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Time To Purge edition
May you find your worth in the archive: >>165663745

>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp
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PURGE FILTH

Also filter and ignore tripfags
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First for hunter of hunters
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>>165733886
want some nice juicy blood dregs?
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>>165734021

FILL ME WITH YOUR DREGS SENPAI
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Did I do good?
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>>165733886
>tfw alfred is pretty much covered in what may aswell be the blood dregs
>tfw alfred is covered in bloodcum
no wonder he wheeled himself
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>>165734096
looks decent memefriend
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>>165734109
The meat chunks of your whore queen are not the same as dregs. Those are for her, and she only wants strong seed from strong hunters, not you prissy little faggot Vilebloods.
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>giants in the wrong places
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>>165733786
you cucks are still here? lmao
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>>165734282
the fuck on about m8?
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>He pronounces it P-tu-ma-ru
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>>165734282
back to /dsg/ you go
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>>165734282
>assblasted /dsg/ fag because bloodborne wont come to xbox or pc
rubadubdub faggot
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>>165734380
how the fuck is it pronounced anyway? is it like chu-ma-ru or something?
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>>165734532
tomb air ee an

it's a portmanteau of 'tomb' and 'Sumerian'
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>>165734096
A solid 6 out of 10.

>>165734532
tu-ma-ru

Long U, short A
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>>165734615
I thought it was thoo-mare-E-ehn
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>>165734532
I've always prounounce it "thu-marry-an"
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>>165734771
not him, but it's better than youre dykes atleast
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>>165734825
Wow, you're so super jealous of them that you even bring it up when I haven't even posted them. That's a new level of sad and pathetic. LOL
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>>165734825
>youre ;^)
but yeah, this
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>>165734917
>LOL
>not your usual perfect grammar
cmon luci youre slipping
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Rate my burger kinghurst cosplay.
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>>165734952
If you are going to follow me all over 4chan to shit post, at least try to keep it relevant to the thread's topic.
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>>165735080
oppest of the keks
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>finding someone in /dsg/ who's biggest gripe with bloodborne is that guns are overpowered
>thinks beast blood pellet + fire paper is completely fine because it "needs you to be close to the boss" despite it destroying bosses like ludwig in 20 seconds because you either stunlock them or just break all their legs which stuns them anyway
>doesn't even make mention of the chikage which is the real strength of any bloodtinge build

I don't get these people.
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>>165735153
Toppest*
;^)
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>>165735153
I never got what this was supposed to convey. People already know I am not a trophy whore, and I play at my own pace.
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>tfw pizza, diet coke, bloodborne and /bbg/
couldnt get much comfier
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>discovered hintertombs depths 4 and 5 six months ago

>have not shared how to get them with anyone

>msgs in those chalices have not been rated yet
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>>165736113
dude we just had bergenwerth basement bait today, cool your jets
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>>165736217
its the same guy anon
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>>165736217
>>165736331

BAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>165736113
>>165736217
>he hasn't found the byrgenwerth student hat that lets him attend a lecture led by Amygdala
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So, I'm playing through the DLC and when I was getting invaded by Brador, the first time he showed up, I tumbled off the bridge and died to fall damage and now he won't show up there (but did in the other three places). If I kill him in his cell, will I still get his stuff?
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>>165736517
>he attended the lecture
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>>165736602
yes, aftr you kill him ust search the spot where he doesnt show up, the item will be on the floor
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>>165734096
S L I D E R S

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>>165736663
Thanks.
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Hey where that Madman Amelia-anon used to farm 16% Phys triangles? Was it the standard Hintertomb or a Root/ Lower/ Lower Root?
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>>165734454
i literally only have a ps4 for this gen and have the bb plat. just dont get what you'd still be doing in this game lol
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Where do i put my leftover points in a skill build?

At 40/20/10/50/7/8 it puts me at bl 85, do i raise vit to 50, str to 25 or blt?
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>>165737439
Are you planning it or already deep into it? Lone Survivor would be better to start with. If you plan on using Burial Blade, Saif, Church Pick, Saw Spear, any other Skill weapon with some Strength scaling go 25 Str. If you're sticking to Rakuyo, BoM, Bowblade, etc with little to no Str scaling, go with Vit. Don't bother with 25 Blt.
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>>165737602
Still planning it, why lone survivor instead of professional?
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>>165737710
It moves the extra point from Arc into Str, which is more useful since it'll let you use Loch Shield. Your best options are Military Veteran: 45/12/25/50/10/6 or Lone Survivor: 50/20/11/50/10/7, which both leave you at 98 if you care about the meme meta. There's never a reason to pick Professional over the other two unless you plan to add Arc for Tools in a Skill build.
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So how do I get the bloodborne platinum theme? I got the plat a week or so ago and they emailed me 4 days ago with a congratulations email but no code for a theme? I thought that was how it worked but
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>>165737959
It should come shortly after the congratulating email, maybe sometime within the week.
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>>165738050
thanks good hunter, just wanted to make sure
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so what are your theories about who crowsteele is? lets hear some meme worthy theories
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>>165738168
always assumed he's a hunter of hunters from cainhurst
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How do i get out of the rape dungeon bbg everyone is rapibg me like im a cute middle school girl
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Anyone wants to coop?
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>98
Why thoooo
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>>165738838
absolutely no one is forcing you to stick to the 98 meme meta
go 97 or 120 if you want to do you really need to be told what to do like a little girl
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>>165738838
It ended up like this for reasons. If you want to fc with us stop anywhere between 80 and 120.
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>try smashing Annalise before giving the invitation to Alfred
>she falls on the floor painting heavily
As expected of the vilewhore but now I'm considerably aroused.
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>>165741851
>My blood! You've spiled my blood!
Damn that fight was intense but this way he can enjoy his martyrdom without doing sudoku.
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>>165737319
Bump.
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where's that image showing a list of all the weapons and guns and magical items in the game?
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A niggling little thing, is there any tell am missing which teaches which enemies which can be parried ? Stuff like the village mob I assumed you could, but stuff like the giant that strolls outta the church in the dlc which is guarding the firey cleric beast looking thing could be parried, which at first I thought it was too big to fall for that shit.
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Does the axe benefit from blunt gems?
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>>165743635
Only tricked
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>>165744116
Thank you
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Quick, post your /fa/ hoonters!
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>buy this game
>already loving the atmosphere and setting
>die at the first beast you encounter
>eh whatever
>get my weapons and tips from the hub and return to kill the beast pretty easily
>go outside and I'm immersed by everything
>this game is pretty good so far
>find my way to central yharnam and encounter the mobs and patrols
>try to be stealthy with pebbles but end up dying 4 times, the last time getting mauled by a fucking dog
>kill them all on my next attempt but I'm out of pebbles now
>sneak past that big fucker and kill some crows
>get wrecked by two dogs up some stairs
>I'm back to square one and lost all of my blood, and I know that dog has all of it
>get killed by the mob again
>start over
>get back to the dogs and patrol at the staircase
>slay them
>the big fucker caught wind and gives chase
>I run up to the bridge and see two more werewolves
>figure I have to take them out now
>get 3 hits in that don't do shit then I get mauled
>I start back over yet again
>watch some gameplay on youtube and see the staircase I was supposed to go down and some armor I could have found in a dungeon
>after all of that is said and done I see you end back up at the damn beginning
>quit the game and uninstall out of anger

is it like this throughout the whole game? you die at the last part only to play the whole thing over again? I really wanna like this game and play it but shit, if it's gonna be like this I can't deal with the repetitive nature. I understand that returning to the hub is what saves your progress, but the enemies don't respawn do they?
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>>165744902
Gitgud
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>>165744902
ebic bro
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>>165744902
That loop you described is actually a really useful shortcut. As trite as "git gud" is, that's really the baseline advice. The key to combat is timing: learn how long it takes your weapons to swing and recover, get an enemy alone and learn his attacks and how to dodge them, and DON'T BUTTON MASH, it triggers tunnel vision and locks you into an attack animation right when the rest of the mob winds up. As general advice for early game groups, use the secondary function of your weapon: all the starting ones have much wider swings when opened, allowing you to juggle the crowd instead of working your way through them one at a time.
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>>165744902
>getting angry you wind up back at the beginning

You are the first person I have ever seen to be mad at the concept of a shortcut
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>>165744902
You need more eyes.
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>>165744902
Anon, the games allure comes from increasing your skill and understanding how an enemy moves and attacks. I spent a stupid amount of time in central Yharnam on my first playthorugh and now I clear it in about 1hr. The real fun comes when you encounter a boss and you have a whole new unique enemy to learn how to beat, some of the best moments where Gasgoines boss fight where every death i had to learn something from him.
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>>165745536
I was getting the hang of the combat, using my pistol and got a couple of visceral kills and using the secondary function like you described, and it definitely helped with range. I had the guys trapped in staircases and I made quick work of them at one point. I get how you're supposed to play, dodge in, get some quick hits in then dodge back out. I just don't know if I have the patience to start all over again and kill the same people if I end up dying, which I assume will be a lot early on.
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>>165745693
>spending a fucking hour in central yharnam

What the fuck? Are you doing a BL4 fist only run?
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>>165745812
just run past them, most enemies won't follow you for long
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>>165745654
I didn't know it was a shortcut, you don't get any log of what you're doing or supposed to do, I didn't know where to go until I watched a walk-through. I haven't used a guide in years but I guess I will on this one.

>>165745690
I did go in blind
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>>165745812
Agreed, the learning curve is rough up through the first mandatory boss. First, I suggest you get back to the bridge: just run past the Resident Evil 4 tribute and the werewolves and bum rush the far end of the bridge. That's going to sound like really stupid advice when you get there, but after that you'll be able to level up, and from there you can grab some echoes, pull back and spend them before going out again. Also, save your vials if you can, drop rates decrease the more times you kill an enemy.
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>>165746157
It's an inside joke, you'll figure it out eventually.

See what I did there?
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>Ebriatas and Cleric Beast used to be in the Grand Cathedral
>Amelia was in the Witches' Abode

Project Beast was a whole different ball game
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who is this dildo
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>>165746206
so run past the werewolves to the far end of the bridge? yeah that doesn't sound promising for me, but I'll try it. what happens then? I get killed by the boss and level up?

>>165746259
Yeah hardyharhar
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>>165746925
yes you level up when you die
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>>165746925
Short version: you need 1 insight before you can level up, and laying eyes on a boss gives you 1 insight.
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>>165746992
alright then. I guess I'll reinstall it and start a new game, try to build up as much blood as I can and then spend it on some armor at the hub. is that hunter armor in the dungeon worth getting?
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>>165747136
(cont) It's a straight suicide run, but the rewards are worth it. Also, if you didn't see it, there's a drop to the left of that first guy who smashes through the boxes that'll skip the stair mob
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>>165747181
Armor is very simplified compared to Dark Souls. Hunter garb, bought or scavenged is arguably the best general-purpose armor in the game.
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Should I
>start farming FRC for gems on my limited Str char
>make a limited Skl char
>continue pumping Arc all the way to 99 on my Arc char
?
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>>165746391
Ebrietas is still in the Grand Cathedral.
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>>165747136
There's like two or three madman's knowledge items you can grab before you even see the first boss.
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>>165745693
I just realized the poncho Hobuki is wearing is actually the Doll's clothes.
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Does anyone want to run through the Defiled chalice with me? Ringing at the layer one lamp
Lv: 100
Pass: bbg
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>>165747316
so I'll try to go for that then. I think I have a decent run at it now. I know where all the enemies are and can handle the mob and patrol guys. just to clarify, I kill those guys at the fire and past the beast, make my way across the bridge going down to the dungeon, grab that armor, haul ass back to the lantern through the house, then to go to the hub, any enemies I kill won't respawn will they? so when I restart I'll have that armor and whatever else I can afford with the blood I gained, should make it somewhat easier.
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>>165747181
Yeah just go get the free armor. The Blood you spend to buy it will let you level up 4 times or so that early on. And while it might be a bit spoilery... I recommend looking at the BB weapon list, picking you're favorite one, and start leveling up for it. Thats the best way to play BB.
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Holy Moonlight Sword is shit.
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>>165749645
You're doing it wrong.
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>>165747181
The armor in the sewers is better for the most part than the one you can buy. In fact it's one of the best sets when it comes to physical defenses.
>>165749629
Enemies respawn when you die or return to the Hunter's Dream.
Not sure if they do if use the bold hunter's mark (returns you back to the last lamp used, but not to the Dream).
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>>165749642
Not that guy, but I fucking love the threaded cane, started with the saw cleaver and I didn't like it very much.

Cane 4 lyfe.
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>>165749913
they respawn
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>>165746791
>Yharnam Sunrise ending
>the nightmare is over and the Church is destroyed
>wake up powerless in a city crawling with nameless horrors
>have to sneak your way out
>have to live with the knowledge of the horrible truth of the universe the rest of your life

Much like Lovecraft's stories themselves, it's not what Cthulhu IS that's scary, it's what Cthulhu MEANS that's supposed to be scary.
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>>165749642
>>165749913

hope it works as well as I'm imagining it. I'm using the axe now and I like it, has decent range in its other form.

