>What is this?
This is the Nostalrius general. A private server for vanilla world of warcraft. We're currently waiting on the new nost server release:
NEW NOST WILL RELEASE THE 7TH OF JANUARY!
Alliance:
https://discordapp.corn/invite/tAZZ6Qg
Horde:
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
>Server homepage
https://elysium-project.org/
>Vanilla WoW database
http://db.vanillagaming.org
>Leveling Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-Z2vplxWZACKmCpw1B8vexKQ2vwjRqFRjcJhHjAxxJg/edit
>Nos Pre-Bis
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j81TgG0p_HrYKajiUiQfYIoSUx1culzy2u_Fc4wtiS8/edit#gid=329725463
>Leveling Specs
http://imgur.com/a/aNm8V#0
>Big Addon Pack
http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/3573-vanilla-112-addons-download/
Previous: >>164816772
8 hours
Warlock is a meme class
>>164835757
I love memes
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 - Undead rogue
0 - kill myself
>>164835757
You're a meme person.
I feel like I should sleep so I can wake up and get cigarettes and be on in time forwaiting in queue for 5 hours just to maybe kill 3 spiders in Tirisfal on my memelock
Hey everybody!
I know everyone's excited about the new launch in a few hours time, but I was wondering if you could help me decide on whether my Night Elf should be pink or silver!
Thanks guys and good luck on the new server!
What's the best warlock pvp build? Please post the talent tree.
If I roll hunter, will every fucking rogue I ever party with try to give me shit?
>>164835731
am i actually going to set an alarm on my phone to wake me up just so i can be able to not log in to a shitty chinese fucking vanilla wow server?
yes, i am.
wow sucks
>>164835891
Majority will, if your talking about loot start your own run and only invite cloth dps
>>164835891
Yes. And its not just loot, but rather rogues hatred for hunters.
Reminder that on 7th January is the true Christmas.
IC XC
>>164835559
>You realize that most of those top guilds get fucking PAID to play WoW right?
Former top 10 US raider here. No, they don't. Even Method and shit aren't really getting anything from their "sponsors", maybe a few mousepads and keyboards if they're lucky here and there. And a few of the big names might get paid to be figureheads at a convention now and again, but not often.
>rolling horde on fresh for memeing purpose only
t.old server r14
>>164835891
Just wait till you're trying to farm prebis. Rogues go apeshit over Truestrike and Baron's cape which happen to also be prebis for hunters AND fury warriors.
Anyone else thinking of just waiting til mid week to start?
It's going to be so packed, it won't even be fun.
>>164835891
rogue here
today i lost brutality blade to a hunter
needless to say my mom got a piece of my mind at the dinner table tonight, she agreed that he was out of line
fucking huntards REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>164836040
>r14
Ching chong xiao?
>>164836018
>Well a staple of communism is also the aspect of putting the community (hence the name) before the individual. This is 100% the case with Loot Council.
No it isn't. The problem people have with loot council in reality is the exact opposite: loot council results in core raiders getting their gear faster at the expense of the more casual raiders (which is meritocratic, not communistic). I don't know what fantasy loot council system you're imagining, but I'm talking about loot council in practice as it's used by actual raiding guilds, such as the one I'm in.
>>164835965
>>164836043
How come I never hear about casters going apeshit on each other over a pull?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12049438
>>164836217
probably because casters aren't anywhere near as gear dependent to the point where most of their gear does basically jack shit
>>164836217
You obviously never raided ICC.
>>164836098
>brutality blade
>hunter
What a fucking retard, that's not even a good hunter weapon.
>>164836217
>How come I never hear about casters going apeshit on each other over a pull?
More of their prebis is crafted stuff. I think there's something from drakk in ubrs they usually fight over though...
>>164836163
Sorry no
>>164836036
this
Hunter or Shaman?
Or both?
>can't change realmlist.wtf
reeeeeeeeee
im lvl 12 in the barrens, what is the best pet I can get right now?
>>164836441
Shaman. Hunters can fuck off.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12049438
http://www.strawpoll.me/12049438
http://www.strawpoll.me/12049438
http://www.strawpoll.me/12049438
>>164836441
Do you like your memes spicy or red hot?
>>164836441
Shaman or else you succ dix
0-3 Mage
4-7 Warrior
8-9 Paladin/Shaman
>>164836540
no go warrior we need more tanks and less dps
Who else here is rolling UD mage to be /LiterallyVurtne/ here?
Are alli warlocks really that bad??
>>164836641
Finalflash you're not staying on old PvP?
>>164836667
yeah wotf will literally cause any ally warlock to be one shotted
>>164836667
It will be extremely painful at 60 when you realize you literally cannot pvp against the horde due to 75% of them being undead.
For pve its fine though, just don't expect to do any pvp until your geared enough to kill someone in a deathcoil.
Guys if i want to tank low level instance on my pally (like maybe up to DM) i need consecration right? so i have to spec holy? or is it a mix of prot/holy? if so does anyone have a good talent tree?
I've been leveling with ret up until lv 21 and i want to tank deadmines but i just found out consecration is a holy talent and not a trainer spell
>>164836605
But I want to raid sempai and tanks don't get raid spots when you only need 4 max out of 40 slots.
>>164836725
>>164836741
retards enough with the meme
implying wotf will always mean that UD will win... fuck off retards i killed countless people wih my ally warlock
only in pro and fair duels can WotF mean something and actually be of help
>>164836751
you need the aggro talent from prot and conc from holy to start tanking. after you get conc from holy then put the rest in prot.
>>164836741
>It will be extremely painful
you're a big warlock
>>164836834
those 4 tank slots are going to fill up way slower then the dps slots. trust me
who nightelf here?
>>164836751
>pally tank
this is vanilla, retard. inform yourself about viable specs
>>164836857
>Alliance Warlocks
1-4 Hunter
4-7 Shaman
8-0 Mage
>>164836751
Consecration doesn't really do a whole of damage though even with a lot of intellect.
I would just put enough into protection to get some tanking talents, including the threat one. Then put the rest into Ret.
Honestly though your not going to be able to hold aggro on anything like a warrior can since your threat generation is going to be a lot lower.
Quick, /nosg/, whats your favorite race to play as?
Mines the comfy as alwaysTauren
>>164836040
Me too!
>>164837163
you are mine now cowboy
no talking to other animers
>>164837050
Undeads losing to alliance warlock is the ultimate form of cuckoldery.
Playing alliance warlock is very satisfying because you know that you're at a disadvantage from the very beginning, yet still manage to kill these pesky undead edgelords.
As a Chinese player, I feel really bad about this. I really enjoy hanging around in the game and I haven't bought a single coin in games in my life, but now I've been forced keeping away from other Chinese players in purpose just to make sure I wouldn't get involved if anything happens in the future. So I'm quite lonely in the game and this is sad. And now discussions are being carried out about rejecting all connections from China. I don't know what I can count on atm.
Whats the best alliance race for warriors? I never played alliance during vanilla so I don't have any idea if its like horde with Tauren being the best tank race.
>>164837245
Gnome
>>164837208
How many undead rogues will there be? Should be fun to counter them with a dwarf rogue, no?
>>164837158
Mulgore's such a good starting zone! Shame about the shitty racials and female tauren looking kinda... off.
My vote goes to NE. I love forward-flipping my way across Azeroth.
>>164837235
Are there no Chinese private servers? I would think with such a large population of players there would be a few.
It seems like that would solve the problem for nos and give the Chinese a place to take their cancerous gold trading.
>>164837163
What class? :3
>>164837245
human for the weapon skill
nightelf for the bigger hitbox
>>164837245
>Whats the best alliance race for warriors?
Human for pve, gnome for pvp.
I'm going to roll a human warrior myself.
>>164836040
h-hi cheng
>>164837319
>tauren
>shitty racials
no
I literally tried to sleep from 9pm, four hours ago for me, but I couldn't also any more because of excitement.
I literally am losing sleep getting excited to play WoW again. I've lost control of my life lads.
Anyone else?
Also someone edit this for WoW pls
>>164837337
There are chinese private servers but every single one is riddled with p2w and custom features, such is the standard of all games in china.
>>164837245
Human for dps
Dwarf for tank
Night Elf for swag
Gnome for pvp
>>164837356femaleTauren Warrior... prot of course!
>>164837397
I guess most of them are pretty good, but the increased herbalism is a total waste of a racial.
>>164836974
Stealth warrior
Alliance guilds should consist of ONLY dwarves and gnomes, + the occasional night elf druid.
There is literally no reason to roll Human or Night elf.
>but muh pve!
pve is not difficult in vanilla, nobody cares if the boss die 10 seconds faster.
Alright lads!
1: How long till the fresh server is on?
2: Should I go Undead or Orc Warlock?
3: What are the best proffesions for a warlock?
>>164837529
>actually pvping in wow
>laughingelfman.jpg
What's Bis mean?
t. Played off and on since literally vanilla but never reached max level ;_;
>>164836452
I had that issue before
Forget what fixed it sorry
>>164837529
Have fun being kicked out of a melee dps slot and replaced by a Human, then. Doesn't bother me.
>>164837559
undead if you want a reliable trinket vs warriors/locks/priests.
Orc if you're a fan of rng
http://www.strawpoll.me/12049193/
MORE RESULTS
>>164837593
best in slot
>>164836183
That's textbook corruption. That's literally the nr.1 cause of guild self destruction right here.
>>164837559
>1: How long till the fresh server is on?
https://countingdownto.com/countdown/elysium-pvp-launch-countdown-clock-b923634a-c8aa-4cf7-8019-d2cbf77bb537
>2: Should I go Undead or Orc Warlock?
Orc if you want the pet damage
undead if you're a memeing edgelord
>3: What are the best proffesions for a warlock?
tailoring and enchanting/skinning
>>164837559
7 hours~
>>164837559
7hr, UD, first aid.
>>164837593
>What's Bis mean?
Best in Slot, as in the best piece of gear you can have in that item slot.
prebis is Best in Slot excluding stuff that can only be obtained in raids.
>>164836641
i did /literallyvurtne/ in 2007 pleb
>>164837235
>>164837337
>>164837409
I feel really bad for the guy who wrote this, he seems so nice. :(
https://www.reddit.com/user/Edivon
What should I tell him?
