/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

>enginedev
kek

>he doesn't use his own language
LMAOing at your life.

>>165633237
i'd love to write my own language if i ever got the neetbux from my game. It'd be specifically for vidya-dev.

Wayfinding system in Metanoia: The Sacrifice is up and running now. Just have to add the fading effects and get the thing to transition you to your destination when you solve the puzzle, then set the number of steps you need to solve the puzzle to 1.

Someone gave me 001 Game Creator as a gift. Is it really any good?

>>165633449
It's not amazing. There's some interesting features in it to be sure. It was a lot more interesting before Unity put out its new UI system as it was the only engine at the time that came with a dedicated UI/Menu creation tool that wasn't utter ass.

Reminder your game can be an absolute piece of shit as long as it's fun.

anime

>>165633809
it wouldn't be a piece of shit then

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>create new simple enemy
>something doesn't work
>6 hours debugging in total confusion because everything should be working based on testing the pieces individually
>a variable was passed in just right enough to not have errors but just wrong enough not to work

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>>165633810

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>>165633549
Maybe I'll stick to GameMaker, I have trouble learning new things.

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Started working on locations, the map is almost done.
Polished some trees, but one of them doesnt look quite right yet.

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are you just like, making progress, guys? Thanks to some advice from a friend I fixed the mini crescents here getting stuck in the floor

>>165634101
your character's feet look too small

>>165634037
All engines have their own strengths and weaknesses. They're all going to make making some sorts of games easier and other sorts of games harder than other potential engines.

Stick to whatever you're comfortable with - but bear in mind that engines are not created equal.

>>165634101
If the tree that doesn't look quite right is the left tree in the upper-middle screenshot: It's because the lighting looks like it's coming from the camera where on the tree next to it it looks like it's coming from above.

>>165634258
I have lots of choices, but I've been using GameMaker since '97.

>>165634437
To clarify, I've been with it since Mark released WIP and demo programs. Pre 1.0 stuff.

>>165634437
I know how it is. I've been using RPG Maker since '99, myself, so I've got that 'home field advantage' engine knowledge you've got with GM. Knowing it that well though, I know that I wouldn't want to try and make a roguelike in it over GM:S (I've been using GM since '02). I know, conversely, that if I want to make a 2D horror game there's no better engine for it right now but RPG Maker.

Just so long as I don't want good dynamic lighting effects that is. If I want that, I'll need to either submit to endless frustration and micromanagement in GM:S or I could just do it in Unity -- where I'd only be comfortable doing so these days because I have assets to manage dialogs.

I'm also pretty good at BUILD and ZZT. Lots of hours in my youth lost to those softwares.

>>165634550
that's a pretty long time. I've used it since version 4 and never met anyone else who's used it longer

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Slimegirl, now with 200% more boob jiggle.

Still not completely satisfied, but its good enough for now and I can get back to working on UI shenangians.

>>165634143
Looks good man.

>>165634681
I get that, totally.
I keep meaning to TRY Unity, but I never get further than installing it.

Oh god ZZT! I've played with DigitalMZX recently, still fun.

>>165634704
I'm sure there's others that used it before me, like the guy who introduced me to it.

Anyone have tips for doing a combo system where you can freely chain into different moves at your leisure based on a n input? Something similar to tales of where any arte can be used in combo with any other arte.

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on a scale from 0 - memepoly, how's the grass?

>>165635623
look up if statements and storing variables

>>165635748
>0..memepoly
There is no range. you're at memepoly

I don't hear too much about Unity networking. I know they have almost everything there for you to use, but how effective is it in practice?

>>165635748
half way there if it sways/displacable

all the way if it doesn't

What do you think is the best method for level generation in a roguelite-lite? Just generate a random room shape and then place down a few objects? I kind of have a feel that little "structures" that include smaller rooms/chambers, other objects, and enemy patterns that appear in the main room is a better way of doing it.

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the comfy jam image does NOT look very comfy
>centered on the people outside in the rain
>one of the guys inside is tossing a knife around in his hand and also right next to an electrical socket
>chairs not balanced at all, likely about to fall over any second
>poster warning their id might be checked at any time

>>165635960
I tried networking my game (notaschoolshooter) and it was a major hassle

The real big issue seems to be the lack of good documentation, lack of consistency of exactly how something works, and just general difficulty searching your issues.

But it really depends on the game you're developing. Mine is real time wit AI, and it was cancer (especially the AI), but a turn based game would be super easy

>>165635748
>how's the grass?
bad, make them proper grass straws rather than mini bushes

>>165636862
Because why would I

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danmaku x3!!! !

Swapping between 3 colors is way too hard I think it might be a shit mechanic

>>165636535
how about now senpai

i have some comfy pics to choose from

>>165636862
I'm honestly still confused about what it actually is. Something to do with Unity?

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I've spent the last four-five hours just getting spent casings and discarded mags to not clip through the floor or jitter around once they come to rest. As a compromise, they simply become completely static once they come to rest.

I might consider having a "More Expensive Physics" option that leaves them all physically active so you can kick them all over the map.

