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Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/
The expansion, Rise of Bahamut released on Dec. 29th.
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Last Worded: >>164711052
Did aggro rune get any tops in JCG?
Dorthy a cute!
So it Sword like dead or something?
who /aggro/ here??
So I heard you guys like mascots.
http://game-ai.jp/22454/
I would like some new leaders down the line now that I think about it. Luna is starting to grow irritating and I really dislike Mordecai.
>>164729387
CUTE
>Got an animated Nep even though I already got 3
What does it mean?
10580
A concede would be nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhSEAXEaJFQ
what do you think of this nep deck? he runs balor.
>tfw I won even after he evo'd two of his Levis and pulled off two Darias
>>164729414
BEST
>start up an alt
>queue up against a dariashitter in Beginner
>he plays 4 fucking minions into my yurius
there are literally no golds in this deck and i still managed to exactly T2 him, jesus christ that play was awful
>>164729521
Thank you!
>>164729517
Nep is your new waifu now
Xth for Vampy a CUTE!
I want to cover Luna's cute face with my thick seed!
Thinking of switching out Impious Resurrection from my Nep deck, any advice?
>>164729426
>play a deck that has a lot of skeletons
>not liking skeletor
>finding luna irritating
t. Dubfag
Nips are charging crystal now.
https://twitter.com/bitaminnnnnnn/status/816590645942882304
>Only two times someone has done this to me in a week has both been dragonfags
Salty little bitches
>tfw not intelligent enough for Forest 's roaches OTK
I started playing on Steam, but would also like to link my account to my phone for on-the-go. I've had bad experiences before in previous games involving link shenanigans and would like to know the procedure here. Is it simply just creating a link code on the Steam client then entering it on my phone on the title screen? No wonkiness with my Google Play profile?
>>164729696
just shove in more removal to contest earlygame; between undying resentment, soul hunt, deathbrand, and pact with the nethergod there's enough available low cost removal that you almost certainly shouldn't run all of it
>>164729729
Atomy and Spartoi Lord are both cooler than Mordecai is, and I might be a raging lolicon but I need a change of pace.
>new to the game, open up first pack of cards, get this
>guide says Vania is p good
So I guess I'm off to a good start, right?Already liking this more than Valkyrie Crusade
tfw you get outnepped
>>164729998
levi vania and crystalia tia are all staples in their decks
>>164729998
That's a really good pack you opened.
>>164729801
>Followers
Someone needs to inform them
Is it a sin to sandbag? I'm thinking that probably when I'm AA, I'll have a harder time getting points for the card backs. How different it is on A and AA?
>turn 9 Albert
>>164729857
Me too
Might need that cheatsheet for roach because i can't get the lethal
>tfw only playing Daria because I'm new and I eventually RNGed into a pile with 2 of them
I-I'm not a memelord I swear
>>164730209
Welp time to roll up to Nijie, this looks new.
>>164729998
Congrats, you literally just got 3 staples for different deck types.
Levi goes into all Rune decks, Vania is for one of the most popular current Blood decks, and Crystalia is one of the fucking elf cunts most used cards.
>>164730209
Can this found in booru?
Shit looks hot
>>164729387
Madokachan?
>>164729341
Why did they rename her to Daria in English version?
So it's around a week since RoB is online. Anyone liking Enhance as a mechanic? I really like what I am getting with Pact of the Nethergod.
A pity that Clash is not widely distributed.
65078
concede pls
>>164730201
The A/AA grind is insane, but getting the limited score rewards sleeves aren't an issue.
23441
need the concede please
>>164730341
Because she was called Daria in English Rage of Bahamut as well
just kill me now senpai
im about to craft 3 Daria's someone stop me
>>164730381
Thanks for the JO session bro
I sorta like this meme season. I saw this deck posted yesterday and having tested it myself, it has positive win rate written all over it.
Against Nep : starting hand keep/mulligan for Odin and wait for turn 8.
Against Seraph : ^
Against aggro : trade and tech until they run out of cards
Against Daria : lel.png
Surprisingly, I honestly thought to make this deck to counter Luna and Seraph plaguing the ladder right now but I did not expect it to do comparably well to very well against other decks.
>>164730495
What are you talking about? Left is a no-brainer. Alberto is enough to make up for memes of the sky.
>>164729387
>checked the promo video
>it's against two opponents that literally didn't play their deck
Good job, game-ai.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkwMY9ofMDo
>>164730362
It needs the option to choose to use it for better combo potential.
Clash seems kind of wasted.
>>164730501
Do you enjoy cáncer?
>>164730495
>he doesn't like le meme man of 10 damage
is deception the reynad of shadowverse?
Why is roach math so hard, guys?
>>164730362
enhance and clash are both pretty basic and didn't even need a new keyword.
fucking swordfags
>>164730705
Because anon is excited to math
983 PTS AWAY FROM MASTER TRIALS
>>164730265
Well, I guess I'm going to roll elf cunt for a while then, just unpacked Cynthia. Thanks for explaining who goes where, still going through the guide right now while I burn my tickets.
>>164729131
>>164729267
I've been using this in AA0. It's working out well so far. I swapped out fervids to try out the samurai's, I haven't really gotten much use out of them yet though.
I hate jeno's enhance cost, it becomes mandatory if you want to play jeno first so you can't do jeno into fencer on turn 7 because of his enhance but his rush ability is pretty great. Lets me save an EP for albert or aurelia.
2 monika's are subbed in for aurelia since I only have 1 but monika has really paid off well for me, I might want to go 2 aurelia and drop an alwida's for 2 monikas.
>>164730459
Yeah, but why?
>>164730495
What are you, a mama's boy? The choice shoudl be obvious.
Why do people run that shitty ass Ultimate Carrot in Nephthys decks? It's a complete shit card. When will they learn?
>>164730786
Well, the best decks for elves usually use a bunch of Legendary's, so they're pretty damn expensive. It'll probably take a while to build one unless you get a bunch of their good Legendary's, and roaches (roaches are gold though), since every elf deck uses them IIRC.
>>164730705
Beats me, have win 4 matches with Forest or Sword daily
Trying Forest for the first time, literally get raped by everything and feel utterly powerless with all my missplay
Tl;Dr: I have no idea of what the fuck i am doing when playing ForestGonna do the dailies with retard proofed Bannermeme, will probably get a 4 winstreak with it too
>>164730842
People fell for the carrot meme hard.
It's a shit card.
lewd handholding with forte
>>164730801
Are you using Gelt for any reason? He doesn't actually have to be in the deck for Amelia to "draw" one for you, I think.
>>164730801
Seems alright, but yeah, I think you need those Aurelias.
3 Fencers is pretty greedy though.
When doing the private match concede, is it ok if it's just the same person 20 times in a row? I can still get the gold?
>>164729896
You go to profile and get the code in the Email is really easy to link
Concede pls
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>nep this, nep that
>lastword this, lastword that
When can value king get back into the deck?
>>164730705
translation?
>>164729998
Grats with the pack, very very good, hope it doesnt fuck up your luck with the others.
Levi is the most broken 2 drop in the game. He's 7 damage worth for 1 evo point and 3PP, a staple in every Rune build ever.
Vania is also a staple for Blood decks, aggro blood uses her to sneak in damage without even attacking.
Tia is one of the biggest cockblocks Forest has to offer. She combos from a 4th turn evolved Princess Elf Mage so you can cast her turn 5 with the bonus. Every Forestcraft deck runs atleast 1-2 of her
>he could've won if Lord of RNG gave him the storm minion
Ahahahaha
>when the memes collide
>>164730927
>losing
>with elves
How the fuck? Are you retarded? It's literally easier than Bannersword.
Here, here is how you play elves: You shit out fairies to stall people, and then you slam down your OP as shit legendaries to stall until you get roaches and insta-win with bounce combos.
Or use bounce combo's on the elf cunt that shits out a free evolved follower.
why does banner also count as a free commander? wouldn't it be balanced if it just gave +1/+!?
is ptp dead now that Bahamut exists?
>>164730705
>>164730927
Is it though?
>>164731181
t unga
>>164731249
>B rank
>>164730562
it needs crystal
>>164731249
When you leave the shitter ranks, yeah.
>>164731108
The dailies is ok but the achiev you need to do with 20 different persons
>>164731164
Charge your crystals JO bro
>>164731231
Almost dead but still bullshit
YOU CAN HAVE MULTIPLE LEGENDARIES IN ONE DECK?
I just got hit with a Bahamut three turns in a row. I'm fucking mad.
>>164731119
I mean I built a deck that doesnt run Nep because I think the card is overrated.
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.5.63FiQ.63FiQ.63FiQ.5_QqY.5_QqY.5_QqY.63Ezi.63Ezi.63Ezi.5_RZQ.5_RZQ.6737K.6737K.6737K.6AtGA.6AtGA.6AtGA.63Kb4.63Kb4.673s2.673s2.61PnY.61PnY.61PnY.6Avhy.63Kaw.63Kaw.63MII.63MII.63MII.6Ay8C.6Ay8C.63KbE.63KbE.63KbE.67ARI.67ARI.6AviG.6AviG.63Jsg
The deck could definitely use some fine-tuning, however.
>>164731231
fun decks never die anon, these ungas bungas can play their vanilla followers
but i win if i have fun
>>164730705
because you have to take into account board space, damage dealt, and mana used.
People will say that it takes no skill, but it still requires more thought than any other deck in the game.
Concede please? 19 to go.
78078
>>164731258
What the fuck is a tunga?
What is a good control blood deck?
The ones I've tried love to brick really hard and don't feel that strong, compared to last xpac.
>>164731417
uuiisii mene ynnitilit yilauta t sverige mene
>>164730824
I love the Mama's boy but Albert is clearly the more reliable damage.
>100% win rate against aggro blood since I put in 2 fairy beasts.
Is there a better feeling than to bounce a beast and have the aggro shitter see their hard work undone right before their eyes?
>>164731367
>bouncing a card to your hand
>elementary school math
>hard
Jesus Christ I should go back to Magic if you faggots think any of this is 'hard'.
Can someone give me a good havencraft deck?
>>164731342
All rarities have a three card deck limit.
>>164731119
Value King is Professor of Taboos. Flies was never good.
>>164722556
>>164722707
>>164731519
when they emote while you are doing your roach math, and then they disconects when you drop that 9/1 roach
>>164731181
>Are you retarded?
Yes
Even Bannersword is suffering post RoB
>ice form into daria into flood board
What deck should I play if I enjoy losing?
>>164730209
>turn 10 Bahamut when the opponent has no cards in hand.