>>164837349
>>164837376
Am I being memed or is gnome warrior legit?
I don't want to waste my time leveling a warrior only to find out I picked the wrong race.
I plan to tank btw.
I want to try out tanking back in vanilla when you couldn't just hit 1 button and everything glued on to you.
>>164837590
>>164836452
open it with notepad fucking retard
>>164837692
That's exactly what tanking is in vanilla
>>164837645
I agree. Fortunately it's a system that can easily work as long as it's a guild with enough dedicated core members who don't feel left out that they can fill at least most of a raid with them.
The real mistake is joining a /vg/ guild instead of a professional-acting good one.
ud mage or ud warcock
>>164837692
gnome warrior is legit only for pvp since you get a get out of snare free card
if you want to hardcore pvp tank go human, you'll need the hitrate
you can also consider nightelf since they have a sightly bigger hitbox and and can position the boss better
>>164837784
Warlock if you like being a special snowflake
Mage if you like fun
>>164836763
https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/24380-addon-castmodifier-tbc-and-above-like-conditionals-for-cast-macros/
here gay nerd
>>164837507
Im rolling warrior too :) noone else wanted so ill do it.
>>164837206
Who are you?!
>>164837356
Orc Shaman! no... Tauren Shaman!
>>164837784
shes got NO ASS
>>164837869
As a tauren shaman I would rather you go be a faggot paladin
>>164837692
I have bad news, tanking in vanilla is also just pressing one button over and over.
5 decides
>>164837989
No one cares enough to roll for your faggot cumslut self insert
>>164837989dwarf pally
>>164837989
neither
>fem dwarf masterrace
>>164837869
He is noone important!
You could be my healslut :3
>>164837989
kill self
>>164837989
fem night elf druid
>>164837843
Let's do our best!
>>164838097
reroll
>>164819419
should get pom and improved manashield for pvp server
I'm new here
Do you guys enjoy the pve and pvp aspects or is this thread p v"x" only?
>>164837529
Just thinking about dwarf only guilds always makes me want to roll one.
Rising to be the dominant guild, actively embargoing other races, going all-out khaz modan on skeletons, and worthy foe-tier orcs.
>>164838093
Heal... s-slut
SLUT?!
I couldn't possible do something like that!
>>164838279
we only really erp here
>>164837683
>>>164837337
>>>164837409
>I feel really bad for the guy who wrote this, he seems so nice. :(
>
>https://www.reddit.com/user/Edivon
>
>What should I tell him?
Well /vg/? Should I advise him to get into a western guild? What? He writes perfectly good English as you can see. How do I make his gameplay experience better?
>>164838284
...stallman?
>>164838294
Stop this gay role play shit faggot
>durrrrrrrrrrrrrrr hit rate on ONE weapontype that can be easily made up with just a pinch of other stats
>Dwarves literally have a "TAKE LESS DAMAGE" button but they're not the tank race
do you retards even play the game or just regurgitate what you've been told?
>>164838298
oh.
>>164838284
>not joining an all orc guild and re-enacting the sacking of stormwind
smhtbh
No! Nyaa~ Nyaaa~
*pounces on >>164838362*
>>164838370
The problem with tanking is holding aggro you dumbfuck not staying alive
so guys im confused do i just set my realmlist to 'set realmlist logon.elysium-project.org' and then wait 7 hours?
>>164838435
>spamming sunder
>hard
kek
>>164837529
Damn, true. Now I want to join a Dwarf/Gnome only guild with a couple of token druids.
>>164838491
It's not hard you imbecile, it's doing enough damage to keep the aggro which is what humans do better than dwarves no matter what.
>>164838538
Assmad lanklet detected. You will always have a 1 inch beard :^)
>>164838113
Yes :)
>>164838294
B-but you are shaman :O
>>164837206
Oh yeah! You're that guy who made me do "that" to him in Darnassus...
Please... don't make me do it again... I will show you my secret grinding spot.. that will make up for it r-right?
>>164838537
Gnomes are acceptable if they accept dwarves as their overlords.
>>164838647
Why would I be upset? You're a fucking idiot who doesn't understand tanking. Enjoy being unkillable while the boss whipes your group because you couldn't hold aggro because you chose to play a manlet. :)
>>164838687
>>164838659
>>164838421
>>164838294
>>164838113
>>164838093
>>164837869
>>164837843
im literally gay and this is still too faggy for me
>>164837559
>>164837608
Yeah don't forget the cannibalism racial. Pretty amazing combined with life tap.
Plus ud's have the better casting animations and orc better melee.
>>164838465
please respond
this is confusing
>>164838538
>tfw your tank goes down, but at least he had 0.43% more threat than he would have had without the racial
so noble
wow
why don't you link me your tps parse on realmplayers
you sack of human garbage
Reminder : if you want to be a cute anime roll a female nigh elf
http://www.strawpoll.me/12049438
http://www.strawpoll.me/12049438
http://www.strawpoll.me/12049438
http://www.strawpoll.me/12049438
>>164838762
>being gay makes you a fag
top kek
>>164838776
Yeah pretty much. Make an account as well.
Also if you want keybinds and set up your UI etc. you can do that now on the old server.
>>164837989
qt human
>>164838776
yep. once you log in, and the servers up, itll be in the realm list in the ui of the game.
>>164838804
No one has ever said "thank god I had this dwarf tank"
>>164838776
Yes buddy, there will be 3 servers when you try to log in.
1. Nost PVP
2. Nost PVE
//these are the old servers
3. Elysium PVP
//this will be the new server
>>164838823
no but Im IRL a faggy femmy twink, and reading shit like that still manages to make me cringe.
like... i want to fuck guys, not pretend to be a little girl with another guy whos pretending to be a little girl, while we pretend to be boys pretending to be little girls.
>>164838804
>yfw weapon skill racial also reduces damage taken by reducing boss parries and therefore parry haste
B T F O
>>164838370
You now realize that human slutposters make up ANY excuse to roll human. First its weapon skill, but then you might argue: "weapon skill does literally nothing for a tank as abilities cannot deal a glancing blow and the overwhelming majority of your rage comes from being hit"
Suddenly the entire sperg mega tryhard attitude vanishes and makes way for "I just like the way they look".
Pathetic retards. Atleast don't pull the tryhard argument when you don't care at all about this shit. Dwarf is objectively the master race tank, as demonstrated by NOPE who had their fastest ever BWL run on a dwarf maintank.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12049193/
VOTE HOW DEAD THE OLD SERVER WILL BE
http://www.strawpoll.me/12049193/
>>164838932
so you're a male dyke
>>164838976
Did you just reply to your own post since the discussion got too mean for you?
>>164838976
>yfw weapon skill racial allows for more raid dps by allowing more threat by dps players to be generated without pulling aggro
B T F O
>>164838932
Weirdo
>>164839037
>for more raid dps by allowing more threat by dps players to be generated without pulling aggro
Yes, that extra 0.4% dps which translates to 0.003% more threat on your white swings really makes a difference.
You think I'm exaggerating? Those are the ACTUAL TPS increase numbers people have theorycrafted out.
It's pathetic.
>still no tps parse links
So I know I'm a bit late and all, but where do you actually download the client?
The ones recommended by Elysium appear to be dead for me
>>164839093
Which is applied constantly. All the time. Whereas your shitty racial has a .00000005%uptime
>>164838723
Naturally. Also, we should restrict our gnome population to mages and warlocks, like we restrict the night elf population to druids.
>>164838932
dude, post pics.
>>164839093
>he thinks weapon skill only affects glancing
>he doesn't know about parry haste
>>164837208
So will i regret going human lock or should i just go and be UD like 40% of the rest of the server?
>>164839171
It's literally up every single fight, for some of them twice or thrice.
You're so stupid it hurts.
>Human slutposters on suicide watch
Take the BDC (Big Dwarven Dick)
Honestly just go UD Warlock, it will be waaaaaay more fun
t. Played human on old nost and ud on k2
>>164839223
>He rolled an inferior tank for a meme when stone form has real tangible utility.
You should really look at Naxx too while you're at it and write down all those nasty diseases that stop being a problem just because you're a Dwarf.
>>164839351
>dumbass replies to himself and then shitposts
embarrassing desu
>>164839414
>BTFO
>>164839414
>He thinks there's only one calling (you) out for your bullshit
>>164839414
>>164839223
>DAMAGE CONTROL
WHEN SERVER GOES UP?
>>164839414
m-muh samefag
>>164839409
you mean when naxx is released in 2020 and the server is long dead?
>they argue human vs dwarf main tank while night elf master race knows what's up
>>164839409
>He still doesn't know about parry haste
>He thinks he's a tank
>hoomans are best tanks
>no dorfs
>no hoomans
when will you faggots realise night elves are the superior tanks
1%dodge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meme racials
>>164839394
This to be quite honest
t. R10 gnome warlock who couldnt reach R13 solely because of my race
>>164839536
Dodge actively hurts you as a tank
>>164838732
>>164839494
Oh yea suddenly Naxx doesn't matter anymore, even though you went with the mega tryhard opinion that a hundredth of a percent in extra threat is worth going shitter human instead.
>Le double standard
KEEP YOUR MEAT UNDERGROUND
Is there a guide or video somewhere showing how to control mind-controlled units?
>>164839609
i'll keep my meat under your ground HAH
>>164839596
>He still thinks weapon skill only affects glancing
>He thinks he's talking to one person
Not everyone is a samefag you know...
:^)
Please don't roll an alliance warlock
t. Alliance warlock on fresh pvp realm circa 2020
>>164838805
>nigger elf
Fuck off
>>164839596
Human is the best aesthetically and stats wise though. It just makes sense
>>164839504
>He's plotting out another 0.5% dps decrease of the boss
>>164839572
In current content where no one cares about mitigation, you are correct.
>>164839692
It is objectively inferior as a tank. Even Nightelfs are better.
its 7/1 when will the server be up?
>>164839504
So tanking is about staying alive now? kek
>>164838370
People who human are fucking retarded. Only decent racial is perception to possibly cuck rogues and druids
>>164839692
Please -cough- cough- please... whatever you- -hacks and weazes- dont.. -cough- don't roll alliance warl-
>>164839738
Keep rationalizing your pathetic manlet with bad animations, weapon skill far outweighs any other racial
who is more degenerate?
burgers or scandinavians?
