/tf2g/ Team Fortress 2 General

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>that one guy who paints all his shit gold to go with his australium

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its another " ive killed the dead ringer spy 10 times in 20 seconds but he just keeps picking up metal from the endless stabbing " episode

where the fuck are all these unkillable triggerbot spies coming from, i refuse to believe theres 3 pro good non hacking spies on every fucking server

>>164698950
you forgot the spy-cicle along with dead ringer

>>164699121
spycicle blocks fire, i was a soldier/engi

How do I play Heavy alone successfully?

>>164700420
simple
you type join_class soldier in console

>>164700420
dont feel the need to dm in wide open areas, keep chokes and side passages suppressed or drop onto them for surprise. Always be close range.

>>164700420
flank

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what are some good mem binds to spam at bad pub players

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Trading Hath/Credit of e-hentai/sad panda gallery for Tour of Duty Tickets if anyone interested.

>>164703315
What are those and what do they do

>>164703131
random crits are fair and balanced

[lenny face]

hahahahhaha reflect this! (when you kill a pyro as soldier who tried to airblast your rocket)

etc etc

>>164703497
Allow you to download gallery/ purchase perks to enhance browsing (more search results, bigger pages etc) if you use e-hentai.

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r8/h8

>>164703131
Use bazaar's trashtalk generator a few dozen times, dump them in the autocfg with a bind that picks at random and go have fun
>>164703805
Seems kinda worthless

>>164703885
Better paint than gold, now make that razorback professional

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>>164703805
>Allow you to download gallery
oh okay

>>164703131
is it weird for a young kid (30-41 age) to have a crush on his mother

>>164697560
Gross!

>>164703904
>autocfg with a bind that picks at random
got a link to it?
i tried looking for one a long time ago and all i got was people saying its impossible

>>164704325
>>164703904
do u even masturbate

>>164704325
If you don't want credit, you can get hath to buy perks. For example, MPV perk will negate the need to use sad panda and cookies.

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>>164697560
>tfw the enemy pubstomp combo kills pablo.hernandez2011, the little pyro that just wanted to get on the roof
>tfw u main soldier

>>164703131
I use "Thank you for donating to the Hale's Own Professional Killstreak Scattergun fund. Your life was greatly appreciated"

and if I'm dominating them, "Your continued donations are extremely helpful. Thank you for your service to this great cause"

Will TF2 be speedran at AGDQ

>>164709090
No because it has no end

Are killstreak fabricators worth using?

who wants my useless fucking crates? i have no inventory space and i just want to dump this shit
listing everything on community market is too hard

add me for free junk:

steamcommunity.com/id/thenoided

>filling chat with my epic bind spam is so hilarious
>*holds up spork*

>>164709492
you forgot to use SAM on your last 2 achievements, just saying

>>164710761
>used SAM to get all the replay achievements so i could get the camera hat
>it's ugly as sin and doesn't gel with anything
>forever feel guilt as this item should not be in my backpack

>>164710761
used sam before they existed

>>164709492
anon already took me up on the offer. enjoy

>>164711021
can you craft it with another hat?

>>164711630
Yes but it'll be untradeable

>>164711691
least it might be something good

>>164700420
Heavy's only usefulness now is punishing those who get too close to his team's lines. Kill the scouts and soldiers that are trying to flank and pick off your team, but don't peak out because you'll be a large threat and die very quickly.

>Checking server browser
>Unprotected rc_walkway server
>join and annoy the guy to death because he doesn't know about sv_cheats
Always fun, shame i never remember the commands to fuck with the clients or make shit crash

Woodland maps are my favorite. Which are yours?

>>164713675
if youre talking about theme, dark rainy wooded maps are my favorite
like sawmill, nightfall, and thunder mountain
its just so comfy

if just maps, then its highpass and lakeside

>>164713926
Shame that sawmill is a mess of a map, it's fun to play.

>>164713485
did you spawn a hundred tanks

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I want this to be a good game, but it's frustrating to deal with the community.

We hate the current gameplay that we have, but decry any changes to it because we don't want change.

Like pushing last, neither team wants to be aggressive. there is no reason to. Just wait for the other team to make a silly mistake and then fight 6v5. People bitch and moan about this issue, but nobody actually wants to fucking change it

>>164713926
I like most of industrial maps like proccess, junction, mountain lab or snakewater (last cap and second) and interesting concept sites like Hong Kong.
Bu to play on depending on what I feel like playing cuz usually close range maps are my favourites but whenever I wanna play sniper or such I prefer payload maps or koth maps.

>>164719320
>if you don't reply your dies mom
eh?

>>164719320
sounds like pub problems to me

>>164713675
I really like the snowy theme. I get a strong feeling of peaceful solitude walking to point on Coldfront. It's like walking in snow in real life.

>>164719472
>pub problems

it becomes more an issue at higher levels of play.
Pushing last is not a problem in silver, but at LAN you have 7 minute mexican standoff, because no one wants to uber first

>>164719320
we all die eventually

>>164713675
any map thats dark, i turn my monitor way down but bright maps are stll an eyesore for me

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>>164719695
TF2 has weathered the overwatch storm.It still retains a decent chunk of players and is the 3rd most played game on steam.
I would like this game to do well. I would like to see it grow and become better. I get real sick of the community's shit where we all preach doom and gloom.