>>164731342
Yeah there's no arbitrary number of legenderies you can put 3 in each deck
>>164731417
Forced meme for Aggro and Sword decks that only play in curve and are easy to pilot
>>164731451
It's a hard time to control blood since everyone is shadow now
>>164731586
Is not refined but here
>>164731367
A lot of people definitely mess up their combos because they didn't take into account the board space or the mana cost
>>164731231
That and because Dorothy fills the board with more followers than Will of the Forest can deal with. Ramp Dragon was always pretty good against PtP anyway.
>>164731725
rose queen elf.
why the fuck am i suddenly running into dshift again
when are they nerfing this garbage
Someone concede for me please.
46199
>>164731049
Yea more wards of course, especially with all these aggro bloods and dorothy decks running around. With all the commanders, you'll usually be able to get gelt's ability off most of the time.
>>164731072
3 fencers is working out pretty well for me, so far I don't seem to need anything else so the deck feels really balanced imo.
I can actually craft another aurelia but I'm holding out on it at the moment. I wanted to get the sword prebuilt deck but since I don't use otohime anymore I'm still half decided over it. If aurelia was the animated alt art instead I would've bought it instantly.
I just hit A1 and it was fucking brutal. What rank does the game stop feeling like a grind?
left or right
>>164731806
I just won with dshift against a crystal dragon, was that you?
>>164731926
master
>>164731932
a real deck.
>>164730842
Because Shadow is the Timmy class. People like to go big and dumb when it comes to this class.
>>164731709
>forestshitter ever complaining
Why don't you choke on your roaches?
>>164731926
Nigga the grind has only BEGUN.
>>164731859
Thank you for that 1 person.
Any others please help a newbie.
>>164731417
Its like a tulpa but hairier.
why does this shitty ass lego not cost 4 points?
>>164729387
Man, these early Nep lists suck massive dick.
Balor isn't even the good 6 drop, if you want to run a 6 then you want Ghostly Rider. You don't need the AoE, you need protection from storm bullshit like Albert.
And why the actual fuck does he have Lyrial in the deck over Ghosthound Sexton, Skullcradle Widow, Dark Conjurer, Spectre, Lesser Mummy, Lurching Corpse, etc? Shadow has no shortage of great 2 drops and he runs a shit neutral only marginally better than Fighter.
You only need 2 Mordecai, 3 is wrong and makes your deck too top heavy.
Dance of Death in a non-aggro deck? Soul Hunt over Deathbrand?
My brain hurts right now.
aggro is the cancer ruining card games
it literally reduces the game to a coin flip in the first five turns
>>164731932
Right works better.
>>164732032
Huh, I just thought it was kinda cool. If you can't tell it's not even me playing. Why are you so hostile?
>>164731748
Hmm thanks I'll save this, but don't have enough to craft 2 seraphs
>>164732118
>4pp 4/5 with a board clear effect
>>164732074
It's the concede or achievments of 2000 gold?
>>164731926
>>164732118
>>164731926
>What rank does the game stop feeling like a grind?
um i don't think thats how rank systems work my dude
>>164732214
>gamepress
fuck off
>>164732164
lmfao you can eat shit and some face damage, nerd.
>>164731926
Once you get to master you can play fun meme decks unless you are grinding towards the end of the month rewards.
>>164732210
>board clear
its only 2 dmg?
>4pp 4/5
no evo effect, if you want to lower the stats then give it one
>win 4 Forest/Sword
>4 lose streak with Forest
>4 loses streak with bannersword
Can i have a Forest list?
Looks like i need to learn how to play it if i want my rupies
Banner doesn't perfom too
HOW DO I PICK BETWEEN THESE????? FUCK!!!!!
sshod I keep ??
Wish there was some way of seeing if someone was a rage quitting disconnecter. I want to be able to BM them before they inconvenience me and make me wait as a result of their RQ'ing.
>>164732157
You forgot the part where he only has 2 Nep and no draw in the deck.
>>164730705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0dJWfQHF8Y
What wentwrongwith dragon?
3x Foul Tempest or 3x Deathbrand?
>>164732382
flip a coin
>>164732382
I think left will generate more value.
>>164732383
Do you REALLY want to play ramp dragon? It's expensive and you only have Bahamut and Odin for it.
Tia would be a good pull if not for the fact that Forest is currently mega-cucked by Yurius.
I say reroll.
What's this card good for?
>>164732157
>He doesn't know about the Ghostly Rider interaction with Nep
Balor is the better option.
>>164732569
Vials.
>>164731932
Modify the right a bit. Dump the kaleido's, they never do enough on their own I've found. Add a 3rd Levi, and then add any cheap spell you like. Shit, Wind Blast will work even.
>>164732569
Toilet paper
>>164730705
Combo forest is the hardest deck to play in the game right now imo.
>>164729387
This is one fucking weird list and it looks like trash to me, but Rizer's lists have gotten me big streaks in AA in the past so I'll just assume he knows some next level shit I'm too stupid to understand and try it later.
>>164732538
>>164732515
Fuck. I guess I can't pass up the Sieg but it's hard to let go of Owl and Baby Forte.
>>164732569
cumrag
>>164732157
The point of the deck is to give it the same thing each time on an empty board with Nephthys. Unica and Bell angel help protect your face for turn 8 while Lyrial is the only card in the deck that can help you control the board with an evolve effect. Deathbrand will use up shadows when you need it for Death's Breath.
>>164732539
>Do you REALLY want to play ramp dragon? It's expensive
i guess not :\
>I say reroll.
thanks
>>164732502
It became the class for stupid meme decks.
Meanwhile people overlook the fact that Ramp Dragon is the only true counter to Elana (either versions with Odin or hybrid Seraph versions) and is a serious Tier 1 deck.
>>164732118
Lad this Matriarch is a best Fafnir with a better effect
>>164732371
Make a banner Sword play in the curve and remove Yurius.
>forest
If you don't have a 6 legenderies and 12 golds trying to do it is waste of time
>>164732382
Go for sieg it is always good
>>164732383
6 good legenderies of 10.
Show your golds.
>>164732502
Not everyone is playing with the best deck the JO Dragon
>>164732539
At least he have a lot of diversity and this one is a good roll
>>164732569
onahole
>>164732569
control haven
anyone available for conceding?
31981
>>164732352
Do you even play this game or are you just shitposting? At that stage in the game 2 damage can clear pretty much any board. Also, 4/5 for 4pp is way over the stats a fanfare follower of that cost should have.
>>164732502
Their legendary was made neutral and they got a meme in its place
>>164729857
If you have trouble doing roach math, I suggest you try counting the mana backwards.
>roach-guidance-roach is 5 mana
>if I have another roach add 2 mana
>count the rest of the cards in the combo.
>count the cards in their proper order to get roach damage.
>>164732569
mind break doujins
>>164732582
Why are you spreading lies? I've played the deck a shit ton already and Ghostly Rider has always worked correctly off Nep.
>>164732569
For when you want to board clear without killing your Eidolon.Just dust it.
I'm tired of losing and am going to craft three Darias. Blame Cygames for balancing the game around anti fun bullshit.
I didn't choose the cancer, the cancer chose me.
>>164732502
What this shit is sppose to be? this game is unbalanced aggro rune and aggro blood have 100% of winrate feels bad.
>>164732218
2000 gold. How is it done anyway?
>tfw 60% win rate
FUCK RANKING UP TAKES SO LONG
>>164732652
Anon, don't even bother trying to justify fucking Lyrial.
Also he has 2 neps in his list. TWO
WITH NO DRAW
T W O
W
O
>>164732792
Daria bricks often as fuck
Source: I play Daria. You're gonna find out really fucking quick the deck isn't anything as good as it looks.
>>164732692
>Make a banner Sword play in the curve and remove Yurius.
It's Shadow
Not Blood the problem
It's fucking Shadow
>If you don't have a 6 legenderies and 12 golds trying to do it is waste of time
Not a problem
3 AE
3 Tia
3 Cynthia
3 Roaches
Have everything i need except knowing what the fuck doing with them
>>164732805
Play 20 private match games with DIFFERENT people where there is no concedeing and one of you die.
>>164732692
Now forest has the combo roach deck that uses only 3 ancient and 3 roach, liza/wotf/tia/cynthia seems to be more of an option than mandatory.
>>164732856
That dude's deck looks like utter horse shit but 3 Neps does sound extreme.
My first Nep summon, it's alright. Thinking of taking out Skull Beast though.
>>164732883
Can you do it consecutively in one day?
Why are Vampy and Levi 4/4 when evolved?
I'm going to liquefy everything and make a unstoppable meme deck that can counter Daria and Bats. Any ideas?
>>164732923
Nep is your bread and butter, you need to draw it, you need 3
>>164732953
Yes and you can use the board to help you on your quest.
>>164732706
>>164732805
You need to lose or win 20games with different persons without concede.
FUCKING DRAGON FAGGOT RUINED MUH SHADOW ARENA RUN
HE LITERALLY DUMPED 3x FOLLOWERS 2 TURNS IN A ROW BY TURN LIKE 15
WORST PART IS THAT I WOULD HAVE WON IF I HADNT BEEN HIT BY A LUCIFER EVO EFFECT 5 TURNS BACK
IM SO MAD
I NEVER LOSE TO DRAGON IN ARENA
Fuck
and of course he went second but i could have won easily if he hadnt been a lucky cunt
>>164732985
Thanks a bunch.
Help me lose or win guys. 97897
non nep control shadow vs nep shadow which is better?
>>164732960
Vampy is fine, Levi is ridiculous.
46731
12/20
Also can someone post a sword list? don't have enough alberts tho, and not sure if princess vanguard is worth.
>>164732950
General you want to have 5 different cost types. I don't think you want 1 costs to be a potential pull.
>>164733017
Dragon wins automatically in arena if the game goes over turn 12. Their minions are pretty much designed to stand by themselves, and in a late game situation they win.
>>164732967
Fairy spam into Rose Queen into PtP
>>164733103
>4/4 + 1/1 + bats synergy + 1 face damage is fine
>>164730705
Reduce battle animations in setting. It saves a ton of time.
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Need 20 people to bully Rowen
Is there literally ANY FEELING better than top decking our guy Alberto with an empty hand against a Havenshitter?
>dshift
>dshift
>daria
>daria
nice fucking meta
when are they nerfing this garbage
>>164732856
Bellringer Angel is draw. in the article it says he doesn't put in any draw sources because it hurts the deck more than it helps it. He also says it's 3:2 Mordecai/Nephthys because the deck wins off only removal and Mordecai, so Mordecai is more important. Dark Conjurer is the only 2 drop would I would put in over Lyrial but if you have to evolve to gets its effect you might as well just use Lyrial for essentially the same thing. Lurching Corpse will never activate on its own with this deck.
