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I am going to click on this two times, will i regret it?

>>165033471
Yes, you will regret losing your dignity as a human being.

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Reminder if you play aggro you are scum of the earth!

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Dragoncraft is the ____ class

>>165033471

only because you'll open four in a row right after but what can you do

>>165033471
I can't win with it at all, I think my deck is bad

>>165033286
>>165033004
>it's trash because matriarch, salamanders breath, Lucius, hungering horde and cyclone blade
You will die if you meet a control deck anyway, also midrange is weak to ramp.
No one run Lucius.
Hungering Horde is valid.
Cyclone blade is a one of.

If you don't run Otohime and run 3 Albert might as well play aggro.
There's simply no alternative for 6 cost.

>>165033550
post it

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>>165033385
>>165033428
The worst kind of players are the ones that act like everything that beats them is somehow unfair. Bonus points if its players that think they deserve to win because they have more shiny cards in their arsenal.

>>165033471
Yes.

The only card that ever comes out of those fucking Darkness packs is that piece of cancer. Vial'd four already.

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>>165033518
Reminder if you play aggro you are awesome!

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>>165033530
meme

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>>165033530
Dragoncraft is the bro class

>>165033690
>tfw I don't know if I'm gonna dust animated JO crystal

>>165033573
So, basically all i said is valid?

>Lucius
i ran lucius against batshit and otohime
You forgot about Matriarch. She literally kills you because of guards

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Want to add Aurelia, Frontguard General and Bahamut what should i drop?

>Floral Fencer
Still no Teena :¬(

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>>165033576

>>165033690

>try out the roach+gobu
>I fail with it
>I go wolfbolt
>win

Maybe math is too hard for me.

As a fairly new player, I'm curious

How long did it take before (You) waifued it up and bought alternate leader skins?

It seems like pretty much everyone has Forte and Vampy but I need more packs man

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>>165033530
>>165033687
>>165033690
Why are Dragoncraft players so weird?

>>165033593
No, the worst kinds of players are the players who want to win as quickly as possible with as little effort as possible. Might as well not even play the damn game.
Aggro players also love to BM more than anyone else across all card games because they're generally unlikable assholes, and it's especially dickish because they're playing the most brainless archetype in all of card games, with few exceptions like affinity.

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>>165033530
>Lets make a class heavily depend on big cost cards, at the same we give tons of removal for other classes to counter him XDD

So what kind of deck does storm haven fall into? Aggro? Midrange?

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>>165033797
i just bought forte because rowen pisses me off

>>165033630
Quiet down please.

>>165033797
Forte is mandatory, Rowen is the most bland man alive. Urias is completely serviceable though, and it's just a case of the class having 2 good leaders.

>>165033797
I never did because why would I buy stupid cosmetic shit when I can buy 5 packs instead?

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Reminder that 23478 Nep is the best way to play Nep.

Bully all inferior Nep decks.

>>165033868
Tempo

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Rest in peace the first deck i really enjoyed
Time to move on

>>165033758
It's only 30 vials, not even worth it. Save it in case you want to jerk it with your bros.

>>165033806
>thinking it's weird to JO with your bros to charge your pendant in 2018

>>165033786
think you quoted the wrong person

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This dog is fucking pissed and about to tear out your throat. What do you do?

>>165033909
reminder that control shadow is better than nep

bully all inferior shadow decks

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closest game I played since I'm climbing with aggro bat

>>165033997

I don't know why I quoted anyone at all.

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>>165034023
Chain that doggo up

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RAILGUN IS STRIM

I REPEAT

RAILGUN IS STRIM!

>>165034036
I havent seen any Nepless Control Shadow decks. I cant see it being better than Midrange or Aggro though

>>165034092
borat get out

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This card is total bullshit

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>tfw you see a Dariashitter get down to their last card in their hand and it's not Daria
Good
Gooooood

>>165033761
Regardless of Otohime being run or not Midrange dies against control decks unless they opened shit, so matriarch and Lucius doesn't count.
Isn't Hungering horde is a more of a tech or control card, literally never saw it outside T2 and control shadow.
Cyclone blade is a tech, it's not a consistent out, many players don't even run it.

Salamander's breath is valid though the only threat is Ramp Dragon.

And is not like that you will always draw those outs against Otohime, and Otohime herself won't always be drawn or be played.

And the biggest matter is there's just no better alternative to her.

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Aggro Bats are fun but are there other high tier cheap cost decks in other classes?

>>165033819
Just because I'm shitting on your greedy or poorly built garbage doesn't mean I'm playing the game wrong.

>>165034136
You mean it's meh at best? I agree

>>165033997
I already have 3 non animated ones though.
I need 2 dragon wings and 1 more Angelic Barrage and Snipe to complete no creature JO.
I have Aeila and Angelic Snipe Angel as fillers though.
Also have Satan on my side for them epic Dis+1 kill.

>>165033909
yeah I've tried every version and that seems the best. Even with the worst rng possible nep still gets a lich and attendees make the early game way better but it kind of sucks not being able to guarantee khawy or mordecai

>>165034148

Yeah, I forgot I'm running 2. You can absolutely run 3 if you want, but in a slower deck like that Coco and Mimi are there to facilitate trades more often than going face for damage.