>enemies respawn after going to hunters dream

fucking hell that sucks though.. my real only gripe about the game so far because it's really repetitive.
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>>165749645
I found the faggot with less than 1000AR on his HMS
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>>165750319
Gehrman specifically states that you'll forget the dream, which is why that video up there was saying sunrise is the most depressing ending.
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>>165750397
I thought it meant you'd forget Gehrman, the Doll, and the dream, but you'd remember fighting everything
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>>165750397
Well that's even better, wake up in a city crawling with monsters unable to comprehend what the fuck' going on.
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>>165750324
The axe is the easy mode weapon, you'll have to try hard to not breeze through the game now.
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>>165750324
>enemies respawn after going to hunters dream
>repetitive

My friend, have you never played a Souls games before? More than half the time you can literally just run past stuff if you don't want to fight it. And why wouldn't you? The game is focused half around combat, half around exploration. It can be intimidating for a new player, but Bloodborne straight up has the best combat of any modern From action RPG.
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>>165750739
saw cleaver is also "easy mode" 2bh
this game isn't even that hard
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>>165750921
Nah, nor really. Cleaver has the nice bonus of being a serrated weapon, which helps in the beginning, but the axe is just too good. Good base damage and scaling, stupidly high rally, long reach in tricked mode, spin2win, you name it.
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>>165751046
The cleaver's speed makes it fantastic. Plus it's tricked mode has pure vertical and horizontal swings with range and pancaking ability. It's honestly a fucking great weapon.
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>>165750116
Then you build up Skill and ignore strength my man. Look into the Blades of Mercy, and Burial Blade. Also if you have DLC you could get into the Saif and Rakuyo. And I wouldn't blame you if you thought about getting some Bloodtinge and rocking the Reiter or Bowblade.
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>>165751046
you are crazy if you don't think the cleaver is extremely good and easy to use

my first run was with the axe. next run i picked cleaver and i was amazed at how fast i could deal damage and how easy the game was.
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>>165750913
no, I haven't. I'm used to checkpoints and shit. I did notice the watchmen would follow me for a bit but if I ran far enough they turned back around. I guess I'll make use of that too. the combat is good but I would much rather have a standard blocking move than using my gun.
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>>165750324
Can be a bit repetitive, but its about finding shortcuts and making the trips after death faster. Really focus on exploration.
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Damn, not even Hibiki is showing up... I guess it's time to go solo
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>>165751382
if I manage to make it to the armor and through the house back to the first lamp, I should be able to get right back to the bridge anyway, after I clear the house out and find those papers. okay. I'm gonna need a guide for this shit if you never obtain a log or map to keep track of what's going on.
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>>165751315
The lamps/bonfires ARE the checkpoints. And enemies respawning means you get to collect more souls from them and get even stronger. Provided you don't die like a bitch a second time on your way to pick up your bloodstain. Which should be much easier now, since in your previous life you've obtained the most valuable weapon of all - knowledge.
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>>165751046
The cleaver is the only starter worth picking for putting together a build.

The first r1 with the axe has terrible startup time in both modes, forcing you to use roll attacks and running attacks it you want to get a quick attack out. The untricked cane has bad range and not great speed, the tricked cane bounces off walls all the time.

They're usable, but if you just want to rush the early game, cleaver r1 spam is the only way to go.
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>>165751927
>in your previous life you've obtained the most valuable weapon of all - knowledge
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Anyone wanna help me beat those three assholes in the Yahargul church?

PASS: bbg

ringing in the outside area after the chapel lamp.
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>>165751792
Yeah first lamp is really close to the bride. Just take the left, go into the house, up stairs, and to the right. You'll see a ogre and some crows, past them is the first boss.

Also, one super early farming spot is to the right of the house. When you exit upstairs go up stairs, kill the guy at the top. Then look to your right... you'll see the two werewolves. So early on they can fuck you up pretty good, but if you aggro them then run back down the stairs you'll find they can't fit through the door to come into the house. Whichever weapon you have, trick it, then start smashing them from the safety of the house for a few hundred easy echoes and vials.

Those wolves, in their multiple forms throughout the game, are one of the few enemies that have guaranteed drops.
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>>165752093
On my way
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>>165751958
You are objectively wrong. Axe is a powerful weapon that can stand on its own with no real building towards its preferred stats. Thats why its the recommended weapon for going into an Arcane build.

And if you're locked on, the tricked cane can sail right through most walls. One of the most common early cheese strats is to get Gascan on the other side of a set of unbreakable gravestones and then just whip his ass. You can do that through the entire fight if you're careful. And when untricked, it range isn't that great normally, but its power attack is a pretty good lunge with decent range, and its normal attacks have great speed.
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>>165752062
Need an edit with him in a Hoonters hat and the bottom saying

>...AND THE OTHER HALF IS BLOOD.
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>>165752093
Are you still ringing?
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>>165752537
Yup
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>>165752537
I am on NG++ if that matters
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Has anyone ever hit the Stake Driver's charged explosion in PVP?
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>>165752745
Oh. Let me change characters
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>>165752421
>Thats why its the recommended weapon for going into an Arcane build.
I don't know who recommends that, but any weapon is usable with base stats up to the point you can get elemental gems.

And like I said, the axe and cane are usable, but they require more nuance than the cleaver. I don't see why you would need to cheese gascoigne.
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>>165752745
Do you have the setting on worldwide? If so, try ringing again
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>>165753205
Reringing...
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>>165753205
Are you using the password?
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>>165745693
>it's a hibiki episode

Literally the best reruns
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Does anyone want to put down the hotdoggo with me in the defiled chalice?
Pass:bbg
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>>165753205
Thank you. That was a good run.
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Reposting from /dsg/ since I didn't know there was a seperate general for BB.

Why is the framerate in the first area so janky? I borrowed a friend's ps4 so I could play bloodborne, but the constant framerate dips I was getting were making me nauseous. I had to put down the controller and close my eyes by the time I got to Cleric Beast (I think thats the name. Dont really remember)

Someone suggested that maybe the ps4 was overheating, but he hadn't played the game to know if it was a regular issue or just exclusive to me.

I really hope its just an issue with his ps4 because the gameplay seemed fun and I want to play through it if I ever buy one for myself.
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>>165754356
No problem. I'm glad to know that I was useful.
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>>165754353
Sure, layer 2, right?
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>>165754442
That's an issue with you famalam, I've only ever had framerate drops during very busy screens like standing in the middle of blood explosions from boss kills. Framerates throughout have always remained steady for me.
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>>165754705
Yeah
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>>165754780
Alright at least there is hope. I'm assuming it runs at 30 most of the time for everyone else? I can live with that. It was dropping to like 10 fps every time I turned the camera though.
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>>165754705
Are you on the way? I think Hibiki is getting bored
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>>165755096
Yeah, that doesn't sound right. It's usually a perfectly stable 30fps. Make sure that shit's ventilated well, maybe clean out the fan at the back and see if it helps.
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Anyone wanna help with Pthumerian Descendant down in a depth 5 root dungeon?

Could be some goodies at the end, pass is choir, ringing
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>>165754442
>he hadn't played the game

Then are you playing unpatched BB? Because that might explain it. Otherwise there's probably just something wrong with that particular PS4, I do get framerate drops in BB but only when there's lots of stuff going on.
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>>165755387
On my way via SRRC
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Does anyone have the spreadsheet with weapon rally values?

Can't find it in OP sorry lads
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>>165755387
Oops, I forgot that I can't join a chalice I have yet to unlock. Sorry about that m8. But if you help me through defiled chalice and ihyll, I suppose I can be of some help.
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How did Gehrman grow a leg?
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>>165755967
Aight lets do it, set te pass and i'll join via SRRC
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>>165756194
Ok, the password is bbg
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>>165756406
Ringen
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>>165756406
>getting killed by amy's jump attack

I have become shame
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>>165757015
>getting killed while cheesing him
I too have become shame
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>>165754442
I smell pasta
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>>165757263
Sorry dude, got killed again. I gotta go to work, sorry I couldn't help you kill Amy.
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>>165757015
Ringing once more. The fucker won't jump.
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>>165757649
No problem, I'll get it eventually
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>>165754442
The first area is extremely detailed and has too much smoke and particle effects from the burning bodies for the PS4 to handle on BB's engine. Old Yharnam is worse right near where you enter it. For some fucking reason the game goes in slow motion when rendering effects like those, especially up close. It happens when a giant enemy dies all over your screen, as their body vaporizes. In the chalice dungeons, occasionally (rarely) there will be like 5 poison gas pots next to eachother in some basement trap, and being anywhere in their vicinity causes the frame rate to drop to like 10fps (even if you cannot see the gas) until you destroy the pots.

I don't know why but the PS4 always shits itself over these stupid particle effects. Even Uncharted 4 has that problem to some extent, and that game was optimized like nobody's business.
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I'm going to invade people with my chinchin blade with the sole objective of losing most of them.
Also fuck Execucks
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Could someone help me kill Logarius?
I want to join the Vilebloods
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>>165758028
Pass?
Ring Location?
And BL?
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>>165758013
>calls them cucks
>literally giving their queen executioner sperm
L M A O
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Why didn't Logarius just kill Queen Annalise? It seemed like instead he was guarding her
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>>165758639
Because he knew she was immortal.
He was guarding her to stop other people from finding her and doing Vileblood work.
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>>165758639
You dumbass faggot she's immortal
So he's basically jailing her
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>>165757709
Sometimes you have to move back in front of Amy for a second and let it initiate a normal attack on you. Then you can get behind it again and it will jump every time again
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>>165758474
Didn't have a pass and never mind summoned two helpers before anyone responded
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>>165758635
>Calls his master "martyr"
>He didn't do shit and gets killed by some hunter
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Why the HECK do people fight Orphan at the shoreline? So frustrating.
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>>165758753
>>165758763
>immortal
but Alfred kills her. The only reason she can get resurrected is because of Ebriatas' altar, and for all we know that altar could resurrect anyone, given their flesh
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>>165758786
I'll keep that in mind next time, might make the fight end quicker. I ended up waiting 30-50 seconds trying to bait its jump attack, but I eventually killed it.
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>>165758903
>"What remains of Annalise, blood queen of Cainhurst. This pinkish lump of flesh remains warm, as if cursed. All hail the undying queen of blood!"
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>>165758903
>but Alfred kills her
No, her flesh is still alive.
"What remains of Annalise, blood queen of Cainhurst.

This pinkish lump of flesh remains warm, as if cursed."
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>Ring of Betrothal

crikey mates i had no idea this existed
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>>165759018
>>165759058
Well she doesn't automatically re-assimilate back into a person from a pile of blood and gore, so that's dead enough to me. You would think Logarius would have "killed" her just as a precaution
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>>165758903
IT
WRITHES
EERILY
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>>165759128
>tfw blood queen rejects your proposal
Why live?
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Will I break Eileen's questline if I go to Hypogean Gaol before I do the Henryk fight?
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>>165759018
>>165759058
>>165759475
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>>165755171
I'm sorry for bailing out, had to leave. I'm not sure if I can rejoin anytime soon. I hope you get him
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>>165759359
For all we know he probably smashed her too but she just fused back tigether after a while anyways.

Also
>Acts of goodness are not always wise, and acts of evil are not always foolish, but rgardless we should always strive to be good
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>>165759658
maybe if you kill Paarl

>>165757015
It does ridiculous damage. One-shots me every time on FRCs, with ~1000HP. It only happens rarely though
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>>165759937
I just want to collect some twin shards early.
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>>165760030
just make a savescum and go fight Henryk.
if you fuck it up and Eileen dies, load the save
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>>165760151
Well, I guess I could do just that.
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>>165759359
it does say i think that logarius tried to kill her but realised she was immortal. i assume then, to find that out, he wouldve had to have tried atleast once and he wouldnt have gone to the alter of despair or whatever just to fix her afterwards. I think then that over time she can reform but using the alter of despair thing speeds up the process
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>church waifu eyeing you while you talk to the whore
spoopy but also neat as fuck that From would put that in
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>>165758840
>He didn't do shit

"And so Logarius donned the crown of his own volition, determined to prevent a single soul from stumbling upon the vile secret."
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>>165760707
Keep taking the whores blood, don't take church waifu blood
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I'm working on a cosplay toon inspired by rap artist Big Sean's hit single "Bounce Back" and could use your build advice.

>In keeping with the theme of "Bounce Back" I need to maximize my capacity to rally.

>Furthermore Big Sean confesses he "WOKE UP IN BEAST MODE"! and we all know that carries lots of implications when referencing Bloodborne. I need the right runes and the DLC claws!

>Sliders for a skinny black guy?

