EVE Online general /eog/

>amarr

>>163955029
>sounds like CCP is fine with the way they are.

got to disagree here bro

first of all, I think based madman directly said they don't like JFs, but can't change them how they'd like because idiots would cry. look at that capital change they made - if you have a jump drive and are not a black ops, if you get hic pointed you cannot jump a gate. why did they do this? it seems to me that they were thinking about the bullshit potential of invulnerable (gate cloaked in this case) caps that just decloak+jump and you can't do anything. they have to think that that is bullshit to have implemented this change

citadels right, you cannot ever dock at a citadel if you are scrammed. what if they changed jumping so it takes say 10s and it's cancelled if you get pointed in that time, and when you come out on the other end, you cannot tether instantly and are not invulnerable? suddenly it's far less cancerous, without affecting "muh jump range"

>>163955281
>lol nobody can catch my uncatchable ship because they wouldn't bother because who cares
>so JFs are balanced

it's your retarded scenario, faggot

>>163955393
>massive rework burden

more like massive improvement opportunity

you're pointing out how huge this all is. I know how huge this all is. it makes things shitty all over eve in a huge way, it can only be made better

>I'm sorry. It's just the way it is.

people said that about links. nothing about jump drives are 'keeping the game from falling apart' m8

>>163956463
Jump reactivation timers should prevent tethering. I get that jump drives are a good thing but citadels make them too safe.

>>163956879
Phoebe damn near killed EVE

nerfing jump drives again will undo what progress has been made by ascension

>Phoebe damn near killed EVE

is PL really this delusional

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>>163957306
>i just like to pretend the stats don't lie

>>163955865
Well of course, yes. That's the thing I'm saying.

I'm asking anti-JF Anon to reconcile his wishes regarding EVE with reality.
Just because it's not gonna happen doesn't mean we can't talk about it though.

What saddens me though is how quickly topics here devolve into shit-flinging/e-peen contests over some minor detail.
Oh well. That discussion was a trainwreck, someone had to step in.

Not sure if I have the patience to last through all of it; at least I did something.

>>163956879
Good. I like your approach.
Now instead of arguing whether "good pilots" are making ships unkillable, use your enthusiasm to influence CSM / post on forums / go somewhere where changes are discussed.

I'm serious.
My major argument against JD changes is that CCP has better things to do with their dev time.
If you can convince them otherwise - that the issue is an important one - then my point is void.

>>163957492
good b8

maybe mark phoebe on it next time and maybe change the numbers so phoebe is at the start of the drop

>>163957606
PCU 14 is phoebe you dumb fuck

>tfw only one single 24" monitor to play Eve

>>163957729
RIP homie

you need to get on that 2 monitor set up at least

>want to get into incursions
>t2 bb guns are minimum requirement, meaning hundreds of millions and more importantly 150 billion sp needed
I just wanted to make isk man, I don't want to spend my next 3 years of eve exploring

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Is this good?
Hookbill solo roam.

>>163957836
>t2 bb guns are minimum requirement
Where? Even tvp doesn't require t2 guns.

>>163957835
My desk (read: table) is not big enough desu

>>163957729
>tfw only one single 22" monitor to play Eve

>>163957561
I'm not sure CSM members want random scrubs to vomit 8000 character balance mails on them. maybe they do, idk. they probably have to deal with a lot of people like dror

>>163957843
>76.8

no. you'll never kill anything solo with dps that bad. not sure if you're using the wrong ammo or something

>>163957942
Warptome fits require everything but the hull to be t2
Guess there are better alternative fleets

>>163958154
They don't make more isk than tvp because tvp prefers to fly with full faction and deadspace fits, but still lets people join with tech 2.

>>163958153
Gotta train them skills, ammo is faction. Oh well more waiting I guess.

>>163958414
I think flying with m8s you're ok having shitty skills - the gap between a shit skills tackler/ewar/logi guy and full skills is nothing compared to a damage guy. but soloing, I think if you've got 1/3 of normal dps, on top of probably not knowing much, you're just going to have a really bad time and get raped over and over

>>163958615
well can't become good in solo if you never roam, and it's sometimes hard to find basic t1 frigates that want to fight you and I indeed have little knowledge of which ships I can take on, so I thought maybe I'll get a hookbill and try figting other navies.
But if it's that bad I'll just stick to tackle for a while and ruin some more kestrels in solos .

Has anyone but me ever realized that the Proteus can look like a sickass motorcycle

>>163959169
Which subsystems?

>>163959291
nanobot
cpu efficiency
dissonic
interdiction
power core

probably useless but dope as fuck

>>163959734
actually make that augmented capacitor instead of power core, even better

>>163958992
just to give you an idea, my hookbill fit is 195 dps. at 77 dps you're doing probably about as much as the guns on a tackle interceptor. there will be very few ships you can engage, probably none

look at the hookbill's bonuses. the damage bonus on it is massive, but it has fewer actual launchers than a kestrel. it works out as more damage with full skills, but I think if you've got caldari frigate level 2 or something, the kestrel is the same or more damage. worse other stats though of course since it's a cheaper ship

I'm trying not to be one of those "don't undock for 6 months" shitters, but you need to get that dps and double it somehow if you want a chance at killing people imo. it looks like you have all skills at level 1-2, or you forgot to put ammo in one of your launchers or something

>want to play eve but everybody and their mothers are downloading games for new year's eve lan party and your ping is somewhere between 1000 and 2000
>can barely mine rocks without socket being closed
Wat to do. I can only shitpost on /eog/

>>163960264
>lan party
what year is it?

