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>Latest Patch Notes:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=789

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam(Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha/Fedimian, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Cats)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)

>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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>>164757634

Quickast is literally the reason we didn't get any dps r8 wizards classes and warlock 2 was a piece of shit.

You say about swordsman debuff but those are in fact new things. Cleave slash debuff was part of the sword buffs everyone asked, together with Slithering's strike damage (high kick always had the strike think IIRC). There's Spear lunge and etc, but they are sorta of shit in comparison to literal 100% uptime 100% critical rate.

The only reason r8 swordsman are looking real good was a non-existant new dps wizard class and huge numbers fuck up by imc. Swordies go 10k base damage skills as a form of "shut up and have your buffs". R9 brings a 10k base multihit damage spell with cooldown lower than 35 and game's over again with Wiz 3 Linker 2 chrono 3 builds or W3 Warlock 3/FF# (if they become good classes).

They also did the high mdef thing to FORCE team play, but transcendence powercreep bypass any mdef, you probably didn't saw any good wizard doing his job I think.

The only real good thing Swordies have over Wizards in term of core mechanics buffs and etc is armor break since this beats any "artificial difficult" I MCcould bring in the near future.

tl:dr IMC just powercreeped swordie to make people shut up but in the end they only made the problem even bigger since we can add some shit that will break the game to my list: Epee Garde and DoV 15 + transc, circling: expand.
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>>164761457

>Have 9 ways of amplifying damage
>As well as critical hits
>As well as high base damage
>As well as mobs having low PDef
>As well as armor lowering debuffs
>As well as buffs to increase attack, crit rate and even crit damage

Let's not be silly here. The only reason Wizards are managing to stay viable right now in PVE is because of transcendence working well with multihits.
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>>164761457
>Quickast is literally the reason we didn't get any dps r8 wizards classes and warlock 2 was a piece of shit.
>I know what the Devs thinks
Fuck off, I won't even bother reading all the other bullshit you wrote.
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>>164761881
>>164761973
calm down friendos.

any class is allowed to have dozens of %dmg buffs and nice shit, as long as they are not "Wizards"
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How can they talk about balance when they release things like Agni. Or how lazily they "fix" def scaling.
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>>164762319

Agni brings Pyros up to about the level of any rank 8 damage dealing class. They still have a huge MDef wall to get over though.
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just let it die
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>>164762454
>huge MDef wall
just transcend stage 5 senpai :^)
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Fucking swordies with their "unga I stay in aoes and swing my sword" now want to nerf literally everyone else because they're too stupid to do good DPS? Pathetic.
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>>164763307
fatsheyraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>164763445
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>>164762984

>5

3+gems+hats is enough for 99% of the content

the rest you just link then together and the job is done
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>>164763445
t-two boys?
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>>164762319
>>164762454
they should have given wizards debuffs instead. If enchant fire made enemies take 50% more fire damage for 20 seconds instead of +50 fire damage for like 5 seconds, you wouldn't even need agni as much. That or give other classes ways to make magic do more damage besides some cleric spells no one ever uses.
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>>164763521
CUTE
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Not sure if you guys really played the game but r7 swordsman was the most balanced shit ever

nerfing op stuff and a few tweaks would let to a much more health game instead of just powercreep the weak, literally no dps progression for wizards at r8 and high mdef mobs

while clerics runs rampant with their magic skills and everyone needs to suck their dick
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>crafting 100 zalia leather boots
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>>164763571
They gave Hell Breath that +firedmg% attribute, but ofc it is shitty.
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>>164763445
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>>164763445
CuteNotLewd guild
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>>164764173
Hell Breath wouldn't be as shitty(and neither would most of the skills in this game) if IMC didn't have a hard-on for huge cooldowns.
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>>164764260
What's the point to fthat over normal yuri, normal yaoi, or dickgirls? Is it just something like this?
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What's the best Shinobi build?
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>>164763896
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Should I reroll into Cryo3 or Wiz3 if I'm a Pyro2Linker1 Sorc? And what's a cookie cutter Cleric job path that has both Diev and Druid?
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>>164765272
diev3druid3...
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>>164765272
diev 3 druid 3
sorc is dead, don't take it
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>>164765272
WIz1,Pyro2,Link2,something get a Agny
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>>164762261
>Wizards are the 2nd best class tree in the game overall
>2 dedicated party slots in almost all ET groups that get anywhere
>Still pretend to be the oppressed underdogs
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I'm done. RIP.
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>>164765842
Only the chrono is static now, the meme can be replaced for something else.
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Is it viable to fit Archer 3 and Scout into a Musketeer build and give up Wugu? Is it that important?
I can't like without Cloak anymore.
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>>164765923
Cucked
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Nice how the game now tells you when you reach the buff limit.
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Why are so many people recommending Ranger 3 now?
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>>164766801
How else would you wear the ranger 3 costume?
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>>164765842
>Wizards are the 2nd best class tree in the game overall
Chrono and linker?

Yea, nice support classes, but some people want to play with damage too. Theres a reason why clerics get so much power and not only healing skills.
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>>164766801
stupid people said ranger3 was bad
the same kind of people going qs3 and farming days for a didel

but ranger was always good
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Let's make Futureproof great again.
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>>164768095
>Let's make Futureproof great again.
Did Cats leave? Not like hes playin..
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>>164768095
>fp
>great

lul
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>>164768095
>Let's make Futureproof great again.
Did Cats give the lead to Louvain?
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>>164766965
>Theres a reason why clerics get so much power and not only healing skills.
I hope IMC separates INT and SPR completely for cleric classes, by which I mean you have to choose between high SPR for useful heals and buffs and INT for damaging spells. And these things grow primarily as a function of INT or SPR, no huge base attack or effect.
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Comfy guild is recruiting!

If you're a SEA player looking to play in Telsiai, new or old, you're welcomed to join us!

We mostly PvE but GvG once a week though it's not compulsory.

No requirements whatsoever besides being active!

PM or send a friend request to me, Katzenberg, if you're interested.

If you have any inquiries, let me know.
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funny you guys saying that quick cast is balanced and forget how retarded was steady aim

SA nerf was health for the game
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>balance
>nothing for sadhumans

Why IMC hate us so much?
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>>164768823
IMC isn't the only one that hates you. Just kill yourself
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>>164768823
What do your attacks even do? The only thing I know about Sadhus is the Kaloo hammer and that they used to do crazy hits and flashes of light during beta. Did they nerf the attack speed or something?

I also read some old post about them getting bonus damage standing on buff tiles, but that was probably removed back in beta or something.
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>>164765982

nothing wrong

musket 2 is a standalone class already

a3 -> scout -> ranger + rogue -> musket

or fwe 1
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>>164768095
>FP great again
>Cats being an embarrassment
>Many of the people who are in FP are thinking of leaving
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Ohayou subhumans have no shame with this inane falseflagging.
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>>164769107
Leaving and going where? lmao
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>>164768823

Sadhu is okay.

Sadhu 3 CC's better than Psychokino's Gravity Pole. Yes, it's a fucking cleric that heals, deals tons of dps, is immortal and also CC's.
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>>164769169
shut up retard.
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>Hackapell can use 1H Swords
Wouldn't that make them have more stats? They are basically using two main-hands.
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>>164769215
Can you use golden bell shield while using OOB?
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>>164769194
cute
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>>164769463
Yes. Hackapell is the most powerful archer class.
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>>164769086
OoB is slower and do shit dmg without Druid3memes.

Astral Body Explosion is single hit, high cooldown and shit dmg, only use that shit for the knockback attribute.

Possession was great vs Dark Mobs, but they changed it from Holy to PSYCHOKINESIS. Now i can stunklock 15 mobs, 5 before, but the AoE is kidda small and the skill is chenneling, if any shit hits me it's done.

The other skills don't do dmg, are only shit support ones

Prakriti is a mobility skill for OoB.

Vashita Siddhi reduces stats, like -65CON/DEX/STR/SPR/STR, kidda nice for PvP.

Transmit Prana transmit 60% of my stats to other player, kidda nice for some combos but the hitbox of the skill is really shit.

>>164768996
We are one of the most fucked up classes.

>>164769215
Do you even play Sadhu? The CC from Possession is really shit, you never get 15 mobs and any hit kills the skill. Play the game.
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>>164769194
a better game
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>>164769215
>Sadhu 3 CC's better than Psychokino's Gravity Pole
t. Someone who never played Sadhu
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>>164769463
Secondary stats for 1h swords aren't usually very good.

The orange pistol has 3 slots for gems and any archer can equip it.

2h Bow scales the best with transcend and glass moles.

If you're an archer that uses a main hand and an off hand, you have to transcend TWO weapons instead of just one and the damage doesn't even combine, it just uses a certain weapon for some skills and another for others.
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>>164769953
>have to transcend TWO weapons i
this isnt entirely correct for hakkapalle.. Hakkapalle is barely affected by sword damage so it's still just better to transcend the crossbow.
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>>164768095
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>>164769953
Ohhh I see, so like SR instead of pistols they use sword.
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>>164769953
Yeah, but the 1h swords get the main hand benefits from the gems, thus making them better.
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>>164769953
Priene Sword does wonders

And Hakka doesn't need to transcend or upgrade their subweapon unlike other classes.
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>>164770051
sort of related question: does SR need to transcend both pistol and crossbow
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Transc items in team storage when?

I need that.
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>>164769953
>The orange pistol
Hahahha
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>>164769559
If its the most powerful archer class then why are there no Hackas on Klai?
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>>164770983
Because Klai is full of retards.
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>>164770983
US cucks thinks that
>MERGEN
Is better, which is a fucking joke.
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>>164770983
There are hakkapalles on klai, just not many. Mergen also gets very strong support from fwee 3.
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>>164770983
There are very few, but we are out there!
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>>164771506
>>164771636
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any /tosg/tard here tried diablo 3? I'm kinda bored of tos and want to try something new.


I loved the old diablo 2 and torchlight and always wanted to try d3 but game ain't cheaper (third world subhuman here) and you also need to buy a expansion

now there's a huge discount to get the game + the expansion pack. how fun this shit actually is, I want to kill some monster
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>>164770751

SR needs to upgrade their pistol. Main weapon helps for spiral arrow, multishit and shit but not worth that much since they are fillers

Aspana Revolver = all you need, but if you're rich, a silver hawk stat stick stage 3 is no that bad
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>>164771997
Played that often and right now again.