>>164839725
Yeah stoneform is a legit 30% boss dps decrease right?
:^)
>>164839789
Yea that's what you want to believe, but NOPE still switched to a Dwarf maintank, so you lose and I win.
>>164839747
Stop playing video games
>>164838976
Wow humans don't even look good. They look like they have downs.
>>164839803
You can math 10% armor yourself quite easily, plus the extra utility of bleeds, poison and diseases, which by itself is already better than the fantasy benefits you get from weapon skill as a tank.
>>164839692
>worst race next to gnomes
>most aesthetically pleasing
wow
>>164839810
Sulg rolled dwarf for the banter and no other reason.
>>164839810
>top guild switches to a better player who plays a worse race
I don't see the issue here
>>164839869
>He thinks they let people maintank for "bantz"
You're so fucking desperate right now.
>>164839870
That's the thing, it isn't worse
>Humans still on suicide watch
I'll be over here rolling the superior race. Enjoy geting kicked out of the party because of my superior intelligence on choosing the correct race combination for my warrior.
>>164839854
>You can math 10% armor yourself quite easily,
You should be able to provide it then right....?
:^)
>tfw too smart to play dwarf tank
some of you guys are alright
don't go to elysium today
>>164839692
>aesthetically
>stats wise
AHAHAHAHAHA
Why is this even an argument. This is a 14 year old game. People have theorycrafted this back when you shitters were crapping in diapers. Dwarf is better. End of discussion.
http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/3573-vanilla-112-addons-download/
>all these fucking addons
mother of god
what ones will i even need of these? rolling mage and tailoring/herbalism if it helps
>>164839784
alliance warlocks are a bunch of edgy kiddies sitting in a taverns basement anyway.
there is literally no excuse to roll alliance as a warlock.
>>164839952
>not using them all
pleb
>>164839945
>Dwarf is better. End of discussion.
WROOOOONGG
>>164839810
Don't talk about my guild like you know it FAGGOT
>>164839504
>>164839223
>animecuck
>posts retarded shit
Wew
>>164839945
sauce
>>164839918
Easy. 3.1% reduction pre any sort of modifier on my tank gear which is 8/8 T2 on nost right now.
So it beats any parry haste benefit even in the most optimal circumstances by a factor of 100 or so
>>164840041
Elitistjerks
>>164839860
>>164839928
You know armor is modeled for humans and then stretched to fit every other class... Right?>>164839945
>>164839993
It is though. Kill yourself tranny
>>164840020
>B-But a-anime
Thanks for conceding :^)That's manga btw too friend :^)
>>164839993
The assmad
>>164839952
LMAO
>>164840001
You're not convincing anyone here, bub
>>164840060
Link to an actual thread, webarchive or otherwise
>>164839918
BTFO
>>164840072
No it's not. Keep grasping tho
>>164840134
It is...
>>164840053
>3.1% reduction pre any sort of modifier on my tank gear w
You forgot 8 sec uptime vs constant
B T F O
Post your nostalrius companions
>>164840146
Prove it then.
You people seriously think we're having this human vs dwarf debate for the first time or what? We've had it back in Vanilla RETAIL with a very conclusive answer, most guilds ran a Dwarf by the end of it. You rolled dwarf for tanking, just as you rolled human for DPS.
Any deviation from this PROVEN trend from retail is based on shitty server scripts.
The debate has been settled for like what, 12 years now?
>>164840053
With a shit uptime
wew lad
>>164840191
>no source
lmao
>>164840154
You forgot burst phases vs constant
It still beats parry haste benefits by a factor of 10 over the entire fight when used right
Much MUCH higher on anything that uses bleeds, poison or diseases, which if you ever went into Naxx is a HUGE deal.
But you didn't, so you have no basis to even debate me. Get lost.
>>164840214
Even with the uptime, it's better, tranny cuck.
>>164840154
>>164840214
Not him but you're fucking retarded. Watching you pitifully samefag now is funny
>>164840154
>Tranny conveniently forgets that most bosses have enrage phases
>>164840185
See: ugly stretched textures on every nonhuman class. :)
>caring about a less than .1% difference when 1.12 talents, current game knowledge and skill, better computers and internet, and constant consumable and world buff usage means bosses die in less than a minute
can you tone down the autism
>>164840285
cook this dick in your mouth lmao
>>164840284
Are you blind?
Is there a countdown ? I live in the Netherlands, when is fresh starting ?
Is hunter really bad at endgame ? First time playing vanilla is hunter worth it for fresh start
>>164840154
>>164840214
Nice samefag desu
Next you're gonna post a picture showing only one of the posts with a (you) even though pic related is possible with 3 brain cells.
>>164840303
Dude, stop posting you colossal nigger
>>164840191
Furor ran barbarian warrior as MT even though it was worse because no stun immunity.
>scandinavians
>humancuck trannies on suicide watch
>>164840303
I'm not gonna math out trivial math like that because you're a stubborn subhuman that refuses to admit defeat. Divide the percentage by the length of the fight, there you go. Do it yourself.
It's still better than parry haste
It would still be better if the fight lasted 25 fucking minutes you mong.
What RP addon is everyone using?
>>164840395
>Shitposter goes full retard
Dude you lost, let it go
>>164840395
Epic argument!
>>164840395
Nice shitpost opinion
>>164840345
That's what I want to ask everyone that plays dwarf with their fucked up squished textures and Down's syndrome weapon animations
Alliance civil war when?
>>164840464
>Posts are several minutes apart
Wait a minute, you think I took the screenshot from THIS thread
God you're slow
When I think I have debilitating autism, I just come to nosg to happily remind myself I could be so much worse. You bastards are entertaining as fuck.
https://countingdownto.com/countdown/elysium-pvp-launch-countdown-clock-b923634a-c8aa-4cf7-8019-d2cbf77bb537
there niggers, send me a potato for this
>>164840428
Discord for ERP anddeez nutsfor regular RP
Gottem'
>>164840464
>deleted
LMAO
>make an outrageous claim which I personally believe, but will always be looked down upon because the masses have been memed into submission
>tens of anons from all different walks of life come to my defense, steel my heart, and return to me the courage that was eked out of me with truth and wisdom
Be good, lads.
Be good.
>Loses argument
>Spirals into complete assposting territory
>Retreats into safespace of his tranny circlejerk
Pathetic
>>164840549
My fucking nigga.
What is the best class to roll in order to enjoy playing the objectively superior male dwarf master race?
>>164840537
Rekt
>>164840549
>tanking is about staying alive
wew lad
>>164840557
>>164840549
Kys you fucking manlet lol
>>164840587
All of them
>>164840609
Shoo tranny
>>164837002
I actually love healing raids but don't like healing 5 mans, at the same time i love tanking 5 mans but don't like tanking raids, so pally is right down my alley
>>164840508
No, really. I need to know what the addon for character bios and whatnot is. Like flagrsp or myrp or whatever they were called.
>>164840587
femdorf priest
mandorf warrior with rifle
why is the pve server always having technical issues? thing just shutdown and same thing happened a few days ago even tho it has like 50% less population baka i just want to heal 5 mans on my druid while i wait for the fresh server reeeeeeeeeee
I feel this is related to the tank argument and theorycraftign in general.
>>164840661
This isn't BC. Paladins sadly suck at tanking. They can't hold aggro, suck at building threat and require getting crit. I mean it's not impossible, but the run will take a really long time due to constant OOM.
Can someone tell me why is nobody talking about how bad the scripting is on Elysium? It's nowhere near as old Nostalrius, it doesn't feel like they are using the same code at all. Very basic starting quests are broken, floating gatherable items, you float in the after gryphon arrival, Blink doesn't even Blink you forward so it's useless most of the time in PVP, you can't ease fall damage with Blink because it elevates you up the sky, Mobs from higher grounds often elevate to you, extreme lag makes you feel like playing some browser game, most of the escort and defend quests are broken, unable to turn them in, can't pick them up at all, if the NPC dies they don't fail, AFK and DND is broken now for no reason, get stuck in ghost form and no GM responds to you, have to spam General chat for hours for a Shaman to resurrect you for a good amount of gold, some quests are none existent for no reason, dungeon bosses just give you a yell and auto-attack you no scripting whatso ever, disenchanting loot windows stucks on screen until you loot some mob or logout, you take fall damage for jumping in an elevator. I could go on and on. I tried to report thesr bugs but no one seems to care not even the players, they just shrug their shoulders and move on...
Help?!
i want to roll a priest but i don't know how to make money
and no, i'm not erping since nobody actually pays for erp and i'll be rolling a male
>Muh weapon skill
>Rolls a tauren hunter
>Rolls an orc hunter
>Muh pve advantage
>Rolls an undead rogue
>Rolls an undead mage
>Rolls an undead warlock
>Rolls a human mage
>Rolls a human warlock
>Rolls a human priest
Why do wannabe tryhards have no standards and no principles when it comes to rolling the objectively correct race/class combination. All of those listed above are inferior to something else. All of them. Yet you see them constantly and especially from people who are normally the first ones to argue about how humans are better at something.
>Yfw you realize it's all just an excuse to roll human
Why does 4chan hate hunters so much? I'm gonna go for NELF hunter :')
>>164840786
This is female human rollers in a nutshell.
my friend wants us to roll ally but i want to play rogue and UD is the best choice.
what to do?
>>164840915
Dwarf rogue
>>164840857
Don't need an excuse to roll human, in fact all I'm seeing is excuses to roll a deformed manlet human
Is 100k honor per week enough to get to r10 in 2 months or so? I'm pretty shit at pvp so i'll just slug through em.
Currently r4.
>>164840915
Roll UD and camp your friend until he rolls with you
>>164840857
As a long time priest, I actually wish I had rolled Human sometimes. There's definitely a case for them: the spirit buff. In practice, obviously, it's negligible, but I am a total number whore who would do anything for that extra tablespoon of mana regen and heal value.
>>164840915
Human rogue if you want to do any sort of PvE with swords.
>>164840915
Just play what YOU want to play. It'll be more enjoyable that way, trust me.