Thank you all in advance, Good Hunters.
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What is he trying to do?
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>>165761706
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>>165761742
Make contact.
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Saw spear or saw cleaver until i can rush the saif?
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I'm working on a cosplay toon inspired by rap artist Eminem's hit single "Mom's Spaghetti" and could use your build advice.

>In keeping with the theme of "Mom's Spaghetti" I need to maximize my capacity to use noodle tools and noodle arms

>Furthermore Big Sean confesses his "Knees weak, palms are sweatty, mom's spaghetti"! and we all know that carries lots of implications when referencing Bloodborne.

I need the right runes and the DLC kos parasite!

>Sliders for a skinny white guy?

Thank you all in advance, Good Hunters.
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>>165762448
>DEX weapon or STR weapon until I can rush a DEX weapon?

For real?
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Anyone willing to help ob Lud?
Be ringing at the fog. Pass is bbg
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I've never played Dark Souls, but what's described as "poise" in that game sounds just like what's called "hyper armor" in Bloodborne. Is that accurate?
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>>165763207
No. Hyper armor only works during certain attack animations. Poise works at all times and can be broken if the incoming attack has enough poise break.
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>0 blood vials
>183 health left
>beat Ludwig, finally

holy adrenaline rush
this is why i play souls games
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That was awesome!
Thank you anon-san.
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>>165761742
>wears white church set
>can't recognize a proper Make Contact when he sees one
Poser
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>>165763369
>Poise works at all times
you mean like you don't flinch when you get hit even if you're just standing there?

>poise can be broken if the incoming attack has enough poise break
That sounds the same. Hyper armor can be broken too if the incoming attack has enough hyper-armor break. Like the Fist of Gratia or the LHB's L2. And when you do the transition attack into tricked Holy Moonlight Sword, you get your own hyper armor; you can absorb at least one non-heavy attack and you will still complete your swing
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>Snakes
>Snakes
>Big Snakes
>Oh a regular guy
>Nope, Snakes
>Big Snakes
>Snakes
>Snakes
>Finally the boss, I bet its a Snake
>Oh wow it's not, thank go-
FUCKING SNAKES
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>depth 1 Pthumeru
>BL30
>see shadows of people with the Burial Blade
Normies just ignore chalice dungeons until NG+, don't they?
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>>165763672
That feeling when you beat a boss with zero vials is bliss
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>>165763812
>you mean like you don't flinch when you get hit even if you're just standing there?
Exactly.
>Hyper armor can be broken too
I honestly never really notice that happen in either BB or DS3. Unless, maybe it's a super heavy pancaking attack, like charged Kirk's.
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>>165763910
It's embarrassing for me, it feels like cheating
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>>165763812
>you mean like you don't flinch when you get hit even if you're just standing there?

Correct. It's an additional stat with its own bar that can be depleted, like HP and stamina, only invisible.
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>>165764024
I feel the same, but usually after that first time I never struggle that much anymore.
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>>165758786
I eventually got him after two more tries, so no worries
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Why is the choir bell in the nightmare of mensis?
Wouldn't it make more sense if he was in upper cathedral?
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>>165764016
>I honestly never really notice that happen in either BB or DS3
Not even when using the saws? I sometimes do L1 attacks when cleaver R1-comboing an enemy who is about to strike me with their heavy attack (rather than dodge), because I know the heavyness of my transition-attack will be enough to break their hyper armor and stop them from hitting me.

I notice it all the time with the bloodletter too. The first R1 attack almost never breaks hyper armor, but the second one and every one after that does - even if the first one missed. Same thing with the tricked axe. The R1 thrust attack only breaks the hyper armor of small and weak enemies, but the R1 overhead swing after it will stop the attacks of most enemies. R2's almost always break it. Jump attacks too.

Really, it depends on the enemy and how heavy their attack is. With the fist of Gratia, you can break the hyper armor of huge bosses like Laurence in like two or three punches, and it makes him stunned for a while. Hyper armor just seems just like a different implementation of poise that is more a part of your weapon's moveset instead of your character's stats. It can even be boosted with a lead elixir.
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if you hit Rom with a Shaman Bone Blade will all his minions attack him?
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>>165766514
No, the Shaman Bone Blade doesn't work on Rom. It does work on the Shadow of Yharnam, though
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>>165764570
because thats where the best memes are
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Is there any hidden technique with Ebrieta's jump? I dodge it like 1 out of 100 times and it seems like she always does it randomly, not matter if I'm right infront of her or at the other side of the room. It also feels almost undodgeable :/
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>>165766848
yeah, you dodge towards her when she is swooping, then unlock the camera and keep rolling in that same direction one more time and you should be safe. Might not even need the roll
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>>165764570
Mensis Scholar Damian uses the Choir Bell, and given the corpse of the Choir member we find in Yahar'gul which is run by Mensis, they could have found it from one of the bodies. It's also possible that they came in possession of it if they ever worked together on something.
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>>165766616
When it says shadow of yharnam
Does it mean the city or the queen
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>>165766929
Almost certainly the Queen.
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>>165766975
Gay, they shouldnt be elastic and snakey then.
Give them blood attacks
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>>165766929
The Queen, they're her bodyguards
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>>165767263
They have fire attacks, fire is closely related to the Pthumerians. Besides, the ones in the Woods are snakey because of the sheer amount of sneks in there.
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>>165767263
Everything in the forest has been snakified because of the Madaras twins, including the Shadows. IIRC the shadows in the nightmare do not have the snek attacks.
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is the loch shield worse at blocking physical damage than the wooden shield?
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>>165768032
Yes
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What is the trigger that causes arianna to have her baby? Is it after you beat a specific boss? Which one?
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>>165768507
I only found it after I killed Mergo's Wet Nurse.
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>>165768507
>>165768769
Hapoens after you kill Memecolash
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Anyone wanna do ludwig with me pass is glue ringing at nightmare church
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>>165769070
Sure I'm there
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>>165752771
yeah but it was because i would gesture and he would opy, then hed do a gesture and id copy, and i started charging it as he sat down
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>>165768507
micolash
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>>165769901
sorry just solod him but you can come for research hall and failures if youd like
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What are the ways of cheesing Djura? I usually just run r1 him with the tricked axe, i also heard you can shoot him of the tower as soon you finish climbing it.
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>>165770282
I actually haven't beaten him on this character yet, but I might catch up
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>>165763887
you can get an uncanny bb pretty early
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Iosefka's got bare feet when she's on the table, what a slut
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>>165770353
if you have the pistol or evelyn and start spamming as soon as you climb up then he should get knocked off after 6 shots
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>>165770593
Her VA is amazing
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>>165770593
Given the way she's lying on the table, you choose her bare feet to dictate that she's a slut?
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Does anyone want to coop through the dlc starting from research hall?
Pass: bbg
Lv: 100
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>>165770724
You mean the fake one? Yeah, she's pretty good.
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I fell off the tower in research hall after pushing the lever, how do I get all the way back up to get the brain fluids I keep getting lost
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Blood wiki recommends BL 80 for the Old Hunters but thats just for a NG+ run right?
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would 32.6 blunt gems be ideal for the boom hammer? 50 str 25 arc
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>>165771319
I could help you get there if you need help
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>>165771389
60-70 is good enough for ng DLC
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>>165771498
sure, ill ring at the lamp pass is lost
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>>165771578
Ringing
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>>165771537
I made a new character so im still in regular game. Should be fine no matter what BL i go into it right?
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>>165771641
thank you, wasnt expecting you to jump off at the end there lol
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>>165771578
I seem to have slipped... Would you like some assistance with the boss?
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>>165771714
sure but it's not very challenging if you're rocking a BL90 build or something like that
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>>165772030
oh I thought you did it on purpose haha, sure i'm still ringing i'm outside their door now
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BLOODBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORNE
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>>165772016
Yeah, I didn't really mean to. I tried to throw a knife at the bird and fell
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>>165764570
Because Mensis people kill Choir people.
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>>165772126
Oh, then give me a second, I need to push the lever.
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>>165771714
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>165772420
thank you and thank you aian, want to summon me for your failures too?
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what's the deal with Yahar'Gul? Why is it considered a different, "unseen city" and not just another borough of Yharnam? Is it cordoned off and abandoned, like Old Yharnam?

How long ago did the Mensis ritual take place in Yahar'Gul? Because it looks like it happened many years ago. Everyone who looks to have been involved is as decomposed as a mummy. But how could it have been years ago if they just did it to summon the red moon on the night of the game's events? (I reason this because the bagmen were just killed and Hypolean Gaol was overrun, and because of the notes about stopping the ritual near your cell in the jail).

And all those people lining the walls who look like they're trying to escape - are they the people of Yahar'Gul? Or are they regular Yharnamites who were captured by the kidnappers / bag men? Because it looks like the ritual was performed while Yahar'Gul was having a normal day, with its citizens walking around in the streets doing their business right up until it destroyed them
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>>165773062
Yeah, help would be appreciated. Ringing outside gate.
Same pass
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>>165773062
sure. ng+3 though. pass is found.
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>>165773148
alright ringing now

>>165773179
ill ring for you after
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>>165773062
nvm help the other lost guy first. Also, bully maria next?
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>>165773093
ah wait, I see now looking at my screenshot that some of the mummies are shackled. I guess they were all kidnapped then?

Surely Yahar'Gul was normal at one point. But the game doesn't depict it the same way as Old Yharnam. It seems more like a place of pure evil, not a victim to it
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>>165773093
They managed to keep the whole thing hidden and out of sight mostly due to the power of the Great Ones keeping it a secret (why we can see everything after Rom). It's more or less part of Yharnam as it is affected by the Blood Moon. The ritual itself was an ongoing process which took a very long time (needed to collect all those corpses and have another Blood Moon), they just kept the scholars waiting in that building off Advent Plaza. The people on the walls are both Yahar'gul citizens and captured Yharnamites who were likely killed during the ritual, as they didn't need them to finish their little science project.
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>>165737319
>>165742758

Preset Lower Himtertomb

Layer 1 pre-boss bonus room. Go through the coridoor, up the ladder, drop off the staircase with a spider on it, then run through another hallway and turn right in the room with a ladder and a ghost. Once in the treasure room kill the zombie dude hiding to the right of the entrance and then head as far right as you can WALKING ONLY push the analogue stick as little as you can. Creep along the right side of the room, get behind Clarence and backstab + visceral him. With a Saw Cleaver I was able to reliably chain-backstab him but if you arnt level 10 you should be able to kill him in one backstab.

He drops 16.5% +14.9 flat cursed Physical gems. Other effects include Slow Poison, Rapid Poison, Beast and Kin Hunter. I don't think there is any other effects in Hintertomb.
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>>165773148
>>165773179
>>165773179
alright, ng+3 failures now or maria?
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>>165735067
10/10 I'm loving it
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>>165773742
failures then maria.
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>>165773796
Agreed
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>>165773796
alright ringing with found now aian
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>>165773520
the only thing that keeps you from seeing the inside of Yahar'Gul before Rom is the fact that the main gates are closed. The jail area only got fucked up because the main gates opened up and all the corpse freaks inside broke loose
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>>165774009
The gates in the entrance cathedral, and that the wall where all those corpses and dogs are is blocked off. Moreover, before killing Rom, we can't see the pits with the Amygdalas (unless you're at 40+ Insight) or the pits with the burning corpses.
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>>165773520
maybe the chanting you hear while in Hypolean Gaol is the Mensis boys chorus, singing for the ritual from behind the gates
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>>165773742
Well, I got stunlocked. I hope that you killed them.
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>>165774320
Yeo. Thanks very much. Time for maria. Lost?
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>>165774367
sure
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>>165774235
They're preparing for the sing-off against the Choir's girl's choir, see whose music better resonates with Great Ones
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>>165763207
Hyper armour is Temperory poise that only lasts the duration of certain attack animations. Poise (they called it "super armour" in the offical guide though) is always active.

Players have 0 poise by default and the only way to get any is by chugging Lead Elixor. Weapons all have different amounts of hyper armour on different attacks.

Enemies can have poise, usually the bigger ones. Meaning they can do whatever the fuck they want even while you are wailing on them. Every attack in the game has a poise-damage value, EG blades of mercy R1 spam do almost none, while a Kirkhammer R2 will break almost anything a poise.

Poise resets after 4 seconds of not taking poise damage, or instantly after poise-health reaches 0 (they stagger, then have full poise again)
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>>165774191
are the burning corpses depicted as bonfires the first time you go to Hypolean Gaol? If so, you may be right
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>>165770525
Before Shadows if you are a madman.

But they wouldn't be doing Pthumeru Chalice's with it, since you need to clear Pthumeru 1-3 and Loran 4-5 to get an uncanny burial blade.
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>>165774367
are you ringing aian?
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>>165773093
You know how the Upper Cathedral Ward is locked off from everyone else and it's the Choir's HQ? Yahar'gul is the same but for Mensis. People don't live in these areas, they are strictly Church-controlled.

The Mensis ritual is taking place as you go around doing your shit, the big melting down of the people was a single huge event that happened as you were going through Burgertown and killing Rom. The husks fused to the walls were all the people the Kidnappers took to the city.