Its very much not like D1+2 but still ok game nowadays. Was a mess at launch and like 1st year.
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happy orthodox christman, senpaitachi
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>>164772143

Oh, I've heard about how bad it was but also hard that they fixed the game to be actually a good one on it's own (besides people still telling me that it's good but it's not really 'diablo') after the launch mess
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>try to rank reset
>Error code: Lock

What the fuck, IMC
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>>164772831

unlock your costumes
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>>164768338
why isnt Louvain the leader anyway?
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>>164770751
We need to transcend crossbow as well if you use glass moles, since glass moles scale off main hand and add it to secondary
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>>164771997
I still play D3 for that Cosmic wings.
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>>164772758
Isnt there that free trail with lvl limit or something? Try that.

Its a nice game, if you dont try-hard/force to 'revitalize' your D2 memories,
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>>164771997
It's pretty fun until you reach end game and
Which ironically they seem to try and push you there as fast as possible by throwing out free powerful sets every season.
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>>164772895
Nothing's locked
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>>164772934
>we need Louvain to lead us
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>>164772934
Can he rename FP to desu vult?
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>florida airport just had shooting
>i work at florida airport
well shit
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>he missed it
well, shit.
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>>164774271
theres always next time
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>>164774401
how soon is next time?
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>>164773231
This terrible meme again
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>>164774140
>tfw swaaz is literally near me
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>>164774513
idk ask /pol/
>>164774665
there is no escape
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>>164774603
Not really a bad idea desu, would cleanse the guild from the stigma associated with the Futureproof name and Lolipan.
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>>164774824
please, Cats has done more damage to the FP name in two weeks than Loli has done in a year
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>>164774870

What has Cats done that's worse than that Atom incident?
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>>164775194
he doesnt even play the game
atleast loli did 200 rush
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>>164775194
Nobody even remembers (or even knows) who Atom is/was.
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Is there any point maxing or at least putting more than 3 points to cartar stroke?
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>>164776057
I 'member
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>>164776217
Max it out, make a high 3 rode 3 murm and blow shit the fuck away
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>>164776494
How does it work, exactly?
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>when lolipan was leader, people wanted cats to lead
>now that cats is lead, people don't want him anymore
really makes you think
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>>164776826
I was just joking, because rode has a lot of strike boosting debuffs and so does murm, so in theory, carat stroke would do a ton of damage if you can charge it in time. Actually murm and rode are meant to go together so it might not be THAT bad, but you probably wouldn't actually be catar stroking things as a main attack.
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>>164776886
>when lolipan was leader, people wanted cats to lead
No, we wanted Rance, kys misinfo agent
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>>164776494

I have a hl 1 rodelero 3, kek. It's fucking amazing. Cartar stroke + hich kick slithering and knockdown (thanks kim for this last buff) outdps my whole shooting star + targe smash combos. Might as well don't even bother with helmet upgrades for those craps shit and just use rodel as utility/debuff and focus on murmillo's skill damage attributes
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>>164776886
nobody ever wanted Cats to lead
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>>164777112
>>164777129
oh, well I guess I stand corrected.
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>>164777123
No!
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>>164776886
>>164777123
>>164777183
this

Its time for Cats to follow Rance to FF14 and disband FP.
real FP died long ago anyways
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>>164777480
so you want to plat FF14 with fake FP?
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Where does cartar even get the damage?
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>>164777297

I can one shot truffles with one cartar stroke using a puny 5*5 five hammer. shit is so cash

but to be honest, you'll do better with rodelero's skill. murm helmet attribute makes those skills GOOD and fitting 2x shooting star into your rotation (remember you'll have murm skills as priorities once you hit r8) will be much better instead of wasting one rank of highlander for a meme combo, since you'll probbably giving up pelt c2's high guard (which makes pelt skills useful) pelt c3 or sword 2/3/corsair for pvp.

You need to be a diehard fan of CS to do this
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>>164777480
why not follow LP and go to eve
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>>164776886
>people wanted cats to lead
Nobody wanted Cats to lead. And no, nobody wanted Rance to lead. They were both normies barely even browsing 4chan.
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>>164777480
It's time for ohayoutards to stop shitposting
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>>164777123
Would be the same story with Rance, he got bored of the game and was only on for bees on his last days before finally moving on. The reason why people wanted Cats was because he made fun pvp events in the beginning, but now he's instead fraternizing with retards like Impetus with normie stories instead of playing the game, and having them shit up the rest of tosg.
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>kim thinks this is fine

this guy was literally playing as a lv 150~ diev basically without any gear at 5x5 tbl and got a solid #32

npc weapons, enchantless hats, probably int build

i know tbl is a big rng too but top kek, I always kek when I see thinks like this and lots of 330 full geared players ranking lower
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>>164777895
>It's time.. to stop shitposting
Its never that time.
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>>164778040
Sorry, im new to the game, what this number mean?
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>>164778040
playing as a low level support is actually beneficial in some ways, since it guarantees there's also going to be a low level on the enemy team - more often than not it's just a trash non-support who's just going to feed kills while your support actually contributes by giving aus/heals/dispel/whatever

they need to fix matchmaking system
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>>164778156
out of the 40 players left in this game, this guy ranked 38 in pvp
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>>164778040
Has been happening since tbl was implemented, Kayori was top 10 with only diev 3 oracle. Ausrine just lasts too long and owls do too much damage and basically the entire class is busted.
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>>164778040
Same thing works with kino3
I was like 18th on my r5 kino
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>>164766801
steady aim is a final damage modifier
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>>164778613
That's before inquisitor became so popular there's at least two in every match.
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>>164777895
>tfw you realize that ohayou's are not only responsible for all the fp shitposting but all the CnL shitposting as well
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>>164778789
No its the same thing

Its a pretty simple cheese tactic

>teleport out of start zone
>magnetic force at the edge of the enemy teams wall
>raise all 5 before they get ausrine up

works like 70% of games
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>>164778816
>tfw you realize Ohayous get bullied and became the /tosg/ boogeyman despite being some of the nicest players (besides 3j)
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Are the ohayos really killing cnl or its just regular shitposting?
I know like 4 of them and they seem really nice.
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>>164779326
It's just shitposting
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>>164779326
CnL is alright.

LeaderGirl is soon back!
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>>164778946

first round is a free win but the second and etc this ain't working

you'll meet a counter spell or a ausrine next to the corner kek
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>>164779326
The guild has lost its comfy feeling, but a lot of the people from ohayou are pretty cool.
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>>164779796
Why can't they kick 3j so it can be comfy again?
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>>164779729
Also world tree before ausrine cucks every wiz/cata who tries to bumrush the spawn
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>>164780339
you can rush before entering the silence zone so you keep rushing while silenced
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>>164780093
3j is rarely using gchat.
but less comfy cuz there are many active ppl now.
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>>164777618
it has a hidden 400% multiplier, like the shit Musketeers have
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>>164779258
It's not boogeymaning
Look at the last thread
Sawai getting name dropped and shitposted about
Sawai has been a CnL member for a long ass time.
Never been name dropped, doubt he/she ever wanted to be
Until Ohayou arrrived.
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>>164780707
It's 150
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>>164780836
legit proof you got there, shitposterkun
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>>164780836
ohayou's already gone and you still want to kick the dead horse
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>>164780836
how can you argue with that kind of logic?
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>>164780836
Yadda yadda,
>she
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>>164780836
someone made an innocent shitpost about deciding between buffs from sawai or cannelle then someone asked who the literal who was then another shitposter responded

the innocent shitposter name dropped him, I don't think his post was bad it was just for fun. at the end of the day the thread is full of retards
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>>164779796
fp is the comfy guild now!
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>>164781690
>at the end of the day the thread is full of retards
ikr

>>164781817
>fp is the dead guild now!
ftfy
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>>164780836
Ohayou has been in CnL for like a month now, can't really blame them. It's not like that happened a couple of days after.
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>>164781817
FP is fucking dead
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>>164781817
FP hasnt been comfy since pre neutrality.
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>banning everyone just now
Someone is mad
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>>164781817
>Healnigger spamming HI HI SENPAI oWo XD every five seconds
>comfy
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>>164782525
cute!
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>>164782525

She is one of the biggest reasons to not join the FP chat
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>>164781690
>cannelle
Who?
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>>164783857
I remember him from ktos, good guy i think
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>>164779258
The patch notes said new gimmicks were added, anyone know where/what they are?
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>>164779258
Evergarden has been known as falseflagging shitposting dramastirring scum for a long time
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>>164779258
Ohayos are kinda expensive in the boys market.
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>>164783857
Trappes ERP partner
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Can anyone help me with card leveling. Say I'm on a tight budget and I want to maximize the effects from cards, instead of one level 10 card, how many lower level cards could I have made? Like instead of 1 level 10 Chapp, could I have made three level 6s?
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>>164785006
Oh the FP cuck that never fights?

Who is the bull then?
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>>164785094
Ask the boss mafia if they can let you in.
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Conversion fix when?
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>>164786434
Right after physical link fix!
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>>164786434
What's broken about conversion?
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>>164786434
Literally never.
IMC thinks Conversion being broken is intended.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/updated-for-the-love-of-god-imc-get-around-to-this/342294/8
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are there any requisites to join the guilds in the OP or should I just try whispering to one of the leaders?
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>accidentally assing Physical Link to the homunculus
>can't dismiss it for 10 days
>uncontrollable Physical Link in missions and dungeons every 15 seconds
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>>164786705
If you try to convert a mob that is being attacked by a mob you converted early the two mobs stops working.
>>164786940
t-t-thanks IMC
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>>164787065
oh, okay.
I only have 1 point in conversion because I'M NOT A RETARD.
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>>164787176
It's fun to have a lot of mobs with you, but the bugs kill the skill.
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>>164786957
Not really. Yeah, if they don't respond, add them as a friend or keep waiting
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>>164787610
Are there any cute aryan girls in your guilds, anon?
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>>164788078
Don't you mean asian?
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>>164788289
Aryan, anon, aryan. 100% ubermensch genes.
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>>164788393
>wgirls
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>found two RPers who purposefully became overweight so they could walk around Orsha's back alleys together
Cute!
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>>164788464
Asians girls are meh. Look at hafl white half asian, they are actually uber tier
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>>164788560
halfs strike too close to uncanny valley
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>asian girls

they have horizontal pussy
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>>164771997
Just play Path Of Exile
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>>164788471
MARRIAGE SYSTEM WHEN
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>>164788471
that is really cute
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>>164768338
>>164772934
>>164773190
louvain is the one who posts FP drama and screensshots of guild chat. they also talk relentless shit in guild and samefag pretty hard every thread about cats in hopes he'll give up lead or quit finally. I assume this is why Loli or Cats won't give lead
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>>164793809
Hahahahahahaha.

