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i miss old /hotsg/

>What's new?
some new mounts and skins i guess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oD8DrPANfw

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Where do I find you reddit-browsing faggots?
/join /vg/

>Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20432204/weekly-sale-jan-10-17-2017-1-10-2017
>Current weekly brawl:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20477656/heroes-brawl-of-the-week-jan-13-2017-punisher-arena-1-12-2017
>Latest patch notes:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20407399/12-20-2016

>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>For new players:
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE [Embed]

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki

Previously on /hotsg/: >>165615019
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first for li ming on the big benis mount :DDD
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>Be Tyrael
>It's a 25 minute game
>It's even on both sides
>I start the with judgement on Le Tazdingo man
>I drop pretty low
>I run back and my Witch doctor traps 2 guys with His zombies
>I say fuck it if I wanna win I gotta die so I can explode
>Go in and into 3 of them
>I die
>Kill 3 of them and win the game off my death
Never been so hyped
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Lunar Ming's neck is too long and the skin tone of her face and neck do not flow together well
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>not even BIG LUNAR COCK edition

Shit OP
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>still no Night Elf Mohawk hero
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>>165768345
THIS.
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>Your second most played hero must marry you

How screwed are you?
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>165768607
>Chromie
>mfw
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Unimpressive.
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>Valeera Assface
>mfw
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>you now realize that Valeera's portrait will be next to Valla's
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>>165768814
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>>165768809
her face looks good what are you talking about
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>>165768631
>First Zeratul and now Valeera.
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>>165768607
>Gazlowe

well, at least I'll have money
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>>165768607
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>>165768893
He's trying to force a meme.
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>>165768607
kael must have a nice boipucci
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Vanish silences from the front, stuns from the back in first hit out of cloak.

Balanced?
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>>165769139
Depends on the cooldown of Vanish.
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>>165769239
3 seconds
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>>165769360
Then no. It's broken as fuck. A silence every 3 seconds would be bullshit.
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>>165768607
>Sylvanas
Does that make a necrophile
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>>165769553
Lore wise Sylvanas possessed the body of a living ranger so no.
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>>165768814
I will now proceed to draw ValleraXValla.
Will post results.
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>>165769603
bullshit
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>>165769627
You're a fucking saint anon.

>>165769715
no u
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>>165769472
Sounds like something Blizzard would do, doesn't it
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>>165769603
So wait she's just using that body as a vessel?
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>>165769627
You better draw good
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>7 abilities
>every single one of them is *stab something*
>people actually claim certain characters won't have enough abilities to become a hero

nigga what? deckard cain can throw the cube at you, it won't be any dumber than what we're already getting.
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>>165768607
alarak will abuse me
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>>165769779
She was a ghost when Arthas killed her and she eventually use her poss skill on a living ranger BUT she already died twice and her valakyrs rezzed her ass.
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>>165769979
No. Arthas kept her dead body to mock her, and she eventually repossessed it.
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>>165770256
No.
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>>165770303
Yes.
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>>165769897
>decard cain throws two allied heroes into his cube
>comes out as cho'gall like hero
>lasts for 30 seconds
>if you throw cho'gall with someone inside it you get 3 headed cow king
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>>165770303
yes
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>only two spots left on the character select screen (for AI/QM at least)
>1 spot when Valeera releases
Are we nearing the end, lads?
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>cheap shot
>smoke bomb
>garrote

I'm down.

>sinister strike
>blade flurry

Ehh.
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>>165770627
Sinister strike is a gap closer how can you not like it?
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>>165770626
Next hero confirmed to be some type of death reaper to finally kill off this game
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>>165770626
No, they used to have two arrows at the top of the screen that were void because they weren't being used. Guess what they for?
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>>165770712
>Not Mutilate

Mixed feelers. She looks neat, though. Surprised there wasn't a Shadowstep, unless I missed it.
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>>165770626

No. They've added like 40 slots since launch and they said they had hundreds of heroes on the drawing board. If theres one thing this game has going for it, there will always and forever be heroes to be added in.
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>>165770794
They could rename it mutilate and it would be the same thing.
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Her master skin covers up her fucking face.
Get another demonman skin instead of giving her a bloodfang skin. ree desu
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>>165770852
>HEROES of the storm
>Game has villains

???? BLIZZARD PLS ????
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>>165770794

We dont know her talents, but if shadow step was a talent it would be manditory.
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>>165770794
Have we seen her talents yet? I imagine a lot of the rogue favorites are in there
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>>165770934
the second color scheme is bloodfang and guess what anon, bloodfang also cover your face.
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>>165768607
>Zagara

Yes
YES
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>>165770934
The second tint of her master skin is Bloodfang, Anon.

>>165770989
https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/821024225318211584

Looks like we'll be able to find out tomorrow.
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Valeera looks amazing BUT it looks like we're never going to get Maiev.

FUCK YOU BLIZZARD
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No matter what's said, Valeera's skill set is yet another disappointment® by Blizzard™
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dashing through the poles
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>>165771503
>we don't know what her kit is but it's bad
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>>165771592
Disappointing doesn't necessarily mean bad.

>>165771313
I'd die if we got another Warcraft Assassin.

These tears are too beautiful.
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>>165771592
It's 4 dagger maneuvers, one of them being severely mislabeled.
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monkey king samuro looks seriously fucking sick
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>>165768607
Cho'Gall?
Is that even legal in most states?
>>165771503
She looks like a sloppy seconds mix of Tracer and Jerrytool.
Also what the hell possessed Bliz to make a Monkey King skin for Samuro?
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>>165771786
>stun
>burst
>silence
>is bad because I don't like the animations :(
Sound like you're just a fag
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>>165771908
>dota has monkey king
>league of legos has wukong
>hots no have monkey

>>165771979
>Dagger strike on Assassination Rogue was named Sinister Strike instead of Mutilate

Slightly upset.
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The dark eldar tint for Valeera looks pretty good
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>>165772108

>autistic wowfags triggered over nothing

I like Valeera even more now
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>>165772108
>bitching because of the name

kek
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>>165771979
HoN and Smite also has Monkey King
If anyone even remembers those things
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>>165772108
>THE iconic rogue ability instead of a meme ability
https://youtu.be/kdEYVy6BF0w?t=2m16s
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>>165772256
Hon mk is actually really fun
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>>165772551
Yeah, I'd have been fine with either. Seems like Backstab is more likely to be a passive talent that either increases basic attack damage and/or Q.
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>>165772551
>backing his claim by posting a meme song by a meme band
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>>165772551

Backstab is a passive component of Vanish. Bonus damage and stun if hit from behind.
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>yet another assasin
Could they maybe add some healers any time soon? Kinda getting tired of the current lineup
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>>165773138
From what I understand they are reworking a bunch of supports so they are going with that for now. Like Uther might be getting a rework when Valeera comes out
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>>165773138

Maybe in 3 weeks.

I've never seen people bitch this much about constant new shit before. New is new. Supports are obviously coming, just shut the fuck up about it already.
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>>165771908
>Also what the hell possessed Bliz to make a Monkey King skin for Samuro?
>monkey king has illusions
>samuro has illusions
>orcs are niggers
>niggers are monkeys
>niggers WUZ KANGZ
Easy.
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>>165773251
It's not new for people who don't want to play said hero, outside of having to deal with other people playing it
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>>165770754
They removed them literally one patch ago.
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>>165768607
>Jaina
Pretty good, it would just be better if it was tyrande in second instead of first most played
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>>165773394

Nobody asked you. Its a new thing in a game you play. If you choose not to partake in the new thing, then that's your loss.
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>>165773583
>choose not to partake
>costs real money or 15k gold or partake in
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>>165773695

>have to play the game to play the game

Wtf is this bullshit Blizzard fucking jews
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>>165768607
>Li Ming
oh yes sweet asian love
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>>165770517
retconned in one of the shitty novels for 10 year olds?
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just lost 2 games in a row because EPIC and balanced rehgar + thrall combo, the sad thing is the team trying to blame someone when the only one to blame is Blizzard and the guy who don't know how to ban
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>165773919
if you call wc3 a shitty novel
yes
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>>165774014
Who the fuck cares?
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>>165773993
aren't you enjoying the new content? :^)
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>>165773919
No that's what it's always been. She repossed her dead body. Where people are getting this other meme I have no idea.
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>>165773993

If QM, then who cares.

If HL, your fault for not first banning one of those.
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>>165774349
Oh I bet I know of at least one person, ponyfucker.
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>>165774929
Is time to grow up anon.
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>>165775091
Wow this is a classic reddit post.
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>>165775205
Wow this is a classic reddit post.
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>>165774349
>>165775005
>>165775205
fuck off and kys
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>>165775091
>>165775205
>>165775303
screencapped xD
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I just started playing last night. Enjoying the game a lot, which I didn't expect because I usually can't stand MOBAs but whatever.

Only real question I have is what's up with the screen after the MVP announcement? I click an arrow under someone and it... it upvotes them? Is that what I'm doing?
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Rag seems pretty fucking good from what I've played of him. Disgustingly versatile. W build is pretty nuts.

Maxed siege, XP contribution and hero damage on the few games I've played of him
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>>165775406
yeah, nothing to it
Its just there to give healers some appreciation for doing the dirty work
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>>165772108
Valeera is a Combat Rogue, Mutilate is likely being saved for another Rogue, probably one that uses Envenom and Shadowstep and whatnot.

Despite holding them like daggers, Valeera is pretty clearly using short swords as well. She's definitely a Combat Rogue.
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Valeera abilities look boring as fuck.
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>>165775406
The screen allows you to...commend people, sort of. It doesn't do anything. No permanent thing on your record. Just a little "I anonymously thing you did gud" button.

Most people don't even bother sticking around to vote, at least at last check.

>>165775524
Yeah, which is a bit of a surprise, honestly.

>ss
>blade flurry
>eviscerate

Oh, well. Perhaps Garona will be the Assassination Rogue? Figured Vanessa or Edwin would be Combat/Outlaw.
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>>165775558
What you don't like 3 different flavors of stab you with my knife?
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Who is after Valeera?
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>>165775690
kel'thuzad (assassin)
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>>165775638
Yeah, I'm hoping Garona for Assassination, Edwin for Outlaw, and Moroes for Subtlety. I'm honestly surprised Valeera is Combat considering it doesn't exist anymore, but then again she was probably in development before Legion, and they figured "Ah fuck it, not worth changing anything this far in."
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>>165775558
I bet her abilities will each have a different effect if used while her trait, vanish, is active

So it's like she will have 3 extra abilities! Fun as fuck! Shell out the $10 on the PTR tomorrow goy!
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>mongoloids need flashy effects

lmao I bet you cucks like avengers movies
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so will they make kelthuzad a specialist of some kind, or will he be another warcraft assassin
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>>165775993
Pretty much. Why else do you think Rogues have been one of the least popular classes until Outlaw? They were always the least flashy class, people for some reason hate that and want to see big spell effects go off.
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>>165776228
>Why else do you think Rogues have been one of the least popular classes until Outlaw?
The fact that you think outlaw is popular proves how wrong you are.
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Next hero is Lucio, maybe with DVa as a combo release
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>>165776332
I haven't played Legion in a few months, but when I played there were a bunch of Outlaw Rogues walking around. So that didn't stick I guess.
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>>165776228
>Pretty much. Why else do you think Rogues have been one of the least popular classes until Outlaw? They were always the least flashy class, people for some reason hate that and want to see big spell effects go off.

wtf man
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>>165776540
Well it was the new hotness but turns out being completely rng dependant is not good desing for a spec.
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>>165776540
>outlaw had highest dps on the dps charts
>suprised everyone played outlaw
Just like how everyone fucking loved playing fire mages
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>>165775739
What would his kit be?

Trait - ????

Q - Frost Nova deal damage & slow a nigga. Targeted not a skill shot
W - Frost Armor give a nigga some Armor
E - ???? Killing allied minions and dealing mana damage is toxic so who knows
R - Death and Decay: Psi Storm but channeled and deals X% of hero's maximum health + regular damage
R - Phylactery: basically a Murky egg
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>>165776758
I hope Subtlety is the main Rogue spec now. I fucking loved Subtlety so much.
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>>165776228

No, rogues have always just been one of the least popular classes, for whatever reason.

http://www.worldofwargraphs.com/global-stats/classes

>>165776758
>roll the bones

Mistakes were made.
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>>165777295
Assassination is the best rogue spec beating the other two by a huge margin.

