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Shooting games never die edition

This general is for discussing all shmups/stgs (shoot 'em ups/shooting type games).

Previous thread: >>163707570 (Cross-thread)

Need something to play? Check this shit out: https://mega.nz/#!mlwG3ZCJ!NMdWxNY4pjqc1vFGwzyPIbtGor0GHObcfENNMgOQW1s

Join us on Steam! http://steamcommunity.com/groups/shmupg

>RECENT RELEASES:

DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu
http://store.steampowered.com/app/464450/

Mecha Ritz Steel Rondo
http://store.steampowered.com/app/463070

RefRain
http://store.steampowered.com/app/435970/

Shmups Skill Test
http://store.steampowered.com/app/430290/

WITCH-BOT MEGLILO:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/437020/

Blue Revolver
http://store.steampowered.com/app/439490/

>UPCOMING RELEASES:

Xydonia
http://www.indiedb.com/games/xydonia

iMalice
http://amamoriya.gozaru.jp/imalice/

Go Go Burunyanman Ecstasy!!! Steam-Edition
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=660224194

Other links
STG stream aggregator: https://stgrillz.appspot.com/

/shmupg/ high-score list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K0DesawgMQiFNMv2MZxxwdjzBudCIMMb3BkjQJaHjxI/edit?usp=sharing

/shmupg/ community YT channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp2e9X5tR9BLdSlIGjzftDA
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first for bump
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>http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime
tfw 300+ ms pleb
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>>164658453
bumping this

come back elnidfse!
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Experienced the Ketsui glitch where the 1UP ships in Stage 5 fly away before you can kill them

Good job it was in save state practice and not a run or I might have thrown my laptop
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5th for mid-school fish
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GRAZE IT
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Arise!

We can do better than this, anons.
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>>164709284

>no vic viper

GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY GENERAL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>164709284
>no fightan gaem based off of personified STG ships
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Shumps are for chumps.
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>>164708556
Sorry sorry! I'm still sick right now. So I've been devoting my spare time to album hunting
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ATLUS
PRESENTED BY CAVE
DO DO DO DO DO DO DO DO DODONPACHI
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>>164718746
Good series
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Why isn't Caladrius Blaze on the "upcoming releases" part of the main post?
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>>164726620
OP's a faggot
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>>164726620
It comes out next Thursday right? Does anyone know if it is good? I know that youtube shmup review guy that left the farm reviewed it, but I don't particularly care for his reviews.
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Crimzon Clover and Ikaruga are the 2 single best shmups ever made. They are so good that they play in their own league.
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>>164727979
t. naziboo pedo
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In my research, I have come to the profound conclusion that Battle Garegga may perhaps be the inevitable end of the line in terms of game design. A transcendental object at the logical end of a once thriving culture. A 4th dimensional, interactive tombstone.
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>>164728672
Battle Garegga is the greatest shmu-, no, the greatest gam-, no the greatest work of art of all time. It should be in a museum really, and pyramids should be constructed with cryogenic sarcophagi to preserve all the individuals involved with its creation.
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>>164728672
gb2 the farm
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>>164728672
For, all shmups have vapid, shallow game design. Why think you the genre died out with but a mere whimper, whilst others continued to evolve both mechanically and structurally? Shmups simply have nothing stimulatingly sophisticated to offer unto the player himself.
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garegga dads are so embarassing
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i bet if i had a dad i'd play better
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>>164737297
/shmupg/ younguns are similarly embarrassing
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6a86M1r8wU
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we must exterminate the local dad shits
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What games do shmup moms play?
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>>164737297
you can become a dad, it won't make you play better though
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>>164707750
Better yet, measure visual memory on there. I got 13k myself, I think I'm below average in memorising shmups. For the heck of it I did verbal memory too and got 215 on the first try, which is better than 100% of the site.
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>>164706283
you linked the wrong thread

>>164180925
>>164180925
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>>164740919
>I got 13k myself
13k ms? nice.
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http://pastebin com/hFqLXaE4

STG :
Cambria Sword
みらくるくるん
Phantom Sol
IKUSAAAAAAAN!!!
Chaos World
風の吹く丘で
Yakouga 08
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>>164741358
Is this from C91?
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>>164741492
Yes
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>>164741351
Are you trying to be funny? There are other tests on humanbenchmark.
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Getting kinda tired of seeing repeated or screenshot OPs, so I compiled a few DDP and Ketsui-related imagery for whoever makes the next thread if they don't have something new already.
https://mega.nz/#!ZhEV0Ayb!T0Ku-gLBp6tt2I0dK-0zGfLKoDzjXfyzWc30cUUPABM
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>>164741492
C91?
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>>164743357
Comiket 91
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>>164743740
Some nerd con. How is that relevant?
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>>164744636
>how is a con where a lot of new games, comics, music, and more get released all at once relevant?
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What the fuck is a "dad" in the context of shmups?
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>>164746092
nothing, some people are just forcing the grandad meme and attatching shmup names to it
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>>164745876
>games
Indie shit.
>music
Relevant how?
>comics
Relevant fucking how?
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>>164734284
touhou fags will always be the top of the embarrassing table, soon as someone says they're into touhou you know it's a power virgin retard with the social acceptance of soggy cookie in a library.
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my favourite ship is Marisa x Alice
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my favorite mount is Casper
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this is my favorite ship
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>>164749187
I could do without Alice, but Marisa is pretty choice.
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stage 7 bitch
first time
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>>164752664
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>>164752836
actually reach bh, just stupid died
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page 9 meme
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>page 10
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shmupg's sleepy today
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how to be talented
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>>164762961
It's my day off, which means sleepy time! I'm sorry guys.
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>>164764105
get a stick
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Nothing will feel the hole.
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>>164765317
what hole
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>>164765694
FILL FILL FILL

NOOOOOOO
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>>164765317
I want to feel this hole!
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Bomber!
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/shmupg/ is so dead, I think it's time to let it die
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Is autofire cheating if the japanese use it to get their world records?
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>>164775137
because friday, everyone fuck some chicks
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>>164775304
Yes it is, but it's such a convenient cheat, that it's allowed to use. The records just get seperated into auto fire on, and auto fire off.
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>>164775137
If people are only going to shitpost might as well kill it right now, and revive it when there's more to discuss or bitch about.
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>>164750176
Like a horse? Casper is not a horse.
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i like these bullets color
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>>164775757
2bloody4me
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>>164738845
time to DAD IT UP
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>>164772592
Why was this deleted?
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>>164777546
was it a bird? birds are not allowed here
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>>164775137
Tbh I've been playing let it die instead of shmups for like a week.
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>>164775757
> oh wow there's a button to slow down the bullets
> ez game
> why them bitches red now
> oh shit
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>>164775137
at least it's not as dead as 8ch,net/stg/index.html
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>>164706283
Where's Caladrius in the UPCOMING RELEASES?!!!
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>>164785007
The OP is just a copy/paste of the last one
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>>164780981
>Tbh I've been playing
THIS DESU LADS, hows erryones shump day been? i got another E in armed police nutwiper, some shoddy guwange efforts and my first scrub clear for raiden dx middle course.
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>>164786943
>>164780981
Have been playing Mount & Blade myself a lot... have been neglecting my beloved Darius a bit...

I'm just always too tired for shmups in the evening...
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>>164786943
Been going pretty good, got a new best time in the Flying King level of Earthworm Jim 2.
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>>164786943
Terrible. Can't get past stage 4 in casual Greg, and Department of Justice I lost a really good run by having to answer a phone call.
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Anyone know a good way to enable turbo on one of the keys in a keyboard.
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Nobody talking about Magfest in DC right now? They got like 5-6 rotating shmups cabinets on Freeplay. Even had Armed Police Batrider last night
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>>164789875
>keyboard
lmao dude kill yourself
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>>164777773
the post was an image of a file named "04.btga_stg1.nsf" and the text "randomly found garegga 8bit cover"

they should link it here
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are you hyped for memerunning?
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>>164792351
I feel the HOYP for all the memerunning events
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>>164792351
Any shoot them downs gonna be there?
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>>164792351
>are you hyped for memerunning?
nope, it's a disingenuous sell out cringefest to line the pockets of cunts. vid related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG6hPJpxzm4
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>>164792351
I don't really like memerunning but I'm happy that there is something to watch 24/7 for when I'm practicing or going to sleep~
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dadquas streaming du2
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what did YGW think of the local dad shits?
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>>164797601
they should kill yourself
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>>164795726
Is it true that speedrunning takes more skill than scorerunning?
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>>164799693
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
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>>164799693
Did you remember Arcade Superplay Expo?
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>>164799693
memerunning takes no skill at all
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>>164803806
Then why aren't you going into memerunning to make Twitchbux off it?
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I tried speedrunning a game once. It took about a month or two before I got to a time that I was satisfied with and by the end of it I hated the game so much that I didn't even want to look at it for like two years after that. Speedrunning can be incredibly frustrating.

I just had to do about 8 captchas in a row for this post. Fuck your street signs.
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>>164806442
I'm not autistic enough to speedrun.
I'd rather play a bunch of different games than play a single game an innumerable amount of times.
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>>164806442
both speedrunning and scorerunning could be frustrating when you need to do specific stuff 100% correctly
at some point scorerunning in shmups still forgiving though, the most time you will throw up for a failed run only 30-40 minutes run, compared with a long 12 hours speedrun like rpg
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imagine being retarded enough to memerun an rpg
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>>164810792
You forgot to say "speedrun" an rpg for 10+ hours
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>>164741358
The Iku-san game seems pretty decent compared to the others, it revolves around using a bunch of short hypers and a special weapon, and the bullets are fairly fast.
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Speedrunning is fun when you find a game that you enjoy and that actually works well as a speedgame.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP5xeO3K6OI

reeeeeeee
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>>164819684
rip
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Can Windia save /shmupg/?
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>>164819691
>A girl's first action game.

What did they mean by this?
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>>164822480
She can do anything!
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>>164823484
Except be best girl
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>>164825729
But she IS best girl! And a warrior fighting on the side of Darius!!
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>>164825923
An unholy war against benevolent fish just looking for their place in the world. So she truly is evil then. Thank you for exposing her, anon.
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Raiden feels like kung fu training.

I'm assuming I'll eventually be able to read these bullets like a jedi, right? Because right now some of this shit is so fast I barely even see it come out before I'm dead.
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WARNING
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>>164829253
Not really. Either memorise where they come from and position yourself appropriately or die.
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>>164805651
>Then why aren't you going into memerunning to make Twitchbux off it?

