/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

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POST NEW FUNNY WEBMS!

>>165402697
can you post your build pls? I want to make a mage character

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>>165402697

>Almost half way through January
>Still no 2nd DLC announcement
FROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>165402908
The longer the wait the more time for polishing. jk it's going to be fucking garbage

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>>165402808
Sure thing, friend.

>>165402808
It's entirely up to your preference for the most part.

60 int is a must
Use base stats for whatever weapon you want, but remember to use a weapon that goes with your magic build
Sage ring +2
Young / Bellowing dragon rings (get both of them)
4th ring is wild

Spells (what I'm using)
Farron Dart
Soul Greatsword
Homing Soulmass
Crystal Soul Arrow

All of your attributes depend on how you want your mage build to be. I've opted for a warlock that using both physical (hyesel pick) and magic (soul greatsword) as the bread and butter. If you want more long range, take out some vig and put it into ATN to get some more long range spells.

>>165403110
>someone saved it
kek

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post yfw a silver knight drops a concord

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>>165403110
>hacked stats
>not going full 99

>>165403110
>in this moment I am euphoric

>>165403217
You'd get banned for that. Stripping 8 out of fth and 6 out of luck and putting the removed into another attribute won't get you banned though. It just has to add up properly

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>>165403156

>>165403220
Religion does nothing more than hold society back! My intelligence keeps be above the drivel of the theisms of the modern world

>>165403152
Flashsword also works well with heysel's because you can mess the different timings, making it harder to parry.

>>165396146
I died to fucking Magus and Congregation on my first playthrough.
I had no estus, no lifegems, and for some reason expected it to be one of those fog walls you just pass through instead of a fight. And I know "fight" isn't even the right word for those guys.
I'll never understand how I actually managed to die, regardless of healing items.

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Anyone on PS4 feel like helping me with Yhorm?
Doing this with 9 Vit is giving me aids.

>>165402841
Every time a webm ends before killing the other player, I assume the person who made the Webm died from doing something immediately done right afterward.

I did it guys, I beat Dank Souls!

Bubbles is going to run DaS3 at AGDQ
How hard will he choke?

>>165403624
>I died to fucking Magus and Congregation on my first playthrough.

Same. The boss is really easy but the first time I went through it I couldn't find the second bonfire so I had to slog through the entire level, including those fucking spiders and has no estus or lifegems left by the time I reached them.

>>165404087
This nigger has no valid timed runs. Claims he's part of souls speedrunning community and yet most people either don't know who he is or straight up hate him because he's retarded. Watch him crash and burn.

>>165404829
>Dies to Gundyr
>Misses firebomb
>Dies to Anri, goes for backup weapon
>Perpetual Pontiff Partial Parries

It's going to be great

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>>165402841
>filename

>>165404829
Oh yeah, just remembered something now. I read somewhere reddit I think some wild claims from Bubbles himself. He claimed to know the routes for DS games because he was one of the people initialy routing them. Which is cool and all if that wasn't a fat fucking lie, because he took no part in routing anything.

What's the dark souls 1 mod that gives a little node meter at the top left showing you how many people you can connect to? I thought it was DSFIX but it doesn't seem to be popping up.

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>>165403110
>"mage"
>40 fucking vigor

>>165402808
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/134772
At least play as a proper caster and not just a guy who casts spells.

>>165405320
pvp watchdog

Is spawning extra Estus and Undead Bone Shards detectable by the "anticheat"? I don't want to go through all the areas to get them for my build.

>>165404985
He will probably try to get some retards with zero knowledge of souls, just so he can correct them to make himself look smarter.

>>165405363
>mages have to be glass cannons
>gives a build that is SL 99
>literally can take the missing 20 levels, put 10 in vig and 10 in end and it's basically the same

>>mages have to be glass cannons

>>165405445
yes

>>165405486
On the couch*

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>>165403948
Sorry I killed you then.

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I hate the available hair and beard choices in DaS2. Is it really too much to ask for a character creator that doesn't look different once you finalize things?

>>165405363
>play as a caster not someone who casts spells
>literally the same spells and rings

>dual rapiers

holy kek you're retarded.

Base Game NG Difficulty (relative to rest of franchise)
Demon's- 2
Dark Souls 1- 4
Dark Souls 2- 6
Bloodborne- 4
Dark Souls 3- 9

>>165405570
>mages shouldn't be fragile, but should have spells that can deal 1200+ in a single combo
>mages should be able to spam Deep Soul, flashswords and still roll away whenever they want
>mages should be nearly identical to a physical build with the only difference being a big blue bar and more ranged options while being just as strong in close combat

>>165406191
That's way too high for DaS3. I'd agree that it has a largest assortment of difficult bosses in the series, but the areas are on the easier side compared to others, or at least that's how it seemed to me.

>>165405810
Don't play ds3. It's even worse there.

>>165406232
>entire build focused on magic
>has bare minimum physical damage stats to use weapon that can hit and use spells
>because it uses a physical weapon instead of (((ONLY))) magic it's nearly identical to a physical build
wew lad
>1200+ damage in a single combo
I want to see that. What spell does that?

>>165405957
I only have dual rapiers for brawls/3v3s where you can run out of fp if you don't flawlessly time your one bottle of ashen estus. 1v1s end before you even use half your fp anyway.

>>165406462
The ability to edit your appearance later on makes up for it though

When should one go to Ariendel first playthrough? Any items ot skills you should have first?

>>165406472
2 swings from flashsword for 200-250 damage each into a 500-600 damage soul greatsword catches so many people because soul greatsword has retardedly deceiving range. At 25 END + FaP+1 you even have enough stamina to spam 200-250 damage Great Deep Souls to keep up the pressure.