>>164733102
Okay hold up question.
What's the difference between midrange and control shadow, cause they both seem like the exact same thing.
>>164733137
No cause i had a shiton of removal. Literally would have won next turn if he hadn't dumped all that shit 2 turns in a row in fact i would have still won if it wasn't for lucifer faggotry
Feena is cute, cute!thanks to anon who gave source pic
>>164732856
>evolve levi
>trade into a vania and kill a bat with the crimson sorcery
>evolve lyrial
>trade into a vania and kill a bat
I know this is a bad comparison, but in a deck where you wants as many removal as you can, that one ping might help you to kill off dying followers.
>>164733220
People keep making up retarded terms really.
"Midrange" in general sounds fucking retarded. Playing creatures to a curve shouldn't be it's own fucking deck type, thats called playing the goddamn damn properly.
Poor Dork...
>X deck
>X deck
>X deck
Nice fucking meta
When they are nerfin this garbage
>>164733263
He won and you lost faggot, get over it. And if you had tons of removal then him dumping stuff on the board wouldn't have been a problem.
>My deck isn't winning all the time
Nice fucking meta
When they are nerfin this garbage
>>164733158
>4/4 +1pp spell (3 damage) + 1 spellboost
>>164733213
>Bellringer Angel is draw. in the article it says he doesn't put in any draw sources because it hurts the deck more than it helps it.
Okay you gotta realize just how retarded this is. The chances of getting both mordecais out before turn 8 are very low. Not having any draw means not drawing your neps or your answers to survive before turn 8 or not drawing the things you need to win after turn 8.
Not having draw in this deck is really fucking dumb.
>>164732967
control blood :^)
>>164733186
This was pretty satisfying. Bastard had healed up to 20 from ~5 hp 3 times by this point.
>>164733102
I've played this 3 times already, I won with Nep each time. You have more ways to get Mordecai out which is a huge fucking deal.
>>164732967
ptp bunny haven
>>164733186
Having an evolve point for that delicious 10 face damage
>other people don't play shit decks so I win all the time
When are they nerfing this garbage?
>>164733316
>opponent plays cards
why is this allowed?
Have you prayed to your insect overlords today?
>Last word: Win the game
CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>164733372
Yes I know it is busted. Vampy does the same shit.
is there a site where I can obtain many meme decks and netdecks?
>>164733220
There isn't one because Shadow has a pretty focused core of cards. Midrange Shadow doesn't work because it's a half-assed version of Control without the inevitability of Aggro.
>>164733292
>"Midrange" in general sounds fucking retarded
Midrange is an MtG term that is completely misunderstood in Shadowverse. A "Midrange" deck just uses a combination of super value creatures backed up by spells to beat the opponent, like a halfway point between aggro which seeks to beat the enemy before they can stabilize, and control decks which are defined by answers and grinding the opponent out of resources.
>Fanfare: Lose the game
Seriously cygames?
>>164733469
http://usamin.love/card/odin/e_summon.wav
http://usamin.love/card/odin/j_summon.wav
Any deck that isn't turbo aggro should be running at least 2 Odins right now, it's just a good card at the moment.Except Nep decks because you can't clog the 8 drop slot unfortunately.
>Date Masumune
>Dragon
???
>>164733376
>The chances of getting both mordecais out before turn 8 are very low
that's not the problem with draw you gigantic mongoloid
you know what's better than playing a card that draws an answer you need to survive to turn 8? straight-up drawing the answer you need to survive to turn 8. the options for card draw especially in shadow are incredibly anti-tempo
but you cretins don't understand anything about deckbuilding and you were demonstrably incorrect in your predictions for how nephthys decks should be built, so it shouldn't be a surprise you don't know how to play the game either
I was hoping Khawy's Last Words would activate before the Ninja Master spawned, but I guess I've learnt my lesson
>>164733586
He's a one eyed dragon.
>>164733469
Your answer is literally above you.
>>164732998
Wait can you just use leapdroid and rechallenge yourself 20 times? By of course deleting your profile in leapdroid 20 times so it's like a different person everytime right?
>>164733537
this thread
better one is following all those nip masters on twitter/stream but those usually ends up here too
>>164733436
trying, at 15 lose streak in unranked for 50 rupies(9 with Forest 6 with Sword)
With Shadow around i gave up on playing Sword without legos, my banner feel utterly shit now
>>164733587
Anon, Nep summons Mordecai. Drawing her is strictly better than drawing him.
I feel like I'm being rused at this point.
>>164729646
Who else gets irrationally angry over the fact her art cuts off the ends of her feet? I know she wearing open toed shoes and they won't let us see her sexy toes
>>164733595
Spells resolve in the order they are played/activated.
>>164733578
I'm considering putting a 3rd Odin in. I'm drowning in Shadowfags and Havenfags trying to counter them
>>164733359
It is when its turn 15 you retard
Why are you such a cunt? why do you evne reply if you are not going to say anything of value
can someone help with Concede?
61393
thanks in advance
>unga bungas can't play forest
the real thinking man's class
>>164733315
what were they thinking?
>>164733638
Yes you can do itbut is sad
Someone post a legit nep deck that people can agree on
>>164733376
By turn 8 you'll go through about half your deck without counting Bellringer Angel draws. You'll most likely draw either Nephthys or Mordecai by then. I don't think the deck is good but it's not the worst Nephthys deck either. It's probably the best one I've seen so far to get what you want each time.
S U G O I
M A H O U
>>164733587
Except that with soul conversion you have card draw that procs your LW that takes out their board and keeps you alive.
Bellringer exists to buy you a turn and a card.
Widow just being an offensively statted one.
Both of which have great synergy with the rest of a nep deck to give you the draw while taking out their board or buying you time to get answers.
>>164733765
Counting is hard
>>164730842
what would you pick instead of gourmet emperor for 3pp?
>>164733768
>I'm going to lose anyways so might as well drop my big card and see some cool animations
What else could he do?
>>164733775
But there isn't one. That's why Shadowverse is great because decks can be varied since nothing is totally optimized.
Except for those forest decks. Ignore those fuckers.
>>164733796
Anon, I'm pretty sure I could write a very simple bot that plays that deck perfectly, I have never in my life seen a more braindead deck.
Sword was a mistake. Remove Erika.
>>164733765
>forest shitter takes forever doing complex nobel prize winning calculations
>lays down 2 roaches then nature's guidance instead of 1 roach nature's guidance then 2 roaches
>>164733292
>"Midrange" in general sounds fucking retarded. Playing creatures to a curve shouldn't be it's own fucking deck type, thats called playing the goddamn damn properly.
"midrange" was developed as a term because it was distinctly different from how magic was traditionally played, and it coincided with Wizards deciding to cater to brainless people incapable of basic arithmetic who just wanted to throw pushed cards in their opponent's general direction until they get carried to a win. Years later, blizzard sees how much money you can make off these mouthbreathers and releases Curvestone which is also a success, and now we are in 2017 and they've multiplied so much they have the gall to call their aberration of a style "playing the goddamn game properly"
aggro combo and control are the true patrician archetypes. hearthtards, especially those who think their slow midrange decks deserve to be called control, are too brain damaged to understand that.
>>164733896
>What else could he do?
not ramp up like a moron for a bahamut play and let a control shadow take you to 3 hp in 6 turns?
>>164733595
Worry not, your misfortune and misinformation is my gain as now I'll never make that same mistake. Isn't that why we come here? To learn tips and tricks on decks and cards?
>>164733972
This deck is gonna get me to masters
>>164733746
I said something of value here >>164733137, literally explaining how Dragon has the advantage on drawn out games. You just went
>HURR DURR I HAD REMOVAL I DESERVED THE WIN
when in reality he deserved the win because, well, he fucking won.
>>164734005
Caw Blade and UW Delver must have felt like sex to you huh?
>>164734134
People come here to bitch about the shit that beats them or brag about their wins.
94418
14/20 cum get it
>Empty hand
>Opponent on 2 health with tons of wards while I'm on 3 with nothing useful on the field
>Draw my sole dance of death
>>164734210
And i explained the advantage meant jack shit given my deck and i lost due to badluck in fact if he hadn't hit me with the lucifer effect the turn he evolved i would have easily won
why can't you even read waht you reply to?
>>164734216
I started playing this game literally cause of things like this >>164729341
So if you want to post anime tiddies, that would ensure this game gets more attention.
>unga bungas in T2
Thanks for keeping my 1/1 on the board for 8 turns
>>164733809
>Widow just being an offensively statted one.
widow doesn't buy you any turns and only very conditionally does anything to your opponent's board.
and while hitting a soul conversion on LW for value is the kind of epic xD play that easily impressed people like you seem to lean towards, soul converting a relevant body will often cost you a notable amount of life from the amount of board presence you lose, and soul converting an irrelevant body means you were running the irrelevant body which means you lost board and therefore life by default. it's not a cost worth paying compared to having more plug-and-play ways to contest earlygame and survive to later turns; your deck has enough value already
>>164734330
Why don't you post the replay of the last few turns then? Or at least tell me what he played and what you had. By the way, it's a card game so you're bound to get unlucky sometimes.
>>164734134
Now its your turn to feed us information. Please make a giant meme deck and report back to us
>>164734352
See, this is what being an oppaifag gets you, frogposting normalfags.
Cure lolis are the only answer, always have been.
Does control sword just fold to shadow?
>>164733431
WHY THE FUCK IS THIS ALLOWED? GREAT FUCKING GAME
>>164734475
shut up and kiss me
>>164734352
I think Dshift is a stronger rune deck that Daria.
>>164734475
Vampire lolis are fucking played out and I'm tired of this shit.
>>164733272
I want Feena to marry Gobu and raise Roach children!!!
>>164732890
that deck still uses 3 selwyn command or 3 cynthia or sometimes a couple of will of the forest, i.e. also three golds
>>164733770
Sad. But faster. I have pulover's macro for auto tutorial anyway.
>>164733272
Did you TL this? Nice typesetting.
>>164733409
i meant for the current meta, not if they fought against each other
>>164734502
I'm running a build with double Odins and I'm about 55-60% winrate against Shadow. Fair amount of matches against them too since Shadowfags are everywhere at the moment, so it seems about right. I'm actually tempted to put in a 3rd Odin and I usually win the games where I actually keep him in my opening hand (since Shadow has a pretty slow early game anyway)
I imagine the CSword decks that don't have Odins just fall over and die to them though
>>164734549
But thats not how roaches breed anon.
