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60% Winrate Edition

Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/.
The expansion, Rise of Bahamut released on Dec. 29th.
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database/Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/g8OD1

Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing

Discord: https://discord.gg/b4fvx
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All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor UPDATED WITH BAHAMUT:

Link:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U
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Updated card art package.
https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
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You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

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>>165196779

Bitch you thought
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Why is Prince of Darkness such an unfair card in Take Two?
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Alternate leader costumes when? Summertime Luna when? Succubus Eris when?
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Reminder to remove Levi
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>>165196941
Your Daria just became a golem.
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why are score rewards so shit?

>50 vials
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>>165197003

>Alternate costume for Luna

uhh, we already have one?
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>>165196982
desu if you don't have a good finisher in your deck in t2 you should end the matches fast.
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>>165196982
>10pp do nothing
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>>165196982
Because PoD is a turn 11 win condition and T2 almost always goes to the late game.
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>>165196941
nah chill b
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>>165197105
>Are you paying yet?
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Need a concede for daily private mission

48716
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>>165197292
She's an idol
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I need help. Still need to craft another Themis' Decree and was looking for cards to safely dust, here are the cards, need your opinion which could safely or more or less safely be dusted:

Legendary:

Sun Oracle Pascale
Lord of the Flies
Bloodhungry Matriarch


Gold:

Genesis Dragon
Leonidas
Ghouls Banquet
Breath of the Salamander
Elf Girl Liza
Devourer of Heavens
Uriel
Foul Tempest
Midnight Haunt
Amelia, Silver Paladin
Will of the Forest
Lucius, Goblin Slayer
Elf of the Gemstones 2x
Conjuring Force
Arthurian Light
Angel Crusher
Professor of Taboos
Ceridwen 2x
Alwidas Command
Juno's Secret Laboratory
Anne, Belle of Mysteria 2x


Please keep in mind, it might be that I also wanna play other decks besides Haven at some point, thank you, have some butt for your troubles.
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>shit draws as face dragon against ramp
>turn 10+
>he drops bahamut
>flood the board with tons of garbage thanks to ivory dragon and eat yo veggies
>he can't clear and rage quits
kek
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I recall people calling pure Seraph shit, but apparently it's Tier 1? Unless I'm not understanding what pure means here.
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>>165197105
50 packs
3 animated olivia
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need a concede 69941
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>>165197561
Thanks, Vampy
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>>165197628
when you only need 1-2
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I LOST TO DISCARD DRAGON FML
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>>165197716
thanks anon
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Is it fine to vial Fairy Princess? Is there even a meme deck that plays her?
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If you run Goblin Mage in Aggro Blood, it's a good idea to take out Yurius so that Gobu can consistently draw direct damage that can't be played around.
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>>165197781
You're supposed to reduce them for 3000 vials.
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>>165197596
Can you print? i will just put a big X do every vial material
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>>165196779
>shoving your random discord into the OP
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>>165197596
Devourer of Heavens, Ghouls Banquet, Midnight Haunt, Elf of Gemstones, and Angel Crusher see little to no play and aren't very useful even when they're used.
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So I heard you guys saying sword is not dead.

https://my.mixtape.moe/crehwr.webm
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>>165196779
Kill yourself Discordfag.
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I'm copying every // of /vg/ and will put in the next OP.

When the thread hit 730 you guys will see it thanks.
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what is the problem with discord?
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>>165197596
I wouldn't vial any of those legos, but if you're desperate, the safest one to vial is Pascale.

As for the golds, with some observations for you:
Ghoul's Banquet (sees use in Atomy decks)
Midnight Haunt (for Tyrant decks mostly)
Devourer of Heavens (probably fits in Eidolon meme decks)
Elf of the Gemstones
Conjuring Force (sees use in meme decks)
Arthurian Light
Angel Crusher
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>>165197868
Fairy Princess is one of the worst cards in the game
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>>165197596

>Ghoul's Banquet
>Devourer of Heavens
>Elf of the Gemstones
>Arthurian Light
>Angel Crusher
>Anne, Belle of Mysteria

These are something you can vial without remorse. They are either too gimmick or doesn't have a spot in their respective classes.
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>>165198256
Fuck off discord
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>>165198239
So long as you remove that Discord link.
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>>165197868
Rose Meme runs 1-2x.
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>>165197602
>win against shit deck
>blog about it

Thanks?
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>>165197931

sorry my print is literally broken, new keyboard should arrive tomorrow

>>165198041

my angel crusher was animated, could create 2 themis and 1 elana, now I only need 2 more elanas, thank you!
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>tfw ladder anxiety
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Does anyone have a "decent" Hare Seraph Madness deck?
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So who's the biggest buyfag /whale in this thread

I'm sure one of you degens has spent more than 3x more than me
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>>165198467
>Gain 500 points
>Lose it all in the same day
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>>165197603
Pure seraph pretty much means it's only means of victory is seraph.
While I have great success with pure seraph I also do good with elanaseraph.
I'd say both are tier 2 though
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>tfw i havent gotten a legendary in 9 packs

REEEEEEEEEEE
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62217

will pass/suicide
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>>165198581
>only 9
You are like a little baby. Try 20.
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>>165197596
if i were you, the first thing which i would do, i would dust my animated bronze and silver cards which don't see play/likely won't see any play for a while, and all the spare ones, it's quite a lot of vials
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>>165198569
Pure Seraph loses to a guy who's opening hand is 3 Odins

Elana/Seraph at least can threaten face with some buffed burbs tiggers, and angels
so I don't jack off and wait for the Seraph to drop.
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>>165197603
It's not Tier 1. It does well because all 3 Tier 1s either don't have space for Odin or just don't run similar counters in favor of consistency (Petrification in Daria, for example, is not too common).
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>>165198705
I hit a 33 pack drought when I bought bahamut packs. And a 17 pack drought of Legos and golds once
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>Not removing Mary
Is going face a religion or something? Will you get excommunicated if you make even 1 intelligent play?
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>>165198052
>control sword without 3 odins

He brought it on himself.
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Are they going to nerf piercing rune and levi or is it safe to just give up on this game?
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>>165198939
Play haven and use themis
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What if:
>Storm.
>Fanfare: Gain +X/+0. X equals the attack of the strongest enemy follower in play.
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>>165198859

>odin is now a playset in every control decks

This is some dank meme.
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>>165199034
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>>165198859
Control Sword is the worst control deck precisely, because it has no space for Odins. It needs Odins and Olivia just to keep up with the value and removal of other control decks.

They either need to give the deck a heal to make the aggro match up worth losing every control one, or they need to release actual fucking value control Sword cards, instead of having to depend on neutrals for the entirety of your late game drops. Leonidas is unfuckingplayable, rush is just pure trash that late in the game. Even if it was storm, Odin is just too prevalent.

All master ranks are playing hyper fast trash Sword that makes banner look like a slow control deck. There's no other way to get successful results from the class in this meta.
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62217 ?/20
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>>165199134
>surviving against mordecai and seraph is a meme
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They should add portal to SV is fun to play around it
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Is there a control Elf deck list?
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>>165199034
You can with laura.
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>>165198796
Odin is pretty uncommon. Usually only run into him if I'm against a control deck.
Currently on a 12 winstreak with my elanaseraph, love buffing up followers and dropping seraph on turn 8 and still have a serious board threat. It's like beating them twice, it's overkill.
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>>165198848
if the chance for a leggo 1 per 8 packs, the chance for a 33 packs without a single one is (7/8)^33 i.e. 1.2%

>>165199034
the cost should be around... 7 pp (?)
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>>165199341
but that costs 5
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>>165198856
You're fucked if you do and fucked if you don't.


Aggro blood runs out of steam if they use 6 damage on evolved Mary so you really need to have dance of death ready or gamble for face.
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>>165199327
You control face, by forcing them to kill you before the turn 7 roach OTK.
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>>165199312
getting real tired of you third worlders
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>>165199220
tldr: sword cards are not overstatted
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>>165197596
Just dust silvers you have animated for. Easy 2k dust
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>>165199312
That sounds absolutely aids. Haven is cancerous enough as it is.
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>>165198541
>caring about point losses on 10 minute games
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>>165199289

>teching in 3 overcosted cards to deal with a tier 3 and a single tier 1

It's like you are asking for bricks.
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if a card can restore defense to an ally, are only followers meant with that or the leader as well?
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If rune had access to vania and summon bats, would they cut levi for it?
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>>165199564
If it says ally, leader counts as well.
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>>165199564
Both
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>>165199564
Followers and the leader.
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>>165199564
followers too

Rabbit can heal followers or leader, Radiance Angel only leader
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>>165198052

that looked like a midrange deck with bad draws to me, all he drew was albert desu
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>>165199220
This, except it needs Odin, Olivia AND Bahamut. One of each isn't enough.
The closest win condition sword has is 10 HP storm from evolved Albert. Good fucking luck saving an evo point when you need them survive early in the game.
Leoniads' amulet needed to give storm, not rush.
If a 8pp Seraph requires an Odin to deal with, a turn 10 play amulet that gives +3/+3 storm should too.
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>>165199489
Which is precisely why I don't play control decks.

I'd rather play aggro and concede early than play 20 min just to get seraph'ed to the face.
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Is this a good meme start?
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>>165199489
Not him, but those tier 3s are my decks (control Blood) worst match ups other than D.Shift, which can't be teched against. I already have every card I need to deal with tempo Rune and aggro Blood, it doesn't hurt setting aside 2 deck spaces to ensure I don't auto lose to ramp out Bahamuts, Seraphs, and Mordecais.
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>>165198468
>seraph deck
>sub in hare
>sub in Eidolon

Literally that easy, how to brain?
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>>165199564
you are my best ally, vampy!
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>>165199693

Keep your low iq thoughts to yourself from now on thanks
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>>165198791

the problem is, which are those? is there a list somewhere with useless bronze/silver ones?
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>>165199583

>cutting out a broken follower

I have played games where the daria player did nothing but throwing burn spells at my face like it's fucking hurtstone, and it works.

