/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

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bracing for disappointment

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>raw OpenGL

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>>164897765
>> Engines
>tools.aggydaggy.com/engines
>> Models/art/textures/sprites
>opengameart.org | blender-models.com | mayang.com/textures
>> Free audio
>freesound.org/browse | incompetech.com/music | freemusicarchive.org

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make good games

I want to play the cooking game, the medieval mecha game, the squad RTS game, some others that I forgot!

>>164898012
It's obviously not important to you, else you would have created a thread with the correct OP at 750.

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DD XII Reminder:
- Name all your shit the same. Let the game, the exe, the zip, the game page share the same name
- Zip the folder, not the files
- No installers!
- If it's not your game's first Demo Day, let us know what you've progressed, so we can bug test what's new

>tripfag OP shitposting
Filtered.

>tfw you literally copy and paste code and it doesn't work

>>164897765
>May God have mercy with us, because the tierlist won't
My hype is ready, the tierposters is the only opinion that conveys true brutal AGDG-style feedback anymore

>>164898443
That's not really surprising.

>>164898516
Fuggiest bug I ever encountered was text being presented in a Blackboard style online classroom webapp, and the code to copy was converted somehow so quotes became something that looked like quotes but wasn't recognized by the IDE as such.

>>164898516
>tierposters
What? I can only recall one or two from the past DDs. It doesn't seem to be a thing.

>>164898687
>It doesn't seem to be a thing.
>tierlists
>not a thing in agdg
Tierlists are the essence of agdg feedback. That they have receded to only demo days is a shame. We need tierposters to post more often.

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>>164892960
definitely a cartoon of a frog

>>164893617
she does have shadows but it's pretty subtle. does .4 look better?

>>164898687
>tierposter's opinion
seeing your game improve in an anonymous strangers eyes is a very motivating feel

normally it'd be bad to put any kind of weight on one persons opinion over anyone elses because muh imageboard culture, but since anyone can post their personal tiers, its at least some kind of feedback beyond seeing your download count tick up

>>164898878
Why does she have a "what I've seen could kill lesser men" look on the 3rd?

https://hastebin.com/oqekalizir.cs

Can someone explain to me what's wrong with this script for a Character Controller in Unity?

I'm having difficulty rotating a camera around this object whilst having this object move relative to the camera's rotation. It just starts spazzing out.

>>164899064
Thats a nice way to share code

>>164899064
There's a feedback loop of some kind, so knowing only the controller code won't help. The camera code is needed too.

Have you first tried both the camera and the controller separately, to verify that the problem is in the interaction, and not just un one of the components?

>>164899427
2pretentious4me

He should have typed it out, like any other beginner

>>164899005
DRAMATIC SHADOWS

>>164898359
>- No installers!

What do you suggest with a Unity based project? Standalone exec?

>>164899630
Ah shit yeah I should've provided the Camera code.

https://hastebin.com/izedezubed.cs

The controller runs fine (aside from some minor problems like falling on slopes but that's easily fixable)
When I activate the camera code all hell breaks loose.

I'd just like to have a rotatable camera with the player moving relative to the camera's orientation but I feel as if I'm going about this the wrong way.

>>164900207
I can't help you today because DD, but if you're still stuck on this later, I'll look into it.

Unity also has the new collab feature, testing in situ is much easier, if you can trust someone not to fuck up your project.

>>164900438
Just a little playground/testing project atm so I can get more comfortable with the project so I don't really mind sharing any of the files.

>>164898878
I don't know, maybe it's the mouth that makes it look flat. The higher opacity shadow certainly helps though.

>tfw you see a drawing of a character being sad and it makes you sad

empathy is shit

>>164898516
>>164898851
>trying this hard to validate your shitty tier list feedback
If only you put this kind of effort into making a game instead

>>164900861
t. shit-tier

>>164900705
ok, I really am down to help you code this but, demo day! post again in a few days

>>164900752
It's what makes us human

I'm ready for people to ignore my game and call it a walking simulator!

>>164898878
Hey Tracy dev, can you give your little frog a chance to say

>Kero kero
>(I'm practicing my Japanese)

>>164897765
>May God have mercy with us, because the tierlist won't.
Fuck "the" tierlist no single feedback posting anon here should feel that they are somehow an official rating just because they make some gay little photoshop collage.

>>164900207
>>164899064
Alright it's been a while since I've used Unity, but pray tell are you in the same coordinate space everywhere? Like you tell the camera to LookAt the player, but the player's transform is local?

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Added some effects to make it a little more visible what's actually happening. Mouse over makes the piece you're over and the pieces you can effect wiggle, clicking sends out a pulse that flips the pieces. Link for sound.

https://a.uguu.se/mskJ62zQVUlU_understand.webm

>>164897765
there have been no memetastic tierlists for like 2 demodays now
give it a break

>>164898878
I don't like the shading.
.1 or maybe .2 would be fine.

>>164901312
I believe so. How would I check so I can confirm this?

Fuck it, if I'm gonna make an AGDG 12 banner, I need a recap of all of the characters. There better damn be 12 of them.

>>164901959
>all of the characters. There better damn be 12 of them
Who is eligible?

>>164901334
I think it's safe to say there's going to be one with all this shilling for it

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>>164901137
-> YES.txt

I'm definitely going to have contextual and random dialogue, this is a good one

>>164901723
yeah, I textured her with unlit style in mind, so it makes sense. the game used to look like this

>>164901959
>I need a recap of all of the characters
The thing hasn't even started yet. We don't know yet what characters it'll have.

>>164901959
>12
Try 48

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>game doesn't have a web player
NEXT

Set my alarm early tomorrow in order to play all of the demoday 12 games and give feedback (ﾉヮ)ﾉ*:・ﾟ

>game is not advanced enough for a demo
>need to take a break from it anyway
Now's a good opportunity to use the DD deadline as a personal jam and try to make a side jam demo before it ends.

What's a good way to hide or otherwise wrap the
SDL_PollEvent(&event) code you see in tutorial (like lazyfoo)?

Should I create various Event classes that correspond with whatever I'm concerned with? Like Keyboard_Event, Window_Event and deal with those in some sort of Event_Handler?