>>165033786
I wonder if you could run a wolfbolt/roach hybrid, considering roaches can race with faster decks, and bolts can bypass wards.

>>165034136
only strong in a control v control matchup, horribly weak in anything else

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>>165032584

it's an absolutely adorable card, i only wish she fit any viable deck, would play 10/10, one of my favorite beast girls in swv

These mana resource card games are flawed. It all comes down to who can curve better and there are very few possible moves that you can make.

YuGiOh is the best card game because from turn1 there are like 50+ plays that you could possibly make using a meta deck and the choices that you make weigh heavily based on what you presume your opponent is playing and what they may have in their hand.

>>165034163
With banner dead, most other decks require at least 3x leggos. Storm haven can get by without leggos but it's not so good right now.

>>165034163
Not in this meta. Last meta had storm Haven and banner/aggro Sword.

The cheapest high tier deck after aggro Blood this meta would have to be aggro Forest. It only requires the minimum mandatory 3x Ancient Elf and 3x Roach that every Forest deck does. No other golds or legendaries needed.

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Any suggestions? Nep seems fun.

>>165034260
Then go play Yugioh

>>165034250

That's actually what my deck is.

2 wolf, 2 bolt, 1 homecoming.

>>165034151
>there's just no better alternative to her
yes, that's why it's aggro or control left

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>>165033896
>Urias
>serviceable
Why would you ever use gross Urias when you can use best girl instead

>>165034212
vial a non animated one then, you don't need those 20 extra vials and animated will give you more JO power

>>165034092
Can't stand railgun, he's WAY too fucking loud and angry all the time and his voice is like nails on a fucking chalkboard

>>165033995
our time will come, discardbro

>>165034023
Cerb seems pretty chill, I could probably calm her down with a few headpats.

>>165033797

I have not bought packs in this game with real money.

I have bought Mordecai in this game with real money.

SKELETON MAN

>>165034163
The closest one is Daria with 3 lego and 3 gold

>>165034268
Why people say banner is dead? It still works against aggrobat and some other midrange class.

>>165034287
People are going to hate me for suggesting this, but Daria Rune is at the same price point as well.

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For D-shift, does having 3 Merlins overkill?

I want to buy the Prebuilt Rune deck set but I already have 2 Merlins.

Also between the Forest, Rune, Dragoncraft prebuilt decks, which one has the most value?

>>165034169
Post your rank, faggot.

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>>165033634
Seraph is fine without Eidolon, Tribunal actually loses some of its value with Eidolon, and Aria is not needed in a Seraph deck. Actually in my experience playing with Eidolon Aria was actually a hindrance. You also only named 3 amulets out of the majority which ARE bad and didn't even name the best Haven amulet which is Sacred Plea.

>>165033819
>No, the worst kinds of players are the players who want to win as quickly as possible with as little effort as possible. Might as well not even play the damn game.
The worst players are the scrubs like you who sit on their high horse thinking they're just super intelligent or better for playing subpar horseshit or for not playing certain deck types altogether. You are the dumbass, especially when there's no legitimate reason to flat out refuse to play any particular class or deck in this game with the abundance of resources available. Actually this guy said it best >>165034169, fuck it.

>Affinity isn't braindead
Shut the fuck up

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>>165034339
>Discardbro
>Clearly playing some garbage Blood deck

>>165034294
Drop Necroelementalist/Impious/Pact for 3 Attendants, 2 Necroassassins, and another Tempest.

>>165032485
i don't like it runs no dod, it's an invaluable card to get rid of wards

>>165034332
>dissing based Suwabe
I want Vampyfags to get the fuck out.

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holy shit i would be so mad if this was a nep deck

>>165033797
I bought Forte when I started playing Dragon, and I only started playing Dragon when I had enough cards for it and thus didn't need more packs

>>165034294

>23478

I'm not totally sold on Necroelementist here without Attendant. There isn't much you can hit with a 1 damage AOE.

You need Unica to survive the early aggression. I will opt to replace the widow with her.

>>165034368
it's slower than aggro sword with triple albert isn't it

>>165033819
>because they're generally unlikable assholes
the fact that someone dislikes you, and acts unlikable to you, doesn't mean that in general they're assholes
if you don't comprehend this principle you might have a little 'tism

>>165034325
>control need 4-5 more lego
Aghhh

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>>165034414
>>165034169
>Aggroshitters go straight for personal attacks and hilarious leaps of logic and assumptions with no actual counterargument
As expected.
And affinity back in its Mirrodin prime was agreed upon to be a very hard deck to pilot to its best.

>>165034414

He said Haven had hardly any good amulets, not "hardly any good amulets that synergize with Eidolon"

I agree with the second statement, but that's not what he said

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Why haven't you made a control blood deck yet?

>>165033797

I brought Erasmus for the sole purpose of getting sleeves for my JO dragon.

I was sitting on 9 decks when I did that.

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>>165034410
hi.

>>165034368
Yurius and veight are pretty hard to play against. Midrange they just keep trading followers and by turn 4 you hardly have anything to boost with banner.