Haha he thinks being good at speedrunning brings in the viewers.
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>>164829253
raiden is all about memorizing the enemy spawns and execution.
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>>164832180
Not true. In reality it is about ignoring the power-ups to not bump into the bullets when collecting them.
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>>164831812
BE CAREFUL
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>>164831812
A HUGE BATTLESHIP
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So Icarus went full weeb now and only posts waifu shit?
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>>164832929
Such is the inevitable fate of us all
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>>164832050
Worked for Siglemic.
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If I'm not wrong, the most profitable individual streaming is done by top level FGC players. I might be wrong though. I don't really pay attention.

I've also heard that streaming games for money works well if you're a hot girl, wear a tank-top, and make your playercam 70% of the screen. Unless that's just /v/ shitposting.
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>>164836319
Oh well then as you've presented a single case one must assume it's a universal law! dipshit.
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>>164836565
>I've also heard that streaming games for money works well if you're a hot girl, wear a tank-top, and make your playercam 70% of the screen. Unless that's just /v/ shitposting.

Its true, beta males are a fucking cancer.
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>>164838974
Well damn. At that point you might as well just shell out money for actual porn.

>>164840168
I don't, but if you're open to other options, T98-Next worked well for me back when I was playing the PC-98 Touhous.
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>>164840637
PC-98 has another cool shooters
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>>164842320
>PC-98 has another cool shooters
phteven?
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twitch tv/owarabi

SDOJ
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>>164844034
>SDOJ
semi intrigued to play this desu but fuck me it's one ugly baby and has the usual retard speed change courtesy of SHit-3
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>>164775625
what auto-fire speed i should use? the fastest?
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>>164844950
one shot per frame
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Ded
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>>164846092
so 60 shots per second?
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>>164850409
yes
some games actually has 60 shots per second
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Fuck all!
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>>164854329
>ribbon on leg
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>>164855717
those are knives she stores there for throwing
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What sort of innovations would you guys like to see in the genre? Some kind of new idea or mechanic that would refresh the whole thing because it seems a bit stale to me, just variations on the theme. Or is it impossible since the already small player base would shun it as not a "proper" experience and no one would play anything that strayed too far from the mean.

Also, as a bonus, if you could design and implement your ideal STG, what would it be like? Describe it.
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>>164857272
A complex AI system that learns your style and exploits it. It wouldn't be hard to do if you implemented it in a low level language like C or wrote your own LISP for it.
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>>164857272
>your ideal STG
without animeshit
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>>164857272
I don't really know. I can only think of broad answers, like a loli shmup that doesn't come off as cringey or weird. Something like that's probably impossible though... so I guess I'll just go with a Deathsmiles 3 with a Valentine's Day theme. Jeez, that would probably be on the absolute opposite side of the scale from what I said...
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>touhou exits over ten years
>still no options for control remapping
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I've been toying around with the idea of making a shmup. I would rather it be PC and market towards the touhou and anime neets, but something tells me an IOS release would make me money. idk though.
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>>164861878
gross
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>>164863678
You're wrong!
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>>164863624
>an IOS release would make me money
A few things senpai.
1) I don't think the ray series did too well
2) For that matter I'm not sure if DB did well on that either
>market towards the touhou and anime neets
Given the amounts of derivative nonsense that already exists on the market you'd probably need some pretty solid gameplay
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>>164863624
>Shmup
>touch screen controls
How fucking horrifying. I'm not sure how much of a market there is for such a game desu, since I don't touch apps ever. But aren't the money makers viral meme flavor of the month like Flappy bird or Pokemon Go? Which usually comes down to luck/right time right place. If you're talking about a straightforward, traditional bullet hell then you'd probably be best off on PC I'd imagine. I think successes on phones need mainstream appeal/some dumb gimmick/viral campaign. A shmup doesn't, really. Unless you're gonna make a LOL CAT FIREZ LAZARS OUT ITS ANUS SO RANDOM type deal.
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>>164865473
>LOL CAT FIREZ LAZARS OUT ITS ANUS SO RANDOM type deal.
wouldn't sell either
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>>164863624
>thinking about making a profit before making a game
western shmup devs. kys
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Finally got the buttwider advanced clear, pretty happy with an F score.
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>>164857272
>What sort of innovations would you guys like to see in the genre?
Given my bias, the innovations I've wanted to see in the genre have already been done.
Everything r-type and tactics (everything that's related to using your force)
Twinkle Star Sprites and Senko no Ronde Duo (vs shooters)
Kokuga (not really a shmup though right)
the entirety of parodius (stage objectives)
Einhander and Strania (weapon appropriation action)
G-Darius (so I can snatch people like i'm playing Triggerheart)
something something 2000 (completely customizable ships forever)
Psyvariar 1+2 (graze the bullets)
Zero Gunner (360 control)
Under Defeat (swivel control) (also alternate history that doesn't just suddenly break out laser beams)
Radirgy and Karous (but neither of their sequels)

and I could go on for a bit yet but i'm skipping and hurting the point which is;

>just variations on the theme.
Innovation's always existed in some capacity before. But, everything works off of a base. A proper refinement of some things we've seen up to this point done better is more important than just having the same skeletal structure but then throwing in something wacky.

>Also, as a bonus, if you could design and implement your ideal STG, what would it be like?
Time for the Bias to set in.
That's already been made for me in the form of Border Down. Variations of the same level played out different per ship. Boss battles that require as much effort as the stages to get to them and more. A break laser. (Which mind you I probably prefer using my force in r-type more but...) Variations on stages depending on performance. Dynamic difficulty that gives enjoyment to both casual and scoring runs. A storyline that's grounded in the reality of that world without getting fantastical or overly unrealistic. A downer ending

Border Down at it's core was a spiritual successor to Metal Black.

and I ran out of space
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>>164866675
>Car-pet S solo
mah naig!
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What are some good shmups that have really intuitive scoring systems? Something a little more than "don't die and collect everything," but not an entire all or nothing system that forces you to play the game a different or strict way like dodonpachi chaining.

Stuff like Raiden's flash shot system, getting bonus score for not missing pickups or collecting them fast or high on the screen, things like that.
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>>164874229
>high on the screen
touhou
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>>164874229
I thought ALLTYNEX Second scoring was pretty intuitive. Plus since all the chaining is broken into segments losing one chain wont bomb your score hard.
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does anyone have the cracked version of dodonpachi resurrection?
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>>164874229
CCWI and Ikaruga have the best scoring systems.
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>>164869409
Word it's the only way i can really enjoy batrider, the team bullshit its to annoying and i like to play aggressively which carpet can to milk and thus forth. This is my first clear of advanced to mostly thanks to the easiest variation of discharge rng i think ive ever seen.
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>>164874965
>does anyone have the cracked version of dodonpachi resurrection?

mate it's a google search away.

>>164875292
Go choke on a currywurst you annoying kraut faggot, your taste in games is shite bar satazius.
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>>164875443
yes, but i don't trust those dodgy sites. was wondering if there was a mega link floating around here
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>>164875712
They aren't dodgy i dled mine when it came out, its the pre ketsuipachi fix version though.

Spoonfeed for baby
skidrowreloaded.com/dodonpachi-resurrection/
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>>164875904
>Spoonfeed for baby
actual spoonfeeding would be telling me which of those 1000 DDL sites on skidrowreloaded actually work, because they haven't uploaded a torrent.
i've already tried them all and gotten nowhere
>DoDonPachiResurrectionrar.exe 1.2MB
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another bad day for crimzon clover
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>>164857272
I get the feeling that at this point shmups have already innovated a lot, it would take something very gimmicky to innovate; and to make that gimmick not feel gimmicky would probably take a lot of effort

>>164860556
this
I just want cave to go back to the roots of DoDonpachi and make it militaristic again but that will never happen
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>>164878780
Cave has always been animeshit. Even Ketsui is animu even though people always claim it wasn't. It's fujoshi shit pure.
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>>164879602
It's a lot less anime than DFK and SDOJ. The anime dolls of DOJ didn't bother me much, and neither did the end stage character portraits in Ketsui. The only problem for me is when the anime becomes part of the gameplay, meaning stuff like the anime mecha bosses of DFK and really annoying anime announcers of SDOJ
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>>164862948
just use autohotkey
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>>164857272
I don't think innovation is really what the genre needs, it just needs to go back to its roots and focus on good game design rather than throwing new gimmicks onto the pile to try and make things fresh.
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>>164875443
Pls no bully the Russian rape babies.
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>>164879602
>Implying Ketsui was Cave's first game
Have you never seen Dodonpachi
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>>164881402
DDP just didn't have the budget for animu artworks. Otherwise it also would be full of it.
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>>164881679
Citation needed
DDP and DP were very clearly going for a modern (modern for the time that is) "MURICA" army theme
where would anime fit in there
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>>164882098
>where would anime fit in there
The same way how it fits into Ketsui, DOJ, or whatever.
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>>164882540
So it wouldn't have changed all that much, then?
I'm really not seeing what the problem is.
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>>164882716
I'm not the one complaining here. To me Cave is pretty cheap anyway, no matter if animu or not.
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>>164874229
Ketsui
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>>164884969
>ketsui scoring
>intuitive
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Cave needed more NAKED ANNIE MAY TITTAYS.

Then maybe they wouldn't have gone out of business.
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>>164885484
Maybe not intuitive, but its simple once you know how. Plus its a lot more flexible than DDP
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>>164885496
I don't think they necessarily lacked those.
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>>164885683
>but its simple once you know how.
the only ppl who believe this meme are noobs who know fuck all about scoring past 100 mill first loops, ketsui is very complicated.
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Has anyone played Caladrius Blaze on PS4?
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>>164886081
ketsui is shit
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>>164886235
And? your subjective opinion has nothing to do with stating the facts of the game. Only spergs randomly yell out irrelevancies.
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I'm gonna practice stage 6 until I can beat it with closed eyes
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>>164886975
you should never die to bhs vulcan sweep em, stay at the same height the lines cross at when you move left to right.
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>ketsui stage 5
>the helicopter before midboss flies offscreen and disappears and denies my 1up
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Dangun is best gun.
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>>164887738
If you're using tiger destroy the turrets as fast as possible and then lock onto the second ship immediately.
If you're using panzer you're gonna need to put more effort into it. Prepare yourself to stream and cutback the helicopter's missles while in shot in order to clear the turrets you aren't going to be able to kill the turrets fast enough with panzer's slow lock), and then use shot on the helicopter until you can get close enough to lock onto it if necessary
in my experience it only happens when you don't kill the turrets fast enough and don't have enough time to destroy the helicopter, so do whatever is necessary to get those turrets down ASAP
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>>164862948
Are you using keyboard? Remapping works fine for controllers but I haven't tried it for keyboard.
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Is there any shmups with furfaggots in them?
The only ones I know of are the Maho games and Garegga, and for all of these its the same character.
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>>164892197
Sine Mora is the only one I know of
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>>164892197
dont forget batrider
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>>164892197
the one I'm making
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Lovely bassline and trumpet~!

https://files.catbox.moe/hraem9.mp3
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>>164894179
what's this from?
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>>164894871
Dariusburst!

