/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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First for BEST HUSBANDO

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First for anyone want to play?

First for Dung Pie Builds

>>165109137
Which game?

>>165109201
Anything but DeS.

Anyone know where I can find collector edition guide for DS3?

Need to change a name on a character

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>>165109036

Dark Souls 3 is an excellent game, and Dark Souls 2 is a good game

Xth for Sister Anime being the best fight in this game.

>>165109397
Google is your friend. Also, changing character names can bring down the Bamhammer.

Is there a single decent spear magic users can wield?

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>>165109652
>Dark Souls 3 is an excellent game

>>165109839
Butterfly horn in das1

does vordt have pusspuss?

>>165109839
Moonlight Butterfly Horn

>>165087197
>people bullying this sweet young man because he isn't up to date with all the best strats
dsg is mean

How safe in cheat engine in DaS1?

>>165109839
Pilgrim's Spontoon

>>165110034
>>165110056
In DS3, that is. Most magic spears seem to be absolute trash.

>>165109751
>Also, changing character names can bring down the Bamhammer.
I had already done it in the past, just have to copy the character into a new slot and change the stuff, but I forgot how to do it.

>>165110096
There's no ban system, but everybody has PvPWatchdog, so you'll be booted from their game whenever you spawn in.

how many Outrider Knights are female? Just the Dancer?
Does it specifically take a Pontiff's Left Eye to create an Outrider Knight?
Why did the Pontiff make the Outrider Knights?
Is there any explanation as to why Vordt and Dancer are so special?

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>>165109036

Some people criticize Dark Souls 3 for being too similar to Dark Souls 1 and "safe". Before the game came out, there was one rumored feature: Bonfire Making. Would you have liked this feature to be implemented, /dsg/?

>>165110301
That'd break the game

>>165110301
>fps: 28.5

>>165110301
Eh, probably not. There's no way to balance it in a way that makes it a good game mechanic unless you reduce it to a glorified alternate preset bonfire lighting animation anyway.
Imagine if the Souls playerbase of 2016/17 could just kill an enemy next to the boss door and spawn a bonfire. Invasions would be even dumber.

>>165110301
There's already too many fucking bonfires. Besides, From would need to put in in areas that would be immediately obvious as prime bonfire zones.

It would also break invasions and co-op more than they are now.

Anyone making a new build that want a partner?

>>165110301
Fuck yes. It would make traveling feel adventurous again. They should make a couple of warpable bonfires with the ability to make your own personal bonfire but only that one.

>>165110681

I've been wanting to make a mage build.

>>165110956
In DS3? I've got a Harry Potter cosplay that could play with you.

>>165111075

Yeah. Let me create this shit and buy the white soapstone.

>>165110000
It really is dumbduck. Consider the following bosses:
-Twin Princes
-Champ Gundyr
-Sulyvanh
-Soul of Cinder
-Dragonslayer Armor
-Nameless King
-Abyss Watchers
-Dancer
All of these are good to great. Every one. In all other base Souls games, the only bosses on the same level are Astraea, Darklurker, Gwyn, Gehrman, and Gascoigne. Look through a list of bosses for any other Souls game, most are forgettable or bad. Dark Souls 3 learns from the mistakes of its predecessors in boss design, at the very least. It does have real problems (number of i-frames, mediocre weapon variety, quality being so strong in a game where magic is largely underwhelming), but it's still easily one of the better base games in the series.

>>165111169
im levelling a pyro if you want a third
just got to catacombs

>>165111169
You don't have to buy the white soapstone, I've already gone through the game.

>>165110301
>Would you have liked this feature to be implemented, /dsg/?
no

i thought from the beginning that they'd never be able to make it work, guess i was right

So has anyone tried to heal the boss with the moundmaker exploit?
I really don't wanna do a cleric run to try it.

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>when everyone else aren't aware that the host is being raped until it was too late

>>165111169
Password? I'll place my sign at High Wall.

>>165111464
>roll roll roll roll roll sip sip sip sip gank gank gank gank

We all agree that Dark Souls 3's pvp is the worst, right?

>>165111581
I don't know if it's the worst, but it's certainly the most tedious. You need to be able to combo someone down in one go otherwise they just reset the fight.

>>165111346
>>165111373
>>165111561

I literally just created the character though...Pass would be dsg. Let me run through Champ.

>>165111257
Okay, now what about the parts of the content you spend more time than bosses? Levels and PvP

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So what the hell are these trees that are growing up hollows' assholes?

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>>165111581
>literally no way to counter hosts that run and heal
>forced attrition in every invasion
All my victories feel empty after sloughing through gank after gank.

>>165111581
Invasion group fights are fun.

Duels are fun.

Normal invasions kind of suck though. The Estus is way too fast, even for PvE.

>>165111871
Fire going out at it's worst state. Everything is turning dark or we're going back to the Age of the Ancients (people turning into big trees)

>>165111916
>duels are fun
>swaps to bloodring and regen

>>165111871
There's a theme of stuff growing out of Hollows. Trees, in that case and in the Undead Settlement's, and abyss goo, in the Pus of Man enemies. Londor Pilgrms and Clerics wear those shells to avoid something growing out of them too. Pontiff Sullyvahn grows twig-like wings out of his back.

Who knows what it means, it could be some plot thread they discarded during development, something we will get in DLC2 (not likely) or something that's just in to make us speculate.