The main thing is that I don't want a loop with bare SDL calls in my main game loop. I want something more like:
events.update()
keyboard.update(events)
mouse.update(events)
gamepads.update(events)

Or something where on a per-frame basis "events" or equivalent is updated with all SDL events from that frame, which are then passed to the various handlers for types of input (mouse, keyboard, etc). This is to capture all info I need in nice little contained classes.

Does this approach seem reasonable or could someone give some advice here please?

>Get running in a day with gamemaker what took me 3 with monogame

Hmmm... on the one hand, I'm not a real programmer if I use gamemaker. On the other hand I get to make a game while working a full-time job. Choices.

>>164903198
The other systems shouldn't know about the concrete inputs. They should just take abstract inputs, i.e. what you get after applying bindings, sensitivity, etc.

Also realize that very few systems need input at all, just the UI and the player, really.

>>164903261
That's not a choice. That's choosing between being hip and making progress. If the engine you're using doesn't work well with the game you're making, and another engine does, use that engine.

Ignore idiots who tell you X engine is universally bad if it works fantastic for the game you're making.

>>164903261
>I'm not a real programmer
Who cares?

All non agdg programmers are rich while proud engine programmers have no games.

>>164903563
>>164903586
The only reason I care is because I'm a full-time developer and programming a game engine along with the game seems like a good way to brush up on skills and concepts I might not necessarily run in to during my job, keeping me sharp in an industry where the weak toil away for peanuts and get stepped over.

>>164903453
Oh yes, I know. This is just the first stage of input. These classes capture the state of the input at that frame (Mouse has a position, an is_down bool, etc, Keyboard has an array of bools for all keys). These would be fed through another stage that takes that info and processes it a bit more (turns the current "is_down" into a "was_pressed"/"was_released".
At some point this will tie in with the abstract input (run, jump, etc).

For the time being I'm worried about this and getting rid of an ugly loop with swtich statement from the middle of my main game loop.

>>164903732
If you're doing it for your portfolio, do it for your portfolio. If you're doing it to make a game, do whatever makes that game fastest and most efficiently.

A full game tends to look better than a tech demo on a portfolio -- unless you're demonstrating something that's not very often seen.

After all, I'm going to be far more impressed if you shipped a game that you made over having a bunch of tech demos but no actual shipped-games to show fo rit.

>>164903732
>The only reason I care is because I'm a full-time developer
>an industry where the weak toil away for peanuts
This is why I just work in corporate America and make games on the side. You could be earning twice as much working half as hard, and have enough money to dev whatever you want.

>>164903586
>All non agdg programmers are rich
Who besides hopoo has ever gotten rich here? 50k in sales is not rich.

>>164904000
I personally didn't get rich, but our games did make enough money that the studio stayed open for eight and a half years with everybody involved getting paid salary and us being able to contract out for essentials when needed. Even had a marketing budget to play with on our second game.

>>164903849
Even if that game uses a pre-made engine? I don't necessarily care about a portfolio, my job allows me to pad my resume with some really noteworthy things by itself, and my github is up-to-date with my own smaller personal projects and PRs to open source projects. If having a shipped product is a huge plus even if it's not built with a more low level framework, then that's another big pro to switching to an engine and probably the decider for me.

>>164903932
Peanuts is a relative term :^) I always want more.

>>164904000
I don't want to make a game for the money. I want to learn, but I want to learn about more than just programming. The entire process of creating and releasing a product is something I also want to learn. Besides even if 50k isn't rich it'd kill my student debt hurr.

>>164904203
>Even if that game uses a pre-made engine?

I will only care if you're applying to be an engine dev. Granted, that is also one of the highest paying positions in game companies -- and also one of the most hair greying.

>>164903821
That seems incredibly overengineered and potentially inefficient.

Even if you want to separate it so it isn't directly in your main loop, there's no reason to split it up into classes like that. Just have all your input APIs put events into a single stream and then have the abstract input bindings pull from that stream.

>>164904319
But hair-greying programming is the most fun programming... 5 years from now if I'm not doing way more challenging things I'm going to be fucking pissed with my entire career.
Fuck, the only thing is time. Devving for 8 hours at work and then coming home to enginedev is going to burn me out and leave me with a fraction of the progress I could be making.

>>164904491
There's room to move around in most game companies. If you want to bite off something bigger after you get in the door as a tech. designer, there's paths for that if you show you've got the skills to pay the figurative bills.

At least in most companies that's the case. Besides, there's always the golden parachute option of working for a company for a while until you've got some big reserves saved up -- and then you bail, start your own company up after your no-compete expires, and use those savings to make the games you wanted to while you were working there. Lots and lots of AAA devs ejecting from companies these days to start up their own studios.

>>164898878
less shading is better.

>>164904389
Hmm... could you explain that a bit more?

I'll try to reason about my thoughts a bit too, for clarification (and a bit of rubber-duck programming).

My idea that there are multiple modes of input (at this point I'm only worried about mouse, keyboard and gamepad, though I could see adding touch in the future).
These interact in different ways and have different meaningful properties.
Mouse has a position and multiple states of buttons up and down, as well as a scroll wheel to think about.
Keyboard has a large number of buttons up or down.
Gamepads have axes, a dpad, and a variety of buttons as well.

SDL lets me query the states of these devices most of the time, however some states are only observable through SDL_Events (namely if a Gamepad is added or removed during runtime or if the scroll wheel of the mouse is moved).

I want to be able to store the current states of the devices as well as edge-triggered latches during the frames the buttons are either pressed or released. It'd also be pertinent to have timers for how long something has been held, etc.

I somehow need a unifying "stream", as you put it, where these inputs are temporarily stored.
This could potentially be as simple as a struct of vectors which gets cleared and new events pushed onto it every frame, yes? Then this needs to be analyzed to determine the edge-triggers and timers I mentioned above.

Then the abstract inputs should pull from the processed inputs, not the raw input? And if so, how do I go about structuring all this?

>>164904690
I wish I had the guts to do that. Or even just try to get a job in the games industry. I just can't get over the fact that there's no rational reason for me to try to break into an industry that is objectively worse in every measurable way. Less benefits, worse pay, zero job security, and worse hours than what I already do.

