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/mggg/ - Monster Girl Games General #69

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Animated edition

This general is for the discussion of games containing Monster Girls, main game of discussion is Monster Girl Quest, but people are encouraged to introduce new games.

Monster Girl Quest (MGQ): http://pastebin.com/CGWN0k1u
Monster Girl Island (3D game): http://monstergirlisland.com/
Monster Musume no Iru Nichijou Online: http://pastebin.com/xh3u3f0Y
Mobile games with Monster Girls: http://pastebin.com/NFaxEGib
Zell’s game Forest of Blue Skin: http://pastebin.com/uSUYw2L9
Quest Failed: https://frostworks.itch.io/quest-failed

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>>164541750
Will she get a scene in the anime?
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>tfw no chance of vore scenes making it in.
At least i can dream
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>>164541750
http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/announce/=/product_id/RJ190721
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Hey guys I'm the one person who posts Ferris and I'd like to state that I'm now going to post images of actual catgirls.

You can now post Ferris... it's time our bout together came to an end.
Really, it's good for the both of us.
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>>164541994
Dinner: https://mega.nz/#!rMk00LxD!1Yvhk7DKP4BUG6d1NSs9OS9mqFr_Ci42-LY1yVxgMX4 Lunch: https://mega.co.nz/#!i14EBKwL!tMh2AxfraFcsS9G7T9v3LHlg8zFEu5kKsBpsrwNaUWw Breakfast: https://dargothtranslations.wordpress.com/2013/04/18/monster-girl-quest-delicious-breakfast-scenarios/
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>>164542136
http://exhentai.org/g/581098/0e6cd408ff/ http://exhentai.org/g/671438/9cfbf44f4d/ http://exhentai.org/g/749499/500b0e94ab/

Dinner translation soon
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>>164542273
>>164542136
>>164541994
Go away.
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>>164542078
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>>164542401
Rude
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>>164541994
>>164542136
>>164542273
I love you, Voreanon.
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>>164541994
>>164542136
>>164542273
I love you, Voreanon

>>164542545
REE
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>>164541917
Nah but how about having 5 more generic succubi lmao XDDDD

t. hentai animators
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>>164541917
Depends on how well the first episode is going to sell
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>>164542986
Well their is the succubus ancestor in it so makes sense
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>>164543219
Well the quality seems decent enough so far, so it's probably likely it will,
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>>164541750
This might bring a few people back into the general.

Can't be worse that Impcreamanon, egganon, Angelanon, and Yaofag.
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>>164543628
Don't forget about that faggot who hates spats.
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Take two:

So I haven't posted over here since the trilogy finished, where do I start with the new stuff? Also, is it still worth playing if you're not into 90% of the fetishes? Don't judge me.

Thanks anonymous person who realized I'm dumb as fuck and missed the new thread.
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>>164543805
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>>164543936
Just get Paradox Part 1 if you've conpleted the trilogy. It's mostly translated and stuff like the Delicious Vore stuff and the upcoming hentai are pretty optional and side stuff.
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>>164543805
Spats are inferior.
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>>164544957
hard
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>>164542005
>kissing
What the fuck
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>>164544957
Yeah I'd rather have a waifu in jagged metal legwear than something soft and tight like spats. I'll call a fabricator.
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>>164542136
Not a vorefag here, still can't wait to see Succubus Witch's scene get translated.

>you will never be covered in a semen demon's spit from head to toe
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>Volume 3 Nekopara trailer just released

I'm not ready.
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MGQ has an anime now?
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>>164546068
Glad you understand why spats are inferior.
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>>164546646
>>164542005
【発売日から3日間、300円割引にて販売!】
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>>164543628
Yao is best grill
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>>164543805
So don't forget about everyone with good taste?

>>164546068
Sounds good, I'll post an example.

>>164547470
Yeah it's about time one of those spatsfags got it right.
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Succubi are cosplay tier
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Ilias did nothing wrong, monster girls are a parasite race.
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>>164551519
Shikibus sisters did nothing wrong, Iliasfags are the cancer of the entire universe.
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i unironically like granberry and alice the best
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>>164552258
Me too but in the opposite order.
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>>164552258
You're not alone brother.
Also armorless granberry best granberry.
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>>164553453
Ugh
>big scaly hands
>huge scaly thighs
>big scaly feet
>disproportionate utter lack of breasts
Thank goodness frfr made a better girl and gave her a buncha scenes.
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>>164552258
I'm gonna get sad if I won't be able to buy Alice a ribbon in Paradox
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>>164553871
Nothing wrong with scaly hands and feet.
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>>164542078
Ferris is cute!

CUTE!
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>>164542005
Sub when?
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Threadly reminder!
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>>164542005
Well, that's not quite how I imagined luka to sound. I was thinking something more like "Meis from thousand arms, but better acted."

>>164552108
I wish I was a shikibus
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>>164558105
>you will never be the monster girl
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>>164542005
>erubetie

YES PLEASE
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>>164542005
It's not even out and I can already see the Quality. Well it's porn, I guess.
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>>164562807
It's pretty good.
Relatively speaking
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>>164562807
Honestly I'm just glad its not queen bee and the Erubetie sections of the preview seemes pretty decent. Im confused about the horde of generic succubi though.
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>>164565389
Random girls from Succubus Village maybe?
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>>164565389
My problem with the Eruebetie scene is that from what I can tell they are making her move like a human who happens to have some goo on her. A slime girl should move in a more flowing, inhuman manner. But I guess that is harder to animate.

It doesn't help that they've given her normal nipples, a normal-looking vagina, etc. A slime girl uses the normal area for a vagina for sex simply out of convenience, not because she has a different organ there.

Having her kiss Luka is a nice touch though.
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>>164565832
we haven't seen much yet desu

also i think the kiss is really hot
am i a degenerate?
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>>164550709
YOU'RE cosplay tier, anon.
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>>164552108
shiki will liberate this planet from ilias fags
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>>164562807
We'll get more of that Quality in a few days. Probably.
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>>164567175
We're all cosplay tier
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>>164562807
>>164565832
>>164568805
Aw, you guys, I'm sure its not that bad
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>>164542005
>Angel Halo looks weird
>Random Succubus that I don't think were even in the game
>Erburtie's scene from Undine cave is in
>Alma's scene looks like it comes from her part 2 final battle
>Alice and Luka are in front of IIIas's temple posing yet Alice never fights alongside Luka like that until the end of part 2

The hell is going on here? It also looked like Erubertie actually got off from Luka cumming which is something no monster does in game. I think Luka's not even going to put up much of a fight in this little animation or even get the chance to fight before he gets raped.
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>>164546145
Didn't Dargoth already translate that?
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>>164542005
>betty screams and squeals like a fucking hamster
WHY???? She's supposed to be calm, like whispers and shit
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>>164571683
Because this is made by people who have not played the game, just look at Luka, he's not resisting at all. In game Luka resists all the time and in fact one monster threatens to just kill him and suck up his gory corpse if he doesn't stop it.
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>>164572314
they.... they ruined my waifu...
*sobs in corner
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>>164573574
Yup, they'll likely have Betty enjoy it so much she'll keep Luka but they'll definitely half Alma kill him after a final nut. They probably won't do an Alice scene at all
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>page 10
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best girl?
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>>164579091
Five of them.
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>>164579091
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>>164579845
Where can i watch the trailer?
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>>164582252
http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/announce/=/product_id/RJ190721
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so how do you guys think the anime will turn out
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>>164582470
well it won't be a catastrophic failure
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who has the best cg in mgq
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>>164585107
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>>164585107
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>>164572314

Can't say this is surprising, honestly. I'm still astonished this was even made and is about to be released. I'll definitely watch for fun, but I don't have any high expectations. The art quality is also pretty meh.
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>>164585542
what is she doing down there?
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>>164586941
vore.
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>>164586941
See
>>164546145
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>>164546145
is that guy going to be ok?
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I'm surprised there isn't another translation patch out yet for paradox.

Oh well, Paradox 2 won't be out for a long time, anyway.;_;
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>>164541750
>>164541917
wait what anime? wtf??
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>>164589245
This question has been asked like 10 times.
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>>164587493
He's going to be a baby again, in reverse.
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>>164589347
sorry it's been a while since the last time i visited
i just got bored and remembered at the /mggg/ general existed
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>>164589469
i dont think that can happen, that doesnt seem very nice for her to do that
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>>164589521
it was linked literally 10 posts above you
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>>164589553
It is what happens, she even says it like that.
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>>164590832
she doesn't seem very nice, rather rude, i wouldn't like her
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>>164590887
She's nice and a cute >>164553871
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>>164592153
why is he so small is she just very big
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>>164592153
She's not nice at all in that h scene she wants to use Luka as a battery for her magic to unseal the two original succubus twins. Honestly, none of the succubus in the game are nice in rape scenes, they all kill Luka and want to go around raping every thing to death forever and ever in a massive orgy. But that's monster/angel programming for you. They were made to treat sex as preying on something, it takes alot of self control for them to even stop once they get started, Alma for example treats her species lore seriously so nobody will ever have sex with her and live to brag about it. She's the only knight to kill Luka every time.
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What's ya'll take on the TowerGirls game?
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>>164592676
It's ok.
Yandere dog my favorite.
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>>164592559
She kisses romantically, she's nice.
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>>164593536
First episode is full of succubi, not witchy just a bunch of randoms and alma elma.
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>>164593536
thats not romantic, and there is no consent, thats not very nice
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>>164596801
Well, I shall have to disagree. She's a high tier cutie.
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>>164597459
its only cute if there is consent, rape cant be cute
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>>164597459
Sara's scenes are lewd as hell even when she isn't under cock lust influence. Why is she a lesbian?
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>>164598217
I'd say Sara is bi.
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>>164552258
>>164553453
I can't fucking believe there's barely been any new fanart of her for several years
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>>164598550
is that anal vore?
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>>164598550
Sara is in paradox? Besides that might just be paradox Sara that's bi

>>164598731
Probably because Granberia is for bro tier not lewd. I can't think of a single fan of hers who talks about lewding her more than than other stuff. She's pretty out of character in a series like this. Then again, I don't think Luka's friend in paradox, Sonya,right, gets any lewd either because she's a human girl and practically Luka's sister
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>>164598793
Maybe if she was Alma, since she's using tail drain.
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>>164599052
>Probably because Granberia is for bro tier not lewd.
Sure, but there hasn't been any non-lewd fanart either :/
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>>164599052
>practically Luka's sister
This would literally be a plus if she didn't look like ass, and not in the positive way.
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>>164598731
Part 3 killed her.
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>>164598731
There's barely any new fanart of MGQ as a whole, really.
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>>164597537
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>>164604958
thats not very cute
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>>164604087
God that's ugly.
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>>164604958
>>164605056
Well I gotta admit I felt a bit uncomfortable hearing Luka in that trailer. Voice can really add a lot of emotion to the scene, and him asking out for Alice as he wakes up and starts being raped made me feel bad for the boy.
I can't imagine how some of the heavier scenes with the fucked up angels would play out, if they ever did that.
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>>164605056
You're gay then.
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>>164605362
i am not gay, i think that rape cant be cute
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>>164603373
How?
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>>164605430
>i am not gay, i think that i am gay
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>>164605678
thats very rude to call someone gay
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>>164576362
>They probably won't do an Alice scene at all
That's impossible
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>>164576362
>They probably won't do an Alice scene at all

TT would sue.
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>>164605328
Yeah, reading Luka's pleads and hearing them are totally different. Now imagine hearing him actually cry and beg for his life with Alma Elma and Erberutie, as they sadistically tell him he's gonna die. They could go even darker and have a scene with the Cobra girl and we all know how that played out if you lose. God, that one killed the boner when I first got it
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>>164598550
I'd say Sara is GROUNDED!
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>>164611274
If Sara is a succubus here and the king is with you, does that mean Sara's a different character than she was in the original verse?
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>>164611778
She'd probably learn to transform at will.
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Are there any battles where Luka isn't instantly beaten if the angel or monster girl puts it in her vag?
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>>164598793
No, this is anal vore.
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>>164613760
how do I go about making a succubus fall in love with me and not kill me instantly
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>>164614486
Feed her shota sandwiches.
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>>164614486
Only Alma's father knows the secret.
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>>164616415
I MUST MEET THIS BRAVE SOUL
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>>164553871
>big scaly hands
>huge scaly thighs
>big scaly feet
Literally nothing wrong with any of those.
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>>164616415
>implying he wasn't milked for semen then tail vored

>>164616946
Except everything wrong with all of those
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why do you guys like rape, isnt rape very rude an mean
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>>164617073
Bitch became a human just to be with him
Just who the fuck was that guy
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>>164618440
Oh right that was a thing.
But this was the same mother who made Alma ashamed of her super kung-fu power?
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>>164617073
>>164618440
>>164618871
Wait a minute, when was this revealed?
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Err... bad news. The plan was to have the Alma Elma scene done by tonight, but I, uh... kinda fucked it all up lads. Works fine on my computer, was fucked to shit when I tried playing it on my friends, and not due to the usual HTML nonsense. Somehow the translation reverted to the pure machine gibberish.

While I'm debugging though, here's a question for y'all - half of Alma Elma's scene was translated by an actual person. The rest is a weird mix of a machine translate and kinda, sorta a rewrite by me. By "rewrite", I don't mean changing the plot or inserting some disgusting handholding fetish, but I'm kinda just guessing based on the machine translation, so I can't call what I do a translation.


Your options at this point are - I keep the half of the scene that was legitimately, by a person translated, and have the rest be the machine + rewrite

or

All of it is machine rewrite.

Not the best choice, but the translator vanished into thin air and I can't wait any longer for him. So inconsistent quality, or consistently eh- quality, that's your options.

Also, guy who machine translated and sent me the two scenes - this is actually pretty decent - I'm gonna tweak it a bit, but it's better than nothing.
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>>164621724
Why must everything be rape for Luka? Even his spirit buddies and lesbian friend do this with him. I think his aunt does it too unless someone lied to me about a marcelia paizuri scene
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>>164622343
Because that's how he likes it.
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>>164622343
There is no real Micaela scene, is fanart.

But yeah, Luka needs the rape vibes.
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>>164622593
Sonya has h scenes, does she have to do this shit,too even through she's his childhood friend?
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>>164622343
Because this a femdom monstergirl H-game, Anon.
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>>164622821
Bu when two people give their first times to each other it should be all bubbly and nyan nyan.
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>>164623489
Femdom. Monstergirl. H-game.

This isn't Nekopara, Anon.
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>>164550434
Jagged metal is alright, as long as it is accompanied by spats.

That succubus looks like a good way to get lacerations.
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>>164623775
Jesus christ what a perfect butt
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>>164619796
Damn
First option sounds better imo.
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>>164611274
ah good old Sabasa King the only reason to marry sara would be that the king if your father is law
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monster girls seem very rude from how you people have described them, i do not like them very much
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>>164622343
The Micaela h-scene is NG+ mod. She doesn't really go full hora. She mostly just teases him for wanting to fuck his aunt.
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>>164623775
>lacerations
Mamono Mana.
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>>164624883
Sorry, I don't enjoy shit.
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>>164624654
Oh, so she doesn't do anything to him to make him cum, just teasing? That's good. Finally, Luka has at least one sane member of his family tree still living.
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>>164625045
What?
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>>164625073
Oh, he cums. It's just not full-on rape compared to most of the other scenes.
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>>164625350
He's talking about KC.
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>>164625351
So what does she do to him then? something akin to Sara and Meia?
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>>164618440
>>164618871
I think I missed something when playing MGQ or is this a """headcanon"""?
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>>164625436
Titfuck with gentle bullying. Makes him admit he wants to fuck her before finishing him off.