>>165777371
Roll the bones is not that bad the problem is that the chances of rolling 1 buff are too big and with the recents nerf you have to fish for 3 buffs instead of 2 making it even more rng.
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Hm.

I wonder how many people who play Hots started off playing another Blizzard game, like WoW.

>>165775739
>making him anything other than a mage

Sort of curious as to what they have planned, though.
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>>165777821
Most likely a lot considering this fucking community plays like they hadn't come from other MOBAs for goddamn sure.
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>>165777821
>I wonder how many people who play Hots started off playing another Blizzard game, like WoW.
95% of the player base
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>a known girl streamer is in the match
>no one flames
>no one bitches
>everyone is trying hard to win
>every fucking time
ayy humanity
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>>165777981
>Not gitting gud in the original ASSFAGGOT maps in Brood War and WC3 10+ years ago
>Playing Doturd or lel or Shite
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>>165777821
Q: Frost Armor
W: Frost Nova
E: Rattle your shackles
R1: Sacrifice a Teammate
R2: Laugh at Maievfags
D: Sustained by Maievfag tears
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>>165776352
>combo release with dva
>not symmetra
someone is shit at ow lore
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>>165778251
Clickety clack, get in my sack
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>>165778265
>Symmetra
And how would her kit work?
Turrets that slow are Gazlowe's thing
No-Aim-No-Brain autismhose rodeo doesn't work in a non-fps environment
Balls translate well.
The flying shield doesn't.
Teleporter might work, Shield Matrix heavily encroaches on Tass territory
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Who else wants to fuck selenityy's face so hard she'd forget her own name?
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>>165778585
>she'd
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>>165778153
Not even humanity, just men. We've got some fucking problem with women where we act out and flat out change behavior and attitudes around them. They don't even have to do or say anything, we're retarded enough to make the switch all on our own. Zero self control.
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>>165778585
Don't know her, but her name sounds like an ayylmao thing and I'm totes down for fucking alien orifices if it involves tendrils and my prostata.
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Since we'll know Blizz is shit at balancing heroes guess te first need to Valeera.

I'm going to say an increase to Vanish's cooldown. Originally it's going to be 10 seconds and they'll nerf it to 20 and by the end it'll be around 30 or whatever the cooldown on recall is for Tracer.
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>finally release a rogue
>she's going to be more popular than Nova, Li-Ming and Tracer combined
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>>165778251
>Sacrifice a Teammate
If they ever added a hero with that ability I'd never play anyone else
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>>165778701
She's a high-octane melee spellcaster, my friend. No nerfs needed beyond fucking her waveclear :)
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>>165778585
She looks ugly as hell in the launcher but she's kinda cute.
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>>165778791
>Taunt Varian WILL fuck her over fierce
Now this gets my big human cock going.
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>>165778805
>brawl where everyone is kel'thuzad
>it's a race to see who sacrifices first
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>>165778251
>Sacrifice a teammate
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>>165778921
>Taunt Varian WILL fuck her over fierce
Taunt Varian fuck most of the assassins.
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>Valeera has a big long flowy ponytail just like Nova to remind you that they fucking gutted her and will never do a single fucking thing to bring her back up, and will instead only make better stealthers and laugh at you while you continue to give them money.
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>>165778949
Hah. I've had a lot of fun messing with 'dingo wrongs that way.

>>165779070
Not the beefy ones. Butcher, Greymane, Raggyboy, Thrall and so on all can handle a Charge Taunt combo. It's medium/low health ones that get locked to oblivion, like any spell caster or the stealth heroes.
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>>165778921
>silence and vanish

no stun for you :p
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>>165779263
I'm not giving them money until they release maiev
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>>165779583
me neither
(nah, that's a lie)
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>>165779583
I don't have a laughing girl picture at hand, but just pretend I posted one.

>>165779573
Sure. Theoretically, Samuro also just *switches place with clone* *Shukuchi's behind the trees unscathed*. And Zeratul also Wormhole's out. Or so they think until they get a targeted fucking shield slammed in to their ugly faces and stunned for 2 seconds. Characters with better mobility exist and get fucked by this. Your Vanish won't do shit after you have been engaged, and Lion's Maw can and will expose you if you try to sneak up.
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>>165779583
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>>165779958

cloak of shadows
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>>165779958
How are you going to use lion maw if you're silenced?
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>>165779958
>I don't have a laughing girl picture at hand, but just pretend I posted one.
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>>165780239
How are you gonna silence me with a 40% slow and your vanish on cooldown?
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>>165778491
>Turrets that slow are Gazlowe's thing
you could always have every turret beam apply a 5% slow blizzard would probably go with 10% or 15% to keep the powercreep running and have them do a little less damage than his turrets at a significantly higher dps rate to make sure his turrets remain obsolete

>No-Aim-No-Brain autismhose rodeo doesn't work in a non-fps environment
that's precisely why they'd implement it

>Balls translate well.
>The flying shield doesn't.
pre rework symmetra might've worked better here but they screwed that up

>Teleporter might work, Shield Matrix heavily encroaches on Tass territory
watch as the tass rework changes his territory for the worse
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is there more autistic hero than nydus zagara
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>>165780239
What makes you think trying to duel the tank is a good idea as a squishy stealth hero?

>>165780506
The flying shield is just too odd. A pretend body that soaks skillshots and projectiles flying through it? Sounds hard to implement, but might be nice if it leads to us getting Reinhardt with his shield intact.

>>165780601
Valla mains thinking they're hot shit and dying, yeah. That's some autistic fits waiting to happen in chat, and it won't be the Valla having it, that I can tell you.
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is sgt hammer thicc?
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>>165781404
Yea
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>>165780601
>abathur
>vikings
>gazlowe
>azmodan

We've got a few.

>>165780774
>valla spotting

Yeah, and this.
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>>165781404

sgt hammer exists so fat chicks have something to cosplay
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new Tracer main fag here.
I need your opinions on what bomb is best bomb and lvl 1 talents for tracer rounds vs Pulse strike
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>>165782742
Does enemy have invisible hero? Take Tracer rounds.

Ult I like further range and faster charge but if they have high health characters more damage is also good.
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Here's my drawfag contribution for the month
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>>165782202
So cute hnnng
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>>165782979
Are you the artist of Aeon Flux or something?
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Am i just fighting retards or is Rehgar pretty strong.
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>>165782202
>ribbons on the boots
That's cute.
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>>165782979
I like your artstyle
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>>165782979
Dibs on request Kinky for next month
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>>165783415
We're all fighting retards.


And we're all fighting the retards within ourselves.
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>>165782202
It probably gets pretty hot in that tank at times. You know she isnt wearing a bra under that shirt. Sideboob confirms.
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So, what's next on the leaker list? I've been out for almost 2 weeks
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>>165782860
>>165782742

Tracer rounds are also useful on maps like Cursed Hallow where getting vision on your target might be difficult because of fog of war shenanigans.
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>>165785504
I think Valeera was the last right?
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>>165785504
Order unknown, and Valeera wasn't on his list until very recently so who knows. Blizz is obviously upset over the giant leak, so they are obviously going out of their way to mix it up.
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>>165785504
Last we heard is "KT is being worked on" when the anon called everything that would be announced at blizzcon and after.
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>>165782202
Actually very curvy and muscular. Not much fat aside from chubby cheeks.
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>>165785504
Kel'Thuzad has to be soon I mean they showed his model off two years (!!!!) ago
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>>165785504
Mei
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>>165785548
Don't the Tracer rounds also make Nova and Samuro copies show they are fake?
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>>165786135

Indeed they do.

Generally speaking, Tracer Rounds is the way to go in most situations imho family.
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>Big Lunar Cock is going to be locked to a bundle for 80 bucks.

TOP GOY

>Valeera's going to suck

MELEE ASSASSIN CURSE
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>>165786576
>Does it have ranged poke?
>Does it have any sort of self heal or shield?
>Does it have any sort of Blink/easy to pull off escape?

If no to two of these, it is not a viable melee Assassin. Blizzard design lmao
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>>165786304
If there are no stealth/illusions, then the CD reduction on Recall is better
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>>165786902

>Bought Samuro before realizing this

My fucking ass still bleeds from thinking he'd be good
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>>165786902
>Does it have any sort of Blink/easy to pull off escape?

She can vanish/cloak of shadows/disengage to a minion with ss
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>>165786974

Not always.
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>>165787081
If you can't scape with Samuro you should just uninstal the game.
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>>165787084
True, she does. But lacks the other two.
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>>165786902
Just as a quick runthrough I can only see Varian, Samuro, Tracer (she's melee), and Jerrytool.
That's a pretty pathetic lineup.
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>>165786576
Source on that price?
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>tfw the only hero I find at least remotely fun after playing more than one game of them in a row is Azmodunk
Is the early stages of a maining faggot? I always mix it up, one game at a time of various heroes but sometimes I just gotta play Azmo over and over, back to back. Only hero I can reliably do it and always have fun.
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>>165787202

I can't win with Samuro.

Then again, he's not Zeratul, who's the first hero I've tried and absolutely adored.
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>>165787270
Is joke, goyum. Probably at least $30 though.
>>165787338
There's not a whole lot of shit to do right besides confusing the fuck out of supports with illusions and being where you need to be in team fights.
Everything else is just yelling at creeps to TASTUH MUH BLADUH.
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>>165787242
Varian has no blink, only charge and block.
Tracer has no ranged poke and no heal.
Samuro has no ranged poke or heal.

There is no lineup of viable melee assassins.
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>>165787442
>Is joke, goyum. Probably at least $30 though.
Machines of war was $60 right?
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>>165786902
Checks out.
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>>165787442
Do the illusions not look different to team members?
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>>165787242
>>165787507
THRALL
H
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A
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>>165786902

Zeratul is LITERALLY the only viable melee assassin.

That's a fucking problem.
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>>165787735
>Zeratul
>viable
Nice meme.
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>Rehgar added
>Varian added
>Valeera added
>Bearmantle already in skin form

Is there hope for Magatha Grimtotem as well? She was a pretty important figure as far as tauren are concerned and would make a great opportunity to add a assassin/support multi-class as well as a female tauren silhouette.
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>>165787767

Well, based on the

>RANGED POKE
>ESCAPE

checklist.

>>165787664

Forgot about this sick fuck too, but he's too popular. Will be castrated soon.
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>>165787735
>Thrall, Alarak, Rag, Illidan.

Yeah. Okay.
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>>165787507
Getting gud at Tracer fixes that.
Samuro's illusions are basically poking if you spec it like you should.
Varian's timed blocks do the same effect as a blink.
It sounds like you're just used to some braindead simple League mechanics.
>>165787602
Enemy supports you dingus.
>>165787664
Ah yeah I forgot about the hero that's all about hoping you kill whoever you facehump first before they tickle you to death.
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>>165787242
If Tracer were really Melee, she would clown on Raynor and not the other way around.
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>>165787875

>Alarak
I don't get this hot meme of Alarak doing well. Playing as, with, or against him, they just don't do damage unless they hit the token Chromie or equivalent. I've seen fucking Jaina laugh in his face and evaporate him. Seriously, haven't seen gud Alarak period.

>Illidan
Only edgy teens and super tryhards play him, so it's kind of a biased selection. The former sucks, while the latter just makes the game taunt you for not picking meta boredom.
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>just as we finish boss the enemy team jumps us
>i as meme'dingo nearly die
>literally 1% life remaining
>guillotine 3 of them for 1241 damage
MUH
DICK
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>>165788063
>my anecdoctal evidence say alarak is bad

>illidan is not good because hurr durr who cares if the best teams in the game insta ban him (koreans)

lol
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>>165788232
>taz'dingo
>guillotine

???
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>>165788063
I'm near the top of the damage charts every time I play Alarak, all you have to do his hit the combo and he can delete heroes.

He's also one of the best solo laners because of near infinite sustain and he punishes even the slightest misstep.

Imagine Kerrigan who didn't have to jump in like a retard, hit harder, had better sustain and good ults.

The only reason you aren't seeing Alarak more right now is because Artanis is so good and you don't want to much melee on the tam.
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>>165787848
Singularity Spike is the shittiest of ranged pokes blocked by creeps and precisely why Zeratul is not viable.

>>165787973
>Getting gud at Tracer fixes that.
>Samuro's illusions are basically poking if you spec it like you should.
>Varian's timed blocks do the same effect as a blink.
>It sounds like you're just used to some braindead simple League mechanics.
Sounds like you're used to playing in bronze when you're spewing bad theorycrafting bullshit like that.
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>>165787785

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/heroes/topic/20743695144#post-1

Like it
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>>165787973
Oh my bad. Not sure why my first thought was giving your support a hard time.