Fuck off. Valve is starting to actually listen, even if just a little. The Smissmas update fixed casual matchmaking, now all they need to do is return the other classes to quake gameplay and optimize the damn game

then we can worry about niceties

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>>164700420
Use flank routes as fatscout, camp around big health kits with Minigun. Jump-rev from corners then return back to safety and check surrroundings. Open fire at choke points and tunnels with Minigun. Use Shotgun (may be FBusi too) or Dalokoh's and FoS or Eviction to position at open areas or keep low profile safely. Pair dalokoh'S with Brass or Natascha to be safe at the clutches. Keep a Shotgun with KGB or Holiday to make the best of the buff/debuff timers.
Sandvich is only good if you can stay at cover, or keep yourself at behind the lines. If you have no Medic to share Sandvich then I see little to no point about keeping it around since you'll be dead before you know it when you slip up. Best use still can be sharing it to banner Soldiers to keep the defense line intact.

>>164698950
Valve should nerf the fucking DR about bleeding and soaked in liquids. That thing is impossible to track down unless you have a dedicated Scout-Pyro roaming the area and checking ammo packs.

>>164719320
I think solution is pretty simple: "you communicate with your damn team and organize the attack". A Spy, bonk Scout or banner Soldier next to your pocket duo, can be used to regulate the chaos you're in. Keep hit and runs until the time Medic loads up über so you can send signal to them.
Also back to /r9k/ that *reply to this post* shit was never funny.

>>164720635
>3rd most played game on steam
haha good joke everyone knows tf2 is LE DEAD XD
OVERWATCH BUTTS LESBIANS HIGH NOON
ECKS DEE

>>164720635
What the fuck happened in orange? Was the Halloween update that shitty that more players left then than when the "TF2 killer" came out? Still TF2 lost a really big quantity of player but glad that its recovering, specially after the Smissmas update.

Rewind LAN is going to either be the start of TF2 getting big again, or the complete end of the TF2 competitive scene, and in turn, TF2 sharply losing players. Everyone needs to watch this on twitch and tell their friends about it. Maybe donate to the prizepool if you can. I think 5 or 6 tf2g's are going because we really love this game and dont want it to die. Also, reply to this post with your steam id if you'll be attending rewind LAN. Maybe there will be a tf2g meetup or something.

>>164721514
that was when delfy/mueklse/mr slin (i can't tell them apart) made a youtube video about that short circuit exploit that froze people's game when you aimed it at them

cancerous tf2 youtubers literally hurt the game more than 'tf2 killers' could ever hope to

>>164720635
i was just talking about your image

>>164721728
Speaking of cancerous youtubers? What are some actually good youtubers out there?

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>>164720635
I'm not going to pretend like the pyro update will make me finally leave the game if it's bad. Anyone who says "I'm finally done with TF2" is lying 99% of the time.
What the pyro update could do is reinvigorate me and many other players, along with this new lan. If the pyro update sucks, then it's business as usual.

HOWEVER: The fact that the pyro update got delayed past the smissmas update is giving me hope. Instead of releasing a broken piece of shit, they delayed development.
At this point, if it means a working, good update, I couldn't give less of a shit that it took another month or two to come out.

My biggest hope is that the flamethrower is made the main weapon of pyro, and that airblast is gutted. Fuck that mechanic and fuck the retard who thought it would be fun to put in the game.

>>164722521
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0tiurOZKzas9EXZ0leJOAw

What if valve made an official rocket jump tutorial?

>spawn with rocket jumper
>fully textured and developed practice map, with teleporters as modes of transportation
>the administrator yells at you
>beating the basic map gives you an achievement and a rocket jumper
>beating intermediate gives you a market gardener
>beating advanced gives you a winged helmet cosmetic

thoughts?

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>>164723375
forgot pic

>>164723518
I actually like this idea, give an option for demo too.

Giving new players an easy way to get a weapon that does no damage is probably a bad idea. I'd love to see a better tutorial mode for must-have skills, though

I don't care if casual pubs are ruined by trolldiers. It provides an incentive for people to learn the game, and arguably one of the most interesting and unique gameplay mechanics TF2 has to offer

>not responding directly to each other

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>>164725037
>>164725215
>>164725614
Fine. I could not care less about the quality of casual matches. They were never salvageable to begin with.
The only thing that mattered is decent autobalance, and choosing a map you wanted to play. Otherwise, the quality of players is uncontrollable.
you get friendly hoovies. 500 ping peruvian engineers who can't play. Scouts that just keep running into sentries. Unusual, australium pocket soldiers with their medic fuccbois.
who cares if there are more new players with rocket jumpers? At least they're interested in the game beneath the pile of shit tf2 is covered in.

>>164723375
Why not take it a step further and add tutorials for every weapon?

If you check out an item from the Mann Co. Store that's not in your inventory, you get a contract for it. When you finish the contract you get an uncraftable, untradable version of that weapon as a reward.
This way, it's easier for players to get the 'necessary weapons' (gunboats, ubersaw, crossbow) while learning how to use the new weapons as well.

TF2 needs tutorials and more hud/graphics settings optimization. Rocket jumping is essential to playing soldier. It's impossible to be a good soldier if you are not proficient in rocket jumping. It is also impossible if you don't use cl_interp 1. As you may have noticed, you must pursue external resources to become decent at TF2. Custom HUDs so you can actually see damage numbers and such. They need to make everything accessible to new players without searching on external forums. It will make the learning curve of this game a lot more reasonable, and will begin to bridge the gap between clueless pubbers, and low level competitive. (removing cvars and adding placement matches and proper ranking/deranking would make matchmaking viable as well.) This is all the TF2 team has to do in order to make TF2 arguably relevant compared to newer games. It would take any other game dev team an afternoon to get this done. An afternoon.

>>164726670
Ya I would fucking love that

>>164726801
>an afternoon

not in valvetime

>>164726670
the uncraftable untradeable items should just be stock items.

>>164727497
Or you could just give the state of some items to stock

Like the shovel performing like the escape plan, and the escape plane just being a reskin

>>164726801
fuck off thole, you're kinda proving that the game isnt even close to viable for a competitive scene by showing that it's borderline unplayable without heavy modifications

Can I play 6v6 with you guys?
I'm a bit of a newb but i like a challenge

>>164728526
>imblying that tf2g's play comp
Anybody any good do sent post here any more.