Fucking retard.
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>>164792921
Pregnancy system when
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>>164793809
louvain never talks in gchat though, you're not even in FP.
>>
>>164793809
Nobody samefags about Cats he's legitimately never online. Louvain never talks shit in guild either he's perpetually banished to blue fortress dungeon and hollow thorn forest.
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>>164788471
Alsheyra + ?
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>>164794021
That's just cat
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>>164794701
LunarRabbit
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>>164794940
Wouldn't surprise me. Suddenly going all cats defense force on posts made hours ago.
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>>164793984
Is RO still the only game with "baby" characters? I mean some you can make a family but RO had that shit on another level.
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>>164795074
I guess there might be more, but RO was by the far the most popular.
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So how badly does this kill the wugu?
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>>164777982
Shhh

Don't tell the truth otherwise how people will be able to shitpost about FP.
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>>164796230
Doesn't stack, it's pretty shitty.
It does have some use against FF jihads, though.
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>>164796230
it would only reflect the initial attack, not any of the dots. this kills the memefoot.
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>Someone just one the 50mil lottery twice

What the fuck.
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>>164796684

It's 5 million, and he won it once. It just shows the message a bunch of times.
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>>164796684
>not abusing the lotto glitch where you can click it an infinite number of times
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>>164796904
Oh I guess I counted the zeros wrong. Also the message shit is confusing as fuck.
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Futureproof is alive, fun, and recruiting. Fuck the haters.
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>>164797392
>LolichisSlave
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>>164797392
Holy fuck, that cropped Trappe, why
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>>164797703
She was stuck in Saalus but really wanted to be there. We were gonna wait, but someone crashed ch1.
>>
>>164797787
>She
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>>164797392

>CLERIC 2 DIEV 3 KABBA INQ
>60


can't be more futureproof
>>
>>164797787
out of all the niggas of tosg trappe is the least she of them all
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>no one helped me decide between sawai or canelle buffs
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>>164798660
Canelle had like 10 silver buffs, that was pretty cool
>>
>sadhu

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4117666ee..11253544.1721374f5a65.162a314155617581

>gas everything then hug with possession

?
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>>164798660
Make a list with pros and cons of each one
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>>164797392

Very populated guild so far
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>>164798660
>deciding between Fedi and Orsha

retard
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>>164798969
Don't lie, anon
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looking for friends
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>>164799201

you can always kys
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>>164799038
uhm. mom ditched that town
>>
So is the 217 dungeon is not popular?
>>
>>164795031
>Suddenly going all cats defense force on posts made hours ago.
t. things that never happened in this thread
EVER
>>
>>164799065

Thats like 4 more lol
>>
>>164799515
Yes
>>
If you repeatedly kill mobs in a quest, abandon and do it again, will you get the loot drops as norm?
>>
>>164800361
Maybe, sometimes? They kinda fix these things randomly.
>>
>>164800361
No they changed that since it was exploitable on a lot of quests.
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>>164800361
no, but some quests with infinite spawns you can abuse for 30+ minutes before they stop dropping items
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>>164800361
Just never leave the first time you enter
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>>164801008
>>164800728
>>164800716
>>164801094

Well fuck, I was hoping to farm Upents reliably. They still drop stuff every once in a while but its not consistent.
>>
Thaum2? Yes or No?
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>>164797392
>>164797572

Jesus Christ, I'm sorry I did that.
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>Futureproof is recruiting still.

I have a few more spots I want to clean out and today and tomorrow are the best times to pick up prime-time players from TOSG. I'd really love some wizards or archers. Futureproof has not a single archer, you can be the special snowflake, even if you're a dirty fucking haka
>>
Why do r5s even queue? It can't even be fun yet there's an r5 sorc 1 with chapp summon that keeps trying anyway.
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>>164801630

Really good right now. With full int you'll be getting close to 800 bonus damage. Can swap it all into con (for like 80k hp), got reversi which is great in PVP and good at farming.

Solid pick for most Wizard builds needing more damage right now.
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>>164802251
Two guys in that pic have archers
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anyone else planning on keeping their 315/330 wep until r10?

fuck r9 weps after this grind and silver dumped into trans
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>>164802251
>even if you're a dirty fucking haka
Hakkas are literally better than Mergecucks
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>>164802413
Cats doesn't play the game retard, how's he supposed to know how archers look like?
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>>164777129
Make webm or gif to show us. Shooting star even without the murm attris is great burst with slither and high kick up and will easily carry you to R8. The rod kit is even good enough to go through khonot and kadamoan forests without any trouble up until the cuntaurs.
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>>164802601
Not really.
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>>164802601
In what way? Hakkas damage is pretty subpar compared to swords and merg can shit damage like no tomorrow, especially if they have fwee. It is on a long cooldown but i'd say they are pretty even although hakka does look a lot more fun.
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>>164804135
Wasn't in patch notes but Hakka fake multihits were made into real multihits. Does a shit ton of damage.
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How come Canelle doesn't come back to Future proof? Did she and Trappe break up?
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>>164802251
>Futureproof has not a single archer
Cats doesn't play the game. It's not even a meme at this point anymore.
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>>164802285
I won with that r5 in my team - if anything it's an extra body for my r7 cancer
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>>164802251
>not a single archer
Don't you have Louvian?
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>>164806109
FP has a 330 mergen and a hakka.
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>>164806109
Louvain isn't an archer
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>>164805132
Must have found a bigger cuck to dominate
>>
Is there a guide on how to craft paper cube?
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>>164806831
The recipe drops from mobs in the 290 dung and you craft it with another item that drops from 290 and recipes that drop from the 290 boss, that's all there is to it.
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>>164806918
Alternatively you can buy all of it in the market.
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>>164798871

>Sawai
+Channel 1 convenience
+420 Blessing damage
+Young, agile body
+DFC
-Part of CutNLine
-Rumored to be a massive bully

>Canelle
+OG of the Pardoner game
+Consistent if needed
+Part of cute
+Huge Kabba tats
-Hides her huge Kabba tats under her boy character
-Channel 2
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>>164807026
>Skull Smasher
>20mil
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>>164802590
It depends how much better the R9 weapons are. They might just be insane and then you would be an idiot for not trying to get them. If they are just barely better than stage 5 transcended 315 purple, then yeah, fuck that.
>>
>>164806918
tl;dr version:
>keep killing mobs until you get artolinium and paper cube recipe
>kill 290 boss to get recipes

This about it?
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>>164807263
Yeah pretty much. 500k rerolls Don't know all the drops but most notable aside from the orange weapons are the purple demon lord weapons
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>>164807154
You can buy the mats for like 2-3 mil, and roll the cube yourself. it's only 500k per roll! :^) oh and it's filled with trash recipes, so you might just spend 4 mil on nothing.
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>Cannibal Eroc
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>>164805132
Didn't she hate ERPers or something?
I remember her losing her shit and putting me on ignore because I jokingly said her and trap sit on the ERP roof in Orsha.
If that's so, then I doubt she'd be too impressed by futureproofs current lineup
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>>164807563
Okay thanks. I'm dying to get rid of my plunger because I don't fucking know who approved of the shitty 315 purple 2H spear weapon.
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>>164807889
Erocs gear sucks though
He's got like nothing
>>
>>164807960
He's some variation of diev3. He doesn't need gear.
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>>164807960
why the FUCK is the GM of the STRONGEST guild on Klaipeda such a fucking casual scrub?
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>>164807958
It looks cool desu. Good luck with the mats for the orange weapons, its all a big pain
>>
queue for gvg nerds

or is your leader a normie?
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>>164808325
Are you envy
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>>164809284
shut up alsheyra
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queue gvg scrubs
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Boss spawn addon seems like it broke
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Futureproof is in queue but we aren't getting a match
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>>164810368
Does the notification when it spawns still appear?
>>
Anyone else FUCKING HATE Lotus?
>>
>>164810579

nope, didn't show anything for harp not even its location
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>>164798735
Sadhu is shit, run away from it.

t. Sadhuman3
>>
>>164807598
But skull smasher isn't from the cardboard cube, I think
>>
>Bowfag keeps whining about lack of SP in dungeon
>Kabba says to him to quit ignoring the fucking ein soph drops he's putting out every minute
>Bowfag receives personal lesson on what ein soph is
>Proceeds to ignore every ein soph drop afterwards, anyway
>Whines at the end about lack of SP

There's no hope for humanity, is there?
>>
All right. I guess I should use that reset voucher after all.

A2>R3>Fwee>Musk
or
A2>Sapper 3>Fwee>Musk
or
A3>R1>Scout>Fwee>Musk?

Is Sapper fun or viable? I don't have any experience in Sapper.
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>>164811690
>>
Imc implement a new pvp, it is the "NO CLERICS ALLOWED" mode. Would you play it?
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>>164811823
YES
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>>164811823
Only if you name it "CATAGEDDON"
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>>164811823
have fun getting kino'd without ausrine.
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>>164811731
archer3 is lame desu, don't do that one
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>>164812154
>kino
>doing shit against a guild stacking AoE def
kek
>>
>canelle

just stfu you retard nobody cares just leave orsha please.
>>
>>164812178
But rank 15 Multishot desu
>>
Alpha just beat Crimson in a fair fight, and the whole match got hook64 crashed to prevent Alpha from getting points LOL
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>>164812035
You mean this?
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>>164812736
Is this true?
Crimson.... I'm dissapoint... ... ... .
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>>164812736
>fair
>half of Crimson's team crashed and were in Fedimian complaining when the match was still going
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>>164812813
>>164812736
I was in the fight and Crimson definitely crashed the channel. The game crashed for everyone right when we got their tower down to 1% or less. Pretty disappointing since everyone was so happy with the victory.
>>
>>164812865
Same with Alpha lol they had 8 total at the halfway point
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>>164812736
>implying not Alpha trying to pass the blame when known cheaters
>>
>>164812736
>fair fight
>admits lots of people from both sides had crashed beforehand
that's not what fair means desu senpai
>>
>Implying Crimson gives a FUCK about losing 1 game
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>>164813024
oh suck my dick, crimson had nearly double the kill count and no worries till the crashes.