>>165034409
probably forest since ancient elf and tia are 2 of the best legendaries in the game while fafnir is kind of meh now that we have bahamut and mythril golem is not played in any decks

>>165034507
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/a/ac/Heavy_jeers09.wav

>>165034589
i dont have the legos!

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>>165033690
Its time to go Imperial

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>Switch to Elana
>Happy days as bat and daria are crushed and control matches have play to them

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>>165034332
i like vampy but urias is cool af and is a based leader

desu when i play vampy i like my opponent to be urias than another vampy :3

>>165034589
What's the point if Beast Dominator isn't meta

>>165034618
I already have 3 tias but only 1 ancient elf.

>>165034163
Not quite as cheap, due to all of them requiring 3 legos, but there's OTK roach, aggro shadow, Dorothy and aggro sword.

It's all various flavors of unga unless you're ready to drop 50k vials or want to become Seraph cancer.

>>165034414
>thinks aggro shitters shutting out decks that take longer than 7 turns to win is good for the game
>argues that the game has an "abundance of resources"
If you weren't a braindead retard before you started playing aggro, you definitely are now.

>>165034409
Forest and Blood come with 2 core legendaries for the classes and some great golds as well, so they're probably the best value.

>>165034589
I'm new to the game and blew all my viials on nep memes

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>>165034639
You could have the legos for only 2000 crystals.

>>165034416
Oh, didn't realize it actually says what you played as.

>>165034603
>plays aggro all day long
>still at the bottom of the non-shitter ranks
Wow, very talented.

>>165034686
control blood occasionally uses sadistic night to summon her.

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>>165034416
I will still play Bats because all the fucking 1 damage ping, Vampy and Fortress explosion are FUN
But now i stopped gave any fuck and went Glory

>>165034732
i bought the new year's deal and got 1 blood deck and i'm debating spending more money! im not really sure if i should though!

>>165034643
Wouldn't you still get screwed since he's left with 1 hp and you have no cards in hand and a pissed off bahamut in front of you??

>>165034702
>decks that take longer than 7 turns to win

In my experience, those are the decks I have the EASIEST time beating aggro with. Any deck meant to win in the late-game typically has a tonne of cards to facilitate that and keep them alive. Shit, Seraph is Daria's worse matchup at 45% in favor of Daria. The current aggro meta shits on mid-range more than anything else, since the aggro vs. aggro matchup is pretty particular to the two decks involved.

>>165034810
Go brush your teeth, you seem heated for little to no reason.

>>165034732
>>165034589
WHERE ARE THE SCANS

>>165033764
>Teena

Why? Teena is shit compared to Floral.

Also drop the Blitz Lancers. There's no situation where Novice Trooper wouldn't be infinitely better than Blitz.

>>165034837
yes I lost that game
too bad Wildfang will kill you before doing damage unlike Imperial otherwise i would just Forte face > Wildfang > Shuffle

>>165034881
Yurius laughs at Novice.
Blitz rapes Yurius.

Fucking 1/3.

>>165034643
that lethal gave me shivers

>>165034694
It honestly just depends what other cards you have and what you want to play then. You probably don't need a 3rd merlin though since Dshit often just plays 2, so I'd go with dragon or forest. Forest has better decks right now than dragon though.

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>got into the new thread
>it's suddenly aggro vs control flamewar

I switch around both depending on the mood or when I want to try something out. Generally I prefer control/midrange because it doesn't need to rely on a 1-2-3 curve.

>>165033764
Is this control?
You need a lot more legend.

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>>165034643
I have a question about wildfang + imperal dragoon when you are about to deck out with dragonmancer eite on board.

If you use dragon emmisary and got imperal dragoon to 8pp then wait til 10p to use both 2pp wildfang and imperal dragoon. Assuming their is hp is above 10hp but its lethal for wildfang.

Does it go imperal dragoon dmg --> wildfang dmg --> dragomancer rite draw

Or

Imperal dragoon --> dragonmancer rite --> die from deck out --> wildfang dmg?

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>tfw didn't get cute princess until a couple days before RoB was released
Will she ever be great again swordbros? Do any of you still keep her in your deck or have you all parted ways with her?

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>>165034578
That "He" was me, and while Eidolon is my favorite legendary from RoB, I quickly learned that a lot of Haven amulets just aren't that good and that I'm better off just running a straightforward Seraph. What I want most for Haven right now is to have more impactful amulets, especially ones that synergize with Eidolon. Devourer of Heavens is neat but it's just not a very good card.

>>165034574
As if you didn't do the same.

>>165034702
>Card games should only be these 20 turn odysseys
Yeah no, a variety of playstyles is better, some like it fast, some like it slow. For the record Seraph shits on Aggro.

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>>165034953
i'm by my nature an aggro player, grrr!

i want to overcome my opponent asap so the uncertainty who wins ended asap

>>165034881
Blitz Lancer is good as a tech against Yurius.

>>165034589
It's the most exensive deck in the game currenty and it's not even that good.

I want to play it though.

>>165034924
Wait wouldn't wildfang forte altered fate be lethal?

>>165035038
Imperial will do immediate damage
so you can use him to lethal the other guy even if you have no card left

but Wildfang will do damage last after everyone is done

so
Imperal dragoon --> dragonmancer rite --> die from deck out --> wildfang dmg?