Probably because I suck.
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>>165788295
I trusted my team, we were consistently winning. It's still a shit heroic and non-AA Meme'dingo sucks. But it was the one in a million time it's godly.
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>>165788035
>melee clowning on Raynor

lol nigga just Q and walk away like what are they gonna do hahaha
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>>165788532
>implying Guillotine is worse than Taz'Dingo
He thought you were talking about firing a Guillotine while having Taz'Dingo activated.
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>>165788274

>Implying I'll ever be good enough to care about whether or not he's banned.

>Implying I'm going to stress the fuck out over ranked when it's impossible to improve due to bad MM

K

>>165788345

I don't get the secret, so I'm not wasting money or grindcoin on him. Getting him to 5 in real games was awful.
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>>165788751
>Combo and delete heroes.

That's the secret.
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>>165788751
>I'm right because I don't care nerd xd

K
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>>165788814
What's the combo then.
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>>165788743
Guillotine is way worse than Taz'Dingo and Taz'Dingo isn't good.
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>>165788814

>Landing combos is the secret!

Enemies aren't dumb! If he can't do it himself, he's useless signed, a solo queue soul who hates people.

I mean, if I had a Malf that'd suck my cock the entire game, yeah. I could see Alarak doing well. I don't, so enemies just move .5% north and evade everything. Can't hit enemies with the triangle dick.

Meanwhile, Kerrigan combo is easy mode but then the 5-man meatball you jump into kills you.
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>>165788889
You pull them to you with Telekinesis, Q them and then lightning them. I know mind blowing.
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>>165788356
>implying anything beyond looking at actual gameplay isn't theorycrafting.
>implying I'm not master 5514 right now
>me implying any of this is even worth bringing up in this shit action brawler
I'm pretty sure anyone who frequents this thread is guaranteed to be gold or higher even if they're half assing it.
>>165788889
The combo is to listen to the voice actor, inherit his misanthropy, and time your abilities as you would ragdoll them out of the game.
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>>165788814
I remember these post about Kerrigan months ago, they were funny
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>>165789093
>Enemies aren't dumb!
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>>165789093
You do realize your telekinesis has insane range right and if done right pulls you to them. Like if you can't land Alarak's combo that's pretty fucking bad.
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>>165768607
>Uther
I could listen to his sexy old man voice all day and all night
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>Valeera added to Heroes
>crotch censored

So, yea, we're not gonna support this right?
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>>165789480
You look like you could use a healing fountain! :^)
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>>165789171
No because people months ago were saying there is no reason to pick Kerrigan now that Alarak is out. The only map Kerrigan is worth anything on is Infernal Shrines.
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>>165789269

>Telekinesis has insane range!

What part of "The enemy isn't stupid" and "Likely has 50 times more matches than me and makes playing him pointless" don't you get?

I literally can't seem to win beyond Zeratul. He actually does "ENEMIES DIE WHEN HIT" damage. No one else in the game does. Butcher does but >Butcher
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>>165789535
I know I'm.
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>>165783349
I usually make these things to try out different styles.
I'll make her more 'generous' next time.
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>>165789535

WHY DOESN'T THIS GAME HAVE MODEL MODS LIKE LoL DOES?
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>>165789654
Have you tried not being terrible? Zeratul's only good build is a lot more confusing to get the most out of than Alarak.
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>>165789784
Because Starcraft 2's engine should have never seen daylight.
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>>165783568
thanks but it's rather crude compared to how I'd like it to look. Procrastination is murder.
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>>165789535
>want this
>get blonde morgan webb
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>>165787785
Is the comic worth reading?
where do I even pirate comics
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>>165789905

>Have you tried not being terrible?

Hard to improve when the skill gap between myself and the enemy is massive. So..yes, and I can't stop being terrible.

Zeratul does too much damage for my mistakes to matter.
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>>165790569
I tried to upload them to TPB but my IP is range banned because of some asshole.
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You think that whenever they get around to adding Maiev, her inevitable moon priestess skin will still be obsessed with Illidruid?
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>>165790569
>Med'an.

No it's not.
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I like Guillotine, the animations for it are good, the cast time gives it this powerful feeling, and the AoE for it is small so you feel good when you land it, but man the damage mechanic for it takes away from it all.
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>>165791265
I don't think your going to be seeing Maiev.
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>our boy akaijii on top of hots reddit
shit nigger what are you doing?
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>>165791742
>our boy
>when he dipped months ago
he's been a karma faggot since ages
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>>165791265
Why the fuck do people want Maiev in this game again?
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>>165792129

Because people like different things than you, what a surprise you little niglet.
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>>165792129
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>>165792129
Because 1000 years of pent up estrogen is one helluvah drug.
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>Az'modan won't use general of hell
>misses dunks on structures
>never goes in mines
>never helps with camps
>never leaves to lane
>constantly dead
>gets on scoreboard for 23% of siege damage done
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>>165792464
the entire mvp/scoreboard system was a mistake
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>>165792129
Because some people aren't 12
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>>165792129
Because she's cute and fun and a wc3 hero.
Cairne, Archimonde or Kil'jaeden, Lady Vashj, Kel'thuzad, Tichondrius or Varimathras, Vol'jin, Mannoroth and Maiev fucking when
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There goes $10.
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>>165769897
Yeah, we can do any hero if this sort of thing gets in. Hopefully the mechanics are meaningful.
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>mfw I made thrall ride a horse and varian ride a kodo
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>>165792559
some improvements and it could be fine
but right now it's just useless time consuming trash
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>>165792717
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I'm gonna play Medivh in QM
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>>165791291
>Med'an gets added
>intentionally made murkey-tier
>>
who do you guys want reworked/buffed?
i want a reworked Tyrande and Greymane, they both feel a bit lackluster, especially the latter
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>>165793828
>greymane was perfect the way he was
>blizzard fucked him so much he need a full rework now

wew lad
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>Master Valeera have corehound tooth and perdition blade as weapons

based blizzard
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>>165793828
I wasn't around when greymane came out, but nowadays he feels really gimped. How the fuck does he not have any self-heal?
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>>165794046
>first thing I looked for was her bloodfang tint
>noticed the daggers

I'm so happy.
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>>165793828
Don't forget Uther.
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>>165789139
Don't forget to AA as well, I kept forgetting to do that and people kept walking away.
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>>165792559
All it needs is some tweaking for MVP, and checking if a secondary award like most siege damage was actually worth commending for instead of being the reason you lost, or it didn't matter in the end.

Like, you spend 30 minutes doing 100k of siege damage, but your teammates managed to win a teamfight without you and gg pushed to core within 2 minutes and did like 50k siege damage while you were dead yet again.

Or something like, you get the point. Can't be that many scenarios to check. Also a good excuse to get rid of shit awards like "Didn't die when outnumbered". What the fuck kind of achievement is that?
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>>165794917
The goal is to make people feel good and not quit. The awards are super generous, but that's the entire point.

Plus, you can't exactly put up five heroes with "played the game adequately" when no one did anything worth while, so big numbers and silly unique awards help mitigate that.
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Which one?
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>>165795432
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjUqUVrXclE
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>>165794352
Holy shit
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>>165795432
Did you draw that?
If so draw more
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>"support mains" autopicking Auriel "cuz she's op"
>no heals
>always out of energy anyway
>don't know how to use their passive, or always picking the other support for some reason
>always picks res, never gets to use it because they're first dead
>can't fucking heal in a teamfight but manage to keep the whip off cooldown all game
>flicking enemy heroes to safety every single fucking time we're chasing someone
>"you clearly dont play auriel or support xD"
FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKKKK

I know I shouldn't expect competence from QM players but god fucking damn this is infuriating.
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>>165796160
>people below diamond trying to play auriel

Even in Diamond it's pretty questionable, desu.

>>165795432
Hey, nice.
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>>165796160
if I could just play QM and be able to expect some semblance of competence, I'd be happy. every other mode is boring as shit, but the players are always absolutely terrible.
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Relatively new to the game. Which melee damage heroes are actually worth taking? I feel like being an initiator or support in low matchmaking is a terrible idea because you rely on your retarded teammates following up. I've been by far most successful with Gul'dan and Kael'thas (though KT feels like he relies on enemies being retarded, bomb would be way less useful against good people). I've been playing Zul'jin because he's fun but it feels like I have to play like a retard to do any damage with him. I pretty much always wish I was Gul'dan and doing way more teamfight damage, being at a safe position, and having an ult which helps my team.
>>
Now that they ahve the model and animations all finished and everything, I'm hoping we'll get the actual Magic Rooster as a mount, as opposed to the Lunar Rooster.

I really want it, but I'd honestly rather have El Pollo Grande over this thing.
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>>165797489
thrall
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>>165797489
Illidan.
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>>165797489

Thrall and Ragnaros.

>Alarak can be good into squishies, but is a tad finicky/difficult
>>
Why does blizzard make such luscious chinese bitches?
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>>165797609

Yeah, Thrall is the only one who I ever felt comparably useful with mainly because of his W being so useful for securing kills.

>>165797636
Illidan is very fun but I feel that, like Zul'jin, you need to play like a retard to actually contribute. Someone else needs to initiate first or I'll just die; he seems mainly useful for picking up people fleeing from a fight, not in the actual fight. And if I'm just looking for solo pick-offs Zeratul seems better.

>>165797823

I tried Rag and man, I don't find him fun at all. Basically the only abilities I enjoy are meteor and the hammer ult, but it's very difficult to justify not taking lava wave and using molten core and that to just stop pushes forever. Explosion damage seems terrible unless you take the 100% increased damage talent, and then you have to walk in the middle of their team instead of putting it on your Muradin or whatever.
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are you guys sure that this is a female?
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>>165797489
Rag is great, but you have to play him like a ranged assassin early on.
Even if you're going Q(hammer) build, which is my preferred way. Stay back and poke with meteor until you get to level 10.
Rag is a big glowing target and other teams will love to focus you down, even prioritizing you over your healer and Rag has very few escapes.
Late-game Rag is a completey beast.
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>>165798116
Elf goes in the gender field, too.
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>>165788063
Alarak becomes a better pick the higher rank you are, if you think they suck that's because you're in bronze-gold
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>>165798116
That's a transexual.
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>>165797489
Alarak, Thrall, Ragnaros, Zeratul.

>Ranged poke
>Self-sustain/shielding
>Easy to use/reliable escape

IF it has two of these, it's a viable melee assassin.
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>>165797823
>>165798223
>>165798445

I'll need to try Alarak. I didn't enjoy him when I tried him before but he definitely seems strong, I've gotten fucked by Alaraks before.

Which ranged damage are worth playing? Beyond Gul'dan and KT I've felt useful with Chromie (slow field is insane objective defense), Tychus, and Sylvanas. Going to try Li-Ming out.
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>>165798915
Valla
Li meme
Tychus
Lunara
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>>165799053
What's the hot new Valla builds after her rework?
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>>165798915
>Some semblance of burst
>Safe reliable poke
>Some form of mobility/easy to use escape OR way to defend oneself (Raynor's Q or his talent that pushes back upon being CC'd for example)

If it has two, it's viable.

So not Zul'jin.
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Valeera has the same the voice actress, color scheme, character profile and even W ability as Katarina from LoL.

This is why they should have fucking stuck with her old personality instead of turning her into Edgy Assassin Slut instead of Hot-Blooded Jailbait
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>>165799302

taz'dingo :-(

all the heroes I actually like as characters are bad except for KT and Gul'dan.
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>>165799182
you mean that korean build?
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>Valeera's kit

I think I contracted cancer just from looking at that. Please let her be shit so I don't need to learn how to counter this.
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>>165799357
>no shunpo
>no voracity
>can't just roam bot for double-kill and snowball

Nah, she isn't Katarina. Sort of sad, desu.
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>>165795732
Yup! Gotta get that cutie auriel some love
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>>165799510
butthurt diablocuck pls
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>>165799534
wtf is that shit this looks like emo tracer with even more anorexia
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>>165799392
Same. The only "good" characters I actually like are Gul'dan and Ragnaros. Ragnaros is banned all the time, and everyone hopped on the Gul'dan bandwagon eventually, no I can't even get him consistently.