>>165406191
Difficulty would have to be dependent on whether or not its your first time playing a souls game.

DS2 is harder if all you played was DS1 than if you start with DS2.

DS3 is harder if you haven't played other souls games before.

>>165406826
>wrong webm
welp

>>165406591
It shares the same 5 limit counter with respecs. You can change the look of your dude 5 times and you won't be able to respec in that ng. Also your character will never look right due to shitty lightings and washed out colors.

>>165406771
Soul level intended for DLC by FROM is ~70.

>>165405402
>pvp watch
Alright I downloaded it now it's showing two node counts one small and one big and they're right on top of each other .

Alright /dsg/ I feel that the dark souls series has ruined other games for me, I've played them all through 2 or 3 times. Any suggestions you think I'd enjoy (on PS). Other games seem so meh now. Just took Dishonored 2 back for a discount.

>>165407438
Wait for Nioh, maybe Nier Automata if you like Bayonetta/MGR combat.

DeS > DS > BB > DS3 > DS2
debate me

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>tfw finally at the Unnamed King
Is he really that tough, or is his difficulty just overhyped by how many people say he's the hardest boss in the series

Any tips?

>>165407641
Not him but BB, DaS 3 and Nioh felt too fat for me

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>had phantom
>phantom died
>started running away constantly
>pulls out cursed_sword.exe.ffmpg.html
>STILL DIES

Wow. Went to check his profile and he immediately quit the game. His profile is just hilarious if you press more info. Believe me you do.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/BannedForNoReason/

>>165407736
Yeah, summon some help lol.

>>165407851
Repost your other webm

>>165407706
you're allowed to like whatever you want faggot

Is there anyway to change your name in DS3? I heard using a CE works but I'd rather not get banned over a simple name change.

My name is so stupid no one will summon me ;_;

>>165407736
Fuck his dragon's head up with lightning, fuck him up with fire once the dragon's dead

>>165407921
>>165402697

>>165407857
i feel like summoning someone for this fight would just be cheap

if he is trully the toughest souls boss, i want to experience him full frontal

>>165407706
On what basis are you ranking them?
What matters the most to you?

I have not played Dark Souls 3 since lunch. I pirated it so it was solo play but I loved it. I'm thinking I might pick it up soon or at least by the next sale on Steam. What is the status on the DLC? It's been a year now hasn't it? And there's only one thing available. Makes me wonder if the season pass will be worth it or not.

>>165407851
>Giant Dad
The epitome of faggotry, I don't even need to read his profile.

>>165407736
He will 2 shot most characters and punishes healing hard.

His patterns are relatively easy to dodge, he's just annoying because you have to kill his dog shit easy form before hand to get a chance at his second form, which will fuck you up as long as you don't know the moveset, which takes time to learn.

>>165407959
>dat casual homophobia

>>165408042
The one you deleted.

is 40 luck worth having for the morion blade?

>>165408196
It's the exact same one as that one. Literally. Only difference is that it was roughly 3 seconds forward and 5 seconds shorter. I accidentally dragged that mp4 into my webm maker again instead of the new one.

>>165408061
enjoyment.

>>165408095
There's one more guaranteed DLC coming out, though god knows when since there's no set date for it outside of early 2017.

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I can't wait for this game to die.

>>165408149
Ugh, why is /dsg/ so unwelcoming to gays?

>>165408212
If by "40 luck" you mean 30 with a hollow weapon, no not really. Base damage is utter shit, relies on the RTSR effect to even matter and is still shittier than kirk's sword, which can actually be buffed.

>>165408095
>since lunch
Congrats you've made it 3 hours

>>165408439
>he doesn't exclusively invade gays to make them feel unwelcome in lothric

???

>>165408325
>only one chance for them to bring back the bone fist
ahhhhh

>>165408325
And that'll be the last DS content ever.
Just stew on that a while.

>>165408325
So season pass doesn't matter much then it seems. I doubt the next one will be more than $15 or $20.

>>165408012

Just CE. You won't get banned. That's a meme.

>>165408473
*Launch

>>165408012
Go offline, use CE.

GO OFFLINE TO DO IT OR YOU WILL GET BANNED

>>165408624
The speed of that weapon as it was in 2 would probably be really frustrating in 3. Actually, fist weapons in 3 are frustrating in general.
>>165408635
I don't think too many people would complain if they let the series end here. I feel like a lot of players are either jaded or burnt-out as it is.

>>165408896

Is it true you can do certain shit online? I feel like certain scripts won't do anything like noclipping.

>>165409046
You can do basically anything that does not directly affect your save file such as
Your level
Your attributes
Your souls (don't even touch this offline, it's a super instant ban)
Your name
Impossible items

Everything else is fair game

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>>165407438
Nioh

>>165407851
>speedhacks
>brags

>>165409545
I really want to know if you're retarded or something. What and where exactly do you think speed hacking is happening

Seeing the amount of people advocating for the use of CE makes me wonder just how many of you are actually underage.

>>165409379
>so hard
>some Dark Souls fans
>hard
>Dark Souls
I will never stop hating this association.

>>165409749
I blame bamco. Nioh is really tough but fair though. Beating the bosses in it gave that same feeling of satisfaction that I got from DaS1.

>>165409213
>Your souls

Odd since you can item swap a bunch of Champion Souls and use those. Wonder how it checks them.

>>165410142
I meant it as directly editing your soul count. You can do that though.

>>165409708

It's cringe, honestly. Instead of adapting to a shit game or just giving up like a mature person, they have to cheat.