>>163960376
You're never too old for a lan party.

>>163955447
>your cuckpacitor is empty

>>163961076
>you're out of ammo just as a gold magnate passes by

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>infinite ammo

http://www.strawpoll.me/11978150

>>163961563
>not Gaylente

I've just read up about Drone Assist, but how does drone control range work with it?

I only know that drone will just do a focus fire with whoever you set to assist but can they also operate beyond your drone control range or do they stop shooting if the assisted ship's target is beyond your drone control range?

>>163961563
Holy fuck, why does everyone like Caldari so much? Is it due to ez mode mission running or Tengus?

>>163962621
some guy samefagged the caldari votes just now

>>163962573
The target still has to be in your control range.

>>163962573
I think the target has to be in your drone control range

they probably do the usual drone bullshit thing though where if the drone is already attacking a target, and then the target gets out of drone control range, they just keep attacking it even if the guy ends up 200km away

>drones
>ccp
>mfw shit's all retarded

if you're doing it in lowsec pvp btw drones will not attack via assist anyone who is not a criminal (or maybe outlaw, I don't know)

>not having safety red

>>163962768
>>163962830
Thank you very much for clarifying.

drone ships are worse off at gates in lowsec because of sentries destroying their drones, no?

>>163963176
fixed like 5 years ago, sentry guns do not shoot drones

>>163962904
makes no difference

>>163963436
Oh, really? That sounds like drone ships are fucking good at it then.

I've never flown a Stratios but want to get into some solo cloaky hunting. I've already gotten pretty okay with the Astero so I guess this is the next step right? How does this fit look?

[Stratios, Stratios]
Damage Control II
Shadow Serpentis Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Federation Navy 1600mm Steel Plates
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

10MN Afterburner I
Warp Scrambler II
Warp Scrambler II
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier
Medium Capacitor Booster II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Sisters Core Probe Launcher
Medium Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer
Medium Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer
Small Gremlin Compact Energy Neutralizer

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II


Hobgoblin II x10
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Federation Navy Hammerhead x5
Federation Navy Ogre x4
Gecko x2

Navy Cap Booster 800 x9

>>163965596
Why two scrams? Are you going after Ventures?

Drone regions are empty as fuck but jesus christ literally nothing but combat sites

>unload cargo
>undock
>get into combat
>realize you left your ammo at station
>tfw

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>>163966025
>tfw always wanted to visit cobalt edge

>>163966530
Does that binary code translate into anything?

>>163966025
>go in drone null via wormhole
>noone in local
>only combat sites
>jump to the next system
>3 bubbles on gate with 2 randoms on local
>NOPENOPENOPENOPENOPE
>burned back all the way to Jita
Never again.

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>havent played in almost a year
>log into indy alt
>"what the fuck is in my hangar thats worth so fucking much jesus?"
>mfw all that worthless drone shit I hoarded is worth billions now

>>163967282
It got me a free PLEX :)

>>163967230
>go in drone null via wormhole
>noone in local
>only combat sites
>jump to the next system

that's me up til here

but follow it with
>next system 5 combat sites, empty local
>go next
>4 combat sites, empty local
>go next
>1 wh, 4 combat sites, empty local
>etc.

fuck off combat sites

>>163966817
It says:
>Iterate iterate iterate iterate iterate iterate iterate

>high sec data site
>mid-grade ascendancy delta bpc
>60 shattered villard wheel
>43 covert research
I'll never find a good site again ;_;

>>163968376
that's a ghost site, the ones that explode

What's the meme corps du jour? Still reddit-out?

Somone in my corp was talking about setting up PI that will make him 2b a month. Is it possible or did he fuck up math?

>>163969228
Anything is possible if you just believe in yourself, anon! Be brave and strong!

>>163969228
sounds like the usual "it's 2b per month if you have 10 accounts poorfag lmao"

>>163969051
Tengoo

First person to send me 10 million ISK (right click my name -> send money) gets a PLEX. Just bought a starter pack but don't like the game.

>>163969709
sent :^)

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>>163969709

>>163969709
sent :^)

>>163969228
I'm making 800m a month from pi and I'm only doing p2 on 2 characters.

making 500m/h from level 5 missions

Alpha making 1m/h from doing distribution missions reporting in.

>>163969228

If I remember correctly, its done in temperate or barren worlds only using an import/export model.

You should never produce everything yourself.

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39 M/h VNIgger reporting

>tfw forgot drones again

>>163970427

Fuck it! Get some exploration frig with salvagers and combat probes and go rob those l4 fuckers in their mission hubs. Steal/salvage everything yellow.

can you get locked inside a WH if all exits collapse? If yes that's fucking terrifying.

I make 1 billion ISK/hour with this one simple trick.

>>163970427
Alpha making 1m/h doing project discovery reporting in.

>>163970948
You will always have at least one connection.

>>163970997
doesn't that shit pay 200k per hit?