QM may have a bunch of dirtbags, but christ HL feels even worse in comparison, especially when you like nothing "good". It's weird, "top tier" picks are always the most fucking boring.
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>>165799638
She better not be good vs Diablo, he's my go to tank.
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>>165767267

What are you supposed to do about Samuro? Played against him on Blackheart's and he farmed camps like crazy and is impossible to kill if he plays evasive; illusions bodyblock even when you know which is the real one and then he turns invisible and walks faster than you to leave. The only time he's ever vulnerable is on turn-in so it feels like I need to camp the pirate and hope his team doesn't cover him when he turns in his 20 coins.
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>>165799510

She looks like Blizzard was so happy with Kalista that they decided to grab pre-nerf Talon (aka Cancer Incarnate) as well.

Assassins should never ever fucking have a gap-closer as well as a silence, not to even mention wave-clear, stealth and a get-out-of-jail card/powerful 1v1.
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>>165799510
Mhm. Curious as to how the Cheap Shot and Garrote will work.

>>165799641
Uh, melee Li-Ming. Think the teleport build.
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>>165799764
ignore him and enjoy your 5v4 teamfight stomps because one member of their team is too busy getting camps

>>165799797
>Alarak has Silence as *his* thing
>fucking wowstone OC gets a Silence AND a stun on top of stealth because why the fuck not
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>>165799764
Take camps before he does, counterpush hos pish. teamfight normally in between. He's a lategame hero, so he takes a while to actually be good in a fight, otherwise he just plays like Gazlowe practically, but more disruptive in a fight, which is pathetic and sad. For both he AND Gazlowe.
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>>165799812
no I mean her model, like there can't be any organs in that body, they wouldn't fit
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>>165799764
you play murky and you get the good ult
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>>165800032
Get out of your basement some time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hlJq7RLC4M
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>>165799908

Dubloons seem too strong to ignore on that map. In general objectives in this game seem too strong to ignore, with a few exceptions (dragon knight is not that threatening).

>>165799910
>camps before he does
I don't know who I'd possibly be playing to take camps faster than him, but I get it, take what camps you can to slow it. More than that, once he has coins it's near impossible for him to lose them unless he plays like an idiot. In fact that's my complaint with Samuro in general; he isn't so overwhelming offensively but he basically never dies unless he's retarded.
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>>165800059
Why hasn't this little fellow even gotten a band-aid buff? Below dumpster tier at last check.

>reduced progress for takedown quests
>puffer less shit
>reduced CD on Q or E
>Octo-Grab no longer breaks on death

Come on, give me something to work with.
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>>165800397

>Octo-Grab no longer breaks on death
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>>165800397
>Octo-Grab no longer breaks on death
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>>165800397
The puffer is for zoning and pve. As for the rest, I feel like a slight buff can make him too good in the hands of competent people.
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>>165800397
>Come on, give me something to work with.
There are these things called other heroes you could try. I hear some of them are pretty gud
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>>165800397
They're really big on nerfing heroes that don't really need it and ignoring undertuned heroes in general.
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>>165800397
>Octo-Grab no longer breaks on death
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Getting sniped by owls on BHB is super rough.
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sniping with owls on BWB is the best feel in this game, especially if it's Aba
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some fucking retard on my team kept getting sniped by owls on fucking BHB ir was like a fucking 4v5 after the first 10 minutes

ive lost 8 in a row now fucking hate this playerbase
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>ragnaros uses lava wave with the intent of killing people
>every time they walk away and he gets no value from it other than a minion wave
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>>165804070
BUT IT WORKED LAST WEEK
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>realizing that I need to buy Tyrael to keep playing him
I got him to lvl 9 as well FUCK
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So when are they nerfing Butcher.
Just literally looks at me and I die
>Fresh Meat
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>>165805245
>Fresh Mesh
>*bubbles away*
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>>165805245
Uh, I doubt he'll see changes until they look at melee as a whole. Just don't allow him to catch you out, 1v1, duel or whatever. That's literally all he can do.

Also keep in mind that he's literally a walking point-click stun until he gets his meat. Either zone him away from minions early and/or kill to set him further behind.

Again, don't try to slap fight him. Especially if he look lambs.
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>>165805245
>Fresh meat
>I use my Crystal on myself
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>taz'dinger has a 91% pickrate

Jesus Christ, no wonder people are shit at that hero. They pick the literal die move on purpose.
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>>165806497
It's most useful as a "not-die" move. The most successful uses of it have been when they dive for me, and I pop it and just walk away as they chase a bit to get to me, walking into my team. That's seriously it. Trying to use it offensively is a bust majority of the time.

I have absolutely no idea why they made his ults so shitty when the rest of his kit offers nothing else.
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>>165806074
Are you the one that was playing Auriel without realizing you could do that?
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>>165806497
>Taking the ult that's only good if you throw it while your dying.
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>>165807384

50% is enough to get like 1.1k damage out. That's pretty fine.
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>>165807460
That's like landing one spell with chromie
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is the healing punch or iron fists better on kharazim
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>>165807986
Aren't they both good since the buff?
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>>165804647
>4k gold
And?
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>>165807986
Always go Iron Fists.

Go heal if no one else can heal.
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>>165807986
Iron fists
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>>165807635

It's also a lot of damage on a hero that already does a lot of damage without it.
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>>165808714
You do no damage when you are dead tho
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>>165807986
Insight for healing.
Iron Fist for dps.
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>>165809103

The trick is to not die I guess?

I'm not master league or anything, but cleave build is fairly safe and long range and does great damage. I rarely find myself out of position enough to be in danger of being instagibbed, and if I feel like I might be then I don't drain my own HP and build more survivable to mitigate that danger.

I definitely understand why Taz'dingo is great in the highest of high tiers, but 8% pickrate on Guillotine is pretty surprising nonetheless.
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>Blizzard makes hero that excels at low HP
>Immediately followed by a stealth instagib assassin

M A X I M U M G O Y
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im a new player, game is pretty fun

any advice for me?
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>>165811106
Don't die
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>>165811106

>don't die
>don't blame teammates
>don't flame teammates
>don't spend gold on heroes that weren't recently reduced in price
>mute useless people
>while rare, you will occasionally get constructive flame
>always reflect and see if there was something you could've done differently/better
>take everything with grain of salt
>have fun, don't get burnt out
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>>165811106

Practice makes perfect. Learn the ins and outs of the maps, timing spells, landing skill shots when to soak and when not to, when camps are good, when boss is good or not, watch your map, and don't get discouraged when you lose.

Also, don't buy heroes you dont like to make it into ranked. It'snot worth it. You can try any hero for free before you buy in try mode, so never, ever blind buy. Play it on try mode or when it's free to play and then make your judgement.

Other than that, try to learn and improve from your mistakes and misplays and always strive to do better and you will get far.
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>>165811106
play best hero
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>>165811106
Learn to soak properly and effeciently (Get exp from killing lane minions)
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>Master Valeera has bloodfang color and Corehound Tooth and Perdition's Blade

Its the little things like this that remind me that maybe Blizzard does have a lot of heart in this game and really do care.
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>>165811106
Learn when to soak over going for objective, then complain about your teammates being morons for going in 4vs5.
Avoid teamfighting while at level disadvantage. Also complain about idiots jumping into the meatgrinder.

Press the advantage. If 4 of their team are dead and your team has no casualties, quickly take the closest camp/boss and push down at least one fort. Don't scatter and do your own thing each! The further into the game, the more you should look into just going for core to end it after multiple kills. I see games thrown by playing "safe" all the time.

Thos shit is not actually common knowledge, so some moronic mouthbreathet might attack you for not dying with them.
At this point, either argue and risk an aneurysm, or just go along. 5 idiots with a bad plan achieve more in a team game than a lone wolf with a good plan. It might just work out.
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>>165812789
>And then you remember Nova, Gazlowe and how shit both of Zul'jin's ultimates are, and wonder why they don't care enough sometimes.
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>>165813103
Gazlowe's Master Skin is pretty cool.
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>>165813103

Nova and Gazlowe are like 5 years old. They havent aged well and I'm sure they will revisit them eventually like all of the ancient Blizzard Dota era heroes.
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What if Zul'jin could take the ult he didn't take at ten as a level twenty talent like Alarak?
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What's the likelihood Zul'jin will actually get buffed? He seems pretty bad overall, especially the ults. However he's probably terrorizing bad players.
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>>165768607
>Nova
Noice
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>>165813351
Nova is fine, they just need to diversify talent picks a bit more.

Now Gazlowe and Uther, those need a rework and buffs soon.
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>>165813217
Yeah, one of my favorites. I own all my favorite Master skins actually.

Gazlowe
Rexxar
Nazeebo
Xul
Gul'dan
Ragnaros
Rehgar
Zul'jin

Other ones I really like but haven't gotten are Murky, Varian, and Sylvanas.
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>>165813394

Likely will tune some cooldowns and maybe possibly rework le trole dunk.

Besides that unlikely.
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>>165769603
Lore wise she possessed her own dead body.
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>>165813489
>Not Monks.

Come on man. Punch them with the brass knucks.
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>>165813394
I want them to at the very least build in mana cost reductions for his Q and W builds, if not just reduce the baseline costs.

Jesus christ, they give you the option to build for spammy Qs and Ws, but do nothing to alleviate the fact that his mana pool doesn't allow for it. It makes no sense.
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>>165813679
Fuck I forgot to list Monk, I leveled him to 11 and thought about getting it. I love the third tint on it.
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>>165813489
>>165813679
UED tychus best skin
SERVE THE DIRECTORATE
SERVE HUMANITY
outta my way alien fucking shits
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>>165813394
>Nerfs to AD
>Buffs to AP
>Tweaks/buff to Guillotine
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What if guillotine stunned for 0.5 seconds? It could be used as a tool to stop chen ult or etc's mosh
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>>165814487
It needs to do more base damage, that's it.
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>>165814487

It would just really be an even worse Sulfras Smash then.

It needs to be a proper finsher move.a d scale off of the enemy missing health and not just yours. There's no reason why a giant fuck huge blade should hit a Morales with 400 hp and not die because Zul'jin was not almst dead when he casted it.

Also, why the fuck does he use mana? He throws axe, throws other axe, throws TWO axe, and heals so he can throw more axe. Doesn't make sense.
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>>165814713
The mana thing is probably because they didn't want another Samuro.
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>>165814487
>Guillotine now deals increased damage the lower the targets health is

Eh?
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>>165814412

>nerfs to AD

please no, he's not even good with AD build. so much risk for damage that isn't much better than his alternatives
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>>165814859

I don't know about balanced it is, but seems like they'd give 'em the old Falstad treatment.

Anyways, we'll see. Valeera on PTR tomorrow, so would that mean we might get some patch notes?
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>Varian good Warrior rep
>Valeera good Combat Rogue rep
>Gul'dan good Warlock rep
>Thrall still doesn't feel jack shit like an Enhancement Shaman.
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>>165813489
Yeah, Murky's master skin is a must buy if they ever make him even a teeny bit more worthwhile.

I always hated him in a diaper. But his cute shorts and helmet work great. Right now my only Master is Chen.

I have Sonya at 10, but Super Sonya da besss.
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>>165814974
Thrall originally has Rehgar's kit, but they wanted him to use the Doomhammer more, so they gave it to Rehgar and made something that would make him hit things with his giant hammer.
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>>165813717
This was the biggest impression I got from leveling him to five during free week. Super mana starved for no fucking reason.

I did feel I got the hang of it later, but I ended up just not really using Q or W much and focusing my mana on regenning back to 50% between fights.
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>>165814959
We'll get PTR patch notes tomorrow and the real patch notes (not including PTR changes) on Wednesday.

Also, if Valeera's kit is entirely extra effects when you come out of stealth, I might snag her up. She looks nice and straight forward and I could use a mindless but fun hero to shit up QM.
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>>165815187
His kit is actually pretty reminiscent of his WC3 one, besides Windfury.
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>>165815310

Chain lightning and earthquake, yes. The wolf is only similar aesthetically, completely different ability.
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>newbie stimpack gone
>can't win QM games with heroes I never tried before
>joining a pub stack is a miserable experience as the party leader bitches that we're not helping him get mad kills as Nova
>even on Elite and doing my best not to help with teamfights or pushing, games barely get past 60k exp a round with stack bonuses
>took 5 hours to grind 2 heroes to lv 5
>still 19 left to grind in the future weeks
I'm not looking forward to upcoming weeks.
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>>165816419
Thankfully I'm almost done with the 5-grind. Not sure what I'm gonna do when I'm finished.

Still need Cho, Rexxar, Ragnaros and Johanna.