There was a Mensis ritual before this one, too, I dunno what they did then but it didn't require all those people. I think it was Old Yharnam that got wiped out last time. The note near the Charred set says 'the red moon hangs low'. Everyone in there are beasts because the moon came down once before. I think maybe that's when Mensis got mummified and made contact with Mergo.
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I can't into waifus in this game but it's better than DS3's.
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>>165774638
I haven't been there in awhile, but yes, the little bonfires that are there (if there are any there, refresh my memory) turn into the burning corpses
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>>165774784
... Weren't you summoning?
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>>165774980
yeah thats what I mean, weve been here a while with no sign of you
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>>165775094
pass still lost?
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>>165775182
yeah
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>>165775216
I've been ringing so, ...?
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>>165773658
Thanks m8!
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>>165775293
wew that summon took forever, sorry if I came across as rude was just trying to figure out what was going on, time for ghermans maria?
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>>165775182
>>165775216
Who's next?
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>>165775634
Nah, you weren't rude. I was probably just standing in the wrong spot.
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>>165775664
lets do ghermans adn then do aias last since its ng+3, gives us a chance to get echoes and level
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>>165775846
Ok, we are waiting for your arrival now.
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>>165775893
game seems to take awhile to get the 3rd person for some reason
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>>165775754
Give me a second before you go, I'm going to pick up the ultimate bully tool before doing this one.
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>>165774601
So there *is* poise in Bloodborne? I always hear people saying the exact opposite.

>Poise resets after 4 seconds of not taking poise damage, or instantly after poise-health reaches 0 (they stagger, then have full poise again)
This makes sense, especially when you think of the way Orphan staggers (seems like it happens after you do x amount of damage to him and then resets)

And hyper armor and poise are two different things? They don't stack do they? Or is poise used when not attacking and hyper armor used when you are?

Can any attack have its hyper armor broken?
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>>165775971
>>165775893
>>165775846
>>165775664
Same pass, lets do this ng+3.
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Why are there 4 umbilical cords if the emphasis is on 3 of them being essential? In case you miss one?
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>>165776268
On my way with the bullying tool
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>>165776346
Yes
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>>165776346
I'm pretty sure its stupidly convoluted to get all four
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>>165776532
it really isn't
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>>165776532
Not really, I got 3 now and I still haven't killed the wet nurse.
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Damn. I mistimed the dodge.
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>>165776556
>>165776597
My bad I was remembering two o
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>>165770752
All fours is a common way to birth in all mammals besides aquatic ones. It wasn't until recently that birthing on the back was the normal way to do it, and incidentally it is more dangerous than all fours.

You can't undo all that evolution for the sake of modesty. We are animals, just smarter than the other animals.
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>>165776812
Let's try to shove Maria into a corner before doing anything else
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Do all Umbilical Cords have unique descriptions?
I got one mentioning Oedon, I figure that's Arianna's. One mentioning the pale moon and the hunter's dream and finally one mentioning Willem.
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>>165776925
I get that, but have you seen her face when she's in that position?
>>165777064
Yes, slightly different descriptions. The last one mentions Mensis.
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>>165774807
Makes sense, thanks

>>165776532
Well two of them are guaranteed, so all you have to do is not kill Iosefka if you sneak in the back of her clinic before the red moon, and send Arianna to Oeden chapel. She can die, but it only happens in specific circumstances. Just don't take her blood before you fight Rom if you also have Adella in the chapel. And even if you take the beggar to the chapel, she's the last one to die so you can plainly tell she's next. She gives you the umbilical cord when you beat micolash
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>>165777161
What if I eat 4 cords instead of 3?
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>>165776812
>>165777024
alright ill ring at the hut lamp
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>>165777306
Extra squiddy
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>>165777340
wut, MP gets a buddy during the fight??
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>>165777324
I'll haul my ass over there while getting high on blue elixir
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>>165777306
You get more tentacles.
You just get the extra Insight, sadly, nothing special happens
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>>165776346
I just rationalized it as the cords are so withered it's only one third it's original size
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>>165777425
Cracking a joke anon.
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>>165776924
Two of them wrong*
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>>165777324
Ringing
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Church pick > Burial blade
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>>165778237
tfw smacking amygdala in the head with the cuck pick without it even having the head down
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are there any good triangle ATK UP gems that I do not have to get from Amygdala?
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>>165770752
Exposed soles warrants automatic slut status.
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>>165776268
Ringing again... Gravity is just not on my side
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>>165778642
Rom or gargoyle OoS. Amy ain't that hard if you jump cheese with a Stake.
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Should I fap or go to bed
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>>165780490
Do both
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>>165780490
Fap.
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Thank you Gherman and Aian, if you guys wanna do anything else let me know, I had fun.
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>>165780632
Likewise. Laurence?
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>>165780632
Same here, that was really fun. I actually need to beat ebrietas in the chalice but kept getting bs'd by her jump attack thing. Could you help me out?
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>>165780746
sure, ring outside his fog?
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>>165780851
Oh, I forgot about him, I'm on the way
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>>165780746
>>165780980
>>165780980
alright im ringing outside since I forgot his skull
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>>165780980
>>165780851
>>165780980
I'm (Aian) summoning. And yes, I'll help with ebrietas
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>>165780490
The night brims with defiled cum, and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think, now you're all set to fap and fap to your heart's content!
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>>165780850
sadly I (anais) wont be able to help with ebrietas I haven't gotten there in chalices yet, unless SRRC will work even though I haven't got there
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>>165781395
I hate Laurence.
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>>165781395
Do you have the chalice?
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>>165781623
no and I havent done any chalices yet on this character so no materials, id have to rush through to central pth and get SRRC if that works
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>>165781601
>>165781395
Are you guys ringing?
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>>165781857
I can help you rush ailing loran, and from there, you can do the search chalice with ailing loran and farm 2 ritual blood (5) from there.
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>351 / 40
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>>165782084
Explain further.
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>>165782476
>353 posts
>only 41 images
>and while I'm thinking about it, only 74 posters
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Alright, fuck Laurence.
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>>165782851
Sounds like he just fucked you m8
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>>165781601
Give me a sec, I'm changing characters.
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>>165782746
Feel free to spam useless reaction images then, faggot.
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>>165782851
Valtr, Charred Hunter Garb with Yamamura's hat, Bolt Paper. From there, just don't let him get any hits in
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>>165782851
I'I bringing my pizza cutter guy, don't give up yet
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>>165782746
It's not even the dedest general, either.

/tfg/ just had a game drop like 2 months ago and it's fucking slow as shit
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>tfw all i want is Lost Logarius Wheel
>tfw keep re-making Pthemeru Ihyll Root Chalice with different offerings and can't seem to find it
>tfw play offline so can't use glyphs

I just want to purge goddammit
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>>165782851
>one swipe
>get hit three times
yay.
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We should have a tomb prospectors general /tpg/ or something

post glitchy roots
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>>165783638
Fuck this let go bully ebrietas.
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>>165783616
>playing offline

Why? It's easy to get 48 hour plus trial. I have this glyph that has lost wheel in pre latern bonus area which makes it easy as well.
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>>165783616
Damn anon that sucks, I was just spelunking an FRC Ihyll earlier today that had a Lost Wheel in the pre-lantern side area on the first floor

Good luck buddy
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>>165783871
Ok, on my way
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>>165783871
>>165784029
good luck, sorry I wont be able to join
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Are nourshing triangles really just a rare drop from the Watchers?
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>>165783871
Chalice ebrietas, like that other dude wanted help with. Her I can wreck.
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>>165783871
Ringing
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>>165784253
Rare from Watchers, guaranteed from Isz Amy unless it comes out as OoS. You could farm Gargoyles or Rom in hopes of getting an OoS from them, gargoyles are much easier.
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>>165784356
Im srrc'ing.
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>defiled chalice
They should have picked one with slightly easier bosses. Every fucking one is a struggle.
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>>165778237
But Burial Blade looks better, rule of cool.
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>>165784490
>keeper
>a struggle

>'nose boop' the boss
>a struggle

>'stand in front of me and just walk in for openings' or 'jump cheese' the boss
>a struggle

nah
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>>165784746
It's not nice to post bait
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>>165784490
Parry/stunlock Keeper, break Doggo's face/legs, jump cheese or shoot/hit Amy's head.
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>mfw having 99 insight changes nothing
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Goddamn it I forgot about frenzy.
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>>165784872
tell that to the other guy

defiled is literally only hard when it's blind

after you figure it out it's a cakewalk.
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TFW I need to play my bl4 but i'm feeling too lazy to go learn one reborns pattern tonight.
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>>165783852
I'd be on board with that. Does that arch contain a magic portal to 30% Guidance?
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>>165784990
It grabbed my weapon. Ringing again.
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>>165776262
BB has a fully functioning poise system like Dark Souls 1.

It's just that outside of Lead Elixor players never have more than 0 stationary poise, so any hit will flinch you.

Hyper Armour is temporary poise that happens during certain animations. All charge R2 attacks have (Unbreakabke??) hyperarmour after the flash, and heavy weapons usually have hyper armour, especially on big attacks. It can be broken, just like poise (although the reset timer never comes into play because no attack is 4 seconds long). For example the Kos Parasite L2 cannot be canceled just by hitting them with any weapon, but if you whack them with something that does a lot of impact or multiple hits from smaller impacts they will stagger out of it.

Huge bosses play by different rules though, I don't think Cleric Beast, Amelia, Paarl, Hotdog etc... have traditional poise. The only way to stagger them is to cripple a body part. This will cancel them out of any attack and leave that area vunrable until they repair it. This is based on damage, not impact. So blades of Mercy will break Paarls legs as quick as a Kirkhammer if the DPS is the same.

But stuff like Rom, Wet Nurse, Orphan, Celestial Emmisionary all have regula poise (it's really easy to visually see poise in action on this guy in chalice dungeons, he has a silly looking stumble when he staggers, for example after 3 Church Pick r1's).
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>>165785072
Just kill the maidens, pop a BB Pellet, Bolt Paper and r1, l1, l1, etc with your Saw. Even with a beasthood high meter you won't get one shotted by the legs, just gotta watch out for everything else. Go for the head when it drops for more damage.
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>>165784990
Thanks for that m8
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>>165785729
No prob.
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>>165785084
Guidance 3 is DLC content. It's not gonna be in the chalice dungeons
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>>165774807
>the big melting down of the people was a single huge event that happened as you were going through Burgertown and killing Rom. The husks fused to the walls were all the people the Kidnappers took to the city.

That doesn't add up. You can go to Yahar'gul before killing Rom and it looks exactly the same.
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>>165786009
>You can go to Yahar'gul before killing Rom and it looks exactly the same.
Not exactly.
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>>165784965
yeah they should have added more stuff for high insight
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>>165785817
Guidance 3 doesn't exist, due to a glitch that is never going to be patched.
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>>165784965
>he doesnt know about the baby cry
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>>165785817
It's supposedly somewhere in a Depth 5 dungeon. We've combed every inch of the DLC, and no sign of it. The Uncanny and Lost forms of DLC weapons are only in the dungeons from the Bath Messengers.
>>165786009
The ritual took place after the Blood Moon, and the corpses are only visible then
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>>165786009

Not him, but the kidnapped people were for, among other things, the creation of The One, Reborn, who was summoned before it was ready by the bell maidens in order to protect the Mensis Nightmare from you.
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holy fucking shit how do I kill Alfred I want to get the whell but he's so hard isn't there a way to cheese him?
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>>165786009
the part you see before the red moon looks exactly the same, only the sky is different and the bonfires have turned into burning/glowing corpses

>>165786223
>We've combed every inch of the DLC
Look further. It's probably just something extremely obscure. Something that makes getting Moon 3 from the giant brain seem obvious in comparison.
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>>165786202
Glitch? Explain.
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>>165786219
That's only 60 insight. There should be more eldrich stuff to see.
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>>165786365
What made you think it was a good idea to try to kill Alfred? Next thing I know, you'll tell us you tried to kill Eileen.
>>165786436
Getting Moon 3 from the Brain of Mensis makes sense. Moon states that the Great Ones of the Nightmare are sympathetic in spirit, and will call upon when asked. "Make Contact" communicates with the Great Ones. We got Guidance 1 from a Carrion Crow in the Research Hall, how would you explain that?
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>>165786365
You're supposed to backstab him into a corner and strong attack with the hunter's axe. Then, when he gets up from the pancake, you shoot your blunderbuss and it should parry. That's all I vaguely remember. You should just watch Vaati's video of these three people killing the first five hunters, including Alfred, at the beginning of the game.
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>>165786239
Nice fanfiction.
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>>165786365
Should've let him kill himself. You fighting him in Cainhurst?
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>>165786570
Well he's already agro'd, is there any way to unagrro him or like can i absolve my sins like in ds1?
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which one of you cool dudes wants to help me with defiled hot dog? pass is piss
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>>165786731
Will help, on my way
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>>165786670
nope, in the church place near the password guy
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>>165786717
No choice here. I'm hoping you only just hit Cathedral Ward, so I'd restart. If you hit the night phase, just join the Vilebloods like the filth you are, and pick up a Wheel in the dungeons.
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>>165786669
I can see his reasoning.
The One Reborn, for all the hype about the Mensis ritual, is a pretty weak boss, so I can see why people would think we prematurely fought him. And he is made up out of lots of people.
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>>165786649
Or not be a beastly idiot and not kill him, or any hunters that are/can become friendly
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Whaaat I didn't know Eileen could go crazy in Grand Cathedral if you don't follow her quest, that's pretty neat.
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>>165786009
>That doesn't add up. You can go to Yahar'gul before killing Rom and it looks exactly the same.