>>163971645
There's a weird scaling going on. If you get under ~35% hit rate your payout is halved compared to what you would expect between 35% and X% (some place around 65% probably), and I bet it's doubled after ~65%. At 50% you make 50k a hit, so at ~65% you should be making ~130k a hit. However it appears you need a combination of practice and luck to get good results.

>>163971645
No, 1k per accuracy percentage, so only up to 100k per slide, and getting ~99% accuracy takes a long time.

Hope you got your Khanid apoc and harbinger, sarum coercer, omen and oracle skins for cheap already.

>>163972417
>not purity + yoiul
>not victory apoc

>>163965697
This was a fit I was linked. I guess it was to catch stabbed explorers?

>cap boosters on battleships
No can do ma'am. Take six 3200s. Enjoy your >>roam

>cap boosters on caps
Of course sir, here have fuckhueg cargo and feel free to cap forever.

This is why battleships are dead.

>>163974136
>No can do ma'am. Take six 3200s. Enjoy your >>roam
I preload a 3200 then keep my cargo with 800's which is far more efficient

Battleships seriously need more cargo to carry all these cap boosters

>here have fuck huge cargo
except some of them don't even get over 500 which isn't a lot seeing that battleship ammo is huge

>>163974136
so use 800s

and it's no use convincing cap babbies that caps are retarded, they think its ok because the skillbooks are expensive or something

>>163974579
what

Cap booster 3200's are huge even for capitals

>>163974526
that's why you fill your ship hangar with itty filled with cap boosters m8

>>163974651>>163974136
>Of course sir, here have fuckhueg cargo and feel free to cap forever.
>cap forever
except they can't. Every capital module caps them out, not even a titan can run an afterburner cap stable. They eat SO much cap that there is no "juggling" each module will cap you out.

As an alpha gallente, how would I realistically move about a caracal to convert into a Navy Issue version? Should I use caldari alt to make a contract to send it from one account to another and refund the price after? Or is there a significant tax to that?

>>163974865
https://www.pushx.net/ Use a courier contract if you must, but the navy caracal is shit.

>>163974865
sorry for not answering your question, but caracal navy issue is garbage

>>163974986
>>163974972
Noted, so probably not as good of an idea to sell as, say, a bundle of Navy Wasps? Or would Cap Booster 800s sell best, as it sounds like 3200s don't see much use?

>>163975257
https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/lpstore/ See for yourself. Remember to check trade volume though, margins are irrelevant if your stuff never sells.

>>163975373
I don't understand the 5% volume column, is bigger or smaller numbers good? Also doesn't seem to be showing anything but basic implants, no actual faction stuffs?

where do i sell BPCs? every contract in jita seems to be a scam, so is there some kind of secret channel for selling bps?

>>163971973
>>163972001
I just got my accuracy rate up to 67% and my payouts didn't double. It it does double at some point it's higher than 65%.

>>163976490
5% of volume is 5% of the total volume to move through Jita that week

Big is good

>>163976889
So I guess it might just not double. It definitely halves at 35% though. Gay as shit, cccp.

What are the rewards for L2 distribution missions?

>>163977603
ISK and LP

>>163977851
ebin

>>163977603
>>163978078
No really. Standings, ISK, and loyalty points. There's a reason people hate running missions after a short while.

>>163979448
oops, forgot the :DDDDDD.

New player here, how do I color every human ship blinking red in only my pvp tab? I don't want those blinking colors in my other tabs, but I never notice when I'm getting ganked while doing something else and apparently getting an audio warning for it is too much to ask. So how do I get a visual warning?

>>163979495
If you're looking for numbers, around 100k-ish ISK and about 100-200 LP.

why are L1 missions so shit?
>less than 5k per kill
>waves waves waves literally takes an hour on a bad mission since you get to try to kill shit in waves of 2 for a total of 200 enemies what were they even thinking?
>0.02 extra standing per mission, need 1.0 for L2s
How do I bypass them without getting security connections? I don't have 30m to spare and I'm saving to be able to afford to do fly cruisers more than once.

>>163979803
I just used drones and went afk while the frigates all died

>>163979803
Security Connections doesn't affect corp/fac standing. I think Diplomacy or something does that.

>>163979996
Actually it's just called "connections", security connections is just for the LP and connections is rather cheap. Guess I'll just do that then.

Anything else I can do (hopefully fun) while I train it up beside project discovery?

>>163980121
Exploration, Mining, PvP, Market stuff, join a corp and do shit with them.

>>163980248
I don't have the skills for any of those beside market stuff (well, and I guess mining). No corp even wants me let alone a corp that will let me do something with them except splat in slowmo.

>>163980427
Join a HS corp, they tend not to be too picky.

please respond
>>163979520

>>163980523
>HS corp
jesus christ how horrifying

guys, seriously, please tell me something
>>163980609

also what the fuck happened to my (You), how am I supposed to search for replies now

>>163981640
plebs dont get it anymore

>they use default 4chan

>>163982236
Well it had absolutely everything needed, until now.

>m-muh you pls gib i need the attention becuz im so reddit waah

>>163982627
(You)

>>163982028
It is frustrating

i have a hard time finding posts now

>turns out my real project discovery income is 6m/h
holy fucking shit, that shit's even better than early exploration and doesn't even require any training or risk!

>>163986142
Early exploration is about 30-60m/h though. Also your project discovery has room to grow to about 20m/h once you get better.

