/fog/ Fallout General

>>164733695
nv modding question

why arent my sex mods working

pls help

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when will fallout 4 have sex mods?
Never right?
I I never need to play this again.
thats great.

I'm still pissed about the lack of post-release content we got. Didn't even get an expansion of the power armor/weapon crafting...

>>164733905

>You will never hop in your power armor and rape a deathclaw with your spiked robodick.

Why even live?

>>164733905
It already has like two really nigger rigged sex mods.

As for actual sex mods, give it another year, assuming F4SE works out well enough.

>>164732916
As far as I can figure out it was to get FEV test subjects. Which was then where the mutants were coming from.
>started writing mutagen instead of FEV
Yeah I'm tired

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Science!

>>164734817
It looked like it was going to be a perfect loop at first. I'm impressed but also disappointed.

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halfway there lads

now to breach into the institute

>>164735393
That's an ugly ass base.

>>164734173
The content we did get was largely shit too. Seriously there are mods with more content than the DLCs.

>>164735872
I really don't get why they were so quick to bail. The nature of the game with its crafting and building should make it a cash cow that allows Bethesda to just keep churning out new wallpaper and shit. Think the Sims.

>>164734548
0 regrets nuking the fuck out of them. All of the madness of the Big Mountain group with none of the over the top hilarity or Dala's oh so fuckable voice.

It is fascinating to read about the plans they had for Van Beuren and how they were jury rigged into New Vegas.

Ceasers Legion was a minor slaving band and Hoover Dam was a major settlement in and of itself.

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Hey, look who it is.
Jesus Christ, those Godrays. Why do I keep them on.

>>164736486
It's funny that after selling the IP to Bethesda and then joining Obsidian they still made an objectively better fallout game, even with the ridiculous time constraints.

I'd like to see Obsidian get another shot.

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>>164737250
>I'd like to see Obsidian get another shot

>>164719521

God damn what a chilling reminder of how shit the stock gameplay is. Just god, that everything. The fatman being little more than a wet fart, drugs powerful enough to keep you intact as 50 new orifices are fucked into you by deathclaws, how ungodly bad the level scaling explodes hitpoints for you and everything else.

the mini gun though, eh, kind of meme tier, but i guess kind of fits the stock gameplay. Just chamber a normal minigun in .308 and let it deal hunting rifle damage is all you need to do to fix it.

>>164738621
>level scaling

This shit kills me. You know what I love about being level 50 and having some really nice modded guns? That it does the exact same fucking damage to some random raider I'm shooting that it did when I was level 10.

The vanilla gameplay is trash.

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Now that the radioactive dust has settled, would you have liked moonbase enclave?

>>164739543
What mods are you using to combat level scaling?

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did everyone just abandon fallout 4? that's the impression im getting between this dead general and the lack of mods compared to skyrim in its prime, and ive noticed an influx of new mods on the new vegas nexus

what's going on?

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>>164740608
Things aren't going well

>>164740608
A few things.
1. Fallout was never as popular as TES, much less in staying power
2. Fo4 is just over a year old and the CK hasn't been out for a year yet
3. Bethesda already did pretty much all of the big mods from 3 / NV in the base game, so there's nothing to work on
4. F4SE is still a steaming pile so the people who do want to do shit are probably just sitting on their hands and doing nothing while they wait for it to be less awful
5. Skyrim got a remaster which brought more attention back to it.
6. Fo4, in general, has had mixed reviews. Plus Bethesda seems to have wanted to get away from the game ASAP to work on whatever the fuck their mystery project is.

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>>164740272
considering I was one of the most vocal proponents, yes


it also would have been fine if it was shit because it would have followed with the tradition of the last dlc being shit

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>>164741662
>there's nothing to work on
I can show you a mod that would guarantee you the file of the month win and at least 500k downloads in first 2 weeks.

>>164742238
I was using hyperbole, but yeah that's one thing that would probably do well.

>>164742238
>Readius
0/10 fucking disgusting would use Pip-Bot 2.5 again

l'il Pip 3k would be better, tho

>>164742543
The mod is just an example for any other mod that would remove this ugly abomination from your arm and turn it into a handheld device or even a cybernetic implant with the holographic overlay of the PA replacing the regular screen.

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>>164740272
would finally explain Vault-Tec and their sadism, but would also make aliens and Mothership Zeta canon

and nobody wants that

>>164742729
>but would also make aliens and Mothership Zeta canon
but they are


fuck I just found the downed saucer in 1

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>>164742840
no they werent. theres a reason that downed saucer is a random encounter, and aliens show up with Wild Wasteland: its just for shits and giggles

at least, they werent canon, until Bethesda's fanfiction.net-tier """sequel"""

what repair do I need to fix the power armor in fallout 1?


I got the part from that asshole but I don't have high enough repair

>>164742729
Aliens are already canon, along with psychic powers.

>>164742238
why the fuck can't bethesda let go of their ugly box glove? Nobody wants it, everybody mods it out.

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>>164743941
only 1. thats right, with 1 Repair you can fix power armor.
just save, then spam the Repair skill on it. if it works, great. if not, load the save and try again

>>164744479
see >>164743107
aliens were always Wild Wasteland esque shit, in random encounters. they were never to be taken seriously

psychics are fine

>>164745386
what an awful image

>>164745310
1.9k hours of NV playtime and I have never removed it and I prefer it to handhelds

different strokes

>>164742658
>or even a cybernetic implant with the holographic overlay of the PA replacing the regular screen.
even though >>164745638 is me, this is a great idea, it's not one I'd use, but a good idea nonetheless

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>>164745386
>marcus
>overalls guy (vic?)'s face
>that robodog
>chosen one's "can you belive this?" face
>pip boy 3000

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>>164745310
i like it but exclusively use the Pimp-Boy 3 Billion

>>164745527
>>164745836
i dunno, i like it
besides, /cfog/ type fanart is rare, atleast in my experience

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>>164716916
That IS the Chinese Stealth Suit. The modmaker gave it some customer layered armor as well.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/20959/?

>>164746059
why do the chinese have sci-fi ninjas anyway
I thought they hated japan

>>164746325
because the chinese are the best at ripping everyone else off

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>reinstalling NV
>again

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>>164747826
so you should, you've barely played the game yet

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>>164747826
casual

>>164747981
shit, now im the casual

>>164747981
>>164748027
You guys are nerds.

>>164747981
>>164748027
how can you play the game so much? After 100 hours on pirated and 100 hours on steam version I pretty much burned out.