Come talk to me when aipha can win vs us at full strength. And no, crimson didn't crash the fucking channel and yes they had OBVIOUSLY more people than crimson.
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>>164812736
What do you expect? crimson is full of brazilian monkeys.
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>>164813421
Someone on the team did. I have never seen entire GvG channels crash before with over 30+ games. I don't think its that they care about the loss of points, but rather about the principle that they never lose.
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>>164812736
It's alright, Alpha can just match-fix with Aipha if they want points
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/crimson-crashing-channels-aftering-losing-tower-to-alpha-gg-cheaters/343412

It's drama time!
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THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
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>>164813752
s-should I be turned on by this
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>>164813752
>>164813849
Listen cunts, Moe is far superior to you. You can cry on your safe space but remember that you'll never grow the balls to speak up in game. Also Moe would never associate with blacks (or niggers, as I like to call them).
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>>164814265
the fuck?
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>>164814265
>you'll never grow the balls to speak up in game
/tosg/ in a nutshell
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>>164814380
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>>164814265
t.moecock
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>>164814380
this is why swaaz is exceptional
>>
>York
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>>164814265
t. Hat
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>>164799201
Post your IGN
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>>164797392
>Futureproof screenshot
>I am not in it
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>>164797392
Zhwan is my ToS crush
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>>164814878
Zhwan is my husband IRL, though I'm not in FP with him.
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>>164815029
but I erp'd with him and everything
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>>164815157
Wait, did you really?
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>>164815448
no
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>>164815854
Thank goodness.
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>>164815448
yeah now I feel used
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>>164814837
Don't feel so bad. It just means you're not part of the discord clique.
>>
Reminder to get your compensation cookies before the 8th.

Also why don't they stack?
>>
Nice connection, cats.
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>>164815448
Ask Zhwan about the line incident
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>>164814265
BACK THE FUCK OFF??!
>>
>Mercury is made out of like 5 silvers
>20k on market
Why? Does it drop somewhere?
>>
>>164816348
I know you can get it from the 145 cube
>>
>>164816348
>Not having more silver than you'll ever need after halloween event
>>
>>164816638
Even if they had that much silver, it sells for 30k each to npc.
>>
Is Sapper 3 a must or will Rank 2 do nicely?
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Remember to always reroll your cardboard boxes
>>
Meanwhile a user called soviet is bragging and shoving his hack on forums while he laughs how stupid is IMC and their players
>>
>>164813458
of course crimson crashed the channel, who else would've crashed when crimson tower was at 1 hp LUL

crimson didn't crash it because they need points, they crashed it because they don't want alpha to get points, and to maintain their (we never lose) shit
>>
^lol
>>
>>164817617
The only people who care about "we never lose" shit are people not in Crimson dumbass.
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>>164817617
That's some nice bullshit, friend. Even though lotus and alpha have beaten crimson without crashes. But believe what you want, it's not like it would have affected crimson either way.

And also, alpha is a feeder guild who is shit, fuck them.
>>
>>164815029
He seems really depressed, keeps talking about killing himself.
Are you doing your job right as a wife and giving him ample blowjobs and sandwiches?
>>
>>164817987
>>164818080
It didn't affect Crimson either way, but they got their kicks from it by denying Alpha points lol
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>>164813710
>make a feeder guild
>doesn't even disguise its name
>crying over a crash
I thought Kazuto was cool, lost all respect for him.
>>
>>164818196
I thought he only wanted to kill himself because he was waiting in line??
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>>164818579
where is he crying?
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>>164818620
Nah dude thats me all the time
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>>164818535
GOTEM
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>>164818860
>>
>>164819153
>>
Will Limacon and Running Shot stack?
>>
Describe your guild as if it were a video game, the members each being mechanics.
>>
>>164821342
fuck off already with your namedropping
>>
>>164821431
fuck off namedropping is TOSG culture
>>
>>164821342
Magicka. Including the royal fuckup combinations of magic that get you and your friends killed
>>
Do miko skills work on the storm of taoist?
>>
daily reminder that all /tosg/-related cliques are established and you will never be a part of any of them no matter how hard you try, no matter what class you reroll and no matter how willing you are to help.
fuck this game.
>>
>>164823803
I'm not in a clique and I'm probably the best geared /tosg/ player. Many of us do not have cliques, and many of us love making new friends as well.
>>
>>164823885
what guild are you in, anon?
i bet you are one of the people ive been trying to impress.
>>
>>164822821
No one tried this yet?

+20 second storm would be super good
>>
Why does Hasta Plate Armor cost more than Lolopanther?
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>>164824006
I don't think I am. Not too many people interact with me except for when I'm doing dailies.
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>>164824516
you are only strengthening my case.
drop another hint.
>>
>>164824647
It's Friend
>>
>>164823803
I hate cliques and my guild is infested with one to the point that they don't even talk in guild chat anymore. Make a guild and I'll join it.
>>
>>164824446
Not sure, just a guess but the stats are similar however since Hasta gives direct Con that translates into higher crit resistance and block chance. Also Hasta armor is rare drop off Blut who is an asshole.
>>
>>164824797
No, I'm not Friend.

>>164824647
I will not.
>>
>>164824516
>Not too many people interact with me except for when I'm doing dailies
That's the whole game, son.
>>
>>164825013
t. Lewdity
>>
>>164824797
i'm 99% sure i know who it is
>>164825013
very well, just try to remember some people are feeling left out, i barely want to play anymore because everyone flocks to you and the nobodies are left attempting solo runs.
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>>164825192
Try soloing the 290 as a solo Kabbalist 2. Its a spiritual journey into the mind.
>>
>>164825424
>Trying soloing as a solo
Wow! I'm going to try this!
>>
Started this game, got to level 45 (big whoop yeah). Started swordsman 1, then peltasta 1 now hoplite, dumping most of my stats into str and a dex or con here and there. How far can I grind before I gotta reset my classes since I got the reset voucher for free?
>>
>>164825612
just make sure the voucher isn't about to expire.
you'll want to wait until you are class level 15 or have just advanced before using it to save any progress, though
>>
>>164825549
Please be kind to anon, she just finished soloing the 290 as a Kabbalist 2
>>
>>164825612
Reroll while you can
You need to go full dex
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>>164825749
it's not that hard (if you're oracle). change mob the orb, then kill the lavenzard with r7s, it just takes time
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Cleric2>Diev3>Miko>Oracle>Inqui

Yes or no
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Anon, are swordies still subhumans or i can return?
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>>164827427
They are literal gods now.

Except in pvp
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>>164827427
swordies has been buffed a lot
its more than safe to be comming back
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>>164827526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4zhGUMm8Ew
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>>164827601
>>164827526
What's sword meta right now?
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>>164827427
Swordcuckos are even more subhuman now that we have agni.
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>>164827781
dragoons and fencers
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>>164827907
doppel c3 is meh? The thing is i like big swords
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>>164828110
doppel c3 is alright
team with a dragoon2 and you got yourself a pain train
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Is it worth it making Alch for my own use? There are literally no potions for a reasonable price at the market right now, is Pyro2Linker2 the fastest way?
What about the other merchant classes too?
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>>164828230
resetting into something like highman3,x,dop3 or high2,barb2,dop3?
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>>164828471
You want to pick either high 3 barb 1 or barb 3 high 1. High has armor break but barb does more raw damage and has been getting buffed a lot.
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>>164828471
You'll always want at least 1 barb for cleave, gives +50% to slash attacks
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>>164828471
i'd recommend barb
the buffs on barb never stops
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411333i8h.1a2a345561.11213d4f5a65.11243555.21314155617195.1155617385

HELP PLEASE.
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>>164824829
I'd also join
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>>164828730
why oracle? if you don't care about pvp memes do PD1 instead for the agny incinerate burst damage
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>>164828998
I like Oracles clothes.
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>>164829209
uhhhh
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I want to please my dick, where are some TOS fap material? i think is the only good thing
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>>164829380
Man likes to be fashionable. Can't blame him.
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>>164829209
uhm, but oracle doesn't hav...

oh...
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>>164829572
wait for plas to upload the tos doujins
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>had a bad day
>come home and get on tos
>see healmage chatting in town
>suddenly felt like the sun came out from behind the dark clouds

thank you healmage, you always know how to make me feel good again
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>>164829780
Stop being so thirsty, zhwan.
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>>164828618
>>164828597
>>164828541
Can anon help with skills?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#112622999..2f3141657a8a.b5.5f
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>>164829780

But healmage is a fucking slut, unless you have something for her
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>>164829780
Come over to fp and I'll set you two up on a play date.

And if you're already in fp I'll set you two up on a pizza date
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>>164831025

And carry something for her, so you paid her, because that dicks isn't gonna suck itself by free
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What is the most edgy class in tos?
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>>164832502

Inquisitor
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>>164832527
Can he teleport behind you're waifus?
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>>164832502
Featherfoot
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>>164832696
Range class are not edgy, they are faggy
>>
ALIVE THREAD
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Please. Someone namedrop me right now or I quit.
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Why doesnt the monster tracking addon track every mob? Some mobs it doesn't show.
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>>164833067
(you)
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>>164832750
FF isn't a ranged class
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What's a good Thaum farming build? Wiz>Pyro3>Link2>Thaum2 ok or should I drop a pyro circle?
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>>164832653
Shinobi can
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>>164833153
It used to but broke at some point, probably from patches/ changes to the gamer, and it's never been updated because didn't the addon guy quit or something?
>>
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>>164833882
But shinobi is a weeb class and weebs are not edgy, they are retarded
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>>164833967
You know you want to unleash your chakra and be a shinobi-doppel so you can be a tru doppel madara
>>
>tempted to roll a Ranger 3 just for the costume
Help
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Is there anyone here who play ToS in Linux?
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>>164835496
it's worth it
steady aim is a final modifier, even applies after attributes
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>>164835905
Which means it also applies after you damage is shat on by 5k+ defense
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>>164836218
>taking minigame serious
>wanting to play minigame as [not cleric] or not [not cata]
>minigame as archer
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>>164836218
The highest mob in the game has like 1.2k def and if you're facing a player with 5k p def in pvp you should probably just cry.
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>>164836218
archers shouldn't bother pvping even when they are stage 10 transcend
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Why does IMC treats iToS like shit but loves kToS?
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>>164836343
Koreans have a deep hatred of westerners due some genetically rooted inferiority complex

This is one of their ways they try to "get back at us"
This happens in all korean mmos btw
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>>164836343
nexon
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What is ultimate cata build? Always wanted to be a shining tosg knight. Is it hard to level?
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>>164836437
That actually explains everything.
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>>164836462
It's pretty much always sword 3 cata 3 and then you can choose between dragoon 2 or doppel lancer with goon 2 being overall stronger and easier.
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>>164836493
yeah nexon pays them extra money since jToS rakes in so much cash
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>>164836665
hows leveling?
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>>164836462
Sword Pelt 3 Cata 3 Murmillo
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We're going to send rabbit on the moon.
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Daily remember that you will never be this edgy unless do whale and RMT while cheat at the same time so hard
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>>164837493
>Clearing content
>Tree of Savior
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>All good Cata3Goon2s are guys

Wonder what that means
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>>164838029
You need a spear to be a proper catagoon. Spear, got it?
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>>164838029
It's a class for manly players not feminized neckbeards that like to pretend to be girls
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>>164837070
Sanic headbutts are the future, just wait until all murm skills can be used mounted and this will be the new pvp meta.
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>>164838126
What if I play Cata as a girl?
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>>164838183
You can play it as girl but only true cata players will play as guys and be good with it