>>163986142
Mining plagio on a retriever is 4-6m/h, sad.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/58655168/

https://zkillboard.com/kill/58479849/

Come on, guys. Seriously?

>>163989953
RMT success!

>>163970754
What activity do you do
I'm currently in a vexor but my isk/hr is less than a plagioclase retriever

>>163969709
I saw you in Jita this morning you nigger

>>163992132
its still there

>>163992405
How much have you made? Saw someone make 750m in one day just begging in Jita once.

>>163992483
I tried begging in jita local once
Got 420k bounty

>>163992483
Do you think it's better if you're funny while doing it? What if I pretend to be a nigerian space prince?

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why don't you losers just trade in jita?

>>163992771
I'd rather shoot space rocks for 2m an hour

>>163992771
trading is for nerds lmao

>>163992771
>>163993240
I update my orders while shooting space rocks.

Any rich anons here give me 10 injectors, I want to get into incursions
:^)

>>163993412
buy plex

>>163993464
Plex is worth only 1 and a half injectors, don't have 120 to blow on internet spaceships

>>163993550
i didn't say 1 plex you moron

>>163992771
I don't have the billions needed to start (what's that called again?) and I'm too lazy to 0.01isk everything

>>163993964
starting capital

money makes money

>>163994721
>Omber
People actually buy that shit?

>>163994767
Thanks mate
>>163994721
Aight I'll start jewing once I get back from work

>>163997401
So you have no tank and no MWD to stay out of range.

>>163999294
>medium ancil
>afterburner

>>163999513
Oh shit. Didn't recognize a meme fit. I need to get some sleep

>>163994991
>>163994721
Why were these deleted?

>>164002303
Probably deleted by the poster. I'm wondering what tool he's using.

>>164002598
Tool for what? what was this anon posting about?

>>164003113
memetic algortihm bank

>stuck in lowsec
>decide to do some babby exploring
>buy a 750k shitfit Magnate

>3 mil in the first can

Fuck me, how are you cunts finding this hard?
If you are not braindead explo is cash printing for the required investment.

>>164004691
because you realize it becomes a numbers game at some point

average time it takes to find a site
average time it takes to clear a site
average total value you get from a site
average time it takes to move the valuables back to a market hub

3m in a can is really nothing since i can kill 2 battleship rats in nullsec in less than a minute and make the same amount

>>164004691
It's only hard for someone who started playing today thb

>>164004938
That's not the problem, the thing that really sucks is when you search through five wormhole sets for five hours and find nothing

>>164004938
The point though is that I don't have to spend 100 mil on a ship to do it.

I don't know why all the newfags aren't just in shitfit explo t1s in low/null/wh, like for the input it's a massive amount of profit. Also very low so requirements.

Please don't bitch about the time it takes, there are always waiting periods. At least there is no station buttsex while the whole corp waits for the blop fleet to move on.

>>164005117
That has to be a bug.
Literally found 6 sites in 3 systems today.
With about an hour invested in explo total.

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>>164003113
>>164002598
That was me. It was just screenshots of items I'm selling in jita for the guy that was wondering about trading. Don't want everyone stealing my profits. The tool was NEAT

pwning.de/neat/

>>164005665
It's not a bug, it's just chance

>>164006671
But that chance senpai.
It borders on impossible.

How much for a good confessor fit?

>>164009287
80-100-150

>Get bored running L2 security missions
>run a few L3s
>decide to raise my skills a bit so I can more comfortably tank and deal more DPS
>do market stuff to make isk in the meantime
>look for low sell orders that people have ignored/forgotten about so I can buy and resell it
>make some decent money for pretty much no work
>make a couple hundred mil over a few days
>home system is a fairly secluded corner of the Citadel
>local usually has 10~ people in it and I usually never see anyone
>after a while I noticed someone in an interceptor waiting at my gate
>now hes camping outside my station

Am I being paranoid or is this guy coming after me? Is anyone autistic enough to monitor buy/sell orders and actually track who is selling high volumes of certain items?

>>164010478
:^)

>>164010478
Yes, yes, and yes to all parts of those questions.

For those doing station trading for dank isk, do I do it in Jita, the major trade hubs or somewhere else like the starter systems?

>last week gas huffing
>this week station trading
>next week?

There is no easy way to make isk you degenerates, and most people on here who advise you to do certain activities are passively profiting off your work in one way or another.

Play the game how you enjoy, not for the isk alone.

>>164011043
I could kill myself and jumpclone to another area a decent amount of jumps away so I'm not totally fucked here, but what do I do to stop myself from getting pinned like this again?
All I can think of is joining a corp and asking for some body guards.

Can a vexor with maxed skill in drone, armor, shield along with a 1 month old alt in gnosis be able to clear c2 or c3 site?

>>164011592
I don't know about c2s but you'd eat shit in a c3.

>>164011728
Fair enough, guess I need to train up to T2 ships before thinking about anything past c2.

>>164004938
>>164006671
>>164007867
>fully explored ~15 wh and ~4 null systems yesterday on an exploration trip
>5 hours total
>found 3 sites
First 3 hours I found nothing. Literally nothing, not one single site.
A whole 14 systems without a single unguarded data/relic site, including 2 null.