I really want to replay but then I remember the gay ass primm-nipton route and that instantly turns me off again.

>>164733905
VR support is cumming

So, after that

>>164748106
You gotta do weird shit like restrict yourself to fists only and no moving without crouching to make the game interesting past a certain point. That and copious amounts of lore breaking game altering mods.

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>>164748232
>restricting yourself to fists only and no moving without crouching

how is that fun

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>>164748074
>implying thats a bad thing

>>164748106
>a shitton of mods that give me 150+ hours per playthrough
>different, unconventional roleplays (last one was a neutral evil Enclave remnant, House ending)
>Roleplayers Alt Start so i dont start in purgatory (Goodsprings)
>a year or so between playthroughs

>>164748296
Are you casul?

How do I make a mod that changes every enemy in the game into Ulysses's model' with a grenade rifle?

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the best bit is I only have 32 hours on FO4

>>164748232
>lore breaking mods
fucking d i s g u s t i n g

literally in my entire 1803 hours I've never installed a mod added worldspace or any quest mods beyond Trainwiz's NV Railroads when he put the beta in chat. Most of my playtime comes from permadeath runs, but I've never done dumb shit like only crouching or any nonsense like that

>>164748106
>set railroaded route
[pic]

>>164748074
no shit

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>>164748483
>he has 32 hours on F04

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>>164748573
I was wrong, sorry. Though this includes my roommate's playtime, too

I'm more excited for TTW 3.0 than I am FO5

>>164748667
my roomie never played New Vegas on my PC, though, so that insane number is all down to my own autism, sadly

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>>164748667
>he owns FO4

>>164748775
I'm sorry, senpai

I caved when it was £40 for the whole pack sale-before-last, mostly because it bugged me having all the other FOs in my Steam list

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>>164748573
>>164748775
settlements and crafting satisfy me

i pre-ordered and got the season pass too
but i regret that immensely

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>>164749147

>>164749147
that's gross

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrQs9ugQiOA

>3 hour runtime
hooo-boy

>>164749223
>>164749314
i really dont know why, but i just love making a nice cozy home at Red Rocket

>>164749815
eh. I was mostly kidding. I really don't like FO4 (beyond some of the assets it's added model/texture-wise), but fuck it, if you like building dank waster retreats and settlements, then you're sorted, ain't ya

>>164749798
I skimmed through the vid and all I could hear was some smelly neckbeard having a rant

I know FO4 is bad already

>>164749883
oh yeah, i fucking hate Fallout 4 and what it stands for, but i have a weird, possible addiction to the settlement building

art style is one of the few things Bethesda is good at

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>>164750127
>he likes the art style in FO4

Was there a mod that allows you to ally with the BoS with House? I remember it being something that was taken out, but was it ever put back?

>>164750441
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37729/?

>>164750197
I admit, it's way too vibrant, but c'mon, the buildings/vehicles actually look retro-sci-fi as opposed to just like buildings/cars ala NV

>>164750713
The FO3/NV art style is literally perfect.

>>164750795
you're baiting me or you're out of your fucking mind, anon

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>>164750854
You like FO4.

>>164750939
I really wish I could stop posting whilst I'm high so I didn't get sucked into this shit, but it's the best time to post

I really don't. I like its pre-war building designs, vehicles (inc. vertibirds ala blackhawks, though obviously not their pre-war inclusion) and power armors

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>>164751181
>likes FO4
>mentally damaged drug addict
It adds up.

>>164750441
there is, but why you would feel okay using it is beyond me

it wasn't like some content which was unfinished or cut because "consoles", it was cut for a real reason and that was to showcase how cold and one track minded House is in regards to his scheme and because the House option is too viable without any consequence potentially deemed a negative

>>164751276
the only thing I'm addicted to is getting baited into debates on fog

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>tfw when you make a character and realise much later on they look like an already pre-existing NPC

I've just made Asian synth Curie.

>>164751570
why hello, azn curie, what ugly landscape and flora textures you have

>>164751908
Those are the default textures, anon. I don't bother with fluff mods like that. If it's not weapons, armor or game mechanic changers it's not in my game.

>>164751945
it's not even .esp, tho

it's there "there"

>>164751989
It's not stuff that directly affects the game = Not worth the download.

>>164749971
50 minutes in and, while a lot of it is very nitpicky, i have yet to hear something i disagree with.

Can anyone give me a link for a cracked FO:NV ultimate edition? preferably on MEGA

>>164754181
PM'd you the link :)

>>164754216
thanks buddy

can anyone post one here? thanks in advance

>>164751570
how was she not put into a concentration camp during the war?

>>164754604
Something something military husband gave her leeway.

Why da fuck didn't the opening cinematic have the husband wear power armor in the army? Or was that Danse looking motherfucker supposed to be him? Would make a lot more sense as to why you can wear it right off the bat.

Would make picking the women even more pointless tho.

>>164754980
Power armor has always been described as being brain dead easy to operate. Fallout 3 is what introduced training to use it.

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>>164754604
>>164754772
oh shit, that reminds me: pre-war was fucking awful. i'd say its worse than post-war

>>164754980
because that would require effort, something Bethesda doesnt give

>>164755062
I know but it would explain why the SS can modify it so easily.

Is it worth playing through Borken Steel?

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I wanted to play a sexy cowboy lady but the skin is fucked up and the butt is black. Is that a real requirement, or is this guy just stupid? The link is dead either way.

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>>164755478

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>>164755478
Yes. but only if its F3 with bork dogs instead of the Brotherhood

>>164755715
>T6M
porn exists yknow
so does Veronica

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I can't be the only one that thinks a pre-war Fallout Game would be cool as fuck. Maybe play as an US soldier in occupied china or play some more of operation anchorage.

Game obviously ends when the bombs fall.

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>>164755816
The pastebin said it was best. I just need larger breasts so I can play a real American cowboy.

>>164755847
So was the Soviet Union just sitting around with its thumb up its ass or something? We only ever hear of the chinks.

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>>164755847
neat idea, but it wouldnt be Fallout
>no mutants
>no vaults
>no Brotherhood, NCR, Enclave, or any other faction
>no Legionary Assassins
>no cazadores
>too many SMMOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTHHHHSSKKKKKKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSS
>no glorious ghoul masterrace

>>164755917
welp, i know what im jerking off to tonight, thanks anon

So is the wiki out of date, or can you really not ballistic weave the Marine wetsuit?