>>164727738
that wasn't me. but the game does need heavy modifications to be fun competitively. competitive 12v12 isn't fun. reserve shooter isn't fun. default interp isn't fun.

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>>164705517
not even once

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>stuck at work
>lookin at magazines
>see it, no it can't be
Muselk is Babe Ruth's babby daddy.

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>mfw realising MM will never be as good as in other Valve titles
>mfw TF2 is the only Valve title where they block net and graphic settings for MM

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>>164732203
Stupid phone, let's try this.

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>steamroll as demo in our 6s steel scrims
>go negative in pugchamp lobbies, feel like a worthless faggot
FUCK
at least i got picked for once

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I miss this part of my life

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I've been trying to come up with creative uses for sprays. I've already got a tic-tac-toe spray that I've used to play games with other players. What other ideas do you have for a spray that adds functionality to the game beyond being something neat to look at?

>>164735997
i wish i found out about this place sooner

>>164736117
how would you even play that

>>164736147
Stickies, Arrows, weapons that leave behind decals, that sort of thing.

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>>164736236
neat, speaking of neat shit ive got a shitty hat that needs to be named

>>164736451
strange COCK warming wear

>>164736451
my epic hat of hats

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>>164735417
i dont know about america but in EU pugchamp is prem/high players 90% of the time
just the fact that you get picked should be an accomplishment tbqh

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKc3ykoVmZw

>>164735417
god damnit i know this feel too well

yo where the heck did everybody go????

>>164739458
away
its over man
this game is near its end

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>csgo have multiple hackers in every match
>tf2 makes me carry every game to win and i can't just have fun
>irl everything is bad

>>164736948
yeah, people in my lobby talking about IM
i can get in pugs at this time because no one else is on

>>164737072
:-/

>>164739548
BUT WHY? I was just getting into the swing of things.

Dustbowl 2nd doesn't get enough credit.
Its by far the best part of Dustbowl and I wish it was its own map

>>164736451
why was this hat even put in? it sucks so much ass

>>164739785
yeah you mean cp_sentrieseverywherebowl? sure love spending 10 minutes against engineers who whack buildings

*shoots random crit rocket/sticky into populated choke*
heh nothing pepperoni phamily

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>>164735997

>>164739947
>implying Dustbowl2 has any sentry spots not easily killed by a single demo or soldier

>>164736451
I love gay russian winter porn

>>164740176
drawings never did finish that current tf2g drawing did he
even that guy who filled in and said he would do it instead never finished it
current tf2g is cursed

>>164720870
Dead Ringer shouldn't prevent afterburn. If a Spy wants to be fireproof, he should be forced to use Spycicle.

Dead Ringer is now Spy's most used Watch which is a pretty good indicator it could do with a small nerf, and I think making Spy's counter actually counter Spy would be a good place to start.

>>164736451

Le epic pepe hat xD

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Dead thread
Post Pyros

>>164741548
>lyrics
kys yourself

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>>164722578
>My biggest hope is that the flamethrower is made the main weapon of pyro
Yes, agree. His secondary shouldn't be his main method of attack, and a non-stock weapon shouldn't be used more than stock, and the alt-fire of the Flamethrower shouldn't be more relevant than the main.

Flamethrower's primary fire should take skill, reward skill, be the main focus of Pyro, and see use at all levels of play.
> and that airblast is gutted. Fuck that mechanic and fuck the retard who thought it would be fun to put in the game.
You were going so well up until this point.

Airblast introduces one of the only Soldier soft-counters in the game, punishes mindless spam, makes Pyro have any sort of relevance in competitive play (literally only reason it ever gets picked EVER), is currently the only skill-based component of Pyro, and is interesting to watch.

The hitbox is too large and the extremely brief stun (while I think people stress way too much over it) is bad, but other than that, airblast was literally the best thing to ever happen to Pyro.

>>164741596
>not liking Smash Mouth
You first

>>164741954
literally a meme song
neck yourself asap

>not liking memes
LIT-TURALLY turn yourself in bb

my poop is like water today

>>164742014
Smash Mouth is a band, not a song

somebody roll a three so i can go to sleep, i gotaa stop doing these roll things at 1 in the morning.

>>164742351
3

>>164736451
Smash Mouth

>>164742443
you fuck do it on the roll image jesus christ for fucks sake reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Any servers like the partyvan or weeabootique anymore? I haven't played in years, but those were my favorites.

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>>164742797
>>164742443
o shit lol nvm staying awake for 30+ hours on end makes me autistic.
not staying up for this one, suprise me.

>>164727659
nah soldier's melee loadouts should be balanced like demoman's
>stock is the simple option for people who don't give a shit about melee, and just want to focus on their primary/secondary
>all other options have fun, interesting, powerful abilities but come with big downsides to compensate
Escape Plan should be given a bigger downside than just "minicrits taken while active". It clearly doesn't balance it and means nobody uses stuff like katana
>>164742939
"nerf disciplinary action"

>>164742939
atheism is for fags

>>164742939
kent toch this

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>>164722521
Musselkek was gud until he decided to quit. Uncle Dane is cool in my book. Rydercycle is nervous but he's a good guy. Mr.Paladin still make chill videos. Red Robot can be funny at times. Rest are shit tier for me or in some place I named "gray zone" like Delfy or NISLT.

>>164721728
>video about that short circuit exploit that froze people's game
It was Delfy. Shortly after that exploit is fixed, like tomorrow.