Gonna have to do something about the sound at some point, the casings alone can max out audio channels!

>>165637163
I liked your demo more than any other on demo day

>>165637027
it's pretty comfy
although I'm in the middle of a heatwave so the kotatsu is triggering me pretty hard

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>>165637027
much comfier thanks

>>165637269
we just had kotatsu party but it is below zero

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>>165637391
Should use the ultimate comfy image

Comfy guy

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>BAC dropping bellow 0.2
>nothing left to refuel with

i'm so fucking sick of the anime, god damn. Stop.

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>>165637651

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>>165637651

>>165636862

I dont even know what monogame is

>>165636862
literally who?

>>165638042
It's funny that I only have this thread and the /a/ thread about this show open right now.

I really want to a promise with her desu

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>>165637642
>find some xo cognac that my brother hid away
Hallelujah!

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Progress

>>165635748
>how's the grass
Not usable in a large scene/10

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i didn't even bother to make rough sprites to test this i just covered the front stuff with the colors

at least i know the 6-direction rotation is looking okay, i gotta make front and back gun sprites too

although i might just leave it at left and right sprites with the sideways gun to make 1/3 of the sprites i'd have to do in this way

>>165639386
Because I can barely handle the math required for 2D. I flunked Calc2
Also I only dev while drunk, which doesn't help.

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>>165639386
Because I don't know how to focus on completing a task, if I did I would be well on my way to making a game.

>>165639567
you can honestly just get away with the left/right sprites
or even just one and flip it horizontally
noone would blame you, people do it all the time

>>165634707
would ejaculate inside/10

>tfw again wasted money for assets which I can't even get to work
I should just give up. It makes no sense. My prgress is 0 for days already.

>>165640015
i haven't touched my game in 7 months. don't be like me.

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I think I'm calling it quits with UE4 here. It reminds me too much of work between the poor (and on a couple occasions flat out wrong) documentation, compile times, and general unpleasantness that comes with the absolutely insane way that UE4 implements its C++ as a pseudo-scripting language. It's certainly impressive and kind of a technical achievement, but it turns doing nearly anything in a minefield.

Missiles were totally rewritten in a similar fashion to the bullets. They can guide in on stuff, but I couldn't get them working dynamically because it crashes on what seems like trying to call the fire function on something that hasn't been instantiated yet and I just can't be assed anymore to track down why.

I've still learned a lot though, and I feel like I actually understand the basics of the engine. I appreciate a lot of the things it has built in that you would have to manually write otherwise and those are a great help. There's a ton of extremely useful gameplay framework stuff in there. However at the end of the day I find it unpleasant, unforgiving, and extremely fickle to work with. I ain't got time for that shit. I get enough of that at work.

>>165640015
>I should just give up
No you should not, make your own assets, even if they are just squares from paint, you will know how to use them, and if your game becomes serious, as in, you can take peoples shekels for it, you pay an artist to do the artwork.
By the time the artist is done, you should know how to handle assets properly and subsequently, maybe be able to make enough dosh of your shitty game to cover the artist commission fees-

>>165640183
What are you going to use instead?

Are we witnessing another ascension from dev to enginedev?

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>>165640183
this is kind of distressing to hear as i was just about to switch from unity to U4 just for blueprint. i can't continue without a visual scripting aid because im retarded.

for someone like me would it really be that bad? i had feared i would have a more difficult time with the U4 UI and workflow in general.

>>165640309
>make your own assets, even if they are just squares from paint
My problem is not the artwork (for now at least), it is the coding, and understanding how Unity works.
I'd have to study coding for years to be able to make the assets I bought by myself.

>>165640494
>I'd have to study coding for years to be able to make the assets I bought by myself.
What?
Unity literally imports blender files directly, all you have to do is set the point of origin correctly.

>>165640581
He is probably talking about things beyond art assets

>>165640581
I am not talking about making models, I am talking about coding. Coding is wayyyyyyyyyyy to complicated for me. I couldn't learn this shit properly in years.

>>165640458
>for someone like me would it really be that bad?
If you don't know what you're missing when it comes to programming, you'll probably enjoy it more than I did. I know a few people who do everything 100% Blueprint and just deal with it. One of them is practically a UE4 shill because he loves it so much.

Your mileage may vary.

>>165640713
>Coding is wayyyyyyyyyyy to complicated for me. I couldn't learn this shit properly in years
Then I've got news for you, game development isn't for you, because importing assets are the least of your problems.

>>165640183
Sadly C++ in UE4 is a minefield, you are better off using BPs

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Here's a simple thing I made in unreal blueprints

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>>165640458
>blueprint
hhahaahahahahahahahaahhah
welcome to hell
t. mayhem league dev

>>165640808
>game development isn't for you
Making games isn't just about coding. Most programmers can code like masters but still make complete shit games.
Also, it's not that I don't get anything done, it's just the current thing I try to implement which is too complicated for me.