>>165034596
erasmus is cooler than the titty monster though

>>165035135
Wildfang draws before damage

>>165034589
Seems boring to climb with. Already got aggro bats for dailies. Should probably be spending my vials on making sure my other daily decks are less painful to play with.

>>165034934
>Yurius
>Everything in your deck except for maids and knight tokens has at least 2 def.

Teching 3 useless cards to deal with one card that's easy to remove is a terrible idea.

>>165035049
In my midrange I use 3x albert/aurelia/otohime/sage. Maybe thinking of cutting 1 sage to get 3x alwida.

>deck I like playing the most is Ramp Dragon
>face nothing but Lunacraft in ranked
How long until the next expansion?

>>165035183
Oh whoops, didn't see the deck count. FeelsDiscardDragonMan.avi

>>165033764
Fuck teena and floral, use amelia and monika. Amelia and monika aren't deads card if you go first.

>>165035210
I like cutting 1 Otohime more, sage is more versatile.

>>165034953
>because it doesn't need to rely on a 1-2-3 curve.
I wasn't even arguing aggro v control.
I hate aggro because I feel like it makes card games about their worst element: luck. The games are so fast and aggro decks are so fragile that it comes down more to how well both player draws rather than skill. With other archetypes you have time to dig through your deck and draw cards to find what you need, so while luck is still a part of it there's less of an impact. But with aggro, if they curve out and you don't have your anti-aggro cards by turns 2~3, you just fucking lose, and it's not fun at all.
But at the same time if an aggro player doesn't curve they'll probably lose. So the whole thing is just this battle of who can draw better in the first few turns. Not to mention the major advantage aggro gets by going first. And before you talk about evos, I'm speaking in general for all ccgs. Though I especially hate aggro in SV because your health is so low and there's no blockers that it feels like, unless you're playing Elana, it's impossible to stabilize if you have a bad start.

>mfw I unpacked Animated Daria but vialed her because I was being an edgy Shadowcraft main.

I want to fucking kill myself.

>>165034643
>altered fate
Please tell me that retards like this is why discard dragon has such a low winrate and that it's actually viable when played right.

>>165035001
>tfw Control Sword now need
2-3 Aurelia
1-2 Tsubaki
1-2 Otohime
2-3 Albert
1-2 Alex
1-2 Odin
1-2 Olivia
1-2 Bahamut

like half of your deck are legendary

>>165035182

That's also another reason why I got him, it's just I don't any rune decks, at all.

That staff twirl when he evos, though.

>>165035248
3 odins and 2 confl

>>165035340
You really don't need Otohime or Bahamut.
In fact I wouldn't run either of those.

>>165034409
Is it overkill or not pls respond

>>165035340
>Bahamut
They started running this guy too? Fucking hell.
>tfw no Odin and Alex

>>165035248
3 month.

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>inb4 i wasted 7k vials when i should have sticked to Aggro

>>165035196
>rush
>useless
This is why people think mid sword is dead. They don't understand why rush is good.

>>165034409
Overkill, you only need 2.
Forest and Sword has the most value.

>>165035424
should have popped a tribunal m8

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>Haven plays seraph
>Just as my D-shift cards align

>>165035497
oh right, there i was more retard than usual

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>>165034036
post deck please

>>165034732
>manage to get 1500 crystals from selling shit on Steam
>have my eyes on shadow and sword decks because of the alt art
>sword has shit value
>shadow has barely passable value
>forest has really good value
>blood value is through the roof if you're considering control blood
h-help

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>>165033909

>23478

2678 here, and I will say I am doing here myself.

>>165035434
Rush is good.

Rush on a 3/2 played on curve when just about everything on the board is a 2/2 or 2/1 means that you're only fucking yourself with a terrible trade.

Applying pressure would be a better move 95% of the time.

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>>165035210
Could you post dick if not too much trouble? Does otohime help you as much as she used to or no?

>>165035301
>unpack a fucking Levi
>vial him because I was an edgy cobtrol payer that thaught going face was gay

Let's die together anon.

>>165035639
>with a terrible trade.

It's literally no different from a removal spell except it happens to live on occasion.

>>165035563
>>sword has shit value
Stop this meme.

>>165035649
Levi goes in D-shift as well, you dumb nignog.

>>165035614
Why is your deck leaning completely on Nep as a wincon and only running 2 of them?

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>>165035434
Hell that's why people shit on Sarissa too. She's actually a pretty serviceable card.

>>165035291
That's a pretty asinine outlook because luck is unavoidable. Sometimes you lose because you didn't get what you needed, be it a long or slow game. A lot of the "skill" in card games comes in deck building, metagame analysis, and just making the best of what you've got. Aggro decks are built in a way to ensure that they win fast on a consistent basis, just like slower decks are built so ensure that they can get to their respective win conditions on a slower basis. There is fucking nothing wrong with aggro, or any deck type in particular. A lot of people like aggro not only because they tend to be more affordable decks, but because yes, the games are fast. This allows them to get their fix in a shorter period of time, especially if they don't have much time to spare. Some people just don't like 20 turn games, it's exhausting.