>>164840946
only the priest have dwarf as a superior alternative, but thanks for projecting.
troll hunter > tauren hunter
troll hunter > orc hunter
orc and troll rogues > undead rogues
troll mages > undead mages
orc warlocks > undead warlocks
gnome mage > human mage
gnome warlock > human warlock
dwarf priest > human priest
these are facts. Yet typically the same people who are the firsts to point out any pve advantage humans might have are also the first ones to abandon their principles when it works against them and they'd have to normally roll a non-human.
on the second thought fuck """friends"""
>getting disconnected the second I try to log in
Servers still down?
>>164840740
dorfs are men, no such thing as femdorf.
>>164841004
>human
LOL
>>164841056
I am referring to the shitposts above wherein people rationalize their choice to play a short fat manlet over a human
what's best race for hunter?
>get an gigantic hard on and have so much fun when tanking even tho it's just sunder armor spam
>if i roll warrior on fresh i wont be able to be ahead of the herd
>like 40% of people go warrior and only 2 are needed for a 40 man raid
>have to be a normie and roll a caster or rogue
J-JUST
Officilal SUPER SNOWFLAKE class race combinations 2.0:
>Horde
Warrior: Troll
Rogue: Troll
Hunter: Tauren
Druid: Hurr
Mage: Troll
Warlock: Orc
Priest: Troll
Shaman: Troll
>Alliance
Warrior: Gnome
Rogue: Dwarf
Hunter: Dwarf
Druid: Hurr
Mage: None, Human and Gnome are equally popular
Warlock: Same as Mage
Priest: Night Elf
Shaman: Troll
>>164841131
Troll
>>164841131
PvP orc PvE debatable, probably troll because +hitchance
>>164840793
>Can someone tell me why is nobody talking about how bad the scripting is on Elysium? It's nowhere near as old Nostalrius, it doesn't feel like they are using the same code at all
Because no one gives a shit. It's LE BIG SERVER ON LE REDDIT
>>164841131
Don't listen to idiots, tell hunter sucks dick and berserking is broken
>>164841107
Not him but I was arguing from a purely numerical standpoint Dwarf is better for tanking, which it is.
On the contrary, people are looking for excuses to play Human instead of min-maxing.
>>164841173
Best warlock is orc confirmed.
In PvE server Poplockndrop (which is by far the best lock in the server) is an orc warlock.
>>164841173
I've seen more troll shamans than tauren shamans.
>>164841173
>All those Troll
Feels bad man
>>164841241
>arguing from a purely numerical standpoint
with zero numbers
>>164841271
Snowflake = Rare
Most warlocks are undead, it doesn't mean that they're actually better, just like Humans, Undead attract a lot of people.
>>164841131
Alliance:
Dwarf - Stoneform very strong against rogues in PvP
Night Elf - Shadowmeld can be useful when combined feign death for soloing some dungeons
Horde:
Orc - Stun resist is godly in PvP, increased pet damage. Blood fury does NOT work for ranged.
Troll - Beserking (increased attack speed) is godly in PvE, trolls also get bow skill
Tauren - War stomp is good in PvP, increase hp also decent
With all of that in mind, my personal selection would be:
Alliance - Dwarf
Horde - Troll
>>164841241
You're rationalizing your choice to play dwarf when human is better aesthetically. Stone form may be good but running around as a fat gremlin with fucked up textures isn't worth it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw
>>164841307
you're just making it harder to choose ><
>>164841315
See this kind of argument I can understand, if you don't care about the upper like 1.5% of efficiency.
I respect people like that.
What I don't respect is people who try to twist reality to make it look Humans are the best at every single class they can play, when more than half of them are not, including protection warriors.
They do this while SIMULTANEOUSLY only caring about aesthetics. As if they want the server owners to just make their fantasy a reality.
>>164841173
How the fuck is dwarf hunter a snowflake combo, literally every other hunter is a dwarf because they want to be epic cinematic man
>>164841206
How can this world be like this, why does it have to be like this? I can't handle this.....
Crestfall when?
>>164841360
Just play whatever race you like most. You can't really go wrong on horde side anyway.
>>164841373
Best prots are nightelves right?
>>164841373
>people who try to twist reality to make it look Humans
sort of like people who say that 3% for 8 seconds is undoubtedly superior while doing zero math to prove it right?
I cant decide between HUNTER dwarf (male) or NE (female).
My brain tells me dwarf is so good in PvP but NE animation are skin is so great while dwarves look like shit :(
https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/project-2348
>-==AsmoMOD Features==-
>:::Auto breaks:::
>- Automatically break ALL impairing effects if you have the appropriate PvP Trinket/Ability (Works for fear/stun/charm/sleep/immobilization/slow), it will use berseker rage, then WotF, then PvP trinket in order, depending on availability. Gnomes will use escape artist for slows and roots and Dwarves will use Stoneform to get rid of crippling poison.
>mfw this is actually a thing
This feels like cheating. I understand the addons like autograts where you congratulate people who say ding, thats cute. Also stuff like autorepair, or UI mods, etc.
But this is above and beyond that. If you follow this to its logical extension then you basically end up as an automaton. Mindlessly letting your macros and addons play for you.
Thoughts?
>>164841423
Early game yes, late game no.
Nothing beats a Dwarf in AQ and Naxx. Not even Tauren.
>>164841373
But humans are better than dwarves at keeping aggro....
>>164841206
>>164841385
I'm gonna make UD mage, thoughts? Only because I heard WotF is OP
>>164841454
By an insignificant amount.
Their entire aggro gain is MAYBE an extra white swing over the course of a 3 minute fight.
>>164840969
You'll need at least 200k for R10. 300-400k for R11, 400-500 for R12, 600+ for R13.
>>164841173
You forgot about paladin shitlord
>>164841478
WoTF wont save you from my Mortal strike unless you're FF then ill be leaving you alone
>>164841495
>he thinks that weapon skill only affects glancing blows
never gonna get it right huh......
>>164841495
That's all it takes though.... Dwarves will always be worse at keeping aggro, the number one hardest thing in vanilla. Your healers will never struggle to keep you alive in this baby version of the game.
>>164841518
Fuck
Obviously Dwarf.
>>164841478
>WotF is OP
only against the non existent alliance warlocks
>>164841543
>Reply to a post complaining about aggro
>Complain that my reply deals with his aggro claims
Are you deaf?
>>164841443
WHAT
I NEED THIS
THIS IS THE BEST THING
WHY DON'T I HAVE THIS
What's the actual alliance discord
What class for beginner and not extremely gear dependent ?
>>164841580
Weapons skill also reduces your chance to be
DODGED
PARRIED
MISS
AND BLOCK
WHICH ALL AFFECT AGGRO YOU RETARD
>>164841546
By that logic Dwarf is better because they get some extra Stamina over Humans.
You're stupid.
is this a good leveling spec for pvp?
>>164841520
I'm new, I don't think anything will save me from anyone
>>164841628
Yes, by 0.04% per point
Ie. Nothing.
>>164841606
its in the OP addon pack
>>164841620
pick a squishy, shaman, or druid obviously
something that doesnt use a weapon primarily duh
>>164841173
nothing is more snowflake than nelf priest, giving up everything because you wanted to be an anime
>>164841443
Anyone with the brain would know that this shit is bad for you. You dont need to break every cc enemy send at you, you dont need to break first fear you get. Basically, if you think that this is anywhere useful kys.
>>164841659
>>164841659
>.000006% armor over 6 minute fight
i.e. nothing
WHY NONE WANTS TO GO TO MARA I WANT THRASH BLADE REEEEEE
>>164841648
Seems like you died, so obviously not.
Post your favourite
>starting area
>capital city
>non-capital town/village
>neutral town/village
>zone
>>164841659
You realize that "expertise" (weapon skill in vanilla) was by far the most valuable threat stat for tanks due to it double dipping on dodge and parry, right?
Male or female troll for my huntard?
Would most players agree that WotLK was the last good WoW explansion?
Just curious: are there or were there plans to transition Nost/Ely into The Burning Crusade?
why does this Alex kid catch so many dislikes on his videos?
>>164841801
Male because in Vanilla a lot of good weaps and bow and bow animation is god tier.
>>164838976
>First its weapon skill, but then you might argue: "weapon skill does literally nothing for a tank as abilities cannot deal a glancing blow and the overwhelming majority of your rage comes from being hit"
It is all about weapon skill, because I'm not going to be tanking, I'm going to be DPSing. Tanking is something I'll begrudgingly do outside of raids.
>>164838976
>NOPE who had their fastest ever BWL run on a dwarf maintank
"Fastest ever run" of a raid is 90% about strategy, optimising worldbuffs and consumable use.
Night Elf or Tauren Druid? Why?
>>164841663
Does it also work with the spider belt and other more obscure items?
>>164841806
Nostalrius was going to go into TBC, and even had a PTR for it already set up. Elysium has no plans for that at the moment.
>>164841716
Glad someone agrees.
>>164841719
You propably think weapon skill gets you even anywhere on this server, when they use the correct skill formula where 308 is the hard cap
You should talk to the devs more my dude.
>>164841806
Somwhere down the road but the server won't last that long. This new one definitely won't make it to naxx and the old one may not make it to naxx in September
>>164841806
TBC ruined WoW
>>164841801
Do you like big tusks or phat thighs?
>>164841801
Female, Male Trolls only make good Casters
>>164841841
So I guess spellpower is a useless stat for mages then since it only gives 1 per point right?
You fucking moron, it's the best stat by weight for tanks by a massive fucking margin for threat
>>164841819
He's handsome(average), Tall(manlet) and has a large Penis(small).
>>164841786
>Elwynn forest
>Stormwind
>Lakeshire
>Booty Bay
>Redridge Mountains
King of comfy here fite me
>>164841856
>It is all about weapon skill, because I'm not going to be tanking, I'm going to be DPSing. Tanking is something I'll begrudgingly do outside of raids.
This is an acceptable reason to roll a Human.
Rolling it as a maintank isn't.
Very important distinction.
>>164841895
You're wrong, but you can of course keep believeing it.
>>164841806
I would agree but im a retard. I loved WoTLK because thats the lase one I played on retail and I enjoyed the setting a lot. I really liked the raids too although people shit on them.
>>164841786
Mulgore
Undercity
Xroads
Gadgetzan
Hinterlands
>>164841873
hahahah is this true? fucking dank.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 - Rogue
9, 0 - Warlock
0-9 Undead
>>164839952
>what ones will i even need
KTM threat meter (or whatever other one you know). That's it.