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>>165640895
>unreal blueprints

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>>165640930

why would you not use functions/macros

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>>165640930
he's really pushing blueprints to their absolute limit and clearly skilled at what he's doing but fucking hell why

>>165640940
>it's just the current thing I try to implement which is too complicated for me.
If loading an asset into unity is too complicated for you, then you've got some serious problems, there is well defined documentation for this kind of shit.
So, again, if you can't handle that, then game development isn't for you.

>>165640940
You said the same thing about at least three other things. Just fuck off.

>>165641001
Because not everyone needs to rely on crutches for noobs like yourself

>>165641052
>If loading an asset into unity is too complicated for you
It's not about loading something in unity, you dumbfuck, it's about implementing it into my game, disphit.

>>165641051
yeah i don't get it
that entire image can be rewritten in 40 lines of actual C++ code
maybe hes just a masochist

>>165640895
What if you have a different weapon?

>>165641147
>It's not about loading something in unity, you dumbfuck, it's about implementing it into my game
So you can't read documentation, it's literally the same, use the Unity asset pipeline, doesn't matter where you implement it, it's the same api.

>>165640893
A minefield is a great way to describe it. Next time I give UE4 a shot I think I might just lean even heavier on the BP because it's kind of ridiculous the hoops you have to jump through and the digging you have to do to in order to make what you'd think should be basic things work in UE4.

>>165641058
I am still working on the same thing, fucktard. Not everyone is satisfied with making boring shit games like you guys here.

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>>165641279
>Not everyone is satisfied with making boring shit games like you guys here.
>can't handle asset importing in unity
>better tell these folks their games are shit
10/10 m8

>>165641237

Right now you switch modes by pressing 1-3..

It's very easy to make a classic doom type setup where there's only 10 or so weapons and you can simply switch between them by pressing a button.

If I wanted to make a more complex weapon system I'd have to make a different system.

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>>165640930
i know, and i'm prepared for it. i can't code at all due to severe dyslexia so i don't have a choice.

its either spaghetti or no game at all for me.

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You can sit on benches.

>>165641279
You'll never accomplish anything.
>how do I make enemies face the player?
>how do I import assets?
>REEEEE YOUR GAMES SUCK REEEEE

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what is this junk and how do i get rid of it

>>165641253
>So you can't read documentation
To make use of the documentation you actually have to know your problem, smartass.
I don't even know what the problems are with the asset I try to implement. I don't know what I should search for there.

>>165641417

delete it all

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>>165641393
>facing wrong direction on bench

my autism cannot handle this

>>165641437
Protip: don't insult the people you're asking to help you.

>>165641458
deleting it removes meshes

>>165641437
>I can't program for shit
>but I'm totally capable of making a game if you guide me through every step of the process
RTFM

>>165641530

delete them all

>>165641526
No, I just shouldn't ask for help here in the first place. It's just full of aggressive retards here anyway.

>>165641634
i agree
please leave

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>>165641604
t-thanks
;-;

>>165641634
Yes, exactly. Now leave.
You've already said the same exact thing at least twice in the past days. Seriously fuck off.

>>165641634
Yeah it is.
But it's also filled with people who are weirdly willing to help

>>165641634
No, we just expect you to be able to comprehend basic documentation, if you can't do that, you need to go back to the basics(i.e. learning the language) and then come back to game development once you've mastered said language on at least a intermediate level.

>>165641679

you're off to a better start now

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How's my dog look so far?

>>165641279
kek
>I WILL MAEK SUCH GRET GEMS YU GUIS
>uhhhhh how do i import my redquare.bmp into unity pls i watched like 10 tuotrials and still don't get it xDDDD
this must be calming for people who are shit devs to know that at least they aren't as shit as you are

>>165641740
meme/10

>>165641384
dyslexia only causes grammar mistakes it has nothing to do with coding you excuse making pile of lazy lard

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>>165641751

it really is

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so what kind of weapons do I need to make things interesting?

>>165641828

beamsword

>>165641828
Sharkgun.

>>165641994
>Sharktitsgun.
ftfy

>>165641828
Beamshark
Swordgun

>>165641793
Meme in a good way or shit way?

>>165641828
Why not go the full megaman way?
Same gun different things that come out

>>165642128
Sorry bro, shit way.
Seriously stop with the doge/deal with it memes.

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>have some sort of ptsd or whatever the kids these days take adderall for
>can't focus for shit
>end up writing a sadpanda api implementation in Rust instead

>>165642207
Shit, I wasn't really trying to go for that, I'm just really shit at art.
Should I just go for a different breed?

>>165642307
Your post makes no sense

>>165642132
Well that's what Im going to do, but I need nice weapon power ups, making it shoot rockets is a bit boring

>>165642380
>Should I just go for a different breed?
Yes, and drop the sunglasses, German shepherds are sexy.

>>165642386
I'm also 1 bottle of whiskey, 1/2 bottle of Amarula and about 5 fingers of Cognac into a fucking glorious drunken haze.
Fuck sense.

>>165642472
Then go the dead space rig way and start with a small blaster optically beef it up with every upgrade achieved

>>165641828
The best mechanic is instant weapon switch and you have to combo different weapons to be effective

Post a screenshot of your dev environment right now, or krampus will eat your mother.