It's still pretty tame, though. And it's just an evaluation scene, anyway.
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>>164625350
He's just one of those weirdo spats people who hates thighhighs and loves spats.
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>>164625678
I cannot imagine how anyone with more than two brain cells can actually hate thighhighs.
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>>164625997
It's not 2005 anymore, thighhighs have lost their appeal.
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>>164626301
So now it's cool to have shit taste?
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>>164626301
This guy.
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succubi are mean, do not reproduce with them
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>>164625540
Q&A
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>>164541994
I love you voreanon. Spend this (you) wisely
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>>164618871
>ashamed of her super kung-fu power?
This is funny because if what the Lilith sisters are saying is true she takes after minagi who uses super Kung-fu
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>>164626667
Sorry, I can't find it. Googled and only got some translation from the wiki.
Got any links?
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>>164627854
http://seesaawiki.jp/mong/d/%BC%C1%CC%E4%A5%B3%A1%BC%A5%CA%A1%BC%A4%DE%A4%C8%A4%E1

Q.アルマエルマの母親は存命ですか?(ネタバレに触れるならごめんなさい)
A.女王位を引退した後は人間となり、どこかの男性の妻として一生をまっとうしたと思われます。

Q.アルマエルマの母親は結婚して人間になって一生を全うしたとのことですが、意外ともんむすが人間化して男性と添い遂げるっていうのはポピュラーなんですか?また、アルマエルマはそんな母のことをどう思っていたんでしょうか?
高位の妖魔にとって、理想的な引退のようです。アルマエルマも特に感想はありません。
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Isn't she only supposed to show up in MGQ:Paradox? Are we going to see another timeline in this hentai? Or is it just the animators throwing in as much succubi as possible?
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>>164628129
That's very romantic, but wouldn't it be more effective to make your husband live longer rather than turn into a human?
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>>164628359
>>164211459
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>>164628359
Wait, that's an actual shot from the animation? I thought that was an Albert trace.
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>>164628561
>muh humanity
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So was replaying Paradox. Is this supposed to be a male elf? I haven't seen this sprite used elsewhere. Didn't know male elves existed in the MGQ universe.
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>>164629251
I'm pretty sure that's a sprite from RPG Maker's defaults. The creator may have just been too lazy to create a distinctly female elf sprite for the overworld and just used that, or maybe male elves do exist, but I'm leaning toward the former.
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>>164629251
Is the whole thing translated yet?
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>>164629612
Pretty much. The main storyline is translated but some of the minor scenes (ex: sex scenes, a couple of in-battle texts, conversations with a special trigger, etc.) have not.
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>>164629747
Has he talked about when he expects the whole thing to be done? I don't want to start until it's completely finished.
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>>164542005
There's not going to be any lolis in that, is there?
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>>164629805
Nope, but I wouldn't recommend waiting. All the untranslated stuff is fairly unimportant.
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>>164624052
Don't worry, I'll do my best to have it be how it should be- this isn't going to be Luka saying "HOLY FUCK" or any of that western garbage. I'm also using five translators and literally going word by word.

I waited for the JP translator guy for a week, he seemed hyped but then disappeared into thin air. I'll leave his stuff in, seems like the obvious option, you can also use it as a metric to tell me how to approach the newer scenes going forward.
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>>164629910
Probably not. Maybe adult Tamamo/bandits? Oppai loli?
We just don't know
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What was his problem?
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>>164630359
Can you had in some funny memes, maybe like a reference to Donald Trump? Something that will feel incredibly dated within just a couple of months.

Thanks.
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>>164630704
He only wanted humans to enjoy monster, angel and human pussy
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>>164618871
Alma was ashamed she was best at Kung Fu whoop ass so she became the succubi of all succubi in an attempt to hide it but considering how she loves the arena she jsut can't help herself, even if she still rapes people there. Fun fact, her stage name there "Kyuba" is her mother's name and it's kinda pointless to use it anymore since the whole world knows who she is but she still uses it.

>>164619172
Q and A after part 3 was completed and in story when Alma fights one of the chimera specifically made to counter her, since she kept her kung fu a secret that chimeria lost pretty fast, she dominated her opponent just as well as Tamamo did only Betty and Granberry really struggled in their battles, Betty had to hope she'd survive her nuke attack and Granberry had to try out her version of Luka's Quadruple Giga to win. Makes me wish Alice or Micaela had gotten a fight to themselves too but Alice sticks to Luka like glue and Micaela was running on fumes anyway.
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>>164630704
His problem was that he did not faithfully carry out the will of the Divine Light Goddess to the best of his ability.
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>>164631447
Piss.
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>>164631518
How can you say you love your waifu if you wouldn't drink her piss?
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>>164631447
I wonder if they'll keep her a bitch or they'll change her to still be a bitch but a bitch with empathy and a heart. I still can't believe she legitimately liked Luka and in the end she did all the shit she did is because she was jealous and lonely.
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>>164631447
Good.

Angels leave.
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>>164631764
And brain-damaged
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>>164631764
She would have been redeemable if Luka had chosen her. But when Luka betrays her, just like everyone else, and for a monster no less, it's too much and she loses it. I'm sure in Paradox Ilias will end up with a better relationship with Luka and everyone else.
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>>164632494
Maybe if she actually trusted Luka instead of using him a s a tool and actually tried to understand humanity instead of acting as an unreachable genie then maybe she wouldn't of ended up dead. I mean, she kinda burned all her bridges, the world will never forgive her and if she were the short stack she is now in paradox grudge barring humans,monsters and angels would of definitely gone after her she wouldn't even get the coursey of dying in ignorant orgasm because so many people hate her fare too much to do anything to her but make her suffer. Not even Luka, who stood against hatred from all races would of been able to shield IIyas from that onslaught
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>>164631764
Probably the latter. There's hints of Ilias character growth, at least in the scenes. She's been through a lot of shit - she got depowered, her angels abandoned her and heaven may be destroyed by Chaos. In her monologue, she basically admitted that she's ronery. Even if she's not with Luka, she willingly starts travelling with monsters.

Also, daily reminder that early Alice wasn't much better and was one bad decision away from obliterating Luka.
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>>164632494
Why was she such a retarded liar then?
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So would anyone happen to remember that one time this one faggot posted here about a MG university VN? Everything's going perfectly fine, but we just need one or two more artists to complete the team because it's hard for our one artist to cover it all.
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>>164632820
Yeah, had Luka not checked on her Alice would of killed him sadistically for no reason.
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>>164633547
Yeah it's not like she hated humans at first or anything.
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>>164626301
>IT'S 2017 ARE YOU KIDDING ME
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>>164633248
We don't have any
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>>164630704
didn't read the guide on party forming till endgame.
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>>164630359
Thanks man, appreciate it
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>>164633248
Most, if not all, of our drawfags have moved on, sadly. Sorry, Anon.
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>>164633248
All our artists left long ago because we're cancerous; try shilling the /jp/ thread, although you might get banned (from /jp/ for three days) because the mod which lurks that thread is literally insane
The /jp/ thread has actually good artists too.
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>>164634627
Any ideas on where they ran to? I'm sort of lurking /a/ waiting for a monmusu thread so it's not completely off-topic. I can only take so much more deviantart shit.
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>>164634925
I don't get how you think we're cancerous and then mention the /jp/ thread. That shit's plenty more autistic than here.
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>>164634925
Well, throwing a bone in /jp/, thanks for the tip anon.
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>>164635070
I didn't say they aren't cancerous, but /mggg/ is (was, maybe; can't be hostile towards nonexisting folks) particularly hostile towards content creators.
And autism has nothing to do with cancer; in fact, 'cancer' at this point is a meme term and actual buzzword, so maybe I shouldn't have used it at all and said 'hostile' instead.
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Why does animated betty have a vagina?
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>>164635787
Maybe the older /mgqg/, but those guys have mostly left. Mainly just a few people.

I've seen no bullying of Frost Work when I've been in here.
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>>164636120
At least Frostworks-san is a pretty cool guy
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>>164636120
Well the damage is done 'innit cause I don't see jiffic drawing Sarah anymore.
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Been way out of the loop, is Paradox supposed to be a sequel or a spin-off? How much is translated so far? (Mixed messages on the fucking translator website, anywhere from 20% to 50% whatever the fuck that means.)

I miss Rogue.
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>>164636684
Spinoff, everything important is translated
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>>164636684
A spinoff with many ties to the original.
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Luka's kids are so horribly designed, the IIias loli following you around is the same one from the end of part 3, she didn't die but the last of her power sent her ass to this universe through she seems to have lost a good chunk of memories if she thought she was still the leader of heaven and that she could simply bully Luka into obeying her.
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>>164637143
>>164637289

I've tried to get bits and pieces from the threads about it before I asked stuff, but from what I've seen it's "Go with Illias first then Alice on NG+"?

Are the stories different enough to warrant a second playthrough?
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>>164637480
When people say that they're talking about gameplay.
The plot is identical, you just choose whose interactions you get to see.
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>>164636684
It's set in an alternate universe that is suffering from the aftereffects (possibly) of the original Trilogy. So kind of like a sequel in some ways but not in other ways.


>>164637480
If you've played the first trilogy, then yes, Illias is the better route (since she has some metaknowledge about the original trilogy universe which makes things interesting).

And the main plotline isn't too different but there's enough dialogue to explore to make it worth running through a second time. Hell, you probably want to run through a couple of times to level up your characters anyways.
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>>164638047
>A game where Alice and Luka are strangers

I don't think I could take that. I ship them far too hard.
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>>164638657
Technically speaking, Ilias is the interloper here.
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>>164638735
I just want a MGQ RPG with Alice, Luka, and their twin children.
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Let the ship wars commence!
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>>164639180
>please don't report for lewd last panel
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>>164634948
Jiffic and Ecstasy both have tumblrs. You could ask them, but they're probably busy. Maybe Wizard, but I have no idea where he's at.

The rest of the drawfags were pretty awful from what I remember.
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>>164638657
That's what NG+ is for.

>>164638908
You can probably recruit the two children in the Paradox game. Eventually.
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>>164639327
Thanks, tracked down their tumblrs. Are they ever around here?
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>>164638657
shipping is the most cancerous thing there is
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>>164639697
>That's what NG+ is for.
I thought NG+ reversed time before Alice and Luka got married.

How is NG+, by the way?
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>>164639854
What's wrong with supporting a canon couple that has great chemistry?
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>>164639829
Don't think so.
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>>164639947
unfinished forever
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>>164639947
It's good, but updates take forever. Last actual mod update was in July I think.
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>>164640024
Ain't nothin wrong with shipping
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>>164569821
You have no idea what just happened
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>>164639947
What I mean was the NG+ mode in Paradox. So that you can experience both the Illias + Luka route as well as the Alice + Luka route. Not the NG+ for the original trilogy.
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can i rape a monster girl
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>>164643198
Sure you can, if you're strong enough.
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>>164640486
That's Heinrich, right? RIGHT?
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>>164643198
MGE §§ 1.06: "They love being wrapped in the arms of an onii-chan way bigger than themselves and ravished. There is mutual attraction. They love to rape, and be raped."
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>>164644110
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>>164634925
What are some differences between here and the /jp/ thread senpai?
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>>164639327
>>164639829
Can you give me link to Ecstasy one? I can't find that one.
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>>164644738
/jp/ thread gets triggered hard by MGQ since it's a /d/ tier game. The place is filled to the brim with literal autism and they also have shitstorms almost on a daily basis.
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>>164644738
They sperg out over vanilla shit like yuri, no joke
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>>164645143
yuri is pretty boring desu senpai, vanilla is perfectly fine though.
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>>164645143
Not really a difference, people have been known to sperg out about yuri in these threads as well. Posts like this >>164645227 should be proof enough.
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>>164645227
I don't think you understood my post.
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>>164644738
The /jp/ thread talks about MGE generally speaking. They don't mind MGQ (at least as long as you don't post actual abominations or shit art) but nobody talks about it there. Threads there generally go to 2000 or so, so posting reaction images is really rare otherwise they run out of room.
Also, a bunch of writefags and somewhere in the range of a dozen drawfags.
They're faster than us, but not that much faster compared to actually fast generals like /fgog/; /jp/ is a board relatively slow in creating new threads, so you can be autosage'd for like 3 days without actually 11'ing.

>>164645075
>>164645143
Highly objective statements that will help someone understand the differences.
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>>164645276
>Anon just says he doesn't like yuri
>He's sperging out

Cmon, Anon. You know better.
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>>164643198
100 pushups, 100 situps, 100 squats, and running 10 km, every single day.
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>>164645143
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>>164645043
Here you go.

http://notecstasy.tumblr.com/
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>>164645895
probably tired of it
Basically every nonhuman doujin there is is monsterboys
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>>164635946
Because.
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>>164645908
Thanks!
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>>164635946
Slime girls can be whatever they want to be. The only reason she's not manifesting pussies everywhere yet is to not creep out the shota.
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>>164646836
She's a slime, you can fuck her literally anywhere.
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>>164647443
Among other things. Polymorphing is underrated af.
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>>164647684
Her face is melting
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>>164645276
>sperg

Wow, super rude, as expected of yurifags.
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monster girls are mean
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>>164650390
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>>164652735
>all she ever wanted to do is wash the dirt off your body
>she only ever wanted to wash your unclean penis
>she doesn't even enslave you
>she's too nice to eat meat of any kind
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>>164655170
>she doesn't even enslave you
She kinda does, since Luka is unable to continue his journey.
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>>164655170
>trusting vegetarians
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>>164655473
No, he just keeps returning
Its his fault
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>>164655473
She didn't make him, though. He decided to stick around and keep going back to her on his own.

Same thing happens with the dog girl in paradox.
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>>164655170
>too nice to eat meat
>is a crab, which is...a predatory species...
That doesn't endear me at all. It's like, being hipster or some shit just to look cool.
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>>164655606
>>164655748
She rapes him and he's unable to continue his journey.
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>>164637480
Tbh I think Illias is much stronger than Alice. I can see the potential in Alice in future games when Alice has more races and jobs mastered but a normal part 1 Illias seems to be straight up better than Alice. All this assuming you aren't maxing out all available jobs/races/doing chaos labyrinth.
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>>164656502
Ilias is useless once luka gets lowly angel skills
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>>164656574
Illias heals way more/deals more holy damage than Luka is capable of, and has decent pleasure attacks. Plus her trait is very good for holy.
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>>164656502
If you're powerlevelling for LoC, Alice >>>>> Ilias. Mostly because Alice can have Seadragon Dancer as a race, one of the best supporter races current in the game. There's few things better than a sedargon dancer pope for magic utility in LoC.

I prefer Ilias as a character, want to see how her story pans out. So, what would be the best build for Ilias on a normal run, assuming little to no level grinding? I've tried the Bowmaster/Cupid route but it felt kinda underwhelming. Honestly, Hild is a far better ranged attacker and she has more skills, more damage and a race completely immune to most statuses.
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>>164656502
If TT doesn't wank Alice Ilias will probably end up stronger, since her 'normal' form is a hell of a lot more powerful. Remember she basically swats Alice out of the sky like a fly.