Wrong, the area where all the mummified corpses are is locked off until the red moon comes. One theory is that that music you hear wen you go to Hypogean Gaol earlier is actually peoole humming and praying for the ritual behind the wall that's locked. Then after you kill Rom their ritual clicks and everyone gets either mummified or pulled into the a hole to create the One Reborn.
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>>165786996
You didn't find her in Cathedral Ward? Hope you didn't want that HoH Oath
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>>165786819
I'm not even sure if he'll drop the badge there my dude. Like any NPC he can be cheesed with Poison Knives, just throw some and run around. Ends quicker if he revs his Wheel.
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>>165786869
We don't really know why it was summoned or who it's made of.
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>>165787091
Nah I'm on NG+ so I mostly ignored her. But I was checking out Yharnam after killing Micolash and I find her in the Grand Cathedral instead of that katana guy.
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>>165787092
I think he drops the badge there, but no Radiance rune/Executioner Oath for that guy
>>165787151
Since it's "Reborn," possibly Mensis scholars coming back. It's quite clearly made of corpses, likely the ones taken by the Snatchers
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>>165786731
You ringing m8?
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>>165787151
It's clearly made of bodies, do you have 0 insight?
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>>165786365
Anon, I think he only drops the Wheel badge after his quest with Vileblood Queen, otherwise he just drops fire paper.
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>>165787243
>possibly Mensis scholars coming back
That doesn't make any sense
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>>165786443
Not him but people believe that, since the game gives you a hunter's mark if you try to pick up a rune you already have, the game for some readon thinks you already have a guidance rune +3 so it always gives you hunter's marks when you try to pick it up.
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>>165787308
>>165787092
really? well I'm already quite a ways in and don't want to reset so is there any way to still get it without going through a bunch of chalice dungeons?
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>>165786570
Well, if it does exist, I'm just saying it's not gonna be in the dungeons. There is not a single thing from the DLC that appears normally in the dungeons as a drop or as loot. We don't have DLC weapons or armor being used by hunter NPCs / summons down there, and we don't see any new DLC enemies either. All we got was the DLC weapon variants added as listings in the dungeon bath messengers shop, which was probably the easiest possible way to implement them.

You're probably right, though, in that it's just glitched. For some reason I have two copies of Guidance 1; both I got from the crow (one I got on NG+2)
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>>165787243
>>165787278
I didn't say "what" I said "who", It could be the Mensis School attempt to get out of the Nightmare, it could be the kidnapped people or maybe both.
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>>165787613
Why would Mensis students try to get out of the nightmare?
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>>165787613
>no, we shall not abandon the dream
>>
>decide to finally buckle down and finish bloodborne after trying to remain spoiler-free since launch

>at gehrmann

>starting to realize the extent of what I've missed in the game

Jesus fucking christ, I feel like I missed like half the content, not even counting the DLC, which I just bought 5 minutes ago. Weapons, armor, runes--I haven't even FOUND a covenant! I missed the Stake Driver and the Powder Keg Badge because the gatling prick dodged off the roof fighting me, hit a cornice on the way down, died, and dropped his stuff THERE. I'm gonna need to do another playthrough or three.
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>>165787842
Also, I never even touched the Chalice whatevers.
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>>165787702
What even happened to them? Items say Mergo caused the stillbirth of their brains but we only see Micolash and Edgar in there.

>>165787825
Maybe Micolash is the one who was not reborn.
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>>165787976
>what happened to them
>we only see micolash and edgar

We see at least 100 mumified corpses with mensis cages on them through Yahar'gul and Nightmare of Mensis. Their brains got raped and their bodies got rekt.
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>>165787559
Like >>165787243 said he'll probably drop the badge but no covenant Rune. If he doesn't, you'll have to wait till you finish CD's or NG+. Or make a new character.
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>>165787976
>we only see Micolash
I'm ok with that
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Where are the madmen in hemwick lane, I got high Insight and I wanna see them.
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>>165788323
Only after you kill Amelia and see Laurence's memory
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>>165787589
>We don't have DLC weapons or armor being used by hunter NPCs/summons down there
Think again, Old Hunter Vitus in Old Hunter Garb and a Beast Cutter. Mensis Scholar Damian makes a comeback in Isz with the Loch Shield and Blacksky Eye.
Apparently in an update, it was supposed to be in a Depth 5 dungeon, but was accidentally replaced with a Great One's Wisdom.
"A third guidance rune does exist (30%) in depth 5 root dungeons as listed in the dlc game guide however no one has managed to discover it as of yet." Straight off the fextralife wiki. Not the most reliable source, but specifically mentions the game guide.
>>165787402
Mensis runs Yahar'gul, so the Snatchers are getting bodies for them. It's Reborn, so it's the reanimation of someone long dead, like the Mensis Scholars.
>>165787842
So you missed Cainhurst, probably Hemwick, likely most quest lines, possibly Yahar'gul part one and Upper Cathedral Ward, yeah you missed a very large chunk of the game, even more so if you didn't do chalices. And go back to the tower where you fought Djura, his stuff is at the top now. Not finding a Covenant? You didn't even find Valtr? He's in the windmill shack at the first Forbidden Woods shortcut.
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>>165788258
but there is also the question of how do I kill him?
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>>165788595
I did Cainhurst, got stuck at Logarius because he's a fucker, and am going to go back and kill him. Did Hemwick, and FINALLY finished Upper Cathedral earlier tonight. What a fucking shitshow, I lost like 28 insight. Thank god for Tonitrus.

And funny thing--I found Valtr for the first time like 2 minutes after I posted, going back through the forest to get the Deep Sea rune to make the run for the Blood Rock. Is he new? Or have I been running past him without noticing for like two years now?
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>>165788924
Also, yes, I did clear Hemwick.
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Who's the poor lad tied up in the witches basement?
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>>165788225
But why is Micolash still alive? Even in the Hunter's Nightmare some really old guys were still kicking.

>ywn fight The School of Mensis
>100 Memelashes awooing at the same time
>only attack is ACBeam
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>>165788924
He's been around for over a year, ever since the release of the DLC.
I feel your pain in Upper Cathedral Ward, that place is a horror show the first time around.
>>165788993
Some hunter who was important enough to entrust with the Rune Workshop Tool. Maybe some guy who tried fighting the Witches and got farmed for his tasty eyeballs.
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>>165788225
theres also dead people with mensis cages outside of the wetnurse boss fight aswell. so they didnt do too well in the nightmare either :^)
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>>165789126
Excuse me, it's "Memesis." You've lost all credibility with me.
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>>165787589
This is relevant
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>>165788875
Like I said, poison knives
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>>165789078
That's why, I did most of the game in the weeks right after release, then fell off after life intervened.

Wouldn't you know it--I checked the top of the clock tower, like a year since I killed him, and there's the powder keg badge. Thanks for the tip, anon.
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>>165789290
Yes. Go buy his attire in the Insight Shop if you haven't already, your Frenzy resistance will be through the roof.
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>>165789061
Well to be honest the memster is going crazy already. Probably didn't have that much long before his brain went stillbirth.

>a hundred awooers
>only attack is acb bean
No pls
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>tfw when you parry an anchor shark mid jump
Badass.
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>>165789669
>that feel when when
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>>165789592
How many Micolashes could you take in a fight if it's just them punching?
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>>165789221
how could i have been so blind...
why do i exist?
i thought i was the meme machine but... how can i miss such an obvious meme...
am i out of touch with the memes?
no, it's the other posters who are wrong
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>>165789770
kys yourself my dude
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>>165789396
>yfw you realize Djura was such a beastly idiot his idiocy transfered to his clothes and they protect you from overthinking yourself to death

Powder Kek
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>>165789791
I believe I now have full rights to your name and trip. Gimmie.
>>165789843
He wasn't uncommonly kind and dreadfully foolish for nothing. Keg weapons didn't require much brains to use, it mostly took strength.
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>>165789834
Ahh, kys, or some say kyss... Do you hear our hotlines?
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>>165789834
>kys yourself
>kill yourself self yourself

What does the "s" even stand for anyways?
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>>165790001
kek
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>>165790089
Mine
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>>165790089
No, continue with your life. But remember, you may be the Meme Machine, but I am the Meme Master. Remember me.
SNOS is my name
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>>165790089
So this is how trips work. God I already feel like such a faggot, where's a dick i can suck?
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>>165790239
>tfw it's too late even if i decided i didnt want to
>>165790398
you're own
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what are the most fun builds?
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>>165790440
>sucking your own dick

But that's not gay
>>
We tripfag general now?
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>>165790440
>you're
fuck it, i really am broken
>>165790551
true, maybe mine then
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>>165790593
Sure why not
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holy shit nu-bbg fucking sucks dick
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>>165790527
Anything with Arc or Blt
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>>165790527
This one
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It's happening, boys. Memesis is taking over. Grab your cages and rev up your awoos.
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>>165790681
Only their own dicks apparently
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I will now delete the post with the tripcode so it will no longer be found unless someone else posts it. please switch off your trips everyone and return to normality. I will no longer post under this trip code again.
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>>165790527
never run out of stamina.
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>FRC witches of Hemwick and Mad Ones
please please please release me
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>>165790896
you're not my boss
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>>165790768
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>>165791061
posting one more time under this just for this reply, switch it off or i wont help you again like i helped you with amelia :^)
:^)
:^)
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>>165791207
You helped me with amelia?
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assuming you're the guy with kaede in his psn name then yes, and several other times before that :^)
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Okay, the stake driver's cool and all, but all it's achieved is getting me killed.
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What the fuck are you doing bbg?
Please go to sleep
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>>165791279
>>165791482
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>>165791482
I think the only time ive legit asked for help was defiled pth and that one low level ludwig run, when I post in here other than that its to just open jolly co-op to those who want

thanks though
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>>165791692
i know, "help" was the wrong term
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SNOS here. I think I did something irreparable to this thread.
Everyone get a trip and change your name to a pun on Luci's, we're running him out of town.
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>>165791835
it doesn't work, it's been tried before, it gives him more attention. dont do it
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>>165791938
Okay, bad idea. Turn off your trips, we don't want to encourage him. I'm admittedly responsible for this, as I out-memed the Meme Machine
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>>165791938
That sounds hilarious
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>>165791835
just filter ((him)).
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why is orphan of yoyo so hard
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>>165792280
I did already, don't worry
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Do you guys ever wish this general was as active as /dsg/'s? Or at least as active as it used to be?

People said people would come back after they got bored of DSIII but that never happened.
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>>165792083
Kinda like using fire paper against Hotdog.
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What's the highest AR possible in the game?

>>165792728
I like it how it is
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>>165792728
No. In fact I wish the couple newfags we have would fuck off.
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well it says theres 89 posters so far, so theres a fair amount of people atleast
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>>165792728
Not really. I would like a bit more people but nothing on the constant shitposting level as /dsg/.
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>>165792840
50+/50+ Str/Skl full 32.6% Blunt Ludwig's. Or Poorman's gems if you're a madman. Stuff like HMS and Boomhammer can hit 1000+ with 50/50/50 Str/Skl/Arc but it's all split damage and Blunt LHB will still be higher.
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>>165792840
Highest I got was 1528 on my hms
Atk up with full HP is what made it so high
Otherwise it was 1140
But then again those weren't even Korean
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Does anyone want to quickly run through pthumeru ihyll with me?
Pass: bbg
Lv: 100
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>>165792840
A fully upgraded and chalice gemmed up fire stake driver with 99 arcane with charge attacks up runes +1,2, and 3 with oil urns and a transformed charged attack to an open enemy weak to fire can get you over 10,000 damage.
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>start playing BB a few months ago
>first ever From game
>awful at it, but keep at it
>fast forward to this past week
>one-shot bosses that I used to have huge issues with
>tfw I realize Im going to be the greatest Bloodborne player ever

I love this fucking game bros

also, how broken would a Tonitrus with 300 Durability be?
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>>165792982
/dsg/ has 200+
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Does the transformed Bloodletters damage scale soley with blood tinge or does it pull from strength in both transformations?
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how good are arcane converted weapons without asian gems? like just average ones youll pick up going through frc chalices?
will skill be better? or will the converted fire and bolt mean you can keep up with skill and strength
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>>165793294
but /dsg/ has multiple games (and really 2 series' with demon souls and dark souls) and seperate platforms. 89 posters for a game thats over a year old, on a single platform and lets face it, doesnt have a huge amount of content is pretty damn good
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>>165793175
Charge ATK up sadly only affects physical damage.