>>165111871
The Dark sign causes people to return to their original state which before even hollow were the archtrees. Its why the sign on your chest/back/etc. looks like roots.

>>165112371
and hollows look shriveled because their skin is turning to bark

>>165111581
yes.

>>165109036
So Gundyr was a champion, who gave him this title? Also at what point did people drop it and start calling him Ludex?

Playing dark souls for the first time. I heard that the best place to farm is dark root forest. Can I farm there and still join the covenant later?

>>165112163
>swaps to bloodring and regen

Who does this though? The PvP is pretty unbalanced, that's true, but I always hear these horror stories about the arena and I just don't get these kind of players. I play on PS4 by the way, and solely in the "Duel" arena. The worst I got was people trying to abuse the terrain to their advantage, like camping the pillars, and even then it's extremely rare.

I have like 1000 hours in this game and I never saw people acting like these theoretical shitters you talk about.

I agree the possibility shouldn't even be there, but the feel of the weapons and overall combat keeps bringing me back to PvP even if it isn't as deep as Dark Souls 1's or as balanced and varied as Dark Souls 2's (which had an horrible feel to it, by the way).

>>165112758
grinding souls is a crap idea

unless you're doing it to buy upgrade materials

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Is this transmisogyny?

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>>165111885
This so much. It sucks to be having a fantastic fight with someone, but then they run away and chug. It just fucking ruins it.

Victories feel worthless when it's like pulling a tooth.

>>165112674
The title "Champion" came from his destiny to become a Champion of Ash, but something went wrong. His second title, Iudex, is Latin for "Judge," in that he acts as the judge for unkindled trying to reach Firelink Shrine; if they can best him, they may pass and attempt to link the fire.

Downscaling was a mistake.

>>165112909
Its transmisogyny the same way a bear mauling is transmisogyny

>>165112674
He was a Champion of Ash, like the Unkindled One. He just woke up late for the end of the world party.

>>165113018
So wait why is he sitting around his candle circle in our shrine when it is ready to go and waiting specifically for another champion?

>>165113284
Time is convoluted :^)

>>165113417
Was Miyazaki always this lazy?

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>>165113417

>>165111783
>Levels
Few parts of DaS3 are insufferable like areas in previous games (exceptions are smouldering lake and the farron swamp). A lot of early areas, like the Cathedral, are very open and interesting. Level design in DaS3 is okay or mediocre at worst. You're just getting bored with the formula.

Souls PVP is always terrible by competitive game standards, fuck it.

What are the reccomended level ranges for SotFS DLC areas?

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why is FUGS faster in das2?

>>165113723
It's a better game

>>165113619
3's PvP manages to be the slowest one ever.
No one cares about balance, what is infuriating is what >>165111581
>>165111718
and >>165111885
Complained about, it's a bore to play through 3's PvP whereas PvP in the other games was much faster and less annoying

>>165113284
Untended Graves (part past the Oceiros fight) is in an Age of Dark, where time doesn't exactly work in the same way (the Shrine Handmaiden is there, and remembers us if you speak to her immediately after in our shrine, Sword Master is a summon despite our killing him, et cetera). As best as we can figure, it happens prior to our "awakening" as Unkindled. Gundyr was defeated, so he remained there until a new warrior could best him. Because he became infected with the Pus of Man (his transformation, possibly due to exposure to an Age of Dark/Abyss), he could no longer be a Champion of Ash, but he could still sort the weak from strong potential candidates.
That's as best as I can figure, someone might have a better or clearer explanation.

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>This is the third time I've played thru DaS2
>This is the first fucking time that I've been up here

I honestly didn't realize you could climb up the ladder if you walked along the wall

>>165113876
Lighting that sconce looks pretty cool from below.

Also those textures are rather funny.

>>165113723
The unkindled one only does cardio

anyone here on ps4 and willing to help with the nameless king? been stuck on this fight for a couple days now

>>165112862
so can I still join the convenant after grinding here?
Also can someone explain why Im offline while playing. I dont see any ghost or orange signs lately.

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Embarrassing. Thanks though. I'll finish it up.

>>165113548
Fuck if I know. I'm sure there's an actual reason for him being all stoned up. Like, why the fuck is the coiled fragment stuck in his heart? Did he pick a fight with the Firekeeper? Why is he covered in Deep jizz?

Untended Graves exists in an Age of Dark, apparently, but also appears to exist before our time in DaSIII. Also, I don't think any Deep shit shows up in Graves. Maybe Sully is actually trying to preserve the Age of Fire and trapped Gundyr to his roll as a judge.

>>165114257
tfw had to parry 3 separate invaders

>>165112371
what the fuck are archtrees

>>165113619
>You're just getting bored with the formula.
No, because I still enjoy every other Souls game.

Chaos bed Vestiges
Fire Surge
Black Serpent

What can I use as a last pyromancy?

>>165114196
Firs phase don't lock on and run in the same direction as the head the moment it tries to barbecue you. Second phase delay your rolls until the NK stops floating and you'll get better results dodging his wonky hitbox.

>>165114445
The best pyromancy, Black Flame.

>>165114445
Black flame

>>165114305
No, Gundyr serves as a judge for those trying to reach Firelink Shrine. If they can best him, maybe they can link the fire. The coiled sword fragment is there for that purpose, so the winner can light the bonfire. The "Deep jizz" is the Pus of Man, which we can't really nail down a source. I see it as the Abyss leaking, seeing as Gundyr had prologned exposure to the Abyss through an Age of Dark (Untended Graves).