>>164756691
Whole buncha shit you can't ballistic weave that you should be able to. Thats why you should get one of a handful of mods that lets you weave almost anything. And change it from being locked behind choosing worst faction to get it.

>>164757626
Honestly this is the first time I've actually played 4 with the intention of finishing it so Im going modless

its really not a big deal though. Army/military fatigues will be fine and zealot marine/heavy combat already have excellent defense if I cant bring myself to lose the wetsuit or decide to take Brandis' unique BoS uniform

>>164757880
*Inquisitor marine I meant

>>164740608
It's a pretty mediocre game.

>>164756691
General rule of thumb (granted it doesn't apply to everything) is if the suit can be worn with armor on top of it, it cannot be ballistic weaved.

>>164759379
funny that the two best clothing layer options imo, army and military fatigues, can be weaved then

Anyone on /fog/ have a favorite gun mod? I'm really loving the DSK-501 rifle

>>164760723
Varmint Rifle

>>164760723
Remington 1858 New Model Army, so i can make my weaponfu Sweet Revenge

>>164755847
I've always wondered about the international politics of pre-War Fallout. In the 40s-60s IRL, Europe still had colonies, and this was often reflected on the pulp fiction of the time that Fallout takes its inspiration from. What about places like South Africa and Rhodesia? Do they survive and keep their attitudes into the 2070s?

>>164746059
Well that's why I couldn't find it. Even copy and pasting the title of it, "Chinese Stealth Suit" doesn't return any results. "Chinese" gets a bunch of Chinese Assault Rifle mods, Stealth Suit only gets you one file that's old.

What the fuck Nexus?

Thanks Anon.

>>164761628
we can speculate all we want, but really, Fallout is and always will focus on America. we probably wont find out about this, unless we get some kind of Fallout Bible II Special Edition

is it acceptable to use XRE Cars with Dust in new vegas

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>>164763991
>XRE Cars
>with DUST
>cars
>in a place that combines the worst parts of the Divide and the Sierra Madre
what do you think?

>>164760723
The M1 Garand

I finished Automatron DLC.

How should I build Ada now that I don't need to her to lug stuff through Rust Devil dungeons?

Make her a true Assaultron like most of her already was? Jack her up as a Sentry bot with missiles and miniguns so she never has to feel powerless? Scrap her down to a Protectatron so she doesn't have to worry about fighting anymore?

>>164767860
give her a maid outfit and have her do housekeeping in your settlement

>>164767860
full Assaultron, she becomes a beast

and make sure to keep her the light blue color

Ada best girl, Curie close second

>>164767860
>still no option for Gen 1 and 2 synth parts in the automatron work bench
C'mon

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>>164767860

>>164768280
Nope Curie is best girl. The accent alone is enough to make me cum buckets.

Anybody make a robot you can ride on yet? Some sentrybot legs or some hovering mr handy shit or something?

>>164768550
Your opinion isn't fact

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Are there any good muscle textures or presets or extended sliders available for CBBE?

I'm sort of annoyed by the fact that every time I try to make a big bulky dame for this game she looks less like weightlifter and more like someone that just eats at McDonald's every day but has a majority of the weight go to their tits, ass, and thighs rather than her gut.

I mean I like big soft women as much as the next guy but I've been trying to roll with something that looks sensible for being on maximum muscle slider (a She-Grognak to go with the axe and outfit) and it's... not happening with what I've found that's available.

Please, if you guys can help I'd love to know if there's any way to get the way-too-subtle muscle sliders that ARE available for CBBE to look more convincing.

>>164740608
The driving force behind TES mods was the ability to get lewd, but F4 people still can't mod animations, make HDT or any shit like that, so the crowd is much smaller. Plus the game is even more mediocre than Skyrim which doesn't help.

>>164770147
2pac sliders

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Wow this really is ded.

>>164773636
I blame Beth and their crappy and overpriced DLC content

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>>164773636
>bad game with a fractured fanbase since day 2 that was essentially dead for 10 years doesn't have the same modding community of an older franchise with a much less divided fanbase and wasn't dead for a decade

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I have over 500 hours in this game and this is the first time I've found this place. Settlement suggestions?

What are the best stats for a new player in Fallout 4? I've never played a fallout game before.

>>164774190
>I've never played a fallout game before.
don't start with 4

3 or NV but not 4

>>164773636
>Bethesda want you to build the game for them

r u surprise?

>>164773636
>wildly toxic community that would rather bitch and moan and argue over beth vs obsidian than just enjoy what they have
>autistic modding community more concerned with lewd mods instead of anything worthwhile
>game series that is rather good but has mediocre replay value at best

shits terminal, Im surprised its lasted this long

>>164774276
Too late senpai, already have FO4 and I'm not gonna go out and buy the others if i don't even know if I'll like it yet.

>>164773210
As far as I know he never did any of the DLC outfits and provides even less support for new outfits than Atomic of JaneBod.

IE none.

What happened /cfog/?

>>164774696
dead


told those faggots they couldn't keep a general alive when they only discussed one game(NV)

they called themselves 'classic fallout general' but 99% of the posts were about NV and half of those were 'howdy' bumps

they came back here or fucked off back to /v/

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>>164774414

The community tends to make me need to shower after dealing with it.

>>164774101
Are you going for something realistic or what?

>>164774440
The reason he says that is because FO4 is probably the most distant from the Fallout series as far as gameplay goes. FO1 and 2 being isometric and turn-based RPGs, FO3 and FNV being first-person and shooter RPGs, and then FO4 being an evolution of FO3 and FNV, but at the cost of a lot of the RPG and roleplaying aspects. It'll probably feel the best, but that's subjective.

Just read over the SPECIAL and get an understanding of what you want. You can either go the roleplaying route and try to get stats that make sense for your character, or just play it like a game. Canonically, Nate is a pre-war soldier and Nora is a lawyer, if you want to be lazy about your character's role.

>>164774864
Ohhh :(
I liked it while it lasted

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>>164774414
the modding community has turned me into some kind of weird misogynist that hates playing as women in games

>>164775098
Should I play on max difficulty?

is there any good perk overhaul mods yet? I feel like perks were the worst aspect of character building

>>164775428
Arguable. Imagine if Normal difficulty is 1.0x damage to you, 1.0x damage to the enemy. Very Hard, iirc, is something like 2.0x damage to you, 0.5x damage to the enemy.

Survival is a little bit different and adds in various mechanics you have to be aware of, like hunger, thirst, and sleep (though the rates at which they accumulate are too fast, imo).