Final tally was 28m in 3 sites, 3 times being combat probed and 1 time being stratios-dropped.
It got to the point where there's more hunters than sites, for fucks sake.

But hey, as an alpha 5.6m/hr is still satisfactory.
Though I hope for more next time.

>>164012982
My best record was scouring the entire great wildlands for 6 hours and coming across ONE data site which netted me 6mil

>myrmidon model has 6 turret points
>5 high slots
HELP I AM AUTISTIC AND I DO NOT LIKE THIS

Also, why does everyone recommend artillery for the myrm? Is it because projectile guns don't require cap?

>>164015229
do yourself a favor and stay away from drone ships

>>164015229
Drone ships are pretty good.

Low fitting thats why. Can slap 180mms on there and still triple rep

>>164015498
But I just spend the past 4 days training for this
Alright, what would you recommend for someone who's new to this game?

>>164015498
stfu

don't listen to this retard, drone ships are top tier

Are there any corps that live in safe sansha space that need someone who does nothing but run relic sites?

>>164016173
literally no one needs a free loading welfare cuck like yourself

>>164016356
:(

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>Create support ticket
>I was subscribed for a while without knowing, didn't have anything training
>Get a reply to ticket after 12 hours
>Give GM the requested information
>Get second reply after 15 hours
>Get 3.5m SP to reallocate
>Everyone is happy

How did this whole "Support ticket times a super long xD" meme start? They seem to be doing a pretty great job.

how many L4 scorpion mission runners does the world need?

>>164016408
because 95% of the time it's a bunch of niggers demanding GIBSMEDAT

>>164016452
they exist as a quarantine for the retards that are content with their 20m isk/hr

>>164016173
>safe sansha space
literally on the brink of war right now

>>164017021
it's pretty much been declared and reinforcement timers are already going up

>>164016173
>safe sansha space
Lol.

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it's time for war you scrubs

Do people even run incursion sites other than VG and HQ?
What I'm trying to get at is can you run incursions solo?

>>164018813
you can but the payout is dog shit tier

>>164018813
They give reduced payouts if you run with too many or too few people, so no.

>>164018881
If I'm reading this correctly it's still 14m if you the scout one solo with 3 free trial alts that only enter site as pods and afk inside.
Can one person even do them solo without resorting to capital ships? How long do they take?

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>>164018784
>reddit

>>164019270
I've never run scouts, but you don't get a payout if you're in a pod or a rookie ship. You can sit the rest of your characters on the gate and take it right before the site finishes though.

>>164019340
4chan corps can't even funtion as a hi sec missioners. someone has to provide content.

>>164019382
Seems like a good source of money if you can do it solo in 10-15 minutes.
70-105m isk/hr and 8-10k concord lp solo.

Too good to be true tho, probably big ships can't use gates for scout ones or something.

>>164019734
You could just run hqs and make more money for less effort.

>>164019793
But that requires social interaction.
I don't mind other people being there, but comms - especially voice ones - kill it for me.

Unless you know a group that does it with only the in-game chat.

>>164020156
If it's interacting with other people that is the dealbreaker you should just learn how to blitz l4s instead.

>>164020156
>hurr but i'm an autist that doesn't like the social aspects of a game that is inherently social

gb2wow

>inherently social

>>164020156
Maybe this isn't the game for you, this game revolves around teamwork and other social interaction. This isn't some game like the old Republic where you can just turn off everything and go single player through an entire mmo

>remotely good looking gallente skins never
I sure hope you like
>puke yellow
>puke orange
>slight blue tint no one will ever notice
>slight green tint no one will ever notice
>literally quafe

Just kill me desu

>this game revolves around teamwork and other social interaction

>>164020597
shit looking ships will always look like shit no matter what color they are

>>164020597
>>164020745
it's the penalty for gallente ships being good for as long as I can remember

>gallente
>good
>>gallente

>>164020264
I know how to blitz l4s.
It sucks unless you whore yourself out to some good lp corp.
And then it still sucks, just a lot less.

Having to do excruciatingly boring chores for 100+ hours a month on repeat just to PLEX is also a dealbreaker.

>>164020581
I can deal with limited social interaction.
Being showed into 50 mans mass scale mission with voice comms is as extreme as social interaction gets.

>>164021085
do some hours of less boring chores irl to PLEX then

>>164020890
>memes
>memes
>memes

>>164021085
if you cant make enough to plex in a day then you dont know how to blitz l4s

>>164021219
Everybody hates me irl and comes to me only as their last resort.
My financial situation there is even worse than in game.

>>164021253
Or just suck at it.

>>164021253
You mean the other way around? Making a billion in a day is tough if you don't have the resources for say level 5 missions or some shit

>>164022084
You can make a billion from a few hours of l4s.

How much of the money from wormholes comes from salvage? Say I'm only running combat sites in like a c4. I don't have space for salvagers on any of my combat ships and I'm not sure if it's worth it.

>>164022294
15m average per site from salvages usually

>>164022294
make a salvage alt or refit after you kill everything

>>164022294
Salvaging wrecks if you get good spawns on gas sites can be as good as hacking data sites.