>>165199686

What do you expect him to draw into to save himself in any of the situation?
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>>165199723
Pluto and skullfane sucks. The rest are good. Alexander is a weaker albert now.
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>Turn 4
>Ogler, Ogler, Blade Mage
Why is Ogler's cost so low to begin with?
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>>165199723
Golds
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>>165199723
Yes keep, ignore everyone else that says otherwise, they jelly.
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>>165199818

nevermind I didn't see the olivia, he had a really bad control deck then because sword needs several more legendaries to control
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>>165197596
>>165197596
>>165197596
source on that ass? I don't recognize the character
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>>165199807
gamewith appmedia and iirc game-ai has something like that but pretty incomplete

just delete all the animated extras when you already have 3 not-animated cards and then delete those you are very unlikely to play in the foreseable future, especially if they look bad, you will pull them again to that time if you need them almost for sure and if not at worst you lose 20-80 vials in the far future
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>>165198052
That looks so fucking depressing to play. I'd probably have quit if I wasted vials on a control sword deck.
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Why did cerberus completely disappear when she still doesn't have any real bad matchups?
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>>165199952
Matching your leggos its like you rolled a daria starter pack lel.
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>>165199941
He's basically the same as Emmylou but I don't think the developers understood that playing a 3/4 along with another follower on turn 4 is so dominant.
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>>165200132
Because everyone is trying to have stories to tell.
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>>165200132
she doesn't belong to nep and nep is the hot meme
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>>165200132
I still use her.
I've been getting my asshole gaped all day by Blood, Roach, and Haven all day though.
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>>165198256
it triggers autists
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>>165199693
Storm might be a bit much, but yes, I'd like an actual wincon for Control Sword. Maybe buff Leo so that he drops his amulet on Fanfare instead of LW.
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>>165200050
Arcana hearts...character name not sure. She wields dual blades.
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What if:
>Whenever an enemy follower comes into play, deal 1 damage to the enemy leader.
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>>165200132

>doesn't have any real bad matchups

Ever had a hand with 3 cerberus but no other small followers while staring at a huge board at that side? Something like that.
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>>165198468
No such thing. Hares and Eidolon don't fit in the deck in my opinion, they take too many spots for average results. They're better fit for a deck all their own (Hare Eidolon PtP for example). Seraph can get better use of the slots playing cards that get you out of a losing board state (which is the most common) as opposed to neutral/winning boards that allow you to play Eidolons.

I think Soul Collector is a good card for Seraph. It allows you to set up future removal, and evolve on 7, for a safer turn 8 Seraph. Much better than turn 7 Themsis against certain board states.
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>>165200132
You play a suboptimal 3/3 vanilla minion on 5 just for some value on turn 6. The average power level of cards has increased so Cerb's value isn't that great relatively, while the earlygame swarm of vamp and daria has made it suicidal to have a suboptimal turn 5.
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>>165200246
aggro shadow is the best shadow anyway
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>>165200251
>putting a random discord in the OP is okay
Remind me to put the SV subreddit in the next OP.
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>>165199723
Daria is the only one that actually matters.
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>>165199921
>Alexander is a weaker albert
Please don't try to talk about things you don't understand
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58479

send help
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12079636/

What bby are you?
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>>165199779
Vampy has a tail?
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>>165198485
hm I bought the xmas deal and the new years deal, someone top me
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>>165200246

Make slots for Lyrial if you haven't. As bizarre as it sounds, she's a miracle worker.
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>>165200132

doggo is slow in current meta
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>>165200132

She's still staple in everything that isn't Neph, don't let the bandwagoners fool you
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>>165200409
It's not random.
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>>165200480
i bought 1 copy of all the prebuilts
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>>165200476
granblue vampy got a tail
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>>165200353
(you)

she isn't picked in nep because she doesn't have last words

>>165200476
one of her best traits!

not sure about he having it in this game though
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:thinking:
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>>165200296
>1 damage

its shit
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>>165200441
ty kind anon kun
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>>165200251
We can also put some random fag'syoutube and Twitch channels that have nothing to do with the game, and the reddit sub links while we're at it. After all, everything is okay as long as triggers autists ;)))

Totally not just a small group of attention whores starved for attention, promise, it's just to spite autists :)
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>>165200591
Yes, it is. Linking to it is like linking to infinitychan for no reason. Fuck off.
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>>165200428
Are you implying alex is good? Cause rush is shit in this meta.

>inb4 8pp to 9pp

Dont reply to me ever again.
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>>165200296
Sword will fuck this guy easily
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>>165200662
*her having
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>>165200658
Now I am even more confused, is that blood shooting out of it?
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>>165200476

in granblue she has some weird shit coming from behind, it "looks" likea tail but it's weird
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>>165200671
>sword
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>>165200541
she's fast enough
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>>165200132
I climbed from A3 to AA0 with her today, using the latest gameai deck.
>>165200541
Nothing slow about doing 11 face damage with Phantom Howl on turn 6.
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tfw couldnt play anything until turn 5 against dshift
somehow win by only playing 5 cards

>Albert Turn 5
>Alwidas Turn 6
>Frontguard Turn 7 and 8
>Albert turn 9 for lethal

I feel like that shouldn't have happened.
cant spellboost if you can't play spells on me for 4 turns r-right?
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>>165200626
>Unironically bought the Haven pre-built
Why
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>>165200671
Is dragon "our guy".
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>>165200132
She's still good when you're not facing aggro blood, Daria, or combo roach
Turn 5 do nothing is not good in this meta
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>>165200886
Which one of these is Nep?
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>>165200886
>>165200920

b-but I get bullied by bats
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>>165200671
We basically have a hearthstone meta now. What a shame.
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>>165200939
autism
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>>165200789
I'm implying that they have different roles, nobody uses 9 pp Albert to clear a board
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>>165200818
>2017
>not hitting your enemies with the streams of blood from your tail

>>165200541
she is a staple in literally every aggro shadow deck

only slow nepnep decks don't run her

if you don't use nep you still run cerbs in a slow deck
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>>165201012
last words
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Control bloodfag here, almost at AA2! Wish me luck bloodfags and other fags!
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>>165200671
>Rune is balanced! You'll just brick half your games!

t.Rune players
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>>165200886
>Tyrant Combo >51%
A dead dragon is better than the dragon class itself
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>>165200771
Nah, that's different, because that would be linking to a separate community.
>>165200747
It's being linked despite one or two autists going nuts over it, not because of it.
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>>165201205
good luck!
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>>165201205
Ganbare best deck in this meta sword is ded
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>>165201025
Not really, it's a pretty even matchup.
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>>165200886

>the city of Nephytis retards
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>>165200671
If Rune goes like this for the next 3 months I eagerly await the spin when they analyze the meta in hindsight.
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Need a concede for a daily, can play with my awful deck if you need the 20 achievement.

91235
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>>165201205

vampy sugoi, good luck vampy
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>>165201025
I don't know about you guys, but my Cerb is getting bullied by Roaches.

Every time I'm set up to win the next turn and then a roach violates my asspussy for 14 damage.
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>>165201259
No it's not different, Discord is a separate community. Anyone can join if they get the link. Anything in the discord can just be said in the thread. Stop pushing your shit.
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Why do people say daria bricks so often? I've been playing with it a lot recently and rarely do I ever get those brick moments. Even when I aggresively mulligan for Daria, I don't brick as often as I would think.
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>>165201025
Pretty much any aggro matchup is just a coin flip on who goes first.
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>>165200671
You should see the ladder stats for dragon.
Not a positive win rate anywhere.
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>>165201421

Thanks!
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>>165201514

I guess I just bad lucked
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>>165201441
Bring wards.
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>>165200671

What fucking Rune decks are these 'tards using? My Daria bricks a good 70% of her games.
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>Pre-RoB expansion
>Dragon, Shadow were dead
>Post-RoB
>Dragon, Sword and Shadow are dead

Haven is on the chopping block come three months from now.
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>>165201635
But muh aggro.
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>>165201498
It's a meme to justify overpowered shit. Just like "just ward bro ;)".
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>>165200671
H-HEAR
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>>165201460
No one's pushing anything. The link is there for anyone who cares, and the only one who ever mentions it in the thread is you when you complain about it.
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>>165201498
because they are daria players looking for any excuse to claim she's not broken. literally the only way for her to brick is to get all 3 darias in her hand at turn 4.
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>>165201441
If you are having trouble with roaches, can always bring that 1/4 ward spatoi soldier i think it was
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>pre RoB developer
>how do we make midrange sword less revelant in the meta?
>should we directly nerf otohime?
>No, lets make rune faster with piercing rune and give blood some extra chip damage minion xDD

What were they thinking.
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>>165201025
do cats eat bats?
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>>165201649
>sword,shadow ded

Nice meme

And pre RoB
Shadow and Blood was fucking shit
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>>165201646
They don't shove it full of cute shit.
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>>165201660
>>165201635
>>165201441
W I G H T
K I N G

>>165200886
>There are people that fell for the Neph meme because they think they're too good for aggro
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>>165201742

I guess? I mean bats are flying rats in the end, but cerb is doggo!
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>>165201498

Because she bricks often as fuck? I dunno what wizardry you're using, but I can go entire games without seeing a single fucking Daria, even with all of the card draw and mulliganing for her.
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>>165201441
if you are not aggro, death breath should be good vs them
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>>165201649

>Shadow
>dead

Not when you have fucking kawaii.

https://my.mixtape.moe/rxqshf.mp4
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>salty sword bbbs

Do you guys really think that a craft should be t1 and opress everyone forever?
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>>165201681
>No one's pushing anything.
>putting it back into the OP whenever they can isn't "pushing" it.
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>>165201498

it's not entirely a meme, I've faced a lot of daria decks that never drew the cunt

of course they drew 3 levi so I died anyway
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So let's sage this thread and create a new one?
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Serious question.

Is Mastema good for aggro or any blood decks> Has a good ability but how viable is it.
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What is it with Aggro Shadow players in this thread?
They seem to have this huge ass inferiority complex.
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DRAW FIRST
PLAY FAST
GO FACE
DIE LAST
ONE TURN
ONE KILL
ALL LUCK
NO SKILL
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>>165201861
Good thing you can fucking win without playing a single fucking daria.
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>>165201498
Dariashitters have gotten so used to effortlessly shitting out a full board by turn 4 that anything less feels like bricking to them.
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>LITERALLY ALL of the standard blood cards are shit
what did cygames mean by this?
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>>165202108
They were used to being special snowflake in DE.
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H-how did I do, /svg/?
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I wanna die.
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>>165202108

That's just the one avatarfag.