Playing TLV was a fucking miserable experience
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>>165816586

>missing Cho
>not Gall

if you suffered through Gall anything is possible
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>>165816638
I mean I played with a friend on voice, he doesn't have a mic but all I gotta do is just brainlessly spam my abilities and press Z on occasion. How bad could that be?
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>>165816739

I don't know anyone that I would trust to be good enough to be my Cho, Cho is literally like 90% of the success or failure of Cho'gall. Being Gall with a bad Cho is the worst experience possible in this game.
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>>165816586
TLV actually wasn't that bad for me because micro'ing 3-5 characters isn't new to me.

Kind of sucked to micro in HotS though.
I'm used to Tabbing through control groups but Tab doesn't do that in-game and I couldn't figure out how to set a hotkey profile just for TLV before I was done so I gave up on it.

Double-pressing 1-2-3 for the vikings was subpar but not impossible. Probably would never bring them into ranked until at least I figure out how to get the hotkeys to be usable for me. I just used 1 and 3 to soak exp and regen globes in lanes and then ran around with second viking throwing swords at people. In long games where I managed to get past like 30-40 globes, it was hilarious at how easily I could just run around like an idiot and barely not die repeatedly.

Viking ship wasn't really that great on a lot of maps though. I feel like getting the auto-feed ult might be better in the long run unless the enemy is like a 5-man melee with no cc.
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>>165817000
try holding space most of the time, while playing the vikings
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>>165817000
I think I won 2 and lost 2 with TLV before I just got tired of playing them and went to bot matches. It's probably because I'm not super good with them but it was just absolutely fucking unsatisfying to play them. Just three mediocre fuckfaces.

Also their voices are unbelievably fucking grating so that didn't help
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>>165817258
>but it was just absolutely fucking unsatisfying to play them
Yeah, I felt that too.

I didn't want to go the afk camp farming route but I feel like if the enemy knows how to keep you out of the lanes, that's your only recourse for making an impact and if the enemy has better teamfight and some waveclear, you're even more useless.
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daily reminder that valeera sanguinar has been censored for heroes of the storm and will feature zero (I repeat: Z-E-R-O) booty or pussy on display as it has been entirely covered.
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>>165817390
>zero (I repeat: Z-E-R-O) booty
who is tyrande
there's gonna be booty f a m
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>>165817390
I honestly don't care or mind, her tits look way too big, and Rogues have always had a "cool" factor to me, and I honestly have never liked the look of showing a lot of leg. Even on dudes I hate it, so I'm happy with what we got.

On the flipside, WoW "censored" Sylvanas, and HotS got the less covered up version of her.
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>>165817783
HotS Sylvanas was released before Legion trailer, also HotS Sylvanas WAS originally censored. They eventually removed it because everyone hated on it
>>165817591
Tyrande only has booty if you're flipping her around on hero select. Totally invisible in game. Only booty you can see in game is fucking Stitches
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>>165817783
>Rogues have always had a "cool" factor to me
Check this out, Coldsteel. The concept of a leggy female assassin is to distract the enemy. Can you imagine fighting for your life against a girl that fuckable? Tits swaying with every strike, beautiful bubbly butt jiggling every dodge
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>>165818205
Wouldn't she be fighting from stealth or flanking you most of the time?
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>>165814713
Deals higher damage than now like 300 damage minimum, but deals additional damage equal to 0.5% of their maximum health for every 1% of current health they are under 90% of their maximum.

I.e. 0 bonus damage on full to 90% health targets, 20% of max health bonus damage on 50% health heroes, 25% of max health bonus damage on 40% health targets and so forth. Basically a guaranteed kill on ANY hero if they run around at 30%hp.
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>>165815187
And thank god for that, whacking shit with that beefy hammer is satisfying as hell.

Now if only Uther didn't swing a bloody inflatable toy hammer, that'd be mighty nice. Fucking Morales deals more damage per attack.
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>>165818415
Not in Warcraft, mang
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>>165819631
Right? The weapon attacks feel so unsatisfying.

You'd think swinging Sulfuras would have a nice sound or something but it's only when you Q
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>>165819686
I'll admit, it's been about 7 years since I played WoW, but whenever I'd end up in a scrap with a rogue I remember them stealthing a lot and circling around to backstab me. Do they not do that anymore?
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>>165819725
on the note of hammers and sounds, is leoric's mace sounding like a plunger thwacking a squishy beef patty supposed to be a reference to something ingame in diablo, or what
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>>165819725
Nah, I like that clunk of his hammer. Sounds like a mixture of a slab of lead hitting asphalt and reverbating metal on metal.
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>>165819846
Maybe the death noises of random monsters. I never really noticed how squishy it sounds before.
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>>165819796
They hit you a lot, then vanish and hit you more. Visible 95% of the time.
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>>165819796
Eh, not really. They've been more about control than sitting in stealth for the past few years.

Or just sitting on somebody doing stupid amounts of PvE damage god bless Assassination and Combat finally being viable.

>>165819725
>unsatisfying attacks

Mm, a lot of Heroes feel like this, at least to me. Everything starts off feeling sort of..spazzy.
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>>165820307
>F O U R

How can hots even compete
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>Deal about 30-40k more damage with Q build than AA build on Zul'jin

I swear this marking shit is great, especially when you need to switch targets a lot either because of mobility or whatever the fuck. Fuck this feels better than the AA build.
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>>165819725
>>165820307
Really, that's one thing I'll give LoL credit for. A lot of the abilities make it clear something's happening.

Jhin for example.

>Q makes an audible "dsh" sound as it hits each enemy, and the grenade itself is fairly glowy and easily visible
>W makes a very visible line on the ground, theres an audible "bang" and there's a particle effect to show you've been rooted
>E traps make a sound effect and very visible effect when you step on it
>R has a showdown tune play briefly, and a big pattern on the ground showing it's range, each shout has a loud BANG with the bullets very visibly whizzing by

Another thing I like League having that HoTS doesn't tho
>Spot on the HUD where you can see ally health/resource bars, with a circle indicator telling you how long until their ult is back up.
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>>165821384

Aha, yes. That may be what it is. I've just felt that in League there's a certain...cleanness? Crispness?

>teammate frames

Oh, please. I'd love these. Especially if we could keybind to quickly page to them (F1 to quickly move camera to Chen, for instance), which would be especially comfy for Abathur/Brightwing.
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>>165792129
Because:
>I like Illi suffering
>She was my second favorite character in wc3
>She is cute and I dig psychotic girls.
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>>165798116
NEVER TRUST AN ELF!
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Blizz leaked Winston as the next hero

>q: jump ability like muradin. pushes enemies.
>w: barrier reducing damages of abilites
>e: eat banana. restore health
>r1: rage. more health, damage pushes enemies
>r2: channeling ability. calldown all heroes

to promote overwatch more he'll be OP at first then they'll probably tweak it to hell laterz
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>>165824451
neat now i can kill hamarambay all i want xd
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>>165824451
>not Reinhardt
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>>165817390
HOW phatetic you have to be to care about how much pixel ass you can see in a fucking MOBA??? Like get a girlfriend and fuck with her.
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>>165824875
fuck off SJW, censoring video games is literal fascism
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>tfw finding this game a million times more fun than dota, league, and dota2 combined

How is this possible? I haven't played a blizzard game since WC3 and tried this on a whim it's so fun.
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>>165826107
it's because it lacks depth and complexity
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>>165826107
It's because it's a lot more casual at intermediate level.

Not that it doesn't require skill, it's just way more lenient and you rarely ever invest more than 20 minutes into a game, so it feels faster and less of a farmfest slug like other mobas.
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>>165779263
you deserve it for playing nova
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After finally getting new computer I realised I was wasting enough $ for one new game every 2-3 weeks on hots shop.

Glad thats over. Goodbye hotsg
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>>165817390
good, that shit looks tasteless as fuck
i wouldn't like playing a complete whore
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>>165827813
>he spent money on this game
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>165827813
new game as in full price game or new game as in battleborn garbage bin tier?
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>>165828068
Well seeing I bought every bundle and at least 1 skin every 2 weeks its closer to full game.

No regrets tho, I fucking love everything I bought.
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>>165824451
>w: barrier reducing damages of abilites
>e: eat banana. restore health
Not only is your wording shit, but you don't even know lore enough to construct proper bait.
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>>165827813
I have a monthly budget of like 200 bucks for games and entertainment. Usually, that amounts to 2-3 garbage bin steam sales for 40 bucks lasting me the entire month. Why wouldn't I buy some minor stuff in HotS every now and then? It's not wasted money because I wouldn't have used it for a better purpose anyway. I like HotS and want it to stay alive, and some of the skins are really nice and sales make them quite affordable. I've spent maybe 100 bucks total on this game I can play for hours every day.

That's what, 1.3 cinematic AAA games with a playtime of 5-15 hours?

Poorfags always get so mad at cash stuff in ftp games and I honest to god don't understand why.
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>>165828474
Technology isn't there yet for a detachable lid on that peanut butter glass.
It also doesn't fit the character fantasy of playing a talking monkey scientist.

Sorry to disappoint!
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>>165819846
>>165819967
I just assumed because it was a giant bladed mace it was the squishy sound of him beating against your fleshy mortal face. Every hit is like turning an enemy into a bloody, pulpy mess.
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>>165824451
>Winston
>banana

0/10
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༼ つ _ ༽つ Patch Notes ༼ つ _ ༽つ
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>>165794282
because when he came out he didn't need it, but they nerfed him because he countered Dustin's husbando and waifu
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>>165767267
Now that's a classic OP
I like it
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>>165817390
uninstalled
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enough to make a grown man cry
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>>165830384
Will drawfag ever return?
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>>165831334
They've come and gone, nobody sticks around this shithole.

I loved this guy more than the "lewd anon" or whatever.
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>>165831334
I miss him too. He will never finish the all girls bikini collection.
>>165831393
Miss that guy as well.
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>>165831956
I want a tsundre Sonya in a swimsuit so badly.
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>>165818116
>booty

The super hero Tyrande skin would like a word.
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>>165831393
I found that anon's webpage and asked if he was done with HOTS or not and he said he was just taking a break.
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>>165831334

Tfw drawfag but not very good so everyone will hate me
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>abathur level 20
>feels like a waste to play
New leveling system when?
>>
ptr when?
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>>165790569
I really liked the first half and if youre not going to buy it might aswell give it a try.

I read comics on readcomicsonline, dont know where everyone else get theirs.
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>>165834048
nobody would hate you, dont be silly anon.
i love you already
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>>165834069
I feel that after level 10
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>>165789480
hes senile
also probably alzheimers
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>>165824451
>eat banana
>not peanutbutter

lol
>>
Why do I want to spend so much money on this game? Sure, I play it every day but buying a pay skin for so many heroes is retarded.

Why do I still want to spend? I'm even considering getting pay skins for heroes I already have payskins for.
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>>165835175
Dressing your favorite characters in pretty clothes is fun.
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>>165834638
REAL senile old man when
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>>165817390
the loincloth makes it hotter, its like you can barely see her ass all the timeand thats better than just seeing it
>>
>We have Tyrande
>They have Tyrande, Kharazim and Medivh

I know I'm playing QM, but fuck this matchmaking is awful
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>>165837826
Kharazhim takes dps talents and Tyrande takes shadowstalk
If the Medivh doesn't suck there should be enough room for your other 2 teammates to go hard nearly uncontested with a good engage.
>>
>>165837826

Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a way to get both fast queues and have matches be close to fair and balanced or complete mirror matches. QM is the "queue up as your favorite guy" for fun mode, so take it as only.
>>
>>165838057
>WE
>THEY
Stop browsing 4chan while fapping, mate.
>>
PTR patchnotes when?
>>
I don't care about Valeera, leaker-kun where are you?
>>
>hurr this hero dumb i would have done [imserts cringey shit kit that a 4 year old could make]

Why do people do this so much? You aren't a game designer, you sound like an idiot.
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>>165841041
fuck off Broll
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>>165840526
Here.

Femdiablo Legendary Skin
Aidan
Rivendare Skin & Skeleton Horse
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>>165841157

I believe you internet poster without tripcode.

