix anything
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>>166020921
>>166020887
Not anymore, they changed that long ago.
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>>166020887
They changed it a few months ago so it doesnt anymore
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>>166020902
Invest in one of the other utility strikers and use them next season, see how far you make it without wanting to kill yourself.
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>tfw have Vonchi and dook in bench but too autistic to stop using monodark.
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>>166021351
Autism is magic~
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LUL
Bigball cant rework Shu properly so they just nerfed his Effloresce giving it wording "on first action" instead of "every action" and noticed in patchnotes """"""this isnt nerf, guys"""""
Well done, easy money bait. All those whales must be mad now.
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Who should I put FTS on?
Also PoME or Ermaltion on BT and should I use Saramir or Miho?
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>>166021407
Whoever instantly bought him is stupid, it would obviously get changed
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>>166021407
Literally nowhere in the patch notes does it say "this isnt a nerf"

They said: This is a bug fix, but we apologize for the fact that Shu users may accept this as a nerf.
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>>166021565
Everyone were sure about fixing the bug when he gained another action with a pass, but they literally changed skill text for no reason without noticing us
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>>166021565
It was never a bug. You can't make his ability proc on every action unless you explicitly ignore putting in code any condition. It was intentional, they BB just didn't realize how broken it is, because they don't play this game.
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>Vonchi and Shanti fully invested, stones rerolled
I am thinking on investing in another striker, I guess I will invest in Vann as I don't have Leventor
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>>166021959
Invest Vitos, get new Succubus and Baltheon and easy peasy
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>>166022115
If I am to invest in dark, I'd rather invest in Lucid.
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>>166022180
Fuck off pervert you only think about boobies and cute grills get a life keklel
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>>166022463
> you only think about boobies
>implying I am gonna waste my littres with Vitos when Lucid is a lot better and can reliable crit with SoB + solo shoot
Step up your e-sports
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>>166022545
SoB? The most balanced stone in game, yeah, and who is e-sports here?
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>>166017485
This obviously isn't true. the cap is 170, so there must be diminishing returns. elaine getting 6 actions a minute seems a bit silly.
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Has anyone tested Khirel? Is he stronger than before or was it just a useless buff like Jin's?
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Beat a Jibril team, feels fuckin amazing
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>>166023493
I saw a Khriel pen a Choi for 2k
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>>166023493
my khirel used to have have problems penning choi but now just stomps him.
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>a whirlwinds club member adds me
>uses wlliam ace
>only ww players on his team are duran and jin
But remember, WW is cancer
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>>166023589
>>166023574
CHOI BUFFS WHEN??????
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>>166023574
>>166023589
Nice
Should I get an EC for him?
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>>166023493
put him in front of a striker, he absorbs a shit ton of damage
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>>166021407
He lost 40% crit dam big fucking deal
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>>166023845
How does that work?
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>>166021407
>shufags complain he's too weak
>shufags complain he got strong and was barely nerfed because he's not as strong but still pretty strong
Damn, these bitches are fucking annoying
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>>166024229
Just wait for the thunderfags when bell comes next.
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>>166024131
Like Damien. Steals damage for and action. My Willum had 3.7k dribble, i put him against Khirel, was ready for Jin ohko, but then 3,7k reduced to 2,9k, that was disgusting.
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>>166024131
it takes the final value before the shot then absorbs it and reduces the damage by that amount.

getting rid of 30% of 4k dribble negates a lot of damage.
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>>166021407
Stfu he's still plenty strong

fucking crybaby
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>>166023754
I dunno it was a club battle against some gookaboo whales
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>>166024285
>>166024346

Too bad I don't have much space for Khirel in my backline
It's already too crowded with Kevin, BI, Alice and Kiki.
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>>166024285
>waaaaaaaaaah can't OHKO
William babies, everyone.
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>>166024346
Does this mean Duran/Khirel backline will be a thing now?
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>>166024353
Ardorfags are like Thunderfags
It's either ridiculously broken or it may as well not exist.
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>>166024562
I'm pretty sure he's complaining that they didn't say it not that he got nerfed.

BB went for the fix that could be implemented easiest and they still claim that the original intention was a bug and not massive incompetence.
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So Khirel is going to get nerfed. I know they didn't think about this in their """testing""". At least I hope not.
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>>166024826
No, shut the fuck up Shufag
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>>166024826
In away games just don't aim at him like you do against Silk or Aiolos.

>yfw ww backline you either shoot khirel,aiolos or khirel now
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>>166021486
Anybody?
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>>166024808
Look nerd the bug was that triggering effect 2 made effect 1 happen too.

Fucking ardor faggots wanting all that shit
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>>166024826
dude if Serestia didn't get nerfed Khirel surely won't
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>>166024826
They don't test a shit. If they did, the patch before this wouldn't be completely broken. They just put things out there and hope it works.
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>>166024826
>khirel
>nerfs
What kind of loser thinks it's a big deal?
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>>166024892
Anon WW backline now has Khirel, Aiolos, Duran, and Jin as defensive legends. Nah man they need to fix Khirel the same way they fixed Robin. Or did you fucks forget about that.
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>>166025054
>Or did you fucks forget about that
Yeah I just started playing when Robin got recalled
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>>166025054
>duke and beth are not only tanky but penetrate everything in a single shot
>khirel isn't allowed to decrease a little damage while also doing damage
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>>166025054
I hope they just buff Robin to do what Khirel does. It would give people a reason the best skin in the game.
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>>166025246
He can decrease damage but only to himself. This is exactly the same shit that happened with Robins passive.

30% damage is a shitload off a striker. Shut the fuck up WW babby.
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>>166025246
>little
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>>166024826
Khirel is literally fine, stop being shit at the game

t. thunderfag
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>comparing khirel with robin pre fix
>30% attack is now comparable with 50% attack, 30cr and 50 crit damage resistance
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>>166025619
30% Attack off the final amount you fucking retard.