Namely the Second Prologue smartphone version!
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>>164895030
>>164894871
Though it's also in DBCS of course!
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How to enter Ura Route in DFK BL with bomb and strong styles? Destroying silos doesn't seem to be working.
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>>164892197
Steam Hearts

Play it on PC-98 for max lewd.
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>>164895574
I dunno I practiced it for two hours once and could never consistently make it work even when it looked like I destroyed them.
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>>164895935
>catgirls
>furry
pick one
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>>164880442
fuck off local dad shit
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>>164893015
o-oh?
go on...
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>>164893015
>HEYposting
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gn, /chmopgi/
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>>164899109
Take what you can get, mate.
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bumo
>>
ded genre
ded thred
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>>164887240
Thanks, will keep in mind.
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DaiOuJou, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying And Love the Bomb twitch tv/draconicimpulse
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FOR GENSOKYO!
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C'mon Windia save the thread already
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>>164914582
there is no saving something that is already dead
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>>164915269
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Which Desusniff wud u fugg?
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do you guys need another member of the shmupg team to help keep the thread alive?

i dont really play too many shmups but i can learn and i love helping decent but dying generals being pushed out by all the nonsense!
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>>164916268
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>>164916690
the threads always seem to be in a perpetual state of death towards these hours, never dying but never alive either.
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>>164916690
You dont need to play shmups to write "bump" or get into and argument with cee.
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>>164916690
sure, welcome on board!
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>>164916690
>decent but dying
mediocre and dead, desu
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>>164918078
>>164918124
>>164919206
>>164920045
hi my new friends

what is your favorite shmup game??
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>>164920385
Cho Ren Sha
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>really enjoy shmups
>can't play them because every time I die I lose my fucking shit and start punching my desk
>literally no other type of game frustrates me even a tiny bit
what do
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>>164920385
Border Down
Really wish I could get over the sickness so I could go back to failing everyday.
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good shmups choice this week
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv286660379
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>>164920385
Espgaluda
I really like its scoring system and difficulty curve
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>>164920385
Ikaruuugaah!!
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>>164920684
Now it's premium
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>>164920920
just refresh it
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>>164920565
>can't play them because every time I die I lose my fucking shit and start punching my desk
>literally no other type of game frustrates me even a tiny bit
Once you end break something really important it'll wear off fast, believe me.
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>>164920741
ok this one is on the shmup mame thing i just downloaded, cool i'll give it a try
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>>164921665
You'll have to look up how the scoring works, it's not exactly intuitive, but I like it because it's not super "all or nothing" or anything like a lot of other shmup scoring systems. You can sorta make your own routes and it's built around bullet canceling but it's not overdone.
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>>164921665
If you're just going to go by the mame pack, play Batsugun Special and play as Beltiana. That particular version is pretty easy.
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>>164920385
mushihimesama and desusniffers
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>>164920385

gradius v
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>>164922941
im not only going off the mame pack, im just trying to find out all the ones you guys like and adding them to the list of games to try out

but good ones off the mame pack is helpful, i can jump right in
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>>164920385
Mars Matrix.

I liked the fact it has no enemy collisions. Are there any other decent shmups that don't have enemy ship collisions? Pisses me off.
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>>164920385
>>164925532
MECHA Ritz is really good it starts out super easy but you can adjust the starting difficulty to make it as hard as you want. There's also a steam version with double the stages and double the selectable ships if you find the freeware version fun.
http://www.freem.ne.jp/win/game/8513
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>>164925564
Mostly Psikyo games. It doesn't kill you, but decreases your power level.

You can do that in Soukyugurentai too, but only against specific enemies.

Maybe in Shippu Mahou Daisakusen too.
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>>164926558
Not finding a download link there at all, anon. I guess I have to register first?
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>>164926558
>>164928537
NVM that, this is the direct download link from that place
http://www.freem.ne.jp/dl/download/win/8513/1a0d761fe9c24a16591e707d8391a115
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>>164928537
It's near the bottom, in the orange box.
>MECHA RitzDownload無料ゲーム 「MECHA Ritz」 のDownloadは、ココをクリック!

>>164928647
The direct download links for that site seem to have one-time usage, that's why I didn't link it directly.
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>>164928780
Thank you, anon!
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>>164928859
No problem, have fun.
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Up
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>>164931383
Put that down, that's unbecoming of a lady
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>>164931383
UP
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>>164931514
Down?
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>>164932068
This escalated quickly
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>>164920385
Perfect Cherry Blossom
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>>164932068
Go on
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>>164921138
I had to buy a new desk because it's literally falling apart from me punching it
I haven't set up the new one yet, but I'm not sure if that'll make it stop

I mean I can keep myself from punching shit, but it doesn't stop the fact that dying once in these games puts me in a horrible mood
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>>164933979
>but it doesn't stop the fact that dying once in these games puts me in a horrible mood

sounds like you're a baby that has never learned anything hard in life before, grow up stop being a whiny bitch learn to love failure and press on.
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Put a credit in Ketsui. Got to stage 4 on my first credit.

Meanwhile I can't consistently make it to stage 4 in the game I'm playing.
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>>164931383
and dance
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>>164932068
Her eyes are really far apart.
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>>164934956
I know... It's also a sketch, and I usually don't draw in such an uguu style.
>>
Friendly reminder that Degica are scumbags, selling broken products.
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>>164936167
consumer is king, stop buying them and the problem goes away.
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>>164934638
What's the other game you're playing?
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A woman with nice, big bags of ice for my head.
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>>164944043
>posting old hags
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Did I deserve this death, /shmupg/?
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>>164946871
use bomb
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>>164946871
Yes. It should be possible to unfocus, or pass through a blue wall.
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>>164920385
>no one named shmupg's official game, CCWI
ebin
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>>164948713
i'm here
ccwi is my favorite, i played doujin version in 2012 maybe, not seriously like now
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DON'T YOU DARE GIVE UP!!
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I am hyped for agdq, fuck shmups
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>>164938747
Crimzon Clover
>>
Reached stage6 boss in first credit, i'm good.
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>>164934638
I got to level 4 on my first credit too, then I couldn't do it again consistently for like 10 hours
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>>164954121
You don't play shmups anyways
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>>164956246
just downloaded bunch of touhous
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>>164948713
>>no one named shmupg's official game, CCWI
because that garish doujin shite is not and never will be.
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>>164956468
>sold more than all caveshit
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>>164954238
Well thats because CC is harder than Ketsui
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>>164946871
HAHAHA ENJOY THE OPEN LOOP FAGGOT
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>>164956404
a god
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>>164959727
>>
fatchouli is such a hottie!
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>>164865473
Touch screen controls are very precise. They just feel weird.
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>>164958261
CC Original on Arcade is an easy-ish clear though. You just need to have deliberate routes to avoid getting cornered and/or suddenly killed. Actual dodging skills required are minimal.
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>>164946871
According to the game, every death you get you deserve. We can't really argue that unfotunately.
The problem there was that you let yourself get overwhelmed by the pink bullets. I usually tend to try and move around enough so that I can macro-dodge some of the bursts of pink bullets before they disperse too much, though this may be a panzer-only strat. Practice it, see if it works out for you. Whatever you do next time to get through this pattern, staying at the bottom is probably not your best option.
Also what was that "Playback Ended" business about?
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>>164965281
The list puts it quite a bit above a Ketsui 1ALL though
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>>164966479
can you make a txt file of this?
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>>164966479
Remember, this list absolutely wrong.
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>>164967681
http://pastebin.com/c48URfc1
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>>164965719
That's pretty good advice. I'll be more aggressive during that pattern next time. Getting that far in a run still makes me feel a little bit nervous about using fast movement to macro-dodge because it's easy for me to run into a bullet by accident.

>Also what was that "Playback Ended" business about?
That was simply the replay ending. I use "Play and Record Input" to have a replay. If you watch your replay, you'll get that Playback Ended message when you left the game during your recording. (I quit shortly after dying so that's why it's there)
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>>164968334
how replay input works, if tons of rng happens
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>>164966479
I guess getting those routes ready is the hard part.
>>
>>164966479
>1 for using Tiger Schwert
>implying having faster speed outweighs faster lock on
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>>164969051
It's replay magic.

>>164972414
The faster movement is incredibly helpful in the 2nd loop
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>>164972414
the speed makes survival a fair bit easier in the loop.
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>>164956925
Literally proving it's casual trash for plebs.
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What's the easiest game here? I need to 1cc something to lift my spirits.
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>>164977915
Astebreed felt pretty easy, even on Hard because of the sword. Took me 13 hours in total to 1cc Normal and Hard.
>>
SELL TOUHOU MERCH
SELL TOUHOU MERCH
SELL TOUHOU MERCH
SELL TOUHOU MERCH
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>>164977436
>that cavedrone
>>
>>164977915
DDPR is an easy 1 all on 1.5 with strong
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>>164980148
easy before stage 5
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>>164980148
No it's not!
I need something easier

>>164978536
yeah, I remember that being pretty easy. I'll look into it.
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>>164980340
Easier than DDPR 1.5? Try mecha ritz steel rondo .
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>>164980340
>No it's not!
>I need something easier
It really doesn't get much easier than that. With autobomb you effectively get like 30 lives.
>>
Give me a fun game to play for survival /shmupg/
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>>164982327
Darius Gaiden
>>
>>164982327
2hu's
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>>164982327
DBCS
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>>164982327
Cotton Boomerang
>>
Got a squeaky LS-32, what's the fix?
>>
>>164982448
>>164982694
>>164982757
no horis pls

>>164982687
already cleared them all on hard
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>>164982817
Get a JLF
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>>164982845
Cho Ren Sha 68k
>>
>>164982845
Triggerheart Exelica
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>>164982845
>already cleared them all on hard
it was long?
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>>164982845
so clear them on lunatic then?
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>>164982845
>no horis
>plays 2hu
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>>164983267
I do have a JLF, but anon, I'd rather not.

Been using this LS-32 for a few months now, it squeaks fairly occasionally but enough to make a persistent impression during long sessions. I'm aware this is a very generic question, but Google returns nothing on Seimitsu and maybe someone here has the experience.
>>
>>164983983
loony mode isn't fun
>>
>>164984184
so are all 2hufags in shmupg actually rejects who failed lunatic and turned to easy shumps?
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>>164984626
yea lol
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>>164984626
yea i failed beating the easy games so i turned to the hard games xD
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>>164985078
most arcade shmups are easier than 2hu lunatic
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>>164985195
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>>164985424
post your lunatic clears
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>>164985195
I wouldn't say this because of how many lives 2hu gives you if nothing else.
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>>164985195
survival maybe but poohou is an ugly stupid cunt game scoring wise and about as interesting as a cock moulded from cheese, all poohou fags are mentaly retarded fuck bois aswell.
>>
>>164969051
it doesn't work 100% of the time tho, it may desync
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>>164979313
>implying CC isn't popular for being a cave clone on a format that no one thought cave would appear on.
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>>164987608
<3
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>>164987608
>cee is fine guys he's just using spastic insults to hide his valid points
>>
imagine hanging out with fatchouli in that big library all day long...

all the books!
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>>164988117
she's not fat!!!!
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'23:14 Aquas: Pro'lly another 10...'