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>working on game
>suddenly power goes out

>>164904690
You seem to know what you're talking about. I know there's a LOT I don't know about programming, but I'm dedicated to it and I care a lot about constantly keeping up the pace of my learning and pushing myself forward. Do you think it'd be more beneficial to release something, or to continue to get more programming experience through engine devving? I've been full-time for about 2.5 Years doing software engineering for various startups, and 1 Year as a full-stack web developer; my goal is to eventually gain enough experience to take on more technical, architectural lead roles. Something that makes going into work feel fun, something tough.

Right now I'm leaning toward switching to an engine like GM2 and doing my best to release something polished by the end of the year, but if that would be meaningless when the goal is to advance in the industry then pls let me know now lol

>>164905104
Thanks for reminding me to back up my game.

>>164905104
Never happens to me
Laptop dev here

>>164899795
>2pretentious4me
Im saying, that site has a nice layout and color scheme and the line numbers are also nice

Are you mad about something?

>>164905229
Not that guy, but are you in university or maybe freshly out?
I'm graduating in May and have had a few internships working as a web dev and it fucking blows. For every single internship I've had it's essentially been cleaning up other people's shit when bugs come in.
Also webdev just blows, it's no fun. I love dealing with lower level languages. I want something tough too. Something where efficiency matters. I think embedded systems might be more my speed, if only there were an actual market for that in my area...

>>164905104
>3rd world problems

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Here's a daring question:

What if you could only switch equipment at check/save points?

Before you go meh: I'm probably planning to include only a couple of armor sets (e.g. leather, chain, plate, cloth), however each of them has an impact on the playstyle (plate armour offers protection, however it is too heavy to make far jumps or climb in, chain offers more protection against blades than leather but it's making a lot of noise to move around in it, making sneaking harder, cloth makes you nimble but e.g. fire attacks absolutely wreck you etc etc).
By making the equipment screen only available at save points I want to force the player to think ahead, think about things he saw in the area, maybe retry certain areas with a different loadout to reach different places, or sneak by certain enemies.

What do you think?

>>164900079
The exe and the data folder inside a parent folder, and zip the parent folder

>>164905075
It's a rough place that's not for everyone, that's for damn sure. You're absolutely right about it being a shit-industry for pay and benefits in nearly all companies -- the tradeoff is you get to do the thing you love with people who also love to do the thing you love.

If that's not a huge motivator for you and you've got real technical or artistic skill, and you're not working contract, then I'd argue to stay the hell out and keep it as a hobby or something you do on the side.

Although some places might have better hours than what you've got right now, depending. Some companies actively encourage folks to bail out if they need to decompress -- but those are the studios typically set up by said golden parachute devs haha.

>>164905229
Results speak louder than portfolio pieces -- unless you've got a really really good portfolio piece. If you're churning out Narbacular Drops and nobody knows, you're doing yourself a huge disservice by not shouting that from the rooftops in your portfolio.

You might be surprised how high you might be able to get with your experience though. A lot of companies hiring 'lead engineers' are really just hiring people who're competent enough that they can produce results -- even if that means dipping in to the asset store etc.

Lots of studios are still picking up assets like nGUI for their projects - the more you can mod code like that and make things do what they need, the more hireable you'll be for a lot of the smaller studios.

The best way to advance in the industry is to be attached to projects that sell really well, make a lot of good friends, and deliver solid and consistent results. And be lucky.

Also >>164905473 avoid internships like the plague if you've got real skill. Instead, try to do contract work.

>>164905563
Hm, yeah, that's sensible. That's what I'll do then.

>>164905493
Oh yeah it's pretty much supposed to be a free roaming dungeon crawler á la King's Field/Arx Fatalis.

>>164905473
No, I've been graduated for about 3 years now and had some pretty good jobs where I've had a lot of responsibility. My current job is definitely a step down though. Webdev definitely sucks, but at least when I was doing webdev it was more than just html/javascript since I had to write the backends too.

>>164905493
I guess it'd be a question of how sparely placed the checkpoints are, Junge.
Not sure how I'd like that myself. If you pick up a new piece of armor from a chest, is it suddenly only accessible from a checkpoint?

>>164905493
Could be gud. It's like choosing your equipment before a mission in Hitman.

>>164900438
>Unity also has the new collab feature
/agdg/ collab when?

Seriously though that would be so dope for getting help/pair programming/debugging

>>164904970
>I want to be able to store the current states of the devices as well as edge-triggered latches during the frames the buttons are either pressed or released. It'd also be pertinent to have timers for how long something has been held, etc.
If you do this for every single input, that will add up to a lot of wasted effort. Do it as needed, i.e. at the abstract level.

You shouldn't be thinking even of having the abstract input correspond to a specific button/axis/whatever and be stateful and generate all edge events. The abstract input should specifically be either a state or an event. An abstract event can be bound directly to a concrete event, but an abstract state needs to be bound to two events (typically press/release of the same button). Though you can also have abstract events based on axis thresholds, abstract axes that take two buttons (e.g. being able to bind left thumbstick X and A+D to the same abstract input), etc.

>This could potentially be as simple as a struct of vectors which gets cleared and new events pushed onto it every frame, yes?
Sure. Most inputs are going to come from events in practice. That's pretty standard. There's very few platform APIs I've seen that force you to poll the state of input (XInput being the major outlier, but SDL handles that). I suppose you could have both event-based devices and stateful devices exposed for translation to abstract input but I haven't thought of how that would work.

>>164905756
>/agdg/ collab when?
When it's not bound to fail within minutes. So never.

>>164905756
max 5 users, so we cant go hog wild with it. also there is a 25 gb limit on their free cloud storage, and no clear way to use your own. so its a trap to buy storage from them

>>164900931
lel, rekt


>>164901207
>gay little photoshop collage
wait what? post it.
Having progress ignored sucks, even someone calling your work shit in a /v/-style way is at least an acknowledgement that an attempt was made

Alright boys

today's a sunday so im taking a break
tell me what you think:
https://u.nya.is/ikbuuc.mp4

>>164905493
Generally speaking in games you use a save point before you get a chance to scope out what's ahead of you. If you're hand designing levels you can probably build around this though: Here's the introduction, now save and get your gear, now here's the challenge+twist

Then the possible failure mode: what keeps a player from playing as far as they can through a level, then backtracking back to the save point to get a loadout? That's tedious because they have to redo areas, and they've trivialized the puzzle. I'm reminded of some of the older pokemon games that gave you free infinite healing if you were willing to hike back to town and how unfun that made things.