>>164657554
Seadragon Dancer is just flat out broken, it's ridiculous

>build
Holy Nuker High Angel with Einhrjar unlocked is pretty good
As far as LoC there's no point in comparing builds in that place because the only way you're beating superbosses is through exploits.
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>>164658071
I remember alice punching ilias in the face so badly she outright refuses to show up for luka's baptism and abandons him
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>>164658775
I remember Ilias specifically saying "I didn't baptize you to see if humans would fucking finally get over themselves and stay loyal to the shit they promised they would". Dunno about getting her face bashed in.
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>>164659304
I also remember Ilias saying she created the world through her efforts alone and monsters are also her creations.
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Don't mind me, just posting best waifu.
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>>164658071

Yep. There isn't much point to compare either when the advanced races and jobs have yet to be unlocked. Both Alice and Illias still have one advanced tier Monster/Angel race to go at the very least, and that's assuming TRTR don't add any more in Part 2 & 3.

>As far as LoC there's no point in comparing builds in that place because the only way you're beating superbosses is through exploits.

Pretty much this.
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skunk girls
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>>164663338
they stink
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>>164644110
Which one is that?
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Are any of the mobile games in the pastebin besides dragon puzzle worth playing? I've never seen they mentioned here lately
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>>164664917
I assume the language barrier and lack of English resources for navigating the games might make them more difficult to play and discuss for most of us
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>>164663338
I want a skunk girl to piss in my mouth
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>>164665150
>>164665150
I see, I can play these games rather well with my japanese knowledge but I can't find if they are playable or just boring, the monster musume game was very discussed even it being in japanese though
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>>164660749
She's fat.
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>>164667793
She's not, that's my baby in her belly!
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>>164667954
Her baby is going to look like some abomination, sorry to break it to you.
She has no hips either, her birth is going to be complicated and she might die in the process too.
You reap what you sow, anon.
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>>164668568
betty is superior waifu anyway
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>page 10
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bump for best girl
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>>164672840
>Luka a shota
>dick bigger than mine
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Episode's out. It's a montage of Luka's deaths,episode starts with IIias evaulation, we can on Luka talk here while we have a close up of IIias she goes over 3 times Luka ended up dying, The succubus scene, Erubertie scene and Alma Elma scenes and at the end you can see that she's raping Luka,too. When he cums he wakes up and the episode ends with him and Alice heading to Grangold as the new character watches them from a cliff

main difference is that they aren't hiding that IIias is evil, after she finishes Luka off you can see her flash her signature smug
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>>164676759
>after she finishes Luka off you can see her flash her signature smug
Nice.
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>>164676759
>episodes out
source?
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>page 9
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>>164679171
>not even waiting for page 10 before bump
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>>164676759
Where can it be found ?
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>>164672945
Sucks for you.
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Would monster girls bully you for having a small dick?
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>>164662091
>and that's assuming TRTR don't add any more in Part 2 & 3.
There are too few advanced races/jobs and there's talk of Marine and Pirate jobs in Grandeur. The latter especially has its skillset (Piracy) mentioned in a few ability descriptions and Sables as aspirations of being a Pirate, so it wouldn't surprise me if some stealth patch for part 1 updated her default class once part 2 is released. Not to mention the Samurai job.

Speaking of things to come, I cracked open the scripts a while ago and found some very curious things concerning enemy placement. Won't bore you with the details unless you really want them but long story short...

-the insect monsters that used to be in Plansect Village are in a new location altogether
-we can expect more then a few new monsters in Succubus Village
-the rest of La Croix's zombies are slated to appear in that Puppeteer Tower
-there might be a boss rush at the Monster Lord's Castle similar to the original trilogy, except you fight Tamamo right before Alice the 15th
-there might be "heaven" and "hell" variants of the world map (the latter implied by battle conversations with Alice the 16th and Reaper, something about hell needing money to function)
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>>164681773
They would bully you for having a dick.
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>>164681773
Some of them might do it if they knew it really bothered you, but they will still rape you.

A dick is a dick.
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>>164682053
>there might be "heaven" and "hell" variants of the world map

Damn, that would be really cool. I love how much effort he actually puts into the detail of the game.

>>164682053
>The latter implied by battle conversations with Alice the 16th and Reaper, something about hell needing money to function

I really need to start using talk on the boss monsters in the LoC and Reaper fights.
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>>164545895
>Implying kissu is not the patrician mans fetish
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>>164545895
>not wanting to be kissed by erubetie
Are you gay anon?
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>>164682053
Damnit, that is some cool shit. Would really like the extra details anon.
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>>164685245
She looks like a Wixoss character to me
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>>164690351
>Most hated by Ilias

Grudge match when?

Hopefully they eradicate each other.
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>>164691164
You really think that abomination can hold a candle to our goddess?
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>>164684889
>Wanting to kiss jelly that might (will) kill you
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>>164691651
I don't care who wins. As long as either Pisslias or Shittybi dies, I'm happy.
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What do slimes smell like?
Like those putty toys?
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>>164683837
>>I really need to start using talk on the boss monsters in the LoC and Reaper fights.
Don't. Conversations don't work on enemies in the LoC. Also, I only found out about those conversations from the CommonEvents file (incidentally, one can discover what to tell them in order to raise affinity, but where's the fun in that?). That being said, who'd be stupid enough to try to chat up Reaper while she's killing you?

>>164685245
The details are more like loose theories. Basically, I speculated what I did via a single script cloned next to each other. Basically, the lower pages shows you various locations in Japanese (mostly katakana; thankfully I can read most of them) with a number next to them. The number acts as an ID for each monster (obviously, Slime Girl is 1 and Bunny Slime is 2 and so on). As I scrolled down I noticed the locations went beyond that alternate world with the angels and I started to notice very familiar names.

As I scrolled down much farther, I found the profiles. Like the locations, they had IDs attached that correlate with each other but there was one key oddity. Or some oddities. Right after the Principality angel, there was another profile in Japanese. And another. And another. After throwing ten of them in Google Translate I came to three of conclusions (but I could be wrong here).

1. Every single last monster from the original trilogy has their profile "dummied" into the script.
2. Said profiles outright contradict the happenings of Paradox, implying that they're placeholders to remind ToroToro which monster goes where until they change them.

I'll get to the third soon. The placeholders also have IDs, much like the locations that aren't in part 1. For example, that Snake Miko from the VN part 3 is set to show up in Orochi's Cave in part 2, as is that evil albino lamia twin. Now granted, both the location and profile lists are fucking massive so I can't stand to compare each and every single one of them in one sitting.

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>>164692808
(continued)

I only check the locations that I believe are plot relevant, like Succubus Village. I then look at the ID and scroll down until I find a profile with the same ID, which of course, tells me which monster shows up there. Speaking of Succubus Village, that brings me to the third point.

3. Gaps.

As in, the IDs in the profiles have gaps that should correlate to the locations, which are all filled in. See the attached pic. Basically, I ran the profiles with IDs from 261-265. Basically the enemies you'd expect. Naccubus to the Chief Succubus. No Lilith and Lilium (they appear in an alternate Succubus Village accessed via the Tartarus in the Gold region). The profiles that ought to correlate to IDs 255-260 don't exist. That tells me that any instance where a location has no corresponding profile indicates a brand new monster. Which means we can expect about six new succubus in addition to the repeats from the VN. Maybe. They could be different monsters altogether (not like anyone expected the Imps so close to Iliasville).

I could keep going but these posts are getting long so you get the idea. Simply put, there are gigantic gaps in the profile IDs while everything is filled out as far as locations go. From what I can tell, there are LOTS of new monsters in store for us. Still, there is one more observation/theory I'd like to chime in.

>>164683837
>Damn, that would be really cool. I love how much effort he actually puts into the detail of the game.
As I said, there are indeed some curious findings. As I scroll lower and lower down the locations list I see some very familiar names appended with (天界) or (魔界). Particularly after the Hellgondo Tartarus. As an aside, Luka's female clone shows up in the "heaven" variant of Ilias Temple, as do many of the angels. To get to the point, I've been wondering how one travels to those varients. Or more precisely, how you can't get there.

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>>164691736
Accept the jelly.
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>>164692980
(in conclusion)

As in, I doubt even Luka, with his dimension-crossing ability, would be able to use a harpy feather to warp from his world to "heaven" or "hell". My reasoning is based on a different script file. The one that governs fast travel. Again, pic related. Three terms stick out. The aforementioned "heaven" and "hell" terms and 地上. Earth. The surface.

Every single place that can be warped to at this point in time--even the places beyond the first two Tartarus (wait, I forgot to cap that. Shit)--has a 地上 marker. Which means that the harpy feather and similar fast travel abilities are limited by a "plane of existence". Curiously, you can't warp to Hades. Which, for almost no reason, leads me to believe that doorway leads to another plane of existence. One that you can't return from. At least not with a harpy feather. I don't know. Like I said, I'm just guessing based off of...well, stuff.

Come to think of it, everyone in Rubiana vanished outright and left a message about going to the land of God. Yet they set things up in such a way that implies they'll be back. Not sure what to make of that.

tl;dr Shit's going to get crazy once part 2 is released.

Oh, one more thing. Back to the enemy script, the profiles stop at ID 523. The Gargoyle. The location IDs extend all the way to 728. Nuff said.
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>>164676759
Can I get some sauce with that?
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>>164693621
Pretty sure that's directly from anon's ass
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>>164693132
So would you be able to tell when we can expect to find each monster from the original games? Like some of the angels?
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>>164696202
It is weird that we didn't get some of the lower tier Angels in part 1 around Enrika.

I'm assuming the Edens will send them out on attack in part 2.
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>>164696597
I was fully expecting to start finding cupid, Valkyrie, and the angel soldiers around Mt. Saint Amos, since Ilias said it was the closest place to heaven nearby. I was pretty disappointed when that wasn't the case.
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Angel Soldiers were cute.
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>>164696202
Absolutely, but it'd be time consuming. Not to mention I'd have to run the profiles through a machine just to get a general idea of which monster it is.
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>>164699101
Is there a point to spoiling it like that?
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>>164700032
There's no context and it's confirmed that all the monsters from the original trilogy will show up, so no.
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why are monster girls so rude
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>>164701530
Because they can back it up with pure force and sexual prowess
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>>164701991
thats not nice or cute
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>>164699101
I just wanted to know when angel soldiers show up
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>>164693132
I think you might be slightly off in your analysis of hell/heaven variants for each normal location.

Mostly because... what does that even mean? Heaven is a real place in MGQ, so what would a heaven variant refer to? Like a village with higher than normal concentrations of holy energy?

Consider, as I've said before, that heaven exists. But so does hades, which could also be referred to as "hell."

So what I think is far more likely is that heaven/hell are being accessed from those areas of the normal map, rather than variants of the normal map existing. Kind of like how you can access hades from Illias Temple.

But good shit anon, nice find.
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>>164703774
Not him, but is it possible that they are alternate universes where Alice I/Illias won the Great War? Then you would have an entire land full of angels as well as an entire land full of monsters.
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>>164704518
No, because that was the first tartarus and you could warp to there.
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>>164703774
>Heaven is a real place in MGQ, so what would a heaven variant refer to? Like a village with higher than normal concentrations of holy energy?
Maybe. Even dungeons like Mt. Saint Amos and the Administrator's Tower of all places have a heaven varient. Still, nothing's set in stone and I'm just guessing. Only thing we can do is keep waiting. Curiously, some places like Port Natalia and Sabasa have both heaven and hell variants while others are exclusive to one or the other. Apparently there's a heaven version of Remina.

>>164705089
Highly unlikely. That world is largely the same as the VN, except that Luka gave up after his run-in with Granberia (I gotta find her profile, if she does have one). Ergo, the Great Monster Wars are at a standstill there as well.

>>164704518
Moderate possibility. but I'm wondering why the Doppelganger (Luka's female clone) is at the Ilias Temple. The first encounter there no less. After that are the angels from part 3 of the original trilogy. Dominion Endiel (that Angel whore), Cherub Womiel (the one with the worms)...Illias.

No, really. After another gap (eight missing profiles this time, still within the range of IDs in the heaven version of Ilias Temple) the next profile is Ilias as of part 3 from the VN. And after THAT is the profile for her final form! Eden's profile is nowhere to be found in the "イリアス神殿(天界)" ID range. Especially strange is that's the end of the locations suffixed with "(天界)". After that are the usual locations but with "(魔界)", starting with Grand Noah. And aside from the Gargoyle there, that's where the profiles end.

Wait, I said there are 8 missing profiles between Doppelganger and a repeating angel. Aren't there seven new Archangels?
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Quest failed is pretty gud tbqh, found it at some other site to download but thinking if I should mmmmmmaybe pay for the game, but that's only if the creator isn't just gonna drop the project..Is he working on part or what?
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>>164707193
https://www.patreon.com/user?u=3084036

Yes.
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>>164541750
>Animated
really?
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>>164706887
There's a new version of Eden leading them so that might have something to do with it.
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>>164710208
Really.
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>>164710631
whos animating it? any pvs?whos appearing?
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>>164710590
I'm slowly scouring through the moonrune profiles. Might find hers sooner or later but since there's two of them, I wonder if there'll be two profiles. Not sure how much sense that'll make.
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>>164711153
Holograms
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>>164711318
I don't get it. There's a small pic on ToroToro's developer blog featuring two Edens talking to each other about something.
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>>164711153
Anything on where the Lilith sisters and 6 ancestors will be found
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>>164692980
>Which means we can expect about six new succubus in addition to the repeats from the VN. Maybe. They could be different monsters altogether (not like anyone expected the Imps so close to Iliasville).

I remember some time back someone went through the script files and found where all the "group" monsters like Lamia sisters and the zombie hoard were stored and they found one that seemed to indicate a group of succubi. That's probably one of them. Could they possibly be the ones from the ova?

iirc there was also a group of arachne, as well.
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>>164710826
Random succubi, Alma and Erubestie sexing
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>>164711686
>>Anything on where the Lilith sisters and 6 ancestors will be found
I probably wasn't very clear earlier (>>164692980
) but there's a very high chance that the dummied profiles are from the original trilogy. All of the towns and such are listed (old and new; there's an Elf Village and Tanuki Village) but not all of them correspond to a profile.

To put this really simply, there are no profiles of the new monsters set to appear in parts 2 and 3. As in, no telling where the Lilith Sisters, Archangels, Seraphs, and Ancestors will be found.

>>164711881
I was about to ask more on that until I remembered that each individual in a group unit has their own profile. Still, I wonder if there's a separate script that handles group units because I doubt every large gap accounts for those.

>>164711881
>Could they possibly be the ones from the ova?
Is anyone getting on uploading that?

Oh, one thing I forgot and this time it's something you can actually see within the game proper. The Demon Hunter race has a Bow skill and Ability that inflicts extra damage to Humans.

...there are no human enemies in the game and the description for the Bow skill makes it a point to categorize Elf and Human separately (it does extra damage to both) so I know it isn't referring to Elves and I'm pretty sure there's a Demi-Human Slayer ability too. Last I checked you're primarily fighting mobs of monsters while trying to befriend them.

What the fuck?
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>>164711604
Two holograms you mean
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>>164712973
>...there are no human enemies in the game and the description for the Bow skill makes it a point to categorize Elf and Human separately (it does extra damage to both) so I know it isn't referring to Elves and I'm pretty sure there's a Demi-Human Slayer ability too. Last I checked you're primarily fighting mobs of monsters while trying to befriend them.

There's probably a very high chance the replicants from part 3 will be considered human.
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>>164712973
Worm Villagers are a human subrace so there are some in part 1, maybe you'll get a fight with Lazarus or Gold XIII or something like that as well.
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>>164631764
Well, she did help him a lot of times during his journey. Like all the evaluations no matter how many times he failed unlike most people in that universe, or the time she helped Luka find Sabasa Castle in the desert, or teaching him how to fight at the beginning of the first game.