Any cataplayer that played as female is trash (eg Cats, Atom, Cattly)
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>>164838029
That thing is cute.
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>>164838183

Make sure that you don't have a penis in middle of your legs
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>>164838251
I want to play as Heckapelt because muh mongol but my ping is shit.
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Who's the best tosg catagoon? I want to become his sword-bearer
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>>164838518
>I want to become his sword-bearer

Uhmmm.. they have spears that need 2 hands..
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>>164838582
I meant i want to be his squire (not Squire)
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>>164838518
Was Bainrigh
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Pve focused lancer is not a thing, right?
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>>164838773
Does he play?
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>>164838907
Yeah not a thing. Don't see them much at all actually, their role seems to be more supportive in nature than the typical catgoon build that throws dethrone for kills so they aren't as popular.
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Does catagoons focuse on str or con?
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>>164839318
Dex, nobody except wugushi goes strength because the base damage of later skills and upgraded weapons is so high that str doesn't do much.
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>>164839242
Alright, thanks lad. Was thinking that the crush and quinta combo with maybe spear lunge up would do decent damage if you went pelthop2cata3lancer. Best to just stick with goon2 then
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>>164836665
>sword 3
Must be pain to level
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>>164839959

only if you're a brand new player

otherwise with hats, gung ho + concentrate attribute (120k), cafrisun and pardoner buffs you can faceroll the game
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>>164836410
The savage Japanese Imperial army that invaded their gookland murdering thousands or the waito piggu that nuked the fuck out of their overlords. Who would they hate more?
>>
>>164841380
Asians hate other asians, but they hate non-asians even more.
>>
Did they ever fix the frame skipping in this game? I played for like 400 hours when it came out, but the frame skipping got to painful. I really want to play this game again.
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>>164841991
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>>164842742
I guess that is a no. That's a shame.
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>>164842970
They're working on it
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>>164841991

it's 50% better in comparison to the launch

get some addons, defrag game's folder and you can play fine
>>
Someone post the new emoticon pack
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>>164843162
>Defrag

lol what.. this is 2017. Fragmentation hasn't been a thing in like a decade. Also it's on an SSD and running on a gtx 1070. I get 200+ fps.

The frame skipping is not a hardware issue. The game is poorly coded and there is no fix until they fix it.

I thought waiting over a year would cause this priority number 1 issue to get fixed, but I guess not.
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>>164843273

not everyone wastes their ssd space with this trahs, that's why I suggest defrag

mind you, 90% of this general population is sea monkeys / brs so you can't expect top tier gear when giving advices
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>>164703843
While this whole thing was going down we were going like "Lena is a fucking retard" in DMs. He literally joined the discord the day he talked to Jake and went full autist. "Le alch mafia" never actually wanted to do anything evil, we've pretty much just tried to build a symbiotic relationship (which we successfully did in Fed). Going like "xddd well putt 6k roszts nxt 2 u xdddd we donut forigv" is way too retarded. The only reasons we supported him were that we're inclusive (we even accept Gee_Banter in the mafia even tho nobody likes him) and that Jake was even more autistic about it.

Also
>tfw people shippost more than I did since I quit
feels boat man. I'll be back when Archer Sailor releases.
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>>164843702
COME BACK I'M TIRED OF PAYING 1500 FOR SP POTS
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>>164844059
Have SP pot prices really risen that much in a week?
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>>164844201
Yes, been like this for 4 days at least.
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>>164844059
>1500 sp pots
Maybe I should make my own Alch.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21227444e.1323354351.1a2a31415573.11243545.1f23364a516575.1135425285

this is my next build and you can't stop me!

in fact, no one can, this build can solo r8 content. If Kim give me my practonium of course.
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>TOS has 50 viewers on twitch
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>>164845345


really makes you think
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>>164845345
>>164845458

That just means more people are playing ToS rather than simply watching it!
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>>164845458
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What in tarnation
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>>164845651
Seamonkeys...
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>>164845651

he's waiting for the supreme spear class that will come at r9!

even thought he already had the option to go lancer and dragoon 2, kek
>>
>>164845651
>>164846002
It'll actually be the perfect R10 set up. And will shit on the goon3 variant
>>
>>164846064

also, why you went doppel 1 for your lancer m8
you love making dpe on gold mobs webms THIS MUCH?
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>>164846162

Cyclone+restrain works better in PvE and PvP compared to generic goon 1 skills. Gay bulge is also a trap.
>>
did it crash or is it just me?
>>
I know, it's like a second rush and goon 1 is pure trash, but why not a more offensive support role with corsair? cyclone rarely works for pvp
>>
>>164846908

Corsair's a good alternative but I like spin2win better, especially outside of PvP as well
>>
If I'm going doppel 3 should I max Deeds or nah? I wanna make a doppel 3 but I'm totally lost with the skill distribution
>>
Im going archer2>qs3 now and I was planning on going for Sr next but since I dont have any good aoe now I don't know if that choice wouldn't be a pain in the ass while soloing on later maps. Atm im in a team with a barbarian so the aoe isnt that much of a problem yet but if I go for c3 in Sr I wouldn't be able to farm later on. Should I still advance in Sr or go another class
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>>164848706
i'm told qs3 is useless in r8, now is probably the time to reroll before you invest too much more time
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>>164848782
Not him but I'm currently AR>QS3>Rogue>SR1 to SR3. How useless is QS3?
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>>164848782
I already used my rank Reset for my Wizard is it really that bad later on? Im not doing any pvp content I just want a fun archer to kill some bosses and pve a bit
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>>164849103
qs3 is ok for most stuff just a little worst than ranger3 for sr3 when using meltis for earth tower and stuff
>>
Came back after a very long break to find I have a rank reset item. Seeing as I don't have to redo the fuck awful quest grind I was wondering what a nice sword build would be. I was thinking sword3>cata3>dragoon2 for a knight-like build. Would that be good or am I going to need to read up more on this?
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>>164848706
As crazy as it sounds going QS3 Wugu3 Hacka1 wouldn't be too bad. Go full Str.
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>>164850358

That'll do.
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>>164850358
Depends how serious you are about the mini-game. That is a full PvP build and if you don't have the funding to support it your Rush will tick 1's on more geared players. Dethrone still hurts like a bitch though.
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>>164850358

this is the top pvp swordsman build and can do really well on pve
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>>164850902
Not sure about PvP. Didn't get into it before because the game was a laggy mess. Seems better now, but I dunno. Have more fun grinding for cute hats. Might make this a PvP character and gear my alts for PvE.
>>
>>164850560
>>164850902
>>164850987
If it's good for PvE too then I'm fine with it. Funding I might be okay. Stocked up on tokens during release. Thanks everyone.
>>
At which level should I get a token to benefit the most from it while making enough money to affort it? Atm 204 and saving money for virtov
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>>164851485
At Lvl 1.
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>>164851485
Fuck virtov, buy token.
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>>164851597
>lv.1 and making 1.5 Mio
You were the funny one in your class if I had to guess
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>>164851769
Make it 2.5m, also what is TP good goy?
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>>164851912
>gvg circlejerk
Nah thx
Fed Token for 1.8 Mio atm
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>>164851485
skip virtov m80, use superior 220 armor and throw in some lvl6 gems from soloing stage 8 uphill for a few days
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>>164852270
Should I keep them till 315 and upgrade to lolopanther or buy the token first then farm the armor and afterwards farm the virtov set myself
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>>164852451
get your token asap

virtov is good but not so much better than white with gems that its worth farming or buying, better to spend your time and money leveling attributes

lolopanther is the next logical upgrade but theres also a few other higher level options
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>>164852642
Im an int cleric so I guess cloth Lolo should fit my build best. Is lv 50 for my dps attr enough or should I go up to 70
>>
What's the most lewd TP costume in the game thus far?
>>
>>164853343
100 with stage 10 315 orange weapon is the goal ( which basically everyone already has... )

anything less and you're behind
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>>164854162
Well that could take some time
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>>164854162
Nice meme
>>
how is Miko?
and does conversion finally work properly for the paladin?
>>
>just got game
>don't really know what I'm supposed to be doing

I just do quests until I get high level right?


I know my classes I'm supposed to pick but I don't really know how/what weapons I should get or how I should invest stats ;_;
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>>164855172
queued tbl much lately?

literally 90% of the people are walking around wearing full lolo and stage 8+ weapons
>>
Some one post a fencer build.
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>>164855780
Reroll build
When will people learn that anything locked to a specific weapon becomes total shit when other classes get better weapons. It's like your niggers didn't learn from qs3.
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>>164855279
You quest and do dungeons/instances everyday (type /indun to see instances) until you reach the 200s and then you join grind parties and quest when you want to solo.
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>>164856137
https://tos.neet.tv/items/183201

Fuck off
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>>164855780
Sword 3 Pelt Corsair Fencer 3
Generic rapier and gun fencer that excels in both PvP and PvE and looks stylish as fuck

Sword Highlander Pelt Hop 2 Fencer 3
Top PvE DPS
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>>164856351
also is druid a meme i never see anyone talk about it
>>
>>164856137
except fencers can shit damage and they'll add another rapier class or any weapon class for them in r9
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>>164856438
>gun fencer
>corsair1
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>>164816638
what happened during halloween event?

fuck I been away for so long, I probably missed a ton of good shit
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>>164856642
A 1 month old update on kTOS allows Corsair1 to equip guns. By december this year we must be getting it.
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>>164856950
Nice misinfo.