>>164903048
What? no, senpai
demo day is about proffering an executable, its practical production/release experience

>>164905493
Don't be so hardline about it. Just impose a carry limit and have infinite global storage at checkpoints.

>>164901315
that's an excellent mechanic with a fitting aesthetic. need some gameplay suggestions? how bout some eyes can only be swapped a certain number of times? some eyes can only be swapped from a certain direction? maybe some eyes can reflect the goo around corners? some eyes could be moving along a path and the player would need to time his goo launch. maybe some eyes need to be goo'ed in a certain order?

>>164905619
>Results speak louder than portfolio pieces

And by this I also mean to say I'm more liable to hire on 'the guy who made the combat and dialog portions of The Banner Saga' than I am to hire 'dude who has a neat concept game on his portfolio'.

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>>164905818
Hmm... what is an "abstract input" to you then? Maybe I'm misunderstanding that point.
I guess I'm getting tripped up on how to represent any type of input from any of the modes as a single type of input (like in the shitty paint attached), and still have it carry a meaning of what it is and where it came from...

>>164906425
>>164905619
Alright, fuck it then. First priority: Release something.

>>164906602
Through failure, it's likely you'll find success. Just don't expect that success to be guaranteed or soon.

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Progress, and a first demo on my portal system (this is more of a tech demo, the asset is good for pretty much anything portal-related)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K_Lcf9g_C4
https://phygon.itch.io/vr-portal-demo

>>164906602
>First priority: Release something.
It really is. I released two shit mobile games, and people take me way more seriously than somebody who's been working on some complex thing forever and hasn't released squat.

Hell, Tommy Refenes has been working on his own engine for about five years now, and Edmund's release Binding of Isaac, Fingered, BoI: Rebirth, BoI: Afterbirth and BoI: Afterbirth+.

Don't get caught up in technology trickery unless it has an application.

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Aside from my character walking backwards I'm making progress

>>164906783
How long until C&D?

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>>164906934
never, probably
probably gonna change the colors before release of the demo on steam, though

Unreal has absolutely no good books

Does Unity?

>>164907048
Books seem like a waste of money for something that changes so dramatically so often. It's like trying to write a Prima strategy guide for an MMO.

>>164906523
>Hmm... what is an "abstract input" to you then? Maybe I'm misunderstanding that point.
An abstract input is something like "jump". It's an event. It might be bound to the concrete event of the spacebar being pressed. It might also be generated by the right trigger of the gamepad crossing a threshold of 80%. It might even be bound to the left mouse button being released but only if Alt is held down.

The player's avatar doesn't care about any of the details, it just wants to know when to jump.

>I guess I'm getting tripped up on how to represent any type of input from any of the modes as a single type of input (like in the shitty paint attached), and still have it carry a meaning of what it is and where it came from...
As long as you can assign a GUID to it it doesn't matter. For instance, you could use an unsigned integer where 0 is the keyboard, 1 is the mouse, and for (i >= 2) it's the (i-1)th gamepad to represent the device. Then for keyboards you denote keys by scancodes, etc.

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Well, I've figured out how to reskin the UI for this thing. Let's see if I can't make it look like the concept art I made for the system.

>>164907048
None that I'm aware of.

>>164906816
Yep, this. Also forgot to say >>164906602: good luck, release to public beta early [unless your game is a very linear/plot-heavy game], and don't obsess over success unless you have no other choice.

>>164907025
>Literally copied game almost exactly
>"N-never going to get a C&D!!!"

>>164907173

>money

>>164907203
Thanks.
Don't care about success as much as personal growth, which comes from failures and successes, so there's no way I can lose.
ur the best aggydaggy

>>164907025
Thats a cool idea with the logo but it doesn't flow

>>164906783
>light doesn't travel through portals
2/10, see me after class.

>>164907253
I haven't copied anything that they copyrighted.
Besides, that's just a demo that I spent maybe 10 hours on. If they C&D it, I'll just take the core tech and drop it into another demo (of which I already have several)

>>164907440
Any suggestions? It's mostly a placeholder now so that I could slap somethin on the demo that didn't look like total crap

>>164907481
Light actually does travel through portals (dynamic ones, at least), but when playtesting it to some friends they complained about how the light around the portals was "confusing", since both portals had a purplish glow around them.
Here's an older demo showing light shine through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2zRSEmY3xA

>>164906523
>>164907178
In general, you want a tagged union to represent input GUIDs.

Though gamepads can trip this up when it comes to saving and loading because the order could change in between (unless you only want to support XInput or something quite standardized). The gamepad API should give you a fairly unique name for the gamepad that will somehow have to factor into the GUID, but by wary about doing a lot of string comparisons.

you guys dont mind a 921 mb download right?

>>164907425
That is one positive ass attitude senpai. Good luck anon. I hope you can achieve what you goals.

>>164908615
>921 mb
You can fuck right off

>>164908615
There's not a single AGDG game that could possibly justify that.

should i submit a demo to demo day if it's been posted in a demo day already

>>164908615
i don't care about the size as long as your screenshots look interesting enough for me to want to download your demo

>>164908840
Did you make decent progress?

>>164908894
yeah but the last demo day i participated in was so long ago i cant remember what changed

>>164906395
Glad you liked it! Thanks for the feedback.

The idea behind the puzzles is that everything is reversable. I hate puzzles where you make a mistake and can't backtrack, or have to start from the very beginning. A couple of your suggestions I've considered, but found that they make things too difficult to explain to the player. I do, however, really like the swapping from a certain direction idea. I'll see if I can find a way to implement that elegantly, if that works out that'd be a great addition. Thanks for the feedback!