>>165641812
i was going to what i actually have which is dyscalcula, but it sounds made up so i just say dyslexia.

>>165642821
>dyscalcula
Dysdracula, is that siome kind of vmpir inmunity+?

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>>165642731

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>>165642965
Got a giggle out of me

>>165642981
You must be living the dream, everyone makes fun of fat nerds, but holy fuck, there is no better way to get shit done than be surrounded by your peers.

>>165642981
>>165643054
>devving on a laptop
i'd rather kill myself

>>165643009
Gaggle all ou want negor, Im serious, I bet the only reson I dont habe a game is because thos fuckin wampirs are giving me animea.

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Here's a little something.

Usually, my progress gets choked up because of art, so now I'm trying to go with very basic programmer graphics until I have something playable & fun.

>"""""""roguelite""""" shooter
>Hp, ammo & stamina bars

>Player can roll, dodging enemy fire
>Melee weapons
>>Rolling & melee weapons use stamina

>Guns have unlimited ammo but mag size is limited

>Player HP regenerates up to a point, currently regen is at 50%
>>Half of damage taken can be regenerated

>Oh yeah, and "random" levels a la Shoot First / Nuclear Throne

>>165643108
yeah, it's a pain in the neck, literally.
But me and my professor have a blast developing shit for idiot students who cant handle git and automated testing on their own.

>>165643285
you sound like a retarded autistic douchebag who sucks up to professors and embarassing other students instead of teaching them like his job description tells him to do.
literally kill yourself i'm not even being ironic this time.

>>165643403
I don't care, I get paid to do this shit.

>>165643234
Looking pretty great anon, you've inspired me to simplify my dev graphics. What're you calling your game, so I can watch for it?

Whats /agdg/'s verdict on i-frames for dodging?

Is positional dodging better? Things like "classic" NES style games where you had to dodge projectiles by physically moving your character out of the way

Then i-frames are obvious. You simply get invinicibilty frames while dodging making it a lot more forgiving.

What does /agdg/ think? I'm thinking about having very brief, or no iframes.

I really have a distaste for games where you can simply stand still and dodge all attacks by rolling through them like Dark Souls.

>>165643469
i'd fucking rape you and kill you as wellas your shitty retarded asshole professor if i ever meet you and him in real life not kidding

>>165642821
>dyscalcula
more excuses, programming requires no math whatsoever for the 95% of it and when it does then you just type it down like 9/x and the computer calculates it for you

>>165643549
What's the matter anon, can't get good enough grades to impress your professor enough to hire you as an assistant?

>>165642981
That one girl is ugly as fuck yet everyone in that room wants her and masturbated to thinking about fucking her many times
I bet she just goes there for the easy mode because nobody even looks at her in the real world

>>165643486
Thanks. No name yet, just started the project yesterday. If I get enough progress, I'll post it on my tumblr and link it here

>>165643539
I like i-frames on attacks instead

>>165643539
Positional dodging is best, usually, though a lot of capcom games like Dead Rising and Lost Planet only grant i-frames during the beginning of the roll, so it can either be used to dodge attacks with good timing or to just get your ass out of the way

>>165643680
>there's a girl in there
Holy fuck, you might be right.

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>>165643808
I'm am about to thwo uo du to being drank, I can dev justn fi at abort 0.2 nut anout 0.4 os a nat matsj.

>>165643746
You mean you're given i-frames while attacking?

Is that so if you go for trades with enemies you get some forgiveness and an advantage for initiative? I can get behind that idea.

>>165643903
>0.4 bac
You might wanna consider calling an ambulance.

>>165643913
Mobiles do not respect our freedoms

>>165643637
I hope you fucking DIE bitch

>>165643903
>LOL i am drunk as fuck look at me how hardcore i am LOL being drunk is so cool XDDDD
i thought 4chan was 18+ yo board

>>165644085
fuck of m8, pelple ver 18 can be drank jst asumuch as peioke unfer 18,

>>165644151
eben i its |1 a,m ad i hate toweake ip tomorrow to wortk n my bcs.

It's kinda sad, I'm seeiinf 3ple and I could program any of you sjariaa fuck out of tour towles.

>>165644151
>>165644308
Friendly warning:
http://www.4chan.org/rules#global3
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: (...)indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?")

>>165644424
>>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: (...)indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?")
Ok, sorry mods, I'm just a se,mi functional drunk.

>>165644418
>2017
>pretending to be drunk on an anonymous image board
not sure if this is more cringey or pathetic

>>165644552
you lrgy pt tje optopm ff neig frank,

>>165644586
either delete your post or enjoy the "We expect quality" ban

>>165644623
>el peploe cant be drank on te weekend posr
good 1 m80

fuck offm google fprivacu policice

>>165644623
posting of topic is against the rules m80

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>delete non-deformer history
>entire mesh fucks up

>>165644804
learn to liear alhebar

>>165644623

>implying quality control bans are a thing

>>165644847
The should be.