>>165035649
>Vial an amazing control card because you play control
I don't understand.

>>165035563
>>>shadow has barely passable value

Shadow gives you most every standard and DE card worth a damn

>>165035639
>Applying pressure would be a better move 95% of the time.
This is exactly what rush does. You can clear followers with a follower you just placed on the board and use the rest to pressure face. Doesn't matter if you traded down, because you still come out on top by removing one of their followers while going face with the rest.

>>165035291
>I hate aggro because I feel like it makes card games about their worst element: luck
because draw-go for 10 minutes while we figure out where in our respective decks seraph/odin ended up post-shuffle is so much better, right
odin/seraph is the most extreme example but in general it's the same way for any threat/answer pairing in control mirrors
card games are always degenerate when you look at them closely enough

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>>165035301
>>165035649
>unpack an animated nep
>don't vial her because I'm a shadow player
Sucks to be you fags

>>165035649
>Levi
>Face
Just because Levi is in Tempo Rune doesn't mean Levi is a face card you retard. Levi is a staple in every single Rune deck ever made because Levi is fucking broken as hell.

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98096 for a concede, please

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>>165034618
>mythril golem not played in any decks
what is it like to be shit at games?

Whoever ok'd Khawhy to be a Silver Card should be shot.

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>>165033630
bellringer, i always knew you were my best friend!

>>165035846
>Whoever ok'd Khawhy to be a Silver Card should be shot.
Oh yeah, well I'M TAKING YOU WITH ME

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>Playing Aggro Bloof
>get countered
>craft Seraph
>get Odined or outaggored
I can't get out of this shit

>>165035846
The rarity doesn't matter anon, even if he was legendary all the whales would just craft 3 of him.
Fuck anyone saving vials and gold for the expansion would have crafted 3 of him if they play shadow.

>>165035846
Stay shit, unga player.

>>165035741
Yes but no archetype pushes the luck factor as far as aggro does due to the short nature of the games, except maybe combo. Since you get to see less cards, what you draw becomes far more important. Aggro is also popular because it's really easy to win with due to this fact: aggro is just way more about luck than it is skill more than any other deck type due to the very nature

>>165035846
t: whale

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>>165035642
She's more of a removal bait, if not removed a sage will tends to finish games. I haven't matriarch'd yet so I don't know how hard she get fucked by it.

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>dshift in unranked

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Vampy is never going to get fucked when this is who she is around all the time.

>>165035889

Just play elf, and roach combo.

people act like it's hard math, it's really not

Just drop your units until you're about to run out of room or pp required for your roaches to do maximum damage, they'll usually get there.

>>165035846

Like that would do anything to decrease how many you see.

You have idiots running around in D-rank with full Daria netdecks

>>165035639
It's a more terrible trade losing more 1 hp creatures trying to remove him at early turn.

>Daria out aggroes aggro decks
>Daria beats midrange
>Daria kills late game decks before they can do anything
When will this shit be nerfed?

>>165035928
Even combo usually has methods to extend games and draw deep

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>>165035939
aww, forgot to add the pic of you

on a side note, it's a pity such a cool card sees no play

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>>165036026
Git gud.

>>165035739

Because having 6 8PP can mean bricktown, but reducing the number of morde is a bad idea either.

I'm currently comfortable with this 2 nep, but I can put in another one by taking out balor.

>>165035846
If this isn't an arena complaint, you're an idiot.
If it is, there's way worse things than that. Why the fuck does Sword continue to get really strong commons every expansion? Did Avant really need to be a common? Did Samurai? Fucking christ Cygames.

http://usamin.love/card/unicorn_dancer_unica/j_effect.wav

what packs should I buy if i want control blood or storm haven

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>>165036006
I played some of it in unranked, doesn't look much reliable
Only know in the last 2 days i lost near 5k points though, was close to A3 and now i am back to A1 basically

>>165036026
>Shitters cry about daria
>Decide to try it out
>The deck is extremely draw dependent and can often get starved or flooded.
Just like playing with magic lands desu.

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I guard Otohymen!

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>>165036115
Our last line of defense against the degeneracy.

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>>165035321
>alter fate
>bad

Nice meme

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>>165035846

>hating on Kawaii

But he's cute.

>>165036135

It's not inconsistent enough to make it have a negative win/loss against anything that isn't Haven, so maybe that inconsistency isn't much of a factor at all

>>165036127
If you want control blood, you should buy the premade deck for sure, then standard. The Control Blood value you get from that deck is nuts.
Storm Haven you want DE.

>>165035803
Now I know.
That's why you don't vial anything when being a new shitter.
At least I was smart enough to vial only a Levi and Soul Dealer until now.
Only one of the two was usable.

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>>165036026
Seraph shits on Daria unless you're one of those retards that keeps Themis Decrees in his opening hand instead of mulling them.

>when you draft 3 soul collectors in take two

haha, the late game is mine. unless you face shadow. which i did, 4 times. where the hell did all the swords go? why are 3-0 bosses always the hardest?