>>165409379
Nioh is shit. If they haven't changed anything combat-wise from the beta, they really need to.
Fighting groups is literally impossible, since both guarding and taking a hit take off enormous chunks of your stamina, not to mention running out of stamina puts you into a state that might as well just outright kill you.
So you end up either trying to pull one guy at a time with some ranged weapon, or you get the group and spend 90% of the "fight" hitting a guy once, running away to separate from the guys catching up, and repeating until they're all dead.
It's a really fuckin' stupid stamina system that fucks with the whole game.

Nioh has no PvP at all, right?

I used the Stockpile Thomas glitch in DeS to overpower myself and my weapons and thus completely ruined my gaming experience lads AMA

>>165411128
It had pseudo-PvP in the beta. Basically, Nioh's equivalent of bloodstains let you summon the player's character controlled by an AI to fight, and they had a chance to drop a piece of the gear they were wearing, I believe.

>>165411247
Hello DSP.

>>165411301

DSP didn't glitch, the times didn't match up. Also, be sure to watch his redemption run.

snoooort

>>165409708
>>165410792
CE is like anything, most people use it responsibly to get pvp characters up and circumvent grinding, but you always have the one asshole who does it to get the edge in pvp or something.

I don't really use it because I am paranoid about getting b&, but I don't see what the big deal about it is as long as people aren't an asshole about it.

>>165411247
Go into NG+ with PBWT in every world. Your SL won't matter, they will push your shit in

>>165411301
I have no idea who that is AMA

>>165410952
That entire paragraph just described every souls game besides Bloodborne, and even then it's still pretty close.
>not to mention running out of stamina puts you into a state that might as well just outright kill you
I'd rather have to actually pay attention to my stamina than have fucking dks 3's stamina system again. Stamina drain is also insanely fucking important for your enemies, too. If you see an enemy with low stamina, you get aggressive and hit his guard with high stance attacks, or use the kick skill from medium stance.
>It's a really fuckin' stupid stamina system that fucks with the whole game.
Ki regen was a thing for a reason. The fucking Ki regain mechanic was an amazing mechanic after playing the souls games for the past 5 years. A new player was terrified of running out of stamina while a skilled player who mastered ki regain timing might as well have been playing with 3 chloranthy rings equipped.

>>165407736
Fist phase is kinda just bullshit until you get a feel for it, after which it simply becomes unfun

Second mode is actually a good fight, but he starts using shittier attacks in the second half of his second mode. The real issue is that the first mode acts as a buffer preventing you from constantly practicing against the second mode, which causes him to take a while to beat for some players in conjunction with how punishing he is damage wise. Ultimately just don't panic roll, its no different from dancer, and you don't have to worry as much about positioning or strafing. He gives you fewer opportunities to attack than dancer does though, and he'll take any trade he can get.

>>165405363
>https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/134772
>"""""caster"""""
>uses weapons like some kind of qualityfag
>uses a 2.0-weight catalyst like a complete meathead
>no crystal chime
>no parting flame
>doesn't have 13 hp/s recovery so he can heal amidst his skillful passive play
>doesn't break people's spirit one dart at a time, only to heal on the pillar after taking damage
>doesn't have pyromancy just to show off while giving lore lessons to young pupils
>isn't an philosopher king, a master of all scholastic disciplines
>isn't https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/134786

Is there a recent Ds3 weapons tier list floating around anywhere?

>>165411457
tßh, I played NG through again and went PBWT to get the colorless demons and wreck the black phantoms. That was a rewarding playthough, but I really did ruin it for myself. Starting NG+ today.

>>165402548
I have just downloaded the dsfix and all that shit for dark souls 1 but I dont know what to best change my keys to. What are your setups?

>>165411530
>ki regen was a thing for a reason
That only mattered if you were on the attack constantly. Which you weren't against any group. You still had to do your 1-2 hits, book it, and come back, because if you ever got hit after attempting an attack, you were almost certainly out of stamina or close to it and thus couldn't block/dodge more than 1 more attack. Then, again, the "exhaustion" mode kicks in and you're dead.
Losing stamina on hit or exhaustion mode. One of them needs to go. It's shit otherwise. Or they need to drastically reduce the amount of stamina consumed when blocking, because as I recall, your whole bar drained in just 3 or so defends.

>>165411956
Just use a controller like any sane human being. Even with all the fixes available, mouse and keyboard is still going to suck shit in DS1.

>>165407438
Armored Core Verdict Day or Armored Core For Answer.

ACVD is basically dark souls except no leveling up, battle is in 3 dimensions and everyone has guns.

>>165411956
B - Block
S - Spell
F - Forward
L - Left
R - Right etc.
then you won't forget what they are. :)

>they patched being able to use WAs with 1 FP

FROMSOFT DESTROYER OF FUN

>>165412276
what about walking backwards?

>>165412057
Sorry but that sucks

>>165412328
shift B

>>165412154
>>165407438
ACVD is very, very mechanically similar, I mean. The progression and style are totally different though.

If you're into souls for the combat and the customization, it's similar.

>>165412483
Sorry but get used too it faggot or play another game

>running around Cathedral at level 23 with a +2 weapon
Well, everything is pretty fucking hard, but at least I don't have to worry about invasions.

>>165411575
How the hell do you even navigate between those 7 spells mid-combat?
>only one ranged spell which can't even stagger
>willingly playing at 120
>no deep soul for both applying pressure and baiting players into melee range
>only 33 vig at 120 where everybody has a 500+ AR weapon
>no AoE damage spells for fighting gank squads or team fights
>force for ???
>playing at 120
>a high FP cost healing spell when you already have both a regen spell and talisman L2 for regen
>fire surge which does the same as farron dart just with less range and a different damage type
>120
That fucking sage ring had better be +2

>>165412328
What are you a coward?

