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>Oasis | New Map Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhVZ-QIu4jk

>Live Patch Notes
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20752488691

>Overwatch Dev Tracker
http://www.overstalk.io/

>Convert source mouse sensitivity
https://jscalc.io/calc/djyxBymfcWCIgD4f

>Stats and Leaderboards
https://masteroverwatch.com
https://overbuff.com/

>Competitive Info
http://gosugamers.net/overwatch
http://over.gg/

>Discord:
https://discord.gg/Mzpx4Yh

>Permalink
https://owg.pleb.pl

Previously:
>>164687857
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Everyone laugh at D.Vababs and Anafags
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Sombra
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Worthless healer general
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Tracer!
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I love you, Junkrat!
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Guys, explain me one thing: i am playing soldier, they have pharah, my job is to kill pharah, right? But how the fuck is this possible when her hitbox (according to her and mine position on the map) is half of a fucking pixel on my screen, and whenever this bitch is taking damage she instantly flies to the nearest building or gets fucking burst healed by this broken ass fuck ana. And remember, i have only 4 bullets of hitscan, so i basically need to keep absolute brilliant bullet control and also need to hit fucking shots for around 3-5 seconds straight. Just how it can be done? Oh and when i'm busy killing rein shields or killing some other shit this bitch flanks and wipes my team with ult in 0.0000000001 second, and it's my fucking fault, ok.


repost from previous thread
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>not putting a system change like the wheels in already
C'mon it's such a quality of life feature just put it in already, what is there to bug test?
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young punks
get off my lawn
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D.VA IS LIKE FUCKING PAPER NOW
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bost waifus
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My goal is to solo q out of gold.

15 hours played so far, 55% win rate climbed from 2016 to 2246.

Will i be able to do it?

I play support and tank.
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>>164707676
For the love of god, if anyone is trying to get to rank one.
Let me party up with you.

Im on 30 minute penalty cd's counting and matchmaking is pairing me up with people who can carry a game 3 v 5...
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>>164707435
pls respond
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where can i read the new ptr patch?
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>Be on the floating payload cart
>Enemy rein ults
>I get stunned
>Even though I am on a floating cart not touching the ground

Balanced
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>>164707676
>when your pharo sucks ass but their pharo is a god
>when you are rinehart and watch our team get slaughtered left and right because they are getting out played so hard
>when you get play of the game but still lose the game
>when the loudest retard on mic is the worst player
>when your team doesn't wait to group up but throws themselves into the fight one by one
>when they ignore the objective and chase one hero way off the map for the kill
>when your mercy gets sniped right next to you

What am I missing?
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>>164707773
I'm afraid the Ana nerf is not enough

D.va seems pretty gutted though which is good, Defence Matrix was a mistake
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>>164707773
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>>164707948
>>164707773
What happened? Did D.va get finally get nerfed? Was the impossible made possible?
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D.va is a slut
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>>164707893
Learn to lead your target. Steady burst fire. Ask your team's Ana to help pick her off.
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>>164707502
the ping will probably ruin you

then again, I sometimes encounter BR fags who must have like a 150 ping
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>>164707963
>having a slut as a wiafu
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How do i play raiden? i want to hit people with my weeb stick
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>>164708025
I actually realised if you remove tears from the pick it will look like this animu girl is participating in some spicy ol' hentai.
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I JUST STARTED TO PLAY D.VA, BLIZZARD .
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>>164708059
yeah she will be trash when the patch hits
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>>164707773
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>>164707676
>4 threads a day
>90% of the posts are the same waifu images and the name of said waifu
It's time to stop
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>>164707995
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Helix International security chief
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>>164708109
>not having a healslut waifu
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>>164708059
Reduced armour and dmg

She's finished, everyone rips her apart now
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>>164707893
Don't take it personally when your special school of a team blames you if you're soldier and they have a good pharah. Pharah's who position themselves well tend to not die to soldiers just casually picking them off.

Having a soldier on the team doesn't mean the enemy Pharah is going to be spending 100% of her time in the spawn room. If there's a really good pharah though, hunt her. Make sure before you do other stuff that Pharah isn't about to swoop in.

Sometimes it doesn't matter though. You won't be able to get an angle on her without stepping into spam, or she'll surprise you from a weird angle and pick you off.

When both you AND her are doing it right, though, she won't be dying but you'll be keeping her off the team enough. Oftentimes your team will just get out of position, and with her jetpack Pharah is very good at wiping people out of position.
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>>164707965
>prego
Finally someone posts a good fetish.
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>>164708025
You forgot

>when your team doesn't coordinate their or share the % ready

Also know as the

>when your ults ready and you out of spawn and hear "fire at will!"
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>implying this patch will affect the tank meta at all
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Why are we happy at D.va nerfs

they nerfed the best s76 counter

I only they had enrfed both dva and soldier
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>>164708254
She's still literally the hardiest tank
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>>164707435
Repostan in new
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>nerf the actual fun and interesting characters in the game
>keep everything else broken as shit
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So when is Reaper getting buffs so he can see use again?
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>your country
>your main
>your waifu/husbando

UK
Roadhog
Sombra
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>>164708214
this general is utter fucking garbage 98% of the time just like the main subreddit

i'm going to fucking explode and mom is gonna freak if i see one more "remember to thank your healers :)" or "please stay behind rein shield!!" post upvoted on the front page with hundreds of commends echoing the same fucking retarded shit

oh and if someone posts some fucking useless "tip" that everyone should know and on top of that people thank the guy for informing them. maybe a thread about the fact that genji's dash resets from elims or that mei can destroy her wall by pressing E again. something along those lines and i'm going to let it all go
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>>164708402
>dva
>fun
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>>164708402
Ana will still be fine. Fuck D.Va though, whats so interesting about her? Literally zero risk involved when playing her.
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>>164708378
And she goes down like a Thai hooker

All the tanks are too weak in this game
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>>164708232
>being a cuckhold
Good thing you'll never have a chance to spread your recessive genes.
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i just want a meta where more then 1/4 of the heroes are viable
is that too much to ask
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>>164708059
They replaced 200 armor with Health instead.
Seems pretty fair to me.
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>>164708184
>>164708254
YES FUCKING FINALLY

>>164708402
FUCK YOU DVAKEK
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>>164708456
NA
Zarya and Lucio
Winston
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>>164708497
>whats so interesting about her?

She acts like a cute gamer girl.
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>>164708360
m-more? doesn't even have to be d.va
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>>164708456
Canada
Junkrat
Symmetra
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>>164708456
Russia
Reinhardt/Zarya
Sombra


ayyyy
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>>164708513
would you rather your waifu wear a burkha anon?
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>>164708461
PSA: Redditors are Faggots
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>>164708314
soldier doesn't need to kill pharah but if you constantly burst her down to like 30% hp everytime she jetpacks up and tries to shoot a few rockets she has to fall down and get healed, then you are already doing your job and limiting her impact
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>>164708461
remember to thank your healers
:)
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>>164708593
Who should it be?
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>>164708456
Germany
Reinhardt
D.Va
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>>164708402
SUICIDE
WATCH
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Source for nerfs? Patch notes don't say shit.
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I think they fucked up and gave the spread reduction to dva instead of sombra
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>>164708456
>ameriga
>zarya
>gengo
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>>164708579
>acts

She IS a cute gamer girl. I don't get why she's cockasian though.
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>>164708560
>>164708717

No one cares about your shit as hero. Stay salty.
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>>164708732
Everything is in the PTR patch notes.
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>>164708693
anyone so long as she's THICC
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>>164708456

Canada
Junkrat
Mccree
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>>164708849
Hey bud fuck you. There's room for only one junkrat main in this country
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>>164708732
The launcher when you set it to PTR.
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>>164708456
Mexico
Sombra
Sombra
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>>164708461
please stay behind rein shield!
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Why is the current meta so shit?
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>>164708402
Huh? Which one did they nerf of Genji/Widow/Tracer/McCree/Soldier/Pharah/Reaper/Hanzo/Sombra?
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>>164708956
Too bad most reins charge at the slightest sight of the enemy tank

>>164708978
The meta has always been shit
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>>164708878

Not my fault if we have good tastes
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How the fuck are you D.va mains so oblivious to how op your hero was. These nerfs are perfect.
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>>164708456
>belgium
>reinhardt
>dva

>>164708708
my man
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>>164708402
They nerfed Junkrat?
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>>164708456
Brazil
Zennyatta
D.Va
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>>164709018
That koth meta of 2x lucio 2x zen 2x tracer was pretty fun and fast-paced even if it was repetitive

In general all the metas with dive comps were fairly fun. Man I miss the days of playing Tracer and Genji with a Harmony Orb on me that would last forever not limited by LoS.
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>>164709137
Lucio detected
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>>164709030
Okay I can't argue with that
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>>164708456
US
Reinhardt
Pharah
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>>164709043
why does my waifu look like a nigger
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>>164708456
US
Mercy
Pharah
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>>164709040
They are mad because the hero is trash now


why should anyone pick her instead of zarya now?
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>>164708901
>10% damage decrease
>armor halved
>can no longer 1v1 any viable heroes
I didn't know Bliz hated her so much.
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>>164708848
One more then
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>>164709235
shut up fag
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>>164709270
Because Zarya can't fly.
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>>164709235
jeez dude put that gun down
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>0.8 second hacks
Is Sombra actually good now?
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>>164709395
and?
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>>164709040
Whenever I come across players who now are like over 1000 SR higher than their season 2 highest D.Va is almost always in their top2 most played

So they are just butthurt their autopilot free wins hero won't net them free wins anymore and they will descend back to where they belong
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DAILY REMINDER: TRYING TO RANK UP BY WINNING GAMES IS A FLAWED STRATEGY. YOU SHOULD INSTEAD PAD YOUR STATS AT THE EXPENSE OF WINNING.

THAT IS ALL
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>>164709426
Does it take less than 0.8 seconds to shoot her?
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>those people that got the golden gun for soldier just because he's viable now

disgusting
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I dont like and dont play tracer anymore because of her being a degenerate. Is that a good thing to do?
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>>164709198
Meh, rather play Mercy. Lucio doesn't feel Brazilian at all, I'll die before I hear someone saying "HMM, I'M CRAVING FOR SOME ICE HOCKEY".
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How do people feel about the heroes from their respective countries?

How do Russians feel about Zarya?
How do the Chinese feel about Mei?
How do Koreans feel about D.Va?
How do Brits feel about Tracer?
How do BRs feel about Lucio?
etc. etc.
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I really want Widow to tweak and tease my nipples with her fingers and even her tongue until I shoot cum all over, hands free!
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Roadhog didn't need any changes, it was only shitters complaining too much

Prove me wrong, you can't
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>>164709557

HOLD UP

The system tracks your stats relative to other players of the same heroes?

WHY?
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Why can't they just remove Eishitwald from the map pool
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>>164709634
It's good for you to go back to /pol/ Stormfag
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>>164708456
Aus
Lucio but Zen has been fun lately
Mccree
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>>164709557
So it's better to rack up kills than win?
Why, Blizzard?
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>>164709767
It's a fix not a nerf/buff

It both helps him in certain situations and harms him in others
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>>164709750
>How do BRs feel about Lucio?