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hey, what do you think of this mspaint style? would it turn you off from the rest of the game?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12056681
http://www.strawpoll.me/12056681
http://www.strawpoll.me/12056681

>>164908615
not gonna download it, personally. I'll definitely download 100-200mb, but any more than that and I'll have to really want to play.

>>164908840
that's the whole point

>>164908979
Post it then, of you give me a name I'll make sure to play it

>>164908982
i like the style but it needs some refining
maybe some more gradients
the gun looks sloppy as fuck tho i hope you mean to fix that

>>164909097
https://scalemail.itch.io/walkerman-prologue

i cant remember if the tutorial and faux-counter was in there last time

>>164908982
Gun's a big turn off.

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So, I need to be able to load character sprites dynamically. In Python, I crawled a directory of sprites and sliced them at a set width, then swapped out the frame of animation every time the fighter updates.

I've gotten something similar running in Unity, but it's completely ignoring the powerful animation and state system in Unity. Is there a way to dynamically load a sprite sheet for an animation in Unity?

>>164909230
the gun is the specific thing i was asking about. the rest is good if bland

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>The things I changed since last demo are

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progress

>>164909525
REEEEEE WHODEVS OUT

>>164909262
I guess I'll give my thoughts on demo day, looks pretty cool though

>>164909525

Too busy

>>164909525
Nice job stealing dooms handgun

>>164909525
How did you go about animating the sword slashes? It looks really good.

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>>164908982
maybe if the lines were cleaner? maybe if the environment was in line with the aesthetic of the gun? as is, not a fan.

>>164908982
The gun doesn't fit at all.

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>>164906816
>>164906602
>>164906425
>>164906216

It really is. Any monkey can slap away all day but only a good monkey knows when to finish.

But really though, releasing a product shows proper planning and the ability to meet set goals with a deadline in mind.

So releasing a demo shows you know how to wrap up your product and release it as far as releasing a demo would be.

It's what separates a program man from a keyboard monkey, who will never release.

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>>164905104
>update os
>freezes halfway through

>>164907650
Oh, I see it now. I guess the bigger problem is that the light is being emanated from the entire area of the portal, and only in one direction, even though there's nothing there. If the lighting only came from the edges it would be fine. As it is it just looks wrong.

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I don't have any sound or music, would it be ok to use stolen video game sounds and music for demoday 12?

>>164910072
Of course, you can do whatever you want if there's no income resulting from it

>>164910072
thats a long cat

just put down $10 on sounds, it makes a big difference

>>164909525

guaranteed replies because it looks pretty

>>164910072
SoundBible.com

>>164910408
Wow anon you're so redpilled.

>>164909347
this sounds to me like you might not be using the animator correctly. can you give an example of when you'd need to load an animation that couldn't just be a state in the animator?

>>164910503
dont get butthurt, im just stating facts

>>164910025
Unfortunately, Unity doesn't have support for anything other than point, spot, and environments as far as dynamic stuff goes
thanks for the input, though! I definitely wish that they had more flexible lighting options.

>>164910072
>He asks, five hours until the deadline.
>When he'll have 48 more hours.

Sure?

Question for Godot devs out there. Is it better to have a bunch of spells be the child in a node in a separate scene, or have the spells be in individual scenes?

>>164910576
Facts that literally every single person on the planet is already aware of

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>>164910785

then why are you so mad?

>>164910868
Where's the anger?

>ill make a random gen map like ftl it'll be easy
>5 HOURS LATER

>>164910542
The game is meant to be fully customizable, so I'd need to be able to load a directory at runtime of images that have never even been seen by the Unity editor before. I can have information on the sheet layout, like the size and position of each individual frame, but I'd need to be able to build an animation at runtime with assets that are completely unrelated to the compiled project.

>>164911216
Random map gen is easy, playable random map gen is hard

>>164910706
I have each spell as a separate scene by itself, inheriting its script from a common spell.gd in the 'spells' directory. Each spell also has its own folder in that directory for unique assets, while common assets are shared in a separate folder.

It all comes down to how you feel more comfortable coding it though.

>>164909880
>>164909841
>>164909291
>>164909230
thanks, the game is now a gun-free zone

>>164911216

if you're wondering you need to make a graph

... and that's about all I know on the matter

>>164910868
I'm not mad
I'm not even the other guy

>>164910072
how do you save .gif videos?

>have basic game overview idea done
>can't congeal any thoughts about the actual combat mechanics
why is thinking so hard?

>>164911471
just completely remove the hudgun and pretend you're pandering to the hardcore fps crowd

>>164910692
To be fair, if you don't upload your demo in the first 12 hours you'll lose out on a ton of views/downloads.

>>164911572
Don't worry
Some anon last thread said that ideas don't matter anyway
Just program anything in

>>164911332
Bigtime thanks

>>164911572
1. copy combat mechanics you like
2. add gimmick
3. #2 is optional

wew that was hard

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How do you guys like this graphics style? Everything is made of millions of voxels and is completely volumetric.

>>164912110
>>164912323
RoR clone with the gimmick of good multiplayer coming right up.

>>164912438
Turn up the resolution. I can't see shit.

>>164912438
would've been a nice ace of spades map

>>164911479

I know I need to use a graph and thats about it.

No matter what I always feel like I should model it like a linked list You create a starting Node, and that node has up/down/left/right variables containing another node, etc..

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>>164912438

>>164905493
> plate armour offers protection however it is too heavy to make far jumps or climb in

unless you're planning to have every single jump have some other way around I don't recommend it

punishing players for wearing the armour they like is not a good idea

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I never want to touch another projection matrix in my entire life

>>164912438
I really like it, but it should be higher resolution if possible.

>>164902129
Keep the game in the original style you intended it to be. Looks WAAAAY better without shading.
>>164902582
Fuck

>>164912553
>>164912849
This is about it unless you want performance problems. I can add anti aliasing however, which should give a similar effect

>>164913084
Is there any particular reason why sampling 2x that would give you performance issues? How are you rendering the pixels, and what's your bottleneck?

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>>164912438
Is this a new Outcast?

>>164912438
gavan, go back to your office job you fucking enginedev.