It's obvious she cares for Luka, at least during the first two parts and the end of the third.
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>>164622821
>SPB uploads new doujin
>it's not part four

W H E N
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>>164713607
Yeah I might've jumped the gun and started to panic upon thinking you'd have to fight the soldiers of Grangold or something. Then I remembered that their army doesn't have a single human in it.

Might've been easy to forget because the Worm Villager, Suck Vore, Lily, and Lucia join as Worm Summoners as their race. Oh, and the Armored Berserker has his race categorized as Human too.

>>164713426
Even if they are, should they be recruitable they'll probably have a much higher race. Speaking of races, even the script dealing with class and race changes has a few stuff prepped for part 2. Some kind of Archfiend race among others like Fallen Angel. This might've been mentioned before but the file containing status effects have the artificial spirits listed as well as some stat-degenerating holy berserker status.
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>>164714107
>even the script dealing with class and race changes has a few stuff prepped for part 2. Some kind of Archfiend race among others like Fallen Angel
That data is in there for the scripted event where you can play as the edgelord.
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>>164714107
>Archfiend race among others like Fallen Angel.
It's for luka son
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>>164714015
>It's obvious she cares for Luka
She kills him three times at the beginning of the game, lies to him and never cared about what he thought or wanted.
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>>164714473
>>164714514
I gotta get on ball and stop forgetting stuff like that. In any case, it'd be stupid if he was the only one with that race.

Now then, I'm considering making a list of all the repeat monsters slated to appear and where in part 2 and beyond. Assuming anyone's interested. I know someone wanted to know when and where the angels show up.
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>>164714636
>She reincarnates him despite his insolence
>She tries to protect him from "truths" that are harmful to him and other humans
>She won't bend on Luka's self-destructive desires
Unlike Alice who leaves Luka to die, all the time, simply for not yet receiving proper training to fight monsters.
>Ilias is always there to give Luka an Evaluation and advice, and help him overcome his obstacles

People really need to stop spreading these blasphemous lies about Ilias.
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>>164714017
who is this girl?
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>>164715496
mashiro from layers of white
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>>164715673
she looks scary
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>>164715047
Luka's journey would have been impossible without Alice and you know it.

Actually even in Paradox White Rabbit tells Luka he's the only hope for this world, not Ilias.

Luka is the True Light.
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>>164715784
she is
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>>164715867
>Luka is the True Light.
Of course he is, look at him, he's adorable!

And Ilias helped him every step of the way!
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>>164715935
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>>164716362
She's only spooky when you don't fuck her.
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>>164716525
then she's even spookier
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>>164716707
she is cute
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>>164541917
>anime
wait whut
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>>164695258
I second this
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Since the guy who uploaded the 1st on panda said he got it from here, this one is out
http://www.toranoana.jp/mailorder/article/04/0030/47/90/040030479016.html
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>>164717351
is that a fox taur ran?
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Still gleaning through the enemy script. Apart from a couple of mermaids from the original part 3 showing up ahead of schedule in some kind of pirate cave and the Nekomata wandering the outskirts of Grand Noah, everything's lining up just as it did before. Dullahan, Cerberus, and Alraune show up exactly where they're supposed to. Might list their IDs out just for the hell of it if others want a rough idea of how many new monsters they can expect.

There's also some kind of magic academy after Grand Noah, with all of its eight encounters being brand new (as in, they have no profiles). After that is Yamatai.
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>>164717961
Scylla.
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>>164710826
>>164716981

4th post in thread: >>164542005
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>>164718294
I don';t know japanese
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>>164542005
im already hearing the guys voice as that one shota from kanokon.
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As an FYI, I wouldn't put much stock in the current IDs that the mobs beyond Paradox part 1 have. There's several new areas that are uncoverable via various means (like if you check the world map in VX Ace you can see the names and such of loads of areas, and yes, Plansect is included, so we'll be visiting there again eventually), with lots of old and new locations scattered around. That and the very fact we've seen so many new monsters would make it fairly obvious that there'll be new girls mixed among the old. My best guess is that TTR populated that list at the very start with just a massive copy/paste of everyone from part 1, and overwrote the descriptions and such as he assigned the real IDs. The locations tied to the mob IDs might be relevant, but I don't think any of the new locations from the world map digging are listed in there, so it's probably a similar scenario to the mob ID situation.

Anyway, in positive news, I'm going to be getting back to updating the job/race descrips sometime this weekend. Dayjob stuff is kicking my ass right now, and I'm also preparing for Snow Girl to fuck me in the ass with 8 inches (of snowfall) over the weekend, so that'll be fun. Next patch should have the job/race descrips updated and be a LOT easier for you to understand the hidden bonuses that various jobs have, and the notable ones that various races have (EG the fact that the Magician job has innate 75% resist to Fire/Ice/Lightning, and the fact that Vampires are immune to Lightning, that kinda thing), so look forward to that.
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>>164718595
Kouta?
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>>164718086
>There's also some kind of magic academy after Grand Noah, with all of its eight encounters being brand new (as in, they have no profiles).
interesting what about the bug/plant area
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>>164719127
>hidden
Truely my most hated game mechanic
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what are some good monster girl doujins
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>>164719390
It's not "hidden" so much as the changes to your resistances would be quite bulky to document in the descriptions.

Time Mage, for example, improves resistances to time-based statuses iirc.
Battlefucker improves resistances to erotic-related statuses. (As such, it can have quite a bit of value for Angels in particular.)

Most, if not all jobs, that directly deal heavily with certain elements or status categories increase resistances to them. And, of course, each race has their whole laundry list of base resistances for elements and status.
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>>164719428
layers of white
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>>164719753
link
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>>164716292
LEAVE LUKA ALONE
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>>164719818
hentai2read.com/layers_of_white/1/1/

extremely nsfw
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>>164719965
No.
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>>164720116
that is not cute, thats scary
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>>164719221
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HICbeNX80Fc
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>>164720485
Yeah. The main character's name was Kouta.
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D-do you all think i could run Monster Girl Island?
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>>164719127
>I'm also preparing for Snow Girl to fuck me in the ass with 8 inches (of snowfall) over the weekend
Awfully horny
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>>164719127
>(like if you check the world map in VX Ace you can see the names and such of loads of areas, and yes, Plansect is included, so we'll be visiting there again eventually)
Really? Might fire that up sometime. Maybe it's easier then going through scripts. As for the new locations, they may still contain monsters from the old trilogy. Already happened in part 1.

>>164719261
Plansect Village? Just got to that. Almost exactly the same as the VN from Alra Arum to the Alra Priestess...except all of the insects aren't there. Plants only. The insect monsters are near some place called エスタ (Esta?) instead.
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>>164721076
>that motherboard temp
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>164721405
Oh, and the Hornet Girl and Queen Bee aren't in either location.
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>>164721076
>122°C
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>>164721405
>>164721621
So, should we assume Alice 17th ended the race war with genocide?
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I'm surprised the last translation patch for MGQ Paradox was in back in Nov, you'd think translator would be all over this game.
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are there any monstergirl ntr doujins
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>>164722000
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>>164721885
Trolling? or ignorance?
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>>164722216
but who isn't attracted to monster rape/vore?
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>>164721621
Maybe where getting a bee/hornet area for them
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>>164721076
Dude get the Human Torch away from your mother board
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>>164721505
>>164721848
>>164722509

Is it bad? I just bought this damn thing today.
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>>164722618
>Is it bad
I'm surprised your computer hasn't shut down yet
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>>164721867
I might have to stop being so impulsive until I scroll further down. After Plansect Village is a place called Red Mountain. The remaining insects including the Hornet Girl and Queen Bee are there. Also, the elf at Enrika said Neris didn't kill anyone. I'm guessing she coerced them into a non-aggression treaty.

In any case, after the insects comes the slimes at Undine's Spring. With the exception of one missing profile, the exact same lineup. Undine included. Another single gap afterwards at a couple of new areas. A poison swamp at the east side of the Gold region and ライラの大滝 (Lyra's Waterfall?).
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>>164722000
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>>164722618
>Is it bad
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>>164722618
Nah it's fine, red means everything's all right.
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>>164722618
have you ever hear of overheating bud?
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>>164722618
Honestly it's possible that your mobo doesn't even have a temp sensor for the main board. Cheap ones usually don't have one and that causes hardware monitors to go crazy.
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>>164723237
Well that's good, about to ask why the graphics card or the CPU aren't as high.
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>>164723395
Don't just thrown the problem under the rag could be anything do you smell a burning smell or can you feel the heat when you open your case.
Are all your fans running
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>>164723749
Everything feels cool and no burning smell and fans are pretty damn quite.
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Reminder that this is accurate >>164597459
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>>164721076
>122
Is the detector broken or something
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>>164724113
Remove chaos abomination, replace with Tamamo
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>>164721076
Temps reminds me of an old piece of shit laptop I got in 2006, it would get to 220 °C on a bad day and I once got a second degree burn picking it up from the wrong angle, good times.

But honestly, yeah you can run it, maybe not on super ultra or whatever but my computer is worse and it gets a stable frame rate at normal.
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>>164727315
>220 °C
You should of destroyed that piece of crap you might of well be cooking some chips in the oven
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>>164727642
It did a good enough job destroying itself after about a year.
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>>164655862
She is a monster she can live only with semen and water.
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>>164726649
Abominations need love, too.
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>>164730254
why is this girl posted so often, what is special about her
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>>164730330
She's from paradox. Can't say much more.
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>>164727315
>220 °C on a bad day

Wow, you're lucky your laptop didn't explode on you.
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>>164718517
It's a PV. you don't need to know japanese.
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>>164721867
>So, should we assume Alice 17th ended the race war with genocide?

It was explicitly mentioned that Neris defeated everybody without any deaths.
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>>164721621
>>164721867

Oh, and Micaela's aide also mentioned something about her driving the leaders/extremists into territories
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>>164732145
Luka and Alice's children get shit done.
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>>164732145
>le not a single death meme
Pisses me off so much
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>>164734032
ToroToro went from poking fun at cliches to using them without a hint of irony.
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>>164734032
There's always shikubi if you want more death.
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>>164734032
She's Luke kid and has power to kick several factions asses in a day while not even using anywhere near her full power what did you expect
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>>164734032
She's an overpowered mutt with a father's complex. She wouldn't kill anyone unless it meant saving her father's life.
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>expect garbage
>story actually entertaining after a few hours
>unexpected feels
>finish game and find out theres a sequel
>get excited for another decent story
>its made in fucking RPG maker

why

why did they fuck it up?
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>>164735921
>>164736140
Nerf pls
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>>164736663
It's not really a sequel, Anon.

It's more of a spin off.
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>Neris wants to go on a date
>Asking politely, without even trying to rape him

While angel, human, and monstergirls all seem to want to rape Luka, I guess a mix of the three evens it out.
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>>164737473

fair enough

does paradox have a good enough story to warrant a playthrough? i like RPGs just rpg maker games can get really tedious
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>>164738029
I've yet to fully playthrough the entire game yet, I'm still in the early stages around the Slug village.

You're better off asking someone else here.
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>>164738029
It's okay I guess. It has >le deep plot but honestly it's like an even more convoluted version of Nasuverse. Fun for a spin, maybe.
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>>164734032
>>164735079
>Implying playing the Mary Sue trope to its limits isn't just as silly or ironic.
>wanting less monstergirls in the world

>>164736663
I had the same exact thoughts at first but its the game that actually made me realize you can make something that's not complete garbage in rpgmaker. Torotoro has put a lot of love in the game and Dargoth is cranking away at getting the game translated. The game is a huge love letter to fans what with the entire concept of paradox being able to make pretty much anything canon and acting out your own waifu fantasies. There is also plenty of interactions with the simple monstergirls along with easter eggs and the series standard humor, diverging paths and tons content for what you'd expect from some niche porn rpgmaker game. There is more text in part 1 than the entirety of the original trilogy to put it into perspective.

>>164737473
It's not technically a direct sequel, but it has characters that would appear after the ending making appearances in the game as well as characters who make direct references to the original timeline/vn. It is a prequel/sequel/ spinoff, hence the title "Paradox" so it should be played after the original.
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>>164738218
>Implying playing the Mary Sue trope to its limits isn't just as silly or ironic
Who's the Mary Sue supposed to be? Alice?
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>>164737473
If you liked the characters and story of the the vn you will like Paradox. Of course we have a time-travel multiverse plot so things are going to get stupid and we also only have one part very recently translated to go on, but based on Torotoro's track record we can assume it'll at least be satisfying.
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>>164738586
Nero and Neris are nigh invincible godlike beings with angel, monster and human blood in them who also save the day without a hitch and still be home in time for dinner. However Nero's design is pretty funny.
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>>164738898
That has nothing to do with being a Mary Sue though. Nero's design is a parody.
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>>164738898
>>164739245
He looks fine to me
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>>164598217
So. Get this.

There's this game

A game, right

A game about MONSTER GIRLS.

But the best girl

Best girl

But the best girl is a HUMAN SLUT.

Why does this happen to me
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>>164739632
>the best girl is Sara
Not even fucking close.
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>>164739818
Sexy, rich, good species... there's a lot going in her favor for such a claim.
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>>164739818
i can't help it

i dont even like sluts

help
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>>164739950
>sexy
To be honest not really no, not any more than most other humans (which there are a ton of now that Paradox is out)

>rich
>implying this is any advantage when she's a colossal bitch and megaslut
Poorfags should get the fuck out.
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>>164740108
I disagree, I like epee's style.

>colossal bitch
What?

>megaslut
That wasn't her fault.
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>>164740297
I just wish epee had more art in the games.
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>>164740297
>colossal bitch
She grates on my nerves real fucking bad during the pyramid thing.

>that wasn't her fault
She blows you for no apparent reason while still being horny for granberia in the original trilogy.
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>>164739632
>Sara
>human
Just a matter of before she succubizes again. Bad oversight on TTR's part not to give her succubus as a subrace.