>>164709705
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>>164709789
BECAUSE BLIZZARD HAS BEEN AN INCOMPETENT COMPANY FOR 15 YEARS
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Hey you! Yes you!
You can do it! That thing on your mind right now? Go do it! Don't have anything on your mind? Go get something to do and work towards it every day! Want to get those flicks as McCree? Start with those flashbang headshots! Run 5 km? Start with running down your street today, and work your way up! Bench a lot of weight? Start with little, and work your way up! Believe in yourself, friend.
Never give up! Never surrender!
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>>164709750
>How do Canadians feel about Lucio?
ftfy
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>>164709750
I don't know why they even made Lucio Brazilian. Has no accent, speaks no lines in Portuguese, he may as well be a typical black American or more accurately Canadian since he likes hockey
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>>164709750
I hate tracer, she makes me cringe whenever I hear her speak
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>>164708073
D.va pleases old men for money ohohohohoho
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>leave a match when it ends but before it says Victory or Defeat
>get suspended

Why
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>>164709767

The hook was pretty broken. Not meta-warping powerful like Ana's jar or D.Va, but it's extremely janky and unfun to play with or against. In that respect, it did need a change.
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>>164710112
>>164708073
D.va only pleases me
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>>164709750
I really wish they'd swap some of the English voice lines for Lúcio with his Portuguese ones. Even his ult lines for friendlies and enemies are in English.
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>>164710020
Where are you from in Britain? Isn't Tracer's accent standard Cockney?
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>Dva feels playable
>Anas nade still heals respectably
>roadhogs hook is slightly less reliable with some bullshit breaks
probably gonna weed out a bunch of shitters that main them
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>>164708456
Netherlands
Zenyatta
Mei
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>>164709750
Junkrat is real fuckin' neato, VA nailed the accent for the most part and he isn't filled with autistic "le Aus is dangerous xDDD" jokes.

I guess I can drop my 2 cents about the hog, RoadHog is cool but that ain't a fucking kiwi accent. The only thing that shits me about streetswine is the VA.
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>>164709750
Tracer should have been manc, or even sc*use.
Letting southern ponces represent the UK is always a mistake.
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>>164709557
Blizzard may be grossly incompetent, but without a dev post I don't believe they would be dumb enough to reward stat whores over team players in regards to ELO calculation in the way that guy says.
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>when you go fast
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>>164710198
>Implying the VA could pull off a carioca accent

It'd probably sound really weird
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>>164709270
>>164709462
Zarya can't chase to confirm kills, and her DPS at close range is not as high as D.va's unless she's mostly charged, and even then a lot of it goes off into the void. I'd imagine we'll be seeing more and more of a D.va as attack tank and Zarya a defense tank, although both can certainly contribute going either direction.

>>164709893
>>164709789
>>164709557
>a random on the forums is an authority on the MMR system
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why is shad such a good fucking artist?
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>>164709893
well its better to kill, damage, stand on the point, heal, and kill on the point than to actually win
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>>164710435

He is? Uh, oh, I mean he is!
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>>164710264
>Annoying metafags will fuck off somewhere else
feels good
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>>164708497
Being a version of Winston that doesn't suck on defense. DVA is only as good as she can abuse shift. The defense maymaytrix meta was nice but DVA was always a useless character until you understood positioning
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>>164709843
>mercyfag
Thanks for that advice cuck, but i have TWO TABS.
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>>164709750
American here
IDGAF about McCree, he's a cool dude.
76 is just Captain America/boring grizzled soldier
Reaper is whatever, he doesn't have any character outside of edgelord and that isn't a burgerland stereotype

>>164710018
Because they went "whoops no south american hero?" and changed him on the fly
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>>164710435
He isn't
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>>164710215
I live in Kincoln, Tracer sounds more like an American putting on a British accent. The only line that I could imagine being said by a real Brit is "i could murder a chippy"
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>>164708059
>>164708184
>>164708254
>>164708545
>Roadhog bug fixes after almost a year
>D.Va nerf
Is this finally a new beginning?
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>>164709750
I'm amused by both the Secret Leaf (Lucio) and the Half-Leaf (Pharah) being justice-motivated ethnic minorities.
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>>164709991
reinbro never let anyone tell you you're stupid you're probably the raddest dude in this thread and you've genuinely motivated me
thank you my dude
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>>164709557
LOL holy shit you can rank up by losing as long as you play heroes no one fucking plays

No wonder it's so fucking hard to level as reindhart cause they are in every game LOL

This is hilariously incompetent, even for Blizzard
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>>164710264
>Dva feels playable
yeah, going from 600 to 0 hp as soon as you stick your head from cover sure is playable
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I don't know how people play like this without wanting to drive a spike through their own eye sockets
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>>164710435
>Shadman
May as well fap to palcomix
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>>164709893
correct. it is better to rack up dmge, kills, healing, obj time, than it is to win the game.
> do you flex your hero picks to make the team better?
YOU ARE USING AN INFERIOR RANKING STRATEGY BECAUSE THE GAME IS ABOUT PADDING STATS NOT WINNING
> do you spend time and effort making calls for your team?
YOU ARE USING AN INFERIOR RANKING STRATEGY BECAUSE THE GAME IS ABOUT PADDING STATS NOT WINNING
>do you pursue your class counters and kill them instead of parasitizing off kills form other people?
YOU ARE USING AN INFERIOR RANKING STRATEGY BECAUSE THE GAME IS ABOUT PADDING STATS NOT WINNING
>do you do lots of damage to one guy and kill them instead of a little bit of damge to everyone?
YOU ARE USING AN INFERIOR RANKING STRATEGY BECAUSE THE GAME IS ABOUT PADDING STATS NOT WINNING
>do you refrain from damaging the enemy team to prevent their healers from getting ult?
YOU ARE USING AN INFERIOR RANKING STRATEGY BECAUSE THE GAME IS ABOUT PADDING STATS NOT WINNING
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>>164710405
I meant straight-up swapping´the English lines with the ones from the PT voiceover as a band-aid solution, not getting Jonny Cruz to pull off an carioca accent.
it would probably suck
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>>164710435
>shadman
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>blizz says you won't be able to hook someone, do a 180 and dump them off a cliff
>turns out you can

Cool story blizz
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>>164710264
>Bullshit breaks
Do you mean the current is bullshit or the future?
Because one of those two makes you a retard.
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>>164710658
>that many people chasing after one baby dva
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>>164710658
Holy shit I just had deja vu, I've had pretty much literally that moment happen to me as D.VA, but on PC.
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>>164710683
So basically it's better to have fun and try your best?
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>>164710683
are you memeing or being serious. I can't even tell anymore.

I'm two seconds away from instalocking 76 for the rest of my OW career
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>>164710801
No, it's better to be a tryhard and get all golds
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>>164710664
>thinking i dont.

>>164710698
nice 'everyone hates shadman because hivemind' meme, i really like it, it never gets old.
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>>164707676
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>buy a gold skin for a character
>realize after two or three games you don't like it
>tfw
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>people just now finding out about escaping ecopoint
>meanwhile you can still do it in king's row and anubis
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>reaper kills me
>"thanks"
>switch to soldier
>kill him
>"I didn't start this war but I'm damn well gonna finish it"
>he gets rezzed
>kill him again
>repeat the voice
>mfw
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So is the PTR hook consistent now? Will it always set Lucio, Genji, and Ana consistently in front of you? The other stuff I can deal with but I don't want people dropped at 90 degree angles anymore.
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this game is mad casual & also pretty gay.
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>its another crash episode

fix your game jeff
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Anyone play on PS4?
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>>164709313
Winston can still 1V1 more than 60 of the cast, much higher even IMO, DVA was already a safer pick for many reasons, her being able to solo 100% of the cast wasn't reasonable. She still going to be easier than Winston, pellet increase will make her a headshot machine, self destruct charge rates will go through the roof.
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>>164710957
Seems like it so far. Ana also gets pulled the same distance so you can one shot her.
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>>164710854
i am beign fucking serious.
the game gives you more points for a win if you have high stats, and less loss for losing. therefore, it is better to have high stats and 50/50 record, than to have average stats and 70/30 record
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>>164710861
Huh.
You know I don't think I'm cut out for that
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>>164710435
>Crunt

What did he mean by this?
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hog is pretty fun now
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reminder that if you stop maining a character just because they aren't OP anymore you're a shitty person. t. Dvafag since launch

granted, maining in a game like OW is dumb to begin with, but still.
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>>164710941
>Having to switch because of Reaper

Sad!
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>>164711025
We out here
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>>164711025
PC & PS4 right here
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>>164711025
ye
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>>164711138
we paladins makoa hook now
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How hard is it to just specialize in a role but have experience on every hero? I'm amazed that people can play a single hero for 100+ hours but have no experience of anything else. It fucks you over for comp and if your hero gets overnerfed you're fucked.
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>>164711138
>The exact fucking thing they said wouldn't happen, happens
Is any other dev this grossly incompetent?
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>>164711186
>>164711206
>>164711289
Post PSN
P-please
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>>164708456
>US
>Widow
>Widow
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>>164711138
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>Haven't done quickplay in a while, lets screw around
>First game has a 9 year old boy on voice chat talking about how he is the only one on the team who is doing any work.
>I had 3 golds, a silver, and was on a 9 kill streak
>A bastion player had just got a damn near team kill
>9 year old is playing genji on defense.

I forgot what quickplay was like.
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How can I vastly improve my Widowmaker fap sessions? You guys can any tips or tricks for my play?
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What is it about Hanzo and Widowmaker that draw the worst players possible into my matches?
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>>164708456

US
Somba/Junkrat/Dva/Zenyatta
Dva
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Someone please carry me to Plat, all I want is the shiny icon, I won't even play Competitive after that.
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?
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>>164708456
Scotland
Zarya
Mei
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>>164711324
>He mains one hero
>He doesn't main 2 heroes for each role
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>>164711046
Fantastic. Gonna consider this overall a buff then, I'm fine giving up the odd janky hook in exchange for consistency.
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>>164711469
Consistently getting POTG and losing is really fun isn't it?
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Anyone on xbone want to play either today or tomorrow? I get tired of hearing my sister blame the team constantly when she plays only dva, reaper, and hanzo
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>>164711446
>>164711401
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>>164711406
I don't play with people
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>>164711526
because people think killing a person in one shot is l33t mad beasting skillz
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>>164709557
Nice bait
Really made me think
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>>164711580
Everyone should be able to play one hero in each role to a competent standard at least.
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>>164711617
Right, it's more of a 90 degree turn
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>>164711446
>>164711617
>blizzard tries to fix the hook
>makes it worse
every fucking time, lol
i cant even get mad anymore.
at this point its just fucking funny how dumb they are.
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So this is their idea of fixing hog's hook
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>>164711594
That's pretty much the quickplay experience after competitive.