The rest is just shadow players of all callings who hate the fucking normalfags hat came into our craft to play Nephmemes
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>2/3 and 3/4 on turn 3 lol
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>>165202108
They have and everyone here loved how DE was because sword was the fucking cunt in this shit.
sord is ded source:/svg
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>>165202176
They didn't understand that Vengeance is a shit mechanic to build an archetype around.
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>>165202084
some jap netdecks had her in aggro bats, afaik she is not very popular nowadays

>>165202115
t: rhinoceroach reading slam poetry
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>>165201861
You don't even need Daria to win games. You drop Clarkes and Oglers and most of the time your opponent can't deal with that many stats on such an early turn.
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>>165201993
But not drawing Daria doesn't exactly mean you lose the game. I've won games without drawing Daria due to the other sheer BS in the deck that allowed me to kill my opponent. Yes my winrate is lower when don't draw it compared to chaining off daria after daria but I still have decent plays when I don't draw her and not completely brick and have nothing to play turn 2-3.
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>>165202229
You can't show this in this thread the ladder is 90% runecraft
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>>165202231
>The rest is just shadow players of all callings who hate the fucking normalfags hat came into our craft to play Nephmemes
See what I mean?
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>>165201861
You don't should've need Daria to win, this is what you are doing wrong. Daria is your "fuck you" button, but you can still win by just dropping many followers ahead of the curve and with aggressive evolves + Levi and Piercing Rune. I win half my games that way. You can even hold Daria sometimes and just play her if they manage to clear your board. You should not be mulliganing for Daria, but rather just keeping her if she appears. You should look for Clarke/Golem + Emmy/Ogler and your low pp draw cards.
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>>165202217

>dshift

uninpressed.png
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Is the crybaby hour now? should we create a thread in /b/ for the whinners?
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>>165202209
It still is because everyone just wants to play Neph.
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>>165202121
>tfw against dariashitter doing triple levi back to back from turn 4-6 with double piercing rune and 3 crimson sorcery
>5hp and about to concede
>top deck themis and put mainyu down and win

Daria is fucking dumb even without her levi 3 crimson sorcery + 3 piercing rune does 9 + 6 = 15 damage. And that not even including 6 dmg from dance of death or 3 dmg from angelic snipe. Daria can literally win from spell burn without even hitting face.
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>>165202517
I mean *"You shouldn't need Daria"
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>>165202231

this desu

Nep in maintenance was the biggest fucking meme around the globe with faggots theorycrafting her and hyping her shit for days
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Can I get a concede please? 15296
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>>165202265

>sword is not dead

The only sword deck that has shown successes is aggro variant with Albert? Just like how Forestfuckers are stuck with math roach?
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>Daria spends all game trading into my followers
>I play seraph

lel

They would have lost anyway but it's amusing to see them fuck up anyway
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>>165202108

I'm just not vocal about my playing aggro shadow

WHICH I THINK IS TECHNICALLY A MIDRANGE DECK
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>>165202217
dust mythril golem
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>>165202454
>>165202684

It's the same reason cblood players are so uppity.

People who played something when it was suboptimal/unnoticed will resent people who come to do a change in popular opinion.

It doesn't take a social engineer to figure that one out.
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>>165202835

*come due to, not "come to do"
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>>165202108
There's one person here, I think they're a trip/avatar poster from elsewhere, who does nothing but constantly whine about aggro being bad (even in this meta)

The rest of the shadow posters are alright
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>open up shadowverse
>win 3 ranked games, win 1 with haven, win 1 with forest reroll into win 1 with blood
>turn 9 seraph
>turn 6 imp lancer
>turn 6 imp lancer
Didn't really give me the momentum to want to keep playing desu
Back to xiv
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>>165202702
Thank you
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>>165202916
>but constantly whine about aggro being bad
No, I'm talking about all the posts that go something like
>AGGRO IS THE BEST STOP PLAYING OTHER TYPES OF SHADOW DECKS
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>>165202278
>Mechanic based around being within kill range
Maybe if they got timeless witch
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>>165202835

I was actually mildly interested in blood before bahamut simply because i thought vengeance and health sacrifice was severely underappreciated but I was too poor to make the deck

now I can't buy vampy because the urge to buy packs gets me whenever I reach 100 gold
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>>165201861
This would be true if you needed Daria to win but you really don't. Daria is typically just a card that says "Oh we were trading 1 for 1 and we're even on cards? Fuck you" and then the game goes to shit because they're drawing a new hand while you likely are not.
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>>165199220
>>165199693
>This, except it needs Odin, Olivia AND Bahamut.

I disagree. Csword is the best deck to counter any type of aggro decks and has fair chance beating tempo rune. I don't see why would you need Bahamut. It's a dead card against aggro decks which are half of the ladder population. Cyclone Blade+ evolved 2 drop usually do the job on clearing tempo rune board.

Teching odin will just lower your winrate since it bricks your hand against anything that isn't Seraph or Cshadow.
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>>165203014
It's the same guy

They do both
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>>165202919
>seraph complaining about anything
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>>165203014

Shadow player here since October. Just ignore those close-minded assholes. Nep and other variants are fun.
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>>165203107
>posting a screenshot of you beating a midhaunt tyrant/PtP meme deck

Wow so this is the power of control sword....
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>>165203107
>Csword is the best deck to counter any type of aggro decks and has fair chance beating tempo rune.
It's outright inferior to Seraph for that
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>>165202919

dumb blog poster

>hag player

figures
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>>165203074
vengeance is still a terrible mechanic and cblood doesn't even really use it. It's always going to be a terrible mechanic unless they finally give blood an equivalent to timeless witch or a card that can give fake vengeance when it's active like a 3pp amulet that gives you vengeance for 4 turns
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>>165203014

I can certainly see why people like NepNep builds more so than aggro, it feels safer, like you're not about to boned by running out of cards.

I just think aggro shadow is deceptively resilient, especially now that reaper is a card. If they wanna play control shadow, all the more power to you, nothing wrong with that. I'm going to stick with a deck that I'm familiar playing with.
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>>165202108
>The effects of male rape are devastating and may persist for many years. The most common response is: non-reporting, denial, anger, depression, low self-esteem, sexual dysfunction and loss of sexual identity.
Blame elana. Shadow players were chill way back when before DE.
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>>165201380
>analyze
Just like they did for RoB, where their """"data"""" denies that meta decks are balanced because they only fight each other
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>>165202916
Uh no, people go on about Shadow being bad when it's fine now and still performed admirably during DE.
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>>165201261
>>165201279
>>165201439
Thanks for giving me power bros, I did it! Have another nice 6 winstreak to show people when they say control blood is bad too!
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>>165203107
can you post dick?
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>>165203429
>and still performed admirably during DE.
It autolost to one of the most popular classes in the game
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>>165202084
I've been trying her for a bit, she typically gets used as a win-more card that extends your lead without giving up hand size. It's convenient when the right situation presents itself (extending your board lead so that you don't get fucked by a clear, decking Aurelia's pansy ass), but it's not really that incredible. Either you run 2x or 0x depending on your opinion of the card.
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>>165203412

actually cards with strong impact that trigger off having lower health than the opponent would be good, it'd be ghetto vengeance.

then an another anon suggested cards that get better by not being in vengeance.
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>>165203536
And aggro still managed a positive winrate. Control Shadow is a fucking joke however.
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>>165203486
Literally no one says its bad moron. When you run fucking the entire early game of aggro blood, its impossible to be bad. Its just not as good as the other top tier. Entirely playable deck.
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>>165201380
Don't worry, we tend to move towards an equilibrium, as people build around the dominant deck. So soon enough we'll have a healthy meta consisting solely of Daria decks, and decks that directly counter Daria decks. And then Cygames will be able to claim that the game is balanced because not everyone are playing the same deck.
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Is control forest even a thing?
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How do I win as Dragon?
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>>165203720

PtP and wolfbolt

It's not what it used to be.
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>>165203074
c. blood is fun until you fight d.shift

and then they remove everything you put out and revelation are just worthless in your hand because they have like 9-12 cards that can either wipe your follows or punch your face and they always get card draw from it

it's a gigantic waste of time, i'm fine with c.blood having loses matchups, but not being able to play the game is horrendous game design

d.shift doesn't destroy the game, but holy shit does it make me regret wasting my time.
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>>165203536

Only to elana variant. You have 50-50 when dealing with storm variant.

t. The dude who has been playing aggro shadow until RoB
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>>165203768
ramp into whatever bombs you have and do it until you nut draw it. or put the aggro shit in it and do it til you nut draw them.
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>>165203107

decklist please
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>>165203536
it's cause they werent memeing enough
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>>165203768

Play Fortecraft. Use Forte and Small Forte to win.
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which boosters are best for forest and rune decks?
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>>165203768

Charge your crystals

You have access to the most broken deck in the game
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98649
Please concede
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>>165203679
>entire early game
>literally only shared followers are vampy and vight
sure
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>>165204174
standard packs for ancient elves and roaches - elves

bahamut for darias - rune
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>>165204174

>Forest

Standard

>Rune

RoB
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>>165204174
Classic for AE, Rhino, May and other good cards in forest if you want to play Roach decks while RoB is for Daria decks while classic has more of the DShift package. There are cards like levi and tia but it's probably not worth getting DE packs for them and you should just craft them.
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>>165203983
tfw deathly tyrant decks have 50% winrate

JO dragon is the supreme meme deck now
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>>165204232
Thanks TopKek
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just
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>>165204454
how do you even get 20 shadows
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>>165204490

That's what you get for choosing Haven in Take 2.
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>>165199723
>People posting their initial decks
>Animated Darias
>Animated Alberts
>Animated Dark Angel Olivias
>Meanwhile I started with Pluto, Skullfane, and Ancient Elf. But already dropped money into the game before discovering rerolling so I can't start over.
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>want to make Control Blood, Aggro Shadow, Forest Roach
>no vials, missing only the top-end expensive cards

end it now lads, hopefully the patience pays off in that something better comes along or i just pull what i'm missing
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>>165203378
Well, 5 winstreaks in master isn't that bad and that guy had 2,5k master points. Also, tyrant shadow surprisingly has good winrate.

>>165203379
I will agree that Seraph is much better at destroying tempo rune but from my experience control sword is much better at cockblocking aggro since you have bunch of ward and rush.

>>165203951
>>165203515
2 Frontguard and 1 Fangblade not in the pic. Also, Monika is fucking good.
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WIIIND STORM

(Daria is a pretty weak deck when they're on the backfoot)
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>>165204454

>small game samples
>it works omgbbq

Statistic fags are the worst. The next thing you know Ambush Sword will be the best deck with 53 sample size.
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>>165204556
>Meanwhile I started with Pluto, Skullfane, and Ancient Elf
>and Ancient Elf

it's not bad at all
1 useful leggo is better than 3.5 bad ones
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>>165204545
I always go 4-1 with haven.
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>>165204545
I pick haven every time it's offered and consistently get four wins.
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>>165204317
>>165204338
>>165204429
thank you guys. probably gonna focus on standard then.
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>>165204539
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>>165203074
I bought her even though the only deck I have that isn't 100% garbage is sword and I'm currently building a forest one.
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>>165204681
buy prebuilts goy. Those are the 3 decks that benefit the most from prebuilts
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>>165204545
>impyling Haven is bad in Take 2

What did he meme by this?
>>
There's any substitute for hare in seraph Havencraft?
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>>165204695
or when they go second
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>>165204794
there is a higher chance to get daria from rob than ancient elf from standard because standard has more cards
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>>165203993
Face dragon is pretty bad against Daria in my experience though. If they aren't saving their removal for your unblockables, they're retarded.
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>>165204694
Can you post a webm ?

I want to know how to play against daria and bloodaggro.
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>>165204858
gonna wait until the next crystal sale, the current rates are fucked.
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>>165204539
Midnight Haunt gives you 13 shadows for 2 turns, the turn you play it and the next. So you actually only need 7 shadows before playing your meme.

The reason Tyrant might be doing particularly well right now is because the most popular decks don't run wards, other than Veight I guess.

>>165204712
I'm not saying it's a good deck, not in a vacuum at least.
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>>165204712
>900 games
>small

D rank?
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>>165204926

I didn't say Face Dragon, I said Fortecraft.
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>>165204875
hare is a meme, it's not usual

>>165204926
hit face and wait for forte?
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There are sword players
In this general
Right now
That don't play Monika.