The game overall kind of suffers from bullet sponginess in the later levels, so maybe try Normal or Hard first, then increase it to Very Hard if you want shootouts to last a bit longer. I went with Very Hard/Survival originally in my first playthrough (before Survival got those mechanic additions).

>>164775428
Survival, while having its drawbacks, is rather fun. That being said the higher the difficulty the more likely you are to have legendary spawns

>>164774593
True, but you can just use Outfit studio to make em fit anyway.

>>164750441
"I liked FONV's ending much better. It had a nice set of slides at the end of the game. They covered everything I was wondering about. I went with Mr. House at the end... and that seemed a worse choice after the slides, but still OK. It led to a law-abiding but somewhat impersonal Vegas. I wish I didn't have to kill the BoS, but I want House to control the future, so I had to do it. It was a great morally ambiguous choice, and the decision made me pause. That's a sign of good design, right there." - Tim Cain

what are you doing, senpai

>>164774440
In what ways is it toxic? I only interact on 4chan so my views of what is an isn't are somewhat warped.

>>164776230
meant for >>164774414

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a S H e S

>>164776403
All the dialogue for Bethesda games is recorded in a very short space of time. The voice actors probably have next to no context for the lines they're reading.

Why do icons on the compass sometimes seem to indicate something invisible? Does that mean its underground or something?

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/20926/?
To those asking for something unique for FO4.

>>164774101
What's that? The marina with the schizoid grandma?

>>164777590
Yea. I blasted her away with my superbarrel.

>>164776654
>next to no context
Pretty sure Danse's VA part way through recording was like "hey, this is a Fallout game!" as in they didn't even tell him that. Direction notes also seem sparse.

So why is a gunner private stronger than a regular gunner?

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>>164776403
>go into Vault 88
>get let into the vault
>figure i better stock up first just in case
>leave for diamond city
>on the way back find a cat
>GO HOME ASHES ERIN MISSES YOU
>mfw who the fuck is erin and how do i know this cat is named ashes

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>>164778605
because I T J U S T W O R K S

>>164778707
As you can see in that pic I had a broken arm and fractured skull, the last thing I cared about as some damn cat.

>>164778813
s-sauce?

>>164778813
sorce

>>164778963
its an edit of a /v/idya artwork, doesnt have a sauce

sorry man

>>164779126
What was the original artwork?

>>164778125
RIP

>>164779297
dont have it, sorry

>>164776353
4chan by definition is toxic and honestly when was the last time the general populace of gamers wasnt a vitriolic puddle of shit really?

>gaming industry going to shit in general due to nickle and dime practices, hype machine pr, reneging on said promises, and then delivering half finished games
>community falls for the hype, encourages nickle and dime practices by FUCKING CONTINUING TO PAY FOR SHIT, and then throws shit fits all over the internet when they didnt get what they wanted

Honestly its understandable that, in general the gaming community is being deep dicked hard fuck, and that they would be pissed about it, but throwing hissy fits after you already gave them your money doesnt accomplish anything

Now, that aside, you have places like /fog/. I cant speak for reddit shit because I dont visit, but when you have a board that is specifically in place because a large enough number of people wish to contribute or discuss the game you would think it would be fairly lively place yeh?

Instead we have the polar opposite. Thread regularly dies halfway to the post limit, survives long enough to hit the limit but it took 3 fucking days to get there, and in general is nothing but sporadic shill wars and shit flinging that livens up the thread for all of a half hour and then its quiet for another 3. Not only are fuck idiot arguments seemingly a large portion of posts but it also adds nothing of any fucking value

so yeh. Seems pretty fucking toxic to me

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>>164778707
>haven't even gone down the elevator yet
>see cat running out of vault
>follow it because why not
>"Go home Ashes, Erin misses you."
>literally who
>literally what

>>164781549
Bethesfags need to know their game is shit and they should kill themselves. They must be constantly reminded.

How do I pull off one of those radiation memebuilds where you can get 40 Strength and be practically immune to radiation?

>>164778707
That's the cat that escaped from vault 81, a girl asks you to find it

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>>164776403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX5gOTMsSag
>this voice acting

>>164782061
This desu

The fact that people here have 100+ hours in fallout 4 is disgusting. /fog/ deserves to die for that reason alone.

>>164783187
What emotion was he trying to convey? I honestly have no idea.

>>>164783390
>Fallout 4
>Has best power armor mechanics
>Has best gunplay

I'm gonna keep playing it.

>>164783609
>fallout is about the gunplay and power armor

>>164783609
why not play Titanfall if thats what your looking for?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovDSvyS8WgQ
Your thoughts?

>>164783727
I like power armor.

The PA in 3/New Vegas sucks ass.

>>164783390
>The fact that people here have 100+ hours in fallout 4 is disgusting. /fog/ deserves to die for that reason alone.
Except that's probably the only reason this general is still alive. I just cracked 135 yesterday

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http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Protectron_%28Fallout_3%29
>"We're.. all.. going.. to.. die!"
>"Oh.. My.. God!"

>>164778605
>let's just add some affixes and HPs
>infinite bestiary/enemies!
>woah look this chameleon lizard is so SO different
And people will defend this because electrolyte.

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>>164783390
lol you're gay

>>164783390
New vegas bored me to death. I pre ordered both new vegas and fallout 4 and don't regret 4 but I do regret new vegas. I couldn't even get 10 hours on new vegas, it's just so horribly boring. Empty desert worlds are always the worst settings.

>>164783727
>>164783754
Fallout 3 onwards is an FPS to be fair. Good gunplay is important. You can bitch all you want about story or whatever but there's a reason this general is fallout 4 mostly, and not fallout new vegas or classic fallout. There's no real reason to replay those older games, hell even playing them once is hard enough with the gameplay. At least for me personally, fallout 4 is the most replayable and enjoyable from a gameplay perspective.

>>164784997
You must be 18 years or older to post

>>164784501
I don't think anyone ever claimed that there would be infinite beasties.

Also don't post this bullshit like it's fucking Bethesda's idea. This shit goes back to at least the beginning of tabletop RPGs at the very least.

>>164784997
This isn't even bait, this is the power of brainwashing.
Though it only works on retard.

>>164785208
Found the obsidianbabby.

You're the minority here. Fallout 4 is the reason people visit. Place would be long gone without it.

>>164784619
This guy gets it.