Robin took away 50% crit damage. His attack debuff goes beforehand. Its not the same as Khirel its actually way worse.
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>>166025619
Shh, Im enjoying this.
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Khirel standing in front of the GK to take the shot isn't putting khirel to effective use though.

Any striker in the game is faster than him, and he will be a perpetually dead attacker. I suppose at any time he can revive and break out through the striker, but usually he is on a backline to cut down Elaine or choi.
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>people are this delusional

robin and khirel are entirely different,

robin was supposed to get 50% crit damage resistance only for himself when shot at,

khirel is supposed to STEAL the attack of the attacking player,lowering his strenght

who would they fix it ?
"lower the attack of the attacker but only for khirel" ?"!??!?!?!?!?!?!

they need to change the skill, they won't
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>>166026031
You just gave me an Idea
Aiolos
Too bad I still need Duran to make it worth the effort and not die like a shitter
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>>166026095
how would they*
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>>166026095
>"lower the attack of the attacker but only for khirel" ?

Exactly. The same fucking way Robins passive only works for him
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>>166026095
>khirel's skill always reduced enemy DR attacking khirel or on khirel penetrating
Why would it be different if that's how it always worked?
And why so much bitching? Considering how they remade Serestia, Shu and Baltheon he could've been a literal game breaker, it's still a minor buff for a legend.
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>>166026403
>minor
That word again

30% damage reduction from the FINAL amount is not minor.
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>>166026403
>And why so much bitching?
Thunderfags, Khirel as you said haven't got anything extreme compared to Shu,Serestia and Balth.
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>>166026462
>implying it'll make a difference on 200< crit damage and 300< crit players
I can see Leventorfags complaining because compared to other strikers his higher stat is dribble, but again, he has the pen to sustain his damage on crit.
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>>166026462
>30% damage reduction from the FINAL amount is not minor.
>but Serestia teamwide paralysis is okay
>but Serestia cheesing everything while suciding is okay
>but Serestia lowering enemy GK by farting is okay while the guy runs a ShuraBalth frontline
Very interesting how people in /ssg/ post, barely saw bitching about her but people are now into Khirel.
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Shura/Choi/Kirin frontline and choi is holding the ball

>My Kiki tries to steal from choi and takes 1900 damage
>Khirel tries to steal and takes 1800 damage
>Duran tries to steal and takes 2200 damage
>Silk tries to steal and also explodes
>Choi takes an unassisted shot on unprotected jin for 3.3k damage

This was my worst loss in the past 6 months.

Why are people complaining about Khirel again? Choi can solo and entire team by himself at 1hp.
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>>166026630
And people still think ww bullying isn't real?
Seriously, whenever ww gets anything marginally good there's a gigantic sandstorm, but with every other element it's ok to have broken shit.
This is why you can't take shit seriously from here.
And way less from apocashit and plebbit since all of them are over sensitive thunderbabies
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>>166026228
BB can't write complicated programming like that.
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>>166026594
>Leventor
>Higher stat is dribble

Lol you're an idiot.

Also it takes 30% off the top so Base + Buffs + Active pass.

It steals 30% from that.
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>>166026807
William does the same to me, my defenders have way more reflex then him and he's got 0 CAR am I doing something wrong?
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>>166026462
It's not called "WWball" for nothing.
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>>166026807
>>166026918
HAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK YOU WWNIGGER YOU KILL YOUR CANCER SHIT BROKEN BITCH
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>>166026630
No one said Serestia was okay you retard.

People have been bitching about her since her buff. Including me.
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>>166026841
A good comparison: thundercucks are loud as faggots on twitter.

That's why when WW gets something it seem like a majority of people are crying.
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>>166026228
robin passive works only on him because is just a buff to himself, (gives 50% crit damage resistance to robin, not lower the enemy one)

khirel is made to "steal" power from the attacker,debuffing his dribble, clearly lowering damage on every co-op and gk as consequence,

know what ?
they could fix him by making it so the skill doesn't work when shot at.
will they tho ?
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GUYS
GUYS
GUYS
KHIREL STEAL 30 FUCKING PERCENT OF THE TOTAL DAMAGE
30
FUCKING
PERCENT
MY SHARR DOES LITERALLY NO DAMAGE WITHOUT THAT 30 PERCENT
WW NERFS FUCKING WHEN
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>>166026987
Robin used to take 50% crit damage before they nerfed/"fixed"him.

Its why he got a recall.

Its the same shit only Khirel is worse since he steals 30% off the final amount.
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>mfw thunderfags are at it again
Wouldn't doubt you guys consider Griffith and Blade material
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>>166027195
FUCK OFF WWNIGGERWHORE FUCKING BROKEN BITCH ASS BITCH GIVE ME BACK MY 30 PERCENT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>166026918

The surviving at 1hp and killing an entire team is an ardor specialty. Choi is about twice as powerful as William when holding the ball because he has higher reflex and higher damage. No player in the game can safely pen him if he has moved once or got his active off.

Most kirin players are cheesing wins by abusing Choi exactly like this.
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>>166027264
DON'T REEEE AT ME YOU FAGGOT

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>can't shoot at aiolos
>can't shoot at silk
>can't shoot at khirel
Thanks Whirlball
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>>166027324
>ww using MY BALANCED ARDOR UNITS
Reminder that WW must be deleted
30 FUCKING PERCENT IS TOO STRONG
PARALYSIS IS SHIT ALONG WITH THAT
AIOLOS IS BROKEN TOO MY LATIOS CAN'T EVEN DO DAMAGE WITH HER FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU BB MORE LIKE SUCK WWBALLS
SILK TOO INFINITE SILK AND LITERALLY NEVER DIES MIGHT AS WELL MAKE HER GK SHIT FUCK HER TOO
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Why is everyone complaining about Khirel? Its not like WWfags can afford to replace anyone in a Kiki/Duran/Magnus/Silk/Aiolos backline.
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>>166027451