>>165036135
>a deck with ever card being high value because lol spellboost is draw dependent
Impossible unless you made a shitty deck on purpose

>>165036050
Island Whale is amazing in arena, and if you've ramped at all he's the king of turn 5

>>165036127
>Storm

Mostly DE though they got a few nice tools in RoB.

>Control Blood

Mostly standard with Bloody Mary and Vampy being in DE. Consider getting the premade too, it has 1 of basically every core Control Blood card.

>>165036217
>Go up against seraph with Daria
>Shitting all over him
>Hand bricks out at turn 7
>I draw into both remaining Darias with no way to spell boost them to get one out the next turn.
>Straight pass for 2 turns
>Lose because he drops seraph and I'm two turns behind.
I could feel the enforced balance.

>Win 500 points start of the day
>Lose 600 points by the end of night
I literally CAN'T CLIMB

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if you give me a little health i'll make you feel really good

Whats a good deck that runs alot of Ward followers?

>>165036265
>You can control when you draw your Darias
Are you a hearthshitter? Because this is a hearthshitter meme.

>>165035684
Nothing for aggro.
5k discount on a 45k deck for control.
Can't check for midrange because no one fucking talks about midrange anymore.

>>165035749
3.5k discount for aggro
5k discount for midrange
2.4 discount for nephthys
I guess it's good for that midrange deck that uses LotF, but haven't heard anyone suggest that it's worth it.

Forest and blood wins just for having at least one clearly viable deck that uses both legos.

Oh yeah, I'm leaving out silvers and bronze, since I have all of them.

>>165036346
Is there a worse feeling that having your Dire Bond destroyed?
>3pp deal 6 to your face
>>165036360
Control Sword is ward city.

>>165036360
Not sure about good, but Control Shadow and Guardian Sun Haven

>>165036346
>me on the right

>>165036360
Control Sword is like 60% wards and 20% rush at this point.

Dirtrune also cranks out wards like a factory.

>>165036412
Saying a deck is a draw dependent is moot. Of course you will lose if you brick.
But the fact that Daria can lose ONLY when it bricks is ridiculous.

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This is your Forte for tonight.

>>165036452
>dirtrune
>here's a guardian golem
>here's another fucking guardian golem
>sick of guardian golem, here's a couple of them more

Dirt rune is at least fun to fight with.

>>165036185
>that one time in the history of SV that someone somehow allowed 2 wildfangs to stay on the board
that ramping faggot deserved it

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>Literally losing because I went second
Shit happens

>>165036321
Too bad, so sad. You do fine against most other things so one losing matchup isn't a big deal really.

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Does anyone have a good and tested pure control blood list? The one I've been using (pic related) has been working well but is more midrange and doesn't have a whole lot of heal.

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What rank are you, /svg/?

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I was always worried this day would come.

>>165036203
>>165036287
Not really interested in spending money on the game just yet, especially on that pack since I have a Bloody Mary.

So I pretty much just want Standard packs? Do I only want DE packs for Mary since I already have 3 Vampies?

>>165036623
Shitty D1 rank since I'm too lazy to climb. Just enjoy my dailies in unranked.

>>165036517
tits too small

>>165036623
A3
tfw too intelligent to climb

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>>165036573

>he doesn't run odin to fuck himself up

Silly hagfag, you cannot even trust yourself.

>>165036659
How's DShift Daria working for you?

>>165036619
That's basically what people run nowadays. If you wanna go full control cut out Yurus and add another Queen and a Blood Pact
>>165036623
AA2.

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57631 a concede please

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>>165036623
AA1

>ptp eidolon haven
this is probably the most humiliating thing i've ever lost to

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>>165036623
A2, was really close to A3 until everything started to kill my bats and ragecrafted 2 Seraph leaving me with 1k vials left
Grinding down people with Seraph doesn't look that bad though, should learn to play it, more fun than StormHaven atleast

>>165036660
Probably focus on Standard and craft more Bloody Maries if you want them then, yeah.

>>165036716
He didn't have themis on hand, so fucking great.

I only have one dorothy though, so that was the first time I had to make a choice like that.

>>165036759
>PtP Eidolon
Now there's some synergy

the most cancerous thing about daria deck is that annoying fucking piece shit levi and piercing rune. there was this daria i played against i wiped all their follower and set up wards before they could attack and they lethal me with just the burn damage alone fucking hell im still mad my ass is on fire

>>165036790
All in all can you say Daria fits in there?

>>165036759
I lost to JO dragon once while doing dailies in unranked

>>165036736
Is there any room for Alucard? list feels sort of lacking in healing and turn 9 is a bit late for temptress vampire

>>165036517
tits too big

>>165036660
odin, dark angel olivia, unicorn dancer unico, and vampiric kiss are the only possibly relevant things out of DE other than vampy
but one of those is a silver and one of them is a bronze, so it's not really a huge draw to keep cracking packs
if you want to play control blood you should 100% ram standard packs, I usually dislike the new player advice "buy standard packs" because IMO it underestimates the amount of trash their is, but there are so many relevant bloodcraft golds in standard, i started before DE and i still haven't unpacked 3x all of them (though 2bf i dont take 2)

>>165036747
anyone? pls respond

>>165036691
But I do run Odin, I only have one however.