>>165412315
you get blue estus in arena anyway, the only thing it really killed was morne's hammer, which is a crappy meme weapon either way

PC guys who use keyboard and mouse, what are your keys? With DSfix?

>>165412716
fuck off use a controller

>>165410952
Literally, get good. You can pull one or small groups, and small groups are easy to fight. Stop turtling and stop spamming and stamina won't be an issue. Running out of stamina doesn't leave you vulnerable, trying to take an action after you are out does. You can also "active reload" your stamina, so if you are good then you are almost never out. running away to separate them involves running like 5 feet, tops.

>>165412052
>You still had to do your 1-2 hits, book it
You just suck, son.

>tfw no sack in DaS3 so can't make a proper Maneater Mildred cosplay
>Maneater Mildred will never sit on your face

>>165412582
Suck my dick bitch ill do what I want.

>>165412483
>not having a controller for your PC like any true PC master race

You do realize that there are a shitload of PC-exclusive games out there that play far better using a controller than with KB+M, right? Are you some poorfag who can't even afford to buy a second-hand DS3 or 360 controller?

>>165412874
whip it out mousefag, i'll suck you dry

Just learning parry/riposte on DeS NG+ now lads, it's quite fun. Is it the most forgiving game for parrying? The window seems large enough.

>>165412897
I dont care, I am not a faggot console cuck I only use KB+M.

>>165412052
Being on the attack was one of the most important things to do during group fights, and ki regain with the proper skill (as in power, not player's general skill) let you regain more stamina than you had even spent from the attack, while also letting you chain combos for better burst damage.

2 mid stance hits -> perfect ki regain into high stance for even more bonus stamina -> high stance light, light heavy killed most enemies then and there. If they didn't die from that you could ki regain + stance swap right back to mid stance for even more combos. If you could keep these combos going, your stamina should have never dropped below 90% unless you dodge, and dodging was more useful for just getting distance once your stamina was low enough anyway.

>Or they need to drastically reduce the amount of stamina consumed when blocking, because as I recall, your whole bar drained in just 3 or so defends.

Are we talking about the "alpha" or the beta demo? I remember the alpha was pretty slow paced and stamina loss was fucking nuts, and the beta fixed most of that.

>>165413212
It definitely feels like it has the widest window. Might just be the way so many enemy attacks are animated as well.

>>165413350
>missing the entire point of being PC master race
Have fun with the game then. When you get tired of repeatedly dying because of using an inferior control scheme, feel free to uninstall and never come here again.

Does using Velka's statue to remove hollowing break Yuria's questline? I've looked it up but it's still unclear.

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>decide to leave a sign at dragleic to help people out before i do it myself
>oh shit throne of want
>beat the boss, easy peasy
>[title of the game] pops up
>host dies right when we beat it

>>165412654
>33 vig
I heal a straightswords r1 from regen in like 20 seconds
>force for ???
for pillar heals, which fully replenish my healthbar
not to mention you can throw darts at people when you invade fightclubs, then pop force on the staircase exiting the club for funsies
>no AoE damage spells
the only good one is the lightning bolt which requires you to be willing to trade health, plus you need 45 faith
>deep soul
you have to pop it at least three times before it really layers up overtop of prior casts, then you get one shot with some other spell before all your deep souls are off the field
>That fucking sage ring had better be +2
yeah that's why I've got 10 dex instead of 9

>>165413942
no it's the same as a purging stone, only I think its more expensive

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>spend 20+ hours making DS2 build
>everyone I invade is a passive Engraved Gauntlets shitter on Panda Express wifi
I'll definitely be killing myself within the next 4 years.

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>>165414358
Why aren't you using engraved gauntlets + robflynn estoc?

>>165414358
>not using save backups and agape ring so you can make new builds in a few minutes instead of starting a new game from scratch

>>165414520
Is PS4 populated enough?

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>>165414520
waifufags leave

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>>165412597
>Mfw I invade cathedral at lvl 25 with +3 weapons

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Estus during invasion was a mistake

>>165414645
I haven't played recently so I don't know.

>>165414717
Waifuing triggering people that try to take that turd (read: DaS2) seriously is the best part though.

Where the FC at?

>>165414835
Cry more bitchnigga

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Literally none of you look as good as me

Post fashion

>>165415013
I remember when I asked you why you hated DaS2.

You literally could not come up with an answer other than "They lied to us in the beginning by having the beta" because they pulled a ton of support to BB.

>>165415254
>DaS3
>fashion
hahaha

>>165415292
I came u with lots of reason, and that is just one of them.

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>>165415254
does it matter which game we use?

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>>165415254

>>165415217
You are banned

>>165415448
No. You did not come up with ANY related to the actual gameplay.

I gave you soul memory as a free pass, and that was the only one anyone (not even you) talked about. You just complained about how DaS2 was bad and didn't look like it did in the trailer.

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>>165415482
No I just DEMAND fashion

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>>165415597
ok, I will post what i can find then

>>165415548
anyone have that elite knight puking estus image

i need it for this very slim abomination

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>>165415574
whatever you need to tell yourself, buddy

Sup niggers? I just beat DS1 earlier and I have DS2 on deck for PS4. In DS1 I went DEX over STR with some pyromancy. Want to mix it up and do something different in DS2. What's good and what should be avoided, build-wise?

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>>165415678
Excellent fashion anon

>>165415923
>why do you hate game? You said "x" and only "x" last time but everyone hates that reason
>"there are more but I won't tell you because I said them before
>no you didn't

wew lad. can you even think of 1

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>>165415254

What's this meme about Nameless Cuck being hard?

>>165414615
hol up

You can backup your .sl2 file in ds2? The game doesn't bun you if it detects that you've somehow loaded the same character with a lower SM value?