More like... STGNever, LOL
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>>164987986
touhou fags are mentally ill fuck ups almost exclusively, a perfectly factual valid point.

>>164988670
Storing some back up crumbs in his neckbeard.
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>>164988670
This, especially now because Cream apparently quit shmups thanks to Gus making her go full Tumblr.
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>>164987784
cc is not cave clone, you stupid cavedrone
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>>164989446
based gus
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>>164989558
CC is as CAVE as it gets, you don't know what you're talking about as always
CAVEST game ever, with a lil bit of Raizing
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>>164989446
>Cream apparently quit shmups thanks to Gus making her go full Tumblr.

What? explain?

>>164989558
Yes it is.
WTF why isn't cream on stgweekly? I'm out.
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>>164989446
Including some bonus material to the post.
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>>164989776
Is it really Cave if it doesn't have massive amounts of slowdown to make the game even possible to beat?
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>>164989776
Try play something else except caveshits, stupid cavedrone.
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>>164989791
>explain?
He apparently posted some gore(?), which triggered her so fucking hard that she fucking deleted her own Discord server and that happened on the 31st.
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>>164989975
>derp
the post.

>>164990014
Try being a less arrogant dickhead german.
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>>164990148
lmaooo wtf?
>>
>derp
dont do that
>>
dero
>>
>>164990190
are you raped by germans
>>
Cream i know you're here, pull yourself together and get back to hosting stg weekly.
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>>164990190
>>derp
>the post.
What did you mean by this?!
Of course, it's possible your post was satire anyway! But I've never played a Raizing game so I wouldn't know!
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>>164989791
>Yes it is.
If you a retarded cavedrone.
>>
>>164990736
New seekrit club when
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>>164990338
I don't know whether was that true or not, but it was definitely bizzare when the server suddenly dissapeared from my server list.
It was also rumoured that she quit shmups for a new year's resolution and because of other reasons, like personal stuff and burning out hard.
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>>164990663
>are you raped by germans
good one but i think you'll find it's the germans that get raped not do it.

>>164990776
If you think slowdown is a defining factor above all other design aspects and can't see how CC is blatantly a cave styled game by a cave player i dont know what to tell you.

>>164990834
cool germanglish dr currywurst.
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>>164989776
Its not cave, its cave done right.
plus its soukyugorentai, not raizing
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>>164990014
stop acting like "your" game (made by CAVE-lover TAC) isn't a mix of DOJ, Ketsui and Soukyugurentai and its scoring doesn't feel 100% Cavish

go back drawing klein mädchen and quit talking about shmups
>>
>>164990993
I haven't logged in in ages but just checked and yeah it's gone. Tbf strikers 45 loop is enough to burn out anyone and if it's for life reasons then fair enough, she is a legit good player though better than most the queermos here.
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>>164991026
Boss fights is pretty raizing i guess.
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>>164991026
>plus its soukyugorentai, not raizing
duh

Boss 4 is from Dimahoo too
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>>164991074
no, i want see your butthurt more
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>>164991336
>i want see your butthurt more
gay.
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>>164991074
it also has some psikyo in it (boost mode)

and im not the only ccwi fan here, chav
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whats that wobbling sound on stream? is aqaus or zil having a sneaky wank?
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>>164991783
Apparently nor am i because>>164991074

isn't me Hanz shlongengraber, and no it's nothing like psikyo more a crazed raiden fighters,
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>>164989446
>Cream apparently quit shmups thanks to Gus
BASED
A
S
E
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>>164991783
i'm not c but wathever
i'm CCWI player too anyways, this is a great game, great CAVEZING digest desu
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>>164992024
pretty sure she'll be back, internet quiters always come back
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>>164992034
its more than just a cave raizing mix
its better than any game these companies ever did
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>>164992034
I don't feel CCWI like cave games. So, is not cave clone.
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>>164992361
lmao what a faggot otaku drone. It's a plastic cheap looking doujin with wanky movement speed.

>>164992445
it's inspired by cave clearly as TAC is a cave player mostly.
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>>164992445
did you ever play ketsui or doj for score? you would feel it if you had.

>>164992361
still, it doesn't really invent anything.

also TA mode is Hudson
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Just stumbled on this over at /vg/ in their Amateur Game Development thread:

https://monolithdevs.itch.io/monolith

Grab the demo, it's pretty damn fucking good. Twin stick shooter/dungeon crawler with elements of bullet hell. Definitely one to keep an eye on.
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>>164992614
>what a faggot otaku drone
you are the cave drone here, chav, not me
cave is good, but ccwi is excellent

>>164992772
>still, it doesn't really invent anything.
the items after stage are original
i also find boost mode quite innovative

plus it doesnt have to be original
much more important is that it has good design
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>>164993159
>much more important is that it has good design
>garish ugly sprites
>hard to see shit amongst such mess
>none of the ships have nice movement speed

yeah,no. I'll admit i might play some boost soon.

>>164993159
>you are the cave drone here, chav, not me
Oh is that why i cleared batrider advance with an f score yesterday? and raiden dx? my next effort will be samesamesame....so cave much wow. Least im not a sad cunt that ended up playing styles he pretended to hate cus he flocks to popular games for groovy points.
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>>164993047
more like Smash TV game, just replace ship with dude and you got it.
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>>164993742
>so cave much wow
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>>164993742
>>garish ugly sprites
>muh graphics

>hard to see shit amongst such mess
git gud
>none of the ships have nice movement speed
again, git gud

>that why i cleared batrider advance with an f score yesterday?
doesnt change that you are a cave drone
>playing styles he pretended to hate
i never hated cave, just find them overrated
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>>164993742
>>garish ugly sprites
yeah, like caveshits, but CC has a new good animated sprites, caveshits just copypast everything from previous games, including stages design
>hard to see shit amongst such mess
just lmao, get a glasses
>none of the ships have nice movement speed
>4 ships with different speed
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>>164994541
>just lmao, get a glasses
Glasses will not make your broken english any better.

>>164994286
>>hard to see shit amongst such mess
>git gud
>>none of the ships have nice movement speed
>again, git gud

You don't even have a single letter score in any raizing game lmfao you don't even have a shitty western record either. TFW you play a game for 2000 hrs to achieve what the rest can in 200.
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So, CCWI is perfect game.
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>>164993047
Assuming that it is you, monolithdev
Why not just say "Hey I made a shmup check it out" and post a screenshot or something like this
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>>164994897
Looks like Crimzon Clone.
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>>164994862
>So, CCWI is perfect game.
ye, if german sperg with few scores and no mum to bring bratwurst n beer.
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>>164995182
A little, yeah. It actually has a pretty fuckin neato artstyle, it looks like an old arcade game
I have to say though, I have a super hard time figuring out what's going on sometimes. The artstyle is super busy.
I still don't entirely understand how lives work.
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>>164994821
>You don't even have a single letter score in any raizing game lmfao
what does this have to do with what i said?
>you don't even have a shitty western record either
again why does this matter?
>you play a game for 2000 hrs to achieve what the rest can in 200
i have 400 hours in ccwi, not 2000
plus in contrary to others i also didnt play the doujin version (which has almost the exact same routing)
im also still new to bullethell, yet i reached rank 6 on the boards, which is not bad id say
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>>164994897
Nope, just a random anon. But I forgot that shmupg was also on /vg/ so the post came off a bit weird. I apologize for posting a new shmup that people might be interested in. In the shmup thread of all places!
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>>164995589
That's why I prefaced it with "if you are"

>>164994286
>>hard to see shit amongst such mess
>git gud
Gonna defend anon here, the artstyle really shouldn't work against the player in any instance.
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>>164995429
because you're telling others to git gud whilst being a fucking no trick pony yourself with WAY less diversity in games played than i have. No one wants to hear your excuses now that you've been called out as the mangina you are.
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>western record
>asian record is doubled western record
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>>164995730
>the artstyle really shouldn't work against the player
it doesnt though
you can see everything clearly in ccwi
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>>164995801
>>western record
>>asian record is doubled western record

Now krauts with us we need a german record to! half a western record.

>>164995850
you know everyones eyesight is different right? I have more issues in cc than gayrager.
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>>164995850
>you can see everything clearly in ccwi
Are you sure about that?
I dunno about you but this artstyle is uber busy to me
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>>164995969
eu record?
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So everything i said about AGDQ being for degenerate cunt social justice fuck ups has been proven it seems, guy thrown out and banned today for merely wearing a MAGA hat. I hope AGDQ dies desu the disgusting leftist cunts.
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>>164995783
>you're telling others to git gud
yes, and thats completely justified
just because you have better raizing scores doesnt make you a better ccwi player

you have no idea about the flow of the game, thats why you think the speeds are wrong or whatever
but if you play the game right, then the speeds are just fine
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>>164996132
it will never die, as long as makes money
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>>164996306
>it will never die
i promise you it will. speedrunning is already on it's way out.
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>>164996002
thats also pic for ants
i am not sure about unlimited, but in original its just fine

>>164995969
>you know everyones eyesight is different right
you know having good eyesights is part of skills for shmups, right?
its like complaining about fast scrolling backgrounds
just stop whining and git gud
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>>164996002
You don't need see shit, you must feel shit.
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>>164996587
>you know having good eyesights is part of skills for shmups, right?
You are so fucking dumb it's unfathomable, eyesight has variables and is not simply a case of good = see all games easy, we have colour spectrums and neurological responses to ranges of colours etc, we are all very different. I already explained this but take garegga for example I have NO problems with it but manhy others do and the same goes for other games and no it's not a case necessarily of good eyesight vs bad. You really need to drop the arrogant know it all shit when you keep making yourself so apparently dumb as fuck.
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>>164997070
>You really need to drop the arrogant know it all
you are saying you cant see shit in ccwi and blame it on the game
im merely saying that you can see good in ccwi, but you need to have good eyesight for it
just like in garegga, eyesight is a part of skill in the game
if its the same kind of eyesight, i dont care, but stop blaming it on the game just because you cant see shit
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>>164997529
Wow it's almost impressive how you completely fail to comprehend a point and go on to state the complete opposite which is wrong for reasons i've explained. Go do some reading on the human eye you thick headed idiot.
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>>164997849
I didnt even say you need GOOD eyesight
i said you need good eyesight FOR THIS GAME
i dont know what kind of eyesight you need there, but you need SOME kind of eyesight
a kind which may not have, but this is no reason to say that the game is too busy, when many others do not have a problem with it
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>>164997849
>waaah why does this game have so fast scrolling backgrounds??? thats UNFAIR WAAAHHH!!!!!

go back to mammy, you retard
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who said anything about scrolling backgrounds? literally wat.