>>165644910
then this would turn into reddit
i mean i agree that autistic losers who think its funny to pretend they are drunk and spam shit here should be banned, but offtopic discussion is fine with me, i like to take a break from progress posting sometimes and talk about what a slut vine is for a while , it's good for morale to have fun

>>165645050
>>165644847
http://www.4chan.org/bans

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I love it when a plan barely comes together

>>165645242
>Bullet hell

Anon, Im so sorry

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>>165633897
What's wrong with that lizzer?

How do you do a good pathfinding for game maker?

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>>165645310
i-it's just a side project until I feel like working on my main project some more...

>>165641393
what if you game had an analogue to the bandaids in super meat boy

>>165645357
>new ip
so close

>>165645438
Because I'm trying to find a way to do pathfinding since yesterday but I don't understand anything...
I don't have the brain for that.

>>165645527
what kind of game are you making?

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Finally got dynamic costs for activity preference, and "Professions" set up. Basically professions just give them a list of what's acceptable.

I also have tile system done, basically a giant mesh and I use math to figure out what tile belongs where and have a tile data structure/path finding, but i's useless now as you can't place anything so I have it disabled.

Next I'll focus on collection something and storing it in stock piles

and yeah I'm using kenney art, it will work well with what I want to do for now

>>165645527
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A*_search_algorithm

>>165645582
likes like shit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>165645572
A point and click.
When I click the character come next to where I clicked in term of X-axis, but I can't find a way to make her take ladders automatically to go up or down...

>>165645242
Doesn't the shield make the patterns a little easy?

>>165645679
thx shit poster, and yeah I'm not a fan of the art myself, but it's the only sprite pack that has what I need, as well the webm is 16 fps because I thought it'd be larger.

The main focus is that the AI structure (goap) is done so I'm moving forward now

>>165645680
I was going to suggest A*, but that's probably overkill if it's not very complex
You could add nodes for the ladder start/end points which act as links between different floors, and have the player know what floor they're currently on. So if you click on floor 2 and the player is on floor 1, it moves towards the nearest node that will take them to floor 2

Alternatively you could just make the player have to click the ladder to use it

>>165645325
Trying to climb water he thought was a branch

>>165645685
For now. Once I refine the shield hitbox it shouldn't be as blatant. Then I'll be able to implement grazing mechanics and enemy shielding. So I can write ai that shields itself, forcing the player to change shields, and I can also intensify the ai's bullet emitters for certain colors based on which shield is active. I can also implement homing missiles, as well as a third bullet color that cannot be shielded.

I'm trying to decide what to do with the collected bullets from each shield. I'm waffling between "you have no ammo, grazing bullets raises the ammo of both colors, collecting bullets with your shield fills your ammo with that color" and "Hit 100 collected with shield, unleash a super attack with it; grazing fills up a damage multiplier bar and you're normally very weak, forced to graze to make dents."

>>165645848
That's pretty smart!
Maybe I was trying to find something too complex...

Thanks!

I need ideas for a game that's easy to make and will make some money
Being a neet is eating me up inside

>>165645908
np
show us some screenshots of your game

>>165645947
Find a fun mario minigame like penguin push and make a whole game around it, it's what gogem is doing

>>165645679
Wait is this really the shitposter, should I add
>¯\_(ツ)_/¯
to my filters?

>>165645908
>Maybe I was trying to find something too complex
That shit happens a lot, always have in mind that the simplest approach is the best approach most of the time. Rubber duck method is based on that premise.

>>165646041
Any emoticon should be on your filters anyway.

>>165645980
>making money money
>indie multiplayer games
pick 1

I get a warning for talking about agdg while posts like this >>165646575 are perfectly fine. Nice moderation.

>>165646736
http://www.4chan.org/rules#global8

Guys how do I make a basic, traditional turn-based RPG battle system like in Mother 1 in Game Maker Studio?

Pls help a newfag out.

>>165646872
turn base rpg is easiest type of game to program
go learn the basics of programming first

id advise unity engine
and use codecademy to learn javascript

>>165647047
>unity for an absolute beginner who wants to make 2d games
GMS is better for both beginners and 2d, and there's bound to be hundreds of rpg tutorials

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Finally started yesterday, it's pretty fun
I'm coding the "engine" in C# , trying to do something generic and in-deep
UI is in WPF tough (I know it from work, it's not really adapted but ok to see what's going on)
Should I give Unity 2d a go? Ultimately I want to put that on android

>>165646872
While I agree with >>165647160 for gamemaker, if you just want to make a traditional RPG just use rpgmaker, assuming that you're not baiting.

>>165646872
take an array, sort by agility, iterate over that array expecting the player to input a command per iteration, now take that array with the player inputs and pass it to a battle animator class which actually executes all the player inputs in the game in order and does all the math the appropriate math
then let an ai do the same thing for the enemy characters
repeat until one sides achieves a victory state

>>165647326
i'm really sorry, i should really proofread but it's 4chan

>>165647160
game maker uses it own language, were as there are far more resources for javascript / c#

way more community/tutorials/documentation for unity

>solo coding a 3d game
>using a game engine
Kek. Enjoy your no,game no sales waste of time.