Can't wait to see this post on reddit.
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>>165841157
Who the fuck is Aiden and why would Rivendare ever not be mounted?
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>>165841468
Dark Wanderer. What would a DW kit look like?
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WHERE'S THE PTR UPDATE BLIZZARD
I WOKE UP SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT TODAY
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>>165841749
Melee basic attacks, summons demons and leaves zones of hellfire lying around, I'd think. No idea for ults. Maybe have some iconic warrior abilities from Diablo 1, though I haven't played that much so I couldn't say what those might be.
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>>165841749
Never played D2 but isn't he literally a meme famservice character that does nothing in the game?
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>>165841749
Ult just turns you into diablo, kit included until you die.
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>>165841825
Should be 2 and a half hour after my post.
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>>165842475
>Have you ever wanted
>2 (TWO) DIABLOS ON YOUR HL TEAM
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>>165839684
>>165842826
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>>165842838
Oh, conveyor belt laning with Diablo, Alarak and Diablo 2 sounds fun.
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>>165842826
Thank you based blizz employee
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>MFW Warcraft fan and dont care about any of the other IPs
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>>165844091

>tfw some faggot thinks we care about his preferences
>>
Treant hero when?
>>
by the way if Valeera has some anal sex joke I'm buying the bundle
>>
What's a good build on Murky these days?
>>
>>165844441
you will as they release the next warcraft hero
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>>165845610
>Murky
>good
Pick one.
Living the dream and march are pretty fun when you watch the enemy team as they have no idea what it does and try to fight in it anyways.
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>>165842826
t. reddit guy
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>>165817390
Daily reminder that you're playing a game for children
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>>165845405
>I like to do it from behind
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>won 9 hero league games in a row

Where did all these good teammates suddenly come from? Did i use up my good luck for this month?
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>>165846354
>child literally gets pushed out of pussy and eats from titties
>not allowed to look at either until 18
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>>165845405
ROGUES
DO IT IN THE DARKNESS
ROGUES
DO IT WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE
AND WITH A LITTLE DROP OF POISON
ROGUES DO IT FROM BEHIND

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>165845610
Living the Dream build (aka they have no cleanse or no teamplay or CC in general)

Living the Dream
Octograb
Wrath of Cod
Slimy Pufferfish
Rewind

Pufferfish -> Rewind Pufferfish -> Octograb deals 4k damage on full LtD stacks, enough to fuck a good deal of squishies.
If you can weave in two Slimes, that goes up to 5.2k damage.

Personally I prefer survival and continuous annoyance over burst, so Block, Slime Advantage, Bubble Machine and Rejuvenating Bubble are a good way to make some assholes want to kill themselves from your persistance. Continuous Slime if they never really react is pretty dope, and Slimy Pufferfish adds a lot of oomph and additional slow/damage to your kit.

All in all, stay the fuck away from ranged AAs in general, high burst heroes only if your team isn't with you they waste burst on you and your team has a significant advantage and don't get right into the middle of the fray, that aoe damage will murder you.
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>>165846651
>win 5 in a row
>lose 4 in a row
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How do I build Zeratul these days?
>>
>>165847074

D E P E N D S ON E N E M Y COMP
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Selendis
>>
Hogger
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S A L L Y
A
L
L
Y
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>>165848031
>>165848217
Terokk
>>
Memes
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>>165846651
yes
its gonna be miserable from now on
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>>165848395
SCOURGED
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>>165848395
While I'd love that shit, there's no role she could fill. Holy spec priests are fucking boring.
She ain't no shadow priest. Noone likes Discipline.
She's currently a Deathknight.
There are more important Deathknights that could be added, like Theron'gor the fiend or Teron Gorefiend, first deathknight there was and the bestest of them all.
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>>165848617
Scourge is over anon

She was EBONED
>>
M E N G S K
E
N
G
S
K

(whichever one)
>>
>another stealth burst assassin
And so Murky drops even further.
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>>165848640
>There are more important Deathknights that could be added, like Theron'gor the fiend or Teron Gorefiend, first deathknight there was and the bestest of them all.
the original death knights were warlocks

Darion, Thassarian and Koltira when
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>>165785745
>belial
>garrosh
>maeiv
>imperius
>BAAL
holy shit dude
i just
want
all of this
to be REAL
>>
>x character deserves to be added because they are more "important"

Lorefags are pathetic. Gameplay over lore always and forever.
>>
What will be the next hero ? Valeera was announced by stabbing some orc. Will it be another warcraft hero ? another assassin ? Are all diablofag on suicide watch ?
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>>165848793
>Darion
Not important enough, also would mean Highlord Tirion could not be added. There can only be one Ashbringer!

>Thassarian
>a noble "good" deathknight redeemed, and totally was with Arthas originally in WC ;))))
Retconned horseshit, get that ebon bullshit out of here.
>Koltira
See Thassarian. Ebon shit not allowed, fuck off.

Teron or bust.
>>
Priest hero when?
>Q Flash heal
>W Power word shield
>E Psychic scream
>R1 Power word barrier
>R2 Guardian angel
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>>165842826
you lied faggot
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>>165842826
liar
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>>165850034
It's only been an hour and 40 minutes since his post
>>
Lucio next

Probe hero in testing named Probius
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>>165849920
>>165850034
another 20 mins
>>
Just started playing Chen and having fun, why is he so good at bullying people? Anyone have some general Chen tips?
>>
>Log on
>All heroes are free
>Play Anub 1 more time to get him to 5
>Finish game
>Hes no longer available for me to play, back to regular rotation
???
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>>165848714
Blizz don't you ever dare give us this Valerian faggot before the only true Mengsk
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>>165850360
Mind your rotation, Barrel needs a lot of practice to be useful while SEF doesn't AND gives you a second life, don't do stupid shit and mind enemy stuns and displacements.
>>
How many free heroes do new accounts get?
I remember getting to pick from 3, Moradin, Jaina, or Tyrande. I ended up picking Moradin and then Jaina but now I only have Jaina.

Will support laugh at me?
>>
>Golden cock is just 10k
YES
>>
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20477655/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-january-17-1-17-2017
>>
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20477655/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-january-17-1-17-2017
you guys are worthless
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>>165851062
>Lunar Cock is FREE
>>
>Valeera works off combo system
Cool
>>
How to build Zagara? I really want the zerg portrait but have never touched her. Already have Abby at level 10.
>>
so tassadong can stay in archon mode forever at level 20 if he's attacking something?
>>
>Tassadar
Basic Attack
Damage reduced from 69 to 10
Attack speed increased by 400%
Added Functionality:
Your basic attacks are channeled and slow the target’s Movement Speed by 20%

Fucking what
>>
>lunar cock isi free

BASED BLIZZ
>>
so what's the /vg/erdict on the rexxar changes boys
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>>165851995
Don't give a shit, TASSADAR BITCHES
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>wake up
>no more free week heroes
AHH
>>
It's old distortion beam
>>
>it's a "the nerfs are in the bug fixes" episode.
>>
so does the combo point system mean that Valeera will be another manaless stealth hero? kek
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>>165851773

>laser talent made baseline

Oh dear
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>>165852297

Yes.
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>>165852421
Combined with new level 16 talent essentially giving him Tychus' trait? I am fully erect.
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>>165852297
>unstoppable manaless stealth hero, that can't be revealed after going into stealth and can stun and silence people
>combo system is literally just "spam all your skillz and activate E last for le ebin combo"
It's Samuro all over again
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So. How has your day been, guys?
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>>165852671
lmao can't wait to see her talents
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>>165852769
>more like MrBronze
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>>165851995
misha buff is nice but the rest looks like nothing
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>>165852671
I really really really she ends up being release-Lunara tier
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>>165851773
Murky needed more nerfs
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>>165853027
hope*
>>
>this tassadar rework
OH GOD YES
>>
>New Talent: Animal Husbandry (Passive)
>Rexxar and Misha gain 2 Maximum Health every second Rexxar remains alive. These bonuses are lost on Rexxar's death.
The true way to play Rexxar is as a total bitch now. End the game with 16000 health. Become unkillable.
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hotsg, Valeera looks fun... I think I love her already
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>>165853184
Just afk at base the whole game then rush the core solo with a gazillion hp
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>>165853184
there has to be a cap, I refuse to believe it's unlimited
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>>165853268
fuck this, if this becomes viable I'm going to main Leoric and SSS Kharazim
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>>165853027
Her skills are probably all point and click
>alarak gets a rewarding hard to hit silence
>lol let,s just make hers point and click
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>>165853337

just tychus the shit out of him
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>>165853337
>Drain hope misha once
>do 20000 hero dmg
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>>165853393

Looks like Q is skillshot like Illidan dash.
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>>165853268
>>165853316
After doing some maths...
Assuming you hit lvl 4 at 3 or 4 mins in, and the game continues for another 25 minutes to make it a maybe 30 minute game, you get 3000 hp each, assuming you dont die.
ASSUMING you dont die, which will be hard, because youre Rexxar. There will be those people who can pull it off though on maps where the objective doesnt just straight up end the game, but it wont be THAT bad.
Plus, that means youd have shitters playing Rexxar. Just hope they arent on your team.
>>
when will the ptr be up?
>>
anduin when

need to be able to make hs hero teams
>>
There had better be a lengthy cool down on Valeera's vanish that doesn't begin until she comes out of stealth or she's going to be pure cancer.
>>
Misha changes are fucking garbage.
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>>165853861

I was so used to using D all the time to recall her. Looks like Ill have to relearn Rexxar again.
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>>165853774
why anduin? if anything we need garrosh to be a proper tank since rexxar can't do it by himself
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>>165853960
Yeah, I hate this.
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>>165851039
Does anyone in this general actually play hots?
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>>165854008
Garrosh will never be a tank.
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>>165854008
>>165854062

Garrosh will be a specialist a la Xul
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>>165853837
Blizzard is balancing the game around edgy assasin only kiddies so that they get lots of "epic pentakill highlight montages" on youtube without lil' kevin getting frustrated. What did you expect?
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>>165852660
That regen globe quest looks pretty steep, but fuck if perma-shields isn't an enticing benefit.
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>>165851995
Looks pretty good so far. Not sure about removing Misha Attack/Follow. Not being able to take both Crippling Talons and Aspect of the beast is the only thing I outright don't like. Animal Husbandry has the potential to be REALLY good. I'll have to try him on the PTR
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>>165854056

Yes, we do. Your question was pretty stupid so it got ignored.

Literally no one in QM cares who or how you play. Just play and unlock dudes.
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>>165854062
>>165854118
he will be a tank or a bruiser don't be stupid now
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>>165852297
She might have Energy.
So basically Manaless.
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>>165853027
i do too so trash won't buy her. 38%wr would be perfect.
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>>165854202
>support won't help
At least I know it's a stupid question now. Thanks for the advice, I guess.
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open the PTR up already blizzshit
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Will combo points decay over time? So Valeera cant just roam between lanes with 2 points, stun a guy out of invis, and burst him?
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>>165854729

I'm sure it will be a per target applied thing like WoW
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>>165854249
>he will be a tank
>even if he never used a shield in 10 years of wow

ok
>>
Rexxar changes why
Why did they touch him
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>>165854861
>Sinister Strike Valla
>Clip a siege minion
>Combo points aren't on Valla
JUST
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>>165854861
They are bound to you in wow now.
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not good enough to replace my gazlowe portrait but man it's close
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>>165854864
>you need to have a shield to be a tank
he just needs his muscles and his thick orc skin
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>Lunar Rooster is a gold and free mount.

Blizzard you glorious bastards.
>>
>Vanish's cooldown is 8 seconds.
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>>165855575
Game is ded, nothing to see here
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>>165855190
>the free rooster looks good while the paid one looks shit
lol
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>>165854964
it probably will function like current combo points do on WoW where they are not stored on your target but on yourself.
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>>165855190

i want to remind you all why the rooster mount is an important meme

in russian prison castes, the lowest caste is basically called the "fallen" or the "lowered" and are individually called as roosters. rooster is basically a synonym for faggot in russian slang.
>>
>Lunar event is a chicken racing event

CHOCOBO RACING

IN HOTS????