>Our healer is a zenyatta
>He only heals about 5k the whole game
>Constantly tries to fight vs watching his teammates
>Pharah on the team is walking on the ground 75% of the time
>Genji kids, everywhere
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>>164711446
Can you do it on other heroes though? Maybe is a thing you can pull off on big targets like her dva
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INCREASE SOMBRA DAMAGE NOW

NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>164711795
>>164711827
I'm consistently being hooked through walls. The fact that these bugged hooks result in a one hit kill for the majority of heroes is just inexcusable
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RIP dva. you will be missed
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>>164709750
I fucking hate Tracer, her voice is so annoying
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>>164711815
L O L
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>>164711617
this is why they go to the ptr before dumping it on everyone
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>>164711406
You probably wouldn't want to play with me I'm a fujo in gold
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So the hook will break if line of sight does too. I think the intent is to stop shit like webm related happening.

But looking through my shadowplay clips I found a lot of instances of where the hook hits, line of sight breaks, but I think it's still "fair" to reel them in. Under the new system ALL of these hooks would break I'd imagine.

https://youtu.be/CoqIFNiQkkc
I tried putting it in a webm but the quality was even worse.

Which of these hooks do you think are unfair? The only one I think is #8. If they're going to make this hook nerf a reality I think they should make it reel them in the second it touches, so they don't have a chance to fall/slide out of LoS.

>>164711815
This makes me hurt inside.
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>>164711815
Wait wtf happened here? LOS wasn't broken. Why did it break?
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>>164711637
But they just shoot shields and never get a single fucking kill.
"I'll just play to get a good first pick, then I'll swap"
>They never swap and get autism levels off the charts when you tell them to swap because they're actually causing us to lose almost single handedly.
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>>164710658
what about that webm of golds on pc struggling to kill a single mccree
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Why isn't there a Scottish character yet?
Could feud with Tracer and his ult would be playing the bagpipes to stun enemies near him.

>>164711324
I can play almost every character competently (exceptions for ana and winston) but I'all usually go my main. >>164708456
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>>164711946
Whatever point on roadhog's body los is calculated from probably had a fault with the pillars hitbox.
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>>164711927
>fujo
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>>164710435
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So with the new PTR patch posted online how long do you think OverWatch YouTubers will take to make a video and get $500 for 10 minutes of work?
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>>164711781
The thing is you can actually do a 180 like he said you wouldn't be able to.
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>>164711723
what is your graph trying to say?
i see the same graph on both shots
were you trying to compare winrate to rank gain?
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Is it true that only homos and women play as healers?
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>>164711946
Who cares, fuck that broken ass character.
I'm sick of instantly dying to non ultimate moves.
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>>164712091
Shouty british man already has his clickbait video up
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>>164712091
>MY NAME IS NICKEL, OH NICKEL
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>>164711849
It works on every hero, size doesn't matter. If you're up on a ledge, you can hook someone below you, turn around (or to the side) and reel them up to you.
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>>164712091
>ROADHOG RUINED?????
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What does the new killfeed look like? anyone got a pic?
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Why the fuck is damage what they're nerfing on D.Va? You already have to shove yourself so far up someone's ass you can see what their stomach is currently breaking down just to kill them before they can shred through the meka's health.
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>mfw tank meta getting BTFO and we're going back to based McCree/S76/Genji meta

eat shit and die tank players, your inflated SR is about to 'tank' ahahahahahaha
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>>164712027
it's tracer's girlfriend
she voted to stay in the UK and moved to london to be with an english girl
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>>164712091
ELLO EVERYONE THIS IS STYLOSA

LET ME READ A FORUM POST FOR 30 SECONDS

LIKE COMMENT AND SUBSCRIBE GUYS THANKS

>1000 BONG Dollars have been deposited to your account
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>>164712250
>>164712091
>D.VA MURDERED, UNVIABLE IN META?????
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>>164712328
How do I play soldier well? I always seem to spray and miss my shots
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>>164712151
It's winrate change compared to SR change, yes.
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>>164712256
It just shows ability/ult icons if you kill someone with them. The arrow also changes to red if you get a kill with a headshot and is orange if you kill someone with your ult.
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>>164711940
They're all kinda wonky, but at the same time you hooked them fairly while they were in clear LOS. Save for 8 and 9 which shouldn't have been allowed. I'm conflicted, mostly because I resent the fact that hooking a hero gives Roadhog a free kill on 6 second CD.
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>>164712378
Do not bully stylosa he is a good boy and needs his bongbucks
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>>164712458
This is satire
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>"WHAT'S UP GUYS AND GALS, ITS YA GIRL D.VA HERE COMIN BACK ATCHA AGAIN WITH ANOTHER HIGHLY CLASSIFIED SOUTH KOREAN MILITARY OPERATION SO BE SURE TO SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON AND SUBSCRIBE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY TO SHOW THAT YOU LIKE THIS SO I CAN KEEP BRINGING YOU THIS DAYLY CONTENT"
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>>164712389
Keep mobile, don't be afraid to just get in some damage as you can take it, stay healthy.

Your speed and quick damage rate are what makes you really threatening.
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So what does pressing L2 button do for D.va?
Is it supposed to do something?
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>>164712058
Use your words anon
>>164712143
>this is the fix
D E V I L I S H
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>>164707893
Always tactical visor Pharah no matter what. They'll rage off of Pharah and you're free to actually help the team instead of focusing on that bitch.
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>>164712458
they also increased the amount of kills youre able to see in the killfeed too
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>>164712418
i see his winrate staying way above 50/50 and his rank going down. that seems to confirm >>164709557
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>D.va got nerfed back to useless
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>>164712389

Your first 4 shots have zero spread. Make those count, and burst fire at long range.
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I will stay play D.va

even if you tell me to switch
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Is Mei fat? She got a fat ass but she's got that summer games ping pong spray where she's D.Va tier. WHERE DO THE LIES END?
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>>164712550
>>164712717
Thanks.
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I have a laundry list of ideas for changes that all come from what I think would be healthy for the game and in no way coming from "rage."

Genji:
Restore double-jump reset after wall climbing

McCree:
Flashbang becomes a very short duration Sombra-style ability silence, so that you can still stop somebody from dashing away or using a shield but they can still fight back

Pharah:
Larger splash and greater damage at extreme close range

Junkrat:
Bear trap should be more visible and fix instances where it clips through the ground partially

Reinhardt:
Charge damage should be nerfed, I can't think of a logical reason why it does ~250 damage.

That is all
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>>164712739
dva pls switch
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>>164712536
>I GOT NERFED????!!!?!?!? STORY TIME WITH D.VA (TRUE STORY)
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>>164712739
Good man.

Stay loyal to your wiafu, she'd do the same for you
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Hi /owg/.
Post your level, and how many gold weapons you've unlocked (you can name which ones too, if you want).

Me:
>250 (or 2 star 50, however you prefer)
>2 (D.Va, Zen (tfw gold nuts))

You?
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>>164712653
She was never useless if you did more than ineffectually spam guns at people on the front line then matrix and fly away when people shot at you.

All this change does is flush away the bads bandwagoning her
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>>164712739
Same here.
One day she'll get her mid-season upgrade
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>>164712759
She's probably a bit chubby but not the 400lb whale people draw her as. Her leggins are sking-tight and she's got some pretty big thighs.
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>>164712739
>switching off D.Va
>ever

Glad you don't give in to shitters, anon.
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Why are people bitching about the PTR D.Va nerfs when she actually does more damage at close range now
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>>164712865
>104
>0
>Never even touched comp
>>
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>>164711025

yeah I'm here

i'm shit and I only play mystery heroes and quickplay though
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Why does Rein get to stay unkillable an OP as fuck and no other tank is allowed to be useful?
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>>164712943
fuck you, you don't know me

Mercy would find me adorable
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>>164712649
Anon, if your winrate across the seasonal timeframe is steadily dropping, than your recent trend is a significantly lower win rate than your seasonal, implying that it doesn't represent your actual skill.
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>>164713002
literally just hack him and he's useless
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>>164712562
ELL... TOO??? What's L2????
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>>164711927
I'm in Platinum, I can help you move up!
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Wait the fuck is the difference between health and armor that's default on heroes like D.Va and rein?
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>>164713002
His hard counter isn't played by anyone and the art of killing his support so he dies to chip damage has been lost to time because flanking isn't "meta" now
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>>164712943
>your autism will never be the reason mercy drinks
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>>164711870

She doesn't even need more damage (though it'd be nice) she just needs to not be so easy to fuck up when she's trying to hack someone

like I won't pretend like I know how to balance games, but surely it's worth at least exploring alternatives to just instantly losing your hack if anybody sneezes in your general direction.
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>>164713121
Armor mitigates damage. It's very effective vs low damaging shit like pellets
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>>164711815
All they had to do was fix the animation of the hook
If it didn't clip through walls it wouldn't look so stupid and less people would complain

I mean, most of the time when getting hooked '''through''' a wall, the player getting hooked was in his LoS as they were hooked. The players momentum took them behind the wall, but the hook already connected, so they get yacked back out. Because the chain just clips through the wall it looks like complete bullshit though.

Just fucking fix the chain and the hooks look 100% less retarded
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>>164713163
Are you a bad enough dude to drink Mercy under the table?
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>>164713054
anon, if you are in a car going forward. and then you keep going forward but at a slower rate, you still are further than you were before.
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>>164713121
damage that's under a certain amount (i.e. sombra machine gun/soldier rifle) will be reduced by 5 I believe, when it hits armor. Strong attacks like rockets or grenades are unchanged.
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>they took out mystery duel and replaced it with mystery heroes

Fucking thank you, I can't believe they did it just like that.
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>Roadhog can now consistently oneshot Ana, Mei, and Reaper

I fucking knew it. I could feel it in my fat hog balls.
And I will fucking take that deal Blizzard
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>>164713121
Armor (Both default and from torb) reduces 5 damage from >10 damage attacks and halfs any <10 damage attacks
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>>164713308
I don't understand why they didn't just keep both
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>>164713309
Ana and Mei will taste my big fat pig cock
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>Sombra's buff was to reduce hacking time by .2 seconds.

I mean, yeah, I guess that's going to be useful to more reliably hack Genji or Tracer and leave them without a free escape route, and maybe to also hack D.Va while she uses Defense Matrix or Zarya before she uses bubble, but it still sounds pretty irrelevant.

Translocator is still wonky and non-instant, and her spread is still retarded.
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WHY WONT THEY FIX WINSTON


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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If anyone can post a one of those 4000x2000 4K+ level in-game screenshots of just D.Va in her carbon fiber, I'd greatly appreciate it.

I don't have a machine that can output that high so can't do it myself
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>>164713438
If more armor made dva OP why don't they just give Winston more armor?
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>>164713301
no
>>164713313
yes
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>>164713438
RACISM
A
C
I
S
M
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>>164713430
I just want the damage cancellation gone, it's a pain in the ass since some heroes that you wanna hack spray pretty much non-stop like Tracer and D.va, Rein always has teammates around him too to stop you
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>>164711894
For the last fucking time YOU ARE NOT BEING HOOKED THROUGH A WALL, the hook hits you as you go around a corner.