>Fallout 1
>Centaur
>Lesser Centaur
>Greater Centaur
>Mean Centaur

>Rat
>Cave Rat
>Tough Rat
>Radiated Rat
>Mutated Rat

>Radscorpion
>Lesser Radscorpion
>Nasty Radscorpion
>Black Radscorpion
>Lesser Black Radscorpion

>Gecko
>Golden Gecko
>Fire Gecko
>Green Gecko

>Only actual non-stat difference is that fire geckos breathe fire
It's funny you say "chameleon" because the Chameleon Deathclaw is one of the few that actually have some sort of actual difference.

>>164785463
This. Though there is a difference between "rat/cave rat" and "rat/stronger rat".

>>164784501
What irks me more is that it doesn't make any sense. Aren't regular gunners privates? If not, what are they? Is 90% of the faction just recruits?

>>164785463
And? Reason more. They just can't do anything right.
Fuck off shill.

>>164785567
>Fallout 4 is the reason people visit. Place would be long gone without it

You say this like its a good thing.

>>164785637
Was replying to
>>164784501

>>164785659
Considering that they've attempted to recruit raiders (with minimal success with integrating them) it doesn't seem too far off. They are mercs after all.

>>164785659
>doesn't make sense
>is lazy
You can't be sure with Bethesdoh

>>164785781
I'm just saying what's true. The game really isn't as bad as some people like to pretend it is.

>>164785934
As just a game it is mediocre as a Fallout game its utter garbage. Like if someone made a fancy Minecraft mod or something

>>164785637
>>164785836
This is hilarious how can you be this idiotic.

>>164786048
>ugh this game is so mediocre
>let me just spend 60 horus playing it

ok

>>164785740
What I'm saying is that if yer gonna blame bethesda for something, at least blame them for shit that is actually their fault and not part of the backbone of the entire RPG genre.

>>164786174
I can't account for your shit taste.

>>164786319
>Fallout 4 is an RPG

>help institute
>curie dislikes that
>any other endings are nuke the institute
???

>>164786362
That's the average bad steam review for the game. All those people hating it, yet have shit tons of hours in it.

I guarantee it's the same here. All these people hating on it, probably have played it a fair amount too. You don't play a game for endless amounts if you don't like it.

>>164786103
>Gets proven wrong
>Calls other person an idiot without any actual comeback
Are you that anon from last night who insisted that 4 explained how the kid in the fridge survived and that it didn't contradict the fact an ending in the very first game made a point of ghouls dying without water without actually saying where they did that, or just his retarded brother?
>lol infinite bestiary, SO different, bethesda am I right?
>"Here's where literally every game that came before it is also guilty of the exact same thing."
>lol you're dumb
I'm not even trying to defend anything.

>>164786506
>Fo4 isn't an RPG
It's fine to not like the shift in the mechanics and storytelling but continuing to spread this retarded meme is stupid.

>>164786859
>"Fallout 4 is an RPG"
>Not spreading memes

>>164786859
Fallout 4 isn't an RPG in the same sense that the previous games were. Of course it's stupid to claim it isn't an RPG at all, unless you're being consistent and claiming that the Final Fantasy series is also not an RPG just because you have a set character and set story.

I guess generic gunners could just be gunner lance corporals or specialists. Aren't those the most common ranks in the military?

>>164787087
This. Fo4 is more of a very generous interpretation of that into a sort of Minecraft/FPS hybrid.
Not to say that's a good thing, mind.

>>164786859
>storytelling

Where?

>>164786696
You just missed the point and started defending Bethesda, you brainwashed idiot.
What you don't understand is, I am not arguing with you, I was just answering anon about enemies affixes done wrong, see private gunners.
So, I repeat myself.
Fuck off.

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>>164783390
Fallout 4 with Silent Protag, Alternate Start and New Dialogue is better than Fallout 3 and New Vegas combined.

You can't prove me wrong.

Bethesda actually did something pretty neat with Ingram, the Brotherhood mechanic who is missing her legs from the knee down but gets around in a power armor frame.

>>164787356
>opinion
>can't prove me wrong
You say it almost as if you're making a valid point here, anon.

>>164787480
Only insofar as you are willing to buy into the existence of PA frames. They pretty much just give the finger to most all of our established lore regarding PA.
Kind of like the T-60, actually.

>>164787103
The problem is then that the "Privates" are stronger than them, while "Private" is the lowest rank. For that to make sense, the generic ones would have to not even be part of the hierarchy.

>>164787281
>A shit story means it isn't even a story

>>164787330
>So I repeat myself:
>Fuck off
So how are you repeating yourself when you never said that in the first place? Even if you're not referring to saying "fuck off", you didn't say any of that.

And I certainly wasn't defending them, I was saying you were shitting on them for something that Obsidian is guilty of, too.

>>164787356
Does Alternate Start radically change the main story-line or get rid of it entirely? If it is either of those two options I'd at least concede that it is better than Fallout 4.

>>164787356
>Silent Protag, Alternate Start and New Dialogue

Literally none of them make the characters or story even remotely interesting you retarded shill.

>>164787664
They are powered by motto.

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>>164787710
It gets rid of every reference to you being a parent. Haven't gotten far in my playthrough with it but even though Codsworth brings up Shaun, your options are to play along or say you don't know what he's talking about and he's clearly malfunctioning. You still have to do the main quest to continue, but altering that big of a chunk of the game is a bigger task than swapping out lines of dialogue throughout the entire game.

>>164788010
Wait, shit, misread and thought you guys were talking about the ACTUAL good alt start mod that ACTUALLY changes dialogue and some quests.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18946/?

The other ones don't touch the quests or dialogue at all, so no matter what yo choose, you're going to be Shaun's parent from Vault 111 and have a dead spouse.

>>164787664
>So how are you repeating yourself when you never said that in the first place?
I don't ask you the question if you are retarded.
But yes I did.
>>164785740
>muh it's not me
I don't give a shit, shill, you are all the same.

>>164787202
The minecraft influence in the game is overblown, calling the game such a title is just false.

Fo4 is an Action-rpg with the action, at least the fps elements, getting significantly better and the RPG stuff (at least the levels and shits) getting reworked into a new system that is a sidegrade at worst Yes the plot was awful and yes the voice protag and 4 dialogue options were also awful, but at least the game did far less of the whole "dump exposition on you by having NPCs act like walking encyclopedias "

Fallout 4 is shit. Todd knows it.

>>164748775
>tfw you just spend countless hours building shitty settlements
What can I say? It just works.