Explain yourselves
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>>165205050

AA2, in fact, with a nep deck that apparently has 45% winrate.
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>>165204875
The hare list isn't the best, run this one

http://game-ai.jp/22481/

It's a hard counter to daria decks

Hare is in that one deck for Eidolon memes
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>>165204539
this is how. (shitty list since I didn't want to craft cards for it.) or you get the dream turn 5 midnight haunt turn 6 lethal with tyrant. you can get more than 20 shadows by turn 6 even without haunt though if you get the dream with t1 burial grounds and lots of stuff evolving because they ignore deathchaser.
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>>165204904
oh i see.
so back to my anxiety in which packs to open then.
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>>165204875
I encourage you to use this deck, I spent hours tweaking it. I am currently climbing at 6.3k master.
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>>165205050
900 games is a pretty small sample desu if they are mostly played by few dedicated players of that deck
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>>165205128

>one single knight as fanfare

She does well surviving balor to be eaten with Khawy.
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where my /tier3/ niggas at
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This is why I play blood
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>>165205404
control blood main here
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>>165204694
You deck looks good.

Dropping bahamuts after you arguments.

Thanks sword bro.

btw i don't have the third Saber and will substitute it with Olivia do you have another sugestion?
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>>165205187
Also this version is bad, and will lose to roach.

>>165205290
This is me.
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>>165205404
Does it count if I play a T2 deck, but have a T3 winrate?
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>>165205290
How important is the 3rd Seraph?
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>>165205404
Daria here. We are tier 3 deck after all, sites are just slow to catch on.

My favorite meme since RoB launch
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>DE
Sword,Forest and Haven fest
playable dragon
unplayable shadow and blood
>RoB
Rune,Blood,Forest fest
playable Shadow,Blood and Dragon
unplayable budget decks for anything but blood.
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>>165205652
It is the third most important card in the deck and is not optional. Sometimes even with three I don't see one until turn 12, even with 3 priestess.
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>>165205686
>My favorite meme since RoB launch
same desu
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what do you think about substituting night horde with meduza's gaze in aggro blood?

people began to run fat wards recently
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Anyone else feel Floral Fencer is fucking bad in this meta? Bats just unga my face and Daria either clear my board with Levi or spam the board with Ogler and Blade Mage.
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>>165205290

I'll give it a try
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>>165205893
I had it used against me earlier

I just played another ward
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>tfw this never happen to me
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>>165205893
its awful you have dod for wards
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>>165205893
I use 2.

I don't face completely retards in my ladder now.
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>>165206036
dod costs 5 pp though and nobody said you ditch dod
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What do you guys think of my nep arena deck?
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>>165205903
Yes, this card used to scare me. Now I clean it easily with Ancient Lion on turn 5.
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>>165206109
your dead meat
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>>165206090
can you post deck pls
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I fuckin did it. 4th Take2 of mein life.


Hearthstone's arena is really helpful when teaching you when to go face or not to be honest.
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>>165205893
been running it for a month+, makes fat spell resist wards your bitch, has cute waifu. Would recommend.
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I'm new and currently rerolling. I'm torn between the play styles of forest,sword, and dragon. Should I aim for as many legendaries possible or focus on one deck type?
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>>165205652
In Pure seraph you need to draw into it or you can literally throw away some free wins. Prism priestess is not enough, especially since we want to run Tribunal.
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>>165206108
what "fat wards" are coming down before then
it's a dead card almost every time its drawn, two mana conditional kill a follower isn't what the deck is trying to do
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>>165200671
>>165201380
>6 roach decks
>9 vampy decks
>14 rune decks between dshift and daria
>2 haven decks
seems about right for tourney meta
two aggro decks, with rune taking the slot of board-based aggro that midsword used to
two combo decks, the same ones as always
honorable mention to the best control deck and one random idiot playing shadowcraft
What would you rather have the meta look like? What would balance mean to you? And why do you think that goal is achievable in the context of shadowverse?
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>pass the first 2 turns when going first
>still win

I love you Luna
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>>165206386
>opponent passes the first two turns going first
>still lose
seems like shadowcraft is a prety shit class
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>>165206227
:^(
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>>165206295
>tfw my Leviposts were deleted from the archive
Fucking Nazi mods
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>>165205404
>tfw comfortably climbing with a fun tier 3 deck
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newfag here

is it just me or is the countdown shit for havencraft a shir mechanic? I just got beat by the AI on chapter 5 cause the default deck barely has any playable low cost monsters
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>>165206305
at least 1 staple leggo for your class (i.e. ancient elf (forest), albert (sword) or forte (dragon)), and i think at least 4 other legendaries i would call a good roll

>>165206290
or you, can you post your deck? i want to have an impression how you fit duza's there :3
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>>165206386
>Shadow only winning in a mirror
Seems about right.
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>>165204994
Sorry, I'm too lazy to learn how to make webm.

>>165205549
Olivia is another dead card against aggro but will help you on some match up like control blood. I personally would just add 2nd Jeno for more disruption against aggro deck. Crafting 3rd Aurelia is the best option though.
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>>165206237
Here my deck is fucking great aggainst control since i never run out of steam and aggro two because i don't use brick lancer.

Drop a veight for the third DoD if you want.
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>needs to take a shit
>goes to the bathroom and turn on the lights
>3 bigass bugs flying around

Who's going to save me
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>>165205290
>hours tweaking it
>chock full of 3ofs aside from obligatory 2x guardian sun
What the fuck did you agonize over? Whether to run 2 or 3 ancient lion spirit? Seriously, I'm curious
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>>165206305
As many legos (7+). You should play some rounds of arena/watch a stream to get a feel for each class's playstyle. It would suck getting all the cards for one class and found out you don't the class.
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Looking at this page makes me want to use back morde, but I'm playing a deck running 4 lolis.
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>>165206717

>Brick Lancer

Is this a meme?
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How do we improve this shitty card?
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>>165206652
Just go face my fela haven is really slow removal class.

>>165206738
Luna like bugs
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>>165206717
>blood pact
>only 5 1 drops
>meme general

Literally D rank.
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>Lose 6 games in a row to rune
>Get matched against an Eidolon Haven
>Have lethal at 6 PP
>Decide not to kill him
>Wait until he plays seraph
>Finish him off the next turn
Feels good finally being able to bully someone
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>>165206827
one person is trying to force it, nobody else has caught on
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>>165206717
ty
so, instead of night horde just as i thought

i personally run it another way though, imo lancers are great
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>>165206806
Source on this?
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Anyone up for a private match? No concede

77761
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>>165206778
I run a deck similar to this and there are a few other options such as Unica that can be run to similar effect, just alters some match ups slightly.
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What are some priority mulls I should be keeping for a Nep deck? Is Nep worth keeping in hand? Should I keep be keeping Death's Breath if I'm against aggro classes like Blood, Forest and Rune? Also are Balor or Phantom Howl worth running in a Nep deck?
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>>165206658
>>165206791
thanks for the tips. From what little I've actually played and watched I'm kinda aiming towards forest and sword.
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>>165206778
Started, with a list that was running soul collector, 2x lion,2x cudgel, since the limit of evo points. Switched soul collector for luxhorn sarissa. Realized that if I run two guardian suns the "dead evolve cards" (priest and lion) are now powerful late game wards. Used to run 3 unicas, but unica was causing a lot of problems against daria since it was giving them a free kaleidoscope target and soul rune target. Also cards like soul sword and sylvan justice were giving my opponent early game value so unica had to be subbed out. Unica was subbed for three monastic healing, this was to increase the consistency of the deck. After the popularity increase of combo roach, three temple defenders were added.
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>>165207116

https://cycomi.com/title.php?title_id=3

Don't expect translation any sooner, though.
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>>165207178
>nep deck
hahaha
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>>165207178
I would never keep a card above 4 cost in my opening hand to be honest and never have. Meta is too fast to not try and mull for turn 1-4 plays. You will be dead before Death's Breath if you don't have answers for the field near every turn against lolibats.
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>>165205549
I want to fuck that vampire.
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>>165203768
Ramp storm.
Get like 9 2 drops, 6 3 drops and then aeila, oracle and all the cards with storm you can fit.
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>>165206738
it's the lord of value, run for your life
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>>165207026
wait, i am idiot and missed night horde on your pic ><
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>>165206260
>Win 2/5 my first take2
>0/5
>0/5
>1/5 because someone fucked up his draw so bad he didn't get to play anything until turn 4
I'm going to use the picking guide next time because apparently I'm trash at it.
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>>165207130

please I need the $$
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30191
pls concede
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>>165206717
> i never run out of steam and aggro two because i don't use brick lancer
>I never run out of steam by cutting the most expensive card in the deck


what did he mean by this?
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Need a concede onegaishimasu.

95142
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>>165207460
thanks
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>>165205465

fixed
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>>165207162
This slut nun goddamnit
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>being killed by a seraph deck
Way to go daria!
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>>165207450

Make use of the cheat sheets in the OP if you haven't. I have gotten a couple of 5-0 just picking the pair with highest total score.

>>165207178

Not sure with Lich variant, but with the list I am running here, any low PP cards are keepable with the exception of Foul Tempest depending on the matchup. Nep is not worth keeping since that will just brick your hand.

I have been thinking about keeping Death's Breath against Roach, but at the end of the day, it's just not worth the gamble when they could have been tempo instead.
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>>165206836
It's fine, make aiela's effect a fanfare though.
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>>165204556
>>165204746
>tfw I started with only Beast Dominator.
>Now I can make every viable deck for each classes.
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So i unpacked a white doggo of eldwood

Thinking of crafting two more and making silver bolt elf.
Is it shit or good?
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>>165207162

Where are the Eris doujins mang?

I thought she would be a trash tier waifu but she's actually preety decent.
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>>165207931
Save your vials.
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>>165207678
Much obliged.
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>>165207648
Don't run out of steam because of the blood pact.

Imo Dark General are better in late game.
the only problem is if seraph decks atabilize and don't put me in the vengeance range.
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>>165207780
OKAAA-SAAAAAAAAAAN
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>>165207459
if you are doing the privates for the quest just pass and let the one who joined hit you.
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>>165207780
>aria in seraph
Literally how do you not have bats flying up your ass every other match?
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>>165207338
oh, ok. That makes sense, re: sylvan justice etc
my first draft of seraph started with 3 temple defender 3 healing prayer (and my current draft is back there after trying to cut them but never finding adequate alternatives) so it hadn't really occurred to me that there might be a more circuitous route toward that point
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>>165208059
Dude just play temple defender and then heal
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64934 need concede for daily pls
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>>165205404
Discard Dragon reporting for duty.
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>>165198485
$600+ I lost count
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>>165208042
I prefer to play a real memedeck game though, thanks anyway Vampy
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>>165208015
OBAAA-CHAAAAAAAAAAN
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>>165207785
I'm currently running this version from one of the nip streamers. Quite different than the one you posted.
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>>165205369
>Using Balor

>>165206836
That card is fine, Ailea blows though.
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>playing lich shadow
>3 rune daria
>win all 3
>urd attendant night twice and they still dont kill it
>drop khawy
>they lose

Are daria players retarded? They never remove the attendant since they are worry about the 4 face dmg.
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>>165208215
Lad muh daria is unbeatable
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So why's lolitits so fucked up, /svg/?
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>>165208189
Annnnnd I forgot the pic.
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>>165199034
higher cost.
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>>165208215
>Are FotM bandwagoners retarded?
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>>165208191

>not using Balor

Here's a replay for you. >>165198052

inb4 shitter rank. He is a master player, apparently. That explains the Animated Olivia.
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>>165208361
Why no one use the 6 drop ward last word: ward?