>>164998101
>but this is no reason to say that the game is too busy, when many others do not have a problem with it
same with garegga, it's about compatibility not good eyesight as like i said eyesight is not that simple.
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>>164998678
>who said anything about scrolling backgrounds?
fast scrolling backgrounds can also alter your vision
many people get irritated by this and they cant see clearly anymore

>it's about compatibility not good eyesight
well, then its not about good eyesight, but about having many kinds of good eyesights
whatever, doctor huxtable, go and suck a dick elsewhere
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>>164998965
>fast scrolling backgrounds can also alter your vision
>many people get irritated by this and they cant see clearly anymore
Ok and? that doesn't apply to me though and was mentioned no where but by yourself, fucking weirdo.

>>164998965
>go and suck a dick elsewhere
K, still more human contact than you'll ever get lmao.
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>>164994862
Not as perfect as Fultra.
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>>164999401
>that doesn't apply to me though
of course it does, otherwise you wouldnt whine about not being able to see anything
the stuff you are complaining here is the same like complaining about fast backgrounds, which is just fucking stupid


> still more human contact than you'll
congrats for for being a mama's boy dependent on others the whole time
the societ is completely sick anyway, i really dont care much about social contact or whatever, you fucktard
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>>164999857
Both points prove you simply aren't understanding what is said.

>>164999721
>Not as perfect as Fultra.
>perfect
>sh-3 slowdown retardation.
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>>165000040
>Both points prove you simply aren't understanding what is said.
no you are just proving that you dont have any arguments and cant do anything but throwing lame insults around
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>>164999721
I have wrong eyesight for purple dots.
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>>164999401
not cee but my friend legit has problems when the picture is too colourful and complains about pain and "not seeing clearly". his favourite games are garegga and eosd because there he says he sees everything clearly, apart from remilia in eosd which is "red on red, impossible to see". he hates the visuals of CCWI too, of course

this might be just something that happens to people genetically, not really a fault of Cee's that he could have prevented or could correct
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>>165000195
>this might be just something that happens to people genetically
thats mostly the case with talent...
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>tfw can't get wr, because eyesight
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>>165000306
>talent
why you reminded this
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>>165000306
Time to end colour-based eyesight discrimination? Leave the chav-lads to their palette-drab shmups!
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How do I make CRS not stretch in fullscreen and look like shit
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>>165000142
No you're really bad at comprehending arguments in english.

>>165000195
you're replying to me mate and yes it's common knowledge to everyone who isn't a bull skulled kraut cuntbag that people have variable eyesight and preference. Yagawa learnt this to and included bullet colour editing in batrider, nearly every player i've watched uses a diff colour combo. Kraut still won't get it though he only thinks in simplistic terms.
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>>165000740
stop using a retard monitor and get a 4;3
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>>165001551
>No you're really bad at comprehending arguments in english.
still better than you it seems because i at least address your "arguments" and dont just reply with lame insults
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>>165001551
ahh sorry, over time your insulting styles started to converge and I wasn't around to get used to it, I got momentarily confused which is which.
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>>164992024
LOL that gore post was like from two months ago and wasn't even related to the current reasons for her quitting.
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>>165001551
>people have variable eyesight and preference
yes, and some people have more preferences than others, ie better eyesight

now fuck off with your retardation
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>>164982845

>no horis pls

>mfw some shmupper lets a game's orientation determine whether they play it
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>>164992024
>>164989446
explain
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>>165001897
B-BUT I REACHED F LETTER IN BUTTRIDER, YOU CUNT!!!! I HAVE A WR!!!!
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>>165002431
>people aren't allowed to have opinions
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>>165002602

>people aren't allowed to have opinions about people's opinions
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>>165001812
This is why i'm laughing, i address all your idiot points persistently and you can't even acknowledge or identify them. Honestly i think you're just a great troll sometimes.

>>165002049
>he thinks preference is in direct correlation with eye sight capacity

You know i really wish was my eyesight was bad just so CC seems less ugly.
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time for some Border Down

https://www.twitch tv/elnidfse
probably
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>>165002478
no one plays butrider, put your obscure shit score in a trash
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>>165002898
>Border Down
Shit game
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The fastest the general has been in forever. I am not sure how I feel about WHY that is at the moment but whatever I'll take it.
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>>165003092
But I like it, and that's all that matters to me
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>>165003092
>>Border Down
>Shit game
pleb cunt

>>165003232
>But I like it, and that's all that matters to me
dis nigga gets it.

>>165003131
it's because cee wills it, he uses bantz, it is super effective.

>>165002965
>no one plays butrider
aye to busy all pretending to like garegga instead. I'm not big on either though desu thus why i'm happy to have nutwiper finished.
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>>165004181
you have shit taste
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>>165003092
>border down
>shit
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>>165004716
>you have shit taste
so does your mum after i cock sneeze throat yogurt, takes more than a polo to stop smelling of salty potatoes.
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>>165002431
Not the same anon, but for some reason I suck at horizontal shmups and Im decent with vertical ones, this is the main reason why I still haven't played Deathsmiles it also looks really mediocre.
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>>165005371

How can you be shit at horizontal shmups but not at vertical shmups?

I'm not even sure how that works, as it's the exact same skillset being used.
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>>164966479
Why does anyone take this list seriously, it's fucking stupid.
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>>164966479

high loop gradius is harder than anything there (the +13 on gradius would put it at 43, which is not high enough relative to others), though i'm glad to see that at least they put second loop twinbee and parodius high up since that shit is fucking retarded hard
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>>165005098
>mum jokes
your cock never touched any woman
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>>164966479

>raiden being that low
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>>164966479

>no gradius V

pitiful
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Anyone need me to drop a Cambria Sword mega?
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>>165006121
>>mum jokes
Wow you noticed? sharp tool you are lad.

>>165006121
>your cock never touched any woman
bollocks mate you're the type to slip yourself a finger then cover the smell with a pack of wotsits.
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Are we being raided?
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>>165005698
>Why does anyone take this list seriously, it's fucking stupid.
they don't because the latter.
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>>165006396
It'd be near the bottom, since G5 is the easiest Gradius game ever.
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>>165007715
I don't think so, but it's becoming more apparent that Cee came from Reddit/9gag/Facebook/some other shithole.
>uses desu in every other sentence
>lol i fuked u're mum XD tier shit
>doge trash
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>>165006396
it's for arcade shmups
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>>164965281
Good, can't wait to see Pazz beat this gaem
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>>165009073
>some other shithole.
Like Shmup Farms.
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>>165006194
>Raiden Fighters 2 [Seibu, 1997] ALL [with TLB] with Fairy; +2 with Slave; +18 to +22 with others
I was confident to do it, I knew it was a ruse
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>>164992614
>it's inspired by cave clearly as TAC is a cave player mostly.
That's stupid logic
CCWI inspired by a lot of games, same with another game which inspired by other games. Cave known with slowdown mechanic, CCWI doesn't have it.
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i'm new to shmups, what is it about mushi that makes it harder than say, dodonpachi daifukkatsu? is it the speed of the bullets + hurtbox size? there's something about it that just makes it more difficult, even though there's a lot less going on.
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>>165014147
>what is it about mushi that makes it harder than say, dodonpachi daifukkatsu
DaiFukkatsu has an autobomb mechanic.

>even though there's a lot less going on
Play maniac or ultra
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>>165014147
If you mean M.Futanari then it's obviously because R-chan's increasingly fat(ter) tits make her an easier target to hit.
If you mean M.Sama then I don't think its really that hard of a game unless you are playing on some kind of remix mode/label or higher difficulty in general
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>>164996587
>i am not sure about unlimited, but in original its just fine
In my case, when you can't see your own ship it's in invincible mode so it doesn't matter because you're safe.
In a bullets hell game, of course you will face situation where your ship hardly could be seen.
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So I'm trying to do an Ura loop Clear in Daikufatsu.

Are the requirements for the true final boss the same in 1.5 as the arcade? Collect all bees, don't die more than once, no more than two bombs used? Once in the second loop do I still need to collect bees/activate the miniboss route?

I'm making sure because I swear I didn't meet the requirements before and I still got into the second loop so I'm not sure if the requirements are still the same from the ones I'm reading.
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>>165014423
>If you mean M.Futanari then it's obviously because R-chan's increasingly fat(ter) tits make her an easier target to hit.
Now I know why is Reco less played then the shota
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what shmups are worth getting off steam

do Cave's shmups run well on wine? I'm on linux
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>>165016908
I tried DFK in Wine and it wouldn't launch for me, though I didn't bother looking into what was causing it to crash. Not sure about the others.
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>>165017102
thanks
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>>165016908
Tale of ALLTYNEX desu
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>>165016908
>>165017102
DFK worked in wine (v1.9.5) for me, as did CAVE's other ports.
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>>165017184
>windows only
>>165017645
I'm running the most recent version of Wine. I'll try one of them then

excuse my ignorance
-which of the three PC Cave shooters is the best?
-Which one is 'DFK'?
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>>165017876
DFK is Dodonpachi Resurrection. None of the three games match up to the CAVE games available in MAME (there's a pack in the OP), but Deathsmiles is objectively the best of the three.
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>>165008672
It's harder than every gradius except 3, and I'd say its high loops are harder than 3's.
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holy shit this official art
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>>165018859
>None of the three games match up to the CAVE games available in MAME
Says you, Deathsmiles and Mushi are equally as good as earlier Cave games, they just have worse artstyle and otaku pandering.