YOU PROMISED US AI

>>164912438
Voxel tech is insane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENJ0p3b35H4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLCmQNKmzlw

Is it a good idea to just take preexisting rigs and model over them?

>>164911258
dunno m8, maybe someone on the official forums can help you

>>164912438
really like it, looks like 3d pixel art. looks like a ton of work.

>>164912438
No reason you can't use both. Polygons for close detail so you can use textures, tessellation, etc., voxels for further levels of detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkSS_veoSg0

>>164910303
Where did you get the sound bank from?

>>164913567
If you want to use existing animations, sure.

>>164913173
It's tough on the computer
>>164914021
Not a fan of that style

>>164914496
Artistically it's pretty boring but the technique would apply just as well to colourful, high contrast visuals like >>164912438.

>>164914496
>Is there any particular reason why sampling 2x that would give you performance issues?
>How are you rendering the pixels
>What is your bottleneck?
I am attempting to help you here my man. I just spent the last 3 months working on custom rendering engines, there's a very good chance that I can help you with your poor performance if you give me that info + tell me what you're using to render it.

>>164912438
Looks cool, must be a bitch to render

>>164908615
optimize this shit

>>164911216
>Pick a cellular automata algorithm
>Choose a bunch of random values for determining tiles and weighted percentages
>???
>Done in 30 mins

>>164908615
The fuck dude, I'm submitting a VR game with fuckheug materials and mine is only 200mb

>>164914826
>it just looks like yet another cellular automata cave system

>>164908615
Surely you mean 92.1mb right?
No one wants to download your 1GB ue4 game.

>>164914907
Don't matter none
Don't try to be unique and original, just try to be not shit

>that dedicated fan that clicks like on anything you post within 5 minutes

>>164915094
He also said "like FTL" so even then your suggestion is completely useless.

>>164915117
>tfw it's a bot and you have no fans

>>164915271
>tfw snapchat bot follows you

>>164915271
robots are people too

>>164915117
>that "fan" that thinks they know more than you do and offers "suggestions"

>>164915573
/agdg/ is full of experts

>>164915037
there is no need to be jealous of my bells and whistles, you too can join the ue4 masterrace
>>164824473

>>164915478
don't start that shit

>>164915910
>jealous of bloat
I'll stick with my 1mb game thanks.

Quick where can I find Chinese girls voice attack sounds?

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>using a linkedlist for everything
>performance drops when theres 3000+ items
>convert it to an array before looping through it
>no more performance issues

Hey, I have a story idea for a game, I think I want it to be an RPG with a team, I hate the indie pixel trend, I love low poly models, so it looks like I might want to do a 3D game.
Should I just find a game I like and adapt from there?

>>164916357
time to get in on the low poly meme before it becomes uncool

>>164916317
>calling 3000+ item objects
when would you ever have to do that

>>164908982
Would look very good if everything was ms paint, it would sure be something different that people take notice off.

>>164916317
You should always prefer array lists to linked lists, and of course normal arrays if the size doesn't need to change. Linked lists are optimized for the case where you're doing many more insertions or removals in the middle of the list (not at either end) than anything else.

If you need a list, an array list should be the default choice. Only consider switching to a linked list if you profile and find that there's a performance issue related to insertions and removals. Array based queues and deques are also very efficient.

Linked lists are also potentially useful in lock free scenarios but that's another tale for another time.

>>164916317
>>164916638
Though I have a feeling you could have been looping through the list in a very suboptimal way if you're still maintaining a linked list and converting it every time you want to iterate and the performance is good enough.

>>164916419
what will be after low poly?

>>164905104
Been there
>Huge thunderstom today
>Don't dev out of fear of power outs

>>164916419
you're 2 years late.
that dragon cancer, orwell, bound on ps4. it's mainstream now.

>>164916917
Why don't you people have battery backups?
Protects against power surge, too

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>>164914628
I am about sorry, the voxels are being generated on the fly as a result of high level algorithms and being discarded after getting rendered every frame. It's costly

>>164916846
late 90's dues ex and arx fatalis style

>>164917158
Woah woah wait, what? Why are you regenerating the voxels every single frame? You should be regenerating the pixels every single frame but the voxels should be static or at least come with a predefined map location. Is there a reason that you have to regenerate the map every single frame?

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>>164916423
I just wanted to see if I could improve my game's performance. Didn't realise linkedlists were that bad.

>>164916638
Never heard of array lists before. Do they just work like a normal array but with dynamic length?

>>164916829
Just going through the list was causing issues

>>164917116
I don't even have a power point in my room desu

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What happened to Gamemaker Professional in my Steam library?

>>164917270
I am sorry i am not emphazing right, there are literally billions of voxels in any of these screenshots. To save a full map of voxels would take more memory than i can imagine

>>164917417
dont you mean... MY steam library?

>>164917417
>>164917510
Nevermind I found it. Fucking steam.

I'll get back to working on my game now.

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How has the GM2 beta been treating previous users of GM? I haven't been able to touch my project for months due to work, but I'm curious if the workflow is better.

>>164917061
Its not too late until network television has ads with the artstyle, and they're still using ukelele music

>>164917362
>Never heard of array lists before. Do they just work like a normal array but with dynamic length?
Yes. The typical way you interface with them is by adding or removing from one end (like a stack) and iterating, but you can also add or remove items from the front or middle.

Array queues and deques make it fast to add and remove at the front as well for almost negligably slower iteration.

>Just going through the list was causing issues
Were you using a for loop from 0 to the length of the list - 1 and then indexing the list at each index? That is a huge waste. Probably your language/list has a for each loop that will be much faster.

>>164916098
>no reply
Of fucking course.
Nvm didn't want to but I'll just use Chun-li's.

>>164917158
The underwater rocks look nice
but the rest I can't tell wtf Im looking at
but clearly you've accomplished... something

>>164917735
chun was going to be my only suggestion, so I didn't bother posting

>>164917735
Ling Xiaoyu from Tekken is a chinese girl too.