He is so reliable and good in almost all the matchups
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Just came back to this game after being away weeks.

Having lots of fun until roaches did like 22 face damage.

Why is this a thing
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>>165208495
gobu found a roach!
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>>165208059
just eat the losses really, bats is slightly favored against seraph anyway and it's all a matter of draw luck, would rather have arias and whatnot to be able to take a beatdown line against the kinds of decks that will just odin your seraphs
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>>165208353
her parents are dead and tfw no friends
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>>165208495
roach otks have always been a thing
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>>165208495
gobu broke the meta
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>>165208353
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>>165208675
yeah, but nowadays they have a guaranteed roach every time when they have gobu and they have 3x gobu and 3x feena which gives a 0pp gobu on evolve, they got very consistent in roach acquiring
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Should I just buy arena tickets or focus on expansion packs, since you can't get those from arena?
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What should I play to push through the top half of AA1? The matchups keep getting more and more volatile
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>>165203486
post deck
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>>165208903
Depends if you are good at arena, what your collection of standard looks like, and what kind of deck you are interested in for constructed.
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>tfw got 3 legends in one pack when I started
>didn't know it was rare so I didn't take a screenshot
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Need a concede

49017
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>>165208950
I've breezed through AA0-2 with a Daria deck and most people here are gonna flame you and whatever but the games has been fast and I've maintained a rather positive winrate.
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>>165208903
depends how many wins you can average and if you need standard packs
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>>165209035
thanks m8
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>>165208474

I haven't given him a try, but I prefer Balor's 3 damage since that usually clears their board rather well. I suppose I will try him out and see.

>>165208361

I'm just skeptical about a urd/assassin list without attendant to curve to. Dingdong is just much better than Widow if your aim is to survive until late game.

Here are some replays if you want to check it out. http://pastebin.com/fDirLxQB
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>>165208968
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>Control blood player drops dire bond
>Know if I play my own control game I might be able to beat them
>But also think if they don't have an answer to sudden aggro I will win outright
>I know they wouldn't drop dire bond if it will kill them
>Drop my entire hand to hit face
>They have an answer
I do this every time I fight blood what is wrong with me
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>mfw I go against my counter whenever I switch decks
Some day Gabu-chan and I will destroy humanity.

>>165208950
Whatever works for you man. Keep in mind that aggro decks will make the climb go faster, not because "they win more" but because the games are faster than control.
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>>165208857
Just let them keep their roach. Keep in mind tempo Rune is the result of them "encouraging" a class that was already in well enough to play a different deck.
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Grea strong!
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>>165208113
>Discard Dragon reporting for duty.
I really want to play discard but I haven't even got the golds needed
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>>165208113
>discard
>even making it into tier 3
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>>165209209
You don't like Matriarch?
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>>165209419
>2 Grea in T2 haha what are the od-
>Animated Dragon Warrior
Nigga what the fuck is that shit deck.
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>>165209419
>tfw Grea is actually ridiculous with JO crystal
Lesbians are apparently capable of charging up crystals as well.
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>>165209515
Nvm i'm retarded.
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>>165209585
Clearing 2/2s with Anne feels great

>>165209559
Evolve dragon.
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>>165209515
Not him, but she's really not suitable for this meta. She works best against Sword and Forest. One doesn't exist on ladder, and one only plays otk from hand this meta.
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>>165209515
I like her enough to have 2 of her in my deck lol. When she works she's great when she doesn't she's a 7 mana 4/5
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holy shit i got matched against the one guy who plays the alternate sword leader

whatever that guy's name is
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>>165209559
Revenge of the shit rares.
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SCANS WHEN?
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He pulled through in the end, the legend.
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>>165209741
Japs like to play Latham a lot in masters. He's the leader equivalent of the "newbie" and "first farer" flairs.
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>>165209839
What a sad matchup.
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>>165209209
Some day i will have the cards to finally play this deck.
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>>165209460
I unpacked 3 Dragoons so Cygames must really wanted me to walk the path of Discard. I just crafted 2 Uriels.

>>165209484
H-Hey someone can dream, r-right?
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>>165209915
>if I just make up some bullshit about masters everyone will believe me since no one here is in masters anyway :^)
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>>165209839
Duck with storm is actually pretty terrifying.
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>>165209839
When you needed exactly 1 damage from hand.
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>>165209915

yeah...I'm new dude. D2 heh
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>>165209839
>someone's doing it
I knew Laura would catch on
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>>165209419
>elf did turn 7 do nothing and still has both evo points
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>>165210025
Anon remember PtP forest?
And how annyoing it was when they played AF into AF into AF, but at least it didn't happen often?

Now imagine that's your win condition.
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>>165209839
post dick please
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>>165209159
Hmmm yeah after watching those vids I think I'll def add in Balor and Dingdong. Not too sure if Attendant is really necessary.
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>>165209559
It looks like a deck that I was thinking about making with greas and neptunes so you can activate demonic simulacrum before I realized dumping stats on the board turn 9+ is retarded and will get you nowhere.

It looks like that anon has yet to reach the same conclusion.
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>>165210234
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I'm having a blast with my Sword burst deck.
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>>165210234
>vampy will never bite my balls
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So how do you learn to use your Evolves? This is the one mechanic I can't wrap my head around. Either I use all of them too early to try and get board control but then I have no oh shit buttons left or I save them forever in case I really need them or wait for "that unit" to be drawn so I can use it for something more than a +2/+2 evolve for trading.

Are there some general rules? How do you people use your evolve?
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>>165209741
I honestly would probably play most of the alternate leaders before most of the main ones. I guess Latham and Erika are the closest though.
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>>165210360
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>>165210046
If Duck had even just Rush on its own it'd be one of the best kill spells in the game. 2 mana kill anything with toughness lower than or equal to its strength.
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>>165210371

the fuck is the left game
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>>165210371
>DOTA
LMAO
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>>165210217
But at least everytime I drop Dragoon Boy, I drew a lot of cards to get another Dragoon Boy.
And Anon, AE can't possibly generate the same amount of Ecstasy as when you drop Dragoon into Dragoon into Dragoon.

Dragoon is amazing that you don't need to run fucking Meme Crusher.

And I run 3 Fortes and 3 Eyfas so they can be a finisher if Dragoon Boy doesn't deal enough damage.
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>>165210371
>spaghetti on a plate
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>>165210371
Are you really that desperate for (you)s that you need to repost that other anons picture.

or even sadder, you're the same one
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>>165210493
>>165210495

Smite.
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>>165210398
I used every single alt leader except Latham. Nobody likes a mouthbreather.
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>>165210392
Figure out what your deck's win condition is.
Figure out what the enemy's win condition is.
Figure out which is likely to happen first.

If it's you use your evovles to make it happen faster/more reliably.
If it's him then use your evolves to hinder/stop him.

It's not rocket science.
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>>165210371
>gaymer peripherals
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>>165210392
I had a hard time with this too, I'm new as well. But it depends a lot on the deck. In general, aggro decks want to evolve for the 2 damage and evolve asap. When playing forest bats i often just evolve a bat or whatever if I don't have Vania just to get the extra damage in before it's too late or in case I rip Imp Lancer or some other burn. Other decks want to use their evolves to trade to take control of the board, this happens often in Daria Rune for me. In other words, the long and short of it is that it depends more on the deck than in general. Aggressive decks evolve fast to do damage, controlling decks use it to turn dudes into removal is the best I can tell so far.
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>>165210392
>Either I use all of them too early to try and get board control but then I have no oh shit buttons left
then run more oh shit buttons

>or wait for "that unit" to be drawn so I can use it for something more than a +2/+2 evolve for trading.
this is fine as long as you have other answers to play in the meantime so that you don't lose too much health

evolving extremely aggressively is generally the name of the game, including evos to go face and certain matchup-dependent pre-evolutions for instance unevolved goblinmount dies to levi), unless you're in a very attrition-y situation or you very specifically plan for the game to last N turns and know when during those turns you want to evolve
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>>165210009
make 1 more queen vamp and the golds and you can start playing it, there are lists with 2 mary and 2 queen vamp. You can play without matriarchs too, maybe put in an ice blade and an alucard. after that make the last mary and then the queen vamp.
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>>165210495
That's SMITE stupid
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>>165208649
You are not playing the deck right if you think bats are slightly favored. Use my list. Bats are a free win.

>>165205290
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>>165210539
Rude
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>dirt rune vs daria
>gets his daria out, fills the board
>calamitous ruin
>auto concedes

Feels good man.
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>>165210261

I'll be honest. I haven't played 23478 variant much, but curving out attendant into urd is a big winner on turn 4 most of the time.

3 urd/ass is just too clunky just doesn't register for me when the only thing you can sac on curve is widow and lurching. Heck, I am not even sure how he gets followers to spend Soul Conversion on.
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>>165210707
>expecting people to know about hi rez in 2017
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>>165210707
Don't fucking bully me
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>>165210727
>Use my list.
well no fucking shit running guardian sun and 3 lion spirit (enabled by guardian sun) will make it easier but I'm talking about aggregate data about the seraph v bats matchup in masters bracket
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>>165210234
Had been adjusting it for a bit, but it's kind of shit. I'm probably still going to change it around.
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when you pull one of the only legendaries you have 3 of... oh well, at least I get some vials
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>>165210863
I want to bully her feet with my dick
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>>165210669
I think it's a trap in general for new players like me to feel like they need to save their evolves. Trying to keep ep advantage seems to be important sometimes but in truth most decks are generally aggressive and probably want to evolve for the face damage which seems like a waste.
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>>165208353
Someone beat my Luna up in a private please

12897
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>>165211015
she wants to bully your dick with her feet
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>>165211281

I want to bully Vania's dick with my feet
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>people in A still skipping turn and forgot to hit face.
its like they clear the board and stop thinking. I dont get why this happens.
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wonder how much whaling it would take to have full animated aggro blood
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>>165211015
small things cant bully anything
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>>165210547
>>165210646
>>165210669

So what would my priority be regarding evolving, playing a seraph deck? Board control, protecting leader HP until I get my seraph rolling probably?
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>>165211281
ball busting is the patrician fetish
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>>165211406
Haven't really played a hard control deck yet but I would assume yes, you would use your evolve points to turn your dudes into effectively removal spells to slow them down.
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>Blood drops a 5 cost 6/6 and evolves something else on the board and hits face
Literally impossible to remove
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Got my first 5-0 after 2 months of playing this game.
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>>165208495
Roach is too strong.
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so, thanks to your advice (not to drop night horde) i fit duza's gaze about like this (it can be run with 2 fortresses instead of goblins too, but i don't find those fortresses that useful and goblins seem to add consistency), i had to drop demonic storm which i usually run 1 copy and 1 goblin

how bad is it, what do you think
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>>165211371
Sometimes I play while I drive.
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Buyfagging in this game is so much less efficient than Hearthstone unless you feel like buying your packs one day at a time.