>>164729205
Post your meme dicks
>>164733158
lol, why dont you complain of unica then, i mean she i like 2/2 and 2 points of heal, evolves to 4/4
vampy is fine
>>164733272
Cute pair desu
>getting fucked hard by a guy 7 ranks below me in unranked
>>164730992
delet
>>164734296
15/20 edging for sum more
Isabelle is so sexy, why isn't she more popular? She's probably the sexiest in the whole game.
>>164731115
only if you post a cute anime girl
>>164734753
Rank doesn't matter when you play the autopilot class.
here you go /svg/
never forget that aggro blood players are literally subhuman
>>164734753
Are you playing everything on curve or something?
>>164733202
>dshift
People still complaining about this?
POST STATS
>>164734842
I'd fuck cavewoman Vampy.
>>164734842
UNGA BUNGA IS JUST TOO CUTE
>>164734842
Well done
>>164734842
Are you a sword player trying to deflect?
i need some ideas for roach deck post em
>>164734842
nice
>>164734502
>>164734652
friendly reminder that the tournament-winning control blood was packing 3 odin 3 bahamut
this is the future of control
we neutralverse now
>>164734416
Because its pointless all i wanted to do is to rant.
In the last turn i had on board the 1/2 that kills when it dies while in my deck i still have conversion, impervious and the 3/3 that trades 1/1
and a 3/4 neutral in board
in my hand i had deathbrand a 13/13 from the enhance neutral
He played a 4/4 dragon aiela and a another 2/2
I literally lost to aiela hitting face
i think i had like 10 cards left
and i would have won easily had he not evolved lucifer some tunrs back he also got lucky in the previous turn and had played also 3 4x dragons which at least 1 he got with emissary .
>>164734830
Oops sorry we already played
>>164734842
that's so adorable!
>>164734867
>TheDarkRider
>Swedish
Really makes you think
>Aggro Decks
A deck that does it's best to shit out enough pressure and damage to kill you before you can properly setup.
>Control Deck
A deck that plays for the long game that either focuses on protection or burning through it's opponents resiources that will eventually be able to throw down game winning cards
>Midrange
A deck that focuses on maintain pressence throughout all points of the game. Playing on curve is part of it, but it doesn't play on curve much like Aggro decks since this deck focuses on being viable throughout all points if the game, so it won't throw down a bunch of cards just to hit face, it will also use cards with utility. Since this is SV, that's limited to Wards and Destruction cards or card that counter other things like Blitz Lancer.
Aggro>Control>Midrange>Aggro
>too bad Daria didn't get this memo
>>164729341
I don't usually have a problem with inexplicably naked anime waifus but something about this particular image just seems so unnatural.
>>164734992
no problem it happens
>>164734924
>but m-muh sword
both sword and bats are SMorc, quit trying to pretend like you're somehow better
So why do dragon players use roost against a seraph deck already?
Especially to summon a lone piece of shit like Fafnir that only cleared a rabbit and a falcon?
>>164734983
I'm not opposed to it, Control vs Control isn't particularly infuriating compared to HS matches, more skilled too. Aggro is still perfectly viable too
>>164733017
>one game out of all the shadow runs I've played, my class didn't carry me hard enough to overcome the first player disadvantage!
pick anything but the most brainless class in arena and then maybe people will take your complaints seriously
Help me improve my deck. I know that consistency is key, just don't have enough vials for 3x all the legendaries.
On the right of the screen 2x Alwida 1x Dark Angel Oliva.
>>164734849
It's more a case i don't know how to play Forest
Needed to win 4 matches
17 Loses
2 wins
1 by concede
1 by getting out the roachesetween 3 different turns
>>164734867
5 more days until I'm Master and can meme to my hearts content.
>>164735089
Have you donged your dings today
>>164735031
More like Aggro > Combo > Control > Midrange > Aggro.
>>164734924
no,control blood
>>164734965
this master roach deck has been posted a few times, but I really like playing it. Maybe drop the felpurr for snipes because board space sucks.
>>164734606
I do, since the text is relatively simple and I've typesetted several doujins before. My nip is shit tier though.
>>164735031
What a fluffy angel
>>164735085
It's a cheese tactic, basically they use Roost to bait the opponent into dumping their hand so that they can Bahamut their shit next turn. It's super telegraphed as you can see in this image.
>>164735115
oops forgot image
>>164734965
The core for roach now is like 3x roach 3x goblin mage 3x nature's guidance and just go from there.
I personally still like Cynthia and Liza, a lot of games i get a ton of damage in with just small board liza vs Dragon/Rune
what are the best ways to earn gold? i almost want to go crazy with packs
>>164734867
Do stats reset on new seasons? This is my first.
>>164735145
But Control Blood shits on Aggro Blood because it's full of combos at all point of the game. Or would that mean Control Blood is really MidRange Blood?
>>164735241
only Master rank points resets after each season
>>164734842
I would Unga her Bunga
>>164734830
oops closed
>>164735031
>Aggro
Deck archetypes that aggressively deal damage to the enemy leader from the beginning of the game are called aggro decks.
>Midrange
A midrange deck aims to win by utilizing the strength of each and every card. Midrange decks generally try to overwhelm the opponent with sustained power.
>Control
Control decks aims to stay in control of the match through all stages of the game. This archetype typically finishes the opponent in one fell swoop at the end.
Straight from Shadowverse's official articles
>>164734720
Fanfare effects or base effect literally don't matter when it comes to the 1/1 versus 2/2 stat gain, it only matters whether or not they do something special when they evolve.
She evolves into a 4/4 that summons a 1/1 so she actually gets increased stats. And gives 1 face damage because of her effect anyways. Usually this means the card would only get 1/1 increase in stats (like the 4 drops)
Compare it to Dark summoner which also gives a total 5/5 in stats and literally does 3 damage (to your own face) just for that extra 1/1 stat line.
Obviously some cards are going to power creep but it makes me wonder why the fuck dwarf alchemist is a 3/3 evolve when Levi and Vania exist. Guess only golds and 4 drops get to be OP.
Unless they are lesbian duo, for some reason they balanced those fucking cards way too much and thus made them worthless in the process.
>>164734867
Wow, it's been a while.
>>164735171
Good stuff anon.
need a concede for a daily, pls
91686
>>164734652
Ok, maybe I should invest in a couple. I'm pretty low on vials after crafting that 50k deck.
>>164735318
that's a way of simplifying it
>>164735216
I have a really hard time believing that tia will fall out of whatever the roach deck ends up being, when you still have princess mage for T5 tia, and now feena enables T6 tia with the help of a single fairy
Is it worth buying a prebuilt pack just so I can vial some shit?
There is this weird bug i encounter.
If someone evolve neptune and the next turn he use goblinmount ward, it doesnt kill the megalora.
I lost to that stupid ass bug.
REEEEEEEEEE
>royal is dead
>>164735210
>>164735115
Aurelias, Fangblade Slayer, Frontguard General, White Paladin are cheaper Golds you should consider. You should get rid of your Quickbladers and swap them with something like Unicas for instance, they're pretty useless in CSword. Vanguards are optional depends on how much Aggro you're facing.
>>164735350
thanks, vampy!
Has anyone else not even played a single match since the new cards came out? I just log in for the daily reward.
Have the new cards made the game funner?
>>164734867
Messed too much at the end of DE, then moved to bats and climbed from literally the starting point of A0 to this in 60 matches
>>164735360
It'll help against Shadow, I guarantee it.
It'd be a shame if Shadow ended up being a meme and disappearing from ladder in a weeks time though
>>164735448
List? Are you running a more midrange sword or control sword?
>>164735485
Yes except for the existence of Daria which made the meta feel unfun.
>>164735121
You really do not want to get the roaches out early unless you have extra roachs/guidances on hand or have an ancient elf to scoop them back up.
Most of the time you would be keeping the 0pp gobu/fairy in your hand unless you already have 9 cards.
The rest is just chipping your opponent till they get into lethal range depending on how many roach/guidance in your hand.Where's the roach damage chart when you need it
>>164735485
ranked is awful arena is way more fun
>>164735448
>opponent put yurius
>me can't unga bunga anymore
Also congrats.
Saxton should summon a zombie on evolve.
>>164735378
Tia has been one of since last expansion. You just don't want to burn zerocosts on her in roach because it's against what the deck is about, so she's a turn 7 play, and by that point she's too slow, so some decks have forgone her entirely.
>>164735391
most of the shit which they give is very needed though and you can't liquefy the alt art card
but it doesn't sound as a bad idea desu
>>164735378
Honestly dropped her from 2x to 1x and I feel she still fits into a more tempo list but it seems Forestcraft has devolved into Aggro/Roach Combo.
>>164734842
I love it.
Is it possible for you to do Sword Unga Bunga and Daria Voodoo Bunga?
>>164735534
>>164735156
is ptp still even worth playing or no?
>>164735268
in hearthstyle games aggro out-tempos midrange, midrange slams threats until control no longer has the ability to control them, and control successfully controls aggro's ability to push lethal. This gets messy in control mirrors because one deck is usually heavily favored in any given control matchup RPS-style, but this can mostly be accounted for by acknowledging that many "control" decks are just slow midrange. They're called control because that label is assigned based on the use of a parallel, older system where there's just a straight line from control to aggro (inevitability vs. tempo) and anything that falls on the control end of the spectrum is justifiably called control, even if they are enough in the middle to fall into the "midrange" category using the 3-archetype rock-paper-scissors model.
>>164735642
How often do you get to proc samurai effect? Most of the time I just stick to gelt.
>>164734842
I'm expecting this to be the OP of the next general thread
>>164735031
Midrange is really just about pooping out value anon. You're overcomplicating it. >>164735318 has it right.
>>164735520
Yeah I believe it. I've lost about 800 points or so today mostly to nep and shadow decks.
Hard to build around that and also be good against aggro.
>>164734867
i am literally the most noob here!
funny i have a full complete aggro blood and no ranked with it yet...
also i am not a weaboo it's this game refuses to give me english flairs back
>>164735391
>>164735589
I bought the forest prebuilt three times and made like 6000 vials just from dusting the duplicates
>>164735774
is that you bad arcade kitty?
>>164735701
most of the time he's just a 2/2 on 2. during my last 2k, I got matched against alot of vampy and Daria so samurai did activate alot more.
>>164735774
sorry but i am the most noob here
>>164735790
but it's 1.5 more expensive the second and the third time
>>164735701
He's probably using it as a tech against Ancient Elf
>>164735391
Forest pre-built gives you like all the important pieces for how you play the deck like AE, roach and tia. It's probably the best in terms of what you want for the class
>>164735683
>tl;dr
I don't care about Hearthstone and it's jank balancing
post your favorite meme/ Non meta deck
>>164735850
yes, did we meet on the stream?:3
>>164734867
I just want to play T2, but I have to climb so I can stop being considered a shitter.