We all know iTOS will be closed before december.
>>
>>164856431
Where does it drop
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>>164857458
Same place this drops: https://tos.neet.tv/items/203203
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>>164857119
imc also runs granado espada and it has been up for a decade besides having as many players total as orsha
>>
>>164857119
December was last month and it's still up. You were predicting it wouldn't last 6 months to begin with, so you've been getting humiliated for months now.
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>>164858420
>december was last month
>when he said december this year

Retard
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>>164858609
The Chinese Lunar New Year is on January 28 so it's still the same year.
>>
>>164858960
FUCK LUNARRABBIT
>>
>>164858960

Year of the cock soon!
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>>164858960
okay, good point
>>
>>164858960
>i think slowly so time passes slower for me
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>>164855260
thanks for ignoring me, I hope your fucking game literally dies and you are forced to play maple story or some other retarded shit like that
>>
>>164859860
I'm sorry. Miko is fantastic, lots of fun and it is very strong. Conversion is still bugged, however.
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>>164859860
we'd probably be better off with maplestory desu
>>
>>164822821
>>164824429
This and I also wanna know if Creeping Death gets extra holy dmg from Kagura Dance.
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>>164859860
Now I feel like playing it again.
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>>164859860

If this game does die, eventually, what's everyone gonna play anyway?
>>
>>164862360
Nothing
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>>164862360
This is my last MMO
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>>164856950
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/attributes/10011

pls go
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Is the map fog Add-On bannable?
>>
>>164862360

>next MMO I play
>what, I can directly trade the currency with other players?
>HOLD THE PHONE, I can buy materials and then resell it?
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE TRADING CARD MINI-GAME ISN'T AN ARBITARY ROCK-PAPER-SCISSORS?
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>need 1 more varv skin
>game keeps closing channel
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>>164854117
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>>164777480
what server is Rance playing on?
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>>164814532
>passive aggressive yellowtexting
>exceptional
It's pathetic.
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>>164864660
Orsha uniform really is the best.
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>>164862998
>>164863493
Same.
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>>164845458
We're jumping ship to Tibia?
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>>164863735
if you're talking about ffxiv then it doesn't matter, gil gets you next to nothing worthwhile

ffxiv is the worst, the grind is shit and it's total vertical progression with nothing to do endgame once you do the short grind for weekly tomes unless you're part of the 1% of players that do endgame raids

only thing you do endgame is craft shit, level alts, and shitty pvpmemes that are worse than ToS then you get bored because there's literally nothing else to do. no reason to farm currency because gil is next to useless
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>>164865210
>gil gets you next to nothing worthwhile
except you know, crystals for crafting, all the nice glamours, materia...
>>
>>164865295
it gets you

>shit gear for your shit geared character
to use to get tomes for better gear that you won't use except for the hot new primal fight which is just another fucking memorization game
>crystals
to craft shit that doesn't matter. you craft in FFXIV to get your crafting level up and make gil, gil which is used to craft more and get...
>glamour
lmao okay costumes sure
>materia
nobody uses materia, even the 1% of players that do endgame raids only probably 10% of them use materia and most of them are the ones like Blue Garter who try to get world/server first shit

the grind in ffxiv is shit. there is no sense of purpose or progression, it's a fucking elevator
>>
>>164865631
why so jaded bro? lmao
>>
>>164865754
I played ffxiv for years. every new patch makes your previous progression worthless because it gets the entire playerbase caught up

it's a streamlined casual simulator that makes everything you do meaningless. I was a hardcore endgame raider for Alexander savage and I'm sure if I returned right now my item level would be shit compared to casual ERPers who only play an hour or two a day
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>>164865631
>nobody using materia
>6 slotted crafted battle gear
get a load of this guy
>>
>>164863735
>HOLD THE PHONE, I can buy materials and then resell it?
I hope not. Gas the market jews. One of the few bright spots in this game's restricted clusterfuck of an economy is we don't have to deal with everything getting bought out just to drive prices up. Being able to use the currency as currency with other players would be a truly revolutionary innovation, though.
>>
>>164866342
>waaah why doesn't console game appreciate me, a super elitist autist raider
:ok_hand::skin-tone-5:
>>
What was it about Ragnarok Online that made itemization so good? Every episode released new equipment that was good but it hardly made old gear useless, at least not until after Renewal anyway. I've played the game exhaustively but I can't pinpoint an exact cause for this.
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>>164866515
well that's why I quit and am playing ToS now where new players can't catch up in a month or a week or two after a new patch hits :^)
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>>164866649
guess you cant really handle an even playing field huh ;)

enjoy 2 shotting those casuals anon
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>>164866649
Why does it matter that people can catch up? How do they negatively affect your gameplay?
More people to play and have fun with.
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>>164866730
>not 600 con
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>>164866640

Because gear was almost never a straight upgrade.

They didn't release a sword with 100 damage and 10 str, then next patch release another sword with 120 damage and 15 str, then the patch after than 150 damage and 20 str and so on.
It was always sidegrades and you had to choose which was better.

On top of this, gear had a wider variety of effects and there was a large variety of builds of which some worked better with certain items than others.

ToS lacks most of this due to a poorly designed stat system, poorly designed class system and really badly handled skills and scaling.
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>>164866745
>>164866796
gear is a result of your hard work and dedication

having a full lolo set means something because nobody can easily get it. having a bunch of alts to farm silver means something because it took a lot of hard work and my wealth is a result of it. if your progression means nothing then what's the point? where's the fun in even bothering with progression when you could just wait for the next patch and progress to the bare minimum each time to catch up with the tryhards who worked their asses off?
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>>164866986
>having a full lolo set means something because nobody can easily get it

No, it means something because it gives more beneficial stats than the alternatives.
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>>164866986
i could have full lolo stage 10 max attributes by the end of the day if i wanted to spend a few bucks

hows that make you feel
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>>164867216
no you couldn't.

nobody sells full lolo set pieces, people only sell the gloves
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>>164866501
Probably a good thing for ToS. Not every MMO can be like EVE though I wish more of them were.
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>>164867216
also, time = money, money = time. whaling is fair game imo

>>164867148
scarcity increases value regardless of what you think lmao
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>>164867330
you think some pve khuckold wouldn't give me the clothes off his back for a few hundred mil?

>>164867435
>whaling is fair game imo
that was the last thing i was expecting a pve autist to say
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>>164865125
Orsha a shit.
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>>164865125
tfw no one will ever do a good mtu-like upskirt of ToS classes
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>>164867602
You're a shit, Orsha is the best town
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>>164863684
myself and everyone I know has had it since it came out anon, and no problems.
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>>164866796
Other players are in your pvp matches and instance runs and they're competing with you over world bosses and farmable mobs. It's not fun to invest a thousand hours into your character only to find that a patch hits and suddenly new players with hardly any time invested are kicking your ass and taking your drops because the new welfare gear is better than what you put all that work into.

And then once you get over that, you realize there's no point in putting effort into the new stuff because you can just wait for the patch and get better stuff easily. Then there's no motivation to play the game.

>>164867216
It makes me feel like you're a sucker for spending more money on the game than imc does. However, this is why full p2w games suck. ToS is pretty good on that front officially, and the problem is their enforcement against black market RMT is absent. Yes, allowing blatant cheating to go unchecked does ruin games too.
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>>164868598
I just bought 50m by RMTing.

What are the chances of getting banned?
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>>164869049
Close to none
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>waiting for a daily party
>look away for 0.00001 seconds
>290+saalus 1/5 shout
>already full by the time I click
Every. Fucking. Time.
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>>164869049
Pretty slim. Not even sure if someone got banned JUST for RMTing.
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>>164869049
Depends on if you get caught on the market or if the supplier reports you

ExpeditionTeam got banned for example after blatantly RMTing for so long
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>>164869148

What server and lvl? I'm about to solo saalus.
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>>164869049
What site senpai?
I'm looking to buy some silver too, but don't know about a reliable page for it
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>>164866640
The cards, progression and economy was based around cards

new content = new cards, but you would still need shit like phen card, or anglering, or whatever, new cards didn't make old cards useless at all, and getting new cards wasn't as easy, people knew this and were willing to either rng the cards with extreme luck, or painfully grind older content and sotockpile buttloads of money to get a newer card.

Problem was inflation, there was not enough items to supply all the players, so big expensive items kept getting more expensive as bots flooded the economy with zeny but not with shit like boss cards, and surplus of shit cards as well so lowbie cards weren't worth that much later on.

Obviously this all changes with private servers and every update and class balance and etc etc, but RO had 2 great features that not all games repat, fixed loot, and card system, this is a recipee for success that I can't believe devs have such a hard time properly replicating nowadays.
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>>164869343
>tfw jace is the supplier to half of these gold selling sites and has a list of everyone who rmts on klaipeda
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>>164866342

>every new patch makes your previous progression worthless because it gets the entire playerbase caught up

and that's one of the wonderful things about the game, it affords casual players the chance to keep up reasonably well with the new content and just take it easy and enjoy the game's content for what it has to offer rather than having to spend hundreds of hours on soul-crushing grind just to keep up like ToS

oh wait except ToS has no content so all you can do with your stage 10 trans weapon is dick wave it around
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>>164869343
>ExpeditionTeam got banned for example after blatantly RMTing for so long
kek
>implying it wasn't for his hook use
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>>164869343
No way, ExpeditionTeam got banned? Really? is it in forums somewhere?

>>164869907
The problem with RO inflation in general is that the amount of Zeny that gets into the game is superior to the amount that leaves. Almost all silver that's generated in the game is created by NPCs and sunk by NPCs, but people don't spend as much as they receive. Bots, of course, are part of this. Things get more and more expensive, until you get to a point like iRO Valkyrie when a server is up for over a decade and has received merges from a bunch of servers and it's a mass of accumulated wealth.

The Potential system in ToS was supposed to be a solution for this. Items could only change hands so many times before becoming stuck, so gear dropped today wouldn't be in circulation 3 years from now. However, they binded all kinds of other unrelated shit to Potential, which made it pointless.
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Sup guys, I just installed the game and have some questions that I cant find an answer to

Does this game have good solo content?
I like to play alone and do dungeons/ missions alone, similar to rifts in Diablo 3

I picked a cleric and am following this build. http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/nq9fr23bax/
Did I fuck up?

I always like to play melee magic classes and cleric seemed like the only one.
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>>164870287
>and that's one of the wonderful things about the game
And one of the worse as well.

Some people don't like to see their progression shattered every update. Specially in a game like tos where resetting at anytime isn't possible. So even if you don't take a bad decision, fi the devs introduce something new, it might be a bad decision, classic example of elememes.
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>>164869750
MMOTANK
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>reached 100
>tries the daily mission
>tries to set fireballs for jp
>party keeps kicking it to the boss
D-do they hate me or something ;-;
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>>164870512
nah he didn't hook

t. someone who ran with expeditionteam quite a bit
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>>164870287
Skipping to the newest means those casuals never see most of the content. "Soul-crushing grind" is a funny euphemism for gameplay. The old WoW forums "I just want to see the content" excuses aren't going to fool anyone now that everyone has seen it really means "I want to skip all the content and play game genie mode."

Besides, real casuals don't get uptight about seeing every raid or having top gear. The "poor downtrodden casuals" whining usually comes from hardcore no lifers who just suck at games and want to get all the rewards for free.
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>>164870884
It was the reason that a pyro was fucking garbage for the longest time.