>>165647310
I first tried RPG Maker but I didn't really see how could I pull off the things I wanted to do in my game, like a rhythmic battle system a la Mother 3.
Then i switched to GMS cos seeing Undertale kinda inspired me, figured it would be more accesible for me to make my game.

>>165647326
Sorry I'm retarded I dunno what half of this means.

And no im not baiting.

>>165645947
emotional walking sim

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>>165647456

Do you know what a state machine is

>>165647615
[sweats audibly] y-yea h-haha what kinda DUMB RETARD do u take me for haha

I do not.

>>165647298
it is difficult for me to recommend using unity for 2d despite being one of the few idiots who do

i guess if you really want to use c# and make a 2d game for android it is probably your fastest bet though

>>165647654
Go and take a basic programming tutorial then
https://www.codecademy.com/
javascript for unity

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>>165647654

Okay so the easiest way to accomplish what you want is a simple state machine

Figure out how state machines work

>>165647409
I think you're underestimating the gms community here
Gamemaker's been going for decades and was built from the ground up for beginners. Pretty much every question you can have about gms or its custom script has hundreds of forum posts, not to mention the extensive documentation. There's a lot of tutorials for general c# (who even uses js for unity), but comparing c# for unity and gms script they'd be pretty close.
I'm sounding like a real shill here but gms really is the best option for beginners, especially when they want to do 2d

>>165647456
boy you really need to start in the shallow end
do some pong, tetris, snake, etc tutorials first, then work up from there
it's going to be a while before you can make your dream game
both unity and gms are fine, although you'll have an easier time starting in gms

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>>165647719
>>165647745
>>165647795
Oh geez, thank you guys for setting me in the right direction.

>>165647456
you, the game, have a list of all of the player characters. since you need to figure out which of the player characters goes first, you look at your characters agility stat and then rearrange your list such that the fastest character is at the top and the slowest at the bottom. then you go over your list, one by one, from top to bottom, each time asking the player "hey player, what do you want to do when this characters turn comes up?" the player then communicates his intent using various ingame menus and you, the game, note the players intent in that list of all of the player characters right next to the appropriate character. after you've taken note of the players intent for every eligible player character, you take that list, and pass it on to your buddy, the battle animator. your buddy then goes over that list once more, reading something like "character A casts fireball at target z". the battle animator then goes like "well ok, character As intelligence stat is x and fireball is at level y and the targets magical defense is w so that means his fireball will cause q damage". just use rpgmaker i'm sure they have this built-in

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>there are people in this thread right now that are NOT devving

>>165647835
just remember to post your progress here

>>165647885
I'm deving not games though

>>165647895
I hope that one day I'll be able to share at least a demo here.

>>165647885
i always feel like shit after demo days and get nothing done

>>165647861
Oh I get it now, thank you for your kind answer.

>>165647932
I can only hope some of you guys like EarthBound.

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>>165645965
Actually I have that shitty webm from last week, but a lot changed during this time.
It went from "ho! I found that in my archive" to "let's make something with that" and now I'm trying to make graphism

>>165646080
I don't know about rubber duck method

>>165647885
I'm lost on what to dev

>>165647885
I'm developing a cyst

>>165648147
why not snap your finger, like a pimp

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working on a new boss
it'll be the secret boss hidden after the first boss of the secret dungeon. You can only fight the boss if you find a bunch of hidden statues, and you can only access the dungeon if you find a hidden key for it

>>165648147
rubber duck method is explaining what you're about to do to a rubber duck, which helps you find any issues in your plan due to the way you process information you're about to talk about

>>165648231
>"ayo b com'ere"

>>165648260
Well that's fucking horrifying.

I hope you plan on making those jaws snap shut at the protag

you have 30 seconds

>>165648317
I'm planning on making damage from the jaws lower your permanent health
It is meant to be a quadruple secret, super challenging boss, after all

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>>165648382
>permanent HP reduction

God almighty give the player a means to restore it in some way afterwards, and you better get something good outta this

>>165648260
isnt this boss from alttp?

>>165648382
>lower your permanent health
I have a boner now.

>>165648481
Keeps is a fucking cunt

Me and a friend have finally gotten some free time and are interested in making an mobile app game on the phone for android and possibly iOS.

It involves walking around etrian odyssey like first person dungeons and using cards to counter and use spells against enemies you encounter and traps. The idea is like a roguelike every 5 levels you get a boss, and you keep progress in that you obtain cards to make you stronger (If we can figure out multiplayer features trading/selling may be possible).

We were planning to use Unity, but I was wondering if anyone who hears the gist of this idea might have an idea for a better engine? I have no problem with Unity, but very little experience in it. There will probably be alot of 3D effects and environments, aswell as the cards will be treated as 3D objects so Unity seems like the best deal. I know this sounds a bit ambitious but we need some longer term project to work on or a good while.

>>165648542
Probably something similar. They've done every variation of every theme now in the 2d zeldas, there's been so many
I can't think of any that specifically act this way, though

>>165648619
For a mobile game Unity might be too bulky, it's only an additional 10-20 megs but that's insane for mobile.