>>164735913
tl;dr control blood is control and "Aggro>Control>Midrange>Aggro" is ass-backwards wrong
Newshitter question but, is Swordcraft known to illicit rage? Or be annoying in general?
I started the tutorial for Sword because my husbando Albert is of that deck. So far I've been having fun with the gameplay and the voice acting is charming in its 90s dub quality. But then I went on my first online matches. I've won every single match but 2 of them in a row had my opponent forfeit when I was 1 turn away from the kill. And so far 3 have disconnected when I beat them/was launching the final attack. Did I do something wrong or offensive? I'm just trying to get coins to pull baha packs till I got my boy.
>>164735451
I am playing a control deck? What does that mean?
Which cards should I replace with white paladin?
>>164735868
Yeah but I have three sexy Ancient Elf. How many sexy Ancient Elf do YOU have?
>>164734867
I just use the most recent level 100 flair that I get while matching an emblem that fits it. Right now I'm trying to get the haven one, still have dragon, shadow and rune left.
>>164736067
Just be yourself desu
>>164736107
why is a korean "person" playing this game
Anyone have a decklist for JO dragon?
>>164736068
See >>164735318
I'm assuming you're very new to card games if you're not sure about the terms. White Paladin is a 3PP card so as a general rule of thumb, you should consider replacing one of your original 3PP cards like Navy Lieutenant and Pompous Princesses with it.
Personally, if you're new I'd suggest you play something like Midrange Sword instead since Control Sword is ungodly expensive to make. See >>164735642 as an example Midrange Sword deck.
>>164736067
>Did I do something wrong or offensive
Yeah, you beat them in a waifu card game. Please be more considerate of others' feelings and try to lose any games you play in the future.
Everyone get in here!! Cure_mango is about to play JO Dragon!!
>>164736067
no, the annoying ones it's rune and forest
>>164736096
o-one
..i will also craft two non flashy ones
>>164735991
I remember you fromwows
>>164736067
Forfeiting is normal and isn't indicative of rage, though DC usually is.
Sword typically pisses people off a lot less than most crafts no matter how bullshit it gets though, you were probably unlucky, that or you're a rude fucker in some other way.
>>164734842
I want to commit a caveman crime!
Fuck yes got to Rank AA with this deck.
>>164736339
have you ever had to sahaquiel an odin
>>164736285
oh, those were fun times
hello!
i heard they released german dd recently but i'm too mad at that greedy company
btw, don't you think dragonewt charlotte looks a bit like murakumo... i mean a bit
Nep a best.Also, ignore that Phantom Howl.
Is Bahamut a good card in CSword?
I'm indecisive about putting him or Dark Angel Olivia in my deck
>>164736197
I see thanks for your suggestion, but I like my deck and just want to work on improving it for now, despite its flaws.
>>164736442
For Tempo plays as long as Odin gets to live.
>>164736175
Why not?
Is Fairy Bringer playable in aggroach? It's overstatted for its cost and has an on-theme fanfare
>>164736495
Really good.
>>164736630
It saw play Pre-RoB, but you try not to have any other 2pp followers now, so that Gobu draws Roach.
>>164736487
>cerb
>phantom howl
>in top nep
Oh shit nigga what are you doing
>>164736480
really only the evolved card art's hair does.
Someone please post their Shadow deck. I never play the class and I just need to do my 1 win daily. I even have 3 Neps from opening packs
why can't I be this lucky when it comes to legendaries
>>164736245
>rune
Christ alive that was such a bitch to beat in the story! Endless lifepoint damage or just board sweeping.
>>164736113
>>164736223
>>164736310
I guess it's just that I'm more used to fighting games, so anyone disconnecting or leaving early is typically bad. But in a card game it's probably obvious when you'll lose next turn and it's the same whether you see it play out or concede. Glad it wasn't anything major, back to grinding for my blonde beau..Koga's titties are so stonking great god damn, I got two of the girl as well!
thank you anon that mentioned that the Forest deck has good value. i bought two of the decks and i'm having a blast and since i have an excess of tias i'm getting vials too! the fairies are really cute as well.
>>164736687
I figured as much, it just seems very split on people using Bahamut and people using Olivia
>>164736756
do you also have 3 urds and 2 mordekai?
>>164736715
It's just my regular Shadow deck with 2 Neps thrown in because fuck yea Nep. What's wrong with Phantom Howl anyway, I thought Nepdecks would benefit from more spells?
>>164736339
3 odins????
Post your face when you realized that Amelia is not a FF replacement but a budget Aurelia.
why do neph and daria exist?
>>164736861
You had letal
Somebody post JO dragon. I know they have like a 40% win rate, but I'm sitting at like 5%.
>>164736849
I got 2 Urds and 1 Mordecai. I just need one win so the deck doesn't have to be perfect
>>164736487
you had lethal indeed
>>164736841
I use Bahamut x2 in my list, he carried me so many games.
I'm A1 atm, climbing casually. Olivia seems decent to enable Albert 10 dmg face shenanigans, Odin seems legit as well with all the nepneps and the seraphs trying to counter nepneps.
I'd remove Barrage x2 for Odin x1 + Olivia x1. I love Barrage, but I think I'll have to pass on it.
>>164736841
Play both
>>164736918
>>164736978
I said to ignore that, why didn't you do what I asked anon?
>>164735774
>d1
what a tryhard, im the strongest beginner 2 this general has kiddo
>>164736921
40% is if you actually run followers like a pleb
>>164736861
You need those shadows for foul tempest and death's breath. You are not an aggro deck.
Also, using cerb means there's a chance Nep can summon cerb, which is horrible for two reasons.
1: One of Nep's slots is dedicated to doing absolutely fucking nothing except getting 1 shadow
2: You just wasted a Cerb
>>164737005
playing with your food is bad!
>winning with seraph on turn 9 with opponent on 20 health and stacked board
>>164737034
Teach me, sensei.
Who's the cutest boy and why is itReno?
post dirt rune decks
>>164736875
You wouldn't believe how many Bahamuts and Seraph I got to remove because of those Odins.
>>164736898
Amelia isn't either of those things though. She's a new value card that doesn't require EP to function.
game is trying to tell me something.
>>164737037
I usually have an abundance of Shadows but I always save Phantom Howl until after I've used Death's Breath.Also I've got Cerb sleeves, she's my favorite card so I'm keeping her in.
>>164737082
I didn't realize it until after, I had Nep tunnel vision.
>>164737104
azazel
>>164737104
I'm pretty sure "Reno, Feathery Maiden of Light" is a girl anon
much like sahaquiel she'd be cuter with a penis but whatchagonnado
>>164736715
would you happen to have a list for best nep deck anon?
>>164737003
>>164736980
>Both
What do you suggest I get rid of then?
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.2.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.625lc.625lc.625lc.628AI.628AI.65z2e.65z2e.65-lY.65-lY.69kl4.69kl4.69kl4.5-K1I.5-K1I.5-K1I.69oui.69oui.69oui.62D2y.62D2y.62D2y.69rKo.69rKo.69rKo.69nBA.69nBA.62D36.62D36.62BLa.62BLa.62Ad0.62Ad0.65GMy.65GMy.69ous.69ous.65GMo
>>164736067
Actually, in higher ranks it is consider ruder NOT to forfeit when the game is clearly over.
You are just wasting your opponent's time in that situation.
Most people very much appreciate when their opponent forfeits in this situation rather than wasting another ten minutes.
>>164737305
maiden (boy)
>>164737309
>best nep deck
Nope
Who has a Degree in Memeology that can help me improve this Laelia deck?
When the flavor of the week Shadow end?
I literally prefer facing Daria or mirror Bats/Control decks all day rather then dealing with "lol random everything" all day
>>164737171
Gonna have to disagree and say that Amelia is basically a mini-aurelia.
>>164737104
This is cutest boy
>>164737305
>he doesn't know about Angel Maidens (Male)
>>164737037
what would be a decent replacement for cerb?
>>164737314
I'd remove Maid Leader, she is a card that can't contest anything on the board, for a deck thinner, I don't like her at all in this meta.
>>164737351
inb4, forfeit when aggro blood dropped yulius on the second turn
or you are rude!
>>164737403
>opponent plays cards that do things
>uh
>me... me go face?
>>164737441
>that torso
is she alright
>>164737478animated cerb
Should I dust my Dragonsong Flutes? I don't think they're useful in constructed
Veight should not have Ward
Most overstatted piece of shit in this expac
>>164737314
Most control lists don't run command, it's more of a mid card.
Fangblade is ok, but also could be cut.
Floral is falling out of favor for Teena, but that's kind of up to you.
>>164737480
>Cutting maid in control
Jesus Christ.
>>164737403
>unga bunga play on curve and go face talking shit
Are blood players the worst playerbase?
>>164737351
>Most people very much appreciate when their opponent forfeits in this situation rather than wasting another ten minutes
hell i even appreciate when my opponent forfeits to save me the effort of evolving blood wolf and dragging it to their face
>>164737558
Thats not Khawy
>>164737538
Use it to charge your JO Dragon
>>164737478
Necroassassin, Urd
In theory anyway
Some people have been dropping those two entirely
Like this guy
>>164729387
>>164737648
You know, I never actually considered that. it might be a really funny idea!
>mfw Bahamut Ramp against Shadow
>going first
>opponent didn't redraw
Ahhhh
Wow Face Dragon is surprisingly good
Master Seraph player here, I just subbed in damus over beast call. Is this really dumb or really smart?
>>164737581
>Most control lists don't run command, it's more of a mid card.
what the fuck do they use for wards instead
>>164737581
Alwida's Command isn't run in CSword? I see a lot of decks here using it, or maybe I'm just wrong?
>>164737773
>404
cool image dude
>>164737753
>going first
>opponent doesn't redraw
>no 1pp drops to be seen even after mulligan
>opponent drops ambling wraith/vanguard/fairy/sacred plea
>>164737523
Going face is and always will be the most efficent way to ranking up in this game
so, lord atomy is an old meme nobody bothers to play anymore when nepnep exists, and alexander is dropped from all the sword lists, so these two leggos are a safe fodder for vials, aren't they?
>>164737773
it's mindbreakingly easy and doesn't really break..
>>164737823
you tell us, master seraph player
what matchups are you trying to affect with it and what matchups will it hurt to not have aria in
>>164737836
Aurelia, Frontguard, White Paladin, Amelia's boy.