>>164740727
Deadringer is there to mimic the feign death mechanic of TFC, I think it should block afterburn along the 3 second speedboost and show no flickering but:
>at the speedboost-no flicker duration disguise smoke should give in if Spy were to disguise right away after feign triggered
I think that was a bug about it, but I indeed wish for it to become a real feature, if fire can trigger a feign death and force Spy to disguise then he has to take it slower.
>when under the cloak effects if shouldn't be possible to remove liquids or bleeding
At the entire cloak duration Spy should suffer an entire Jarate, Southern, Shiv or Milk debuff, if not; they would cease away somewhat slower.
DR has no flicker and after 3 seconds it doesn't matter. If Spy did something stupid he should be gotten rid of with teamplay anyway.
I think I'll send another post to TF Team... May be Scout can be a better answer to the DR.
I sent a post about Spy gameplay at the high skill tournaments was about Amby shots, offered that Spy should have some sort of nerf to his revolvers for balancing Amby and DR so this madness would end somewhere. Tomorrow UGC banned Razorback

>>164722578
As another anon said already, airblast is the only thing that make the Pyro any related in game. Airblast kept as a mechanic because it helped Pyro help Engineer better than becoming a "flank&ambush lol" gameplay. If anything I'd take a RS nerf over a general Pyro nerf.

>>164742939
Smash mouth is shit

>>164722521
Danes and paladin are best. b4nny is too boring and generic, men playing 6x6 everyday for last 10 years, it's too boring and always the same.

>>164722521
Uncle Dane (The Engie Main)

>>164744284
50k, Totally insane!

>>164744039
>Deadringer is there to mimic the feign death mechanic of TFC
yeah but in TFC, you couldn't move while feigning death. You would literally just sit down on the ground and pretend to be dead, and anyone could shoot and kill you in that state. Also, Spy couldn't turn invisible back then, and feigning death didn't mitigate 70% of damage like Dead Ringer does.

So I don't think being true to TFC is as important as making Spy not cancer to play against, and allowing his counter to properly counter him.

>I sent a post about Spy gameplay at the high skill tournaments was about Amby shots, offered that Spy should have some sort of nerf to his revolvers for balancing Amby and DR so this madness would end somewhere

I do also think that Ambassador could do with a nerf, yeah. But I don't want them to go overboard, just nerf the firing speed a little bit or something. It is ridiculous when gunspy gets that far.

>>164744393
And hes pwning the noobs
In tf2
Even me and you
And its all on YouTube
When hes streaming on twitch
The other teams his bitch
Danes found his niche
And that makes him rich

>check Danes stream
>talking about Raja and the dumb shit he pulled
>"He's a comedian"
sure yeah the poo in loo accent doesn't get old I'll tell you that

>>164744619
>implying he can change his own accent

>>164744661
>implying he doesnt live in us for entire life and have accent for real

>>164744619
Go back to /pol/

>>164744776
What?
How is he living in us?
He isn't god

>>164744661
whoops
I meant to say his "RAJA" persona

>>164744859
I would day its more of a parasite type deal.

>>164744923
I wouldn't say he plays it up that much. He just rolls words a lot more

>>164744817
not until I see a wall etc etc

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>>164703131
>>164703580
>>164703904
>>164708414
degenerates.

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>>164745027

>>164745115
damn
welp back I go

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>>164744817
Raja is crap, he tries to stir up shit and gets infuriated when he fails. Then he tries to troll in a rude manner by throwing flames or flamebaits, that's it. I tried to watch one of his "other" videos about Demoknight tips and gameplay couldn't even tell if he was being serious or not. I tell you he's largely jealous about NISLT and Delfy, even though he has the point to a degree he went overboard with this shit in the name of more views.
I like Dane but he must be delusional to think that Raja has any talent in wits and humor for real. I saw nothing but an ass troll when I watched his vids.

>>164744424
In my opinion Spy can have more than one counter. Pyro is only meant to guard the Engineers nest, and spy check in enclosed spaces. At the open field, Pyro can't do shit to him unless Spy is cornered with airblasts or a dedicated Scout tracks him.
>But I don't want them to go overboard
I suggested slower deploy and holster times for Amby and a few quirky nerfs for DBack and L'etrang as well.
They'll figure something out "soon™" I bet.

>>164745779
>being jelous of NISLT or Delfy
Both are fucking assholes. No one is jelous of them

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>>164745779
Weird, You responded to me but I didn't get the (you). I thought they fixed that
>In my opinion Spy can have more than one counter
Since one of Pyro's very few useful jobs he can do is countering Spies, it would be bad for game balance to make other classes stronger against Spy while making Pyro weaker against Spy.
>Pyro is only meant to guard the Engineers nest
What an absolutely terrible game design/game role. What does Pyro do when there's no Engineers in that case, cease to exist?
I'm fine with "Pybro" being a niche support role for Pyro attached to a couple unlocks, but having it focused around that is no way to build a class.
>or a dedicated Scout overtracks him
Scout is already one of the best classes in the game. It's a bit nonsensical to take away a role from Pyro (the game's least competitively utilized class) and give it to Scout (one of the most competitively dominant classes).
>I suggested slower deploy and holster times for Amby
That's not really gonna make people stop doing Gunspy as the main form of competitive Spy play, anon. Slower equip and holster doesn't mean much when the only weapon you're holding out is Ambassador and you're acting like a Sniper, since you don't need to put it away or get it out often. You might want to try a different nerf if you want things to actually change.
> and a few quirky nerfs for DBack and L'etrang as well.
Diamondback is already Spy's second least used Revolver (http://tf2stats.net/weapons/?sort=equipped), I don't see why you would make it even worse.
L'Etranger is one of the best balanced Spy primaries, and encourages a Knife-centric playstyle. Nerfing it would birth more Ambassador+DR using wannabe Sniper Spies into existence.

Your whole post: pic related. Really man, this all goes contrary to making TF2 a better game.