>>165114562
>>165114606
Also, is the new pyro flame better?

>>165111581

Yes. And passive faggotry and unzipped parrying tools makes this game even more obnoxious.

>>165114335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpAqgIe05So
In the beginning everything was an archtree (the dragons were also maybe archtrees). We'll call this the Age of Grey. Before that age ended the archtrees formed into hollows since nothing had a soul. Eventually Four hollows found souls big enough to spread among their kind. Then with Seath's help they destroyed the dragons and began the Age of Fire. Now the fire is fading and people are going hollow. Spend to long as a hollow and you start to revert even further and become tree-like. I am not quite sure what the pus of man fuckery is but I personally think its the humanity within an individual going wild a la what happened in Oolacile.

>>165114686
The new one as in the one from the DLC?

>>165114686
Gives you a small combustion effect when casting spells such as black flame, so it makes BF do more damage when you land it. I'd say it's worth using it.

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>>165115167
>We'll call this the Age of Grey.
It's called the Age of Ancients in the first sentence spoken in Dark Souls 1.

>>165114686

It's better for Black Flame.

>>165115291
Fuck

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A bit more challenging then I thought. What the general early game shit to do as a Sorceror? Made the mistake of dumping everything into Int and having pitiful health. Just finished Vordt. Any specific gear I should be looking for?

>>165115583
Even at 60 INT, sorcery in DS3 is extremely underwhelming.

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>>165111581

>tfw this will never be official

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>>165115676
?

>>165115849
I remember most of the times I tried to leave a sign at mirror knight somebody would summon me first and spam no way
I think I actually made it into the fight maybe twice

>>165115676
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1q1gk9FUVcR

>>165115849

Always killed this guy before he ever did whatever summon shit he does.

>>165115583
You can go full int pyromancer from Undead Settlement. Pyro has fairly good early game.

There's literally so much shit you miss if you don't use a walkthrough for all the games, I hate it. I have to resist using one. I guess I should just get better at finding hidden walls and areas.

Weapons cost fatigue points based on their weight, with some exceptions, right?

Is the cost changed based on one handed or two handed use?

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>>165115583
you want me to come and help you out again?

>>165116752

Oh no. Just wondering if there's anything I should look out for. Like if there was a weapon that scaled well with Int in the Undead Settlement or something like that.

>>165115167

Jesus, I still get chills watching that. All the others try so hard, but never even get close.

>>165111581
invasions? yes
everything else? arguable

>>165115583
Get a rapier and infuse with a raw gem

Stay away from enemies and shoot at them with your blue bullshit

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Why are there suddenly so many bloodstains in firelink?

Also they all seem to be people fighting

Are we invading in Firelink now or something?

>>165117556
I would like this very much

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>>165117209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svy0Ih77fuc

I was actually really impressed with Dark Souls 2's intro as well. Too bad it has nothing to do with the actual game. The imagery of the reflection of the ruins showing the buildings as they were before and you plummeting into the lake was great, but like I just say, nothing was ever built on top of that.

>>165117556
you do know ds2 and ds3 generate fake bloodstains right

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you know, these things are kinda cute
despite of how imposing and regal they look, they just hide behind their stakes and are barely a threat

>>165117795
I just assumed it generated random looking characters for where people have died, but their actions are still the same. That's how you get so many retards jumping to their death on that one ledge right after Dragonslayer Armour

>>165117830
>barely a threat
>throws a Fire Snake at you that goes over buildings and walls
>casts a homing one-shot Firestorm that space launches you
>uses that stake to impale you with a grab when you get too close, and throws you like fifty feet away

>>165118030
>one-shot
Level up VIG you retard

>>165117556
It's mostly people wanting to do Unkindled runs (no Ember active), so they kill themselves at the start. Firelink is essentially a demilitarized zone, but it might be possible to invade there, somehow.

>>165118163
>Unkindled runs
What fucking purpose? Also just fucking jump

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>>165117830

>cute

>>165117757
i was also impressed without really knowing why
seriously though, this was the most try-hard opening of any souls game

>>165118272
That nigga has some great aim

>>165118030
You forgot
>Breaks the fourth wall by dropping frames to a crawl
I tried DSIII on my friends PS4 and fighting these things was like wading through molasses.

>>165118272
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>>165117795
[citation needed]

requesting the thor, god of thunder .webm

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What do you think guys?

>>165117757
the whole intro is part of Dark Souls 2's scrapped time travel plot. you appear before what's left of Drangleic who knows how long into the future. magic lightning bugs open a portal that you fall into and end up in limbo, and the old ladies guide you to drangleic proper, past it's prime. and from there, that plot is dropped like a rock unless you go item hunting for giant souls (or talk to vendrick in the dlc)

>>165118248
I can't imagine why. I'm sure plenty more jump off the cliffs nearby, but the concept of Unkindled runs just seems ridiculous, like people who would go through DaS without reviving to human.

>>165118435
Why does that area look so much better than I remember?

>>165111435
can you heal normal enemies as a moundmaker?

there's your answer

>>165118586
>like people who would go through DaS without reviving to human.
Well, I did do that. But that's because my first playthrough was on a pirated copy with no internet connection and absolutely blind, so I had no idea what anything was or did.

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>>165118424

>>165118435

What is that flashing white frame?