>>164917481
Ah, I get it. So effectively, you have billions of voxels that are being generated from some vector map or whatnot, that you are then rendering using some method (?) into a frame. Here's a couple points that you might want to think on for performance boosts:
Is there a particular reason that you have to generate far more voxels than your eye could ever see, given the low resolution? Surely, you could get away with generating a dynamic number of voxels at once- Wouldn't the max resolution, even if not dynamic from distance, only need to be (Far clip plane size / voxel width at max distance)?

Are you occlusion culling?

Is it possible for you to store light information for a particular voxel after you render it once, preventing the need to continually rerender light and shadow?

>>164917158
>>164912438

I Think it looks extremely sexy. Not sure how it would look in motion though. Post webm.

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>>164917632
pic related was sold at TARGET last year.

this article was printed in 2015:
https://www.sessions.edu/notes-on-design/whats-the-deal-with-low-poly-art/

i'm sorry my friend, this trend is dead af

>>164917236
Nah, those games are pretty ugly and just the best attempt at realism that hardware could manage. Low poly is at least charming, like pixel art.

>>164917481
Realize that most of the space is empty or massive chunks of the same thing and use a sparse representation.

>>164916098
for taking damage sounds, just record yourself masturbating

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Got the doggy's head tracking clamped properly now, so no more exorcist doggo

Also got some ambient music put together
https://clyp.it/yhz4n0c1

>>164917481
>>164917919
Also I don't understand how you can fit the map in memory for the rendering but not retain it between frames.

>>164917910
That's probably not even the style he means. That's reimagined faux low poly; low poly is N64, PSX, Quake, etc.

>>164918063
Only the. Voxels on the screen.

>>164918052
was he spinning his head the whole way round before
i would like to see that

also what is the game

>>164918361
Well the entire map doesn't need to be in memory anyways, you can save and load from the disk as needed. You should still use a sparse representation, though, that way you can keep more in memory and not have to worry about the speed of I/O as much.

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What /agdg/ games you look forward to play on demo day?

>>164918509
yours!

>>164918509
anything that'll run on my machine
don't forget your linux builds kiddos !!

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>>164918626
>catering to 2.5% market share
I'll pay extra attention to this.

>>164918430
I didn't grab any screenies of it happening, but yeah his head would just track you in any which direction

No real direction on the project yet - It started as an experiment to mess around with night/day cycles, turning into a survival island kinda thing now, I guess

>>164918749
unity does linux builds kiddoe

>>164918587
my game will be shit.

>>164918052
really good doggo

>>164918749
Not to mention that if you want to support anything other than a single mainstream distro you've now got a support nightmare on your hands.

I've given up on explicit Linux support. D3D11 is way better than OpenGL so it's worth it.

>>164917730
It has a foreach loop but the problem is you can't remove something from the list while in a foreach loop. I guess I could make a list of things to remove then remove them all after but iterating through didn't cause any problems so I didn't worry about it

>>164918749
>actually thinking that 97.5% of the market share gives a shit about your game
u wot

>>164918917
yeah it's that much more likely that linuxfags will

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>>164918626
>don't forget your linux builds

>>164918898
>but iterating through didn't cause any problems so I didn't worry about it
Well clearly it did cause problems, just performance related rather than correctness related.

In any case, you should just use an array list the entire time instead of using a linked list and converting it whenever you want to iterate.

>>164918898
foreach (var item in allItems.ToList())

iterate through a copy of the real list you want to modify

>>164918626
>releasing for non-free operating systems
reported

>>164918509
world of horror

>>164918898
>>164919189
You could also filter the list, which is like a for each but you use a lambda as the body of the loop. You return true when you want to keep the value and false if you want it to be removed.

>>164916846
ps2 graphics?
Maybe we'll all jump over to making games with AAA graphics

>>164918626
If you got Python installed, TUSSLE actually runs better on Linux than windows!

>>164918626
I tried to once, but in order to install the dependencies to run it I had to apt-get some game libraries, and it started installing security certificates for chinese telecoms

noped the fuck out and never looked back.

>>164916098
>>164917735
go on omegle or some other webchat

Question before I do anything stupid.
Would anybody know if I pirated a Unity coding asset from the asset store?
Yeah, it sounds like a really douchebag thing to do, but when you're a poor as fuck student.... ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

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Currently bodging some AI together for DD. Encountered Michael Jackson's spirit.

>>164919707
Learn to program yourself instead of being dumb and stealing?

>>164919549
lol what was it

>>164919707
if they look at your code probably

>>164919770
looks neat, what is it
also nice pikachu flags

>>164919707
Of course they will
Will they actually challenge you on it? Probably not

>>164905104
>he doesn't dev on an old thinkpad t420 docked and hooked up to 3 monitors specifically because its battery acts as a built in UPS
lad...

>>164919932
don't even joke about that
my friend has a x230t and it looks like a fucking generator
>nearly 32 hours of battery time
literally insane

>>164919907
>looks neat, what is it
>also nice pikachu flags
It's a wizard's duel. And how hard did you fuck up your pikachu to make it look like that?

>>164919707
steal it and rewrite it using different variable names, different orders in which functions are defined, alternative algorithms etc, they won't be able to tell
when they argue that you stole their code you say that it was certainly an inspiration but you came up with all of it yourself

>>164917598
For everything they fixed they fucked up 2 things that were perfectly fine.
Also the trial version only allows you to have 15 objects and like 20 sprites.

Am I memeing myself if I only use 16 colors in my game?

>>164920507
how many more do you need

>>164920569
It's kinda difficult to represent details. My character sprites all have bright orange skin.

>>164920670
make some brown racist

>>164920670
make one of your colours a skin tone then

>>164920731
Can't, there's no brown in my palette.

>>164920760
No room.

With Unity, does everything under your Assets folder get packed into the build, or just the Resources folders?

>>164920797
what 16 colours are you using that none of them work for people

Is it considered a dick move to link my DD12 game's itch.io page early and ask if anyone finds any glaringly huge bugs I might have missed so I can fix them before submission?

>>164920890
Black, dark gray, mid gray, light gray
White, dark blue, mid blue, light blue,
Dark green, mid green, light green, turquoise,
Purple, red, orange, yellow.