DFK sucks for real though
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>>165019148
>target acquired [[ ( . Y . ) ]]
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>>165019474
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>>165019654
>>165019148
>>164944043
TITS OUT
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>>165019654
holy crackers
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>>165020352
http://www.game-ost.com/albums/15875/secret_lover_mushihimesama_remix_tracks,_the/
full booklet scan on the right
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>>165017645
>>165018859
well I tried
deathsmiles crashed under Wine 2.0-rc3
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>>165021438
Do other games in Steam work? Have you disabled the Steam overlay?
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>>165022385
disabled overlay
still crashed
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Why is the scoring in mushi maniac so shiiit? I really love the game but the scoring turns me off...
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I will admit, I am turned off by the claymation looking antics are the Deathsmiles graphics. I feel like if they had just put some work into proper sprites with proper frame count instead of turning 3D models into what we have now that it could have been pretty goddamn amazing. Also Patchi best 2hu.
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>>165026019
If it makes you feel any better, Deathsmiles II just outright uses the 3D models instead of turning them into sprites. Koakuma best 2hu Patchouli's great tho
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Yuuka is best 2hu
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how long did it take you to get your first ever 1cc? which game was it?
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>>164874229
astro port games are like that. in armed seven and vulkaiser you just have to kill enemies as soon as they appear, in satazius you just need to collect all stars on a level and don't die.
in donpachi it's rare to have a 50+ hit chain, so fucking up isn't too terrible. i'd also say casual scoring in ccwi is pretty intuitive, just pointblack enemies after getting a multiplier and do the same thing in doublebreak, try to kill bosses in double break with your lock on, it's pretty fun.
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>>165026576
>If it makes you feel any better, Deathsmiles II just outright uses the 3D models instead of turning them into sprites.
It doesn't honestly. Sadness.

> Koakuma best 2hu Patchouli's great tho
They are pretty much a package deal so I could accept this with a slight nudging to put Patchi back on top
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>>165026938
Starting with no experience whatsoever, it took me around 2 months to get a Normal 1CC in Imperishable Night, and then another 2 to get the Lunatic 1CC.
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>>165026938
It took me a month to learn Mountain of Faith on normal.
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>>165026938
vulkaiser on normal, under 10 hours. why are you asking this? if you are looking for some easy 1cc's, doujins and console games certainly take the cake, though even they can be extremely hard above normal.
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>>165012916
I think it's the perfect Cave game. Bullet cancels all over the place, a final stage worth an obscene amount of your total, and a scoring system that seems neat at the surface but is actually complete bollocks.
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>>165026938
Took me about a month and a half or so to clear EoSD Normal, which was my first shmup, and about a month after that to clear Extra. Most Touhous after that took 1 to 3 weeks or so, with the exception of MoF which I think only took a couple of days. Time taken to clear Extras vary, but I don't think any of them were over a month.

Bonus: Deathsmiles took me exactly one week for Casper, another week or so for Windia and Follett, and then got the 1cc on my first credit with Rosa. This all came over a year after my Touhou 1ccs.

>>165028023
>It doesn't honestly. Sadness.
Ah well.

>They are pretty much a package deal so I could accept this with a slight nudging to put Patchi back on top
That works I guess. It's been a few years since I bummed around TouhouWiki but I recall reading that Koakuma has unused sprites for a special form in the Extra stage. I wonder what could've come of that if it had happened. Maybe she wouldn't be the most forgotten Windows Touhou character in official works...
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Is there anything actually wrong with doujin shmups? Besides being on the short side of polished they don't come across as cancerous to me honestly. Not in the way it is sometimes talked about here. They may not all be deep month-year long commitments but I think they bring some value not only as entertainment but in helping keep the genre afloat.
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>>165032990
>Is there anything actually wrong with doujin shmups?
yes they're shit compared to the arcade games
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>>165016908
Ikaruga just werks in WINE.
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>>165032990
People in here may have various issues with different doujin shmups, but I believe the main issue that people have with Touhou in particular is that such a significant portion of the Touhou fanbase doesn't even play or like the shmups themselves. The "secondaries", as they're called, only indulge in the music and the fanart and the porn and all that. I have to admit that it can be kinda irksome to approach a Touhou discussion and mention the actual shmups, only to be met with "oh, I've never played them". Although, I don't play the Touhou games much anymore myself, so I dunno if I should talk. Still got the experience from before at least.

Alternatively, on 4chan if you don't favor something then you fuckin' hate it.
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>>165033328
You must be a shitty player who only play mainstream STGs like Cave or Raizing
The arcade games listed on >>164966479 are mostly shit
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>>165030231
>why are you asking this?
not for something to play, just curious how others did when they started out.
this is my first shmup and i'm struggling a bit. furthest i've made it to is stage 5, but most of the time i lose lives early on running into stray bullets or being a hero and hoarding bombs.
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>>165035075
>running into stray bullets
don't hold down the movement, but rather tap it. and don't die before using all your bombs. i haven't played it, so can't give more advice.
>not for something to play
good, becouse if you won't stick to the game you won't clear it.
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>>165012916
It's a question of fact, when a designer plays mostly cave for years don't be surprised when the influence shows up in his game.

>>165009073
None of the above and this place is real diversity, better get used to it snowflake.
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>>165019031
V is not harder than iv and by loop 3 iv is obscenely much more difficult thus why the WR is only 14 loops by SWY compared to 256 for dumbed down shitty V by everyone and his nan.
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>>165036160
>>165036160
Who cares if it's harder you try hard faggot? It's still obviously the best Gradius.
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any advice for a new to shmups player to nail jamestown last level on divine?
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>>165036268
Personally i thought it was shit, over long in need of editing, killed everything that made gradius and turned it into dumbed down respawn danmaku hitbox garbage, unskippable cut scenes and mostly weak music. I don't care which is harder but that point was being discussed so learn to read. V is ass.
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>>165036405
>Personally i thought it was shit
That's because you are a hipster who hates everything popular. Gradius V is technically incredible. It's a beast of a game. It improved Gradius in every way.
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>>165036536
Only a German would be so obnoxiously arrogant that he'd preach his subjective opinions as objective facts. Reality check asshole you choose games based solely om popularity to earn groove points amongst your non existent friends. Now i repeat V was poor with terrible pacing that was made to dumb down the formulae for plebs and use ps2 polygons to woo in the muh grafix retards. Have you even cleared any gradius honestly?
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>>165036757
>choose games based solely om popularity
Yes sure, that's also why I play shmups... A niche genre amongst niche genres. Fucking retard.

>for plebs and use ps2 polygons to woo in the muh grafix retards
You are the definition of a hipster, you faggot. You hate on games simply for not having oldschool sprite graphics... It's just ridiculous.
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>>165037048
>You hate on games simply for not having oldschool sprite graphics... It's just ridiculous.
Oh really? is that why i rate under defeat, border down and psyvariar 2 so highly? At least i'm not a mentally deranged hypocrite that hates rng cave style one day and loves it the next all because it's a "popular" game, sellout cunt looking for peers to wank him off. In fact your dick has barely seen more action than a gradius V cut scene, now thats going some.
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>>165037048
>Yes sure, that's also why I play shmups... A niche genre amongst niche genres. Fucking retard.
Popularity exists within the parameters of a genre relatively speaking... now who's the fucking retard? Madolf plz
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>>165037248
>is that why i rate under defeat, border down and psyvariar 2 so highly?
These games are still very unpopular compared to Treasure, so they get a free pass in your hipster logic.

>hates rng cave style
I never said I hated Cave, I just prefer other games.

In contrary to you, I don't give a shit about the popularity of a game, I merely play what has high quality and fits my taste.
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>>165037483
>criticizes me for being a hipster, goes on to prove he only cares about game popularity

>>165037483
>and fits my taste.
Yeah your taste which we ALL saw do a complete U-turn in a matter of days because you're a fickle fake that wants to be involved with the biggest audience for groovy points. Complete untermensch worst german player to ever appear.
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>>165037352
It doesn't matter if a game is popular for a shmup, it's still niche as fuck compared to other genres., which is why it is retarded to say any shmup player only plays games if they are popular.

I do not give a shit about the popularity of games. It's you fucking hipsters here who are obsessed with what IGN or whoever is thinking.
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>>165037483
>I never said I hated Cave
You lying gape, you spewed endless hate for cave on /vr/ and here for ages.

>>165037642
You fucking derp the parameters are set by those involved, if only 10 ppl played shmups but 8 played CC then by definition CC is the most popular RELATIVELY speaking.

>>165037642
>who are obsessed with what IGN or whoever is thinking.
Is that why you copy their opinions of ikaruga?
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>>165037721
>you spewed endless hate for cave
I didnt spew hate for Cave. I spewed hate for you fucking hipsters, which mostly tend to be cavedrones.

> the parameters are set by those involved
That's not what you were saying. You were saying I'd play games for their popularity. There is no popular shmup though. Every shmup is niche. If I'd play games for their popularity, I wouldn't play shmups. What is so hard to understand about this?

>Is that why you copy their opinions of ikaruga?
I'm not copying any opinions. I'm just not a fucking hipster.
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>>165037721
>CC is the most popular
touhou is by far the most popular shmup. battle garage is populal on farm, ccwi is only popular on steam and among jap scorers(who don't care about westerners anyway).
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>>165036349
Play the stage through again and again. When you die, keep mind of how you did and take the steps to make sure you don't die next run. Have a reliable route through the stage memorized whether it's for survival or scoring. I'm sure there's videos which can give you a good idea when studied. Also PRESS VAUNT.
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>>165038001
Also this. CCWI is not popular at all, conmpared to Cave, Battle Garegga, or whatever.
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>>165036349
Practice it, just do runs over and over.
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>>165034640
yet 90% of them are better than the best doujin game :B
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>>165038001
>touhou is by far the most popular shmup
lmao

touhou is the most popular series because of the fandom, the game themselves are not popular at all
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>>165038095
>CCWI is not popular at all, conmpared to Cave, Battle Garegga, or whatever.
Is that why it outsold all of them by a large margin?

>>165037954
>That's not what you were saying.
Yes it was but your typical cunty german side has to move the goal posts because you're wrong and even tell me what i was saying lmao, fuck off merkel.

>>165038001
You know i just created a hypothetical example right and not a statement of fact? You fucks really are not very bright at all.
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>>165038304
>Is that why it outsold all of them by a large margin?
It only outsold them on Steam, which says absolutely nothing, especially since Cave games are ten times as expensive and everyone already owns them on 360 anyway.
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>>165038372
I didn't own a 360 because mine RROD when I popped in dead rising and M$ didn't do free repairs. So I took it back to the store and bought a ps3 instead.

I sort of regret it
Until I remember I needed a Japanese 360 to play all the shmups that didn't come over here
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>>165038304
>Yes it was but
No, it wasn't.

>>165036757
>you choose games based solely om popularity
This is what you were saying. If I'd play games based on popularity, I would not play shmups.