>>165036835
If you have only one of them, maybe. Dorothy fucks up d-shift too hard.

>>165035960
>veteran lancer

lol

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Will she ever be a good card?

>>165036954
That's what I'm thinking. And yet I heard the JP people are actually complaining about that deck.

>>165036816
Make it so piercing rune doesn't reduce cost. Keep it at 4, or perhaps lower it to 3. As a Daria player, it is ridiculous. Though if they nerf it too much, players will just use demonic strike instead.

>>165036976
WHERE
THE FUCK
ARE
THE SCANS?

>>165036970

>doesn't like veteran

I'm sorry that you don't like the idea of cock-blocking early game aggression from aggro

>>165036917
Thank you, Ebola-chan!

>>165036835
Not that anon but I've been trying it out and it's pretty fun. While Daria can fuck you over sometimes she can also save your ass and do some crazy shit. Slamming Daria the turn you DShift can lead to some hilarity, and just as a 0 cost 5/5 Daria melds better with DShift than you might expect.

>>165036993
that piece of shit degenerate actually teched demonic strike also

>>165036976
when she learns to drink wine right and stop raping men

>>165034332
>he's WAY too fucking loud and angry all the time and his voice is like nails on a fucking chalkboard
What did you expect? He's from Kazakhstan
Literally Borat

>>165036816
there is literally nothing unbalanced about 15 to face for 6 mana

>>165036992
They probably complain more about the Oglers and Blade Mage in DShift

>>165035301
>unpacked 3 neps
>vialed all of them because I don't play shadow and i want to craft 3 albert
>not feeling any regret until now

Feels good.

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>>165036976

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>>165036816
I almost thought you were this guy until you said he used Levi.

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>Trying to keep the board clear so I can drop Seraph without eating shit in the following turn
>Eventually it becomes too much to bear
>Drop Seraph and use Dogma out of curiosity
>Draw Odin
Fuck you too game

So what's there to do once you hit Master? What's the benefit? Any perks?

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>>165036976
i have two animated beast dominators. i'm tempted to vial them

Is there really nothing better than the 23478 Nep? Kind of annoying you aren't guaranteed your mord/khawy, but it seems you need to run this version to survive the early game.

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Is Aggro Sword fine with 2 Albert?

>>165036806
>only way to win is to hope your opponent leaves your Eidolon alone long enough for it to be useful, but plays removal when you get close to 30 shadows
>or to save up your themis until you know you don't need to stall anymore

If I lost to it, I'd take comfort in the fact that the guy must have had far more frustrating games on average.

>>165037189
You can post your rank in the thread so all your opinions become automatically correct

FUCK CLIMBING
STUCK AT A0 FOR 2 DAYS NOW. I HAVENT MADE ANY PROGRESS AT ALL. EVEN WHEN I DO, I LOSE ALL MY POINTS. It's TOO FUCKING HARD WITHOUT THE WINRATE BONUS

>>165037189
being able to do your daily in ranked and occasional master reward.

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If you cannot climb ranking by slurping roach semen you are literally retarded

>>165036787
>>165036910
Thanks for the help, since I have most of the DE cards I'll just go for Standard. I'll focus on other decks later.
Maybe I will get that prebuilt deck since I have the half priced 600 gems thing.

Also is this website good for looking up what cards I need?
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/appmedia-control-bloodcraft

>>165037191
Vial them. Card is sexy but terrible, especially now that we have sadistic night

>>165037229
Until Bats or Daria leaves the meta I dont feel comfortable running any other variation.

Need help with the private match daily.
97483

>>165037294
POST YOUR DECK CODE FAGGOT

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>>165036838

Anon, losing to a T0 deck isn't something to be ashamed about. Even if you were running JO yourself, that'd just be a mirror match.

>>165037249
You need to git gud if you can't get past A0. What are you climbing with?

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>>165037232
2 is ok but you need 3 to increase your chance drawing and playing him on curve.

>>165037249
Just spam daria

How come sword doesnt use alexander anymore? Is he shit now? I thought he was still good unless cyclone blade is better i guess?

>>165037229

Mind show me your deck? I'm going with 2678 here myself. >>165035614

>>165037247
This hurts to read because I'm sure there are some baddiefucks in AA/Master that post in this thread and do exactly that even though it probably took them tons of games due to lack of consistent wins.

>>165036759
>tfw lost to ptp Blood mary deck
I didnt know how much bats they can shit out in 2 turns

>>165037249
if you cant get at least 50% winrate you belong there

>>165037393
Alexander is just a shittier Bahamut.

>>165037393
I still see lists with him

>>165037491
I really really want to vial Alexander because I have fucking 3 of them. Goddamn.

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He didn't even know.

>>165037393
8 mana half assed clear in this meta? The card is dead for good, unless they stop making the game 2 turns shorter each expansion.

>>165037249
If you're able to get winrate bonuses anyway, you should not be having a problem to begin with. But hey blame the game instead of accepting your own shortcomings.

>>165037447
>consistent wins
Isn't it dependant on who you get matched up with and your card draws?
It doesn't matter if you're a good player if you get constantly matched up against decks that counter your deck no?
How many matches do you have to reach masters by to be considered good?