I just want Mecha Pope is get a Cyborg race
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>>164741829
When does Marie become useful?
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>>164742121
When you feed her an assload of seeds, because she's just a normal human who doesn't even have the battle fucker class when you finally get her.
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>>164722000
there actually are desu

but im not linking them
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>>164655170
She fought bravely ;__;
I didn't want to hurt her
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>>164745831
Crab girl is evil, she's a disgusting monster.
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>>164747391
Don't lie to me
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>>164732145
Easy now, I said I jumped the gun and realized my mistake. I didn't recall every single thing the aide said.
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Am I missing something or are these not unlockable yet?
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>>164748219
Its a scene with tari you get at the campfire when you chose all pro-her anti-jilly choices
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>>164748283
Is it this one? Or do I have to go from start and pick anti-jelly all the way through?
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>>164748452
Thats not it. Yes you have to restart. In that play through it replaces the jilly camp scene so its relatively early.,
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>>164748283
>>164748452
Never mind, found it now, got thrown out of the tent
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>>164748219
woah shit can i have a link to the game
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>>164747794
I'm not lying to you anon, you should listen to Ilias. All monsters are evil incarnate.
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>>164749238
Ilias says not to have intercourse with monsters, she says nothing about being bathed by them
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>>164749753
You gave semen to an evil monster.
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>>164749983
Perhaps the same could be said of all married men.
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>>164750082
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar
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>>164738898
All monsters have human blood in them. Do monsters have even any resemblance to their fathers?
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>>164750204
What is a man? A miserable little pile of semen. But enough talk. Have at you!
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>>164753437
Her h scene was really creepy, she basically eats Luka and by the time her cape encloses them it mentions you can hear crunching noices from within, meaning she not only drains him of blood and semen she eats his flesh,too. Yikes. Leave it to this game to make something obviously sexy as vampires to turn it into disgusting vore and nightmare fuel
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>>164463279
Alright ye motherfucker listen here,
I have NO problem with alt story line, NO problem with parallel universes, my problem is that whenever anyone fucking does an alt story line or parallel universe they drag parallel universes into the plot.
I'd be more than fucking happy to see other possible sequences of events and the ramifications thereof explored, but that doesn't mean that the fact that there are multiple stories needs to be apparent to anyone in them.
Fuck, look at portal and portal 2, for a more discrete example. They're clearly two different universes, or, at least, one universe being told as a story by 2 different people.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN PARALLEL UNIVERSES NEED TO IN ANY WAY BE INVOLVED IN THE STORY.
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>>164749238
delet pisslias
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ITS OUT
ITS OUT
ITS OUT

>http://g.e-hentai.org/g/1013837/1a4387a395/
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>>164722000
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/247303/1c5cad0a7d/

Best ntr, just for you
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>>164758426
(Not Safe For /pol/)
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>>164697890
>TFW only just realized how much they look like the cowtits loli succubus
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>>164758426
Oh man the story is really sad. But sweet how the they didnt gave up and loved eachother till the end
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So shit, I've been going through the last couple threads and am trying to wrap my head around all the links being posted.
I'm seeing a bunch to DLsite for official looking MGQ stuff, but by different users to torotoro.
Are these just the individual artists? Pure fanwork?
And how goes the OVA? Everyone's saying "ID'Z OUT !!1!" but there's hardly a mega link in sight. Is everyone actually just buying it?
Also, what are all the animated releases so far? I'm hearing talk of an OVA, and something possibly unrelated?
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I thought all the paradox main story shit was translated? I get to Monte Carlo and half the NPCs are still speaking moonrunes and the event when entering the city was also in JP
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>>164758426
This is why people burned that guy who did a rem NTR doujinshi's house down and killed his cats.

At least this story has a fantastic end, and isn't just gratuitous NTR.
Probably be one of my favorite doujinshi's from now on.
>>164761732
Lolnope, translator got to a fucked up scene then ragequit.
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>>164761157
It's unofficial and it's not out yet
>>164761732
Monte Carlo is not part of the main questline iirc
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>>164757007
boy you sure gave him what for

THREE
DAYS
LATER
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>>164762202
What? I've been busy in /hbg/
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>>164716707
Wait, since when is timeloop a standard part of mothgirl quirks?
She does give a rather, well, childhood type monster vibe (as in what monster meant to you before you started fapping to them)
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>>164762106
Isn't there a trailer or something?
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>>164763003
yeah, see >>164542005
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>>164762841
>before you started fapping to them
man, if only young me knew
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>>164763190
Ah, thanks.
>>164763373
BAKA!
Also I'm confused.
First visit as kid, second as kid+10, at this point does he jump back to kid, so third visit is kid+10 again, or is he kid+30 at that point?
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>>164762106
>>164762007
The spreadsheet says Monte Carlo is translated but for me it's not, even though I'm patched. Did I fuck up by visiting Monte Carlo before I patched?

Do I need to start over?
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>>164763939
Nah, it's not really important. If you care about it so much you can read it in ng+ or load an old save
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How do I tell what's the best job for someone in Paradox? Is there any strategy to making a good party?
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>>164741829
>>Just a matter of before she succubizes again. Bad oversight on TTR's part not to give her succubus as a subrace.
It'll take time. At least that's what Sphinx says if you talk to her while Sara's in the party.
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>>164761732
>>164762007
>>164762106
You sure you're using the latest patch? They're all speaking English on my end.
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>>164764657
Not really, go with who you want. Although I would keep people who can heal, unlock, steal, and talk in your party.
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Do skimpy clothes have any hidden bonus? What's the point?
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>>164764657
>How do I tell what's the best job for someone in Paradox? Is there any strategy to making a good party?
Whatever you want, but if you're not autistic like me by insisting on an all loli party, basic rule of thumb is to pay attention to a race's innate skills. This is discussed in the temple basement but try pairing a job with what a race can already do. For example, mermaids can always sing and use white magic. Ergo, Priest and Minstrel are handy by the time they mastered those (or come close), they'll have a wider selection of skills to choose from when they switch to a job that normally doesn't let you use them.

But that's just for fighting. There's also traits and passive abilities to take into account. Also, as a general rule of thumb, races dictate what armor they can wear while jobs control what weapons they can wield.

In other news, Automata Girl and the Mud Golem Girl are set to be found in some kind of fort near Grangold. Ant Girls first show up in the ruins of Lima Village (according to a diplomat at Sabasa Castle every male got captured while every female, elder, and child were killed outright).
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>>164761732
I know what you're talking about. You're using an outdated patch.
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>>164762841
>what monster meant to you before you started fapping to them
Oh geez, now I'm getting some childhood flashbacks. Who knew you could overcome fear through dick? Little me would be shocked by my fetishes (although tbf, the seeds were always there).
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>>164766543
Different stats than other armor types.

The best obtainable armor in part 1 (Archangel Bra) is skimpy, and is SO much better than everything else obtainable that it's a pretty big handicap to not be able to equip it.
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>>164769991
Looks like Miku.
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>>164769991
Not bad for a custom job. I'd totally pay for one.
>>164770306
That is because it uses parts from at least one of the several hundreds of Miku nendos that have been produced over the years.
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>>164769991
coooooool
where is this from? did you make it
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What's the best job for Alice in Paradox? I have her as a Magisword right now and boy is it shit
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>>164770393
Just a pic I saved from some anon here however long ago.

>>164770710
Due to her race variety, you're probably going to take her through basically everything since she can take on basically all roles easier than most.
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>>164771445
i want mini shikibus in my room
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>>164768843
>>The best obtainable armor in part 1 (Archangel Bra) is skimpy, and is SO much better than everything else obtainable that it's a pretty big handicap to not be able to equip it.
Which means that Slimes, Beasts, and Ghosts are shit out of luck.
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Lime is a cutie
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Does Quest Failed have a torrent?
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>>164768843
Meh, unless you cheat engine or grind the ever living fuck out of the game, you're not going to get enough Archangel's bras to equip your whole party. It would probably be faster just to do LoC and get armor from there.
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>>164773121
Pretty much. Gaia Robe is already but the lack of Agility hurts against random enemies high in the labyrinth.

>>164775248
I did all of the above. I even got all the milk and all the panties.
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>tfw too many qts in Paradox but not enough party slots
I have so many girls I want to use but at the same time I feel like I can't just drop people like Promestein out of my party because they have so much flavor text injected into NPC dialogue

Same with the Bandit Lolis of which I'm currently using two of

Maybe it's time to tell Sonya to fuck off?
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>>164777219

Sonya sucks and she has dialogue even if she's not in your party. No reason to have her there.
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>>164777710
The human race in general is pretty shit
Sonya left my party a long time ago when I got Remi
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>>164777710
>Sonya sucks
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>>164777710
Really? I know that she interjects for the important cutscenes even if she's not in the party but I'm fairly certain she also adds some other dialogue only if you have her in the party (ex: when talking with non-important NPCs).

>>164777219
Yeah, I know. The biggest problem for me is probably going to be choosing Illias or Alice. The 6 Ancestors look WAY better than 3 (new) seraphs + 7 archangels (with the exception of Michaela, Lucifina, and maybe Eden just for bullying). Guess I'll probably have to go Illias -> Alice -> Illlias when part 2 or 3 (whichever part where you can start recruiting them) come out.
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do panties do anything at all or are they just joke items?
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>>164779120
Joke item.

>>164778727
Is there any concrete info on any of that?
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>>164779237
>Is there any concrete info on any of that?

Nope, but I would say it's a reasonable guess that you can only recruit the 4 Knights + 6 Ancestors + 3 Succubi on Alice Route and the 3 Seraphs + 7 Archangels on Illias Route. Hell, Gnosis even implied that when she talks to Luka if you're in the Illias route.
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So how would Paradox!Elder Succubus's dick-sucking belly button work on women?
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>>164780287
bellybutton to pussy action
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>>164779996
>Hell, Gnosis even implied that when she talks to Luka if you're in the Illias route.
Routes are also implied by Astaroth if you picked Alice. Might explain why final form Ilias is nowhere near the last entry in the enemy script. Encounters on the Alice route (if there is one) are lower down the line.
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>>164780287
How does cowgirl work on women?
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>>164778727
Wouldn't the 6 ancestors join Alice, not Illias?
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>tfw want to use Miranda, Papi, Vanilla, Alice, Promestein, Chrome, Nanabi, Eva, Lamp Genie, and Saki all at the same time in part 1
>Harpy Queen, 4 Knights and others aren't even recruitable yet
How will I ever find room
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>>164783189
And what could you possibly want all those third-rate monsters for?
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>>164775152
i would also like to know this
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>>164775152
>>164784185
Probably, but most of us spent the 12 bucks to support Frost since he's making more of it. Gonna have to find it yourselves.
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>>164778727
>Really? I know that she interjects for the important cutscenes even if she's not in the party but I'm fairly certain she also adds some other dialogue only if you have her in the party (ex: when talking with non-important NPCs).

Well, I tossed Sonya out as soon as possible and I remember her having dialogue for insignificant messages in the towns.so I think so
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I realize I'm several years late asking about the original trilogy but maybe someone will know. I downloaded the torrent with the three prepatched games and then pasted "MGQ_3.03-9" from the OP pastebin over it. The game itself seems to run fine but when I try to load custom scenarios it immediately crashes. Any ideas where I fucked up?
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>>164780287
Belly button vore
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>>164783778
>Miranda
>Nanabi
>Third rate
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Crab girl can hold her own against an army of angels.

Please nerf.
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How good is a team of all the Loli bandits


also do you think we'll be able to get their teenage versions in part two?
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>>164793136
Maybe not in part 2 but we'll definitely get them at some point. They already have place holder spots in the game's actor listing and Vampy's teenage over world sprite is already in the game.
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>>164793080
No need to nerf
That's normal for someone who level grinds in the same area 24/7 for several months.
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>>164796292
I want Crab to nerf me.
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>>164797783
>crabgirl with level drain
Make it happen
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>>164542005
there, I saved Angel Halo's honor (a little bit)
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>>164798431
That's some good shit senpai.
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scariest monster girl?
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>>164801001
The one that wants to marry you.
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>>164801001
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>>164794247
Who will be in part 2 then? Harpy Queen? 4 Knights?

What about the Succubus sisters
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>>164782863
Yeah, so that's why I'm thinking about going Illias -> Alice -> Illias. So I can start MGQ:Paradox 3 on an Illias storyline with as little playthroughs as possible.

Playing either route gives away a fair bit of plot and makes replaying less interesting than the first playthrough. As such, I'm also going with Illias first just to experience the plot in its full glory, before grabbing the QT 6 Ancestors in the Alice route.
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>>164801876
I gotta assume all of the above.
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>>164794247
>Vampy's teenage over world sprite is already in the game.
Where?!
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>>164802639
Aren't the Succubus sisters stronger than the 4 Knights? They seemed like end game boss tier not disc two recruit, especially since they're new additions to Paradox and had the entire Luddite Village shit to paint them in an awful light
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>>164803223
>end game boss tier
How?
All the Ancestors, Archangels, Zombie Doll Alices, and I'm sure stronger Apoptosis are considerably above them.

I expect to see Lilith around Grand Noah in Alma's stead (since the game keeps dodging letting us actually see those 4), before encountering them as a group in Succubus Village, and possibly recruiting them then.
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>>164803754
There's already too much to recruit in Succubus village between all the minor succubi, potential new succubi mob characters, the mayor and the witch and the two Heinrich beat.

I don't see them letting you get them that early into part 2 if at all in part 2

We haven't even see any of them fight seriously yet
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>>164804149
Well they can't be held off too much longer, because we'll be running out of most enemies who aren't Queen/HK level by the time we finish the Sentora continent.

And I doubt they're stronger than the fan favorite 4 HKs.
>And then Alma Elma will be revealed to also know sex aura but simply not ever use it because it bores her

I don't know how much of a handicap Astaroth put on herself when fighting in part 1, but Paradox Luka is growing in power FAR faster than the original.
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>>164804623
>And then Alma Elma will be revealed to also know sex aura but simply not ever use it because it bores her
Not like anyone even knows she can use Kung fu
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>>164801264
so all of MGE's monster girls
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That's like a sex aura
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>>164804623
They'll probably be Nanabi

Alma will fuck them up and then you'll have to fight them later in an optional battle to recruit them
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>>164805540
i wouldnt want to be her friend
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>>164805494
More like just Shellfish girl.
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>>164805850
Why not? She's cute, seems smart enough.
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>>164806256
shes very rude and would probably do things without my permission
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>>164789126
I think I like this answer best.
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>>164804623
>Paradox Luka is growing in power FAR faster than the original.

What makes you say that? If you discount his companions as well as his extra skills he gets from the classes, he seems to be around the same level of power if you compare at similar timelines (ex: when fighting the spirits, when doing stuff like bandits, Poseidon's bell, etc.). The only edge I can see is the fact that Paradox Luka has access to magic.
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>>164806694
Him awakening his angel power earlier
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>>164806801
And probably in an environment where it doesn't threaten to consume him.
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>>164806801
Huh, oh yeah, he does get that doesn't he? Good catch.


And on a completely unrelated note, does anybody have any guesses on why these 2 dudes are important? I'm still kinda confused as to why they actually have portraits.
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>>164807480
aren't they NPCs from the church that teach you about jobs
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Who's the strongest power level character you can recruit in part 1? Nanabi?
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>>164809105
Yeah, I think so.

Also, just found out that there are some non-barrel/drawer and non-sparkling items that proc certain dialogues when you interact with them. Does anybody have any other examples besides the teddy bear in Sonya's room?
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does Sonya still show up in campfire scenes if you don't have her in the active party
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post very cute monster girls
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>>164809105
Canon-wise, probably Nanabi, yeah.
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>>164810612
You.
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>>164757007
Yeah except the entire idea that there's more than one timeline, and only one 'correct' timeline, is actually essential to the plot and not just there for the sake of it.
>replying to a post 3 days late from the last thread
Impressive.
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how do i convince someone that monster girls are top teir women
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>>164809586
Black Alice did nothing wrong.
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>>164807480
Those portraits are generic RPGmaker ones
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Ideas for new classes in part 2?

>Succubus dark knight
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>>164813440
King of Kings.
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>>164783189
>>164783778
Hax that give you every monsters dialog even if they're not in your party when?
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>>164812970
Yeah, but point still stands why those two get portraits while 99% of all other random NPCs don't.
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>>164812580
Nigga I just scrolling through tabs.
Saying "It's essential that the plot is about parallel universes BECAUSE the plot is about parallel universes" is NOT an argument.
As I said before, maybe this is the one time in history a writer pulls it off properly. Fan fucking tastic, that doesn't mean it isn't a hack of a literary device.
>>164812657
Make them play through the original trilogy and they'll soon realize that a human girl really isn't good enough.
For me the thought of pussy alone now just seems fucking bland. It's not about the fact that they're monsters, it's about all their other sex accessories.
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>>164815391
but they said they wont play it because they dont like monster girls
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>>164801876
>>164802639
>>Who will be in part 2 then? Harpy Queen? 4 Knights?
I'm within the process of listing all of the possible monsters to appear in part 2. For now, I'll throw a few bones and say that Alma Elma, Granberia, and Tamamo are all encountered exactly where you'd expect them in the original part 2. The Coliseum (after Dullahan and Cerberus), Gold Volcano (after Salamander) and the Monster Lord's Castle (after Yao and before Alice the 15th).