Choi can just stand in frontline and kill them all instantly. Why bother shooting?
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>>166027714
>ww has FIVE UNITS IN A BACKLINE WITHOUT EVEN COUNTING THE GK
FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>166027714
WWfags also dislike to use him because he is a male, they are dumb enough to handcap themselves
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>>166027729
>something else is broken so we are allowed to be broken
WWniggers everyone.
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>>166027906
>ww
>broken
>when every other element but thunder is way stronger
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>>166027714
Khirel now provides damage to your entire team white also reducing damage to your GK, you're benching one of those units for him if you're not retarded.
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>>166027714

>WW can just use Saramir/Kiki/Duran/Silk/magnus/Khirel/Ailos/Aslan/Jin/linmay/Miho/BT backline

Maybe one day they will allow 9 player backlines and WW will be op.
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>>166028075
>jin and saramir in the same line
What a waste
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>>166028073
Who would you replace then?
>duran is practically mandatory
>kiki is also mandatory if your gk is jin
>magnus is a requirement against all the ardor cancer
>silk is needed in this cr/crit meta
>aiolos while not broken very good reducing the damage your goalie will receive after eliminating enemy buffs and using her active
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I was testing on an enemy Khirel.

Beatrice dribble dropped from 5200 on the shot to like 3.9k or even a bit less. It was definitely under 4k.

I used to line my striker up to kill off break out threats like Khirel but I may have to avoid shooting him now.
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>>166028157

She debuffs line speed and pass power. By far the worst backline player of the ones listed though.
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Alright everyone let's stop playing
Khirel is literally everywhere so might as well not play against him if he'll kill every damage
Seriously
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>>166028298
magnus
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>>166027076
that doesn't change what i said, robin wasn't intended that way,
they probably either made him buff the whole line with the crit dmg res, or directly debuff the striker, no idea,

what he was meant to do is just buff himself,


Khirel stealing power clearly must make the striker weaker,
is most likely intended that way

again, if that's not the case they can easily "fix" him by making the passive not activate when shot at.
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>move striker away from khirel
gosh that was so fucking difficult
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>>166028497
You say he wasn't intended that way because BB said so.

You're an idiot.
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IS Khirel really the worst Legendary now? People will say Bell, but she will get real buffs.
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>>166028592
>Move striker away from Aiolos, Silk, Khirel, Jiho

hurrrrrrr

Also the same thing people said about Robin too
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>>166028447
>Khirel is literally everywhere

Until today he was a seldom used legend. Even some WW players benched him for kiki or magnus. Rainbow don't even touch him since they can just use Shu, Gaphyl or virgil plus duran and kevin.
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>>166028647
Then if you are saying pre-nerf Robin was intended
i guess Khirel now working like pre-nerf Robin is also intended

thank you
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Khirel just penned through my double coop mid. Any coop defense against him gets destroyed. Felix buffs when.
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Khirel just penned through my Elaine, my Felix+Meta+Victoria co-op, one shot my striker and then fucked my girlfriend while I could do nothing.
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>yesterday
>"khirel buff did absolutely nothing"
>Today
>"Please nerf Khirel!"
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>>166028931
Can't wait till he gets fixed just like Robin so more tears flow from people who buy him today onward.
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>>166028983
Khirel could always do that though, even my VF does.
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>>166028983

Khirel could always do that, even against a Duke/meta mid.
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Just so you faggots know, before all this shit, Khirel was only usable unless you used DStones to roll a dark slot on him and dropped an FTS on him because he was literally the Elf King of COUNTERATTACKED. If you didn't run FTS on him, you had him as a glorified totem and hoped he didn't make a game breaking turn over.

Until they give him the Shu "fix", I'm more than glad to abuse his newfound power.
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>>166029195
>Yesterday people thought Khirel just took 30% attack base
>Today people learn he takes 30% off the final amount
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>>166029505

Rush to galaxy before they realize they fucked up like with shu.
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Bell is a worse Gaphyl

Can't wait to see her buff
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>>166029343
>implying BB isn't overbuffing legends to get whales to buy them and later "fix" them pretending it was bugs like they did on shu
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>>166029656
You mean a better Cow Queen
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>>166029936
mhmhhm

wwhoreniggerbitch

did i do good ?
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>>166029343

I have been running Khirel with just a BE since late 2015. He was terrible before the big summer update gave him extra CAR on an attack and now he is in the low 70's.

His first attack is a double attack and reflex cannot stop it (if it does they just die seconds later). It is only the midline that can stop him and that is rare, like maybe 15% chance and he can go two weeks without being stopped.

If meta does stop him she is sitting at 1hp and Meiran or someone will take it effortlessly to the front. I actually prefer it when this happens as that is one more stack for Meiran and a chance to use her active.

tl;dr

Rerolling to FTS lowers their counter chance from 15% to around 6%. For that same 400-600 DS cost you could buy a new unique stone or save up for another legend.
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>>166030034
then he is either an attacker + teamtotem with FTS

or in front of striker, a teaamtotem, decreasing striker's attack
+ EBM
:^)
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>>166029505

Yesterday some people pointed out that it was worded differently than an attack debuff and that it would indeed come from the final number. Most didn't listen to them.

Stat stealing is different than a debuff.
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>>166030297

The EBM is indeed a good use in that application since he will still pen through the striker without any attack stones.