>>164022462
>>164022478

Since the c4 sites give around 90m in blue loot and take like 15 minutes to run it hardly seems worth spending 5-10 minutes getting a salvager if it's only 15m

I tried salvager drones but they can't even attempt the battleship wrecks

Thanks for the help though

>PvE

id rather fuck myself with a rusty fork before i do Pve

>Be in PH corp newbie chat
>WHAT IS A WORM HOLE
>I FOUND COMBAT SITE WHAT DO I DO
>I SCAN IT

Jesus fucking Christ.

>>164023012
He just said 'DID I GET CASH FOR THAT?'

For scanning down a combat site.

Please god just end me.

>>164023012
>Joining PH
I don't know what you were expecting.

>>164023229
Well, they have been helpful and nice, but holy shit people just join without even asking rookie chat stuff, like how fucking embarrassing. This guy went through the trouble of setting up all the services but couldn't be fucked to google 'EVE online wormhole'?

How do you fix the courier contract system?

Because from what I can tell, half are scams and the other half ask for a absurd amount of collateral for shit cargo.

>>164024161
remove jump freighters

>>164020597
Amarr have by far the best skins
Caldari too thanks to the red ones.

Gallente is bad and Minmatar is ultra bad
>here's random bits of bright yellow and the rest is just whatever random shit

>>164020597
>check out this gallente skin, we left the ship 90% grey, but recoloured the other 10%

>>164023012
PH is literally "we take anyone, even 3 hour old retards who don't know what a stargate is"

Why expect anything?

Upgrade to Sniggwaffe, those are better. At least they were back then, don't know about now.

>tfw 5M SP on new char
>wish I had the money to inject myself to 50m

Post the best skin lines for each race

>Caldari
Raata Sunset
>Amarr
Purity of the Throne
>Gallente
Serpentis (all pretty weak desu)
>Minmatar
Nefantar, but it's not on too many ships so other than that Tronhadar Ink

>>164025497
>not superior Bolis skin
>not superior quafe
>implying Nyx Interbus isn't GOAT

>tfw exploring with 180m loot in cargo and accidently die to rats in a site i didn't mean to warp to
I blame the mind numbing boredom

>>164025497
>caldari
Valkyrie
>Amarr
Cold iron
>gallente
>
>minmatar
Thukker

>>164025737
interbus is a nice skin, but on the nyx it's shit, you just get some little yellow squares on a big ugly grey ship

on something like an atron it's nice

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Why do the Chinese get skins we don't?

Is there any way to set a route through an entire region for exploration?

>>164026232
>actually good looking gallente skin
Fuck you ccp

>>164026232
shit taste pleb shit

>muh gold
>muh silver
>muh black

>>164026232
Chinese are superior in every way except for dick size to any western nation. Stay inferior senpai.

>>164024708
>3 hour old retards who don't know what a stargate is
If you want to avoid them, join fleets. These players rarely join fleets. There might be someone who is new to PvP in a fleet, but they'll have at least basic idea about the game. And the rest sit in these new players channels and do mining/ratting/salvaging. But who cares about these channels? Don't go there unless you want to ask a question or answer someone else's question. Yeah, it would be better if they googled first, but it's just how the life is. If you join an alliance that accepts new players, some of them will ask stupid questions.

>>164026232
i need that mach skin

>>164026495
>muh slightly darker green instead of green
>muh tiny patch of grey as the rest remains unchanged

>test not invading omist

hooray!

Will anyone ever attack those xxdeath russians in the east?

I wish there were less of those huge coalitions i null so people would fight more on smaller scale.

>>164027108
yeah, way too many blue standings in null

>>164027026
I am attacking them right now in my Ibis, anon.

>>164027026
They get used for content occasionally, but no one wants to stage a serious offensive against them because dronelands is so far away for so many people.

>>164026959
that's because KWG pays everyone to leave them alone

>>164025497
>Caldari
Ishukone
>Amarr
Tash-Murkon
>Gallente
Roden
>Minmatar
Thukker

>>164027108
when ccp buffs jump ranges and shit it's causing more of this to happen

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Will this work?

How quickly do sleeper arrive to protect their precious clouds?

Do I have to pre-emptively warp out or is there enough time to align?

How quickly will I die?

Are the rangefinders worth ~200k? (first gives 2 probe strength points, second gives just 1)?

>>164028862
>scanning in a venture

just buy a scanning ship and come back in the venture after

>>164028862
>How quickly do sleeper arrive to protect their precious clouds?

no sooner than 15 minutes after the first person initiates warp

>Do I have to pre-emptively warp out or is there enough time to align?

there's enough time to align, not sure if they tackle or what but I've never been caught

it's going to take you a long time to find a core gas site in a venture, they're only in C5s and C6s, and there's usually only 1 good site per system

>you can make more money on a character than it takes to keep it plexed and make a profit on top too by selling skills

So.. what's stopping people from having one character do nothing but farm SP to extract and sell them every month, making them more than what it costs to keep them running?

What's stopping people from doing the multi-train thing and doing it on 3 characters per account?

What's stopping people from doing this on 5, 10 or 50 alt accounts at once?

>>164029153
Nothing other than startup costs.

>>164029153
People do it. The autistic time and effort input required is enough of a barrier that the majority of people with the ability to do so refrain from doing it. Market forces at work.

>>164029153
Nothing. That is exactly what people do. They still need to plex the accounts so it'S ok for ccp.