Strangely, there's another encounter set in the Harpy Tower but no idea who it is. Unless you have to fight the Harpy Queen again but at her full power.
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>>164815391
>is NOT an argument
It is an argument because it wasn't shoved in for no reason just for the appeal factor, as you seem to be insinuating.

>that doesn't mean it isn't a hack of a literary device
Do you even know what 'hack' means when applied to writing? A literary device cannot be a 'hack'. Whether or not a writer is a 'hack' depends on whether or not he uses all his literary devices correctly. The Portrait of Dorian Gray, or the Count of Monte Cristo, or whatever, are full of generic literary devices but you would hardly call the authors hacks.
Even the Mary Sue archetype isn't a hack archetype because it can and has been pulled off well. Having a heroine get raped is also not a hack of a literary device, since it can be used to enhance to plotline and not create cheap drama or illogical appeal.
Read a motherfucking book and get over your dumb ass self.
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>>164813440
cute
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>>164813440
Walking Dessert.
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>>164815467
Ever seen "Saw"?
>>164816810
>just for the appeal factor
I never said or implied this, it'd not appealing, it's just a fucking lazy way to write something.
Look at all the official alt universe stories that games/shows/films have done. You'll notice that the ones that don't mention parallel universes, whilst rarer, are usually good.
The ones that do bring in parallel universes, however, are usually always shit.
Not all of them, no, but most of them.
Now, is this because bringing that into a otherwise single universe story makes everything feel displaced, or is it because it's usually shit writes who do it, the better writers able to hold their own, make an alt universe story, but not be tempted to bring that scifi shit into it?
(Hint: It's usually a mix)
There was SO FUCKING MUCH they could have explored in a setting with pre-luka peace, so many other possibilities, even something like an angel going fucking rouge and sealing Alice and illias or something, there where more than enough who wanted to.
I know that's a shit example, but that's me thinking here for 10 seconds for a better idea.
But no, the story just says "Fuck it, not even worth bothering, let' just jump the shark (although NOT doing it for popularity sake) and bring in parallel universes.
>A literary device cannot be a 'hack'.
Forgive me for using one of "hack"s many meaning, oh grammar Nazi so proud.
>A literary device cannot be a 'hack'.
I never called the author a hack, I called a cheap overused literary device a hack.
Let's look at the prime definition of hack then:
>cut with rough or heavy blows
Which is what you're doing when you use something like this.
The writer may intend to be delicate, but that's delicately performing surgery on a story that was started by hitting the story with an axe.
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>>164816081
Who are you, where are you getting this info?
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>Read a motherfucking book
I've read too many fucking books that pulled this or similar shit, eventually you grow impatient of it and end up wishing you could stop the author mid way through production, shake the shit out of them and yell in their face "YOU'RE BETTER THAN THIS! UNLESS YOU ALREADY HAVE A SUPER CLEVER IDEA AS TO HOW TO PULL THIS OFF, FUCKING STOP AND EITHER WORK ONE OUT BEFORE YOU GO ON, OR STOP USING CHEAP SHIT IN YOUR WRITING AND COME UP WITH A GOOD IDEA YOURSELF! I KNOW YOU FUCKING HAVE IT IN YOU"

It's such a shame that the entirety of paradox is already out and there's no possible way any such discourse could ever get through to the author. Oh wait.
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>>164818078
>mad
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>>164817881
see
>>164682053
>>164692808
>>164692980
>>164693132

Long story short, I'm looking at stuff coded in advance to pinpoint whatever Torotoro has in store. Based on when part 1 ended I intend to stop right where I think part 2 will end. By the way, if I'm reading the script right there might be another Ilias Temple on that snow continent.

And Tamamo.
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>>164818078
Meant 4 >>164816810
>>164818160
So mad I fucked up the reply
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>>164817863
what is your point about saw?
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>>164818363
If they don't wanna play the game, MAKE THEM play the game!
Also, I dunno, kill them if they die >30 times in the game.
Or use >10 evaluations.
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>>164818462
but killing people is mean
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>>164817863
>>164818078
Holy captain autism
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>>164818363
Literally
>would you like to play a game
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>>164817863
>oh grammar nazi so proud
>use a word incorrectly
>get called out for it
>G-GRAMMAR NAZI

>Let's look at the prime definition of hack then:
Not applicable to tropes and archetypes, and at any rate, the primary definition is that of a verb. A 'hack writer' is someone who is paid to pump out sensational but low-quality writing or someone who is paid by the number of words they produce. By the Oxford English Dictionary
>Hack(2) - Noun
>1 - A writer or journalist producing dull, unoriginal work
>1.1 - A person who does dull routine work.
As it were, the word Hack in this case doesn't even evolve from the same line as the verb.

>The writer may intend to be delicate, but that's delicately performing surgery on a story that was started by hitting the story with an axe.
Yeah okay, that's why the Lord of the Rings usage of the Quest to Destroy Evil plotline is 'hacked' and why Great Expectations using like sixty different generic archetypes is a 'hack' piece of writing or why Heart of Darkness going for goreporn to show brutality is it being a 'hack' right?
Tropes, devices, and archetypes are never good or bad; it comes down to how they are used. That you'd dismiss something solely for using a device you have a personal grudge against tells me you have the mental age of a middle schooler.

>>164818318
>>164818078
How can you possibly be this fucking angry? To judge a plot solely by its tropes (in fact, not even, but merely a single device) is the hallmark of someone who's either not read enough or too stupid to put his preconcieved notions of 'good devices' and 'bad devices' aside and actually read, then decide to drop it when you realize the plot is actually shit. In fact I'd also argue that you're retarded to expect a moving plot from a goddamn eroge; MGQ the original hardly had a moving plot, merely a good one - in the context of being porn. If a Sasha Grey AV had a Big Bang Theory tier plot, it'd still be called 'amazing for porn'.

Basically, kill yourself.
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>>164819152
I can't be the only one here who's just in it for the plot
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>>164819597
Your ability to actually analyze the plot is beyond mediocre, as the original MGQ was barely on the level of most generic shonen stories.
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i dunno about you guys, but i like the part in the story where the monster girl rapes the little boy. That's pretty hot
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>>164819597
You're not the only one, however your outlook on the inclusion of parallel universes centered around the plot being somehow inherently bad or used incorrectly is nitpicking at best and utter stupidity at worst.
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>>164819862
>It's an anon uses the generic shonen plot comparison episode
What is your idea of a good plot line?
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>>164819568
>>use a word incorrectly
>>get called out for it
>Words have one meaning
>Not applicable to tropes and archetypes
>You can't use words when I don't like them
See:
>1 - A writer or journalist producing dull, unoriginal work
>1.1 - A person who does dull routine work.
Both are derived from the prime meaning of hack, to hack at something, hackwork ect.
So, you've refuted yourself.
OF COURSE I COULDN'T MEAN HACK LIKE YOU SAY SO I HAD TO BE USING ANOTHER MEANING.
>Yeah okay, that's why the Lord of the Rings usag
Still not listening? For every example you give there are a thousand "Eye of argon" tier shipwrecks that fucked everything up.
You are saying "Look at these select examples of good writing that played with tropes", I am saying "Don't hit your knee with a fucking mallet unless you have a plan out of it"
>is a 'hack' piece of writing
Motherfucker I never once called the author a hack, I never once called the story a hack, you seem to think that because I used the common non literary definition of a word to describe something literary that that instantly changes the meaning of the word to something else that doesn't make sense in context and therefore I must have been talking about something else.
>Does the in setting meaning make sense
>No
>Does the general meaning make sense
>Yes
Ergo, he must have meant the first one yet been talking about something else. I don't care if he clarifies this, he meant what I thought he meant so I can use my argument.
>That you'd dismiss something solely for using a de...
I'm not dismissing it, I'm criticizing it. I'm criticizing it like I criticize all that I like, in hopes that it improves.
>LE TROPES ARE NEVER GOOD OR BAD MAYMAY
But they can be fucking overused, and when 80%+ of alt story lines have to drag this shit in because "HUUR IT'S AN ALT UNIVERSE SO WE MUST MAKE THE STORY ABOUT IT BEING SET IN AN ALT UNIVERSE" then MAYBE it's fucking time to sit down and have a talk about this shit before more people do it.
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>>164820029
I personally liked making dinner as Alice.
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>>164820616
I listed some of the books I think have good plot lines.

>>164821625
>Both are derived from the prime meaning of hack, to hack at something, hackwork ect.
It's actually derived from the word 'hackney', a type of horse. Good job outing yourself as an idiot.

>Still not listening? For every example you give there are a thousand "Eye of argon" tier shipwrecks that fucked everything up.
So wait, that means LotR is shit right because it used a device that is often used incorrectly? The sheer amount of fanfiction and forgotten works makes it obvious that for any given archetype, trope, device, etc. that you so choose, as long as it isn't incredibly obscure or difficult to use at all, there will be far more examples of 'don't do this' than there will be examples of 'this was used well'.

>Motherfucker I never once called the author a hack, I never once called the story a hack, you seem to think that because I used the common non literary definition of a word to describe something literary that that instantly changes the meaning of the word to something else that doesn't make sense in context and therefore I must have been talking about something else.
>I'm going to use the non-literary 'hack' to describe literature then get surprised when people presume the definition of 'hack' that actually does go together with literature
Are you high on acid? You can't apply your definition of hack to literature unless you're literally hacking apart a book. There is a specific definition of hack in relation to literature.
>does the in setting meaning make sense
Yeah, it does; you can obviously call an author a hack.
>does the general meaning make sense
No; you cannot say a set of words is "a cut with rough or heavy blows", that doesn't make sense.

>But they can be fucking overused
And that's wholly immaterial when discussing the merit of its usage; the 'jealous woman' archetype dates back to the Epic of Gilgamesh yet doesn't automatically ruin a story. Get over yourself.
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>>164819568
>To judge a plot solely by its tropes
You're thick, aren't you?
I literally never once did this. You assumed I did by some mental gymnastic, because I can't possibly LIKE something but still find faults in it. not even fucking faults, just something lazy the writer did
Now, if you claim that there are no bad tropes, do please, point me to JUST ONE EXAMPLE, just one, of someone who, when telling an alt story line, dragged in parallel universes, and did it well.
All I'm after is one.
Otherwise, we're betting that Torotoro is going to be the J. R. R. Tolkien of this specific trope.
And I fucking hope he is, I sincerely hope they manage to pull this off properly, but when no-one else has done so, then can you see why I have my fears?
>>164819862
I haven't fucking tried jesus christ you're a baka, I just called it out for not taking the chance to explore itself. Fuck.
>>164820083
I NEVER said it makes the plot inherently bad, it's what the author does with it that makes the plot good/bad.
I just wish people would stop throwing away potentially unique, interesting plots to base shit around this trope.
I feel it's lazy because it means the author hardly has to spend much time pondering how an alt story line would be different, instead they just make a few major chances and sprinkle fluff around when convenient.
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>>164757007
That's what bothers me about "man in the high castle".
It's an alternate history where Nazi Germany and Japan win ww2, but instead of being some alternate cold war thriller, it's about collecting magical parallel timeline tapes to find "the good future" or something.
The fuck.
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>>164816081
I doubt the Knights will join after your first encounter with them

especially since some people will have Illias and not Alice
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>But they can be fucking overused, and when 80%+ of alt story lines have to drag this shit in because "HUUR IT'S AN ALT UNIVERSE SO WE MUST MAKE THE STORY ABOUT IT BEING SET IN AN ALT UNIVERSE" then MAYBE it's fucking time to sit down and have a talk about this shit before more people do it.

Your're like a first year english major thinking he is now a wise and experienced literary analyst.

>hurrdurr cliches are always bad just innovate and make new shit its so fucking easy people will obviously like it
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>>164822381
Probably, but I'm reading from the enemy script, not the actor script. Hell, the latter only lists part 1 party members. Also, you fight Tamamo and Alma Elma twice, the latter being at the Sealed Sinner's Prison and Erubetie is first fought at some cave in or leading to Hellgondo.
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>>164822371
>Now, if you claim that there are no bad tropes, do please, point me to JUST ONE EXAMPLE, just one, of someone who, when telling an alt story line, dragged in parallel universes, and did it well.
That doesn't matter now does it? I don't generally read parallel universe things because they don't usually overlap with my tastes. The entire parallel universe gimmick isn't even that commonly used.
That being said: Stein;s Gate isn't that bad, off the top of my head. It's even a VN.
What does matter is that you have a personal grudge against the Parallel universe device and scream bloody murder solely due to its inclusion.
Notice as well that for all his 'laziness', the entire fucking story is about the disruption of timelines - thus, take away the parallel universes, you take away the entire plot.
You have no ability to judge the plot for its own merit and think that you can analyze the inclusion of tropes, devices, and archetypes in isolation when in fact their merit and their strengths or weaknesses are drastically affected, often even entirely determined, by how they're being used.

>>164822372
Nazis are ebil.
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>>164822371
>I just wish people would stop throwing away potentially unique, interesting plots to base shit around this trope.
Why don't you write it then desu me laddio cuz I like it, we get to see ancient powerhouses show up and all sorts of what could've been fuckery
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>>164822258
>It's actually derived from the word 'hackney
Okay, so now there's an even bigger separation between the word I used and the meaning you read.
>So wait, that means LotR is shit right because it used a device that is often used incorrectly?
I
NEVER
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SAID
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WAS
SHIT BECAUSE
OF
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DEVICE!
I
SAID
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look, know what, if you haven't got that by now there's no hope.
>You can't apply your definition of hack to literature unless you're literally hacking apart a book
You've literally gone and said it, I can't use a word to describe something. That's just not allowed.
There is a specific definition of hack in relation to literature.
>The hack writer hacked down a tree so he could hack out a hack of a book using hack plot devices
NOPE, NOT ALLOWED, THAT SENTENCE IS NOT PERMITTED, VARIABLE CANNOT BE ASSIGNED TWO MEANING IN THE SAME STRING
You're not a gramma nazi, you're a faulty compiler set to pedantic.
>Yeah, it does; you can obviously call an author a hack.
I. WASN'T. CALLING. THE. AUTHOR. A. HACK.
I was calling a plot device a hack. The specialized definition, according to you, doesn't work there
>Not applicable to tropes and archetypes
So you, rather than falling back to generalized meaning, assume I'm calling the author a hack. And, no matter what I say, you firmly believe I still, or ever thought, the author was a hack.
>No; you cannot say a set of words is
The plot device isn't a set of words, it is a concept.
You can have finer concepts, and you can have bulky, blunt concepts. This is the latter.
Rather than using a fine concept to solve problems, the author hacks at them with blunt and heavy blows, using the device.
>And that's wholly immaterial when discussing the merit of its usage
The only times I've brought up the merit of the usage I have been COMPLEMENTING the story for so far doing a better job than most, yet even those that start off good tend to get their head stuck up their ass near the end, which is something we're yet to see
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Out of curiosity, but is there any way to view the past dialogue/bring up dialogue box where the old dialogue is listed in MGQ:Paradox? Also, is there anyway to minimize the textbox?
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Wait, why was is this supposed to be bad? Isn't delivering holy water a good thing?
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>>164824139
>NOPE, NOT ALLOWED, THAT SENTENCE IS NOT PERMITTED, VARIABLE CANNOT BE ASSIGNED TWO MEANING IN THE SAME STRING
Yeah except you're attempting to apply the actual, physical damage version of 'hack' to a non-physical entity, i.e. a literary device...
Are you actually retarded?