>>165037385
Daria isn't good. It's not consistent enough and I run into a lot of control.
>>165037383
I'm climbing with all my decks, stormhaven, roach, dshift, ptp, seraph haven, aggro bats. The people i'm playing with aren't even fucking good. I'm losing purely on bad draws

>>165037543

>10 years from now control will try to achieve it's wincon on t3

>>165037649
I can't wait for vintage style combos in SV with no counters

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>>165037641
>The people i'm playing with aren't even fucking good
>I'm losing purely on bad draws

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>>165037434
Not him, but heres the 23478 version I run with.

Feel free to drop Lyrials for whatever you prefer in that slot.

>>165037393
Khawy powercreeped him

>>165037083
Dorothy with extra face spells is the new hot shit.
http://game-ai.jp/22315/
Even a full board doesn't do you much good if you get boardwiped before you can go face. So they realized they can just save up some fireballs and runes if you anticipate a board wipe, put in some demon strikes, and easily finish off that last 10 HP without playing a single follower.

>>165037640
Reading the meta and making choices dependant on that is hard. I didn't say win every game, either.

>>165037681

I just want to see a showcasing of a nexus format where cards aren't limited to one craft. Even if it'd be too unbalanced for players to use in the actual game, something like a stream to show off just how crazy it can get would be cool.

>>165037707
>play aggro bats
>get implancer, night horde and demonic storm
Rank wasn't this cancer and I'm climbed purely with dshift prior hitting this rank. Seems like I can't adapt

>>165037383
Stop switching decks. Most of those decks are hard to play so stick with one or two and master them.

>>165037641
if you're consistently losing to bad draws there may be a problem there

>>165037747
That looks exactly like my daria deck except i run 2 fates and 3 clarkes

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Leader mods?

>>165037776
So what's a good number of wins to hit masters by?

>>165037640
it doesn't matter how many wins it takes you, you can't do it unless you maintain a >50% winrate against other masters players for an extended amount of time

>>165037882
~1k?

>>165037981
So basically anyone who hits masters is good?

>>165037998
well yeah? starting from AA2 you can get matched with anyone from the top 100 Masters, you don't climb there without being at least decent at the game

>>165036623
master since i've been playing since before darkness

>>165037998
Yes. You can't hit Master's without an above 50% winrate for an extended period of time, and by the time you get to the upper AA ranks you get matched with a lot of Master's players

>>165037712
Same deck but sexton instead of lylia. has saved me before from haven. also good vs dirtrune in the rare event i face that.

>>165037998
>tfw sitting in AA basically only doing dailies and consistently beating master players I get matched against because they run bog standard meta decks while I play counters to meta decks

>>165038074
this isn't true, you gain 100-150 for winning and lose 70-100 for losing

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>Idiot with 14 HP left uses his evolved Vania to kill my Dark Conjurer instead of Rabbit Necromancer before my evolve turn.
I hope keeping that stupid Vampire slut alive was worth him eating shit after.

Are 3 Erasmus safe to liquefy?

>>165038183
go away nerfie

>>165038185
Pretty much. Considering there's a gold spell that just summons him on enhance.

>>165038164
you gain >100 and lose 70 if you win against a player with >3k points than you

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>>165038185
>using Erasmus
>Year 1 of Our Lord Daria the Dimension God

>>165037870
I always feel that my losses as aggro are due to bad draws, but I figure that's just how aggro works. It's all about keeping the pressure up from turn 1 until you win, and your draws determine how much pressure you can put up.

Maybe I should play a deck that involves more decision making.

>>165037998
Anyone who hits masters is good at playing at least one deck. Whether explicitly or implicitly, they are well-informed about the matchups that involve that deck from both sides of the matchup. and have the fundamental game skills that were necessary to gain that expertise. This does not, however, automatically translate to being good at unfamiliar parts of the game, especially if they climbed with aggro.

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I got bored of ranked and I decided to do some arena. First 5-0 since RoB, yay.

Call of Cocytus is completely busted in arena.

>>165038185
erasmus, beast dom and pluto are free vials

>>165038331
>especially if they climbed with aggro.

climbing with aggro takes more skill than climbing with a deck full of clutches like themis, tia, otohime etc

>>165038336
This is why I hate Arena, Even in HS.

If you get some good legos and no removal its just a waste of time.

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>>165038439

>>165037249
I know that feel. It jusst take a lot more grinding because you get moreget more for a win than you lose.

Just started playing this game today, and its pretty fun. Whats a good card class for beginners?

I just reached C0.
Am I still a shitter?

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>>165038218
No, Vania is ugly

>>165038368

Pluto -arguably- and I mean super fucking arguably can have a spot in certain pure control lists.

Nethergod's 4 health limitation means that there is that tiny lack of overlap that can justify Pluto existing

but
>non-cerb shadow leggos
>good

>>165038493
aggro blood is cheap and very powerful. can learn the game and satisfy rewards with it.

>>165038493
sword or bat. Requires no thinking. If you want to test your feeble mind, I suggest forest or shadow

>>165038497
yes

>>165036414
Midsword:
3 Aurelia
1-2 Tsubaki
2-3 Otohime
2-3 Albert