>>164029015
>only in C5s and C6s
What about all the other gas sites in C1s - C3s?
Not edible?

>>164012982
It happens to me too. It pisses me off to not get a single thing when sometimes I go into a random WH and the very first area has 3 unguarded relic sites and I just go back after 45 minutes with 100m of loot.

>>164029324
up to you

https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ore/gas.html

the 320 and 540 are from core gas sites. there's one common site in C3s called 'ordinary perimeter' or something that has sentry guns in it which will instantly kill your venture btw, don't go to it

Eve is just a bunch of minigames glued together.

>>164029807
Thanks.

>>164030163
But the glue used (market) is amazing.

>>164029291
>>164029259
Does it even take that much effort?

I assume it would go like this:
>get cybernetics V
>get two +5 implants, remap to those attributes
>train skills that take those attributes, should make 2700 sp/hour

Say a month has 30 days on average. That's 720 * 2700 = 1.944m SP per month.

So you make 3.88 injectors a month.

Now for what you have to spend:
3.88 extractors cost 243m * 3.88 = 942.8m

The PLEX costs 1.02b, so combined it runs you ~1.96b a month

But 3.88 injectors sell for ~636m a pop, so ~2.47b total.

Profit of 510m, let's just say half a billion profit per month. Do it on four alt accounts and you already passively make 2 billion each month for what is like what a few minutes of effort each month?

Did I mess up anywhere? Man. I should save up for the start up costs and get into this.

>>164030408
It's not an issue of effort, you need to buy +5s and plex a character that isn't doing anything else three times before you can start making money and that's too much for most people.

>>164030806
Although I think the current prices are a bit out of order. Plex dropped 200 mil in price within a week for some reason while injectors didn't drop, if anything they went up a little bit.
So current theoretical profit might be skewed and higher than they'll be down the line when things normalize.

>>164030915
Give it another six months and skill farming the regular way will not be nearly as profitable. Alphas will change the way people set up skill farms.

The drop in plex price was expected, there are more people mining and fewer ratting since ascension so the value of isk is increasing. I guess the injector price is up because people are injecting into rorquals.

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is this a proper PI setup? Or can I lose some extractors for another basic/basic/advanced factory cluster?

>>164032626
>all those wasted connections

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZsjcpU11e8

you know it's ded when you hit page 10 and are 1 min from 404

>>164036183
ded gaem
ded thread

A group of Autothysian Lancers are outside of my station. What gives?

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>>164036183

>>164036427
they're cucks that only like watching

>>164036427
Blow them up, they drop PLEXes sometimes.

>doing a level 3
>8 enemy ships remaining
>140k to 250k bounty on each
>they're all grouped together
>shields are totally gone within a minute or two
>have to warp out and dock constantly
>don't have enough firepower to pick them off quick enough
>poor little Caracal can't handle it

I'm not sure how to approach this one. They're targeting me and landing shots at 100k, beyond my targeting range which is 62k~

>>164037293
>caracal
>not sure how to approach this one
in a good ship

>>164037293
Buy a drake, or fit your caracal better. Bet you have MWD and not AB.

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>>164037727
Haven't plexed yet so no Drake for me.
This is my cobbled together build.

Ded

>>164038408
that's really shit dps

>>164038408
You're doing it wrong by going passive tank. Fit active shield hardeners for the damage type that's found in that mission, and a shield booster (Large, might have problem fitting it).

>>163967230
Droneland insider here

The bubbles are just to slow down targets so they can be called on intel and carriers safed up. We've told those retarded russian renters a million times to take down their bubbles so our support fleets can save them when they get tackled.

But they just like their bubbles. They will literally drop rookie ships with supers though for whatever reason.

>>164039053
how 2 exploration money in drone regions
literally nothing but combat sites everywhere

>>164039053
if you're from cobalt edge or intrepid crossing, your guys are all gay fyi

>>164038856
If I go full active tank my cap is done in a under 2 minutes, and I only gain 5k~ effective health.

>>164039987
You don't need to pulse tank for 2 minutes constantly.

Effective health is irrelevant, you just need to sustain yourself.

Either way, your problem is in low relevant resists too. I bet you're doing a sansha/blood raider/drone mission

>>164040384
Its Guristas actually.

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>>164039439
Explo is absolute shit in drone lands don't even bother, scan the pipe systems for wormholes and fly the fuck outta there. Very rarely there can be a data site spawn, but you'll only get like one or two useless blueprints.

The real money makers here are either mass rorq mining or rogue drone 1010's for 500m/hour.

>>164039469
Cobalt Edge, and why? The Germans can be cringey sometimes but otherwise it's alright.

It's a nice quiet region to get a kickstart in the game.

>>164040481
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=Blockade3gu

Thats the mission. Think I'll just need to ask around for some help quick.

Is a Capital Ancillary Armor Repairer Blueprint worth anything? Doesn't show on eve-central

>>164040938
make it and sell it for profit

>>164027108
I don't. In every game with massive scale combat there is always some fucking complainer that there needs to be small combat. And its always for some retarded reason like their potato computer can't handle it or they have a fucking retarded build that only works in the gayest of specific situations or they are just fucking terrible at the game.

>>164041260
you're fucking terrible and also really stupid

>>164041260
I prefer smaller scale combat because my decisions matter more when the numbers are smaller, but I'm happy for those who like them to have their big fights as well.