>>165118435
>that armor set

Delete

>>165118781
bless ye

anyone have a spare soul of a demon? i accidentally popped mine
pc, catacombs fire

>>165118785
>it's a stormy, rainy, cloudy night
Hmm...

>>165117757
The woman and child's faces melting was pretty great too. Just a good cinematic, just as pointed out, nothing to do with the game.

>>165118030
>>165118272
>there are people who have actually died to fire witches
this is news to me

>>165118884
Can't drop unique souls

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So Yhorm didn't feel like coming out to play today...

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>>165118909
There's no way a game simulates lightning by rendering a blank white frame.

>>165118737
Maybe they just want the extra challenge of less health and not being able to summon. By the same token, it eliminates the threat of non-NPC invaders, though. I really don't know one way or another.

Best magic catalyst to infuse with simple infusion?

It's just for offhand bullshit, so it's not that important

>>165119202
>catalyst to infuse

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Jesus why are 90% of the bosses in Dark Souls 3 references to older games?

>Iudex Gundyr
DeS' Old King Doran reference

>Dancer of the Frigid Valley
DaS' Ciaran reference

>Crystal Sage
DaS' Big Hat Logan reference

>Abyss Watchers
BB's Maria and Hunter reference

>Yhorm the Giant
DeS' King of Storms reference

>Pontiff
DaS 2's Dark Lurker reference

>Aldrich
DaS' Gwyndolin and Nito reference

>Dragon Slayer Armour
Literally cooler looking Ornstein from DaS

>Soul of Cinder
Gwyn reference

>Graveyender fight
DaS' Sif reference

>Sister Friede
Maria reference

What does that leave us with? Deacons, Vordt, Wolnir, Rotted Greatwood, and Anciet Wyvern? Only 6 original boses? And 5/6 are gimmicks?

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>>165119095
He stayed behind his throne the whole fight.

>>165119269
Just kinda want to do something neat with having 40/40 dex/int.

>>165117757

It's way 2edgy4me.

>>165119385
>>Dancer of the Frigid Valley
>DaS' Ciaran reference
Explain
>>Abyss Watchers
>BB's Maria and Hunter reference
>not Artorias
>>Pontiff
>DaS 2's Dark Lurker reference
That's a bit of a stretch
>>Sister Friede
>Maria reference
Don't forget Priscilla

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>>165119385
>Abyss Watchers
>BB's Maria and Hunter reference
Please tell me you're joking.

>>165119423
Nobody puts Yhorm in the corner.

Unless they're Yhorm.

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>>165119110

>>165119465
Show me an infused catalyst in DaS3

>>165119630
I don't know nigga, I was just asking

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>>165119423
>summoning more than one person for yhorm
>summoning at all for him

>>165119667
You can't infuse catalysts.

>>165119697
I'm engaging in jolly co-operation with three of my friends. I was a phantom.

Why us it Vordt and the Dancer turned into unique super outriders instead of regular ones?

>tfw lose all interest in creating a character as soon as I hit Undead Settlement/Road of Sacrifices

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>>165120004
They had the fattest asses

>>165120004
they had names

>>165119385
because its suppose to be the last dark souls game? what's wrong with some references when they don't even affect the quality of the fights or bosses themselves?
besides, half of these are a bit of a stretch

>Covenants
>Magic
>Heavy Armor

all of these things became worse with every game, why? I thought the point of sequels was to improve things the first game didn't do well?

>>165119385

have you never created anything? it's much easier to tinker with assets you already have. even it's just an idea you've formulated previously

Best offhand parry weapon that isn't caestus?

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On a scale of 1-10 how edgy am I?

>>165120004
It's funny because I find the regular Outriders to be incredibly difficult. If one of them had enough HP to be called a boss they would be way more difficult than the Dancer. I always win by just chugging Estus like a madman, I never had a nice clean kill of them.

>tfw finally getting good enough to invade and beat buttbuddies
I love the great club, bros.

>>165120443
2/10

>>165120004
I always thought that it was outrider to Ernie/Bort stage to fuzzygator/spider

>>165120443

Babbys first edge.

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On a scale of 1-10 how edgy am I?

>>165120443
>Broadsword
Based.

>>165120776
6

>>165120718
I always thought that Outriders had to be made with left eye rings while Suhlyvan's Beasts were made with right eye rings.

>>165120443
Use abyss watchers chest for greater edge

>>165111257
All too easy. Shit game desu senpai.

>>165120776
what boots are those?

>>165120776
ow/10

>playing a new character
>get to Crucifixion Woods, fight the Black Knight
>beat him, he drops the BKGS on the first try
Jesus fuck I'm so happy right now.

>>165120776
point down and slow walk away/10

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>>165120818
How about now?

>>165120904
Leonhard's

>>165120947
>>165120969
Thanks

>>165118781
WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST WATCH

>>165121003
7

>>165121003
Get a red aura from Lloyd's

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>>165120327
>magic was worse in DS2
Did we play the same game

>>165109137
why is soul of gwynder being beta as fuck?

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>>165111885
>Be red eye orb hunting for ganks in the cathedrals
>Find a host and a phantom.
>CHUG CHUG CHUG ROLL ROLL ROLL
>Finally kill the phantom
>Host's reaction: start running away
>Huh?
>Watch that little nigga run across the map to the bonfire
>Don't even follow him
>after a while: "SUMMONING A PHANTOM"
>Quit and never touch this game again.

you might be thinking that I'm overreacting but literally all of the hosts act like this. PVP doesn't feel rewarding.