>>164746602
stream it fag

>>164746602
oh and inb4 the inevitable variation on the "delete pyro" joke

>>164746623
http://putlockers.ch/watch-kung-pow-enter-the-fist-online-free-putlocker.html
knock urself out
I have Australia-tier internet, I couldn't stream my own suicide in 144p without it taking a year

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RARE picture of invite demoman pelt "our boi" pamphlet

Ded

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>>164746602
>What an absolutely terrible game design/game role.
But that's the current case. Pyros aren't really effective at chasing and pinning Spy. They need a "goalpost" like Sentry nest to catch them, that's why they're effective Engineer helpers. When no Engineer is around, they can still divebomb incoming pockets to force Medic deploy early or drop him, abuse flank routes to catch unaware Scouts or simply harass Snipers with flares. I'm not saying all Pyros should help Engineer, but that's what the class excels at the moment because of its inner design.
>take away a role from Pyro (the game's least competitively utilized class)
I assure you, I'm not taking away anything. Go ahead and try to pin a good Spy as playing Pyro. You can W+M1 whole map, a good DR or cicle Spy will not get caught easily to 120~hu range of that flamer by itself. Cloak has damage reduction and afterburn deals shit damage, they have ways of removing afterburn or other lingering debuffs.
Pyro needs to hold a goal post to catch a Spy. It's an intended design, yet Pyro class is flexible enough; they can roam around to flank hitters, ambush pockets or make Sentry nests nearly untouchable.
At the other hand a good Scout should be able to fall back and check ammo box spawns to track OR at least slow down Spy's approach if his presence is sensed already.
>L'Etranger is one of the best balanced Spy primaries, and encourages a Knife-centric playstyle.
It also encourages abusing cloak instead of going around and chasing people to backstab or ammo boxes. If you were to nail Amby down abit too hard, L'etrang will surely have a blast.
>That's not really gonna make people stop doing Gunspy as the main form of competitive Spy play, anon
That's actually the point, that's the least you can change without hurting the meta about Amby and "pseudo buff" DBack. If someone is trying to full gunspy in comp they will bit the bullet sooner than you think. Now Razorback is removed, I await slight nerfs to Spy 2bh.

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rate my mate's loudout

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also rate my gay scout set

>>164747313
shave head

>>164749920
>>164750040
think about it

>>164749920
>>164750040
I offer

>>164722578
its not the airblast that needs nerfing, its the instant weapon switch to flare that does. Thats straight up bullshit, an aimbot pyro is much more annoying than a sniper

airblast is part of pyros job now hes expected to counter soldiers and demos

>>164725037
they changed the item description to THIS GUN DOES NO DAMAGE and the kids still shoot things with it. Valve cant win "every single map removed, too confusing for new players" r.i.p SnowPlow

>>164750139
>>164750568
indonesian, russian or israeli?

>>164750040
literally "this colour was cheaper than pink and lime green so i had to use it" .jpeg

>>164751220
except it's chromatic, and they're like 6 keys each
>tfw colorblind
>tfw no game knowledge

rechecking my interp and shit. Cant find any page for info on what the fuck cl_pred_optimize does.
Every single cfg has it on 2, but why.

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What if the flamethrower had a very tall and wide cone, but a very short range. It would be wide enough to cover the average hallway and would be a roadblock at choke points, but it would limit the pyro from being played so aggressively.

>>164753197
youre joking right, itd mean a pyro would have to aim even less when surprising a combo or 6 on the cart, everyone would be taking full damage. Itd be pyros Phlog Uber buff all over again

>>164749920
thats weird but i like it
>>164750040
thats cool
>>164703885
thats shit like always

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>getting called hacker multiple time
>team tries to kick me, vote fails
>win just before second votekick actually works

>>164753660
were you hacking?

>>164754908
yeah he hacked squeenix didn't you hear

>>164754908
no, people just get mad when do well as sniper
blame koth_sawmill for being so open and having so many long sightlines

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snipin's a good job

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We posting cringe now?

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you know it

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>join Frontier pub
>someone on mic is calling the whole team useless faggots over and over and spamming lenny faces in the chat
>run a vote kick
>it fails
>"Oh, we got a wise guy here!"
>he runs a vote kick on me
>it passes almost instantly

>>164759495
that typeface certainly is cringeworthy yes

>>164759495
>dark 4chan theme
Yes I am cringing

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>>164759647
Yep

it's easy on the eyes ya fagioso

>>164759693
Pubs are stupid
Just mute him and try and enjoy the game while your 5 spies do nothing.

It's literally not.
http://ux.stackexchange.com/a/53268
It's just cringey dark-as-my-soul bullshit for edgy fedoralords

>>164760262
Except that's the opposite of BasedViva
BasedViva is happy and loving life shenanigans for blessed individuals. I'm just blind and don't like my shit too bright

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>>164760262
it's LIT-TURALLY not?

>cringey tripfag uses cringey theme
pottery

>>164760552
>>164760262
Viva showing his crybaby liberal side. like the millions of "Im literally on the floor crying" attention whore posts on Tumblel
Are you "literally" crying right now Viva?

I guess my "lit-turally" struck a nerve

>>164760985
Nah, I'm literally putting onions and potatoes out while yawning, waiting till the shift is over so I can go back home and try got that shiny Mimikyu

>>164761330
I liked it

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>>164759495

>>164759693
>voice_enable 1
you have no one to blame but yourself

>>164762256
I don't get it

>>164763428
what part do you not get

>>164763676
The "why was it posted in a reply towards me?" part

>>164763885
he tried to post something cringeworthy

>>164763885
"We posting cringe now?"