>>165416250
Nah, if it did then they would ban people after system restores.

>>165415941
Thanks, nice sir Yorgh

If you could have DeS remastered, what would you change?
Needs +1, +2 etc rings for NG+ and beyond imo

Or is it perfect?

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>>165415254

>>165416470
The last Arch Stone completed and swap the triggers for PB and PW WTs.

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>>165416470
+1 and +2 rings should never come back
like ever

>>165416470
As far as I'm concerned it's perfect.

Maybe *maybe* add a couple recovery frames to pushes so they can't pushlock.

But honestly I'd just want a direct port with no alteration.

DeS, Dragon's Dogma, and Front Mission 4 on PS4 fucking when?

>>165416645
>have to go to NG++ just for favor ring+2
hate

>>165416470

I just played and finished it for the first time this week, believe me, it is not perfect.

But adding new stuff in a remaster is tricky.
Some changes like those +1 rings might be cool, but nostalgic players might be upset if too much is changed up.

Personally, I'd want the game to not automatically send you into NG unless you choose an option in the Nexus to, maybe stick it onto some ornament on the wall.
Also allow the player to level up off of that ornament after the Maiden in Black is gone, for obvious reasons.

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>>165415254
Not my character, but I sunbro-ed for this guy one time.

>>165416625
>can't even name 1

>>165415885
I chose Very Slim because I was originally going to use the Cleric Armor, but even then it still made me look obese.

>>165416856
I just named 2. Is this a joke about naming more than 1?

>>165416625
Please return to reddit, namefag.

>>165416976
>can't name more than 1

sens invader or township dueler?

>>165417103
no it's
>can't even name 1

>>165416470
Make King Allant an actual badass boss, not a slug.

>>165415928
Can anyone give me a few pointers here?

>>165417014
>namefag
>not knowing lucy's been here forever

I dislike him too, but you're a fucking idiot

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>>165415254
Ayo where all da plunder at?

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>>165416814
chill dude
>>165416565
I dig it
>>165416093
kinda hard to see but cool
>>165416062
love dat cleric aesthetic

>>165416751
Is Dragon's Dogma good?

>>165417287
An old namefag is still a namefag. Old cancer is still cancer.

>>165415928
Pretty hard to find something that doesnt work in das2. I had a lot of fun with a leo build and battle mage characters.

The strength of das2 compared to 1 was the varied magics. I would suggest you explore those.

Post the ass-backwards, fucked-up order you played the series lads.

DS3 -> BB -> DS2 (SotFS) -> DS -> DeS

>>165417560
Dragon's Dogma's fucking incredible m8.

>>165417676
We already know not to reply to him and give attention, dumb newfag

>>165417272
Hexes are pretty strong and will get you through most of the game, except the DLCs. Same for Sorcery, the Major League Great Sword is pretty baller in this game. Only real problem is that Faith is shit for offensive until late game, and Pyro is resisted by quite a bit of stuff.

There isn't really anything to be avoided since just about any build is viable. Just make sure to level Adaptability for rolling i-frames, and keep in mind that every 10% or so of equip load you save under 70% has a positive effect on your roll distance.

PVP can be fun, but only for your second character onward when you know how to build a character from scratch. Soul Memory sucks fucking ass and you will most likely ruin your first character for PVP (everybody does, don't worry about it).

>>165417259
No, that would ruin the entire point.

>>165417726
DeS -> DaS -> DaS2 > BB -> DaS

Boy have I seen some shit.

>>165417737
Right I'm buying it.
I trust you.

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>>165417560
Yes.

It starts out slow, but at least get to Gran Soren. It picks up from there.

>>165417908
wew that chronological autism

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>>165415254
>faithful invade
>another one joins me shortly after
>'Ayy Lmao'
>What the fuck
>this abomination shows up
>both me and host are as confused as we were scared
>host flees in terror
>I jump off a cliff

>>165417957
Dragon's Dogma has the Lucy Seal of Approval. Just make sure to get Dark Arisen. It includes the base game, all of the DLC, and the expansion.

>>165418113
not everyone is a bandwagon chump like you boi, we played them as they where released because we enjoyed deamons

>>165416250
It's never banned people from copying their save file. The lower SM value doesn't matter because you have less game progress. You're supposed to back the save file up in case your original one gets corrupted. This is the Bandai-namco approved method of saving your game manually and you won't be banned.

You will be banned if you manually -edit- your SM though, or try to load another save file with modified items or SL/SM.

>>165418149
>one single one

>>165418621
DD has one expansion but several DLCs

>>165418303
>bandwagon chump
yeah I picked up ds3 because all the kids were talking about it at lunch time

Just picked up Dragon's Dogma for $15 lads.

>>165419102
I'd believe it.

>>165418303
>we enjoyed deamons
You spelled semen incorrectly.

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>>165419247
Fuck yeah dude. Dark Arisen version? PC I guess?

Hope you like it.

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>>165415254

>>165419258
Actually, if you must know, cunthair, I got DS3 because I got a ps4 and found that there's NO FUCKING GAMES and it was one of the handful that looked any good. I knew nothing about it except it was a Jap rpg.

>>165419715
Sure thing bitch.

>>165419709
that's cool
>>165419601
Dark Arisen yep, ps3 hard copy actually

>>165419792
I will fuck you in the ass till you love me faggot

>>165419860
>ps3 hard copy actually
Oh fuck yeah dude.
If you're cool with sharing your PSNID I'll rent your Pawn and give it some exp and stuff when you get the game. I've been looking for an excuse to play through it again.

>>165420018
You'll already love me from having my cock massaging your vocal cords.