>>164737854
Some have it at 2, but no 3.
Purchased rune prebuild deck yesterday, crafted third merlin and holy shit this deck is satisfying. Btw fuck daria
>>164737836
I
WILL
ABIDE
Time to play Sword
>>164737897
Mene, why do you post Forte if that makes you look so damn bad?
>>164737773
>summon forte
>go face
Such skill.
>>164737857
It's not opening for me either, and I posted it.
>>164737897
alexander is still relevant since he costs only 8pp
>>164737989
what
>No Alberto
I just want to play Sword
>>164737994
>tfw you outskill Havenshitters who think they're smart but are really not
Tactically used Forte to go face and win the game
>>164737920
Blood aggro and Rune aggro. Against both I have to mull both since it is too slow. The other problem though is now my 30% win rate against d-shift has become a 0%. Naturally since the switch I have played against d-shift 3 times.
>>164737997
Its the Haven power, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ0Vr_ifHjw
>implying discard dragon isn't tier 2
>>164737970
>fuck daria
I wish I could.
>>164737920
The other issue is late game when I am trying to draw seraph or tribunal to survive, Priestess keeps pulling beastcall which has a very limited effect on the match.
blood prebuilt worth buying?
>>164737952
That sounds more like it. I think its crazy to get rid of Alwidas, the card is just that damn strong
New player here, what packs is it best to focus on buying first? Does it depend on what I wanna play or is there an optimal way of doing things?
IS thread pic kill? I can't open any
>>164737897
Atomy was never a control card so no. He doesn't really fulfill the same niche as Nepthys at all. Nepthys just enables Mordecais and Last Word dudes in general, Atomy is for sacking the ever loving shit out of people with an 8/8 summoned on turns 2-4.
>>164738149
Discard Dragon is the most inept deck I have ever seen in this game.
>>164738054
Your Forte broke the site. u happy?
>>164737612
It's a fair card.
>>164738249
>Does it depend on what I wanna play
this
>>164738149
It can honestly be pretty damn scary once it sets up and starts shitting Kaibas and Fortes at a nonstop rate but it's going to suffer in this meta filled with Daria, Bats, and rising Roaches that'll easily fuck it up before it can get set up. I'd keep an eye on it moving forward if the meta shifts to a bunch of Control trying to prey on those three though.
>>164738256
i didn't say it was a control card, did i?
i said it's an old meme card, afaik he was used with phantom howl
>>164738276
7PP Khawy is honestly just perfect for 8PP Odin
All pictures immediately 404
>>164738331
thought it was just me
>>164738276
Khawy last words are already broken giving it a ward on top of that is the biggest bullshit ever
If Shadow now keeps getting more popularity 3x Odins might become a stapple for literally every deck
>>164738247
Sort of. I think it's kind of weak right now in the aggro meta.
>>164738330
But odin isn't in the netdecks yet.
>>164738272
not mine, the first pic which couldn't be loaded for me it was this one >>164737773, also see the first answer >>164737857 two posts above mine
>>164738325
I should rephrase and say that they are different brands of "dumb shit". Mordecai was the "meme card" but Nepthys legitimizes him somewhat.
>>164738331
Appchan works fine
Name 1 (one) deck
>>164737121
Come to think of it, every game I played against Luna last night involved removal of at least 2 Mordecai every game.
I AM JUST TRYING TO FINISH MY SWORD DAILIES
STOP MATCHING ME AGAINST BETTER DECKS MY GOD
>>164738398
Anyone smart is using Odins while this Shadowcraft craze is going on right now. Doesn't hurt that Havenfags are around too
>>164738449
Dork Darugun
>>164738331
I'm not having any problems on my end, using 4chanx if it matters.
>>164731417
bungabats
>>164738449
Control Blood
>>164738449
Eidolon Control
blood prebuilt worth buying?
>>164738529
The best Blood deck doesn't use Blood legos, but if you want to meme with Control Blood sure
>>164738460
Nothing wrong with Haven players.
>>164738529
not for aggro blood
Hiro just stole our data, didn't him? Er Hehe
>>164737489
Sometimes I do tho.
>Odin is a good card
>Barrage is a good card
>Playing tech cards in 2017
Lmaoing at your bricks
>>164737594
Yeah I mean some people have carpal tunnel. You never know.
>>164738459
But control sword is doing just fine now
How do we save Bunbun?
>>164738149
If you get insanely lucky with it, it can shit all over you
Last faggot I played against hit all three of his luxfang kits with discard by fucking turn 4.
Is this any good? I got 3 of them and I don't know if it's better to liquefy them or to build a deck around them.
>>164738668
Makes hiroshima pay for them.
Art of the Ninja is a surprisingly good card
>>164738057
>most excited for daria in the new expansion
>get 3 alberts and 0 daria
I just want to play tempo rune.
>>164738648
Kind of hurts desu.
>Don't get odin when I need him
>Otherwise he's sitting in my hand taking up space and looking like a smug fucker
>>164738648
u wot m8
>>164729526
>balor
it's shit
>>164738668
holy shit her ass is massive
>enemy haven has 2 arias ready to pop
>tfw you drop 2 yurius
whats a control blood meme deck
>>164738712
Not that good when you just want to destroy something.
>>164738203
>>164738076
priestess bricking does sound painful
i don't know much about seraph haven but the thing about blood and rune is that early game when all they have 2/X creatures darius might as well be a Lizardman for all it accomplishes, and lategame while it doesn't die as effortlessly as a lizardman and hides behind other wards very effectively, it is not actually a hard ward which can be awkward if aggro decides to commit to not needing a board anymore to secure lethal
why not try some other awful card like surefire bullet? i see a lot of master rank players on misc streams running garbage cards like that, just look at rizer's nep list from earlier which runs soul hunt
Poor nepdecker tried to defend the last three life of his leader by putting a Khawy in play on turn 7. Little did he know, I had saved Levi and and my last EP for this exact situation.
>>164738712
It's pretty solid card on its own. Not a big surprise that it is playable in control sword. Myself run 2 copies of this in my deck. I'm B3 scrub though so might my opinion is worth nothing
>>164738149
>They play the 3/4 discard 2 cards dragon
>Laughing balanced man of exile
fangblade is TOOOOO good
>>164738487
>>164738449
5500 Power Liches
>>164738773
Best Haven girl
I tried running her in Eidolon but she doesn't really get much done. Styling on people with Soul Collector has been fun on occasion though. I might add her back.
>>164738701
It's alright. I don't think it's a strictly bad card like Skullfane, he's actually pretty dangerous if left unchecked. I think it's a card that will get better with time, but damn if it isn't fun and packing the best art in the set.I fucking hate Hare of Illusions and I kind of want to cut the thing entirely.
>>164738662
I can't afford even half of that yet, Sword is my unluckiest class regarding pulls
>>164738648
>he doesn't run AB in JO dragon
Literally why.
>>164738712
The "summon an unplayable card" cards were the best fucking idea of the set.
Too bad my boy Sentry has a conditional fanfare so he wont get such love.
>>164738912
>Best Haven girl
objection!
>>164738912
>new card
>best haven
Lol look at this heretic.
>look at Game-AI tier list
>Tier 1 is DShift, Tempo Rune and Aggro Vampire
>Tier 2 is everything else thats played
What an interesting time we live in
>>164738157
Who is this semen demon?
>>164738854
>Mfw I run Dream Rabbit into Pyroxene Dragon just so I can Blackened Scripture it and leave Rowen high and dry.
>>164738984
Go jerk your horn off to the moon somewhere.
>>164739000
Name one better
>>164738949
As much as I like those bargain spells, you will be salty too if you are me.
>>164738797
Trying out snake priestess, now. I think you might be right about damus. I still think it is a powerful card with a lot of potential though.
>>164738938
Tell me about Jojo dragon.
>>164738712
Not really.
>Control BloodHe conceded immediately
>>164739002
RoB is getting balanced around "What fucks up TempoRune?"
>>164739002
I strongly believe Combo Elf will be bumped up to T1 shortly
>>164739112
Oh yeah, absolutely.
>>164739112
it is so dirty
>>164739076
Post dick?
That looks like my old control blood pre-RoB, but I haven't tried that out as the new cards really support a slower control blood.
However that type of deck seems to have died completely with shadow and dragon gaining the ability to completely shit on you in the control matchup.
>>164739112
cucked by wards
>>164739112
Seraph as well.
>>164738824
>when they put up the Khawyz and it's a perfect target for my Wolf to suicide into
>>164729526
seems pretty standard up to and including the 2nep 3mord split that's all the rage to play around odin
running more minions at 6 instead of death's breath seems like a reasonable choice against mirrors, too, when you're running a lich package for potential beats
my only problem with it is it's not as cute as some of the other lists; 8 draw cards, 6 lich cards, 5 LW activators, 7 beefy taunts, 5 finishers, 9 cheap removal, the end, 16k vials thank you and good night
>>164739169
>>164739076
Controlling opponents face, huh?
>>164739076
it doesn't sound very control
Just got off from a game where opponent play 3 bahamut+1 genesis and got me really close to lethal. Basically themis and tribunal is the MVP of that match that saved me, it's been a long time since I had a close and long game like this. WP dragonbro whoever you are
>discard dragon is literally worse than a memedeck without followers
>>164739045
Her counterpart.
>>164739218
do you think matriarch is a staple or can be safely dusted?
>>164739249
Oh,and olivia too since she refilled my evo for the final use of baldman.
>>164739035
Her name is Plumeria, also that guy did the art for Beastcall Aria.
>>164739294
I disagree but she gets respect for the hotpants.
>>164739218
Huh, that is eerily close. Though I'd think about maybe cutting a signle mary and a single angel for 2x Alucards.
4-6dmg on turn 7 could really win that game, especially with a more aggressive list.
>>164739294
btw, is luxhorn sarissa a unicorn or yet another rabbit?
>>164739327
Matriarch isn't a staple,m but it's a very good card and if the meta even hints at leaning towards Sword, you need to throw in 2, no mnatter. I wouldn't dust it.
>>164739076
Controlling what ? Just another braindead aggro to me.
REMINDER THAT ELANA PRAYERS DESERVE A HORRIBLE DISGUSTING DEATH REEEE
>>164738949
>ninja master
>unplayable
T5 ninja master evolve on the play is among the most pleasurable things I've ever done in this game
just pass turn and watch them squirm while they try to figure out how to avoid impending lethal
certainly outclassed in aggro sword now by albert, but pre-rise it was pretty amusing
>>164739394
I'd too, it's actually Kaguya.
Cygames has tasked you to come up with a Forest archetype which doesn't use roaches.