Again, in contrary to you, popularity doesn't interest me in the slightest. I don't care if a game is popular or niche. I just play what I like.
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>>165038250
yeah right
https://www.youtube.com/user/Jaimers91/videos?sort=p&view=0&flow=list
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>>165038250
Pretty much this. Next to no one I've ever met that """""""""plays"""""" 2hu actually does, at best they've done a few runs once or twice. Their favorite game is usually beat the dolphin. They sure as hell don't actually know anything abut the genre. The few exceptions are people that played it and moved on to Cave/Taito/Psikyo/Raizing/etc. The only thing that's popular about it is unrelated to the games.
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>>165038485
>1cc collector collects 1cc
rly makes u think
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>>165038613
it's sorted by popularity, he plays tons of other shmups as well, but nobody gives a shit about anything but 2hu and memetail. now prove that touhou is unpopular.
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>>165038536
This is funny bait, but let's try and be a little more serious now and stop projecting.
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>>165038536
you can impress people by playing 2hu becouse they heard about it.
>at best they've done a few runs once or twice.
at least they fucking heard about, nobody heard about ccwi(relatively speaking). we are not talking about few people outside of japan that actually care about shmups, but if you want to impress those dads you are better off playing garage or ikarugah than ccwi.
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>>165038805
>it's sorted by popularity
>aka views
people look up the games their porn is coming from wooooooooow
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>>165038485
The recent threads here are a better indicator of what people actually play and talk about than Jaimer's youtube channel: http://shmups.system11.org/viewforum.php?f=1
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>>165039554
noone that's serious about shmups discusses them on the farm
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>>165039554
Nobody actually goes to the farm though. Youtube is a much better indicator for popularity.
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>>165039394
Popularity was what the argument was about you fucktard. He proved that 2hu is most popular, so what is even your problem.
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>>165040043
shmupg is 2cool to play 2hu anyways, lunatic is too hard guys
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should i take gauge filler or stars in ccwi? stars seem kinda pointless, after the first extend you need to many of them to get another, but gauge is good for more score and survival.
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>>165039838
Well both are different service with one giving indicators of views that the other does not.
Gotta be honest lads i'm really getting a taste for raiden dx, cleared training and middle course now onto expert.
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>>165041210
But i've cleared a couple on lunatic and never mention it or played any again because those games are just garbage to me, don't care how hard you think they are.
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>cee face
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>>165041831
To get stars, you need gauge. Double break is where you get the most stars, and to double break you need gauge.
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>>165038613
I think you are shit, because you never get things like jaimers
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>>165042026
>>165041831
So yes, I'd take gauge. I personally only take stars, if I killed a boss without break mode, and don't need gauge for the start of the next level. This and before the TLB. There you often can still get an extend if you take stars.
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>>165042008
correction.
>>165042070
Jaimers is a good player but the jealous passive aggressive nerdlings have to shit on everyone who isn't a top jap. He does look like a kalergi plan mongrel though.
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>>165042168
>jealous passive aggressive nerdlings have to shit on everyone
>says the guy who constantly shits on jaimers too
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>>165042307
In regards to skill? i recognize jaimers and never shit on that aspect of him. Everything else is fair game though, all is fair in love and bantz.
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>>165042307
and i'm not passive aggressive, i call a spade a spade.
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>>165042368
You were constantly shitting on him and calling him overrated 1cc collector, when in reality he has quite a number of really good scores.
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/shmupg/ is alive!
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>>165042453
Yay.
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>>165042453
cee is just chimping out again
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>>165042436
>You were constantly shitting on him and calling him overrated 1cc collector
Got any evidence of that padawan?
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>>165042503
Nah kraut was chimping, i was just answering his call because deep down he does this because he is fatherless and lonely.
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btw don't know if zil browses here but you did a great job on stg weekly last night, vast improvement.
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>>165005697
I have no idea, maybe Im just retarded.
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>>165042745
Dont listen to him it's not the same skillset at all, horis require some differences you have to adapt to.
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>>165005697
regarding me horizontal reading/dodging and vertical reading and dodging seem to be completely unrelated sets of skills and getting good at one doesn't confer any advantage towards the other, so i just play verts mainly because i dont have the patience for horis
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>>165042841
Some very small differences.
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if you play keyboard horis are also much worse for that than verts because you only use one finger for up and down
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>>165043260
You haven't ascended to the ultimate grip
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>>165042841
It is a little different. In my experience Side scrollers tend to have more obstacles and walls for you to run into. While vertical shooters tend to have no obstacles, but more bullets and enemies.
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>>165043260
Good keyboard players actually often use keys like space or whatever for up or down.
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>>165043883
citation needed
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>>164982327
ccwi. though you'll probably need to learn the basics of scoring system to survive, but it's fun. though if you chickened out on lunatic i'm not sure if you are determined enough to clear it.
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>>165043951
Its just common sense. If you can customize your controlls, it just makes sense to not handicap yourself. You lay out your controls so that you have all directions right at your fingertips the whole time.
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A well built dome-switch keyboard is actually a superior choice for shmups, surpassed only by custom controllers. Using a dpad is inefficient and sticks fuck up your joints. Unless you are a silly arcade wannabe, there is no reason to use a stick.
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>>165045981
>sticks fuck up your joints
Where does this meme come from? You must be a cripple to get injured from using sticks.
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>>165046092
>Where does this meme come from?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpal_tunnel_syndrome
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>>165046204
You mostly move the stick with finger though and not with your wrist. It's also not hard to move a stick. You'd have more chances to get this from fapping.
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>>165046092
he's >>165046204

right, sticks gaves me rsi they're fucking atrocious for it and the reason the wine glass grip became a thing. If keyboards are so leet why are so few top scores ever made with them? tfw 8 quid pad and still beat most of the west using 100 quid sticks and boards and i'm mediocre.
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>>165046297
Again he's right, it's the constant movementy for hours on end, no one faps for as long as they play. Go search farm lots of ppl got cts from sticks.
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tfw i invented the 1cc collector meme
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>>165048159
post your score
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>>165026938
Samurai Aces in about 12 hours of playtime, not my first shmup tho
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>>165026938
giga wing ~20 hours
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>>165026938
3 weeks to 1cc EoSD on normal with input lag, idk the playtime but it would be a safe bet to say that I played at least an hour a day.
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>>164982817
I think you're supposed to grease it. They sell silicon grease on focus attack and I bought some but I can't find any info on how/where to apply it. You can kind of see where it's at if there's still some grease in there.
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>Psikyo
>all the same shit
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>>165051852
>input lag
lmao like it matters on normal
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>>165052283
Only beginners think this desu. Go try playing strikers 45 or gunbirds loop the same way as any other psikyo and see what happens.
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>>165052361
I remember being annoyed by it though, just thinking like, "I don't know why but the movement in this game is shit"
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>CAVE
>all the same shit
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>>165052792
this
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>>165052792
>I don't know why but the movement in this game is shit
cuz ur bad lmao. even if memeput lag affected your perfomance beating 2hu on normal can be done easily even with an analog, handicaps are just not worth mentioning.
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>>165052965
it was a babby's first 1cc, who gives a shit?
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>>165053210
>who gives a shit?
yep, that's why mentioning memeput lag is funny. i think i got my first 1cc on an analog or a shitty laptop keyboard, but i didn't mention it.
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>>165052965
no, eosd has bad controls
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>>165053398
sometimes you gotta meme, my man.
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>>165053415
no, any 2hu has good controls actually
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>>165053474
> 2hu
>good
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Touhou games are bad meme has gotten old at this point.
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>>165053596
>if I post memes he wont notice I don't know what I'm talking about
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anyway, 2hu control is shit
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>>165053398
Why are you such an autistic cunt? stop banging on about inane bullshit. "OMFG XD Y U MENTION LaG ITZ EAZY PEAZY 1212121!!!" because iot's a fucking forum and he did now get over it you spastic.
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2hu is fun. I am not going to sit here and pretend they are the pinnacle of anything but I genuinely enjoy the gameplay and the music and overall vibe it gives. Unless you are a hardcore dedicated fan it is fine for 2hu to be a "satisfying side fuck" before you go home to your loved one for long haul (basically whatever game you have made your scoring focus).
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touhou is caveshit
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>>165054696
wish i had autism desu senpai
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>>165055883
Touhou is also completely fine as a main scoring-game (in my personal opinion of course the best choice!)
people that shit on touhou scoring are just afraid of bullets
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>>165055883
>and overall vibe it gives
The i want to fuck children to snazzy piano vibe?
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>>165057648
>people that shit on touhou scoring are just afraid of boredom
fixed.
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>>165057826
IN and FW both have extremely fun scoring.
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>>165062083
>pentagram, magic book and a wand
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if not 2hus, shooting gay would be died
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Meh.
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If I aim to get my first 1cc but I want it to be in EoSD will using the hitbox visibility patch void the 1cc?
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>>165062862
are u implying that 2hu inspired anything but 2hu clones and undertail?
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>tfw you love Darius and its music so much you want to make music as mindblowing and avant-garde yet enjoyable as ZUNTATA, but you probably will never achieve that greatness and even if you did it would only be a product of imitation

B-but that won't stop me! I got a super-new keyboard and I will make music that might even be half as good as ZUNTATA's!
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>>165063637
I think using the hitbox patch is fine, especially when you don't know exactly where the hitbox is it will help you get used to it so you can still decide to stop using it later
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>>165063637
Nah knowing where the hitbox is is cheating. For a true 1CC the monitor needs to be turned off
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>>165063637
no one cares
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>>165063668
2hu gave popularity for stg in general
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>>165066658
Much like any form of entertainment, the most popular thing is the worst thing. It's suitable for only tasteless plebs.
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>>165063130
what ship
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>>165067852
Enjoy obscure games, what's your problem
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>>165062862
Aside from copious amounts of porn, 2hu really didn't do very much to keep the genre alive. It isn't accessible at all, and Zun has gone out of his way to make it accessible to the general populace. I can barely type it because it seems so ridiculous, but if anyone has done a good job in keeping shmups alive, in recent history its probably Degica.
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>>165036536
>>165036268
Fuck off, Treasuredrone.
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>>165067864
Golden Bat
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>>165071283
boring
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>>165070404
They do nothing for pc gamers, just give me fucking setup for keyboard.
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Playing some CCWI

twitch tv/infirex
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What games force you to score in order to survive? As in 1cc attempts cannot be done without a scoring run
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god i fucking hate the second stage of crimzon clover because theres always something that will go wrong no matter how good you are. just now those round turret things the midboss has refuse to die from lock shot even when they are practically red from all the damage and i accidentally kill them with my shot which led to me not getting enough energy for double break. one time when i overcame this bullshit i die in the boss for literally no reason because after the final pattern was about to end i was clearly safe but then i exploded with no reason

but that is if you somehow manage to pass that fortress thing with all those bullshit medium ships that have more health than final boss

on top of all the fucking stage 3 boss shoots those rng aimded shots with such a speed that psikyo and raiden developers would be scared
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>>165074434
Battle Garegga?
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>>165072898
>using a keyboard while shmupping on pc
LOL!
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>>165075110
what do you suggest?
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>>165074595
>stage 3 boss
i have problem with lasers
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>>165074434
YGW games, partly 2hu's
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>>165075210
he's gonna say stick
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>>165076726
>muh arcade experience
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>>165074434
CCWI Unlimited
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>>165075210
gamepad or stick obvs
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atheistgod1999 has finally been banned from the farm.
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>>165077829
what for?
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>>165077829
who's this "literal who"?
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>>165074595
chaining stage 2 mid-boss requires perfect route memorization.
you need to practice this a lot
otherwise the stage is really not that hard, except you go for high level play
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>>165078834
ur mum xD
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>>>/vr/3728067