I want to procedurally generate psychedelic glitch art backgrounds. I don't know how to use shaders. Can I do a reasonable job without using shaders? Where should I start?

>>165648708

P&D kind of has a similar setup (it's not freeroam but the way the cameraworks etc) and it seems to run well for Unity, although I agree. I'm not entirely sure what our alternatives would be at the moment though.

>>165648708
these days you can sell a game that is 10 gigs on mobile and people still play it

>>165648725
eat some mushrooms for inspiration

>going to sleep makes you miss 1 1/2 threads

Big thanks to the feedback guys, especially the video people.

>>165648921
Yeah you might be right, but I imagined it as a 3D game, so it might be 50-70 total when completely done but you're right that isn't a lot any more

>>165648580
Do what now?

>>165648935
I'm a nerd. I've never done drugs and I'm not going to start now haha. More like.. how do you even approach procedurally generating art? Where do you start?

Help me ideas

Help me motivation

>>165648725
Use Processing/Cinder/OpenFrameworks/Nodebox

Unless you are talking about real-time in-game generation in which case you need to use shaders. If you want to generate backgrounds in-game but not real-time, you can still use one of the above frameworks since they are open-source, and you can do it on the CPU rather than on the GPU

>>165649308
>Ideas
http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1021472/Practical
>Motivation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE

>>165649159
if you're a nerd you'd actually love the experience you'd get from mushrooms. it's not crack, your life won't be ruined because once, you ate some mushrooms and hang out with aztecs on mars. it's just really interesting to see what your brain is actually capable of doing.

anyways, i'd start with learning how fractals work i guess

https://www.google.com/search?q=fractals&safe=off&biw=2560&bih=1310&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjb47nMlsTRAhVEChoKHZZCAEAQ_AUIBigB

>>165649520
also googles deepdream https://www.google.com/search?q=fractals&safe=off&biw=2560&bih=1310&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjb47nMlsTRAhVEChoKHZZCAEAQ_AUIBigB#safe=off&tbm=isch&q=google+deep+dream

>still no free good art around

>>165634437
I'm sometimes really self-conscious about having used nothing but Game Maker since 2012 when I gave up on Mario modding, and only being half-competent with it.
But it's a relief to know there are people who've been at it from the year I was born. I guess I need to put things in perspective and stop worrying.

>>165645242
>Mouse aiming in a bullet hell
Please, no.

Your main project looks neat though. Where do the sprites come from? They seem familiar.

>>165649608
Make your own. Doesn't get more free than that.

>>165648260
That method looks like stupid, but I'll try

>>165648231
Because I'm a shit at animating

>>>/wsg/1494711

Got some sounds done for the current attack I'm working on, also showing off your increased rate of fire for subweapons when unarmed

>Comfy Jam is coming
>no ideas
Help?

>>165649646
And meanwhile you don't go around telling artists to make their own engine.

Hypocrite.

>>165642307
>have some sort of ptsd or whatever the kids these days take adderall for
kek

>>165647409
>way more community/tutorials/documentation for unity
You are new to the internet right?

How to shill my game?

>>165649714
what are you able to do?

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I made a simple weapon system

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>>165649614
There used to be A LOT of jokes and a stigma about all GameMaker games being shit made by 10 year olds. It's matured a lot since Studio, and became a major force in game dev.

A few years ago I felt that way and bounced around 20 different things trying to find something else.

GameMaker is very powerful if you know how to use it. I'm even still learning new things all the time, both about GameMaker, and general programming.

>>165649967
3D but not very well

>>165649714
juice cart

you're selling freshly made juice in a park on a cool summer day. the twist? this is video game juice.

>>165650081
did you make that pic

>>165634037
Cute game.

>>165649614
agdg's most successful games use gamemaker

>>165649726
I do

>>165637157
It's a cross-platform re-implementation of XNA. It's really good and fast for 2D, you're better off using Unity for 3D though.

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>>165650138
you play as a todai student whose little sister is visiting the apartment and resting under your kotatsu
you have to keep her well stocked on mikan, tea, and jump
also keep the temperature comfy
if you fail to keep your sister happy she goes back home to your parents house

>>165650331
But what about buy her GEIMU?

>>165636969
I like the colors

>>165650304
>implying WoH won't eclipse them all
That Polish guy is our savior you'll see yet

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>>165650224
>>165650231

Thanks, very simple too.
Just takes a little bit to gen.
Wish there was threading in GM.

Here.
http://pastebin.com/MdYxvybK

>got an idea for comfy jam
>it would need a lot of assets

>>165650331

>if you fail to keep your sister happy she goes back home to your parents house

I'm not seeing a downside to failing

>>165650423
isn't woh gamemaker too though

>>165650472
Post it, I can make assets maybe

>>165650472
Get another idea on how to reduce the number of required assets

>>165650423
woh? I can't keep up with all these acronyms

>>165650231
Meant to say thanks to you in
>>165650434

>>165650472
then start already
agdg jams are to encourage creativity and finishing projects, they're not a contest

>>165634437
>>165634681
I fucked around with Clickteam/Multimedia Fusion for years in my youth, making shitty (fan)games with sprites stolen from every spriter website I could find. Only reason I ever stopped using it is because of how much shit people talked about it, somehow I fell for it and internalized that it must be a terrible tool even though it worked just fine for me and the things I was making.