It's just the rerolling for a dark slot that is retarded for non-whales. BE or TB is good enough if you just want to use him as a wrecking ball.
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>leddit also complaining about khirel

d-did we just go full r-reddit ?
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>>166030868
Thunder players here are also active in reddit

t. spy anon
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>>166031017
>thundercucks are the most cancerous group
>reddit posters
I don't think anyone is surprised.
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Are you ready for Thor tomorrow?
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>>166031601
My Shanti is. Too bad I don't have a better striker ...
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>>166031601
>serestia friend
Yeah, I'm good.
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>>166031892
>better striker
>against a thunder team most likely
>not Shanti
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>>166030868
>>166031017
>>166031351
>t. WWcuckwhorebabyniggers falseflagging
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>>166032209
WW doesn't have any beef with thunder you fucking autist. If anything WW wishes for the era of thundercucks, so they can climb to galaxy EZ mode
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>>166032203
>>166032209
Shanti need a good Assist to shiny, I don't have.
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Stop arguing about game balance.
Everything is perfectly fine as is.
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>>166032917
No, it isn't
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>>166032917
t.darkcuck
next patch, when the ATB recovery on active heals is halfed, you fuckers will be impossible to stop.
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>>166033040

And when hp debuff is capped at 75%.

>you can use meta, alice or Serestia to fuck up their hp.
>you cannot use all three at once
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>>166033016
Yes, it is. Would you rather we go back to the OHKO era where there was only a handful of usable players and matches were determined by whoever shot first?

SS is better than ever now with a larger diversity in player usage and longer, more intense matches. BB is also buffing underpowered units and toning down overly strong ones every patch to keep the meta healthy.
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>>166034007
That diversity just got ruined by nerfing half the strikers. Give it a month and we'll be back to Sharrball ft. Shanti.
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Why does Kei fare so well against sharr compared to isillia? Isiilia gets 2 shotted, while my Kei can last at least 3-4.
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>>166034515
Fuck you and your Kei
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>>166034515
Post Kei and backline.
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>>166034191

What nerf? They have rapid fire actives and still do the same damage as before with their actives. They just don't disintegrate people when stealing or being stolen from anymore.

Also if they are somehow fast enough to get additional normal shots between their 2 minute nuke cooldown then those are normal shots as well, same as what other strikers have to deal with while on cooldown

2 minute active shot was not meant to be an always on damage buff. This was always known to be a bug.
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>>166035264
Don't lose your time with this, people are going to soon call you Sharr/Vonchi player
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>>166035264
Ravian, Irru, and Blade didn't need to be nerfed. The changes should have came with other balance changes to Irru and Blade at least.
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>>166035264
> They have rapid fire actives and still do the same damage as before with their actives
Most of those strikers specialize in getting multiple shots, it's a big change and the community for this game has shown that it will bandwagon on/off things at the drop of the hat.

The fact they got "nerfed" is all that matters, people will swap off them solely because of that. If they offered recalls you'd see everyone bandwagoning off instantly because that's just how the player base is.

>same as what other strikers have to deal with while on cooldown
That's not exactly comparable when those other strikers have 3 damage oriented passives, which isn't the case for most of the utility strikers. The exception of course being Beatrice.
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>>166035796
You say that, but as a retour
Kirin, Vann and Latios didn't have to be overbuffed.
And guess which trio of those posted here were the most popular, and therefore, a problem?
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>>166035796
>implying Blade and Ravian were weak as Irru
Posts like this makes me wonder what is the average PvP rank of people in here
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>>166036216
Dunno
Also, is the /ssg/ player list updated?
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>>166035796
>Ravian, Irru, and Blade didn't need to be nerfed
>Ravian

She needed it the most. She was always the most dangerous of the utility strikers (with the possible exception of Kirin).
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>>166034782
Why the Kei hate? He's best boy.
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>>166036358
N=I don't think so, Jkun stopped it after he left SS
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>>166036402
>people thinkg ravian is weak
>good ravians can reach 5k damage solo
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>>166036501
>striker deals large amount of damage on a solo shot
more news at 11
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>>166036358

I have not seen a new list for the past two seasons.
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>>166036559
>missing the point on purpose
>>
>could reach champions last season
>struggling in diamond now

i swear is the lack of healer, especially virgil and gaphyl,they work as healer and penetrator at the same time, using bell is literally giving up on the heal+atb fuckery they are capable of
>>
>made it to galaxy for a couple seasons
>still climbing
Any team can do it, just requires playing more games
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>>166037294
Post team to inspire us to just play more games :^)
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>>166037462
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>>166036918

Diamond now is champs least season. Give it two weeks for the bottleneck to clear.
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>>166038156
I can see you winning near half the matches with that
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Why is Thor so shit?
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>>166038962
Because she's an Aslan clone
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>>166038962
Because thunder is balanced.
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>>166038962
dude

she is gonna change the meta
:^)
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Khirel/Aiolos/Jin/BI
BT
How does this sound?
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>>166039197
Like a OHKO from any ardor striker.
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>>166039407
Against those I use silla ace/angela kevin with bi/alice already
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>>166039197
Good, I guess. Seem to stack enough CR and Khirel can probably get the ball to frontline
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>>166039062
But aslan really good in rainbow teams.
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>>166039123
My Vonchi that already has high reflex could use some extra CAR + Magnus ace combo sounds interesting, too bad now he can't have his crit dmg of the active.
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Is it even worth wasting the ST/crystals to get Thor?

I was thinking I won't even bother with refills for her if I need to enervate, and just skip.
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>>166021486
Help
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>>166039975
>But aslan really good in rainbow teams.

Only because she buffs the specific Duke/Meta/Vic midline. That midline at full strenght can win 90% of matches for you by default, and it makes up for angela doing virtually nothing in the back.

Thor is boosting less important players, or players who are already overpowered and would not notice the buffs (Elaine, Choi).
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>>166040162
just use a friend's serestia along with a super resilient backline. Suicide her 6 times and then shoot once.
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>>166040162
it may still be a good idea to spend crystals for the match, mostly coz is the best way to farm event points too
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Any other games like this but aren't yet ruined by powercreep?
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>>166040415
I don't have a super resilient backline, sadly.

Best I can do is probably borrowed Serestia/Askeladd/?/Meta(or Linmay) with Glayde.