How the hell do I whale out when a single pack is $2
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>>165211551
arisa is best girl
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>>165211526
tbqh mastema has been feeling kind of shit to me
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>>165211351
she wants to bully your feet with her dick (don't have a pic for that one sadly)
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>>165211609

Wait for crystal offers, buy the daily pack for 50 crystals instead of 100 and you're patient.
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>>165210936
yeah, I don't feel like I drop into vengeance enough to justify cutting demonic strike. But I think i'm going to test hamsa at least.
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>>165211526
Mastema?
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>>165211609
pre-built decks are great and they sometimes sell crystals cheaper, also drop rates are pretty good and you get a lot of rupees for free too
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>>165211281
Also good.
We can take turns.
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>>165211526
Execution? Dance of Death? Acolyte's Light? Giant Slayer? Deathbrand? Pluto? Odin? Bahamut? Tsubaku? Swords to Woodlands? Themis' Decree? Sledgehammer Priestess? Tribunal of Good and Evil? Ruthless Assassin? Voices of Resentment? DATE?
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>tfw no vampy mommy
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>>165211659

>loli guards get killed by stortstack

Horrible
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Its funny when the best blood deck doesn't even utilize Vengeance except for a shitty 1/2.
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Need a concede for dailies pls

46908
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>>165211785
So I have two Lord Atomys and a Skull castle thing, should I dust them?
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>>165210371
Give me your spaghetti. I'm hungry
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>>165211406
Board control, unless you have board clear coming up then you can just save it.

Your win condition is playing seraph and then wining next turn. So you want a clear board before you play seraph.
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>>165211785
minus themis then, what are you gonna do about the rest of the board faggot?
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>>165211895
and done, thank you.
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>>165211820

>tfw when alt art vampire mommy
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>opponent concedes turn 3 when you have vampy and veight on the board, he appears to be playing a Dshift deck
>You are actually control blood
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>>165211736
I actually run her in storm/ramp.
When her evolved and enhanced form gets hit by Urd it hurts so much.
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>>165211880
Ive thought about playing the 4/3 vengeance storm dude since it was pretty sweet in story mode but I haven't tried it.
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>>165211820

i want a legendary DJ card

>Djetta
>7pp Commander 1/1
>Summon cards of different cost from your deck onto the field, take their abilities and 1/3 of their stats and discard them
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>>165211915
Lord Atomy is stupid fun in casual matches I say keep it.
>Skull Castle
Eh?

>>165211930
Trade? You made it sound like they only had one other follower. Mastema sucks anyway unfortunately.
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>>165211559
itll work because the main cards of blood are busted. demonic storm should be there. its 3 damage right when taunts start cropping up and can swing a daria board for the comeback in rare cases.

vamp fortress is amazing as well. im not sure how you can run vania and not fortress or the killer devils. medusa and goblin mage dont really do anything. goblin gets you a 2 drop, but its 3 turns (draw it, play it, then it attacks) before tha t2 drop is relevant. card draw isnt a problem with the standard list either.

vania fortress evolve turn 4 is retarded. fortress bloodkin is another one. If you run the mini devils, you get another one that fills the board quickly. your 3 drops are anemic too. which means youll be floating mana a lot on that turn. fortress damage can not be underestimated either. it can generate 2-3 bats and deal 2-3 damage on avg. for 2 mana. thats insane and late game when a taunt cockblocks you, this can be yet another fuck you to them with some burst when they think the board is going to die to the taunt.

your deck will win and win often, as blood is dumb, but it could win more.
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>>165211710
I actually have another variation with 2 Demonic Strikes in place of 1 Hamsa and 1 Laura. Really gotta experiment, but the deck shines against Dragon and Haven. It would shine against pre-tempo Rune if anyone still played it.
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>>165211526
sledgehammer sieg necroassassin and cyclone blade are the easiest answers i can think of. Not exactly sure what control blood, aggroach, or tempo forest do to it but they're either hard counters or tier 1 decks, I'm sure they have some way to manage
definitely sucks to not have answers to fat followers, but sucks hard for them if you do, so it's a wash
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>>165211459
Don't go vampy you have bussiness with me
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>>165211880
Not really. I mean StormHaven didn't utilize heals which is a Haven specialty despite it being Tier 1.
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Start playing ranked with Nep deck reach D have trouble with Seraph and Rune build switch to tempo rune Daria and reach C rank easy. May the memes guide you on your journey.
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>>165211559
You shouldn't run Medusa's Gaze.
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>>165212306
Haven's specialty is amulets. Storm Haven was completely reliant on amulets.
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>>165212123
Are you saying it hurts for them or for you? I've never tried using Snacks Forte with Urd, but going by the in game description of Enhance, she wouldn't keep her extra stats. Is this right?
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>>165211559
think you should max out the goblins and gazes and drop the lancers really helps prevent bricking
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Why does Vampy shitpost so much?
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>>165212217
>it can generate 2-3 bats and deal 2-3 damage on avg. for 2 mana
you mean generate a single bat and deal 2-3 damage in exchange for being the most conditional card in your deck? it's not really that necessary anymore
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>>165211880
it's funny when the best shadow deck don't use shadows and only a fat 8 55 drop

it's funny when sword best deck don't use the sinergy of followers to clear the board and they are using a weird spell to clear

it's funny how best dragon deck concede
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Does your rank effect who you are matched against in unranked?
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>>165212445
Healing is it's specialty too though. It may not be 'unique', but it most certainly utilizes them in to an extent other crafts don't.
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>>165212545
yea medusas gaze so much better and less conditional xd
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>>165212637
Yes.
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>>165212537
She needs to something entertaining while auto piloting her mind numbing deck on the side.
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>>165212126
>Dude
Did you just assume their gender?
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>>165212537
You are just noticing Vampy now.
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>>165211659
H-hear !
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>>165212537
so much time over when opponent is thinking because she is playing brain-dead aggro
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>>165198796
>Pure Seraph loses to a guy who's opening hand is 3 Odins

No, because this don't exist.
1. Nobody runs 3 Odin. It's cost is far too great to run 3 (banish is only really important against a couple decks, and none are meta defining decks right now).
2. If some strange player runs 3 Odin, they won't draw all 3 faster than you'll draw 3 sereph with all your fetchs in a dedicated Sereph deck.
And no competent player should keep 3 odin as they are 3 dead cards till turn 8.

3. If someone runs some new Odin dedicated fetch deck. It wont climb because roach, daria, discard AND NONE OF THE OTHER MAJOR DECKS CARE ABOUT ODIN.
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>>165212306
>run into a storm haven running wards and healing

someone must hate aggro a lot.
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>>165212715
That's stupid. I want to play ranked but I don't want my daily's to get more difficult when all my daily decks are shit.
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>>165212596

>when the best shadow don't use shadows

but every shadow variant uses shadows in one way or the other?
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>>165212743
I've been pulling Vampy fangs since DE got released. The only thing I'm noticing is an increase in shitposting.
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>>165212754
Seriously kid, if only you sucked my dick
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>>165212829
Well I assume it's to prevent what happens in Hearthstone where new players just get smashed the instant they get out of the new player queue
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>>165212545
if you change the deck as stated, there are more bat activators. my post also operates under the premise that the other player plays cards and minions and will try to fight for the board. can you just plop it down, get 1 bat and 2-3 damage? sure. thats still amazing 2 mana value and does not change the fact it can give you the reach you need to win.

what you are syaing is that you can run a weaker variant if you want. in that context, yes, its not needed. i explained exactly why it is better and what changes the actual aggro blood that is tier 1 deck runs.
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>Want to play arena
>Need RoB packs
Why the fuck are we still on vanilla packs?
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Why do people hate Elana, again? It's loads better than OTKs and mindless aggro
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>>165212782
>3. If someone runs some new Odin dedicated fetch deck. It wont climb
cucktrol blood teched toward more draw and 3 odin retains the deck's strengths against bats/daria and beats seraph as well. That's 3 of the top 4 decks feeding it points, which makes it entirely possible to climb even when you get cucked by literally everything else
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>>165211785
The most bullshit of all these: Will Of The Forest
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>>165213073
Because my X deck is less boring than your X deck and tha all sord is ded source:/svg
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>>165213073
I want to mating press Eris if that counts for something.
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13973 private match quest
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Who /kripSV/ hype here?
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>>165213073
Meeting someone dropping healing on curve sure is exciting.
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>>165213372
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>>165213247
I might share your opinion if we could see more of her body. For all we know Luna is more stacked than Eris.
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>>165213492
But reddit is fun
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>>165213372
fucking no one
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>>165213492
they are here right now
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I need that Unga Vampy image.
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Any good list for aggro/rush Sword ?
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Need a private match for a mission
38777
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>>165213029
>can you just plop it down, get 1 bat and 2-3 damage? sure
the point is that you can't
every single card in bats is far more modular than vampiric fortress which gives the deck a very elegant consistncy even compared to other aggro decks. goblin mage is oriented in the same direction too. Vampiric fortress is burn with upside when it goes off but the amount of work you have to do to get the payoff is a stark contrast to the amount of work you have to do to get the payoff from any other card in your deck. IMO it's a relic of the DE shell where you didn't have enough pushed cards to fill out your curve, and it's unnecessary post-RoB. And I'm not pulling this opinion out of my ass because I randomly felt like cutting fortress, I hold this opinion after following the lead of successful bats players in masters and experimenting with 0-fortress lists
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>enemy play ''win game'' card
>i play a card that banish
>lose by reaper

Explain that shadowbbs
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>>165213372

I tried watching some footage

>seraph haven

and get that shit out of my face
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>>165213454
holy shit the art on elana is lewd as fuck, I never even realized that since I don't want to be a shitter
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>>165213656
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>>165213073
elana cycles through their whole deck for free while activating a somewhat fucked up amulet and its only as weak as it is because it relies on trash cards only an idiot would play without it on the field. It's annoying as fuck and a nightmare to have to bet ranked points against because the games gonna take 70 minutes no matter what.
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Need private match win, could also use 100 free ruppies.

95939
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>>165213546
I'm sure there's someone here who has a full body image of Eris.
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>>165212596

>nep deck doesn't use shadow

Yeah, I wonder why I am putting Foul Tempest and Death's Breath.
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>>165213590
>vampy
>Arisa
>forestfag
>floral fencer
>luna obeses
>dub faggots
>/hsg/ anymay crub normalfags
All the aboves are the ones who shits spaghetti all over this place.
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>>165213741
That's the edited version.
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>>165213686
Thank you very much
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>>165213546
luna is more stacked than most, except for maybe isabelle

>>165213972
oh, shame
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How do you stop from running out of cards as OTK Forest?