After waiting 30 minutes in the lobby, your name is called. This is what you tell the distinctly Jewish looking members of the board of directors...
If you dc in unranked you're a shitter.
>>164739327
Matriarch is a good card, but the meta is bad for her right now.
She's not effective against the current shadow, dragon, and haven decks and she's too slow against combo forest unless you make your deck much more aggressive and use her as a finisher.
She completely stomps on sword, slower forest, and token decks though. It's just that those are dead at the moment.
Why is it called JO dragon?
Where do you get the' JO' from?
>>164739451
controlling the swarm of the bats!
they are mischievous little ones too!
>>164739497
>Hydra
>>164739564
That is a card that I held onto for a while because of how pretty it is despite it being one of the worst cards in the game.
>>164738712
It is a good card since the meta is about board control and tempo now. No one actually uses it for enhance, just a nice 3pp 4 damage removal.
>>164739497
He is clearly playing the prebuilt deck. congrats on beating a brand new player.
>>164739425
I believe they're all rabbitfolk.
How to fix Luxhorn Sarrisa
Effect changed from can only take 3 damage in a single instance of damage
to
Can only be dealt 3 damage per turn
>>164739327
It used to be blood's most anticipating card pre RoB since its their big fuck you to t6 otomeme.
But then otomeme got shit on by almost everything post RoB and nobody played her anymore,soooooo yeah.
do we liquify animated legendaries that are crap? I have fairy princess and mythril golem animated. ;_;
>>164739596
Jack off, look at the 5 mana crystal art.
>>164739440 >>164739593 >>164739659
i see, ty
i will keep her then...
>>164739596
pic related
>>164739642
well, it's likely, i don't see sarissa having any tail like unica
What's smugger than one Nep?
>>164739218
You sure about hungering horde?
It just seems real lackluster due to a lack of targets to snipe.
Token decks are basically dead and the most common shit to be played in bulk are gazers and liches, both of which dodge it with 4hp.
>>164739394
Oh man Beastcall Princess is 10/10
>>164739758
>cerb in a nep deck
>When this happen in mirror
>>164739637
How can you tell?
>>164739664
i do
that's easy 2500 vials
>>164739816
>Going second
Enjoy your loss unless he bricks
>>164739810
>Not running Cerb in every Shadow deck
>>164739834
Well it is extremely unnatural to put the tiger card in a Elena deck, also, it is the card back you get from the set.
>>164739637
what is his sleeves?
Is it even possible for Gamepress to come back from the image it currently has?
What steps could they take to make it a respectable site?
>>164739880
i wanna cum on that cute face
>>164739218
>temptress vampire
i hate her so much
>>164739603
She's not so bad, I still picking her whenever I can in t2.
>>164729205
>Play game after the expansion
>Literally everyone and their mothers is using Daria
>You're always dead by turn 5 and sometimes even 4 unless you got some godlike aggro hand
Fun balanced game you guys got here
I'll definitely take hearthstone over this
>>164739772
death's breath
also perfectly fine single-target
>>164739586
An archetype that creates that are meant to be used repeatedly, but aren't cheap enough to be spammed to buff roach. Perhaps a version of First Curse that starts at a lower number but can be recast every turn and never goes away.
>>164739834
>Beastly Vow
There is no point.I ran Beastly Vow as a one of in Storm Haven pre-DE, didn't regret it whatsoever.
Tsubaki's sweaty butt
>>164739939
>elana
>prebuilt cardback
I am not sure if I should laugh or be sad about this. I will just laugh it off.
>>164739772
It's a preference choice. There's nothing good or bad about using it. For me, it's 3 damage for 2 cost on anything, the same card effect is a bonus. Use whatever you want in that slot. Like Diabolic Drain. Also, don't use Righteous Devil at all.
>>164740030
>losing turn 4 to a deck that has no turn 1
Remenber Swordfags.
You get t2ed.
I HAVE FOUND THE WAY
>>164739862
Had to do something strange...."trading" i think it's calledIf he had a Razon, an Imp, a DStrik , a DStorm, a Dark General, an earlier Blood Wolf or even a second DoD it would have been lost
>>164740059
What the fuck. Real cerberus??
>>164739939
but elana runs veteran tamer
>it is the card back you get from the set
are you sure? afaikm it gives jeanne and it doesn't look as jeanne
Why is the game so hard now? Even if I'm playing a netdeck optimally with the cards I am given every turn the opponent just has better tempo
>>164740030
>saying that when everything that i met is control sword,blood and shadow.
Ok guys i'm at AA where i can fin these fast matches?
>>164740234
Please trade with me, I beg you
I want to find matches that last more than 5 seconds against cancer daria
>>164740232
netdecks are not what you should actually use, but instead base your decks off of
>>164740084
yeah, it also doesn't give elane whatsoever, it gives garuda, moon bunny etc
>up to three instances of a class that no one uses
Who made these images? Swordfags who still believe their class is still relevant?
>>164740319
>>>>>hybrid witch
nice tier 4 deck there
>>164740319
Autistics who doesn't actually play this game, of course.
>Open up 3 Eidolon of Memes, 2 Neps, 2 Bahamuts, 3 White Wolf
>Still no Albert or Daria
I just want to play sword damn it, give me my fucking Alberts
>>164740319
>aggro vampire
>queen vampire face
ok i guess
>>164740319
All of these tier lists are contradictory
>>164740319
>Using English name for Dorothy
>Using Japanese name for classes
>Calling it Hybrid when Japanese just call it Dorothy
>Calling it Daria Witch when Japanese just call it Tempo
Is Nep Shadow actually good
>>164740395
>get 3 Albertos 3 Bahamuts 4 Matriarchs 4 Dragoons
>0 neps or white wolves
>>164740319
Control Sword isnt that bad.
Midrange doesnt belong that high in T2 though, its worse than Control.
>>164740146
Idk what are you talking about. The only disappointing thing is the need to play against darias till their decks are empty.
So which of the new RoB cards are even worth using for Forest Cancer? I'm looking at them, but can't see anything that could dethrone Ancient Elf/Tia/Roaches/Cynthia/Windmeme God.
>>164740319
So tired memes about Sword being dead aside, I'm honestly pretty surprised lists (both gamewith and game-ai) are still listing Midrange Blood as T2 even though there have been way more lists and results for Control and Aggro with very few going for the in between.
>>164740458
The order doesn't make any difference, it's lined up according to the order of leaders/classes.
>>164740232
Maybe because you aren't playing well. There is a lot of things that you should consider when playing like what your opponent can do and what other options may appear for them the next turn. Simply playing on curve is a mistake sometimes and you should save the cards in your hand during choice moments.
New to Nepmeme. Any changes?
>>164740439
Both dorothy and daria need to kill themselves for being cancerous cunts
>>164740232
>Even if I'm playing a netdeck optimally
you're not playing optimally i assure you
master rank players operate substantially different from random schlubs and while part of that is having to adapt to master meta (which is not aa meta which is not a meta) a lot of that is playstyle by which i mean player skill
insofar as the game is getting harder over time and you're not just imagining it based on one off day, it's because the playerbase is refining its play faster than you are
or, y'know, the game is so hard now because you ranked up to a harder mmr, that's also possible
>>164740428
Gameai is generally the one that people trust the most.
>>164740458
Unless you pack 3 odin, Nep just eats you alive.
>Forest
>new RoB card
Goblin Mage and Feena
Literally the only RoB cards used by Forest right now
Wow, Azazel in T2 is just lulzy.
People have no answer for it.
>>164740439
>being an autist with shit oponions
>>164740542
They use Selwyn's Command for the extra face damage too.
>>164740319
what's arcane witch?
>>164740520
run necroassassin baka
>>164740542
Desperate Forestfag, only because you're not t1 anymore? at least shadow,dragon and blood can play the game now.
>>164740578
sometimes even felpurr
>>164740592
dirt rune
Whats interesting there is no dshift on the list
>>164740614
also the 3/2 rush
>>164740535
But you are already dead by turn 8. If it didn't happen for some reason ( like you are a lucky boy) Albert will come to save the day
>>164740575
They should at least be consistent with how they name things.
And the naming for those decks will just create confusion in general with how they decided to translate them
>>164740491
>playing aggro shadow
>they can't do a thing about the shadow reaper
>playing nep shadow
>khawy makes frontguard general his bitch
Coming from a shadow player, Sword just doesn't seem much of a threat for me these days unless I brick exceptionally hard.
>>164740319
This is legit the only accurate Tier List I have seen so far. Why is GameAI so based?
>>164740535
No shit a deck has bad matchups. Maybe thats why its in T2
>>164740604
Stupid GobuRoach is tier1
>>164740660
Good luck breaking through Khawy and the army of zombies.
Talk me out of running Vampire Lykos in aggro blood.
I finally did it
>>164740676
Mad that your reverse shit didn't work?
>>164740705Im just memeing desu all the classes have a t1 deck now
need help, pls.
51364
i'm fine with killing you if you need the achievement.
>>164740667
All the deck names are pretty clear tho
>>164740520
can you upload a webm of animated nep nep, pls? i'd like to see what i'm missing out on.
>>164740751
dick
>>164740491
I think it's cause Control Blood is basically dead right now. The real popular decks atm take a big dump all over it. So people who want to do blood but not aggro are switching over to MR as it has better matchups.
>>164739946
its fine if you use the information carefully
>>164740319
Why is sun satan not on the list if it beats the tier 1 decks?
Just survived through 5 turns of a haven player's apocalypse deck and won as control blood. I fucking love this deck.
>>164740676
GameAI is the basedest. Also is that a bulge? What the fuck, anon?
At what rank do I start to see despair on ladder? Just started recently and things have been pretty smooth.
>>164730201
It's not getting points that's the problem in AA, it's the going up and down, up and down in ranking constantly before you miraculously hit a winstreak that lets you climb a bit before you get forced into limbo again.
>>164740845
Control Blood has an advantage agaist AggroBlood
>>164740667
I'm pretty sure you're just autistic. And not to mention straight up wrong. People, both over in Japan and in the west, interchangeably argue over whether Daria decks should be called Tempo or Aggro so it's reasonable to just cut the difference and call it Daria since everyone understands what that means unless it's hybrid DShift/Daria which is, well, labelled as Hybrid.
>>164740845
Everything you just said is wrong.
>>164740754
??? what?
I already get 2000 points in ladder and claimed the sleeves. Why they don't not appear in the 'change' option decks?