>>166041019
That makes sense, I suppose.
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>>166041592
Only mobage I know not ruined by anything is TB, but it's too much for lazy faggots who love casual mobages
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>>166041592
I think SS is quite unique on it's own and it is still a generous game, though it was further generous at the begin.

Went to play some jap games and ffs it's so hard to gather stuff to make a damn 10+1 comapred to SS
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>>166011825
>gbf
>not the fire emblem mobage coming out next month
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWOcLSD_D1I
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>>166042061
Thanks, looks interesting.

>>166042086
Game just isn't fun anymore, man. It doesn't matter how generous BB is when only a few players are usable and every single team I play against are just different compositions of those players.
Besides, I'm not averse to spending some $$$.
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>>166042086

Considering we got the free legend at 30, plus multiple unique free stones from progress or events (two unique stones alone in 2016 if I remember correctly) it is pretty generous.

Every 30 days you get a free 5* (the equivalent of a free SSR pack in a typical mobage), plus a 2 week event that ends in a free 5* as well.

Once you can start grinding COT you get an addition two 5* every month. Best of all is the scout system where you can just grind for and scout the player you need at no cost.

Other mobage also require you to draw multiple dupes to evovle or power up your players. SS lets you use duple players like most other games but they also have scoutable littres that develop any player of any rank. SS is overall far, far more forgiving for players wanting to build a specific team without spending a lot of money.

As for power creep, old players from 2014 still get renewed love from the developers from time to time. Things go obsolete for a while and then a rebalancing occurs. Most other mobage power creep the fuck out of anything older than 6 months and never look back once.
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>>166043302
The difference is you need at least 11 players in this game to form a team, no other mobage requires that many.
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>>166043545

That is true, but with the flood of 5* you get I've never seen anyone unable to put a team together after a few months of playing.

They won't be perfect teams but free players don't get a free top tier team in any mobage very easily (if ever). Spending just a little ($4.99/mo crystal pack) is also very rewarding in this for casuals and can carry them pretty far.
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>>166044114
Not to mention, free legendary or one of the stronges tplayers in the game just for leveling up to 30, thing that most mobages don't do (i think, this is the only one I know that does that for such a low condition)
I kept playing for the generosity, and stayed for the gampleay and that kind of shit.
Now, if the game had at least an iota of balance, damn, this would be a nice niche mobage
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>>166044373
To be fair, other mobage also tend to have exponentially better draw rates for their highest rarity units.
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>>166044603
All mobages I played have abysmal rates, but this one is the only one I remember getting worse and worse by the day.
But on the other hand, no other has the exclusion system to increase the chances of a player you don't have TB doesn't count
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>>166044603
KEK like what?
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>>166045148
Like everything.

It's not hard to surpass the .001% legend chance.
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>tfw you're an autistic completionist

Alright BB where's my free legend for completing all this shit?
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>>166045486
Proud of you senpai
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>>166045486
WEW LAD
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I got Gaphyl, Elaine and Hildegard after 3 days of rerolling.

Should I keep this or keep rerolling ?
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>>166045486
>new Armageddon mode
>each match is equivalent to a 5-X Cot match with extra objectives
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>>166045686
>2 legends and good attacker
Keep it
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>>166045486
So slow. I did this long time ago.
But i did it only on auto and only for daily. mission.
Too lazy for manual this shit.
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>>166046032
>you have to manual it the first time
I can't even do that so I can't auto no shit. Kill me please!
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>>166045686
>still rerolling when this game is about to hit the bucket
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>>166045804
>reward is a pick 4* spirit stone ticket
I can see that happening
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>>166046691
Can you hit the bucket first
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>gg wp
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>just avoid shooting Silk, Khirel or Aiolos
>see this
very nice, but I am probably taking my shoots at Silk
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>>166044603
>To be fair, other mobage also tend to have exponentially better draw rates for their highest rarity units.

This is not true at all. A lot of mobage have limited time legend draws with a 2 week window.

Those same games need you to get 5 copies of that same card to make it playable. The draw chance is the same or worse than PAD legend rate and it can cost thousands of dollars to develop a single "current" legend. Within 6 months that legend would also be obsolete, and often they have event specific powers (deal addition damage and gain 200% more event points for using this legend in this specific fight" kind of bullshit.

Legends in those other games are also typically excluded from free draw tickets that you get from maintenance rewards or participation prizes.

In SS my Duke came from a free draw ticket. That is impossibly in most other mobage.
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>>166048159

>The draw chance is the same or worse than PAD legend rate

SS legend rate that should say. PAD 7/8* draws are actually pretty forgiving.
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>>166048145
Shoot middle
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>28 times to evolve a stone to 12
JUST
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>>166048531
nice meme
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>>166047813
Looks like Hiro fodder
>>166048145
Just shoot silk.
Are you so shit only 15% cr is enough to make your striker do no damage? If so, Silk's not the problem there
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>>166048159
You see, in my case, I've never drawn a Legend in SS over the course of 2 years. I've thrown probably upwards of 40,000 to 50,000 crystals at draws - I used to be a whale, and bought 9 ten chance packs at once to get Bell over a year ago. That's only part of my whaling.

Meanwhile in Dokkan, I've pulled 2 god leads off single summons from free stones. I've pulled multiple top tier 5*s in F/GO. I've pulled a ton of SSRs, and even Bahamut in GBF from free crystals.

I've whaled in none of these games, yet they've given me better draws with their free currency than I've ever had in SS.
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>>166048596
> I've pulled multiple top tier 5*s in F/GO.

Anon please. F/GO has limited fucking draws for certain units and you know it if you play that game.

The amount of money you need to drop to get those units is ridiculous.

Not to mention all 5* and 4* units are not created equally in anyway. Same with other games that use a similar system.

GBF also is in a similar area. The THOUSANDS of dollars to get limited units.

Thus far there is no limited unit in SS like this and I am thankful for it.
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Just met a CM Khirel with TB.