For a fire Stake you want two Cold Abyysals and a fire 27%
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>>165793175
>charge attack runes
W-What?
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>>165793331
Arc gems aren't korean dude. Converted weapons are usually better if you exploit weaknesses, 50/50 Str/Skl builds will usually go higher if you use BB pellets but that's a bigger investment in stats.
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>>165793557
>he doesn't know
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>If you ring your Beckoning Bell in the Hunter's Dream (need to unlock Gehrman/MP fight), and a person you summon has a Beast Claw equipped, it'll unlock the Beast Claw in your shop. This only works in the Hunter's Dream, and it doesn't work for any other weapon or weapon variants (Lost Beast Claw doesn't unlock the Lost version in host's shop, for instance). [TY TSMP]

WHAT?!?!?

IS THIS TRUE?
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>>165793572
yeah but i just mean if you do one build with arc gems with average stats which arnt the top tier ones you have to farm for (at 50 arc build) vs skill or strength builds with average gems which arnt top tier that youll get without having to farm for (at 50 skill build or 50 strength build) which would have better damage overall?
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>>165793892
It's patched
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>>165793941
FUCK
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Anyone up for pthumeru ihyll? I'm getting lonely trying to solo chalices.
Pass: bbg
Ringing at first lamp
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>>165793931
Arc usually since most enemies have weaker fire/bolt/arcane resist than Phys. Phys builds can use pellets and papers to catch up but that's added risk if you get hit where as Arc doesn't need to (those buffs wouldn't work either way for converted weapons).
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>>165793182
>>one-shot bosses

You meant that differently.
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god I hate these cursed chalices, everything kills you in two hits and they all have hyper armor
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>>165786219

>have 60 insight
>baby's cry can be heard


>have 99 insight
>nothing new
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>not using durability down gems on tonitrus
pussies
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>>165794592
>not HP down on chikage
wew lads
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>>165793304
Just bloodtinge
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>>165794545
this has always frustrated me no fucking end. at 99 insight i should be able to see miyazaki in the sky looking down at me like a fucking god or something
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>>165794805
>willem
>slowly gaining knowledge of the cosmos and great ones
>spend years trying to line my brain with eyes and fearing blood
>it's working
>look up in the sky one day
>theres a head of an asian guy looking down at me
>nope
>now i just sit in a chair all day and do fuck all
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>>165794689
>mfw sold all blood vials
>mfw slapped a hp deplete cursed droplet on pistol
>mfw 3 31% bloodtinge gems with hp deplete curse
>mfw have both equipped at all times
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midway through my 4th playthrough, I think I'm officially burned out famms. See you all in the Nioh general.
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Well Amygdala and Fire Pupper were a lot easier with this Simon's Bow.
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>>165795759
>Nioh
HAHAHAHA
see you when you realize how slow and clunky all other games feel in comparison
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>>165795759
see you tomorrow :^)
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>>165795173
>poor man with hp deplete and wheel
>rev that shit up
Become a god for half a second.
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>>165796226
what is a poor man gem?
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>>165796667
increase damage when low on health.
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>decide to do some farming in Murgo's Loft for some levels to finally screw Logarius

>enemies I've breezed through in seconds forever suddenly start fucking me up

every time
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>>165797031
>he didn't kill logarius at level 30
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>>165797202
>tfw able to defeat logarius flawlessly
The summons skip was a god send.
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>>165796113
>Slow
>Nioh

Pick one and only one
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>>165797202
It's hard, okay
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Should I buy Old Hunters now or wait for a sale or something?
$20 is as much as the game itself cost me.
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>>165798059
ToH is absolutely worth the 20$, and I say that as someone who wouldn't shell out the $15 for Ashes of Andariel.
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>>165797605
Just back stab him with off hand fist till second phase then parry. Also back stab him when he charges his buff so you don't have to deal with his bullshit.
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>>165796883
Is this a joke?
I'd literally run around with these the entire time at one HP
I'm the greatest circle tapper to grace BB
I'LL BE BACK SOMEDAY WITH AN INSANE AMOUNT OF AR
YOU WAIT ANON
REMEMBER ME
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tips for HMPH
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>>165798261
check the pastebin bro.
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>>165798345
Parry. Nowhere is safe, so stay away from him. When he goes to phase two, get a visceral in, it will probably save you.
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>>165798345
Beckon cooperators.
Interrupt
Dodge to 2 o' clock and counter, but don't get greedy
Git gud
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>>165798059
The DLC is usually never on sale, but it was this past Christmas for $10 for once
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>>165798059
The dlc will make your dick bleed red jizz
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>>165798059
100% worth the money if you're willing to spend it
best dlc fromsoft has made in my opinion
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>>165798345
just parry him
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Do you think Valtr noticed?
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this game makes me feel iffy on the inside

are we being controlled by aliens?

what if there's a giant spider tonsil thing hanging outside my house right now, but i just cant see it?
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>>165800760
Go outside and look for a whirling blue vortex. Then run into it and behold the divine.
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anyone got the isz glyph for farming chunks?
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wow, this is the first time this game has ever made me want to break my fucking controller on the ground. this boss isnt even hard at all, but its still giving me shit. I do the whole dodge-get behind it-dodge-get behind it thing and its stupid gay fire shit still gets to me. Im just about ready to drop this stupid fucking game
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>>165801780
ptwrx6tb
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>>165801780
jemmjmpi
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>>165801816
thanks bruh

also, unrelated to that, whats the maximum amount of notes you can have down at any one time?
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>bl4 run
>breezing through the game
>hit he one reborn
>can't hit him without getting kicked in the face and dying

Well fuck now what
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>>165801809
What boss, hotdog?
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>>165734096
looks like a tranny
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>>165801945
Dunno, if there was a cap I'd guess it's around 10-20 per character.
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>>165801996

the very FIRST hotdog. I had no problem during my first runthrough, but holy fuck I cant do any damage to it with my ARC build
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>odeon is literally talking to laurence in his theme lyrics
god bless latin and big M
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so i was doing an frc isz dungeon and got a bolt atk up 25.3%, did i do good?
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>>165801809
>>165802246
>he cant beat first hotdog
haha HOLY SHIT

end it senpai, end it all
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>>165801809
Is BB your first game?

>>165802026
Hey man, words can hurt.
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>>165801945
10 on one character, the oldest gets deleted for the newest unless it's protected
>>165802246
Don't bring Olek, he's worthless in fighting and his meat shield role isn't worth the boosted health. Use a Saw Spear with pellets
>>165802026
Not really, actually looks well done. Better than the faces I've produced
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>>165802321
Can you give us the translation? I remember a few months back we found translated lyrics for the Cleric Beast theme and Hail the Nightmare.
How much different is Laurence's theme in terms of lyrics?
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>>165802360
>>165802379

like I said, I had no problem with him with my retard STR build when I used the Axe. Tried beating him now with the Tonitrus and the Cane, but NOPE!
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>>165802347
its triangle if it matters
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>>165802470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQW2klU1cGI
You can see something is giving laurence the ins and outs of blood healing and the eventual punishment for abusing it, and given odeon IS blood i just connected the dots.
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>>165801809
How to Hotdog:

-Get anything-but-fire gems in your Cleaver
-Untrick
-R1

Congratulations. You win.
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>>165802558
Dude. Summon someone from here. It's not that hard. Wear fireproof gear.
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>>165802460
>Not really, actually looks well done. Better than the faces I've produced
It really does look like a tranny. Trust me.
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>>165801809
reminder that a literal suit from sony kiiled defiled hotdog WHILE given an interview
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>>165802635
Oh, shit. That's cool as hell.
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>>165802606
From Isz Watchers I assume? 25.3% is okay, they can go up to 27.2%
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>>165802635
Even better, Oedon existing in voice is singing to Laurence. If only Laurence knew Latin
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>>165802813
Shit man, what i wouldn't do for a full script of all songs, the lore that's hidden there could be HUGE.
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Spooky
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>>165802861
alrihgt, was just from a random one, wasnt farming or anything do was jsut wondering if id got particularly lucky
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>>165802994
Kinda yeah, Watchers usually drop Phys.
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>>165802908
Holy fuck man, that makes so much sense i got goosebumps.

I would argue he knows latin, given how much big M borrows from the catholics, goddamn i love this game
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>>165803329
Well he clearly didn't know Latin, otherwise he wouldn't be where he is. Unless Oedon just felt like being an ass and telling Laurence to not do the thing after he did the thing
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>>165803571
You have a point there,given humans couldn't hear the voices without going bananas, needing runes for the job.

While we are in the topic, what if the narrator of the little old hunters intro is kos?
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>>165803951
Holy cheese, people still think it isn't Kos? It's clearly Kos; the voice matches no other in the game (huskier and a thicker accent than Maria), it's the imparting of the curse after the hunters and scholars committed their atrocities in the Fishing Hamlet, and Kos was powerful enough as a stone's throw from a god to impart a curse lasting all that time.
I'm sorry, but I'm getting sick of this. It has to be Kos, it can be literally no one else.
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>>165804242
no, its maria
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>>165804242
Calm down you sperg.

It is literally just one of the fishing hamlet denizens saying the curse. You can hear them whisper it all throughout the area.

There is nothing in the game that suggests we can hear Great Ones speak in anything other than cosmic whispers, let alone in clear english with a slight accent. Stop being a fucking moron.
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>>165804242
Lets not forget that they cut a very important line from the game that was in the trailer "i call to the bloodloss wherever they be."

Kos had time to lean how to speak while having orphan, and the cursed chalices says that the only beings strong enough to release curses and hexes are old ones.
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>>165804396
I know I shouldn't even acknowledge this, but I'm doing it anyway. It ain't Maria, she would have been among the "fiends" mentioned in the curse
>>165804565
Okay, that I could buy, but I'm still holding onto Kos
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>>165804683
its maria though
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>>165804843
Enlighten me
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>>165804908
its maria
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>>165804960
k
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>>165805178
its gehrman
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>>165804565
Then again, Kos seemed to sympathize the villagers for what the hunters and scholars did to them, and the villagers refer to Kos as "mother." They could have adopted the chanting of the curse as a kind of talisman, or a way to ward off the successors of their torturers.
>>165804569
She could have learned from the villagers, and her anger was definitely provoked enough to release a curse of that magnitude.
>>165805413
I trust you, it's gehrman
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>>165804569
>i call to the bloodloss wherever they be

It's "a call to the bloodless, wherever they be" you beastly idiot
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>>165805768
Sorry, headache is killing me so i heard it wrong
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>>165805532
Sounds like a stretch, but I respect your interpretation.

However, I think you can hear the exact same voice whispering the curse in Fishing Hamlet, gotta double check tho
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>>165806023
Like I said, Kos could have learned to speak through the villagers, and the villagers adopted the curse as a sort of charm. I'm fairly certain you can hear those voices in the Hamlet, though, maybe only after the rain stops
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>>165756053
He dreamt he had a leg, and so he did.
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the untricked holy moonlight sword's best PVE move is just mashing R2
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>>165807669
you're right
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what would be better for a SL98 based arc build: 41/15/25/12/5/50 or 45/18/18/12/5/50 (18 for fire whirligig)?
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>>165807669
point blank beams tend to be better
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>>165807954
he said untricked
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>>165807945
The one on the right.

>>165808058
I thought he meant using it untricked and mashing R2 was better overall.
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>>165807945
First one for HMS, Wheel, Toni and Boomhammer. I'd take 3 out of End and put it into Vit.
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How are you supposed to fight dogs with the wheel? I try and fight them like I do with every other weapon (dodge and counterattack) and they always just move out of the way a split second before it connects because it is so slow
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>>165808430
Use a gun
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>>165808430
So swap to a faster weapon.
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>>165808430
trick wheel
use dash r1
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>>165808430
>see dog
>change to second slot weapon
not difficult.
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Hey guys, could I get some suggestions for fighting the Bloody Crow of Cainhurst? Been struggling as I'm a tad underleveled. Doing a quality build (25 str/50 skill are end goals,) using Ludwigs Holy Sword and Threaded Cane as a secondary for giggles. I don't need to fight him ASAP, I just want some input. Honestly I've had no trouble with this game up until him and he's a bloody NPC.
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>>165808135
would the first one be better for pve then? (the 25/50)
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>>165808619
Parry -> Visceral -> repeat
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>>165808685
Both are basically the same, 1st just let's you use the 4 weapons I mentioned effectively. So if you plan to use them then yeah it's better. If not, do the 2nd.
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>>165808746
Thanks. Pretty much what I've been doing but feels like my viscerals aren't doing dick. I know he has an assload of HP, but it feels pretty weak. Probably just need to farm chunks in the choir and punch my weapon fortification up higher + push my skill up further.
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>theres people who actually skip micolash's intro
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>>165808619
Use a shield to block bullets, or just dodge them. He usually shoots right after dodging like most Cainhurst knights. Parrying is doable if you're quick enough. If you want to cheese just lure him to the stairs and throw poison knives. Use numbing mist when he gets near 50%. Hit him when he backs away.
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>>165808619
Let him come to you, to start with, especially in tricked Chikage form. Trying to mirror him will probably get you killed. Stay away from the gun shots, those are the bulk of his ranged damage, and will probably kill you at point-blank range. Trying to parry/visceral can be a gamble, but go for it if you can. Don't waste a Numbing Mist on him, as he only heals once (in my experience). If he starts running toward you, it's probably safe to prepare a charged R2 and cheese him that way.
The main key to the fight is patience. Trying to play aggressively will get you killed. And don't listen to trips, it's usually not a good idea.
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>>165808987
Viscerals work faster than anything else, especially on a SKL build. Also: Equip the claw mark runes.