How do I convince my friends not to fall for the blizzard meme

im selling an unusual at a discount to buy a taunt, if anyone here wants it im gonna sell it to some guy for 23 in a minute
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28696232#latest

>>164766116
Why would we buy it for 24 when we know you'll go to 23?

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>>164765617
You don't, after a point they realize it's shit then come back to TF2.

>>164766487
im offering to give it for 23 to someone here if they want it before I sell it to some random chode with trade.tf in his name

>>164764032
>>164764053
Ohh, yeah. I forgot all about that. My bad, boys

Besides the excess of kek, not much cringe about it

what a dumbfuck

how do i mute the chat

>>164767602
very carefully

What's the point of casual matchmaking over quickplay valve servers again?

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>>164768420
dude levels lmao

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What's the best engie chest piece to go with pic related?

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>mfw trying comp mm
why would anyone play this over tf2center ?

Why would anyone play TF2 over anything anymore?

>they work for the engineer, the unusual hatted man
>uncle dane?

>>164771050
Too many syllables. You fucked up

>>164771050
>uncle dane?
>not DANE?
Anon come on now

>>164771225
The line also goes "The masketta man"

He could've easily said "The engineer man". Bad showing, to be honest

>>164771863
No joke this is the most accurate chart i've ever seen

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>>164771863

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>>164771863
this is good
is there more

id like to see a pyro one

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>>164770043
Good old WWW

why is it that if you dont pick baddiewater or upward in casual, the game coordinator takes 10 times longer to find a game

is this seriously all people play?

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>>164770043
Any that say 'cowboy'

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>>164771863
i use the pistol cause i refuse to use the wrangler, too many people use it at the wrong time and get assraped by scouts and pyros. And its not going to stop soon with the amount of """"""spies""""" that dont cloak or disguise at all and just play "sniper who can noscope for 110 and revive with dead ringer"TM

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>>164772809
you're in luck

>>164773271
upward is fucking based my famalamadingdongmotherfuckerhomiebrotherfromanothermothersfriendsauntie

>>164773858
all of these are bad

>>164773858
I'm surprised these are as correct as they are, nice

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>>164774335
well it IS the pyro
and here's floor shooter

>ambassador does 45 a shot, shoots 50% slower, crits on headshot, and has massive falloff

thoughts? Basically you can only headshot if you are close to the target, not at medium range, but it's slightly worse than the regular revolve at other ranges

stock revolver does 40 damage btw without rampup

>>164774482
rocket jump should be "i want to fuck around"
also no gunboats? wtf

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1000 hours in Mspaint. how to fix the pyro

>>164774482
>Equalizer
>Not the equalizer
lel

>>164774769
i agree

>>164774496
CRITS HAVE NO FALLOFF YOU DUNCE

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>still playing TF2 in 2017

>>164774769
Ruin spy's life more/10

>link cd in 2017
pause yourself my niggie

>>164771863
Only problem with this image is that pistol is damn good on offensive gunslinger engie

>>164774482
Where's the whip and gunboats

>>164774723
>>164775885
what should the gunboats and whip say tf2g

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>>164774769

>>164775680
how is this a bad thing

>>164775981
Whip: I have at least 200 hours practicing rollouts.

Gunboats: I refuse to play games with pyros in them.

>>164776061
I was not aware it did flat 60 regardless of how many flame hitboxes hit you

yes it needs to be like a short ranged plasma gun

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>>164771863
it's LFT, not LTF
and pomson should be something more like "I don't like your medic"
otherwise this is pretty good and so are the other two you made

>>164776061
exactly this, along with a bigger damage nerf on the degreaser and remove how movement makes your flames curve

>>164742939
somebody once told me the world was gonna roll me, I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed.

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>>164771863
Pistol is actually pretty useful on checking near dispensers or ammo packs.
Gunslinger makes your job even easier to control healthkit and ammo pack spawns too.
>Frontier Justice
More likely "I dare you to destroy my sentry".

>>164773858
SVF random crits like mad. Backscratcher is useful to camp around healthkits.
Powerjack is the most crutch meta of all.

>>164774482
You sure you didn't mean Escape Plan?
>Liberty Launcher
"I want to reload"
>Air Strike
"I want to reload more"
>Shotgun
"I want to pocket"

>>164742939
WELLTHEYDONTSTOPCOMINGANDTHEYDONTSTOPCOMING

>>164742939
i have sucked my flareon's dick multiple times

>>164778731
7zip

>>164775981
whip: I love heavies / Highlander
gunboats: i know what a rollout is / dont like rocket jumper

>>164774496
Why not make it give minicrits in headshot instead but fire slightly faster and do slightly more damage.

>>164776061
There should be a weapon similar to top one in link http://www.teamfortress.com/images/artwork/concept/flamethrowers.jpg
which does that.

>>164749920
I recommend after eight instead of pure black.

>>164779582
>>164776446
>>164776561
Everyone, both in the pubs and the pros, agree on a skinnier, longer ranged flamethrower with reduced airblast spam.

I really, really, really hope valve doesn't fuck this up. At least they're taking their time though, which is good

>>164781183
what do they need the time for when everybody already agrees on what needs to be changed
and the code for its is most likely already there and only has to be tweaked and tested

>>164766507
Can confirm, friends fell for Overwatch I did too and most of us have come back to TF2

>>164781437
>what do they need time for

to make sure it isn't buggy and broken. MyM was rushed out to compete with overwatch's release, and had lots of bugs. It took them an additional 6 months to just get casual matchmaking to work. I want the pyro update to be a complete rework of him and all his weapons. That takes time, it honestly does.