He inflicted 2k damage on any player that tried to steal from him.
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>>166049000
Stop using a thunder midline then
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>accidently left striker shooting Aiolos
>match is still going
>results of Aiolos buff overtime
>there is that nigger in /ssg/ that always says she is bad
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>>166049172
Told ya to shoot middle.
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>>166049172

>>166049289
i was gonna shoot Silk but i forgot to move the striker
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>>166049172
>his striker can't explode everything that tries to steal from him
KEK
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>>166049040

I actually hit him with Nera CM. She had 2000 steal stat and landed a solid crit at over 100% crit damage. This inflicted massive overkill damage on Khirel. Khirel robbed 600 of her steal and added it to his dribble which threw 2000 damage back at her, and he survived with the usual 1hp.

No other midline players has anywhere close to Nera's steal damage, and Khirel shrugged it off. That is pretty scary.
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>>166049356
>>166049172
Does her shit not go away when you kill the units?

Holy shit
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>>166048971
I'll admit that freely - I have several of the limited time servants.

My main point is that the rates in many games are miles beyond the SS legend draw rate.

And yeah, the thousands of dollars for limited units is quite a real problem, sadly. Anchira alone is a prime example.
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>>166049505
why would it? Edward doesn't
>won by timeout
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>>166049391
>can't steal a free steal with that shit cm
That's what you get for falling to ardorfalseflag
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>>166049391

Meiran, VF and backline kiki also had no chance unless they won on reflexes. All of them exploded at CM Khirel. The more attack power you have the more he splashes back in your face.
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>>166049632
>meiran
She only has a chance at doing anything by penetrating
>vf
She only has a chance at doing anything never
>kiki
Same as above
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>>166049510
So because you got lucky you some how think those games have better rates. Meanwhile the thousands of other people who bought quartz in F/GO case and didn't get their Gilgamesh's, Artoria, Shiki's, Jeanne's etc obviously don't know anything.
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>>166049584
>Edward doesn't

Like I would know this. No one uses Edward.
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>>166049901
delete
this
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>>166049770

All of them steal for over 1000 damage easily (except VF who is shit). That isn't the issue. The issue is the thousands of damage that splashes backj at you for the attempt.

Without reflexes triggering there are very few players in the game that can do it. You would need massive DR and low dribble, high crit damage so Khirel would have less to steal from you.
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>>166050025
I agree, they should just delete Edward
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>>166049831
But the pull rates are legitimately higher. THAT is what I'm arguing. Not for specific servants, but the rarity itself.
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Rate the most useful Superb Bosses
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>>166050853
Everyone but edward
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>>166050191

GBF SSR is like a 5* in this game. It's nothing special.

SSR: 3% (5* in SS is 5%)
SR: 15% (4* in SS is 25%)
R: 82% (3* in SS is 70%)

The really hot cards in GBF that you are looking for during an event are a 0.029% draw rate.
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>khirel is my only legend
>don't use him because he's garbage
>finally an excuse to use khirel instead of magnus
>i know plebbitards will complain so much he'll be reverted to B tier legend and not optimal if i want to not be a one-shot
I hate this mindless devs, but I hate more this retarded comunities that get the loudest megaphone and have the stupidest fanbase
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mombutt
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>>166051584
Delete this vile presence to the human eye.
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>>166051659
it'd be easier if you deleted yourself
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>>166051289

His revised skill is fine.

The problem is with how damage resolution is calculated when both players inflict fatal damage on each other. It makes attacking choi or khirel or William extremely dangerous, even if they are at 1hp. The person (or group of people) attacking them will all explode.

Players at 1hp need to have their dribble and steal stat drop to zero. An entire team should not all suicide into a critically wounded ball holder.
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>>166051584
Nope. Still not finding her attractive.
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Guys explain this please. Why Lololos have stacking heal ability? It increeases my attack power by 12% every 3 mins? I was sure this is the constant thing.
Seems OP.
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>finally getting elise
when was she created?
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>>166052328
When your mum was dead
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>>166052328
wait, my bad, i got her confused with celine
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Timed out for the first time in a long while. My Ravian faced off against ST Jin and was completely unable to harm him after a certain point due to Aiolos shenanigans. Ravian healed Jin for most of her shoot damage every time she attempted a steal against him, and I think the same happened whenever she successfully shoot-stole due to being unable to crit. Thankfully I still managed to win on points due to Balmung Lucid never critting me either.

Good luck to any Ravianfags still climbing this season. It's gonna be a rough one.
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>>166053165
Recall/rework when?
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>>166053165
Every match for me 30+ mins long now, bruh.
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>10
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Why did Thor have to be tomorrow, got no crystals or st saved up
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>>166055737
How come you people didn't expect her to be this soon?
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>>166056848
I don't know, I thought she would be next week earliest not the weekend right after the patch.
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So will you guys lose on purpose the Thor match for the event points?
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>>166057423
Yeah, too lazy to farm normally
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Who going to abuse thor to get those event tokens?

I am
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>>166057505
>>166057423
>>166058359

You don't get points if you fail the match.
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>>166058694
Since when.
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The swirlies with pompoms cheering on Klaon are pretty cute
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I hear a lot of people saying you can easily cheese COD with Serestia, can someone tell me how it works? Do you put her in CM to get rolled over or put her in backline and keep suiciding/reviving her? What's the best way to do it? Thanks!!!
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>>166058756
Since always
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>>166059139
You put her as gk and let her die

:^)
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>>166059229
I remember it working during Yeon's first run
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>>166059252
inb4 some poor anon will actually do this
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>>166059229
Except that isn't true
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>william is allowed to hit 8k damage
>khirel isn't allowed to reduce some damage from already strong strikers
Why are these shitters such cry babies?
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>>166059529
Same reason why Sharr can hit 6k without critting
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>>166059529
I've never seen any William do 8k damage to my goalie and I use Jin.