The hook doesn't stop momentum instantly so you slide around a corner and after a delay you get pulled.

ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS REMOVE THE DELAY ON THE PULL. It would stop autists bitching about the "bug".
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>mfw D.va mains are getting triggered by nerfs but my main has been useless for ages and there's no fix in sight
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>>164713292
Going with your analogy, SR is your speedometer, not odometer, which is your level. And he may not have a positive recent winrate in general.
Also, consider this if the other didn't convince you. All increases in individual stats, only decreasing winrate, decreasing SR
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>>164713268
too difficult to program for blizzard
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>>164713557
The best thing they could do to Winston is leave him exactly the same but make his melee punch a lot more powerful so you could actually fuck people up close range


This is my dream
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I've been playing D.va through the buffs and nerfs since release. She'll still be very good in the right hands
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>>164713557
Who is this cum curmudgeon?
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>>164713667
Gorirra


Paunch
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>>164713596
Liking Mercy and Bastion is suffering.
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>>164713587
but sometimes you just do get hooked through a wall, the tiny little penis of your hitbox is around the corner and it pulls the rest through the wall
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>>164713253
Actually no, shotguns are less effected by armor than weapons like s76's rifle or tracer's pistols. Armor fucks over low damage high firerate, shotgun damage is still really high and it chews through armor which is why Roadhog and Reaper fuck up tanks
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>>164713694
that's blizzard's associate esports manager
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>>164708456
>burgerland
>maining in overwatch
>mercy
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Is melee damage the same for all characters?

Because I feel like Genji should hurt people more then Mei for example?
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>join game
>map loading screen
>"DEFEAT"
Thanks for the 650xp I guess?
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>>164713667
>Winston's M2 is now an electric charged fisting
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>>164709616
Late reply but it was confirmed it's a robotic arm.
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>>164713268
The issue is really the bullshit hit boxes: it's the same reason you get nerfed and arrowed behind walls
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>>164713739
>tfw Bastion was my first hero
>tfw Bastion was my first potg
>the first ult achievement I got was for Bastion
>he's pretty bad
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>>164713667
>>164713802
>Winston, an old granny and a frail blonde doctor all do the same damage with their melee attack

This really shouldn't be allowed.
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>>164713080
Thanks for offering that'd be sweet! I was in plat last season, feel free to add me, my psn is supraghetti I main tracer, ana, zarya and sometimes junkboy. I can go online in about 20 mins
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>>164712815
>Charge damage should be nerfed, I can't think of a logical reason why it does ~250 damage.
Because it's the only way tryinhardt mains can have fun. Let them have their fun.
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>>164713268
>Making a lazy hook chain that's essentially a stretched texture 'bend' around solid objects

LMFAO you really underestimate how fucking shit Blizzard is at making games
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>>164713442
Like this?
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>>164708456
America
Zen, Lucio,D.Va
I want to be friends with Junkrat

waifus are gay
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>>164712815
>buffing genji

No, fuck off. Until Deflect is completely reworked that character deserves to be in a fucking dumpster.
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>>164713929
Charging into shit is fun though, charging people off cliffs is even better
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>>164713819
It's half and half, hitboxs do suck
I like to think the hook isn't just a straight throw though
Have you ever thrown a rope/chain at a corner? It will bend round past the corner, so Hog would be able to slightly wrap a hook around a corner (unlike an arrow)
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>>164713587
>>164713268
>people who actually get it
Make the chain bend so people can actually see whats happening and revert the 'put them back at the place where they got hooked' thing. It doesn't alleviate people's frustration at being hooked, it usually just increases it.

Or make the pull happen instantly. That would solve the problem. Or both, preferably.
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>>164713867
Bastion will be buffed friend. Don't worry. As soon as the release babies have forgotten about the genocide that was release bastion and now that they know how to counter him, he will get his spotlight again. Just be patient.
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>>164714037
>Genji is being an annoying shit
>use Hammer Down so he stays still
>charge him off the balcony in Illios

He and my teammates got upset but that was very satisfying.
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>>164714045
This. Hog should at least somewhat be able to pull people out of cover. It's a fucking hook on a chain. For verticality, think of it like a lasso.
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>>164714045
>Have you ever thrown a rope/chain at a corner? It will bend round past the corner,
But it'd get stuck there. I mean, you're pulling 60-300kg people, not paper
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If you play roadhog primarily you are trash at this game and can't aim. Please don't post here. You are not Pudge from dota making epic hook plays. You are literally using a hitscan stun to get guaranteed kills. Kill yourself if you have the time, fatsos.
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>>164713802
Nope it's the same. Your katana does the same damage as D.Ba's tiny Korean hands
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>>164713679
same

I hope this change will scare off the bandwagoners and I can have mai waifu to myself again
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>>164713398
Can't spoil us too much with options
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>>164714263
t. Ana main
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To people playing D.va on the PTR:
Based on your experience, how well do you think she holds up now?
Is her survivability still fine?
Will a good D.va player still be as useful with her?
Will a bad D.va player still be useful with her?
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>Playing Arcade to win Loot Boxes for the week
>Keep playing Oasis to learn the map
>Win 6 or 7 games in a row with decent teams
>New team as a group of 3 lv40-50s
>Think they'll be decent
>Not a single one stays on point
>They fight off point trying to hide behind corners and not die
>Try explaining that's why we're losing - None of the 3 are on point
>Hanzo is especially annoying
>"BREH CHILL!!"
>Get POTG but we still lose.
>Next match fighting against them
>Team decimates them
>POTG is the Hanzo ulting 5 meters from the point, only killing half our team, and then running away to avoid dying.
>Tell him that's a prime example of not being on the point
>He gets mad and starts raging in the chat
>Tells me to fight him
>"I just did, and we won."
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>>164714243
It's Hog though, he's the same size as a literal fucking war machine and a genetically engineered super human in full power armour
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>>164713998
>genji isn't allowed to have fun

the post
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>>164714263
>thousands of shit roadhog players that instapick and never hook anything important all match
>as useless as a bad hanzo or genji pick but never ever get called out like those ever
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>all these bullshit changes when Winston STILL hasn't been fixed from when they fucked him up because of the character stacking days


Are they ever going to correct this shit?
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>>164712815
>Bear trap should be more visible and fix instances where it clips through the ground partially
isn't this intended?
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>>164713908
>>164714310
Jesus christ Blizzard, wtf?

Why would you add different types of health pools and ammo but not melee?!
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>>164714327
>if you don't like roadhog, you're playing his direct counter!
(You)
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The roadhog hook hitbox is so small now wow

Were the other nerfs even justified for this
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>>164714263
I don't main Hog but I use him on maps with big chokepoints
Pulling in Rein or someone else when his shield breaks is the gamebreaker for pushing on a choke
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>>164714263
>Believing the hitscan meme
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how do you get your battletag as a blank space?
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>>164714436
Winston is 400 HP Symmetra with armor, so no, I hope he never gets 'fixed' and rots in a hole.

Autoaim heroes are for trash kids. Fuck off.
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>>164714436
This is blizzard we're talking about, give them 6 months to fix Winston, minimum.
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>>164714574
If all you care about is muh aim skill why not just play CS:GO? You're in the wrong game buddy.
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>>164713958
yes yes yes, thank you very much. My pc obviously cant output this since I built it in 2008. In comparison, yours is a god machine
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>>164714445
It's Blizzard. All design and balance decisions come from the upper management that have been in ther positions way too fucking long.

i mean fuck just look at the story in WoW right now and try to wonder how the fuck that got through without someone bringing up how autisticly bad it was in a meeting
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>>164713802
The tanks should have slightly stronger Melee (Rein already does but duh)
D.va's mech, Winston's gorilla strength, Hog's hook and Zarya's thunderpunch would all break your teeth
Genji should have it as it fits in with his kit, Torb's hammer should do more too
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>>164714386
What I mean is whoever is getting hooked would just crash against the wall, hog is strong but that would require him to break the scenario

That being said, I think if they actually added the hookee being pulled against a wall and receiving damage for it would be pretty neat
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>>164714647
Glad to help
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WHERES THE FUCKING 1V1 ARCADE MODE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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How do we fix Mercy without making garbage?
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>>164714771
Hopefully gone for good, garbage mode
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>>164714771
Why don't you check reddit frogshitter?
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>>164714820
Who gives a shit about Mercy
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>>164714771
custom

>>164714820
overheal
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>>164714715
>ellowas is making a symmetra model

Can't wait m8
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>>164714898
>overheal

this.
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>>164714362
pls resbond
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>>164713908
I feel like that should be a passive for Winston:

>Gorilla Strength: Winston deals an extra 25 damage on all Melee attacks

So that would also effect his ult, meaning each swipe now does 70 instead of 45.
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>>164714706
doesn't torbjörns hammer already do as much dmg as reinhardt
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>>164713268
>Roadhog mains on suicide watch
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>>164714898
>>164714927
can't overheal in the waiting room though
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>>164715012
No way. It makes perfect sense that all melee hits do the same damage. From the katana to tiny Asian fists to gorilla hands
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>>164714820
Overheal
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Rest in peace, sweet prince
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>>164714934
>>164714362
She has less armor so she can't sustain in teamfights alone as much anymore. Less room for mistakes. Her shotguns have more pellets, and effectively do a bit more damage at point-blank range, so she can really fuck people up if she hits all her pellets now.

Overall I think she's going to be way less of a nuisence for coordinated teams but still very valuable since they didn't touch her defense matrix. I can see people playing her instead of Rein a lot in lower brackets but Rein's ult is pretty good in 6v6, so we'll see. Roadhog is basically fucking done so Zarya/Rein is back baby!
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>>164713975

>playing sombra on lijang tower
>invisible
>nobody saw me or anything
>get booped by a lucio that wasn't even aiming at me and die
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>>164715021
kek no
They actually reduced the damage because he can now swing faster, but the hitbox is retarded anyway so it barely ever lands

>>164715073
I main Zarya, I'm just not retarded
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>>164715126
>tiny Asian fists
She hits people with her pistol though
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>>164714856
t. shitter who got butthurt because he couldnt blame his lack of skill on his teammates
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>>164714425
>as useless as a bad hanzo or genji pick but never ever get called out like those ever
Worse, because they charge enemy ult.
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>>164712815
>Bear trap should be more visible
It's always super visible to junkrat. It's intentionally clipping through the ground to hide it from enemies.
>McCree's Flashbang just becomes a silence
Only on the condition he gets full invulnerability during the roll part of his combat roll.
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>>164715248
As if her twig arms could even break a biscuit with a swing of her pistol
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>>164715248
I think he's talking about Mei
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>>164715021
I think it would technically do the same DPS since he swings faster, but each individual hit does less.
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>korean with open mic
>He actually speaks enough english he can communicate and is doing decent on d.va
>hear door open in the background
>korean mom(or maybe wife i dunno) yelling like crazy and he starts yelling back
>stops moving the entire time this is happening
>gets kicked from the game eventually while this tirade is going
>up 2-0 on koth and the other team now turns the 3rd point around at 99 and ends up winning that map
>next map korean joins really early
>we win that map and the game and someone asks him what that was about and if everything is alright
>"oh someone ate her *some food I didn't understand* and she thought it was me but it was my sister, everything is fine"

Asian parents are nuts.
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Did they change roadhogs hook speed? It seems like it activates faster
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>Roadhog can actually oneshot Zarya now
>if not, he leaves her below 100 HP
>right click > hook > left click is a death sentence
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>>164715207
It actually did used to do the same damage as Reinhardt's Primary (75) before the changes. But yeah the hitbox was retardidly tiny on it so no one ever tried using it.
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>all this tank butthurt

Im loving it, plus I like to play best girl tracer and best ape winston so I dont ever have to worry about nerfs coming their way. Hell winston might get a few buffs because of how many shitters cant use him properly.
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>>164715189
nah he'll be even better
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>>164715189
>>164715073

>>164715380
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>>164715514
>Now oneshots mei and reaper all the time
Those fucks getting away randomly pissed me off
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>Drop from 2767 all the way down to 2487 in one day

The solo queue life is hard
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>>164715190
>Her shotguns have more pellets, and effectively do a bit more damage at point-blank range, so she can really fuck people up if she hits all her pellets now.