MUH

D I C K
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>>165855190
reminder that event mounts cant be used in HL.
gotta pay the 30k golden shekels to ride your cock into HL.
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>>165856282
? why not?
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>>165824451
0/10
i wont believe this
this is the most boring ability set ive heard in my whole moba life
even plasmagun as new mechanic wont fix this
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>>165856282
retard
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>>165856141
Roosters are also called Cocks.
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>>165856141
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>>165856338
how would I know?
>>
Am I stupid or did it seem like the lvl 1 poison talent for Valeera didn't have a cooldown.
>>
>valeera kills Ming in literally a second
prepare for a nova treatment
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>>165856282
If your talking about the stupid goblin mount it's a bug. They've said it's a rare bug.
>>
>say "leoric rework soon" like 4 months ago
>...
>...
>peddit asks for tassadar rework
>no rework
>peddit asks for tassadar rework some more
>here u go!

where is leoric rework?
>>
>>165856798
soon™
>>
>>165856669
>shes going to be buffed

good
>>
>>165856760
link to blue post?
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>>165856798
I'm still waiting as well, WTF Blizz
>>
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/heroes/topic/20752651047
>the next hero isn't a wc assassin
what's the point ffs
>>
Is the PTR up boys? Someone link Valeera talents.
>>
>>165857227
I'm reading them right now

>3 extra skill buttons
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvMKpVGD4WE
blizzard at it again with the freshest memes
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>>165857180
kek
>>
hello friends im that new player that posted earlier. ive been trying to do what you all said but i have a question

why does jaina feel so weak? am i just ass?
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>>165857557
>don't worry I'm both rouge and a rogue, so no matter how poorly you spell you're covered
nice
>>
>>165857701
>am i just ass?
I think so.
>>
>>165857557
>try getting it out
Thanks Mr. Trump

>>165857701
either shit talent or you are shit
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>>165857701
Jaina is pretty weak, but she is also hard to play since you have to play both aggressively because of how short ranged her abilities are and also watch your positioning. Missing your abilities as well is huge, it's not like li-ming where it doesn't matter because you have such long CDs on your basic abilities.
>>
>>165857557
>I'm a subtly outlaw assassin
>orc shoulderpad joke

nice
>>
>>165857180
>w-well from our perspective it's not so bad!

every single blue post I've seen on blizz forums
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>>165857960
Their perspective is the only one that matter anyway.
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>>165857180
>Don't worry guys we just got finished nerfing Samuro into the ground because we can't balance stealth heroes for shit, but we are confident you are going to enjoy this brand new stealth hero.
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>>165857903
>Jaina is pretty weak
nah
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>>165857180
>Ragnaros a core replacement hero

I'm curious how they'd manage to do something like this without it either being useless or overpowered.
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>>165857557
>10:22
>I say we kill the big guy
SOMEONE GET THIS HOTHEAD OUTTA HERE
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>>165858358
One of the designs had him being able to jump from fort to fort, to core. He was also going to be able to send out a minion that had abilities you could control.
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>>165858478
>One of the designs had him being able to jump from fort to fort, to core

Thats interesting. Did it still have the "allied and destroyed forts" thing like current Ragnaros does? Which could make taking forts even more important to open up how much space your Rag would have to move around.
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>>165857557
>Thrall you're warchief again? Whatever happened to Sylvanas?
This is merely bait right? There's no way they'd have a WoW plot spoiler, right?
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>>165857557
kek at the laughs straight into the deaths
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>>165858657
Not sure, it's just something they briefly brought up at Blizzcon during the panel. They got rid of it because people spent most of the time controlling the minion and they wanted you to be Rag.

It's where the idea of just making Rag a normal hero came from I think.
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>>165858659
she says that because thrall has the warchief title in hots
>>
>>165858821
Makes sense.

Hope we get a proper core replacement hero at some point though.
>>
>>165858659
It's Thrall from WC3. She's confusing him with the Thrall from her time.
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>There's a talent to make Vanish a 5 second cooldown.
>Vanish refreshes cooldown.
>She has either a 2 second silence, or a stun every 5 seconds.

I hate this game.
>>
>>165858358
https://youtu.be/XZY8TBT0J2s?t=29m36s
if you are interested
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Gunna post the talents and decriptions from PTR

>Vigor

2 passive energy regen - Collect 20 globes to increase max energy by 20

>Subtelty

10 energy per 5 seconds when breaking stealth with an ability

>Combat Readiness

Each combo point spent gives a charge of block - 50 physical - 3 charge cap

>Crippling Poison

15 sec CD active, next spell damage caused slows for 25% for 3 sec
>>
good lord vallera looks so fun
>>
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WHERE ARE THE VIDEOS ABOUT VALEERA FAGGOTS.
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>Relentless Strikes

Sinister strike cost reduced by 10

>Hemorrhage

Basic attacks deal 25% additional damage to targets affected by Garrote

>Initiative

Spells from stealth give 2 combo points

>Wound Poison

15 sec CD active, next spell damage caused reduces healing received by 50% for 4 sec
>>
Valeera is actually hard to play.
>>
>>165859372
>reduce enemy healing
>at level fucking 4
Why?
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>>165857557
>Everything orcs have is oversized
>Ughhh ribs are still sore
>>
>>165859514
Because fuck you.
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>Mutilate

Sinister strike hits for 100% additional damage but range is reduced by 1 (makes it super short)

>Fatal Finesse

Quest: Each time blade flurry damages a hero, increases damage by 30 up to cap of 60

Complete: Reduce energy cost of blade flurry by 20

>Slice and Dice

Eviscerating with 3 CP gives next 3 basic attacks 150% attack speed (complete with neat animation)

>Assassinate

Ambush deals 100% additional damage if no other enemy heroes are within 5 range of the victim
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>>165859405
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>Smoke Bomb

60 Sec CD

Unrevealable, 5 sec duration, 25% armour while remaining inside smoke

Cloak of Shadows

25 Sec CD

1 sec of unstoppable and 75% SPELL armour
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>>165859771
t. silver
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>>165859791
why would anyone take cloak tho
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>Elusiveness

Additional 10% move speed in stealth (Already has 10% base so total of 20% over normal)

>Death from above

Ambush has a range of 5 and teleports you to the victim

>Blind

When Cheap shot expires, the victim is blinded for 2.5 sec (this is fucking absurd)

>Strangle

Garrote reduces ability damage dealt of the victim by 25% for 7 seconds
>>
>>165859821

>self cleanse on 25 sec cd

I wonder
>>
>>165859803
Silver if you think she's fucking hard. Yeah. The only thing you have to do is learn the proper combo. Once you have that down it's fucking easy.

Vanish is Samuro's E, only time won't reveal you, and gives you access to a stealth or silence. She completely deletes any squishy. Can stop healing, can get vanish every 5 seconds. Has an ult that gives her perma stealth in an aoe.

How the fuck is she hard to play?
>>
>>165859984
>Death From Above
*teleports behind u*
heh...
>>
>>165860006
>self cleanse when you can avoid being cc'ed in the first place

??????
>>
Any changes to Tassadar on ptr?
>>
>>165860006
can you cast it while stunned?
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>>165859984
>blind
This kills the Zul'jin.
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>>165857557
>I'm a rogue but I can't perform miracles, not after that nerf anyway

kek
>>
In the PTR can I use every hero or I need to buy them ?
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>Seal Fate

Sinister strike deals an aditional 50% damage and generates 2CP when you hit a silenced, rooted or stunned hero

>Rupture

Basic attacks refresh Garrote's dot component

>Expose armour

Eviscrate causes the target to lose 25 armour for 2 sec

>Thistle Tea

60 sec active, grants 100 energy, usable while stealthed

>>165859821

Forgot to mention it cleanses dots. Might be good against Gul'dan/Lunara/KT or some shit idk
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>>165860128
He was completely reworked.
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>>165860163
Zul'jin was dead on release.
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>>165860190
>tea
aha now i can instant delete 2 squishies instead of one
http://pl.aaa.si/u/0gprKeMw.mp4
balanced
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>>165860190
Wait so she has energy and combo points? She isnt resourceless?
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>Adrenaline Rush

Gain 30 energy per sec while in the smoke bomb

>Enveloping Shadows

Whenever valeera uses vanish she also gains cloak of shadows

>Nightslayer

Reduced the cooldown of vanish by 3 sec (down to 5 seconds)

>Cold Blood

45 Sec CD active

Next eviscerate deals 100% extra damage, useable in stealth.

>>165860404

No she is not resourceless. Energy stops you from just spamming shit to rediculous levels but its pretty lenient still. CP is only used for eviscerate.
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>>165860404
She builds up energy over time, and combo points just empower eviscerate.
>>
>>165860357
I dont really feel bad that she can specifically fuck over Li Ming
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>>165860496
>every vanish is a cleanse
>>
>want to test valeera
>600 queue
>go ai with elite ai
>all my bots stay in the base doing nothing

What now?
>>
>>165860617
The only people playing PTR are the people that want to play Valeera. What did you think was going to happen?
>>
>>165860743
I want to know how to fix my fucking bots. Ping is not working either.
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>>165859984
>Blind

>When Cheap shot expires, the victim is blinded for 2.5 sec (this is fucking absurd)

jesus christ
>>
>>165859984
>teleports behind opponent
>kill line: nothing personel kid

pls blizzard do this right.
>>
>Queue for QM
>Tab out
>See the PTR is finally up
>Tab back in
>Match is ready!
Why do I get instant games now? Fuck off Blizzard
>>
>>165860129
nope
>>
>>165860121

>60 second cooldown
>??????
>>
glad they added another hero i can brainlessly stomp with and laugh when people complain about said hero
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>>165861956
I don't get it then
>>
>smoke bomb in front of a fort to kill a hero

nice
>>
ROOSTER ISN'T A CASH MOUNT FUCK YES I AM STOKED AS FUCK
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>>165860617

Wait two weeks if you want to play that broken shitter
>>
>>165862461
basically for vanish so a dot doesnt pull you out of stealth i guess like the 20 talent that gives you cloak whenever you vanish , you could also evade a stun that you see comming or negate(-75%dmg) a pyroblast
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>>165862461

>8 second CD magic invulnerabilty and self cleanse
>"lol nah i take dps ulti!!!"

This is why you're dirt league
>>
What's the energy cost on all her abilities? Including stealth abilities
>>
>>165860213
>He was completely
He was completely killed, holy fuck i don't like the new Tassadar
>>
>>165863092
You do release with the other ult you can't be reveled right. The only way they can is if they take you out of the smoke bomb, which is what only horrify.

It enables a lot of your damage at every little risk and it has a short cooldown. If you think a one second unstoppable is better than that you are crazy.Your going to use it and then get destroyed once it stops.
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>play zagara
>have plenty of fun
>illidan appears and shits on me
>play valla
>have plenty of fun
>illidan appears and shits on me
>>
>valeera can only get points from heroes

wew lad
>>
>>165863724
you know how people walk away when butcher brands them or taz'dingo uses zul'jin?

guess what they'll do with your smoke
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>>165864947
same thing they do when hyperion uses raynor, right?
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>>165848640
What ever happened to that death knight that could still use the light?
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Valeera feels absolutely fucking amazing in the Try Mode, day 1 buy. That indev did her no justice whatsoever.
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>>165865569
Is the talents, judging a hero without reading his talents is retarded as fuck.
>>
There is a 1110% chance Tassadar's unique giant slayer will be nerfed.
>>
>>165865670
judging a hero without knowing what his skills do, like someone did, is even more retarded
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>spend year fixing Rexxar bear controls
>finally make it good
>now fuck it up and take them all away
?????
>>
>>valeera on hots beta
>>one of her lines is "Thrall you're warchief again? What happened to Sylvanas?"

Is this true or was some random anon full of shit?
>>
>Valeera feels like a rogue

Whew, I'm pleasantly surprised. That In-Dev video left too much to the imagination.

>>165866421
Uh, you can set ally in Try Mode. Lemme go check real quick.
>>
>>165866072
Rexxar's going to be total garbage, right?
>>
>>165864947
>Walk away from an objective.
>Start a team fight, delete back line, smoke bomb and fucking either keep fighting or not die.

>Shitty self cleanse for 1 second that will just kill you again.

I just saw someone using it against an Alarak. Alarak pulled, he used it to stop silence and they still died a second later because it didn't fucking matter.
>>
>>165860189
should be everything but the last 6 unless they changed it again.
>>
>>165866523
Bear is such ass to control now
You have to constantly spam it to stay still or it will once again charge to hit something
>>
>>165863449
It felt like they nerfed his healing because of the cooldown increase and he still has no way of actually healing. I guess he might work in a rehgar+thrall combo wombo team
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>>165866569
it's rather tiny and hopefully doesn't last too long, so it's not like they're giving up the objective by walking away, though it'll surely be nice for capping bosses and such

if you can reach and poop on the back line just like that then you might as well b-walk and dance instead of using your ult because you've already won the game
>>
>>165866506
>Uh, you can set ally in Try Mode. Lemme go check real quick.

please do, thanks.
>>
>>165867134
You come of stealth. Use your combo, and then pop your ult.