Fuck off.
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So newfag questions... these fucking events all at once are overwhelming

How do i maximize my pointgain for the event scout, I've been spamming 4ST elemental matches, they go fast, i haven't noticed anything else give a lot more points per ST and they don't overfill my lodgings which is nice. am i fucking up?

i mean the 10x tickets seem great, 5-6* box is always nice and the 500GP has synergy with the GP event I think? It seems to count any GP from any source?

I'm pretty sure I'm going to give up season scout, I'm at 336 points, should i grab a 5* swirly or just penguins to level up Guin and Nikita who for now I'm pretty sure I'm using.

pic is old team from 2 weeks ago maybe, things have gotten a tiny bit less ghetto but not much.

help appreciated
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>>166060529
>elaine/balth
>jiho behind
>active pass/active shot
Terrifying things happen, and I also use Jin
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PoME or Ermaltion on BT?
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>>166060663
Would he work as a poorfag's CM alongside freyja and Lynia? Jury is okay but only when she starts with the ball
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wwwwwwwwwwww ^w^
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>>166061196
>>166061196
you can burn your st where ever you feel like it but if you're rushing the most expensive costing matches deliver st to point converion fastest
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Thanks, Aiolos!
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>fighting monoww teams stronget than mine
>both are pretty strong with BT or Jin
I don't get it, whom is the better goalie?
Also, can I use Jin without Kiki? I fucking despise her guts and retarded AI
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>>166061871
If you have Calm Icicle, anywhere mid would be his best position
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>>166062206
Nice try WWnigger false flagger. Everyone knows that EC Kiki can mow down just about everything including Elaine with near impunity and can thoroughly abuse retarded defender AI
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Am I retarded for putting Calm Icicle on my frontline milky? She gets plenty of steals.
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>>166062341
>anything ww
>killing elaine
Hello black, my name is kettle, i'm pot.
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>>166053165
This is good. All the bandwaggoners can fuck off and only the real waifu fags will stay with ravian. Fuck you all.
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>>166062403
No, cause I want to do the same thing too, to replace my WoM
I've seen some other anons have the same success.
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How do we nerf Ayyyylolos?
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>>166063280
Removal passive only procs for Active Stacking buffs, leave stones out of the equation
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>>166063280
by giving jibril her EE.
Let us lightfags so them how it's done
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>>166063656
>btw i use SoB
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>>166063818
>implying
I have to resort to WoM's 60% crit for normal shots to reach a decent crit rate
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>>166062169
>needing aiolos to reach champs
>only now reaching champs
Wow, she's very wonderful isn't she
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>tfw khirel will be very popular this week
>in two or four weeks he'll have his attack steal reworked
>he'll be benched once again
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is there any unit that benefits from being under the striker
and no not metatron or jury because they're garbage in the backline
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>essence of greed
Worth scouting or should I keep looking for stones?
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>>166064828
Should be two weeks like shu.

Its hilariously retarded OP.

They need to pay someone who plays this game to actually test shit.

Serestia shouldn't be allowed in her current state

Khirel shouldn't be allowed in his current state

Shu shouldn't have been allowed in his previous state.
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>>166065462
Silk/Ailolos/Felix/Khirel/Chitose
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>>166065530
>not mentioning baltheon, jibril, william, choi, etc
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>>166065547
only 2 of those would survive a shot
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>>166065651
I mentioned the three that got buffed to stupid levels.

Baltheon passes more more. Hardly anything compared to the other three.
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>>166065776
I mentioned players that shouldn't be allowed in their current state, and there are still some more, like duran and duke.
Seriously, there are players more troublesome than Serestia and Khirel.
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>>166065906
>Seriously, there are players more troublesome than Serestia and Khirel.

Hardly.

WIlliam is only a problem because you can put WoM on him.

Sure let them remove passion but then replace it with some other form of bullshit. Or they could just have made unique stones NOT be in the rerolled slots.

Duran is he even a problem now that angela is nerfed? I don't have issues with duran backline anymore.

Duke too much DR? I guess

Jibril I have no issues with. I have yet to lose a match due to her.

Choi I guess lower his ramp up a bit?
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>>166065518
lolno
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>>166066134
>WIlliam is only a problem because you can put WoM on him.
If he self-heal was removed, WoM William would be tolerable
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>>166066771
His self heal means shit.

Its the fact he gets 80% action bar.
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>>166066771
ATB bullshit in general must be removed
Seriously, William, with one skill that isn't offensive at all, has the highest damage outcome of all the strikers, making him shoot almost instantly thanks to WoM is one of the most disgusting shits of all
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Legends will never be nerfed. It's meaningless to complain about how OP they are.
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>>166067023
Not the broken ones.
I'm sure Khirel will receive the same destiny as Shu, only one of those is going to be used after "bug fix"
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>>166067023
>Shoe
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>>166067248
>thinks that's a nerf
I'm sure you think Virgil was killed after his atb nerfs too
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>>166067329
Nope
Cause I use him in all his glory.
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>>166067023
Khirel will for sure get the Robin treatment

Khirel is meant to be an unstoppable force not the best defensive + offensive totem in the fucking game.

I am sure they fucked his skill up and or didn't think it could be used this way.
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Bell buffs when
+25 to each of her primary stats would make her perfect
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>>166067019
>Run Uriel
>Shoot faster than WoM William
>Make entire team have a need for speed
feels good man
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>>166068257
>100 damage crit on healer goalies
Wow, something to be proud of
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>>166066898
>means shit
>he normally full heal in my matches and AI stop attacking him
Sure!
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>tfw
I've yet to see max stacks but im pretty sure it's ~300/300 with Balth/Renee pass
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>>166068496
Your team is dogshit
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>>166068257
Cute moe moe dragon new series when
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>>166068604
Tell me the team isnt dogshit against womshit.
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>>166068590
Stacking strikers need to get fucking gutted
Their stacks should only be 3 times with 15% each stack.
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>>166069061
fuck off you have 60%+ pen and 35%+ GK DI
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>>166068604
>Your team is dogshit
>this is the guy's explanation
Wouldn't doubt you use a WoM William with such great arguments
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>>166069124
my striker has no fucking pen and no fucking damage increase and to top it all off my shitty striker needs 1.5 fucking bars of spirit to use his active.
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>>166069346
Hiro spotted.
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>>166069061
I agree
they should lower the stacks to 3.