>>164740751
GJ anon
>>164740762
thank you, vampy-chan
>>164740653
>Whats interesting there is no dshift on the list
hybrid witch is dshit
the game-ai page lists transcendental witch as the second tier 1 deck, but the link goes to a decklist with daria
>>164740869
A and AA are hell
>>164740869
May your despair become your liberationAA
Can I still use Bannermemes for my dailies? I haven't updated it with any new cards (don't have Albert either).
>>164740906
>2000 points
That's for the emblem.
Emblem != sleeve
>>164740891
Yes but look at what is being played right now.
Nep Shadow
and that thing takes Control Blood's ass so hard it isn't even funny.
>>164730741
Why would you disconnect over two fire lizards?
>>164740865
>GameAI is the basedest.
Just because they leak shit? Here my spoon.
https://sv.j-cg.com/compe/view/match/125/29163/
JCG Vol.47-A Finals.
Winner was PtP Forest+Dshift, click leader icons for portal link.
>>164740838
I didn't save it but I got 2 alberts and 2 fangblades
>play ramp dragon and banner all the way up to A0
>fucking tired of ramp bricking and banner just being cheesy shit
>have enough cards for daria rune
>start playing it
>even if i bricking i have fun, games go easy and fast
>>164740930
I mean no pure dshift. Hybrid is obviously a combination of daria and dshift
>>164740980
Not if they start packing on Odin.:^)
>>164740975
Oh i see thanks
>>164740963
Ahahahahaif the oppoenent brick, Bannermeme is tier3 borderline tier4 right nowCheapest viable Sword deck runs 6 golds and 3Alberto
>>164740520
Take out Impious and put in Necroassassin you baka. Also, don't use Pact, use Seargeant, he's a 2 drop and can helkp build up your early shadows since Foul Tempest needs to be able to go off early against Tempo Rune. If it gets popped by Nep, it's okay since you're mainly going for Khawy and Mord. Giving up a lil bit of value from Nept is okay if it means your early/mid game is good.
>>164740894
>People, both over in Japan and in the west, interchangeably argue over whether Daria decks should be called Tempo or Aggro so it's reasonable to just cut the difference and call it Daria
>should we call an aggroshitter deck what it is, or euphemize it by using the word tempo
>i know, let's completely euphemize it and elide the facerush nature of the deck by calling it daria, the same way we fooled people into thinking of ptp elf as a patrician combo deck instead of a roach rush
hurr
Should I craft a second Pascale for my dirtrune deck?
>>164740845
>>164740891
Yeah what the fuck? Control blood shits on aggro blood and does pretty well against Daria rune.
>>164740991
No, mainly because of their decklists which are actually tested by master players, which is apparently too much to ask for from any of the English sites. Also as >>164740676 said this is actually a good tierlist.
Can i see an hybird DShift Daria list?
Looks more fun than pure Daria and i need a Rune deck anyways
>>164740963
No, it's pure shit now. You're better going aggro Sword. Also, the deck isn't cheap anymore. You need 3 Alberts.
>>164741007
Now it's understandable for me.
>>164740204
I still don't get the logic behind that fucking vet tamer in elana at all. Seen that list since day 1 and to me I'd rather have a fucking way to survive the early onslaught of bats and daria instead of some retard 4/4 that come online 2 turn later at t4.
>>164741006
https://twitter.com/kingsouma123/status/817302630665895936
Winner's tweet.
I got 3 alberts but I don't know what to do with him. he's a commander so I don't think I want him in my banner deck which is apparently shit tier now anyway. do I still need otomeme for commander sword?
>>164741145
Oto is shit as well.
>>164741098
1 Pascale is debatable already too much for Dirtrune
>>164740204
>no wards
>>164740845
Control Blood is good right now wtf? It's not Tier 1, but it's good. It beats all the current Tier 1 decks right now, but it loses other Tier 2s so it can't be considered Tier 1, no matter.
>tfw yesterday i crafted 1 olivia
I'm still happy now i have the emblem also is there any deck with 2 olivia? maybe something with Sahaquiel?
>>164740963
You can but is not easy anymore.
I'm using that list
>>164741176
D rank?
Can I make some deck with these legendaries?
>>164741145
Scrap the banner
Could also tell you to vial Otohime too but i would wait on that
>>164740458
>>164740491
Midsword isn't worse than control stop that shit. Unless you use the old list maybe.
Uhh, just what is OTK Elf weak and strong against?
How long until this Shadowmeme disappears, I'd like more variety on ladder instead of playing against 1 deck for half my games
>>164741198
i thought you didn't get emblems for crafted stuff
>>164741006
>PtP Forest
0 rise of bahamut cards
>Dshift
2 copies of piercing rune
great expansion cygames it has a lot of fun cards i'm glad it changed the meta
>>164741060
Alright, thanks!
>>164741132
>admits his lists aren't interesting at all
kek
>>164741198
Control Sword and Dragon use it.
>>164741221
It's only blood right? but if you want you can make 2 bloody mary and a ton of golds doing a t2 control blood.
If you are new make a aggro blood is more profitable
>>164741198
Control sword can run 2 olivia and Alexander is kinda essential there
>>164741245
but just a few days ago you complained about there being too much rune
You know,with the amount of nep bandwagons,elanas,seraphs,and dragontards running around right now I'm pretty surprised the cancer that is d.shift still hasn't awoken from its slumber.
>>164741006
https://twitter.com/Spicies_/status/817303740956844033
Runner up's tweet.
>>164741239
Weak against anything that runs a lot of wards.
Strong against anything else.
>>164741316
But Daria and Aggro Blood murder DShift.
Is Elana Seraph still good?
>>164741049
It still does shit on control blood, even with Odin. I'm running 1 Odin right now but sadly there are 2-3 Mordecais and the Shadow player has a very high chance of drawing them since they get come out whether they're pulled from Nep or drawn. Thinking about teching in another Odin since I've been seeing a decent amount of Seraph but that could hurt other match-ups too much. The best way I've found to beat them is get a 2 drop into Veight and go face really hard. (Don't trade much, use evolves on face, etc.) This is in AA by the way.
>>164741245
but mu daria and aggro batThis nep ting make everyone realiza that is these 2 matches are not impossibleSasuga cygames
>>164741314
And there's less now which is nice.
Now I'd like Shadow to fuck off too. I'm fine with them being meta now but not in this quantity
>>164741234
is this the new aggro list? I don't have any otohimes and only one saber so I didn't know if I could make any non-banner decks.
>>164741245
Nepmeme is fresh
It will be gone in few days, i prefer facing Darias all day too
Shadow randomness is just annoying to deal with
constantly
>>164741314
a few day ago Nep was in maintenance. Also, it's a complaint about seeing the same deck over and over, not whether or not that it's broken or some shit.
>>164741092
>This stale "Too intelligent for aggro" meme
>>164741316
>bandwagon
How is a lot of people wanting to play a card that was stuck in maintenance for a week bandwagoning?
>>164741381
That list is the cheapeast viable Sword deck you can run right now
3 Alberto or don't bother
>>164741006
>>164741329
>rune & forest
>rune & forest
Such variety!
>>164741262
It's funny beacause if anyone used Bahamut PtP would be fucked then D-shift would be fucked because you can aggro it,
>>164741251
I didn't get if from the yesterday craft but from today pack
>>164741304
>>164741294
Thanks i also have 2 alex i'll look for a list
>>164741381
thats just old face sword with albertos added in
>>164741404
People here are dumb and want to feel special.
>>164741198
dirt rune
>>164741442
The lists for their respective matching classes are completely different, you know.
>>164741509
Tell me the odds of two players having the same 2 classes combination out of 7 classes.
>>164741221
Yes, make control blood. You need some other legendaries and golds though. At the very least you want 2 bloody marys, 2 temptress vampires, 3 revelations, and 3 dire bond. There's also midrange blood but I don't know too much about that.
>>164741371
Problem is those odins really hurt your gameplan against other decks, as they're a super dead card in many other matchups.
Neptits shadow does bad things to control blood.
>>164741124
Dshift with 3 daria 3 ogler 3 blade mage
>>164741239
>>164741352
weak against pretty much just shadow with death's breath and can sometimes get aggro'd down by aggro bats.
>>164741570
Yeah, that's the problem. I'm fine running 1 odin since I hate losing to Seraph too but any more than that is too much probably.
>>164741442
>>164741006
F-Forest is dead right guise?
>going first
When I win you feel like it is because I was lucky on the draws.
>going second
When I win you feel like I made the right moves.
Ever since the replay feature was out, I have been analyzing my games. I have found that in games where I go first, very often winning were not possible with the given hands if I play conservatively, and most of the time I won through clutch draws of key cards.
My conclusion: it is more important to gamble more and makes moves assuming you will draw he cards you want when you go first.
Agree or disagree?
>>164741724
There's only one truth when it comes to going first or second. going second is better always, unless you're in a mirror match.
>>164741109
There's no english site after all. But that new tier list is hardly news outside of dorothy or unique to game-ai. People was able to come up with those in this thread. Get the 3 most annoying decks right now and throw everything else to tier 2. Such work.
>>164741786
>being 1 mana behind the whole game is always better
confirmed D rank shitter
>>164741998
If I'm going against daria cancer then I always want to be second so they dont get an extra evo point and two more cards
>>164741998
>having an extra evolution point is bad
t. B-shitter
>>164741554
1/21?
>win my first fucking pick-two after a losing streak of every game
>the limpdick little faggot disconnected so hard it fucked the match and we both got hit with a loss/disconnect
Oh my fucking god just take the L.
I was making consistent progress before but I've been stuck in A0 since RoB came out
>>164741998
>not playing dragon and being 5pp ahead
H-HEAAAR
>>164734867
I might have been addicted to forest
>>164742228
cygames was kind enough to narrow down the tier 1 decks to just 2
you have to play daria or bats to climb now
>>164724426
Yeah, and what do you play?
>>164741198
2 Olivia is pretty solid for any deck you don't have your list yet
>>164741316
I ran into a lot of dshift from old dshifters picking up daria. It's pretty ruanchy
>>164741404
>muh acute feelings
Wow,and here I thought this place couldn't get any fucking lower. Need me to get you nursery number too ? For future reference ?
>>164740030
Git gud.
Coming from other card games, I can only laugh at you weeb fags.
Everyone tries to tell HS fags how SV is better, with less RNG and more free shit.
But hey, guess what: Considering weebs are subhuman trash, this game is already capped in regards of player base.
>b-but muh waifu
I think it's great that ex-MTG players are devs on a card game now instead of HS' Team 5 but that fact is just thrown out the window if you take this kind of obnoxious style.
>inb4 hurr durr who cares what it looks like if it plays better, just ignore it
Implying someone would play this game if it had an MLP style overhaul.