Meanwhile the only other thing the ult is good for is when your running for your life and you want to dodge one stun. It won't do shit anywhere else.
>>
>tfw 150k gold
>tfw no time to do cock quest
>tfw just gonna have to buy the golden one
>>
>Absolutely no Zul'jin buffs

Okay, what the fuck assholes?
>>
>>165867675
He doesn't need buffs.
>>
If you buy something in the PTR does it come to your real account?
>>
>kneejerk reaction from bronzies and dirt leagues about how strong Valeera is

Enjoy it while you can, she will be dumpster tier soon enough
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>>165867882
Yes.
>>
>>165867882
Yes.

>>165867997
She's not very good in a real team enviroment.
>>
>>165867997
>mentioning that overreacting is bad
>overreacts
>>
>>165868072

Which us exactly why she will be nerfed into oblivion

Blizzard cares more about QM babies than they do anything else, and that's where she will shine
>>
>>165867515
Nothing so far. Might have to play her in something other than Try Mode, sorry.

>>165867997
Mhm. She's looking a bit like Zeratul in that she'll often just be...useless. And like Li-Ming in that she'll have a 90% play rate even with a 42% win rate.

Wish the roster was bigger like League so Heroes were forgotten about more quickly, with the exception of the recent robot lady.
>>
Is cold blood bugged? It have 0 cooldown right now and it say 45.
>>
>>165866421
see >>165857557 at 6:33
>>
How long until we get Valeera SFM smut?
>>
>>165868672
Yes it is.
>>
>>165866421
Thrall is titled as Warchief in HotS while Sylvanas isn't that's the joke
>>
>>165869085
Might be a bug.
>>
>>165867997
>bronzies totally overreacting
>she will get nerfed tho
Doesn't sound like they are overreacting
>>
>>165867997
>>165868072
>>165868180
>Ranged poke
>Self-sustaining heals or shield
>Easy to use/reliable escape

As long as it has two of these, it's a viable melee Assassin. So of course she won't be used.

Only safe pussy shit makes it to the "big leagues".
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>>165869283
Good thing they use the PTR to patch bugs before they make it into live... oh wait

I shall enjoy this 0 cooldown cold blood on live
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>>165868951
Only if it involves Varian and BHC
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>>165869550
She doesn't have a ranged poke
No shield
Vanish is not reliable to scape
>>
>>165834048
Uhh... most drawfags are pretty terrible, anon. Normies (people who can't draw and never tried) think pretty much anything outside of deviantart is incredible, though.
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>>165869550
When are they going to address this, anyways? Is it even acknowledged?

Playing any melee just feels too risky when you can sit back like a bitch and poke with chain lightning, meteor or whatever other "melee" heroes are viable, because diving with Tyrael ult is scary and risky, as opposed to sitting back and poking with Malf/Brightwing.

Just spitballin'. Maybe I'm stupid and/or wrong.
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>>165857557
>that laugh
>think it's katarina VA
>it is
>>
>>165867675
not much to change aside from guillotine and the usual deck chair rearranging talent tweaks.

>>165867882
with real money purchases yes. no gold buys, unlocks, or leveling progress transfers.

>>165868503
nobody will remember zul'jin exists in 3 months so i think that's already starting. the real plus is they have similar characters to balance off of. something like zul'jin coming out really good or bad at this point would be bad work.
>>
>>165857180
He could have atleast told us what role the next hero was going to be

inb4 it's another assasin
>>
>>165869710
You're not wrong, and nobody points this out. "Top picks" are generally whatever is safest to cradle your own ass with, and you can't really play a melee without playing like a ranged half the game. Nobody mentions this beyond "Oh this hero is good and this one isn't.", Blizzard sure as shit hasn't mentioned it, because they're too busy reworking Warriors a million times over. They have a good opportunity with this Armor thing, anything that isn't the super safe usual shit could at least be getting some Armor somewhere in their kit outside of just Block charges, to help offset not having ranged poke or sustainability, if they're going to keep this shit up.
>>
>>165864342
>Play azmodan
>Have plenty of fun
>Illidan appears
>He's an Illidan player so he thinks he can just manmode and 1v1 the fuckbeam

Tasty, tasty sin
>>
Try the new Rexxar and tell me what you think
>>
>>165870432
Yeah, it seems an odd thing to balance. The Butcher, for instance, can 1-2 shot people if he makes it to late game, but just gets annihilated in a team fight above Platinum without crazy coordination/support.

>>165870664
They fucked with his controls again. Feels weird, but I'm not a Rexxar player.

>You can pick a talent at 4(?) which gives you an increased 2 permenant HP every second, for the rest of the game

like yo hol up wats this
>>
>>165870774
>wats this
Noob/pub bait. Watch every pub shitter take it.
>>
>>165869710
mana pools are supposed to do this but it doesn't really work out often aside from well matched coordinated teamfights sputtering out. even with brightwing when it's obvious you should bait pokes and outsustain the other team the game ends up in full dive stupidity.
>>
>>165871839
Can you draw
Ctrl+s anon
>>
How many heroes do they release per month? I heard from someone that they release a hero every 2 weeks, is that right?
>>
>>165871930

Mobile, sorry not available to me at the time.
I can but not professionally or anything. I'm just an old beat up drawhore that lost passion long ago.
>>
>>165872041

Release every 3 weeks, teaser during the second week. They've been consistant for about a year now so pretty steady release schedule.
>>
>>165857180
>Next up was Ragnaros.
>Originally, we had pitched him as a Core-Replacement Hero, who would influence the battlefield from afar.
>Something we had penciled in as a Specialist.
>About 2 months into development, however, we moved away from that design to the Ragnaros you know today.
>We considered leaving him a Specialist, but thought his role as a Bruiser would be more accurately reflected as Assassin, a la Thrall.
wooow
>>
>>165872308
They literally relabeled him as an Assassin because he deals too much damage.
That's not OK for QM, since that leads to one team being stuck with Xul or some shit, while the other gets a counter Xul with better damage.
>>
>>165872183
Sweet. Thanks, anon.
>>
>>165872308
>we could have had molten core 2: lava boogaloo
>instead we get yet another warcraft assassin
wew lad
>>
>>165872508
there is no Specialist rule for qm
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>>165872508
>implying qm has role mm
lamoing
Literally just today my team in QM had zero supports while the enemy team had three (3) of them. Happens all of the time for all roles.
>>
>The Golden Cock is 10,000 gold

Guess I'm buying Valeera and fucking Kharazim with cash.

Christ
>>
>>165872917

*in blizzard voice* we got em
>>
>>165872917
>nexus mount brought back for 30k
>rooster purchasable for 10k

Makes me wonder what they're doing with the "Loot" feature, and if you'll be able to throw gold at it.
>>
Need a new lads we autosage
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NEW BREAD WHERE
>>
>>165872629
Blame the people only playing the Son of Flame.
>>
>>165872917
Haha, why? Just spend gold. You have gold, right?

I am here trying to figure out if ten bucks is worth playing Val now as opposed to two weeks from now. I really hope they don't do some crazy reactionist nerf since she's apparently like prenerf Nova.

I like the whole D to change your skills. If Kae wasn't so bleh, I'd like him too but fuck Ranged mages.
>>
>They somehow made Tass more boring.

How do they do it?
>>
>>165872917
>100k main account
>30-50k on four vulture smurfs
>tfw i only log on one or twice a week to do dailies
>>
How is Valeera? Primed to terrorize QM for a week before the inevitable nerfs or release Lunara bad?
>>
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Migrate whenever:

>>/vp/31411138
>>/vp/31411138
>>/vp/31411138
>>/vp/31411138
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>>165874223
she's nova with a longass stun
so yeah qm terror
>>
>>165873463
Lili riding a big cock haahahhahaha
>>
>>165874223
Uh, imagine a melee Nova.

Like, Zeratul without an escape, unless I misread her D.
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>wake up
>illidan is in my closet
>take a shit
>illidan is in the bathtub
>play 6 matches in QM
>illidan is in them
>go out with a girl
>illidan is serving the food
>go and rest
>illidan is in my nightmare
>>
>>165872041
it's a 4 week gap live to live usually. some people have been confused by the ptrs and events into thinking it's faster.
>>
>>165874668
>it's a the hunt illidan and you have no stasis nor a team that gives a fuck about you
>>
>>165874668
I almost never see illidan anymore, idk why. I guess those people just all pick kerrigan now
>>
>>165873868

>Why? Just spend gold. You have gold, right?

No. I don't win games, and constant losing made me play some other things that don't stress me the fuck out as much.

I have trouble improving against superior foes, and I'm not ashamed to admit I'm a shitter at HoTS. I'd love to get better, but I'm bad. Really, really bad. Plus when I'm bad and my team goes howler monkey negative, loss is inevitable.
>>
>>165874668
go out with tyrande and see if he's still serving
>>
>>165875339
Time is gold, friend. Log on, clear out your dailies, do the brawl then anything else.

You aren't going to make gold from winning games unless you're farming Vs. AI matches in <5 minutes with a Stim.
>>
pretty sure valeera is bugged, cold blood at 20 has no CD
>>
>>165875537
Neither does the level 1 talent.
>>
>>165872090
All good if you're doing requests that great
>>
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>win +200
>lose -205
>points needed promote: 208

JUST
>>
>>165875575

Escape confirmed

VIABILITY POSSIBLY CONFIRMED
>>
page 10
someone create a fucking thread already
>>
>>165875732
let this doggy die
>>
>>165875675
It's a bug.
>>
>>165875732
Game is dead, might aswell kill these threads
>>
>getting pretty complex, intricate, difficult Heroes
>base game is still braindead as shit


God damn it.
>>
>>165876059
What improvement do you suggest? I don't really see what you mean
>>
>>165876059
And people still trickle in
>>
>>165876737
He just wants last hitting, solo xp, gold and items I bet.
>>
>>165876903
Eh, not necessarily. They didn't include any of that, which is fine, but there isn't really anything to take their place.

>>165876737
Just the nonexistently low skill floor, which is why the game has the reputation that it has.
>>
>5 warcraft assassins a row
>the next hero is almost certainly kelthuzad
>blizz cocksuckers will defend this

holy shit
>>
>>165877276
They just posted on the forums about how they were sorry about the way the character releases went and made it sound like the next one won't be Warcraft or assassin related.
>>
>>165877418

actually they never said the next hero wouldn't be warcraft or assassin. they didn't say more diversity was coming shortly, they specifically said that "one year from now" we would look back and say the schedule was diverse. that implies we are getting more warcraft assassins, and it is absolutely certain kelthuzad is either next or the one after.
>>
>>165877612
I mean if you want to set yourself up for that disappoint go right ahead.
>>
>>165877276
>next hero is kt

eh what'd i miss
>>
>>165877612
>and it is absolutely certain kelthuzad is either next or the one after.
I have been reading this since 2014.
>>
>>165877916
Nothing.
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HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN IN TEAM LEAUGE
>>
>>165878256
>>165877916
>>165878306

No point in spoonfeeding mouthbreathers. keep talking out of your ass, i'm sure you make a lot of friends :)
>>
>>165878327
>six level advantage

Nicely done.

>>165878412
What.
>>
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>>165878412
>>
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>>165878327
I'm honestly having a meltdown over this game.
>>
>>165877146
That's not a suggestion of improvement. Do you have one, concretely? How would you change the game exactly if you could?
>>
>>165878327
>pick Vikings
>Jeeze why we winning with a 6 level advantage???
>>
>>165878567
>Chadhaka damage

Good grief.

>>165878572
Yeah, of course. It's all senseless theorycrafting, though. I just play the game on and off and hope to see improvements.

Armor and Magic Resistance, for example.
>>
>>165878567
>Vikings didn't die once.

What?
>>
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>>165878591
I have never had a 6 level lead, nor a seven level as >>165878567 shows. Literally, in 159 games, the highest I've ever gotten is three or four levels ahead. they literally all just death balled mid. They never stopped doing this, they never even bothered trying. I honestly feeling

>>165878758
the game rounds down, each viking died once. Once.
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>>165878412

what?
>>
>>165878712
Like what they literally added in last patch?
>>
>>165878832
I'm honestly feeling like I was in the twilight zone*
>>
>>165878534
>>165878534

Embed edition new
>>
>>165878567
Did they actually try to properly fight back? I'd say high chance one or more of them disconnected and they gave up
>>
>>165878870
Well, yeah. Obviously.

>>165878832
Highest I think I've seen is six. It was on Infernal Shrines and we obliterated them at the firsts objective and I just spent the whole game clearing off lanes on Xul.
>>
>>165878492
>>165878513
>>165878838
the retard is talking about the leak list but he forget all the other heroes mentioned in it.
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