Maybe also rais_autoshot if you're a Hunter
20 minutes later I'm not even done going through the A's on this addon pack jesus christ.
>>164841861
Figure it out for yourself I will not be using that addon.
>>164841895
>you can get 300+ spellpower easily
>you can only get 5 skill as a tank unless you meme around with net loss threat weapons such as mala
holy false equivalence batman
>>164841928
>no u
nice response
>>164841873
Isn't the cap higher against bosses/63s?
>>164841786
>Tirisfal
>Ironforge
>Darkshire
>Everlook
>Felwood
>>164841786
>Teldrassil
> IF
>probably Darkshire
>Gadgetzan
>Felwood
>>164841786
Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Ooh, they're red, white and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the chief"
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh
But when the taxman comes to the door
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no millionaire's son, no
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no
Yeah, yeah
Some folks inherit star spangled eyes
Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
Ooh, they only answer More! more! more! y'all
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no military son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, one
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one, no no no
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate son, no no no
>>164841990
No, that's against level 63 (bosses).
Here's the table
So conclusion: if you roll a human for MUH SKILL STACKING you'll be disappointed.
>>164841786
>Orc
>Thunderbluff
>darkshire
>booty bay
>wpl
>>164841981
So gaining 5 spellpower vs getting 0 is useless then right?
The point is that it's the most valuable stat BY WEIGHT
Dublos decide my race and class
Night Elf or Tauren Druid? Why???
>>164841876
When you say won't make it, do you mean that it'll get shut down or something before it's able to do so?
>>164842034
heh.
What's the alliance /vg/ guild?
>>164840361
>Is hunter really bad at endgame ?
There are too many Hunters fighting for raid spots, only MM spec is viable, their quest for epic bow is complete balls, you're rolling against fury warrs and rogues for your prebis (and devilsaur set is a nightmare to get), you're expected to know all sorts of kiting strats against certain bosses, and your T1/T2/T3 gear scales so badly you'll struggle to even be in the top 10 dps in a 40man.
They're the worst endgame pve class.
endgame pvp is pretty good for hunters though.
>>164842040
Not plotted: parry dodge block limits, but they follow the same curve, so it's
+- 0.32% for all relevant stats at 308
all values 0.2 for 305
>>164842098
In one way or another, yes. The devs will either fuck it up (as they have already started doing) and people will move on or they will take the money and run
is there a mage-only guild?
>>164842063
you're comparing gaining 0->5 spell power by losing the equivalent of 50 spell power.
>>164841981
I agree that human is a solid tank choice, but I'd just like to note to you that Maladath is a solid tanking weapon (top 3 currently available) now that they fixed the amount of rage you get for being hit.
You no longer have enough rage to be spamming heroic strike every swing.
1. Thunderfury
2. Crul
3. Maladath
You want high, slow-ish DPS weapons for tanking now.
>>164841819
I actually like listening to his videos while grinding,but i enjoy listening to nostalrius videos in general while leveling, his videos aren't bad at all.
They hate him because of multiple reasons, idk all of them but he once ganked a lv 17 hunter as a 25 druid and lost, the hunter made a thread about it on reddit and it became a big thing, he's not a very good player overall and everyone here is a fucking high warlord obv so yeah.
Also he seems pretty chill on his vids but he's different on stream, he even mentioned in one of his recent videos that he sorta regrets saying shit to so many random people
UD mage or UD rogue? yes, im faggot and going for most OP shit
>>164842085
neither racials benefit a druid more
horde druids will gets their heals sniped less if you're the kind of person that cares about healing meters
>>164842208
It's good when you're not a human
shit otherwise, see: >>164842040
>>164842157
you'll pass the cap
>>164842172Night Elf or Tauren Druid?? Why?
>>164841786
>Wandering isle
>Shattrath
>Ulduar
>Dalaran
>Deepholm
What are some good addons I should install before the server opens?
>>164842149
<Salty Memes Allowed>
>>164842216
>he's different on stream,
He gets into roid rage every 5 minutes and bans half of the chat, so that only the people licking his asshole are left.
Also, he's a scammer and a piece of shit.
WARRIOR or ROGUE ? still cant decide
pros and cons please
more specifically im thinking about arms and combat
pros:
both are best dps
warrior could tank making it easier to form a grp
rogue more reliable dpswise tho
cons:rogue less buttons to press than warrior (less skillful)
warrior hard to level, rage starving
what else ? inb4 rogues can stealth
sell me the product
>>164841786
>favourite
>starting area
Mulgore or Teldrassil
>capital city
Ironforge
>non-capital town/village
Astranaar
>neutral town/village
Gadgetzan
>zone
1kN
>>164842267
Just play normally and install shit when you want to improve certain parts of the game
That being said, I couldn't imagine life without an AH addon like Aux
>>164842172
Good to know. I'm curious because I've never really played vanilla properly.
I'm not sure whether to play on the fresh, and get to be at the same level as everyone else just like when retail came out (never got to experience that).
Or roll on Nost which would guarantee more raid opportunities since it's ahead in progression.
>>164841786
>BE starting area, those magical creatures are pretty cool
>Ironforge
>dunno
>Booty Bay
>Silithus (UNDERRATED COME AT ME)
>>164842332
Don't underestimate just HOW shit it is to get to 60 and get gear as a warrior
Most quit along the way.
what class for female gnome?
Uhh so do we have a horde guild?
I look forward to killing you horde niggers all day
The real question is the best horde warrior race.
God I don't want to be a furry.
horde or ally druid?
Is troll priest really not viable for pvp?
>>164842385
>Don't underestimate just HOW shit it is to get to 60 and get gear as a warrior
this
never reached max level as warrior because it was so soul crushing levelling as one
i just ran instances all the time because it got so boring, Pvp and dungeons are fucking fun as a warrior but fuck me i never want to go through that levelling experience ever again
>>164842393
>female gnome?
Rogue or Warlock, Pink twintails
>>164842423
For tanking? Tauren
For DPS? Depends on how weapon skill works and if berserking is broken or not.
>>164841786
Blood elf one
Ironforge
that troll village in tanaris
--
stv
>>164842414
Neck yourself, furry.
>>164842427
Hex of weakness is actually pretty legit in BGs since mages are too busy being vurtne to decurse.
>>164842462
Berserking is broken
I know that I want to play hunter, but can't decide between horde or alliance. I mostly want to pvp, so alliance seems better but I really like horde...
>>164842520
How broken are we talking about?
I used to PvP all day every day, but I'm thinking of just chilling and seeing dungeons. I love Vanilla. Thinking of going female undead priest and healing my way through life.
I actually don't mind the idea of being some weird ugly female dwarf priest, but is that too tryhard?
>>164842520
Broken OP or broken not working on Elysium?
>>164842267
Quality of life essentials.
>!ImprovedErrorFrame
>!OmniCC (Shows ability cooldowns)
>Aux-Addon (Simple advanced AH Search/Sell)
>Postal (Auto open mail, Auto send multiple Items)
>OneBag and OneBank
>QuestLevel
You could also get
!Questie (nu_Blizzard like questing overlay)
!AtlastLoot Enhanced (Dungeon loot/map guide)
>Playing on old nost
>Not waiting for Crestfall and their suprior scripting and Chinese ban
>Not playing on Fresh and developing the most optimal leveling route to use on Crestfall
Heh... thanks for beta testing, Oldcucks...
>>164842414
Same here desu
Fuck these horde niggers
>>164842562
>I actually don't mind the idea of being some weird ugly female dwarf priest, but is that too tryhard?
It's not about it being tryhard, it's about stopping the poor babies from running away when you're trying to heal themand being invited to raids constantly
>>164842568
Broken as in not working
>>164842562
I was the same way. It worked out pretty well.
It hurts a little when you end up respeccing out of shadow, though.
When is the new server going to come up? Did they give a specific time?
>>164841928
From the TBC EJ warrior tank guide, only because vanilla info is nearly impossible to find on internet archive.
The general concept still applies.
>>164842427
martyrdom + berserking has helped me out of some pickles.
Reminder to join the official /vg/ horde discord
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
>>164842615
Shut up freshcuck
Enjoy your stupid gay server
>>164842690
Tomorrow (or today), and yes.
>>164842615
>Vanilla is about leveling to 60 asap, so you can run UBRS and... wait you need 15 people... um... hmm, I guess you could farm runecloth!
>>164842427
Troll anything isn't viable.
So salty dogs still doesnt have a leader right? Can anyone drop me a alliance discord invite link?
>>164842743
Let's be honest - there will be a lot of people hitting 60 really fast. You'd need to be a complete no-life to get there before the first 100 or so other players.
Join the official hype discord
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
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>>164842702
>TBC
Weapon skill was completely rehauled in TBC you dumb retard. None of this applies.
Look up the patchnotes of 2.0.1 and 2.3.0 you infinite nigger.
>my literal reaction when you posted this
>>164842809
>posted from my iPhone
>>164842771
why would you go ally
just a bunch of pathetic virgins and cucks
>>164842796
how many of them will be tanks/healers though
>>164842868
Only the Druids. Good point.
>>164842835
Only manlet beta virgins roll troll.
>he still isnt in the official discord
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
>>164842868
I'm gonna nolife a horde warrior to 60. So there's me I guess.
>>164842826
It changed aspects to glancing blows and converted a hard number to rating just like they did for hit and crit. The general concept still applies.
The important part refers to dodge and parry
>>164842937
dude... discord PUKES. ok?
>>164842985
Oh that? Which was already explained how it is ONE FIFTH of a SINGLE PERCENTAGE POINT?
That?
>report cross faction farming chinks hoarding the mobs for themselves
>pottu himself replies within a minute
i'm impressed
OFFICIAL LEVELING TIER LIST
>TOP TIER
Hunter
Warlock
>HIGH TIER
Mage
Druid
>MEH TIER
Paladin
Priest
Shaman
Rogue
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edv-F05N7h8 TIER
Warrior
will alterac valley actually be played
>>164843038
The only thing of note that changed in TBC was the conversion from a % based number to a rating, the underlying mechanic stayed the same.
Post something of substance or shut the fuck up
>>164843065
>druid
>0 downtime
>not top tier with the other two classes that have 0 downtime
>>164842226
> im faggot and going for most OP shit
Dwarf rogue.