If that's the case she's actually been buffed. While given a slightly higher skill floor. (surviving with d.va was never, ever the problem)

Sounds good. Fewer shitters playing robot girl and the good ones will be more useful.
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>>164715380
It's kind of amazing the level of incompetence Blizzard has on display.
>>
>win match playing phara/rein
>get ten to rating
>be a drunk asshole and play torb entire match
>we lose surprise
>gain 30 points to rating

What the fuck? Explain this shit?!
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>>164711025
Got a ps4 yesterday. Im level 11 and am a torbjorn main. I got a quad on torbjorn attack on dorado.
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>>164715190
>Her shotguns have more pellets, and effectively do a bit more damage at point-blank range
8(3) = 24
11(2) = 22

Some people on the forums are saying the low end is unchanged, though, which if true is actually a slight damage buff at range.
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How do I get gud as Reaper?
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I wish Blizzard realized Ana was the major problem, not D.Va or Hog. Now nothing changes but silver retards are happy.
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>>164715264
>bastion
>symmetra
>winston
>zarya
>rein
>roadhog
>implying these were fun
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Make Junkrat's grenades faster already.
Fuck.
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>>164715296
Pistols are still made out of still, even a tiny woman could deal some damage with a well placed swing

I do get you though, Winston doing more damage on melee sounds like an interesting idea

>>>164715320
>Mei
>tiny
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>>164715757
uh hello?
>Biotic Grenade
>Healing boost on allies has been decreased by 50%
her healing literally got cut in half
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>>164715264
Most of these heroes have horrible 1v1 fights. It should be limited to offense heroes
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>>164708456
USA
Roadhog/Mei/Reaper
Mei
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>>164715662
There's already posts about it, but your SR doesn't go up based on your performance in the match per se, as it does compare your effectiveness with that hero to all other stats for that hero

few torbs in masters means you'll have an easier time getting good rating by playing torb, because you'll be a higher percentage player as torb, even if you're shit
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>>164715949
>still retarded ass damage
>cuts bonus healing in half
>no cuts to instant 100 heal from nade OR the heal block
Yeah sure. Besides, it's a 25% cut, not 50%.
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>>164715972
Thicc or thin Mei?
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anyone wanna partner up because im sick of elo hell and getting matched with people who cant team comp worth shit.
add marsattacks on pc pls
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>>164715714
Be able to aim well. Reaper is much better at close range, so you gotta be able to dodge better than the enemy can shoot. Know where all the health packs are in case of near death while fighting an enemy, Phantom yourself away to one and heal. You're pretty open when you teleport, so try to be inconspicuous about it. Reaper is best when nobody is expecting him, so attack from behind when given a chance.

Just play with him for hours on end with this in mind, and you'll eventually get gud.
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>>164715949
it got cut to 3/4ths
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>People think this patch will kill Roadhog

Lmao what? Now that his hook actually brings people directly in front of him rather than 10 feet away, he will be so much better to play now.
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>>164715757
It's a pretty big nerf to Ana

The thing about biotic grenade was that it buffs healing from all sources, not justs Ana. Biotic field, take-a-breather, Lucio's AoE heal, Mercy's beam, even healthpacks

Without all that extra healing tanks will be noticeably easier to kill
>>
I have come to terms with the fact that Blizzard doesnt fucking know to balance anything

Back to Counter Strike it is
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>>164715757
So what exactly needs to change with her? I'm really against lowering her healing abilities and more for making her not so great at everything and an effective anti-flanker.

I would say drop her health to 150, drop her damage per shot down to 40 and lowering the healing effect on her grenades to 40 for non-direct hits and the damage ditto but to 20 for non-direct with sleeping dart unchanged.

I feel this would make her more of a glass cannon healer and a different playstyle than Mercy.
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>>164715094

just make it so overheal doesn't trigger on unless you've already healed like 50 health or something without dropping the beam on that character.
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>>164715697
This difference could be offset by more pellets critting at close range, which I guess is what they're talking about
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>>164715767
You're right about symmetra and winston being shit but there was literally nothing wrong with the rest you shitter
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>>164708456
Burger
Junkrat, Zarya, D.va, and Lucio
Jamison Fawkes
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>>164716152
Damage and the heal block. Maybe make Nano Boost targets get reduced healing, they already get reduced damage taken so it's like they have bonus healing on them as well
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>>164707773
>her healing negation still exists
absolutely nothing has changed
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>>164715949
> her healing literally got cut in half

Nigga it was just her grenade healing boost. The grenade still applies that in a 4m radius to everything it hits, along with some burst healing, hurting the enemy team, and cancelling any healing the enemy team might've done.

Not to mention her high rate of fire and 10 bullet clip that heals at 75 hp a piece

not even gonna talk about her damage, ult, or sleep dart

ana is still busted
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>>164708456
USA
Reinhardt
ZARYA I have dreams we live a happy life together. She makes me into a better man.
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>>164716065
I don't think people realize how many hooks are corner hooks. Sure he is more likely to kill you when he hooks you but the likelihood of that has dropped sharply. Once they fix the 180 turn hook's that popped up with the patch he will be a lot less dangerous because you can safely stand near a corner and shoot when roadhog is around without fear of being yanked after you walk back into cover.
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>>164716326
This

She's still the best healer by far with her overstuffed kit
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>>164708456
>>your country
Clapistan
>>your main
Tracer
>>your waifu/husbando
Dinksimulator
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>>164716026
>>164716062
not him, but doesn't the PTR patch notes say the boost was cut by 50%?
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pls make it happen blizz
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>>164713587
>The hook doesn't stop momentum instantly
...Are you actually delusional?
The game "favors the shooter" so if the "shooter" lands something on his screen, it lands. Making it buggy as fuck. Every Roadhog main knows this, and abuses it by playing Roadhog. If you slowdown WM and Hanzo gameplay it does the exact same thing, which is where his "log arrows" come from.
So on my screen it look like he pulled me through a solid object, but he saw half a fucking pixel or threw it completely at random so he gets a free kill.
The devs have confirmed that his hook has been bullshit from release and are finally fixing the massive BUG.
So long as they can make the line of sight fix work, he will finally be fixed.
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>>164716451
The boost, yes. The boost is the 50% of the healing Ana does, and cutting it in half is 25%.
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>>164708456
USA
D.VA
>having a waifu from a blizzard game
shiggydiggy2017
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>>164716486
>Shotafist

No
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>>164716451
the boost added 100% meaning her healing was at 200%.
200% - 50% = 150%
150/200 = 3/4
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>tfw you're stupid enough to entertain yourself by spamming voicelines
HEPPI HELLOWEEEN!
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On the brightside, hooks that do pull, you do FUCK tons of damage now, even 250 health heroes cannot escape the face full of scrap and the face full of hog.
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>>164713912
>Finished what I was busy with to see anon didn't add me
Welp I tried
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>>164716486
He's confirmed a big black guy. Look at the banners on Numbai
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>three hitscans on team
>enemy pharah rules the skies all match
thanks guys
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>After her nerf, Hana Song's use and popularity massively decreased to the point where she had no other option but to sell her body on the low streets of seoul for food
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>>164716445
>that subtle fanny crease
Muh deek
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>>164716685
He was like three guys and will probably be voiced by the guy from the old spice commercials
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>>164716685
According to those banners the third Doomfist was (is?) a big black omnic
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>>164716728
>forgetting that she is a conscript in the military
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>>164716486
I want it to be him and still be voiced by Terry Crews with no explanation given as to why he sounds like a middle-aged black man.
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Feels like I've hit a wall. I'm just not getting better at this game anymore. I don't know how to improve my aim. I have played many hours and I still am not getting better. What the fuck man.
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>>164716728
>Squeal for me.
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>>164716807
omnics are just niggers in tin cans

you thought actual sentient ai was possible?
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>>164716728
Fucking heart eyes, they get me every time
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>>164716614
good, he was always meant to punish enemies that were extremely out of position away from cover. This isn't a nerf, its a fix. He'll finally be played like he's supposed to.
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>>164716881
Seconded
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>>164716774
And the old spice guy is big and black.
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>>164716728
>Military
>whoring herself out
>streaming
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>>164716807
>third doomfist is a big black omnic

Fucking source? The silhouette looks a helluva lot like a dude with a robotic arm, which would already fit the doomfist motif.

him being full omnic though would be sick as fuck, man i love robots, you can't do me like this man. I can't get my hopes up for that
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>>164716987
They were ALL big. At least two of the old ones seem to be black
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>Game ends after an enemy leaves
>Doesn't when there's just me and another dude left on our team on the last point
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>>164717016
His name is in omnic script and, y'know, metal arm
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>>164707676
>dva shitters crying over d.va nerfs
Hahaha, get fucked gold shitters.
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>>164717042
>winning 3v3
>1 guy leaves in the last round
>reinstancing
>not enough players, finding new game
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>>164708456
U.S. Florida, help me
Pharah
Pharah
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When do we get new stuff?
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>>164717164
I just really find it interesting how Doomfist wasnt just one guy, but a sorta title and each successor seems to have added to the gauntlet in some way.
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>>164717164
the savior design is sick as fuck tho

I feel anything else would be a downgrade. I hope it's an alternative skin at least
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>no s76 nerfs

haha great fucking job blizz
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>blizzard kills roadhog
>mildly nerfs ana
why
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>>164717239
Delete this and don't reply to me ever again.
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>>164717239
Tampa area?
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>>164717239
why would she take off most, but not all of her armor?
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>>164710764
yeah im totally retarded when shit like >>164711815 is happening :^)
>>164710615
you can deal with not having quite as much damage reduction, its not that hard
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Haven't played since launch really and just did my 10 placement matches.

Got 5 wins 1 loss 4 draw, put me at 21xx, gold.

Am I a good player? What rank do I need to be to be considered not casual trash?