I mean, your deck is full of 1pp followers, and often you have to delay the roach combo because there are wards up, but it becomes difficult to get rid of the wards when you run out of cards.
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>>165213073

care to post deck kind anon?
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>decide to try some Roach on the ladder in the hopes of getting some easy wins
>every single deck is running shitloads of wards

Guess I was too late to ride the Roach hype train.
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>>165213656
So is Monika worth running? Or is she just too weak?
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How long have been playing the boys from A rank and beyond?

I started playing this week and honestly I can't seem to go over D3
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Any good list for aggro/rush Sword ?
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>>165212217
if fortress generated a bat with no bats on the field i would pick it 10/10, but since it doesn't, it is often useless or barely useful, in my experience. sometimes i have to sacrifice my followers to set it up for maybe 1 damage more than i would get without it, so it was there on the field for that 1 damage all that time i.e. another follower or a spell would likely had more impact. i want to try how it is without it

>>165212517
i had a game recently where i got 3 imp lancers pre turn 5... i won it

lancer is just the best finisher blood has i can't get rid of her, afaik all the netdecks run usually 3 and at the very end 2, it would need to change the playstyle drastically to exclude her
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>>165214205
Same here.
When i tried to use bats in ladder everyone was using early removal and shit.
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>>165214348
About a month to get to A with casual play on the train, in lectures, and before bed.
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>>165214259
5 is the most crowded slot for Sword, so no, she's not worth running. 3x Albert, 3x Seiba, 2 or 3 Avant, and then you even have to consider shit like Cyclone Blade. Honestly, 8 5 drops is already too many.
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Need a concede : 53065
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>>165214139
Wards fuck us over. DoD is the main method but I usually end up wasting a roach or beefing up ancient elf and evoing her. Also Pixie mischief, but it's never really saved my ass but once or twice
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>>165214259
Monika is amazing, she punishes turn 4 evo trades very well

>>165214512
>Avant
Don't listen to this guy
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Anyone want to JO? Going to need to see your crystal before I waste my time.
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>>165214348
Started on December 31st, i'm nearly B3 right now. Played around 1 to 3 hours most evenings.
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>>165212713
that's another anon though, not me (that anon who asked advice)

gaze is experimental and it is there in exchange for 1 goblin and 1 storm, not for fortresses which are swapped for goblins
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>you were drinking in a bar when this nerd came in and slapped your sader waifu's ass, effectively killing her

What will you do? Oh, you only have 3 defense, by the way.
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So what's the best shadow dick now? Nep? Aggro? Something else? Want to play shadow but don't want to to craft bad shit
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>>165214573
What about that overpowered shit WotF, retard?
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>>165214573
I find that there are so many early game decks that it's hard to get enough board control to actually get the roach combo off. You have to trade with aggro to stop them from killing your face, and you have to kill wards. On top of that, you have to use both evolves to produce 0-cost followers.
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>>165214139
if you're this incapable of tempoing around wards just run the wolf homecoming package or the wolf bolt package
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>>165214348

Started Steam release, I'm Masters now.
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>>165214259
She's great in Arena tho.
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>>165214713
I have a lot of material to JO.

But what you intend to do now?
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>>165214780
see >>165200886

it's aggro

nep a shit
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>>165214259
I run her on my control list, she does a lot of work when you can't activate Aurelia or would prefer to clear.
>>165214512
I thought the same, but then again it is better to have the option of clearing than not. Avant can be a good card but as the meta is right now is pretty fucking difficult to find a spot safe enough to play her, unless versus other control match-ups, and I'd rather not tech for the lower end of the ladder.
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>>165214796
It's good. I've used it a lot but it's inconsistent sometimes, like when you don't have a lot of cards in hand and you need to kill a beefy evoed ward
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AHAHAHAHAHA TREMBLE BEFORE MY MIGHT LOWLY ELVES
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>>165214816
Feena and the 2 Elfs are heavy as shit that can trade for anything and bring shit to your hand. The fuck are you talking abot
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>>165214780

Aggro is a tried and true variant with new additions that further improved it. Nep is okay if you like control and fun.
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>Blood bats mirror
>Dude goes turn 2 minotaur, then next turn draining kiss
>Actually worry I'm going to lose my momentum because of that stuff
>>
>control sword vs dshit
>don't drop any follower
>wait t5 for the albert
>deal 10 damage face
>deal 10 damage face
>win

Finally a control deck to beat this shit in my ladder.
>>
>>165215183
They only get +1/+1 from the evolves so I wouldn't really call them "heavy as shit". But the point is that it reduces your defensive options.
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>>165215197
a new player with a bad deck, possibly even the default one
>>
>>165215117
>ptp forest
that's a patient on life support Vania-chan
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>>165215229

>managed to get to turn 9 and 10 against dshift

You just fought a shitter or someone who bricked.
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dirt rune here. Leave the Daria meme to me.
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>>165215267
Fuck you Roach
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>>165215312
I actually thought it was some teched out anti aggro shit or something I honestly don't know at this point
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Man he's just the best
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>>165215117

>that moment after trading the entire board you realize you just set yourself up for bloodhungry field wipe
>>
So talking about Monika, how do you guys feel about the 5pp evolves? Do they help make going first better for you?
>>
>>165215195
>>165214959
Is the aggro variant with reapers on game-ai the best one? Or can someone post a good dicklist? I'd have to craft 2 more cerbs and the reapers for that one
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>>165215229
Two evolved Alberts hitting face while the dshifter has no removal feels so fucking good, even if it requires sweet (draw) timing and no fiery embraces, though I'm not sure if they cut that in favor of rune.
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>>165215452
no because I'd rather turn 4 evolve and then turn 5 evolve
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>>165214713
>Going to need to see your crystal before I waste my time.

here it is
>>
>>165215348
If you don't give targes d-shift can't play.
>>
What if Daria Rune had a Spellboost Rhinoceroach?
>>
>>165215114
Your hand size should be able to hover around 6-8 most of the time, it's not necessary to play all the fairies on hand unless you have princess mage or setting up a turn3 ae bounce.
>>
>>165215229
>deal 10 damage face
>turn 5

?????????
>>
>>165215452

Lyrial helps more I'd say.

If there was more cards like Sledgehammer and Levi then going first would improve.
>>
>>165215623
What if your waifu orbits my dick?
>>
>>165215427
had like 3 ways to get lethal, but wanted to make her feel bad for playing a bunch of unnecessary 1/1s and teach her that you should only play what you need to to win and that she should always play around matriarch as an elf
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>>165215409
anti aggro blood it's control, isn't it, i.e. blood mary and stuff
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Please concede.
15346
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Help with concede daily, please
31513
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>tfw just want to play Haven
>tfw have to play other shitter decks to get them up to 100
>>
If you urd an enhanced creaturem (like date or eyfa) does it still keep it's enhanced stats?
>>
>>165215679
>Shitposters
>Reading
>>
>>165215813
read card
>>
>>165215703
But she does nothing? Woa what a beta
>>
I need a F A S T Sword deck QUICK QUIXK QIK
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>>165215728
nah it looked like bats with one drops and stuff desu but i dont exactly know what control blood looks like so, maybe you're right. I just know I legit got freaked out for a second because I was like shit this guy stalled me out like 4 turns in a row with removal on my dorks and trades and wards. But since I think it was an aggro bats deck he ran out of steam hitting himself in the face with his wolves and claws and shit just to trade my dudes and being left with just dweeb followers
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>>165215749
Thanks Hal.
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>every single Themis and Elana is in the bottom of the deck
T-Thanks cygames
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>>165215229
>t5
>10 damage Albert
nice story anon, too bad it's not possible.
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>>165215503

There is no definition of a best aggro shadow deck since everyone has their own preference. Cerberus is the obvious must-craft while you can do with cards likeTenacious Ghost if you don't have Reaper.
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>>165215813

no, it's why urd is useful for beyond just proccing last words. She also sabotages the opponent's followers.

>Shadow Reaper gets Urd'ed
>mfw

Bright side is I get a heavy hit in usually.
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>>165215813

No. Urd de-volves and de-buffs her targets. Great for fucking with situational wards like Crystalia/Zombies and fucking Ancient Elf
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>>165215749
>>165215752
Goddamnit anon I even left mine and did the Let's Battle Again thing, still need help
73653
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>>165215785
>have to play other shitter decks to get them up to 100
>have to
Stop being so autistic and just play what you enjoy/do well with

>>165215971
karma for playing elana
>>
>>165216063
>Stop being so autistic and just play what you enjoy/do well with

>tfw actually losing rank coz playing shitter decks
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>>165215452
They help in take 2, but most of them don't have any place in constructed. Monika is the most tragic since she's competing with Saber and Albert. Feena is the only real winner, and that's because she pretty much seals a turn 7 kill for Roach.
>>
In Daria, is it ever correct to turn 2 magic missile face when you have a golem in hand?
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>>165215679
>They dropped Phoenix Roost
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>>165216046
Oops. Host it again.
>>
i only have one laura and 3 ducks

Is it worth to craft the other two lauras to do a meme duck deck?
>>
>>165216142
plz stop memeing
>>
Why all these dragon decks run 3 odins?

I just want to seraph these guys
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>>165215971
You can still win
>>
>>165215861
>>165216003
>>165216008
actually i had the same question as that guy and i am not sure you answered it

i mean yes it de-evolves and de-buffs conditional buffs like from spells or like those that reapers have, but what about when you have, say, enhanced eyfa for 7pp, will she lose her storm and stat buff after resurrecting?
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>>165215567
>magic missile
>sorcery cache
>levi evolves
>angelic snipe
>insight
>kaleidoscopic glow
>conjure golem
>fate's hand
>summon iceform

You eventually have to play something too because your hand will overflow.
>>
>>165216046
>>165216180
No worries, someone else got it, thanks madman
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>sometimes think about dropping righteous devil for wardrobe raider
>people still trying to push for early lethal, sinners keep needing to be purged

people who run her, please sell me on her.
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>>165216142
You know, you can't enhance past your play points, no matter how much cheaper roost makes it.
>>
>>165215971
it's not over til it's over anon. Drop the fucking Satan and pray for heals and just trade.
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>>165216324
>people who run her, please sell me on her.
run more than 3 four-drops kek
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Are tier lists a meme? I'm AA0 and I can't stop winning as ptp forest.
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>>165216279

yea that's considered a situational buff that can be removed by Urd.
>>
how high do you think can one climb with a default deck?
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>>165216324
She kills 2 things and heals.
>>
>Keen Enchantment Daria
I'm a genius, no need to thank me
>>
Kinda have 10k vials, any deck I should try to build? Is Nep worth the investment?
>>
>>165216003
I dont get how people find shadow reaper useful. It only has ambush for 1 full turn. So if you dont get kill your own minion by next turn the ambush is gone and its a ded card.
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>>165216469
A1 or so
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>>165216442
>Are tier lists a meme?
Yehp, winrate too.
>>
58304
need help with the play until the end achievment
3/20 still
going to skip turns
>>
Swordcraft or Forestcraft in Take Two? I feel like both are pretty close desu.
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>>165216375
nah he topdecked a Quickblader for exactly lethal
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>>165216469
If you have a brain and common sense, A0 should be easily attainable if you feel like torturing yourself.
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>>165216469
A, maybe AA0
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>>165216581
Absolutely retarded, take sword
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>>165215986
>smugwhore.png
>mfw