>>164843070
There will be no AV for like a year.
>>164843070
On AV weekends definitely.
Black Lotus can allegedly spawn there.
>>164843070
(w)horde guild name should be PUKETARDS
keep posting feet
>>164842834
Nah i think that was more of an Android post iphone fags are busy spamming minecraft forums
>>164843094
You do realize that the 0.04% per weapon skill point is documented fact, right?
Times 5 = 0.2%
Like you're not arguing against this shit for real rightnow?
>>164843046
How do you report on this server? I want to report people badmouthing Chinese players.
>>164843070
>>164843065
>JUST tier: warrior
fixed
>>164843115
all classes have 0 downtime dummy
Official discord:
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
Horde Mage: Troll or Undead?
>>164843123
gay
>>164843173
the ? mark on the menu bar (help and support). works just like retail
>>164843154
No, I'm not, my point is that skill/expertise is the most valuable threat stat by weight for a tank. You sperging out about how how much the racial is worth is irrelevant. All racials don't amount to much, exactly like dwarf's .000006% armor per fight.
>>164843197
Warrior does until you hit like level 25
>>164843226
Trolls are useless.
>>164843115
Druids do have 0 downtime but they can't handle the extreme level range of quests that Hunters and Warlocks can, or solo elites.
They're high tier along with mages because although they're as fast in theory, they need to be played a specific way in order to keep up, whereas you can play a hunter in all sorts of ways and still breeze to 60.
How useless is healing in PvP? I never played a healer in Vanilla, so I'm worried that shit dies too fast for anyone to even appreciate or acknowledge my existence in BGs.
>>164843226
>rolling troll ever
retard
Did I just fix vanilla hybrid classes? R8
>>164843294
Just find yourself r14 warrior and keep healing it.
>>164843294
Healing is always welcomed in terms of PvP and PvE. If you pair yourself with a warrior, you and him are a stopping power.
>>164843294
>How useless is healing in PvP?
>>164843294
healing is op, erases mistakes
>>164843294
PvP healers are basically tanks. No one dies until they die.
>>164843254
It's really not because only a fraction of a fraction of a percent changes for any meaningful weapon skill addition for tanks, wheras the Dwarf passive provides a substantial, proactive and useful benefit.
For short fights it's literally 100 times the worth of +5 skill.
The worst case is a fight that lasts 3 minutes, or a multiple of that, because that's the cooldown.
And this is exclusive to fights without any poison, diseases or bleeds. Later you have A LOT of those. You have no idea how useful stone form is for example huhuran, or half the bosses in naxx.
That alone is reason enough to roll a Dwarf. I'd wager that stone form WITHOUT armor increase would STILL be better than +5 skill.
>>164843341
kill yourself catashitter
>>164843254
>>164843154
Also the .2% applies to parry, dodge, miss and block individually, giving effectively .8% hit with the added bonus of reducing boss parry hasting and some extra crit to boot AND a bonus to glancing blows
I'm sure that anyone with a brain knows that ~1% hit is nothing to shit on dps wise.
>>164843341
1.6/10
>>164843483
1% hit is about 18 attack power
be my guest if you want to trade. You'd be making a bad deal, period.
>>164843459
You're still trying to argue that survivability is greater than threat. It's not.
>>164843459
>naxx
IN TWO YEARS
>>164843459
>wheras the Dwarf passive provides a substantial, proactive and useful benefit.
for a 3 min fight you're literally gaining .3% damage reduction from the racial
>>164843569
Let me ask you: Do you run in dps leather gear as your maintank? After all threat is always better than survivability.
The answer is no, you don't. There is a cutoff point. And it's at the weapon skill.
5 hours left
Should I play Transistor?
>it's a /nosg/ spergs about racials episode
i'm rolling nelf rogue and there is nothing you can do about it
is there a way to improve loading screen times?
>>164843609
Sleep for 4h, take 1h to prepare for launch.
>>164843580
Actually, I was wrong, it's .13%
>>164843650
lol enjoy not being first pick on a raid group for naxx in 2 years shitter.
any spots for hunters in alliance guild ?
>>164843785
lol NO!!!
>>164843580
It's more. You just made me log onto my warrior to double check.
You're forgetting that it stacks with inspiration.
You're forgetting that it stacks with BoK, as agility increases armor.
You're forgetting all the consumables that it stacks with.
And so on.
The gist of it is, that it for a 3 minute fight, the absolute WORST case, it gives you a benefit of
1.91% reduction at my current gear level, which is almost FIVE TIMES the reduction you get from +5 weapon skill. For a lucifron fight, which lasts like 50 seconds even on medium good guilds, the recution goes up much more and reaches a high point of almost 6%. Now we're at FIFTEEN TIMES better than the human racial.
You have no ground to stand on, even in the absolute worst possible way, the dwarf racial blows the human racial out of the water.
It's over, you lost.
>>164843881
>blah blah blah survivability
>blah blah I can survive for 8 months of molten core real good blah blah blah
Just stop
Do i warlock, priest or hunter guys? I can't decide. I enjoy healing and getting into a group easily, but i hate not being able to actually world PvP while gathering herbs unless i'm shadow, which i won't be.
Help me decide.
>>164843946
Stop posting, seriously, it's embarassing at this point.
>>164843946
Damage Control
>>164843580
>>164843881
Fucking rekt
>>164843946
Haha rekt
>>164843881
>1.91% reduction at my current gear level
Post how you calculated this
>>164843946
>Moving goalposts
>>164844000
Blah blah survivability is better than threat for molten core blah blah blah
Stop posting any time
Reminder salty cucks still has no leader after literal months and is filled with autistic cliquefags
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
>>164843650
> i'm rolling nelf rogue
Why would you that to yourself? Have you seen how shitty their melee 1h animation?
>>164844032
Take the armor formula, add up all the bonusses, apply 10%, math out the net gain from 10% + bonusses, apply over an 8 second period, divide by 3 minutes (cooldown), achieve result.
>>164844000
>>164844006
>>164844026
>>164844037
Fuck off samefag
>>164843881
>1.91% reduction at my current gear level,
literally bullshit, post numbers
>>164839564
Plenty of r14 warlocks on ally, it's not about race but how you are team up in vanilla
>>164844037
You say I'm moving goalposts but I've been pointing out to this guy for 30 minutes how I'm talking about threat but he keeps going back to muh survivability, as if this server will ever make it to naxx
>>164843996
Go lock then.
>>164844063
yea whats the other guild then?
im joining the one with the cooler name
>>164844113
You realize he replied to a post where someone claimed the numbers are low for survivability? Why do you come in from the side and claim bullshit?
>>164844091
So what is the net gain you get from your armor, I don't know your gear
You did convert 3 minutes to 180 seconds right? and didn't just divide by 3? Because that's the only way I can see you coming up with that absurd number
Does anyone else get screen freezes while in dungeons ?
I've been reading bits of this long argument, so what's better, human or dwarf for warrior?
>>164844164
Because he refuses to refute my posts
>>164844208
orc
>>164844190
it's 180 seconds of course, but what the 0.3% dude is doing is math out and forget that the skill has a duration, it's not just one second.
It's pretty easy math.
Are all vanilla players behaving like vg do or nost players are normal dudes ?
Anyone have a nice tauren exploration lvling guide?
>>164844208
Tauren
>>164836357
>>164836040
hinagiku best girl
So what is your armor gain, post it
>>164844212
Try calculating the amount of extra threat you gain, you'll see it's not worth even discussing.
It's much less than the already low amount of survivability you gain.
Weapon skill is a dps talent. For WHITE hits, of which you don't gain any meaningful threat.
The only reason to get more weapon skill is extra damage on glancing blows, all other uses are secondary, it just doesn't play well with tanks.
You won't even see the difference even if you have KTM running, you'll get like 200 extra threat over a fight with one million threat total. it's so irrelevant it's practically as if you had no passive at all.
>alliance guild nice and organized with proven raid veterans
>horde guild doesnt have a leader and is already splintering into other guilds
Guess i know what side to roll kek
>>164844253
8/180=.044% uptime
.044*your armor=X
I'm assuming X isn't equal to 44%
>>164844359
>tfw you make the superior decision
>tfw you rollon hellground
>>164844359
Yeah go ahead
Roll Allaicnce, you fucking stupid cuck
The faction full of trannies, retrdas, cucks, and underages like you
Fuck off
Is the server up?
>>164844264
Everyone still playing a 10 year old version of the game is a turbo autist. If you want normal people go play retail
>>164844359
>proven raid veterans
you mean autistic fucking retards? if they were veterans they'd still be playing on old getting ready to clear Naxx. Obviously they're not.
>2 bongs and 16 bings later
>still haven't even gotten past the C folder off all the fucking addons in the OP pack
I have like 20 addons now
Do i just stop now or keep going lads
>leveled an orc hunter to 19 while waiting for fresh realm to launch
>bored
>decide to go to darkshore and tame one of the transparent cats for fun
>60s and high levels ignore me as i run through ashenvale
>similar or lower level always try and gank me
>i get to darkshore and get to the cat area which is the furthest most northmost section of the map
>get there dodging gankers and see a gnome who pulled too many mobs and is going to die
>decide to help them
>pull about four mobs off them and kill them and so i save the gnome's life
>the gnome has healed up to near full while i was fighting and one-shots me in return (i was on low health from killing the mobs)
>spawn at the graveyard on the eastern side of ashenvale so i literally have to ghost walk two zones to get to my body
>gnome is gone
>now there's a nelf also about to die in almost the same spot
>once again i decide to save them
>again they heal up and one shot me after i helped them out
lesson learned
every alliance i see is getting skullfucked on the fresh realm
>welcome to pvp carebare scrub i'm so hardcore
i quit tbc but i played on blackrock pvp from launch which was brutal, and even then opposite faction would hold back from killing in certain situations (e.g. like getting your ass saved)
i don't know if these alliance were complete newbie scum who spazed out at their first encounter with an opposite faction toon or if the 'community' itself has changed to just mindlessly kill anything red
>>164844406
Yeah, the launch was 7th of january duh
>>164844359
Still trannies and ERP'ing anime retards. I'd skip either.
>>164844403
Calm down yarrick
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
>>164844406
4.45.