What makes most of the host's such wimps?

>>165120831
You get one eye from vordt and the other from the sillyman beast you meet upon entering Irithyll so I thought that meant that the beast outriders turned into were the Sulyvhan Beasts you meet

>>165113631
pls respond

>>165121284
Because he has nothing to bring to the table.

>>165113631
>>165121449
End-game level. SL70-100ish

I miss powerstance.

>get summoned by someone named "girl"
>looks like a girl, so didn't think much of it
>she gets hit
>she groans with a male voice

Hehe. Now I know what I want my next character to be like.

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>>165121147
>>165121128
Aight, here

This deserves a 10

>>165121380
They don't want to die? They're trying to get trough the fucking game and aren't looking to fight? Take your pick.

Its really not that hard to see why they're doing this. But you shouldn't be pissed at hosts for doing this rather than the game for making this kind of shit possible and completely rewarding.

>>165121591
all of the good powerstances are already in-game in the form of paired weapons sans (repeating) crossbows and dual ultra weapons

>>165121697
>No legion etiquette or resolve
Best I can do is a 9.

>>165121701
I ain't mad for the hosts tho. But most of them wont die even right at the bonfire. They have nothing to lose there.

>>165121697
>no point down
fuck off

>>165121708
and sans curved-sword+dagger

>>165115583

Use the deep axe you just got it has no scaling. So you can use it while you level up your HP and Endurance.

Later on, transition to a crystal weapon of your choice, or the Greatsword of Judgement or a Crystal Rapier(the boss weapon)

>>165121380
>>165121832
>What makes most of the host's such wimps?
If you want a fair fight, drop down a red sign or duel someone.

Excepting hosts to not take every possible change to beat you during an invasion is retarded.

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>>165121708
>no Twinshields

>>165121708
You could switch powerstances of two different weapons by switching their hands which is absent with paired weapons

>>165121995
FUCK

those too

soon

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>>165121780
>>165121889
But that's too easy

>>165121832
An ember. Which eventually are really easy to get but that's beside the point.
They've got a giant advantage and the game encourages you to do it. They have no reason to play fair.

>>165122045
Now this is some good edge.

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>Be a monk
>Be a depraved degenerate
>Get banished by the Queen of Latria
>Make a deal with some demonic clothes
>Come back to Latria with an army of octopus men
>Turn the place into a giant prison and torture people forever while using their souls to feed the tentacle people
>Spread false rumours that they'll be redeemed if they just escape and get higher
>The few that do get out find only a fake church with a fake Queen of Latria that's actually just another demon

>Decide that's not enough degeneracy for one lifetime
>Set myself up in a chair made out of hundreds of chairs
>Make some giant disgusting flesh octopus monster thing
>Use the dumb fake Queen worshipers for twisted experiments
>Start making my own crawling insect man demon things out of them
>They make a nice change from my stone flying demons and my bigger stone flying demons
>Wow I'm so fucking cool like seriously
>Suddenly one day some random faggot makes it into my personal tower
>Yeah well what's he gonna do
>Suddenly my golden robes fly off of my body and wrap themselves around some other random faggot who just appears in front of me
>Realise that I was never actually powerful, it was just the robes all along
>Realise that the robes were actually a parasite feasting on my soul and now I'm too weak to even survive without them
>Realise that my vengeance against an entire country has ruined me
>Realise that the robes are just going to let me die since I'm not useful anymore
>Realise moments before my death that I was just a big fucking retard all this time


And I thought Aldrich was bad.
The Old Monk was such a piece of SHIT.

>sunbroing in parish for muh medals
>do my job well, blasting everything with lightning and kicking a ton of ass for the host
>host summons solaire and disconnects me at the fog gate
For what purpose?

>>165121549
Uh. I'm 99, and only have one Old One soul (Lost Sinner). First time playing.

>>165121981
I don't want a fair fight. I wan't a balanced game.

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>>165122340
>Cucked by sunbro

>>165122371
Then finish the game.

>>165122392
Play a real competitive game, not an action rpg with some tacked on online elements.

>>165122497
>some tacked on online elements.
You do have to admit, for how tacked on it is, it works pretty well in the end

>>165113723
Because one of the things DaS2 did right was the UGS weapon class

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>>165122497
no

>>165122340
Solaire has more health and extreme defense.
Host will only get the single phantom boss buff and will not have to focus on keeping you alive. Plus he'll get a sun medal.

It's all around the better option.

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>>165122547
>it works pretty well in the end
lmfao no

>>165122497
>tacked on online elements

anon, dark souls is truly a hybrid single/multiplayer game. both aspects of the game by themselves aren't that great, but together, they're wonderful

PYRO
GIMMICK
HOLLOW

Which build should I start a new journey with?

>>165121380
Just use the new glitch and stop bitching. The host won't receive an invasion message, so even if you don't plan on invading the boss room, you get the bonus of a stealthy entrance and therefore won't have an overzealous host summoning phantoms to hunt you down.

>>165122805
Even better if you use the obscuring ring.

>>165122730
>both aspects of the game by themselves aren't that great
Idk m8, I really enjoy pve

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Is the meat cleaver or whatever the fuck it's called in DaS3 good?

>>165122852
sure, for a first-time playthrough

the soulsborne series is only about 125ish hours for all of the games. that's not very long at all considering there's five of them

What's the best offhand weapon to parry?