Just get pyro2linker, link your fireballs to the monster and it will die before you retarded party kicks it away.
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>>164871018
Don't be silly, his alt used to force invite people at bees into parties for leeching.
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>>164871846
It was named Jewel or something like that right? I remember.
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>>164870660
reroll
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Defend this game.
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>>164873950
It has cute chronomancers to hold hands with.
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>>164873401
why?
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>>164874591

But Chronomancers aren't cute. They all look pregnant.
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>>164870660
Good build
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>>164874775
Delete this.
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>>164874591
My personal chronomancer last logged in 3 months ago.
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>>164874775
And they all look same too
That ugly ass green hair, then the dumb looking horns and autistic heart eyes

I've seen to many of these retarded looking moesaki clones
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>>164870660
Its ok in pve but most people take diev3 miko or x instead of bokor2 pardoner nowadays
Nothing wrong with that build tho if you want to buildit
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>>164875143

Don't bully Moesaki. She's pregnant with my kid.
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>>164875215
>your kid
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>>164874812
>>164875175
Im really just looking for a pve soloing build, but i see that most of the skills in diev are utility and party oriented.

What classes would you pick for a fully offensive build? I've heard the cleric 2 is a necessity for any cleric build

I have a full reset scroll for some reason
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>>164875646
That build is fine and very good at killing things solo, Diev is a broken class and the way this game works most of your damage comes from your later rank skills anyway.
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>>164875646
>>164875929
This, you'll solo easily with pd, the diev skills are great utility for yourself when you start mobbing later on
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leveling a cleric 2 diev 3, will reach miko in like 20 or 30 levels, does it get better? leveling is suffering, or at least for me, this is my first character and it feels really slow
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>>164761379
I have a newbie question about chaplain's skill, last rites. If I cast that on someone like a Psychokinesis, and that Psychokinesis cast Gravity Pole, does the Gravity Pole now makes holy magic damage instead of physical damage?
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>make new char
>gets summoned to legwyn
>open chest
>delete character if no flower branch
>make new character
>repeat step next hour

This is too autistic even for me
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>>164876664
Last Rites is an additional damage line, like Sacrament, so no.
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>>164876920
What are the chances?
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>>164874775
That just makes it better.
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>>164877017

Very low, but I can imagine some autist doing this with 10 alts opening the chest every hour
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>>164876339
>this is my first character
That explains it. You're probably doing things inefficiently and underequipped.
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>>164878409
any tips? I have been leveling without buffs or scrolls, do buffs help? I thought they were mostly for archers and swordsman.
Also, what's the best grinding spot at level 143? I'm saving up level 7 exp cards
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>>164878923
sacrament and blessing with cafrisun will get any class to rank 6+ or so ezmode even if you only have auto attacks.
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>>164878923
The hourlong pardoner buffs are OP as fuck.
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>>164875114
Find a new one!
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>>164876969
so it only works with normal attacks?
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>>164880764
And holy property attacks, like Cure
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>>164880836
Wait what.
Would it work on Kagura's dance line then?
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HOW DO I MONK
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>>164881168

what's purpose of your monk

people here can shit on monk but monk inq is actually one of the most comfy builds to solo roll r8
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>>164880836
How does Last Rites actually work? I don't think I've ever seen somebody say anything about it other than that it's "like Sacrament". Is it just a second instance of sacrament? Is it stronger? Does it add another line that's a multiplier of your holy property damage?
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>>164881578
>Is it just a second instance of sacrament?
Yes
>Is it stronger?
Yes
>Does it add another line that's a multiplier of your holy property damage?
It adds another line, but it's not a multiplier of holy damage, but of Sacrament itself
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>>164881168
you reroll
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How does "leeching/er" work in this game?
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/svretw6of9/
Gud or not
R8 would be wl2 I guess
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There's a pulse!
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>>164883061
Masaka.
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>>164882198
Warlocks do it the best.
Invocation spawns black spirits of doom when enemies die, and anything that touches it dies as well because warlocks are fucking OP. Therefore once you clear an area with invocation active, all the spirits will continue killing mobs that spawn near the automatically, causing new spirits to appear and continuing the chain reaction.

Warlocks can do this in certain low leveled areas because the spawn rate is good and they earn a shitload of silver, monster gems, golden anvils, etc. By setting loot to individual, they can invite newbs to their party to share the exp but not the loot. That way the warlock can farm for money and the newbs can leech for EXP. Since more people in a map tend to increase the quantity of mobs that spawn, it's always a nice thing to have people leeching from you (except for event spawned mobs, those work either way).

Commonly leeched maps are infrorocktors at west sialuai woods and all three royal mauso maps (storage, chapel, lodge) through their mob-spawning events. These can take someone from 1 to over a 100 in just a few hours.

The next leech area is Dina Bee Farm and it's usually started in the 122-140 range and can be used up to the 180s. The exp slows down here, unless you manage to find a warlock to leech from in which case it's awesome. The good thing is that since there's no channel hopping involved you can just AFK all day/night long.

Those are the basics for getting a character from level 1 to rank 6. The gap between royal mauso and dina bee farm can be filled with dungeons and missions, and maybe a couple quests if you're in a hurry. Leeching became a thing once everyone got bored of repeating all the retarded low level quests in every alt they made. The first warlocks doing it would charge the leechers because they were massive jews, but competition eventually made it pointless. You still earn a shitload of silver from the mobs anyway.
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Alright, level 80 at 4th job...

I think I'm going back to Mabingoi

Similar aesthetics but far more things to do along with a much better skill/class system (Even FF14 has a better class system, though not skill)

Overall it's really meh Doesn't do anything too poorly but doesn't do anything Great at all.

Only problem I have with Mabi is the amount of content. Should be about 5 to 7 games by now, but it's all in 1 game and makes things difficult in finding groups
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>>164883061
It's just people claiming rank resets
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>>164881168
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>game bricks but can read and chat normally
jeez
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>>164883538
Thanks. So pretty much the leechers just pick up loots for the warlock as payment? The idea itself is nice.
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>>164884398
Not really, leechers just stand somewhere safe and do nothing. In maps like dina bee farm having more people increases the respawn rate of mobs, so it helps the leechers.
In maps like royal mauso it doesn't matter, so it's more of a commensalism type of relationship.
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>>164884281
The chat is on a different server.
I can get full dced but still type and read the chat.
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>>164884157

I WANT THIS HAMMER FOR MY RODELERO

holy shit my man 2.3k crit attack is no fucking joke

how further you need to transcend a 315 mage to get this? Even so you'll wont even get the aoe ratio

this shit maybe even worth a stage 5
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>>164884398
you can't pick up loot assigned to the person who's supposed to get it - warlock still needs to move around to pick up the loot if he wants them, so the leechers are really just there to leech
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I haven't played in while and I'm getting back into the game, what guild is nice?
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>>164884157
There has to be some sort of hack to level up gems. There are too many of those Lv8 gems going around, and that other guy has Lv9 Reds on his Lv10 trans 315 orange weapon. Even if you bought all the mats on market it wouldn't be enough for a single Lv9 gem.
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>>164885571

those are lv 7 gems on her hammer

but yeah, the abrasive farm event was a mistake
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>>164885656
The abrasive farm event doesn't explain all of this. It wasn't THAT many abrasives.
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>>164885765
Yes it was if you nolifed it.
And you do know you get like 7+ abrasives in 3 days from uphill + tbl?
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>>164885964
I am trying but my brain hurts just trying to imagine running Uphill every day with multiple characters.
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>>164886104
Just do it on one? it's not like you're forced to do it on many.
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>>164886245
You do it properly or you don't do it at all.
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>>164886431
Uphill gives pvp points, so makes sense to do it on the character that you TBL with so they stack.

No real reason to do it with other characters unless you absolutely need it or are autistic.
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>>164885765


anon...

abrasive farm mafia was insane on orsha
plus after the fix, was the "compensation abuse problem.

'member that they give 5 (iirc) seeds for everyone as compensating? and +1 each day from the npc natural event.

but there was another bug: when the npc gave you another seed, he would take all the seeds you already had and give you +1 so let's say I had 4, when I asked for my daily seed he took that 4 from me and then give me 5.

thing is, you could just...lock your seeds (same as your equips that you don't want to miss click sell/upgrade) and well, he won't any from you os my now 5 seeds give was multiplied by 2 + 1 (daily).

they also lowed the seed the cooldown so you could do lots of seeds on a day easily

also, alts had separated cooldown so if you was smart enough, you could spread the seeds to your alts, "dupe" then and well' lad, as long as no one stole from you, you could do some serious abrasive farm
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>>164882327
Bump?
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>>164885541
FP, cute, and CnL are all nice.

As time has passed all the ingame meanies of /tosg/ have quit. People may be rude on the thread sometimes but all /tosg/ are pleasant ingame except for Swaaz but he's not in a guild.

You can't go wrong with any of the guilds anymore.
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>>164884157
How the FUCK did this guy get +15 on a FIVE HAMMER?????????
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>>164887614
Golden anvils, son.
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>>164883771
I think the music and cute characters are great. Otherwise sadly agree..
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Which area starts dropping level 3 gems?
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>>164891330
3 star maps
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did they remove the lifespan on guinea pigs?
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>>164893787
Yes.
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>>164893787
Yes, but no food still.
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>>164885541

Futureproof is very chill. We have a handful of new guys right now as well, so you can make friends easy. We've been doing guild dungeons again and Lvlng parties again well. Shoot cats a pm he's on now.
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>>164881168
>Monk
>no fist weapons
>weapon in hand just disappears for monk attacks

pretty shit desu
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>>164894396
>no fist weapons
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>>164894481
You know what I mean, you cheeky motherfucker
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>>164894651
xd
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>>164894481
>lalaco's new toy
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>>164894958
>lalacos new warmup toy
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How much better does mobbing get when I unlock Bokr 1 from Cleric 2?
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>>164887382
>>164894365

and Very dead too
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>>164895809


not much because hexing hitbox is very small. also the aoe ratio (or target limit not sure) depends on the skill level

you'll eventually master it but it will be only a real aoe combo when you get pandemic from pd
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>>164896102
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>>164897385
You're just recruiting literally anyone now?
half of these are not /tosg/ at all
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>>164897601
Who are you to decide who is /tosg/ and who isn't?
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>>164897601
>Cats doesnt play
Post tons of gameplay
>Cats guild is dead
Post full guild
>Cats just recrutes anyone
This guy falls for anything the thread says, doesn't he?
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How much MDef should I have to comfortably solo questing 280+ maps?
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>>164897385
>Phantom Phane
hehehe
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>>164866640
>What was it about Ragnarok Online that made itemization so good?
It was shitty and I disliked it* (Note, I'm talking about pre renewal, 2-1 & 2-2 class era RO)

The card system was nice but it felt kind of barren to me because I'd rather play games where you get lots of item drops with randomized enchantments and stats. Cards were okay and I liked that it required materials to upgrade stuff but I always felt the item side of it was lacking. I don't know how it is nowadays though.