>>165420065
I'm not sharing porn but thanks for the offer pal

>>165420090
I doubt it would reach peewee

>>165420389
My tip is gonna taste like your stomach lining fuccboi.

>>165420462
Do you often have these hyper-aggressive gay fantasies?

I know I'm going to be shit on for this, but how do you take pics in DS3 PC? Normal Print Screen-Paste doesn't work.

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Does this look okay?

>>165420585
As often I fuck your mom.

>>1654206
you either need to be in windowed mode or get a program that can take ingame screenshots., like fraps or shadowplay or w/e

I want a name for my new magician in Demon's Souls

Help please

>>165420631
F12

>>165420631
F12

>>165420667
You forgot the setting where you just plug in a fucking controller and use that instead.

>>165420970
Grandalf the Gay

>>165421110
Thanks Anon :)

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What are you guys using for mouse users?

Who else finds the abyss watcher's second phase much easier than the first? I mean, he's easy as fuck regardless but I'm just going black dress and partizan.

Why do people say DaS2 has terrible animations? The vast majority of them are a night and day difference in higher quality compared to DaS1. Even compared to DaS3 many of them seem to come out smoother and more natural.

I'm just now making my first DS2 character and I'm looking at a creation guide to see what's changed. Does literally every attribute except Adaptability give you HP in this one?

>>165422259
falconer walk

>>165421796
bump

>>165422259
player animations are fine imo
but plenty of enemy animations are atrocious

>get instantly invaded at the high wall at the start of ng+2
>see the message after i killed 4 of the hollows on the way out
>hide in chameleon as a barrel near the bonfire
>invader passes me twice, probably runs to the dancer and back twice, and black crystals out
Why is hide and seek so fun?

Is Cleric a good starting class in DS2?

>>165423642
>too pussy to fight anyone
>let's waste their time

Kill yourself faggot.

I want to create some sword wielding character that is able to cast miracles or hexes. Any suggestions on bulids?
>>165424094
Yeah, it's very good. You get access to miracles, which makes things easier.

>>165424094
Faith sucks offensively but starting with extra heals is very helpful, and it starts with the mace which will fuck at least half the game effortlessly. It's as good a choice as any, just don't expect much from lightning spears.

>>165424161
you must be bad at hide and seek.

>>165424318
Sunlight blade is pretty dank.

>>165424327
Hide and seek is how faggots play this game. Enjoy being a scared bitch.

>>165422259
I still wish Miyazaki hadn't decided to go back to the lazy DaS1 riposte and backstab animations. It felt visceral and satisfying to impale and lift the other guy up by your spear, or bring your sword down over their head and cleave their torso in half, or wind up your UGS and launch them sideways.

>>165422593
The amounts you get are minuscule compared to actually leveling Vigor. It's nothing like leveling Resistance in DaS1.

And to answer your question more thoroughly, there are diminishing returns. Once you start getting a stat past 20, it gives half the HP per level.

>>165424094
Healing Miracles are pretty useful when you have little to no Estus in the early game, though Lifegems more than make up for that later. Offensive Miracles are shit until much later, though you can sub-specialize in Pyromancy since that scales off of both Faith and Int.

If you can grab a Heide weapon or two early on, you'll have an easier time (especially after you infuse it and find Sunlight Blade), and the Flame Longsword also becomes somewhat more useful than if you're going a quality build.

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>>165424461
>mfw remembering ds2 weapon buff colors

Why do I feel like there's input delay on Xbone?

>>165424190
*In DS 3

>>165424781
Eh, the only one I couldn't personally stand was CMW, the rest were at least tolerable. Not that DaS2's graphics were much to scoff at to begin with, but it did make identifying other peoples' buffs much easier.

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Only took me 8 tries, and no phantoms. First phase was definitely harder than the second one.

I think his stand should have more HP.

>>165424473
If you are that concerned with fights that don't waste your time, consider the arena.

>>165425150
I'm that concerned with how scared someone is to even TRY to fight, not with the fights themselves.

>>165425246
Man, you are one whiny bitch.

>>165425246
I'm not afraid to fight, i just think its fun to mess with people.

>>165425340
Says the faggot too afraid to fight anyone. Fucking kek.

>>165425404
>i'm not afraid to fight
>as i hide from everyone

Hmmmm......

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>farming ears with 481 item find rate
>fucking nothing
>all of the sudden get summoned to fight two phantoms
P R A I S E
T H E
M O O N

>>165425457
>>165425560
If he really didn't want to fight people, he'd just pull the plug like everyone else.

>>165426086
I only need 4 more lads
I can taste it

>>165426108
No, you want to fuck around because you think its funny.

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>>165426246
heh funny, I only have 4
How common is it to be summoned to kill the Faithful?

>>165426446
its not that uncommon depending on the day, but if i recall the invasion thing is still bugged so its only if they have a red in the world world that you get to fight them, unless they fixed it.

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The DLC is gonna be good, right bros?

Right?

It's gonna be announced soon and it's gonna be great, right?

>>165426446
I've never seen a blue get summoned to kill just a Faithful. For a blue to get summoned into a world with a Faithful, I think there has to be a red as well.

So it's really uncommon,

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>>165426617
>>165426682
shit
also is it better to just kill the first two knights are to kill all three in terms of time and likelihood

>>165426795
It's better to kill just the first two

>>165426272
>watching a brainlet invader fail to see or check for chameleon isn't funny
t. guy that invaded anon

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level 135 isnt too high for general pvp duel shit right?

Gets Better as you Play More:
-Dark Souls 2
-Dark Souls 1
-Bloodborne

Gets Worse as you Play More:
-Demon's Souls
-Dark Souls 3

>thought Dark Souls 2 was the worst in the series
>contrarianism and years of shitting on it have convinced me it was the best

Wiki claims archdeacon great staff at say 60 faith outperforms court sorcerers staff at 60 int with offensive sorceries.

is this true, if so why arent more people using it?