>>164920898
why would it be
you should be playtesting anyway

>>164921023
remove the "mid" colors and make more skin tones

>>164920898
nah

>>164921036
It's running fine on my system, but I've got all the Python libraries and everything installed. I've run into bugs where something doesn't link right and it dies if someone doesn't have a Python runtime environment installed.

If someone wants to just download the game real quick and see if it boots up, that'd be great.
https://digiholic.itch.io/project-tussle

>>164921069
I need them for shading on my tiles.

>>164921180
Clearly rocks are more important than your main character. Pick if you want detailed tiles or detailed humans.

Or just make the character an alien or something and use green.

>>164921023
yellow, black, yellow, black, yellow, black, yellow, black, yellow, black, yellow, black, yellow, black, black, yellow,

>>164921023
>>164921069
>>164921180
if a gameboy can get away with four shades of grey so can you

i am pretty sure the gameboy only does four shades of grey
nobody look it up and prove me wrong

>>164921391
Maybe I should give them all blue skin so nobody can call me racist.

>>164921180
Fake a mid color by mixing the light and dark pixels

>3 hours to demo day
Is your game ready agdg?

i want to be friends with a jew. jews are hilarious. where can i go to become friends with a jew? any jews here? is there a tinder but for finding jewish friends?

>>164921298
There's more rocks than people in the game so they are more important.

>>164921642
Illegally immigrate to america they love that

>>164921516
>blue skin
damnit moot

Its a partially transparent png, so when its thumbnail got made it collapsed down to jpg and lost transparency, I guess its just assumed we're all on the Yotsuba blue theme. But it would probably be too much of a burden to create thumbnails that filled in "proper" background colors for each theme.

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>>164921629
Well yes of course. Just putting on the final touches. I have gravely misunderstood the inner workings of collisiondetection in my engine.I feel like I'm back in school again, using every available minute to chuck in as much knowledge as I can into my head.

>>164921572
Not a bad idea, and I guess my sprites are big enough (48x48) for it to work. Thanks!

>>164921180
You can probably use the same colour for light grey/blue and dark grey/blue. Something in between.

>>164922059
>16 colours
>48x48 tiles
This is some extreme dissonance.

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>>164918509

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You are kosmonaut, Hery Potter

cyka blyat

Really happy with how this face texture turned out

>>164921161
I couldn't test it natively cause I have no idea which .py to execute but WINE had no trouble running it and that's about as stable as it gets

lotta slowdown, but this isn't a heavy computer and who knows what WINE was doing with it

nice music too

>>164922191
The next step up that fits neatly into byte boundaries is 256 colors, which feels like overkill.

>>164922526
Don't use all of them, then? 48x48 doesn't "fit neatly" either; 48 isn't even a power of two.

>164921642
>tfw you remember demodays always leads to insane shitposting
It's like the shitposter(s) gets as anxious as the dev

What's the next Jam idea going to be? New year, want to really get back into dev.

Fucking hell, we were having a good day until now.

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Sadly won't make it to demo day this time, but here's laser.

>>164922783
Had hoped they'd not wreck up the thread out of respect for demoday, things were going well

>>164922741
next jam is comfy jam according to that one guy who keeps asking for ideas

starts in feb last i heard

>>164922848
you can't just post what you have?

>>164922783
>wah my boogeyman is here time for another tantrum
Kill yourself faggot.

>>164922526
be like japan
use as many of the 256 colours as you need and fill up the rest with emojis

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>>164921629
Not even close. I still have to:

Put in music/sound effects
Place a bunch of doodads
create a few doodads (tree stumps, rocks, etc.)
Put in text bubbles
optimize a bit

Need to get all of that done within the next 7 hours before I finally sleep for work tomorrow.

>>164922891
The game is literally unplayable with keyboard at this state, so that might be bit of problem. Also not worth making key rebinding now, since I don't know all buttens that needs to be in.

I also haven't come up with name for the game or devname for myself.

>>164923079
>Also not worth making key rebinding now, since I don't know all buttens that needs to be in.
What? How does that affect anything?

>>164923000
mad progress, tripsfriend

>>164923079
>The game is literally unplayable with keyboard at this state
People have submitted demos like that before.
They weren't very good

>>164923115
I mean the menu for that. The thing is implemented, but haven't had time/interest to do one. The reason why it's unplayable with KB is because all buttons (except movement) are binded to space because it's only ASCII code I remember.

I guess I could just bind them to some keys and upload the game.

>>164923359
Why couldn't you do one with what you have and go back and add more inputs later?

>>164922201

Where'd you get the sprite?

>>164917919
it doesn't matter that much if people have nostalgia for it, and people absolutely have nostalgia for the appearance of Deus Ex, Half-Life, and things from that specific era
sort of moderately-low-poly with very low texture detail and minimal animation

>>164922891
>Comfy
Cool. I've been talking with people about joining their projects and remembered how much fun dev can be. Figured I should brush up and the Jams here tend to be fun.

>>164923485
>sort of moderately-low-poly
anon you could literally count their polygons
the average memepoly model these days easily has 4x as many tris, its more about how the model reacts to lighting

but I agree, I have a thing for (actual) low poly games, it just feels easier on my brain to keep track of where things are as I move, case in point Ctesiphon

>>164923621
>trying to start shit on this holy day

>>164918626
does webgl work on linux?`

can somebody tell me how webgl will work for DD? does webgl work on itch.io or will i have to link somewhere?

>>164923790
I just thought it was humorous and truthful no need to be sensitive

Reminder that you will only get ~10 downloads
unless you have good art

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Wizardry clone with anime girl portraits and a hexagonal grid instead of squares

>>164922848
>fading to black while keeping the palette intact
Nice.

As someone who is super picky about retro-styled games, this looks awesome.

>>164923889
Still ~10 downloads more than I would get by not participating.

>>164923889
*if you don't shill

it's really easy to get thousands of plays if you shill your game

>>164922353
Yeah, the slowdown is why I'm switching to Unity. I've hit basically the limits of Python. Still including it in demo day since I've only done like 3 days of Unity work so far.

To run it natively in Linux, run main.py

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decided to finally make some visuals for this pit of insanity

>>164923621
Enginedevs only make wheels whereas engine users get stuff done despite the technical inferiority of their wheels?