>>164810321
You could name yourself childrapist, as long it's in chinese
is someone else using the wod models for vanilla mod? It works great but the kobolds are always ending up with untextured black antlers on their head. Anyone know a fix?
http://www.model-changing.net/blogs/blog/65-release-improved-models-for-112/
>>164844447
shut the fuck up kid
>>164844394
>.044*your armor=X
>
>I'm assuming X isn't equal to 44%
Your armor gain I mean
>>164844339
see
>>164842702
>>164844439
Yes but the time
>>164844448
That GMT OR GMT+1?
>>164844431
You only need luna frames, snowfallkeypress, some combat scrolling text addon, necb, bartender, KTM and some boss mod.
>>164844498
see patchnotes
1 expertise = 5 skill
you have no idea how low the benefit is my dude
>>164844435
beta
>>164844435
Horde does the same shit, I've had a Tauren Druid and a troll shaman chase me all the way across ashenvale, completely dropping what they were doing, even waiting for me to start fighting a mob to engage
>>164844435
>mfw I kill every horde in sight
King honor friend
https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/29241-receiving-mutes-all-the-time/
Reminder that call outs and coordination in bgs is against the rules
>>164842702
This post is bullshit because the amount of expertise you could gain is much higher than what you could get in vanilla pound for pound.
Yes, if you could somehow get the equivalent of 350 weapon skill in vanilla, it would be bis.
But you can't, this whole post is fucking retarded.
hurr durr my name is grimlic and i'm a cuck
>>164841062
what
How can one reach 65 mining from the start on Horde side (Undead)? Did a little run to 30 at Nost relaunch and could fairly pull myself ahead of the "fresh" pack in xp but no way to gather enough copper. This gets super frustrating when you miss out essential silver nodes to reach 125.
Wondering if I should go to Durotar first (obnoxious amount of copper) but that'd kill my chance to get ahead of the pleb early on.
What do?
What's the ally discord?
>>164844591
Only in non moonrune and gook code if you speak english - naughty naughty
>>164844339
Still waiting, post what your damage reduction gain is from stoneform
>>164844679
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
How do priests farm anything before DM east? Will i even be able to level any gathering professions?
>>164844435
you sound like you belong on alliance
>>164843996
You can still beat most classes as holy if you switch gear, unless bursted down it won't be easy to kill you t. Holycuck until ZG patch
>>164844668
Get ahead of pleb(you won't) and mine the shit out of 1k needles.
>>164844719
I'm not him you cuck. I schooled you on your threat misconceptions. That's all I care for.
>>164844736
epic simply epic
>grinding
>some horde cuck comes along
>waves at me
>starts grinding at my spot
>this goes on for a few mobs
>he thinks we're peacefully grinding next to each other
>I'm actually waiting for my CDs to get back up
>mfw I gank him when he's low on HP
>>164844668
Not level up mining and come back for it when you're level 40 or 60 with a mount stop being such a dumb cunt and take skinning to vendor free leather.
>>164844763
i don't think you know what ganking means
>>164844763
proof that all allies that pathetic weaklings
fucking cuck
>>164844728
Go herbalism/alchemy.
It's easy to level and cost almost no money if you are a little smart.
Power shield/Psychic Scream is great to gather stuff up even against player.
Get your transmutation up asap and enjoy your free money.
>>164844537
>bartender
I decided against that one
I always saw 1337 2pro4me players' UIs back in the day with custom action bar stuff but my nostalgia means it looks too weird since i never used any of it
maybe thats why i was always a scrublord but whatever
>>164844841
MFW RIGHT AFTER A LVL 1 WHISPERS ME AND HE'S SALTY AS FUCK
without vsync screen is tearing and unplayable, with vsync on there is much input lag.
any solution to this ?
I keep trying to login but I get this "disconnected from server" error
I've never played vanilla. Do I need something other than questie for quests?
the fresh server is supposed to launch today, no?
at what time
any futa guilds?
>>164844537
>necb
>Killing Blow Sounds - Plays a Unreal sound when you get a killing blow on another player - both male and female sounds are provided. This option can be turned off or played during questing normal mobs.
WAIT FUCKING YES FUCK YES
HNNNNGGGGG I ALWAYS WANTED THIS THE FUCKING DOUBLE KILL AND SUCH SOUNDS YASSSSS
>>164844909
Do you use a literal toaster m8? If not update your driver. If that does not help try the opengl mode.
>>164844926
You need to be able to read.
>>164844591
>here's a solution
>fuck you no
>locked
Pottu is literally a worthless person
orc or tauren for warrior?
the ally discord in OP doesn't work?
I have win10 and downloaded the recommended 7zip to open the WoW vanilla file from utorrent. I can't get it to fucking work. Suggestions?
>>164844974
fuck off normie
>tfw getting high and pretending to be a wizard in vanilla is my life now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnTsbQAuuKY
enjoy if ur autistic
>>164844890
lvl 1s can't whisper
>>164844926
shaguquest is nice.
>>164845008
PvP orc PvE tauren
>>164845014
This one works
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
>>164845027
>right click on the file
>7zip > extract files
how is that hard?
>>164844728
Professions,Mc mobs in tyrs desu
>>164843178
This but with Strangle Thornville would be great.
>>164845030
>played UT2k4 all day every day when it came out
>"normie"
>>164844745
It's still way too late. You are usually led there around level 25/6. Furthermore 1K needles is full of tin/iron/gold but very few copper.
>>164844208
>what's better, human or dwarf for warrior?
Human has more damage, Dwarf is slightly better at staying alive.
Human is the only sensible choice for DPS warrior. Dwarf is arguably better at being a tank.
Gnome for pvp.
>>164844974
What the fuck? Which version of necb is this? I have 5.4.8 and it doesn't have this.
So I just plotted out a low end armor reduction benefit from stone form over a 3 minute fight. I got to 0.71% in an absolute worst case scenario, which is much worse than what the other guy was spewing.
But it's still better than weapon skill, which nets you 0.4%.
Since 0.71% is the lowest possible value, I conclude from this that it is indeed better to have Stone Form.
This was done with almost BIS gear from BWL. Worse gear nets higher results than 0.71% because armor scales worse the more you get.
Unbuffed armor value of 7959 at 59.1% reduction
This should finally settle this retarded debate. Weapon skill is objectively worse from a survivability issue. Now we just need to calculate the TPS gain to see if it makes a difference.
>>164845030
>underage who never played unreal tournament
heheheheh
>>164845118
Mr crow is that you?
are the servers down?
I'm trying to set up for the server at 12 but I can't login, I just get "Disconnected from Server" after sitting at connecting for a while
>>164845095
Shouldn't be, but it doesn't work
>>164845027
winrar dumbfuck
TODAY IS THE FUCKING DAY. I AM BACK BIGGER STRONGER AND MORE READY THAN EVER IM GOING TO FARM THE FUCK OUT OF YOU YEAH ITS TRUE ITS GONNA BE NASTY AND YOU DONT KNOW WHERE ILL BE BUT U WILL ALWAYS KNOW ILL BE LURKING
FUCKKKKKK YEH
if odds warrior
if evens shaman
>>164845174
unreal is the king of normalfag games
>>164843946
Retarded fucking tranny
>>164845169
>I got to 0.71% in an absolute worst case scenario
How do you calculate this, because I get .25%
>But it's still better than weapon skill, which nets you 0.4%.
Also how do you calculate this? Because the only damage reduction you get from skill is from parry hastes, and I doubt that it reaches that high.
>>164845194
it would be good if you posted more than "it doesn't work"
best professions for rogue?
>>164845169
proof?
>>164845281
Of course. I try to unpack the files in a folder, but the RAR opener program gives me the following message: "Could not open the archive, may be damaged".
>warrior to kick and blacklist all the retards in dungeons
>priest for comfy leveling and being able to heal in dungeons
>rogue to kill all the chinks and be nightmare for opposing faction
can't decide pls send halp
>>164845292
>best professions for rogue?
eng
>>164845169
the only people that care about survivabliltiy are the retards that like stoneform
>>164845167
>What the fuck? Which version of necb is this? I have 5.4.8 and it doesn't have this.
i googled necb and this came up....is it not the same thing?
http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/6270-lf-addon-natur-enemy-castbar/
http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/download6616-NaturEnemyCastbar
Apparently its in the A-Z pack in the OP as cEnemyCastbar from the same guy according to the first thread, but from the screenshots i dont see anything about the Unreal sounds
i downloaded the Natur addon from 2014 let me test and kill a mob and see if it works one sec
>>164845416
>entire thread talks about how weapon skill is better for survivability
Anyone wanna level with me tonight euro time?
I'm rolling a human warlock.
what did he mean by this?
>>164845392
which prof with eng?
Which mage specs are the best? Like which specs would I run in raids. Guessing frost for MC but what about the rest?
If frost is the best spec overall I'd rather go lock since I'd be stuck with a pet either way.
Hmm Undead Lock or Priest?
On one hand Lock will have pets and good damage
On the other hand, Priests are fun to heal with and it will be easier to get dungeon groups
Alternatively i could go Orc Shaman
>>164845471
>which prof with eng?
really ?
>>164843294
healing is actually really good and game changing all the way up until cataclysm releases, at which point the philosophy on healers reverses, and you become a worthless sack of shit femboy instead of a god.
>>164845471
Whatever you think will rake in the most cash.
>>164845456
Yeah, I'm down
>>164845429
so the 2nd link's Natur doesnt work
not sure if i'll be able to find a vanilla version of it ;-;
>>164845506
You can only play frost until AQ (or ZG but who respecs for that)
>>164845096
are you alliance?
>someone recently made a really good exploration leveling guide
>mfw barely anyone else has seen it
>>164845552
post steamid or some way to contact you
>leveling on fresh launch
>mfw people have forgotten the terrible spawn rates of mobs and items
>>164845464
Source. Could this guy believe some bullshit time gates is the kind of challenge WoW needs to be a great game again? Come on
Is healing fun? Never played a healer, which one is good and needed?
>PVE Realm is up and running! Thanks again for being so patient everyone. Excited for Elysium Fresh PVP in a few hours!
>Excited for Elysium Fresh PVP in a few hours!
>few hours!