>>165427086
120 is meta but up to 150 you shouldn't have problems.

>>165427086
132 is the 120 cutoff but a lot of people go to 125 so you shouldn't have issues.

>>165416470
Make Bramdt do more damage after upgrading

Cut down on the number of health regen items

Improve animations

Add the missing arch stone

Tone down the spear red eye knights who charge at you

Remove world tendency altogether.

Add a duel system

Make it possible to delevel somebody with soulsuck five times max on invasion

The game is very clunky. You could do a lot to change it (add more diverse movesets to weapons, give enemies and bosses new animations so they aren't as painfully basic, patch down the myriad things that break the game, balance weapons) but you would quickly make a game that is nothing like Demon's Souls. DeS, for me, is incredibly atmospheric on first playthrough, and after that is just a fun, easy game to find ways to break.

>>165427243
Maybe because good sorceries require int

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>>165427243
can't imagine why

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>R1 phantom range
>point down

how do you guys deal with this shit. fuuuuck

>>165427243
>why aren't people using a catalyst that requires 60 FAI

Because you need INT to even equip the fucking sorceries in the first place, stripping out even more stats from an already exceptionally anemic build.

>>165428051
I stop getting mad at video games because they're video games and i'm an adult.

>>165420970
Here's a guide for completing Demon Souls as quickly as possible:

Kill the Phalanx by throwing fireballs at it. Go to the fourth archstone and pick up the crescent falchion. Then, buy 100 arrows and have some sort of bow. Graverobber blige sells wood arrows for very cheap, he's in a cell underground in 4-1. Then, go to the second archstone. Kill the armored spider with arrows by standing far back against the wall and spamming. Next, buy a soul arrow if you don't have one, and use it to kill flamelurker. Kill the Dragon God. Now, go to 2-2 and kill the tower knight. Rescue Karla and trade the Dragon God soul for firestorm. Use that to kill every other boss in the game.

>>165428182
I've tried that but my life is already so empty that bullying people in video games is the only way I can feel good about myself.

>>165423363
>>165421796
Wow this is what our threads have become?

This is a new low

Vow of Silence shuts down magic casting in the Deacons of the Deep fight

>>165408149
Are you new?

What are good weapons for Dark Miracle/Miracle casters? Just asking so I know where to put my points into str or dex.

Hello fine gentlemen. What is some of the new lore or gameplay related things that you guys have uncovered?

Sulyvahn 1>2
Twin Princes 2>1
Abyss Watchers 1>2
Friede 3>2>1
Dragonslayer Armor 2>1
Soul of Cinder 2>1
Nameless 2>1
Dancer 2>1
Aldritch 2>1

Is the Fume knight straightsword more of a caster weapon or can it work for a melee oriented fighter?

>>165428495
4kings guy was the alltime low imo

>>165428841
Funniest post I've seen this month

>>165428820
There aren't any viable weapons that scale well with faith, unless you want to dump enough into strength to use Morne's, in which case you can also use Earth Seeker and Dragonslayer Axe. Find something you want to infuse with lightning or raw, if raw buff it with lighting blade. A lot of faith builds use the dragonslayer axe. If you want to invest a bit in intelligence for hexes, you get some more options.

Rose of Ariandel is bad but usable in PVP at lower levels, it's good for rollcatching and builds up bleed. It will do around 280 damage at 40 faith and base stats.

Does anyone have a weapon ranking chart for DaS2? Preferrably one that is most up to date with SotFS.

>>165428707
for five seconds

>>165428913
It's only good if you're going a HexDex build. S scaling Dex weapon with decent Dark scaling requires a lot of stat investment, but you should already be 150 or so by the time you beat Fume Knight anyways.

>>165429254
RobFlynn with Ice Rapier

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It's Friday the 13th lads, pretty spooky.

Yo guys I am doing a run of DS2 and I heard something about Power Stance Blue Flame.
I researched a bit but got confused, its about dual wielding a weapon called Blue Flame that also works as a catalyst.

How do I go about doing the build? do I get this weapon early on or only super late in the game?

Should I start of by getting the minimum dex and str req and dump the rest in int / end / vit, or start of as a caster with some INT so I actually deal damage and put the STR and DEX later?

Is it worth investing points in faith/int to get weapon buffs in DS3? I'm using right now items to buff weapons and it feels much better investments as I can run with my quality bulid.

>>165430489
Blue Flame's a sword catalyst found almost at the end of the game. You can use the two swords to buff each other, making both sorcery and attacks stronger, and then power stance them, holding down triangle to bring up a stance where pressing L1 does duel wielding animations. Level your stats up to 1.5 times the base stats to duel wield (in this case 20 STR, 23 DEX) and build your character as a sorcerer, leveling up intelligence. DLC bosses are very magic resistant, and you may struggle with them. You could CE a couple of them in early and go through the game with them, or you could have somebody give them to you.

>>165426648
Why is she calling Gwyndolin brother?

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>>165430489
This guy said it pretty well >>165431096, but I will add my bit.

Sure, you get blue flame pretty late, but I still had a ball with them. Using them in the dlc was pretty fun, though I didn't think the magic resistance was high until Eleum Loyce.

For the early game, I enjoyed the dragonrider twinblade, which coinidently has the ~20 str ~22 dex that you need to powerstance the blue flames anyway.

Fun fact- even at 50 int, the raw infusion for the blue flame is better because of how garbage their scaling is. They have decent base stats anyway so its not that big of a loss.