It's too late to go back now, even though it looks like they improved a lot since I last used it from what I've seen.

>>165650558
Kyoufu no Sekai I believe

>>165639332
Your environments are pretty comfy Bokudev.

>think of an idea for comfy jam
>along with the comfy comes a story that gets sad over time
>can't bear to dev something that causes sadness

h-help

>>165650656
ah, world of horror
that's going to be a big one when it comes out

>>165640183
>>165640893
C++ is the greatest trap in programming. The one use case I can think for it is Systems programming and even then you're still probably better off using good old C.

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>>165647835
javascript is the wrong direction

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>>165650806
Dev in reverse

>>165650913
Much like the truth in general, it carries a lot of mental/emotional baggage to be able to wield it.

For gamedev, it's excessive to be redpilled on such matters.

>>165650478
no more hot sibling secks

>>165651067
woah senpai this is not lewd jam

How do make a comfy game?
Comfy is like calm, relaxing and cozy. So how do you make a game, with a win/lose condition, into something comfy?

>>165641051
>>165641189
Mayhem League dev gave up the other day bros. He's working on a Banjo Kazooie styled game with some ML elements now.

Shut the fuck up with the comfy jams no one cares faggots

>>165651576
t. mad nodev

>>165651293
Each day you manage to keep her you get to cuddle her when going to sleep and she's still on your bed sleeping when you wake up before you make her breakfast

I liked Monolith better when I thought it was top down.

>>165651664
Why?

>>165651664
i liked monolith better when the protagonist was a cute girl throwing habanero peppers

Artist looking for a programmer.

>>165643903
ME stands for Mistake Edition

>>165651721
i like it better when you still weren't born yet

>>165651749
i'm a programmer
tell me what modeling program you use

>>165651782
That's what your mother said to you every day of your life.

>>165651818
Wow coincidentally your mother said the same when I was banging her.

>>165651809
Blender, macromedia, spriter, and gimp. I also rip assets from jrpgmaker games from dlsite.

>>165651861
So whileyou were fucking my mother, she said that she liked it better when you still weren't born? Ouch, anon.You must suck at sex.

>>165651919
I'm a different guy
Do you have any game ideas or art examples?

>>165651919
oh, nevermind

>>165651939
No she said the same but it's about you instead and not me.

>>165647298
Look up Monogame, it exports to Android and is better suited for games than WPF. It's based on XNA, which was another .NET library by Microsoft made for game development that unfortunately met an early demise, however it lives on as Monogame.

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>>165652001
Sure anon, sure.

>>165651298
If you really need a win/lose condition, you could follow this tried-and-true formula:
>Player starts the game looking for something
>Outside world is scary and harmful
>Player has to build or manage shelter
>Reward player with stretches of calm inside shelter
>Player upgrades shelter until they don't need to worry about defending it
>Player upgrades self to venture outside
>Game becomes about exploring the outside world and returning home when it gets too scary
>Player wins when they find what they were looking for

>>165651664
Wait, it isn't top-down?

>>165639332
Comfy nintendo tier.
>>165639567
>Tumblr sprites
Daily reminder no one bothers with those games
>>165645369
This pleases me

>>165651948
I'm mobile right now, was hoping to join in on another project that started already.

>>165652041
>dumb anime poster

>>165650513
I'd basically need an rpg-looking medieval Inn, think about something like Chrono Trigger's one, since is the comfiest I can think of at the moment. Plus characters that fit there

If I look for rpg maker tilesets I probably could find something like that, right?

>>165650532
Guess I could go the NES Final Fantasy way and just have a black background with a couple of props and very simple characters. Don't know if I could give a comfy feel with that though

>>165652132
Post something when you can

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what comfy projects are you guys going to work on for comfy jam?

>>165652538
none because nodev and have to figure out how the engine works first

>>165652538
I like the airship idea but the scope I'm thinking of is too large so I don't know if I will do it

>>165652336
Do you actually have a project, memes aside I really do 2d art, I wouldn't mind doing some art assets.

>>165633060
Hell yea, Comfy is UP. I've got my idea ready, I'm excited to start! I already started a little bit

>>165652538
You're really getting fucking annoying with that stupid question.

>>165652132
How far along are we talking about here?

>>165652680
I'm not looking for an artist but you'll attract more attention if you post a sample of your work.

Hey guys, play TiledBattle and tell me what you think.
It's still simple but I think it has lots of potential.

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I could make it a miniboss but I'm not sure.

>>165652883
first introduce it as one
later it becomes a regular enemy

>>165652782
But this is a christian image board anon.
>>165652750
Not something from scratch, not something too big either as I'd like to commit to it, but not for a medium/ long time. Perfer to do something for comfy jam.

>>165652954
really like that trope, but make sure that the boss version is bigger and has some extra abilities

>>165652538
I don't fucking know, I have lots of ideas but I can't decide which ones are doable/actually comfy and which aren't-