>>164788214
Making perks do what stats always did gimps character progression. Instead of spending points to be better with your weapons and then choosing an interesting perk that could allow you to eat people for substance you have to always invest in a perk that upgrades one of the weapon skills, leading to characters that are more or less the same in the end.

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>>164787757
>>164787710
Please tell me how F3 and New Vegas had a better main story than F4? F3 was ultra retarded till broken steel somewhat fixed it and New Vegas was just eh depending on the faction you went with.

I swear you nostalgiafags are the worst.

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I enjoy both new vegas and fallout 4

>>164788653
fagit

>>164788634
Because they actually gave you a reason not to rush through the main quest and enjoy the game.

>>164788158
Gonna give it a whirl, looks really interesting. Thanks anon

>>164788481
Stats never did enough before and Skills suffered from individual points mattering very little and some skills even having points matter fuckall unless it hit a milestone.

4's system at least killed points feeling meaningless with some skills and you still got some of the flavor perks. Furthermore shit like Science doesn't make you good at too wide of a set of things, so you can now play a character who can hack but can also not mod a laser rifle to save his life.

Could bethesda have done a lot more with the perk system like adding trees to the weapon skills to split between the ammo types or something else along those lines? Absolutely. Could they have organized the tier lists better and not have perks feel gimpy? Again absolutely, but that's also a problem every RPG ever faces. However I would always take the new system and have less levels feeling like I'm achieving fuckall with my level-up than the old system, where many levels do feel like I didn't achieve shit.

>>164788835
But I didn't rush through 4?

>>164788634
Eh they each have their problems but really the boil down to the same thing. They're fun sandbox games if you enjoy dystopian futures.

should i try to play fo4 again or write about my ss's adventures

>>164788158
That is a very cool mod.

>>164788835
It's an enduring feature of 4 that the PC gets sidetracked to fuck and back, Todd even referenced it as a problem in terms of the flow of the plot was concerned.

>>164789619
The problem is that the way the quests are written it makes little sense to do them late game.

It's hilarious to complete the main story then show up to covenant and be like "what's a synth :^)"

>>164787623
While it sucks they butchered the lore, the things they do with it /kind/ of makes up for it.

Wait why is there no steam workshop for FO4? Do I just do it all manually from nexus?

>>164789905
>Wait why is there no steam workshop for FO4?

Because they were pushing bethesda.net at the time and wanted people to mod through that.

>>164789905
Yes. Or if that's too difficult use NMM or MO2

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Is this worth the download?

>>164789214
Skill (not stats, got those mixed up) are meant to define your character general characteristics. They make your guns shoot better and your chems last longer.

Perks are meant to further refine your character into the guy you want to play. For instance, if you want to be a sniper take the perk which makes long range headshots in VATs more accurate. If you want to use a shotgun, get the perk which gives shotguns special mechanics. Characters end up being more defined and unique allowing for more replayability.

In Fallout 4 a sniper and a shot-gunner are both going to have very similar builds because the perks which effect those two very different weapons are the same. This leads to less reasons to replay the game. The lack of level cap leave essentially none.

>>164789976
lol inb4 it shuts down in a year or some fuck and everyone's out of luck.
No way I'm singing up for that shit.

>>164789273
Depends, how interesting is your ss' adventures? Relatively speaking. I mean if yer gonna write you might as well go beyond the game and current modding scene itself for your adventure writing

Or just write some fetish porn. It's what i"ve been thinking of doing.
>>164789774
Bethesda has always had a massive problem with connecting different plots together and having the game remember shit the player did.

Hell if they even fixed that shit and just made a game with a shitton of side quests and beefed up the radiant quest system like Todd said they could do in one interview so that it could track fucking everything and made enough variations on shit you could do, I'd play the fucking game even if it didn't have a fucking main quest.

>>164790053
Yes.

I got it last week myself. The full 6gb package and it's very, very well made. Really makes the world feel more 'real', if you like that kind of thing.

>>164789862
IMO they straight up make up for it, power armour is fantastic when turned into a vehicle like it is in 4.

I love the way the frames were dispersed, I only wish the versions weren't based on your characters level

>>164787623
How are frames a deviation from the lore? I've never seen them mentioned, but I don't think it outright contradicts anything.

>>164790121
it was mostly going to be set in fo4 but not be based on anything ive done in-game
there was going to be smut in it anyway

>>164790117
Just use nexus mod manager. I've never even been on the bethnet site personally.

>>164789774
>Fuck around a hell of a lot while the main quest is in the, "Go rescue Nick" part
>Finally get the Brotherhood into the Commonwealth, join them
>Quarter master asks you to "persuade" (Someone post Gentle Persuasion.jpg) some farmers for a share of their crops

>I'm the General of the Minutemen with a supply network that could solve the real world's world hunger problem

HEH

>>164789976
>>164790117
The Skyrim Remaster doesn't have steam workshop support either. They're really pushing that Bethnet shit, maybe they'll try that paid mods scam again who knows.

>>164790182
Alright will give it a go. Download will take ages though since I don't have nexus premium.

>>164790083
Skills didn't do enough in the last few games either. Bethesda still made progress in making pistols / rifles / automatics different.

Yes bethesda needs to go further with the system, but they've had a half-decent start of it.

Also the lack of level cap is not as big of a pin in the replayability as most problems. Most playthroughs aren't going to get you anywhere near high enough to make your character have all the perks of a character who focused on one thing and willingly stopped at some arbitrary level from further building their character. Soft caps are a thing that people always forget about and it does end up rather close to the hard level caps of the previous games depending on how much you play and how you play.

>>164790202
I feel like the armor is backwards from a game design point though.
Are you supposed to use it while travelling and waste it? Or leave it while looting and become encumbered?
I feel like it should be free until you use "combat mode" our something.

>>164789862
>While it sucks they butchered the lore
There was no butchering and making it into the actual vehicle of destruction it's supposed to be is the best change. Fuck those ugly ass suits in prior iterations, especially 1 and 2 with them being skin tight with chest armor and pauldrons.

>>164788634
The problem is getting the player interested in the start, and railroading. The main plot is 100% shit once you get annoyed by having to tell everyone about your missing baby. And you have to, or else the story can't actually progress. You have to follow a specific series of events to find Kellogg. The game makes you kill him. The game then tries to guilt trip you for doing this. And then as a side note, that whole thing with Kellogg suddenly talking through Nick, and then having that never come up again. I mean there's wasted story potential, and then there's wasted story potential that presents itself as an important cutscene.