IT'S TAKING TOO LONG
>>164845642
>really good
>dies at least 15 times if nobody else has cleared the mobs up from your path
>hey guys its me your tank here with my totally made for dwarf armor
>>164845703
all of them are wanted. pick the one you enjoy the flavor and gameplay
>>164845346
Most likely corrupted, try redownloading the file or try using winrar
I AM BACK BIGGER BETTER AND STRONGER THAN EVER
>>164845642
share pls
>>164845703
they're all needed, druid is the weakest of the lot, they're more needed for innervate and combat res
>a few hours until fresh
>salty cucks still have no leader
>>164845773
fuck off
>tfw tempted to play ret pala more and more every day
will I ever get a raid spot if I go ret paladong? I dont mind the boring grind, I already managed to grind a warrior to 60
>>164845721
hide helmet exists for a reason you dumb fucking dwarf, you should have rolled night elf for the dodge
>>164845627
Old realm yes. Going Horde on fresh :)
>>164844986
gtx 1070, i5 6600
game is too old for my pc, dont have this problem on laptop.
>>164845813
Everyone moved to the new horde discord fampie, Salty Dogs is dead.
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
>>164841612
Charlie?
>>164845886
that is for the guy who was saying dwarf is better aesthetically
btfo
Reee I can't decide what to play.
Currently deciding between mage, warlock and priest.
I feel like I won't be able to do anything alone if I play priest, am I right in that assumption? And since 90% of the server will be rogues warlock is probably out of the question too.
>>164845878
Unless you run a guild or are the officers gf then no you wont be raiding as ret. However ret is a lot of fun in pvp so you can work your way up to t2/marshal gear and go ham in pvp. Holy is still better though and you'll have more offensive options with shock crits plus a lot more survivability with free crit heals. So go holy and never look back
how many hours until release?
>>164845958
wrong priest is godlike for soloing
>>164845987
4:09
>>164845821
thanks
for anyone interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU6PAnGUKV0
>>164845958
>I feel like I won't be able to do anything alone if I play priest
no, throw up a shield, dot and wand then alt tab
when is fresh releasing?
>>164845703
>which one is good and needed?
Priests are highest throughput.
Shaman have chain heals and can anhk to save the day in close fights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oju6cjG3vJM
Pally occasionally gets to bubble-pull and buffs everyone constantly, but has decent healing and DI.
Druid are weak healers, but combat res is amazing for if a tank goes down too early.
IMPORTANT
I M P O R T A N T
Is stealth fixed on fresh?
PLEASE RESPOND
>>164845429
>>164845610
I haven't fucked with mods for WoW in a while
what am i supposed to do with all these files?
>>164845903
win8 or 10? if so, try different compatibility modes.
IM STILL IN DESOLACE WAITING FOR YOU YOU FUCKING PUSSY COME AND FIGHT CHICKEN BOY
>>164845773
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkhMyrd7HlM
:^)
>>164845984
what about spriest?
I feel that if I will be a healslut, I might as well go priest, but I never played shadow priest before.
Do they get a spot in raids?
>>164845958
Elite quests will fuck you up as a priest imo, and unless you got like Shadow Form and shit, you will probably get stomped in WPvP, but beyond that, they are pretty great at questing, just make sure to get Spirit Tap then Wand Specialization.
However, Mages and Warlocks have much better solo-capabilities and are stronger at WPvP but there will be thousands of them and getting groups will suck.
>>164846058
Paladin is the best for DI alone because
>no repair bill lol
>>164846102
shadowpriest isnt a healslut so no, you won't get a spot
what professions for warrior on new server?
not going to go out of my way to do them aside from 1st aid because id fall behind in leveling,
>>164846170
Don't they work well with locks?
>>164846182
you will be behind in leveling as a warrior no matter what you do
>>164846059
this is the question of all questions
>>164845456
>>164845552
>>164845652
Anyone?
>>164846102
well i mean, there may be 1 SPriest in a raid for the Shadowweaving Debuff to increase warlocks damage, but beyond that, your are probably gonna be expected to be a mix of holy or disc.
>>164846227
1 is used at the most for shadow weaving, good luck getting that spot
>>164846182
>not going to go out of my way to do them aside from 1st aid
Same.
Pretty sure blacksmithing is useful for raiding, but leveling mining is going to be balls.
>expect a big queue because it's first day and fresh server
>5 minute queue
we dead here?
>>164846227
you need 15 debuff slots for shadow priests to shine, that doesn't happen for a while.
BC is when shadow priests become the dark horse of raiding
shadow priest has always been top dog for pvp and wpvp in vanilla though
I reserve all +Nature damage items, coz I'm going Boomkin and there's nothing you can do to stop me
Post you're leveling bgm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5pdgyOzJtE
>>164846412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckZlj2p8W9M
Guys, i have a real question, is Holy Nova and Lightwell taken by Holy Priests, i ask because they both seem like weak ass skills really.
I just wanna know because aside from Spirit Tap in Shadow and Wand Damage in Disc, i was just gonna level straight Holy and be the best dungeon healer i can be.
>>164846383
wanting to be a boomkin is the only thing making me consider rolling alliance
it takes so fucking long to get to boomkin though, and while levelling i'd have to be feral or healer at times which isn't as fun for me (as druid)
Okay so am stuck now between holy paladong and pocket bitch priest.
Which one has the easier time soloing? Do holy palas do get consecrate first for ez times?
Hey guys i waan be a horde boomkin but i dont have any friends or guild yet can somone invite me please i want to raid.
Thunder Bluff is so cozy :)
>>164846059
Yes.
>>164846383
>>164846454
/nosg/ has such intense special snowflake syndrome that they want to be a snowflake among snowflakes
>>164846454
well while leveling just take the omen of clarity talents + master shape shifter, and you play something half-boomkin half feral when mobs get in melee.
At 40 you can respec.
>>164846543
>mfw planning to be a raiding troll shadow priest
do you even snowflake?
>>164846494
No, consecrate was nerfed. Paladins are boring buffbitches/cleansebots
If you want to have FUN, play something else. Just not priest because fuck you im playing a priest
>>164846517
If you're one of the first people to 60 than you can meme your way into a guild
>>164846494
priests kill faster and have no downtime.
Lads what time serve release please tell now thank
>>164846452
No, priests do not get lightwell or spirit of redemption. Holy nova is picked up however, it causes no threat and gives you an aoe option.
>>164846664
11 hours, 53 minutes
>>164846578
Troll spriest is completely viable though
>>164846572
meh i'll just make druid my 2nd character later on
for now mage so i can get right to nuking people
there's nothing stopping one from rolling both ally and horde on the same server right? perks of a priv server or...
ITS UP BOYS
>>164846691
TV bby
Chinks farming mara when you can't find 2 dps to go there. This is so fucking infuriating.
Reminder that people who migrate to other race's starting zones are LITERALLY NIGGERS.
>>164846664
12pm EST
>>164846664
boku no pico
How fucked would I get if I decided to cave into my old ways and roll a warrior with intent of tanking my way through the game? Is warrior going to be overpopulated to hell and back? Im casul as fuck so I wont be first to get to 60, probably wont be a devoted raider either.
What class to roll if not warrior, I always played warrior. Fuck me.
>>164846671
They Skip Spirit of redemption as well?
Do you have a build i can check out?
>>164846830
Warrior is going to be overpopulated, yes. But MOST of them will be shitty, useless DPS warriors with no gear. Tanking all the way is doable, not efficient. Why are you even playing if you're a casual?
>>164846830
>Is warrior going to be overpopulated to hell and back?
Yes, but most of them will give up, and you'll weirdly always be able to find a group that wants you to tank for them.
The worst overpopulation that happens is rogues wanting to go to deadmines.
Burning Crusade was better.
Is healing fun in vanilla wow?
>>164846943
Yeah, but Fresh will be fun filler till we get a good TBC server.
>>164846991
You will never get a good tbc server.
>>164846836
Yeah, this is the most common healing priest spec: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#bxMusV0oZdxtcc0Vx
Sorry for the delay, doing all this shit on my phone takes forever.
Keep in mind this is early raiding/dungeon 60. Your spec might change with better gear. Don't forget to downrank.
Tauren have 10 more strength at level 1 than Gnomes, nice balancing blizz
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ix9zyRKatnCD_9voUwr-CuajLITkufzFQTw0EqXl3Yc/edit#gid=0
>>164846751
Running my UD to comfy Mulgore
What's better in pvp, mage or warlock?
I want to be a healslut, which class should I? I want guaranteed raid spots and the easiest time leveling possible.
>priesto
>holy pala
>resto druid (>implying)
>>164842427
Shadowguard is underrated as hell for shadow priests.
>>164847119
priest
Do I have to restart wow to show the new realm or nah? what would be the quickest way to see the new realm available?
>>164837989
Old female gnome
>>164846751
>tfw i've got an exploration route that ends me at level 5 in teldrassil, the least populated ally zone
>their faces when i start grinding down level 8 mobs while they're stuck at level 2
>>164844728
spriests are god tier at farming solo mobs
go kill satyrs until you can respec and be a healslut
>>164837649
>undead if you're a memeing edgelord
Hell yeah
>>164846072
w10, w8 on laptop
what compatibility should i run it in ?
guys this server gonna be better than Kronos 2?
also whats a good site to download compatible addons?
http://www.webm.land/w/D76N/
>hey mage can you carry the flag?
Should I go for rogue or mage? Pros/cons?
I'm pretty new player (30lvl or so in Nostalrius server)
>>164849616
>comic sans tier fonts
>terrible music
why is every pvp video like this?
>>164849616
>Horde PVP video
>Undead
>Rogue
>Bandana with spiky hair
>Shitty rock music your depressed dad probably listens to
Fucking hell
>>164850654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTxO_pgMqys#t=04m40s
>>164844435
>toon
You deserve every death you get
>>164847398
more like faildrassil
when is fresh going live?
>>164852248
2 more hours
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
https://discord.gg/nEdP8ZM
hype discord
"Mom...! I-I got it! I got the name Cuck!!!!!"
"Youre about to be so popular on reddit timmy!"
alliance discord where? these horde players are fags
>>164858150
PM Erlik#4852 for invite
anyone else can't even log in?
>>164841786
Dorfs
Thunder Bluff
Aerie Peak
Booty Bay
Azshara
https://discord.gg/FWT3pkU
Alliance Fresh Discord, get your cawfee and/or gween tea ready