>Okay, so now there's an even bigger separation between the word I used and the meaning you read.
Wrong; the concept of a literary hack is clean and away simply unrelated to the verb form. The word you used is the one based off 'hackney' because the one based off the action doesn't apply to literary devices. To make a comparison, a Fruit Punch doesn't literally mean an pineapple punched something, and if you attempted to use the term as if a pineapple punched something you'd be retarded, and misunderstood.

>You've literally gone and said it, I can't use a word to describe something. That's just not allowed.
Obviously? It doesn't apply. It's like describing the wingspan of a microwave oven.

>I was calling a plot device a hack
I said in the very first post you cannot do that. Whether you use the literary definition or the general physical definition, neither of them apply well to a plot device.

>So you, rather than falling back to generalized meaning, assume I'm calling the author a hack.
Because you can't fall back to the generalized meaning just like you can't fall back to the generalized meaning of spawning when discussing MMOs.

>You can have finer concepts, and you can have bulky, blunt concepts. This is the latter.
Insofar as the concept is very wide-reaching, of course...but that doesn't mean it can't be used well and has no bearing on 'bluntness' or being heavy handed.

>better job than most
Then you have nothing to even speak about, you can't just pluck the device out of context and talk about it by itself unless you're discussing it in concept. Man in High Castle's usage of it and Stein;s Gate use of it and Fate's use of it are radically different and applied differently.
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>>164824970
It's like delivering water in Al Capone's name

>>164824754
I don't think so on both counts
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>>164822851
Can you really look at this beautiful woman and call her evil?
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>>164822372
THIS A THOUSAND FUCKING TIMES THIS
>>164822396
I AM NOT FUCKING ANALYZING SHIT GET OVER YOURSELF
At least you've brought me up from grade-schooler to first year English major, that's progress, I guess...
>hurrdurr cliches are always bad just innovate and make new shit
No, but Torotoro has demonstrated they're a good enough writer to build a whole universe, is taking that same universe and just playing around with the timeline that fucking hard?
No, it's easier to bring in alt universes and paradoxes, then it doesn't even matter if the alt universes are internally inconsistent! Genius!
>>164822851
>That doesn't matter now does it?
It won't if paradox is good. But when you're 200th in line at the 75th annual bird man volcano jump and everyone before you has been burned to death can you imagine why your fans would be getting worried about you?
Yeah Stein;s Gate is reasonable, but it's not an alt universe version of another story, it is the prime story.
When this shit's been in since day 1, I won't complain. Chances are the author had a good idea, wanted to play with it, and did so.
That is very different to a fantasy world with a creation story having a sequel where parallel universes are brought in out of the blue.
>and scream bloody murder solely due to its inclusion.
I WANTED FUN LOLI ILLIAS SHENANIGANS NOT "EBERY UNIBERSE IS GONNA DIE!!1!!" shit.
Maybe we'll get both, maybe the latter won't be shit, I hope it won't be because it's too late to turn back, but there was more than enough to go on without parallel universes.
>the entire fucking story is about the disruption of timelines
As I said above
>The story HAS to be about parallel universes because they MADE the story about parallel universes, see?
Cont...
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>>164825071
Yeah, but the pope seems oddly unhappy about it even though the priest is technically just supplying holy water like any other merchant. Actually, now that I think about it, how do you get holy water anyways? Do priests make it? Or is it something else. INB4 piss.
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>>164825158
>Yeah Stein;s Gate is reasonable, but it's not an alt universe version of another story, it is the prime story.
Stein;s Gate is the alt universe version of itself, you spend pretty much the entire story in one of the 'wrong' universes.

>At least you've brought me up from grade-schooler to first year English major, that's progress, I guess...
That wasn't me.

>That is very different to a fantasy world with a creation story having a sequel where parallel universes are brought in out of the blue.
Well I see what you mean but Paradox is simply something in the same setting. Torotoro didn't suddenly stuff in an alt-timeline plot in Part 3, then I'd be with you not because of the plot device itself but because of what amounts to an obvious asspull. From the very beginning of what we saw in Paradox, previews, trailers, it was obvious that he was going for something else. That 'something else' happened to be a multiple universes plot. Hell, even the term 'paradox' shows it in a sense.

>I WANTED FUN LOLI ILLIAS SHENANIGANS NOT "EBERY UNIBERSE IS GONNA DIE!!1!!" shit.
That's obviously not what TT was going for since the beginning though. It's pretty much your own fault for getting ahead of yourself and what the author was showing.

>but there was more than enough to go on without parallel universes
Torotoro was never going to make a comfy game about this stuff. From the moment Adramelech, Death, and Lucifina got leaked you probably should've noticed. Now, the whole 'correct universe' gimmick? Think of it this way: TT has a huge waifuboner for Alice.
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>>164825369
It's who he works for that is the problem.
Imagine having holy water be delivered to your local church from a company called antichrist ltd. Or something.
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>>164825786
>antichrist ltd
I'll be honest if I were the church father I'd think it was an ironic name
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>>164542005
It looks better than I thought it would
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>>164822851
If they came up with a fun idea involving parallel universes and decided to make a game that starts as an alt storyline to explore it, then fine. I'm happy. Issue over.
But if they just went "Well we can't exactly do anything else in the main setting, let's fork it and try again", then they started writing and someone went "Hey, we're in a parallel universe, let's make the story about parallel universes!" and worked from there then there is cause for concern.
>You have no ability to judge the plot for its own merit
I HAVE, I DO, AND I THINK FOR ITS MERITS IT'S PRETTY GOOD WITH A NICE COMICAL DECONSTRUCTION OF THE SORT OF CHARACTERS YOU SEE IN THIS SHIT, BUT THESE PLOTS DIE IN THE LAST ACT AND SOME OF THE CHARACTERS DON'T SEEM TO HAVE THE SELF AWARENESS TO DEAL WITH THAT SHIT
There's my fucking analysis of the plot itself, it's good. GOOOOOOOOODDDDDD. It's like a big delicious chocolate cake that just so happens to be shaped like, and have the texture of. a massive shit.
Sure it's just superficial, it doesn't change the flavor, and if you're not willing to eat it because of something silly like that you're probably a bit basic, but you do have to wonder if there's just a little bit of actual shit sprinkled in and, that if there was, that do-one would ever know.
>often even entirely determined, by how they're being used.
There is no arguing this. But it's like cruse control. You still have to steer and, to be honest, a better driver would be managing the accelerator themselves to, and would drive better for it. Perhaps manual/automatic transmission would be a better analogy there?
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>>164825153
>>164825153
your waifu is shit
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>>164826008
>If they came up with a fun idea involving parallel universes and decided to make a game that starts as an alt storyline to explore it, then fine. I'm happy. Issue over.
>Issue over
I agree. There wasn't really an issue to begin with after all, since Torotoro did in fact make the story explicitly about Parallel universes and you find out like ten minutes in when Ilias evidently has memories beyond the current timeline from the original trilogy.

>There's my fucking analysis of the plot itself, it's good. GOOOOOOOOODDDDDD
That's some pretty shit taste. I advise you to read some books.

>There is no arguing this. But it's like cruse control. You still have to steer and, to be honest, a better driver would be managing the accelerator themselves to, and would drive better for it. Perhaps manual/automatic transmission would be a better analogy there?
It's more like riding a horse vs. riding a unicycle vs. riding a motorbike. The mark of a good story is simply using it well. Some are easier to ride than others, some are easier to ride well than others, etc.
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ARRGAHH THIS BITCH WONT LET ME PASS
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>>164825892
Honestly if someone actually named their company that I would purposely move to a very religious neighborhood, and buy from them all the time to scare my neighbors.
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>>164826606
You shall not pass the gelatinous mass.
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>>164826606
How the fuck did that even happen? Anyways, just run back off the bridge and move around a little bit. The slime's RNG movement should make her walk off, eventually.
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What the hell is going on here?

Anyways, I was going to wait until a new thread and/or go further, but fuck it. I'm pretty sure I properly estimated the endpoint of part 2 as far as enemy encounters go.

http://pastebin.com/nXMxuxg3

For simplicity's sake, I decided to translate most of the location names. There's a few I'm not too sure about so I left those alone. Anything with no monster name means there's no profile, which means a brand new monster ( counted about 153 of them). Also, anything with an (alt) at the end means parallel dimension not unlike the ones beyond the first two Tartarus. I'm...not sure what the deal is with the Monster Lord's Castle (based off part 1 there should be Tartarus encounters beforehand) if that's the case unless there's another way to travel between worlds later.
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>>164826606
Give her what she wants.
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>>164823273
I rarely jump into other people works of fiction, and my own stuff (some VN's) play with the concepts directly.
It's fun to do in a game where the player has choices, because you can tell a bunch of stories all in the one game (And fuck with the player about it if you wanna be cheeky)
If I ever release something vast that is just the one narrative line you can be sure that I'll fork it.
Still, MGQ is torotoro's, and it's their job to explore this shit, otherwise it's just fanwank.
(I'd almost say all this parallel universe stuff sets up the opportunities for a third set of games, one that is just a plain alt history, without the parallel universe junk, but at the same time the whole "You can't deviate from the main timeline too much or shit's gon go bad!" thing might actually make this impossible. Shame).
>>164825009
>Are you actually retarded?
So we're not allowed to use words that are by definition physical actions to describe non-physical concepts in an example/analogy/et al.?
I hate throwing the word "Autism" around, but you're a special kind of special.
>because the one based off the action doesn't apply to literary devices
But, anon, you see, I WAS applying it to a literary device!
You can actually apply lots of words to other things, even if they're not inherently related! Amazing, isn't it?
See, I'll do it now: The ephemeral penis, the soggy theory, the majestic peripheral!
Shit doesn't have to have been used before, or even make all that much sense to work. Amazing, huh?
>and if you attempted to use the term as if a pineapple punched something you'd be retarded, and misunderstood.
It's like if I said "after the gang of niggers knocked out a homosexual outside a night club, the judge described it as a 'fruit punch'" and you got all spergy because "You said fruit punch, therefore it had to be referring to a beverage"
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>>164827197
>So we're not allowed to use words that are by definition physical actions to describe non-physical concepts in an example/analogy/et al.?
When there's another definition that applies to the term? Are you going to say that when you say "I got a kick out of fighting him" you expect people to think you mean "I got kicked fighting him"?
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/mggg/ - Literature
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>>164827436
Economics.
History.
Nuclear fission.
Muskets.
Proper dinning.
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>>164778719
Is Luka such a degenerate this game that he would beg his childhood friend and practically sister to suck his dick or is Sonya like Sara where despite being Luka's first human friend in the story she's lewd as hell.
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>>164825009
>It's like describing the wingspan of a microwave oven.
If I did so it would be safe to assume the microwave in fact had wings, whereas you would appear to assume the microwave was, in fact, a plane.
>It's like describing a plot device as a hack.
If I did so it would be safe to assume the plot device was, by some use of the word, a hack, whereas you would appear to assume the hack was, in fact, referring to the author.
>I said in the very first post you cannot do that
DAS ISCH NICH PROPER DOICHLANDISH SPEEECH
>just like you can't fall back to the generalized meaning of spawning when discussing MMOs.
Welcome to the English language, we fucking can and we fucking will.
>but that doesn't mean it can't be used well
You can tweak it carefully, you can apply it carefully, you can work around it carefully, but you cannot change the core concept, otherwise WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
>use of it are radically different and applied differently.
>use of it
>use
>it
Ah, you still think I mean "Parallel universes" in general.
No.
I mean, when, you take an alt story line of a fictional universe, and then, seemingly by default, center the story around parallel universes themselves.
To be fair, Man in the castle does this, but it's not forking a fictional universe, it's alt history of the real one. Fate is thee same to an extent, but in NONE of the examples you listed where the, not even trope, I'm talking about.
That when someone creates an alt story line spin off, that they drag parallel universes into it when they had no place in the original story it was derived from. Man in High Castle was an original work, so it is except. So it Stein;s Gate. Last time I checked, the plot of Illya wasn't about stopping the universe from being destroyed because brown loli's too much of a pervert compared to her other selves in the serious side of the series, it's about lolis raping lolis. (I may be wrong on this one, I haven't watched all that much)
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>>164828263
>If I did so it would be safe to assume the microwave in fact had wings, whereas you would appear to assume the microwave was, in fact, a plane.
In actual fact though, microwaves don't have wings...

>If I did so it would be safe to assume the plot device was, by some use of the word, a hack, whereas you would appear to assume the hack was, in fact, referring to the author.
Yeah but a hack refers to an action, while a plot device is a conceptual noun...

>Welcome to the English language, we fucking can and we fucking will.
If you can use words however the fucking hell you like without any basis in reality then why even use words? Words are meant to convey meaning. You have patently failed at doing so because you have taken the idea of descriptive definitions to its logical extreme and done away with the need for definitions at all. Kill yourself.

>DAS ISCH NICH PROPER DOICHLANDISH SPEEECH
What the fuck is your problem? Calm your shit.

>You can tweak it carefully, you can apply it carefully, you can work around it carefully, but you cannot change the core concept, otherwise WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
Yeah but that's exactly what you take issue with - the core concept.

>I mean, when, you take an alt story line of a fictional universe, and then, seemingly by default, center the story around parallel universes themselves.
Yeah except my point is also that Torotoro has evidently planned to do so from the very beginning, it's not 'stuffed in' where it might not belong, almost as an afterthought. In fact, I'm not familiar with all that many works that even fit your criteria.

>Illya
No uh
Like, Fate/??? literally bases itself in the existence of the Kaliedoscope.
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I have a feeling that in part 2, instead of the cold, genocidal Erubetie, we'll get a kind-hearted and gentle Erubetie that'll gently wrap you up and milk you tenderly while whispering soothing words into your ear.
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>>164828602
>I have a feeling that in part 2, instead of the cold, genocidal Erubetie, we'll get a kind-hearted and gentle Erubetie that'll gently wrap you up and milk you tenderly while whispering soothing words into your ear while she melts you away, making you a part of her forever
Ftfy
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>>164826154
That's not my waifu, THIS is my waifu.
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>>164825718
>Stein;s Gate is the alt universe version of itself
There was never a non parallel universe predecessor. It's not what I'm talking about.
>From the very beginning of what we saw in Paradox, previews, trailers, it was obvious that he was going for something else
Goes back to the inception of the idea.
Was it a great idea so they went with it, or was it a way to have a sequel.
>That's obviously not what TT was going for since the beginning though
Forgive me, but after an "EBERYONE LIVES" or, at least, a "YOU DUN DON'T ACTUALLY KILL ANYONE" plot, where, the few moments where people do die in ways directly involving you they're very well handled and rather impacting, immediately jumping to "AND LITERALLY EVERYONE EVR IS GONNA DIE!!!" seems jarring.
>Torotoro was never going to make a comfy game about this stuff
Wah... :<
Even though the first game was a comfy game about other stuff.
>since Torotoro did in fact make the story explicitly about Parallel
When the game starts that isn't the beginning, it's the end of the creative process.
Talking your story, no matter how small at the time, and going over it and applying parallel universe stuff IS NOT the same as a plot that's created based on an idea about parallel universes.
Alt universe, so make story about parallel universes, vs story idea involving parallel universes, so make it alt universe.
Second one, entirely up the author, first one, author has a handicap.
>That's some pretty shit taste. I advise you to read some books.
Perhaps "GOOOOOOOOODDDDDD" is too strong of a word.
Perhaps "SLIGHTLY ABOVE MEDIOCRITYYYYYYYY" may have been better suited.
>The mark of a good story is simply using it well.
Agreed, but when you have a dedicated fan base of motorcycle enthusiasts you're gonna get some complaints when your magazine switches to "Horse fucking monthly".
>>164826606
Just walk through here lol
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>>164826335
>That's some pretty shit taste. I advise you to read some books.