Is it just me or are fights significantly easier without phantoms in DS3?

Also, what's a good way to farm souls, I have a bunch of shit I want to buy and I've spent everything raising vigor.

>>165430678
It only takes 10/10 int/faith for carthus flame arc, you might want to get that at the very least but you'll do fine even without buffs really.

>>165431096
>>165431424
So either I ask someone here to somehow get into my world and drop the swords, or I go for a different build and just switch to the Blue Flame once I get them halfway into the game?

Also can I just respec? go full faith build and then just switch up all my stats and what not?

>>165431825
Yeah, you can just respec. I used to sometimes just do a strength with the blacksmiths hammer or lance or a dex build with uchi or a spear until i got the shit for my build and then respec.

w/e floats your boat.

>>165430489
Blue Flame is easiest to get in Undead Crypt, which is pretty late in the game. You can respec as long as you have Soul Vessels, so don't worry about meeting the requirements for it beforehand. Get base str/dex for a rapier and use that in early game. Infuse it to Enchanted once you have a Magic Stone and the ability to do so.

>>165431785
I have spare souls, since I don't want to level up so I can spend these on items. So thanks.

>>165431486
I usually just do a few runs of the Londo Silver Knights with all the +Souls gear
Alternatively go put down a sign at twin princes or archives entrance

>>165431927
>>165432086
Guess ill stick to my Faith cleric for now, get some sort of paladin going for a while until I get the items and respec.

Respecing just lets me re-arrange all of my points? or will it bring me back to my starting level (Cleric base stats) and let me put my souls back again? or worse ill have to farm souls all the way back.

>>165432651
It lets you re-arrange your stats at your current level. You dont have to start all over.

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>>165432651
It just lets you move points around. You can't reduce any stats below what they started at and your current level remains the same.

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What did he mean by this

>>165432792
>>165432707
Oh, guess I'll start over as a Sorc then, if not i'll be stuck with 14 dead points at Faith.

Thanks guys, I guess I'll find my niche until I get the swords, would you recommend starting of with Magic or will it go dull pretty fast?

Seeing as I'll be starting as a Sorc, what should I play as until I find the swords? I'd rather it no being pure melee since I already played DeS and DS1 as a pure melee character.

>>165432963
Fire longsword is a decent int starting weapon. You find that relatively early.
Mace, rapier or uchigatana works well too, also found pretty early.

>>165406191
>Dark Souls 2
>hard
Lmao.

>>165432963
I guess to answer the rest of your question, using the magic you find early with one of these >>165433109
weapons is probably your best bet. You can also use the binoculars you find in majula to manually aim sorcercy as well, which can be pretty fun

Last 2 questions for me and I'm done.
1) Should I just buy every spell I encounter along the way? or just focus on buying the shit I need?
There isn't a situation where if I skip buying a spell it wont be available anymore or something like that (npc dying as part of the plot, one time offers or stuff like that) Are there spells that can be bought but also gained for free?
2) I never finished DaS1, my PS3 crashed on me when I finished Blighttown, are there any spoilers?
Should I go back and finish DaS1 before continuing?

>>165433771
I would just buy what interests you. You don't need every spell, but trying new ones out is always fun. and not that i am aware of. even if the merchant dies, there is a way to get the spells from them.

For spoilers, Not really, das3 had more than das2 did. Das2 really felt like a completely different game.

>>165433771
There's several spells that are both sold by vendors and found in the environment, but having multiple copies of a spell is beneficial since you can attune it multiple times to get additional casts.

DS2 is almost entirely unrelated to DS1, with some minor lore mentions and one or two cheap throwbacks that don't really add much to the experience even if you do understand them.

>>165433771
>2) I never finished DaS1, my PS3 crashed on me when I finished Blighttown, are there any spoilers?
DS2 is a side game that shouldn't even be considered a dark souls game as far as lore goes because DS3 discards almost everything about it save for a few throwbacks some of which directly mock DS2. Aside from some absolutely pointless and tasteless fanservice you won't miss anything.

>>165433771
>Should I go back and finish DaS1 before continuing?
I'd say, yes, if you have even slight interest in the story.

But the story is less important than the setting, which unravels itself slowly bit by bit, so technically you can play the games in any order and then supplement your knowledge in areas that interest you.

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Only 9 more fucking ears

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>>165409708

Cheat engine allowed me to self-insert in the game but now I'm to scared to use it due to the high risk of getting banned by using something simple like the body mod features.

Anyone wanna do Champion Gundyr with me?
PC
password: dsg

>>165434860

Sign where?

>>165435015
At the door if it's convenient for you.

>>165431380
You serious? Or is this bait?

Holy shit, I didn't even get to a position to parry Gundyr, when you absolutely rekt him.

By the way, don't pay heed to the pompous character name, I thought it would use my steam name like in Dark Souls.

>>165435293
Too late, we all think you're think a pompous faggot.

>>165435417
Well, in that case just imagine there aren't any asterixes in the name and it describes me perfectly.

>>165435112
Where would you put your sign then, at the bonfire?

What, Just killed Wolnir as sunbro and it just left me at the place where you fight it, until I got connection error and got no reward.

I bet I got a penalty strike for that too.

>>165433771
Play DS2 first, then DeS and then play DS1 and DS3 back to back.

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>>165434406
4 M O R E
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>>165437198
How many Silver Knight leggings do you have?

>>165437258
well i've been selling them every so often to raise the luck stat but I've almost used all 999+10 rusted coins

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>R1 phantom range

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>>165438357

OK that was good.

Can anyone give me advice on Lorian and his gay brother?

I can't deal with this all 1 hit kills and teleporting and then exploding on the reappearance bullshit. It's just fucking bullshit.