You can just walk to the side and his bullets will miss.
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>>165808502
>>165808519
>>165808569
okay I just thought the weapon would have some way of dealing with fast enemies. I can usually catch them with the tricked kirkhammer even, but not with the wheel

>>165808539
You mean dodge-forward (or roll) -> R1? Yeah that seems to be the only decently fast attack, with the backstep R1 maybe being second fastest. Everything else is slow as molasses though
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>>165809000
AWOOOOOOOOO
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>>165807669
I just did 4232 damage to a bloodlicker outside Cainhurst with 3 repeated R2 thrust attacks

the running R2 aint bad either, since it's basically the same attack
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>>165809000
>000
AW000
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so I followed the iosefka sliders exactly, double checked em over and over and they dont look like the included pics but they at least look like her its mostly just skin tone isnt the same but I followed the micolash ones and my end result was only like 50% mico, Im so confused because I followed it exactly, same starting face exact same sliders and choices and its just not that close
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>>165809104
This is what I did last night, basically. I gave him one last try before bed since it was the last of my blood vials but honestly I'm playing like absolute trash thanks to a massive inner ear infection. Got him to a sliver of health and went full tilt. And I usually don't. I just feel the need to be polite. Momma raised me that way, etc.
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Finally reached and defeated Yharnam Queen, quite a treat after a long, challenging exploration of chalices.
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>get within one hit of beating Orphan of Kos on my pure arcane build with just enough stats to use Tonitrus at level 100 after fighting him for about 6 hours
>he stuns me with a piss balloon and slams me, killing me from full health

immediately dropped character, why did they put the only pure arcane weapon behind the final boss of the DLC when arcane already blows?
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>>165810101
More than anything, it's the waiting game that kills Crowsteel. I can sympathize, but it's best to just let them talk to themselves.
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How are the beast cutter and church pick when converted to fire and bolt
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>>165810675
Tried my best to use Beast Cutter on an arcane build, it was shit.
Haven't tried Church Pick, but you lose out on what makes it good (all dat thrust)
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>>165810675

bretty gud
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>>165810675
cutter is better on an str build because it's full blunt and you can get the 32.6x2 and 1 HA to maximize the damage and pick is better for a skill weighted quality build because it's 90% thrust and can run 3x32.6 thrust gems
arcane can't get the same ar from them as physical focused builds can, though fire beast cutter can work against bosses combined with oil urns pretty nicely
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>>165810675
Both are great, Beast Cutter is more difficult to use but pays off when it hits. Pancakes Abbhorent with 2 tricked r2s. Church Pick is nice too, great for any build that's not Pure Blt.
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would my time be better spent getting a default or uncanny Holy Moonlight sword with two radials and a waning / triangle, rather than a triangle, radial and waning? I only say this because you can get 19.3% radial gems extremely easily (and the best radials possible are only .2% better) so you can just get two 19.3% with +5.6% OPEN FOES and a 21.5% nourishing abyssal triangle/waning. The open foes lets you do tremendous damage if you just attack when you're supposed to. Farming abyssals with that as secondary (and without a shit curse) would take forever
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>mfw trying to do laurence underleveled with +6 beast claws
I love suffering.
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On my first playthrough, around level 55. I can head to cainhurst, byrgenwerth or nightmare frontier next. Which would you recommend I go to in terms of difficulty, enjoyability and flavour next? The dlc is also an option but it handed my shit to me when I played my typical style of foght every guy and explore every nook and cranny. I know I know, first playthrough avoid bbg and handholding- I would just go try them all if I was at home but I'm at work for the next 6 hours daydreaming about all the fun I'm set to have when I get home
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>>165811216
Amy goes down quick with a Fire Stake and Oil Urns, but if you want an easier time go with Normal and farm gargoyles/Ron for Radials.
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>>165811028
>pancakces

Not him but what does that mean?
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>>165811580
Flattens. Floors. Lays 'em out. Beast Cutter tricked R2 flattens enemies, as does the non-runed Beast Claw R2.
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>>165811397
Cainhurst then Frontier. If you're playing online you'll risk getting invaded in Frontier, which might not sound pleasing. Plus Frontier is filled with poison, rock throwers and frenzy. Burgertown is much easier and shorter.
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>>165811397
just get the fuck out of the thread and do what you want dude enjoy your first blind playthrough
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>>165811397
I wish I could tell you but I know nothing about recommended levels for areas.
Just know you're in for a great time
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>>165811456
I had to kill her like 20 fucking times just for my *one* good triangle nourishing abyssal. And I would probably do it again (though I'd hate it) if I had understood that radials were not optimal for my HMS before I'd started putting chunks into it

But whatever, these open foes gems are so good. I'll get like 1500 damage on a jumping attack untricked
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What counts as "kin"? I have some cursed droplets from the story I guess that give a nice attack boost (I have zero good triangles) but give atk down vs kin.
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>>165811958
Very few enemies. Only really matters against Rom, Failures and Bribri, any other Kin is really weak to the point the curse wouldn't affect much if you use fire/bolt or thrust damage.
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>>165811958
Atk Down vs Kin is the best curse in the game.
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>>165811672
It's not blind at all, I never planned on owning a ps4 when the game came oit so I've seen dozens of streams and speedruns, looked up plot and gear etc. I'm enjoying the fuck out of exploring I just wanted to pass the time at work thinking about what I'll do next and didn't want my playtime to start off by getting smashed repeatedly by choosing poorly only to breeze through the other areas after by being way overlevelled
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>>165812096
I'm using pizza cutter because it was the best strength scaling weapon I could find. So I don't really know what damage type it does.

So the 8.3 to 19.8 boost at the cost of 9.3 less to kin is worth it?
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>>165811958
Alien looking guys. There's not that many of them.
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>>165811703
Thanks man it's been a blast so far, nearly creamed my pants when I took down the last shadow of yharnam after having used all 20 blood vials
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So what with this stupid random blue lighting effect throught the game?

There's just a bunch of random blue patchets of light here and there than don't see to come from anywhere.
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>>165812275
>getting smashed repeatedly then breezing
that's what I did, did chalices until I could do no more after unlocking them from bsb, and then ventured into the dlc after unlocking that and beating up ludwig and getting pizza cutter and his sword.

At that point I kind of facerolled most the game, either due to getting gud from fucking dying in chalices a lot or leveling up some, because I like to dump any souls into levels if I can. Probably both.
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>>165812275
I guess I can understand that I just get so bleh when I think of people ruining a fun blind experience cause I fucking LOVED my first blind playthrough. Even if I had to avoid spoilers for so long. In that case yeah I'd say do like frontier then cainhurst only cause the cainhurst boss can give people troubles. Byrger last for a few reasons. Explore EVERYTHING dude it's a great game and there's tons to find and I hope you just take your time and fucking LOVE it.
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>>165812164
stam cost increase is better
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>>165812291

Untricked is blunt, tricked is serrated.
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>>165812514
I did the first layer of the first chalice dungeon and realized they'd be too much fun to stop if I got going on them amd would end up similarly Op, so I decided to hold them until after I finish the rest. Speaking of which, if I go to fight moon president does it automatically bump me to ng+, or can I go back to do the dlc before accepting ng+ at a lamp similar to dark souls?
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>>165812291
I suppose so, Whirli does mainly Blunt untricked with a few Thrust attacks while tricked might be full Phys. I'm guessing the gem came from Winter Lanterns in Mergo's so you're nearing the end anyway.
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>>165812636
It's not, especially on some of the better weapons, which eat up a lot of stamina, such as the Rakuyo or Whirly.

Almost nothing counts as kin on the other hand, and those that do tend to be weak an easily killed. Atk dwn vs kin as seems to have zero effect in PvP as well.
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>>165812719
After MP it automatically sends you to ng+. Do the dlc before hand.
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>>165812425
Haha yeah it's a damn good feeling m8
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Anybody still up want to help me fight marytr logarius? I'll be ringing at fog. pass is bbg

>>165812440
It's just insight, nothing to worry about.
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>>165812809
It's been proven stam down gems are only a pixel of your stamina bar difference, for all intents and purposes they don't affect your weapon performance at all
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>>165812970
They were enough to drop me from 3 swings and a roll to 2 swings and a roll with a LHB. That's a lot, even if it is "just a pixel."

On the other hand, ADvK has virtually zero effect.
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>>165812919
Yeah that's the shit I'm talking about. Just position your hunter the right way and your head is suddenly the moon.

This insight will surely drive me mad
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>>165813187
>2 swings and a roll
>having that low end
kek
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on a pure bloodtinge build are 3x31.5% gems just raw best for chikage and bloodletter?
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>>165814512

If you're not using anything other than the blood damage in the tricked forms, then yeah.

Good luck getting those offshapes.
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>>165814512
yeah
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>>165814512
untricked they would be useless (except for transition attacks) but yeah they would do insane damage. Good luck finding 3 of such gems though. They only come as offshape circle gems. It will take you a fucking eternity
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>>165814512
27.2% Phys would do fine on them if you don't want to spend hours farming for perfect 31.5% OoS gems. Those are the best though (not counting the stupidly rare 32.6% Blt gems from possibly Watchers).
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Any advice on beating Orphan? I've tried sticking to his right side, visceraling him with Augur on first phase, but god damn I just can't do enough damage to his fat ass health pool and I really want Kos Parasite.
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>>165814837
https://youtu.be/0TJrw5gwx-o

Basically, just learn his tells, work on your spacing, and always fight the second phase in the water.
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>>165814837
This for ez mode once you get down the timing for parries. 22.3% Droplets will do fine, you just need a Saw and pop BB Pellet + Paper (fire paper does a little more damage on Orphan).
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Is it actually possible to beat Laurence with the Beast Claws without taking obscene amounts of damage due to your pathetic claw range during his final form?
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>>165814983
>tripfag

ew, did I ask bitch
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>>165815065
Yes, did it at BL38 with 30 Vit. Tricked r2s are useful but sticking to r1s is fine enough. Wear Charred Hunter or Bone Ash armor. The Winter Lantern droplets near OoK definitely help.
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>>165814679
>>165814738
>>165814775
32.6% gems exist?! I already spent like 4 hours getting two decent radials
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>>165815309
>4 hours

Say your thanks to RNGesus and accept what you have there.
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>>165815309
Anon, 4.4% extra damage is not worth the autismal korean grinding you'll need for that.
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>>165815309
They exist, but not from the Shotgun fattie who drops 31.5%. Most likely from the boss, don't bother trying to farm for it since there's less than a handful ever recorded.
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>getting oos hamlet lantern gems
Huh
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>>165815309
Fuck you I hope your Chicago gets ACTUALLY LOST
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>>165815309
Did the math, you're only gonna get 44 extra damage if you farm for them. You already have about 1017 ar, it's not gonna make a difference because you'll be killing people in 2 hits anyways.
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>>165815645
>1017 AR

Full 31.5% Chicago doesn't even hit 900 AR, barely goes over 800.
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>>165815604
I once saw a pic of someone with a circular bolt gem.
I wonder what power could be made with a pistol with that gem
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I feel like I'm literally learning Laurence all over again, holy fuck. This is insane.
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>>165815645
>>165815634
>>165815482
>>165815385
I can't sleep soundly knowing that my weapons are sub-optimal. I want those blue numbers so badly.
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>>165814983
>leaves /dsg/ when someone is trying to help them

>>165811594
>>165811704
>>165812184
>>165812383
>>165812753
>>165812864
>>165813091
>>165813246
>>165813441
>>165813775
>>165813884

>>165815030
This last one here is the worst part of it
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>>165815995
Nothing at all, you can't convert Blt damage.
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>>165815997

That's the fun of a low-level run.
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>>165816241
I'm not even low level. BL67 with +6 Beast Claws, 29 VIT, 35 STR and 25 SKL. By no means should I be struggling this much. I'm just bad.
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>>165815309
what the fuck the lost chikage takes a circle gem!? I had no idea
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>>165815856
Weird

>184+184+31+618=1,017
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>>165816063
why do they hate arcane so much ;_;
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>>165816241
This

You're always ginne be tanking shit at somepoint. When you can get one shotted however, you actually start learning all boddes moves in depth.
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>>165816412
>adding Phys damage with Blt damage
They're separated idiot. Untricked is Phys, tricked is Blt.
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>>165816570
My bad

you need to put a tampon on that raging pussy of yours
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>>165815604
One of them dropped a radial cursed adept blood gem on me once. Probably my most unusual gem from them.
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>>165816703
Lmao, did I hit a nerve :^)?
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I'm trying to build an arcane build but I'm having trouble in Old Yharnam.
For one there doesn't seem to be any coop down here.
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>>165816905
But Old Yharnam is ez anon. What is troubling you?