Some people can connect to the player character. I've heard of girls getting all maternal instinct-y over seeing "their" baby getting taken. If the game doesn't grab your interest in the first few minutes before exiting the vault and starting the game proper, chances are the main plot is going to be a drag.
>"Ugh I can't access these things until I reach this specific stage in the story."
It's worse if you're starting a new game for whatever reason, as I don't remember any real choices outside of, say, Covenant's quest before you get to the build the teleporter part. Anything else is whether or not you pass a charisma check, and the results don't matter 5 minutes later.

>>164790250
What kind of smut? Cus the world could always use more smut in it, especially if it's actually interesting or at least original.

>>164790549
Anon was probably more talking about the frames themselves. I don't think almost anybody is complaining that PA has gone from being skin-tight to walking tank.

>>164789619
>>164789215
The nature of the main quest (finding a young child you love very much in a hostile wasteland) means that the moment you start going around building settlements and scavenging dinner plates instead of focusing on finding your son you create a gaping disconnect between your character's motivations and his actions that cannot be justified. That is not good storytelling.

>>164790656
a robot, a deathclaw, and a few assorted humans
there may or may not be extreme fetish material

>>164790761
Press (down) to SHAUN!

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>>164789774
>Do Far harbor postgame
>Meet DiMA
>SS: "What are you?"

I'm really worried that the Institute will be canonically destroyed, because I loved the faction and its potential.

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Alright, I'm about to jump back in to New Vegas after 1.5 years of not playing after borking the shit out of the game with too many mods (got a little too enthusiastic with GECK and fucking around with FNV). Has there been anything big in modding that's happened for NV since then? Also is FOOK worth it? I've been debating downloading it again because it was the source of many of my mod conflicts last time around.

>>164790946
Play Who Vegas. It's lots of fun.

>>164790786
What are the sexes of the individuals involved? Cus male human on female robot has been done before and it's boring as shit.

>>164791030
havent really decided yet
ive got both a male and female mc i could use

>>164790943
Yeah nah the canon ending will either be Minutemen or BoS.

If Beth decides to go full retard the canon ending will be Railroad

>>164791184
Shoot one and steal their baby.

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>>164791025
I kind of live under a rock, I'm not familiar at all with anything relating to Doctor Who. I could still give it a go when I'm done with my mod list (which I really do need to trim).

>>164790761
Which is what Todd referenced in his interview.

I really get the feeling that Beth came away from FO4 thinking they fucked up their storytelling and are desperately looking for an alternative. They aren't satisfied with the plot of skyrim or fo4.

I mean, they shouldn't be either, everything is far to open ended for fo4, I would have really liked a "Whoops lets fix our fuck ups" DLC like Broken steel that pushed what happened after the endgame more.

What's so bad about synths? I like the design, and would love to have some of them as minions.

>>164791187
I bet most people's ending was MM/Inst.

>>164791352
its sloppy. It can work but its just a giant sloppy way of closing plot holes.

>>164791280
It's a lot of stuff you won't understand unless you know the show, but it's a lot of content. I just love the way you can fly around with the tardis and appear in random locations.

>>164790761
Sort of like witcher 3 and trying to find ciri before the wild hunt finds her first. Geralt shouldn't be sat around taking witcher contract side quests at a time like that.

Course ciri isn't a little child so I guess it's sort of okay.

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>>164791187
canon is mm+bos

>>164790516
Skills did plenty well enough and had a noticeable effect on your character unless you just spread them out every level in which case yeah, you would only see marginal improvements. You definitely feel a change after investing ten or so points into a skill.

What is also great about skills is that you can easily factor them into conversation skill checks, so someone skilled in medicine can make comments on someones health or injuries. you couldn't do that as well with perks only because they are too specific.

Skills are meant to be the broad strokes that define your character, perks define the specifics. You loose depth if you remove either aspect.

>>164791471
Haven't finished the story, I meant in general.
Everyone seems to hate synths.

Oh man I decided to see if there was any more commentary from beth on FO 4 and saw the CNN russian hacking thing. Idiots.

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Is there a mod that lets me play as a synth? Like pic related

>>164791352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjTzmspX89o&feature=youtu.be&t=19

>>164791552
>What is also great about skills is that you can easily factor them into conversation skill checks
That was one thing i missed from the previous games. You would think Beth would be able to re-work that with the Perk system, but I guess not

>>164791514
Ciri isn't a child and she is far from helpless. And Geralt doesn't really know if she is in immediate danger and medieval life is a lot slower than now. You could easily justify not immediately going off to viking land as Geralt just waiting for a boat.

>>164791552
>>164791698
Eh perks were specific enough to work as skills in Fo4. All one needs to do is actual bother to check for them. Which they only did like 2 times between FH and NW.

So blame the quest designers.

>>164791352
Nothing really, honestly the best hope for humanity.

If you're talking in-game its because people are scared of them malfunctioning and their nearest and dearest being replaced by them because Institute leadership has a "You're not actually anything of value until you're a part of the institute" mindset.

>>164791719
>Justifications and stipulations for me but none for thee
Okay

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>>164791406
No most people either got the Institute or BoS ending.

Nobody liked the Railroad except crazy SJWs maybe.

>>164791515
I dunno man Beth tried their hardest to make the BoS seem "evil" this time. For them the Railroad or Minutemen are the only "good" guys prolly.

Why is my audio so low?
I have it cranked up to double the usual volume and it's still not that good.

>>164790549
>>164790203
I think the problem is that it means that every type of power armor is exactly the same underneath. One of the big lore differences between the armor are how it uses power. With the frames, they all use the exact same power source.

From a gameplay perspective I love the system though, and of course the armor looks a lot better.

>>164790841
>Implying DiMA looks anything like a "normal" synth, or even more than vaguely like Nick

>>164790946
FOOK is shit and tries to do too much at once. YUP for bug fixes, it's even still being updated.

ADAM was picked up and updated within the last year, aMidianBorn's book of steel got a compatibility edition because the original plugins were complete shit, there's a part 3 of New Vegas Bounties, a bunch of older mods are still getting updates, and I can't really rec anything because 90% of my mods are bugfixes and textures.

For weapons I use a combination of WRP, WMX, and EVE though.

The Fear and Loathing guide is good if you use it to pick and choose from, and it's been updated at least for the new 4gb patcher that replaced the launcher version.

>>164791910
>No most people either got the Institute or BoS ending.

Post proofs plz.