>>164040938
Have you tried searching the item itself? I think Moros pilots need those a lot.

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I wonder what awaits me in this wormhole.

>>164041260
retard

>>164041495
oruze cruise

>>164041260
>actually enjoying huge fleet combat in Eve

You are the absolute cancer and I hope you die to it soon

>>164041495
only disappointment

>>164042192
>>164042048
t. madder shitters with no friendos

>>164042275
Only absolute retards would enjoy tidi

>>164041409
>>164042048

Retard faggots detected who drove games like Planetside 2, Red Orchestra, and Day of Defeat into the ground because every multiplayer game has to play like Halo deathmatch. Go play Overwatch you fucking casuals.

>people keep fucking probing down my mission area and try to bait a response
>check zkillboard
>they have a buddy in a battleship waiting
maybe I should just join a nullsec blob or a wormhole so I can be at peace

>>164040678
hope those battleships were alligned

>>164042275
>>164042397
sheep with no reading comprehension, kys

>>164040938
In case anyone wants it it's on auction for 25m right now, should be decent profit if you get it at that price, 24 hours to sell

>>164042397
>RO
>PS2 and not PS1
>DoD
I know idiots like you irl and you are truly the worst shitters I ever known. Good game taste but completely retarded. Never'll understand that they are retarded too. Fuckers.

>>164041495
suddenly "ha ha! it is me, stratios!"

>>164042397
but I've never played any of those games. they also have nothing to do with eve, maybe you should kill yourself

The most fun group size in Eve is anywhere from solo to ~10 ships

>>164043236
maybe you should realize if you want to play small scale shit you can go play a million other fucking games that are small scale and also suck dick. Eve is a good game because they ignore the opinions of gaylords.

>>164044629
you're dumb as shit

>>164044629
kill yourself already you worthless nulldrone

>>164044734
oh little baby boy is triggered.

muh market economies.
muh fleet combat.

do yourself a favor and go play star citizen so you can play pretend that you are in large universe while enjoy the play pen safety with a few people.

>>164044921
for real though what are you actually mad about, I don't get it

Wow, the thread community here is dumb as fuck.

>>164044734
>>164044790
lmao

t. mad shitters with no social skills

>>164044983
He is mad that not everyone gets off to playing in 500v500 battles like him

>>164045131
>"playing"

>>164044983
EVE is a great game because its a lot like real life. Maybe its just a single white methhead that tries to mug you or maybe it is a 3 thousand blm *peaceful protest* that rips you from limb to limb. It scales for an arbitrary amount of people. People will always complain, its need be regulated so i can get my *fair* shake despite the fact that decades of gaming history shows following that route brings you nothing but crappy games that die off for good reason.

>>164045447
so when a ship is obviously too good or not good enough, and people want it to be fixed, that makes the game worse

>>164045447
>its need be regulated so i can get my *fair* shake

There are no fair fights in eve, there will never be fair fights in eve. Instead they should focus on making fights unfair to their advantage.

>>164045580
Not really. Having ships that are strong and weak in different situations keeps things interesting because it promotes diversity, having a single ship or a small number of ships that are strong in many situations with relatively few weaknesses just creates a situation where everyone uses that.

>>164045580
what ship is too good?

>>164045108
>giving api keys to a huge corp and sitting in coms while anchored is "social skills" :^)
You need more social skills to fly in small gangs kiddo.

>>164045790
so you think that because there's a good varieties of counters and situational stuff, nothing can ever be too good or too bad

>>164045942
see >>164045802

>>164045802
condor

>>164045965
are you asking because you're new and really have no idea, or are you going to tell me nothing is too good or too bad

>>164045942
My point is that when something gets used all the time, and things that are supposed to be similar to it get used much less, it might make the game more interesting for the players if the first thing was toned down a bit or the second thing was buffed.

>>164046092
what ship is too good? Why can't you answer the question?

>>164046092
He's asking because you sound like you're full of shit, I imagine.

>>164046225
>>164046240

you're doing it aren't you, you're really going to try and tell me nothing is op or up. you're fucking retarded

ok we'll play your dumb game. tell me how a cheetah is as good as a helios

>>164046415
as good as a helios for what?

>>164045861
There is no reason a small gang can't take part in a large battle while still being highly effective.

>>164041495
>YFF
Furries

>>164046549
it's becoming harder as tackle and weapon ranges increase over time

>>164045802
worm and gila

>>164046690
worm and gila are on equal footing with their pirate faction counter parts.

>>164047956
>

>>164047956
Are you saying ships like the succubus, dramiel and cruor are as good as the worm?

>>164048028
are you saying they should play the exact same roles as each other in order to be considered good?

W O R M
O
R
M

>>164048368
So you agree that the worm and gila are all around better

>>164048368
are you so retarded that you think having slightly different roles means nothing can ever be too good or too bad?

>w-well it has more locked targets and 5% higher scan res, just play to its strengths!

>>164048436
>>164048490
>things are only good if they can do the same things

wow it's like you guys don't understand varied gameplay styles at all. gg

>>164048589
it's like you didn't read my post and just wrote some retarded shit

>>164048658
it's like you're moving the goalposts and just defining things OP the same as things you don't like.