>>164781654
Overwatch is like dota, except for it has none of the good parts, and just the bad parts. It doesn't matter if I play junkrat and hit a lot of my pipes, there is a roadhog with 600 health with a 300 health, 5 second cool down heal. If he has line of sight to me at all, he hooks me and one shots me. It's so fucking stupid

tf2 has problems but at least people die when you fucking shoot them

The problem with airblast cooldown is that it must have the same rate of fire as the grenade launcher, otherwise even a perfect pyro will get fucked by a spamming demo or soldier

>>164782210
The idea is that a longer ranged flamethrower would fix this, because pyro would be farther away, and could dodge better. Nobody likes the airblast, not even pyro mains.

>>164782126
well if they are going to revert airblast to how it used to work
i guess fixing the bug where you got glitched under the ground would take some time for example

defiantly not until summer this year though which is probably when they will release it

>>164782210
only if he walks in a straight line in which case he should be fucked

>>164782435
fuck you I love airblast

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its pretty sad that the idea of the pyro has gone from a stupidly aggressive, borderline kamikaze ambusher to a passive, defensive support that punishes aggression itself. There are too many defense-oriented things in the game and it places a ton of pressure on ubercharge and sniper/spy to break stalemates created by this

>>164783324
>>164783575
The issue is that the airblast is like what >>164783670 said, purely defensive. You can spam it, holding ubers at bay, and lock players into place.
That shit isn't fun. It's fun to push people off cliffs. It's fun to do it once. It isn't fun to do it over and over and over. Make it cost a shit load of ammo

maybe let the pyro airblast jump with it. I wouldn't fucking mind if it costed 100 ammo and gave the same push amount as a rocket jump

>>164783575
>>164783324
how many hours in TF2 do you have?
what is the highest division you've ever played in?
it's pretty hard to not know if your opinion is relevant or not

200 hours

esea invite
plat hl
plat 6s
plat4s
etf2l premium

this game is so easy

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>>164784380
>200 hours
>hasnt gotten 1st in esea lan

LOL FUCING NOOB

>>>/trash/tf2g

>>164784110
Idea: Airblast now has to be charged
The more you charge it, the more it costs, with degreaser/backburner costing 150% and 200% of stock's.
Lower cooldown than right now if you spam it, but it deals next to no knockback and chews up your ammo like crazy. A fully charged airblast is comparable to a double donk in terms of knockback
Every airblast still reflects projectiles, because you shouldn't be punished for relying on your quick reflexes. Maybe don't make it low enough that you can fit two airblasts in the time it takes to fire two grenades, as to punish complete spammers, but enough that it's faster than it is now

>>164784110
>>164784204
I've got 2500 hours and have played steel hl (pyro) and plat 6s

I stopped playing a few years ago though; just getting back into tf2

after playing overwatch I realized that I love the movement in tf2, and airblast gives you a really neat type of control over enemy players

I'm not judging airblast from a meta perspective, just as a mechanic

>>164785954
>and airblast gives you a really neat type of control over enemy players

in the same sentence of:

>I realized that I love the movement in tf2

that's the problem. It takes control of movement away. See? Watch this

>I like tf2 movement
>airblast takes movement control away
>airblast takes control of movement, the thing that makes this game really fun, away

>>164785756
>Every airblast still reflects projectiles, because you shouldn't be punished for relying on your quick reflexes. Maybe don't make it low enough that you can fit two airblasts in the time it takes to fire two grenades, as to punish complete spammers, but enough that it's faster than it is now
this is the opposite of good. airblast should be slower than a soldier spamming rockets, much less a demoman

One well placed airblast can change a game, but he should only get a couple chances every fight, not one every projectile.

>>164785954
>likes movement
>and airblast

Airblast is one of the few functions in the game that completely fucks up your movement, making it very hard to airstrafe. What a weird thing to say.

>>164786345
>>164786553
I like the movement in tf2, not control of movement

airblasts and explosions and knockback are all things I love just as much as airstrafing and double-jumping

source physics are seriously great

>>164786767
>airblasts and explosions and knockback are all things I love just as much as airstrafing and double-jumping

Again, surfing off a rocket is a great source of movement in tf2, airblast is not. If you're in plat 6's and don't know that these are vastly different, than I don't believe you aren't in plat 6's (And that isn't even an impressive level of tf2)

>>164786767
airblast prevents you from airstrafing, one of the most important and genre defining gameplay features of any quake game

>>164787013
>>164787017
I see what you're saying; airblast isn't really movement so much as positional control.

still, that's something I enjoy as well. It adds variety.

I never said plat was impressive, but thanks for putting me down

>>164786414
>Walk into room as soldier
>Find pyro
>Shoot, he airblasts
>Bait his airblast
>Shoot and kill
Compared to
>Walk into room as pyro
>Soldier is there
>Eat one rocket because i didn't prepare an airblast
>Reflect his second
>He kills me before i can charge up another reflect

It'd be like walking into a room and finding an unrevved original tomislav, you can't do anything but get killed due to bullshit out of your control

>>164787331
it wasn't meant to put you down, it's still a pretty high level I suppose.

>>164787362
>Eat one rocket because i didn't prepare an airblast

Well there's your problem. You got flanked and you lost, as you should.

>>164787362
>Walk into room as pyro
>Soldier is there
>Airblast the first rocket with my super-human reflexes
>Teleport past his second rocket and grab his head, crushing my thumbs into his eye-sockets as he curses the day he ever tried to cross me

easy....

]play amby spy
]toggle cheats

easy....

>>164786414
Good post. Airblast is one of his most powerful tools, if not his greatest utility as a class. That being said, it's too available and a good pyro player will be able to use it well enough that a non-counter will have a tough time engaging him.