>>164791835
no they did not, at all.

i wanted to play a revolver kinda guy, put all my perks for it. got the combat rifle and it was just 200% better than my fully upgraded revolver. because of no skills there were no downsides to using the combat rifle which made it feel as if it didn't fucking matter anyway.

i felt like in fallout 4 you could be everything you wanted, 0 specialization. its annoying af. its not a RPG anymore.

>>164791698
The perks are too specific and there are too many of them. For instance, tt breaks up large categories like guns into pistols, smgs, rifles, and automatics. When you have a speech check where you can use your insight on guns, which one would you check for?

>>164791940
>With the frames, they all use the exact same power source.
>He conflates gameplay and lore
el oh el

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>>164791878
>a literal child
>vs Little Miss Teleports Behind U
>the same

>>164792073
>Specifically used the words "gameplay" and "lore" to refer to different things
>look at that retard calling gameplay and lore the game thing!
What?

>>164792034
>i felt like in fallout 4 you could be everything you wanted

Sounds like a modern rpg to me. Especially a modern Fallout game.

>>164791940
DiMA looks like a modded Gen 2

>>164792028
They're the only 2 big factions with all the cool gear. Do you really need proof that most people went with them?

>>164791698
Oh they easily could have worked it into their new system, but chose to not bother. Their design philosophy was very much typical of this:
>https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1455/19/1455193529522.jpg
i.e. "too confusing" and "nobody cares anyway". Wouldn't want to push the 14 year-old console kiddies playing on mom and dad's dollar away, right?

>>164791910
>I dunno man Beth tried their hardest to make the BoS seem "evil" this time
That just isn't right. The BoS not being cartoonish white knights =\= the BoS is evil now. The BoS in Fo4 is a reasonable hybrid of the west-coast philosophy and east-coast practices, and their portrayal is one of the things that Bethesda did really well this time around. the BoS are the good guys

>>164792002
But there's nothing about it being confusing and everything to do with dialogue being awkward and stilted garbage especially in videogames. Anything to expedite shitty exposition of "you're the chosen one sent to slay the ancient evil" is great.

>>164792156
So Niero explain: Is this part of Trainwiz's make-coursers-betterer mod?

>>164792258
>They're the only 2 big factions with all the cool gear. Do you really need proof that most people went with them?

Yep, because Settlements were more a minutemen thing, people fucking loved settlements, and the castle as minutemen was fucking cool. Thus MM/inst.

>>164792326
>everything to do with dialogue being awkward and stilted garbage especially in videogames
Bethesda literally doesn't care in the slightest. Also I meant
>>164792325
>i.e. "too confusing" and "nobody cares anyway"
sardonically.

>>164792325
I'm pretty sure the whole "too confusing" aspect was just a lie that they kept repeating when they knew they fucked up. Not even 14 years old could get confused by such a system.

>>164792210
no you got it wrong, i could be everything i wanted without repercussions. in an rpg you decide what you want to be and then you are that which you decide to be. you can't go back on this and you are going to be fucked in the ass when you try to go wield a two handed battle axe on your little thief.

its fucking atrocious game design. fallout 4 is just a stupid action exploration game. thats not what fallout is. bethesda just got greedy after they saw that skyrim sold so well because of "muh exploration"

>>164792475
MM/Inst is still institute. unless you really fuck up the Minute Men are your bitch from word go.

>>164792034
The skills system would have done the same fucking thing because revolvers and rifles are both covered by small guns.

Also were you using a revolver that wasn't a pipe weapon?

Also you could specialize, what the actual fuck are you smoking that makes you think that you couldn't? Or that the previous systems somehow magically were any better?

>>164791719
He finds out pretty quick that the wild hunt are killing/torturing anyone who might know anything, destroying entire villages looking for her. Plus he already knows how ruthless the wild hunt are from previous stories and rumors, the fact that the emperor personally called him in because he's worried about her etc

I'd say that he knows shes in immediate danger. It's the same problem here. It's just that you are able to forgive witcher for it because 1) it's a much better game and 2) you kind of expect it to have a heavily set story because it's based of a series of books.

>>164792349
Nope, just been playing lots of Overwatch and wanted to see if I could get Tracer's Recall ability to work in Fallout.

>>164792535
I know what you're saying, but that's pretty much how things are now with AAA rpgs. You're god.

New Vegas made me feel more like a god than 4 desu.

>>164792632
Presuming you're the same person, why the fuck did you disagree with me on >>164791406

>>164792687
And 3) Ciri is the lady of Space and Time or some shit and 4) she has powerful allies.

>>164792686
Yes i was using the .44 at a relatively low level.

maybe but in fnv you couldn't use a minigun and excpect the same efficiency than the brush gun when you had good skill levels in small guns and 0 in big guns.

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>>164792632
>the Minute Men are your bitch from word go
Sure about that?

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>>164791940
Weapons I'm pretty sure what I'm going for, thanks for the rest of the info. Pretty much confirms my original feelings about FOOK. Also how do FCO and FNV Redesigned 2 work together if at all?

>>164792824
I didn't?

>>164792824
>New Vegas made me feel more like a god than 4 desu.
That's because the Courier basically is a god. We had a conversation about this a thread or two ago.

>>164792837
None of which is immediately helpful in her situation and everyone she goes to for help dies after meeting her

But please keep handwaving.

>>164792876
>Have ranks
>You're the General
>But I don't have to take orders from you lol :^)

Why join then you dumb fuck go join some raider gang so I can shoot you.

>>164793079
She is a trained swordsmen with magic powers which as it turns out is actually quite useful to her situation (hint: you actually get to play this being the case)

Geralt only knows after the fact that here allies are incapacitated.

>>164792838
And it doesn't work that way in 4 either. Hell 4 is a bit better in that being good at pistols doesn't make you good at rifles.

>>164793323
Probably ought to take that conversation to /wtc/ anon.

>>164793323
The whole reason geralt is looking for her is because she's in danger.

haven't played since vanilla, is Curie still broken and unfinished?

no perks, shit stats, always defaults to fistfighting, etc?

>>164793450
But he knows she can take care of herself, unlike a 10 year old child. There is urgency but not enough to make the player feel they need to drop everything to find this woman.

>>164791293
I think the issue with Bethesda is they ultimately don't know how they want to make their games and its creating a disjointed experience.

They want to create an open world RPG but at the same time give it a heavy handed central narrative. What you get is a story that leaves too little room for the RPG elements and a main story that is overbearing and disconnected from the side quests, which does little but fuck with your character's motivations.

Motivations which have been established for you by Bethesda, once again fucking with the RPG aspect of the game.