>Dude read a book lmao
Don't act dumb.
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>>164828786
I approve
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>>164828256
The pseudo-incest is not nearly as offensive as that yellow cum. Truly the most horrid of Xelvy's creations.
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Hey guys! Since we're a literature board now I thought it necessary to provide you all with reading material better suited to our intellect than the silly plot that Monster Girl Quest has. Check it out!

Night
To Kill a Mockingbird
The Great Gatsby
Lord of the Flies
Romeo & Juliet
1984
The Taming of the Shrew
The Odyssey
The Catcher in the Rye

All of these novels and plays have been recommend by high school teachers around the world. No longer will you have to enjoy generic stories with cliches and tropes made by Japanese porn studios. With this list you will now be able to get started on your intellectual journey into literature.
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>>164827339
>When there's another definition that applies to the term?
You yourself have fucking said, time and time again, that in the context the other definition CANNOT apply to the term.
>you expect people to think you mean "I got kicked fighting him"?
No, because the more obvious, suitable meaning makes sense.
You have said, with what I said, it didn't.
>and practically sister
Fuck me that makes this all a hell of a lot lewder now.
10/10 will fap late
>>164828564
>microwaves don't have wings...
If one did would it stop being a microwave?
Plus, there are tones of examples online, there is even a plane called the microwave, which, admittedly, would make you correct in the above hypothetical case I posted,
>whereas you would appear to assume the microwave was, in fact, a plane.
>while a plot device is a conceptual noun
And we can't hack things conceptually?
I believe the entirety of the free software and exploit scene would like to have a word with you.
>You have patently failed at doing so because you have taken the idea of descriptive definitions to its logical extreme
Oh no anon, what I am doing is simply using a word to refer to whichever of the words definition makes most sense in context, because it pisses you off so much.
>What the fuck is your problem? Calm your shit.
That was me, pretending to be you, ranting like a mad hitler, speaking in blinkenlightz, saying "THAT IS NOT PROPER GERMAN SPEECH". Keep up.
>Yeah but that's exactly what you take issue with - the core concept.
Yes, because "Lol it's in an alt universe let's make it about alt universes" is a fundamentally shit idea.
>from the very beginning,
From the early stages of the sequels development. Nowhere in the original game.
>Like, Fate/??? literally bases itself in the existence of the Kaliedoscope.
If stay night mentioned this then it again, live every other example given, it was an alt universe story from the beginning. Not a sequel.
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>he doesn't have a spot in his party permanantly reserved for best girl.
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>>164828602
>Are you fucking kidding me? I'm stuck in this fucking castle and you're the only dick I can get?
>But you chose to come in he
>But I haven't fucking came in here for the last month you purple haired shit

>>164828256
>and practically sister
Fuck me that makes this all a hell of a lot lewder now.
10/10 will fap later
>>164831067
If you hadn't read all of those by the age of 14 you're irredeemable.
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>>164831416
I don't think you understood the point I was making.
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>>164828786
One does not waifu Rachnera.
Rachnera waifus you.
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>>164832124
Give her the tarsus.
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>>164831067
>To Kill a Mockingbird
>Catcher in the Rye
kys
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>>164542005
won't even mind if they skip three games of development straight to dere-dere erubetie
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>>164831754
What? Slime or incest?
Either way I stand by what I said.
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>>164802950
Here next to Adramelk. Her regular sprite is on a different sheet.

>>164807480
>And on a completely unrelated note, does anybody have any guesses on why these 2 dudes are important? I'm still kinda confused as to why they actually have portraits.

It's an RPG Maker joke. That's the default names for those characters in the system whenever you start a new project. The same for all the ones that teach you about jobs in the illias temple, except for the cleric lady who got her name changed because it was actually Alice.
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>>164831067
Are you being satirical?
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>tfw just found out not every monster has those talk scenes during the camps where Alice/Illias teaches you moves
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Wonder what personality Gnomaren has.
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>>164827045
Wow Queen Vampire and Spider Princess so early? Surprised at no Succubus Sara unless they make that a quest
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>>164827045
[:Snow Haven Outskirts, :Snow Shrine], = Angel Soldiers

>Have to wait till almost the end of the second part to get muh titty angels

I guess I should at least be glad I don't have to wait til part 3.
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>it is a "10000000 OHKOs on Chaos girls at 100 affection but they don't join" episode
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>>164829934
>don't act dumb
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>>164833740
This is Gnomaren's personality.
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>>164833740
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>>164836331
It is a bit weird that Gnomaren has a random association with machines/alchemy.

Grandine has this kinda alien/rune deal going on.
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>>164834552
Just fap to cowtits lolibus, they're basically the same lol
How to get the shit kicked out of you if we all actually met up
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>>164838312
Angel Soldiers are much cuter than the Imp trio.
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So what jobs are worth sticking for Luka in Paradox?
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>>164839805
Battlemaster
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>>164839896
Battlerape
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>>164839805
I usually go with a fighting job with Luka. Either Warrior or Apprentice Hero. But recently I've found out that Luka gets max levels in those jobs automatically when he gets his true baptism. So I'm tempted to go with something like Soldier, because debuffing is nice to have and there's no need for sword skills if you have Alice's cursed sword skills, maybe there is if you have Ilias. Apprentice Hero is kinda lame between job levels 4 and 9, more SP is useful, the level 10 skill is good, autorez is nice, the rest is junk.
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>>164840142
Beyond that, Battle Master is the best combat job in Paradox and a solid choice for Luka lategame.
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So, for someone in your party's skills to work (like half encounters or something) do they need to be in your main 8 or can you fuck them off to your castle?
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>>164840978
they need to be in your 8
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>>164840978
They need to be in the main 8. But they can be in the back. You don't to fight with them.
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>>164839805
If you've mastered apprentice hero I suggest you go for warrior. Not only do you get extra abilities for when the plot unlocks the full hero class later on in the game, but you also get access to jobs based on the warrior job.
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>>164841343
>>164841362
Thanks.
I'm curious, rather than an option to reduce encounters, are there any jobs that let you quickwin?
As in "You could smash this nigga, here, just have the XP"
I hate fights but I'm so shit I need dem XP.
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>>164841623
There's no instant win if you're five levels above or anything. The closest you can do is get a party with good offensive skills that can target all enemies and do enough damage to wipe groups out in one round.

The best farming targets are the candle girls in the mountain range to Rostrum. They give good job XP and are weak to fire and holy. They're a real bitch to fight normally though, bring party members that are resistant or immune to fire if you're not overleveled. Papi or Mini are ideal as they're immune to fire and have a fire breath attack.
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>page 10
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>>164778719
>that "blowjob face"


AAARRGGRH WHY DO ARTISTS THINK THIS SHIT IS ATTRACTIVE
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>>164845625
Considering the nightmares in mgq part 3 has. It ain't that bad.
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>>164827998
And population dynamics.
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>>164845871
I'd take another round of Belzeebub over that stupid duckface.
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>>164827998
Mythology too, sometimes.
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>page 10
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>>164845625
i know, right? xelvy sucks (hah)
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>>164848545
>(hah)

How old are you?
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>>164812720
yeah...can't wait until i bash her skull in again
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>>164848623
>lolol xd hehehehe joke of the year
better?
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why do monsters still want to rape luka if he is baptised in paradox
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>>164849661

Don't baptised people still get raped in the original game? They're just not as tasty and are handled worse IIRC. I'd say being baptised lowers the chance of the monster marrying you instead of eating you.
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>>164849661
He isn't actually, Ilias wasn't there for his baptism
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>>164850070
Kitsune marriage best ending
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So any clue when the anime will came out
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>>164850478
Within the first ten days of January.
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>>164831416
>Fuck me that makes this all a hell of a lot lewder now.
reminder that luka's mother and aunt are in paradox nearly naked and sporting insane looks on their faces.Then there's of course IIias herself being Luka's grandmother.
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>>164721076
>That temperature
I feel like this image could also work for this
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>>164851160
His aunt isn't sporting a insane look still very hot
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How the hell do you get "luka raped by companion"? Do you have to get teamkilled?
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>>164855495
You have to have Sonya or Sara in your party and get them charmed by something, they'll start forcing themselves on Luka that is unless there are some other human females you can get.
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>>164855708
This would be hot in a proper h scene or the anime
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>>164855495
>total battles : 1231

Is the game as grindy as it sounds?
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So I know Sonya is shit but what about Sara
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>>164856340
Kinda. I haven't even touched the labyrinth yet.
>>164856707
Sara is miles better than Sonya
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>>164542005
>Random new character at the end, or some character who's so obscure that I've never seen or heard of her
>No mention of the bandits or imps, but random OCs donut steel are made just for this shit instead of including characters we know and love
>Crab girl in a preview picture
>Generic succubi instead of named ones with their own characteristics that we're already fans of
>Fucking crab girl
>Two heavenly knights POSSIBLY excluded, though this is just speculation and could easily be wrong
>One is understandable because lolscales, but the other one may not be included because 2smol
>F u c k i n g c r a b g i r l is all but confirmed to be in this, but infinitely more popular, well-known characters aren't
>【発売日から3日間、300円割引にて販売!】
>So it's confirmed that they're charging money for it

I'm not even going to feel bad about pirating this, IF I even choose to view it at all
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>>164845625
I think its really attractive
based xelvy pandering to all my godawful fetishes
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>>164827045
Am I correct in assuming this also gives order of locations Part 2 will go through?
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So is the brown cow he teased last supposed to be huge, or she shrinks Luka?
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>>164859079
Oi you gotta problem with crabe girl there, m8?
talk shit 'bout my waifu to my face I'll fuggin' shiv ya
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>>164855708
>unless there are some other human females you can get.
The battlefuckers join you after you beat them.

>>164860621
Definitely looks like it, backtacking aside. Still, thinking about it further I might've stopped too soon. Part 1 of Paradox ends just slightly beyond where the original part 1 ended. A Tartarus after Gnome. I decided to look a little further down the list and it's only after the fight with Alice the 15th and a bunch of stuff involving the Drain Lab and Bio Labs that you finally go to the Hellgondo Tartarus. The Giganto Weapon is there and the very last fight before the heaven variant of the world map comes into play is against Alice the 16th. Presumably the real one.

Oh, and those two angels beyond the first Tartarus? They're among the first encounters in the heaven world map, right after the Replicant. Guessing you'll have to wait that long until they're recruitable.

Chances are I'll make one more list.
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>>164864418
I want not-Hassan to force herself on Luka
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>>164864663
The battlefuckers have no request scenes. Cross your fingers for part 2.
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>>164860621
>>164864418

iirc, the way the encounter sections on the world map are layed out in rpg maker also mirror this (That is, around the monster lord's castle has the highest number, the ice continent has the second highest, etc.)

also iirc, going by the world map encounter numbers seems to imply we'll get free use of a ship just before the ice continent.
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>>164845625
Sometimes it is.
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>>164864969
many of them already have the extra-juicy cg, so I think they should have scenes
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>>164865037
nah she just looks like an anteater desu

unless anteaters are your thing, then great
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>>164865410
I don't know what they were thinking either. Felt like a last minute addition. Are they even viable in battle?

By the way, working on the part 3 list right now. Next Dolls confirmed.
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>>164864969
If I could request vaginal from Jessica I'd use her 100% of the time
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>>164866121
>If I could request vaginal from Jessica I'd use her 100% of the time
If you're referring to the Justice Kaizer, she gets targeted about twice as much as the others. Sure about that?
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>>164865580
I like the ones by Sahara Wataru.
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>>164865802
>Are they even viable in battle?
I used Mary to steal pantsu and milk girls, also pesticide/insecticide and incontinence massages from the maid job, not sure if she had it or I leveled it on purpose
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>>164866589
How did you recruit her?
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>>164866589
when can we expect a pv?
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>>164866836
She joins after you've defeated 15 battle fuckers and got the BF license from her.
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>>164866403
Yes. cuteness is better than gameplay.
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>>164764657
here's how you tell.

are they an insect? pope.
are they not an insect? fuck off to the castle.
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post cute
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>>164870075
They can't be that OP. I'm making do in the LoC just fine. Then again, I just made it to the 20th floor. Nothing aggravating yet.
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>>164841615
This is actually a bad idea. You actually get automatically boosted to warrior lvl 10 and apprentice hero lvl 10 due to the plot reason. So if you want maximum efficiency, you should choose something besides these 2 positions.

Then again, it's just more work grinding so it doesn't matter that much.

>>164841623
Not really unless you're near endgame and you specifically specced for it (slime girls w/ self destruct + autorez or machine girls w/ self destruct + autorez).

What you can do is like >>164842243 said and get an AoE skill as well as find some enemies weak to said element. Or you can turn down the difficulty.
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>>164866589
The maid from Midas Village is a much better maid than Marie.
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>>164849661
This may be just pulling stuff out of my ass, but the true hero awakening that happened isn't actually the same as the baptism that Illias does in the original MGQ trilogy. The one in the original made the humans taste like shit while the other one only powered him up.

>>164851160
The LoC versions were taken from a time during the Great War according to the wiki so take that for what you will.
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>>164855708
>You have to have Sonya or Sara in your party and get them charmed by something, they'll start forcing themselves on Luka

Wow, I would have never even though of that. Any good places for getting them charmed?

>>164856340
>Is the game as grindy as it sounds?
Only if you're a completionist. I bet you could probably run through the game in a couple hundred battles at most if you play on the easiest difficulty setting.
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>>164870075
>insects
Slimes are the most OP race currently because of their ability to divide.
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>>164872920
I had Luka, Ilias, Promestein, and Hild vs Saki.
It was not long before Ilias and Promestein were forcing themselves on Luka who was jacking himself off.
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so mgq
so should I start with the VN or can I jump straight into the rpg maker game?
also how how hard is the femdom,
are we talking nanashi level sounding stuff or worse?
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>>164764657
Pretty much >>164766585

However, most OP races:
-Slimes (for double action)
-Chaos creatures (for resistance)
-Seadragons (for time warp dance)

Most OP classes:
-Battlemaster (best physical attacker)
-Pope (good magic attacker+heal)
-Superstar (best support)

I'm probably missing a couple, but that should cover most of the strongest races and classes in the game.
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>>164874009
You definitely want to play the VN first. The RPGmaker game plot is most likely caused by events in the VN and there's a lot of references to the VN.

If you don't like the battlesystem in the VN, I'm pretty sure there are some 1-shot hacks you can download.
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>>164874009
Start with the VN, RPG game is more or less a sequel and expects you to have played it.

Femdom isn't actually that hard as far as dedicated femdom games go. If I remember correctly there's no sounding, no gore, no CBT. Vore and unbirth are about as bad as it gets,
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>>164874009
You have an option to skip vore.
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>>164874372
Also, there's a switch you can toggle to skip the hardcore stuff. And most of the hardcore stuff occurs only if you lose. If you go through the game beating everybody, the most you'll get is a little bit of femdom. Also, you can usually tell if there's going to be a BAD END vs an end depending on who you lose to. Hint: if you're facing off against a monster who specifically claims she eats/enslaves/kills/impregnates men and you don't like that sort of stuff, you probably don't want to lose to her. On the other hand, if the monster is pretty nice and is just looking for a husbando, the end is probably going to be a vanilla one.
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