Caestus are nice, but everyone uses them

>>165122547

>Can't get invaded in an area after beating a boss

>>165123193
buckler

>>165123356
>buckler
>weapon

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>>165123271
Now was there a good reason to remove bonfire aesthetics? It seems pointless not to keep it in the game.

>>165123356
That isn't exactly a weapon

What about daggers?

>>165123412

The reason is """A TEAM""" weren't as smart as you thought they were.

>>165123410
>>165123448
my bad, i'm sleepy

Fuck parries.

>execute immaculate spacing
>punish opponent at every mistep
>optimized post combo and wakeup meta
>do this for entire 5 hours because Roll Souls
>at the last pixel they mash a lucky LT and win

Truly great.

>>165123412
they removed them because NG+ rings was LITERALLY the only ng+ change they did.

what the fuck happened there? did they run out of time or just forget ng+ was a thing?

>>165122956
great machete is a great pve weapon
less damage than yhorms but less stam cost and weight

>>165123467
>A Team
Do people seriously think that the groups that made the first and third Dark Souls are the same?

Do any of you bother to look things up or do you just parrot things you heard once and assume they're true?

>When you die and your opponent dies from your poison because they were pointing down and didn't realize they were poisioned and so low
that'll teach em

>>165123595
Not to mention that parrying damage is tied not to the difficulty of the parrying weapon used, but to the weapon wielded that had nothing to do with the act of parrying itself. That's why it pisses me off when I get a parried and the opponent switches to a big weapon just for that instant. It's something that is fine for pve, but for pvp.

Anyone wanna co-op Queelag? SL39 here, at bonfire at the bottom of Blighttown, PC version.

>tfw phantom range

>>165124113
Coming

Is there a list of PvP viable/meta spells?

>>165123271
There's literally nothing wrong with this. The games are populated enough that you can find players regardless, and it's a huge pain in the ass to be trying to co-op or invade while other people are trying to invade you. Especially DS1 with how unreliable its connectivity can be, you can spend like 30 minutes stuck in an area waiting for an invader that never shows up.

>>165124113
>>165124250
Oh yeah SteamID? Need it for DSCM

>>165124331

Soulmass is mandatory.

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>>165124217

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>>165123193
parrying dagger is marginally more lenient with attempts made earlier, but has awful recovery frames and someone who anticipates you will succeed in backstabbing you far more consistently

farron gs has the fastest recovery but worst frames. medium stability.
caestus has the overall best attributes, tied with all other fist weapons, but is 0.5 weight; explains ubiquity. Fair frames, fast recovery. very, very low stability.
sunlight shield is the best medium shield to parry with; best weight to stability. Poor frames, poor recovery.
buckler and target shield are identical in parry statistics, but vary in weight and other statistics
iron round shield, llewelynn, or golden falcon shield are generally the safest, lightest shields to block and parry with.
katana parries are difficult to class. they have extreme startup frames, but poor frames in all other areas. best in-game for reaction parrying. poor stability.

a parrying tool's stability determines how much stamina is loss when you partial a parry. higher stability parrying tools are recommended for beginners.

Just accidentally upgraded a weapon too high. Can I discard it and be okay or is this characters matchmaking forever screwed?

best place to use the blue eye orb in ds1?

>>165123193
since you're not using a farron greatsword, your best bet is either a rapier or pontiff knight curved sword, for they are the longest of their class.

rapier has the best all-around parry frames for any weapons.

>>165124516
better luck next time. just bring the SL up to a higher bracket.

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>>165124516
rip

>>165124542
Anor Londo

>>165124250
>>165124345

signs outside fog or beside bonfire? I'm still at the bonfire.

steamID: aramblingvoice

>>165124736
beside bonfire

>>165124662
what part? it seems like it's really segmented in terms of online areas

>>165124550
>>165124569
ah fuck
I worked on this character so damn long

>Dark Souls III heavily encourages passive play
>Invasions have you dealing against a phantom and his hosts, which means you're at a disadvantage if you rush in
>I'm hot-headed and I usually charge in anyway

What am I supposed to do? I don't like waiting.

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>>165124859
welcome to Dark Souls III

Such a great game

much replayability

such good online experience

Demon Fists aren't as fun as I thought they were going to be. I miss Bone Fist.

>>165124780
Nice work. Half health before I even swung at her, lol. Thanks man, that was fun.

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>haven't played in a while, forgot destroying chests turns stuff into rubbish
>mfw smashing a few items because I thought they might be poison and learning later about that
FUCK

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Your darkest dumbest Souls secrets:

I can't parry with the parrying dagger. Ever.

My first DaS character wound up around SL300 with a solid 1k hours of play time in NG without ever killing Gwyn.

I preordered DaS2.

Does anyone have a rough list of level/weapon SM for each area? Like 30/+3 for Farron Swamp, for instance.

>>165125232
I love achieving the true maximum soul level, even though I usually do it via illegitimate means to save time at this point.

If I go on NG+ can I still do matches or do I have to kill not Sif and his bitch again?

>>165125358
You can still do matches.

>>165125403
Thanks

>>165125349
how long does it take usually? ~300 hours?

that was my estimate for das3 doing NG+ runs constantly picking up 5 free yoelevels

>>165125556
>>165125349
>Total Souls: 2 065 287 358

ayy lmao fuck that

>>165125750
God damn
Why so high? You'd think they'd make it lower so there could be a true "max" level pvp, still would take a while though.

Any reason to get unhollow myself in DS3 besides wanting to look good?