>>165216310
not sure about this situation since I don't play dshit or control sword but if you have all the tools in your hand to win the game who cares if you burn cards? if this is actually the case you could just hard mully for albert and if you get him in the first 9 cards you just win. I feel like dshit usually fucks you anyway though since they can just kaleidoscope their levis and magic missile face, etc
>>
>>165215503
As the other anon said there is no 'one best list'. These cards are core:
-Skull Beast
-Soul Conversion
-Usually at least three sets of 2/2 2-drop followers (use mummy for sure, rest are optional)
-Undying Resentment
-Rabbit Necro
-Howl
-Cerb
-Usually 2-3 hard removal (shadow has tons of options)

Beyond that I've seen various lists. Some get fancy with last word/Urd combos, some run reapers, some run lots of ghosts (playful necro, voices of resentment). Try out various builds at see what you like.
>>
Let's all pray for Satan.
>>
>>165216517

I usually play it on t4 and squeeze in something else, so I have an established board that they have to trade out or they take damage, and eat bad trades
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>>165216324
I run 2 righteous devill and 2 wardrobe raiders

Why?
Because wardrobe raider is good for board control outside of vengance and on early game

You evolve her, kill someone with the 2 damage and the you kill another with her rush. You killed two followers in a single evolve, outside of vengance and most of the times, you left a body there.
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>>165215452
I play Sword, it's almost the same old.
Though, the addition of Amelia made going first much better, Monika is just one more option that I have to spend an evo point on, much like White Pally, Teena/Fencer and Albert for finishing. That said, I did say it was almost, it does feels better going first now, especially with aggro being as strong, I now have an actual reason for wanting to go first, while still enjoying the extra card and first evo when going second. One thing I haven't figured out yet is if I want to go first or second as roach Forest, to me it feels like both positions have good advantages over one another, and this is pretty good.
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>>165215971
Get fucked
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>>165216442
Tier lists are just a predictor for the metagame. For example, in a rock paper scissors tournament where no one played paper, rock is tier 1, even though they're all theoretically balanced and in equal amounts.
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>>165216469
D
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>>165216667
i think some exclude resentment and even conversion
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>>165216310
Only play defensevely to kill the levis with rush like Jeno and blitz.

Even Merlin is fucked because this thing can be killed by a single rush in my decl.
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>>165216668
>>165216593
NVM MY MAN
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>>165216593
>Quick Blader
>Lethal
How? Didn't you leave just Albert and the Princess. I can only assume you're just a baddie or not actually the Haven player.

Trading 3 for 1 Albert would be a retarded move considering Satan could trade with him next turn since you would undoubtedly survive.
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>>165216442
more or less yeah since your local meta will likely not be exactly the observed or predicted meta of the tierlist. btw any chance you're the ptp elf I beat as control blood a few minutes ago here >>165215117 ?
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>>165216640
Mulliganing for mid game cards isn't actually a bad strategy for DS so your 1-2 cost cards don't get bounced and smaller weenies don't die. I used to keep Otohime against DS during DE since you usually couldn't win unless you used her anyway. But even without any targets I've seen DS get to turn 8 and win by themselves easily. It's not like they aren't mulliganing for DS themselves.
>>
Have you every played Daria when the opponent has less that 10 HP and then waited to see if the opponent concedes?
>>
>>165216667
Some aggro shadow decks don't even run removal. I'd say the only core cards are Cerberus, Phantom Howl, Lesser Mummy and Rabbit Necromancer.
>>
How am I meant to get any of these dailies with no good cards
>>
>>165215971
>trade Radiant for Trooper
>Healing angels for Oathless and Soldier
>play Satan
It's either a Albert top deck or a comeback. Not bad at all.
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>>165216538
thks Vampy bro
still hosting at
58304
for whomever wants a free win
>>
>>165216996
>btw any chance you're the ptp elf I beat as control blood a few minutes ago here
Nope, I had a 100% win rate against control blood today. The only deck that repeatedly fucks my shit is mid sword but I almost never see it anymore.
>>
>>165216864

Usual mainstay for aggro shadow
>Skull Beast
>Cerberus
>Phantom Howl
>Lesser Mummy
>Rabbit Necromancer

The rests are mix and match.
>Dance of Death
>Lyrial
>Dark Conjurer
>Attendant of Night
>Tenacious Ghost
>Unica
>Bone Chimera (Only if you are running Reaper)
>Demonic Strike
>>
>>165217094
>I'd say the only core cards are Cerberus, Phantom Howl, Lesser Mummy and Rabbit Necromancer
second this
>>
>Go first
>Lose match

I love this game.
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>>165216956
not the guy but assuming albert had the enhance effect and could attack twice

>>165217023
no but I've had daria played against me into 2 oglers a blademage and an emmylou when I was below 10HP, pic related
>>
>>165217094
I'd be surprised to see any list skip Skull Beast though.
>>
man the game is getting frustrating since the expansion. I usually have 30-45 minutes tops to do my dailies and its impossible now.
>>
>>165217275
People who complain about being first really need to git gud
>>
>>165216956
At that case Albert can attack face 2 times. His best move was to play Satan, trade Albert, then get lucky drawing the -19 wincon and finish up with Satan or Bird.
>>
>>165217168
If that was an enhanced Albert he was pretty much fucked though. Even if he wasn't he was already fucked leaving him alone so long.
>>
>>165217192
thanks dragon babe
58304
5/20
play till end i skip my turns
>>
>>165217275
maybe try playing aggro sometime baby back bitch
>>
>>165217206
Oh, well good luck with the games and keep up the good work!
>>
>>165217302
It's the best 1 drop for shadow so yeah it's pretty much included in every list.

I like how Aggro Shadow isn't as straightforward as other aggro decks so there's a lot of variety, although not it's complicated by any means.
>>
>>165217491
>playing the braindead archetype
>>
>>165217434
>>165217290
>>165217476
I just assumed it was a regular Albert since he had 6 play points left from the earlier turn which meant an enhanced Albert was on the field the turn before that too.
>>
>>165216956
>>165217168
Albert had enhance and was smart enough to use him to kill my followers instead of going face the previous turn. There was literally nothing I could do with that board
>>
>>165217275
Isn't it only sword that suffers the most? Overall it's like a 49/51.
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What you guys are talking about?
>>
>>165217605
>not it's
you can swap those around, I need sleep
>>
>>165217652
He's probably the kind of player that uses the three evolves in a row, 3 olivias and still loses
>>
>>165217614
enjoy losing going second then yugibabs/mtgcuck
>>
>>165217481
thanks Aggrobat fellow
6/20
58304
play till end i skip turns sory for the spam
>>
>>165217652
Sword and Rune have really skewed rates. Turn 4 Levi is just such a strong play.
>>
>put hard removal and wards in my deck
>break the meta

Nice game shadowbbs
>>
out of curiosity, did anybody try to use meduza's gaze on a bellring angel? will an unevolved ding dong turn into an unstoppable killer capable to kill bahamut?

>>165217302
yes, you are probably right
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>>165217759
>mtgcuck
please lets not bring the discussion to real tcg
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>>165217647
How would he trade without losing any defense at all? if he had have been played the opponents previous turn since he can't play an Enhanced Albert unless he pays 9.
>>
>>165217807
actually that is evidence of a nice game i dont understand this post
>>
>>165217759

>yugibabs

actually for the longest time, going first for control decks was a REALLY big deal.

It still is I bet (I left the game some time ago) but since they gutted the set 5 play rai-oh strat it didn't impact as hard as it used to.
>>
>>165217759
>Yugibabs
Spit out my drink. Fuck you.
>>
>>165217605
Shadow has an interesting card pool at lower PP costs. Their higher cost end unfortunately suffers still.
>>
>>165215997
>Not running both
Fuck removal
>>
>>165217764
thnks Dapper Dhamp bro
7/20
58304
play till end
>>
>>165218006
>>165218006
>>165218006
new thread
>>
>>165217948
We need a lower cost Andras for maximum skellington unga.
>>
>>165218040
>6 posts early

This is why we keep having two threads up all day.
>>
>>165217909
That was the intention of the post. It's a common exaggeration that going first was OP and going second was autoloss because it let you set up first to either prevent responses or otherwise just generate massive momentum and demand an equal push or lose. Every deck STILL wants to go first to my knowledge though I also left a while back though not for any particular reason. Some people think it's correct to go second sometimes and well I'm not going to say it's literally never correct but the situation is pretty stilted.
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>>165218040
>early
>didn't remove discord
>hadowverse

A+, 10/10. You managed to fuck up a simple copy paste.
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>>165217831
I've never done it, but it should be possible. Both Medusa and her gaze are instant killers.
>>
>>165218071
voices of resentment
also lesser mummy

:3
>>
>>165218095
Don't use that thread. He fucked up the OP, and on top of all that I got 3 evolves.
>>
Can we get a real thread, not one made by discord kiddies
>>
>>165218306
>:3
jesus christ it's a lion
>>
>>165218252
i think it is early exactly to keep discord
>>
>Open pack
>Bloodhungry Matriarch

I don't play blood, other than the cost it doesn't look too shit? Or am I wrong?
>>
>>165218431
Can't speak for that Anon, but I just copy paste whatever without reading the OP post when making a new thread. I'll leave it to you autists to fuck with the OP back and forth when you make your own threads.
>>
>>165218470
its really good
>>
>>165218470

it's a 2-of

and it's fun dropping them back to back
>>
>>165218614
>>165218614
>>165218614

New thread.
>>
>>165218551
I really just wanted a second Neph to save me having to craft her since I'm down to 3600. It's funny because the guy I beat to get the rupies to buy the pack was bat blood.
>>
>>165218656
Fuck off.

I'm serious.
>>
>>165218656
Anon, as much as I hate that other thread, there was no point making that one, should have waited until the other one was nearly done.
>>
>>165218656
>actually made a different thread
you fucking autist why
>>
>>165218657
i got two neps, one animated and i feel like its a waste since i dont play shadow
I would consider playing it if i have the third one, but not now
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>>165218656
>This retard is going to keep bumping his dead thread for the next 5 hours

This should be a bannable offense at this point.
>>
>>165218656
>blood players
>>
84842

Need a concede
>>
>>165218892
Personally I plan on ever putting 2 in my deck for consistency. Deck isn't going to focus solely around her.
>>
>>165218656
>>165218928

HOLY FUCK
THERE IS THREE NAO
>>
>>165218881
>>165218881
>>165218881
proper new thread without ddiscord
>>
Let's use the thread without discord.
>>
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