Also on Asia there is a dude at 5k rating wtf that's like the tippy top right
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>>164717164
>chance to add a second black guy
>probably going to be the Africa representative hero

>make him a robot instead

What did Blizzard mean by this?
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>>164717664
3000 and higher is above average
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>>164717492
Baddies have been crying about Roadhog since day 1 and someone high up had a hand in designing Ana.

I wonder if 6 months down the track Blizzard will revert the paper mâché chain hook or do something dumb like Mei/Ana/Dva
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>>164708456
forgot to say USA Louisiana
>>164716035
what do you mean thin? :^)
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>>164708456
AUS
D.va
D.va
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I have a simple question for you /owg/:
Bloodhardt or Blackhardt?
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>>164717658
Provided they get it working as intended you're still retarded, or just abusing a long lasting bug.

I don't give two shits about a non-live patch.

I'm going off the dev blog post and their plans for Roadhog.
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>>164717686
But we have a second.
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>>164717686
>not being a good ally to trans-species People of Robotics in [current year]
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>>164707893
Get better. I still use Pharah against 4k soldiers cos they are still easy to outplay. I think it's funny he's considered a counter when most idiots pick him stand still to try track me properly and eat my rockets way before I die.

My 1v1s vs soldiers are like, 80% kill them, 10% kill each other 10% they kill me.
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>>164717164
The silhouette doesn't look like the standard zenyatta model, so either he's a heavily modified omnic or something like a kid orphaned by the war and raised by omnics
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>>164717492
>blizzard kills roadhog
Why though? Looks like the hook is more lethal when it lands, you just can't be a sneaky (anti)flanker anymore. Singling out someone in a team fight, killing or at the very least putting them in a horrible position is still a good ability to have every 6 seconds.
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Man, Sombra looks so fucking awkward when not in first person view.
Like, any time I see someone else playing Sombra, the way she keeps her left arm and the way she shoots look kinda dumb.
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>>164717686
There's no guarantee that Doomfist would be a robot, it seems the three there are all past ones.
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>>164717560
can't stop, won't stop

>>164717634
nah, central
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>>164717686
We already have two
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>>164717843
I like Blood
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>>164717843
Balderich
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>>164718050
but winston is from the moon
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>>164717849
>abusing a long lasting """"""bug""""""
i think youre the retard here
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>>164718050
voiced by a white guy, though
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>>164717907
indeed I believe ana fucks her up more consistently than soldier
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>>164717843
Bundeswehr
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>tfw your favorite gets gutted
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>>164717406
I know Blizzard would never do this, and that it would be really hard and silly, but it would be really fucking cool if Doomfist was a character that changed in whatever amount of time.
A bunch of characters, every one different from the others, but all sharing the trait of holding the title of Doomfist.
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>>164718143
And you think these come from earth?

>>164718175
Vader was voiced by a black guy, doesn't make him black.
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>>164718180
>best counter for a character is their mother
LIKE POTTERY
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>>164717987
It's a thing in all FPS, I think Reaper is the worst offender in this game, but not the only one I can think of (McCree, Mei).
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>>164718098
Yeah, I'm kinda leaning towards this one too.
Considering that my enemies will see me and my shield as red, it seems fitting.

>>164718132
I already have that one.
Pretty great but I also like the Axe from those other two so I'll probably get one.

>>164718245
Eh... I don't particularly like his helmet-less skins.
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>>164717976
>Looks like the hook is more lethal when it lands
see shit like >>164711815
the detection is garbage so enemies anywhere near an obstacle (all of them) are hard to hook now
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>>164718245
This.
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I can't believe D.Va is fucking dead
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>>164717843
Blackhardt, looks like Megatron.
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>>164718356
Remember early Dead Island noodle arms?
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>>164718356
kek yeah, Reaper also looks pretty silly.
I don't play many FPS games, I guess that's why it stood out for me.
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>>164718486
shes not dead, shes literally just taking 5 more damage under a different threshold now, and he guns deal 2 less damage per shot over a wider area. if you really like playing her you'll learn to work around it.
>>164718526
dont fucking remind me that shit was terrifying
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How come Dota 2 has a fairy balanced roster with 112 heroes yet Blizzard seems to fuck up something every patch with just 23?
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>>164717976
You are absolutely right. It can delete anything short of a tank because of how close it puts them. It's a free kill on everything from Mei to Reaper.

You can't destroy people using cover or dodging it at a distance but you will destroy anyone out in the open.
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As someone who hates D.va, I like Blizzard's nerfing strategy of taking her out back and giving her the Old Yeller
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>>164717987
It's probably inspired by how fencers keep their other hand behind their back for balance

Man I just love everything about sombra she's so elegantly trashy and cheesy and the kiddos just don't get it
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>>164718526
Didn't play that, sorry. Any pics, though?
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>>164718695
mobas are easier to balance and dota 2 makes a FUCKTON of money
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>>164718695
Because DOTA 2 isn't being balanced by a bunch of incompetent hacks
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>>164718695
A game that actually takes skill is much harder to balance than a moba

t. game designer
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>>164718695
Because Dota 2 is garbage and you need to leave
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>>164718695
I couldn't get into Dota, is this actually correct?
I'm having a hard time believing it.
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>no s76 nerfs
>no reaper buffs
>no mei buffs

Life is truly suffering
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>>164718760
Is the nerf really that bad? They're just switching out some of her armor for health and reducing her damage a little, it doesn't sound like anything that'd make her unplayable.
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So now that D.Va, Roadhog, and Zarya are perfectly balanced and never need to be touched again, who is in most need of a buff/nerf?
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>>164718906
>reducing her damage a little
Her midrange damage has effectively increased, pretty significantly.
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>>164718638
armor does more than just prevent 5 damage, it halves the damage of reaper, roadhog, torb, d.va, zarya, soldier, and MORE
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>>164718951
My beautiful hacker waifu
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>>164718951

Ana still needs to be removed from the game or have her stats revised sharply downwards.
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>>164718871
Yeah, Dota 2 is pretty well balanced but that retarded anon doesnt understand that moba balancing and fps balancing is not the same at all
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>>164718901
>Mei buffs
More like put Mei on a bus
and send her out of this game

You shitter she don't need buffs.
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>>164718773
Don't get me wrong, I like her a lot too, I just noticed that today because I almost never actually see someone else play Sombra.

>she's so elegantly trashy and cheesy

At first I didn't like all her outdated Mexican phrases like ASUSTAME PANTEÓN, but they've kinda grown on me.
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>tfw blizzard will never buff mercy because they only listen to reddit and mercy players are a meme there
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>>164718901
Mei is fine though, don't know much about the other two
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>>164718951
tweak some of the offense heroes that see zero play, like do some shit to Reaper.
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>>164719032
So it's not even as big a nerf as it sounded like? Why is everyone saying she sucks now?
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>>164718695
did you forget that dota's balance was basically broken for the first year and half of that game's existence?
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>>164718871
Not really, they have OP heroes that in are in every game (hi Luna!) and beg for patches constantly
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>>164719071

>Freeze is based on damage dealt within a certain timeframe
>Nano Boost doesn't make her freeze people more quickly

At least give her consistency buffs.
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Holy shit...


SOMBRA IS INSANE now
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>>164719174

>Luna
>OP

Just go kill her dude
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When did you realize everyone in /owg/ is garbage and has zero understanding of this game?
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>>164719107
We've just had tanks and healers nerfed, so offensive characters are in a better position now. Directly buffing offensive could cause even more imbalances.
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>>164719071
Of course she does, the cooldown on her self-freeze is too long, they really need to reduce it to make it fair :^)
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>>164719247
>.2 seconds off hack makes her INSANE

Fuck off, she is just the same, maybe people are just finally learning to play her like they did with "omg so shit" Ana who then got overbuffed
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>>164719129
Because people are dramatic and don't want their mains or waifus to be nerfed in any fashion.
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>>164719290
I'm just pretending to be retarded
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>>164719174
>Luna is OP

I bet you main Sombra
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>>164719247
I-is this true?
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>>164719247
I see you finally figured out the spray pattern, compadre
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>>164719081
Well, if 99% of the Mercy players weren't healsluts and actually took the character seriously, they'd probably listen.
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>>164719290
>thinks anything on 4chan is competent on anything
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>>164718871
Not at all, Dota 2's last event was the Boston Major and the same 12 heroes were consistently picked.
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>You can now have 4 emotes and voice lines equipped at once
Why is nobody talking about this

What voice line overlapping combos can you think of? Anything with boop on sombra
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>>164718695
>Dota 2 has a fairy balanced roster
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>>164718906
I don't know about the other guy, however, I think Dva will be getting the short stick at best, and the yeller treatment more likely.

Take for example reinhardt. Rein has 200 armor and 300 HP, but also has a 2,000 point shield, and is more than likely escorting / being escorted by his team.

Dva on the other hand, requires her to move towards enemies in order to do any damage - which was just nerfed - so she likely wont have as much dps or healing to back her up. She also doesn't have a 2k shield, and instead has a weirdly shaped shield on a timer, which she'll probably use to instigate a fight given that she has to boost in due to her movement speed, and the fact that her critbox is half the size of her already giant hitbox, which definitely doesn't make that already measly 100Hp difference seem that great.

I think she's a little over the top right now at 400 armor 200 hp, but i don't think it's necessarily because of Dva so much as it is ana being able to heal that huge armor pool for free, which enables Dva to do whatever she wants, similarly to the other tanks. It's another "treating the symptom instead of the cause" thing
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banning phase
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>>164718871
the "meta" changes every patch, but ever hero is viable in most games. Pro games favor a few dozen, but they have a marginal advantage at best most of the time.
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>no pharah or junkrat buffs
End my suffering
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Is making Mei ult charge slower the only good balance Blizzard has done in the past six months?
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>>164719416
shh dont tell em
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>>164719178
>Freeze is based on damage dealt within a certain timeframe

That's because you have to freeze them in one go of constant freeze blast. If you keep running away and then trying to freeze again, you might as well just be turning the thermostat down.

My freezer needs a buff cause it's not freezing the meat I keep taking out of it every 10 minutes.
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>>164719626
Pharah was just buffed and she's viable now
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>>164719519
Best upgrade in a long time tbqh
Now I won't have to choose between squatting on the Payload as Reaper or Slow Clap for whenever I get multiple kills with ult
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>>164719626
The fact that D.Va's matrix eats both your traps is just ducking retarded

An entir bear trap just vaporized instantly
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>>164719751
>not ana
>not lucio
>not a tank
>viable

shiggy
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>>164719626
>tfw no charge attack for Junkrat where you shoot up to 5 bombs at once
>>
REMINDER THAT WINSTON IS STILL UNPLAYABLE
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>>164719998
Yeah if you're trying to go for kills like a paste eater and not using your mobility to harass
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Gency is my favorite ship!
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>>164707773
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>>164719998
>Winston
>Is actually Loseton
What did Blizzard mean by this?
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>>164719605
She has a directional shield that deletes projectiles in an area and can nullify most ults just by standing near the person doing it and turning her shield on in their direction.