I could boot up and run it with you if you want.
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>>165816905
Drop a pass here for co-op. Not many people ring in the main game.
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>>165816905
Stick a fire gem in a saw spear, go nuts
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>>165816905
>>165817061
this or flame paper and bbp. if youre low arcane then do the bbp thing on a non converted weapon
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>>165815309
>184
>+six-fucking-hundred

So fucking fair and balanced.
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>>165816905
Your torch at that level does more damage then you would think. Two hits the beasts there.
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>>165817004
I'm not sure what about the build specifically is different, but that big church usually screws me over.
Also yes please assistance would be nice I have none of the tools I need except flamesprayer.
Setting pass as bbg
>>165817061
>>165817126
Kind of going down there to get the first chalice and don't have a reliable source of flame paper.
>>165817134
I do that but it's a little slow
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>>165817226
Alright I'm bootin' up.
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>>165817134
What? You shouldn't need any scaling at that point. I always focus on getting 20 Vit, then up to 20 end, then 30 vit before I start leveling scaling stats. I never have any issues with Old Yarnham.
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>>165816362
the counter damage on his big delayed horizontal swipes combo (first form) is what always kills me. His second form isnt all that hard IMO; you just need to stay on his armpit and dont worry too much about his regular lava
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>>165817275
Thanks, I'm ringing near lamppost
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Can any converted bolt weapon keep up with a 25/50 tonitrus on things with a bolt weakness? I don't use bbp all that often and I'm getting REALLY bored of the basic bolt mace
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>>165817371
I'm having so much trouble with his first form that I barely even see his second form, and on the second form my pathetic range fucks me over in ways I've never seen with any other weapon.
I'm at my wit's end here.
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>>165817429
Not as far as I know, arcane scaling on every god damn weapon blows so hard that the 70% bonus on Tonitrus outdamages them all
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>>165817226
Use the corridor/stairs to funnel the enemies toward you. Don't go immediately to the bottom floor. Also keep your torch out to scare some of the beasts. Otherwise I don't know what else to say besides get good.
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anyone wanna help me with ihyll pth descendant?
password is splash
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>>165817503
well lets see how that japanese guy does it at BL4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rknqupBd5Hw
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>>165817429
Bolt converted weapons can shred stuff pretty well. Toni is boring and split, though can dish out damage real well. Serrated weapons like Saw Spear and Whirligig might be better for beasts like Laurence and Hotdog. Saif is a popular choice for Bolt.
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>>165817523
Ah man that seriously sucks. I don't mind the reach of the need for buffing as much as how stupid boring it is.
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>>165817309
Neither did I. I used the torch sporadically and beat it all in one go. I was just trying to give tips. I-i'm sorry senpai.
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>>165817714
>dodging with some attacks instead of into them and not getting hit
>I'm doing the same and getting hit
This video is no help.
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>>165817840
have you tired hitting him but not getting hit? worked for me
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>>165817694
Yeah, I'll help
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what is the "point of no return" as I have not finished the DLC yet, but have no idea what or when the game ends and shoves you into ng+

I got to a elevator with a bride in front of it but just unlocked the shortcut and went to explore other stuff.
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>>165817915
A facetious question deserves a "kill yourself".
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>>165817732
It's probably the least stylish weapon in the game.
I wish they'd given the Burial Blade and Blades of Mercy half-decent arcane scaling at least.
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>>165817997
When you talk to Gherman while the house is on fire. It's still possible to not progress to NG+ after that but you'll have to meet some requirements.
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>>165817840
it looks like the guy is mostly just straddling the line between where Laurance would do a close range attack and where he would do a mid-range attack, and every time he baits Laurence into doing a mid-range one, the player goes in and hits him a couple times.

Rolling will work no matter the direction of the attack as long as you are in iframes while the attack is passing over you. If you roll with the attack, you have to be more precise because it's so much easier to roll early and be hit by the tail end of it
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>>165817997
Game sends you into NG+ when you beat the last boss baka
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>>165818103
sounds like he needs to turn his fucking fireplace off.

so i can just leave the house on fire whenever that happens and continue like normal for anything else?

>>165818128
pls
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>>165817997
After a certain boss the doll will tell you to talk to gherman near the tree. Talking to Gherman will give you certain options that leads to different endings. It's the point of no return for certain options.
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>>165817950
thanks for the help if youre albatross, much appreciated
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>>165818204
Yes.
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>>165817429
Possibly/probably not, but that's the Toni's schtick.
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>>165817275
Thanks for the help, I didn't know you could get up there in that evil church to be honest.
>>165817580
I usually do but for some reason they were really aggressive against this character. Fire barely deterred them for some reason.
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>>165818204
Yeah, just don't talk to him. It'll catch fire once the boss in Mergo's Loft is killed. If you wanna hear some extra dialogue after defeating 2 bosses in the DLC from the Doll don't kill it yet. When it catches on fire the Doll is stuck on the same piece of dialogue.
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>>165818109
Obviously what's happening is that I'm rolling a fraction early and and getting hit as a result. That plus the fact that I have half that guy's offensive power (at best) and microscopic range is going to make Laurence an extremely difficult fight. And I'm also just plain bad.
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>>165818372
No problem m80.

For future playthroughs, you don't need to kill Djura. Actually he has some unique dialogue if you come back later. Don't worry though; you didn't miss any items or anything by killing him.

Also, you still have an area with a couple items to explore I think, unless you found it before you came here. There's a couple ways to get to it, but the easiest to explain is to just run past the Rifle Spear hunter roaming around on the raised area near where the second ladder shortcut comes up, near the church-with-the-hanging-BSB's entrance.
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>>165765832
It seems that enemies do have poise in Bloodborne, just not hunters. In addition to super armor. I've noticed that the church guys are usually staggered by "normal" poise break attacks, but during their attack animation my beast cutter's tricked R2 doesn't even flinch them despite being a "heavy" attack.
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>>165818740
You miss the gesture
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>>165818873
I can flinch the big church guys out of any of their attacks with the fist of gratia or the transition attack from tricked HMS to untricked HMS. And I bet the second R2 from the beast cutter would pancake them, like the HMS
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>>165818051
>>165818317
>>165817723
What do you think of a bolt kirkhammer? It's tricked form probably wouldn't benefit from the flat bolt on the gems very much but it's scaling is pretty good and it'll stagger the shit out of most kin.
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>>165819029
Wouldn't be bad, I don't like having to invest so much in strength and skill though
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>>165818896
Oh, right. And a good one at that.

Bummer.

>>165819029
Any kind of element on Kirk is great. It has high base damage and great arc scaling. I run mine Arc but Bolt would probably get more mileage in PvE and PvP. Fire a little more in PvE but a little less in PvP.
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>>165819005
Pancaking attacks have the highest poise break and have always been special in a way, because they cause a unique animation to play.
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>>165819029
Any converted weapon is fine, scaling doesn't matter much since a Cold Abyssal or two would bring any of them to S. Kirk is okay, the flat Bolt on Abbhorent Abyssals would really help the shitty modifiers on the untricked mode.
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>>165819158
>shitty modifiers on the untricked mode
.7 of 750AR isn't THAT bad considering their speed.
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>>165819105
I'm already in a 25/50 build the tonitrus is just boring to use and gem up

>>165819158
I know technically any weapon is viable I'm just trying to not cripple myself by not using the tonitrus
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>>165819213
Most weapons have 1+ modifiers with the same speed. Kirk gets higher AR but a Saw can usually out DPS the sword.
>>
>>165819295
Oh I know. But again, anything compared to a Saw is gonna look pretty bad.
>>
>>165818740
I was considering running past him but I got kinda sick of being shot at.
I did not grab those doing that now.
>>
why do enemies in the hunters nightmare before Ludwig drop so few blood echoes? I get more from the enemies in Yahar'Gul
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>>165819284
You won't cripple yourself, any converted weapon will do phenomenal damage to the point it isn't much of a difference to the Toni.
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>>165819417
They already spent them all
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>>165818740
If you don't kill him you miss out on his armor set.
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>>165819480
Getting radial bolts was a real pain in the ass until the lightning callers in the Nightmare.
>>
Holy crap Beasthunter Saif is badass
>>
>>165819492
Yeah but you can kill him after you get Brush Off Dust, not vice versa.
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>>165819550
My favorite part is the invisible extended blade attached :^)
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>>165819529
I don't even know where you'd get Radial Bolts without CD's. Cold Abyssals from Elder would be better for most converted weapons once you hit FRC.
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>>165819605
Saif is the only weapon in FCs I just can't enjoy fighting against.
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>>165817789
>Apologising to Shittifer
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>>165819616
Early game it's a huge pain in the ass, as far as I can tell I only got them off the lightning faggots in the Hunter's Nightmare and ONCE as a drop off one of the Guts wannabes in Pthumeru.

I thought scaling gems were supposed to be shit.
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>>165819682
Use a shield.
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>>165819761
Early scaling gems are. But FRC Cold and Heavy Abyssals are the best, don't bother with any other kind since they don't go up to +65. Colds are for Arcane, Heavies for Strength. Standard setups for converted weapons is 2 Colds and one fire/bolt/arcane gem. They have to be +65 to be worth it, any lower is trash. Some weapons like Parasite and LHB only need 1.
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>>165774834
You can.
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Anyone need help?
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>>165819958
Damn I was led to believe they were all garbo.
Guess I have to spend a gorillion hours having Pthumerian Descendant rape my anus to get a good beast slaying saw cleaver
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>>165820118
>make a qt brown huntress
>start the game
>she's a pitch black nigress
There's something seriously wrong with the preview screen in the character creation. It looks nothing like the in-game model. Although skin color aside it does end up looking better in the actual game than on the preview most of the time.
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>>165820168
>Anyone need help?

Me, I can't stop browsing /bb/g
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>>165820195
Not Descendant, Elder. Way much easier. 2nd phase can be cheesed with BSE spam. Droprate for good Abyssals aren't bad either, you could easily get several good ones in a day for 5+ weapons if you don't care about secondaries.
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>>165819761
You really don't need bolt in the early game. Tonitrus buffs itself pretty fiercely and converted Fire weapons are almost as good on everything except Hotdog, and for him any trash phys gems in a trash weapon is more than adequate.

The first Bolt gems I'm aware of are from the Silverbeasts in the Night,mare Frontier. So, theoretically, you could farm them for off-shape radials. But again, not really worth it sice Fire can easily carry you through to Loran, where it will be better, and everything drops better Bolt gems anyway.

Pthumerian Descendant is far and away the easier of the two. Just dash everything he does in phase one to 2 o' clock and punish.

Then in Phase 2 just spam BSE; it keeps him on total lockdown and 25 BSEs at 50 Arc can hit him for 50%.
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>>165820430
>Pthumerian Descendant
Elder* obv.
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whats the best setup to get the most out of hlms on a 25/50 str/arc build?
in the thing in the op it says "19.5% atk + 15 phys" for the first 2, does the atk one effect arcane damage aswell?
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>>165820552

General ATK up increases all kinds of damage, which makes it good for split damage weapons like Wheel/HMLS when you're leveling stats for both types of damage.
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>>165820552
>does the atk one effect arcane damage aswell?
Yes. Nourishing gems affect all attack values.
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>>165820598
>>165820616
and those would be best for 25/50 str/arc right?
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>>165820642
Yes.
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>>165820698
alright thanks, just wanted to make sure before i go start farming shit
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>>165820552
Normal or Lost, Rom/Gargoyle Nourishing Radials and Amy for Triangles/Wanings.
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>>165820451
Man, what's with this guy and whore-looking dykes?
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>>165820762
Don't ask
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>>165820762
They are like guaranteed >(you)s
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>>165820876

Don't tell
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Stop replying to tripfags.
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>>165821248
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>>165820552
+5.x% to open foes >>> +15 physical damage. Your counterattack damage is off the chain

the best setup is probably lost HMLS, but that means you will have to farm amygdala for 2 of the gems, and farming amy sucks and takes forever

I would just get regular or uncanny and farm the gargoyles for 19.3% gems with +ATK to open foes. It wont take nearly as long as farming 2 amygdalas for 2 good nourishing abyssals
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