>>165125928
It's just part of the weird way the stats work, since everything goes to 99 and the soul requirements just scale accordingly to that level. It's obvious they really don't intend for that to be a real goal though because you get fuck-all scaling from stats after the soft cap in most cases.

Best pve Pyromancies?

>>165126359
going to SL271 for 40 on all stats goes for 50 297 058 souls

>>165125750
every NG is minimum 5 levels from yoel's questline not including levels from souls. it'd take roughly 80 NG+ runs to get to max level in das3 legitimately using the fastest memethods. At approximately 10 minutes per step following this route, it takes about 2 hours to beat the game WITHOUT super-optimized speedrunning at extremely high levels with nearly all attributes softcapped on NG+7

(gund > dancer > dsa > vordt > draw true strength 5 times > sage > deacons > watchers > skellington king > yhorm > sillyman > homobros > gwyn 2.0)

only looks to be about 150 hours without factoring in levels from souls. nowhere near as bad as getting a 99 in runescape, which i've done 14 times

using CE to spawn in 699 of every soul item nets 124,736,550 souls, which would put you at max level in about 12 minutes or so.

>>165120092
dancer has a hank hill ass

vordt is thicc as fug though

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>>165126614
this is probably the most efficient das2-like superman build you could make in das3

i like having 93 vit and 66 str for the infinite gear, big damage, and flat level (SL450), but diminishing returns for defense hardcaps at 60

>>165126698
>using CE to spawn in 699 of every soul item nets 124,736,550 souls, which would put you at max level in about 12 minutes or so.
Idk what that is, is that a bannable offense?

>>165110301
it would have been annoying if you like to play as a summon for various reasons

>>165126698
>699 of every soul item
Why not just spawm the best soul item?

>>165110301
Yes, if it meant that there were less bonfires overall and the the areas were designed to work around the level starting bonfire with physical shortcuts instead of lmauu bonfire every 15 feet.
Area starting bonfire and boss bonfire are all that you need, design good levels with physical shortcuts fuckdamnit.

>>165110359
It wouldn't 'break the game' if they had designed the game to work around the mechanic in the first place.

>>165121380
>hunt for ganks
>surprised when you meet gankers
???

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>>165125164
Honest question, why are you in this general? Christ, I'm asking this and I don't even like III that much.
I mean, there's at least thirty posts a thread that gush over how shitty and irredeemably garbage every game in this series is (not just III), surely that's enough?
Surely there's enough of a constant flow of negativity for everyone's liking already?
I'm being serious, every thread people point out every flaw that's ever existed in these games and how each one ruins everything and makes it garbage. Surely everyone gets it by now.

I guess it's shouldn't be too surprising that everyone is a jaded, cynical fuck, don't even like the game/s anymore by this point (or never did) and just fall back to picking apart every last thing out of the laundry list of "stupid things the Souls games do", but I still don't understand why people keep bothering to do this.

How many of you actually enjoy playing any of these games?
How many of you just show up to complain?

Any why the fuck would anyone bother to take a zero-effort shitpost this seriously?

>>165126995
it is bannable, but if done online and over a relatively long period of time, it's likely difficult to catch

>>165127190
easier to detect. does work though.

>>165126995
>>165127190
Alternatively, you could do the soul item method in a semi-legitimate way, even on consoles through savescumming:

>acquire as many of desired soul items as possible
>save profile
>drop soul items to friend
>copy and replace current file with old file that still has soul items in inventory
>you now have double the original soul items
>rinse and repeat until 699 soul items
>every time you replace your old save file, you have just effectively CE'd yourself more soul items.

>>165125232
i can't parry at all in any games reliably

in ds1 i didn't understand equipment load and fat rolled through the entire game (went through it hollow after a bad twink invasion for first online encounter). by ds2 I realized my error and and am export rolling man. i also spent a large portion of ds1 cursed and fat rolling because I didn't know how to be un-cursed and couldn't since I was trapped in the god damn sewers.

>>165127412
I wish someone here could just go to like NG+4 or whatever it is and get that soul item, then just do savescumming until 99 and then drop those around in the threads over and over and over

>>165127519
people do this

>>165127278
>hunt for ganks
>surprised when you meet gankers
>???
Literally what?

>>165127578
Oh really? Because I could use about 797666 or something souls to remove my hollowing

>>165127718
800,000 souls? that's it?

fuck kid, you could get that in 25 minutes killing gold angel knights. git gud.

>>165127382
I don't get the hate of 2 and 3, they may not be be deus ex good but they are deus ex human revolution good which is not as great as deus ex but is still good game.

>>165127772
>25 minutes
EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHH

>>165126857
Danker is 'thicc' in the actually sexy manner, Vordt is thicc in the manner of obese nigger with a cellulite ass.

>>165123412
Bonfire Ascetics were a bandaid patching the retarded mechanic of mobs despawning on you after a while.

>>165122701
Online in Souls :
Dark Souls 3 > DeS > Dark Souls 2(invasions are the worst but co-op and general connectivity btfo DS1) > DS1> Bloodborne

>>165126239
Just use the untrue ring.

>>165127718
use the stones?

>>165127582
The guy was complaining that he met a player who kept summoning as he was hunting for ganks in the cathedral. He was literally looking for players who exhibit that behavior.

>>165127943
But those don't actually work longterm, do they?