People act like the nerf is massive but all it is doing is making her more vulnerable to tank busters which she should be.
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>>164720085
We know, Chu.
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is this game any good on PS4?
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>>164708456

>US
>Mercy/D.va/Lucio
>Reaper
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>>164719316
I suppose you're right, lets wait and see.
>>
You need dps skills also. I mainly tank/support but when I climbed to plat S2 it took forever for me to realise sometimes you need to abandon your role and just go Tracer or something cause your shit dps can't actually get picks.
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>>164708456
US
Junkrat
Pharah
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>>164719923
Or they can make it so when you charge it shoots faster and at a flatter trajectory so that skill shots are more realistic
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>>164708456
Dominican Republic
Mercy
Zarya
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>>164720080
People bitch non-stop about Junkrat feeding ult to healers, wouldn't Winston be doing basically the same thing if he doesn't actually get kills?
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>>164720165
Well...

>is the game good?
Yes.
>are the players good?
Not really.
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>>164720085
Never post in this thread again
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>These PTR changes to Roadhog hook

Good fucking god, just switch the hook out with a whole other ability instead if this is what you're gonna try and do. You know, it was already too hard for all the fast, high damage characters, gotta make sure the Genji mains don't cry too much.
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>>164720353
Rare country mate.
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>>164708254
where are the patch notes?
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>>164720085
I hope Reaper kills Mercy and then Genji sudokus and they are retired from the game
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>>164720441
Get that harlot away from Pharah.
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>>164720369
The difference is one is chucking grenades from across an area while another is a 800 pound gorilla savaging your healers with a tickle gun while standing right next to you and them.

They have to deal with you and you either catch them when they are low or jump out and come back later. You can force a team to deal with you while your team does other things and put their healers on guard and not healing.
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What the fuck even is Hanzo's scatter shot.
He can aim it pretty much anywhere and it'll still ricochet up my ass.
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>go on leddit
>people tell me D.Va isnt a backline flanker

HOLD THE FUCK ON I SAY HOLD THE FUCK ON

HOW IS DVA NOT A BACK LINE FLANKER
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>>164720561
Simple Geometry
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>>164720581
Her damage is too low.
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>>164720369
Junkrat is mostly static. You can get damaged and leave. Winston can actually focus on someone like a healer
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>>164720581
Stay there, you fucking faggot.
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>>164720581
I'm telling you that buff enable a lot of shit dva players that just spammed guns at the enemy front line
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>>164720561
The art of deception.
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>>164720451
>Roadhog main anal devastation that they can't corner hook anymore
It's really funny because this fix and it is a fix and not a nerf because it was something that was broken works much in roadhogs favor.

You can kill any sub 300 health character now in one hook basically 100% of the time. That includes Reaper and Mei two rather large problems for hog in addition to Ana. Roadhogs hook was FIXED and then he got a huge buff.

There is nothing to whine about if you aren't some corner humping shitter.
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Holy shit Blizzard did it

they killed the Tank Meta
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>>164720451
Jesus christ

gfycat /LividFragrantClam
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>>164720451
>You know, it was already too hard

ahahahahahahha


AHAHAHAHASHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>164720626
ebin trolle
>>
Holy shit wait a second

If you are given your rating in the game based on your comparison to the skills of other players who play THAT hero, doesn't that mean to raise your rating you should play the hero that is played by the trashiest, most scrub tier players?

Doesn't that mean you should try to play Hanzo/Genji/Torb?
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>>164719247
I wouldn't go that far

It feels a lot less clunky now, if you see an opportunity for a good hack it's much easier to pulll it off
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>>164720878
If you're close enough to kill someone you aren't flanking anymore, you're standing in the middle of the enemy team.
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>Look at me! Securing the point!
>>
ITT: We're Blizard designing a new Hero
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>>164720874
>Can't read the words immediately after and parse a full sentence
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>>164720916
actually yeah that's basically it
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>tfw you're main is in the sweetspot between not being absolute fucking shit and not being a meta defining character that will get overnerfed
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>>164710435

>Shadman
>"fucking good artist"
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>>164721009
Memerat is literally the worst character in the game
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>>164720950
and tracer isnt a backline flanker either right?

shes a sniper that stand on building spraying her dual pistols
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>>164720916
Yep. Be ready to get tons of shit from your teammates. Your basically going to screw over your team hardcore but raise in the ranks.

You gonna get verbally raped every game
>>
COMP FAGS GET OUT OF ARCADE
NOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>164720976

>still thinks old hook was hard to land under ANY circumstances


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>164721009
>tfw you're main just got shafted
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>D.va on the nemy team with the Summer skin
>lose
I swear to god, every time.
It's like pottery.
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>>164721009
>Not being absolute fucking shit

I love Junkrat but he's in a really bad spot.
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>>164721053
Tracer has mobility and a hitbox that isn't huge, just like all the other flankers.
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>You don't even have to TRY to throw people in a pit with Roadhog anymore

Frauds cried about nerfs but this is a new era of bullshit
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>>164721009

>Junkrat isn't absolute shit

MUH GOLD DAMAGE

MUH TIRE POTG

MUH BEAR TRAP

TEAM TOO HEAVY
>>
Is Symmetra the least played Hero ever?
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>>164721086
Wtf I crush with dva and I use that skin.

Should I buy junker for the sweet midriff instead?
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>>164721078
Can you literally not read my man. Not even them but pretty sure they're saying the game was too hard on speedy characters in a jokey way and nothing about the hook.
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>>164720776
anas still the best target healer by a large margin, shes not going anywhere
and tnaks are still basically invincible when she ults them or grenades them, teams are just gonna run double hitscan now instead of 4 tanks because she actually has to focus one target

so i hope you enjoy being deleted trying to round any corner as any character but mccree/76 because hitscan outdamages, outranges and generally just oppresses every character that isnt also hitscan
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I've been a Lucio main since day one and it feels good that they can't touch me without the intention of completely ruining the character
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>>164720916

Torbzo had to get to GM somehow.
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>>164721292
>Symmetra
>When everyone complains about how op she is
top meme
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>>164708456

>Seattle, WA
>D.Va/Tracer
>Widowmaker
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>Chu HONESTLY used this cover as another excuse to slap Mercy and Genji together

>he used it as ANOTHER reminder that Ana's only job in the lore is to bring Jack and Gabe back together by shoving her directly between them with Ana looking like she's fucking trying to beckon Jack back over from his edgy grandpa ways

Chu, stop it. It's just a promotional cover for christ sake.
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>>164721418
Only absolute shitters think she's op.
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>>164721487
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>>164721482
Like reinhardt

Stay in front of your team and matrix, also make sure you shoot from afar
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>>164720458
Shitty Island in the caribbean. As shitty as my taste
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>>164718695
>How come Dota 2 has a fairy balanced roster with 112 heroes yet Blizzard seems to fuck up something every patch with just 23?

It really doesn't.

Imagine if you had ban picks in Overwatch. Of course there would be more varied hero play.
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>>164707773
Ana nerf is nothing. I'm still able to keep everyone alive and negate heals.

D.Va is getting rekt though.
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>>164721292
Up until she got that rework, yeah. Right now though I can't remember the last time I got a Sombra in a match.
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>>164721078
Why are you so illiterate.

>>164721332
Yeah that. With how much momentum shit like genjo and all those still have, they're gonna go flying behind or through geometry all the time and the hook's just 100% useless now when that's the case. Maybe if they made this change, while also stopping you flat on hook hit it'd make sense, but fuck, as it is they might as well have taken his ability away unless you somehow think all fights in this game happen in wide open featureless areas.
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>>164721482

>Play aggressively and go after targets you can handle (Snipers, turrets, etc) soldiers away from healers, etc

WTF where are you D.Va you're over extending

>Play conservatively as a tank blocking big damage ults, etc

WTF D.Va go after the Hanzo

Somewhere inbetween these two
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>>164721482
>pick D.va
>put gun in mouth
>meet Jesus
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>>164721563
At least it's not Haïti
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I am begging for an edit of this with Sombra and her Uzi
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>>164721292
its probably sombra now
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>>164711484
I browse /gif/ on my phone whenever I'm in the lobby, queuing etc
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>>164721563
>zarya
>shit taste
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>>164708456
UK
Ana/Mei
Junkrat
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>>164721552
>this cover probably implies and Old Soldiers part 2 soon since it's the same artist

>hopefully Bengal NEVER EVER touches a Junkrat arc ever
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>You can consistently hook + 1shot ana now

Good, you're no longer getting away you old cunt.
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>>164721552
NNNNNO
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>>164720916
well that explains why Im rank 3930 as a sombra main with a 37% win rate lol
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>>164708456
China
Ana/Rein/Symm
Mercy
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and they said roadhog was nerfed
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>>164721559
>Stay infront of team
>Get hooked by a roadhog since matrix doesn't block hook and go from 600 to 0 hp in a second
I dont think you are right anon
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>>164721487
>were it not for their unique designs, none of the characters faces would look anything like their IG or concept art counterparts

Bengal is such a fucking shitty artist. Just use Nesskain for everything you fucking hacks.
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>>164721841
congratulations on hooking a stationary enemy and an enemy in the open
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>past 10pm
>suddenly all arcade modes are infested with mouthbreathing retards who will never be esports enough
hmmmmm
america is 2 blame as usual
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>>164721841
Didn't they say specifically that this wouldn't happen?
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>>164721487
lucio eyeing dat THICC
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>>164719718

No, it's not buffing the freeze time even if you keep the beam on the target the whole time. Quit being retarded.
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>>164721893
>Not staying behind the Reinhardt to cover his barrier
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>>164721910
refer to >>164721762

Its very likely they had Bengal do this cover because Chu wants to hype up Old Soldiers part 2. He fucking highlighted Reaper, Ana, and 76's arc in that corner and Bengal was the artist for it.
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>>164721983
Americans would be going to sleep by now though?
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>>164721983
You know American schools and jobs dont get off around midnight, right?
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>>164719519
Wait what, really?
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>>164721943
>being this much of a faggot
I guess you could show hooking someone in a hallway, turning around, and physically blocking them from leaving as well.

>>164722008
The change is literally "pulls you in front of roadhog"
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>>164720962
Pharah is too strong, we need a long range hitscan character who can counter her.
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>>164721910
>Nesskain

I like his stuff.