One up side was the variety though, since you could get them to be different elements and affect different things so the systems actually mattered.

>>164869907
>surplus of shit cards
This was the downside of cards though and other systems where you can put your own enchantment onto items: Most of them end up shit you don't really want or just a stopgap at best. Just being random from drops or having random ways to reroll the enchants would make items better since there would be items with good and bad sides and weapons with insanely good only positive enchants. You'd be happy to have that sword with str + 3 if you couldn't just farm up an item and slap str + 10 on it and ignore str + 3 altogether.

Alchemists sort of work this way, but in a shitty way since IMC gets cold feet every time they start doing something fun because they think it might be overpowered or something. Like awakenings should be able to give a greater range of enchantments, maybe even 2 or 3 lines with the ability to have negative lines. It'd really liven up the usual boring items. Instead they gave that possible negative ability to Briquetting, a skill which barely changes anything. Briquetting could have been used to transfer stats or be the only way to upgrade gems or something.

Worst is IMC has that star and rarity system that's used at least in awakening and a couple other things that could be used for so much more, especially if it weren't "higher level item = more stars."
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>>164898075
3k
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>>164898028
He doesn't play. He literally doesn't know the game.
He does recruit anyone from shout after a quick intro to """"TOSG"""" (basically tell people to browse 4chan so they can automatically be considered """"TOSG""""").
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>>164898685
>>164898685
Post proof lol
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>>164898684

Well I have 900 with a gemmed cloth set, wizard bracs and petamion so I have to wonder what IMC is smoking
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>>164898028
Those were all true before he picked it up the last few days. I'm glad FP is back on track.
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>>164898805
>wizard bracs
Get some actual m.def ones.
Get a shield.
Get some Nuaeles too if you can.

2k or hell even 1.5k is doable, but you need to be careful.
Bosses particularly will chunk you.
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>>164898794
Proof about what? There's a reason FP can only do 4 (FOUR) gvg games a week. Have fun getting into the top 10 with only 4 matches all while trying to dodge Crimson/Lotus/Alpha/Diamond.

He and Rance always were complete outsiders to 4chan anyway.
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>>164898969

Well it's a warlock2 so I figured my dumb ass needs more matk but I guess I'm better off transcending my shit some more. Glass bracelet good enough or do I need rhevsian?
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How much does this game cost to play? I tried playing free when the game came out and soon realized you can't do shit unless you pay the monthly fee. I can't find any info on what the fee is though. Anyone know?
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>>164899147
Considering most mobs are Dark Rhevisian are better, but on other elements the difference is pretty small.

You could always just get carried by a friendly cleric.
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>>164899304

>orsha

I wish I could get carried, but thanks
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>>164899208
There is no fee.
Tokes are relatively cheap, once you get to medium-high level you can easily farm the price to buy one.

Buying a token will greatly speed you up in the first month however.

Tokens are 99 TPs, which is around 10$ if I'm not mistaken.
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>>164899510

You can't do anything without a token except run around and grind. If I buy a token for one month would that be enough time to get high enough level to buy tokens with in game currency?
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>leave my grinding spot in DP2 for a second
>a nigger warlock is there when I come back
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>>164899208
Did you post in the wrong thread?
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>>164899724
yes
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>>164899849

Nah nigga. You can't do shit in the game without a token let's not kid ourselves. This isn't a F2P game.
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I played Ragnarok for a long time, is this game similar? Is it pay2win?
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>>164899003
>asked to post proof
>changes subject again
>smugpopo
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>>164899910
But you can do everything except use team storage and animated emotes. Do people even bother using those while ERPing? Don't they just type out text anyway?
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>enemy team has 3 or more clerics
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>>164900075
It has the same feel. It's not pay 2 win.

It's just as grindy, and it's pretty relaxing. Mechanics are totally different though, as are a lot of things. It's the same flavor but a different texture if you know what I mean. Try it and see if you like it.
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>>164900075
>Is it similar

Kind of. Similar artstyle and class system but different gameplay.

>Is it pay to win

There is a sub token like PLEX in EvE and you can sell cash items to other players but getting a significant edge through the cash shop would be prohibitively expensive.
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How is the pvp in this game? I'm looking for an MMO with good pvp. Is it possible to solo in this game too? I don't really like joining guilds. I'd like to mostly solo and join random players temporarily for hard stuff then go back to solo. Can it be done in this game?
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>>164900447
Pvp is the worst reason to play this game, it sucks.
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>>164900447
>I'm looking for an MMO with good pvp.
Look somewhere else then.
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>>164900447
It would fun if it actually worked.
>>
>>164900552
>>164900582
>>164900634

What's the point of the game then? It's just a big coop game where you casually PvE? I don't understand the appeal.
>>
>>164900693
Grind, people like to grind
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>>164900693
The art is cute.
>>
>>164900075
It has some similarities, but I wouldn't consider it nearly as good. Comfy game though and worth giving a try if you have some time to burn.
>>
>>164900721

What are you grinding for though. What is the goal of the game, does it have a good story to progress through?
>>
>>164900693
Hats, grind, and erp.
>>
>>164901010
The goal is to up your equip to be strong enough to clear the 40floor end game dungeon. Playing any MMO solely for pvp is dumb.
>>
>>164901010
This game is kinda similar to warframe. Your grind to be better at grinding so you can do more grinding for later content.
>>
>>164900693
casually grind
casually pve
casually socialize
it's a pretty casual game
>>
>>164901010
Some people like getting their build to r8 and then gearing their char
>>
>>164901010
The story is kinda fun but it's delivered poorly. Tons of quests are just filler shit nobody cares about, but some really help you understand the world's lore and why some maps look the way they do, etc.
>>
>>164901010
This >>164901253

For example, I make around 5m a day (which is quite a lot!) and I pour every single bit of silver into transcending my weapon just so I can clear daily runs of Saalus, Mercenary Post, and the 145 dungeon faster. These are all mindless grinds, and I don't invest towards any difficult PvE or PvP content. It's just fun beating my old record clear times!
>>
>>164902073
Whats your clear time? Also char/build
>>
>>164902467
Uhmm my build is pretty unique so I'd rather not namedrop myself.

All solo, 12min clear on 145, 5mins on Siauliai, 8mins on Crystal Mines, 5mins on Canyon Area Mission, 5mins on Royal Maus mission, and before they removed Area of Ruins I was at 6mins.

I want to hit 10min on 145 like those scouts in those 145 clear videos, and someday hit 3mins on Siauliai. I don't think I will be able to go much faster on the Saalus missions though because of all the running, but I think I can bring it down to 4mins for Royal Maus in the future.
>>
>>164903080
Is that an archer or PD2 build?
can't imagine anyone doing such fast 145 that arent either

scout3
reiter3
or PD2
>>
>>164903291
Archer. Oblique shot at 100%, have 4349-6057 physical attack atm
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>>164903456
The only archer with that investment on /tosg/ and that use of exclamation marks is obviously Korasai

ez
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>>164899835
I hate warlocks so fucking much.

It's not even good money. Why do they do this
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>>164904196
but it IS good money
>>
Feroscious pack of predatory burbs mauls innocent street vendor and clergyman

https://youtu.be/_zqKKQfRdfA

More news at 11
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>>164903080
>>164903741
>Those clears
>wugu
sokka
>>
>>164903080

>8 min crystal mines

>tfw lv 125 pyromancer and doing it faster
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>>164903080
>8mins on Crystal Mines
That's not possible.
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>>164904292
>B3r3tt4 from Orsha

Poor Canelle.
>>
>>164904612
In the BR's defense, they did kill Kazuto.

https://youtu.be/Dub94IPlD0A
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>>164904827

>br kill a br

really makes you think
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>>164904885
kazuto is br?
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>>164904885
Yeah, think I don't wanna go to Brazil

>>164904943
Well he has a gun, and is shooting BRs so I can really only assume

Futureproof is recruiting btw, pm Cats while he's on.
>>
>>164904292
>>164904827
why is cats turning full swaaz on us now?
>>
Did we get that patch that makes armor and accessories cheaper to transcend than weapons yet? Contemplating upgrading my armor for reasons.
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>>164904581
It is if you're not farming it. Which is dumb.
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>>164905181


yup
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>>164906401
For anyone too lazy to do the math, from stage 1 to stage 10 transcend:
>weapon is 286 blessed gems = 515m
>armor is 143 blessed gems = 257m
>accessory is 127 blessed gems = 229m
>shield is 161 blessed gems = 290m
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>>164901127
That's bullshit and you know it. No one here is autistic enough to do that unless you're in Team Skull. Oh wait never mind carry on.
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>>164906805
That is assuming you always do 100%
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>>164907164
>not doing 100%
LMAO
>>
>canelle
>>
>team skull
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>>164907164
That's true. My bad.

>>164907235
Ehhh I did 100% for the first few levels but after level 4 I've done 70% and haven't failed yet (I'm at stage 7). The risk is pretty big, but there's no rush or anything unless you're in a Solmiki group or something.
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>>164907235
Worked fine for me so far
Enjoy being a bitch
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What colors gems are good for a venier?
>>
>>164907608
yellow green or red
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>>164907663
Well at least I know not to pick blue. Is one better than the other?
>>
>>164907801
I think yellows are best. Iuse green myself since I can never get enough crit rate
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What's the most efficient Alch3 build if IMC ever plans on making homunculus good? Wiz3 or Pyro? Mostly for SP potions though.
>>
>>164906805
You're either adding a zero or blessed shards are retardedly expensive on your server.
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Hello, I'm here for the Solmiki interview.
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FUTUREPOOP WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

YOU COULD'VE WON IF EVERYONE JUST BACKED OFF, YOU HAD TOWER DAMAGE LEAD
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Great match
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>>164910509
no they didn't

they had no choice but to try for a last minute kill
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>>164910841
okay kiddo
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>>164911131
look at the screenshot? it's right above my post

CnL guild tower was at 96%
FP was at 95%
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>>164911180
You should have watched the fukcing game. FP had 46 kill and CnL 45, they just needed to stop attacking.
>>
>>164911279
are you legitimately retarded? FP had a total of 45 kills, they never had 46 kills lmao

FP had the kill advantage for a few seconds, but once they lost it they had no choice but to go in and try and get a kill
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>>164911570
>FP had the kill advantage for a few seconds
That's what I meant. FP had 1 more kills at some point. And it wasn't for a few seconds. They just needed to back off.
>>
>>164911570
It said we had 46 for a second but it went back down so I think it was a display bug.
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>>164911747
it was literally for a few seconds, because cats was in base and died to make the game even, and then afterwards triela died as the last kill that gave CnL the win
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