>>164786767
except that airblast is the one thing that doesn't fit. it resets your momentum to 0 and then moves you a bit in the direction the pyro was looking. it isn't source physics, it's just completely cancelling momentum, which is why it's so fucking annoying

>>164788183
that's because pyros don't have shit for range so they can be picked off easily from a distance without the ability to defend themselves

>>164787802
the point is that you weren't flanked, just walked into a room with a soldier ready for you

from this point, it's up to each player who wins (soldier baits airblast vs. pyro gets the second airblast), whereas with a higher cd the pyro is fucked and has no counterplay

>>164788591
>that's because pyros don't have shit for range so they can be picked off easily from a distance without the ability to defend themselves

>scouts have to get close
>heavies can't do anything at range
>can't be uncharged headshot by sniper

>>164788590
it used to do that you know, just push away instead of resetting movement completely
valve changed it to what it is now because it was basically negligible

>>164788591
>whereas with a higher cd the pyro is fucked and has no counterplay

again, the pyro should rely on footsies to dodge damage and aiming to do damage. Not this. Longer flamethrower that's skinny would be like the plasma gun from quake, it requires DM, would allow pyro to do damage from farther away, and fit in perfectly

>>164788715
You got it backwards, they recently changed it so you can move around, but only on consecutive airblasts.

>>164788591
>the point is that you weren't flanked, just walked into a room with a soldier ready for you

That is essentially a flank. He hid and you fell right into his trap. You still have a chance of killing, and pyro might be only class that does.

>>164788792
this would be neat; I'd love to see a flamethrower that rewarded good aim

>>164788881
you guys have convinced me; maybe a lower cd would be good

I think a key advantage to this is that it doesn't really affect offensive use of airblast, since you really only need to catch them once for a combo

i wish the pocket pistol had a good and defined purpose instead of being the clusterfuck of stats it is now
>health gain on hit
>but also slower fire rate and damage vulnerability
>so not only will you not heal enough, it isnt gonna matter anyways because youre going to die to one rocket
>oh and also no fall damage because we forgot to remove that stat

>>164788881
i meant in ye olde days
im not talking about the recent airblast change
before you knew how airblast is now, it used to just be push instead of cancel movement+push

ideally the airblast wouldn't even exist

maybe valve can just make an unlock with no airblast that does that

>>164789279
I've been playing since 2010 and I don't remember it, may be before my time, or I was just a fucking NOOB when it was a thing and didn't get it

>>164789279
The pocket pistol was good when it was a weaker, slower firing pistol that gave +25 hp to counteract the sandman's thing. But that was too strong in valve's eyes, I guess.

>>164789279
>>164789398
In the beta of 2007, pyro did 10% more damage and had no falloff. The noobs complained because a pyro would turn the corner and kill 7+ people, because a decade ago people weren't as autistically good at video games that they are now.
So the damage was reduced and pyro got falloff, but later he started to suck against better players. Valve added the airblast then.

>>164789642
Yeah. I remember when he didn't have airblast at all, but not when he had an airblast that just pushed.

>>164789632
please stop posting this it hurts my feelings something awful

>>164789279
it was always cancel movement+push. you just remember it differently back then because you had shitty movement

>>164789598
To be fair, there was literally nobody that actually used it as a weapon, they only equipped it for the free 15hp and ran around shooting people with their primary as usual

26dollar is a beta white male who cannot pull out of his internet relationship

>>164791332
So he wants to impregnate his partner?

>Airblast now fires a short-ranged projectile that explodes upon hitting a surface or after traveling 128Hu (instantaneous travel time)
>enemies closer to the center of the explosion are knocked back further
>enemies are knocked away from the center of the explosion, rather than having a set knock-back
>enemies retain full aerial control after being knocked back
proper skill indexing so good pyros have more control over where the enemy goes but spamming airblast is easier to counterplay

>airblast hitbox is kept the same for projectiles
>rather than pushing back projectiles, they are destroyed
>a new projectile with similar properties to the destroyed projectile(s) is created and fired straight from the Pyro's crosshair
no more wacky sideways airblasts

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wheres the update lmao who even plays the game before the update hits

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>>164778731
>>164742939
You gonna fucking deliver or what? I'm not getting cheated out of another roll again.

>>164792043
Are you fucking retarded?
>>164743651

>>164792015
dumb anime poster

>be bad at scout soldier and sniper
>join_class demoman
>stomp

what did valve mean by this

>>164793684
>bad at soldier
lol

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Halloween cosmetics you wish were all year

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>>164797050

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>>164797050
Garden Bristles

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post pyro

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>>164798476

>>164798476
>Pony shit

>>164703805
>nhentai
You're welcome, retard.

>>164798647
pony a cute

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>>164797050

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>>164798476

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what's up with soldier mains being autistic about anime

every soldier main is either a huge weeaboo pedophile who rants about his waifu all match or gets triggered at the sight of an anime avatar and flies into an autistic rage

ive never met a soldier who was neutral towards anime

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what i really like about tf2 is that no matter how many edgy cosmetics, weapon skins, and unusuals someone may own, they will still look retarded at some point

hey
how do i start career as a pro tf2 player, highlanders and that stuff?

lft

>>164800924
>>164801078
ID??????????????

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>>164711021

>achievement and hat comes out
>publish a shitty spy streak on youtube
>spam /b/ with the link for hours
>gain 2,500 views same day
>get a shitty looking hat
>tfw I put effort into it

When will skial die?

>>164800057
death cams are a lot funnier if it's some edgy loadout in a ridiculous pose.

>>164802365
Why would you want it to?

>>164802020
>spam /b/ with the link for hours
thats actually pretty genius

>>164802365
skial is never gonna die

when will i die

>>164804565
when your brain stops functioning

technically youre already pretty much dead

>>164801787
>>164697734

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>>164804565
not as long as I'm around

cn@vn

cn@na/ca

o

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http://tf2r.com/kqpx6cy.html

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>get into lobby with stabby
>try to record the game to show off to my friends
>game and mumble crash
>get reported
WHEN WILL MY SUFFERING END