>>164722008
>There is a cap on how far 'to the side' you can be pulled, so you can't just hook someone, spin 180, and dump someone off a cliff.
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>>164721689
That I will not fight it
>When to Haiti on a school trip because fuck my stupid school
>The horror. THE HORROR
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>>164721983
>Arcade while school is in session
>Chill times, fun all around
>School's out/Its the weekend
>META TEAMS
>SUPER SERIOUS, STOP FUCKING AROUND IN ARCADE
>WE NEED MORE TANKS MY ANA META
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>>164722020
That's because it's not based on damage done in a certain timeframe. Mercy damage boost and discord don't make freezing faster either.
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>>164720502
>that slight turn

NANI!?
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>>164721307
Every D.va legendary is good, so they're all worth it.
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>>164722136
His art is fantastic and it's miles more on-model than that cover art. Honestly, I'd be perfectly happy if Blizzard just tapped him to do all future comics.
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>>164720721
I did this if we needed a D.va
Just sit behind Rein's shield and hold shoot

I had like 15 minutes of D.va gametime before though, don't actually know how she's supposed to be played
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>>164721707
>Sombra's gun
>Uzi

You fucking wot m8? Not even remotely. It's closer to an mp7. Do you even /k/?
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Junker D.va doesnt shave
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>>164721743
Never brother. I was refering to the useless girl on my post
Zarya is love
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>>164721983
>THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FUN
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>>164722120
>>164722136
Oh boy, inb4 they see people having any fun with even the new shitty hook and """fix""" it too.
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>>164722241
>blizzard
>using good artists
They don't give much of a shit about comic quality, they'll literally hire anyone, even penny arcade, over a good artist.
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>>164722340
just more hair to pull anon
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>>164721487
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>>164722156
its pretty suspicious 2bh
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>>164722426
M8, I would take Penny Arcade any day of the week over what Bengal shits out.
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>>164722232
All dva skins are meh until they start releasing whatever their version of the super legendary ones will be and can then change all her voice lines.

>>164722340
I can get behind this though.
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>>164722340
Neither does regular D.va.
None of them bathe either.
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Will Hog's hook if someone runs behind a Rein shield like it would if it were a solid wall?
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>>164707676
What other buffs should Mercy get?
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>>164722515
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Anyone else getting disconnected from games all of a sudden? Never happened to me before the last two days.
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>>164722602
Hog's hook break*
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>>164707676
why is the match making so fucking bad
i'm level 16 getting matches against 100+'s and i literally can't do anything. i can't play against people the same level as me in any mode. this is hell
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>>164717686
Oogabooga gibsmedat diversity white boi. Purp drank or wes gun burn our own hood down, wut u do then copy lover?

Fuck off with this forced everything has to be equally represented shit is what I'm saying.
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Achievement for pushing players into traffic when?
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>>164722814
>Thrown Under the Bus
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>>164722743
The player level doesn't mean skill it means time.

Take it from me, a level 23 who gets 300+ teammates that do nothing for an entire match.

QP needs it's own MMR, it only uses your comp ranking, if you have none you just get in the giant pile of people who have no rank.
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>>164722426
They literally use fan art in their games
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>>164722779
>Level 20
>Joined in qp with a group of 60, 59, and 19
Why is this allowed
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>>164722908
Meant to quote >>164722743
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>Blizzard not doing shit about Symmetra or Zarya

Wonderful. Get ready to see a Symmetra and Zarya on every team after the next patch.
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>>164712815
>1/2 ton of German engineering slamming you into a wall at 30 miles per hour
>Shouldn't do 250 damage
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How the fuck do I turn off the sound in just the menu while queueing for a game, its fucking annoying
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>>164723137
why don't you just go pharah
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>>164723235

Because they're not doing anything to Soldier either
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>>164722875
>player that has 100+ hours
>player that has 4 hours

hmmm i wonder who will be the better one
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>>164723137
They already fixed Symmetra
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>>164721669
>people get attached to bug
>it gets fixed
>character ruined
Reminds me of all the genji players bitching about the wall reset and triple jump being fixed.
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This general is so slow tonight.
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>>164722875

Weird. I'm diamond in comp but get matched with people in gold for quick play I'd rather lose practicing my shitty DPS than win in QP
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>>164723306
>Bedtime
>All the waifuposting has stopped
Really makes you think
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When will Mercy become a mother?
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If feel like there should be a better and more visible point reward for speedboosting with lucio. You can go a whole round speedboosting everyone constantly but it just goes unnoticed comapred to the other support doing the healing.
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How is Sombra now? Still shit?

Is the 3 tank meta finally ending?
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>>164721841
hahaha holy shit

this is so fun i hope they dont patch it

if they're not going to let us hook someone then jump off a cliff with them they better allow this instead
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>>164723295
Like I said in the last post, there are people with hundreds of hours who are shit, and people with dozens who are amazing.

I also said the QP needs it's own MMR.

Don't be a fucking retard.

>>164723401
Don't people in comp sometimes get diamonds as gold and vice versa?
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Which D.Va skin is best and why is it B.Va?

>that cool contrast of black and yellow
>those little wing things on the MEKA
>that hair bun
>that BZZZZZZZZZ!

It's perfect.
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i cant wait to fuck her
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>>164723407
it's only 8 here, but the downtime between EU and East NA.
All is well.
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>>164723458
I prefer Junker, because I like it aesthetically more.
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quick, post best girl
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>>164723506
ayy lmao
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>>164723458
Her summer skin is the best one.

You do have it right?
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>decide to play some comp
>first game of the day
>guy picks bastion on koth completely unprovoked
>bastion and I manage to cap the point ourselves through some God given miracle
>rest of the team is nowhere to be seen for a good 30 seconds, look back and see them fighting a lone D.va or something
>the enemy team eventually respawns
>the two of us are still on the point, alone
>we lose that round
>next round Bastion goes Mei and does the ice wall thing, you know what I'm talking about, just being a complete fucking asshole
>my entire team is literally completely inept, I've never seen it this bad before
>we can't even get onto the point, let alone even fucking look at it
>lost a grand total of 30+ points for losing that game

I get it, git gud and all, but there was simply nothing that could be done in that situation. My only choice was to wait for them to win. But I shouldn't lose 30 points because some shithead decided to troll. How the fuck is that fair? And that clearly wasn't an even matchup, I was most likely not "meant" to win that game. There was no possible fucking way. Seriously, competitive in this game feels like an absolute joke. What's even the point? It's literally pure luck unless you're in a premade. That shit legit bummed me the fuck out, I really just don't want to even play anymore. I don't get it. I don't fucking get it.
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So where are the buffs for Our Girl?

She is getting buffed, right?
They wouldn't let her stay in the state she's been since launch, would they?
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>check PTR notes
>Lucio wasn't nerfed yet again

Fuck yeah. I was afraid Blizz would just remove his healing and speed boosts.
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Attacking on Oasis is probably the worst fucking thing I'll ever do. Actually, I've never defended on that map before.
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>>164718951
Probably Junkrat or something next to be honest, the guy's in a real bad spot. Like he can get gold damage and potg tires and whatever else, but so much just shits on various parts of him now through feature creep and various other unrelated buffs that he's either gonna get SOMETHING or just become even more irrelevant as anything other than a silly joke around pick.
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>>164723137
Symmetra is actually viable now.

If you honestly have a problem with here you are objectively bad
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>>164723676
>tfw "Why are you so angry?" "Can't stop won't stop" and "This is how you get tinnitus" spam

Maining Lucio has never felt this good.
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>>164723676
Lucio will never be nerfed, there's no way not to completely ruin him if you do.

Nerfing Lucio would just buff Mercy and make her used sometimes instead of never.
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>>164723407

>night time
>"really makes you think" memeposters enter the thread

Really gets those brain cells working

>>164723429

Roadhog's hook will no longer cross dimensions and D.Va's Meka armor has reduced armor, but remains at 600 HP. In addition, the healing boost for Ana's Biotic Grenade on allies has been decreased by 50%
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>>164723662
still doesnt need buffs, hitscan needs nerfs
she operates very well in an environment without 76/mccree/widow, the problem is that this literally has not existed since the games release
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>>164723809
What're you even on about? Lucio has been nerfed in almost all patches.
Decreased his HPS, decreased his speed boost, decreased his damage, and I'm sure I'm forgetting something.
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>>164723407
>All the waifuposters are busy jerking off since it's nighttime
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>>164723429

Only change to Sombra...

>The time it takes to hack a target has been decreased from 1 second to 0.8 seconds
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>>164723743
What's your favorite Zarya skin? Trying to decide which one I should get atm
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>>164723457
i mean what you said means nothing. level 10's should never even fucking see a level 100+. QP doesn't need MMR that would literally just make it comp. it just needs good match making
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>>164723802
>knock someone off cliff
>"That's how you get tinnitus!"
>"fucking nerf this lucio shit why can this piece of shit support knock back so far!"

Lucio is the only support I play.
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>>164724087
>>164724087
>>164724087
new thread, relocate when ready
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>>164723662
As much as I like the increased jetpack lift I still think that reducing her knockback turned her into a flying Junkrat because it's harder to finish people off.
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>>164723302
I don't play streetpig and can only interject, but the genji shit was actually an unintended thing that only got the axe after enough people found it and it became a problem. Hog hook was just being the way it always has been but enough ribbit posting shitters finally cried about it to get it changed under the guise of "I-It was a bug heh, heh, we fixed it guys!"
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>>164724003
Her normal epics are both great, though I think the black one is a little nicer. Getting it in a box was actually what got me to try her out for the first time.
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>>164723457

Maybe late at night or something. I hear it's a bigger problem with grand masters getting matched with diamonds. I've seen a couple plats.
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>>164724109
>10 posts early
what did he mean by this?
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>>164723890
Everyone has been saying this for months but at this point I'm convinced it has to be a problem with her as a character.
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>Team picks Mercy
>Someone disconnects in the first 30 seconds
>mfw
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>>164718951
Winston. Just make his shield less shit. Either lower the CD (or start it when he drops it) or give it some more HP
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>>164724246
I would but I'm in the bronze trenches, so I doubt I'd be any help even if we could queue together. Sorry, anon.
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>>164724214
>10 posts early
because I didn't want someone else to make it and not add PTR patch notes
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>>164723458
Junker by far the best.

>>164723639
The summer skins outside of the actual changes (And McCree) were bad. Dva had a low tier one even among those, why would you want shit korea's flag plastered on you.
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>>164724221
or the fact that hitscan has been overpowered for the games entire lifetime and people have stopped talking about it because its become "normal"
whats wrong with her is that she requires open space to operate, hitscan doesnt allow open space to exist, they cut down all sightlines and force shield play in which case theres no reason to pick pharah
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>>164723676
>Get jackpot voice line
>realize that when you spam it, it cuts off at the end of the WOOOO
>Push shitters off cliff while chimping out.

I fucking love playing Lucio
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>>164724003
The black one and Frosted. Her cyber-punk ones are okay.
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>>164723412
Not if she sticks to her current sexual regimen of anal only.
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>new mouse and chinkshit mic coming in mail soon

please god let this take me out of gold
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>>164721009
So Reaper?

Literally the most balanced character in the game atm.

If they really wanted to end the tank meta they should have just buffed his dmg on armor and shields.
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>>164723137
Zarya has already been nerfed, twice (well one was just a bug fix but still)
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>>164715336
>>164715531
>>164715207
>>164715021
Tobj using his hammer as a melee weapon during Molten Core is stupidly powerful, he turns into a four-foot pissed-off jackhammer that pulverizes your knees and then your skull.
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My eyes might just be garbage but I can't fucking see anything on Hollywood.
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>win
>10-12 points gained
>lose
>20-30 points lost

Am I missing something
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>>164722679
that one, proabably
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