It habbened.
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>>165080047
very funny, can I upvote this?
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>>165078775
terminal dumbassery
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>>165080447
but y
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>>165083181
Just noticed how similar this game actually is to Eschatos. It even got the shield and switch between focus and spread shot.
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>>165073449
Stream's over. Thanks for watching.
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>>165083481
Originally, Eschatos' subtitle was supposed to be something like "Final Judgement".
Take it as you like.
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here to save the thread!
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Muchi Muchi Pork steam when
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>>165088567
>playing STDs on Steam
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>>165088786
>STD
>sexually transmitted diseases
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Strid has been waging a 1 man war in the DDPR forums since release. He doesn't even play shmups. Is it autism?
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>>165090838
who?
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>>165095294
Cee blown completely and utterly the fuck out.
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>>165095294
based casper
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>>165095517
Cee is still more epik than Kraut-kun.
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>>165096251
She's the best.
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>>165093508
>>165095294
>>165099725
I wonder if desusmilefags are the same people who meme about poohou here.
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>>165100241
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>>165100241
Nope, I just stick to Deathsmiles and bump the thread when it needs it. If I'm feeling adventurous I might post Kud or Mega Man or something with a bump but mostly it's just Deathsmiles.
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>cuz ur bad
>lmao
>your mom lol
>frogposting
>/pol/posting
>bumps
>""""""""" """"""
>poohou
>locals dad shit
/shmupg/ in 2017.
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>>165074434
Any game by YGW. 2hu games usually have some mechanic that's both tied to gaining lives and score.
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>>165103081
2015 was really our best year, even though that was mostly bickering between /stg/ and /shmupg/
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>>165074434
Radiant Silvergun and Mars Matrix, you have to score well to power up your shot.
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>>165035075
well i Cave'd in and tried novice, 1cc'd it first try.
which shot type is usually used on normal? i'm using S, tried the others but movement feels too slow, since i hardly have spawn locations memorized.
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>>165080447
>Shmup Collection containing over 9000 MAME romsets.
I fell for it, fuck
I just need traps stg for my collection, but I'm too lazy
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>>165100241
Nope, 2hu is complete poopy doo doo. Desusniffers is ok.
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>>165105267
Oh yeah. I also forgot x bumps around the same time.
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>>165105428
S normal, M 1.5 normal
W maniac
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>>165105428
Use S for normal and novice original, W for everything else. M is best in 1.5. Arrange lets you use all of them.
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you guys are just mad that its popular site-wide, toho is great
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>>165107045
Mad about what? I love Touhou. Back when I was a more active Touhou player I posted about them a lot here. I even have figures and plushies. They're just not the end-all-be-all of shmups that a lot of fags think they are.
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>>165107045
Touhou isn't even that popular. Outside 4chan and internet culture nobody gives a shit about Touhou. Did you see ever regular gaming sites write something Touhou? Maybe in connection with Undertale otehrwise it's fucking nothing
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I knew I had this saved somewhere.
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>>165053474
Yeah so good that you need a fucking patch to remove the input delay so noticable you could take a piss in the time it takes for your character to react to the buttons you pressed fuck off retard
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>>165110021
That's an oversight due to the games being for older operating systems, the patch is specifically to help make newer OSs play nice with the vsync.
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>>165107924
Any time a game has anything resembling shmup elements it's compared to either Touhou or Ikaruga in reviews
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>>165111008
Hard to believe there was a time when every game that wasn't directly ripping on Gradius or R-type was compared to Gradius and R-Type
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wait caladrius blaze is from the raiden people? is its styte comparable to raiden?
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>>165116542
Caladrius is comparable to Raiden in the sense that they're both shit.
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>>165117026
t.poohoo shill
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>>165111008
And as anyone with half a brain knows, popular doesn't equate to good. Take Touhou and Ikaruga for example.
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>i recently bought caladrius blaze from that psn sale a week or so ago.
>haven't played shmup in a good while
>see myself developing the habit of hugging the corner a little too much and forgetting to use my resources
i hate what i've become but caladrius actually really fun. Now, i gotta play raiden
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Is it true Cream is gone from STG weekly?
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>>165111008
Alright. Name one popular game with shmup elements except UT.
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>>165119513
Yep, he ragequit shmups.
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>>165120307
>he
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>>165120710
Mtf trannies will never be real women, sorry lad
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>>165063637
play without hitbox patch, you'll just get used to it, i already don't care if a game has a visible hitbox or not, if anything it made me more careful, hugging bullets is never good.
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>>165074595
if you'd score after beating the game your butt wouldn't be so crimzon.
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mushi stage 4 is so annoying
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>>165046363
Just don't play for five hours straight senpai. I don't have time to play even for two hours. Feels ok actually.
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>>165046204
meanwhile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC_1ZWLOPJc
top japanese FG players are in their mid 30s and up, they're doing fine
on top of that, shmup movement isn't even comparable to fighting game movement/execution
you're not going to get CTS from movement in a shmup unless you hold the stick arms length away for 24 hours straight and don't plant your wrist
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>>165122734
mostly the boss, overall stage three annoys me more
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>>165119758
Unreal Tournament had shmup elements?
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>>165122734
They sure grow'em big in the ol' bug village, huh.
Must be something in the water.
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Not a 1-all but I did reach another goal tonight.
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das it, i'm fucking done with non-mame shmups, i've had enough of of crawling through the entire long-ass stage over and over again just to be killed in the later half of it, becouse figuring out what to do(aka making a route) takes forever without states and therefore completely burns me out on a game.
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>>165126660
i think he's talking about blundertale
but i hope he isnt
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>>165119758
>Name one popular game with shmup elements except UT.
Touhou
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>>165129021
I learned tonight that Garegga on PS4 has save states during Draco's stream. I thought that was pretty cool to be honest.
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>>165129706
That's the joke.
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>>165129021
you would have never made it in the arcades
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>>165129764
Regardless of memelords claim, those are shmups, not games with shmup elements.
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>>165130029
Nice joke.
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>>165130029
what about the fighting games
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>>165129973
i know right, i never finished a single game on my famiclone becouse you had to start all over again or from the same stage. yet arcade-like games are the most appealing genre for me becouse full run takes less than an hour and is very action packed.
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>>165126660
the part with the dragonflies in stage 4 is really annoying
just before the boss there's like 3 of them and not really a good spot to take out the tails

>>165127832
her hurtbox is 90% tits
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CCWI is pure game.
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>>165130745
>the part with the dragonflies in stage 4 is really annoying
Maybe my route was weird, but I found the dragonflies to be really easy.
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>>165131867
But is it pure ludo?
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>>165119758
Rabi Ribi
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>>165121083
>Mtf trannies will never be real women, sorry lad
Is this true? It'd explain why cream is good at shmups, most women just don't have the capacity for dedication/obsession.
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>>165119758
Enter the Gungeon
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>>165119758
Furi
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>>165119758
binding of ballsack
>>165129021
i played it again, i want to get off yotsubane's wild ride.
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>>165133810
>>165134409
I should specify. Popular don't mean popular here among a few nerds.
>>165134278
Steam reviews and IGN review mentions bullets but no mention of Touhou.
>>165135545
Again they mention bullets but no Touhou.
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>>165135675
are you retarded?
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>>165129021
MAME exists for pussy niggas like you. Real man never touch anything but arcade hardware.
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>>165035075
I'm right there with ya buddy. We'll get through it.
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>>165135675
you asked to name popular games with shmup elements which is what people did. not sure if i follow your discussion but if you say danmaku or bullet hell anyone who knows those words(ie anyone interested in gaming beyond AAA) will instantly think of touhou.
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>>165135675
Furi and Rabi-Ribi are both pretty damn popular.
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>>165136106
post your clears, real man.
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>>165136258
>but if you say danmaku or bullet hell anyone who knows those words(ie anyone interested in gaming beyond AAA) will instantly think of touhou.
Not me.
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>>165136258
Read the chain reply.
>>165136272
Popular where? You think that people that plays AAA knows these games?
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>>165136418
It was released on PS4 and Xbone and was "free" for a while on PlayStation Plus. Yes, I think people know about it.
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>>165136335
Dodonpachi DaiOuJou 2ALL with 2.5 billion points. Keep setting up save states and maybe you can reach my level one day, kid.
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>>165136572
I have 4.5 billion, you sucks
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How i can play Touhou games on WASD?
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>>165055883
For some reason Im still an active 2hu player, its not like the games are that good but there's something really fun and charming in most of the games.
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>>165136418
undertail has as much reviews as latest cod on steam, indies are pretty fucking popular these days.
>>165136572
and how long have you been playing it?
>Keep setting up save states and maybe you can reach my level one day, kid.
i'd reach your level a lot faster thanks to the states.
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>>165137004
I think the best way is autohotkey
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>>165137025
do you use 4:3 screen for 2hu's?
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>>165137434
Nah, but sometimes I play them on tate mode.
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shared secret strats
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>>165137434
Nah, by standard monitor displays the doujinshi manga just fine.
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ded thread
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make new
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>>165137978
>not tating your display while downloading porn
lol u can't even masterbate properly
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>>165137967
if you do that on hibachi he shoots way less bullets and they're way slower too

2 ships at once probably overload the game
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>>165046092
Maybe if you use a stick wrong.
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why are cave/degica charging 29.99usd for daifukkatsu
Deathsmiles owners: 14,380
Mushihimesama owners: 28,760
Dodonpachi Resurrection owners: 6,831
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>tfw didn't get namedropped for an entire thread
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>>165139224
still 8usd for me
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shooting gay is dying
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>>165139684
what are you on about
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>>165140340
>>165140340
>>165140340
>>165140340
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>>165105432
What is it anyway? Same pack as our general?
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>>165134032
I don't think anybody knows that for sure but I think her voice is pretty good evidence she is cis female. Trans women seem to trend towards higher pitched head register voices instead of vocal fry. This is all white male scum logic, of course.

it is true in esports at least that most if not all good female players are trans though
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>>165124857
This. Stage 3 seems like it needs a fairly rigid route. 4 is a mess of bullets but I feel like you can just dodge must of it.The midbosses last attack and the boss are a bit rough though.

Actually the worm part does require a route but it's not that long of a section.
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>>165141210
>I don't think anybody knows that for sure
Trap will he's her bf.


>>165141210
>she is cis female. Trans women seem to trend towards higher pitched head register voices instead of vocal fry. This is all white male scum logic, of course.
errr leftist degeneracy and it's reality denying labels.
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