And they shouldnt be called Utility Strikers they should just be called Stacking Strikers

Uriel is the only Utility Striker at this point.
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>>166069615
Uriel, Latios and Kirin can be considered utility strikers
Though only one of those isn't cancer and should remain untouched from the nerfhammer
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>>166069735
Kirin nerfs were really unnecessary
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>>166069735
Latios nerfs were really unnecessary
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>>166069735
Vann nerfs were really unnecessary
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>>166069956
>>166070004
>>166070040
Go fuck yourself.
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>nerf utility strikers because of their ballholding potential
>this is ok though
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Is Aiolos worth it or should I just buy Duran?
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>>166070437
>2,8k dribble only
nigga I faced some lucid that got 5k~ dribble with balth pass and 75% pen with good stones
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>>166070437
>Only 144% crit damage

Yeah thats fine

Meanwhile the bora above has 271%
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>khirel tries to penetrate my midline silk
>he loses the ball
>fighting club match
>enemy khirel tries to penetrate bell
>he loses the ball
There's your new broken ultimate penetrator
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>>166070437
She could hold my balls anytime tbqh.
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>>166070927
Good one. Retard
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>>166068590
>271% crit dmg

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>OHKO'd Zap's Jin through active block
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>>166071397
>YFW Khirel would steal 1700 dribble
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>>166071024
Whatever you say thunderbaby
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>>166071495
Remember, having strikers be able to one shot gks is A-OK
Having a player reduce their attacks is broken
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>>166071653
>OHKO

Its not 2015 anymore man
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>>166071781

About 1/3 of my wins this week were OHKO, and I am currently at 2400.

Several strikers can OHKO still, and they do it with normal 3-man fronts.
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do you lose striker active stacks if they get KOd after the change?
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>>166071858
Who vs who.

I'm not talking about some Leventor OHKO an isillia.

There isn't any striker that will OHKO every goalie like there used to be.
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>>166072589
70% pen William with Balth pass may OHKO stuff other than WW
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>>166071954
nah
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>>166072708
Doesn't even OHKO my Jin.
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New legend when? I need my Jiho to be 900ds
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>>166072589

>Who vs who

Beatrice vs any GK not protected by Duran (including two angelas).

Last ladder that just ended was 3/4 OHKO. It's not beatrice though, it is baltheon pass doing all the work.
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>>166073134
>baltheon allows ohko
>people complain a little
>khirel now helps avoiding being ohko
>shitstorm happens
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>>166073410
It's obviously thundercucks and Balthfags complaining
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>trying to do high score achievement in free match
>this happens

What is the damage limit before anti cheat kicks in?
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>>166073754
30k I've heard. Don't know if it got changed since.
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>>166073134
>Beatrice
>OHKO anything above bronze

Lol okay
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>>166073556
Its anyone with a brain complaining.

Khirel/WW in general now has the best defensive totem and offensive totem in the game.

You have to be a fucking retard to think this is okay.
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>>166074396

I think you are a bit out of touch. Beatrice was always good with baltheon but before it was never quite good enough.

Angela got weaker and baltheon got stronger. That was the biggest factor. Also more people switched to isillia or Presty and both of them lack the hp to survive that first shot.
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>>166074726
>kyoko is basically ardor beatrice
>i need him for her to be great
FUCK MY LUCK
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WW fucking sucks

buffs when
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>>166075310

You also need to keep an eye out for pen substat stones.

I never rerolled mine, but I developed a half dozen duplicates for each of her normal 4* stones and picked the ones with the high pen.

I actually just got this one tonight from merineko, and it was slightly more pen than her old crit stone. My bea was stuck at 98% pen for a while and this stone nudged her to 100% at last (technically 101.8%). Otherwise it is not a remarkable stone.
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Remember, THIS IS NOT HOW YOU REROLL VITOS.
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I want to sniff Uriel's unwashed asshole
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>>166079409
I want to stuff her with a bunch of burritos and then force her to wear a buttplug for a week. Then let her rip all over my fucking face while stroking my dick!
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>>166079409
>I want to sniff Uriel's unwashed asshole
This is my fetish.
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I have a purely theoretical question:

I come from the assumption that goodstuff teams are overall stronger (AKA have better matchups and use rate) than others, and legendaries are usually "goodstuff". With that being said, would limiting legendaries to 3 per team max be a better balancing decision than what we have now? Disregard financial merits, only gameplay balance.
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How do you counter the strikers that recover 50%+ action bar after they shoot?
It's really annoying to fight and I can't figure out how to beat it.
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New thread when?
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>>166083478

Presty
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>finally reach cod 48
>barely in the 1%
what the fuck serestia cheese is real
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>>166086698
>>166086698
>>166086698
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>>166068590
>that non-existent pen
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>>166083478
Stop playing
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>>166058694
you do, but you have to actually lose and not menu > stop
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>>166087156
>12k+ damage before defenses
>needing pen
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>>166087538
You don't seem to understand how DR works
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>>166087651
>before
>defenses
those numbers are after a few shots as it is, and by that point the top gks wont have their active blocks/conditional DR
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>>166073754
roughly 25k to 40k depending on the match i think
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>posting in this thread and not the new one because of the OP image
holy shit ardorcucks still mad about those buffs
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>>166087762
Who's to say the active block hasn't already cooled down or the GK wasn't just healed to full with all the benefits?
>green
>text
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