301st for 'our guy' DSP

>>165127978
they don't get rid of it permanently, no. but it clears all of your hollowing which only builds up when you die.

you have to reform the dark sigils from yourself via the firekeeper but you're closed off from sith lord ending

I have a question regarding the uchigatana and most other weapons aswell.

When I use the special skill, it uses the blue bar, but I can also use the same skill without any blue bar. How does the blue bar affect the uchigatana's skill? Less damage?

I like using it, because it's the widest cleave on the weapon, but I don't know if I am wasting the... Blue bar on trash...

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>>165127852
>Online in Souls :
>Dark Souls 3 at the tippy top
>DeS right after
good god man what are you fucking doing

>>165127506

I can parry with everything except the one item designed explicitly to make parrying easier.

Your story sounds like you got the true Souls experience.

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What are /dsg/'s hopes for the next dlc in Das3?

>>165128204
Use a better weapon

>>165128204
you can still use skills with no energy but they either do far less damage or dont have their special effects applied
take the uchi's other skill, the parry as example
you can still use it with no energy but it wont actually parry
i assume the slash would be similar, doing the move but with low damage

>>165128382
doesn't really answer my question.

>>165128357
A good whip.

>>165128357
Giant Ladies
At least one nice armor set with metal bits and a cape
A light greatsword with some attributes of a straightsword, or a heavy straightsword with some attributes of a greatsword

>>165128357
A hint at DS4: Electric Boogaloo.

>>165128357
cleric armor
the real grave warden set from 2 and not the tatty mess we got
bone fists
the catch pole
spells that dont need 50 in a stat and two rings to be useful

Is the greatsword worth using in DS2? It does so much damage and upgrades quickly since the materials aren't hard to find. But it's pretty slow. Seems to be fairly popular though, I like the drangleic sword because it's fairly quick

>>165128382
haven't felt the need to switch, but fine, what dex weapon would you recommend?

>>165128357
Nods to stuff left over from the previous games. I don't mean shit like Priscilla or Aldia, but more along the lines of Thorolund, Lindeldt, Nito and his spawn, the Pursuer, etc.

>Invading with Blade of the Darkmoon covenant on while doing the boss invasion glitch
>Instead of being an enemy phantom capable of entering boss fog, you invade as a friendly phantom for forced co-op

>>165128204
Nearly every weapon art costs FP. They can still be used without FP, but at reduced damage and far greater stamina cost.

>>165128293
Both DS3 and DeS made pvp low barrier to entry which meant that anyone could invade, and that incentivized genuine low level pvp instead of all low level invasion being incredibly one-sided.

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>>165128357
I want his set and weapon to make a return, or at least something close to it.
I just want to live out my weeb fantasies and cosplay my favourite boss.

>>165129323
That's true of every covenant except Moundmakers. You have to be a purple to aggressively grape the host.

>>165128356
The parry dagger timing seems a little weird due to the animation. Is that what throws you off?

And I remember that experience fondly looking back. The sewer area with the cursing and frogs... and then ending up lost and somehow fighting a hydra and having to eventually find my ass to the surface and find out how to get un-cursed was probably frustrating at the time. But I'm damn good at HP management and making due with what I have now. Fat rolling was actually fun though.

>>165128357
Looking Glass Knight 2.0
Genuine NG+ content
World effects after triggering Darksign sky
Locations built around a single bonfire instead of a million bonfires everywhere.

>>165129301
>Thorolund
Cathedral of the Deep very likely was a Thorolund Church that was ripped from the ground and lifted into where it is now.

>Nito
fuck no, let the bonelord rest

>the Pursuer
Berserk doggo kinda took his job.

>>165129365
Now all pvp is one sided. Host wins.

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Hey guys, can anyone help me with the dancer? I'm on PC

>invade someone while wearing full havel set
>they backstab me with what appears to be a standard longsword-type for 90%

this guy cheating or is armor THAT shit in this game?

>>165128789
I'm convinced 2 doesn't have bad weapons, just some worse than others (okay maybe the ladle is bad, but I can ladle some fools no problem). The PVP system is far more balanced, PVE you can make anything work.

>>165130086
in DS3? yeah armor is that shit, just wear whatever you think looks cool (or in your case edgy)

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THE MORE SUN MEDALS I EARN THE MORE I SHOULD GLOW LIKE THE SUN

WHAT THE FUCK FROM

>>165130047
Baddie detected. There are invaders who make it work so why can't you?

>>165130272
it was DS1 (pc) actually, does DS3 have havel set too?

>>165130086
He was probably using a lothric sword + hornet ring. Armor is pretty shit in DS3 though.

anyone wanna help with dsa?

pc
dsg
bring your frost weapons and spells
lloyd's shield ring and estus ring are mandatory if you dont want to die

>>165130069
Sign is outside Vordt. Pass: dsg

Been a while since I fought her but I'll try to help

>>165130321
all of them have havel's set. In DS1, ehhh it's been a while, but armor doesn't matter as much as poise break points and maxing damage stats.

How's the meta at SL 140? Worth going that high?

>>165130514
in ds3 that is

>>165130086
lothric knight longsword gets 10% increased damage for criticals
hornet ring brings this to 43% increased criticals
when you are hornet stabbed you are taking 1000 AR worth of damage for a backstab, and 1200 AR for a riposte

>>165130321
In DS3 you have to stack a million vitality to be able to even fatroll. Heavy armor is shit except for poisestacking in pvp.

is this a good build?
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/The+Underdog+(WIN+1+V+4'S)+